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in bitcoin going the long haul. Bringing centator around Johnson
of the Great State of Wisconsin, he's here with us.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Say welcome, senator.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
We talk a little bit about the Schumer shutdown or
week three, and you say, all the Democrats have to
do is vote for the clean cr and government can
open in an hour or even two.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Why don't you think they are refusing to do this?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, I'm hearing that they want to wait until after
October eighteenth, which is the next no King's protests. Could
the Democrats really be holding out for a protest? Is
that likely to happen?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, my guess is they can always count on
the legacy media supporting them, and so they remain pretty
pretty arrogant, pretty confident that they seem to be winning
the messaging war here.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Uh, it's completely unreasonable.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, all we're talking about is a clean continued
resolution at Biden's spending levels that they voted for those
their counteroffer again that that continuing resolution takes up to
the beginning of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Their counteroffer was a four week R.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And and and they'd be asking one point five trillion
dollars additional spending at one point, just a mere one
point five trillion.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So it's completely unreasonable.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But as I said, they are, they are pretty arrogant
in their in their feeling here.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Unfortunately, these shutdowns never play out fairly. Uh, even though
they voted these funding levels, they voted for clean crs
all the time. That's what they would always talk about
if one of our members kind of kind of forces
into a short term him shut down.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
But now they're completely.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Hypocritical and seeing the exact ops of things that they
said in the past, and the press doesn't hold them
new account.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So Senator to work through this with me.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And I'm speaking for a lot of my audience members
over the history of my career.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm a libertarian, I'm for a smaller government. No offense.
I just think government we can do better with our
own money than government can do for us. Here's my issue.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
In twenty nineteen, when COVID hit, Trump was president and
he increased spending to help basically save the world to
do what he could do. Obviously have to spend more
money with an emergency pandemic such as COVID. So he said,
here's another I think two trillion dollars he spent just
to make sure people were able to survive, right, things
were shutting down, got it, But it's supposed to be temporary.
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Biden comes in and not only makes those that spending permanent,
increases in another I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Know, trillion, trillion and.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
A half dollars. And now you say that became the
norm the base. How does this increase? The emergency spending
that you guys get become the new base. And we're
always spending more and certainly spending more than we're taking in.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, you do have the phenomenon of the unit party here.
We got big spenders in our party as well.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But you're right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
We went from four point four trillion dollars of spending
in twenty nineteen up to six point five and never
looked back. This year, we'll spend over seven trillion dollars.
By the way, just average deficits. Let me give you
quick little history. So George Bush in his eight years
average deafthicit of two hundred fifty billion dollars. And that
was a lot of money back then. We were all
outraged by it. Then Obama came in with the Great Recession.
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For his first four years averaged almost one point three
trillion deficits. That's sparks the Tea Party movement, I'm part
of that. We put restraint on him. Averaged five hundred
and fifty billion dollars in depthsts. For his last four years.
Trump took office, had Democrats he had deal with in
the Senate. That average went up to eight to ten.
Then the year COVID is a three point one trillion
dollar depthsit. And you're right, we should return to reasonable
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pre pandemic levels of spending right somewhere. You know, again,
with inflation, probably would have been higher than four point
four trillion, But I put together pre pandemic goalves of
spending somewhere between five point five and six point five,
depending on what you pick. Instead, Biden continued to spend
those levels, we average depthsits of one point nine trillion dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So we run from five point.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Fifty under Obama, eight ten under Trump COVID three point one,
and then we average one point nine.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's there's no justification for it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
But part of the problem is the five hundred and
thirty five member board directors here in Congress.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know, that's what we really are.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Many didn't even know how much we spent in total, right,
because we only appropriate twenty five percent of the budget
seventy five per cents on automatic pilot. And by the way,
it's a lot more than just solid skating Medicare and
even Medicaid. There's a trillion dollars of other mandatory spending
pretty well every every appropriation category that's undiscretionary. But they've
just chosen to, you know, the big spenders here chosen
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to call that mandatory, so it's never looked at.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's out of control.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and so we sit here and go, you guys
are fighting over additional trillion and spending likely ear mark
towards healthcare, and a lot of illegals would be would
be tapping into that. Republicans say no, and it's almost
like Okay, you're going to get something there, and and
everyone in d season, oh, we did it, we negotia,
we we the process is working, except, as you point out,
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spending one up another and we, I don't know, for
whatever reason memorialize the trillion and a half or two
trillion dollars that Trump put in there to temporarily save.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
The economy as a baseline.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's just it's crazy, and it's like where the clowns
here are going, Oh, great job.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now we're spending seven trillion taking in five and a
half trillion.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So I've often said, you know, it appears to be
just functional hearing, and it is. But this is a
well home process by the part of the UNI Party. Again,
I offered an eliminate shutdown apps. We voted on that.
Every Democrat vote against. Very simple bill. All to us
is it establishes automatic continuing rolling appropriations.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That's that's that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Just every two weeks, just get another continuing appropriation until
you get appropriation bill for that department. Again, there's there's
no advantage there. It just doesn't shut the government down
spends at last year's level. Not only did all Democrats
vote against it, but our Appropriation chair lobbied against it
with her committee, so we had I think twelve Republicans
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vote against that as well.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Go figure. Again, that's they love using the shutdowns.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Again, I'm not real nuts about to see how that
ends right before Thanksgiving because that's part of the pressure point.
So this is how the Unit Party does that. They
put these deadlines right for let's say Christmas, and then
they drop a two thousand page onto the spending bill
that nobody's read, nobody will read it other than the
few people who wrote it, slip all kinds of things
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in there, and just kind of dare you, you know,
vote this thing down and you know, we'll ruin your Christmas?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And enough people always cave.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
On our side and that thing gets passed and we're
thousand deaths. So this is a well honed process, totally dysfunctional,
totally out of control, mortgage r kid's future.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
But that's what we've got very.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Quickly, save about a minute or so, we're three weeks in.
What's the what's the one thing? What's the hew do
you grease the wheel to make to get government reopened?
I honestly, personally I say stay shut down.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
But that's me. So what's going to take Eric.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm kind of with you, I would say, right now
in Wisconsin, people aren't really noticing this because it's being
managed by a Republican president who's trying to make it painless.
When Republicans are kind of more responsible for a shutdown
and we're not this time, Democrat president will always make
a shutdown unbelievably painful the American public. That's how what's
happening right now. So the problem is I think the military,
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at some point in time, we'll run out of pay
air traft controllers. That's one of the reasons i've I've
proposed the Shutdown Fairness Act. If you can stay shut down, Okay, fine,
I don't have a real problem with that, but at
least let's pay the people we are forcing to work.
It's only fair and we'll see what becomes of that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, I tell you what, Pully, Congressman and senators pay
if you make and I know you're donating your paycheck,
which is admirable. But it's when the people who make
the decisions start wondering when the next paycheck is coming
that they tend to get their act together.
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Cenaer really good to have you on. I appreciate your.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
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RAV correspondent Bo Davidson joins us from Orlando, Florida. Stir
a couple of days ago, wonder four where Moms for
Liberty National Summit is taking place.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, tell us about this really really important to him.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Yeah, Eric, You know, Moms for Liberty started back in
twenty twenty one and was started by two women who
were school board members.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
They saw what was going on in our schools.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Obviously we know what happened in the pandemic, and a
lot of parents were concerned, so.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
They started Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
And Donald Trump was actually speaking at this conference last year.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
But there's a.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Great lineup of people including Benny Johnson, Byron, Donald's, his
lovely wife Erica, doctor Joseph Ladoppo, Attorney General James Uttmeyer.
All speakers at this conference trying to empower parents. And
I say parents because it's the moms and the dads
and their respective roles in terms of reclaiming rights to
empower their children to become better students, better citizens. We're
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talking medical liberty, we're talking religious liberty, we're talking.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Freedom of speech.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
All these issues are important and they're being discussed right now.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
At the Mom's for Liberty Summit.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Bo.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I guess the.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Essence is giving back parents' power and right to dictate
what their children would be, among other things, what they're
being taught in our school. How did they get to that?
How did they get into this? Do they go to
the school board meetings? Where's their in road to bringing
that power back to themselves.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Well, that's where Mom's for liberty is actually great because
they have legal they have legal actions that they can submit,
they have a whole legal team. In addition, yes, you
can go to your school board meetings, of course and
put pressure there. There's legislative ways that you can do it.
Interestingly enough, I interviewed a guy, Ryan Walters, Eric that
you may know if he was an Oklahoma school superintendent.
He's now created an alliance that's an alternative to teachers unions.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
And I think that that's something I had not heard before.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
But they're giving teachers an alternative to these school to
these teachers unions that are so overtaken by Democrat politicians.
So the fact that we have alternatives now, I think
is a is an amazing thing.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
And that's something I just learned that happened just recently.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
This is a relatively new group, right because I remember
only a handful of years ago, and it really helped
that Trump recognize them.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
How's that relationship.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I think it's a great relationship.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
As I mentioned, he did speak last year he considers
I think this particular group very very effective in terms
of getting parental rights back.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Of course, you know, Eric, we live in the Free
State of Florida, where Governor DeSantis has really, you know,
put the pedal to the metal in terms of parental rights.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
We're here in the land of Disney.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I know you spend a lot of time in Orlando,
and we've seen what Governor DeSantis has done with Disney
as well. The thing to know is that I think
that even the state of Florida has been a template
for other states to follow. That's at the state level,
But I think as we look at the national level
what President Trump is doing, we're seeing a lot of
great legislation coming out right now in terms of changing
the direction of our country. Look at no further than girls' sports.
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We have a number of female athletes here, Jennifer Say,
the CEO of xx x Y Apparel is here. These
are all important steps. I think that Moms for Liberty
can empower parents to do something right now and get
involved at the grassroots level.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know bout Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I'm guessing it's going to be one of their big states,
one of their big focuses, because we remember at Loudon County,
Virginia where the school boards with the whole trans issues
going on. It was a big uproar, you know, during
the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And now they're going to elect a.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
New governor, a new lieutenant governor, and there's a lot
of back and forth. In fact, the attorney general that
wants to be Attorney General of the State of Virginia
has already admitted that he texted about killing a former
opponent of his. They're big players in the state of Virginia.
Will they get some movement in counties like Loudon County?
Speaker 7 (16:27):
I think so.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
You know, speaking with James Lindsay earlier, doctor James Lindsay,
and we were harkening back to she Van Fleet, if
you know who that is, who came from communist China
and was talking about all the Marxist roots that have
basically infiltrated our education system. A lot of it is
happening in Virginia. So I think that is a race
absolutely to pay attention to. There's been some very very
inflammatory things obviously said in that debate the other night,
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and I think, yeah, I think Mom's for Liberty is
right at the heart of that scene. This is where
they can be effective. It's school boards, it's your vice principal.
My mom sent me a story today of something that's
happening in Hernando, mississip where a school administrator's voice support
for someone who was convicted of sexual battery of a child. Now,
how do you fix that, Well, you sign up with
groups like Moms for Liberty and you put pressure on
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these people. So because elections, Eric have consequences, they matter,
and if we're standing aside like idle sheep, nothing is
going to change.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
But I think the pandemic woke us all up.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
We saw what was happening, and I became a new
father Eric not that long ago, to a twenty month
old boy. I've got to start thinking about this. This
is something I never thought about before that I have
to pay attention to right now. And this conference is
eye opening for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You know, there's you mentioned a couple of them before,
a great lineup of speakers again, can you just go through?
And then Bien jumps out at me because living the
State of floor Byron Donalds and his wife Erica, all
very very conservative, great people.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, likely future governor probably too. But we got Benny Johnson,
we got Senator Ashley Moody, Byron Donald's, the aforementioned, of course,
doctor Joseph Ladoppo, Pastor John Amonchuku, very familiar to have
have audiences, Doctor James who I interviewed earlier, and of
course Floridattorney General James Uttmeyer, who's done a lot in
this state.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
So really good lineup.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Of speakers, and I think they're all speaking too, thankfully
here in the great free state of Florida, of what
can be done and what example can be followed if
you want to take control over your child's education. My
mom was a public school teacher eric for about thirty
eight years. A lot has changed, social media has changed
that the digital age competing with social media with screen time,
it's so and they're talking about digital age stuff here too,
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in terms of screen time and what your kids should
be watching. Thankfully, we've got a great partnership with Angel
Studios where there's alternatives. Now you don't have to watch
some of the woke crap that we've been seeing there's
lots of alternatives now, and that's part of the cultural
the war that we're in as well.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You know, there's a group like that, very conservative, you know,
pro Trump, i'd call MAGA. Maybe I'm not right to
call MAGA, but let's say they're America First. At the
very least, are they involved in election integrity at all?
Because that would strike me with the group of that
size and that much influence, they might get some movement
in the right direction.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
I think you're probably right.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I haven't seen that particular theme come up at this conference,
although we're only on day one, Day two, could you know, uh,
there could be a lot more happening in day two.
I haven't heard a lot about election integrity. But my
impression of what this group has done on a grassroots
level is nothing short of of incredible. I think of
it like we think of TPUSA as mobilizing the high
school and college kids.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
This is all about the.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Parents, and I think parents out there who have concerns
about what's going on in their their their their kids' education,
some of them may consider homeschooling. That's that's a that's
a very viable alternative school choice.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
These are big issues that are happening right.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Now, and I think for the better part of this conference,
I think we're going to see a lot of different
things discussed, but particularly focusing on school choice, religious liberty, vaccines.
There's so many topics that are being discussed here over
the next two days.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, charter schools too, Let's get let's get parents and
new parents like you. You have the ability to pick
your school at the government instead of wasting our money
in the public school system.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Send you some money.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You figure o out and you'll do a better job.
Bow always good folks, get out there. It's a great
conference Orlando, Florida, going through tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Great to see you both. Thank you. Yeah, we lost
the lost Okay, we'll be back two and a half minutes.
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his wife yesterday. Here he discussed all of this and more.
Senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and host of the
Victor Davis Hanson Show, Victor Davis Hanson, as we always say,
if you're in the room with Victor Davis Hanson, you're
in the room with the smartest man.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
In the room. Who else is in the room with you? There? Really?
Good have you? Let's start on will Hamas Iran? Will
this cabal hold.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
This cease fire and actually have a true complete end
to this war?
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Not on their own volition. It'll just there's three parties.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
There's the Arab moderates so called Turk and Turkey, Egypt,
the Gulf States, and then there's Israel, and then there's
the United States, and then there's Hamas out by itself.
And Hamas has to be dismantled and we can control
Iran with sanctions and they have no air defenses for now,
and Hesblah is being rebuilt but still neutered.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Hutis are neutered.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
But one of those entities has to deal with Hamas
and the other three, I mean the other two.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Have to allow it to do it.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
So either it's going to be the Arab regimes that's
so called moderates will have to deal with As. I
don't think they will, or the United.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
States will have to put troops or airpower in there.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't think we will.
Speaker 10 (25:08):
So it'll probably have to be Israel, and that'll be
contingent on the Gulf States, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey giving them
an okay, and US of course helping them with aid
or whatever. But somebody is going to have to keep
destroy the tunnels, keep Hamas leadership out of the picture,
and dismantle.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
How do they do that?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How do the Hamas has leadership roles within the Palestinian
I guess government or whatever we're going to call it.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
Well, you have to do the opposite of what we've
been doing.
Speaker 10 (25:42):
So when Israel hit got everybody got angry at Israel.
But Israel basically forced Gutter to come to US and
ask for a protectorate, and I think that the Trump
administration said, yes, we'll protect you, but you're not going
to host Hamas anymore. And then we said to Turkey,
you're not going to host Hamas anymore, and we're going
to debank them. We're going to bar them anybody connected
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with them with entry. Pressure our European allies to do
the same and make them persona non.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Gradai all over the world, and then.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
Deal with what's left of the Let Israel go down
the list if they rearm to say they have a
list of a three or four hundred of them, and
they'll just keep going down and eliminating them. But they
cannot participate their killers. They will never rehabilitate is Iran.
Are they showing the true self right now?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
No?
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Iran is rebuilding, it's recalibrating, it's trying to reach out
and say that now they might be moderate.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Why they secretly build another facility.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
They're trying to get their air defenses from the Russians
and the Chinese rebuilt. But it's going to be very
hard for them because nothing static. The United States is
becoming more and more powerful, and so is Israel. And
never going to catch up, and they think they are,
so we have to continue to be vigilant. Basically, if
I could be so candid. They are hoping there's a
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change of leadership, that a new administration on the left
will be in power, and then they think they can.
It's what one of the hostages said, as soon as
Trump was elected, everything changed for the better for the hostages.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Had he not been elected, they'd still be there.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
So that's their only confidence that they think that Trump
will not He will be gone and Mario Rubio Marco
won't be there, or Advance won't be there, and they
can get another Biden or Obama administration to appease them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
My fear is that's the same thing that they are doing.
A lot of the.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Business world is doing with Trump right now, promising to
bring manufacturing back to the United States and doing it
so slow that they won't have to actually put a
shovel inside ground until I do too, until.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
After he's no longer president. Quick thought on that, Yeah,
I do.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
I think Trump when he says we have eight to
twelve trillion dollars in foreign investment, it doesn't matter what
these other countries say. It matters what actually materializes, and
some of them, like Japan for example, are going to
wait us out until he's gone. And I think that's
saying true of some of our businesses that say they're
going to build these huge, you know, trillion dollar plants.
(28:21):
And it's very important that we think beyond the Trump
four years and who is going to follow him, and
can everybody unite behind that person and continue this very necessary, agin.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Very important, very important who takes over from here very quickly,
because I want to know the topic. It feels like
a bad decision to allow Cutter to get a military
base in Idaho.
Speaker 10 (28:47):
Yeah, it does it, Just I wish we knew what
we know, what the quotes. I want to know what
the quids are. What did they give up for that?
Did they say to us, We're we're not going to
have any more al jab zero, We're not going to
have any more Hamas people that we protect. We're not
going to fund radical Islamic programs at Columbia and you know,
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fifty million dollars a year point into America. I don't
know what we got for it, but we had to
get something, and I think that's something is connected with
the big negotiations that I don't think Hamas will feel that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
They Let's not forget guys, Let's not forget the leaders
of us. When when Israel started to fight back and
you go at them and start searching them out, they
were hiding in Cutter, And now Cutter is going to
have a military base in Idaho.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
You know, I hope somebody, I think everybody realizes that
they're they are the double dealers. They play a runoff
against the Saudi's, they play us off.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Against the Russians.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
They have a Hamas and I think the Trump administration
is we'd rather grab a hold of them and offer
them something and control them. But if they're not going
to control them and say this is what you can
do and this is what you can't. Nobody likes you.
Everybody's sick of you. You know, you don't have any friends.
Israel at any moment can really do damage to you,
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ruin your tourist industry, ruin your oil industry.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
They showed it.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
We can stop the Israelis from doing that, but we
want something in return, and I hope that return is
much bigger than what.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
We gave up, which would be great. I just don't
like the part and by the way, We'll let you
camp out in our backyard. That's it. I don't like
it either.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I just do you think Trump is playing with fire again?
I don't know what these negotiations are to offer Zelensky
in Ukraine, Russian the intel and Russian infustry, specifically Russian
oil infrastructure, which we know Putin was going to protect.
That hits his lifeblood. He's going to protect that to
the death. To offer that intel to Zelenski, it seems,
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is there. What's the political play here?
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Well, the political play is that everybody knows the outline
of the piece deal, and that is they're not going
to get back Donbass and the Ukrainians.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
They're not going to get back Crimea.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
They are not going to be in NATO, but they're
going to be armed and they're going to be a
deterrent power so they can't.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Be absorbed by Russia.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
And Russia it wants more as much land as they can.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
Get westward, so they justify this terrible miscalculation. It's cost
him a million dead and wounded and missing, and Putin's
got to go back to the oligarchs or the military
and say I got all of this land west of
the domebass in Crimea, and it was worth all this death.
And he doesn't think he's there yet, and we think
he's there. So they're going to argue over where the
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DMZ is.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But what I'm.
Speaker 10 (31:42):
Worried about is strategically, if he's going to hurt all
of these hospitals and schools, strategically it's justified to hit
him back.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
But it's a little bit.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
What's strategically justified is not the same as what's geo
strategically wise. And when you start violent lating the rules
of the Cold War for whatever good reason, that you
start in a proxy war to hit the homeland of
your nuclear rival with your weapons and using a proxy
in the way that khrusse Chev tried to use Cuba
(32:14):
to do the same to us. Whatever the reason is,
you're in a new your new frontier.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's dangerous. Yeah, yeah, I want to leave it there.
You know. My question is why broadcast it? Right?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So you want to have you want to have covert operations.
I'm sure we do. I'm sure we've given them a
lot of intel, but it didn't seem I couldn't figure
out why Trump would broadcast on the stage.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
I agree I agree, and I think he's trying to
put pressure on Putin and he thinks he knows Putin,
and Putin is going to give concessions a risk and
it doesn't have enough plan.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Do you think you know the dog the bite that
the dog that's sleeping over there or not necessarily sleeping,
but maybe this guy's not spooting them.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's sure you want to mess with them.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
That makes Davis Hanson appreciate your time, my friend, Thank you, sir,
Thank you Eric.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
All right, folks, we'll be back to and a half minutes. Well.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I love having my next guest on. He's a ball
of American spirit. In fact, he's like a meteor barreling
towards Earth at breakneck speed. Let's get right to the one,
the Only, Ted Nugent and the good Hey fun Ted, Welcome,
mister Ted. This this is huge we're bringing out because
Turning Point USA is putting on an all American halftime
show to counter Bad Bunnies performance at the NFL halftime show.
(33:57):
Tell us a little a little bit about that Turning
It is right there, Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Travis Trip,
Jason Alden, look at that, John rich Lee Greenwood amongst
others really exciting stuff.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Ted, Well, you know, I got to tell you dream
on they wish that this was the halftime entertainment because
this is real, all American hell raising soul.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
Music everybody on there.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
But the horrible thing about it, like everything on the
internet and the galactic insanity, none of that is true.
It's not going to happen. God knows the world. We
bet would be better if it did. But I understand
TPU and USA. They're putting on an alternative one to
the Bunny goofball and again the NFL. I've never seen
an NFL game in my life, and I'm not about
(34:42):
to start now. But ultimately, let me put it this way, Eric.
Here it is October twenty twenty five, and this everything
is insane, but I can cleanse my soul every day with.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
The mystical flight of the era.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
You've got to prioritize would that be a great halftime
show or what.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think this would be the better halftime show. I
can't wait to find out how many viewers you guys
draw away from the NFL. Bad Bunny, By the way,
I just literally watched Bad Bunny.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Don't get me wrong, I really don't care who they
put up at halftime.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I love but I used to love some of the
when it was rock and roll halftimes. Those were fantastic.
I really don't care who they put up. They got
their marketing ideas the NFL does, and then they're going
after hispanic audience says, okay, great, knock yourself out.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
My problem is bad, Bunny is not a good American.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
My problem is bad Bunny went to a WNBA game
the finals were last week. He went to a WNBA
game and stayed seated during the national anthem when everyone
in the crowd was standing up, and that pisses me off.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Well, and those are the kinds of anecdotal evidence that
one needs to review to make such decisions, and that
the NFL can't make that truth, logic, common sense, decent
decision is a vote against the those guys. But once again, Eric,
it's October. I got all my friends, my sons, my daughters.
They all love to go to sporting events. I'm not
(36:07):
a spectator. I don't spectate. I do stuff. This is
the greatest hunting season of my life. I'm doing these
unbelievable Detroit Motor City rock and roll soul music gigs
around the country called Uncle Ted's Speakeasies, And that way
I can be home every night with Tremaine and my dogs.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
What's more important than that?
Speaker 8 (36:25):
So God bless the NFL people that love to watch
those sports. I hope they have a good time. And
I don't know anything about this bunny dude, but I
don't really care.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
You cracked me up, digit, So how does this work?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
How much time do you know? How much time you're
gonna have on stage? And you think about what you
gotta play? Stranglehold, the Gouya Stranglehold, if they have to
play Price Storm Troop in Wango Tango, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Well, everybody on that list wants to play Strangleholding. Promise
he plays Cat Scratch Fever every night. Hank Junior plays
cats Scratch Fever every night. The Great Toby Keith played
Strangleholder every night because everybody needs real soul music at
least once per performance. So you know, I'm ready to
play all my songs. I love my music. I love
my music more than anybody loves my music. Jason Hartless
(37:13):
on drums, Johnny Big on bass guitar, It's It's It's
out of body, soulful, just so intense, so irreverence, so defiant,
so groove, so motown, so James Brown. So it doesn't
matter what songs I play, where I play them. They
all have a life of their own.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Wang Dang, sweet.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Dang, it's a love song. I'm the most luck you
are and I know that. And we talked about this
cat scrats ears. You know, the kiddy next door. The
lady next story had a cat, and you know, like
to play with kitty. I understand. So we drum up
some video back in the day ten usion back and
they remember I grew up watching ten news. And we're
gonna play a little bit of this that this is
(37:57):
tell us about this concert, and Ted's gonna come in
and swing on buying. And second here he is tell
us a little about what that concert was all about.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
You remember it, well, what that concert was all about
is going crazy and actually let rip when in doubt,
I whip it out. Nobody's had more fun with their career,
no matter what that career might be, especially in music.
Speaker 11 (38:17):
Why not a loincloth.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
I'm the only guitar player that shoots his own stage clothes.
I literally could shoot my stage clothes and then down
the road we can barbecue him. The point is is
that my band is so killer. My musicians at my
side are such killers, and the audience knows that there
might be a flaming arrow or a loincloth or coming out.
I wrote a buffalo on stage, a live South Dakota
(38:40):
bull bison between my legs. A lot of people didn't
understand that, But it's all about letting it rip.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
When you gotta play rock and roll.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
We consider every concert and audition to be James Brown's band.
My musicians are so gifted, so dedicated. They have into
fat well herculean work ethic, and they love rhythm and blues,
soul music. James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Little Richard my hero.
So every night is the most important concert of our lives.
(39:11):
And I've done seven thousand and seven of them and
I can't wait for seven thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So that's where your genesis is, That's where your true
north is.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
That's where you get your inspiration from the soul you know.
Back in the day soul artists. Elvis famously said he
grew up listening to gospel music. Gospel taught him how
to sing gospel taught him.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
How to write lyrics.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And for you, it's more soulful music. And your music
is just intertwined with the DNA of Your music is
from that soul patch.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
So tell us about it well.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
Eric I was born in Detroit nineteen forty eight. Les
Paul had just electrified the guitar from a background instrument
to the driving force of the best songs in the world.
Little Richard showed us to do what with his left hand.
I think it was his left hand playing the bass
parts on the piano. And Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley
and Dwayne Eddie and Lonnie Mass, these guys were milking
frequencies and tones out of the guitars and amplifiers that
(40:06):
were brand new, and being in the shadow of Motown
with those mystical, miraculous grooves of Funk Brothers, and listening
to James Brown and his band and all these great
soulful artists.
Speaker 11 (40:17):
Even though it's a.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Semi Caucasian version of an uppity soulful gospel blues song.
But remember the black artists finally threw off the shackles
of the worst cursive mankind of slavery and racism. They
really did throw it off when I was born. It
slowly took place, and so that music was so emotional,
(40:40):
it was so authoritative, so powerful, so infectious. So every
rock and roll song you like was inspired by the
Motown funk brothers, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, James Brown, Wilson, Pickett,
Sam and Dave, all these masters of coming out of
the cotton fields and just letting it rips such defiant irreverence, soulful,
(41:02):
authoritative music. And in twenty twenty five, that's still the
inspiration for the best bands out there. Night Ranger and
Sticks and Mark Farner, these guys are still out there
playing all these years later. Ted Nugent still playing rock
and roll concerts because of that emotional, soulful, authoritative black influence.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Know it, you know?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So you're you're the front man right ten Nision, your
front man of ten Nision, app some of the other
they're wrong Stones McJagger and Think Aerosmith, Stephen Tyler also
have this real ballady, soulful I guess DNA running through
their musical blood as well.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Do you talk to any of those folks anymore? Did
you ever? I do?
Speaker 8 (41:44):
I have a great connection with Sammy Hagar with Mark Farner,
the Grand Funk Railroad and one of the most talented
soulful artists in the history of the world. My Damn Yankees, Buddies,
Tommy Shaw and Sticks Jack Blades over in.
Speaker 11 (41:57):
Japan with Night Ranger. Right now.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
I keep in touch with Sammy Hager all the time.
I talked to Ricky Medlock from Leonard Skinner. These are
people who can still form syllables and have a reasonable
con conversation, and I'm echoing their core musical inspirational beliefs
right now. Every word out of my mouth is the
same inspiration for everybody, from Billy Joel to Steven Tyler,
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or Sammy Hager to Mark Farner, all these unbelievable soulful artists,
they all came from that defiant, unprecedented black musical authority.
We all want to be as tight as James Brown
have the cadence and lyricism and storytelling of Chuck Berry
and Little Richard. I mean, stop and think of the
(42:40):
lyrics back then. That's where I get Wang Dang Sweetpoon Tang.
In fact, there was a blues song by I think
it was Howland Wolf called Wang Dang Doodle what do
you think that might have been about. So there's a
lot of inspiration out there that coexists in all the
music genres. But when you really play with heart and soul,
it's got black influence.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You grew up watching you, Ted, I grew up listening
to The Who, and I think my first concert ever
was the Who in Chicago Stadium.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I saw a couple of clips on Instagram of the
Who in Seattle in September a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And wow, it just they brought it.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Like Unfortunately at Whistle is dead and Moon is dead
to the major members of the band, but Pete Towns
is still there. Daltrey couldn't hit the high note anymore,
but it was such a great performance.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It's just it's everlasting. Can you hit the high note? Ted?
Do you still have the high note in ere?
Speaker 7 (43:32):
No?
Speaker 8 (43:33):
You know, if I play Wango Tango, which is the
greatest white guy's attempt at Little Richard, I'm the only
white guy that ever got close to Little Richard, if
even Paul McCartney, I'm down. But anyhow, yeah, I can
still hit those high notes because I'm a man that
is influenced by the greatest philosopher of all times, Dirty
Harry when he said a good man knows limitations. So
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if I start out with the high screaming songs like
Sammy Hager does every song, then I can hit those
high notes. But again, I'm seventy seven this year. This
is outrageous, and this is my hunting beard, so I
look older than I really feel. But the music is
so inspiring. I'm telling you, Eric, when we hit the
stage every night, it's out of body. It's like a
martial arts, like a Bruce Lee musicianship thing. It literally
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takes over your entire being if you really believe in
the music and what you're talking about. The who in
twenty twenty five, Roger and Pete they still believe in
the music. They're so proud of those musical statements. So
when we get up on stage, it's literally the mountaintop
of the human experience. It's like being the greatest welder
in the world, which is more important than music. The
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greatest welder in the world, his welds will last forever.
What a great testament to work, ethic and dreams.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
It was inspiring seeing a lot of young people, new
young drummer, new young keyboards and a violinist who came
out as young lady and she just crushed the viable
in that song. Spur of the Wild on the Pursuit Channel.
You have your own show here. Tell us very quickly,
what if we can find Ted well.
Speaker 8 (45:07):
I believe in conservation, like right now, take a look
at my effervescent masculinity. I'm high on nature again today,
not just during the hunting season, but Shamaane and I
produce Spirit of the Wild TV and the Pursuit Channel
for thirty six years, over six hundred and fifty episodes,
celebrating God's healing powers of nature when you're a hands
on conservation participant, and it will keep you bright eyed
(45:29):
and bushy tailed and cleanse your soul. And that's why
it's the number one hunting show in the history of
conservation television.
Speaker 11 (45:36):
We're very proud of that.
Speaker 8 (45:36):
I think it's Shamaine's Queen of the Forest that does it.
That's really where all this power comes from.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
You go there, you go.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Always been having me on Ted Real, proud to have
you as a friend.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
And also as a colleague. Technology and everybody.
Speaker 11 (45:48):
Thank you, brother God's being Eric, God bless America.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
And you too. We'll be back to and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Very quick to put up that chart real quick, Ben,
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It's this show is out of control. It's becoming a
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Very quickly jump over to that QR code. You can
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Speaker 1 (46:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I appreciate your support. All right, let's do this very quickly.
We had this voicemail a couple of days ago. Just
hear a taste in the very quick go ahead.
Speaker 12 (46:45):
Then I just barn from the ways then again which
you never put me on TV? How you have bet
bragging on your damn president? Your present ain't done a
damn thing for the working co working people. You'll be
bragging on him and goes up.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
All this goes when you asked him out out.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
So that created a lot of voicemails. You guys probably
sent me maybe seventy five one hundred voicemails responding to that.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
So let's pull a couple of them. Ben, what's the
first one.
Speaker 7 (47:13):
It's just a viewer responding had this person here?
Speaker 9 (47:16):
We are, Eric Bullan.
Speaker 13 (47:18):
Mister Bullen, I appreciate your attempt to listen to any
and all of them. God bless you, and God bless you.
You know your your listeners because there's no way you
can handle everything that everybody is calling into you. But
I understand.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Said The point was, I had legitimate concerns, but I
pointed out he said, your president. It's our president, my man,
it's our president. He's a president of all Americans, like
it or not. There were so many. Let's play another one.
Speaker 14 (47:49):
Hey, Eric, is Angie from Farmington, Missouri. Hey, I just
heard that crazy message from the guy that said you'd
never put him up on TV. Thank you for sharing
that so that we can all understand how deranged as
our favorite president would say, or maybe lunatic. Some people
are in this world that anyway, Eric, you're doing a
(48:12):
great job.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Don't listen to the noise.
Speaker 14 (48:15):
I've watched you since the early days of Fox, and
I'm really glad that you're at rav now because that's
the best place to be. So anyway, keep on keeping
on and keep on doing good. Eric, we really enjoyed
you in the afternoon, most of us.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Thanks again again, most of us. Kim can make everyone happy,
so to speak. I think we got time for one
more ben, Let's do it.
Speaker 8 (48:41):
Hi, Eric, I just wanted you know that that crazy
bester that called your show today was really me disguising
my voice.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Again.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
The reason I did that was because I.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Wanted to motivate you and bringing the best out of you.
And if you'll notice, you were really on fire after
I did that, So you don't need to thank me.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
I thank you, and you got great jeans and let's
get the job done.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
All right, Well, thank you. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that
wasn't you, my friend, because you call it a lot.
You're this guy's funny. We put him up a lot
because he keeps them tight and he makes him pa
appreciate your calls.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Keep doing it, keep sending me the voicemails. I get
through them as many as I can. Just really really
appreciate all you guys do, because I want to hear
what you're thinking. I want to hear what's on your mind.
I want to hear what's important to you. That's how
we put the show together, put together the things that
are important to you. You're very interested in the Victor
Davis Hanson. I'm watching the chat light up about the
Katari basse in Idaho. Is it a training base? Is
(49:40):
it a war base?
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Is it a military base? We don't know, but we
asked these questions.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Have a great weekend, Have a safe weekend. The Warroom
is coming up next. We will be all about We're
back with you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Have a great night.