May 3, 2025 • 96 mins
Cowboy Logic | May 3, 2025; This week's Guests: Jason Goodman • A Very Special Guest • Shawn Farash • J6er / Actor Jay Johnston
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
The doll.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And and look at her and in.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And welcome to the cowboy logic everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
He's yes, nice beaver, Donna.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
You know they are actually the actual beavers that live
in the property behind us are just destroying this guy's property.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
There's like a fifteen acre lake.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
In the last couple of years they have they have,
you know, damned up the whole damn thing. And no
pun intended, those damn beavers, damp beavers.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, okay, we're doing.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Something different this week, guys and gals.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
Uh, Normally we do headlines and Ron and I do
everything we can to stay awake during Donna's headlines.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So mean to me.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're not gang up on.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
We don't gang up on you. We're very nice. We're loving.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Right, We've got a guess that Donna and I are
very excited about.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
And Donna has been trying to figure out.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
A way to get him on for last time we
had him on here was he has actually one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, he and Charles Ortel, I'm talking about Jason Goodman
and a gentleman named Charles Ortel have a Sunday with
Charles and it is a Sunday podcast broadcast that they've
been doing. I think we're going on eight or nine
years ago though, since we had the two of them
on together to talk about it. So let's bring Jason
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on right now, because Jason is doing great work.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Brother Jason, good well, thanks, Okay.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Now, Charles lives out of the country now, so with
the time difference, it's a problem. But the problem is
that Jason has found I should say, the solution that
Jason has found is just some great information on his
own in crowdsourcethtruth dot org is his website or you
can follow him there at jg Underscore c STT as
(02:53):
in crowdsource the Truth. Okay, what we need to tell
you about is years ago you guys talk about a
company called ran Backsey that we feel has basically morphed
into Remdesevir, which was used for COVID. But now Jason
has been doing some great stuff as far as child trafficking.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He's I mean, watching your stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
You go up to people who are obviously illegal holding
children right there in front of hotels in New York
City asking them is the child their child? I mean,
it's amazing stuff. And we'll get to that in a minute.
But the bigger stuff that you have found now is
what is going on with the mortgage fraud with so
many politicians and people behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So Jason, I mean, I have this book.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I actually watched a couple of your interviews, one that
you did with Roger Stone about a week and a
half ago, which was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I took notes. But there's so much changing so fast,
so I'm just going to let you have at it.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Let's start with Adam Schiff and the fact that he's
going against Ed Martin Eagle ed Martin in DC. And
there's a reason for that because Shifty Shift can't be
in two places at one time, can he.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well, they could put him in jail and then he'd
be in the one place that he needs to be.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
But I did notice that he.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Was trying to block the Senate confirmation of Adam Schiff,
and I found that very curious. Sorry of Ed Martin.
Schiff blocked the Senate confirmation of Ed Martin. And then
we started looking at Adam Shift's property records. You know,
I was really inspired to look into this after Sam
Antar and Joel Gilbert did their great research into the
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New York Attorney General Letitia James. And it's funny because
you know, you mentioned Charles, and he really has taught
me so much. I have no financial background whatsoever. I
was in Hollywood doing visual effects in three D movies,
and I've learned so much from the eight years of
working with Charles about nonprofit fraud and.
Speaker 9 (04:54):
Various things like that.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
So when I heard about this research that Sam had done,
I started looking at acres and I got into some
of this fraud information and started putting things out on
X and somebody emailed me and say, hey, look at this.
Adam Schiff has a mortgage problem. And it was sort
of a vague article. I mean, it was a good article,
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but it didn't go into the kind of detail that
we really needed to develop an indictment and eventually charge them.
So I started looking into some of the allegations in
the article, and luckily Maryland, where the property in question was,
does have an open records database. Some states and even
various counties within some states, don't allow public access to
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these records, but they really should, as I've been more
speaking to mortgage experts and things like that. Reason that
it's public information is that it's alone right.
Speaker 9 (05:52):
So it's a weird thing.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You feel like it should be private, But there's this
promissory note deal. People who know about mortgages will know
why it's public. But the point is you can go
right into this database and see when people refinance their
homes the amounts.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
In Adam Shift's case, he's declared.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
This Maryland home as his primary residence and he's been
doing that since two thousand and three, for seventeen years now.
In twenty twenty, he cured the defect by filing a
second home rider. But I think, I mean, look, I'm
not an attorney. It's important that your viewers realize everything
that I say here is my opinion. Nothing is legal advice.
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Whatever I say does not reflect on Donna and Donna.
But in my opinion, Adam Schiff was lying when he
did that, and it was this is evidence that he
knew that he was lying the whole entire time. This
is not some guy you know who's working at a
restaurant or producing a podcast. He's a lawyer and he's
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in Congress. He has to know how these things work.
And also so he didn't use a real estate attorney.
I'm sure you know any one of us go and
get a mortgage, you're going to bring an attorney.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
They're going to read the document.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
You have your real estate attorney who's involved in the
closing and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
But Adam Shift didn't do that, and he's not unique
in this.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I've begun to identify what I've called a lawfare network,
and initially I'm starting with members of Congress who just
coincidentally happened to be lawyers as well. I didn't seek
out congressional lawyers. It's just everybody who's doing this so
far is a lawyer. So one of the components is
they don't need a lawyer with them when they disagreement.
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And you know, if you had a lawyer, they might
tell you, hey, wait a minute, mister Shift, you're running
for Congress in California. You can't declare this as your
primary home because then you'll be disqualified from being a
congressional representative in California. But by eliminating that lawyer, Adam
Shift could just do whatever he wants.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Tell the lender, hey, I'm a lawyer, don't worry.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And basically what he's done is he's put himself into
a bind here because if he was being honest on
the loan application, on the mortgage agreement, well, then he's
committed fraud when he ran for Congress in California. And
if he was being honest when he applied to run
for Congress in California, then he's confirmed that he's committed
mortgage fraud on this document. Now, in twenty twenty, that's
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when some of these stories started coming out. I've just
learned this actually since the interview with Rogers on people
have been contacting me. There's new information coming out every day.
But it does seem that the second home Rider was
an effort by Adam Schiff to cure the defects in
the document in anticipation that people find anything out. But
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I think he's actually just given us more evidence of
what he's done.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
It's proof of a guilty conscience.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
Jason, let me ask you this, and we've only got
about two minutes. We're gonna have to go to the
first break with you, but we're going to have you, guys,
guys and gals. We're going to have him for the
whole hour. Jason, you mentioned a moment ago that if
he had a real estate lawyer, that the real estate
lawyer might go to the lender and go, hey, something's
not adding up here. Here's the thing. There's nobody in
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real estate that's selling property in Maryland or District of
Columbia or Northern Virginia that doesn't know who Adam Shift is.
So his his his real estate. You know, the the
lender knows what's going on. Have you started to follow
the money trail and the connection between Shift and the
lending agency that's doing this, knowing full well that Shift
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can't do this.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Underwriters should find this.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean, you know, just to be clear, I'm
not attempting to prosecute Adam Shift or you know, prove
beyond a reasonable doubt that he's committed crimes. What I'm
attempting to do is gather evidence sufficient to make an
indict and I'm conveying that evidence to get I believe
I get that.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
But what's the connection between Shifts and the lender? Because
when we get back from the break, we're going to
talk about some of the things also and you may
have covered this that's going on with regard to cartel
money and mortgages. Yeah, because if you follow that money
trail with Shift, you know, Shift doesn't want these uh,
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these illegals out of the country either.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Gee Sanders suddenly got a six hundred thousand dollars house
after he dropped out of the Reason twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
This has been going on for a long time, going
on for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
But you mentioned so many other people possibly that I mean,
and these are Rico statute violations too, So all this
is just insane. So all right, we're going to bring
you back after the break. Jason Goodman again at JG
underscore CSTT as in crowdsource the Truth or crowdsource Thetruth
dot org following flee.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You will not be disappointed that the more after that.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Jason Goodman Crowdsource Thetruth dot org and JG underscore c
STT as in crowdsource the Truth Again. He digs deep
in the weeds and he's done some great stuff. We're
talking people like Andrew Weizman, Norm eisen Tis, James, Jamie Raskin,
Adam Schiff. All these people seem to be using.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Everybody that wants to put Trump in prison. Yes, isn't
that weird? Ja, That's so weird.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So the thing is with Adam Schiff.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Now years ago he conspired with CIA director John Brennan
to overthrow the US government, in my opinion, in twenty sixteen.
Then he allegedly conspired with Mike Pampeo. James O'Keeffe of OMG,
of course, has brought a lot of this stuff out.
They framed General Flynn and George Papadopolis. Brennan, a lot
of people don't realize, converted to Islam when he was
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living in the Middle East, and he speaks fluent Arabic,
just so you know, But Donald J.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
John Brennan walks like he's such a superior human being.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I want to know if he's speaking to the rest
of us.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Honestly, with all this coming out, I want to know
if he's still in the United States.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That would be something to look into.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But the thing with Schiff, obviously, with what he's done
with Brennan, he can't let ed Martin get in there.
They don't actually have to confirm ed Martin's position, but
they're trying to make it so they have to because
obviously he's in cya mode. You have to have your
primary residence in California, where you're now a senator so
the statute of limitations, I'm assuming is now not over
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for these particular situations. And they always say that your
primary residence is most important because answers are you'll take
care of it a little better. So he had one
in Maryland, he had one in California.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Just give us a good day.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Wait a minute, did he have one primary residence in
Maryland and a primary residence in California?
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Nodo primary, It.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Was just a Maryland was the primary. We'd have to
look into that detail. I mean, it's an improper filing
on the second home in Maryland by declaring it as
a primary home. I don't think he also declared California
the primary home. It's just that created the conflict with
running for congress, right, and he tried to cure it
in twenty twenty, I think because these stories started.
Speaker 9 (14:43):
To come out. But there's a lot of things that
he did with that mortgage.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
You know, he first of all, he might not have
been able to even get the mortgage if he hadn't
declared the thing as his primary home.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
So it's it's not a small deal. This is mortgage fraud.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
And I mean these are as you said, all the
people prosecuting Donald Trump, but yet they are the fraudsters.
Even after eight years of trying to get Trump, they
haven't been able to make anything stick. And I love
it how Democrats say, well, that's because Trump is corrupt,
not because they're trying to bring fake charges against him.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
But there's more going on with these mortgages.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Because somebody else told me that this is like a
primary way to do money laundering. And they explain to
me that the bank doesn't track or care who pays
for the mortgage.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
They just record the payment was made.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And so what someone could do is they hif I
do a check for two hundred thousand bucks, because that's bribery.
But if you go to the bank and refinance your
house for two hundred thousand, we'll just pay your mortgage
and the bank won't check and nobody will really know.
And so it's possible that something like that happening. I
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don't have direct evidence that that has happened, but there's
a really large number of refinances going on on Adam
Shift's home, Jamie Raskin's home. The other people will say, hey,
there's a lot of reasons that people might refinance their homes.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
You at a better rate.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
You're needing money, whatever it might be, but at a
certain point, the cost of the refinancing it negates.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
If you're dealing legitimately.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You know, if somebody else is paying the mortgage, all
these calculations go out the window.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
But a regular person doesn't.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Refinance their home five times and twenty years usually because it's.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Just the cost. It doesn't make sense that much. But
there's a lot of other things going on.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Signatures where they shouldn't be, the serial pattern of multiple
people miss and those people being attorneys, making it extremely
unlikely that these are mistakes.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
And also the similarities. You know, Letitia James.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Has mortgage fraud issues, Adam Schiff has mortgage fraud issues.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You brought up. Andrew Weisman, he's one of the best ones.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He can.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You go through that a little bit because he got
is he the one with the first Republic Bank which went.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Under it exactly?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Okay, talk about that.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Weisman's huge he is he was the FBI General Counsel.
What's arted his career his government career as a prosecutor,
an assistant US attorney in the Eastern District of New York.
Now that's the same US Attorney's Office, where we get
Pearl Howell who is now a US District Court judge
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in Washington, d C. Loretta Lynch King Attorney General under Obama.
After our holder, we've got deranged Jack Smith coming out
of the Eastern District of New York, and my favorite
US District Court judge, Valerie Caproni, who I allege is
the queen Bee of this lawfare network. Kaproni was the
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FBI General Counsel just prior to Weisman, and Andrew Weissman
was Caprony's apprentice in the Eastern District of New York,
in charge of the Organized Crime Division of the US
Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of New York. Weisman
was directly under her, and they credit themselves with taking
out the mafia in New York, the Colombo crime or
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I think it was the Colombo crime family. But they
are also very involved with this guy named Felix Sator.
Do you guys remember the name Felix la Yes, he
was the nation real estate developer. He was the Russian
real estate developer, Russian American real estate developer behind Trump
Tower Moscow. And he was the guy whose emails came
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out in the Stormy Daniels trial. He's emailing Michael Cohen saying, Hey,
we got to get our boy to Moscow. I'm going
to introduce him to Putin and we're going to have
Vivanka sit on Putin's throne or some ridiculous emails that
Felix Sator is sending.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
But of course anybody can send an email.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
There is no evidence at all that Felix Sator knows
or has the ability to introduce anybody to Putin. In
my opinion, he's just injecting these crazy emails to use
at this lawfair trial with Michael Cohen. And here's an
interesting detail because remember Letitia James was all over that case.
She's the one who, with Alvin Bragg, brought this insane
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novel legal theory where we're going to resurrect state statues
and combine them with federal statutes and misdemeanors and felonies,
all this nutty stuff that they did. But Michael Cohen
testified in that trial that he paid Stormy Daniels one
hundred and thirty thousand dollars of his own money because
he didn't want to tell Trump. He wanted to make
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this problem go away so that he could be Trump's
fixer because he wanted to be the Attorney general or
the White House counsel or something like that. And when
I heard that, I had presumed that Michael Cohen had
some property other than his I think he's got like
a three or a four million dollar condo in a
Trump Tower Park avenue that we had heard about before,
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but that was known to be matal property.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Him and his wife lived there.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
So when he got this one hundred and thirty thousand keylock,
I presumed he had maybe an apartment from before they
got married, or a ski cabin or a hunting cabin
or something that he could only get one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars loan against. But I've learned that I
was incorrect. He got a five hundred thousand dollars home
equity line of credit while he was under investigation by
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the FBI, and he would have had to tell the bank, oh,
excuse me. And it was against the marital property as
collateral without his wife's signature, So that's mortgage fraud right there.
He could just take all that money, zip out of
town and saddle his wife with the debt lever forever.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
You can't do that.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You can't take out a loan on marital property without
the co signature of the of the co owner.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
And forget the banker.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
But I'm sure the bank officer says them, well, mister Cohen,
it's all right.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
You're probably rise your wife for the intern on the house. Right.
Oh no, I'm giving this money to a hooker.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Okay, here's your Well, maybe he's got shifts lender, maybe
he knows shifts lending.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
But Republic Bank first Republic Banks.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Which went under and JP Morgan took it all right,
here's the thing. This is happening all over.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Liz Harris found this out in Arizona and a lot
of money came through the cartels. That's why suddenly it's
amazing how Carrie Lake loses two elections even though Trump
wins Arizona by a huge amount. I mean, things are
just so insane everywhere. So this is this is how,
in my opinion, obviously they're paying people off act Blue
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coming into this now is Trump is going to look
into that.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Who knows what that's going to do.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But you have let me see, Norm Eisen, we haven't
gotten James Public Bank.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Less than a minute, yeah, thirty seconds, okay, but it's
important because the Republic Bank goes into FDIC receivership five
days after they give Andrew Weisman a one million dollar
long A bank definitely knew that was going to happen Weisman,
it would seem new.
Speaker 9 (22:04):
And the question becomes is this bank and intelligence cut out?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Mm hmm and wait, and there's more to that too,
So we'll get to that after the break, because he
apparently got.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Give us a t though, give us a from you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I learned it from watching.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I know, I know there's more to it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's a fixed loan that he suddenly got by a
bank that supposedly is going under right, it's just insane.
More with Jason Goodman again, Folks, please follow med JG
underscored crowdsource the Truth. Oh what a tangled web we're
trying to unweave right here, because this is how all
this money and all these people become multi millionaires.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
We'll be back right after.
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Welcome back to Cowboy Logic. Everybody follow the money trail.
We've been talking about that. I think we're in our thirteenth,
twelfth or thirteenth year.
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Speaker 7 (25:40):
All right, Hey, you know we've been talking about whit'sman.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Here and it is so unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I'm sure he's got some friends in his circle, but
I don't know how many, because he's been in the
he's been in our orbit here for over a decade.
You know, Sidney Powell wrote a book Licensed to Lie.
He was one of the main main schlub characters in that.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
That was written eleven years ago. It's all the same people.
They're still there. So let's bring Jason Goodman back on.
Andrew Weizman, though he got a real sweetheart deal in real.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Estate more recently.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I mean Weisman, like you say, was the prosecutor and
the Moler investigation as well, tight with Jack Smith, who
worked in the Southern District in New York.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean, these people are.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So dirty, it's unbelievable how they get away with this.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, well they were in the Eastern District of New York.
It is closely associated with the Southern District of New York.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
And it's just totally corrupt.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
One more mortgage is one of the worst that I've evaluated.
So what happened with him is in twenty twenty three,
he purchased two sort of adjoining condominium apartments in a
very premium Tribeca building, seven point five million dollar real
estate deal that he go a loan from First Republic
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Bank five days before it went into FDIC receivership became
totally insolvent. He got a loan for a million dollars
and it just does not seem plausible to me that
a bank would do that. I think they would know
that they were going to fail more than five days
before it happens, and they would not give out any loans.
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But the loan that Weisman got is particularly strange. It's
a thirty year jumbo arm, so it's an adjustable rate
mortgage that starts out at four point nine five percent
but can go up as high as ten or eleven percent.
And when the takeover happened, when the Treasury Department forced
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basically JP Morgan Chase to take over the failed bank,
the loan was transferred directly from First Republic to Chase
and it was locked in for ten years at four
point nine to five percent. Now I don't I've never
done on a seven point five million dollar real estate deal,
but it sounds kind of non standard to me to
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have less than twenty percent of the total to put down.
I don't understand why they would give you such a
favorable rate. I mean, in my opinion, that favorable rate
is achieved by putting maybe fifty percent. You know, you
put more down and demonstrate that you have a lot
of money and are a low risk for the bank.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
That's when they give you a more favorable rate, not when.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You don't even have twenty percent to put down, so
that was strange. But there's no record of where the
rest of this, you know, the six and a half million,
where did that come from?
Speaker 9 (28:38):
We don't know. It's possible this whole thing was given
to him.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And the part of all of it is that he's
doing this transaction with a guy named Leonard Toberoff, who
is a known, allegedly criminal associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Now again,
if we're broadcasters, if we're you know, working people with
regular jobs, and you know, we don't know everything about
every organized criminal in New York City, but the three
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of us were not the general counsel of the FBI
and the lead prosecutor in the Organized Crime Division.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Of the Eastern District of New York US Attorney's Office.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
In my view, it's absurd that Weisman didn't know that
this guy was involved in the Towers financial scandal and
involved with Epstein and that.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Guy Hoffenberg and the Penwaltz scandal.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
It's the whole thing just reeks, and I think we
need an investigation into these people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
That might be why Pam Bondi's taking so much time,
because they really have to look so closely, so you
spoke about Epstein indirectly. Now there is a person named
John Roberts on Epstein's list, supposedly Now they don't know
if it's the same one or not.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It could be a very common name.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
But Norm Eisen, who was the ambassador to the Czech
Republic at the time, he has this big mansion that
he can use or castle that he's able to live in,
entertained John Roberts over there as well, and Norm Eisen
has some problems with mortgages.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yes, well, we heard that directly from Norm Issen, that
John Roberts had had come to visit him and stay
with him for a week or two when he was
the ambassador to the Czech Republic. The thing that struck
me about that is that from the Hunter Biden laptop
an email came out I think it was I don't remember.
It was from Devin Archer or one of those guys
emailing Hunter Biden saying, ooh, norm has just become the
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ambassador for the Czech Republic.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
Let's go visit him. And I mean, I've never been.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
To the Czech Republic, but what do they have going
on over there? Like child hookers or something like? Why
does Hunter Biden want to go there. Why is John
Roberts there? Why is John Roberts there for a week.
Isn't he supposed to be working in the Supreme Court.
I mean, I guess these guys can take vacations, but
you're right, it's very weird. Now, norm I've just started
to look into with the mortgages, and he owns two
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kind of like slumlord rental properties in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
One of them is I don't have the information in
front of me right now.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
It is either or seventeen units, and it's one of
these kind of like press board and stucco buildings, like
a really kind of slumlord kind of building. And I
wasn't able to get to the mortgages on those because
it was in a county in Los Angeles where they
wanted me to fill out this whole form about why
do you need this information, et cetera. So I just
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moved on to some of the other things I was
able to investigate that I could download in real time.
And he had an apartment in Washington, d C. There
was some screwy business there. It wasn't as bad as
the others, but I wanted to look at those other
two apartments in Los Angeles. And again, I'm just starting
this investigation. It's only a little well a week or
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two that I've been working on it.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
So we're just scratching the surface.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
And what is happening is people who are seeing it
are contacting me, Like I said, mortgage experts, real estate
brokers and people who know about this stuff. They know
the tricks, they know what's supposed to be there, what's
not supposed to be there. For instance, there was one
thing in Jamie Raskin's mortgage where there was a zero
dollar deed where him and his wife transferred it to themselves,
(32:08):
and so some you know, real estate people had contacted
me and said that that could be normal for a
variety of different reasons.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
And I can see that it could be.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
But the issue is there's so much smoke around this
that there there really does seem to be a fire.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, with Weisman, where did the six point five million go?
Speaker 9 (32:27):
You know, like where they must have been able to go?
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And Janettel Janet.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
Janet money laundering. Let's just go down the road of
money laundering for a moment.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
So tell money laundering, Right, So you got all this
money and you know, let's say, Okay, you buy this
apartment in New York City through some kind of complicated
mortgage thing put together by a lawyer that I can't understand,
and now you've got this kind of criminal owning this property. Well,
what are we going to do with a seven point
five million dollar property in New York City? I think
you could rent that for probably twenty five thousand bucks
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a month. You can't really do that if you're going
to the real estate company and saying, hey, send the
money to the Cineloa cartel. You could do that if
you're Andrew Weisman. Makes sense that a fancy rich lawyer
owns this apartment. He goes to Compass Realty and they say, oh, sure,
mister Weisman will rent your apartment for you. Now he's
getting rental income twenty five thousand a month.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
Does he go meet to.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Cineloa at the Mexican restaurant with a garbage bag full
of ten thousand dollars every month and split the rental revenue?
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I'm just saying there's a lot of I don't know
about money laundering because I'm not a criminal. But Andrew
Weissman does. He's been prosecuting complex fraud for thirty years.
I bet you he knows about a lot of schemes.
And back to Valerie Caproni, his mentor.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
Well, she was.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
The head of the Organized Crime Division in the Eastern
District of New York. Then went to the SEC, where
what she did there is pretty unknown, but largely credited
as increasing their enforcement capabilities and interactions with other federal
agencies like the FBI. Then she came back and she
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became the General Counsel of the FBI and mes a
US District Court judge. So we've got people in this
lawfare loan scam and this lawfare network from the executive
branch Andrew Weisman and Caproni when they were in the FBI,
the legislative branch with.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
A Shift and Raskin.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
And the judicial with Caproni now as a judge. So
they've basically penetrated, permeated, and destroyed the separation of powers.
And in my opinion, they have decimated the constitutional Republic
of the United States of America.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
And hold on, hold on, we've got to go to break.
We got a heart out here. Yeah, that is huge,
that's very huge, Ladies and gentlemen, We got one more
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Speaker 5 (36:17):
With Jason Goodman of Crowdsource the Truth dot org and
again find nice lid.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
You got there?
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Man, We saw that in the background. That's pretty cool.
Bullets digging.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
That made you put the hat on. I mean, we're
Cowboy Logic. You gotta have to. Even though I know
you're New York, it is appropriate.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
So at JG underscore CSTT as in Crowdsource the Truth.
All right, so many, I mean we're talking shift might
be in deep shift. We're talking uh, you know, James
Antar looking into the real estate laundering of Tiss James.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
He did some great stuff there.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
You've got Liz Harris out in Arizona looking at the lawmakers.
They are doing a lot of stuff with Cartels and Jason.
What you have found is just I mean, you've got
so many different people. The one person we really didn't
look into enough is little Jamie Raskin. He's another one
that doesn't want Ed Martin in there. Talk a little
bit about what little Jamie Raskin. He took out two loans,
(37:12):
no sign he ever paid him back.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah, I mean, there's all kinds of really questionable activity.
Now again, it's a lot of it is done in
a way that some people will say, oh, well maybe
this reason, maybe that reason, But that's called plausible deniability.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
Again, these guys are attorneys.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
They're not walking into the bank with a gun and
saying give me.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
All the money.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
The way this works is it's a complicated scheme that
even when it's right in front of you, it's difficult
to figure out. So everything I'm saying is this is
not conclusions. This is evidence. And again my purpose here
is to sort of serfce enough evidence to enable an indictment.
I believe that is what Ed Martin wants to do.
(37:56):
That's what a US attorney does. They indict people and
then you have a trial. Now, again, this is the
Lawfare network, and as we just said in the last segment,
I see evidence that it has permeated the district courts.
So you know, I'm not I don't know what will
happen if they do get indicted and get into court.
It becomes a whole separate problem. But I'm just trying
(38:18):
to map this out and help people understand. As we said,
we've got people judges or involved congress people.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
It's an incredibly difficult problem.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Well, if they get into court, they have nothing to
worry about. That's the that's the problem. If they get
into court, they're going to have any of these liberal
district judges.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
That are going to, you know, dismiss the case.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But this is.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Right, This is Don is right. Say that against a
couple of times for US.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Don is so right. I can't even say it enough times,
because let's let's play this out. Let's say and Weisman
gets indicted and he's up on trial in Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Well, who's going to be.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
The judge.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Right, James Boseburg.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
I mean they have these jurisdictions captured so that they
can't there.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Yeah, exactly, exactly right now. Now, I'm going to ask
the question.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
I'm going to ask a question, and I want to
see if both of you guys can answer this thing.
Does Trump have the ability to vacate the seats of
the d C District courts?
Speaker 9 (39:36):
I don't believe so. No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I think the Congress could abolish the district does not
take away the judgeships of the appointed judges.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
They would, I think, be impelled there. I think they would.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Both to reconse they cannot disjudge. They could get rid
of the district court and calls to some district court
in Virginia or Maryland or whatever. Those judges would have
to be reassigned. And you can't just arbit really fire judges.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
But espinally, we've struck a nerve with Elon because you've
got starlink and something weird is going on.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think the hat is causing is causing the shot.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
No, but I heard no, it's okay, but I had
heard that Scotus is the only you know, the Supreme
Court is the only thing that is constitutional. These other
judges can I mean, these courts, these lower courts can
just be disbanded.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
But that's something we need to look into.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
But I just can, but the judges can't. Is my understanding.
I'm not a lawyer. We need to ask a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Okay, now let's get into let's ask Andrew Weissman.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
The whole thing really the norm.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
But all this goes back to, like the whole mortgage
problems and the collapse of the economy in two thousand
and seven to two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Janet Yellen used Janet Yelling knew that was.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Paid fifteen point six billion dollars to bail out First
Republic Bank. And nobody's been punished with that one, you know,
with the FED chair and all that other stuff. But
with Jamie Rask and you have two different lenders, Barnett
Mortgage Company and First Federal of Rochester, and they erased
all the debt without any explanation.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I mean, this is just so.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Forgetting I'm forgetting all the details. But you're right, that's
what I'm saying. Each of these things need to be
looked into. So this is, as I said, evidence, and
so I know, people get onto Twitter and they tell me,
or they get into X and they tell me, oh,
you haven't proven anything, babbah. But see, I'm not trying
to prosecute these people. I'm not trying to prove that
(41:45):
he did these things. I'm trying to point to evidence
of crime, and that is what we need to Indeed,
people have.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
Heard the phrase that you can indict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
What they are trying to say is the bar leaving
indictment is low, Unlike convicting someone, where you need to
prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. To indict someone, you
just in panel a grand jury and you're asking them,
does this seem like sufficient evidence to charge the person
with a crime.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
We're not asking whether they're guilty or not.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
We're just asking should we start bringing this person into court,
asking them qunder oath, subpoenaing bank records, finding out who
paid these mortgages.
Speaker 9 (42:30):
Maybe these people are innocent.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Maybe they're going to be able to present evidence that
shows that all of this was on the up and up.
And I just don't know how to read a mortgage.
I would be surprised if that happened. But everybody is innocent.
Until proven guilty. I am trying to assemble sufficient information
to indict various individuals that I see are very interconnected
(42:54):
in terms of the schemes that they're doing to try
to nail Donald Trump. And they all seem to be
getting similar types of loans from similar types of lenders
and other.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
Point as we can then shift particularly.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
All right, listen, while he's dropped, I want to hold
on secondation dropped out.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
You dropped out a little bit.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
I want to remind everything you said a very important
statement just a minute ago. Everybody's innocent until proven guilty,
with the exception of our beloved Jay Sexers of course, yes.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
And and Donald Truce. That's you know what Jason's trying
to do. He's trying to crowdsource the truth. That's what
he's doing.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Elon Musk is getting in the way of things.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
That's what happens with works really well, should well, this is.
Speaker 8 (43:42):
Okay, I got a couple of minutes left. We got
a couple of minutes left. We'll get through it. We'll
get there.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And folks, so let me just wrap this up.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
This this idea about the low amount of money that
they're saving. Jamie Raskin and Adam Shift. They saved maybe
one hundred or two hundred dollars a month on the mortgage.
And I just don't find it plausible that lawyer and
a congress person would risk their entire public reputation and
all that stuff for such a low incentive. I think
this is an initiation into a lawfare network where now
(44:12):
we have all this documented proof and evidence of these
guys committing for committing stuff over there's it seems like
not this collateral against them where they say, hey, Shift,
we need you to convince the world that Donald Trump
is a Russian agent. I can't do that. It's facian.
Oh we don't want anybody to find out about all
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these mortgages, do we.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
So it's like, this is your jaciation Jason.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
Jason, Jason, look at their spouses, look at their families.
In many cases, if these guys are realizing one hundred
or a two hundred dollars difference in their mortgage, a
game te.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
That the family are the ones that are benefiting.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
And you have that with so many of the judges
as well. I mean, it's really insane. You got about
a minute left. You want to just wrap things up here, Jason,
and by the way, folks, if you go to his website,
you see a lot of things that he's done also
with child trafficking in the New York City area.
Speaker 9 (45:10):
And exposing it, not doing it, no.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Exposing it and all different.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
You know, you were also there, you went, and you've
looked into the situation of Butler Pennsylvania as well, so
you're working in many different areas there you go.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Yeah, well, the child trafficking thing is particularly interesting because
that was at the Walcott Hotel. And of course Eric
Adams is another guy who owns a multi.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
Unit apartment building I think in Brooklyn. How did he
afford that?
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Real estate tax is incredibly high in New York City
maintenance on a property like that. This guy was a
cop city council. How can he afford a multi unit
apartment building. It seems like there are a lot of
politicians and people in the government and the FBI and
things like that who have this wealth that doesn't quite
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make sense.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Meanwhile, all the rest.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Of aoc is worth.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Ac is worth eight million dollars.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
Look at the family, look at that little no boyfriend exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Unfortunately, Jason, we are out of time.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Jason truth again Crowdsourcethetruth dot Org and that's what he
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You see his stuff, get in touch with him. There's
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but right now, if you look at this on the outset,
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I call him watermelon head. I call him bug eyes.
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when she talks. So we have a lot of indictments
that are coming right. She can't keep her teeth in
her mouth. I call him missus potato head, because everything's
(56:28):
falling off, the eyebrows, the lips, everything's falling off. So
we're looking at indicting these people. We have to take
care of this and the judges.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
These are all sick. So Mike Davis was there. We
talked to him.
Speaker 13 (56:40):
A very nice guy, handsome guy, right, tremendous guy, smart guy,
and he knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 15 (56:46):
We are.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We're going to take care of these nasty people.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Real quick, mister President. We only have a few minutes left.
Speaker 5 (56:52):
Here, you're suing Perkins Cooey, the big law firm that's
been suing you for god knows how long, and suggesting
that Bowening maybe get a new representation.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
How's that going?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
When you look at Perkins coooy?
Speaker 13 (57:05):
They had the phony dossier Russia Russia Rushia, right, uh,
and it was crooked.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Hillary and all of these people.
Speaker 13 (57:12):
But we're gonna sue the pants off of these people, right,
We're gonna sue the pants and when their pants are off,
we're gonna laugh at them. You know what I'm talking about, Right,
So we're suing them. We're gonna sue them like nobody's
ever seen.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
He's a dirty, disgusting people. You dirty disgusting people.
Speaker 8 (57:28):
Very you hear it, right?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Absolutely dirty, mister President.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
We've got it.
Speaker 8 (57:34):
Could be we've got some static going. Oh cow, we've
actually got Sean Parish in the barn.
Speaker 7 (57:45):
Oh my, what's up, brother Sean Ferrish? Awesome job you
how you doing?
Speaker 8 (57:53):
Man?
Speaker 13 (57:54):
We're doing well, We're doing really well. That was a
lot of fun, I can tell you what. That was
a lot of fun. And uh, it's always you know,
it's always fun when I when I do stuff like
that kind of what how the reveal is going to
take place, and this was by far the most creative.
Speaker 7 (58:08):
So thank you.
Speaker 8 (58:11):
And I got to tell you, ladies and gentlemen. Uh,
you know so much of what Sean did. We asked
him before the interview started. You want us to throw
you some you know, some questions that we're gonna and
he goes, no, I.
Speaker 7 (58:24):
Do better, do better on the fly. Hey, when we get.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
Back from this break with uh with uh, well three
minute break, three minute big Ley, We're going to actually
spend the next whole segment with Sean as Sean.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
And host of Ungoverned on Rumble l f A TV.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
On Rumble Jeremy Harrald's Great Network again he hosts Ungoverned
Sean Farish folks none better as far as really, yeah,
I'm impersonating Donald Trump. I love when you go up
like when you like you go into McDonald's and you
actually order and the people are like, whoa, it sounds
like the president And actually at one point the president
was a McDonald So we'll be back right after this. Yeah,
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Jewn Farrish right after this on Cowboard launching.
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Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
We still have nothing. It was so much fun the
President Trump.
Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yeah, that was probably just as good enough.
Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
Really, Although I gotta be honest, if we have President
Trump on the show and he ends up putting a
nice beaver on his head, it's got to be shaped.
It's got to be shaped. Don't ever put a hat
on your head. That's a gift straight out of the box.
It will be an ill fitting beaver.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
We'll make sure you get the hat first in shape.
Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
It Well, yeah, all right, let's get back in with
brother Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
That really was.
Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
I should preface this shown by saying, last time we
had you on was a little day last year called
Jay thirteen.
Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Yep, so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
You know the show was on at six am, so
everybody got to see you. Then it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
But then obviously after President Trump had that assassination attempt,
we got preempted.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
I'm on the phone.
Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
I'm on the phone to Parker Sid going, you got
to pull the show. There's no way we can do
this show. You got to run into our show. Whatever
you do preempt us.
Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Well, they didn't have some special programming anyhow. But I mean,
let's hope that doesn't happen again here.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
But this we should have.
Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
We should have you back on more often because it's
just you're so on top of everything, and to do
it with Trump, with Trump's voice is just hilarious again, folks.
He hosts Ungoverned on Jeremy Harrold's network LFA TV. It's
on Rumble and it's on X so please do follow him.
And on social media it's Sean Shawn underscore. You can't
(01:01:56):
really see the underscore that well there underscore farish with one.
Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Sean because I don't have my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
So anyhow, Sean, let's get started on a serious note.
Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Watt.
Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
The swatting thing has affected you, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
It has.
Speaker 13 (01:02:12):
About a month and a half ago, my wife and
I were swatted. I had heard about several people, you know,
on our side of the aisle politically, on social media
being swatted that morning, and you know, I was my
wife and I were, you know, we just moved into
a house here. He bought a house in Tennessee, very
excited about it, and we were ripping out an old
chain link fence that was in the yard that we
(01:02:32):
didn't want, and I was tired.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I took a little twenty minute nap.
Speaker 13 (01:02:36):
She comes running into the room, wakes me up, says,
there's cops in our yard with guns. I sat straight
up and I said, all right, we're being swatted. She
didn't know what that meant. She thought it was going
to be like a J six situation, where you know,
they're going to rip us out of the house. I said, no, no, no,
it's not gonna be one of those. But they're going
to be here and it's going to be tense, and
we just have to stay calm.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You know.
Speaker 13 (01:02:56):
They have guns drawn. We can't be jumpy. We don't
want them to be jumpy. We're gonna for instructions. And
what wound up happening is I wound up getting a
phone call rather than them coming and knocking on the door,
I wound up getting a phone call. I just found
out the reason I got the nine one one call
from our sheriff. I was able to get that from them,
(01:03:17):
that the swater had a really bad connection. So they
were like, what's the number I can call you at?
And the swatter gave my number. So they called me
and they said, hey, we got a call that you
shot your parents in the house and that you were
planning on committing suicide by cop.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And I said, well, I am not doing that.
Speaker 13 (01:03:39):
My wife is here with me, and we are willing
to demonstrate anything that we have to demonstrate to show
you that that is not what's going on in this house.
So we came out and they had their guns pointed
and our hands were up. They patted us down. We
had a seat on a neighbor's driveway.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
They cleared the house.
Speaker 13 (01:03:56):
And then you know, we talked about it afterwards, but
not a good experience for us, and by the way
not a good experience for this neighborhood. This is a
quiet neighborhood that we live in in Tennessee, just outside
of Murphysboro, Tennessee. And we heard from several neighbors after
the fact who are on our side politically, thankfully. And
(01:04:19):
I spoke to one of the kids. He's about eight
or nine years old.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
And this is this is really what gets me upset.
Speaker 13 (01:04:24):
Right, Obviously, guns pointed at me, guns pointed out my wife,
guns pointed at our house. You know, we have our
pets in the house. They're still jumpy when a stranger
comes into the house because of that. But outside of
just this house, I spoke to this eight nine year
old kid and I said, you know, what did what
did you do when you saw that happening? And he
said to me, and this really makes me angry, he
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was hiding under his desk in his room, crying because
he thought he might die. And that to me is
something that you know, you're now picking on a nine
year old. You've terrorized not just me, not just my wife,
not just people in my house, but you've terrorized this
entire neighborhood because they've never seen.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Something like this.
Speaker 13 (01:05:02):
Happen before, and that is why I want these people
caught and charged with domestic terrorism. And from what I understand,
FBI is taking this extremely seriously and will be treating
it as terrorism. But we got to catch them, and
I think we will. I think they will be caught,
but it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
What are some of the hurdles you and I were
talking or we were talking about some of the hurdles
that that they mask themselves with when they're doing this,
Because I know that Donna and I have taken a
proactive step toward what would happen, God forbid if we
were swatted, and we've already contacted our sheriff's department, So
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anybody planning on swatting us, they know already and we've
got we've got a plan in place, and we talked
about that, Sean. But what are some of the things
that these swatters are doing that are masking their identity
because you know, we try to use the analogy of
JA six.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Yeah, they found them in a nanosecond. They had four
or five hundred of them arrested by this time in
the Trump regime. But you say it's a little different
now with their phones.
Speaker 13 (01:06:09):
Yeah, it's definitely different because you think of the mind.
You know, I was present at January sixth. I wasn't
at the capital like in the Capitol, but I was.
I was at the protest.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
We were there.
Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
Obviously, you know, you're thinking everything you're doing, it's covered
by the First Amendment. So there's no reason to conceal
your identity, there's no reason to conceal your location, there's
no reason to throw up a VPN, none of that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
These people who.
Speaker 13 (01:06:30):
Are calling in these false SWAT calls, no going into
the operation that they're breaking the law, right that is
already a crime. So they're taking several steps to make
sure that you know, they're not tracked, they're not found,
they don't know the location that they're using either a
burner phone or you know, their phone number is being
masked by several layers of protection. And look, I'm all
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for Internet privacy.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I have a VPN.
Speaker 13 (01:06:53):
I use it when I'm in airports or public places
because I don't want my identity stolen. I don't want
any of my passwords stolen on anything of mind getting hacked. Right,
So I even have some of these apps that most
likely you know whoever is calling in these false calls
are using and you can very very easily mask your location,
your IP address, you know your identity by using apps
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that are not that expensive and programs that are not
that expensive. And so you know, the JA sixers who
were found, they were found because essentially they didn't think
they were doing anything, no reason to hide, right, people
with nothing to hide hide nothing, And a lot of
the JA sixers weren't doing something wrong. But these swatters
are doing something wrong, and they know that going in.
They don't want to be found. They're afraid of being found,
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so they've taken the proactive steps beforehand to make it
harder to be found. That's not to say that the
onion can't be peeled back and they won't be found,
but it is far more complicated than saying, all right,
somebody's phone was at the Capitol on January sixth, Get
the carrier, get the account holder.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Get the address, go get them.
Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
This is going to be.
Speaker 13 (01:07:52):
One of those things where right like our sheriffs told us,
this was a Google Voice call out of California. Now,
does that mean that this person was in or did
they sign up for a Google Voice number with a
California area code and send their location there when they
could be anywhere.
Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
Right.
Speaker 13 (01:08:08):
So we don't know where these people came from, and
it's gonna be very hard to find them. But I
will say this, and I know the pace has been
frustrating for a lot of people. You know, we talked
about Mike Davis with the quote unquote President. I will
say this new leadership at the FBI, Cash Bettel, Dan Bongino,
I have a heck of a lot more faith that
(01:08:29):
those men and their FBI are going to track down
these people than I would if it was Christopher Ray
and Andy McCabe and the rest of those swampy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So I think they will be caught.
Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
I think they will be brought to justice, and I
think they're going to get everything in the kitchen seeing
thrown again thrown at them to make sure that they're
held fully and completely accountable for not just what they
did to us, all of us who've been swatted, but
the neighborhoods and the children and other people in general.
It's not acceptable should be treated as terrorism.
Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
You know, a cat turd was swatted four times, MTG
multiple times. Cryl Atkinson just watted recently. It really is insane.
Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Luckily where we are there's only cows and a few
other horses.
Speaker 8 (01:09:06):
No, I remember ten plus years ago when all we
were doing was radio and we had one of our
co hosts get swatted up in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
You remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Yep, that's true. All right.
Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
So let's get back to some serious stuff now that
we only have a minute and a half left. How
are you going to Mala make America laugh again? What
you're working on?
Speaker 13 (01:09:27):
Well, yeah, there's a couple of cool ideas that I've got,
maybe delving into song parodies.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
We'll see.
Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
I haven't done it yet. I've been kind of thinking
about it, but you know, Kilmar Brigo Garcia, some of
these radical judges, and just the overall behavior of the left,
there's plenty of material, right, So making America laugh through
the crazy times that we're in I think is important.
Excited to do it, and everything I do is going
to be out on social media and you know you
(01:09:56):
can follow me there, but I hope to have you
laughing along.
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
It's so amazing to me that what now with these
three judges at this point that have been arrested, how
the leftist media says see where you know, Donald Trump's
arresting all the.
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
People that you know he can't stand. Yeah, meanwhile, what yeah,
he's a fascist. It's it's so upside down, it's just insanity.
Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
So Sean, tell everybody where everybody can find you and
the great stuff that you do.
Speaker 14 (01:10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (01:10:25):
So that's on social media, Sean sah w N underscore
faar a s h all the links to shows, podcasts, websites, interviews,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
It's all there.
Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
I'm mostly active on x but I always post a
link to my show on Getter. I know you have
a huge presence over on Getter, so you can follow
me there. Sah w N underscore fa r a s
h uh. And it's the best way to follow and
find what I'm doing for you.
Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
You are appointment Television brother.
Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Absolutely on LFA TV again on x N Rumble Sean Farriss,
thank you so much much.
Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
We'll be back with more Cowboy Live. Well, let's get down.
Speaker 8 (01:11:03):
Wow, I'll baby.
Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
You can find me.
Speaker 8 (01:11:06):
In the back of the tacked up tailgates, sitting man
wants and all these pretty big.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I'm getting down in the Georgia clean. I'll found peace
at the bottom of.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
The reil top, so I just sort of got a
glimpse of what was in here.
Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
I am sched here it is folks around my food
forest Bible.
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah yeah, a baby.
Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Pull it out.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
See if I can get it out of the box.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I'll get it between.
Speaker 14 (01:11:42):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Love it, love it, love it. And it's autographed. Oh
my gosh, how lucky can you be. I'm gonna have
to order the one that's not a coffee table book
so I can use it every day. This one's going
on the coffee table. Love it so much. Thank you,
joel On what.
Speaker 8 (01:12:52):
Welcome back, everybody, And as that bumper showed you, uh,
we are not forgetting the jay sichers to be honest
with you, everybody, you know. For three and a half
plus years, we covered this from a perspective of dealing
with guys that were.
Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Locked up behind bars.
Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
We moved then to the families once they got moved
into the bop. We moved to the families and the
kind of collateral damage that this was causing. Now that
everybody is out and or pardoned with those few exceptions
that were commuted, it's a whole new world and we're
(01:13:33):
seeing all kinds of struggles We're going to bring in
somebody that you guys might recognize here because he spent
a lot of time in television and film and if
anybody has watched Bob Bergers, you know Jimmy Pestow. Jay Johnston, Welcome,
(01:13:54):
sir to Cawboy Logic. Cowboy Logic is pretty thrilled to
have you here. You know, full transparency everybody when when
we bring on a guest that we haven't spent a
whole lot of time.
Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
With, or for that matter, talked to before.
Speaker 8 (01:14:09):
We do these things called pre interview calls in which
we talked to, uh, talk to the upcoming guest about
interesting things and things we need to touch on. Jay
and I spent almost two hours on the phone one
night talking and we went all over the place. But
I think we'll both agree that we owe Kelly Megs
(01:14:29):
a hat tip because he introduced us.
Speaker 16 (01:14:32):
And so also, I'm a real I'm a real chatty Kathy.
Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
So you know, all right, you're an actor who's had
your career decimated and obliterated by Jay six. You were
telling me that you've got friends that no longer reach
out to you, or those that are are running around
like you're some kind of nuclear waste, toxic UH spills.
Speaker 16 (01:14:58):
It's amazing, It's incredible because what happens.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
Let me.
Speaker 16 (01:15:05):
I mean, you know, I went to the whole event
because I thought that that was my right as an American,
and I believe everyone else there thought the same. That
was the biggest surprise of the whole situation for me initially.
And when when I was put on the most wanted
(01:15:31):
list or the list of people that they were looking
for the FBI, UH, that was about that proceeded maybe
twelve hours before they started coming out with hit pieces
and I was fired from my jobs and fired from
Bob's Burgers. I was on that for eleven years, you know,
(01:15:51):
just immediately fired. No one even called me. I just
found out through newspaper articles and that type of thing.
And then everybody who who I knew in Hollywood, which
I didn't think this was possible, but I've heard of
this type of thing. They completely completely disappeared, didn't speak
to him for they still haven't spoken to him actually
(01:16:13):
over four years.
Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
So I mean, that's the that's the epitome of being
called black ball. That really is what happens. And again,
like you say, the media attacking you before the charges
were even filed, which is ridiculous. But I mean, you've
been on the Sarah Silverman Show. You're a voiceover artist,
a writer, and an actor animated series Bob's Burgers. Yeah,
(01:16:38):
I mean supporting roles in Angerman.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
Oh, I'm just gonna say. You like stuff on Adult Swim,
Moral Oral and Mister Pickles and you know, Mama named
me Sheriff. And these shows are kind of the the
base of them is all about subversive, if you will,
comedy that's like a very against the you know, grain,
(01:17:04):
and sort of stands outside of convention a lot of times.
And for these people who are creative professionals, artists two,
you know, just wholeheartedly turn around and completely disavow relationship
they've had with me for in some cases over thirty
(01:17:27):
years is pretty mind blowing. Yeah, Because you know, even
if you are a shallow actor, you think you have
friends that are perhaps a little more deep rooted than
just surface.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
So you were an anchorman and Men in Black two,
I mean not a thirty year career.
Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
This is nothing to sneeze at.
Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
So I would venture to say I always have to
bring this out when we have other actors. I would
venture to say, because I was on the original equalizer
for about thirty five seconds, but it got me my
SAG park. Okay, so here I have my Universal Studio
residual check pay exactly four cents.
Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Four cents.
Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
I mean, why even send this through the what's they
want to raise the cost of a stamp to seventy
eight cents at this point?
Speaker 16 (01:18:13):
Why even send it exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I mean I never.
Speaker 8 (01:18:18):
Yeah, well yeah, but she's she's she's obviously always been
a known conservative. So that's why she's only got a
check for four cents from SAG.
Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
That's pretty bad.
Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
All right, let's talk about a little bit about what
happened on jan six. We got about three and a
half minutes before we have to go to the first
break here.
Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
But sure, what happened with you on j six?
Speaker 9 (01:18:41):
Right?
Speaker 16 (01:18:41):
I mean, I got to be honest, I think that
nothing I would say is it's going to surprise you.
I mean, you've heard it all as far as this
is concerned. I was not violent. I kind of wandered
around and didn't really have anywhere that I was going
or any idea what I was doing uh you know it,
(01:19:04):
joined in on some chance and whatever, and I ended
up in the tunnel area in the on the west
terrace and got involved in like sort of a crowd
push or crowd crushes. What I mean. It looked to
the prosecutors like I was in you know, in engaged
(01:19:25):
in pushing. But I was just off balance and like
my hands were in front of me on the person
in front of me. So I wasn't there to do
anything uh villainous or insurrect any government violence or anything.
Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
Let me ask you this, when you when you had
that that sensation, that feeling of that crowd pushing. We've
had that described by especially Connie and Kelly Meigs who
got thrust into the UH to the Capitol. Have you
ever failt anything like that in your entire life?
Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
No?
Speaker 16 (01:19:59):
I I hadn't. It was it was kind of scary
for a bit there, because I would say the the
I wasn't. I didn't feel physically threatened. I'm kind of tall,
and I didn't feel like anybody there was. I wasn't scared,
I guess I should say, until that entire tunnel area
(01:20:20):
filled wall to wall with people and the crush came
and they were saying, he oh, he will. The thing
was is that you are like completely off balance. You're
totally forward in your feet or behind you, and you
have your hands up trying to right yourself. And that
was the only concern really. I couldn't get my balance,
(01:20:42):
and therefore you couldn't get out of there. You know,
you could have been trackled.
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
I mean that's what happened initially to Roseanne boiling into.
Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
Many other people.
Speaker 16 (01:20:50):
Yeah, and you have no control happening with a shield
was put down over my towards my head and I
ducked down, which then as I went down, I saw
a taser spike fly by my knee by about an inch,
and I thought I got to get out of here
right now. And I just ended up pushing people's knees
(01:21:12):
and hips lower and was able to get out that way.
Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
Kind of Well, you know, when you were leaning forward
pushing on somebody, they get a still photo of that.
Speaker 7 (01:21:22):
That's at one eleven A.
Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Yeah, you know, we take it out of context.
Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
And then you touch a shield and all of a sudden,
that's theft of government property.
Speaker 16 (01:21:31):
Well that was a problem. I did touch a shield.
Someone handed it to me as I wasn't looking, and
when it was in my hands, I was like, I
certainly don't want this. This is not why I'm here.
I don't want this.
Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
Did they charge you with theft? Did they charge you
with theft of of government property?
Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
No?
Speaker 16 (01:21:49):
Just illegal borrowing.
Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Illegal borrowing.
Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
All right, Well, when we get back from the brake,
when we get back from the break, we're going to
delve into illegal borrowing a little bit it.
Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
And find out exactly what that means.
Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
But you got to understand something, ladies and gentlemen. This had,
This gentleman had a thirty year career that came to
an immediate grinding halt and then was obliterated by the way.
Speaker 7 (01:22:13):
We'll be back with more gavil, you know.
Speaker 17 (01:22:31):
And I really gave it a lot of thought right
before January sixth, and I'm like, gosh, man, if I'm
going to go into this ryot, I need to smell
my best. That's why before every riot, I shower with
sugar Creek Goods, with the natural lie in oriaments and
lilac scented fragrance.
Speaker 9 (01:22:48):
You too, I can riot wonderful. Yes, I am.
Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Ready for battle.
Speaker 14 (01:22:53):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 17 (01:22:54):
Sugar Creek goods for making me smell fresh in every Riot.
Speaker 16 (01:22:57):
I actually showered with that last night, and I know
you I actually showered with this last night.
Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
Let me tell you something, and this is country.
Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
This bar is a man sized bar.
Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
Look at this. Look at the thickness of that bar.
Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
No communion way for that.
Speaker 9 (01:23:11):
And when you're in prison, you could.
Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
Sell one of these for like two honeybuts and maybe
another bag of coffee with that. So well, when you're
in prison, that's worth that's worth bending over to pick up.
Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Wouldn't you say at least three honey buns?
Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:23:25):
All right?
Speaker 13 (01:23:26):
Did your prison have a sign on the shower that
said one man at a time, Yes, but that one.
Speaker 7 (01:23:31):
Got scooped up really great. That's it, dude.
Speaker 17 (01:23:34):
That's why we put a rope on every soap.
Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
That's right, that's what a rope. Do they have a
soap on the rope? January sixth edition.
Speaker 7 (01:23:40):
They should know.
Speaker 8 (01:23:40):
But I am going to tell you something that you
guys may not know, and that is that they've got
the Sugar Creek goods.
Speaker 7 (01:23:48):
People have got that there's a soap on a rope.
Speaker 8 (01:23:52):
I gosh, the Patriot Bar. And here's what she did
every bar of soap. All the proceeds for the Patriot
Bar went back into commissary funds and things like that
for you guys.
Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Hey, thank you guys.
Speaker 14 (01:24:06):
This is Jeff Carlcy, conservative rocker, lead guitarist and founding
member of the band thirty eight Special. And you're listening
to my friends Donna and Don on Cowboy Logic. Let
us never forget the police Lives Matter.
Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
Welcome back, Jeff Darlyze. Everybody. You guys all know who
thirty eight Special is. And I'm here to tell you.
Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
In the world of rock and roll and rap and
R and B, you got some conservatives. They may not
talk about it on TV, which is just fine with me.
Bruce Springsteen, I think he needs one of them.
Speaker 7 (01:25:10):
No, he's not.
Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
He needs to he needs to sing his songs that
all sound the same and stopped playing.
Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
Politics, Bruce.
Speaker 8 (01:25:17):
But at any rate, there's a lot of conservative rockers
out there, and Jeff Carlsi is one of them.
Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
That's been that way for a long time. Now. We
got a conservative actor that we've been talking to.
Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Totally targeted, totally blackballed, comedic actor, writer and voiceover artist
Jay Johnston, who was there on January sixth, So tell
us about now your house.
Speaker 8 (01:25:38):
Was rated, and there was a lot of weird stuff
that went down on the fifth too.
Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
We'll say for another time.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
They were setting that up. But your house was rated
pretty early on.
Speaker 16 (01:25:50):
No, Yeah, well yeah, they actually I had originally when
when I was put on Twitter for you know, people
that or they wanted people to say what my name
was because they said, oh, we don't have the name
of this person. We want them for violence at the Capitol.
After that, there was a couple of months. Well, I immediately
(01:26:11):
went to the FBI and tried to get in contact
with them to say, hey, I didn't do anything. If
you know you want to do an interview, okay, but
I don't know anything and whatever, just don't raid my house.
You know, I have a special needs daughter and did
not want that to be something cheap would have to
go through. So time went on, months passed and they
(01:26:34):
asked me to come in for an interview and they said,
you know, you have like a week to decide give
us your answer. So right at the end of the week,
but the day I was supposed to go in and
tell them yes or no, I'm coming in or I'm
not coming in five point thirty in the morning, Boom,
FBI and twenty five agents on the lawn and cars
all over the lawn and they pull us out of
(01:26:55):
the house. Thankfully, thank god, my daughter was actually not
at our house that night. So they pulls us outside
and you know, I'm handcuffed on the lawn for about
forty five minutes, on my knees and my underwear, and
they're going through the place and you know, stopping people
on the street, you know, driving by, and neighbors are
(01:27:18):
out of their houses and everything, and they say, yeah,
let them get up, let them get dressed. We're not
going to arrest you. And I was like, what, You're
not going to arrest me?
Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
What is all this?
Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
What is this?
Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
You know?
Speaker 16 (01:27:27):
And they're like, well, we wanted you to come in
for an interview, but you know you didn't. You said no,
and I hadn't said no yet, so I really was
quite angry about that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Yeah, you know, as you know, and our beloved audience knows,
we've interviewed who we term as the OG, the guys
that were in C two B, and they were in
solitary for months and months and months and months and
months and months at.
Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
The beginning, and you were not, thankfully.
Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
But I'm going to tell you something, ladies and gentlemen,
the damage is different. It's not necessarily less, the pain
is different, the.
Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
The stress is different.
Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
And for somebody that didn't spend four years in a
jail slash Bureau of Prisons facility, what's some of the
stress that this has caused.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
You and your family outside of the career.
Speaker 16 (01:28:32):
Well, you know, of course, the the fact that the
career was completely removed and any opportunity in the future
was totally destroyed. That set that that circumstance because as
a whole you know, financial and uh, you know, psychological
(01:28:57):
strain on on my whole family, myself, health, It's it's
pretty intense. And the fact that you know, it was
a wholehearted just you know, removal of what I've done
for over thirty years and all this. You know, things
that you learned, you know, your network of people that
(01:29:18):
you would turn to when you're out of out of work,
and that type of thing starting all over basically, So
it's in one one regard. It's that takes your time,
that takes your your all your mental energy to focus
on that. So I really don't know what to say
(01:29:39):
about the idea of my time that I was supposed
to go and spend in prison, because it weighed on
me heavily and I'm my family. But yeah, I can
barely put in words what happened after the pardon, because
the pardon, I would have thought it would have been
just like phew, you know, and like let's move on.
(01:30:02):
That's what I wanted it to be behind us. It
turns out that was kind of the beginning in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, that's what we're finding more of a problem.
Speaker 16 (01:30:10):
How far are you at the beginning of like a
new stage of this whole journey, which has never really
been a journey that anybody chose. So it's well, you know,
for example, being blacklisted and everyone is turning their backs
on me in the industry here once the pardon came through,
(01:30:31):
of course, everything's fine, right and certainly not they're not
going to change their minds. Maybe ever, I have no idea,
but they're certainly you know, when the truth does finally
come out to people like that who will have their
walls up and not be interested in seeing the truth
(01:30:53):
until it's so blaringly obviously they can't deny it. Once
that occurs, their egos won't allow them to say, oh, yeah, sorry,
I was wrong. I mean that I don't that will
never happen, really.
Speaker 7 (01:31:06):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
What I hope is that guys like you and Siaka
Massaqui and Kevin Sorbo and any of these other conservative
industry people in television and ye brother Nick will find
others that will grow a pair and create the counter industry.
Speaker 16 (01:31:35):
Yeah, I think it does. But then you know, there's
also a possibility of the I don't know, inclusion of
the the right into the industry in the sense that
I mean, of course there are people who are conservative
in the industry, but once your label is conservative, you know,
(01:31:58):
it could very easily be the block came for you.
But it would be nice if that was just the
focus wasn't on that, you know, because it.
Speaker 8 (01:32:05):
Doesn't exactly it doesn't need to be Bruce Springs.
Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
It's amazing how the industry changed, though. I mean, you
got that that classic.
Speaker 18 (01:32:14):
Yeah rock what a mental patient man, I mean, but
you know, right after World War Two, so many actors,
you know, were veterans and stuff, and they were very
pro American and it's amazing how it's done in one
eighty and in my opinion, we're talking during the break,
I think they spread out.
Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
You know, at first they started with people who might
have been a threat to the government, first responders, military,
et cetera, et cetera. But you, as an actor, they
still went after you. A couple of years later you
got a year sentenced, like a year in prison. But
obviously then the pardon came through, thank God, so you
didn't have to do that. But I mean, God forbid,
if Pamela Harris got in, I think.
Speaker 7 (01:32:53):
You'd have been doing a year and a day, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
And I think so many would be in prison, and they.
Speaker 8 (01:32:57):
Probably they probably would have stuck in to some kind
of a medium security prison that was on lockdown the
whole time.
Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
I it's horrible.
Speaker 8 (01:33:06):
Thank God, Thank God that God, the hand of God
touched Donald Trump in Butler, PA.
Speaker 7 (01:33:14):
Thank God. That's all I be.
Speaker 16 (01:33:16):
That was just unbelievable, absolutely miracle.
Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
Jay's we got.
Speaker 8 (01:33:21):
We gotta drop it, Jay, I want you to stay
with us. First of all, again, Kelly Meggs, thanks.
Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
For introducing follow Him the Cats, the Underscore Cats. Underscore
me out with three ws all right.
Speaker 8 (01:33:33):
Every show we close with the most beautiful national anthem
ever sung. Jay, And as a Jay six er, you
need to be here with us, gentlemen, Hats off, ladies,
and gentlemen, hands over your hearts.
Speaker 7 (01:33:46):
We'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 8 (01:33:47):
And thank you for trusting us with two hours of
your valuable time.
Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Jay. We appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
God bless you, appreciate Thank you, and.
Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
Er what.
Speaker 13 (01:34:20):
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of.
Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
America, who dries and riding.
Speaker 14 (01:34:34):
Your girl
Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, One
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nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
The doll.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And and look at her and in.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And welcome to the cowboy logic everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
He's yes, nice beaver, Donna.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
You know they are actually the actual beavers that live
in the property behind us are just destroying this guy's property.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
There's like a fifteen acre lake.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
In the last couple of years they have they have,
you know, damned up the whole damn thing. And no
pun intended, those damn beavers, damp beavers.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, okay, we're doing.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Something different this week, guys and gals.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
Uh, Normally we do headlines and Ron and I do
everything we can to stay awake during Donna's headlines.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So mean to me.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're not gang up on.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
We don't gang up on you. We're very nice. We're loving.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Right, We've got a guess that Donna and I are
very excited about.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
And Donna has been trying to figure out.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
A way to get him on for last time we
had him on here was he has actually one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, he and Charles Ortel, I'm talking about Jason Goodman
and a gentleman named Charles Ortel have a Sunday with
Charles and it is a Sunday podcast broadcast that they've
been doing. I think we're going on eight or nine
years ago though, since we had the two of them
on together to talk about it. So let's bring Jason
(02:25):
on right now, because Jason is doing great work.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Brother Jason, good well, thanks, Okay.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Now, Charles lives out of the country now, so with
the time difference, it's a problem. But the problem is
that Jason has found I should say, the solution that
Jason has found is just some great information on his
own in crowdsourcethtruth dot org is his website or you
can follow him there at jg Underscore c STT as
(02:53):
in crowdsource the Truth. Okay, what we need to tell
you about is years ago you guys talk about a
company called ran Backsey that we feel has basically morphed
into Remdesevir, which was used for COVID. But now Jason
has been doing some great stuff as far as child trafficking.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He's I mean, watching your stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
You go up to people who are obviously illegal holding
children right there in front of hotels in New York
City asking them is the child their child? I mean,
it's amazing stuff. And we'll get to that in a minute.
But the bigger stuff that you have found now is
what is going on with the mortgage fraud with so
many politicians and people behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So Jason, I mean, I have this book.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I actually watched a couple of your interviews, one that
you did with Roger Stone about a week and a
half ago, which was awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I took notes. But there's so much changing so fast,
so I'm just going to let you have at it.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Let's start with Adam Schiff and the fact that he's
going against Ed Martin Eagle ed Martin in DC. And
there's a reason for that because Shifty Shift can't be
in two places at one time, can he.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well, they could put him in jail and then he'd
be in the one place that he needs to be.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
But I did notice that he.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Was trying to block the Senate confirmation of Adam Schiff,
and I found that very curious. Sorry of Ed Martin.
Schiff blocked the Senate confirmation of Ed Martin. And then
we started looking at Adam Shift's property records. You know,
I was really inspired to look into this after Sam
Antar and Joel Gilbert did their great research into the
(04:34):
New York Attorney General Letitia James. And it's funny because
you know, you mentioned Charles, and he really has taught
me so much. I have no financial background whatsoever. I
was in Hollywood doing visual effects in three D movies,
and I've learned so much from the eight years of
working with Charles about nonprofit fraud and.
Speaker 9 (04:54):
Various things like that.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
So when I heard about this research that Sam had done,
I started looking at acres and I got into some
of this fraud information and started putting things out on
X and somebody emailed me and say, hey, look at this.
Adam Schiff has a mortgage problem. And it was sort
of a vague article. I mean, it was a good article,
(05:16):
but it didn't go into the kind of detail that
we really needed to develop an indictment and eventually charge them.
So I started looking into some of the allegations in
the article, and luckily Maryland, where the property in question was,
does have an open records database. Some states and even
various counties within some states, don't allow public access to
(05:39):
these records, but they really should, as I've been more
speaking to mortgage experts and things like that. Reason that
it's public information is that it's alone right.
Speaker 9 (05:52):
So it's a weird thing.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You feel like it should be private, But there's this
promissory note deal. People who know about mortgages will know
why it's public. But the point is you can go
right into this database and see when people refinance their
homes the amounts.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
In Adam Shift's case, he's declared.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
This Maryland home as his primary residence and he's been
doing that since two thousand and three, for seventeen years now.
In twenty twenty, he cured the defect by filing a
second home rider. But I think, I mean, look, I'm
not an attorney. It's important that your viewers realize everything
that I say here is my opinion. Nothing is legal advice.
(06:35):
Whatever I say does not reflect on Donna and Donna.
But in my opinion, Adam Schiff was lying when he
did that, and it was this is evidence that he
knew that he was lying the whole entire time. This
is not some guy you know who's working at a
restaurant or producing a podcast. He's a lawyer and he's
(06:56):
in Congress. He has to know how these things work.
And also so he didn't use a real estate attorney.
I'm sure you know any one of us go and
get a mortgage, you're going to bring an attorney.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
They're going to read the document.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
You have your real estate attorney who's involved in the
closing and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
But Adam Shift didn't do that, and he's not unique
in this.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I've begun to identify what I've called a lawfare network,
and initially I'm starting with members of Congress who just
coincidentally happened to be lawyers as well. I didn't seek
out congressional lawyers. It's just everybody who's doing this so
far is a lawyer. So one of the components is
they don't need a lawyer with them when they disagreement.
(07:40):
And you know, if you had a lawyer, they might
tell you, hey, wait a minute, mister Shift, you're running
for Congress in California. You can't declare this as your
primary home because then you'll be disqualified from being a
congressional representative in California. But by eliminating that lawyer, Adam
Shift could just do whatever he wants.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Tell the lender, hey, I'm a lawyer, don't worry.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And basically what he's done is he's put himself into
a bind here because if he was being honest on
the loan application, on the mortgage agreement, well, then he's
committed fraud when he ran for Congress in California. And
if he was being honest when he applied to run
for Congress in California, then he's confirmed that he's committed
mortgage fraud on this document. Now, in twenty twenty, that's
(08:26):
when some of these stories started coming out. I've just
learned this actually since the interview with Rogers on people
have been contacting me. There's new information coming out every day.
But it does seem that the second home Rider was
an effort by Adam Schiff to cure the defects in
the document in anticipation that people find anything out. But
(08:47):
I think he's actually just given us more evidence of
what he's done.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
It's proof of a guilty conscience.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
Jason, let me ask you this, and we've only got
about two minutes. We're gonna have to go to the
first break with you, but we're going to have you, guys,
guys and gals. We're going to have him for the
whole hour. Jason, you mentioned a moment ago that if
he had a real estate lawyer, that the real estate
lawyer might go to the lender and go, hey, something's
not adding up here. Here's the thing. There's nobody in
(09:16):
real estate that's selling property in Maryland or District of
Columbia or Northern Virginia that doesn't know who Adam Shift is.
So his his his real estate. You know, the the
lender knows what's going on. Have you started to follow
the money trail and the connection between Shift and the
lending agency that's doing this, knowing full well that Shift
(09:41):
can't do this.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Underwriters should find this.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean, you know, just to be clear, I'm
not attempting to prosecute Adam Shift or you know, prove
beyond a reasonable doubt that he's committed crimes. What I'm
attempting to do is gather evidence sufficient to make an
indict and I'm conveying that evidence to get I believe
I get that.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
But what's the connection between Shifts and the lender? Because
when we get back from the break, we're going to
talk about some of the things also and you may
have covered this that's going on with regard to cartel
money and mortgages. Yeah, because if you follow that money
trail with Shift, you know, Shift doesn't want these uh,
(10:26):
these illegals out of the country either.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Gee Sanders suddenly got a six hundred thousand dollars house
after he dropped out of the Reason twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
This has been going on for a long time, going
on for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
But you mentioned so many other people possibly that I mean,
and these are Rico statute violations too, So all this
is just insane. So all right, we're going to bring
you back after the break. Jason Goodman again at JG
underscore CSTT as in crowdsource the Truth or crowdsource Thetruth
dot org following flee.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You will not be disappointed that the more after that.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Jason Goodman Crowdsource Thetruth dot org and JG underscore c
STT as in crowdsource the Truth Again. He digs deep
in the weeds and he's done some great stuff. We're
talking people like Andrew Weizman, Norm eisen Tis, James, Jamie Raskin,
Adam Schiff. All these people seem to be using.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Everybody that wants to put Trump in prison. Yes, isn't
that weird? Ja, That's so weird.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
So the thing is with Adam Schiff.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Now years ago he conspired with CIA director John Brennan
to overthrow the US government, in my opinion, in twenty sixteen.
Then he allegedly conspired with Mike Pampeo. James O'Keeffe of OMG,
of course, has brought a lot of this stuff out.
They framed General Flynn and George Papadopolis. Brennan, a lot
of people don't realize, converted to Islam when he was
(13:11):
living in the Middle East, and he speaks fluent Arabic,
just so you know, But Donald J.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
John Brennan walks like he's such a superior human being.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I want to know if he's speaking to the rest
of us.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Honestly, with all this coming out, I want to know
if he's still in the United States.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That would be something to look into.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But the thing with Schiff, obviously, with what he's done
with Brennan, he can't let ed Martin get in there.
They don't actually have to confirm ed Martin's position, but
they're trying to make it so they have to because
obviously he's in cya mode. You have to have your
primary residence in California, where you're now a senator so
the statute of limitations, I'm assuming is now not over
(13:52):
for these particular situations. And they always say that your
primary residence is most important because answers are you'll take
care of it a little better. So he had one
in Maryland, he had one in California.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Just give us a good day.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Wait a minute, did he have one primary residence in
Maryland and a primary residence in California?
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Nodo primary, It.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Was just a Maryland was the primary. We'd have to
look into that detail. I mean, it's an improper filing
on the second home in Maryland by declaring it as
a primary home. I don't think he also declared California
the primary home. It's just that created the conflict with
running for congress, right, and he tried to cure it
in twenty twenty, I think because these stories started.
Speaker 9 (14:43):
To come out. But there's a lot of things that
he did with that mortgage.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
You know, he first of all, he might not have
been able to even get the mortgage if he hadn't
declared the thing as his primary home.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
So it's it's not a small deal. This is mortgage fraud.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
And I mean these are as you said, all the
people prosecuting Donald Trump, but yet they are the fraudsters.
Even after eight years of trying to get Trump, they
haven't been able to make anything stick. And I love
it how Democrats say, well, that's because Trump is corrupt,
not because they're trying to bring fake charges against him.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
But there's more going on with these mortgages.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Because somebody else told me that this is like a
primary way to do money laundering. And they explain to
me that the bank doesn't track or care who pays
for the mortgage.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
They just record the payment was made.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And so what someone could do is they hif I
do a check for two hundred thousand bucks, because that's bribery.
But if you go to the bank and refinance your
house for two hundred thousand, we'll just pay your mortgage
and the bank won't check and nobody will really know.
And so it's possible that something like that happening. I
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don't have direct evidence that that has happened, but there's
a really large number of refinances going on on Adam
Shift's home, Jamie Raskin's home. The other people will say, hey,
there's a lot of reasons that people might refinance their homes.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
You at a better rate.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
You're needing money, whatever it might be, but at a
certain point, the cost of the refinancing it negates.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
If you're dealing legitimately.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You know, if somebody else is paying the mortgage, all
these calculations go out the window.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
But a regular person doesn't.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Refinance their home five times and twenty years usually because it's.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
Just the cost. It doesn't make sense that much. But
there's a lot of other things going on.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Signatures where they shouldn't be, the serial pattern of multiple
people miss and those people being attorneys, making it extremely
unlikely that these are mistakes.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
And also the similarities. You know, Letitia James.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Has mortgage fraud issues, Adam Schiff has mortgage fraud issues.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You brought up. Andrew Weisman, he's one of the best ones.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He can.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You go through that a little bit because he got
is he the one with the first Republic Bank which went.
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Under it exactly?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Okay, talk about that.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Weisman's huge he is he was the FBI General Counsel.
What's arted his career his government career as a prosecutor,
an assistant US attorney in the Eastern District of New York.
Now that's the same US Attorney's Office, where we get
Pearl Howell who is now a US District Court judge
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in Washington, d C. Loretta Lynch King Attorney General under Obama.
After our holder, we've got deranged Jack Smith coming out
of the Eastern District of New York, and my favorite
US District Court judge, Valerie Caproni, who I allege is
the queen Bee of this lawfare network. Kaproni was the
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FBI General Counsel just prior to Weisman, and Andrew Weissman
was Caprony's apprentice in the Eastern District of New York,
in charge of the Organized Crime Division of the US
Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of New York. Weisman
was directly under her, and they credit themselves with taking
out the mafia in New York, the Colombo crime or
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I think it was the Colombo crime family. But they
are also very involved with this guy named Felix Sator.
Do you guys remember the name Felix la Yes, he
was the nation real estate developer. He was the Russian
real estate developer, Russian American real estate developer behind Trump
Tower Moscow. And he was the guy whose emails came
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out in the Stormy Daniels trial. He's emailing Michael Cohen saying, Hey,
we got to get our boy to Moscow. I'm going
to introduce him to Putin and we're going to have
Vivanka sit on Putin's throne or some ridiculous emails that
Felix Sator is sending.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
But of course anybody can send an email.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
There is no evidence at all that Felix Sator knows
or has the ability to introduce anybody to Putin. In
my opinion, he's just injecting these crazy emails to use
at this lawfair trial with Michael Cohen. And here's an
interesting detail because remember Letitia James was all over that case.
She's the one who, with Alvin Bragg, brought this insane
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novel legal theory where we're going to resurrect state statues
and combine them with federal statutes and misdemeanors and felonies,
all this nutty stuff that they did. But Michael Cohen
testified in that trial that he paid Stormy Daniels one
hundred and thirty thousand dollars of his own money because
he didn't want to tell Trump. He wanted to make
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this problem go away so that he could be Trump's
fixer because he wanted to be the Attorney general or
the White House counsel or something like that. And when
I heard that, I had presumed that Michael Cohen had
some property other than his I think he's got like
a three or a four million dollar condo in a
Trump Tower Park avenue that we had heard about before,
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but that was known to be matal property.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Him and his wife lived there.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
So when he got this one hundred and thirty thousand keylock,
I presumed he had maybe an apartment from before they
got married, or a ski cabin or a hunting cabin
or something that he could only get one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars loan against. But I've learned that I
was incorrect. He got a five hundred thousand dollars home
equity line of credit while he was under investigation by
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the FBI, and he would have had to tell the bank, oh,
excuse me. And it was against the marital property as
collateral without his wife's signature, So that's mortgage fraud right there.
He could just take all that money, zip out of
town and saddle his wife with the debt lever forever.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
You can't do that.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
You can't take out a loan on marital property without
the co signature of the of the co owner.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
And forget the banker.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
But I'm sure the bank officer says them, well, mister Cohen,
it's all right.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
You're probably rise your wife for the intern on the house. Right.
Oh no, I'm giving this money to a hooker.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Okay, here's your Well, maybe he's got shifts lender, maybe
he knows shifts lending.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
But Republic Bank first Republic Banks.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Which went under and JP Morgan took it all right,
here's the thing. This is happening all over.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Liz Harris found this out in Arizona and a lot
of money came through the cartels. That's why suddenly it's
amazing how Carrie Lake loses two elections even though Trump
wins Arizona by a huge amount. I mean, things are
just so insane everywhere. So this is this is how,
in my opinion, obviously they're paying people off act Blue
(21:39):
coming into this now is Trump is going to look
into that.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Who knows what that's going to do.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But you have let me see, Norm Eisen, we haven't
gotten James Public Bank.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
Less than a minute, yeah, thirty seconds, okay, but it's
important because the Republic Bank goes into FDIC receivership five
days after they give Andrew Weisman a one million dollar
long A bank definitely knew that was going to happen Weisman,
it would seem new.
Speaker 9 (22:04):
And the question becomes is this bank and intelligence cut out?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Mm hmm and wait, and there's more to that too,
So we'll get to that after the break, because he
apparently got.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Give us a t though, give us a from you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I learned it from watching.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I know, I know there's more to it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's a fixed loan that he suddenly got by a
bank that supposedly is going under right, it's just insane.
More with Jason Goodman again, Folks, please follow med JG
underscored crowdsource the Truth. Oh what a tangled web we're
trying to unweave right here, because this is how all
this money and all these people become multi millionaires.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
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Welcome back to Cowboy Logic. Everybody follow the money trail.
We've been talking about that. I think we're in our thirteenth,
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Speaker 7 (25:40):
All right, Hey, you know we've been talking about whit'sman.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Here and it is so unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I'm sure he's got some friends in his circle, but
I don't know how many, because he's been in the
he's been in our orbit here for over a decade.
You know, Sidney Powell wrote a book Licensed to Lie.
He was one of the main main schlub characters in that.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
That was written eleven years ago. It's all the same people.
They're still there. So let's bring Jason Goodman back on.
Andrew Weizman, though he got a real sweetheart deal in real.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Estate more recently.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I mean Weisman, like you say, was the prosecutor and
the Moler investigation as well, tight with Jack Smith, who
worked in the Southern District in New York.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean, these people are.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So dirty, it's unbelievable how they get away with this.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, well they were in the Eastern District of New York.
It is closely associated with the Southern District of New York.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
And it's just totally corrupt.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
One more mortgage is one of the worst that I've evaluated.
So what happened with him is in twenty twenty three,
he purchased two sort of adjoining condominium apartments in a
very premium Tribeca building, seven point five million dollar real
estate deal that he go a loan from First Republic
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Bank five days before it went into FDIC receivership became
totally insolvent. He got a loan for a million dollars
and it just does not seem plausible to me that
a bank would do that. I think they would know
that they were going to fail more than five days
before it happens, and they would not give out any loans.
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But the loan that Weisman got is particularly strange. It's
a thirty year jumbo arm, so it's an adjustable rate
mortgage that starts out at four point nine five percent
but can go up as high as ten or eleven percent.
And when the takeover happened, when the Treasury Department forced
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basically JP Morgan Chase to take over the failed bank,
the loan was transferred directly from First Republic to Chase
and it was locked in for ten years at four
point nine to five percent. Now I don't I've never
done on a seven point five million dollar real estate deal,
but it sounds kind of non standard to me to
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have less than twenty percent of the total to put down.
I don't understand why they would give you such a
favorable rate. I mean, in my opinion, that favorable rate
is achieved by putting maybe fifty percent. You know, you
put more down and demonstrate that you have a lot
of money and are a low risk for the bank.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
That's when they give you a more favorable rate, not when.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You don't even have twenty percent to put down, so
that was strange. But there's no record of where the
rest of this, you know, the six and a half million,
where did that come from?
Speaker 9 (28:38):
We don't know. It's possible this whole thing was given
to him.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
And the part of all of it is that he's
doing this transaction with a guy named Leonard Toberoff, who
is a known, allegedly criminal associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Now again,
if we're broadcasters, if we're you know, working people with
regular jobs, and you know, we don't know everything about
every organized criminal in New York City, but the three
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of us were not the general counsel of the FBI
and the lead prosecutor in the Organized Crime Division.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Of the Eastern District of New York US Attorney's Office.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
In my view, it's absurd that Weisman didn't know that
this guy was involved in the Towers financial scandal and
involved with Epstein and that.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
Guy Hoffenberg and the Penwaltz scandal.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
It's the whole thing just reeks, and I think we
need an investigation into these people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
That might be why Pam Bondi's taking so much time,
because they really have to look so closely, so you
spoke about Epstein indirectly. Now there is a person named
John Roberts on Epstein's list, supposedly Now they don't know
if it's the same one or not.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It could be a very common name.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
But Norm Eisen, who was the ambassador to the Czech
Republic at the time, he has this big mansion that
he can use or castle that he's able to live in,
entertained John Roberts over there as well, and Norm Eisen
has some problems with mortgages.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yes, well, we heard that directly from Norm Issen, that
John Roberts had had come to visit him and stay
with him for a week or two when he was
the ambassador to the Czech Republic. The thing that struck
me about that is that from the Hunter Biden laptop
an email came out I think it was I don't remember.
It was from Devin Archer or one of those guys
emailing Hunter Biden saying, ooh, norm has just become the
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ambassador for the Czech Republic.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
Let's go visit him. And I mean, I've never been.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
To the Czech Republic, but what do they have going
on over there? Like child hookers or something like? Why
does Hunter Biden want to go there. Why is John
Roberts there? Why is John Roberts there for a week.
Isn't he supposed to be working in the Supreme Court.
I mean, I guess these guys can take vacations, but
you're right, it's very weird. Now, norm I've just started
to look into with the mortgages, and he owns two
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kind of like slumlord rental properties in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
One of them is I don't have the information in
front of me right now.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
It is either or seventeen units, and it's one of
these kind of like press board and stucco buildings, like
a really kind of slumlord kind of building. And I
wasn't able to get to the mortgages on those because
it was in a county in Los Angeles where they
wanted me to fill out this whole form about why
do you need this information, et cetera. So I just
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moved on to some of the other things I was
able to investigate that I could download in real time.
And he had an apartment in Washington, d C. There
was some screwy business there. It wasn't as bad as
the others, but I wanted to look at those other
two apartments in Los Angeles. And again, I'm just starting
this investigation. It's only a little well a week or
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two that I've been working on it.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
So we're just scratching the surface.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
And what is happening is people who are seeing it
are contacting me, Like I said, mortgage experts, real estate
brokers and people who know about this stuff. They know
the tricks, they know what's supposed to be there, what's
not supposed to be there. For instance, there was one
thing in Jamie Raskin's mortgage where there was a zero
dollar deed where him and his wife transferred it to themselves,
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and so some you know, real estate people had contacted
me and said that that could be normal for a
variety of different reasons.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
And I can see that it could be.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
But the issue is there's so much smoke around this
that there there really does seem to be a fire.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, with Weisman, where did the six point five million go?
Speaker 9 (32:27):
You know, like where they must have been able to go?
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And Janettel Janet.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
Janet money laundering. Let's just go down the road of
money laundering for a moment.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
So tell money laundering, Right, So you got all this
money and you know, let's say, Okay, you buy this
apartment in New York City through some kind of complicated
mortgage thing put together by a lawyer that I can't understand,
and now you've got this kind of criminal owning this property. Well,
what are we going to do with a seven point
five million dollar property in New York City? I think
you could rent that for probably twenty five thousand bucks
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a month. You can't really do that if you're going
to the real estate company and saying, hey, send the
money to the Cineloa cartel. You could do that if
you're Andrew Weisman. Makes sense that a fancy rich lawyer
owns this apartment. He goes to Compass Realty and they say, oh, sure,
mister Weisman will rent your apartment for you. Now he's
getting rental income twenty five thousand a month.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
Does he go meet to.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Cineloa at the Mexican restaurant with a garbage bag full
of ten thousand dollars every month and split the rental revenue?
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I'm just saying there's a lot of I don't know
about money laundering because I'm not a criminal. But Andrew
Weissman does. He's been prosecuting complex fraud for thirty years.
I bet you he knows about a lot of schemes.
And back to Valerie Caproni, his mentor.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
Well, she was.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
The head of the Organized Crime Division in the Eastern
District of New York. Then went to the SEC, where
what she did there is pretty unknown, but largely credited
as increasing their enforcement capabilities and interactions with other federal
agencies like the FBI. Then she came back and she
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became the General Counsel of the FBI and mes a
US District Court judge. So we've got people in this
lawfare loan scam and this lawfare network from the executive
branch Andrew Weisman and Caproni when they were in the FBI,
the legislative branch with.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
A Shift and Raskin.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
And the judicial with Caproni now as a judge. So
they've basically penetrated, permeated, and destroyed the separation of powers.
And in my opinion, they have decimated the constitutional Republic
of the United States of America.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
And hold on, hold on, we've got to go to break.
We got a heart out here. Yeah, that is huge,
that's very huge, Ladies and gentlemen, We got one more
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Speaker 5 (36:17):
With Jason Goodman of Crowdsource the Truth dot org and
again find nice lid.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
You got there?
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Man, We saw that in the background. That's pretty cool.
Bullets digging.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
That made you put the hat on. I mean, we're
Cowboy Logic. You gotta have to. Even though I know
you're New York, it is appropriate.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
So at JG underscore CSTT as in Crowdsource the Truth.
All right, so many, I mean we're talking shift might
be in deep shift. We're talking uh, you know, James
Antar looking into the real estate laundering of Tiss James.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
He did some great stuff there.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
You've got Liz Harris out in Arizona looking at the lawmakers.
They are doing a lot of stuff with Cartels and Jason.
What you have found is just I mean, you've got
so many different people. The one person we really didn't
look into enough is little Jamie Raskin. He's another one
that doesn't want Ed Martin in there. Talk a little
bit about what little Jamie Raskin. He took out two loans,
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no sign he ever paid him back.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah, I mean, there's all kinds of really questionable activity.
Now again, it's a lot of it is done in
a way that some people will say, oh, well maybe
this reason, maybe that reason, But that's called plausible deniability.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
Again, these guys are attorneys.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
They're not walking into the bank with a gun and
saying give me.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
All the money.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
The way this works is it's a complicated scheme that
even when it's right in front of you, it's difficult
to figure out. So everything I'm saying is this is
not conclusions. This is evidence. And again my purpose here
is to sort of serfce enough evidence to enable an indictment.
I believe that is what Ed Martin wants to do.
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That's what a US attorney does. They indict people and
then you have a trial. Now, again, this is the
Lawfare network, and as we just said in the last segment,
I see evidence that it has permeated the district courts.
So you know, I'm not I don't know what will
happen if they do get indicted and get into court.
It becomes a whole separate problem. But I'm just trying
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to map this out and help people understand. As we said,
we've got people judges or involved congress people.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
It's an incredibly difficult problem.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Well, if they get into court, they have nothing to
worry about. That's the that's the problem. If they get
into court, they're going to have any of these liberal
district judges.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
That are going to, you know, dismiss the case.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But this is.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Right, This is Don is right. Say that against a
couple of times for US.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Don is so right. I can't even say it enough times,
because let's let's play this out. Let's say and Weisman
gets indicted and he's up on trial in Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Well, who's going to be.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
The judge.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Right, James Boseburg.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
I mean they have these jurisdictions captured so that they
can't there.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Yeah, exactly, exactly right now. Now, I'm going to ask
the question.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
I'm going to ask a question, and I want to
see if both of you guys can answer this thing.
Does Trump have the ability to vacate the seats of
the d C District courts?
Speaker 9 (39:36):
I don't believe so. No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I think the Congress could abolish the district does not
take away the judgeships of the appointed judges.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
They would, I think, be impelled there. I think they would.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Both to reconse they cannot disjudge. They could get rid
of the district court and calls to some district court
in Virginia or Maryland or whatever. Those judges would have
to be reassigned. And you can't just arbit really fire judges.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
But espinally, we've struck a nerve with Elon because you've
got starlink and something weird is going on.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think the hat is causing is causing the shot.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
No, but I heard no, it's okay, but I had
heard that Scotus is the only you know, the Supreme
Court is the only thing that is constitutional. These other
judges can I mean, these courts, these lower courts can
just be disbanded.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
But that's something we need to look into.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
But I just can, but the judges can't. Is my understanding.
I'm not a lawyer. We need to ask a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Okay, now let's get into let's ask Andrew Weissman.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
The whole thing really the norm.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
But all this goes back to, like the whole mortgage
problems and the collapse of the economy in two thousand
and seven to two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Janet Yellen used Janet Yelling knew that was.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Paid fifteen point six billion dollars to bail out First
Republic Bank. And nobody's been punished with that one, you know,
with the FED chair and all that other stuff. But
with Jamie Rask and you have two different lenders, Barnett
Mortgage Company and First Federal of Rochester, and they erased
all the debt without any explanation.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I mean, this is just so.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Forgetting I'm forgetting all the details. But you're right, that's
what I'm saying. Each of these things need to be
looked into. So this is, as I said, evidence, and
so I know, people get onto Twitter and they tell me,
or they get into X and they tell me, oh,
you haven't proven anything, babbah. But see, I'm not trying
to prosecute these people. I'm not trying to prove that
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he did these things. I'm trying to point to evidence
of crime, and that is what we need to Indeed,
people have.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
Heard the phrase that you can indict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
What they are trying to say is the bar leaving
indictment is low, Unlike convicting someone, where you need to
prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. To indict someone, you
just in panel a grand jury and you're asking them,
does this seem like sufficient evidence to charge the person
with a crime.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
We're not asking whether they're guilty or not.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
We're just asking should we start bringing this person into court,
asking them qunder oath, subpoenaing bank records, finding out who
paid these mortgages.
Speaker 9 (42:30):
Maybe these people are innocent.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Maybe they're going to be able to present evidence that
shows that all of this was on the up and up.
And I just don't know how to read a mortgage.
I would be surprised if that happened. But everybody is innocent.
Until proven guilty. I am trying to assemble sufficient information
to indict various individuals that I see are very interconnected
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in terms of the schemes that they're doing to try
to nail Donald Trump. And they all seem to be
getting similar types of loans from similar types of lenders
and other.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
Point as we can then shift particularly.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
All right, listen, while he's dropped, I want to hold
on secondation dropped out.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
You dropped out a little bit.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
I want to remind everything you said a very important
statement just a minute ago. Everybody's innocent until proven guilty,
with the exception of our beloved Jay Sexers of course, yes.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
And and Donald Truce. That's you know what Jason's trying
to do. He's trying to crowdsource the truth. That's what
he's doing.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Elon Musk is getting in the way of things.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
That's what happens with works really well, should well, this is.
Speaker 8 (43:42):
Okay, I got a couple of minutes left. We got
a couple of minutes left. We'll get through it. We'll
get there.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And folks, so let me just wrap this up.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
This this idea about the low amount of money that
they're saving. Jamie Raskin and Adam Shift. They saved maybe
one hundred or two hundred dollars a month on the mortgage.
And I just don't find it plausible that lawyer and
a congress person would risk their entire public reputation and
all that stuff for such a low incentive. I think
this is an initiation into a lawfare network where now
(44:12):
we have all this documented proof and evidence of these
guys committing for committing stuff over there's it seems like
not this collateral against them where they say, hey, Shift,
we need you to convince the world that Donald Trump
is a Russian agent. I can't do that. It's facian.
Oh we don't want anybody to find out about all
(44:33):
these mortgages, do we.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
So it's like, this is your jaciation Jason.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
Jason, Jason, look at their spouses, look at their families.
In many cases, if these guys are realizing one hundred
or a two hundred dollars difference in their mortgage, a
game te.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
That the family are the ones that are benefiting.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
And you have that with so many of the judges
as well. I mean, it's really insane. You got about
a minute left. You want to just wrap things up here, Jason,
and by the way, folks, if you go to his website,
you see a lot of things that he's done also
with child trafficking in the New York City area.
Speaker 9 (45:10):
And exposing it, not doing it, no.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Exposing it and all different.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
You know, you were also there, you went, and you've
looked into the situation of Butler Pennsylvania as well, so
you're working in many different areas there you go.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Yeah, well, the child trafficking thing is particularly interesting because
that was at the Walcott Hotel. And of course Eric
Adams is another guy who owns a multi.
Speaker 9 (45:35):
Unit apartment building I think in Brooklyn. How did he
afford that?
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Real estate tax is incredibly high in New York City
maintenance on a property like that. This guy was a
cop city council. How can he afford a multi unit
apartment building. It seems like there are a lot of
politicians and people in the government and the FBI and
things like that who have this wealth that doesn't quite
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make sense.
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Meanwhile, all the rest.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Of aoc is worth.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Ac is worth eight million dollars.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
Look at the family, look at that little no boyfriend exactly.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Unfortunately, Jason, we are out of time.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Jason truth again Crowdsourcethetruth dot Org and that's what he
essentially he's doing, Ladies and gentlemen, he is crowdsourcing the truth.
You see his stuff, get in touch with him. There's
maybe other things that are going to come of this,
but right now, if you look at this on the outset,
it looks like we've got we are on the edge
of a major exactly JG underscore CSTT as in crowdsource
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the Truth.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Jason Goodman, thank you so much. We'll be back with
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Speaker 1 (52:02):
But I'm watching like the zen Master.
Speaker 13 (52:04):
I'm here, I'm all over the place, but you don't
always see me that much.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
I could tell you, wow.
Speaker 8 (52:11):
Well, we had no idea that you were omnipresent and
that you were there in these born parties with us.
I got to tell you, I'm all of a sudden,
a whole lot more nervous than i've ever been now
that I know you've got the eye on us.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
But you are everywhere. I mean, you were in Rome
and then you were back in you know, the States. However,
a few hours.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Later, and you met with world leaders and possibly have
solved the situation with Ukraine and ending world peace.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Se Well, going to the.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
Post, mister president, were you in a sea of papal mourners?
Speaker 1 (52:50):
But we were in uh. I can tell you.
Speaker 13 (52:52):
We were over at the funeral. I had to sit
down with Zelenski. You saw the picture is just me
and him. They say one and a half men, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
The new television show.
Speaker 13 (53:02):
But you look at it, and I was chewing him
out right. A lot of people were looking and I
was chewing him out. It looked like I was telling him, right,
the coach of a baseball team, you don't slide into
first base?
Speaker 1 (53:12):
What the hell is wrong with you? You don't do that. Now,
we were talking about it. We were talking about it,
and he was looking at me.
Speaker 13 (53:18):
And at the end of it, I said, okay, now
go to your room and don't come out till I
say so. Right, we're taking care of it, right, We're
taking care of it like nobody's ever taken care of
it before. That much, I can tell you right, we're
taking care of the war. The killing is going to stop.
It's going to stop. And we started with that little guy,
and we'll see what happens, but it's going to stop.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Believe me.
Speaker 8 (53:40):
You know.
Speaker 5 (53:41):
Hold on speaking of that little guy, mister President Speaker Johnson,
you seem to like him quite a bit, but he
does tag along at all these MMA fights and other
appearances that you do. But in my humble opinion, he
could actually be doing a little better implementing your your
plans right now in your agenda, he's just not well.
Speaker 13 (54:03):
We could do better, right, And that's why I bring
him to MMA, because I take him and I say,
listen to me, Mike, you see the octagon.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
You don't start passing the agenda.
Speaker 13 (54:12):
You and me are going in the octagon, and we're
going to knock him out, right, We're gonna knock him out.
Remember when Crooked Joe said he wanted to take me
behind the gym, and that never would have worked, right,
you look at him, that never would have worked.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
He could barely get up and down a flight of stairs.
Speaker 13 (54:26):
And we were just at the funeral for the pope
who Crooked Joe knew very well, right, he had a
problem at the Vatican a couple of years ago. A
lot of people say, maybe he dropped something you're not
supposed to drop. I called it operation to Zierol. You
know what I'm talking about, right, You're not supposed to
do that.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
But he did it. And from that point forward, the
Pope knew he.
Speaker 13 (54:46):
Had a problem and everybody knew he had a problem,
but Mike Johnson, he has a problem too, and we're
going to fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
We have to go to work.
Speaker 13 (54:54):
We have to get the big beautiful bill the agenda passed,
and if not, I will be in the octa gun
with him and he will regret that.
Speaker 7 (55:02):
He will regret that.
Speaker 8 (55:04):
Sir Mike Davis, who we've got an enormous amount of
respect with the Article three project, is doing everything he
can to gain inside knowledge of what's going on with
regard to the DOJ. And he's reported on Bannon last
week that he believes after a meeting with Pam Bondy
and with Cash Bettel, that the indictments may follow.
Speaker 7 (55:28):
We are going to see action.
Speaker 8 (55:31):
I would assume you know what's going on, and you're
playing these cards close to your vest.
Speaker 13 (55:35):
Well, we know exactly what's going on. We have a
lot of beautiful indictments. We can't really talk about it,
but I'll tell you a couple. We're looking at, indicting
Stacy Abrams for eating too much. Right, she thinks she's
going to run for governor again. I think she should
just run for something. Maybe go for a walk before
we start running, right, look at Stacy. We'll go to
the dentist too. You look at those teeth. That's a problem.
(55:58):
We're looking at Adam Schiff. He's got a big head
and a pencil neck.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
I call him watermelon head. I call him bug eyes.
Speaker 13 (56:05):
You see the eyes. I call him a pencil neck.
He's going to be indicted right for that watermelon head.
His head is too big, it's way too big. You
look at Nancy Pelosi. She's going to be indicted for
not being able to stand up straight and for spitting
when she talks. So we have a lot of indictments
that are coming right. She can't keep her teeth in
her mouth. I call him missus potato head, because everything's
(56:28):
falling off, the eyebrows, the lips, everything's falling off. So
we're looking at indicting these people. We have to take
care of this and the judges.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
These are all sick. So Mike Davis was there. We
talked to him.
Speaker 13 (56:40):
A very nice guy, handsome guy, right, tremendous guy, smart guy,
and he knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 15 (56:46):
We are.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We're going to take care of these nasty people.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Real quick, mister President. We only have a few minutes left.
Speaker 5 (56:52):
Here, you're suing Perkins Cooey, the big law firm that's
been suing you for god knows how long, and suggesting
that Bowening maybe get a new representation.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
How's that going?
Speaker 1 (57:04):
When you look at Perkins coooy?
Speaker 13 (57:05):
They had the phony dossier Russia Russia Rushia, right, uh,
and it was crooked.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Hillary and all of these people.
Speaker 13 (57:12):
But we're gonna sue the pants off of these people, right,
We're gonna sue the pants and when their pants are off,
we're gonna laugh at them. You know what I'm talking about, Right,
So we're suing them. We're gonna sue them like nobody's
ever seen.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
He's a dirty, disgusting people. You dirty disgusting people.
Speaker 8 (57:28):
Very you hear it, right?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Absolutely dirty, mister President.
Speaker 7 (57:33):
We've got it.
Speaker 8 (57:34):
Could be we've got some static going. Oh cow, we've
actually got Sean Parish in the barn.
Speaker 7 (57:45):
Oh my, what's up, brother Sean Ferrish? Awesome job you
how you doing?
Speaker 8 (57:53):
Man?
Speaker 13 (57:54):
We're doing well, We're doing really well. That was a
lot of fun, I can tell you what. That was
a lot of fun. And uh, it's always you know,
it's always fun when I when I do stuff like
that kind of what how the reveal is going to
take place, and this was by far the most creative.
Speaker 7 (58:08):
So thank you.
Speaker 8 (58:11):
And I got to tell you, ladies and gentlemen. Uh,
you know so much of what Sean did. We asked
him before the interview started. You want us to throw
you some you know, some questions that we're gonna and
he goes, no, I.
Speaker 7 (58:24):
Do better, do better on the fly. Hey, when we get.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
Back from this break with uh with uh, well three
minute break, three minute big Ley, We're going to actually
spend the next whole segment with Sean as Sean.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
And host of Ungoverned on Rumble l f A TV.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
On Rumble Jeremy Harrald's Great Network again he hosts Ungoverned
Sean Farish folks none better as far as really, yeah,
I'm impersonating Donald Trump. I love when you go up
like when you like you go into McDonald's and you
actually order and the people are like, whoa, it sounds
like the president And actually at one point the president
was a McDonald So we'll be back right after this. Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
We still have nothing. It was so much fun the
President Trump.
Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Yeah, that was probably just as good enough.
Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
Really, Although I gotta be honest, if we have President
Trump on the show and he ends up putting a
nice beaver on his head, it's got to be shaped.
It's got to be shaped. Don't ever put a hat
on your head. That's a gift straight out of the box.
It will be an ill fitting beaver.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
We'll make sure you get the hat first in shape.
Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
It Well, yeah, all right, let's get back in with
brother Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
That really was.
Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
I should preface this shown by saying, last time we
had you on was a little day last year called
Jay thirteen.
Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Yep, so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
You know the show was on at six am, so
everybody got to see you. Then it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
But then obviously after President Trump had that assassination attempt,
we got preempted.
Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
I'm on the phone.
Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
I'm on the phone to Parker Sid going, you got
to pull the show. There's no way we can do
this show. You got to run into our show. Whatever
you do preempt us.
Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Well, they didn't have some special programming anyhow. But I mean,
let's hope that doesn't happen again here.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
But this we should have.
Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
We should have you back on more often because it's
just you're so on top of everything, and to do
it with Trump, with Trump's voice is just hilarious again, folks.
He hosts Ungoverned on Jeremy Harrold's network LFA TV. It's
on Rumble and it's on X so please do follow him.
And on social media it's Sean Shawn underscore. You can't
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really see the underscore that well there underscore farish with one.
Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Sean because I don't have my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
So anyhow, Sean, let's get started on a serious note.
Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Watt.
Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
The swatting thing has affected you, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
It has.
Speaker 13 (01:02:12):
About a month and a half ago, my wife and
I were swatted. I had heard about several people, you know,
on our side of the aisle politically, on social media
being swatted that morning, and you know, I was my
wife and I were, you know, we just moved into
a house here. He bought a house in Tennessee, very
excited about it, and we were ripping out an old
chain link fence that was in the yard that we
(01:02:32):
didn't want, and I was tired.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I took a little twenty minute nap.
Speaker 13 (01:02:36):
She comes running into the room, wakes me up, says,
there's cops in our yard with guns. I sat straight
up and I said, all right, we're being swatted. She
didn't know what that meant. She thought it was going
to be like a J six situation, where you know,
they're going to rip us out of the house. I said, no, no, no,
it's not gonna be one of those. But they're going
to be here and it's going to be tense, and
we just have to stay calm.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You know.
Speaker 13 (01:02:56):
They have guns drawn. We can't be jumpy. We don't
want them to be jumpy. We're gonna for instructions. And
what wound up happening is I wound up getting a
phone call rather than them coming and knocking on the door,
I wound up getting a phone call. I just found
out the reason I got the nine one one call
from our sheriff. I was able to get that from them,
(01:03:17):
that the swater had a really bad connection. So they
were like, what's the number I can call you at?
And the swatter gave my number. So they called me
and they said, hey, we got a call that you
shot your parents in the house and that you were
planning on committing suicide by cop.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And I said, well, I am not doing that.
Speaker 13 (01:03:39):
My wife is here with me, and we are willing
to demonstrate anything that we have to demonstrate to show
you that that is not what's going on in this house.
So we came out and they had their guns pointed
and our hands were up. They patted us down. We
had a seat on a neighbor's driveway.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
They cleared the house.
Speaker 13 (01:03:56):
And then you know, we talked about it afterwards, but
not a good experience for us, and by the way
not a good experience for this neighborhood. This is a
quiet neighborhood that we live in in Tennessee, just outside
of Murphysboro, Tennessee. And we heard from several neighbors after
the fact who are on our side politically, thankfully. And
(01:04:19):
I spoke to one of the kids. He's about eight
or nine years old.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
And this is this is really what gets me upset.
Speaker 13 (01:04:24):
Right, Obviously, guns pointed at me, guns pointed out my wife,
guns pointed at our house. You know, we have our
pets in the house. They're still jumpy when a stranger
comes into the house because of that. But outside of
just this house, I spoke to this eight nine year
old kid and I said, you know, what did what
did you do when you saw that happening? And he
said to me, and this really makes me angry, he
(01:04:46):
was hiding under his desk in his room, crying because
he thought he might die. And that to me is
something that you know, you're now picking on a nine
year old. You've terrorized not just me, not just my wife,
not just people in my house, but you've terrorized this
entire neighborhood because they've never seen.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Something like this.
Speaker 13 (01:05:02):
Happen before, and that is why I want these people
caught and charged with domestic terrorism. And from what I understand,
FBI is taking this extremely seriously and will be treating
it as terrorism. But we got to catch them, and
I think we will. I think they will be caught,
but it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
What are some of the hurdles you and I were
talking or we were talking about some of the hurdles
that that they mask themselves with when they're doing this,
Because I know that Donna and I have taken a
proactive step toward what would happen, God forbid if we
were swatted, and we've already contacted our sheriff's department, So
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anybody planning on swatting us, they know already and we've
got we've got a plan in place, and we talked
about that, Sean. But what are some of the things
that these swatters are doing that are masking their identity
because you know, we try to use the analogy of
JA six.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Yeah, they found them in a nanosecond. They had four
or five hundred of them arrested by this time in
the Trump regime. But you say it's a little different
now with their phones.
Speaker 13 (01:06:09):
Yeah, it's definitely different because you think of the mind.
You know, I was present at January sixth. I wasn't
at the capital like in the Capitol, but I was.
I was at the protest.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
We were there.
Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
Obviously, you know, you're thinking everything you're doing, it's covered
by the First Amendment. So there's no reason to conceal
your identity, there's no reason to conceal your location, there's
no reason to throw up a VPN, none of that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
These people who.
Speaker 13 (01:06:30):
Are calling in these false SWAT calls, no going into
the operation that they're breaking the law, right that is
already a crime. So they're taking several steps to make
sure that you know, they're not tracked, they're not found,
they don't know the location that they're using either a
burner phone or you know, their phone number is being
masked by several layers of protection. And look, I'm all
(01:06:51):
for Internet privacy.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I have a VPN.
Speaker 13 (01:06:53):
I use it when I'm in airports or public places
because I don't want my identity stolen. I don't want
any of my passwords stolen on anything of mind getting hacked. Right,
So I even have some of these apps that most
likely you know whoever is calling in these false calls
are using and you can very very easily mask your location,
your IP address, you know your identity by using apps
(01:07:14):
that are not that expensive and programs that are not
that expensive. And so you know, the JA sixers who
were found, they were found because essentially they didn't think
they were doing anything, no reason to hide, right, people
with nothing to hide hide nothing, And a lot of
the JA sixers weren't doing something wrong. But these swatters
are doing something wrong, and they know that going in.
They don't want to be found. They're afraid of being found,
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so they've taken the proactive steps beforehand to make it
harder to be found. That's not to say that the
onion can't be peeled back and they won't be found,
but it is far more complicated than saying, all right,
somebody's phone was at the Capitol on January sixth, Get
the carrier, get the account holder.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Get the address, go get them.
Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
This is going to be.
Speaker 13 (01:07:52):
One of those things where right like our sheriffs told us,
this was a Google Voice call out of California. Now,
does that mean that this person was in or did
they sign up for a Google Voice number with a
California area code and send their location there when they
could be anywhere.
Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
Right.
Speaker 13 (01:08:08):
So we don't know where these people came from, and
it's gonna be very hard to find them. But I
will say this, and I know the pace has been
frustrating for a lot of people. You know, we talked
about Mike Davis with the quote unquote President. I will
say this new leadership at the FBI, Cash Bettel, Dan Bongino,
I have a heck of a lot more faith that
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those men and their FBI are going to track down
these people than I would if it was Christopher Ray
and Andy McCabe and the rest of those swampy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So I think they will be caught.
Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
I think they will be brought to justice, and I
think they're going to get everything in the kitchen seeing
thrown again thrown at them to make sure that they're
held fully and completely accountable for not just what they
did to us, all of us who've been swatted, but
the neighborhoods and the children and other people in general.
It's not acceptable should be treated as terrorism.
Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
You know, a cat turd was swatted four times, MTG
multiple times. Cryl Atkinson just watted recently. It really is insane.
Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Luckily where we are there's only cows and a few
other horses.
Speaker 8 (01:09:06):
No, I remember ten plus years ago when all we
were doing was radio and we had one of our
co hosts get swatted up in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
You remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Yep, that's true. All right.
Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
So let's get back to some serious stuff now that
we only have a minute and a half left. How
are you going to Mala make America laugh again? What
you're working on?
Speaker 13 (01:09:27):
Well, yeah, there's a couple of cool ideas that I've got,
maybe delving into song parodies.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
We'll see.
Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
I haven't done it yet. I've been kind of thinking
about it, but you know, Kilmar Brigo Garcia, some of
these radical judges, and just the overall behavior of the left,
there's plenty of material, right, So making America laugh through
the crazy times that we're in I think is important.
Excited to do it, and everything I do is going
to be out on social media and you know you
(01:09:56):
can follow me there, but I hope to have you
laughing along.
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Do you know?
Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
It's so amazing to me that what now with these
three judges at this point that have been arrested, how
the leftist media says see where you know, Donald Trump's
arresting all the.
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
People that you know he can't stand. Yeah, meanwhile, what yeah,
he's a fascist. It's it's so upside down, it's just insanity.
Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
So Sean, tell everybody where everybody can find you and
the great stuff that you do.
Speaker 14 (01:10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (01:10:25):
So that's on social media, Sean sah w N underscore
faar a s h all the links to shows, podcasts, websites, interviews,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
It's all there.
Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
I'm mostly active on x but I always post a
link to my show on Getter. I know you have
a huge presence over on Getter, so you can follow
me there. Sah w N underscore fa r a s
h uh. And it's the best way to follow and
find what I'm doing for you.
Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
You are appointment Television brother.
Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Absolutely on LFA TV again on x N Rumble Sean Farriss,
thank you so much much.
Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
We'll be back with more Cowboy Live. Well, let's get down.
Speaker 8 (01:11:03):
Wow, I'll baby.
Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
You can find me.
Speaker 8 (01:11:06):
In the back of the tacked up tailgates, sitting man
wants and all these pretty big.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I'm getting down in the Georgia clean. I'll found peace
at the bottom of.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
The reil top, so I just sort of got a
glimpse of what was in here.
Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
I am sched here it is folks around my food
forest Bible.
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah yeah, a baby.
Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Pull it out.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
See if I can get it out of the box.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I'll get it between.
Speaker 14 (01:11:42):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Love it, love it, love it. And it's autographed. Oh
my gosh, how lucky can you be. I'm gonna have
to order the one that's not a coffee table book
so I can use it every day. This one's going
on the coffee table. Love it so much. Thank you,
joel On what.
Speaker 8 (01:12:52):
Welcome back, everybody, And as that bumper showed you, uh,
we are not forgetting the jay sichers to be honest
with you, everybody, you know. For three and a half
plus years, we covered this from a perspective of dealing
with guys that were.
Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Locked up behind bars.
Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
We moved then to the families once they got moved
into the bop. We moved to the families and the
kind of collateral damage that this was causing. Now that
everybody is out and or pardoned with those few exceptions
that were commuted, it's a whole new world and we're
(01:13:33):
seeing all kinds of struggles We're going to bring in
somebody that you guys might recognize here because he spent
a lot of time in television and film and if
anybody has watched Bob Bergers, you know Jimmy Pestow. Jay Johnston, Welcome,
(01:13:54):
sir to Cawboy Logic. Cowboy Logic is pretty thrilled to
have you here. You know, full transparency everybody when when
we bring on a guest that we haven't spent a
whole lot of time.
Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
With, or for that matter, talked to before.
Speaker 8 (01:14:09):
We do these things called pre interview calls in which
we talked to, uh, talk to the upcoming guest about
interesting things and things we need to touch on. Jay
and I spent almost two hours on the phone one
night talking and we went all over the place. But
I think we'll both agree that we owe Kelly Megs
(01:14:29):
a hat tip because he introduced us.
Speaker 16 (01:14:32):
And so also, I'm a real I'm a real chatty Kathy.
Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
So you know, all right, you're an actor who's had
your career decimated and obliterated by Jay six. You were
telling me that you've got friends that no longer reach
out to you, or those that are are running around
like you're some kind of nuclear waste, toxic UH spills.
Speaker 16 (01:14:58):
It's amazing, It's incredible because what happens.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (01:15:05):
Let me.
Speaker 16 (01:15:05):
I mean, you know, I went to the whole event
because I thought that that was my right as an American,
and I believe everyone else there thought the same. That
was the biggest surprise of the whole situation for me initially.
And when when I was put on the most wanted
(01:15:31):
list or the list of people that they were looking
for the FBI, UH, that was about that proceeded maybe
twelve hours before they started coming out with hit pieces
and I was fired from my jobs and fired from
Bob's Burgers. I was on that for eleven years, you know,
(01:15:51):
just immediately fired. No one even called me. I just
found out through newspaper articles and that type of thing.
And then everybody who who I knew in Hollywood, which
I didn't think this was possible, but I've heard of
this type of thing. They completely completely disappeared, didn't speak
to him for they still haven't spoken to him actually
(01:16:13):
over four years.
Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
So I mean, that's the that's the epitome of being
called black ball. That really is what happens. And again,
like you say, the media attacking you before the charges
were even filed, which is ridiculous. But I mean, you've
been on the Sarah Silverman Show. You're a voiceover artist,
a writer, and an actor animated series Bob's Burgers. Yeah,
(01:16:38):
I mean supporting roles in Angerman.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
Oh, I'm just gonna say. You like stuff on Adult Swim,
Moral Oral and Mister Pickles and you know, Mama named
me Sheriff. And these shows are kind of the the
base of them is all about subversive, if you will,
comedy that's like a very against the you know, grain,
(01:17:04):
and sort of stands outside of convention a lot of times.
And for these people who are creative professionals, artists two,
you know, just wholeheartedly turn around and completely disavow relationship
they've had with me for in some cases over thirty
(01:17:27):
years is pretty mind blowing. Yeah, Because you know, even
if you are a shallow actor, you think you have
friends that are perhaps a little more deep rooted than
just surface.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
So you were an anchorman and Men in Black two,
I mean not a thirty year career.
Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
This is nothing to sneeze at.
Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
So I would venture to say I always have to
bring this out when we have other actors. I would
venture to say, because I was on the original equalizer
for about thirty five seconds, but it got me my
SAG park. Okay, so here I have my Universal Studio
residual check pay exactly four cents.
Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Four cents.
Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
I mean, why even send this through the what's they
want to raise the cost of a stamp to seventy
eight cents at this point?
Speaker 16 (01:18:13):
Why even send it exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I mean I never.
Speaker 8 (01:18:18):
Yeah, well yeah, but she's she's she's obviously always been
a known conservative. So that's why she's only got a
check for four cents from SAG.
Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
That's pretty bad.
Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
All right, let's talk about a little bit about what
happened on jan six. We got about three and a
half minutes before we have to go to the first
break here.
Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
But sure, what happened with you on j six?
Speaker 9 (01:18:41):
Right?
Speaker 16 (01:18:41):
I mean, I got to be honest, I think that
nothing I would say is it's going to surprise you.
I mean, you've heard it all as far as this
is concerned. I was not violent. I kind of wandered
around and didn't really have anywhere that I was going
or any idea what I was doing uh you know it,
(01:19:04):
joined in on some chance and whatever, and I ended
up in the tunnel area in the on the west
terrace and got involved in like sort of a crowd
push or crowd crushes. What I mean. It looked to
the prosecutors like I was in you know, in engaged
(01:19:25):
in pushing. But I was just off balance and like
my hands were in front of me on the person
in front of me. So I wasn't there to do
anything uh villainous or insurrect any government violence or anything.
Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
Let me ask you this, when you when you had
that that sensation, that feeling of that crowd pushing. We've
had that described by especially Connie and Kelly Meigs who
got thrust into the UH to the Capitol. Have you
ever failt anything like that in your entire life?
Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
No?
Speaker 16 (01:19:59):
I I hadn't. It was it was kind of scary
for a bit there, because I would say the the
I wasn't. I didn't feel physically threatened. I'm kind of tall,
and I didn't feel like anybody there was. I wasn't scared,
I guess I should say, until that entire tunnel area
(01:20:20):
filled wall to wall with people and the crush came
and they were saying, he oh, he will. The thing
was is that you are like completely off balance. You're
totally forward in your feet or behind you, and you
have your hands up trying to right yourself. And that
was the only concern really. I couldn't get my balance,
(01:20:42):
and therefore you couldn't get out of there. You know,
you could have been trackled.
Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
I mean that's what happened initially to Roseanne boiling into.
Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
Many other people.
Speaker 16 (01:20:50):
Yeah, and you have no control happening with a shield
was put down over my towards my head and I
ducked down, which then as I went down, I saw
a taser spike fly by my knee by about an inch,
and I thought I got to get out of here
right now. And I just ended up pushing people's knees
(01:21:12):
and hips lower and was able to get out that way.
Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
Kind of Well, you know, when you were leaning forward
pushing on somebody, they get a still photo of that.
Speaker 7 (01:21:22):
That's at one eleven A.
Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Yeah, you know, we take it out of context.
Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
And then you touch a shield and all of a sudden,
that's theft of government property.
Speaker 16 (01:21:31):
Well that was a problem. I did touch a shield.
Someone handed it to me as I wasn't looking, and
when it was in my hands, I was like, I
certainly don't want this. This is not why I'm here.
I don't want this.
Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
Did they charge you with theft? Did they charge you
with theft of of government property?
Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
No?
Speaker 16 (01:21:49):
Just illegal borrowing.
Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Illegal borrowing.
Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
All right, Well, when we get back from the brake,
when we get back from the break, we're going to
delve into illegal borrowing a little bit it.
Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
And find out exactly what that means.
Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
But you got to understand something, ladies and gentlemen. This had,
This gentleman had a thirty year career that came to
an immediate grinding halt and then was obliterated by the way.
Speaker 7 (01:22:13):
We'll be back with more gavil, you know.
Speaker 17 (01:22:31):
And I really gave it a lot of thought right
before January sixth, and I'm like, gosh, man, if I'm
going to go into this ryot, I need to smell
my best. That's why before every riot, I shower with
sugar Creek Goods, with the natural lie in oriaments and
lilac scented fragrance.
Speaker 9 (01:22:48):
You too, I can riot wonderful. Yes, I am.
Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Ready for battle.
Speaker 14 (01:22:53):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 17 (01:22:54):
Sugar Creek goods for making me smell fresh in every Riot.
Speaker 16 (01:22:57):
I actually showered with that last night, and I know
you I actually showered with this last night.
Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
Let me tell you something, and this is country.
Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
This bar is a man sized bar.
Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
Look at this. Look at the thickness of that bar.
Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
No communion way for that.
Speaker 9 (01:23:11):
And when you're in prison, you could.
Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
Sell one of these for like two honeybuts and maybe
another bag of coffee with that. So well, when you're
in prison, that's worth that's worth bending over to pick up.
Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Wouldn't you say at least three honey buns?
Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:23:25):
All right?
Speaker 13 (01:23:26):
Did your prison have a sign on the shower that
said one man at a time, Yes, but that one.
Speaker 7 (01:23:31):
Got scooped up really great. That's it, dude.
Speaker 17 (01:23:34):
That's why we put a rope on every soap.
Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
That's right, that's what a rope. Do they have a
soap on the rope? January sixth edition.
Speaker 7 (01:23:40):
They should know.
Speaker 8 (01:23:40):
But I am going to tell you something that you
guys may not know, and that is that they've got
the Sugar Creek goods.
Speaker 7 (01:23:48):
People have got that there's a soap on a rope.
Speaker 8 (01:23:52):
I gosh, the Patriot Bar. And here's what she did
every bar of soap. All the proceeds for the Patriot
Bar went back into commissary funds and things like that
for you guys.
Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Hey, thank you guys.
Speaker 14 (01:24:06):
This is Jeff Carlcy, conservative rocker, lead guitarist and founding
member of the band thirty eight Special. And you're listening
to my friends Donna and Don on Cowboy Logic. Let
us never forget the police Lives Matter.
Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
Welcome back, Jeff Darlyze. Everybody. You guys all know who
thirty eight Special is. And I'm here to tell you.
Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
In the world of rock and roll and rap and
R and B, you got some conservatives. They may not
talk about it on TV, which is just fine with me.
Bruce Springsteen, I think he needs one of them.
Speaker 7 (01:25:10):
No, he's not.
Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
He needs to he needs to sing his songs that
all sound the same and stopped playing.
Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
Politics, Bruce.
Speaker 8 (01:25:17):
But at any rate, there's a lot of conservative rockers
out there, and Jeff Carlsi is one of them.
Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
That's been that way for a long time. Now. We
got a conservative actor that we've been talking to.
Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Totally targeted, totally blackballed, comedic actor, writer and voiceover artist
Jay Johnston, who was there on January sixth, So tell
us about now your house.
Speaker 8 (01:25:38):
Was rated, and there was a lot of weird stuff
that went down on the fifth too.
Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
We'll say for another time.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
They were setting that up. But your house was rated
pretty early on.
Speaker 16 (01:25:50):
No, Yeah, well yeah, they actually I had originally when
when I was put on Twitter for you know, people
that or they wanted people to say what my name
was because they said, oh, we don't have the name
of this person. We want them for violence at the Capitol.
After that, there was a couple of months. Well, I immediately
(01:26:11):
went to the FBI and tried to get in contact
with them to say, hey, I didn't do anything. If
you know you want to do an interview, okay, but
I don't know anything and whatever, just don't raid my house.
You know, I have a special needs daughter and did
not want that to be something cheap would have to
go through. So time went on, months passed and they
(01:26:34):
asked me to come in for an interview and they said,
you know, you have like a week to decide give
us your answer. So right at the end of the week,
but the day I was supposed to go in and
tell them yes or no, I'm coming in or I'm
not coming in five point thirty in the morning, Boom,
FBI and twenty five agents on the lawn and cars
all over the lawn and they pull us out of
(01:26:55):
the house. Thankfully, thank god, my daughter was actually not
at our house that night. So they pulls us outside
and you know, I'm handcuffed on the lawn for about
forty five minutes, on my knees and my underwear, and
they're going through the place and you know, stopping people
on the street, you know, driving by, and neighbors are
(01:27:18):
out of their houses and everything, and they say, yeah,
let them get up, let them get dressed. We're not
going to arrest you. And I was like, what, You're
not going to arrest me?
Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
What is all this?
Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
What is this?
Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
You know?
Speaker 16 (01:27:27):
And they're like, well, we wanted you to come in
for an interview, but you know you didn't. You said no,
and I hadn't said no yet, so I really was
quite angry about that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Yeah, you know, as you know, and our beloved audience knows,
we've interviewed who we term as the OG, the guys
that were in C two B, and they were in
solitary for months and months and months and months and
months and months at.
Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
The beginning, and you were not, thankfully.
Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
But I'm going to tell you something, ladies and gentlemen,
the damage is different. It's not necessarily less, the pain
is different, the.
Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
The stress is different.
Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
And for somebody that didn't spend four years in a
jail slash Bureau of Prisons facility, what's some of the
stress that this has caused.
Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
You and your family outside of the career.
Speaker 16 (01:28:32):
Well, you know, of course, the the fact that the
career was completely removed and any opportunity in the future
was totally destroyed. That set that that circumstance because as
a whole you know, financial and uh, you know, psychological
(01:28:57):
strain on on my whole family, myself, health, It's it's
pretty intense. And the fact that you know, it was
a wholehearted just you know, removal of what I've done
for over thirty years and all this. You know, things
that you learned, you know, your network of people that
(01:29:18):
you would turn to when you're out of out of work,
and that type of thing starting all over basically, So
it's in one one regard. It's that takes your time,
that takes your your all your mental energy to focus
on that. So I really don't know what to say
(01:29:39):
about the idea of my time that I was supposed
to go and spend in prison, because it weighed on
me heavily and I'm my family. But yeah, I can
barely put in words what happened after the pardon, because
the pardon, I would have thought it would have been
just like phew, you know, and like let's move on.
(01:30:02):
That's what I wanted it to be behind us. It
turns out that was kind of the beginning in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, that's what we're finding more of a problem.
Speaker 16 (01:30:10):
How far are you at the beginning of like a
new stage of this whole journey, which has never really
been a journey that anybody chose. So it's well, you know,
for example, being blacklisted and everyone is turning their backs
on me in the industry here once the pardon came through,
(01:30:31):
of course, everything's fine, right and certainly not they're not
going to change their minds. Maybe ever, I have no idea,
but they're certainly you know, when the truth does finally
come out to people like that who will have their
walls up and not be interested in seeing the truth
(01:30:53):
until it's so blaringly obviously they can't deny it. Once
that occurs, their egos won't allow them to say, oh, yeah, sorry,
I was wrong. I mean that I don't that will
never happen, really.
Speaker 7 (01:31:06):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
What I hope is that guys like you and Siaka
Massaqui and Kevin Sorbo and any of these other conservative
industry people in television and ye brother Nick will find
others that will grow a pair and create the counter industry.
Speaker 16 (01:31:35):
Yeah, I think it does. But then you know, there's
also a possibility of the I don't know, inclusion of
the the right into the industry in the sense that
I mean, of course there are people who are conservative
in the industry, but once your label is conservative, you know,
(01:31:58):
it could very easily be the block came for you.
But it would be nice if that was just the
focus wasn't on that, you know, because it.
Speaker 8 (01:32:05):
Doesn't exactly it doesn't need to be Bruce Springs.
Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
It's amazing how the industry changed, though. I mean, you
got that that classic.
Speaker 18 (01:32:14):
Yeah rock what a mental patient man, I mean, but
you know, right after World War Two, so many actors,
you know, were veterans and stuff, and they were very
pro American and it's amazing how it's done in one
eighty and in my opinion, we're talking during the break,
I think they spread out.
Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
You know, at first they started with people who might
have been a threat to the government, first responders, military,
et cetera, et cetera. But you, as an actor, they
still went after you. A couple of years later you
got a year sentenced, like a year in prison. But
obviously then the pardon came through, thank God, so you
didn't have to do that. But I mean, God forbid,
if Pamela Harris got in, I think.
Speaker 7 (01:32:53):
You'd have been doing a year and a day, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
And I think so many would be in prison, and they.
Speaker 8 (01:32:57):
Probably they probably would have stuck in to some kind
of a medium security prison that was on lockdown the
whole time.
Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
I it's horrible.
Speaker 8 (01:33:06):
Thank God, Thank God that God, the hand of God
touched Donald Trump in Butler, PA.
Speaker 7 (01:33:14):
Thank God. That's all I be.
Speaker 16 (01:33:16):
That was just unbelievable, absolutely miracle.
Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
Jay's we got.
Speaker 8 (01:33:21):
We gotta drop it, Jay, I want you to stay
with us. First of all, again, Kelly Meggs, thanks.
Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
For introducing follow Him the Cats, the Underscore Cats. Underscore
me out with three ws all right.
Speaker 8 (01:33:33):
Every show we close with the most beautiful national anthem
ever sung. Jay, And as a Jay six er, you
need to be here with us, gentlemen, Hats off, ladies,
and gentlemen, hands over your hearts.
Speaker 7 (01:33:46):
We'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 8 (01:33:47):
And thank you for trusting us with two hours of
your valuable time.
Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Jay. We appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
God bless you, appreciate Thank you, and.
Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
Er what.
Speaker 13 (01:34:20):
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of.
Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
America, who dries and riding.
Speaker 14 (01:34:34):
Your girl
Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, One
(01:35:16):
nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
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