Cowboy Logic | May 10, 2025

Cowboy Logic  |  May 10, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
The doll.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And and look at her, and in.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
And and welcome to Cowboy Logic. Everyone here comes. Man,

(01:12):
I knew that was coming, and that would be his
Cowboy Logic pencil from Cowboy Logic Laser Joanna.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yes, Don, I must be honest when I say you
are sporting a lovely chocolate brown.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Beaver is very nice. I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's well shaped.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You shape, you shape my hats. He does, he's got
a steamer and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Almost said, I shape your beaver. But isn't it weird?
It's multiple beavers. It's more than one. We have many beavers.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
One of these days we will have to show you
our pool table. We've done it before, but it stands to.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's not a pool table, it's a that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Can I say one thing you.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Can after I welcome everybody to Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We appreciate you being here. By yes, we do, we
go back to you, Donna.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, thanks, don. Can I just say one thing that
everybody is finally saying, Why don't we just get it
over with and put General Flynn in there as the
National Security Advisor? Please just get it over with? Okay?
You know I hate to say lumored. I like Mike Waltz.
I know he was an awesome congressman, but basically he

(02:25):
got lumored, especially his assistant, this guy Wong, who also
got fired. I mean, I guess he had connections with
They think he had connections that could have been very nefarious,
because I believe he's the reason the signal Gate thing happened.
But as it stands, we've got Waltz now at the
UN and Congress is continuing to hold on.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
While you're talking about lumer and I got a lot
of respect for her, Okay, you do phenomenal work. Every
once in a while, I think that people who can
take a swing and a miss, and in my opinion,
and again, got a lot of respect for you, a

(03:10):
lot of respect. But I also respect Stanley Stanley Woodward, okay,
And I pray to God that you are wrong on this,
and I hope that if you are, you'll acknowledge that.
But just for the record, at this point, I believe
Stanley Woodward is a good man with the best interest

(03:32):
of the Trump administration and the j Sixers.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
We know for a fact that he represented the oath Keepers,
he represented Peter Navarro, he represented Walt Nauda. And in
the situation with Walt Nauda, they tried to get Walt
to flip on Trump, and Walt wouldn't do it, and
Stanley stood up for him. And I believe the exact
wording of the horrible DOJ that was there before was

(03:57):
we didn't know you were a trumper because Stanley had
applied for a judge ship in DC and they threatened
him with it and he still stood his ground. So
we'll see what happens with that. We hope that that
were right, quite honestly, but we shall see. So the
Dems are doing all they can to basically keep violent

(04:18):
MS thirteen gang members and trend i agua here in
the I mean, according to the Babylon b I think
this is great. The Dems are gonna start chugging artificial
food dies just to protest RFK, now, I mean this
is like their mentality. It is totally trumped arrangement syndrome.

(04:39):
So as you might have seen, Carolyn Levitt showed many
many times that they actually have signs leading up to
where the mainstream media and the press pool goes. You know,
signs like you know, missing signs, missing children's signs, Instead
they have these murderers signs rest total mugshots of all

(05:00):
these people lining the walkway that the mainstream media has
to see on the way there. Well leave it to
CBS and their reporter actually still stood up. I mean,
this is total Trump derangement syndrome. Still stood up for
these ms thirteen people watch house. CBS actually played this
out by blurring the faces king out here to the

(05:25):
White House. This morning we saw that these signs had
been set up, about a hundred of them on the
north lawn of the White House. They all say arrested,
They've got a muck shot and then written below a
violent crime, sexual misconduct on a minor, deliberate comicide, murder, rate,
sexual fault of a child. These, the administration says, are

(05:46):
all individuals who are unauthorized migrants who've been arrested in
the first one hundred days of the Trump presidency. It's
meant to send a signal that Trump is making the
streets safer with his crackdown on in the race.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
We will make a marriage guys safe.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Forget and the.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Signs replaced here because following you right over, fear is
where with all of the network cable news streaming out
let all of our live stocks. And so the signs
are in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
We will make a marriage.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
Guys safe forget.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
You've been hit that smooth.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And stay. It was okay, but a bad day.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
But the members of the nation sounding heart based incommodations
and at your change as you won't your your wont
you manage your wont and you can bet you won't.
You manage you won't and and you're walking I am
walking in.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You won't do any.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, It's amazing the difference between a blurred out photo
and one that is not blurred out.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm kind of thinking that, uh, why would you do that, CBS?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Because why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, you know, there are some that I didn't see, Donna,
that many of us think might be good. There you go,
there's a few.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Those are the ones we really.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Need arrested for COVID murders in citing violence lying the Congress.
Is that shift I don't have my glasses on. It
looks like shiff the illegal server and then open borders. Yeah,
very very interesting that those were not shown in the
in the CBS report.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, you know what the first one is Fauci COVID
dot gov. Folks go to that now it's the new
website find the latest on what they're admitting is going
on with COVID in the vaccines. But Fauci is still
walking God's green Earth right now, which to me is
just unbelievable. So you know what we need to do,
and people have been finally talking about it, and I

(08:40):
want to thank Joe von Hutten Pulitzer for bringing this up.
The first thing Trump should do at this point is
bring back the smith Month Act. And this would mean
that CBS and all the major networks and everybody for
that matter, is not will be held personally liable for
lying because that I went away with who who did

(09:02):
it go away with? Rock Obama?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hey, when we're kids, it's like the root of all evil.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I don't know about you guys, but I was held
personally accountable if I lied. Yeah, I mean, my mom
would have knocked my lips off, my fate what she did,
and then I learned exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
But the smith Mont Act back in the forties was
put in because two congress people figured that even at
that time, the mainstream media was getting a little too
chummy with politicians and they wanted to make sure that
those media types were held personally liable if they lied

(09:45):
on the air. I mean, Walter Cronkite was a total COMI,
but you really sort of, well, he skewed it the
way you know only he could, but you know he
hit it, and until he retired and came out as
a total COMI, you really wouldn't have known it as much.
But when Barack Obama got rid of the Smith mondd Act,
that was it. And now I really think it needs

(10:06):
to be brought back, and that would solve an awful
lot of problems, an awful lot of problems. So I
just really want to mention Tis James, Adam Schiff, Andrew Whitzman, Normizing,
Michael Cohen, and Janet Yellen as she oversaw the First
Republic Bank are the latest names that we're looking at

(10:27):
as far as real estate and great work that of
course Jason Goodman did and we had him on last
week for full hour Crowdsource Thetruth dot Org. The plot
is thickening as all this real estate stuff is coming
to fruition again. We'll have more Cowboy Logic right after this.

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Speaker 3 (12:00):
President Trump kicking off another busy week at the White House.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
It has been yet another eventful week in Washington.

Speaker 10 (12:06):
The activity level is off the charts. The President dialed in.
He is executing his agenda at a lightning fast paced
Here's something we rarely see in American politics. President Trump
is actually keeping his campaign promises, and he's doing him
as quickly as possible.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
This administration is moving at political light speed and they're.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
Just getting started.

Speaker 12 (12:29):
We're gonna have one shot at this, and no other
president's going to do what I'm doing.

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Goodbye, We love you, We will be back in some forms.
Have a good life, Michell.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Former President Donald Trump will be loving for president and.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Hire the stamina and the will to do is to
get you come on to something tremendous.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Everything is on the line in this election.

Speaker 13 (12:56):
See day in the campaign World up in Butler's day,
former President Trump holding around at.

Speaker 12 (13:00):
Five o'quity, part of pure pergam Trump.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Not even an assassin's bullet could stop them. It feels
like the climax of a superhero movie.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
The first act of twenty sixteen, the second act twenty twenty,
the third act.

Speaker 9 (13:16):
He almost dies and then what happens?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
But Donald Trump will become the forty seventh president of
the United States.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Rare in American politics. A presidential seek me believes he
has a quote landate to bring common sense back to
the country.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
There are time to take up the righteous cause of
American living and begin the most thrilling days in the
history of our country. This will be our greatest era.
With God's help, over the next four years, we are
going to lead this nation even higher, and we are
going to forge the freest, most advanced, most dynamic, and

(13:56):
most dominant civilization ever to exist. On the face of
this era, he.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Has the opportunity to reset everything around the world.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Under President Trump's leadership. The message to America's enemies is
loud and clear.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Peace through strength is back. The all amount of historian,
the all amount of.

Speaker 10 (14:13):
Fear mungery is going to shake the President's resolve.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is the wholesale destruction of the liberal state. He
is gutting liberal Washington d c.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
In a way that they take the deep, permanent.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Forty seven means business. The White House is holding all
the cards.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I returned to the Presidency confidence and optimistic that we
are at the start of a thrilling new era of
national success.

Speaker 10 (14:36):
The bottom line is, whether you like Trump or you
don't like him, you can't say that his comment and
not try to deliver.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
And he's doing so in historic fashion.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
A tide of change is sweeping the country's sunlight is
pouring over the entire world.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
And America has the chance to seize this opportunity like
never before.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Welcome back to Catholic logic, everybody, Welcome back.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
How'd you like that new Trump intro? There? Promises made,
promises kept.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Back to you, Donna, Except for that, I'm going to
be patient and well behaved.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Sure, find something to do while you do more headlines.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well it's annoying. Well, we just see promises made, promises kept.
Except for Congress Mike Johnson, please do something. Congress is
stalling DOJ confirmations until August. You've got the big beautiful
bill that's supposed to come out that first they said
Memorial Day, now they're saying July fourth. I mean, we

(15:51):
have a Republican Congress. Nancy Pelosi never would have put
up with this stuff while she was in power. I mean,
this is where's the Epstein list, where's the nng O money?
Us AI d probably will affect Democrats and Republicans. Maybe
that's what nothing's happening. What are you doing? What are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Just making notes and doodlings?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, let me see your notes. All he's scribbling. Are
my headlines that boring.

Speaker 12 (16:27):
You? No?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Sorry, not that.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
Boring at all.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Donna.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Nope, this is.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
News you can use. This is news you don't hear
all the time. I'm so siguous.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
We love Donna.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Let me tell you how much we love Donna. Let
me just tell you guys something. So we've got cameras
all over our place.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay, we've got.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Cameras in the house or outside the house, the shed,
the barn. You know, you gotta be almost off our
property not to be captured by a digital camera.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And uh no, no, I am going to set this up.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
And so Donna throughout the day has real America's voice
on this bluetooth and she's listening on her phone whether
she's you know, dealing with.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
The barn or out in the fields, it's blaring.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, she's got it constantly going. When Trump was up
in Michigan at his rally, she of course was listening
to that. And what you're about to see our real
security camera footage clips of Faducia.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
In the bar.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Literally, we will make.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
America great again. I love you, Michigan, I love you.
Have a good time.

Speaker 12 (17:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
God bless you all.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
God bless you.

Speaker 12 (18:19):
There's no need to do down.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I said, you're so down, I say, cause you're in
a new count so need to.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Jump.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
It's only shooting.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Go I said, when you shot on your dope, you can't.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
And that's where you buy me.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
It's fun to stay in.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
See, it's hard to stay in.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Samn.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, that's puppy band. He always gets in the picture.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's what Donna does all day everybody, that's what she does.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, you know what's so funny.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I was actually in the chat prior to the rally
starting and it was getting late, so I had to
go feed the horses. So I actually put in the
chat I'm listing guys, but I have to go run
and you know, run the barn and feed the horses.
And so I was not in the chat. I was
obviously in.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The barn, but that was real time footage.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, that's what she does, and I knew Don was looking.
That's why I kind of yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Had to blur that out.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Bird.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You guys enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I know I did.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
When she said, hey, pull up the cameras, I.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Think it was about seven thirty. Sure enough, there it was.
I'm going to get myself in trouble. Totally gonna get
myself in trouble. I do want to say a prayer
everybody for Tina Peters. She filed a federal habeas corpus
petition in Colorado citing constitutional violations and whistle blower protections.

(20:28):
And Steve Stern is going to be doing one of
his great calls on May fourteenth, so please jot this
down at two pm Eastern time, an election integrity call.
They're going to try to help Tina Peters. You can
go to the flagshirt dot com or Precinct Strategy dot
com to find more information that's happening May fourteenth, Precinct
Strategy dot com and the flag Shirt dot com. And

(20:50):
we thank Steve Stern always trying to help and prayers
for Tina Peters.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Because while you're bull cry, yeah, while you're sending out prayers,
we want you to keep our jasick brother, US Marine
Bart Shively in your prayers. He's he's fighting that cancer
and it's a big battle that he's fighting right now.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
It was stage two when he went into the gulag,
stage four when he got out Campbell June cancer.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Keep Bart in your prayers, absolutely need them.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Hey, you know, I want to lighten things up though
just a little bit. It's been a while we saw
the barn, you saw the inside, my tack room, the aisle,
my Polaris puppy band and running around here he hears
the Polaris start, he runs in so he can jump
right and go for a ride. But we haven't done
a boot check in a while, slick Rick, eat your

(21:41):
heart out?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, are you going to show your all?

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Get your boot? Get your boot?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, I got it, decidle, And this is kind of
an older type of boot. This is the fry square toe,
going back to It's got dirt on it, it's got
horsecrap on it. Sorry about that, but yeah, this is
my boot check. Slick Rick doesn't. I don't even think
slick Rick wears his boots. I'm sure you have horse crap.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Under They look like they're in pretty good shape.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, these are actually in pretty good shape. This, I
mean this square toe.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
That's what I'm wearing.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's not in good shape?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No, no it's not.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Hey, Rick, is that an old laugh?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
You got anything that looks like that on the bottom?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, Rick doesn't even look like he wears his. But
these how do you pronounce it? Hey, olitha Alitha, I'm
gonna show y'all something Alitha Texas made in the USA.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
In the USA, Rick, you got any that have that
on him?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I fry since eighteen sixty eight. Boot check and fry
since eighteen sixty eight. I'm sure this is made in
the USA too, although I should double check. You never
know anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Hopefully, though, we're bringing more of it back, more industry
back to the United States. I know the resist All
hats are made here. We had our own show gosh
two three years ago.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You might want to replay that.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
That was kind, that was really cool. We went out
to the resist All company in Texas and showed everybody
how the hats were made. The Beavers.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
We love our Beavers, ladies and gentlemen again, Uh do
us A favor prayer is very powerful. Anything you can
do using your phones, using your wallets is greatly appreciated.

Speaker 12 (23:27):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
But let's remember Tina Peters and uh pray for her
release and pray for our brother Bart's recovery.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
We love you, Bart, and we know you're going to
fight through this year a marine. Ladies and gentlemen, we're
gonna be back with more cabal logic right after this,
right after this.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
Cast any wear designer shirtsmores the.

Speaker 14 (23:57):
Body's Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. From the best seat
in the house, I can tell you America's heart is
still beating strong. In just one hundred days, President Trump
did what they said couldn't be done. He stopped the invasion,

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crushed the bureaucratic waste, brought prices down, and put America
first where she belongs.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He fought for peace when the world was rushing toward war.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
He gave this.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Country back to you.

Speaker 14 (24:31):
And make no mistake, folks, the American spirit is roaring
back with every bit of my soul. Thank you, President Trump.
God bless you, and God blessed this land of freedom.

Speaker 12 (24:44):
We so love.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
O fact, this is so bad, Rush Limbaugh.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I can like, I just look at a picture of
them and I start to well up. But how cool
is that across the fruited plain everyone, boy, I wish
he could have seen this, but I think he is
up there seeing it anyhow, someone who well, we just
love having on because we need to. The whole big
problem is China. China is always the biggest problem, and

(25:19):
that would be one Gordon Chang. So let's bring Gordon
on there. There. He is love to see you. Gordon.
His latest book, as you See Their Plan read China's
Project to Destroy America. And again, you've written so many
books on this topic. It is such a huge thing.
Gordonchang dot com is where you can find him, and
that Gordon G. Chang on social media, WCBS Radio as well.

(25:44):
I on the World That's with John Batchelor and Gordon.
I checked your some of your tweets just before we
brought you on, and it was exactly the first thing
I wanted to ask you because you said, basically, a
year ago, President, she was on the top of the world,
and now, in my opinion, he's got his back up
against the wall. And what really scares me is the

(26:05):
fact that at that point they can lash out when they're,
you know, basically in a very bad situation.

Speaker 12 (26:16):
Yeah, Si jimping was really arrogant. And we go back
to March twenty second, twenty twenty three, when he was
in Moscow bidding farewell back to Vladimir Putin, and that
was after their fortieth in person chat, and then the
Chinese leader said this quote, change is coming that hasn't
happened in one hundred years. And you and I remember

(26:38):
he's talking to Putin and you and I are driving
this change together. What Chinese leader was saying was that
China had become the global hegemen, that the United States
was finished, and that Siegimping was boss of the world. Well,
fast forward to today, Siegimping has lost control not only
of the world, he's also lost control of his country.

(27:02):
What we are seeing with President Trump's tariffs are he's
putting Chinese people out of work because with one hundred
and forty five percent general teri frame, which in some
cases is actually two hundred and forty five percent for
some products, many Chinese products are shut out of the
US market. That's important because the US is the biggest

(27:23):
export destination for China by far. It's about twenty one
percent of Chinese exports come to our country, either directly
or indirectly, and it is the world's largest consumer market.
About thirty eight to thirty nine percent of global consumer
spending is by Americans. That market can't be replaced. Siegem
Ping has irritated not only President Trump, but the American people,

(27:47):
and so right now siegem Ping is in a world
of hurt. His economy was failing to start out with
President Trump, hass with his actions and what we're seeing
with tariff controversies around the world. Chinese economy is actually
contracting right now, so the terriff war couldn't come at
a worse time for China's leader.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Well, you know just what you said though, that he
was with Putin saying we're going to basically run things
here on in now. If Trump didn't get in, that
certainly was the case. Because with a Biden administration, of course,
if Kamala Harris got in, we were driving Russia into
the arms of China. So now it's obviously so different.
But what really is so scary is, like you say,

(28:31):
the economy certainly isn't doing well, and you know, now
I'm just afraid for Taiwan and it's sort of quiet,
and I'm just wondering if it's that's not a good sign.
I don't know. I hope it's a good sign, but
I mean, if he's going to lash out, I would
say Taiwan would hurt us the most, especially given our

(28:52):
trade with Taiwan.

Speaker 12 (28:55):
Well, Taiwan One company in Taiwan TSMC, Taiwan's semiconductor Magne
factoring company makes ninety two percent of the world's most
sophisticated computer chips. And also Taiwan is the center of
our eastern of our western defense perimeter. It is democracy,
it is a test of American credibility, especially after the

(29:17):
collapse of Afghanistan and August of twenty twenty one. So
we've got a lot writing on Taiwan, more than most
people think. In the last three and a half four weeks,
China has been engaged in very provocative military activity against
South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, and Australia. On Taiwan, for

(29:43):
the last couple of weeks, it's been quiet. This is important,
and I think from a number of different perspectives this
gets a little wonky. But I think Sidrimping has lost
control of the Chinese military. That has all sorts of implications,
some good but mostly bad.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
That's what I was going to ask you about with
regard to the organizing structure as well as the military
of China. You know, I had heard a couple of
weeks ago, maybe a month ago, that he was now
actually on the hot seat, that they were starting to

(30:27):
look very with critical eyes of him, and this is
not good for g So what does it mean with
regard to the military might be turning on him.

Speaker 12 (30:41):
Well, it means that he's not controlling the military, which
is the most important faction in the Communist Party. Now,
this means a couple of things. One of them is
that it is extremely unlikely that Sijenping would be able
to start hostilities with an invasion of the main island
of Taimwaw. In order to do that, c has to

(31:03):
give some general or admir almost complete control over the
Chinese military, making that flag officer the most powerful figure
in China. Even in the best of times, Sigimping would
be reluctant to do that, but especially not now. And
it's not even clear to me that he could give
that order because it's I think fairly evident that Sijimping's

(31:25):
adversaries in uniform are basically in control of the Chinese military.
But on the other side of the ledger, Sijmping can
lash out. As I mentioned ano the last month, there
have been these very belligerent activities. If one of those
incidents spirals out of control, I don't think siegen Ping
can actually deal responsibly with the world to reduce tensions.

(31:51):
So I think the chance of war in Asia is
actually quite high, not because China is strong, but because
the regime is weak.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
What's the latest with Japan. The leadership there has seemed
to try to go a little more toward the left.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
Well, the Liberal Democratic Party is a coalition of factions,
and if you're looking at time since Shinzo Abe, the
long serving Japanese Prime minister, who was very friendly with
the United States, Yes, the Japan's moving a little bit
to the left, but it's not that far left. What's

(32:33):
going on with Japan are trade talks. Those trade talks
have not gone as well. I guess, as people think
part of it is because the Japanese are complaining, probably correctly,
that the Trump administration is not making clear what it wants.
It keeps on changing its negotiating positions. That's not a

(32:53):
good sign because for Trump to prevail in this trade war,
he needs to do a couple of things, and one
of the most critic is to stitch up trade agreements
with America's traditional trade partners. So if what the Japanese
are saying is correct, and I think it is, I
don't know, but I think it is, then it shows
disunity in the Trump administration with regard to these absolutely

(33:16):
crucial trade talks.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Gordon, I want to take a moment and ask you
also about South Korea. Is South Korea moving further left
than even Japan? Weigh in on that, and then I
want to plug all the fantastic work that you do.

Speaker 12 (33:38):
South Korea has a snap presidential election on June three.
The front runner is a guy named E J Moon
of the Democratic Party of Korea. He's not only a leftist,
he's ruthless. And it is not impossible that six months
seven months time, South Korea could be a communist state. So, yes,
that is moving left. As a matter of fact, no

(34:00):
Korea could eventually be merged into North Korea. Yes, that's
how serious the situation is. I'm not saying it's going
to happen. I'm saying the risk of that happen is
much higher than most people think.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
And I would think that the people of South Korea
are not very pleased about that. The people in South
Korea are going to elect you Jmum, and they know
who he is, so that's not going to be a
stolen election.

Speaker 12 (34:28):
Well that's another story.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, Well we got forty five seconds. Hold on let's
hold that thought.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
When we get back from the break, we're going to
dive into South Korea. But ladies and gentlemen, I want
to tell you something very important about Gordon Chang. A
he's like a brother to Donna and I, but for
you more importantly, he is always credible, always credible. And

(34:58):
when we came back on X, the first person that
we followed was Real America's voice because it's our network.
The second one was that man right there, any Gordon Chang.
Gordon Chang's with us in the bar, and we'll be
back back with more.

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Speaker 1 (36:29):
To compete and thrive.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
By levying tariffs, we maintain jobs and encourage domestic production,
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(37:16):
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Speaker 1 (37:32):
All right, welcome back to cawboy logic, everybody.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
As I was saying before we went to break, when
we came back on X, this was the second guy
we followed, And the only reason that he wasn't the
first is because we're on Real America's Voice. We kind
of felt obligated to follow them first. But within a
nano second of that, we were following Gordon. I am
strongly suggesting that, with regards to all things Asia, you

(38:00):
want to be the smartest person in whatever room you're in,
follow this guy.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
At Gordon g Chang, you know, Gordon Gordon.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'll get you our mailing address so you can send
me a check for that after the show.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Here's what distresses me, all these endless wars that we
send our blood and treasure to fail. I mean, I
just lost my father in law, who was a Korean vet.
I mean to say, now that Korea is it is
possibly going to be merged Vietnam, we failed in Afghanistan.

(38:36):
We've really failed everywhere since World War Two pretty much.
And if this isn't so in your face to the
American people at this time, at this point, I don't
know what is. But this is very scary.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So we were South Korea.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, you were saying that it's possible the elections can
be stolen. Gee, imagine that.

Speaker 12 (38:56):
Well, it's especially bad in South Korea because it appears
I can't prove it, but it appears that the Democratic
Party at Korea, which is known as Minju, has been
cooperating with China's Communist party to develop the algorithms to
steal elections. South Korea has an election system with early
voting that is particularly vulnerable to stealing and the result.

(39:20):
There have been three national elections where there's been evident
voter fraud twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty four.
In two of those elections, twenty twenty and twenty twenty four,
voter fraud actually changed results. It didn't change the result
in twenty twenty two, but it almost did. So, Yes,

(39:42):
there's the problem voter fraud. But you know, the South
Korean population, they're unhappy with the conservatives, and you know,
there's a lot of reasons to be unhappy with the
conservative faction in South Korean society. But the point is
that ej Moon is not only a leftist. There have
been leftist presidents before. The difference is that he is

(40:06):
absolutely determined to basically end democracy, where previous left presidents
were content to be sort of milk toast about it.
So this is a problem that I don't think that
we in Americans understand, and the Trump administration, I think,
is going to be caught a little bit flat footed

(40:28):
on this. They know about the problem, though they don't
know exactly what to do about it.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
It kind of sounds like so many elections all around
the world.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Really are you Are you able to on any type
of a semi regular basis advise members of the Trump administration.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
Only if they ask. I know, I tweet, I write,
and I hope they hear what I say. I tend
to think that they do. But you know, for me,
it's I just do what I can, and you know,
then it's in God's hands.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, I mean, he's called you out. I remember in
some of the rallies and I remember thinking, Hey, I know, Gordon,
well cool is that clearly?

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Clearly he knows, he knows who you are, and he
knows and there's a reason why he knows who you are.
The question is, Rubio, why aren't you tap and Gordon Chang,
you know's what's going on here.

Speaker 12 (41:32):
Well, it's okay. I mean, I've got my hands full
of just trying to keep up with what's going on,
and you know, I am you know, I'm very happy
to be talking to you because that gets out to
the American people, and the American people really important because
you know, as people say, in our democracy, no foreign

(41:53):
policy is sustainable without the long term support of the
American people. So it's really important for you know, to
talk to you guys, because you guys have reach. So
I'm very appreciative of being able to speak here today.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
So as far as the entire thing with the trade
war and the deficit and everything else in the tariffs,
what do you think is going to be the outcome
of this because in all of these cases we're hearing,
you know, big beautiful deals are being made and then
all of a sudden, not to me, that's how Donald
Trump operates. He you know, he pushes, then he pushes back,

(42:31):
he pushes. So I just kind of, you know, I
don't want to see how the sausage is made, just
I just want to be able to eat it with
a little bit of onions and peppers. That would be fine.

Speaker 12 (42:42):
The answer to that question is really it's up to
President Trump. The Chinese have lost agency. They no longer
control what's going on. C. Drimping is in a very
difficult place. As I mentioned, the Chinese economy almost certainly
control acting. Now it's in a deflationary spiral, which means

(43:03):
that there are no good outcomes. Also, remember China is
the smaller economy than ours. They're less than two thirds
the size of the American economy. They're also the trade
surplus country. Last year, China's merchandise trade surplus against the
US was two hundred and ninety five point four billion dollars.
That was up five point eight percent from twenty twenty three.

(43:26):
In trade wars, trade surplus countries always get hurt because
they've got everything to lose.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (43:31):
The only card that Sigian Ping has because everything China
can do to retaliate, and it can do a lot
of stuff, but everything China can do to retaliate hurts
China as much or more China than it hurts us.
There's only one thing sigein Pin can do, and that
is to get the American people to pressure President Trump
to preemptively surrender. If that happens, China wins. But I

(43:55):
don't think Trump is going to surrender. I think Trump
is absolutely determined because he believe leaves he is on
a mission to protect the American worker. He's a member.
In the campaign, he talked about McKinley and tariffs. I mean,
how many Americans talk about that in any form, not,
you know, certainly not on the campaign trail. So he
believes in this, and so I think he's going to prevail,

(44:18):
you know.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Real quick. Amazon apparently thought they were going to hurt
Donald Trump by saying what was made in China and
what wasn't. In my opinion, I think that's awesome because
now I know when not to buy.

Speaker 12 (44:29):
Yeah, well, you know, if Amazon wants transparency, which is
what they said about putting listing the tariff price, then
these guys should list the country of origin where this
craft comes from, exactly as country of origin labeling, and
it should be required by all of these websites, including Amazon.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Well, that's awesome.

Speaker 10 (44:48):
Did you have another guess?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Well, I wanted to get into tariffs.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
At the beginning of this segment, you guys got to
see kind of a tariffs one oh one bumper that
we played and Gordon, because you're a genius on all
levels in my opinion, What are your thoughts on the
tariffs just broad stroke.

Speaker 12 (45:10):
Well, absolutely, we have to have those tariffs. We can't
allow China to steal intellectual property to the tune of
half trillion dollars a year. We can't allow the Chinese
to engage in these increasingly predatory tactics because you know,
American communities have been devastated by the loss of factories
and that's the loss of hope, that's the loss of

(45:32):
the future. So this is a struggle that we have.
Remember we have had injurious China policies for three decades.
We've had injurious trade policies for three decades. We're not
going to get out of this without some pain. And
President Trump is as good as his word. You know,
we had a lot of presidents, especially Obama, talk about
China being a problem with trade. They didn't do anything.

(45:55):
Trump is the only person to do something. So we
Americans need to stand behind our president. I know a
lot of people don't like him, it doesn't matter. We've
only got one commander in chief. This is not peacetime.
This is one of the most dangerous points of history.
We need to stand behind our president and this is historic.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
And this is what is so humiliating to me when
I talk to some friends. Oh you know, it's a mess,
blah blah blah blah blah, Like this didn't happen overnight.
This happened over decades, and you've got one hundred days
you want this thing fixed. Gordon, unfortunately, we're already out
of time. Folks find him at Gordon Chang dot com

(46:32):
on ex Twitter whatever, at Gordon g. Chang and he
always has some great information there and his books. The
latest one you see there Plan Read China's Project to
Destroy America. That's his latest. But he's got a whole
library of great books on this whole area. And full disclosure,
we went to the same high school. But you know what,

(46:53):
Gordon obviously went on to bigger and better things law
school and now.

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Acknowledged how great you Barn Party drummers are. Ladies and gentlemen.
We are going to get right to business.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
I probably should say Danna's name, Uh, but we're going
to get right to business because we have got an
interview here that we have waited now at least a year,
if not longer, to be able to hold. And I
reached out to this gentleman and uh, through a few conversations, Uh,

(50:16):
he agreed to come on the show. And we're going
to give you J six from a big time different perspective.
We have got former Lieutenant Capitol Police Tark Johnson, that
is joining us.

Speaker 12 (50:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
You probably remember how you doing, my friend? How what
are you doing?

Speaker 9 (50:33):
I'm doing good? How you guys doing to We're good.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
You probably remember an interview that he did with Tucker Carlson,
and ironically, within.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Hours after that, Tucker was gone from Fox. If I'm
not wrong, that.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Seems to be the moo Tucker. I got to tell
your toxic.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Listen very briefly.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Back when Tucker was granted access to the forty seven
thousand hours of footage, two of his producers reached out
to us, and I spent about an hour and a
half on the phone with them, and I said, you
can do this one of two ways, gentlemen. You can
go in there and try to figure out heads from

(51:19):
tails on all of this footage, and you will be
lost in a quagmire footage. Or you can reach out
to some subject matter experts that I considered to be
subject matter experts, you know, Jeff McKellop, A Dan Caldwell,
a Kelly Megs, these guys that had nothing to do
for days and weeks and months. But look at that

(51:41):
footage while they were in C two B and they
didn't take me up on it, and before you know it,
Tucker was gone. But I guarantee you, even somebody with
a trained die like you goes in and tries to
look at that footage.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
It's going to take you a lifetime over and over
and over again. At any rate. Welcome, sir, to Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
We are going to discuss something that you laid out
a while back beautifully so that everybody can understand this,
and that is the hierarchy of the Capitol Police Department,
in which you've got the chief and at the time
it was chief sounned, and then you've got two assistant chiefs.

(52:25):
You've got Pittman, who was in charge of intel, and
then you've got Thomas, who was in charge of operations.
And this is very very important that you guys listened
to what I'm gonna call you, TK man.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I heard you go by TK am. I right, okay,
all right, here we go.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
TK is going to lay this out to you in
layman terms so that you all understand what went wrong
on J six.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
TK have at it, sir.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
Okay. So I'll start just to let the audience know
that I was a member of the Capitol Police for
twenty three and a half years. I achieved the rank
of sergeant and I'm sorry, let's go back. I was
a special agent. I got that rank in two thousand
and three. I got promoted to sergeant in twenty twenty.
I'm sorry two thousand and four, and I got promoted

(53:20):
to lieutenant in twenty eighteen. When I was promoted to lieutenant,
I was assigned to the Capitol Division, And on January sixth,
my job was I was the commander of routine operations
in the Capitol while they were counting the electorial votes
on January sixth. So that was my job. So twenty
three and a half years.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I know a lot.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
I know, Like I said, twenty three and a half years.
So just to give you an idea of what January
six was, it was a nothing day. We expected absolutely nothing.
I had planned on leaving early that day because I
knew that I knew that it was going to be nothing.
We had very little to no intail of anything that

(54:04):
was sposed to occur, and that's what I thought it was.
So we found out, you know, and I don't have
to go as far as what happened, because everybody knows
what happened on January sixth. So now we're trying to
dig out what actually occurred on January sixth. So let
me give you the structure. So you had Chief Stephen
Stun who was the chief of the entire Capitol Police,

(54:27):
in charge of Yoga Nan Depictment, who was the commander
of Intaeil, and she was he was in charge of
He was the direct supervisor of Chad Thomas, who was
the assistant chief in charge of the Operations where I
worked at. So operations have to device and a plan

(54:49):
to secure the capital based on the information given to
them by the Intel section. So the Intel section basically said,
you got gonna do anything to worry about. It's fine,
you know. So operations on that day we were working
with the skeleton crew because we expected absolutely nothing. So

(55:10):
Thomas was totally saying bag he didn't get the information.
We found out after January sixth that Pittman and her
deputy Sean Gallagher had the intail around December twentieth, almost
three weeks before January sixth. So they had the intail.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
All right, let me ask you, Let me ask you this,
Let me ask you this. What intel did they have?

Speaker 9 (55:35):
They had the intel, what was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Or do you have any idea what that intel said?

Speaker 9 (55:41):
Yes, the report said that people want to store on
the capitol, break in, take the subways, everything.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
So but the intel you were provided with said that
this was going to be a low impact or a
low it was.

Speaker 9 (55:54):
Burger like a regular event.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
They downplayed it. So they downplayed it when they knew
millions of people might even show up a yui.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Okay, and I don't want to keep interrupting you, but
they had this intel as early as.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
What date, December to twentieth boom?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Okay, all right, so picture this, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
You got Chief Son, you got Pittman, who's the assistant
chief of Intel. And it's the role of intel to
provide operations. Who assistant Chief Thomas was in charge of
and what TK worked under provide operations with that intel

(56:44):
so that they could properly prepare.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Is that a good way to put it?

Speaker 9 (56:49):
That is exactly correct?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
All right?

Speaker 9 (56:53):
Keep going, Okay, so now we're there. So now the
intel was there at the report. You can look it up.
Believe it's public. It's twenty one TD one point fifty
nine and it basically laid out what was going to occur.
Pittman had that information and did not give it to
either Chief Son, who was the chief of the Capitol Police,

(57:15):
or Chad Thomas, who was in charge of the Operations Bureau.
So neither one of those two individuals had it. What
makes it even worse is that days before, leading up
to January sixth, Chief's son was trying to get National
Guard support on Capitol Hill that day, but the Senate

(57:36):
Sergeant at Arms and the House Egeant at Arms, the
House eget Arms his name is his name was par Irving.
The Senate Sergeant Arms was Michael Stinger. They told Son
that he did not have the intel that articulated the
need for the National Guard. Even though Pittman had it,
she didn't give it to him. So he was denied

(57:57):
the national Guard, or denied the ability to request the
National Guard from Berving and Stinger.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Okay, hold that hold that thought too, Hold that thought too,
because this is this is critical because not only not
only did sund feel like it would be important to
have national Guard, Trump requested it and suggested it.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
And I can tell you after conducting probably.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Close to two hundred interviews with jan six ers, the
vast majority of them behind bars. Every one of them said,
none of this would have happened. If those protesters would
have walked up and stood in front of national guard,
none of that would have happened.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
And but my big question is, well, we got a
minute here. Did Donald Trump get that intel? Or did
did Pittman hold it from him?

Speaker 9 (58:51):
Biggest thing? So now that was huge, okay, President Trump.
And I was listening to the I read the reports.
I was listening when they had the public interviews for
January sixth, the j sixth Select Committee, and I'm waiting
for them to say Donald Trump had that information. He
never had the intail. So if he never had the intaeil,

(59:11):
how can you blame him for it? If he never
had the intail?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Exactly? All right, So hold on right, we're gonna go
break here, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
We have waited a long time to bring this great
man on here, and and you talking about courage. We're
gonna find out what this has cost him by opening
his mouth and talking about this.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
We're gonna find out what it's cost him.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
And it is reprehensible that best ladies and gentlemen, we've
got t K. Tark Johnson, Capitol Police, former Capitol Police
lieutenant in.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
The barn with us. We'll be right back. Welcome back

(01:00:19):
to Cawboy Logic. Ladies and gentlemen, we have got a
very special.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Four segments the entire hour with Tark Johnson, former Capitol
Police lieutenant. And again, sir, not only do I appreciate
you being here, I appreciate you trusting us enough with
your story to come on the show with us, because
we greatly appreciate that, and we value not only the
role that you played to protect everybody that you touched

(01:00:49):
on Jay six but also that you are willing to
speak out the truth because that's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
You know, you said in one.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Interview that you're not looking for accountability, but you are
looking for the truth so that everybody that was wronged on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
January sixth can be made whole.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Now that was a paraphrase quote for you, but I agree, man,
you know, and I think that we got a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Ways to go to get this truth out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
But you brought up in the last segment the sergeant
at arms for both the House and the Senate, and
very briefly, those individuals are selected by whichever party is
controlling the House or the Senate at that time. So
if you've got Democrat control of the House and the Senate,

(01:01:41):
you're going to have a Democrat chosen sergeant at arms
for both. But they are part of an extremely powerful
entity and that's called the Capitol Police Board.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And we have been told by a mutual.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Friend, Steve, along with other J six lawyers, that that
Capitol Police Board wields more power than Congress itself.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
And you want to explain that a little bit, well.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
I would say not not Congress as a whole, you know,
because Congress can still dictate who's going to be the
sergeant at arms. So but the position is very, very powerful.
The you have the House to sergeant in arms, you
have the Senate sergeant in arms, like you said, and
you pretty much laid it out. But they can be removed.

(01:02:34):
But yes, they control the Capitol Police and who's going
to be the Capitol Police chief. So a member of
the Capitol Police Board is more powerful than an average
member of Congress, yes, you know, but no, not Speaker
Mike Johnson or the Speaker of the House or you know,
the minority leader. So they're not leadership, but they're still

(01:02:56):
powerful individuals, very powerful individuals, and a lot of times
people don't understand that just because you don't know who
these people are or what positions that they hold, they're
still very very powerful people. And the people on the
Capitol Police ward are very very powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
All right, Let's go back to Pittman then, and Thomas
and Son for that matter. Okay, because from what I
can tell, and ladies and gentlemen, you can see you
can see Tk's social media his ex account there. I
strongly urge you to follow him. He's very regular at posting.

(01:03:33):
And again, you got to understand the level of courage
that this man has. He has basically become a whistleblower
for Capitol Police and the wrongs that took place at
the upper echelons with the most powerful people in the
Capitol Police. Pittman ends up not passing on intel to

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operations causing havoc that day, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
She gets promoted along with Gallagher who gets.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Promoted, and then the promote Son is terminated and Thomas
is terminated. Let's get into that a little bit, because
it seems like if you do something to fairs, you
get promoted.

Speaker 9 (01:04:12):
Yeah, well yeah, and people have to understand, and I
wish you know. But you know, I though sometimes I
go back and think people really want to know what
really occurred on January six I'm not one hundred percent
sure that the majority of the country really wants to
know what occurred on January sixth, Because when you really

(01:04:33):
look at just a little piece of information that I've
given you guys, and the information that you've heard Steve Baker, Pittman,
Sean Gallagher withheld critical intel. They were supposed to give
that critical intel to Son and Thomas. They did not.
Thomas and Son were basically kicked off the department. It

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was not Sun, but Thomas was forced to sign the NDA.
I was told Son has spoken out. You have never
seen anything from Thomas. Thomas was in charge of operations.
How come he doesn't testify for the Jay Sis Select Committee.
How Come he's not testifying publicly publicly in any committee

(01:05:16):
because he's nobody even knows. I don't even know where
he's at now. But I think that if people really
want to start figuring out what really occurred on January sixth,
you will probably want to start with him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
So you're saying that, if say Jim Jordan decides he's
going to do something productive.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
What needs to happen is he needs to put Sun
and Thomas.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
They need to be subpoened, they need to be sworn in,
and they need to testify of exactly what with regard
to them transpired on Jay six, because they got they.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Got canned on January eighth, I take eight hours later was.

Speaker 9 (01:05:54):
The son was now Thomas was still there, but he
was basically muted. He didn't say anything. And then eventually
I think a couple months later, he got the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Boot and Yogananda Pittman got promoted to Berkeley, which just
happens to be Nancy Pelosi's district to do something you know,
their security wise, but it does seem if you told
the narrative you got rewarded.

Speaker 9 (01:06:24):
Well, I don't think it was actually Nancy Pelosi's district,
but I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
It was another cover oka.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
But she did get taken care of one. And when
she got that job, she was actually still employeed with
the Capitol Police, so she had she was the chief
of that department California, Berkeley, and she was still the
assistant chief of the Capitol Police.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Yeah, good of you can get it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I need to read I got to put on my
X ray respects to read this this note.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Are some of our very trusted Jay sixers that have
appeared on our show. Claimed that there was someone calling
the shots that day. Okay, And and if you if
you vision envisioned this as a control center, a command

(01:07:16):
center that was calling the shots of what of what
to do or what not to do, that would be
either Pittman or Thomas. And Thomas didn't have the proper
information to be making decisions anyway. He was probably flying
by the seat of his pants when he saw what happened.

(01:07:36):
But you said that on the comms channel that you
were listening to, you were hearing repeated cries for help
from uniformed officers and crickets from the command nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Can you expand on that?

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
We were a street We were ignored. And I was
angry even after the curb. I was angry at Son
because I was like, why wasn't he responded on the radio.
But then I found out later he was directing other
resources to the capitol so we could get some help,
so we could start to de escalate the situation. Pittman
Gallagher had the intail. There were other commanders in there,

(01:08:17):
and a lot of those guys didn't really do anything either,
but it's hard to blame them directly when they didn't
have the intail. So when it comes to what occurred
on that day, a lot of people could have done
a lot of things. Different officers, officials, demonstrators, everybody could
have done things differently, but none of us expected what occurred,

(01:08:38):
with the exception of Gallagher who had the intail and
Pittman who had the intail. So when you had the
demonstrators on the ground they would come to the Capitol,
they had no idea they were being set up, you know.
And then the officers on the ground from Metropolitan and
the Capitol, they had no idea they were being set up.
So and even some of the officials in the command
center they had no idea that Pittman and Gallagher had

(01:08:59):
this intail and knew what was going to happen in advance. So,
you know, Son did the best that he could, and
like I said, I had no issues with him. He
did what he could. Pittman and Gallagher, that's my issue
and that's what my focus.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
It took four years to come out.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
We got we got less than a minute and a
half before we got to go to break. I feel
like this is a million dollar question here. You may
or may not know the answer to this.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
So do I get a direct deposit after answer?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
You might, you might set up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Against and go, it might bounce. It'll probably bounce.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Okay, who was directing Pittman to not provide Thomas and
Sunned with that intel?

Speaker 9 (01:09:47):
That's the million dollar question. I'd even pay a million
and one for it. Pittman has to be asked that question,
in it in a deposition or under open That hasn't
happened yet.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Did she go before the Gen six committee at all?

Speaker 9 (01:10:03):
I think she did closed hearings, So she did a
couple of I think she did a couple of public ones.
But I can tell you I think she did it
to gain the favor of Nancy Pelosi's why she didn't give.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
The okay and that speculation.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
I want to make sure everybody understands that you're I mean,
it's one thing to do what you're doing, it's another
thing to make sure that people understand that you're speculating
on something. All right, Yep, when we get back from
this break, you're gonna learn a little bit about what
this has cost Tark and his family because it's cost.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Them a lot. We've got Tark Johnson in the barn
with us J six coverage on Cowboy Logic. We'll be
right back.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Hey, everybody, don new and with GAP, but we're Logic
along with Robert Lego Man Morse and you're gonna get
the story behind Still There.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
So long story short.

Speaker 15 (01:11:13):
After I had had my entire life destroyed and thrown
into the DC GOO Lag, I was blown away with
the fact that we were going to sing our national
anthem at nine PM. So about a week of that
went by with tears in my eyes because of the
pride that I felt. I started screaming the lyrics still
there because after everything they had taken from me, and
after everything that I was willing to overcome, my faith

(01:11:35):
in my God, my faith in my country, and the
camaraderie that we had for one another and our families
was still there. So I screamed those lyrics and at
first they didn't like it, but after a while they
caught on and now it's part of the national anthem.
So I might have personally tweaked the national anthem for good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
For still there, all right, Welcome back, to Capitol Logic.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Everybody k in the barn with US Capital Police, former
Capitol Police lieutenant and what I would term as a
truth teller.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Not necessarily a whistleblower, but a truth teller. Tark.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
What is this done to your family? What is this
done to your career? Because you are very outspoken about
getting the truth out.

Speaker 9 (01:13:15):
Yeah, I'm pretty outspoken. But yes, I had to forfeit
my career seventeen months away from full retirement. But for me,
and I took a heck of a pay cut. I
transferred to another federal agency. I can't really disclose where
I work at now because I would have to get
permission from them to talk about it publicly. But I
transferred to another federal agency so I can finish out

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my years. But yes, I took a substantially large pay
cut and forfeited my law enforcement career, so I'm not
a police officer anymore. But I felt it was the
best thing to do because I knew what occurred on Janeuars,
since I knew the lies that were being told on television,
and when it was time for me to come back,
I didn't want to come back to them knowing what

(01:13:57):
I knew because I wanted to be on the right
side of his So I'm glad that I left them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Well, you have integrity, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
In some of the videos, just real quick and it
was later on in the afternoon, you can clearly see
the Capitol Police and the Metro Police saying we were
set up, we were set up. This is a setup.
And again these are videos that took years to come out.

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
Because that's exactly what it was. Because it wasn't they
should have known. I mean, you can't have that many
people coming to Capitol Hill and have no intel on
it at all. So yeah, they were absolutely set up.
Hotels were being booked up all around the city and
nothing from the Intel section saying that this is going

(01:14:42):
to be bad when they had the information. So yeah,
they were angry because they were set up.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Now I'm going to go out on a limb there
and say that you were probably the only uniformed law
enforcement officer on Capitol grounds that day between Capitol Police
and MPD that was sporting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
A MAGA red ball cap, and.

Speaker 12 (01:15:10):
You know it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I'm probably spot on with that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
And I did say uniform because there were plain clothes
that were wearing them, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
In a uniform. You were the only guy.

Speaker 9 (01:15:24):
Now, I was the only one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
You know, when you first look at that, you go, wow,
check out him, he's a Mega supporter. Well you weren't
in twenty twenty. You know you probably I think I
read your lifelong Democrat that left the Democrat Party after this,
But and you did say Trump twenty twenty four. I
think on your social media, give us the story about

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the red Maga hat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Why did you put it on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Talk to us about your approaching and your discussions you
had with the oathkeepers.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
Well, initially, I got a call that some of my
officers were trapped at the top of the steps, so
I tried to go up those steps to bring me
officers back down. And I went up the first time,
and on my way down that first time, someone he
was reaching over. I thought he was going to hit me,
and then he put the Mega hat on my head

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and then he asked for the hat back, but I
said that I need the hat so I can get down.
And then another guy was trying to ask what the
communication was, and I was like, I got this Mega
hat and I'd like to keep it. But he wants
his hat back, so I don't know which. I can't
remember which hat I ended up with, but I kept
the hat. So I got down the steps and I
decided to keep the hat on because I had to

(01:16:43):
go back up there again. And I even announced on
the radio that I was wearing a mega hat so
my command staff would know that I had to hat on.
And I went up the steps. Well before I went
up the steps, a guy approached me and he would say, wow,
you know, what do you think about was going on
out here? Because he saw the red Mega haat And
I told him what I thought, and then I told

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him that I needed some help to get up the steps,
and we had to help me, and we got up
steps and we were able to bring the officers back there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
And that was an oathkeeper that approached you down at
the bottom of the steps. Am I correct?

Speaker 9 (01:17:15):
I found out later that he was an oathkeeper. No,
I had not heard about the oath keepers until after that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
All right, While we're on oathkeepers, let's get into some
of the problems that they encountered being their trial and
people that testified against him. Lazarus and Harry done yes
and we actually provided footage of the Stephen Horn footage

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which is public domain, that showed the oath keepers were
actually standing in a semi circle protecting Harry Dunn, and
that conflicted with not only his second and third three
oh two form with the FBI, but also everything that
Lazarus had to say.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
So why don't you get into that a little bit?

Speaker 9 (01:18:08):
Yeah, I heard there were two three oh two's conducted
with Harry Dunn, and I had not. I have not
seen even today either one of those three oh twos,
So I can't really say which one is the truth
because I didn't see either one. Now, Steve Baker beautifully
uncovered the lies or the some people would say lies.

(01:18:29):
I would call them lies. Some people may say he
just didn't remember. But he put hisself witnessing and interaction
with the oathkeepers and Harry Dunn at a time when
he wasn't even in the build. So to me, there's
no excuse for that to me as an outright lie,
and I and and nothing's happened, and there's no public

(01:18:51):
outrage for it. You know, I still don't understand that
even today. But he put hisself witnessing and alteration or
a contentious situation between Harry Dunn and the Othkeepers and
he was not there and there's no public outrage.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Well, the three O two's Dun's three O twos that
the Oathkeepers were privited to see went from the first one,
which is the Oathkeepers did nothing but help me to
the Oathkeepers were causing problems and were or threatening to

(01:19:28):
even worse that they you know, he feared for his
life from the Oathkeepers basically, and I'm paraphrasing them, and
then testified against him. And then Lazarus comes in and
talks about where he was when he wasn't And going
back to that footage, that Stephen Horn footage, Kelly Meggs
was sitting in the hole in d C post sentencing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
When he saw that for the.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
First time on our show using Pluto TV on his tablet,
and he calls up and he goes, that's the footage
we were asking for.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
I said, dude, it's on YouTube and it wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Allowed a question. You're talking about the footage of Steven
Lass not being there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
No, I'm talking about the footage of the oath Keepers
actually standing in a semi circle protecting Harry Dunn because
the footage that was provided.

Speaker 9 (01:20:21):
Huh, they didn't get that information in trial.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
No, the footage that they were provided with ironically stopped
right before Stephen Horn got to them and then continued
up about eight or ten minutes down the road, and
the prosecution claimed that it was damaged. And the thing is, Man,
I don't Donna and I don't have access to evidence

(01:20:45):
dot com. We're not lawyers, Okay, So we had to
go find that footage that Stephen Horn two hour footage
on YouTube downloaded.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
And then we could ab after the trial.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Meg's is evident in a discovery you know, that was
that was public domain at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
So we laid it in and we showed exactly what
they did. Yeah, they just stopped it. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I mean the whole thing back you say, has been
a setup, a total setup. And then the sham j
six committee comes in and only picks and chooses, basically
cherry picks who they want to testify. They put it
on a prime time right when the oath Keeper one
trial was going on. So what do you think is

(01:21:32):
going to happen? I mean, it was almost one hundred
percent conviction rate as it was, but it was just
a total setup from start to finish of just everybody involved,
which makes it just so wrong on so many levels.
And yet we still don't have another real jan sixth
committee yet.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
I got to ask you, we're going to break. I
got to ask you for a yes or no on this.
Were you ever asked to testify in any of the
oath Keeper trials.

Speaker 9 (01:21:56):
I got subpoena and the Stewart Road trial.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Okay and okay, we're gonna run out of time on
this segment before you can answer that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
But I'd be very curious on what transpired during that testimony.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, we have got an amazing gentleman with us,
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With the back ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
I think you'll agree that this is a special hour
that's shedding a lot of light on things, and all
our Jay six brothers and sisters that are watching this,
I hope you're paying attention to what tk's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Talking about here.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
When we went to break, we are about to jump
into the Oathkeeper one trial. There were three of them,
ladies and gentlemen. The Oathkeeper one trial involved Jessica Watkins,
Kenny Harrelson, Stuart.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Rhodes, Kelly Meggs, and somebody else. And i'mdrawing up BLANKO.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
At any rate you testified in that trial. Would you
expand on that a little bit?

Speaker 9 (01:24:59):
Well, I've got I was subpoena in the trial, so
for the prosecution. So they brought me in and they
wanted to do an interview. They wanted the Capitol Police
attorneys in there, and I said, I'm not talking about
anything if the Capitol Police has anybody in the room.
So then they said that we don't know if we

(01:25:20):
can do an interview. I said, fine, I'll leave. They
walked out. They came back in and said we're gonna
go ahead and do the interview even without the Capitol Police.
So we began. They showed me videos of what occurred
with the goalkeepers that were helping me, watching them go
up the steps, we watched them come back down, and

(01:25:43):
then they wanted to know what I thought about what
was occurring. And I told them unequivocally that they helped
me and I don't think I could have made it
up those steps, and they basically protected me going up
and down those steps one and to the FBI's credit,
they didn't had to give me a lie or say,
you know, I wouldn't have done it anyway. But I

(01:26:04):
told them that. And after that interview, they didn't want
me to test. So you never testified.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Shocking that they never had you come into the courtroom.

Speaker 9 (01:26:14):
And I would have said just that. I would have
never lied to start, even though I know the DJ
was under you know, the buy An administration, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Not have lied.

Speaker 9 (01:26:22):
I would have told the truth right right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Well, that's why they didn't want you in there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
But this shows you why even now prosecutors who are
leaving left and right are saying, well, you know, that's
because we can't agree with what's going on with the
new DJ. Yet they basically withheld evidence and did Brady
violations in numerous cases. And that's a perfect example.

Speaker 9 (01:26:47):
And I think that they were like when I said, yes,
those people were agreed, there are hundreds and hundreds of
people that were agreed. On January sixth, demonstrators people who
were prosecute, the arrested and then prosecuted. And I think
that we all know about the Ashley Babbitt settlement, depending settlement,
but it's going to be a lot more settlements on

(01:27:08):
both sides of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
And officers very quickly. A gentleman by the name of Manager.

Speaker 12 (01:27:18):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
How you pronounce that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Thomas Manger, Thomas Major.

Speaker 9 (01:27:22):
He's our angly the most corrupt politician in the country.
I know exactly who he is. He's the chief of catiplies.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Wow, And why do you say that, because this is
just a fact.

Speaker 9 (01:27:33):
He is grew up to the core. He's the one
that was using his general counsel to not give out
that video footage. If it wasn't for him, the video
footage would have been out years ago. He was the
primary and keeping that footage out because all he had
to do was say, all right, release the footage and
it would have been released. They wouldn't have had to

(01:27:54):
fight it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
But we can't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Can't Speaker Johnson do that?

Speaker 9 (01:27:59):
Not if Major is telling them that if you release
this footage then you are compromising capital security. So not
even the Speaker of the House is going to go
against me. Because the Speaker of the House is not
an expert at security.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Major supposedly is and he was basically hired, am I correct?
To cover for Pittman and Gallagher.

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
That's why he was brought in to cover for them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
And he is acting chief of police or he is
the chief of police.

Speaker 9 (01:28:30):
He's the chief of police, and he was hired to
do that job. And he did a wonderful job protecting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Those two, protecting those two, all right, So is he
staying there or are they bringing somebody else in?

Speaker 9 (01:28:42):
I don't know if you guys heard, but Roger Stone, uh,
and with one of his investigator reporters, broke a story
that Major was under his company called Major Holdings with
ye yes, defense contracting defense contracts, and currently he was
bringing in millions of dollars under his business from contracts

(01:29:05):
into the Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
So after that, all right, he froze up. We're hoping
we're going to get about there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
He goes, after that, what happened?

Speaker 9 (01:29:17):
So I'll repeat it. So after after that story leaked
from Rogerstone and his investigative reporter, I think his name
was Thomas Smith, Major resigned after the story came out
that his company was he was getting money. His company
was getting money millions of dollars from from the Biden

(01:29:37):
administration defense contracts. I guess I don't know who they were,
but I heard the money was coming from the Biden administrations.
What I heard?

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
And how long ago was this? When did this occur?

Speaker 9 (01:29:49):
This was between since he was the Capitol police chief
from two dollars two thousand and one to probably present.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
All right, all right, now you've got big concerns about
who potentially could take that spot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Am I correct?

Speaker 9 (01:30:09):
So I recently found out that Major, who was supposed
to step down yesterday, has decided to stay on a
little bit longer. So I think he wants to stay
ontil the end of the month so they can say,
I guess he wants to try to have a say
and who is going to be the next chief of police.
Major put out a letter the other day, and I

(01:30:30):
have a copy of the letter. I'll be posting that
on X probably in the probably by tomorrow morning, before
the afternoon, I'll be posting that letter and Mainjiro after
the Ashley Babbitt settlement came out. But when I when
I say Major is totally a democratic operative that's exactly
what he is. He's all about the Democrats.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
And that we need to worry about. Who do we
need to worry about? That that may fill his shoes.

Speaker 9 (01:30:59):
Sean got If Shawn Gallagher, Shawn Gallagher takes over as
the chief, you can forget. January six will go down
in history as an insurrection caused by Donald Trump. If
Seawn Gallagher position is gonna make sure nothing comes out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
So it's meet the new boss, same as the old
boss doesn't. Doesn't you know, Speaker Johnson have any say
in this at all.

Speaker 9 (01:31:23):
Shawn Gallagher is a very powerful individual, so as was,
as was Pittman, as Major is now and as even
though he's leaving, he still has power, and he's probably
trying to pull strings as to who's going to take
over because it's important because if the wrong person gets
in and Maine's position, then they going to uncover everything,

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every dirty thing he did, it's going.

Speaker 12 (01:31:48):
To come out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
And he who appoints that position, who appoints the chief
of Capitol Police.

Speaker 9 (01:31:55):
The Capitol Police Board does that, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
So it's so the corruption is just so deep and
which is unbelievable, and you know, as lay people before
We got into this four and a half years ago
or so. You know, we just thought the Capitol Police
were there, and they you know, walked around the Capitol
and that's kind of who you see when you went
for your capital, you know whatever, when you visited the Capitol.

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But the amazing power that they have is eye opening.
It's totally eye opening. Do you feel they have more power?
Actually the Metro Police, at least right in that one
area by far.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Oh yeah, Metro Police doesn't have jurisdiction on Capitol grounds.

Speaker 12 (01:32:37):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
The only way they are allowed to be there, and
the only way they were allowed to have been there
on January sixth, is if the Capitol Police Board requested
formally that they come onto the grounds to assist.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
But that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
We don't know that that ever happened. Okay, and we're
gonna leave it. We're gonna leave it with that because
we got to go. It was a formal.

Speaker 9 (01:32:58):
Request, yes, son, because when everything broke out, he was
trying to get help to de escalate the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Okay. Well, it is good to know because we couldn't
find any proof of that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Thank you so much, Archie, thank you for being I
know you got to run and we'll close out the
show without you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
We appreciate you being here, man, and we hope to
have you back again. All right, we've lost him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Ron was perfect timing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, please go follow this man on X.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
He's put it all on the line to tell you
it's It would be so much easier for him to
have just gone away. Yeah, okay, and uh, all right,
we gotta go. We gotta go to the anthem. Gentlemen,
remove your hats. Ladies and gentlemen, hand over your hearts
for those beautiful national anthem efortsung that buy our beloved
Jay sixers. We'll see you next week, and we appreciate

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the fact that you trusted us with two hours of
your valuable time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Thank you, guys. God bless.

Speaker 12 (01:34:00):
And conserve.

Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
What I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Who is all ried and riding.

Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
Your girl.

Speaker 12 (01:34:38):
Mo swee

Speaker 7 (01:34:43):
Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all