Charlie Kirk Show, February 11, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now there is pursue it to the authority of the
Secretary of Defense, Title ten, United States Code, Section one thirteen,
I direct the Army to change the names of the
fourth Liberty, North Carolina to forth Crag, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's right, Brag, He's back.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
As far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
If all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at
twelve o'clock, I.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Think it's an appropriate time. I would say, cancel it,
and all.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Bets are off and let hell break out.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'd say they ought to be turned by twelve o'clock
on Saturday. And if they're not returned, all of them,
not in drifts and drafts, not two and one and
three and four and two.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Saturday at twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
O'clock, and after that, I would say, all hell is
going to break up.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
We are three weeks into the second Trump presidency, three
weeks and tonight there are warnings that the US is
dangerously close to a constitutional crisis. Now the first shoe
on this drop when a federal judge today said the
White House is defying his order to unfreeze billions of
dollars in federal eight marking the first time that we've
had a judge expressly accused the Trump administration of ignoring

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a court ruler. And in a separate case today, federal
employees here in Washington told a judge that the administration
was defining another order by not reinstating workers who have
been put on leave. Now, this all has prominent Democrats
and many of the nation's top constitutional scholars declare that
the US is on the brink of a reckoning. The
Trump Justice Department says the presidents have the authority to

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decide how to run the government and that these judges
are overreaching, and so the President's alla say the judges
should not be judging any of the news to strinkt
the federal government.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Where are these leagues coming from, or look where.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Things coming from inside? And we know the first league
from a law is under current investigation. We think we
identify that person under investigation right now. The California League
Secretary Nome, you know, she's correct some of the information
we're receiving tensively toward the FBI. But I talked to

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deput Return in General all this weekend. They've opened up
for criminal investigation and they have promised that not only
this person will lose their job or lose your pension,
it will go to jail. They don't crimently prosecute.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
The guy who would not even be constantly eligible to
run for presidents is acting as president, a guy who,
if you were president, would be impeached immediately because he's
taking billions of dollars in foreign government ormoluments from all
over the world. And some people have actually been talking
about impeaching President Elon Musk right now. You know, on

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the theory that he's usurped the powers of the presidency's.

Speaker 9 (03:20):
President Trump and Elon Musk and our entire administration are
going to continue.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
To go line by line.

Speaker 9 (03:26):
And treat this federal government like a business. Money in,
money out, and what do we actually need to spend
money on to advance America's interests. That is our goal here.
That's all that's happening. Anything else is fear mongering by
the left because they don't have a real message and
they're deranged.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
There's no other way to put it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
The facts kiss the US matter, Charlie. Of course they do.

Speaker 10 (03:52):
Yes, every life.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
Do you support sending three million dollars ag is reel.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
To fund this well?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Actually support more than that.

Speaker 11 (04:01):
But yes, exactly, do support this whole project and supart
of the Christian.

Speaker 12 (04:07):
Side of this project because you believe Christian supremacy.

Speaker 13 (04:11):
I really don't. Actually, I want all people to come
to Christ.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You want all people come to Christ? See my Jewish
family members? You want us to come to Christ.

Speaker 13 (04:20):
Yes, I hope you accept your Shua as the Lord
and Savior because Christ is came who.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I hope you come to Jesus.

Speaker 14 (04:29):
You want why the Jewish stability that I grew up
with to come to Christ?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (04:35):
And if you give your life to Christ, you'll be
transformed with it.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So if we don't come to Christ, play with the consequences.
What do you want to happen with the Jews? Saw
the Jewish questions? I love you so much. I support Israel,
which sign am I?

Speaker 15 (04:48):
Well?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
The country is.

Speaker 16 (04:52):
So every day is a battle for your mind, raging
information coming from every angle, But the will to the sea.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I fear not.

Speaker 16 (05:10):
You found the place for truth, the voice, and a
generation that still has the will to believe in the
greatest country in the history of the world. This is
the Charlie Kirk Show. Tuck a lot. Here we go okay, everybody.

Speaker 13 (05:27):
Radio stations across the country honored to be with you.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
As always.

Speaker 13 (05:30):
You can email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. It
is a beautiful Tuesday back here in Phoenix, Arizona Battle
Command Station. So much happening, the clamor of liberal hysteria,
the ranker, the incessant shrieks that we hear from them
in the public square. It's fading. Where is le resistance?

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Where is the resistance? In twenty seventeen, they were in
the streets. They are screaming at the sky. They were
protesting in every state capitol. They were raising hundreds of
millions of dollars. By this time, the ACLU was so
cash rich they had to find trainees to go higher.

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They couldn't even decide where to spend their the excess
of the billions of dollars they had coming in rail.
Resistance in twenty seventeen seemed to be organic.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It was a top down squeeze.

Speaker 13 (06:37):
The richest people were opposing Trump, The grassroots were opposing Trump.
By this time, in twenty seventeen, we already had Michael
Flynn and trapped. We had kt McFarland issues, We had
national security advisor issues. Russia Gate was bubbling up. Bob
Muller was heading down the pike. We had a major
derailment of the mandate of the presidency. X was still

(07:02):
called Twitter was owned by Jack Dorsey. Elon was worried
about making electric vehicles. There was no Doge, there was
no JD. Evans. The first term was met by US
an insurmountable surge of opposition, well funded, curtailed activism, and

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the Democrat Party decided to make an epistemological and ontological decision.
They decided to make their religious purpose and meaning to
destroy Donald Trump. It's a very dangerous and tricky life

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choice to make every fiber of your being about removing
and thwarting a duly elected president the United States.

Speaker 15 (07:57):
Now.

Speaker 13 (07:58):
To be honest, it gave a lot of mentally ill
people meaning in their life. I've seen a lot of
them on campuses. A lot of these people have wanted
to kill me.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Literally.

Speaker 13 (08:08):
They've been arrested for threatening to kill me. They've been
arrested for threatening to kill Donald Trump Junior. They almost
killed President Trump. They had existential despair, and they tried
to fill their existential despair with.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
We hate the Orange man, and.

Speaker 13 (08:27):
Millions of people came out of the woodwork, some of
whom should have been in mental asylums, and march in
the streets, paraded through campuses, smashed windows, burned Wendy's, and
they said, we must defeat him.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
And you, of course know how the story unfolds.

Speaker 13 (08:45):
It's the greatest political story ever told that started as
an insurgency, was derailed by the bad guys, went into
exile and mounted a reclamation. And so now we're looking
across the horizon and the terrain, we say, where are they.
They're going to regather. They're going to regroup. But there's

(09:06):
a very fascinating wrinkle that is occurring here. Mental health
experts see a massive increase in despair and burnout. Axios,
which is a mainstream media regime operation, has published an
article claiming that mental health experts are seeing massive increase

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in patients who are Democrat voters complaining of despair and
burnout in the wake of President Trump's winning the election
and taking office for the second time. The piece claims
that worn out whiners are whining so much about not
being able to keep up with President Trump's shakunnawe and

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rapid fire policies. The article notes, quote, mental health professionals
say even people who don't see themselves as directly affected
by the administration actions are feeling frazzled by the dizzying
pace and Trump's enduring ability to command attention.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Quote.

Speaker 13 (10:06):
They may feel it through the venting of a spouse,
the distress of a neighbor with a trans child, or
an anxious friend who works for a government contractor. Andrea
Boonnois at Georgetown University Psychology prephas says quote, she said
she's seen an uptick in patience, particularly Democrats, expressing a

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sense of burnout, guilt, and despair at losing an old
way of life. Bonois writes she pointed to federal workers
who aren't sure if they'll be let go, as others
are concerned about their immigration status or worried about loved
ones whose refugee flights were canceled. Everybody they made a

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decision to religiously focus on the removal of Donald Trump
as their purpose. As Pascal famously wrote that every human
being has a God sized shape hole in their heart,
and every human being tries to fill that hole. And
we believe only our Lord is able to fill that hole.

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Democrats don't believe in God, and they believe that there
was a God, it would be him, So they don't
agree with any element of that. So therefore they must
come up with some construct, some meaning, and think about
how similar left wing activism has been to religion these
last couple of years. They would have group ceremonies similar

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to a religious experience. They would have approved music, they
would have banners, and they would have shirts, and they
would have incantations. The whole regime media was all focused
on this one singular human being. And contrasts that, by
the way, with when Donald Trump was removed from office

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in twenty twenty one, in February, March and April twenty
twenty one. We did not go into existential despair. We
went to work. And that is where you deserve credit
because you're not mentally challenged. And I know that might
sound like it's a little bit of a slight, but
let's just be perfectly honest. The current composition of the
American left includes not only but it includes basically they've

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redefined themselves a mentally ill faction.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's a serious structural issue.

Speaker 13 (12:24):
Organizations are all messed up by accommodating all the mental
illnesses from woke military to your not pronoun any mean correctly.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
To the DEI stuff to oh you offended me.

Speaker 13 (12:35):
The whole left wing project is constituted around this elemental,
agreed upon proposition that we all have something that we're
dealing with and we must pander to one another or
pandered to you. And every left wing organization is wrecked
by this.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's one of the.

Speaker 13 (12:56):
Reasons why you know, they're saying, Oh, we need our
own turning point USA. That's what they're saying. Calprin said
this on the program. The left wants to try to
create their own left wing turning point USA. It's going
to be really hard because at turning point, we don't
put up.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
With any of the stuff misgendering, you know, not garbage.

Speaker 13 (13:12):
But if all of a sudden, you're trying to start
a left wing turning point USA, well you got to
have equal representation of well, you got to have a training,
you got to have a black person, you got to
have a Hispanic, you got to have some sort of equilibing.
Can have a white man running it, because that would
be against our rules.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
So they have a.

Speaker 13 (13:34):
Philosophy that keeps them in shackles. We have so much
clip we could play here, but you're seeing the left
retreat from activism and now they're on the psychologist couch.

Speaker 10 (13:54):
Play cut seventy two.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, let me ask you.

Speaker 11 (13:57):
This, because the Democrats are in the minority, so you
have only so much leverge. Have you all essentially made
it clear to Mike Johnson that until they allow you
all to subpoena big ball.

Speaker 13 (14:09):
I don't know what that was on the cutcheet. I
assumed it would be relevant to what I was saying,
but it's not. But it was hilarious. Let's play cut
seventy four.

Speaker 14 (14:20):
For every American who doesn't want some weird Elon Musk
suck up searching through your personal private data. This is
your fight, your fight, my fight, our fight, and we will.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
Win this fight.

Speaker 14 (14:40):
Are you ready to say no to Elon Musk.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
We will fight it out.

Speaker 14 (14:46):
In Congress, we will fight it out in the courts,
we will fight it out across this country, and I promise.

Speaker 10 (14:54):
You we will win.

Speaker 13 (14:56):
Look, Elizabeth Warren should be a grandmother. I'm not going
to she should not be doing this screaming into a microphone.
She looks terrible. She's shaking. There's something biological in her list.
It's just honestly, go spend time with your grandkids.

Speaker 10 (15:08):
Do you have grand kids?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I hope you do. I don't know if you do
or not.

Speaker 13 (15:10):
This whole like I'm gonna go be an actress, change
the world. It makes you into a cruel, uglier person.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
Stay on offense.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
The shot and all continues, and the left they don't
know how to handle it.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 17 (15:53):
If you take the blue pill, the story ends. You
wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want
to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland,
and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 13 (16:09):
And once you go down the rabbit hole and you
pursue truth, you're actually more at peace. Christ our Lord
said peace, I give to you, peace I leave you.
The left does not have peace for many reasons. They
don't have any sort of connection to the divine.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
A lot of them. They don't have.

Speaker 13 (16:32):
A belief in the eternal, belief in God, belief in family.
So they've created this counterfeit meaning which we saw coming
from a long ways away, we knew was in the
last and now it's exhausted itself.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
They have spent that down.

Speaker 13 (16:50):
They've spent down the stockpile. They have the stockpile of energy.
And when you try to fit non let's just say,
let's say ugly things. That's if you try to fit
ugly things into your soul, eventually your body rejects it.

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And these left wingers, they're in a tough spot.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Be right back.

Speaker 13 (17:26):
It was an unwavering battle cry for justice, and now
you just hear the sounds of exhaustion. These disillusioned warriors
of progress. They've traded their placards for therapists appointments, and

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they're striving to mend the fractured psyche of a movement
that no longer feels at home. I mean, this is
just one of many, one after the other. And the
hysteria is a limiting currency, limited currency. There's only so
much hysteria that one can engage in and their rank

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and file. I am fascinated to see. And I'll talk
about this in a second hour because I'll be able
to talk about where I'm going next week. Not allowed
to do it till eleven am. Apparently is the campus
activity next week. I saw it during the twenty twenty
four election. It just missed On our side. It was gangbusters.

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We took over the entire campuses. We had thousands and
thousands of students in support of us. But what I
missed was where's the opposition? Where's the one, two, three,
f the bourgeois? Where's the five, six, seven, eight? You're
not going to make me engage in your hate or
whatever silly jingle that they have. Who is the one

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that they had against me that one time at university
of Illinois. I'm actually may or may not be going
I can't say that I might be going back to diverse.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Still, in my.

Speaker 13 (19:07):
This is Joy read. She's she's a very sad person.
It's this amazing irony that she's named Joy. Full crisis
and our democracy like no one believes you, even your
rank and files, like, stop it. Give me the annex, please,
I can't hand it. Where's the valuum? They they did

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full opposition against Trump and we beat them. They're so
overly dramatic, and I mean this sounds so cliche, and
I don't like doing cliches. But it really is the
boy who Cried Wolf. I mean, it is like the
perfect childhood story that kind of just is presenting in
front of us. It is, It's perfect. I can't think
of a better example. Play cut seventy three.

Speaker 11 (19:51):
But we begin tonight with a full on crisis in
our democracy. Et cetereral workers are literally locked out of
their offices. Operatives working for a private citizen essentially take
over our governments. In Their tactics include turning off our
federal websites, deleting government funded research that you, the taxpayer,

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paid for, to impose speech codes bullying news organizations by
demanding interview transcripts, inter implementing an FBI purge, locking federal
workers out of their computers, and even turning them away
at their offices, while giving themselves without congressional or any
other authorization.

Speaker 13 (20:32):
Full access. Okay, I got to focus on the earrings.
You got to get them up on screen. I'm sorry
before I go into the actual details. What is that?
So it's either one or two things? Is that a
picture of Africa? Is that an elephant? Or those ovaries?
I can't quite tell? Can get Can we get a

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zoom up on the joy read earrings? Those are the biggest,
those have their own zip code? Can we get a
little enhanced image there the earrings? I'm going for ovaries
or elephant? And if there it's an elephant, it's a
little ironic. I think it is an elephant. So she's
wearing Republican ear I think that's what do you guys think?

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Freedom at Charliekirk dot com? What the fresh heck is that?
Is it a dragon? I don't think it's a dragon.
I don't think it's ovaries. It's an elephant. Blake speak
from on high that it's an elephant. So what is

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she trying to tell us?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Can it become a Republican anyway?

Speaker 10 (21:43):
So, Joy, it.

Speaker 13 (21:48):
Looks like something Indiana Jones would fish out of the
Temple of Doom.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And I know it's.

Speaker 13 (21:54):
You need bigger ear rings next time, Joy, I can't
see them. Could you imagine in the production room at MSNBC.
I guarantee you there's some person in quality control at
MSNBC looking at this.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
They say, oh my gosh, what are we doing?

Speaker 13 (22:10):
And they want to tell her to get rid of
the earrings, but they know that she'll.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Be like, racist, You're terrible.

Speaker 13 (22:18):
So she has untouchable ability to wear the most horrendous
ear rings ever.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because you want to be called the racist anyway.

Speaker 13 (22:28):
So Joy read going on this rant about our democracy.
I would love to speak to her or anybody. And
this is why I can't wait to be back on
campus anbody who wants to talk about this, So make
it sure. So it's a threat to our democracy of
the person that the people voted for is fulfilling what
the people voted for.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
The New York Times.

Speaker 13 (22:43):
Trump's actions have created a constitutional crisis. Scholars say, oh yeah,
just like experts say that you shouldn't send your kids
to school during COVID or wear a mask when you
shower and take the nine different mrn eng and ulter
y vaccines.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
No one believes this stuff anymore.

Speaker 13 (22:58):
All these old tricks are exhaust and they're just going
to keep on running the same playbook. Meanwhile, dozes here,
cuts are here, and we're getting back to the founders
and framers intent for this country.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 18 (23:17):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. More than two dozen Christian and Jewish groups
are suing the Trump administration over immigration officials being allowed
to make arrests at houses of worship. The lawsuit was
filed in federal court this morning, arguing that the new
policy is spreading fear of raids, thus lowering attendants at churches, synagogues,

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and other houses of worship. As a result, the groups
will leave the policy infringes on their religious freedom, namely
their ability to minister to migrants. A similar lawsuit was
filed last month by five Quaker congregations. At last check,
the Trump administration had not responded to this latest lawsuit.
Cash Pettel's committee confirmation vote this Thursday and is full

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Senate vote can't come soon enough, as Homeland Security Secretary
Christy Nome is calling the FBI corrupt at issue our
leaks about ICE operations in Denver, Los Angeles and other communities. Gnome,
along with other top Trump immigration and law enforcement officials,
argue the leaks jeopardized law enforcement and lead to fewer arrests.

Speaker 12 (24:22):
And if you leaked it, we will find out who
you are and we will come after you. And it's
not going to stop our mission. It's not going to
stop the president's mission to make America safe again, I says.

Speaker 18 (24:34):
In all, more than eleven thousand illegal immigrants have been
arrested over the past several days. The administration has also
filed lawsuits against the city of Chicago as well as
the state of Illinois, looking to force those sanctuary areas
to comply with deportation efforts. The Elon Musk led Department
of Government Efficiencies getting a legal pushback as it continues

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to look for fraud, waste, and abuse in government agencies.
The latest challenge is a lawsuit that was filed by
a coalition of labor unions on Monday asking a federal
court to stop Musk and his team from accessing private
data at the Department of Education, the Treasury Department, as
well as the Office of Personnel Management. Among the personal
data allegedly being compromised is housing information for more than

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forty million federal student loan recipients. Social security numbers, drivers
license numbers, as well as other information have reportedly been
accessed as well. The American Federation of Teachers, which is
leading the suits and I'm quoting here, steamrolling into sensitive
government record systems has led to a massive data breach
that threatens to upend how these critical systems are maintained

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and compromises a safety and security of personal identifying information
for Americans or.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Costs of the country.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Charlie Cook is a terrific person. He's dream conservative, but
solid is.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
A rogery group show.

Speaker 13 (26:03):
You know that song by the police. Every Breath you
take is the NSA theme song. It's the FBI theme song.
Every step you make, every breath you take. I'll be
watching it. You play that song when they are spying
on you. That is their theme song.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Just remember that.

Speaker 13 (26:23):
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Joining us now is doctor Mark Moyer, professor at America's

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greatest college, Hillsdale College, but also a USAID whistleblower. Doctor Moyer,
welcome the program. Tell us about what you saw and
experience at USAID.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's great to be with you, Charlie.

Speaker 19 (28:03):
Yes, I worked at USA IDEA in the first Trump administration,
and to understand what's going on now there, you really
need to understand the first Trump administration because it was
a cesspool of corruption and bureaucratic resistance. Now, one of
the problems we had was the first basically year of
the Trump administration, basically twenty seventeen, there were very few

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political appointees, and so you had the bureaucracy essentially running
the organization and doing all sorts of bad things.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And this memory.

Speaker 19 (28:37):
Lingers for those of us who came in. I didn't
get there until twenty eighteen. There were very few of us.
Pete Morocco, who is now in a leading role, he
didn't come until even after that, and so you had
lots of terrible things happening. One was the administration was
continuing to push things like DEI and genderism, and you

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also just had all sorts of avenues for corruption, and
I reported some of that corruption, and then I became
a target of the bureaucracy and ultimately they pushed me out.

Speaker 13 (29:12):
So tell us more about what you learned and some
of the more outrageous examples and incidences at USAID.

Speaker 19 (29:21):
So one of the things I saw, and one of
the things I learned quickly was that there is a
strong anti Christian sentiment within the organization.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And this has a lot.

Speaker 19 (29:32):
To do with LGBTQ and abortion activism. One of the
interesting things about USA is you do have a significant
number of people who are children of missionaries and themselves
many of them are people of faith, but they have
to live in the closet because they are so afraid
of retribution. And under the preceding Obama administration, they had

(29:54):
gone to great lengths to try to purge any sort
of support for faith based organization. So when Trump came
in twenty seventeen, that was a priority. Let's let's work
on faith based organizations, Let's support religious groups. And oftentimes
in these countries they have some of the best people
and most dedicated people. And so I went out in

(30:16):
twenty eighteen and did a trip to Africa, and very
few Trump appointees had been there at that point, And
what I found was that the missions there were refusing
to work with faith based groups because they were still
operating on Obama era guidance from a year and a
half ago that said the establishment clause doesn't let us

(30:36):
do that, and that, of course.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is complete nonsense.

Speaker 19 (30:39):
And ultimately we were able to make some progress on there.
Of course, when the Biden people came back in, they
reversed that again because they are dominated by LGBT and
abortion interests.

Speaker 13 (30:53):
So you've told a story about a privilege walk, which
is just wild to hear. You had to play a
role as a scand in woman, yes.

Speaker 19 (31:02):
And that's another indication of how much the bureaucracy was
still in control in twenty eighteen. When I got there,
there should have been a session for new political appointees.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
There wasn't any such thing. There was nobody telling us
here's what the mission is, here's how you do it.
We were kind of left to fend for ourselves.

Speaker 19 (31:21):
But we did have to go through the new employee
orientation for career staff. And one of those things was
this so called privilege walk, where you stand in a line,
you have this role, and then they read out statements
like you know, people make bad stereotypes about me, or
I have trouble.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Getting services, and at the end, you know, you step
forward or back based on where you are.

Speaker 19 (31:42):
The white male is at the front, so everyone can
see that he's the one with the privilege, and then
everyone else's various distances behind.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
And this is just wrong on so many levels.

Speaker 19 (31:52):
I mean, for one thing, we're talking about adults here
who should understand that life isn't fair and some people
have more advantages than others. It also is aimed at
specifically pointing to white male privilege, which you know, as
people who've looked.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
At the serious thing.

Speaker 19 (32:09):
No, there's a lot of white males in this country.
You don't have very much privilege. You have a lot
of class privilege. You also have a white liberal privilege.
If you're a white liberal, you can get away with
a lot more and do all sorts of things you
couldn't as a white conservative. But the other thing about
this is it's basically intended to support left wing politics
because it's saying you are in your spot because of

(32:33):
your circumstances, you don't really have control. It's all because
somebody else is creating a bad situation for you. And
so this is a abdication of personal responsibility and of
course a reason to say, okay, well you know what
we need since you can't take care of yourself and
you're in the situation, we need the government to come
in and do things.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean, that's just extraordinary.

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Just evert understands that if you watch a video of
a privilege walk, it's incredibly disgusting and just repulsive where
they will differentiate you based on race and then tell
you well, because you're a white male, you have all
these advantages. And I mean you should say, well, actually,
you know, let's do a walk. Who here wants to
walk for that had two parents around, that had parents

(33:16):
that didn't commit crimes. I mean, if you want to
talk about the actual reasons why people are able to advance,
or how about those of you that wake up early,
don't do drugs, you know, actually.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Take your life.

Speaker 13 (33:27):
Seriously, if you were to give advice to the Trump
administration to fix USAID, what would you recommend.

Speaker 19 (33:36):
Yeah, well, I think they're already doing a lot of
great things in a lot of great directions.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You know, they moved in very quickly.

Speaker 19 (33:44):
They purged a lot of the bad actors who were
there when I was there, and people who helped get
me pushed out of the agency. And that includes the
head of the Office of Security.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
The ethics official.

Speaker 19 (33:56):
It's unbelievable how the people there who are supposed to
be in charge of wars and rules are actually a.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Big part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I think the biggest.

Speaker 19 (34:04):
Challenge going forward is to sort out what could still
be kept and what should be eliminating. I think everyone
you know, including Secretary Rubio uh would say, you know,
there are important things that we do with foreign aid,
but there's a lot of terrible things. And we've seen
all these stories about transgender operas and DEI comic books

(34:27):
and DEI consultants who get paid these huge chumps.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That obviously gets swept away.

Speaker 19 (34:32):
But the more difficult task is that the Biden people
have injected DEI, LGBTQ feminism, radical feminism into all their programs.
You know, even if something that seems very innocuous to think,
you know, a global health program seems okay and you know,
they're hiding the fact that they count transgender surgery as

(34:54):
global health.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So it's going to take a lot of.

Speaker 19 (34:57):
Time to dig through there and take that bad stuff
out and purge it from the programs that are still
worth keeping.

Speaker 13 (35:06):
Why do you think that this did not make bigger
news during the first Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, that's an excellent question.

Speaker 19 (35:14):
I think it just you didn't have somebody like an
Elon Musk out there banging the drum.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I started working on this.

Speaker 19 (35:23):
I published a book last year about what was going
on at USAID, but it was hard to get people's
attention because people said, well, we never heard.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Of us AID.

Speaker 19 (35:32):
In fact, I had suggested to the publisher we could
call Agency for International Corruption Again.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
They said, well, people just don't know this.

Speaker 19 (35:39):
So it took Elon Musk raising the issue and also
the approach they took at the beginning. They went in
and said, okay, give us your information, and the bureaucrats
tried to block them and gave them an excuse to
go in and seize all this information.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Because that was in the first turn.

Speaker 19 (35:57):
We couldn't get that the bureaucrats would stowe themall, even
senior points. They would not give information to Congress, and
so finally, thanks to Doze, we are now paying attention
and it's long overdue.

Speaker 13 (36:12):
Well, doctor Moyer, we love Hillsdale College. We appreciate you
blowing the whistle.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Thank you so much. Thanks great to talk to you, Charlie.
Thank you, talk to you soon.

Speaker 13 (36:23):
This is infected throughout the entire federal bureaucracy. I hope
you understand this when we talk on this program on
how terrible college campuses have become. This is an example
of how this mind virus has infected every portion of
our federal government. Privileged walks used to be something that
we're done at the most radical university campuses. They'd be

(36:45):
done in NYU, or they'd be done in Stanford. But
to do that with an USA idea, it shows how
the college camp physic campification of the country has been executed,
turn the whole country into a major college campus. Now
we are trying to unravel that, and at quite a
record pace. By the way, we're seeing it already start

(37:07):
to fall apart. Because it is an empire built on
a very brittle foundation. It is a fragile regime, and
holding the line is critically important. Who could possibly be
against the Department of Government efficiency.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Well, we know who the.

Speaker 13 (37:25):
Entire Democrat Party, and that's why we're going to play
offense on this topic. We want to make government official efficient.
By the way, in the second hour here coming up,
we have doctor Rand Paul, Senator Ran Paul, who is
the USAID crusader in Congress, who's been on this for
quite some time. And they'll say, oh, it's not that
much money. That is a terrible argument. If it even

(37:46):
saves five dollars to do as taxpayer, it's a fight
worth having. So next argument, Oh, it's not going to
add up very much, and what's the point? That is
a cynical, nihilistic view of budgeting. We do not subscribe
to it. Every time dollar taxpayer money should be cherished
and should be valued if you find an outrageous line
on them for five million bucks or twenty million bucks.

(38:09):
And by the way, under that belief, how many of
you go if you get a check at a at
a restaurant, or go through your visa bill and start
asking questions, are all you.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Guys just okay?

Speaker 13 (38:23):
If they just say, oh, sorry, you got to go
pay for the entree of the table. Next to you. Oh,
I guess that's fine. It's it's only twenty bucks. It's
only thirty bucks. We all check receipts. Why don't our
leaders do the same? Five million dollar line item is
the lifetime taxes of ten people. And this is exactly
the type of BS argumentation of how you get this
waste in the first place. It is our money, not

(38:46):
the government's money. We shouldn't let people propagandize us that
ten or fifty or one hundred million dollars is irrelevant.
That is a that is an attempt at hypnosis. They're
trying to hypnotize you. We need a full cultural transformation.
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Let's kind of get the energy going here. Let's go
to cut sixty four. Would you support white only dormitories.
Everybody has a choice, So I think white only and
black only anything is evil and wrong. That's why I

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hate critical theory and critical race theory because when it's
put in practice, when it's put in practice, you start
to discriminate people based on race. So we're now south
of the Mason Dixon line in North Carolina. We did
a lot of work to get rid of segregation in
this country? Why are you trying to bring it back?
What work the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four
in this state?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (40:41):
Actually in this state? Are there black only bathrooms out there?
Am unaware of? Or white only bathrooms?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Nah? Right, A lot of work was done in the state.
Your face is.

Speaker 13 (40:54):
Small, Well, thanks for being here. They always go to
insults when they lose the argument. God bless you. My friend,
he's gonna work for USA. I actually know he won't
because they're not hiring. But typically he'd be a great applicant.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Be right back. We're interrupting this program for a special
live report.

Speaker 18 (41:15):
We're interrupting your regularly scheduled programming. President Trump meeting with
the King of Jordan right now.

Speaker 21 (41:20):
Let's listen in remotely so he could go home early.
He voted remotely so he could visit school kids. He
voted remotely for an entire week once he just didn't
show up. Then, despite him voting remotely, doz his at times. Previously,
when Johnson becames Hanker, he ended remote voting because he
said it was quote unconstitutional. Unconstitutional, Yet he voted remotely

(41:45):
thirty nine times.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
A College of Challenges I want to tell youse me
away says, please, I didn't know that what you just said.
Two thousand children with cancer or other problems, and that's
really a beautiful gesture. That's really good, and we appreciate it.
And we'll be working on the rest. With Egypt, I

(42:09):
think you're going to see some great progress. I think
with Jordan, you're gonna see some great progress. Three of
us there, we'll have some others helping, and we're gonna
have some others at a very high level helping, and.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
The whole thing will come. It's not a complex thing
to do.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
And with the United States being in control of that
piece of land, a fairly large piece of land, you're
gonna have stability in the Middle East for the first time,
and the Palestinians or the people that live now in
Gaza will be living beautifully in another location.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
They're going to be living safely.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
They're not going to be killed, murdered and having to
leave every ten years. Because I've been watching this for
so many years, nothing but trouble. Everyone's being killed, they're
being robbed, it's.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like living in hell. And they're gonna end up having
a great home.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Great fanes that don't have to get lugged and killed
and beaten up and harassed by Hamas.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
And everybody else.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
And I know we'll be able to work something. And
you and you, what you just said about the two
thousand is fantastic. It's so beautiful, it's music to my ears.
But we're going to be able to work something. And
I know we'll be able to work something also with
I believe not one hundred percent, but ninety nine percent,
we're going to work out something with Egypt.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
It actually become famous. Right, How is the US? How
is my West going to own Gaza?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Your White House has made clear taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Dollars won't be used for this, So well, what one
you're going to used to buy?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
God, Well, we're not going to buy anything.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
We're going to have it, and we're going to keep it,
and we're going to make sure that there's going to
be peace and there's not going to be any problem,
and nobody's going to question it, and we're going to
run it very properly, and eventually we'll have economic development
at a very large scale, maybe the largest scale on
that site, and we'll have lots of good things built there,

(44:03):
including hotels and office buildings and housing and other things,
and we'll make that side into what it should be.
And the people from Gaza who wouldn't be able to
be there for years, because you're talking about just to
get it and prepare it and to take care of
all of the problems that currently it has. As you know,
tunnels and people are in those tunnels, and you have

(44:24):
some good people and some bad people, and you may
have hostages right now.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
You know, you have the hostages possibly there.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
They don't know where they are, and you know, I
have a Saturday deadline, and I don't think they're going
to make the deadline personally. I think they they want
to play tough guy. But we'll see how tough they are.
But it's going to be a wonderful thing. It's going
to be wonderful for the Middle East. I think it'll
turn the Middle East. I think you're going to.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Have piece in the Middle East. You're gonna eventually have
peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 15 (44:55):
There's some couldn't this deadline risk undermining the talks that
you're having with the the king today, risks the.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Kind of wider peace.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
That you were trying to do, because we're not talking
about a big situation.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
We're talking about something that can go very quickly. We're
talking about it's gonna go quickly. It's not going to
take a long time. Okay, that's not gonna take When
you know bullies, you know the bully is right, you
know the bully.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I've always and I found it throughout my life. A
bully is the weakest person. And they're bullies. Amasa's bullies,
the weakest people of bullies. You know that, right?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
President, you were saying that Palestinians will live somewhere else safe.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Where exactly do you want them to live?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Well, it's not where I want them to live. It's
going to be where we ultimately choose as a group.
And I believe we'll have a parcel of land and Jordan.
I believe we'll have a parcel of land in Egypt.
We may have someplace else, but I think when we
finish our talks, will have a place.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Where they're going to live very happily and very safely.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
And you know, I don't forget they only want to
be on the Gaza Strip because they don't know anything else.
They've never had an alternative, and they don't want to
be in the Gaza Strip, But they have no choice.
They have to be and they're being killed there at
levels that nobody's ever seen. No place in the world
is like as as dangerous as the Gaza Strip. They

(46:19):
don't want to be there. They have no alternative. Where
they have an alternative, Not one person will want to
stay where they are. Nobody wants to stay there.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
They're living in hell. It's a death trip.

Speaker 12 (46:31):
As a president, how do you know that the Palestinians
don't want to leave their land.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Some people say this is ethnic cleansing. You won't be
able to force them to leave their land.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
This way, we will be into a beautiful location where
they have new homes, where they can live safely, where
they'll have doctors in medical and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
And I think it's going to be great. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Any questions, King Alla, what do you think about the
US taking over the Gondstript?

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Do you want to see the US own the Gaza Strip?

Speaker 22 (46:58):
Well, I think, as I said to earlier, the President
is looking at Egypt coming to present their plan. As
I said, we will be in Saudi Arabia to discuss
how we can work with the President and with the
United States. So I think let's wait until the Egyptians
can come and presented to the president and get ahead
of ourselves.

Speaker 13 (47:17):
Is our partial land Jordan, that you're willing to have housing?

Speaker 22 (47:19):
Well, I think what we said. I have to look
at the bessages of my country. I think the President
is very happy that we do this thing with two
thousand children as quickly as possible. And again I believe
that the President is looking forward to getting a group
of US Arabs here to discuss the overall plan.

Speaker 13 (47:37):
And last us the two thousand children or those from
the Gadsen strip.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Absolutely from the gads will to change your mind? That's
from the Gasen strip, the two thousand Are you willing
to change your mind? If you hear the Egyptian and
the Arab plan end of the month, if they present
you something different, are you over pan? We sort of
have gone down the line.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
We know pretty much what is going to be presented,
and I think it's going to be something that's going
to be magnificent for the Palestinians. They're going to they're
going to be in love with it. I did very
well with real estate. I can tell you about real estate.
They're going to be in love with it.

Speaker 23 (48:11):
That it doesn't concern you that that moving two million
people from this very small number.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Of people relative to other things that have taken place
over the decades and centuries. It's a very small number
of people, and they're living a terrible life.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Look at look at the way they're living now.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Nobody's living like that in the entire world. They're living
under buildings that are mostly fallen down and will continue
to fall down, and they're living under people are being
killed every day. The conditions are horrible. There are no
conditions anywhere in the world that are worse than the
Gaza strip right now.

Speaker 9 (48:49):
But don't I you can do all And you said
all hell will break out if all the hostages are
not released on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
What did you mean by that? And are you encouraging
Nan Young to walk away from this?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Dealt this?

Speaker 4 (49:01):
So I've looked at what at the condition of people
coming out of the hostage.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Situation, and it's horrible.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I looked at the before and after yesterday, three young men.
One is dead now, as you know, the older gentleman
who died, which everybody said he.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Was alive, and well he's dead. But the three young.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Men, and I looked at them from a short while ago,
and I looked at them now, they're emaciated.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
They look like Holocaust survivors. They looked. I mean, they'll
get better, but they they're in rough shade.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
They were treated really badly, and we've heard things from
them since.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
And I think the reason that.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Hamas is playing so cute is because they probably they
they saw the reaction to these three people that came out.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
And and the other words.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Look, the one young lady had her hand blown off practically,
and they were not in great shape either, but she's
missing her fingers and.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
A big part of her hand. You know what she did,
she was stopping a bullet that was aimed at her.
She went like that that it blew off her hand.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Now I think what they're I think they want time
because I think the people that they have living are
in such bad shape because they're sending the most healthy
people out because they don't want to send the least
healthy people out. And there was an upthrow when they
saw the people from yesterday. So these people are so
I don't want to do two and then we do

(50:35):
another two in another week, and then we do four
and three weeks. Now they either have them out by
Saturday at twelve o'clock or all bets are off.

Speaker 13 (50:46):
President, President, or would you still consider withholding age of those.

Speaker 24 (50:50):
Countries if they don't accept your plans to accept it?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Well, I don't want to say.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
That, because we've had such a good relationship and we're
doing so well just in the short time that we've
been talking.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I mean, the king just made a statement.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I didn't ask him to do that, about literally saving
two thousand young children from the Gaza Strip.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
We didn't know about that. You didn't know about that.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Nobody did except for the king and his son. I
assume you told your son right, and I just thought
it was great.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Now I think we'll do something. I don't have to
threaten with money. We do.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
We contribute a lot of money to Jordan and to Egypt,
by the way, a lot to both.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
But I don't have to threaten that. I don't think.
I think we're above that. I do believe we're above that.
Would you consider other countries not Jordan and Egypt?

Speaker 24 (51:41):
There was talks about Indonesia, Albania, other places.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Sure, And we have other countries that want to get involved.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
We have a lot of people that want to get involved.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
There's a great sense of wanting to help the Palestinians.
There's a lot of good countries out there, people that
rule those countries with big hearts, and this gentleman is
at the top of the list.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
And if they don't want to leave, how are you
going to force mister President. Oh, they're going to be great,
They're going to be very happy.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Can you imagine your imagency?

Speaker 11 (52:12):
Should we expect that that your response would be part
of a coordinated Arab response.

Speaker 22 (52:18):
The response will be from a multitude of countries, Arab International.
I know the Europeans want to step in, and again
we'll probably have to look to the Health of the
United States to make sure that COGAD, which is the
clearing agency on the Israeli side, makes it.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
As efficient as possible, because two.

Speaker 22 (52:36):
Thousand kids, the best way to get to them is
by helicopters and get them.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Straight to our institutions.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
I also believe that quite a few countries.

Speaker 22 (52:43):
Would also probably like to take some of those kids
that hasn't treated in their hospitals.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So sapp yes, and that's right.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
They should have been done by the Biden administration. But
you know, they didn't do anything. They didn't know what
the hell they were doing, so they should have been
done by the Biden administration. This should have never happened
because October seventh would have never happened if I were president,
zero chances of happening. You wouldn't have had that whole
mess where the Middle East got blown up, and you
wouldn't have had Ukraine and Russia fighting. That would have

(53:12):
never happened. And by the way, we're making good progress there.
I think, I really think we're making some very good progress.

Speaker 20 (53:20):
You've said before that the US would buy Gaza, and
today you just said.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
We're not going to buy Gadza're not gonna have to buy.
We're going to have Gaza. We don't have to buy.
There's nothing to buy. We will have Gaza. That no
reason to buy. There is nothing to buy. It's Gaza.
It's a war torn area. We're gonna take it. We're
going to hold it, we're gonna cherish it. We're going
to get it going eventually where a lot of jobs

(53:48):
are going to be created for.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
The people in the Middle East. It's it's going to
be for the people in the Middle East. But I
think it can be a diamond.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
It could be an absolute tremendous asset for the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
And you're gonna have peace. It's gonna bring peace in
the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Gaza the way it is right now, every ten years,
you're gonna have the same thing happening. I've watched it
so long, all the death and destruction of Gaza. The
civilization has been wiped out in Gaza. Now it's going
to be a tremendous things. It's fronting on the sea.
It's going to be a great economic development job.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
It's going to put people to work, a lot of
people to work, and those people are all going to
be from the Middle East. And he's used.

Speaker 16 (54:28):
To follow up with one on that for King of Dullah,
can you clarify against or how do you feel.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
About the US taking Gaza? As the President said.

Speaker 22 (54:36):
Well, again, this is something that we as Adams will
be coming to the United States with something that we're
going to talk about later to discuss all these options to.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Take it after one authority.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
It is sovereignty under the US, mister President, think you
see to personally develop property in Gaza after this, You know, I've.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Had a great career in real estate. I don't know,
you know, when you've done what I've done in the
last number of years, including the four years that we
should have been doing something else. Frankly because people see
that now for sure.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
But when you've done what I've done, you can just
do more good for people when you're president.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
When you're president, we can do things. This is all things.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
That should have been done, but actually things that shouldn't
have had to be done.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Gaza.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Absolutely, it would have been so great if the Biden
administration would have started this, But actually, in all fairness
to them, it was they should.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Have never let it happen. It did happen.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And because of the fact that they let this happen,
this catastrophe of October seventh, something like this becomes practical
and very real, meaning the development and all of the
things that I've talked about with respect to the Gaza strip.
If you didn't have the October seventh catastrophe, it was
a horrible catastrophe, then probably you wouldn't be talking about that.

(56:04):
But the only thing I can say is this is
going to bring stability and peace to the Middle East,
and ultimately when.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
It's developed, which will be in quite a while from now,
because we want to let things calm down. But when
it's developed, it's going to bring tremendous numbers of jobs
to the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
And including the people of your country.

Speaker 25 (56:26):
It does not bring peace to the Middle East. There
are many Palestinians. Even though you say that everything is
going to beautiful, everything is going to be lovely, they're
not going to want to go back. There are going
to be people who want to go back and feel
like that it is their right to do that. You
have to said, well, there will be any type of
repercussions or anything that happen.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
We don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
We think it's going to We think people are going
to be very happy, thrilled. A lot of those people
that you're talking about are going to end up maybe
living there and maybe working there, but it'll be in
a different form. We have had tremendous support for this
project and we think the biggest asset of the project
it's going to bring peace ultimately to the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Question head behind and you, mister president, one of your
promises on that temping trade is to bring peace to
them East. It was a promise to your voter, Arab
voters here, the Arab voters in the United States oppose this.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
What do you say to that, Well, you know, if
you look at Michigan, where we have a large Arab population.
As you know, I was just telling the king that
we won. As you know, I won the Arab population.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
And when I started off, I wasn't leading. When they finished.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
A few months later, we started campaigning in Michigan and
when I finished, we wanted by a tremendous amount, by
thirty points. So my relationship with the Arab population has
been fantastic. And my relationship with the Middle East is
very good, very good.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
With all the countries. Just about all the countries.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Let's see, I would say all the countries, and they
all want to do something and they want to see
peace in the Middle East. So all the stories you
hear about the Middle East not really wanting peace, that
they want war, they want this, they want to go
to a certain place.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Let me tell you those stories are false. They want
to have peace. I know them all very well. They
want to have peace, they want to have a good
life like other people.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
And we'll bring this will be a big factor in
bringing peace to the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Thank you very much, every.

Speaker 24 (58:35):
Guys this way, Thank you different, So what's the plan somebody, anybody,
but you were watching President Trauma sit alongside the King

(58:55):
of Jordan, King Abdullah of Jordan.

Speaker 18 (58:57):
They just held a little news conference answering the number
of question, specifically questions about what President Trump plans to
do with Gaza and resettling the Gaza and Palestinian people. Well,
of course, have more coverage of that. But now let's
get you back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
This has been a live special report. We now join
our programming already in progress.

Speaker 13 (59:17):
Back and USAID then allocates it to their choosing. And
I'm asking for a specific reason, meaning was USAD he said, hey,
here's two billion for this, five hundred million for this,
or has Congress specifically said we want to have these
outrageous projects.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Most of the.

Speaker 15 (59:34):
Time, money is allocated, and USID will get a certain
amount of millions or billions of dollars.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
For all of the projects.

Speaker 15 (59:41):
The individual projects are typically decided by the people who
work over there.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
But that's why you.

Speaker 15 (59:46):
Have to fumigate the place and why I think Rubio
is doing a good job of letting most of these
people go. Most of them are left wing people promoting
an agenda. So there is a need for US a
state department. It's a part of our government. It should
promote peace diplomacy discussions.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
But climate change.

Speaker 15 (01:00:06):
Girl centric, climate change influencers trans operas have nothing to
do with peace or diplomacy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
They have to do with the left wing agenda.

Speaker 15 (01:00:14):
So really changing the dollars and reducing the dollars is one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Way to go at it. We also need to get.

Speaker 15 (01:00:19):
Rid of the people, so I'm completely behind the Trump administration.
Fumigate the place, clean them out, get rid of these
people who aren't really there for diplomacy, but they're there
for their left wing agenda. But you're right that a
lot of the money isn't specified necessarily when Congress passes bill.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
But it's a lot of money.

Speaker 15 (01:00:37):
We spend about forty billion dollars on foreign aid, which
is mostly usaid, but then it's divided down into these
crazy grants. And that's why the more we know about
the granular detail of how awful these grants are, the
more inflamed the American public will be, and more they
be behind us and trying to reduce suspending over them.

Speaker 13 (01:01:00):
Just to remind everyone, one point five million dollars for
advancing DEI in Serbia, two million dollars for sex changes
in Guatemala, six million for tourism in Egypt, hundreds of
thousands for meals that went to al Qaeda affiliated fighters
in Seria.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
We are feeding our enemies. Senator.

Speaker 13 (01:01:16):
One of the more outrageous critiques that those of us
that want to see USAIDEA eliminated or even projects like
this or DOGE will receive is, oh, that's only one
hundred million bucks, that's only two hundred and fifty million dollars.
That's only a couple billion dollars. What is your response
to the where they try to diminish or they try

(01:01:37):
to downplay the significance of these cuts.

Speaker 15 (01:01:42):
Well, you know it's an invalid argument because I can
tell you that for anything you object to, anything you
object to in government, I can say, well, that's not
enough to balance the budget.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
But it all does add up.

Speaker 15 (01:01:52):
But even if it all added up to an amount
that was only five percent of spending and it wasn't
going to balance the budget, why wouldn't we be for
as the worst and most egregious and outrageous spending that
is out there. I mean, we found hundreds of thousands
of dollars being spent to study whether lonely rats use
more cocaine than well socialized rats.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
So that kind of stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:02:16):
When you tell the American people is being spent, their outraged,
and rightly so. But we have to reduce the overall
spending and will balance the budget.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
It's a tip of the spear.

Speaker 15 (01:02:26):
Why not start with the most egregious stuff and keep going.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
It's sort of like immigration.

Speaker 15 (01:02:31):
We should end illegal immigration, the people who came illegally
should go home, but we should definitely start with the
most violent.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
And that's not the entire problem.

Speaker 15 (01:02:39):
But I think almost everybody agrees we should start with
the most violent people. And I think that's one of
the things we're doing a pretty good job, or the
Trump administration is doing a good job of getting rid
of the violent people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I totally agree.

Speaker 13 (01:02:51):
So, Senator tell us about your hearing tomorrow, what we
can expect, and more broadly, how Congress can buttress up
again and the incredibly important work of doze right now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
So what we're going to do is it'll be a showcase.

Speaker 15 (01:03:06):
It'll be a showcase for not only what we've found
over the last ten years from our Festivus or our
waste Report, Our grievance is about spending.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Also, what doze is finding what others.

Speaker 15 (01:03:16):
Are finding, And we will have people testify to that,
and I'm sure the Democrats will bring someone to testify
why we need to continue all this aid.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
My point is, even when you get beyond.

Speaker 15 (01:03:28):
The outrageous stuff, you know, the parades, the pride parades
and all the other kind of stuff they're doing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Even when you get beyond that, there is a question.

Speaker 15 (01:03:38):
Even if it's something valid, like something that we're doing
that is people would say, oh, that's charitable.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Should you do that with borrowed money?

Speaker 15 (01:03:46):
And the example I give is if you make twenty
five thousand dollars a year and you have just enough
money for rent and to pay for your family or
for yourself, it's not that much money.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
Would you, when you.

Speaker 15 (01:03:55):
Pass a homeless person, go into the first bank and
borrow a thousand dollars a year give it to a
homeless person.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
No, that's not the way people operate.

Speaker 15 (01:04:03):
You have to take care of you and your family first,
and you don't go into debt to help people through charity.
Charity comes out of your what you have left over
what you can save in order to give for charity.
But the government shouldn't be any different. We shouldn't be
borrowing money. We essentially are borrowing all the money we
send to Ukraine, not just charitable money to Ukraine, but
all the military. Everything we send over there is borrowed.

(01:04:26):
We borrow it from China to send it to Ukraine.
Then everybody complains, what about China. How are we going
to be strong to stand up to China.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
It's like, well, maybe we could quit borrowing.

Speaker 15 (01:04:36):
From China to pay Ukraine and to send USAID dollars
all over the world. So, yeah, this is the Trump administration.
You're doing a great job bringing is ahead. Our committee
is going to try to shine a light on it
and then we will come up with legislative proposals.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
Ultimately, what they're doing at.

Speaker 15 (01:04:52):
USID is USAID is going to require Congress to rescind
that money. So my hope is they send half of
it back or most of it back to us and
say we're not going to spend it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
But then Congress, to.

Speaker 15 (01:05:05):
Make this all lawful and legal, is going to have
to vote on what's called a recision package. But the
good news is it can be done by simple majority
privileged vote, meaning there's no filibuster. So if the Trump
administration says we're only going to spend half of the
USAID money, are we're only going to spend a tenth
of it, We're going to give you eighty ninety percent
back a simple majority, which we mean only Republicans in

(01:05:27):
the Senate and the House can rescind that money and
we can start saving it. So people need to realize
this isn't the end of the deal.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Dose is the beginning.

Speaker 15 (01:05:37):
Congress has to act, and you have a lot of
feckless Republicans up here who, if you watch closely, love Usaid,
love all the welfare, love all the burnad and so
we have a big fight on our hands.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
And the people who watch.

Speaker 15 (01:05:51):
Your show need to realize they need to watch like
a hawk they're Republican representatives and make sure they will
actually vote to cut this spending when it comes.

Speaker 13 (01:06:02):
This is so important, and Senator, we could not be
more behind you that the same way that we did
full throttle pressure on Bobby Kennedy for HHS, or Tulci
Gabbard for DNI, or Pete Hegseth for DoD.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
We need full throttle pressure.

Speaker 13 (01:06:16):
If there's going to be Republicans that are getting in
the way of recision of USAID, understand that USAID right
now that President Trump, Elon Musk and the entire great
team is going after right now is a bipartisan project
for the last thirty years. Yes, it is easy to
just blame you know, Democrats right now, but it has

(01:06:38):
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Speaker 13 (01:08:00):
Okay, we continue, a Senator un Paul, Senator, we only
have a minute before we welcome back our radio audience.
But I want to ask you just kind of a fun,
lighthearted question. I have been trying to push for your father,
Ron Paul to be Chairman of the Federal Reserve. You
don't have to necessarily comment on that, but can you
talk about the need.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
For better leadership at the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Absolutely, he'd be great.

Speaker 15 (01:08:22):
One of the great memes they had on the internet
the other day was a picture of Elon Musk saying,
Ron Paul, we need you back, We need you back
here to help.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Us with this.

Speaker 15 (01:08:31):
And it had a picture my father sort of looking
like he wasn't interested. And then it had Elon must saying,
we want you to be in charge.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
Of, you know, auditing the Fed.

Speaker 15 (01:08:40):
And then it had a picture of my dad on
a bicycle speeding back to Washington. And No, he'd love
nothing more to be part of auditing the Fed. He's
talked about it, you know, for fifty years now and
it's still as necessary as it ever once was.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
And No, he'd be a great to be part of this.

Speaker 15 (01:08:58):
And I love the fact that they've been talking about
and listening to some of the things he has to
say about Doze as well.

Speaker 13 (01:09:07):
And what an honorable, consistent warrior for liberty your father
has been. And what a great kind of end to
a career to be chairman of the Federal Reserve. Let's see,
I'll put a maybe on it. Stay right there, Welcome

(01:09:29):
back to everybody. Email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot
com and subscribe to our podcast. And it was Tom
petty if I'm not mistaken. So Senator ran Paul continues
with us. So Senator I want to now ask oh
Senator left. Okay, well then let's all right. Okay, sorry, Senator,

(01:09:50):
we only have a couple more minutes. I promise. Sorry
for the back and forth. So Senator finally here, there's
been some talk about judicial overreach that would justify ignoring
a federal court. Do you have any thought on that,
on the tension between the two branches of government and
specifically what's happening with DOGE and DOGE having access to information.

Speaker 15 (01:10:10):
You know, I think it's kind of crazy some of
the left that has gone after some of these young
men that are helping Doge.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
One of the young men won an award.

Speaker 15 (01:10:19):
At the University of Nebraska for some amazing research.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
They had these scrolls I think they were from Israel
for maybe when the Romans invaded in.

Speaker 15 (01:10:27):
Sixty eight a d two thousand year old scrolls that
were burned and they couldn't be read or unraveled or
they'd fall apart. And this young man at Computer Science
Guide looked at MRIs and applied artificial intelligence to it
and was actually able to read the interior of the
scrolls without unrolling them, and this amazing genius. We should

(01:10:48):
be lauding him and applauding him for.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Helping DOSEE to reduce spending.

Speaker 15 (01:10:54):
Problems, and yet the Left is dosing him and trying
to get him attacked.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
I think it's despicable.

Speaker 13 (01:11:01):
No, I completely agree, senator. Last question here, and thank
you for being generous with your time. I've been pushing
for a while, and you've been pushing for even longer
than I have, for the pardon commutation of Ross Olbrich.
I know that you mentioned this to the President when
you saw him recently. Any comments on President Trump's pardon
of Ross Olbrick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
You know, we were.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Really excited about it.

Speaker 15 (01:11:21):
I spoke with President and his first administration about it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
I met with Ross's mom.

Speaker 15 (01:11:27):
We've talked about it, and it became kind of a
libertarian cause because he was involved with something that was illegal,
a website that had.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
People trading drugs on it.

Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
But he was given two life sentences, and so I
think the crime should be the punishment should be proportional
to the crime. In this case, it was extremely disproportionate,
and so we were glad that the President granted the pardon.
He's still a relatively young man, but he spent eleven
twelve years in prison, and it'd be great for him
to get out and be a productive member of society again.

(01:11:59):
I think this long way towards libertarians who had a
choice of voting for a third party or voting for Trump,
and Trump was, you know, honest.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
And to his word did pardon him. I think it
was a good thing.

Speaker 13 (01:12:13):
Senator, Thank you so much. We look forward to hearing Thursday.
Thank you for your leadership. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:12:21):
Email us as always Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com
and subscribe to our podcast. I mean Ron Paul being
chairman of Federal Reserve would be a game changer. Having
Ron Paul to be able to audit the Federal Reserve,
that would be something else. We'll do a whole show
on the Fed and explaining the Federal Reserve at in
a future date. Let's just go through some of the

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waste here of what usaid does.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
It's worse than you realize.

Speaker 13 (01:12:47):
Seven point nine million dollars to teach Sri Lankan journalists
how to avoid binary gendered language twenty million dollars for
a new Sesame Street show interact.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Can we get a copy of that? I am a
US taxpayer?

Speaker 13 (01:13:03):
Can I get a copy of the Sesame Street I
want to see it. I want to understand the quality
of production. Twenty million dollars for a new Sesame Street show.
You better believe that's some sort of Hollywood racket like
reverse money laundering. Let's go hire some Hollywood company to
go do a Raki.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Sesame.

Speaker 13 (01:13:24):
Let's go to Kurdish Sesame Street and we have Sunni Elmo.
Four point five million dollars to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan.
One point five million dollars for the art of Inclusion
of people with disabilities, two million dollars for sex changes

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in Guatemala. Six million dollars to transform digital spaces to
reflect feminist democratic principles. Two point one million dollars to
help the BBC to value the diversity of Libbeian society.
Two point five million dollars to promote inclusion in Vietnam.

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Sixteen point eight million dollars for Separate Inclusion Group in Vietnam.
Five million dollars to the EcoHealth Alliance, one of the
key NGOs that funded bat virus research at the Wuhan
Institute of Virology, twenty million dollars for a group related
to a key player in the Russia Gate impeachment hoax.

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One point one million dollars to the oldest Christian country
in the world, Armenia to fund an LGBT group. One
point two million dollars to help the African Methodist Episcopal
Church Service and Development Agency in DC to build a
four hundred and forty seat auditorium, one point three million

(01:14:51):
dollars to Arab and Jewish photographers, and one point five
million dollars to promote gay advocacy in Jamaica. We the
people check our visa bills every month. Why can't our
government check their invoices? It's our money. We'll be right back.

Speaker 18 (01:15:17):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. The Department of Government Efficiencies audit of us
AID led to the agency being virtually shuttered. It also
opened the door to more reporting on how the agency
has been spinning your tax dollars. Here's what our colleague
John Solomon's reporting has turned up.

Speaker 26 (01:15:37):
In the last couple of days, we interviewed a former
whistleblower at USAID. He ran one of the largest divisions
inside USAID, and he said, listen, here's the dirty secret.
The money is predominantly being routed through organizations that will
benefit Democrats. It became a political beneficiary and benefactor for
the Democratic Party rather than a benefactor for the American

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taxpayer in our foreign policy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
That's the dirty secret.

Speaker 18 (01:16:03):
Solomon goes on to describe the agency as a Democrat piggybank,
not a piggy bank designed to further foreign national interests
for the United States. Well, it's a new day and
more rests are on the horizon for President Trump's mass
deportation efforts. Now, Homeland Security Secretary Christy nom is looking
to deputize IRS agents to help round up illegal immigrants

(01:16:26):
and ship them back across the border. In a letter
to the Treasury Department, which oversees the IRS, Nome says
that President Trump has directed her to quote take all
appropriate action to supplement available personnel to secure the southern
border and enforce the immigration laws of the United States.
That includes deputizing employees from other agencies to join the effort.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Quote.

Speaker 18 (01:16:48):
It is DHS's understanding that the Department of Treasury has
qualified law Enforcement personnel available to assist with immigration enforcement,
especially in light of recent increases to the Internal Revenue
Service workforce and budget. IRS agents would likely be tasked
with serving alongside ICE agents to build cases around tax crimes, immigration.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
And money laundering charges.

Speaker 18 (01:17:11):
The Elon must led Department of Government Efficiencies getting legal
pushback as it continues to look into fraud, waste, and
abuse in government agencies. The latest challenge is a lawsuit
filed by a coalition of labor unions on Monday asking
a federal court to stop Musk and his team from
accessing private data at the Department of Education, the Treasury Department,
as well as the Office of Personnel Management. Among the

(01:17:34):
personal data allegedly being compromised is housing information for more
than forty million federal student loan recipients.

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That's a great check off your headlines.

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conservatives for lower healthcare costs. I think our next guest
has the order the honor being our first cabinet official
of this new Trump administration. On the program, Secretary of

(01:19:55):
Housing and Urban Development, Scott Turner. Great to see and
welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
Hey, thank you, Charlie. It's great to see you.

Speaker 13 (01:20:04):
Thank you for having me first, it's great to meet
you over the video. I know we shook hands briefly
during the inauguration. Secretary, you have an incredible story. Why
don't you introduce your biography to the American people and
to our audience.

Speaker 27 (01:20:20):
Well, thank you so much, and first, you know, I'm
happy to be with you again, and thank you for
all of your friendship and support to my dear friend
and mentor, doctor Ben Carson.

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
You and your team have been wonderful.

Speaker 27 (01:20:31):
To him, and so I appreciate you. You know, Charlie,
I'm from Dallas, Texas, grew up there. I'm a product
that came from a broken home. My mom and dad,
who I love so much, they were divorced when I
was a young boy, and you know, the stats would say,
you know that the odds were against me, you know,
coming from a broken home, being you know, in that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Type of situation.

Speaker 27 (01:20:53):
But I was so blessed, you know, about the Lord
to be able to graduate from the University of Illinois,
to be drafted in the National Football League, and play
nine seasons for the Redskins, the Charters, and the Broncos,
and then to serve in the Texas House there in
District thirty three in northeast Collins County in Rockwall County.
And then after that, Charlie, you know, I was an

(01:21:15):
honor to work with doctor Carson and his team to
lead the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council, which is
dealt primarily with the opportunities on policy in the first
Trump administration. So I'm grateful to the President for that
opportunity and now here, you know, back again to serve
the American people. My wife, Robin and I are so
honored and humbled to be able to be here and

(01:21:38):
be a servant leader of HUD and work with this
incredible team to serve the most vulnerable in our country
as it pertains the housing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
So I'm honored to be here, Charlie.

Speaker 27 (01:21:48):
I'm so grateful and I thank God, you know, for
what He's done in my life and his grace and
mercy to bring me to this point.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I love that story.

Speaker 13 (01:21:58):
Thank you for that, and as always is invoking the
Lord in all that you do. You are off to
a very quick start. Tell us about it. You offered
and ordered a secretarial order to directing HUD to halt
all payment and further enforcement to HUD's twenty sixteen rule
entitled Equal Access and Accordance with an Individual's gender identity.
Tell us about this monumental order that you issued.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Well, chaal, you know we do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
We want to uphold you know one.

Speaker 27 (01:22:25):
First, you know what the Bible says about you know,
the sexes that's mail and female. And also with President
Trump's leadership, you know, and really nailing down from a
government standpoint, you know, there's two sexes, mail and female.
And so when you have HUD funded shelters, for instance,
when you have a shelter that is for women, we

(01:22:46):
want to make sure that those shelters, the leadership of
those shelters can properly identify the people coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
So those shelters.

Speaker 27 (01:22:53):
Men should not be entering into a woman only shelter,
and transgender should not. Women should not be able to
enter into a women only shelter. A lot of times
women that are in these situations are there because they
have experienced very difficult situations like domestic violence, which I
know about, I've seen and I understand. And and so we

(01:23:14):
want to protect the ladies of our country that are
in these situations, that are in these shelters and know
that they're in a safe place to where they can
receive help and need in very difficult times. And so
we're very not just proud, but we're very strongly support
of tearing down the equal access rule and protecting the

(01:23:34):
ladies that are in these women only shelters and beyond.

Speaker 13 (01:23:39):
You have said repeatedly that HUD has failed at its
mission of serving the most vulnerable internation in the name
of far left gender ideology.

Speaker 10 (01:23:48):
Explain that further place.

Speaker 27 (01:23:50):
Well, you know, just in the first week, you know,
after we took down the equal access rule, you know,
the people on the left, the liberals on the left,
they came after my inswer and they took my Instagram down.
It's up again, you know, because we're going to continue
this work. It's not about politics for us, it's about policy,
and it's about people and HUD regardless of record funding

(01:24:13):
for housing, affordability, for homelessness, regardless of record funding, we
are not serving. I have not been up to this
point serving the amount of people that we've been called
to servers. So that's why we're here, you know, to
make sure that we're maximizing the resources and maximizing the
budget here at HUD and all of our personnel, all

(01:24:33):
of our team members for this commission that we've been
called to to serve the people of this country. And
so we are laser focused on this, Charlie, to get
everybody on one sound, one team, one voice, moving taken
inventory at HUD to make sure the programs that we
have here are doing exactly what they're supposed to do,
and the ones that aren't doing that, then you know

(01:24:55):
what we need to get rid of those programs here.
Just recently, working with those and the team at HUB,
we have found two hundred and sixty million dollars in
savings on contracts alone. You know, so with Presidents Trump's
leadership and finding all the ways fraud and abuse and straight,

(01:25:17):
two hundred and sixty million dollars in savings already and
and and to soon find more so that we're good
stores over tax perier of dollars.

Speaker 10 (01:25:26):
I mean, that's extraordinary.

Speaker 13 (01:25:27):
Let me just reiterate that you've been there for a
week and you already found two hundred and sixty million dollars.
I mean, you're off to such a quick start where
it could be in the billions. And just everyone understands
HUD's budget is sixty billion dollars a year. That's significant.
That's a lot of money, everybody sixty billion a year.
So if you save five or six billion, that's ten
percent cost savings. If you then extrapolate that across the

(01:25:50):
entire federal government, and you know, silence, these critics, Oh,
it's only a billion, It's only that whole on. If
every agency does their part for ten percent, if every
agency does their part, then we go from a one
point three trillion dollar deficit down to under a trillion.
I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars
that we could save. A billion here and a billion

(01:26:10):
there is serious money, isn't it, mister Secretary?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
It is?

Speaker 27 (01:26:14):
And you know, thank you for putting that together because
that makes it real. And you know, we have a
tremendous team here at HUD, and we're serious about being
faithful stewards over taxpayer dollars. You know, the American people
work very hard to pay taxes and to support the services.
And I'm speaking from a HOD standpoint, and so you know,

(01:26:36):
our entire team, you know, we're very serious about being
good servant leaders. And just like we manage our own
personal finances, you.

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
Know, we want to make sure that we continue.

Speaker 27 (01:26:46):
To identify, you know, savings at HUDs so that we
can serve the people that we've been called to serve.

Speaker 13 (01:26:54):
So a mister Secretary, I want to dive deeper into
one of the other elements here, a F F H
what is AFFH and why should our audience be aware
of it?

Speaker 27 (01:27:04):
So AFFH was an Obama era rule, really Charlie in
from a thirty thousand foot view. It re engineers neighborhoods
and localities and states. So if a locality is receiving
HUD funding, it has to apply to the rules and
regulations from FFH, which it makes it harder for localities

(01:27:26):
to build. It makes it harder to build single family homes.
It's cumbersome, it's burdensome, it's bureaucratic. Both people on the
left and on the right don't like it, even if
they don't say they don't, because it makes it very,
very hard. And so Director Russ Vote and I Director
Vote from the OMB and myself, according to the President's leadership,

(01:27:48):
we are going after AFFH to restore the power, the flexibility,
the rule making authority back to localities, back to states
because they understand their needs, understand the needs they have
in their local neighborhoods, and so the federal government should
not be heavy handed mandating how people's zone or how

(01:28:09):
people build in different localities. Texas is different from Florida.
Florida's different from Ohio, and Indiana and so on and
so forth, and so we're going after AFFH to restore
the power back to the States under the President's leadership
of working with Director Vote. So we're very excited about this.
We want to restore the American dream to the suburban

(01:28:30):
neighborhoods of America, you know, to build single family homes
so that people can be on a pathway to home ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
And when you have these.

Speaker 27 (01:28:38):
Burdensome and regulatory policies and makes it that much harder
to do. So, so thank you for bringing it up, Charlie,
because we're very excited about going out to AFFH.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:28:51):
So finally, I want you to capture the imagination of
our audience. Opportunity zones, beautiful new cities, talk about the
positive stuff, not just cutting the waste guttings happen. But
capture the imagination of our audience. What is the vision
for HUD and what you want to deliver for the
American people when it comes to something as fundamental as housing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Right, So when you.

Speaker 27 (01:29:11):
Look at HUD, you know HUD's mission is to serve
you know, low tomorrow and the very low income people
in our country. As it pertains the house and housing
affordability right now is.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
At all time high.

Speaker 27 (01:29:24):
People cannot afford to buy house and homelessness. According to
the latest report that was put out in December, you know,
hundreds of thousands, over seven hundred thousand people in our
country homeless on a single night in January of twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Disaster recovery.

Speaker 27 (01:29:39):
These are kind of the three top line missions of
HUD and so we want to come in and take inventory,
take an assessment of all of these programs. See are
we serving the people that we've been called to serving.
If we are not, how can we do better? How
can we better position ourselves to decrease and eradicate homelessness,
including better homelessness, including family homelessness. How can we bring

(01:30:03):
down the costs of home affordability and bring up the
supply and restore you know, local control and working with
localities to build affordable and workforce house And how do
we help those who have been hit by natural disasters
around our country to rebuild their families, to restore their
businesses And so what LASER focused on that? And so

(01:30:24):
for the people who are listening to this time we
have together, Charlie, I hope that they will understand that
here at HUD, our heart is for the American people.
Our mission is to help the American people not to
stay on government subsidies, but to get off of government
subsidies and fulfill their American dream and fulfill their God
given potential and get on the way to self sustainability

(01:30:46):
and not just survive in America, but to thrive in America.
And so myself and our entire team here at HUD,
that is our heart. That's the heartbeat, and that's what
we're going to do in the days ahead. And I'm
looking so much forward to an our Thank the President
for his leadership and giving me this opportunity and our
team this opportunity to lead hood.

Speaker 13 (01:31:08):
Mister Secretary, we are behind you one hundred percent. Thank
you for your energy and your commitments to the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
And good luck. We have your back. Thank you, Thank you, John,
God bless you. Brother.

Speaker 10 (01:31:18):
Excellent. That's that's so refreshing.

Speaker 13 (01:31:20):
I love the love, the spark and the love of
country and the patriotism.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
It's just awesome.

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a phenomenal appearance by a good friend of mine, the

(01:34:14):
Vice President of the United States. Boy, that feels good
to say, the vice President of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
It's surreal. I gotta tell you.

Speaker 13 (01:34:21):
I was sitting right here in this chair when it
was citizen in Vance, and he would just come on
the show, and he used to give us as much
time as we asked for. Hey, JD, can you come
on the show and give us an hour and a half?

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (01:34:34):
Can you talk about these nine topics? Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
And you talk about everything.

Speaker 13 (01:34:39):
Well, Now, JD has a lot more important things to
do than come on the Charlie Kirk Show. But we
remain one hundred percent behind him, and of course, most
importantly behind the President's agenda and behind the country. Jadie
Vance is a rockstar. I we on this program. I'll
say we, because it was a team effort. We are vindicated.

(01:34:59):
We got so much backlash. I won't let this one go.
Oh the amount of nasty grams I got from some
people in the audience and from donors. We lost money
over for both promoting Jade Vance in the Senate primary
and then of course in the vice presidential contest. The
President deserves such unbelievable credit for making that choice.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
It was incredible.

Speaker 13 (01:35:19):
Jd Vance right now is in Paris for a major
AI summit, major artificial intelligence summit, and he just has
this gravitas to him. Jade Vance has become a hero
and an icon what we have always hoped that he
would become. This is in front of the entire planet,
and he had dinner with mccrown last night. Jade Vance

(01:35:40):
is dealing at the highest possible level. In my opinion,
represented the country so incredibly well, much better than Kamala Harris.
Oh what a change is jd Vance articulating the moral
case of how we approach artificial intelligence. We will embrace
this technology with caution. I don't understand that human beings
come first. It's a pow positive, bold agenda, courageous and

(01:36:03):
crisply delivered play cut eighty seven.

Speaker 20 (01:36:07):
This administration wants to be very clear about.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
One last point.

Speaker 20 (01:36:10):
We will always center American workers in our AI policy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
We refuse to view AI as.

Speaker 20 (01:36:17):
A purely disruptive technology that will inevitably automate away our
labor force. We believe and we will fight for policies
that ensure that AI is going to make our workers
more productive, and we expect that they will reap the
rewards with higher wages, better benefits, and safer and more
prosperous communities.

Speaker 13 (01:36:38):
I could do a whole hour on this. In fact,
I might do this tomorrow. It's not about replacing, it's
about amplifying. It's not about substituting. It's about flourishing. That's
a different moral contract on some of the little gremlins
that are running around Silicon Valley talking about a hyper
robotic world. No, no, no, we have a obligation to the worker.

(01:37:04):
It's a contrast with the doom and globe. America is
the most innovative country in history, but our innovation has
always been to help ordinary people play cut seventy one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:37:13):
We've also watched as hostile foreign adversaries have weaponized AI
software to rewrite history, surveil users, and sensor speech. This
is hardly new, of course, as they do with other tech,
some authoritarian regimes have stolen and used AI to strengthen
their military, intelligence and surveillance capabilities.

Speaker 10 (01:37:36):
Capture foreign data and create.

Speaker 20 (01:37:38):
Propaganda to undermine other nations national security.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
I want to be clear, this.

Speaker 20 (01:37:44):
Administration will block such.

Speaker 10 (01:37:46):
Efforts full stop and finally cut ninety.

Speaker 20 (01:37:52):
I couldn't help but think of the conference today.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
If we choose the wrong approach on.

Speaker 20 (01:37:59):
Other things that could be conceived of as dangerous things
like AI, and.

Speaker 28 (01:38:03):
Choose to hold ourselves back, it will alter not only
our GDP or the stock market, but the very future
of the project that Lafayette and the American founders set
off to create.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Now, this doesn't mean.

Speaker 20 (01:38:16):
The course that all concerns about safety go out the window,
but focus matters, and we must focus now on the
opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle, unleash our most
brilliant innovators, and use AI to improve the well being
of our nations and their peoples.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Masterclass.

Speaker 13 (01:38:37):
We have been waiting for that kind of truck, that
very clear signal, a human first AI speech. That's what
a statesman looks like. Statesman for the United States of America.
Ten out of ten.

Speaker 23 (01:38:52):
JD.

Speaker 13 (01:38:53):
Very proud of you, mister Vice President. See you guys tomorrow.
Email me Freedam at Charlie Kirk dot com.

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