December 30, 2025 • 44 mins
SEGMENT 1: WHAT WILL REGIME CHANGE LOOK LIKE IN VENEZUELA?
SEGMENT 2: WILL THE RUSSIA AND UKRAINE CONFLICT CEASE?
SEGMENT 3: TRUMP ENDS THE YEAR WITH PEACE NEGOTIATIONS
SEGMENT 4: WILL MORE INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS COME FORWARD?
SEGMENT 5: WHAT REDISTRICTING WILL BRING FOR THE MIDTERMS
SEGMENT 6: YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION OF THE DAY
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Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo Davidson filling in
for Steve Gruber today. Today is Tuesday, the thirtieth of December,
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Let's
get into today's top stories and as always, thank you
for joining me here on Real America's Voice. We truly
appreciate it and our grateful for you, our audience. First,
we'll discuss the Russia and Ukraine conflict. President Trump has
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signaled that his meeting with Vladimir Zelensky went well, which
hopefully means an end to the conflict as a whole,
and also independent journalist Nick Shirley released a tantalizing piece
of investigative journalism which centralizes on fraud in Minnesota, specifically
tied to daycare and learning centers stationed across various Somali
communities within the state and then later. Texas's redistricting efforts
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have seen some success, especially with the Supreme Court's ruling
earlier this month.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But what will these efforts bring into the midterms.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
We'll find out all that on the docket for today,
but as always, we start here. President Trump is ratcheting
up his pressure campaign against Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro, making
clear that the US does not recognize the legitimacy of
his rule, even as China and Russia step in to
defend one of their closest allies in the Hemisphere. The
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Trump administration has dramatically expanded its military presence in the region,
launching strikes in recent months against suspected drug smuggling boats
off Latin America's coast. Earlier this month, Trump went even further,
announcing a complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering
or leaving Venezuela. While the White House says the operations
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are part of a broader effort to choke off the
flow of illegal drugs into the United States, the strategy
also appears designed to cut off Maduro's financial lifelines and
force him from power. This marks a renewed push by Trump,
who sanctioned Venezuela heavily during his first term and recognized
opposition leader Juan Guido as the country's legitimate president. Trump
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said Monday the pressure campaign would likely be enough to
compel Maduro to step aside now. Meanwhile, China and Russia
are accusing the US of violating international law after multiple
Venezuelan oil tankers were seized, with another reportedly linked to
a shadow fleet still being pursued. Joining me to discuss
this is former Navy seal and chief talent officer at
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Overwatch Mission Critical, Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Mike, thank you so much for being with me today.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Just before the new year, President Trump recently announced the
first land strike in Venezuela on a port facility that
reportedly traffics drugs and contraband. What do you make of
this decisive land strike?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think it was the next logical step one. You know,
both think a bit of it. This way to maintain
surveillance over a very large ocean, trying to interdict small boats,
some are naturally and going to get past your reconnaissance.
So if you take the next logical step, go to
where they maintain the boats, where they load the boats,
and the boats ultimately depart, depart en route to the
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United States or other regions to resupply or to refuel.
So it was the next logical step. And now what
I foresee now is that they will continue to hit
what we call these notes, these docks and rob them
of as many docks or nodes as possible from which
they launched these boats. So a next logical step or
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progression in this campaign against Maduro.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Mike, how do they find out these locales? Is this
coming from on the ground intelligence, Is it from surveillance
from the air? How do they know exactly where these
ports are?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, Usually it's a multi layer of intelligence that overlaps
one another to confirm not only locations, but the use
of the locations, the illicit activity that's happening at the locations.
And once they have multiple layers of intelligence, you basically
have a package or proof strong enough to conduct those
strikes against those locations.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Mike, you mentioned sort of this being a next logical step.
So if we take this a step further, do you
think that more land strikes may follow if Maduro continues
to refuse to step down from power, And essentially how
far is President Trump willing to go on this do
you believe?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think the question is does this mean the next
logical step is what you just said addition land strikes
or is it a potential land war in an invasion?
And I don't think we're at that point. What President
Trump is doing is he's applying pressure, not only militarily
but economically, taking out these oil takers as well as
the illicit drugs, which is you mentioned a lifeline economically
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for Maduro. So diplomatically with the sanctions, they're putting as
much pressure on Maduro as possible. And when I think
we hear President Trump say Maduro step down, he's given
them the option to step down. I think that's also
code for the people of Venezuela to rise up and
affect regime change. But everything that Trump and this administration
in the Department of War alongside the Justice Department, are
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doing is basically regime destabilization, and what we hope to
do is to get it to a point where the
people from Venezuela rise up and conduct a regime change
on their own without a shot perverbally being fired on land.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Well aside from these land strikes that you've been mentioning,
and strikes in the ocean of course, which we know about.
Also ordered a blockade of ships entering and leaving Venezuela,
which has led to the seizure of multiple oil tankers
working as ghost ships while carrying sanctioned oil. Mike, how
effective are these tactics towards pressuring Maduro out of power?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Because it seems like it's a.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Multifaceted, deliberate, step by step plan.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And do you think it's working.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, it's a masterclass. That's what we're watching, you know,
happening in your real time. You know, with these tankers.
If you want to impact anyone, if you want to
make them, if you interrupt their thought or decision making process,
if you want to put pressure on them, hit him
where their wallet is, hit them in their bank account.
And that's what we're doing. We're hitting Maduro's bottom line.
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The actual physical conduct of taking down these tankers from
the military point of view in my past, is not difficult,
but it is a thing of beauty because we're hitting
one of his primary economic sources, which is the oil,
either exports or imports. I do foresee again, much like
additional lands strikes, these nodes, these docks, that we will
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see further take takers taken down through the Justice Department
and the sanctions, which again will put more economic pressure
on ma Dua.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I remember, I believe that the conditions that President Trump
laid out for Maduro to step down he did not accept.
And whatever plan Maduro presented to President Trump, he did
not accept. So I guess my next question is, in
your professional opinion, based on what you know about this,
do you think eventually that Maduro will step down or
do you believe this situation has to necessarily escalate further.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, I think the best thing we could do is
go back to sort of history examples, especially in this region.
It's Noriega. You know, they were putting the pressure on
Noriega and Panama in the eighties, and ultimately you know
he wouldn't step down until we conducted a full scale invasion.
I hope it does not come to that point, especially
for our troops in their safety, but that option is
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always on the table. I would consider that in this instance,
what we called the nuclear option, that if Madua, let's say,
after four months of continued pressure, won't step down, the
people from Venezuela won't rise up, then you could see
the military start to plan and implement, with the approval
of the president, a full scale invasion to remove Maduro
by force.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Okay, so on that note that I'll piggyback off of that. Then, Mike,
if this situation does escalate as I proposed that it
potentially could, then would it be possible or do you
see a situation where US troops could be on the
ground in Venezuela sometime in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, I never say it, ever, could you foresee that, Yes,
if this approach through diplomatic, economic information and military pressure
does not remove Maduro or force him to step down,
then yes we could see that invasion. Now, the Venezuela
military stands no chance against the United States military from
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a national force to a conventional force. But what would
the military do in this is it's very similar to Iraq.
Is they take their uniforms off and it becomes a
guerrilla warfare tactics by the part of the Venezuelans, which
could mean a prolonged engagement, which the Americans, let's just
talk at us citizens don't want another prolonged war. They're
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tired from the Globe War and terror. So Trump has
to be cognizant of that. He's got to take that
into account that he is the president that just ended
several wars or resulted in through his negotiations, peace of courts.
He doesn't want to get marred down by a conflict
that he started.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Well, you're absolutely right, and that's actually a great segue
to my next question, which is one to ask you
is you know, people elected Donald Trump because he was
a peacetime president, and you just mentioned a number of
the wars that he has actually ended. He campaigned on this,
It was a promise made, it was a promise kept.
So how are those supporters of the president going to
look at this? Being people who have no interest in
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getting US involved in foreign wars? I mean, I think
a lot of the base who said, hey, man, America, first,
why are we get involved in Venezuela. What's so critical
about it? I think we all understand we don't want
illegal drugs, illicit drugs.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Pouring into the country. That's obvious. But there's got to
be some other strategic reasons. Maybe oil is one of them.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
But how does this resonate with his supporters that don't
want to be involved in foreign wars.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, let me argue in defense of the president, and
I actually support what he's doing right now. And this
is why. One we spent over two decades involved with
global war and terror, we were very focused on foreign
wars in a different hemisphere. We turned our eye away
from our own backyard, the Western hemisphere. So what President
Trump is doing is he is resetting western US Western doctrine.
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For too long, we've allowed not only the narco terrorisms,
the cartels to just flood our borders with drugs, and
that is long overdue. And he's the first president to
take action, but to allow Venezuela to be a proxy
or ford staging base for foreign adversaries like Russia, Iran,
in China. We've allowed this for way too long. So
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he's resetting Western doctrine or Western hemisphere doctrine, and ultimately
saying that our foreign adversaries are not welcome here. So
this was necessary timing. Yes, he's ill afforded timing based
off of the global war on terror and people's just
tired nature of war. But this was necessary. If not him,
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then who? And if not now, then when is the question?
So ultimately, the President makes made a strong decision to
put these pressure, to put this pressure on Maduro to
cut off illicit trade or illicit drugs as well as
denying our foreign adversaries access to the Western hemisphere. It
was necessary.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And so Mike, let's take on this to the fullest extent,
which let's say Maduro does step down or he's forced
out of power. What happens if there is regime change?
Will we see a new economic pipeline? And I am
using that we're literally and figuratively in Venezuela. Does it
reset the relationship you're talking about? Does the US benefit
now economically? Do we establish a new stable democracy and
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capitalist democracy in the region. What happens in a great
post Maduro Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
In great question? Similar you know, we would want to
see a democratic party step in. We would want to
see democracy in our western hemisphere, in South America prevail. Ultimately,
we would be involved to aid and support with that
transition from a despotic government to a democratic government. And yes,
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we all know that Venezuela is rich in resources, especially oil,
so it does open up economic ties at a greater
rate with Venezuela that not only benefits America but benefits
their people. So the economic development that our allies receive
by being partners with the US speaks volumes it has
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and that's why people want to be friends with the
United States. We have a populist that likes to buy goods.
You know, we are one of the largest importer of
foreign goods in the world, So those benefits come with
being an ally of the United States. And we ultimately
would love to see democracy spread across South America. And
arguably if Venezuela, if the rest of South American America
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can watch Venezuela become a strong democratic government, it does
set the sort of business case example for why other
governments or other nations in South America should follow.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I think you're one hundred percent right, Mike.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
And as someone who has in law family in Paraguay,
where obviously there's capitalism and a democratic government there with
President Panya, I think you're seeing a South America that
could start to tilt back in the direction of being
capitalist democratic, and I think for should Venezuela turn that direction,
I think it would be a signal and a great
thing for South America. So think you're spot on about that.
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My friend beformer Navy Seal Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Thank you so much for joining me, sir, and happy
New Year to you.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Thanks boll Well.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Coming up after the break, I will.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Discuss the Russia and Ukraine conflict and how President Trump's
latest indication of the meeting between him and Vladimir Zelensky
going well could hopefully be conducive towards an end to
that conflict.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
More on that after the break.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Welcome back to America's Voice Live. Thanks for joining us today.
President Donald Trump says peace talks aimed at ending the
war in Ukraine are nearing the finish line after a
high level meeting with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in Florida
at ma A Lago. The two leaders met at mar
A Lago, where they highlighted major progress on a proposed
twenty point piece framework while acknowledging key disputes remain, including territory,
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ceasefire conditions, and final approval from Kiev. President Trump said
negotiations have accelerated in recent weeks and are more advanced
than at any previous stage of the conflict, crediting sustained
US leadership for pushing talks forward. As Lynsky echoed that optimism,
saying negotiators have largely agreed on the structure of a
deal after weeks of diplomacy involving US, European and NATO officials.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Both sides caution though, that a handful.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Of difficult issues still must be resolved before a final
agreement is reached. Joining me to discuss this is former
Ambassador to Denmark, Greenland and the Faroe Islands, Ambassador Carlo
Sans Madam. Ambassador, thank you so much for being with
me today. President Trump stated that his meeting with Zelensky
on Sunday went really, really well.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Do you think that a peace deal.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Could potentially happen within the next few months. Are we
really at that proposed finish line?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Both, certainly, we're closer than we were a year ago. Right,
and thank god, President Trump turned off the faucet of
the hundreds of billions of dollars that the Biden administration
was sending to Ukraine, hurting American taxpayers and just fueling
the flames of that war. So he has Zolensky to
the table, he has Putin to the table, and if
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this war can be resolved, we know the only person
that can do it is President Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
That right, Well, Madam Ambassar, I recall the President saying
that both leaders have to truly desire peace. I remember
him saying that, do you think in your estimation that
both Zelensky and Putin can be trusted when they say
they want to end the war and maintain peace.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, Bo, you know both are from very corrupt countries
and neither one is really democratically elected. So do we
trust them? Well, I think that we will judge them
by their actions, and I think it is in both
men's interests to end this war. President Trump is presenting
an off ramp. I can't believe how fast President Trump
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is moving on this issue. If you think about the TikTok,
this is his Christmas in New Year's vacation, and he's
moving at trump'speed. So it's exciting to see the progress
that's being made. And the fact that we're now down
to more or less details. How does this look to
get to peace?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well, and in the end, it seems that Ukraine is
going to have to see some amount of land.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's what it seems like to me. Maybe don Bass,
but you know, if.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Ukraine agrees to do this, it seems like always every
time they agree to something, Russia then moves the goal
post and then it goes back again. Let's just say
hypothetically Trump and Zelensky have reached some sort of land agreement.
Do you think Putin accepts that or does he punk
the goal post down? Does he punt the ball again
down the field?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I think that right now there are two track dialogues
with both and we have Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff
working with both sides to get this to a good place.
I think that it's now sort of getting down to
and even according to the Russians, down to details.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So that's exciting.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
The fact is that the Ukrainian leader Zolensky was saying
just a month ago or so, we refuse to give
up any territory. He's now living in the real world
and accepting that there's going to have to be some
loss of territory. And let's not forget that. The European
leaders and some democrats. I think in the US we're
pushing Zelensky away from accepting that reality. And I think
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that's one of the realities that will be required by
Russia is to give up some of their territory. I
mean some Russia has controlled and since twenty fourteen, and
their majority Russian speaking people. So it may not feel fair,
but this is a way to end this war by
the you know, resolving the territorial disputes.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Well, and President Trump said it, you know, does Lensky
before at that first meeting you don't have the cards?
And it seems like maybe Zelensky's finally realizing that he
doesn't have the cards, that this money pipeline is going.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
To be cut off. This bigot has to be cut off.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Carly, if President Trump can make this peace deal happen,
and maybe I should say when not? If I know
this has been his toughest deal, he said, it's been
the toughest when he's had then would you consider him
and you think the world should consider him to officially
be the president of peace considering the astounding number of
conflicts that he has resolved around the world just in
what was it just the year of time, not.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Even a year bo He certainly is already the president
of peace, and blessed are the peacemakers, for they will
inherit the world. It's really amazing how President Trump has
ended wars and conflicts, even one that heated up recently,
and they've now gotten it back to a good place.
And these are places that some of them have had
disputes and conflicts for hundreds of years. So he's got
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the world into a much more peaceful place than it
was when he arrived in office. And if you look
at how both Russia, Europe and the US are talking
to Ukraine about rebuilding Ukraine because it's pretty devastated, and
we have the three hundred billion dollars that's Russian funds
that are locked in Europe that Russia is potentially contributing
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to that rebuilding. And then you think about giving a
good life back to the Ukrainians and easing the Russian
economy off of their wartime footing into more trade, more
prosperity for the people, because Russia is in not a
great place economically. I know they're doing okay on this
wartime economy. But maybe we can learn some lessons from
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them too about production speed and things like that, because
we're sort of we produce it feels like at the
nineteen nineties speed, but Russia and Ukraine are certainly operating
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, before I letting you go, I really do want
to get your thoughts on the potential annexation of Greenland
to the US. Is that a reality and is this
something that the people of Greenland would want. It seems
that they've indicated no, but I know that they represent
a strategic military side as well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What are your thoughts on that notion?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Well, I know President Trump says that we need Greenland
for our national security. We haven't even had a first
offer to the people of Greenland. There hasn't even been
one conversation, and so it will be interesting to see
President Trump's new Special envoy, Governor Landry, as he begins
conversations with the Greenlanders. I do believe that the Danes
will try to insert themselves in those conversations because the
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Danes are terrified to lose control of the world's largest island,
although they can't afford to develop it or defend it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's absolutely right. That's some great thoughts right there.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Well, Carlo Sand's, former ambassador to Denmark, Greenland and the
Faroe Islands. Thank you so much for coming on today, madam,
and happy New Year to you.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Happy new Year, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
America's Voice Live will continue with more news of the
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Speaker 1 (21:42):
Welcome back to AVL.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Let's take a moment to catch you up on some
other developments. Last segment, we talked about Russia and Ukraine. Well,
now let's shift to President Trump wrapping up twenty twenty
five by driving peace forward in the Middle East. At
Mar A Lago yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Yahoo called
President Trump the greatest friend Israel has ever had in
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the White House. Here's Prime Minister net and Yahoo.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
We've never had a friend even close a friend as
President Trump in the White House. I think he's been
extraordinary in his friendship and his support for Israel, his
principled positions, his willingness to just cut through, to get
through the essence of things. And I don't say that
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as a compliment. I just mean it. People have heard
me say that behind your back, President many times, but
I want to say something else. I think we have
a partnership, if I can quote you, second to none.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
The two leaders laid out the path ahead for the
Gaza Peace Plan, focusing on Phase two and the full
disarmament of Hamas. President Trump was clear if Hamas does
not disarm as agreed, quote, They'll be held to pay.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
He said, it will be quote.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Horrible for them, really really bad, and then they have
a very short time to comply. Trump's in a strong
message to Iran if they try to rebuild their nuclear
or missile programs, America will quote knock the hell out
of them again.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
When question whether Israel was moving fast enough, Trump backed
them one hundred percent. He said, quote, I'm not concerned
about anything Israel is doing.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
They've lived up to the plan.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Trump teased expanding the Abraham Accords to include Saudi Arabia
and is closing out the year with peace through strength
and standing tough with our allies. President Trump signed several
bills into law yesterday signing HR ten forty three, the
Lapaz County Solar Energy and Job Creation Act, which transfers
thirty four hundred acres of federal land in Arizona to
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the county for solar development and new jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He also signed six.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Other bills into law, extending the Marine Debris Program, reauthorizing
the Congressional Award for Youth, extending Great Lakes Fishery Research,
improving public access to federal waterways and fishing data, extended
land benefits for Alaskan Native Vietnam era veterans, and extended
tax relief for disaster affected areas. And wrapping up the
years Strong with Winds for Energy, the Environment, veterans, and
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disaster recovery. And another news, Hamas confirmed the death of
Senior command Rayed Sayad in an Israeli precision drone strike
on his vehicle in Gaza City on December thirteenth. The
confirmation was part of a December twenty ninth video that
also acknowledged four other senior commanders killed, including the masked
spokesperson Abu Obeda. Sayad was head of weapons production for Hamas,
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a senior Hamas first acknowledged his death on December fourteenth,
calling the strike a cease fire violation. Sad helped mastermind
the October seventh, twenty twenty three massacre that killed more
than twelve hundred people and took two hundred and fifty
one hostages and ignited the Gaza War, leading to over
seventy thousand Palestinian deaths according to the Gaza Health Ministry,
and more than twenty one hundred Israeli deaths. The strike
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killed three other top Hamas leaders, including Sa'ad. The announcement
highlights major losses to Hamas leadership, and a new mass
figure has.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stepped into the Abu Obeda name.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
The targeting of these top officials demonstrates Israel's superior intelligence
and military precision.
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Speaker 1 (26:27):
More on that after the break.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Welcome back to AVL yesterday.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
In the early hours of the day, content creator and
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fraud is coming from various daycare and learning centers stationed
in the heart of Somali communities in Minnesota, and when
he actually went to these facilities, most if not all
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of them were empty and the ones with people present
were not responsive to any questions as it relates to
the allocation of operation cost and the sourcing of said funds.
The most notable instance was when Nick showcased Quality Learning
Center which was misspelled, which had reportedly had ninety five
violations against them, yet received over eight million dollars in funding. Today,
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the owner's son claimed that Nick had visited the location
after hours, but needless to say, the allegations seem stacked
against all facilities alleged to be involved. And finally, the
DHS and DOJ are conducting a massive operation in Minnesota
to get to the bottom of this. Joining me to
discuss all this is constitutional lawyer and former Green berae
Ivan Raklin, Ivan, thank you for being with me today.
(27:42):
Let's start with this video. Soon after this video, was
published by Nick Shirley. The DHS promptly moved and announced
an active probe into this industry. Do you see anyone
being held to account as of yet?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And where is it? Where's this going to go?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
First off, I want to thank Nick for doing the
great work and investigative journalism with the problem is the
last eleven years we've seen escalatory levels of treason that
still has not been addressed. I mean, no one's been
held to account, going back to the Biden criminal Syndicate
reign of terror when they did ten percent of a
big guy in twenty fourteen, and then from there we
just saw the escalation of our destruction of the constituent order.
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I only see that what happened in Minnesota is just
one level of fraud and de seat of the American
taxpayer dollar and going.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Back at a minimum of decades.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
So when you ask me if it is anybody going
to be held to account, this current Department of Justice
is rampant of probably over ninety five percent of this
DOJ is still the corrupt scum that was in place
over the last decade, and they're there to make sure
that the leadership of the DJ and the FBI doesn't
hold anyone to account, and they already got one win
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under their belt because Dan Vongino is quitting after the
year next year.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, that was a bit surprising and certainly I think
a big loss for da. Let's talk about elin Omar,
who has seen a sharp increase in her wealth via
her husband's net worth in recent years.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you see this.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Development all at all being tied with Nick's video or
is that just a mere coincidence.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean it relates to the sense that she is
a Sabali citizen and I don't think she obtained her
US citizenship, and so she is an illegitimate member of
confer right, just like the Biden syndicate legitimate based on
the result of an illegitimate collection. So other than that,
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I mean, I'll see any other relation to it. Continued
fraud and we effectively live in a failed state. Whereas
before it was a illegitimate tyrannic or sheet, now we
have a h An administration that is too cowardly along
with her bulkits of the House senator to hold anybody
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to account.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, I mean it's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
You know, people talk about the deep state, and it's
no longer for conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
It's actually just playing out before.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Our eyes out at Causeum over the years.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But the deep state is by any date place transgression,
gadding free relationships known as the deep State target list.
But we have yet to see one arrest, not not
even we have indictments that have failed. We don't even
have an arrest of John Brennan. We don't even have
an arrest of James of anybody. So, I mean, it's
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going to come a time where the American citizens are
going to have to essentially take charge and essentially dictate
our institutions on what they need.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
To be doing.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, and I think that President Trump promised that to
his base. You know, there's got to be some repercussions
for the actions that we've seen. Whether it's Brennan, call me,
whoever it is, it's got to happen. I mean, I
don't think it's bloodthirst. I think it's just reality. It's
that's what justice is. If there's no justice in the
Justice Department, how are we supposed to get anywhere? So
I completely agree with you there's gotta be consequences. But
I even right now, because of where you are, I
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do to switch gears because I understand that you attended
the federal court hearing on the DC pipe bomb suspect
Brian Cole Junior.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Today. Could you tell us how that went, what went down,
and what stood out to you.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, a couple of things that you're not going to
get the transcript that I want to address, liming the
time we have, is that one of the individuals that
has worked for I think over two decades for his
father who basically said that Brian Pole Jr. Is a
thirty year old kid with a fifteen year old brain autistic.
And so even if he did do it, I mean,
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it's a nice little pansy to be able to place
a pipe bomb that benefits the deep state massively.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And background that's here the.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, even if.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
The pipe bomber is the if Brian Pole is the
pipe bomber, I just don't see a DC jury convicting him.
And what was going on today was a detention hearing.
First off, the is not even sure if he's going
to uh acknowledge the grand jury indictment that was done.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Street the d C Circuit Court.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Stec's a little confusing where you have the US District
Court for the Federal District here right behind me, and
then you have DC District Court, the Circuit Court which
addresses DC crimes, and I guess it's under appeal on
whether or not a federal district court is supposed to
acknowledge a grand jury in the Circuit court. All I
see here is a complete slow role by Joscelyn Valentine,
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which is the lead prosecutor in this case and has
a little bit of history. Joscelyn Valentine the assistant Houst attorney.
She used to be the one that was spearheaded by
the deep state to go after General Flynn during his
trial and against Enrik h trio, the Proud Boys, and
the Nancy Pelosi fed direction pumper up trial against the
Proud Boys. I had an opportunity to confront her, I'm
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opposed to here after her to redo this interview, and
she didn't have much to say other than she knew
it's exactly who I was, and her co counsel kind
of screwed the law.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And I asked her simple questions such as, you.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Know, how do you expect America to believe you when
you were behind the fake weaponization against General Flynn, the
fake weagonization against the Proud Boys, and now all of
a sudden, you got this kid that's autistic, that supposedly
admitted to the crime without counsel. And he's autistic, I
mean seriously, and he acted alone, supposedly.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We're supposed to believe.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I think my gut tells me it's a conspiracy. And
because defense counsel on Newmerous occasion, without prompting, said that
he acted alone, it wasn't a conspiracy to me. It
kind of just my Spidey says to tell me that
there's more to it than meets the eye. And again,
the government's not going to get to the truth because
they're not. They've shown to be completely incompetent at best.
(33:50):
And the defense counsel obviously they're going to defend him
to the end because they have to continue to defend
the Fed direction narrative. It's going to be independent journalists
and independent investigators like us that will end up getting
to the truth of what happened on jan During six.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah, well, Ivan, it's the people like you, as you
just mentioned, Nick Shirley, I think we're seeing people just
go out there and do the work that the mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Will not do so.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Constitucial lawyer and former Green Bray and independent journalist Divan Raklin.
Thank you so much for coming on today, and have
a happy new year.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Sir Eric.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I appreciate you both.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Thank you, Hey, thanks Ivan.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But coming up after the break, I'll discuss what redistricting
efforts specifically in Texas mean for the upcoming midterm elections
next year. More of that coming up, and make sure
to tune in Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS
twenty twenty five Year in review. Back in just a
few minutes. Welcome back to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo
(34:48):
Davidson and for Steve Today. The dialogue around the legitimacy
of redistricting, specifically when it comes to Texas, has been
ongoing ever since July of this year. At its height,
Texas Republicans argue that read districting efforts were a standard affair,
especially mid decade, and even Governor Greg Abbott sided a
Fifth Circuit Court ruling that changed how coalition districts are
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treated under the law. Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled on
these efforts earlier this month and gave Texas the go
ahead to use their new map in twenty twenty six,
a key year for many Americans as November is when
the midterms will be held. Join me to discuss this
is Texas State Representative Steve Toath. Steve, thanks for being
with me today, especially years end. Besides the map giving
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Republicans five more congressional seats, what other impacts will this
new Texas map have?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
These new maps absolutely take the handcuffs off of Republican
states where you know bo Honestly, it's amazing that Republicans
ever had control of Congress given the fact that the
courts of the past has said to the Republicans, you've
got to draw maps based on the color of somebody's skin.
(35:58):
They're not saying that to the Demo. They're sayings the
Democrats you can draw maps however you want in blue
states as long as it gives you a political advantage.
So that's why you've got New England, six states, fifteen
million people, twenty one congressional districts. It's forty three percent Republican,
yet not one, not one congress Republican congressional district. So
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we have been fighting the Democrats at a gross disadvantage.
And there was a case it's called Petaway that basically
said no, you can. You can draw maps color blind.
And that's what we did. That's what we did in Texas.
And so you look at states like Indiana that we
could pick up another seat, which is which is a
two seat swing. Actually, if the Democrats lose one, we
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gain one. It's a two seat swing. And yet the
cowards in Indiana will not do it.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Steve, you know, in its infancy, of course, many Democrats
were quick to call these efforts blatant jerrymandering. What do
you say to those claims? Now, especially after the Supreme
Court ruling, you.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Actually have to jerry mander in these democraty states. You
have to jerrymander in order to come away with with
twenty one congressional districts, and they're all democrat in in
the northeast part of the United States, which is forty
three Republican, that's where the jerrymandering is taking place. It's
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not being it's not being jerrymandered here in Texas at all.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
So that's just pot calling the kettle black sounds like exactly. Well, well,
let's let's let's turn some efforts to California. You know,
Gavin Newsom has mentioned maintained his intention to redistrict California
to balance out representation. Do you think Newsom's push is
it legitimate or is it more of a retaliatory response
since Texas did succeed.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
As you mentioned in the end.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's completely retaliatory and it's stupid on its face. And
I'll tell you why. Is that the Democrats had already
jerrymandered California to the maximum of out. They got the
maximum number of Democrat seats that they could out of that.
And by doing what they're going to do, you're going
to put five or six seats, maybe upwards of seven
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seats in play that Republicans in the past never had
a shot at.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So okay, so Steve won't ask you this.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
So with with California's redistricting move, would that give Democrats
more net seats in terms of to balance out what's
happening in Texas? Would they have a statistical advantage with
that plan?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I don't think they will. I mean, we've got so
the seats that we drew, now those are all safe
Republican seats. Right again, the Democrats. Democrats in California had
drawn all but five seats Democrat. And and yet again
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it's you're still like thirty eight Republican in California. Yet
all but five seats now in California are our Democrats.
And so if they're to draw any more seats, they're
putting actually going to have to put seats in place.
So you're gonna take seats that we're sixty or sixty
two percent Democrat, and those are going to become fifty
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to fifty two seats now Democrat, which gives Republicans an
opportunity here to for that they haven't had in the past,
which would it puts them in play. So no, I
don't think they're going to pick up five seats in California.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
So I got to follow up be then there, does
that mean California is saveable? I mean, is is there
actually an opportunity here for Republicans to make some gains
when so many have left the state.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, we can. We can make some gains in California.
That's what I'm trying to say. I guess it's a
clumsy way for me to say it, but yes, we
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Pick important to we win California.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
No, we're not going to win California I don't think,
you know, I don't think we're gonna win the governor's
race there, although they'd be wonderful we could, But we
are going to I think we could pick up some
congressional seats, all right.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Steve, final question for you, other than California, do you
see any other Democrat states make a play in terms
of drawing and proposing new district maps.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I don't, I really don't. I don't, and I'll tell
you the reason why. Is that, Again, like I've said before,
the Democrats in these blue states have jerrymandered their states
to the maximum number that they possibly can. If they
try and draw additional Democrats seats, it's going to put
other seats in play because you've got to take you've
got to take Blue voters, historically Democrats voters and pull
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them into another seat, which is going to weaken the
other seat that is already a strong Democrat seat. So no,
I just don't think they're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Real quickly, Steve.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Before we let you go, let's I want to find
out about your campaign for Congress in Texas to let
me know how that's going.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
It is going great. So it's crazy, is that I've raised,
you know, just five ten fifteen dollar donations for people
all over that are sending us money. And we've raised
more money basically in a four month period that I
had in six years of running for the Texas House.
People are squarely behind me in my effort to defeat
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Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw has the only the only let's
put it this way, the only the only person that
has higher unfavorables than John Cornyn in the state of
Texas is Dan Crenshaw.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Well, congratulations Steve On on your campaign and best of
luck to you. We thank you so much for coming
on AVL today. Have a great rest of your day,
and of course, sir, Happy New Year, Happy New Year, bo.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Well.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
After the break, we will have a story that reminds
us of how wonderful America truly is. Plus your answers
to our America's Voice question of the day, which is
after President Trump's meeting with Zelensky, do you believe that
the end of the Russia Ukraine War is in sight?
We'll have those answers after the break.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What makes America wonderful?
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Well, we do it every day with the hope of
putting a smile on your face. Today's story comes to
us from Cottonwood, California, where an Amazon delivery driver truly
employed the fact that honesty is the best policy. Amazon
driver Connor Drake, was making a routine delivery when he
noticed something peculiar on a customer's front lawn. When Connor
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went to examine what the object was, he quickly came
to the realization that a twenty dollars bill was just
sitting there now. While most would pocket the note under
the pretense of finders keepers, Connor was honest and forthcoming
by carefully placing the twenty dollar bill under the package
he was delivering, ensuring that the homeowners could take back
the misplaced twenty bucks. Later that day, the homeowners reviewed
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their doorbell camera footage and saw Connor's gesture. Furthermore, Connor
returned to the house to receive a gift under the
homeowner's request, which he has decided to keep private. Honesty
and integrity the key values of a functioning society, and
Connor's actions certainly support that, reminding us of what makes
America truly wonderful. Now reminder, our question of the day
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was after President Trump's meeting with voladimeter. Zelensky, do you
believe that the end of the Russia Ukraine War is
in sight?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well?
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Our first answer comes from Larry Kutrier Junior, who says,
who knows these days? I believe it could be, but
I don't think Zelensky can be trusted. But I also
feel the same way about Putin as well.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I think Larry, that a lot of people agree with you.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Here's another answer from Wayne Brood, who says, I feel
like we are being played by Zelensky. Biden had some
kind of deal worked out with him, and I hope
we find out where all those tax dollars went.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you and me both. I would agree with you
on that.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Another answer here from Marty Klaus, who says Putin doesn't
want peace, he wants Ukraine. Marty, I think a lot
of people probably would agree with you on that. Let's
just hope that Putin comes to his senses and Putin'
Zelensky can agree on something that would be great for us.
Another ants here from Keighley Shively, who says no, because
Zelensky doesn't want it to end. He's making too much
money and if it ended, the elections would resume.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I think that's a fair point that you make.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
He's been getting a lot of money and now that
that money may be coming to a close. Sandy list
Street says, no, Putin won't stop.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
But we hope you're wrong, Sandy, but we'll see.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
David Smith says, as long as Putin stays in power,
the war will not end. It will take an internal
Russian civil war to depose him, and Mark Connor says,
I doubt it. There's no profit to be made for
Zelensky in a piece. Now, make sure to tune into
Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS twenty twenty.
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Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo Davidson filling in
for Steve Gruber today. Today is Tuesday, the thirtieth of December,
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Let's
get into today's top stories and as always, thank you
for joining me here on Real America's Voice. We truly
appreciate it and our grateful for you, our audience. First,
we'll discuss the Russia and Ukraine conflict. President Trump has
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signaled that his meeting with Vladimir Zelensky went well, which
hopefully means an end to the conflict as a whole,
and also independent journalist Nick Shirley released a tantalizing piece
of investigative journalism which centralizes on fraud in Minnesota, specifically
tied to daycare and learning centers stationed across various Somali
communities within the state and then later. Texas's redistricting efforts
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have seen some success, especially with the Supreme Court's ruling
earlier this month.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But what will these efforts bring into the midterms.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
We'll find out all that on the docket for today,
but as always, we start here. President Trump is ratcheting
up his pressure campaign against Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro, making
clear that the US does not recognize the legitimacy of
his rule, even as China and Russia step in to
defend one of their closest allies in the Hemisphere. The
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Trump administration has dramatically expanded its military presence in the region,
launching strikes in recent months against suspected drug smuggling boats
off Latin America's coast. Earlier this month, Trump went even further,
announcing a complete blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering
or leaving Venezuela. While the White House says the operations
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are part of a broader effort to choke off the
flow of illegal drugs into the United States, the strategy
also appears designed to cut off Maduro's financial lifelines and
force him from power. This marks a renewed push by Trump,
who sanctioned Venezuela heavily during his first term and recognized
opposition leader Juan Guido as the country's legitimate president. Trump
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said Monday the pressure campaign would likely be enough to
compel Maduro to step aside now. Meanwhile, China and Russia
are accusing the US of violating international law after multiple
Venezuelan oil tankers were seized, with another reportedly linked to
a shadow fleet still being pursued. Joining me to discuss
this is former Navy seal and chief talent officer at
(03:06):
Overwatch Mission Critical, Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Mike, thank you so much for being with me today.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Just before the new year, President Trump recently announced the
first land strike in Venezuela on a port facility that
reportedly traffics drugs and contraband. What do you make of
this decisive land strike?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think it was the next logical step one. You know,
both think a bit of it. This way to maintain
surveillance over a very large ocean, trying to interdict small boats,
some are naturally and going to get past your reconnaissance.
So if you take the next logical step, go to
where they maintain the boats, where they load the boats,
and the boats ultimately depart, depart en route to the
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United States or other regions to resupply or to refuel.
So it was the next logical step. And now what
I foresee now is that they will continue to hit
what we call these notes, these docks and rob them
of as many docks or nodes as possible from which
they launched these boats. So a next logical step or
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progression in this campaign against Maduro.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Mike, how do they find out these locales? Is this
coming from on the ground intelligence, Is it from surveillance
from the air? How do they know exactly where these
ports are?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, Usually it's a multi layer of intelligence that overlaps
one another to confirm not only locations, but the use
of the locations, the illicit activity that's happening at the locations.
And once they have multiple layers of intelligence, you basically
have a package or proof strong enough to conduct those
strikes against those locations.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Mike, you mentioned sort of this being a next logical step.
So if we take this a step further, do you
think that more land strikes may follow if Maduro continues
to refuse to step down from power, And essentially how
far is President Trump willing to go on this do
you believe?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think the question is does this mean the next
logical step is what you just said addition land strikes
or is it a potential land war in an invasion?
And I don't think we're at that point. What President
Trump is doing is he's applying pressure, not only militarily
but economically, taking out these oil takers as well as
the illicit drugs, which is you mentioned a lifeline economically
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for Maduro. So diplomatically with the sanctions, they're putting as
much pressure on Maduro as possible. And when I think
we hear President Trump say Maduro step down, he's given
them the option to step down. I think that's also
code for the people of Venezuela to rise up and
affect regime change. But everything that Trump and this administration
in the Department of War alongside the Justice Department, are
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doing is basically regime destabilization, and what we hope to
do is to get it to a point where the
people from Venezuela rise up and conduct a regime change
on their own without a shot perverbally being fired on land.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Well aside from these land strikes that you've been mentioning,
and strikes in the ocean of course, which we know about.
Also ordered a blockade of ships entering and leaving Venezuela,
which has led to the seizure of multiple oil tankers
working as ghost ships while carrying sanctioned oil. Mike, how
effective are these tactics towards pressuring Maduro out of power?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Because it seems like it's a.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Multifaceted, deliberate, step by step plan.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And do you think it's working.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, it's a masterclass. That's what we're watching, you know,
happening in your real time. You know, with these tankers.
If you want to impact anyone, if you want to
make them, if you interrupt their thought or decision making process,
if you want to put pressure on them, hit him
where their wallet is, hit them in their bank account.
And that's what we're doing. We're hitting Maduro's bottom line.
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The actual physical conduct of taking down these tankers from
the military point of view in my past, is not difficult,
but it is a thing of beauty because we're hitting
one of his primary economic sources, which is the oil,
either exports or imports. I do foresee again, much like
additional lands strikes, these nodes, these docks, that we will
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see further take takers taken down through the Justice Department
and the sanctions, which again will put more economic pressure
on ma Dua.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I remember, I believe that the conditions that President Trump
laid out for Maduro to step down he did not accept.
And whatever plan Maduro presented to President Trump, he did
not accept. So I guess my next question is, in
your professional opinion, based on what you know about this,
do you think eventually that Maduro will step down or
do you believe this situation has to necessarily escalate further.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, I think the best thing we could do is
go back to sort of history examples, especially in this region.
It's Noriega. You know, they were putting the pressure on
Noriega and Panama in the eighties, and ultimately you know
he wouldn't step down until we conducted a full scale invasion.
I hope it does not come to that point, especially
for our troops in their safety, but that option is
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always on the table. I would consider that in this instance,
what we called the nuclear option, that if Madua, let's say,
after four months of continued pressure, won't step down, the
people from Venezuela won't rise up, then you could see
the military start to plan and implement, with the approval
of the president, a full scale invasion to remove Maduro
by force.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Okay, so on that note that I'll piggyback off of that. Then, Mike,
if this situation does escalate as I proposed that it
potentially could, then would it be possible or do you
see a situation where US troops could be on the
ground in Venezuela sometime in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, I never say it, ever, could you foresee that, Yes,
if this approach through diplomatic, economic information and military pressure
does not remove Maduro or force him to step down,
then yes we could see that invasion. Now, the Venezuela
military stands no chance against the United States military from
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a national force to a conventional force. But what would
the military do in this is it's very similar to Iraq.
Is they take their uniforms off and it becomes a
guerrilla warfare tactics by the part of the Venezuelans, which
could mean a prolonged engagement, which the Americans, let's just
talk at us citizens don't want another prolonged war. They're
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tired from the Globe War and terror. So Trump has
to be cognizant of that. He's got to take that
into account that he is the president that just ended
several wars or resulted in through his negotiations, peace of courts.
He doesn't want to get marred down by a conflict
that he started.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Well, you're absolutely right, and that's actually a great segue
to my next question, which is one to ask you
is you know, people elected Donald Trump because he was
a peacetime president, and you just mentioned a number of
the wars that he has actually ended. He campaigned on this,
It was a promise made, it was a promise kept.
So how are those supporters of the president going to
look at this? Being people who have no interest in
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getting US involved in foreign wars? I mean, I think
a lot of the base who said, hey, man, America, first,
why are we get involved in Venezuela. What's so critical
about it? I think we all understand we don't want
illegal drugs, illicit drugs.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Pouring into the country. That's obvious. But there's got to
be some other strategic reasons. Maybe oil is one of them.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
But how does this resonate with his supporters that don't
want to be involved in foreign wars.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, let me argue in defense of the president, and
I actually support what he's doing right now. And this
is why. One we spent over two decades involved with
global war and terror, we were very focused on foreign
wars in a different hemisphere. We turned our eye away
from our own backyard, the Western hemisphere. So what President
Trump is doing is he is resetting western US Western doctrine.
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For too long, we've allowed not only the narco terrorisms,
the cartels to just flood our borders with drugs, and
that is long overdue. And he's the first president to
take action, but to allow Venezuela to be a proxy
or ford staging base for foreign adversaries like Russia, Iran,
in China. We've allowed this for way too long. So
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he's resetting Western doctrine or Western hemisphere doctrine, and ultimately
saying that our foreign adversaries are not welcome here. So
this was necessary timing. Yes, he's ill afforded timing based
off of the global war on terror and people's just
tired nature of war. But this was necessary. If not him,
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then who? And if not now, then when is the question?
So ultimately, the President makes made a strong decision to
put these pressure, to put this pressure on Maduro to
cut off illicit trade or illicit drugs as well as
denying our foreign adversaries access to the Western hemisphere. It
was necessary.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And so Mike, let's take on this to the fullest extent,
which let's say Maduro does step down or he's forced
out of power. What happens if there is regime change?
Will we see a new economic pipeline? And I am
using that we're literally and figuratively in Venezuela. Does it
reset the relationship you're talking about? Does the US benefit
now economically? Do we establish a new stable democracy and
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capitalist democracy in the region. What happens in a great
post Maduro Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
In great question? Similar you know, we would want to
see a democratic party step in. We would want to
see democracy in our western hemisphere, in South America prevail. Ultimately,
we would be involved to aid and support with that
transition from a despotic government to a democratic government. And yes,
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we all know that Venezuela is rich in resources, especially oil,
so it does open up economic ties at a greater
rate with Venezuela that not only benefits America but benefits
their people. So the economic development that our allies receive
by being partners with the US speaks volumes it has
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and that's why people want to be friends with the
United States. We have a populist that likes to buy goods.
You know, we are one of the largest importer of
foreign goods in the world, So those benefits come with
being an ally of the United States. And we ultimately
would love to see democracy spread across South America. And
arguably if Venezuela, if the rest of South American America
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can watch Venezuela become a strong democratic government, it does
set the sort of business case example for why other
governments or other nations in South America should follow.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I think you're one hundred percent right, Mike.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
And as someone who has in law family in Paraguay,
where obviously there's capitalism and a democratic government there with
President Panya, I think you're seeing a South America that
could start to tilt back in the direction of being
capitalist democratic, and I think for should Venezuela turn that direction,
I think it would be a signal and a great
thing for South America. So think you're spot on about that.
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My friend beformer Navy Seal Mike Sirelli.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Thank you so much for joining me, sir, and happy
New Year to you.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Thanks boll Well.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Coming up after the break, I will.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Discuss the Russia and Ukraine conflict and how President Trump's
latest indication of the meeting between him and Vladimir Zelensky
going well could hopefully be conducive towards an end to
that conflict.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
More on that after the break.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Welcome back to America's Voice Live. Thanks for joining us today.
President Donald Trump says peace talks aimed at ending the
war in Ukraine are nearing the finish line after a
high level meeting with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in Florida
at ma A Lago. The two leaders met at mar
A Lago, where they highlighted major progress on a proposed
twenty point piece framework while acknowledging key disputes remain, including territory,
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ceasefire conditions, and final approval from Kiev. President Trump said
negotiations have accelerated in recent weeks and are more advanced
than at any previous stage of the conflict, crediting sustained
US leadership for pushing talks forward. As Lynsky echoed that optimism,
saying negotiators have largely agreed on the structure of a
deal after weeks of diplomacy involving US, European and NATO officials.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Both sides caution though, that a handful.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Of difficult issues still must be resolved before a final
agreement is reached. Joining me to discuss this is former
Ambassador to Denmark, Greenland and the Faroe Islands, Ambassador Carlo
Sans Madam. Ambassador, thank you so much for being with
me today. President Trump stated that his meeting with Zelensky
on Sunday went really, really well.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Do you think that a peace deal.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Could potentially happen within the next few months. Are we
really at that proposed finish line?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Both, certainly, we're closer than we were a year ago. Right,
and thank god, President Trump turned off the faucet of
the hundreds of billions of dollars that the Biden administration
was sending to Ukraine, hurting American taxpayers and just fueling
the flames of that war. So he has Zolensky to
the table, he has Putin to the table, and if
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this war can be resolved, we know the only person
that can do it is President Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
That right, Well, Madam Ambassar, I recall the President saying
that both leaders have to truly desire peace. I remember
him saying that, do you think in your estimation that
both Zelensky and Putin can be trusted when they say
they want to end the war and maintain peace.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, Bo, you know both are from very corrupt countries
and neither one is really democratically elected. So do we
trust them? Well, I think that we will judge them
by their actions, and I think it is in both
men's interests to end this war. President Trump is presenting
an off ramp. I can't believe how fast President Trump
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is moving on this issue. If you think about the TikTok,
this is his Christmas in New Year's vacation, and he's
moving at trump'speed. So it's exciting to see the progress
that's being made. And the fact that we're now down
to more or less details. How does this look to
get to peace?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well, and in the end, it seems that Ukraine is
going to have to see some amount of land.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's what it seems like to me. Maybe don Bass,
but you know, if.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Ukraine agrees to do this, it seems like always every
time they agree to something, Russia then moves the goal
post and then it goes back again. Let's just say
hypothetically Trump and Zelensky have reached some sort of land agreement.
Do you think Putin accepts that or does he punk
the goal post down? Does he punt the ball again
down the field?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I think that right now there are two track dialogues
with both and we have Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff
working with both sides to get this to a good place.
I think that it's now sort of getting down to
and even according to the Russians, down to details.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So that's exciting.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
The fact is that the Ukrainian leader Zolensky was saying
just a month ago or so, we refuse to give
up any territory. He's now living in the real world
and accepting that there's going to have to be some
loss of territory. And let's not forget that. The European
leaders and some democrats. I think in the US we're
pushing Zelensky away from accepting that reality. And I think
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that's one of the realities that will be required by
Russia is to give up some of their territory. I
mean some Russia has controlled and since twenty fourteen, and
their majority Russian speaking people. So it may not feel fair,
but this is a way to end this war by
the you know, resolving the territorial disputes.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Well, and President Trump said it, you know, does Lensky
before at that first meeting you don't have the cards?
And it seems like maybe Zelensky's finally realizing that he
doesn't have the cards, that this money pipeline is going.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
To be cut off. This bigot has to be cut off.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Carly, if President Trump can make this peace deal happen,
and maybe I should say when not? If I know
this has been his toughest deal, he said, it's been
the toughest when he's had then would you consider him
and you think the world should consider him to officially
be the president of peace considering the astounding number of
conflicts that he has resolved around the world just in
what was it just the year of time, not.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Even a year bo He certainly is already the president
of peace, and blessed are the peacemakers, for they will
inherit the world. It's really amazing how President Trump has
ended wars and conflicts, even one that heated up recently,
and they've now gotten it back to a good place.
And these are places that some of them have had
disputes and conflicts for hundreds of years. So he's got
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the world into a much more peaceful place than it
was when he arrived in office. And if you look
at how both Russia, Europe and the US are talking
to Ukraine about rebuilding Ukraine because it's pretty devastated, and
we have the three hundred billion dollars that's Russian funds
that are locked in Europe that Russia is potentially contributing
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to that rebuilding. And then you think about giving a
good life back to the Ukrainians and easing the Russian
economy off of their wartime footing into more trade, more
prosperity for the people, because Russia is in not a
great place economically. I know they're doing okay on this
wartime economy. But maybe we can learn some lessons from
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them too about production speed and things like that, because
we're sort of we produce it feels like at the
nineteen nineties speed, but Russia and Ukraine are certainly operating
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, before I letting you go, I really do want
to get your thoughts on the potential annexation of Greenland
to the US. Is that a reality and is this
something that the people of Greenland would want. It seems
that they've indicated no, but I know that they represent
a strategic military side as well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What are your thoughts on that notion?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Well, I know President Trump says that we need Greenland
for our national security. We haven't even had a first
offer to the people of Greenland. There hasn't even been
one conversation, and so it will be interesting to see
President Trump's new Special envoy, Governor Landry, as he begins
conversations with the Greenlanders. I do believe that the Danes
will try to insert themselves in those conversations because the
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Danes are terrified to lose control of the world's largest island,
although they can't afford to develop it or defend it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's absolutely right. That's some great thoughts right there.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Well, Carlo Sand's, former ambassador to Denmark, Greenland and the
Faroe Islands. Thank you so much for coming on today, madam,
and happy New Year to you.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Happy new Year, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
America's Voice Live will continue with more news of the
day after a brief commercial break, and make sure to
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RAPS twenty twenty five year end review feedback in a
few minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Welcome back to AVL.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Let's take a moment to catch you up on some
other developments. Last segment, we talked about Russia and Ukraine. Well,
now let's shift to President Trump wrapping up twenty twenty
five by driving peace forward in the Middle East. At
Mar A Lago yesterday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Yahoo called
President Trump the greatest friend Israel has ever had in
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the White House. Here's Prime Minister net and Yahoo.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
We've never had a friend even close a friend as
President Trump in the White House. I think he's been
extraordinary in his friendship and his support for Israel, his
principled positions, his willingness to just cut through, to get
through the essence of things. And I don't say that
(22:28):
as a compliment. I just mean it. People have heard
me say that behind your back, President many times, but
I want to say something else. I think we have
a partnership, if I can quote you, second to none.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
The two leaders laid out the path ahead for the
Gaza Peace Plan, focusing on Phase two and the full
disarmament of Hamas. President Trump was clear if Hamas does
not disarm as agreed, quote, They'll be held to pay.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
He said, it will be quote.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Horrible for them, really really bad, and then they have
a very short time to comply. Trump's in a strong
message to Iran if they try to rebuild their nuclear
or missile programs, America will quote knock the hell out
of them again.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
When question whether Israel was moving fast enough, Trump backed
them one hundred percent. He said, quote, I'm not concerned
about anything Israel is doing.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
They've lived up to the plan.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Trump teased expanding the Abraham Accords to include Saudi Arabia
and is closing out the year with peace through strength
and standing tough with our allies. President Trump signed several
bills into law yesterday signing HR ten forty three, the
Lapaz County Solar Energy and Job Creation Act, which transfers
thirty four hundred acres of federal land in Arizona to
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the county for solar development and new jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He also signed six.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Other bills into law, extending the Marine Debris Program, reauthorizing
the Congressional Award for Youth, extending Great Lakes Fishery Research,
improving public access to federal waterways and fishing data, extended
land benefits for Alaskan Native Vietnam era veterans, and extended
tax relief for disaster affected areas. And wrapping up the
years Strong with Winds for Energy, the Environment, veterans, and
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disaster recovery. And another news, Hamas confirmed the death of
Senior command Rayed Sayad in an Israeli precision drone strike
on his vehicle in Gaza City on December thirteenth. The
confirmation was part of a December twenty ninth video that
also acknowledged four other senior commanders killed, including the masked
spokesperson Abu Obeda. Sayad was head of weapons production for Hamas,
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a senior Hamas first acknowledged his death on December fourteenth,
calling the strike a cease fire violation. Sad helped mastermind
the October seventh, twenty twenty three massacre that killed more
than twelve hundred people and took two hundred and fifty
one hostages and ignited the Gaza War, leading to over
seventy thousand Palestinian deaths according to the Gaza Health Ministry,
and more than twenty one hundred Israeli deaths. The strike
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killed three other top Hamas leaders, including Sa'ad. The announcement
highlights major losses to Hamas leadership, and a new mass
figure has.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stepped into the Abu Obeda name.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
The targeting of these top officials demonstrates Israel's superior intelligence
and military precision.
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I'll discuss Nick Shirley's bombshell video that alleges billions of
dollars being used fraudently under the guise of being allocated
to daycare centers in Somali communities within the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
More on that after the break.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Welcome back to AVL yesterday.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
In the early hours of the day, content creator and
independent journalist Nick Shirley broke what could be the biggest
scandal as it relates to fraud in the state of Minnesota.
In his forty two minute report, Nick claims that the
fraud is coming from various daycare and learning centers stationed
in the heart of Somali communities in Minnesota, and when
he actually went to these facilities, most if not all
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of them were empty and the ones with people present
were not responsive to any questions as it relates to
the allocation of operation cost and the sourcing of said funds.
The most notable instance was when Nick showcased Quality Learning
Center which was misspelled, which had reportedly had ninety five
violations against them, yet received over eight million dollars in funding. Today,
(27:20):
the owner's son claimed that Nick had visited the location
after hours, but needless to say, the allegations seem stacked
against all facilities alleged to be involved. And finally, the
DHS and DOJ are conducting a massive operation in Minnesota
to get to the bottom of this. Joining me to
discuss all this is constitutional lawyer and former Green berae
Ivan Raklin, Ivan, thank you for being with me today.
(27:42):
Let's start with this video. Soon after this video, was
published by Nick Shirley. The DHS promptly moved and announced
an active probe into this industry. Do you see anyone
being held to account as of yet?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And where is it? Where's this going to go?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
First off, I want to thank Nick for doing the
great work and investigative journalism with the problem is the
last eleven years we've seen escalatory levels of treason that
still has not been addressed. I mean, no one's been
held to account, going back to the Biden criminal Syndicate
reign of terror when they did ten percent of a
big guy in twenty fourteen, and then from there we
just saw the escalation of our destruction of the constituent order.
(28:19):
I only see that what happened in Minnesota is just
one level of fraud and de seat of the American
taxpayer dollar and going.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Back at a minimum of decades.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
So when you ask me if it is anybody going
to be held to account, this current Department of Justice
is rampant of probably over ninety five percent of this
DOJ is still the corrupt scum that was in place
over the last decade, and they're there to make sure
that the leadership of the DJ and the FBI doesn't
hold anyone to account, and they already got one win
(28:50):
under their belt because Dan Vongino is quitting after the
year next year.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, that was a bit surprising and certainly I think
a big loss for da. Let's talk about elin Omar,
who has seen a sharp increase in her wealth via
her husband's net worth in recent years.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do you see this.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Development all at all being tied with Nick's video or
is that just a mere coincidence.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean it relates to the sense that she is
a Sabali citizen and I don't think she obtained her
US citizenship, and so she is an illegitimate member of
confer right, just like the Biden syndicate legitimate based on
the result of an illegitimate collection. So other than that,
(29:34):
I mean, I'll see any other relation to it. Continued
fraud and we effectively live in a failed state. Whereas
before it was a illegitimate tyrannic or sheet, now we
have a h An administration that is too cowardly along
with her bulkits of the House senator to hold anybody
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to account.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, I mean it's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
You know, people talk about the deep state, and it's
no longer for conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
It's actually just playing out before.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Our eyes out at Causeum over the years.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But the deep state is by any date place transgression,
gadding free relationships known as the deep State target list.
But we have yet to see one arrest, not not
even we have indictments that have failed. We don't even
have an arrest of John Brennan. We don't even have
an arrest of James of anybody. So, I mean, it's
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going to come a time where the American citizens are
going to have to essentially take charge and essentially dictate
our institutions on what they need.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
To be doing.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, and I think that President Trump promised that to
his base. You know, there's got to be some repercussions
for the actions that we've seen. Whether it's Brennan, call me,
whoever it is, it's got to happen. I mean, I
don't think it's bloodthirst. I think it's just reality. It's
that's what justice is. If there's no justice in the
Justice Department, how are we supposed to get anywhere? So
I completely agree with you there's gotta be consequences. But
I even right now, because of where you are, I
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do to switch gears because I understand that you attended
the federal court hearing on the DC pipe bomb suspect
Brian Cole Junior.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Today. Could you tell us how that went, what went down,
and what stood out to you.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, a couple of things that you're not going to
get the transcript that I want to address, liming the
time we have, is that one of the individuals that
has worked for I think over two decades for his
father who basically said that Brian Pole Jr. Is a
thirty year old kid with a fifteen year old brain autistic.
And so even if he did do it, I mean,
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it's a nice little pansy to be able to place
a pipe bomb that benefits the deep state massively.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And background that's here the.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, even if.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
The pipe bomber is the if Brian Pole is the
pipe bomber, I just don't see a DC jury convicting him.
And what was going on today was a detention hearing.
First off, the is not even sure if he's going
to uh acknowledge the grand jury indictment that was done.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Street the d C Circuit Court.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Stec's a little confusing where you have the US District
Court for the Federal District here right behind me, and
then you have DC District Court, the Circuit Court which
addresses DC crimes, and I guess it's under appeal on
whether or not a federal district court is supposed to
acknowledge a grand jury in the Circuit court. All I
see here is a complete slow role by Joscelyn Valentine,
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which is the lead prosecutor in this case and has
a little bit of history. Joscelyn Valentine the assistant Houst attorney.
She used to be the one that was spearheaded by
the deep state to go after General Flynn during his
trial and against Enrik h trio, the Proud Boys, and
the Nancy Pelosi fed direction pumper up trial against the
Proud Boys. I had an opportunity to confront her, I'm
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opposed to here after her to redo this interview, and
she didn't have much to say other than she knew
it's exactly who I was, and her co counsel kind
of screwed the law.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And I asked her simple questions such as, you.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Know, how do you expect America to believe you when
you were behind the fake weaponization against General Flynn, the
fake weagonization against the Proud Boys, and now all of
a sudden, you got this kid that's autistic, that supposedly
admitted to the crime without counsel. And he's autistic, I
mean seriously, and he acted alone, supposedly.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
We're supposed to believe.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I think my gut tells me it's a conspiracy. And
because defense counsel on Newmerous occasion, without prompting, said that
he acted alone, it wasn't a conspiracy to me. It
kind of just my Spidey says to tell me that
there's more to it than meets the eye. And again,
the government's not going to get to the truth because
they're not. They've shown to be completely incompetent at best.
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And the defense counsel obviously they're going to defend him
to the end because they have to continue to defend
the Fed direction narrative. It's going to be independent journalists
and independent investigators like us that will end up getting
to the truth of what happened on jan During six.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah, well, Ivan, it's the people like you, as you
just mentioned, Nick Shirley, I think we're seeing people just
go out there and do the work that the mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Will not do so.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Constitucial lawyer and former Green Bray and independent journalist Divan Raklin.
Thank you so much for coming on today, and have
a happy new year.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Sir Eric.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I appreciate you both.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Thank you, Hey, thanks Ivan.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But coming up after the break, I'll discuss what redistricting
efforts specifically in Texas mean for the upcoming midterm elections
next year. More of that coming up, and make sure
to tune in Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS
twenty twenty five Year in review. Back in just a
few minutes. Welcome back to America's Voice Live. I'm Bo
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Davidson and for Steve Today. The dialogue around the legitimacy
of redistricting, specifically when it comes to Texas, has been
ongoing ever since July of this year. At its height,
Texas Republicans argue that read districting efforts were a standard affair,
especially mid decade, and even Governor Greg Abbott sided a
Fifth Circuit Court ruling that changed how coalition districts are
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treated under the law. Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled on
these efforts earlier this month and gave Texas the go
ahead to use their new map in twenty twenty six,
a key year for many Americans as November is when
the midterms will be held. Join me to discuss this
is Texas State Representative Steve Toath. Steve, thanks for being
with me today, especially years end. Besides the map giving
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Republicans five more congressional seats, what other impacts will this
new Texas map have?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
These new maps absolutely take the handcuffs off of Republican
states where you know bo Honestly, it's amazing that Republicans
ever had control of Congress given the fact that the
courts of the past has said to the Republicans, you've
got to draw maps based on the color of somebody's skin.
(35:58):
They're not saying that to the Demo. They're sayings the
Democrats you can draw maps however you want in blue
states as long as it gives you a political advantage.
So that's why you've got New England, six states, fifteen
million people, twenty one congressional districts. It's forty three percent Republican,
yet not one, not one congress Republican congressional district. So
(36:22):
we have been fighting the Democrats at a gross disadvantage.
And there was a case it's called Petaway that basically
said no, you can. You can draw maps color blind.
And that's what we did. That's what we did in Texas.
And so you look at states like Indiana that we
could pick up another seat, which is which is a
two seat swing. Actually, if the Democrats lose one, we
(36:43):
gain one. It's a two seat swing. And yet the
cowards in Indiana will not do it.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Steve, you know, in its infancy, of course, many Democrats
were quick to call these efforts blatant jerrymandering. What do
you say to those claims? Now, especially after the Supreme
Court ruling, you.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Actually have to jerry mander in these democraty states. You
have to jerrymander in order to come away with with
twenty one congressional districts, and they're all democrat in in
the northeast part of the United States, which is forty
three Republican, that's where the jerrymandering is taking place. It's
(37:21):
not being it's not being jerrymandered here in Texas at all.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
So that's just pot calling the kettle black sounds like exactly. Well, well,
let's let's let's turn some efforts to California. You know,
Gavin Newsom has mentioned maintained his intention to redistrict California
to balance out representation. Do you think Newsom's push is
it legitimate or is it more of a retaliatory response
since Texas did succeed.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
As you mentioned in the end.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's completely retaliatory and it's stupid on its face. And
I'll tell you why. Is that the Democrats had already
jerrymandered California to the maximum of out. They got the
maximum number of Democrat seats that they could out of that.
And by doing what they're going to do, you're going
to put five or six seats, maybe upwards of seven
(38:09):
seats in play that Republicans in the past never had
a shot at.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So okay, so Steve won't ask you this.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
So with with California's redistricting move, would that give Democrats
more net seats in terms of to balance out what's
happening in Texas? Would they have a statistical advantage with
that plan?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I don't think they will. I mean, we've got so
the seats that we drew, now those are all safe
Republican seats. Right again, the Democrats. Democrats in California had
drawn all but five seats Democrat. And and yet again
(38:50):
it's you're still like thirty eight Republican in California. Yet
all but five seats now in California are our Democrats.
And so if they're to draw any more seats, they're
putting actually going to have to put seats in place.
So you're gonna take seats that we're sixty or sixty
two percent Democrat, and those are going to become fifty
(39:12):
to fifty two seats now Democrat, which gives Republicans an
opportunity here to for that they haven't had in the past,
which would it puts them in play. So no, I
don't think they're going to pick up five seats in California.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
So I got to follow up be then there, does
that mean California is saveable? I mean, is is there
actually an opportunity here for Republicans to make some gains
when so many have left the state.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, we can. We can make some gains in California.
That's what I'm trying to say. I guess it's a
clumsy way for me to say it, but yes, we
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Pick important to we win California.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
No, we're not going to win California I don't think,
you know, I don't think we're gonna win the governor's
race there, although they'd be wonderful we could, But we
are going to I think we could pick up some
congressional seats, all right.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
Steve, final question for you, other than California, do you
see any other Democrat states make a play in terms
of drawing and proposing new district maps.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I don't, I really don't. I don't, and I'll tell
you the reason why. Is that, Again, like I've said before,
the Democrats in these blue states have jerrymandered their states
to the maximum number that they possibly can. If they
try and draw additional Democrats seats, it's going to put
other seats in play because you've got to take you've
got to take Blue voters, historically Democrats voters and pull
(40:34):
them into another seat, which is going to weaken the
other seat that is already a strong Democrat seat. So no,
I just don't think they're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Real quickly, Steve.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Before we let you go, let's I want to find
out about your campaign for Congress in Texas to let
me know how that's going.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
It is going great. So it's crazy, is that I've raised,
you know, just five ten fifteen dollar donations for people
all over that are sending us money. And we've raised
more money basically in a four month period that I
had in six years of running for the Texas House.
People are squarely behind me in my effort to defeat
(41:12):
Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw has the only the only let's
put it this way, the only the only person that
has higher unfavorables than John Cornyn in the state of
Texas is Dan Crenshaw.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Well, congratulations Steve On on your campaign and best of
luck to you. We thank you so much for coming
on AVL today. Have a great rest of your day,
and of course, sir, Happy New Year, Happy New Year, bo.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Well.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
After the break, we will have a story that reminds
us of how wonderful America truly is. Plus your answers
to our America's Voice question of the day, which is
after President Trump's meeting with Zelensky, do you believe that
the end of the Russia Ukraine War is in sight?
We'll have those answers after the break.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What makes America wonderful?
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Well, we do it every day with the hope of
putting a smile on your face. Today's story comes to
us from Cottonwood, California, where an Amazon delivery driver truly
employed the fact that honesty is the best policy. Amazon
driver Connor Drake, was making a routine delivery when he
noticed something peculiar on a customer's front lawn. When Connor
(42:28):
went to examine what the object was, he quickly came
to the realization that a twenty dollars bill was just
sitting there now. While most would pocket the note under
the pretense of finders keepers, Connor was honest and forthcoming
by carefully placing the twenty dollar bill under the package
he was delivering, ensuring that the homeowners could take back
the misplaced twenty bucks. Later that day, the homeowners reviewed
(42:51):
their doorbell camera footage and saw Connor's gesture. Furthermore, Connor
returned to the house to receive a gift under the
homeowner's request, which he has decided to keep private. Honesty
and integrity the key values of a functioning society, and
Connor's actions certainly support that, reminding us of what makes
America truly wonderful. Now reminder, our question of the day
(43:13):
was after President Trump's meeting with voladimeter. Zelensky, do you
believe that the end of the Russia Ukraine War is
in sight?
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well?
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Our first answer comes from Larry Kutrier Junior, who says,
who knows these days? I believe it could be, but
I don't think Zelensky can be trusted. But I also
feel the same way about Putin as well.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I think Larry, that a lot of people agree with you.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Here's another answer from Wayne Brood, who says, I feel
like we are being played by Zelensky. Biden had some
kind of deal worked out with him, and I hope
we find out where all those tax dollars went.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you and me both. I would agree with you
on that.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Another answer here from Marty Klaus, who says Putin doesn't
want peace, he wants Ukraine. Marty, I think a lot
of people probably would agree with you on that. Let's
just hope that Putin comes to his senses and Putin'
Zelensky can agree on something that would be great for us.
Another ants here from Keighley Shively, who says no, because
Zelensky doesn't want it to end. He's making too much
money and if it ended, the elections would resume.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I think that's a fair point that you make.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
He's been getting a lot of money and now that
that money may be coming to a close. Sandy list
Street says, no, Putin won't stop.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
But we hope you're wrong, Sandy, but we'll see.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
David Smith says, as long as Putin stays in power,
the war will not end. It will take an internal
Russian civil war to depose him, and Mark Connor says,
I doubt it. There's no profit to be made for
Zelensky in a piece. Now, make sure to tune into
Wednesday at eleven pm Eastern for RAPS twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Five Year in Review.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
I'll be there along with Brian Glynn, Ben Bergwan lots
of folks. Thanks for joining us today in America's Voice Live.
I'm Bo Davidson.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Have a great day.
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