November 22, 2025 • 48 mins
Breaking Point with David Zere - November 22, 2025
A - David talks with Nationally Syndicated Radio Show host John Gordon
B - David and National Security Analyst Ken Abramowitz discuss Muslim threat to USA
C - David speaks to Mike Brest, Defense Reporter at the Washington Examiner
D - David chats with Eric Eggers, VP of Research at the Gov. Accountability Institute
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to Breaking Point. You're watching Real America's
Voice News. And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and their families here,
and Thanksgiving greetings to Erin and Fran holding it down
in the control room and they have to put up
with me every week, so thank you, guys and girls. Listen,
there's four house races in Virginia and New Jersey that
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may flip blue. And the outlook is at least plus
five to the dem side, and the best case scenario
is the Republicans pick up eleven seats. Best case for
Democrats right now is five next year. But I'm worried
you lose control of the House. It's game over for
the Trump agenda, right codifying all those executive orders, getting
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the agenda through. Who knows, we're going to crap. They're
going to pull urgent. All hands on deck, get Epstein
done with. You know, we got to we got to
take control of this ship here because it's very bad.
But I want to welcome our first guests in right now.
He's a nationally syndicated radio talk show host of the
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Truth with John Gordon.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
John, how's it going? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Fantastic David, Happy Thanksgiving to you. Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, great to great to have you, great to meet you.
And I know we've kind of run in the similar
circles over the years. I know you covered the primaries
with doctor Oz in Pennsylvania. I was there on election night,
on primary night, but we made to meet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So yeah, it was a somber crowd.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think there was a lot of issues,
you know, going on, right, you know, needed more money,
a couple other issues. But let's talk about what's going
on here. There's a scandal right in the twentieth congressional
district covering parts of West Palm and others in Florida.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Tell us about what's going on with FEMA.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, you've got this congresswoman named Sheila Sheffalus McCormick, and
she and her brother provided government services through FEMA during COVID.
She actually was running a vaccine program for which they
were paid millions of dollars. And interestingly, her company was
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overpaid five million dollars. Well, she forgot to mention that
to anyone. She pocketed the money and then put it
into her campaign and sent it in different directions. And
it just seems to me, Dave and this is not
a partisan statement. The truth will set you free. This
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is a repeated, consistent practice of the Democrats. I lost
Stacey Abrams two billion dollars and she's got ninety thousand
dollars in coaster ovens to show for it. I'm really
concerned about this federal government, which frankly, I say every
Saturday on my show is absolutely rotten to its core,
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and I'm worried about our country legitimately.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, I don't think you're wrong about that. I feel like,
you know, as there is corruption on both sides. There's
a stock market scandal going on in Congress. Now, there's
a lot of issues. The spending is crazy, but you
know what's going on with the Democrats in Congress. I mean,
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look at this thing blowing up in Stacy Plaskett's face.
Jeffries going after Epstein money after he was convicted, right,
Jasmine Crockett falsely accusing Lee Zelden of taking donations from
Jeff Epstein. But it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein the PA.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It was Jeff Epstein. It was just not the same one.
We've been this dominating the news for the last six
months or longer years.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Actually, tell us about what you see going on on
Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I think the Democrats really got snookerd. You know.
Trump said, no, you remember that. It was in the
cabinet meeting and he said, what you're still talking about Epstein?
Why are you continuing to talk about that low life
loser that was about two maybe three months ago? And
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then he remained quiet, He didn't say a word. The
Dems started demanding that we released the Epstein files. So
once he got them fully committed where there was no
turning back, he said, okay, we're going to pass along
Congress and we'll release the Epstein files. And now we're
finding out that Hakim Jeffries took money from the Jeffrey
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Epstein and that there are a lot of Democrats that
visited Epst. Dean Island, of course, no, none fewer than
Bill Clinton or more than Bill Clinton, I think with
a twenty some odd visits for forty I don't know,
a pretty significant number.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Maybe twenty eight maybe, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, Well, Bill Clinton's got this sordid pass right chasing
women around His state troopers used to find women. Look
at Paula Jones and then Bobby and Williams there's a
story that Bill Clinton was jogging at like pre dawn
hours and he met Bobby and Williams of prostitute.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He had sex with her and the bushes, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And then there's the Danny Williams thing with maybe the
son of Bobby and Williams, and he paid her off
with a slush fund to you know, put the kid in.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Catholic school as a deal to keep her shut up.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So you know, you know, I think the jury is
concluded on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I don't know how much we're going to gain
out of this. I just want it over with so
we can focus on those midterms.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I will tell you what we have to gain out
of it. And I am very serious about this. I think,
as I said, our federal government is rotten to its core.
I don't think the American people are really interested as
voyeurs to see who's on the list. I don't even
know what the list is going to prove. My fear
is that people will be on the list who never
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went to Epstein Island or road on these airplane but
just happened to be in these rolodecks. I mean, I
think you run a very bad risk of dragging good people.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Down Trump's yearning.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, ruining their.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Marriages and their lives and their careers because their name
just is on whoever whatever is defined as the list.
But I'll tell you why. The American people are not
letting this go because we smell a rat and the
rat is intelligence, the CIA, PASAD six. I don't know,
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but you know I'm sick of it. I'm right now
I'm sitting in Dallas, Texas to commemorate the sixty second
anniversary of the assassination of John Fitzgerald, the thirty fifth
President of the United States, who up until that time
was one of the most popularly elected presidents. And it
is now pretty evident that our own government, Alan Dallis,
Lyndon Johnson, and Jay Edgar Hoover conspired. They call it, Oh,
(07:14):
you're a conspiratorialist. Yeah, well, I wonder why, because it
was a mammoth conspiracy that involved the CIA, the mob,
and perhaps anti Castro figures. I'm not sure about the latter,
But anyone who bothers to take the time and actually
look do the work. James Douglas, Roger Stone, David Talbot,
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those are the unspeakable. By Douglas the Men, the Case
of the Men who killed Kennedy, in the Case against LBJ,
and the Devil's Triangle. Those to me are the definitive works.
If you read those three books and you draw any
other conclusion than our own government was complicit, I don't
know what it would be. And that is not the
country that I want my children in grandchildren to be
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able to live in. I mean, I wanted to live
in America. I just don't want to live in that
kind of America.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, I understand, and I get it. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One thing that really just boggles my mind is that,
you know, there's a lot of great people in our
intelligence services and there's like a big schism I think,
you know, going on. And it was like when they
went from human intelligence to you know, to signals intelligence,
took our field officers out off the continents, like when
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the embassies have blown up in Kenyon, Tanzania al Qaeda
Supposedly we didn't have any CIA operatives on the ground
in Africa, you know, so the culture changed Director of
Intelligence and Operations and there's a lot of battles. But
how in the hell did John Brennan become the director
of the CIA that really bothers me. I'll give you
the last word here.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, there's there's so much sketchy stuff about John Brennan.
He was the station chief in Saudi Arabia and actually
signed the visas for half of the people, half of
the terrorists that crashed the planes into the Twin Towers.
And then he comes to the United back to the
US and he ends up director of the CIA. And
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now we see that he is. His fingerprints are all
over Crossfire, Hurricane. They lied to Congress, they lied to
the American people, and they did it out of pure sheer,
greed and lust for power. It's got to stop. And
it's you and me and the American people that have
got to stop it. It's not a representative. It is
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we the people have to take a stand.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
John Gordon, Where can people follow you and listen to
your radio show?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well, we're all over social media on the typical sites Facebook, Live, YouTube,
x Getter, Rumble and Instagram. You can listen to us
on the John Fredericks Radio Network every Saturday noon to two.
And you can also go to John Gordon dot tv
and see me rant and rave about the deep State.
They're all there, all the past episodes are there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, say hello to John for me.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I just saw him at the White House a month
or two ago and look forward to speaking with you again.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you so much, saying to you and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
All right shore, Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Everybody will be right back and again a happy Thanksgiving.
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We'll be back with more Breaking Point right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Hello, Hello, thank you for watching Breaking Point on Real
America's Voice News. A happy Thanksgiving to you and your families.
Hopefully everybody gets into town safe. Thank god the shutdowns over.
I don't think the Dems wanted that on their hands,
because there would have been a total meltdown. Imagine the
airports are already terrible on the holidays. But I want
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to welcome right now to the show someone I have
a lot of respect for. I always look forward to
his insight on everything. Ken Abramowitz, a national security analyst
and the author of the Multi Front War Defending America
from Political Islam China, Russia, pandemics and Rachel Strife.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Welcome Ken, how are you, sir. Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, and now please give my regards to it. Rachel Erinfeld.
I'm a big fan. Well, we'll have her back.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So much going on out there, right, Uh, tell us
about what's going on with Care, uh.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And this scandal and this funding scandal.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Well, the America has a number of terror organizations or
foreign the official terminology is foreign terror organization or FTO.
And President Trump has gone after Antifa and the drug cartels,
but not the Mauslim Brotherhood and its various front organizations
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like CARE and Marco Rubio publicly said, uh, we should
declare Moslim Brotherhood or foreign terror organization, but then then
it stopped. So someone stopped it, uh in the in
the White House because it's a very controversial issue. And
so right now it hasn't been designated by the way
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it is as a Uh. The Muslim Brotherhood is designated
as a terror organization in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the Emirates,
in the Muslim countries, but not in the Christian countries.
It's one of the it's laughable or if it weren't
so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So my good friend Phil Haney, who I believe to
this day, was murdered, and you know, the Obama administration
terminated him because he was exposing a lot. He was
on to the San Bernardino attacks before they happened and
could have strung it together and probably could have warned us.
And I helped launch his book in the United States,
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See Something, Say Nothing. And you know, it's the same
thing under Obama. You know, like the care was in
the White House like over a hundred times with Obama,
you know, and I know that Trump administration is the
flip side of that. You know, they're one hundred percent
against you know, Islamic terror and stuff like that. But
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why can't they crack the code with care and just
dem them terrorist group they are?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Well, what's extra confusing is that Islamic terror comes in
two forms. It comes in physical terror, which is clear
to everybody a building blows up like nine to eleven.
But there's also what I call cultural terror, and that's words.
So I'll give you an example of a famous terror
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line Christians use in Hindus will convert to Islam, where
we're going to kill them now in that example that
Islamic terror refrained. No one killed anybody, just someone made
a statement that Christians use in Hindus should convert to
Islam or should be killed. So that's cultural terror, and
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we don't know how to handle cultural terror. We know
how to handle physical terror, but not cultural terror, and
we're going to have to learn. So one of my
arguments is we shouldn't. I know everyone loves free speech,
but I think people should not have a freedom of
speech to incite genocide. I think we have to draw
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the line when someone incites genocide, we should regard that
as the equivalent of physical terror and start putting people
in jail or declaring them a foreign terror organization for
their commitment to genocite.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Ken, all right, Jihattist killed one of my best friends,
and everyone in my family has been affected by jihad,
right nine to eleven other and so I have my
own opinions, you know about Islam and America. But where
do you draw the line? Because I don't like what
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I'm seeing in Dearborn. You know, these guys went into
Dearborn and are protesting Islam, and they're going up in
front of the city council saying and in the street
saying that the Islamic guys in the street as aberin
as they may be acting. You know, these guys are
going in the street Americans and saying they're chimping. Did
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they want any bananas? Every Muslim has to get out
of the United States now.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Zudi Jasser served as an officer in the Navy for
eleven years and the USSL PASO Saved lives was in
a I think he was in theater, you know. And
I had an uber guy tell me he escaped Somalia.
His father died fighting faradadd Somali warlord who was cooperating
with al Shabab, and his family fled to Kenya, came
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to the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Loves Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was with him in an uber on the way
to the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I had another guy who
served alongside Afghani and US forces from Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Speaks five language. He's an engineer. He was a cop
in Kabul and he, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Thousands of Muslims died alongside US troops as interpreters and
others in these conflicts. And he came to America for
a better life. So They're not all radicals who want
to blow up everybody. So how do you draw the
law and how do we intelligently go after this problem?
Because Sharia law cannot be in US law. And I'm
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sorry to run on here, and I get it, we
don't want Sharia law here. But what do you'd say
to the three million Muslims which will be seven million
Muslims and outpace the Jews in the US in just
like ten fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
We see Islam as both a religion and a political movement,
and ltus pretend that it's fifty percent religion fifty percent
political movement. The religion is protected by our constitution. So
someone can say I'm Maslim and I believe in Islam
for myself and my family, and they have the right
to do that. But when it becomes a political movement
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and they want to impose Islam on Christians, Jews, and Hindus,
they have no right to do that. Right by the way,
Jews and Christians don't impose Judaism or Christianity on other people.
Maybe in one thousands and years ago, they did not today,
and so Islam has to reform itself. We don't know
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how do we reform it. But one of the ways
to do it is simply say political Islam. The politicization
of Islam is illegal, just as by the way, the
politicization of Christianity or Judius is illegal. Can you imagine
some priest, or pretend a Catholic, a priest saying all
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Christians have to be Catholic, Protestants have to become Catholic,
or we're going to kill them right to jail. Okay.
Or how about some Protestants saying all Catholics have to
become Protestants or we'll kill them right to jail. So
things that are obvious for Christians and Jews should be
made obvious to Muslims. And that's one way to draw
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a line in the sand. And Sharia law is the
politicization of Islam. They're trying to impose Sharia law from
the seventh seventh century onto modern in America. That should
be illegal.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, well, when, okay, when you open a mosque, it's
not like a church. A mosque is like a claim.
You're claiming land in a foreign nation to you know,
move towards restoring the caliphates. Say right, and I get
I get all of that, and I understand Takiya. You know,
these guys are allowed to lie to get their agenda
across and and but but again, you know, how do
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you how do you separate it out? And and you
know we shouldn't be uh inciting and saying racist things
about Islamic people in the streets, asking them if they
want bananas. I mean, so they're hurting the Maga movement.
They're hurting you know, like Trump trying to build these
relations A mayor of Hami Tramik I was in Michigan
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and heard them speak, you know, supported Trump is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
A Muslim for the election. And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know, again, these these you know, the jihadist killed
one of my closest friends.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So you know, I'm just really concerned.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
How do you really have an intelligent argument instead of
saying every Muslim has to be deported? And you know,
I mean, do you know any instances where Sharia law
is in place in the United States right now?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Codified?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Well in Michigan and her stories and there was an
interview with one of the mayors there, I can't remember
if it's the same one you're talking about a different
one saying saying that Christians have less rights than Muslims,
which is a tradition of Sharia law. Scharia law is
really Islamic supremacy. And in America, as you well know,
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we believe in life, libery and pursuit of happiness for
one hundred percent of the population. We don't believe in
supremacy anything, whether it's white supremacy, black supremacy, Islamic, Christian
or Judaism. We're all created equal, and so I would
hold every mayor every elected official, whether they're Muslim or
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not Muslim, to the principle of life, libery, in pursuit
or happiness for everybody. And if they don't run their
city in the interest of one hundred percent of their population,
then I think we have to find some mechanism to
get them out of power, even arrest them for treason
if we have to. Because the law of the land
is life, living happens for everybody. You have to protect everybody.
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And I don't care who they are. They're human beings
and they deserve protection according to America law.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, I just want some intelligent, you know, debate about it,
you know, instead of you know, being out in the
street and burning Qurans and stuff. You know, because it's
a complicated issue and there is Islamic terra and I
have family and the JTTF that's broken up dozens of
attacks around the world. All Right, thank you Ken for
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coming on. Where can our viewers follow you? And I'd
love to talk about this further.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Sure, well, then go to my website. I've had it
for about ten years, Savedthwest dot com, and there's a
pop up menu they can sign up. It's complimentary. I
write an article every two weeks and they'll get the email.
It'll come right to their email. There's also a link
to my book at Amazon, but they can buy it
(23:21):
at other online stores besides Amazon. Say called the Multifront War.
I was going to call it how to Save Western Civilization,
but my editor changed it to the Multifront War. And
you'll learn about the one hundred different challenges that America
has and how we can solve them.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
All right, Ken Abramowitz, look forward to your expertise.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We'll have you back. Thank you, and enjoy your holiday
with your family. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yes, absolutely, guys, we'll be back. Thank you for watching
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Thank you for watching Breaking Point. I want to get
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right to our next segment here Mike Brest. He's the
defense reporter at the Washington Examiner. DEM's calling for an
insurrection against Trump. Welcome to the show, Mike, how are you?
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I'm good? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Could you imagine, like, why aren't these people, One is
Congress allowed to talk directly to the military without being
in front of like an oversight committee. They're openly calling
for an insurrection and to disobey orders be in subordinate
in a military.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Am I seeing what I'm seeing? Right?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So I think it's important to break down what they
were saying and as you said.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Who they were saying it to.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
And so there were six Democrats, all of whom have
experienced either in the military or the intelligence community who
came out earlier this week and put out a video
where they warned service members not to follow illegal orders,
but they didn't specify what those illegal orders could be
or whether illegal orders, in their opinion, have already been
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given to them.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
And so members of.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Congress do have the right, just like you and I
have the right to put out videos on social media,
and so from what I understand, they aren't in particular
legal jeopardy. However, been as you've seen, and many other
people have seen a lot of blowback from the President
and the White House and even Republican members of Congress
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who were critical that they would come out with such
an alarming video without actually putting any details to it
because it was such a vague video.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Sure are any Democrats speaking out against what they did?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I haven't seen many Democrats speak out in opposition to
what the lawmakers said, But I have seen Democrats come
out against the President, who in response to this video
actually accused them of treason and seditioned and said they
should be tried and potentially killed for it. And so
there has been The president's response was so bombastic in
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his usual form that it actually spurred some of the
Democrats to rally around this group of Democrats to further
criticize the president's response.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is Trump wrong? You know? I mean, I've never heard
anything like this in my life.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I think it's a very complex issue because we don't
know exactly what they were referring.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Yeah, right, and so I'm sure there was so much
for interpretation.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Sure, tell us about yourself, Mike, and tell us about
your coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Are you in the Pentagon and what are you doing
down in DC?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
So I cover the military national security for the Examiner.
I was a credential Pentagon reporter. I was one of
the I was among the group that did not sign
the document, And so I'm still covering the Pentagon, just
from slightly further away, and we continue to tell the
stories of service members and the decision makers at the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, maybe down there in the first week of December,
I will see.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
But so many issues going on. Tell us about some
other things.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Anything concerning you, any theaters heating up Venezuela, what else
is cooking?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
So I think all eyes are right now on Venezuela
because the US continues to carry out these strikes on
these drug vessels, but they haven't shown or at least
evidence to prove that they're drugs on these boats or
identified who they'd killed in these strikes. And then I
think it should be noted, and I think it's very
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important to point out the fact that the current navy
build up in the Western hemisphere right now is the
largest we've seen for decades.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
And so from the people I've.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Spoken with, the US military presence bar exceeds what would
be needed to carry out these drug strike or these
boat strikes, these operations. And so between that belief and
the president's own remarks about Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro, it
raises the question of whether these drone strikes on boats
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is the entire of the mission or if there could
be a larger goal in mine, the goal being the
ouster of Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, I know, the Gerald Ford is down there right
now and listen for me, and I get the terror
related thing. You know, I've been all over the country
following the Trump campaign, and you know, people are dying
in the streets of America. Manchester, New Hampshire, ten percent
of the population was overdosing every year, you know, So
you know, I get it, and but for me, I'd
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rather interdiction and capture the boats and you know, and
then figure it out from there. But I guess they're
trying to send a message. But I'm more concerned about Columbia.
They're producing more cocaine than ever. Is this going to
bleed over into Colombia.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
So I think you raise a very good point, which
is about cocaine. Most of the drugs that come from
Venezuela are cocaine that is produced in Colombia, as you mentioned.
And so the drug that kills the most Americans every
year is fentanyl, which actually comes from Mexico through China.
And so China has what are called precursor chemicals which
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they then stip to Mexican drug cartels which then use
those precursors and some technology that they have to effectively
manufacture fetanyl that is then smuggled by land into the
United States.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And so I believe the statistic was two years ago.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
About fifty thousand Americans died stolely from feentanyl overdoses. So
fetanyl is by far the most potent drug that is
widely available on ILLSA markets, and it's not coming from
Venezuela where these strikes are happening or off Venezuela and coasts.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
And so it.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Shows that the administration has talked about carrying out strikes
on these Mexican drug cartel fentanyl labs, but we haven't
seen it yet. And I think a big reason we
haven't to this point is because the Trump administration actually
has a pretty good working relationship with the Mexican government,
whereas alternatively they view Nicholas Mandora as the head of
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the snake in Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Sure, and all right, do you know anything about what's
going on in Mexico. I know there was like an uprising,
there was a big demonstration against the cartels.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I believe in Mexico City.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They're not happy with Shinebaum's response, Claudia Shinebaum, the President
of Mexico, saying it was illegal to go after the
cartels or something. Can you shed any light on that?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
So Mexican President Claudia Shambayin is in a very difficult
position because she wants to keep see Trump administration, keeping
the good graces of the Trump administration by helping them
try and reduce and ultimately eliminate fentanyl production and smuggling
into the country. But it's not as easy as said
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as done, given that the cartels do play a role
in this obviously, and they are not interested in stopping
their production of fentanyl. And so it goes back to
the question of is this a problem that Mexico can
handle alone? And so far it seems like the Trump
administration's belief is no, and they are willing to help.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
But the question is what does that help look like?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
And is the Trump administration willing to go further than
Shambyn will let that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Do you see Shininbaum cracking down at all? I know
that police in Mexico arrested Carlo Manzo or arrested the
guy who killed Carlos Manzo recently. Are they making any
progress against the cartels?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
I think they're trying their best. We've seen over the
last couple months. I believe the number is fifty five
cartel members be extradited from Mexico to the United States
that were arrested. There has been reporting that the Mexicans
had been cooperating on CIA surveillance overflights, which means they're
allowing the CIA to carry out surveillance via the skies,
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which I think is a big deal considering it allows
them additional ways to gain their intelligence. And so those
have been primary things that the Mexicans have done to
help the US and stopping fineral production, and they have
also surge service members to their side of the American
Mexican border.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well, I know some of the cartel groups are being
you know, either being killed or arrested down there, but
probably not enough. All right, I'll give you the last word.
We have forty five seconds. Where can people follow you?
And what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So I'm at the Washington Examiner. They can find my
byline there. They can also find me on x at
Mike Grestc. And I think we live in a very
wild time, and while the holidays are coming up, I
have a feeling the conflicts that seem to be going
on all over the world will not stop for them.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, it's a pretty incredible time and history here, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I know, Trum, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
To create peace in different theaters now in Sudan and others.
We'll see how effective that is. But I appreciate your coverage.
I'll have you back. Okay, I'm really grateful.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You came on.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Thanks Mike, have a great holiday with the family. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (36:24):
Podcast The Drill Down.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Welcome, How are you hey?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Dave's great to be with you in your audience. How
are you?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm great, I'm great. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank god the Dems
caved on this shutdown because don't mess with Mama's sweet
potet a pie on Thanksgiving. People need to get home right.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Yeah, I think they got what they wanted I think
they held out just long enough to kind of tank
the economy, to try to help swing some elections for
the governor's races in Virginia.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
And once that got done and they're happy to let
everybody get back to work and reopen the government.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I heard Schumer had a war room three months in
advance of this, preparing for this. Okay, so many issues
to discuss, right, I wanted to start by, you know,
we were young parents. I was twenty three, I already
had three kids. I bought a house at twenty seven
for one hundred and eighty five grand. That house is
worth six seventy five right now, and it's less than
thirty years later. Incomes haven't improved that much. Inflation's outpaced incomes.
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Unemployment for college grads is about six percent, you know,
coming out of college. The average homeowner is fifty nine now,
used to be thirty one back in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And first time.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Buyers it's forty years old, is set of twenty eight
just four years ago. And rates were two and three
percent five years ago, and they're six, you know, five
and six now. Hopefully they'll be in the fours again
it's still not enough, right, tell us about these fifty
year mortgages.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Yeah, So we did a podcast recently because we saw
the idea of a fifty year mortgage. Caught my eye
and I thought, that's I mean, all due respect to
President Trump, that's a terrible deal for the most consumers.
It's a great deal for the banks because they make
so much money. In fact, I think on a three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars house, a fifty year mortgage
versus a thirty year mortgage will save the average person
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about two hundred and fifty dollars a month, but it's
going to cost them hundreds of thousands more in interest.
So I thought, well, they're clearly trying to tackle this
affordability crisis. I don't think the fifty year mortgage is
the right way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
As you noted, every stat you just said.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Is incredibly indicting of how less affordable a house is today.
I think that it's now five to one in terms
of what the annual wages are, you know, for the
average person, versus of what it was three to one
a bit ago. And what we got into is like
there are several forces kind of shaping this. One is
the massive influx of immigration, and the other is environmental
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zoning and regulations, which can add hundreds of thousands of
dollars to the average cost of a home. In San Francisco,
environmental regulations add four hundred thousand dollars on average to
the cost of a home. And then you have to
kind of zoom back out and say, remember, like the
World Economic Forum, they had an essay entitled you will
own nothing and like it, and that was part of
their whole, like welcome to twenty thirty pledge.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
So some real forces that work.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And we see it.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
We see downtown areas getting rehabbed only with rentals, you know,
by railroad stations, so nobody's in a car. And that's
happening big time on Long Island here, and the American
dream is fleeting for a lot of people. So I
get Trump's attempt with the fifty air mortgage case. People
are only in their homes for like fifteen years, say,
and they can move on. But two hundred and fifty
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dollars a month is nothing. You know, people need to
save like fifteen hundred a month in order to get
into a home. With the types of salaries that are
being offered today. You come out of college thirty years ago,
you'd make seventy grand. Now you come out, you make
fifty and it's twenty five thirty years later.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So I'm worried. And anyway, I'll give you the last
word on that.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
No, I think you're right to be worried. And I
think not just you or me, the Trump Administration's worried.
That's why you see them floating this idea, why you
see them going to try to put some pressure to
lower interest rates again. I mean, they're talking about stimulus checks,
they're talking about subsidies directly, you know, to try to
lower the cost of insurance. They're even talking about like
collusion with the cattle ranchers. So they're doing everything they
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can think of to try to impact the cost of
how much everyday Americans pay on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, And what they're leaving out of the equation is
that local and state and county taxes are you know,
I'm paying thirteen thousand a year for a third of
an acre here on Long Island. So every time I
wake up every month, I owe eleven hundred dollars twelve
hundred dollars in taxes just for breathing, never mind my mortgage.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
So that's a big problem and Republicans are just as
guilty in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Here on Long Island.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
The Republicans have put a curb on, you know, tax
hikes for local government for the most part, but a
lot of towns haven't and big part of the burden.
I wanted to get into the stock trading scandal. Tell
us about it.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Well, as you saw, there's a bipartisan coalition of members
of Congress are attempting to reintroduce something that we've been
involved in here at the Government account of buildings, to
a ban on members of Congress from buying, selling, and
trading individual stocks. When Peter Schweizer wrote the book Throw
Them All Out, which came out back in twenty eleven,
it actually led ironically to this big push to pass
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something called the Stock Act, and then Congress a year
later gutted it in the middle of the night. And
so unfortunately, you know, they're backup to their old tricks.
Nancy Pelosi is retiring, But Nancy Pelosi is no longer.
I mean, she's been the most profitable in terms of
stock trades but she's not the most voluminous people like
Roecanna are buying and selling hundreds and not thousands of stocks,
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and so stock volume trading this year is actually on
pace to be a record high. So it seems wrong.
I think most people recognize it's wrong. And when members
of Congress are beating the market better than hedge fund managers,
you know that they have access to inside of information
and they're making money off of it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Wow. Tell us about Audic Frost. What's going on with
the Senate?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Well, yeah, from the people who brought you self dealing
and self enrichment in terms of people in public positions
of power, I bring you Unfortunately, you know this Arctic
Frost our last podcast about this. It's kind of like
a Coen Brothers movie. There are victims, but the victims
aren't necessarily good guys.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
It's a scandal.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I mean, it's the Biden administration's Watergate that they went
and sought information on ten senators and hundreds of Republican
linked entities, and.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Then in violation of law, they.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Got this Judge Bosberg in d ced issue a gag
order so that members of the Republican Senate didn't even
know that they were having their phone records handed over
at least on behalf of Verizon AT and T, to
their credit, refused to do so. But then in the
bill to reopen the government, Republicans slipped in a provision
that allowed them to sue to be paid up to
five hundred thousand dollars for each instance of their phone
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records being handed over in violation of the law. And
so you know, it puts them in a weird position.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
You've got people who.
Speaker 8 (42:59):
Were going without a paycheck for I think forty three days.
And in the bill you heard Republicans always say like,
we want to clean CR, clean CR. The Democrats are
the ones trying to add in extra stuff. And it
was a really bad look when the Republican senators and
they don't even wouldn't even say who it was, slipped
in provision to allow them to potentially be paid by
taxpayer money in the bill that was meant to reopen
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the government for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, and timing's everything. It's a bad look. You're worried
about the optics of that too, right, Well, it's.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
A bad look.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
The optics are bad, but it's just wrong, right, I mean,
you had the Democrats are the ones who were insisting
on getting health care for illegal immigrants, and that's one
of the reasons why they said they were going to
keep the government shut down. To your point about Chuck
Schumer's war room, I think they had other incentives. I
think they wanted to look like they were fighting against
Donald Trump, and this is obay to appeal to their base.
But at the same time, Republicans, I thought had the
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moral high ground on the issue. And so when something
like this gets slipped in and you got members of
the House saying, hey, I don't I'm not sure they
definitely didn't tell us they were doing that, it does
speak to something is wrong and it's not enhancing the brand.
Let's say for Republicans in the Senate, but.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Other groups like TPUSA, the RNC, Conservative Meadows, the Partnership Institute, Right,
Mark Meadows, Bannon Powell, Juliani, John Eastman, all victims of this.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Oh, absolutely no, it's like, think about this.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
The scandal and Watergate was that they had reporting try
to prove that Nixon was linked to an effort to
spy on political opponents. There's no need to prove that
the Biden administration was linked to this effort. It came
from his own Department of Justice, so you know, it's
directly at his behest.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
That is insistence.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
So I think the fact that they were collecting information
on political enemies as widespread as you just noted all
those names is a true scandal, and I think unfortunately
the breadth and scope of it have yet to fully
be appreciated, and it certainly has not been reported on
as breathlessly by regular media outlets.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, listen, I love Peter Schweitzer. You guys are great there. Eric,
sounds like you really got to handle on what's going on.
Tell us about what the Government Accountability Institute does.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Well, we do a few things, Thank you, Dave. We
do a podcast each week with Peter and myself.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You know, we do have several authors, have written books.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
I wrote a book on election integrity that actually came
out in twenty eighteen. It's called Fraud. Have the Left
plans to steal the next election? We've written books about
Gavin Newsom's corruption in California.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Seamus Bruner, a colleague.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Of mine, wrote a book called Control of Guards, and
Peter Schweitzer has a book coming out early next year
which we think will drive a lot of news and
hopefully shed some light on areas of the government to
need significant reform.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, outside of it, you know, I was in Palm
Beach last week. I'm down there.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You know, we have studios down there, and they're building
two hundred million dollar houses like chicklets everywhere. But outside
of that, everyone I talked to out there, I've dealt
with thousands. I've interviewed thousands of Americans around the country
in the past six seven years. Everyone can't make ends
meet unless they have a cushy job with the government,
a civil service job in a blue state, right, But
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everyone else is sucking wind and they're worried about the retirement.
They're supporting their parents, they're supporting their kids, and the
Republicans need all hands on deck this fall the next
fall to win to keep the house.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
I'm really worried it's gone. What do you say, Well.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
It's funny. I actually live in Florida. We live in.
Speaker 8 (46:22):
Tallahassee, the capital of the state of Florida, And so
you talk about how much money you're paying in taxes
in New York and Long Island. I would like to
say I feel your pain, but I do not because
we don't have a state income tax in Florida, and
in fact, Ron DeSantis, our governor, is I think, working
to eliminate property tax on homesteaded properties in the state.
And I think because what they're doing is they're identifying
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all the wasteful spending on behalf of the local governments
which they use. You know, they get they collect the
proper taxes, and they do stuff that most people wouldn't
agree with. So I agree with you. I think that's
an example of a policy idea that shows leadership but
touching people.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Where it matters in their pocketbook.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
You know, That's one of the reasons why I think
zoraon mom Doane was successful in New York. He was attempting,
he was offering to make their lives more affordable. And
so I totally agree. I think that's one of the
reasons why you see Donald Trump talking about this. They're
going to continue to talk about it. And actually, you know,
we've seen the drop in terms of support for Hispanics
or buy Hispanics for Trump.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I think that Trump.
Speaker 8 (47:21):
Administration needs to do a better job of connecting dots,
say listen. One of the reasons one of the reasons
why we're enforcing immigration policy is because we think that
that's another thing that's going.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
To help make things cheaper for you.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
So I think you can expect to see hear more
messaging about that moving forward.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
One hundred percent Erica Eggers. We have fifteen seconds. Where
can people follow you?
Speaker 8 (47:39):
They can follow me on x at Eric Underscore Eggers
and go to the drill down dot com.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Fin all of our podcast episodes.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Really appreciate your insights and Happy Thanksgiving to you and.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Your family, Sam, to you and your audience.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Thank you all right, wonderful, Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
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there's four house races in Virginia and New Jersey that
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may flip blue. And the outlook is at least plus
five to the dem side, and the best case scenario
is the Republicans pick up eleven seats. Best case for
Democrats right now is five next year. But I'm worried
you lose control of the House. It's game over for
the Trump agenda, right codifying all those executive orders, getting
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the agenda through. Who knows, we're going to crap. They're
going to pull urgent. All hands on deck, get Epstein
done with. You know, we got to we got to
take control of this ship here because it's very bad.
But I want to welcome our first guests in right now.
He's a nationally syndicated radio talk show host of the
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Truth with John Gordon.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
John, how's it going? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Fantastic David, Happy Thanksgiving to you. Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, great to great to have you, great to meet you.
And I know we've kind of run in the similar
circles over the years. I know you covered the primaries
with doctor Oz in Pennsylvania. I was there on election night,
on primary night, but we made to meet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So yeah, it was a somber crowd.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think there was a lot of issues,
you know, going on, right, you know, needed more money,
a couple other issues. But let's talk about what's going
on here. There's a scandal right in the twentieth congressional
district covering parts of West Palm and others in Florida.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Tell us about what's going on with FEMA.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, you've got this congresswoman named Sheila Sheffalus McCormick, and
she and her brother provided government services through FEMA during COVID.
She actually was running a vaccine program for which they
were paid millions of dollars. And interestingly, her company was
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overpaid five million dollars. Well, she forgot to mention that
to anyone. She pocketed the money and then put it
into her campaign and sent it in different directions. And
it just seems to me, Dave and this is not
a partisan statement. The truth will set you free. This
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is a repeated, consistent practice of the Democrats. I lost
Stacey Abrams two billion dollars and she's got ninety thousand
dollars in coaster ovens to show for it. I'm really
concerned about this federal government, which frankly, I say every
Saturday on my show is absolutely rotten to its core,
(03:15):
and I'm worried about our country legitimately.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, I don't think you're wrong about that. I feel like,
you know, as there is corruption on both sides. There's
a stock market scandal going on in Congress. Now, there's
a lot of issues. The spending is crazy, but you
know what's going on with the Democrats in Congress. I mean,
(03:40):
look at this thing blowing up in Stacy Plaskett's face.
Jeffries going after Epstein money after he was convicted, right,
Jasmine Crockett falsely accusing Lee Zelden of taking donations from
Jeff Epstein. But it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein the PA.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It was Jeff Epstein. It was just not the same one.
We've been this dominating the news for the last six
months or longer years.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Actually, tell us about what you see going on on
Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I think the Democrats really got snookerd. You know.
Trump said, no, you remember that. It was in the
cabinet meeting and he said, what you're still talking about Epstein?
Why are you continuing to talk about that low life
loser that was about two maybe three months ago? And
(04:33):
then he remained quiet, He didn't say a word. The
Dems started demanding that we released the Epstein files. So
once he got them fully committed where there was no
turning back, he said, okay, we're going to pass along
Congress and we'll release the Epstein files. And now we're
finding out that Hakim Jeffries took money from the Jeffrey
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Epstein and that there are a lot of Democrats that
visited Epst. Dean Island, of course, no, none fewer than
Bill Clinton or more than Bill Clinton, I think with
a twenty some odd visits for forty I don't know,
a pretty significant number.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Maybe twenty eight maybe, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, Well, Bill Clinton's got this sordid pass right chasing
women around His state troopers used to find women. Look
at Paula Jones and then Bobby and Williams there's a
story that Bill Clinton was jogging at like pre dawn
hours and he met Bobby and Williams of prostitute.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He had sex with her and the bushes, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And then there's the Danny Williams thing with maybe the
son of Bobby and Williams, and he paid her off
with a slush fund to you know, put the kid in.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Catholic school as a deal to keep her shut up.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So you know, you know, I think the jury is
concluded on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I don't know how much we're going to gain
out of this. I just want it over with so
we can focus on those midterms.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I will tell you what we have to gain out
of it. And I am very serious about this. I think,
as I said, our federal government is rotten to its core.
I don't think the American people are really interested as
voyeurs to see who's on the list. I don't even
know what the list is going to prove. My fear
is that people will be on the list who never
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went to Epstein Island or road on these airplane but
just happened to be in these rolodecks. I mean, I
think you run a very bad risk of dragging good people.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Down Trump's yearning.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, ruining their.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Marriages and their lives and their careers because their name
just is on whoever whatever is defined as the list.
But I'll tell you why. The American people are not
letting this go because we smell a rat and the
rat is intelligence, the CIA, PASAD six. I don't know,
(06:51):
but you know I'm sick of it. I'm right now
I'm sitting in Dallas, Texas to commemorate the sixty second
anniversary of the assassination of John Fitzgerald, the thirty fifth
President of the United States, who up until that time
was one of the most popularly elected presidents. And it
is now pretty evident that our own government, Alan Dallis,
Lyndon Johnson, and Jay Edgar Hoover conspired. They call it, Oh,
(07:14):
you're a conspiratorialist. Yeah, well, I wonder why, because it
was a mammoth conspiracy that involved the CIA, the mob,
and perhaps anti Castro figures. I'm not sure about the latter,
But anyone who bothers to take the time and actually
look do the work. James Douglas, Roger Stone, David Talbot,
(07:38):
those are the unspeakable. By Douglas the Men, the Case
of the Men who killed Kennedy, in the Case against LBJ,
and the Devil's Triangle. Those to me are the definitive works.
If you read those three books and you draw any
other conclusion than our own government was complicit, I don't
know what it would be. And that is not the
country that I want my children in grandchildren to be
(08:01):
able to live in. I mean, I wanted to live
in America. I just don't want to live in that
kind of America.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, I understand, and I get it. You know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One thing that really just boggles my mind is that,
you know, there's a lot of great people in our
intelligence services and there's like a big schism I think,
you know, going on. And it was like when they
went from human intelligence to you know, to signals intelligence,
took our field officers out off the continents, like when
(08:30):
the embassies have blown up in Kenyon, Tanzania al Qaeda
Supposedly we didn't have any CIA operatives on the ground
in Africa, you know, so the culture changed Director of
Intelligence and Operations and there's a lot of battles. But
how in the hell did John Brennan become the director
of the CIA that really bothers me. I'll give you
the last word here.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, there's there's so much sketchy stuff about John Brennan.
He was the station chief in Saudi Arabia and actually
signed the visas for half of the people, half of
the terrorists that crashed the planes into the Twin Towers.
And then he comes to the United back to the
US and he ends up director of the CIA. And
(09:11):
now we see that he is. His fingerprints are all
over Crossfire, Hurricane. They lied to Congress, they lied to
the American people, and they did it out of pure sheer,
greed and lust for power. It's got to stop. And
it's you and me and the American people that have
got to stop it. It's not a representative. It is
(09:32):
we the people have to take a stand.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
John Gordon, Where can people follow you and listen to
your radio show?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well, we're all over social media on the typical sites Facebook, Live, YouTube,
x Getter, Rumble and Instagram. You can listen to us
on the John Fredericks Radio Network every Saturday noon to two.
And you can also go to John Gordon dot tv
and see me rant and rave about the deep State.
They're all there, all the past episodes are there.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, say hello to John for me.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I just saw him at the White House a month
or two ago and look forward to speaking with you again.
And Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you so much, saying to you and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
All right shore, Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Everybody will be right back and again a happy Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 2 (11:36):
We'll be back with more Breaking Point right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Hello, Hello, thank you for watching Breaking Point on Real
America's Voice News. A happy Thanksgiving to you and your families.
Hopefully everybody gets into town safe. Thank god the shutdowns over.
I don't think the Dems wanted that on their hands,
because there would have been a total meltdown. Imagine the
airports are already terrible on the holidays. But I want
(12:32):
to welcome right now to the show someone I have
a lot of respect for. I always look forward to
his insight on everything. Ken Abramowitz, a national security analyst
and the author of the Multi Front War Defending America
from Political Islam China, Russia, pandemics and Rachel Strife.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Welcome Ken, how are you, sir. Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, and now please give my regards to it. Rachel Erinfeld.
I'm a big fan. Well, we'll have her back.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So much going on out there, right, Uh, tell us
about what's going on with Care, uh.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And this scandal and this funding scandal.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Well, the America has a number of terror organizations or
foreign the official terminology is foreign terror organization or FTO.
And President Trump has gone after Antifa and the drug cartels,
but not the Mauslim Brotherhood and its various front organizations
(13:35):
like CARE and Marco Rubio publicly said, uh, we should
declare Moslim Brotherhood or foreign terror organization, but then then
it stopped. So someone stopped it, uh in the in
the White House because it's a very controversial issue. And
so right now it hasn't been designated by the way
(13:58):
it is as a Uh. The Muslim Brotherhood is designated
as a terror organization in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the Emirates,
in the Muslim countries, but not in the Christian countries.
It's one of the it's laughable or if it weren't
so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So my good friend Phil Haney, who I believe to
this day, was murdered, and you know, the Obama administration
terminated him because he was exposing a lot. He was
on to the San Bernardino attacks before they happened and
could have strung it together and probably could have warned us.
And I helped launch his book in the United States,
(14:37):
See Something, Say Nothing. And you know, it's the same
thing under Obama. You know, like the care was in
the White House like over a hundred times with Obama,
you know, and I know that Trump administration is the
flip side of that. You know, they're one hundred percent
against you know, Islamic terror and stuff like that. But
(14:58):
why can't they crack the code with care and just
dem them terrorist group they are?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Well, what's extra confusing is that Islamic terror comes in
two forms. It comes in physical terror, which is clear
to everybody a building blows up like nine to eleven.
But there's also what I call cultural terror, and that's words.
So I'll give you an example of a famous terror
(15:27):
line Christians use in Hindus will convert to Islam, where
we're going to kill them now in that example that
Islamic terror refrained. No one killed anybody, just someone made
a statement that Christians use in Hindus should convert to
Islam or should be killed. So that's cultural terror, and
(15:48):
we don't know how to handle cultural terror. We know
how to handle physical terror, but not cultural terror, and
we're going to have to learn. So one of my
arguments is we shouldn't. I know everyone loves free speech,
but I think people should not have a freedom of
speech to incite genocide. I think we have to draw
(16:09):
the line when someone incites genocide, we should regard that
as the equivalent of physical terror and start putting people
in jail or declaring them a foreign terror organization for
their commitment to genocite.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Ken, all right, Jihattist killed one of my best friends,
and everyone in my family has been affected by jihad,
right nine to eleven other and so I have my
own opinions, you know about Islam and America. But where
do you draw the line? Because I don't like what
(16:45):
I'm seeing in Dearborn. You know, these guys went into
Dearborn and are protesting Islam, and they're going up in
front of the city council saying and in the street
saying that the Islamic guys in the street as aberin
as they may be acting. You know, these guys are
going in the street Americans and saying they're chimping. Did
(17:05):
they want any bananas? Every Muslim has to get out
of the United States now.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Zudi Jasser served as an officer in the Navy for
eleven years and the USSL PASO Saved lives was in
a I think he was in theater, you know. And
I had an uber guy tell me he escaped Somalia.
His father died fighting faradadd Somali warlord who was cooperating
with al Shabab, and his family fled to Kenya, came
(17:31):
to the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Loves Trump.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was with him in an uber on the way
to the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I had another guy who
served alongside Afghani and US forces from Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Speaks five language. He's an engineer. He was a cop
in Kabul and he, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Thousands of Muslims died alongside US troops as interpreters and
others in these conflicts. And he came to America for
a better life. So They're not all radicals who want
to blow up everybody. So how do you draw the
law and how do we intelligently go after this problem?
Because Sharia law cannot be in US law. And I'm
(18:09):
sorry to run on here, and I get it, we
don't want Sharia law here. But what do you'd say
to the three million Muslims which will be seven million
Muslims and outpace the Jews in the US in just
like ten fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
We see Islam as both a religion and a political movement,
and ltus pretend that it's fifty percent religion fifty percent
political movement. The religion is protected by our constitution. So
someone can say I'm Maslim and I believe in Islam
for myself and my family, and they have the right
to do that. But when it becomes a political movement
(18:43):
and they want to impose Islam on Christians, Jews, and Hindus,
they have no right to do that. Right by the way,
Jews and Christians don't impose Judaism or Christianity on other people.
Maybe in one thousands and years ago, they did not today,
and so Islam has to reform itself. We don't know
(19:03):
how do we reform it. But one of the ways
to do it is simply say political Islam. The politicization
of Islam is illegal, just as by the way, the
politicization of Christianity or Judius is illegal. Can you imagine
some priest, or pretend a Catholic, a priest saying all
(19:25):
Christians have to be Catholic, Protestants have to become Catholic,
or we're going to kill them right to jail. Okay.
Or how about some Protestants saying all Catholics have to
become Protestants or we'll kill them right to jail. So
things that are obvious for Christians and Jews should be
made obvious to Muslims. And that's one way to draw
(19:48):
a line in the sand. And Sharia law is the
politicization of Islam. They're trying to impose Sharia law from
the seventh seventh century onto modern in America. That should
be illegal.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, well, when, okay, when you open a mosque, it's
not like a church. A mosque is like a claim.
You're claiming land in a foreign nation to you know,
move towards restoring the caliphates. Say right, and I get
I get all of that, and I understand Takiya. You know,
these guys are allowed to lie to get their agenda
across and and but but again, you know, how do
(20:23):
you how do you separate it out? And and you
know we shouldn't be uh inciting and saying racist things
about Islamic people in the streets, asking them if they
want bananas. I mean, so they're hurting the Maga movement.
They're hurting you know, like Trump trying to build these
relations A mayor of Hami Tramik I was in Michigan
(20:46):
and heard them speak, you know, supported Trump is.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
A Muslim for the election. And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
You know, again, these these you know, the jihadist killed
one of my closest friends.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So you know, I'm just really concerned.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
How do you really have an intelligent argument instead of
saying every Muslim has to be deported? And you know,
I mean, do you know any instances where Sharia law
is in place in the United States right now?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Codified?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Well in Michigan and her stories and there was an
interview with one of the mayors there, I can't remember
if it's the same one you're talking about a different
one saying saying that Christians have less rights than Muslims,
which is a tradition of Sharia law. Scharia law is
really Islamic supremacy. And in America, as you well know,
(21:42):
we believe in life, libery and pursuit of happiness for
one hundred percent of the population. We don't believe in
supremacy anything, whether it's white supremacy, black supremacy, Islamic, Christian
or Judaism. We're all created equal, and so I would
hold every mayor every elected official, whether they're Muslim or
(22:03):
not Muslim, to the principle of life, libery, in pursuit
or happiness for everybody. And if they don't run their
city in the interest of one hundred percent of their population,
then I think we have to find some mechanism to
get them out of power, even arrest them for treason
if we have to. Because the law of the land
is life, living happens for everybody. You have to protect everybody.
(22:27):
And I don't care who they are. They're human beings
and they deserve protection according to America law.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, I just want some intelligent, you know, debate about it,
you know, instead of you know, being out in the
street and burning Qurans and stuff. You know, because it's
a complicated issue and there is Islamic terra and I
have family and the JTTF that's broken up dozens of
attacks around the world. All Right, thank you Ken for
(22:55):
coming on. Where can our viewers follow you? And I'd
love to talk about this further.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Sure, well, then go to my website. I've had it
for about ten years, Savedthwest dot com, and there's a
pop up menu they can sign up. It's complimentary. I
write an article every two weeks and they'll get the email.
It'll come right to their email. There's also a link
to my book at Amazon, but they can buy it
(23:21):
at other online stores besides Amazon. Say called the Multifront War.
I was going to call it how to Save Western Civilization,
but my editor changed it to the Multifront War. And
you'll learn about the one hundred different challenges that America
has and how we can solve them.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
All right, Ken Abramowitz, look forward to your expertise.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We'll have you back. Thank you, and enjoy your holiday
with your family. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yes, absolutely, guys, we'll be back. Thank you for watching
Breaking Point in Real America's Voice News. It's going to
be a heck of a year twenty twenty six. So
hang on, folks, we'll be right back. Welcome back to
(24:13):
Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. Happy Turkey, Gobble Gobble, Hey,
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Thank you for watching Breaking Point. I want to get
(24:35):
right to our next segment here Mike Brest. He's the
defense reporter at the Washington Examiner. DEM's calling for an
insurrection against Trump. Welcome to the show, Mike, how are you?
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I'm good? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Could you imagine, like, why aren't these people, One is
Congress allowed to talk directly to the military without being
in front of like an oversight committee. They're openly calling
for an insurrection and to disobey orders be in subordinate
in a military.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Am I seeing what I'm seeing? Right?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
So I think it's important to break down what they
were saying and as you said.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Who they were saying it to.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
And so there were six Democrats, all of whom have
experienced either in the military or the intelligence community who
came out earlier this week and put out a video
where they warned service members not to follow illegal orders,
but they didn't specify what those illegal orders could be
or whether illegal orders, in their opinion, have already been
(25:43):
given to them.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
And so members of.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Congress do have the right, just like you and I
have the right to put out videos on social media,
and so from what I understand, they aren't in particular
legal jeopardy. However, been as you've seen, and many other
people have seen a lot of blowback from the President
and the White House and even Republican members of Congress
(26:08):
who were critical that they would come out with such
an alarming video without actually putting any details to it
because it was such a vague video.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Sure are any Democrats speaking out against what they did?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I haven't seen many Democrats speak out in opposition to
what the lawmakers said, But I have seen Democrats come
out against the President, who in response to this video
actually accused them of treason and seditioned and said they
should be tried and potentially killed for it. And so
there has been The president's response was so bombastic in
(26:53):
his usual form that it actually spurred some of the
Democrats to rally around this group of Democrats to further
criticize the president's response.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is Trump wrong? You know? I mean, I've never heard
anything like this in my life.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I think it's a very complex issue because we don't
know exactly what they were referring.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Yeah, right, and so I'm sure there was so much
for interpretation.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Sure, tell us about yourself, Mike, and tell us about
your coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Are you in the Pentagon and what are you doing
down in DC?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
So I cover the military national security for the Examiner.
I was a credential Pentagon reporter. I was one of
the I was among the group that did not sign
the document, And so I'm still covering the Pentagon, just
from slightly further away, and we continue to tell the
stories of service members and the decision makers at the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, maybe down there in the first week of December,
I will see.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
But so many issues going on. Tell us about some
other things.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Anything concerning you, any theaters heating up Venezuela, what else
is cooking?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
So I think all eyes are right now on Venezuela
because the US continues to carry out these strikes on
these drug vessels, but they haven't shown or at least
evidence to prove that they're drugs on these boats or
identified who they'd killed in these strikes. And then I
think it should be noted, and I think it's very
(28:27):
important to point out the fact that the current navy
build up in the Western hemisphere right now is the
largest we've seen for decades.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
And so from the people I've.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Spoken with, the US military presence bar exceeds what would
be needed to carry out these drug strike or these
boat strikes, these operations. And so between that belief and
the president's own remarks about Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro, it
raises the question of whether these drone strikes on boats
(28:59):
is the entire of the mission or if there could
be a larger goal in mine, the goal being the
ouster of Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, I know, the Gerald Ford is down there right
now and listen for me, and I get the terror
related thing. You know, I've been all over the country
following the Trump campaign, and you know, people are dying
in the streets of America. Manchester, New Hampshire, ten percent
of the population was overdosing every year, you know, So
you know, I get it, and but for me, I'd
(29:27):
rather interdiction and capture the boats and you know, and
then figure it out from there. But I guess they're
trying to send a message. But I'm more concerned about Columbia.
They're producing more cocaine than ever. Is this going to
bleed over into Colombia.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
So I think you raise a very good point, which
is about cocaine. Most of the drugs that come from
Venezuela are cocaine that is produced in Colombia, as you mentioned.
And so the drug that kills the most Americans every
year is fentanyl, which actually comes from Mexico through China.
And so China has what are called precursor chemicals which
(30:05):
they then stip to Mexican drug cartels which then use
those precursors and some technology that they have to effectively
manufacture fetanyl that is then smuggled by land into the
United States.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And so I believe the statistic was two years ago.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
About fifty thousand Americans died stolely from feentanyl overdoses. So
fetanyl is by far the most potent drug that is
widely available on ILLSA markets, and it's not coming from
Venezuela where these strikes are happening or off Venezuela and coasts.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
And so it.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Shows that the administration has talked about carrying out strikes
on these Mexican drug cartel fentanyl labs, but we haven't
seen it yet. And I think a big reason we
haven't to this point is because the Trump administration actually
has a pretty good working relationship with the Mexican government,
whereas alternatively they view Nicholas Mandora as the head of
(31:04):
the snake in Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Sure, and all right, do you know anything about what's
going on in Mexico. I know there was like an uprising,
there was a big demonstration against the cartels.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I believe in Mexico City.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
They're not happy with Shinebaum's response, Claudia Shinebaum, the President
of Mexico, saying it was illegal to go after the
cartels or something. Can you shed any light on that?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
So Mexican President Claudia Shambayin is in a very difficult
position because she wants to keep see Trump administration, keeping
the good graces of the Trump administration by helping them
try and reduce and ultimately eliminate fentanyl production and smuggling
into the country. But it's not as easy as said
(31:48):
as done, given that the cartels do play a role
in this obviously, and they are not interested in stopping
their production of fentanyl. And so it goes back to
the question of is this a problem that Mexico can
handle alone? And so far it seems like the Trump
administration's belief is no, and they are willing to help.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
But the question is what does that help look like?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
And is the Trump administration willing to go further than
Shambyn will let that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Do you see Shininbaum cracking down at all? I know
that police in Mexico arrested Carlo Manzo or arrested the
guy who killed Carlos Manzo recently. Are they making any
progress against the cartels?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
I think they're trying their best. We've seen over the
last couple months. I believe the number is fifty five
cartel members be extradited from Mexico to the United States
that were arrested. There has been reporting that the Mexicans
had been cooperating on CIA surveillance overflights, which means they're
allowing the CIA to carry out surveillance via the skies,
(32:55):
which I think is a big deal considering it allows
them additional ways to gain their intelligence. And so those
have been primary things that the Mexicans have done to
help the US and stopping fineral production, and they have
also surge service members to their side of the American
Mexican border.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well, I know some of the cartel groups are being
you know, either being killed or arrested down there, but
probably not enough. All right, I'll give you the last word.
We have forty five seconds. Where can people follow you?
And what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
So I'm at the Washington Examiner. They can find my
byline there. They can also find me on x at
Mike Grestc. And I think we live in a very
wild time, and while the holidays are coming up, I
have a feeling the conflicts that seem to be going
on all over the world will not stop for them.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, it's a pretty incredible time and history here, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I know, Trum, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
To create peace in different theaters now in Sudan and others.
We'll see how effective that is. But I appreciate your coverage.
I'll have you back. Okay, I'm really grateful.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You came on.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Thanks Mike, have a great holiday with the family. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Thank you.
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Thank you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.
Download the Real America's Voice News app today. I want
to get right into it and I want to bring
our next guest on. Erica Egger's the VP of Research
at the Government Accountability Institute and the co host of the.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Podcast The Drill Down.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Welcome, How are you hey?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Dave's great to be with you in your audience. How
are you?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm great, I'm great. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank god the Dems
caved on this shutdown because don't mess with Mama's sweet
potet a pie on Thanksgiving. People need to get home right.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Yeah, I think they got what they wanted I think
they held out just long enough to kind of tank
the economy, to try to help swing some elections for
the governor's races in Virginia.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
And once that got done and they're happy to let
everybody get back to work and reopen the government.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I heard Schumer had a war room three months in
advance of this, preparing for this. Okay, so many issues
to discuss, right, I wanted to start by, you know,
we were young parents. I was twenty three, I already
had three kids. I bought a house at twenty seven
for one hundred and eighty five grand. That house is
worth six seventy five right now, and it's less than
thirty years later. Incomes haven't improved that much. Inflation's outpaced incomes.
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Unemployment for college grads is about six percent, you know,
coming out of college. The average homeowner is fifty nine now,
used to be thirty one back in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And first time.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Buyers it's forty years old, is set of twenty eight
just four years ago. And rates were two and three
percent five years ago, and they're six, you know, five
and six now. Hopefully they'll be in the fours again
it's still not enough, right, tell us about these fifty
year mortgages.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Yeah, So we did a podcast recently because we saw
the idea of a fifty year mortgage. Caught my eye
and I thought, that's I mean, all due respect to
President Trump, that's a terrible deal for the most consumers.
It's a great deal for the banks because they make
so much money. In fact, I think on a three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars house, a fifty year mortgage
versus a thirty year mortgage will save the average person
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about two hundred and fifty dollars a month, but it's
going to cost them hundreds of thousands more in interest.
So I thought, well, they're clearly trying to tackle this
affordability crisis. I don't think the fifty year mortgage is
the right way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
As you noted, every stat you just said.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Is incredibly indicting of how less affordable a house is today.
I think that it's now five to one in terms
of what the annual wages are, you know, for the
average person, versus of what it was three to one
a bit ago. And what we got into is like
there are several forces kind of shaping this. One is
the massive influx of immigration, and the other is environmental
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zoning and regulations, which can add hundreds of thousands of
dollars to the average cost of a home. In San Francisco,
environmental regulations add four hundred thousand dollars on average to
the cost of a home. And then you have to
kind of zoom back out and say, remember, like the
World Economic Forum, they had an essay entitled you will
own nothing and like it, and that was part of
their whole, like welcome to twenty thirty pledge.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
So some real forces that work.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
And we see it.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
We see downtown areas getting rehabbed only with rentals, you know,
by railroad stations, so nobody's in a car. And that's
happening big time on Long Island here, and the American
dream is fleeting for a lot of people. So I
get Trump's attempt with the fifty air mortgage case. People
are only in their homes for like fifteen years, say,
and they can move on. But two hundred and fifty
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dollars a month is nothing. You know, people need to
save like fifteen hundred a month in order to get
into a home. With the types of salaries that are
being offered today. You come out of college thirty years ago,
you'd make seventy grand. Now you come out, you make
fifty and it's twenty five thirty years later.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So I'm worried. And anyway, I'll give you the last
word on that.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
No, I think you're right to be worried. And I
think not just you or me, the Trump Administration's worried.
That's why you see them floating this idea, why you
see them going to try to put some pressure to
lower interest rates again. I mean, they're talking about stimulus checks,
they're talking about subsidies directly, you know, to try to
lower the cost of insurance. They're even talking about like
collusion with the cattle ranchers. So they're doing everything they
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can think of to try to impact the cost of
how much everyday Americans pay on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, And what they're leaving out of the equation is
that local and state and county taxes are you know,
I'm paying thirteen thousand a year for a third of
an acre here on Long Island. So every time I
wake up every month, I owe eleven hundred dollars twelve
hundred dollars in taxes just for breathing, never mind my mortgage.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
So that's a big problem and Republicans are just as
guilty in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Here on Long Island.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
The Republicans have put a curb on, you know, tax
hikes for local government for the most part, but a
lot of towns haven't and big part of the burden.
I wanted to get into the stock trading scandal. Tell
us about it.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Well, as you saw, there's a bipartisan coalition of members
of Congress are attempting to reintroduce something that we've been
involved in here at the Government account of buildings, to
a ban on members of Congress from buying, selling, and
trading individual stocks. When Peter Schweizer wrote the book Throw
Them All Out, which came out back in twenty eleven,
it actually led ironically to this big push to pass
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something called the Stock Act, and then Congress a year
later gutted it in the middle of the night. And
so unfortunately, you know, they're backup to their old tricks.
Nancy Pelosi is retiring, But Nancy Pelosi is no longer.
I mean, she's been the most profitable in terms of
stock trades but she's not the most voluminous people like
Roecanna are buying and selling hundreds and not thousands of stocks,
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and so stock volume trading this year is actually on
pace to be a record high. So it seems wrong.
I think most people recognize it's wrong. And when members
of Congress are beating the market better than hedge fund managers,
you know that they have access to inside of information
and they're making money off of it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Wow. Tell us about Audic Frost. What's going on with
the Senate?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Well, yeah, from the people who brought you self dealing
and self enrichment in terms of people in public positions
of power, I bring you Unfortunately, you know this Arctic
Frost our last podcast about this. It's kind of like
a Coen Brothers movie. There are victims, but the victims
aren't necessarily good guys.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
It's a scandal.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I mean, it's the Biden administration's Watergate that they went
and sought information on ten senators and hundreds of Republican
linked entities, and.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Then in violation of law, they.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
Got this Judge Bosberg in d ced issue a gag
order so that members of the Republican Senate didn't even
know that they were having their phone records handed over
at least on behalf of Verizon AT and T, to
their credit, refused to do so. But then in the
bill to reopen the government, Republicans slipped in a provision
that allowed them to sue to be paid up to
five hundred thousand dollars for each instance of their phone
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records being handed over in violation of the law. And
so you know, it puts them in a weird position.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
You've got people who.
Speaker 8 (42:59):
Were going without a paycheck for I think forty three days.
And in the bill you heard Republicans always say like,
we want to clean CR, clean CR. The Democrats are
the ones trying to add in extra stuff. And it
was a really bad look when the Republican senators and
they don't even wouldn't even say who it was, slipped
in provision to allow them to potentially be paid by
taxpayer money in the bill that was meant to reopen
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the government for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, and timing's everything. It's a bad look. You're worried
about the optics of that too, right, Well, it's.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
A bad look.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
The optics are bad, but it's just wrong, right, I mean,
you had the Democrats are the ones who were insisting
on getting health care for illegal immigrants, and that's one
of the reasons why they said they were going to
keep the government shut down. To your point about Chuck
Schumer's war room, I think they had other incentives. I
think they wanted to look like they were fighting against
Donald Trump, and this is obay to appeal to their base.
But at the same time, Republicans, I thought had the
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moral high ground on the issue. And so when something
like this gets slipped in and you got members of
the House saying, hey, I don't I'm not sure they
definitely didn't tell us they were doing that, it does
speak to something is wrong and it's not enhancing the brand.
Let's say for Republicans in the Senate, but.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Other groups like TPUSA, the RNC, Conservative Meadows, the Partnership Institute, Right,
Mark Meadows, Bannon Powell, Juliani, John Eastman, all victims of this.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Oh, absolutely no, it's like, think about this.
Speaker 8 (44:22):
The scandal and Watergate was that they had reporting try
to prove that Nixon was linked to an effort to
spy on political opponents. There's no need to prove that
the Biden administration was linked to this effort. It came
from his own Department of Justice, so you know, it's
directly at his behest.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
That is insistence.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
So I think the fact that they were collecting information
on political enemies as widespread as you just noted all
those names is a true scandal, and I think unfortunately
the breadth and scope of it have yet to fully
be appreciated, and it certainly has not been reported on
as breathlessly by regular media outlets.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, listen, I love Peter Schweitzer. You guys are great there. Eric,
sounds like you really got to handle on what's going on.
Tell us about what the Government Accountability Institute does.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Well, we do a few things, Thank you, Dave. We
do a podcast each week with Peter and myself.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You know, we do have several authors, have written books.
Speaker 8 (45:17):
I wrote a book on election integrity that actually came
out in twenty eighteen. It's called Fraud. Have the Left
plans to steal the next election? We've written books about
Gavin Newsom's corruption in California.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Seamus Bruner, a colleague.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Of mine, wrote a book called Control of Guards, and
Peter Schweitzer has a book coming out early next year
which we think will drive a lot of news and
hopefully shed some light on areas of the government to
need significant reform.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, outside of it, you know, I was in Palm
Beach last week. I'm down there.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You know, we have studios down there, and they're building
two hundred million dollar houses like chicklets everywhere. But outside
of that, everyone I talked to out there, I've dealt
with thousands. I've interviewed thousands of Americans around the country
in the past six seven years. Everyone can't make ends
meet unless they have a cushy job with the government,
a civil service job in a blue state, right, But
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everyone else is sucking wind and they're worried about the retirement.
They're supporting their parents, they're supporting their kids, and the
Republicans need all hands on deck this fall the next
fall to win to keep the house.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
I'm really worried it's gone. What do you say, Well.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
It's funny. I actually live in Florida. We live in.
Speaker 8 (46:22):
Tallahassee, the capital of the state of Florida, And so
you talk about how much money you're paying in taxes
in New York and Long Island. I would like to
say I feel your pain, but I do not because
we don't have a state income tax in Florida, and
in fact, Ron DeSantis, our governor, is I think, working
to eliminate property tax on homesteaded properties in the state.
And I think because what they're doing is they're identifying
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all the wasteful spending on behalf of the local governments
which they use. You know, they get they collect the
proper taxes, and they do stuff that most people wouldn't
agree with. So I agree with you. I think that's
an example of a policy idea that shows leadership but
touching people.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Where it matters in their pocketbook.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
You know, That's one of the reasons why I think
zoraon mom Doane was successful in New York. He was attempting,
he was offering to make their lives more affordable. And
so I totally agree. I think that's one of the
reasons why you see Donald Trump talking about this. They're
going to continue to talk about it. And actually, you know,
we've seen the drop in terms of support for Hispanics
or buy Hispanics for Trump.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I think that Trump.
Speaker 8 (47:21):
Administration needs to do a better job of connecting dots,
say listen. One of the reasons one of the reasons
why we're enforcing immigration policy is because we think that
that's another thing that's going.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
To help make things cheaper for you.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
So I think you can expect to see hear more
messaging about that moving forward.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
One hundred percent Erica Eggers. We have fifteen seconds. Where
can people follow you?
Speaker 8 (47:39):
They can follow me on x at Eric Underscore Eggers
and go to the drill down dot com.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Fin all of our podcast episodes.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Really appreciate your insights and Happy Thanksgiving to you and.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Your family, Sam, to you and your audience.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Thank you all right, wonderful, Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Everybody. This is breaking point on Real America's Voice News.
See you next week. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving
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