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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hello everyone, and welcome to faith and Freedom. Are you
punching out the bad guys?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yes? I am faith and freedom and this is my
faith and freedom warrior wife. She's my wife, Ladies and gentlemen.
A moment of silence for how lucky I am. Okay,
that's long enough. Well, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Sad.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We also have an incredible guest that I want to
introduce in just a minute, but first I wanted to
talk about what's going on in the world. Too many
churches staying silent about this unseen battle, this spiritual warfare,
and angels and demons. They get brushed aside as if
they're outdated or uncomfortable, but scripture makes it clear that
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they're the very center of the struggles that we face
every single day. And that's maybe why Charlie Kirk's funeral ted.
It hit us so hard, and in churches it seems
like the message is watered down, And at Charlie Kirk's
funeral it looked like it was more meant to be
in church, with thousands of hands raised in worshiping and
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a message of faith and forgiveness right in the face
of loss.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Most people don't know this, but Charlie Kirk wanted to
go to West Point.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It never happened.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Obviously, his personal loss at that moment was our nation's
great gay. Charlie Kirk was a citizen who had the
biblical heart of a soldier of the faith, who put
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on every single day the full armor of God with
a smile, as the scriptures tell all christ followers to do.
For time, he realized, like so many of us have,
that this is not a political war.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's not even a cultural war. It's a spiritual war.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Ted, You watched the Charlie Kirk funeral and you don't
go to church with me often, but it seemed to
me like there was more church at his funeral than
there was in the churches that I go to.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, I watched the whole thing, and I obviously am
in the glow of Christianity every day with Schamaine as
my wife. And no, I don't go to the building
that is a church, but I spend every day in
God's miracle. And I have come to the conclusion, as
a young man of preteen, that I have a spiritual, moral,
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intellectual obligation to worship the Creator and to be a
steward of his precious life giving nature miracle. So I
would like to ask Pastor Anthony and my incredible Christian
wife Shamayne, as I'm a Christian, was the Charlie Kirk
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funeral the greatest Jesus celebration in our lifetime? I believe
it was, and I think that is a great, great
celebration and admission that America was founded on the purity
of good over evil Judeo Christian values. And even though
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I'm just a guitar player, much like Charlie Kirk in
many ways, I never went to college because I was
too busy learning stuff, important stuff, pragmatic stuff, utilitarian truth,
logic and common sense. So thank you, Chamaine and real
America's voice. We celebrate genuflecting at the altar of truth,
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logic and common sense. And I think Charlie Kirk's funeral
epitomized that. What a glory, glory, Hellelujah moment that was.
I think we are all returning to the churches of
our choice religion, spirituality and Christianity. So I think the enemy,
as his widow said, they have no idea what they
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have unleashed.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Bringing this around to Pastor Anthony Thomas. He's a Marine
Corps veteran, a prophetic voice, and the lead pastor of
Tip of the Spirit Church in Naples, Florida. Welcome Pastor Anthony.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Thank you Ted Schamaine. Honored to be with both of
you today.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Zep for five brother. Now the guitar players take Pastor
Anthony as a man of God. I think we all are.
Many of us admit it, more and more are beginning
to admit it. And as a US Marine who has
to improvise, adapt and overcome as we all should. Was
my take reasonable for just a civilian guitar player. Is
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that not the pulse that we're witnessing right now?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Absolutely, because you saw in that number one, you saw
a man who was willing to give his life, and
the Bible's very clear no greater love than he lay
down his life for his friend. So we saw the
highest act of bravery that you could espouse to in
the Kingdom of God, someone that was a voice that
was shaking up the world around us. And you saw
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the reflection of that in that meeting, of the presence
of God breaking out and I think it's important when
we talk about the church. The Greek word for churches ecclesea,
it means the called out ones. It means the church's people.
The Bible says, do not forsake the assembling of the brethren.
That's a church meeting, or I always like to call
it a good huddle. And just like anyone that played sports,
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a huddle is good. That's where you get direction. But
the game is out there in this thing called life.
And we saw the ecclesea, the called out ones, come
together in power, in strength, and in people that have
had enough of being quiet anymore. I told my congregation,
we did two different messages on it, and I told
them very clearly, if your pastor did not mention Charlie
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Kirk and what he did, get the hell out of
that church, because that is an apostate church. Because if
we cannot honor someone that gave his life for the
Kingdom of God and his service with Jesus, then we
have what Jesus called the Laodicean church, which is neither
hot nor warm. Jesus said he wanted to puke it
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out of his mouth, and that's where a lot of
the churches have been right now, they've been in a
lukewarm state. But when you watch someone give their life
for the kingdom, you cannot look at that and what
happened and remain neutral. Either it will move you for
and your temperature hotter for Christ, or you'll become more
cold and indifferent towards the things of God. But you
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cannot leave in a neutral state. No one could have
watched that amazing time and even his wife willing to
forgive someone who had just murdered her husband. You cannot
watch that and remain neutral. And so I agree with you, Ted.
That was the display of what the church is supposed
to look like, on fire, powerful and representing the virtues
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of the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You know, I want to hear my wife, but I
have to mention that you're talking about a huddle. You're
talking about people. I have a spirit campfire every weekend
at our sunrise acres here with hunters coming from all
around the world to hunt with me. Because I have
a big mouth, which proves I've not been quiet. I
have never been cold or lukewarm. No, I refuse. I
don't ruffle feathers, I pluck them and then I roast
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the feather bear. The point is is that every thing
you're saying, I'm not a Bible guy. Chamaine is a
Bible studier. You are a Bible representative. But isn't my
daily instinctual activity biblical? I got, I have goosebumps. I
have a huddle every day with people.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And here's what I wanted to touch on. And we're
looking forward to having Pastor Anthony on the whole show,
So stick around everybody who are watching. But I wanted
to circle back to we've only got another minute or two.
Ephesian six twelve says we don't wrestle against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
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darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness and high places.
We're going to get into that, Pastor Anthony, and a
little bit more when we're with you in the next
couple of segments. But I think that's what the media
is trying to do, is have us wrestle against each other.
That's why this was so emotional for so many people.
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We cried because they took out one of the good guys.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, you know, you're talking about huddling and we the people.
I couldn't be more more proud that we're talking against
principalities and people that abuse power, people in power for places.
I've got these bureaucrats on the run. I've got Texas
Parks and Wildlife corrupt criminal power, abusing bureaucrats on the run.
I got the Michigan Department of Natural Resource power abusing
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corrupt bureaucrats on the run. If you haven't got bought,
if you haven't got bad people on the run, you're
not doing God's work. We're not supposed to compromise. We're
not supposed to play gate and go well. I'd rather
not get into an argument, get into an argument and
win with truth, logic, and common sense.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I agree with you one hundred and ten percent. To
go back to your statement that I think the devil
is more afraid of people of action. They may not
have all the biblical scriptures to go with it. That's
part of my job is to educate people in the
Word of God. But what they have is they have faith,
they have to and they understand things are wrong, and
they're willing to fight against evil. And many of them
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are doing high level of spiritual warfare without knowing it,
because you cannot take on natural forces of power without
there being supernatural forces of power behind it. And so
whether they know it or not, they are engaging the
spiritual realm. And you've been engaging the spiritual realm for
many years.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and you know we're going to get into this
deeper in the next few segments. I got to go
get a cleanex because I'm already getting teary eyed here.
This is such an emotional time. But Pastor Anthony, can
you stick around for three more segments?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yes, would be honored too.
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but we are going to punch out the enemy. We're
bringing Pastor Anthony Thomas from Tip of the Spirit Church
back in. We're talking about spiritual warfare.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Anthony, are you there? What is spiritual What is spiritual warfare?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
When did you first see it? I'd be fascinated to
see when you first saw the explosion. It wasn't it
wasn't an increment. It was an explosion of spiritual warfare.
How longgo did you witness this?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
So interesting? You asked that Ted, It would have been
probably almost twenty five years ago, I had just gotten saved.
I got saved about a year before I got out
of the Marines, was addicted to alcohol and a lot
of stuff, and I got mandated to go see a
based chaplain named Chaplin Parker wonderful and I went to
his services. Never was exposed to anything like that, And
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I remember going up to the Alturk call and giving
my life to Christ knowing two things. Number One, if
I died, I had definitely earned a one way ticket
straight to Hell. Number Two, if Jesus was real and
he really loved me, I wasn't going to turn away
from that offer. Well, then I got into I'd seen
so much demonic stuff in my life, growing up in
a very rough life, and a lot of things I've seen,
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and there were certain things that there was no other
description you could give than evil. And I knew there
were forces behind because I could fill them, but I
didn't have a framework, and I never forget. I went
to a Christian bookstore and a book literally almost fell
off the shelf called Spiritual Warfare by Richard Ing. It's
a very old book, and once I opened it up,
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I was absolutely and I thought, why are we not
seeing this within the church world. So I started getting
into spiritual warfare. And then within a year I got
connected with my dear friend, Pastor Jess Parker and later
Pastor Dave Bryan, who took on Anton Levy, the founder
of the Church of Satan, and they were in the
middle of deliverance ministry. And I jumped right into it,
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not only to get free for myself first, but then
to start helping other people. And once I found out
you can actually make those things that had tormented me
and other people route hurt and feel pain for all
the havoc they had caused, it was the greatest joy
in my life. You know. You see in Luke, I
want to share the scripture Luke ten seventeen and nineteen says,
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then the seventy returned with joy, telling Jesus, even the
demons are subject to us in your name. And he
said to them, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
So one of the things when we understand spiritual warfare,
and I'm going to get into this little more as
we go on. War started in heaven before it ever
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hit down on earth. The Battle on the Earth is
the second campaign. War started before time that we know
what began in heaven. And that's a key thing to understand,
because one of the things I wanted to grasp was
why is the world around me in such a mess?
One of the greatest authors I've ever read in my
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life he said this statement. He said I could sum
the whole Bible up in one statement. I go, Okay,
here we go. Let's see. He said, the Bible is
a love story written in the context or in the
midst of a war. And when you understand that, this
life makes sense. Horrible things happen to good people in war.
There are casualties, there are people missing in action, there
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are prisoners of war, there are enemies, there are different battlefronts.
And once I understood that, and then I went to
the Gospel of Mark ted and I highlighted or underlined
every encounter Jesus had was Satan or the demonic, and
I found out it was almost one third of the
Gospel of Mark. And I thought, how is something so
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much in the Bible, yet we hear so little about
it in the Church. And that started my quest to
not only get in the spiritual warfare, but to try
to educate people so that they can fight the battle.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
You sent me this book.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I was going to save this till the last segment
of it, but it seems appropriate you sent me this book,
and I want to The title is besides Still Waters,
and he outlined a few things for me. One of
them says, God does not put heavy burdens on weak shoulders.
And also, as God gives you greater skill as a
soldier of the Cross, he will send you more difficult missions.
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And let's talk about that for a minute, Pastor Anthony.
There are a lot of people out there who are
having a difficult time, especially with Charlie. What happened with
Charlie Kirk. This is a spiritual awakening. I just got goosebumps. Okay,
what's going on right now in this world? People are
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waking up.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, you can't not wake up right now. If you're
not waking up, your spiritually numb and absolutely Spurgeon who
wrote that book, Charles Spurgeon, the Prince of Preachers, one
of the greatest preachers of all time. He said, God
chooses his best soldiers out of the highlands of affliction,
meaning what if you've been through some stuff, you're probably
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going to be used by God and if you have
no attack in your life against you, it means you're
doing absolutely nothing. Satan is a master general and a
master strategist, and he's been destroying mankind for thousands of years.
He took one third of the angels with him in
the great rebellion that happened in heaven. And he is
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about his business, just as Jesus said, I must be
about my father's business. There are two kingdoms and massive
war right now, and we're in one of the most
intense campaigns of it. But here's the thing. If you
are effective in the battle and Satan views you as
a threat, he is going to send high level soldiers
against you spiritually and naturally because they work together to
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stop you in what you're doing. The reason a lot
of churches and a lot of people, and when I
say churches, I don't mean the real church, I mean
the Laodicean lukewarm church is because they're not effective. Satan
does not have to send troops against them because they're
not advancing the Kingdom of God. But understand this, if
you are advancing the Kingdom of God, there will be
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attack against you. And to the effectiveness and the degree
that you are successful is the level of what Satan
is going to have to send against you. So I
don't enjoy being attacked, but I thank God I am
because it tells me I'm doing something in the battlefield.
And it's the same with you guys. It's the same
with anyone that's standing for the kingdom. And that's why
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Charlie Kirk had the massive amount of forces against him,
because he was such a great soldier on the battlefield,
and that's why we honor him greatly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And Luke ten nineteen, Jesus said, I give you the
authority to trample on serpents and scorpions and over.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
All the power of the enemy. What would that look like, Anthony,
if I.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Got goosebumps again, if we actually all walked in that
authority today.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, the interesting Chamaine, that Greek word is exusia. It
means privilege. That's what authority means. So when the woke
people came up with, well you're talking with privilege. Yes,
I am privileged. I'm privileged by God to stomp the enemy.
And that's what it says. It says, the privilege I
give you, the authority I give you will overcome Satan's power.
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And that word power in the Greek is dounamus. That's
where we get dynamite, meaning the privilege God's give you
is to crush Satan's best and we look at it,
says over serpents and scorpions. All of Satan's army is
formed in two different ranks. Serpents represent Satan's ability to deceive.
So when we look at deceiving spirits such as much
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we see in our media, you're dealing with snakes. When
you talk about scorpions, those are Satan's power to torment
and that's why he tempts people, seduces them, deceives them,
and then as soon as he gets you, then he
switches teams and moves from a snake to a scorpion
and starts to torment you by condemning you. God said,
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we have the power the authority through Christ to stalk
both snakes and scorpions, meaning we can overcome temptation and
we can overcome torment because of bad decisions we may
have made in the past. That's the privilege we have
as sons and daughters are the most i God. So
someone who ask you yes.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
For years in my media and my public speaking on
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and sharing and educating in our own way. You don't
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have to do it. You don't have to be given
or provided a bully pulpit, just as gift of life
from God, we have a bully pulpit. And I've always
raised hell that the worst curse of mankind, worse than liberalism,
worse than the democrats in Marxists and communists and in
furers and emperors and dictators, is apathy because lack of
action is actually a welcome mat for evil, actually the
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red carpet for abusive power. I give you the US
government over all over, over all these years in the media,
in Hollywood and academia, and these people that are literally
trampling on our rights. So the number one prayer I
believe in America today, the most important effective prayer is
to communicate with your loved ones that don't see the light,
that still cling to the darkness. And that I hate
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America and I hate Trump because he secured the borders,
because he keeps penises out of women's locker rooms, because
he's reducing crime. Apathy is the worst curse of mankind.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, we only have about thirty seconds, Anthony, and you're
going to be sticking around for two more segments.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But any response to that, real quick, Yes, what.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Ted said is accurate, and apathy leads to being a coward.
And Revelation is very clear. When it goes over the
list of those who will be thrown in the lake
of fire, the first word it says is the coward.
So cowardness is not something that is esteemed highly in
the Kingdom of God. Jesus doesn't like it. The Bible
doesn't like it, and neither should you. And so when
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you are apathetic, it will lead you to being cowardly
and not speak up when you should.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Amen, stick around a minute. We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
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Speaker 1 (23:45):
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Speaker 6 (23:52):
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Speaker 2 (23:59):
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Anthony Thomas, welcome back. We're going to have to do
these more often with Anthony ted and Schamaine.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But we want to get we got it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
We want to get back into the fall of Satan
and where it all started from.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Go ahead and take it away, okay.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
So we go back to what Jesus said, I saw
Satan fall like light. And then at Ezekiel, one of
the great profits of the Bible is going to go
over a natural king, and then he's going to go
over a spiritual king, Lucifer that felled. So we see
governmental leaders many times look a lot like Satan because
it's exactly what happened in the Bible. So he says
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this in Ezekiel twenty eight, starting in verse eleven. Moreover,
the word of the Lord came to me, saying, son
of man, take up lamentation. This is a great thought.
As you start. If you follow Satan, you're going to
live a sad life, because that's what it said. Take
up lamentation for the king of Tire and say to him.
That says the Lord God. Now he's going to switch
from a natural king to Lucifer's Paul. He said you
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were the seal of perfection. So I want you to
get this number one. Satan was perfect in the Kingdom
of God and the kingdom of darkness.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Can I interrupt you right there?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yes, this is what was interesting to me when I've
read Ezekiel twenty eight. It says, Yeah, Lucifer was full
of wisdom and perfect in beauty. He had everything. He
had glory and power and access to God's very presence.
So why would God create Lucifer with such glory if
he knew that this would lead to his fall?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Because God believes in free will, and God gives us
the opportunity to choose good or bad, and without it,
God would not be a god who honors freedom and
honors free will. Otherwise he would have made simply robots,
which is what they're trying to make right now, on
us with AI and make us into robotic. He gave
us moral free will to choose good or bad. We
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see with the angels one third of them chose to
follow Lucifer in this fall that we're going to go over,
and two thirds did not. It's the same with humanity.
We can choose to follow Christ or we could choose not.
So going back to what it said here, Chamaine, on
what you were saying, he says you were the seal
of perfection. So number one, Satan in the Kingdom of God.
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God is absolutely good all the time. Okay, He's nothing
but good, and Satan is nothing. But people are a
mix of good and evil, and that's why it's hard
for us to understand the devil. He is absolute evil.
If you struggle with perfectionism, this is partly why. Okay.
So it says full of wisdom. Notice it didn't say
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perfect in wisdom. So we see here God did not
give Satan old wisdom. Otherwise he would have seen when
he was going to crucify Christ what was going to happen.
He did not show him certain things. He was full
of wisdom, not perfect in wisdom. God is perfect in
wisdom and perfect in beauty. So this is very key.
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People that have very good looks. Okay, many times can
become very conceited. And as we go through this progression
here and I'm going to skip a few things, as
we don't have It was in Eden, the Garden of God.
So we know number one, Eden did not start on
the earth. Eden on the earth was a copy of
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Eden in heaven, and so that's a key that this
war broke out in God's room front room in heaven
before it did in earth. Earth is the second campaign
of the battle, not the first. And then fourteen, it
says you were the anointed cherub who covered Most theologians
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believe that Lucifer covered the throne of God. Okay, Michael,
the warring Angel covered Jesus Christ the Sun, and Gabriel
the Archangel covered the Holy Spirit. Each one of these
cherub had one third of God's army under their charge.
And we're gonna see later here in Revelation. That's why
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it says the dragon's tail swept one third of the
stars out of Heaven or one third of the angels.
And it says you were perfect verse fifteen in the
in your ways from the day you were created. Now,
notice that Satan is a created being. He is not
like God that he was always eternal. It says till
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iniquity was found in you. And we're going to get
into the next one on what the iniquity was that
was in Satan's heart. But I think this is very
important to understand. Number One is this The battle started
in heaven, not on earth. The battle started in God's
front room. And God was a perfect father. So sometimes
families that get blown to hell in a handbasket and
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people after go what happened? I thought, I did this
and that how could this happen to me? Well, guess what.
God is well acquainted with war breaking out in his
own family and in his own front room, and he
was a perfect father. So just fathom that Chamaine Satan
is the one that tries to destroy families.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know what's interesting is that is not only history,
it's happening now, and that is what spiritual warfare is
all about. That some people might not understand what lessons
past Anthony should the church be looking at and us
what lessons can we take from Lucifer's pride and fall.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
That Number one, whatever you have, it's been given by God.
And that's why you can't pride came from Satan. It
is the first sin that anytime there's pride, you're going
to see division and war. And what Jesus came to bring,
even being in the highest position, was humility. And humility
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will always destroy Satan's kingdom because humility is understanding. Humility
is not saying that what you have you don't have.
People will. Let's say you have great looks. Humility is
not saying you're not a good looking person. What humility
says is whatever I have, looks, intellect, finances, position, whatever
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I have was given by God for God, and I
will have to give an account to God for it
because I'm a steward of it. I did not create
that in myself. God gave it to me. Satan thought
that what he had was because of himself, and that
is the sin. When we fall into that, we're in
deep yogurt.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Deep deep yogurt.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We started out by talking about Charlie Kirk's funeral and
how that looked more like a church service. Do you
think it's and I think I know your answer to
this that we are living in the end times because
of this greade awaken not just because of this great awakening,
but because of how all of this has been set
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up over the ages, and it feels like you told
me once before that this is the beginning of the
fourth quarter if we're playing a basketball game.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yea, yeah, And I still believe that, Jamaine, we're in
the fourth quarter. How far in it? Only God knows,
and I know people that, and I study revelation and
all the different eschatology and in time books as much
as anyone else. Okay, but I will tell you this,
there's still a lot of mystery involved in it, and
God is going to be a stingy on certain details
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of the Bible. But we should know the times and
the seasons. That's what it said of the sons of
Visit car. They knew the times and seasons and what
to do. So we are this thing is wrapping up.
How quick it's going to be, there's a lot of
different factors in that. But because of that, we should
fight valiantly knowing this thing is going to come to
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an end. Christ is going to return, and when he does,
he is going to win in a decisive and game
over type of way that only he could do.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What would you recommend? We've got about one minute left
in this segment. You're I'm blessed enough to have you in.
Our audience is blessed to have you here for another segment.
We're going to have to do this more often where
we just do Bible study, maybe once a month, because
this show is called Faith and Freedom. What would you
recommend to people in our last minute where to get
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started in the Bible if they've never heard about angels
and demons in Satan's fall and Pride and Lucifer and
all of this.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I like that this may be a little bit wild
for some people, but I believe get in the Book
of Genesis because it's the beginning of all things, and
get in the Book of Revelation. It's kind of like
if you've seen the first scene of a movie and
then you fast forward it to the end. Then you
start filling in the gaps in between, and a lot
of it may not make sense, but you will start
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to fill in the books. I studied Revelation right after
I got saved, and I didn't understand most of it,
but I fell in love with it because I saw
the end of the movie and I knew how the
end of the movie was going to play, and then
it caused me to want to go back and watch
the movie from the beginning on. So I would encourage
that to people. That's kind of unorthodox advice, but I'm
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an unorthodox pastor.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Well that's a perfect segue because our next segment, we're
going to talk about the Book of Revelation. Pastor Anthony,
where can people find you online?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
We're on Rumble if you put Tip of the Spear
and then www dot Tip of the Spirit church dot org.
That's our church website. And we do very relevant, impactual
videos that I encourage you to watch. If you spend
the time and watch them, you're going to get strengthened
in your faith. You're going to be equipped, and you're
going to be ready for the bottle.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Pastor Anthony Thomas, join us for the next segment, and
everybody else will be right back.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Don't go away.
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Well, there's the opportunity to be an outsider because it's
the outside is to change the world.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Well, there's the opportunity to be an outsider because it's
the outside is to change the world.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
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back with Pastor Anthony Thomas, and I wanted to ask
him a little bit about before we dive into Revelation.
This is a book that he sent to me and
it is called Besides Still Waters, and I want to
read a quote from it that really is pertinent. I
think to Revelation. The trumpet still plays the notes of war.
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You cannot sit down and put the victory wreath on
your head. You do not have a crown. You still
must wear the helmet and carry the sword. You must watch,
prey and fight. Expect your last battle to be the
most difficult, for the enemy's fierce charged charge is reserved
for the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Take it away, Pastor Anthony.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I mean, if that doesn't sum up Charlie Kirk's life,
I don't know what does I mean? I know right,
Satan reserved his best for last, and he ended victoriously.
You know, Revelation goes back to this war, and it's
something that we have to understand of when this thing started.
Revelation twelve four says speaking of the dragon, it says
his tail drew a third of the stars of heaven
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and threw them to the earth. So we know this
war that broke out in heaven is now on the earth.
And the dragon stood before the woman. Now, when we
study revelation, there's always dual prophecy, and that means the
Bible says as in the natural, so in the spiritual.
So we know this took place when Christ himself was
born on the earth, when Satan tried to kill him
as a baby. And we also know that there's a
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company of believers that is going to come before this
thing wraps up, that will be overcomers of everything that
Satan's going to throw in. And the dragon stood before
the woman who was ready to give birth. Isn't this
interesting to devour her child as soon it was born?
So Number one, we get this anytime you see abortion.
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That's why Satan's always around it, because he is the
dragon that goes to devour the brand new babies or
the unborn. Number two, anytime God births something in the
spirit in our life, a new opportunity, new situation, something
that comes from God, Satan will try to kill it
in its infancy state. That's a very important principle. And
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then Revelation twelve seven and nine says, and war broke
out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought with the dragon,
and the dragon and his angels fought. Isn't that interesting?
All of Heaven was engaged in this battle. So to
be a Christian and think that you're going to live
a Christian life and not be in the fight is
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unbiblical because we see in heaven all of the forces
fought together verse but did not prevail, nor was a
place found from them. That word place chemaine in the
Greek is topas it's where we get topography or a
literal geographical location. So says they did not prevail, nor
was a place found for them, and heaven any longer.
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So what did God do? God kick their butt out
of heaven Amen verse nine. So the great dragon was
cast out, that serpent of old called the devil and
Satan who deceives the whole world. Isn't that interesting? He
doesn't just come to deceive nations. He deceives the whole world,
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which is why when the anti christ regime comes in
and we're watching it start to form. Those who are
not in Christ that stand in the truth will be deceived.
Jesus said, it will be as the days of Noah.
We know in Noah's time, Satan deceived the whole world
minus one man. His family ended up getting saved because
of it, but only one man was not deceived in
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the entire world. Think of that Chamaine. It says he
was cast of the earth and his angels were cast
out with him. So that is the battle we dwell
in right now. Michael and his angels are still fighting.
The dragon and his angels are still fighting, and the
Church should be fighting on behalf of Christ. That's the
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times we live in right now.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And when you say the church, you also mean believers,
those of us who are here battling.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I feel a little let down, I'll be honest, by
the physical churches that are out there today.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Not many.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I've always said, Anthony, I wish you were in my town,
because I'd be going to your church every Sunday or
whenever it is, twice a week, three times a week.
But so many pastors are afraid to talk about spiritual warfare,
to talk about angels and demons in this spiritual war
that we're witnessing right now. And like you brought up
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a few segments ago, they were even afraid to address
Charlie Kirk's death. There has never been another human being.
I don't think that brought more people to Christ than
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yes, well, you look at Chamaine. There's three types of
church biblically, and I shared this a Slas weekend in
a service other than.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Obviously other than Jesus. I know I'm going to get feedback.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
No other than Jesus. Three things. Number one, there's the
overcomer church, and not all the promises and revelation are
to the church. And there were seven different churches to
he who overcomes. So there's the church that's the overcoming
church or the victorious church. There's the church that's the
overcome church. That's the church that's going along to get along,
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not advancing, not winning. And then there's what the Bible
calls the harlot church, which is not a church at all.
And I think the Laodician church, which is the lukewarm church.
Jesus said he wanted to vomit that church out of
his mouth. Okay, so we look at there are three
different types of biblical churches overcoming church, overcome church, and
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the lukewarm which leads to the Apostate church. And so
I think that's where individuals. We don't want to lump
churches that are overcoming in and there's some good churches
that are being overcomed right now and I'm hoping this
event with Charlie Kirk was a turning point for them
and turn them from being overcome to being overcomers. And
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then there's the apostate church that Jesus doesn't recognize. So
I think for your audience out there, you need to
identify which one is your church, and if it's an
apostate church, get the hell out of there. If it's
a church that's being overcomed, see if the pastor and
the leadership is willing to step in, maybe they're just uninformed.
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And then if your church is an overcoming church, then
stay there and enjoy and grow and live victoriously. But
those are the three biblical churches we see in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well too many of them have, especially megachurches, have boards
that they have to answer to. They have to recite
their message during the week before they presented on a
Sunday morning, and that's What I love about what you
do is sometimes you might have things planned out and
then God moves you to talk about something completely different
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than you do.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Absolutely, because the Bible says that the Holy Spirit is
supposed to be leading. He reminds us of the things
of Christ. And the Bible is very clear as the Spirit,
the Spirit of God, knows the deep things of God.
So there may and there are Another scripture says, as
the wind blows and you know not which direction it's going,
so are those who are born of the spirit. So
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the Holy Spirit is going to move whatever way he
wants to move. And if we're preachers of the Gospel,
we have to stay flexible. We call it the marine
semper gumby meaning always flexible, because things will switch in
the middle. I've had many times where I've prepared a
message and odd literally five minutes before goes no, I
want you to share something else. And I have learned
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to just go where the Holy Spirit leads, because he
will always bring us into the right spot. He knows
the will of God, he knows the mind of God,
and he knows the deep things of God, and he
will always lead us to where Jesus is at Jesus said,
wherever I'm at, my servant will be. Also, we need
the Holy Spirit to lead us where Christ is at
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right now.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Pastor Anthony Thomas Tip of the Spirit Church, thank you
so much for joining me and I'm hoping you'll come
back again soon.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Yeah, Jamaine, wonderful time. Thank you and thank Ded. It's
always a wonderful time to hang out with you guys.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
God bless Okay, this hour went by fast. You know
what time it is. Take a look at this.
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and I.
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ups on my head, thinking for then.
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But there's one thing I know.
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It won't be to have me thself to we have
done it again, because.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I hope that may you smile. Thank you so much
for watching today. It's been a very special program. I'll
be here every Sunday. I hope you will to remember
Esther four fourteen. You were born for this time. It's exciting.
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Speaker 6 (48:11):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's
the outsiders to change the world.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this