July 16, 2025 • 46 mins
Human Events on Real America's Voice
Segment A: It’s Never Been About Epstein, it’s Always Been About His Victims
Segment B: An Inside Look at one of Epstein’s First Clients
Segment C: Solutions for Getting the Truth About Epstein
Segment D: The Increased Attacks on ICE Agents
Segment E: Will Trump Appoint a Special Prosecutor to Investigate the Epstein files?
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So Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, the man who will never die,
The man who will never die. See a lot of
people are asking, and I, of course I saw President
Trump's truth social his comments earlier today in the Oval
(02:32):
Office regarding this. I also Am told about an interview
that he held with John Solomon, our colleague here at
Real America's Voice, which will air later tonight in the
six pm hour, where he talks about releasing any legitimate
information that the government does have on Jeffrey Epstein, and
specifically he mentions that's for the prosecutor to do.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
So.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The question is, of course, does that mean that he
supports the special prosecutor that many of us have been
calling for on Epstein.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
But I want to get into a broader.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sense, Okay, the Epstein list was never about Epstein, the person,
the man man who was by the way, brought to
justice by the original Trump administration. It was about everyone
else involved, who are perhaps still in positions of influence
out in the world, out in the world of business,
(03:26):
in tech and Silicon Valley.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's why it matters. Epstein may be dead, but his
clients and his network isn't It could be all over
We're talking Hollywood, banks, media, perhaps even in positions of
government or foreign government.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We don't know. That's the point.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So at the end of the day, it is about
the victims one hundred percent and getting justice for them.
But on another level, It's about taking the fight to
the deep state.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
A deep state that has been the thorn.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
In the side of MAGA since day one, a deep
state that's been going after President Trump since day one,
and a deep state which absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Knows more than they're letting on and they simply do.
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We're gonna have Mike Benson soon to break this down
even further to talk more about and we've done for
years investigations on Epstein here and we.
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you are very excited to have Mike Ben's on here,
the executive director of the Foundation Freedom Online. Ben's. You know,
you've been someone who's you know, you're you're pretty quiet
about the Epstein case. It's not really something that you've
covered a lot. Is there anything that you want to
add here? I mean, I know it's not really your
Bailey Wick.
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Ah, No, I think I said up. No, I'm kidding obviously. No.
Speaker 11 (07:23):
The reason that I'm Mike that the Epstein is a
da story.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That that people are trying to tie it to President Trump,
I think is the opposite way to look at it,
because I think what people are trying to do is
actually see where the web goes to the people that
we know or as you don't know, that are associated already.
Because President Trump's role in this has been looked into,
and actually, as far as I can tell, he's the
only one who comes out actually smelling pretty good.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Well, if you remember what was it twenty fifteen, twenty
sixteen when in a public interview I think it was
even on a maybe not the debates, but you know
that quote where Trump says he's asked about I think
Bill Clinton or Hillary and he says, well, he's going
to have a forum a problem with a little guy
named Jeffrey Epstein. And yeah, I mean Trump was using
(08:14):
you know, the Epstein stuff as a sword against you know,
the Clinton family when he ran for president, so you know,
to call it a Democrat hoast.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Now they look, everyone knows you know what this is.
You can't, you know.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
Trump wants us to go away for a myriad of reasons,
and some of them.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Are quite legitimate. I have a very.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
Different take, I think, on the Epstein situation than than
most of the folks that I that I think are
are covering it in terms of what I think the
nature of the intelligence relationship that Epstein had was, and
I think that you know, I'm mostly focused on Epstein's
role as a financial facilitator for governments and doing so
(09:00):
in a covert fashion that would make this driven by
intelligence rather than formal diplomatic channels. And rather than on
the kind of blackmail side of this, which is I
think what Epstein is more commonly known as in MAGA parlance.
And so I think that Trump's instincts of saying, well, listen,
if if we talk about all the different names here,
(09:22):
it's going to there's not going to be any context report,
and they're going to be associated with child sex trafficking
when really they didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
I think that is true.
Speaker 11 (09:33):
The issue is is the intelligence question is unanswered, and
I think very deliberately unanswered because of what it would
entail to reveal. But I believe that the intelligence side
of the equation when it comes to Epstein has primarily
to do with Epstein's role as a financial fixer rather
(09:53):
than as some sort of sexual blackmailer. But I think
that the Pambondi Justice Department probably does not know where
to look for that information around around you know, covert
financing for cover and action, and so I think a
lot of it is getting congested at the DOJ layer,
mixed with the fact that the national security community as
(10:16):
well as international partners would not necessarily love that information
to be made public.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Right, And of course you know, the intelligence community would
love someone who would be able to essentially run their
slush funds for them for black operations. There's even been
some reporting recently that Epstein, one of his original clients
may have been add Non Koshogi, who was directly tied
to Iran Contra. And of course we all know about
(10:46):
his son, Jamal Koushogi. And so right there, you're you're
looking at ways for someone for the intel community to
be able to reach out find a note. They did
this many times in the past with private industry, where
you reach out and find some famous figure to be
able to put something out for them so that it
(11:07):
doesn't actually have to be on their books.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
That's exactly right. In fact, Iran Contra was ran the
exact way you know. On On Koshogi was the guy
who started the Iran Contra affair. He was the reportedly
wealthiest man in the world. At one point, he was
the richest arms He was the richest arms dealer.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
In world history.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
He made three times more in commissions for Lockheed Martin
than every other commissions agent for Lockheed Martin combined, over
three times more than every other commissions agent combined. He
was the CIA's top arms dealer as well as illicit
and covert arms dealer for all activity in the Middle East.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
And he was the one, this saudy you.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Know, billionaire, who flew to the White House in nineteen
eighty three to meet with Robert McFarlane, the National Security Advisor,
to pitch the idea of having US weapons shipped to
Israel and then delivered to Iran and then have the
proceeds siphoned off to support the contras, the Nicaraguan contras,
(12:14):
to hit two birds with one stone.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Two illegal activities.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
There was an arms embargo on Iran, so that was illegal,
and Congress had passed the bull And Amendment banning funds
going to the Nicaraguan contras, and so it had.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
To be structured as a covert action.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
This could not be formally done above the light, you know,
in the light of day by the Reagan administration. So
they used a They used basically Saudi and Israeli financiers
and weapons dealers in order to do two bird, you
knock out two birds with one stone. And as you
mentioned in Epstein's own words, he said in nineteen eighty
(12:50):
seven that Odenan Kushoki was one of his personal clients.
Nineteen eighty seven was the middle of Iran Contra. That
was that ran from nineteen eighty five, read in nineteen
eighty eight. So and who was at the Justice Department
at the time, it was it was at the CIA
at the time. Actually it was Bill Barr. Bill Barr
started his career in the CIA. He worked there for
(13:13):
six years during Iran Contra as Bill Barr's father will
also work for the CIA, and you know, basically had
hired Jeffrey Epstein to the Dalton School while Donald Barr
was was head master there and then Donald and then
Bill Barr was the cover up.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
According to the New York Times, you know ran.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Aheadline calling Bill Barr the quote cover up general of
Iran contra because he was the one who blocked access
to CIA records when there was an investigation into that
covert action and then you know, basically orchestrated you know,
the pardons and cover ups into that very affair that
(13:55):
Jeffrey Epstein's whole network ran through, including Jeffrey Epstein himself.
A lot this has to do with the fact that
there was that in the late nineteen seventies when Iran,
when the Iranian Revolution happened, and the government that had
been backed by both the US, Israelis and Brits within
Iran when that government was toppled in Iran, combined with
(14:17):
Jimmy Carter severing the capacities of the CIA from nineteen
seventy nine through the nineteen eighties, an offshore private, self sustained,
standalone covert financing operation network had to be tapped into
in order to run operations that the CIA was getting
in trouble for directly facilitation.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
It is outside of.
Speaker 11 (14:40):
Facilitators, and Epstein was one of them. This explains A. S.
Greenberg at bear Stearns. This explains Edgar Bromfley in the
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Speaker 1 (16:30):
Back to Mike Ben's now, Mike, you were talking about
all of these different nodes that roll up with Epstein.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I want to shift gears here.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We got a couple of minutes left in this segment
and go all the way through and talk about Look,
there's this idea that a lot of us called for
when we were down in Tampa. I was there with Charlie,
I was there with Steve Bennon, and a lot of
us are pushing for a special prosecutor. President Trump has
said twice yesterday and once he mentioned it even again
today we're told that he all so said it as
(17:00):
well in this pre taped interview. It's going to be
with John Solomon airs on Real Mark his Voice later
tonight six pm. And I hope everyone is tuning in.
I know I certainly will be to that where he's
calling for a special prosecutor and says, if there is
legitimate information out there, let's release it. So Ben's I say,
we take that ball and roll and run with it.
(17:21):
You know, we're talking about the criminal charges, but also
you're talking about these financial operations that he was involved in.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
All of this information as well.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
Yeah, that's exactly right, So you could do it through
a special prosecutor. You could do it through a transparency
working group. Ed Martin, for example, is now running this
weaponization task for US within DJ. I think that that
would also be an appropriate place to spearhead and investigation.
I think when you start looking into the Epstein story,
what you see is a very very technical, detail laden
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story that laces its way through through US foreign policy,
through Middle East foreign policy, through a Western ally foreign policy,
through North African country foreign policy. I don't think Pam
Bondy is you know, with her, given all the other
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responsibilities that she has as the head of the US
Justice Department, is the person who you know is or
should be the keeper of all you know? I think
she needs to be personally spearheading this this sort of thing.
I don't think that, you know, she necessarily has the background,
experience or know how in this particular thing. What you
(18:41):
need is somebody within DJ who will be tasked with
what to ask for, who will spend their time on
this in the details of the case, and what you
need from Pam BONDI is basically the muscle applied in
order to greenlight and make sure that documents are delivered
to the task for or special prosecutor from the relevant agencies.
(19:03):
And so this is why I stress that Pambondi, as
Attorney General, has an office that reports directly to her.
It's called OPR, the Office of Professional Responsibility.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
In November twenty twenty, two weeks after.
Speaker 11 (19:16):
Trump lost the twenty twenty election, but while Bill Barr
was still running the Justice Department, an investigation was that
had taken I think something like it was from February
twenty nineteen to November twenty twenty. So this is like
(19:36):
a twenty one month investigation that OPR led into the
plea deal cut for Epstein and investigated alex Acosta and
his statements that Epstein quote belonged to intelligence and whether
that played a factor into the plea deal. Now you're
talking about a huge, sweeping, enormously lengthy investigation by the
(19:58):
Justice Department OPR into this exact question. Now, all we
got in the three hundred and forty eight page report
that Justice Department released but then weirdly deleted from its website,
even though.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
You can find it through other channels.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
In that three hundred and forty eight page report, there
is a very limited hangout question which is asked, first
of all, there's no transcript.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
There's a summary, one line.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Description that OPR investigators.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
Asked Acosta, did you acknowledge.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
That Epstein Epstein was an intelligence asset? And Acosta told
us the answer is no, Well, that is not the
right question to ask. That question is because I don't
think Epstein would have been an asset. Financial fixers, financial
facilitators almost never are. I did a recent study into this,
and eight out of ten financial fixers from that same
(20:51):
era were not CIA assets. There was no human intelligence
to a one file on them. They were never formally recruited.
What they were were winning cooperative contacts. They were liaisons, facilitators.
They didn't work for the agency, but they worked with
the agency to broker international deals that the State Department
did not want to be seen.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
As directly brokering.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
And so you need to know what to look for.
So first of all, we need to see exactly what
a Costa was asked and exactly what a Costa answered.
That way we know if the Justice Department has ever
really looked into this before. We also need because OPR
reports directly to Bill Barr and his then deputy Jeffrey Rosen, there.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
Was his own strange history with Trump World.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
We need to know if the Attorney General's Office before
Pambondi attempted to shape the inquiries into Epstein's intelligence ties.
Given that Bill Barr was the mop up man for
the Iran Contrast scandal for the CIA, which directly involved
Epstein's networks, so you can immediately see why Bill Barr
would want to shape the OPR investigation to ward off
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any attempt to ask the relevant questions. We also need
all the email traffic around the op the twenty twenty
OPR investigation from the CIA's Office of General Counsel, which
is parked at the Justice Department, in order to make
sure that sensitive or classified information is disclosed in a
way that does not reveal US national secrets and is
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basically the cover up arm of the CIA. We need
to know if CIAOGR, the Office of General Counsel CIOGOGC,
shaped that OPR investigation. We need the transcript of what
they actually asked about Epstein's intelligence ties and what a
Costa actually answered, And we need all the relevant files, records, emails, communications,
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text messages from around Bill Bar, Jeffrey Rosen, and the
OPR team to shape setting for.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
That's all we made public today immediately.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
That's literally right down the hallway at Main.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Justice from Pambondi.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
And that doesn't even require you to go into past
CIA activity and outside financiers from the eighties, nineties, two
thousands about about the role that Epstein played.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Start there.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
That can be done without a special prosecutor, although I
think a special prosecutor would be would be fantastic. But
show us that you mean it when you say you're
actually looking into it, because you can. You could do
this right now. You can walk down the hallway.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Hey man, Mike, we've got a run.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That's just enough time or just out of time, I
should say, for this segment.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Mike Ben's always a wealth of information.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Go following Mike Ben's cyber little Americus voyezil.
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Speaker 4 (23:35):
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Speaker 5 (23:36):
I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you,
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Speaker 5 (23:58):
You just had the great mic bends on and I
think he's right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think he's absolutely right on this question of a
special prosecutor. I also think that he's got options on
specifically things that the DJ can do right now today
to be able to get into this. And really, really,
this is something that I just have to say, it's
absolutely blown up in terms of our comments. I'm looking
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at hundreds and hundreds of comments that are coming in
right now regarding this. You know, people asking people saying,
you know, this is the one scandal that could unite
the left and the right. You know, we're getting that
in Epstein is dead, but the web he operated within is.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Very much alive.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And while many are only now wakening to the scale
and depth of the network, it is clear that we
are dealing with as not a person issue, at crisis
of elite power, protected by both parties and hidden behind
closed doors. And again it's just comment after comment after comment, people.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Saying we want more, we want more, we want to
see what's going on. And I do.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Think, you know, I'd look, guys, I gave a speech
about this down in Tampa. I certainly mentioned it there
among other things, but I said that this is a
story that's going to go away until people feel that
there has been some accountability, and I think that's what
people want at the end of the day, they're not
(25:24):
This isn't about people saying, oh, we're going to blame
this person or that person.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Because you didn't do this. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
This is about getting accountability for something that goes all
the way back to the very beginning, the very origins
of the MAGA movement. This idea that our government is
corrupt and has been working against us for other special
interests and in this case, perhaps nefarious interests, that the
(25:54):
intelligence agencies and the intelligence community has gone far abroad
of their room, far abroad of whatever they were set
up for in the first place, the collection of intelligence,
the protection of the homeland, the protection of the nation.
And for folks trying to make sense of American foreign
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policy and yes, even domestic policy choices over the last
thirty plus years, this is an example. It's an example
of something that's come in. Here's a message from John
in Virginia. For the life of me, I can't understand
why President Trump is taking the approach he has towards
the supporters for demanding full transparency about the Epstein file.
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He's offended many who have expressed they no longer support him.
This will not be good for the twenty twenty six midterms.
Many have said they will just not vote if this
is a hoax President Trump is. If this is the hoax,
President Trump is claiming his attitude is spending political capital.
And that's just an email we got in at seventeen
seventy six at human events dot com, but is following
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the tenor of most of the emails that I'm seeing here.
It can really sum that up when people are saying,
wait a minute, you know, we were the ones who
were brought in.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
We were were the ones who were asked.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
About this, by the way, and I'll you know, I've
reiterated this number of times, but I was brought to
the White House for a meeting and nobody said anything
about Jeffrey Epstein to me until the Attorney General came in.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
So you know, this is this is where this all
stems from.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Isn't stemming from some some pent up outrage. You know,
we were the ones who were brought in, so not
the other way around. And yeah, I'm just reading comment
after comment, if for comment on this, and of course
you know this is there's a lot of tries and
effect I think going on right here as well, where people.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Are saying, you know, we want more. We don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And at the end of the day, though, I do
think that those concerns will be heard.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I hope they will.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They will, I pray that they will, and I trust
that President Trump will do the right thing, because well,
I've been in this movement for a decade at this point.
Certainly it's changed my life in many many ways. And
we are here now and look at where we were
ten years ago versus where we are now, and it's
(28:21):
just been absolute sea change since President Trump came down
from that escalator to where we are now. And I'm
also very honored by the way to be able to
say that as we continue this the main quest, the
main quest, fight against illegal aliens, illegal immigration. I've always
said that is the main quest, the main plot that
(28:43):
we have here on the program. Once again, Tricia McLaughlin,
the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security joining us.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Tricia, how are you.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Jack, I'm great. I'm so sorry we've had tech issues
on our side.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Bud.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I wish I could see your.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Face it's all right.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, yeah, it was nice being able to see you
briefly while we were there at turning point in the
Student Action Summit. Secretary Nomes great speech and the great
I think it was a real personal touch from her,
you know, really coming in and praying for the safety
of federal law enforcement and really all law enforcement officers,
(29:22):
because even in the days since that speech, or perhaps
I'm guessing you guys probably knew more about this than
was public at the time, that we've seen more and
more dosing, more and more targeted attacks on actual ice employees.
Regarding the situation at the California marijuana facility, Jack, You're
(29:45):
exactly right.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Right now, our ice law enforcement are facing an eight
hundred and thirty percent increase in assaults against them. We're
seeing that they're being shot at. We saw that with
that marijuana facility, which, as I know your listeners are
likely aware, that's where we located fourteen children, including ten
of which we're unaccompanied, likely being exploited, trafficked, potentially slave
(30:11):
or forced slave. Were just horrendous there. But our law enforcement,
they're the ones who rescued these innocent children. And yet
you have Gavin Newsom AOC, Tim Walls, mayor wou out
of Boston. You name it, a Democrat du jour who
is likening ICE to the Gestapo and encouraging threats and
assaults against them. So you know, if you see a
(30:33):
law enforcement officer, whether it be ICE or CBP or otherwise,
thank them for their service because they are being targeted,
their families are being docked, and we pray for their safety.
But we're also working to make sure we prosecute the
full extent of the law those who do try to
do harm to our law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Now, if I can zoom in a little bit specifically
on that case regarding the individual who was shooting at
the ICE agents there in California, are there any updates
on this identification apprehension. I know there's been some other
apprehensions recently, but has that one actually come down yet?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
This one in particular, we have a fifty thousand dollars
bounty on this guy's head by the FBI. Our Homeland
Security investigators are working hand in glove with the FBI
to find this this depraved individual. We will find him,
but I won't get ahead of any announcement out of
the FBI on this one.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Jack, No, absolutely, when it comes to these raids, you know,
I have to look at these these images and having
focused on you know, Antifa and left doing agi prop
groups in the past, when I see that many people
showing up in order to try to obstruct.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
One of these raids, it seems to me.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
As though some infor me, those people don't just materialize
in the middle of nowhere, all the way out on
some farm all by themselves. That takes planning, that takes coordination,
that takes organization. So it seems to me, is though,
is there a worry that somehow information about these raids
is leaking before they take place.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Yeah, that's something that we're highly focused on, and we
have seen in the past that leaked information gates out there,
it gets to activist media, or it gets to these
kind of activists themselves. We saw, you know, in Prairie
Land and Texas that there was a group of twelve
individuals who were wearing tactical gear, carrying rifles and then
(32:38):
went on to attack law enforcement. What we're saying at
these highly coordinated attacks across the country, and Jack, I
do think that there is a you brought up Antifa
and these very sophisticated organization, coordination of attacks. But I think,
you know, the mainstream problem of this, which is so
(33:00):
disturbing is that we have Democrat politicians who are trying
to normalize violence against our law enforcement. They totally ignore
the fact that our law enforcements being docs, that their
family members are being targeted, that it's being put online,
where their spouses work, where their children go to school.
And this is in the face of them going after
(33:20):
and trying to arrest highly sophisticated gang members like MS
thirteen or Trendy or rog what terrorist organizations in there.
These Democrat politicians are just handing on a silver platter
intelligence to these vicious, violent games.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And so when we see all of this, unfortunately, it's
something where I've worn for quite some time that the
violent rhetoric is getting worse. Shouldn't this be something though
that the Democrats, you know, certainly they may not agree
with the policies, Certainly they may not agree with the politics,
but you'd think on the question of violence, that would
be something that they could all stand against.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Oh, absolutely, And Jack, I'm very concerned that someone's going
to get killed. Visit this doesn't stop. We were I
remember the start of this administration, probably two months in
we were seeing a four hundred percent increase against our
law enforcement, and now we're at eight hundred and thirty
percent increase. When does the stop? When do the likes
(34:22):
of Galvin Newsom and Karen Bass and Tim Walls and
AOC start to condemn this? Is it going to take
a death to do that? And that's what's so disturbing
is there are just a hell then on the demonization
and attacks. And you know, we didn't hear anything from
Galvin Newsom after he lied about our enforcement operation what
(34:44):
he called a strawberry farm, which it wasn't. It was
two marijuana facilities. And when the information came out about
these three hundred and sixty one illegal aliens that among
them that were arrested were convicted rapist, convicted child molesters,
drug traffickers, horrendous people who were working among children. How
(35:06):
is that not? That goes way beyond parties and politics,
and it's just about basic humanity.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
When it comes down though it This really is about
the victims in many of these cases. And I know
it's something obviously Tom Homan has spoken about quite a bit.
When you do have these child migrants who have been
either labor traffic or worse. It's something that he's talked
about a number of times because in many of these cases,
(35:34):
when they come, they're so young, they have no idea
what's going on, and then they get wrapped up in
organizations like this. And I do think that it's something
where the media and the Democrats have been trying to
paint it as you know, Ice is some kind of
They use this very heated rhetoric describing ICE agents, but
what they're actually doing is not only liberating the child victims,
(35:55):
but also anyone who lives in one of these areas
that's unfortunately being affected by MS thirteen or one of
the other groups.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Oh exactly, these are not You would not want these
criminals to be your neighbors. And Jack, I think you
hit the nail on the head. I think one of
the greatest untold stories of the Biden administration and the
humanitarian crisis that they manufactured at our southern border are
those three hundred thousand plus children who were lost in
(36:23):
the system, so many of them exploited, so many of
them sex trafficked, so many of them labor trafficked, and
the administration now their efforts to reunite those and put
them in safe hands, and so far about ten thousand
children have been located.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
But you know, the.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Incompetence and the lack.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Of organization really imperiled.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
These children and it's been an uphill battle to try
and reunite them. At Secretary Nome and President Trump, they
are you know, very wayser focused.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
On this now. One question that get a lot in
from my listeners.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
You know, we talked about the Big Beautiful Bill, We
talked about the big increase in the ice budget. Just
in the last couple of minutes that we have you
can you tell us a little bit about how that
new you know, much bigger budget is going to be
put to use.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, this has been incredible for the Department of Homeland
Security and our ability to really turbo.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Charge arrests numbers.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Detention bed space has been a lynch pin operationally to
allow us to arrest and detain and eventually deport more
legal aliens. And the fact of the matter is that
this money from the Big Beautiful Bill is going to
double our detention bed space so we can really members
up as well. I mentioned before, you know, the perils
(37:47):
that our law enforcement safe facing. This is going to
give them potential bonuses for our border patrol and ice
agents as well. We're going to be increasing our ice
enforcement officer workforce by about fifty percent, so much more
guys and gals on the ground to help with those arras.
And then I mean think about things like the border wall.
(38:08):
It's going to help us get one hundreds, if not thousands,
more mileage of border wall, as well as technology surveillance
vehicles that we need to make sure we're keeping these
numbers at this other border at US historic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Love and having that full operational control. Chris glafform. Where
can people go to follow you and get all updates
from DHS.
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Yes, absolutely, bone me at Trisha excuse me at Trisha
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And Richard is bringing back to the American people. Jack,
thank you very I love you, patriot and friend.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It's becoming an absolute favorite of mine. God blesters you
your great patriot, as well as everyone else there at
the Partner Commits.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Jack is a great guys. Everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
You get it.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
From the beginning around.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
All right, Jack Pisovic back here Human Events Daily. Well,
everybody keeps asking me, they say it, they're saying post.
So look, you know we got the show, you got
Human Events, but we want to hear from Solomon. Solomon's
got something. He's got info. It's blowing up online. So
I was all right, let's dig him up. I know
it's a little a little earlier than you used to
getting your John Solomon. It will be a live and
(39:39):
full at six pm. But he's here joining us for
a special preview of his exclusive interview with President Trump,
which which was conducted this morning. So this is before
the Oval Office, uh gaggle, which he held there. John
Solomon justin News joins us. Now, John, tell us what
you got.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, listen, this is the first time we've laid out
since the interview occur this morning and everyone can see
it at six o'clock. But here's what he says. The President
only learned recently about the Grand Conspiracy Case. That's what
I call It's not the real name of it, but
the fact that Cash Mattel had opened a conspiracy case
treating the last decade of weaponization as an ongoing conspiracy
(40:18):
from claring Hillary pursuing Trump and Russia Gate, trying to
protect under Biden doing Ukraine impeachment, protecting Biden from the
Chinese plot to help him win the twenty twenty election.
The FBI turns a blind eye to that. Joe Biden
finds classified documents. Oh, we better get a camera case
on Donald Trump to negate that. Looking at that as
(40:38):
one ongoing conspiracy, which has a lot of benefits. You
can go back and charge old crimes and an ongoing conspiracy.
You can also take this case and move it out
to Washington, DC and bring it to Florida because one
of the overt acts of the conspiracy would have been
rating Donald Trump's house. President didn't know about that because
the FBI doesn't normally brief a president on things. But
when we broke that story the president about it, learned
(41:00):
about it, and he said, hey, I like the idea.
I think it's a good way of looking at what happened,
and maybe we finally get some accountability because we don't
get any and then without any prompting, without me even
asking it, he says, I also think if that has
a special prosecutor, that prosecutor should just look at anything
credible about Jeffrey Epstein, and let's get this resolve. Let's
get the American people the most transparency. Now, what does
(41:22):
that mean If there's a special prosecutor, this gets out
of Pambody's hands, It goes to an independent person. They
look at it, they release what they can about it,
and they tell the American people whatever the grand jury
can squeeze out of it. Now, I've done tons of
reporting on Epstein the Wall Street Journal, and I'd probably
been the most prolific of doing this going back to
eighteen seventeen. Miami Herald did some great work too. I
(41:43):
think people are going to be disappointed what's in the
government files, not because there probably wasn't good stuff to
be had, but because the government did a crappy job
investigating this. The Bush Justice Department in I was seven
and oh eight could have gotten Jeffrey Epstein and made
one of the largest scandal in American history. They gave
him a pass, and they did it in the most
(42:04):
cowardly ways. Let the state do it. They took a pass,
and I just they didn't take the time to go
get the sort of things that would have been explosive evidence,
like a Ledger or an accounting of what happened, and
so Trump finally starts pursuing. In nineteen the FBI says
Epstein kills himself from the jail. I think even one
(42:24):
of special prosecute gets into is the government did such
a poor job on this, We're all going to be
a little disappointed. That said, the fact that the President
is willing to let a special prosecutor look at this
tells you that he wants the base, he wants all
of America to have confidence in the final findings. And
I think that this is a big moment, a big
announcement for President Trump. Organic so to happened, I follow him.
(42:46):
So you sure you're saying you're okay with a special
prosecutor look at Epsal Yet that's what I'm saying, Let's
go do it. Let's also look at everything else, because hey, Democrats,
you want a special prosecutor and Epsty, you got it.
But we're also going to look at Hillary, and we're
going to look at James Comy and John Brennan and JACKSONI.
And so I think the President has laid out something
that I assume Pam BONDI will quickly follow up on
it's a big moment.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
So John, I want to just want to just get
this trade for everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
So President Trump, he's talking about this Spressol prosecutor, which
of course he references earlier in the Oval Office as
well as yesterday he was on a couple of these
tarmac aggles where he says, that's that's for the prosecutor
to do, right, and that's what you saw was going
on war room. So that's in reference to a special prosecutor.
Now it's possible that this special prosecutor could also be
(43:33):
looking at all of these in conjunction with this broader conspiracy.
So what all of this fit into a scope memo
for that prosecutor. Of course, this goes back to what
we remember from Special Council Mueller and the scope memo
all the way back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen regarding
his special investigation.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, let me reverse engineer it. There's not an open
case on Nepsteine right now. So the open predicated case
that the FBI is the grand conspiracy Hillary Clinton to
Jack Smith, Okay, as part of that, what the President
is saying, expand the scope and let Epstein be part
of this too, and let's give the American people confidence independence.
Let's get a good person there, and let's do that.
(44:12):
So the predicated case is already opened. That's something that
was news that broke on Monday. You snap in Jeffrey
Epstein and you let an independent person, You get this
out of Pambody's hand, where there were several false starts
and mistakes made, and you let everybody go in. I
think there are two places we haven't been looking at.
The FBI's documents are all in Pam Bondi's hands. She
should release them all. There are two places that haven't
(44:33):
been tapped. One is the sealed grand jury proceedings in
New York. That is not something Pam Bondy on her
own can release, but she should make the request of
the judge and say, Judge, we believe it's in the
public interest, please unseal all the evidence. The judge has
already unsealed some things like the address book a couple
of years ago, which was part of my reporting two
years ago. But that's one area that we don't focus on.
(44:56):
That's an important piece of evidence that's still sitting under
lock and key could start the process. The judge has
to sign off on it. The second area is the CIA.
Now I've done a lot of reporting. Jeff Epstein wasn't
a knock, he wasn't a controlled asset or agent of
the CIA, but he did have a handful of interactions
with the CIA, and I think John Radcliff should just
(45:18):
release that file. Epstein's dead, what harm is in letting
the American people see how the CIA interacted with Epstein
on a couple occasions. It's a small file based on
my reporting, but those are two places we aren't talking about.
Those are two gold mines. I think the American people
will be happy to get.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Him John working once again. Where can people go to
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Right after Steve mannon six o'clock, Just the News, no noise,
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We're going to put out that story in a couple
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So Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, the man who will never die,
The man who will never die. See a lot of
people are asking, and I, of course I saw President
Trump's truth social his comments earlier today in the Oval
(02:32):
Office regarding this. I also Am told about an interview
that he held with John Solomon, our colleague here at
Real America's Voice, which will air later tonight in the
six pm hour, where he talks about releasing any legitimate
information that the government does have on Jeffrey Epstein, and
specifically he mentions that's for the prosecutor to do.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
So.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The question is, of course, does that mean that he
supports the special prosecutor that many of us have been
calling for on Epstein.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
But I want to get into a broader.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sense, Okay, the Epstein list was never about Epstein, the person,
the man man who was by the way, brought to
justice by the original Trump administration. It was about everyone
else involved, who are perhaps still in positions of influence
out in the world, out in the world of business,
(03:26):
in tech and Silicon Valley.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's why it matters. Epstein may be dead, but his
clients and his network isn't It could be all over
We're talking Hollywood, banks, media, perhaps even in positions of
government or foreign government.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We don't know. That's the point.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So at the end of the day, it is about
the victims one hundred percent and getting justice for them.
But on another level, It's about taking the fight to
the deep state.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
A deep state that has been the thorn.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
In the side of MAGA since day one, a deep
state that's been going after President Trump since day one,
and a deep state which absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Knows more than they're letting on and they simply do.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We're gonna have Mike Benson soon to break this down
even further to talk more about and we've done for
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you are very excited to have Mike Ben's on here,
the executive director of the Foundation Freedom Online. Ben's. You know,
you've been someone who's you know, you're you're pretty quiet
about the Epstein case. It's not really something that you've
covered a lot. Is there anything that you want to
add here? I mean, I know it's not really your
Bailey Wick.
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Ah, No, I think I said up. No, I'm kidding obviously. No.
Speaker 11 (07:23):
The reason that I'm Mike that the Epstein is a
da story.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That that people are trying to tie it to President Trump,
I think is the opposite way to look at it,
because I think what people are trying to do is
actually see where the web goes to the people that
we know or as you don't know, that are associated already.
Because President Trump's role in this has been looked into,
and actually, as far as I can tell, he's the
only one who comes out actually smelling pretty good.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Well, if you remember what was it twenty fifteen, twenty
sixteen when in a public interview I think it was
even on a maybe not the debates, but you know
that quote where Trump says he's asked about I think
Bill Clinton or Hillary and he says, well, he's going
to have a forum a problem with a little guy
named Jeffrey Epstein. And yeah, I mean Trump was using
(08:14):
you know, the Epstein stuff as a sword against you know,
the Clinton family when he ran for president, so you know,
to call it a Democrat hoast.
Speaker 9 (08:24):
Now they look, everyone knows you know what this is.
You can't, you know.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
Trump wants us to go away for a myriad of reasons,
and some of them.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Are quite legitimate. I have a very.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
Different take, I think, on the Epstein situation than than
most of the folks that I that I think are
are covering it in terms of what I think the
nature of the intelligence relationship that Epstein had was, and
I think that you know, I'm mostly focused on Epstein's
role as a financial facilitator for governments and doing so
(09:00):
in a covert fashion that would make this driven by
intelligence rather than formal diplomatic channels. And rather than on
the kind of blackmail side of this, which is I
think what Epstein is more commonly known as in MAGA parlance.
And so I think that Trump's instincts of saying, well, listen,
if if we talk about all the different names here,
(09:22):
it's going to there's not going to be any context report,
and they're going to be associated with child sex trafficking
when really they didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
I think that is true.
Speaker 11 (09:33):
The issue is is the intelligence question is unanswered, and
I think very deliberately unanswered because of what it would
entail to reveal. But I believe that the intelligence side
of the equation when it comes to Epstein has primarily
to do with Epstein's role as a financial fixer rather
(09:53):
than as some sort of sexual blackmailer. But I think
that the Pambondi Justice Department probably does not know where
to look for that information around around you know, covert
financing for cover and action, and so I think a
lot of it is getting congested at the DOJ layer,
mixed with the fact that the national security community as
(10:16):
well as international partners would not necessarily love that information
to be made public.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Right, And of course you know, the intelligence community would
love someone who would be able to essentially run their
slush funds for them for black operations. There's even been
some reporting recently that Epstein, one of his original clients
may have been add Non Koshogi, who was directly tied
to Iran Contra. And of course we all know about
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his son, Jamal Koushogi. And so right there, you're you're
looking at ways for someone for the intel community to
be able to reach out find a note. They did
this many times in the past with private industry, where
you reach out and find some famous figure to be
able to put something out for them so that it
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doesn't actually have to be on their books.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
That's exactly right. In fact, Iran Contra was ran the
exact way you know. On On Koshogi was the guy
who started the Iran Contra affair. He was the reportedly
wealthiest man in the world. At one point, he was
the richest arms He was the richest arms dealer.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
In world history.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
He made three times more in commissions for Lockheed Martin
than every other commissions agent for Lockheed Martin combined, over
three times more than every other commissions agent combined. He
was the CIA's top arms dealer as well as illicit
and covert arms dealer for all activity in the Middle East.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
And he was the one, this saudy you.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Know, billionaire, who flew to the White House in nineteen
eighty three to meet with Robert McFarlane, the National Security Advisor,
to pitch the idea of having US weapons shipped to
Israel and then delivered to Iran and then have the
proceeds siphoned off to support the contras, the Nicaraguan contras,
(12:14):
to hit two birds with one stone.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
Two illegal activities.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
There was an arms embargo on Iran, so that was illegal,
and Congress had passed the bull And Amendment banning funds
going to the Nicaraguan contras, and so it had.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
To be structured as a covert action.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
This could not be formally done above the light, you know,
in the light of day by the Reagan administration. So
they used a They used basically Saudi and Israeli financiers
and weapons dealers in order to do two bird, you
knock out two birds with one stone. And as you
mentioned in Epstein's own words, he said in nineteen eighty
(12:50):
seven that Odenan Kushoki was one of his personal clients.
Nineteen eighty seven was the middle of Iran Contra. That
was that ran from nineteen eighty five, read in nineteen
eighty eight. So and who was at the Justice Department
at the time, it was it was at the CIA
at the time. Actually it was Bill Barr. Bill Barr
started his career in the CIA. He worked there for
(13:13):
six years during Iran Contra as Bill Barr's father will
also work for the CIA, and you know, basically had
hired Jeffrey Epstein to the Dalton School while Donald Barr
was was head master there and then Donald and then
Bill Barr was the cover up.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
According to the New York Times, you know ran.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Aheadline calling Bill Barr the quote cover up general of
Iran contra because he was the one who blocked access
to CIA records when there was an investigation into that
covert action and then you know, basically orchestrated you know,
the pardons and cover ups into that very affair that
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Jeffrey Epstein's whole network ran through, including Jeffrey Epstein himself.
A lot this has to do with the fact that
there was that in the late nineteen seventies when Iran,
when the Iranian Revolution happened, and the government that had
been backed by both the US, Israelis and Brits within
Iran when that government was toppled in Iran, combined with
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Jimmy Carter severing the capacities of the CIA from nineteen
seventy nine through the nineteen eighties, an offshore private, self sustained,
standalone covert financing operation network had to be tapped into
in order to run operations that the CIA was getting
in trouble for directly facilitation.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
It is outside of.
Speaker 11 (14:40):
Facilitators, and Epstein was one of them. This explains A. S.
Greenberg at bear Stearns. This explains Edgar Bromfley in the
family portfolio he ran there. This explains odd non con and.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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Speaker 9 (15:00):
Know that you talk about influencers.
Speaker 10 (15:01):
These are influences and they're friends of mine.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
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I want to go.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Back to Mike Ben's now, Mike, you were talking about
all of these different nodes that roll up with Epstein.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I want to shift gears here.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We got a couple of minutes left in this segment
and go all the way through and talk about Look,
there's this idea that a lot of us called for
when we were down in Tampa. I was there with Charlie,
I was there with Steve Bennon, and a lot of
us are pushing for a special prosecutor. President Trump has
said twice yesterday and once he mentioned it even again
today we're told that he all so said it as
(17:00):
well in this pre taped interview. It's going to be
with John Solomon airs on Real Mark his Voice later
tonight six pm. And I hope everyone is tuning in.
I know I certainly will be to that where he's
calling for a special prosecutor and says, if there is
legitimate information out there, let's release it. So Ben's I say,
we take that ball and roll and run with it.
(17:21):
You know, we're talking about the criminal charges, but also
you're talking about these financial operations that he was involved in.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
All of this information as well.
Speaker 11 (17:31):
Yeah, that's exactly right, So you could do it through
a special prosecutor. You could do it through a transparency
working group. Ed Martin, for example, is now running this
weaponization task for US within DJ. I think that that
would also be an appropriate place to spearhead and investigation.
I think when you start looking into the Epstein story,
what you see is a very very technical, detail laden
(17:56):
story that laces its way through through US foreign policy,
through Middle East foreign policy, through a Western ally foreign policy,
through North African country foreign policy. I don't think Pam
Bondy is you know, with her, given all the other
(18:17):
responsibilities that she has as the head of the US
Justice Department, is the person who you know is or
should be the keeper of all you know? I think
she needs to be personally spearheading this this sort of thing.
I don't think that, you know, she necessarily has the background,
experience or know how in this particular thing. What you
(18:41):
need is somebody within DJ who will be tasked with
what to ask for, who will spend their time on
this in the details of the case, and what you
need from Pam BONDI is basically the muscle applied in
order to greenlight and make sure that documents are delivered
to the task for or special prosecutor from the relevant agencies.
(19:03):
And so this is why I stress that Pambondi, as
Attorney General, has an office that reports directly to her.
It's called OPR, the Office of Professional Responsibility.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
In November twenty twenty, two weeks after.
Speaker 11 (19:16):
Trump lost the twenty twenty election, but while Bill Barr
was still running the Justice Department, an investigation was that
had taken I think something like it was from February
twenty nineteen to November twenty twenty. So this is like
(19:36):
a twenty one month investigation that OPR led into the
plea deal cut for Epstein and investigated alex Acosta and
his statements that Epstein quote belonged to intelligence and whether
that played a factor into the plea deal. Now you're
talking about a huge, sweeping, enormously lengthy investigation by the
(19:58):
Justice Department OPR into this exact question. Now, all we
got in the three hundred and forty eight page report
that Justice Department released but then weirdly deleted from its website,
even though.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
You can find it through other channels.
Speaker 11 (20:14):
In that three hundred and forty eight page report, there
is a very limited hangout question which is asked, first
of all, there's no transcript.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
There's a summary, one line.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Description that OPR investigators.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
Asked Acosta, did you acknowledge.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
That Epstein Epstein was an intelligence asset? And Acosta told
us the answer is no, Well, that is not the
right question to ask. That question is because I don't
think Epstein would have been an asset. Financial fixers, financial
facilitators almost never are. I did a recent study into this,
and eight out of ten financial fixers from that same
(20:51):
era were not CIA assets. There was no human intelligence
to a one file on them. They were never formally recruited.
What they were were winning cooperative contacts. They were liaisons, facilitators.
They didn't work for the agency, but they worked with
the agency to broker international deals that the State Department
did not want to be seen.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
As directly brokering.
Speaker 11 (21:14):
And so you need to know what to look for.
So first of all, we need to see exactly what
a Costa was asked and exactly what a Costa answered.
That way we know if the Justice Department has ever
really looked into this before. We also need because OPR
reports directly to Bill Barr and his then deputy Jeffrey Rosen, there.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
Was his own strange history with Trump World.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
We need to know if the Attorney General's Office before
Pambondi attempted to shape the inquiries into Epstein's intelligence ties.
Given that Bill Barr was the mop up man for
the Iran Contrast scandal for the CIA, which directly involved
Epstein's networks, so you can immediately see why Bill Barr
would want to shape the OPR investigation to ward off
(21:56):
any attempt to ask the relevant questions. We also need
all the email traffic around the op the twenty twenty
OPR investigation from the CIA's Office of General Counsel, which
is parked at the Justice Department, in order to make
sure that sensitive or classified information is disclosed in a
way that does not reveal US national secrets and is
(22:18):
basically the cover up arm of the CIA. We need
to know if CIAOGR, the Office of General Counsel CIOGOGC,
shaped that OPR investigation. We need the transcript of what
they actually asked about Epstein's intelligence ties and what a
Costa actually answered, And we need all the relevant files, records, emails, communications,
(22:39):
text messages from around Bill Bar, Jeffrey Rosen, and the
OPR team to shape setting for.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
That's all we made public today immediately.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
That's literally right down the hallway at Main.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Justice from Pambondi.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
And that doesn't even require you to go into past
CIA activity and outside financiers from the eighties, nineties, two
thousands about about the role that Epstein played.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Start there.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
That can be done without a special prosecutor, although I
think a special prosecutor would be would be fantastic. But
show us that you mean it when you say you're
actually looking into it, because you can. You could do
this right now. You can walk down the hallway.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Hey man, Mike, we've got a run.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That's just enough time or just out of time, I
should say, for this segment.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Mike Ben's always a wealth of information.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Go following Mike Ben's cyber little Americus voyezil.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Hey Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack? Worrising?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Jack?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you,
what the job you do?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know, we have an incredible thing.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
We're always talking about the fake.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
News, the demand, but we have guys, and these are
the guys just forgetting.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Humassi All right, Jacor Soba Carey are back Human Events Daily,
Washington DC.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
You just had the great mic bends on and I
think he's right.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think he's absolutely right on this question of a
special prosecutor. I also think that he's got options on
specifically things that the DJ can do right now today
to be able to get into this. And really, really,
this is something that I just have to say, it's
absolutely blown up in terms of our comments. I'm looking
(24:26):
at hundreds and hundreds of comments that are coming in
right now regarding this. You know, people asking people saying,
you know, this is the one scandal that could unite
the left and the right. You know, we're getting that
in Epstein is dead, but the web he operated within is.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Very much alive.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And while many are only now wakening to the scale
and depth of the network, it is clear that we
are dealing with as not a person issue, at crisis
of elite power, protected by both parties and hidden behind
closed doors. And again it's just comment after comment after comment, people.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Saying we want more, we want more, we want to
see what's going on. And I do.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Think, you know, I'd look, guys, I gave a speech
about this down in Tampa. I certainly mentioned it there
among other things, but I said that this is a
story that's going to go away until people feel that
there has been some accountability, and I think that's what
people want at the end of the day, they're not
(25:24):
This isn't about people saying, oh, we're going to blame
this person or that person.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Because you didn't do this. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
This is about getting accountability for something that goes all
the way back to the very beginning, the very origins
of the MAGA movement. This idea that our government is
corrupt and has been working against us for other special
interests and in this case, perhaps nefarious interests, that the
(25:54):
intelligence agencies and the intelligence community has gone far abroad
of their room, far abroad of whatever they were set
up for in the first place, the collection of intelligence,
the protection of the homeland, the protection of the nation.
And for folks trying to make sense of American foreign
(26:16):
policy and yes, even domestic policy choices over the last
thirty plus years, this is an example. It's an example
of something that's come in. Here's a message from John
in Virginia. For the life of me, I can't understand
why President Trump is taking the approach he has towards
the supporters for demanding full transparency about the Epstein file.
(26:39):
He's offended many who have expressed they no longer support him.
This will not be good for the twenty twenty six midterms.
Many have said they will just not vote if this
is a hoax President Trump is. If this is the hoax,
President Trump is claiming his attitude is spending political capital.
And that's just an email we got in at seventeen
seventy six at human events dot com, but is following
(27:00):
the tenor of most of the emails that I'm seeing here.
It can really sum that up when people are saying,
wait a minute, you know, we were the ones who
were brought in.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
We were were the ones who were asked.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
About this, by the way, and I'll you know, I've
reiterated this number of times, but I was brought to
the White House for a meeting and nobody said anything
about Jeffrey Epstein to me until the Attorney General came in.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
So you know, this is this is where this all
stems from.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Isn't stemming from some some pent up outrage. You know,
we were the ones who were brought in, so not
the other way around. And yeah, I'm just reading comment
after comment, if for comment on this, and of course
you know this is there's a lot of tries and
effect I think going on right here as well, where people.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Are saying, you know, we want more. We don't know
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And at the end of the day, though, I do
think that those concerns will be heard.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I hope they will.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They will, I pray that they will, and I trust
that President Trump will do the right thing, because well,
I've been in this movement for a decade at this point.
Certainly it's changed my life in many many ways. And
we are here now and look at where we were
ten years ago versus where we are now, and it's
(28:21):
just been absolute sea change since President Trump came down
from that escalator to where we are now. And I'm
also very honored by the way to be able to
say that as we continue this the main quest, the
main quest, fight against illegal aliens, illegal immigration. I've always
said that is the main quest, the main plot that
(28:43):
we have here on the program. Once again, Tricia McLaughlin,
the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security joining us.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Tricia, how are you.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Jack, I'm great. I'm so sorry we've had tech issues
on our side.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Bud.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I wish I could see your.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Face it's all right.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, yeah, it was nice being able to see you
briefly while we were there at turning point in the
Student Action Summit. Secretary Nomes great speech and the great
I think it was a real personal touch from her,
you know, really coming in and praying for the safety
of federal law enforcement and really all law enforcement officers,
(29:22):
because even in the days since that speech, or perhaps
I'm guessing you guys probably knew more about this than
was public at the time, that we've seen more and
more dosing, more and more targeted attacks on actual ice employees.
Regarding the situation at the California marijuana facility, Jack, You're
(29:45):
exactly right.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Right now, our ice law enforcement are facing an eight
hundred and thirty percent increase in assaults against them. We're
seeing that they're being shot at. We saw that with
that marijuana facility, which, as I know your listeners are
likely aware, that's where we located fourteen children, including ten
of which we're unaccompanied, likely being exploited, trafficked, potentially slave
(30:11):
or forced slave. Were just horrendous there. But our law enforcement,
they're the ones who rescued these innocent children. And yet
you have Gavin Newsom AOC, Tim Walls, mayor wou out
of Boston. You name it, a Democrat du jour who
is likening ICE to the Gestapo and encouraging threats and
assaults against them. So you know, if you see a
(30:33):
law enforcement officer, whether it be ICE or CBP or otherwise,
thank them for their service because they are being targeted,
their families are being docked, and we pray for their safety.
But we're also working to make sure we prosecute the
full extent of the law those who do try to
do harm to our law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Now, if I can zoom in a little bit specifically
on that case regarding the individual who was shooting at
the ICE agents there in California, are there any updates
on this identification apprehension. I know there's been some other
apprehensions recently, but has that one actually come down yet?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
This one in particular, we have a fifty thousand dollars
bounty on this guy's head by the FBI. Our Homeland
Security investigators are working hand in glove with the FBI
to find this this depraved individual. We will find him,
but I won't get ahead of any announcement out of
the FBI on this one.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Jack, No, absolutely, when it comes to these raids, you know,
I have to look at these these images and having
focused on you know, Antifa and left doing agi prop
groups in the past, when I see that many people
showing up in order to try to obstruct.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
One of these raids, it seems to me.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
As though some infor me, those people don't just materialize
in the middle of nowhere, all the way out on
some farm all by themselves. That takes planning, that takes coordination,
that takes organization. So it seems to me, is though,
is there a worry that somehow information about these raids
is leaking before they take place.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Yeah, that's something that we're highly focused on, and we
have seen in the past that leaked information gates out there,
it gets to activist media, or it gets to these
kind of activists themselves. We saw, you know, in Prairie
Land and Texas that there was a group of twelve
individuals who were wearing tactical gear, carrying rifles and then
(32:38):
went on to attack law enforcement. What we're saying at
these highly coordinated attacks across the country, and Jack, I
do think that there is a you brought up Antifa
and these very sophisticated organization, coordination of attacks. But I think,
you know, the mainstream problem of this, which is so
(33:00):
disturbing is that we have Democrat politicians who are trying
to normalize violence against our law enforcement. They totally ignore
the fact that our law enforcements being docs, that their
family members are being targeted, that it's being put online,
where their spouses work, where their children go to school.
And this is in the face of them going after
(33:20):
and trying to arrest highly sophisticated gang members like MS
thirteen or Trendy or rog what terrorist organizations in there.
These Democrat politicians are just handing on a silver platter
intelligence to these vicious, violent games.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And so when we see all of this, unfortunately, it's
something where I've worn for quite some time that the
violent rhetoric is getting worse. Shouldn't this be something though
that the Democrats, you know, certainly they may not agree
with the policies, Certainly they may not agree with the politics,
but you'd think on the question of violence, that would
be something that they could all stand against.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Oh, absolutely, And Jack, I'm very concerned that someone's going
to get killed. Visit this doesn't stop. We were I
remember the start of this administration, probably two months in
we were seeing a four hundred percent increase against our
law enforcement, and now we're at eight hundred and thirty
percent increase. When does the stop? When do the likes
(34:22):
of Galvin Newsom and Karen Bass and Tim Walls and
AOC start to condemn this? Is it going to take
a death to do that? And that's what's so disturbing
is there are just a hell then on the demonization
and attacks. And you know, we didn't hear anything from
Galvin Newsom after he lied about our enforcement operation what
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he called a strawberry farm, which it wasn't. It was
two marijuana facilities. And when the information came out about
these three hundred and sixty one illegal aliens that among
them that were arrested were convicted rapist, convicted child molesters,
drug traffickers, horrendous people who were working among children. How
(35:06):
is that not? That goes way beyond parties and politics,
and it's just about basic humanity.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
When it comes down though it This really is about
the victims in many of these cases. And I know
it's something obviously Tom Homan has spoken about quite a bit.
When you do have these child migrants who have been
either labor traffic or worse. It's something that he's talked
about a number of times because in many of these cases,
(35:34):
when they come, they're so young, they have no idea
what's going on, and then they get wrapped up in
organizations like this. And I do think that it's something
where the media and the Democrats have been trying to
paint it as you know, Ice is some kind of
They use this very heated rhetoric describing ICE agents, but
what they're actually doing is not only liberating the child victims,
(35:55):
but also anyone who lives in one of these areas
that's unfortunately being affected by MS thirteen or one of
the other groups.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Oh exactly, these are not You would not want these
criminals to be your neighbors. And Jack, I think you
hit the nail on the head. I think one of
the greatest untold stories of the Biden administration and the
humanitarian crisis that they manufactured at our southern border are
those three hundred thousand plus children who were lost in
(36:23):
the system, so many of them exploited, so many of
them sex trafficked, so many of them labor trafficked, and
the administration now their efforts to reunite those and put
them in safe hands, and so far about ten thousand
children have been located.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
But you know, the.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Incompetence and the lack.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Of organization really imperiled.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
These children and it's been an uphill battle to try
and reunite them. At Secretary Nome and President Trump, they
are you know, very wayser focused.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
On this now. One question that get a lot in
from my listeners.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
You know, we talked about the Big Beautiful Bill, We
talked about the big increase in the ice budget. Just
in the last couple of minutes that we have you
can you tell us a little bit about how that
new you know, much bigger budget is going to be
put to use.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, this has been incredible for the Department of Homeland
Security and our ability to really turbo.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Charge arrests numbers.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Detention bed space has been a lynch pin operationally to
allow us to arrest and detain and eventually deport more
legal aliens. And the fact of the matter is that
this money from the Big Beautiful Bill is going to
double our detention bed space so we can really members
up as well. I mentioned before, you know, the perils
(37:47):
that our law enforcement safe facing. This is going to
give them potential bonuses for our border patrol and ice
agents as well. We're going to be increasing our ice
enforcement officer workforce by about fifty percent, so much more
guys and gals on the ground to help with those arras.
And then I mean think about things like the border wall.
(38:08):
It's going to help us get one hundreds, if not thousands,
more mileage of border wall, as well as technology surveillance
vehicles that we need to make sure we're keeping these
numbers at this other border at US historic.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Love and having that full operational control. Chris glafform. Where
can people go to follow you and get all updates
from DHS.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
Yes, absolutely, bone me at Trisha excuse me at Trisha
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And Richard is bringing back to the American people. Jack,
thank you very I love you, patriot and friend.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
It's becoming an absolute favorite of mine. God blesters you
your great patriot, as well as everyone else there at
the Partner Commits.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Jack is a great guys. Everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
You get it.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
From the beginning around.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
All right, Jack Pisovic back here Human Events Daily. Well,
everybody keeps asking me, they say it, they're saying post.
So look, you know we got the show, you got
Human Events, but we want to hear from Solomon. Solomon's
got something. He's got info. It's blowing up online. So
I was all right, let's dig him up. I know
it's a little a little earlier than you used to
getting your John Solomon. It will be a live and
(39:39):
full at six pm. But he's here joining us for
a special preview of his exclusive interview with President Trump,
which which was conducted this morning. So this is before
the Oval Office, uh gaggle, which he held there. John
Solomon justin News joins us. Now, John, tell us what
you got.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, listen, this is the first time we've laid out
since the interview occur this morning and everyone can see
it at six o'clock. But here's what he says. The President
only learned recently about the Grand Conspiracy Case. That's what
I call It's not the real name of it, but
the fact that Cash Mattel had opened a conspiracy case
treating the last decade of weaponization as an ongoing conspiracy
(40:18):
from claring Hillary pursuing Trump and Russia Gate, trying to
protect under Biden doing Ukraine impeachment, protecting Biden from the
Chinese plot to help him win the twenty twenty election.
The FBI turns a blind eye to that. Joe Biden
finds classified documents. Oh, we better get a camera case
on Donald Trump to negate that. Looking at that as
(40:38):
one ongoing conspiracy, which has a lot of benefits. You
can go back and charge old crimes and an ongoing conspiracy.
You can also take this case and move it out
to Washington, DC and bring it to Florida because one
of the overt acts of the conspiracy would have been
rating Donald Trump's house. President didn't know about that because
the FBI doesn't normally brief a president on things. But
when we broke that story the president about it, learned
(41:00):
about it, and he said, hey, I like the idea.
I think it's a good way of looking at what happened,
and maybe we finally get some accountability because we don't
get any and then without any prompting, without me even
asking it, he says, I also think if that has
a special prosecutor, that prosecutor should just look at anything
credible about Jeffrey Epstein, and let's get this resolve. Let's
get the American people the most transparency. Now, what does
(41:22):
that mean If there's a special prosecutor, this gets out
of Pambody's hands, It goes to an independent person. They
look at it, they release what they can about it,
and they tell the American people whatever the grand jury
can squeeze out of it. Now, I've done tons of
reporting on Epstein the Wall Street Journal, and I'd probably
been the most prolific of doing this going back to
eighteen seventeen. Miami Herald did some great work too. I
(41:43):
think people are going to be disappointed what's in the
government files, not because there probably wasn't good stuff to
be had, but because the government did a crappy job
investigating this. The Bush Justice Department in I was seven
and oh eight could have gotten Jeffrey Epstein and made
one of the largest scandal in American history. They gave
him a pass, and they did it in the most
(42:04):
cowardly ways. Let the state do it. They took a pass,
and I just they didn't take the time to go
get the sort of things that would have been explosive evidence,
like a Ledger or an accounting of what happened, and
so Trump finally starts pursuing. In nineteen the FBI says
Epstein kills himself from the jail. I think even one
(42:24):
of special prosecute gets into is the government did such
a poor job on this, We're all going to be
a little disappointed. That said, the fact that the President
is willing to let a special prosecutor look at this
tells you that he wants the base, he wants all
of America to have confidence in the final findings. And
I think that this is a big moment, a big
announcement for President Trump. Organic so to happened, I follow him.
(42:46):
So you sure you're saying you're okay with a special
prosecutor look at Epsal Yet that's what I'm saying, Let's
go do it. Let's also look at everything else, because hey, Democrats,
you want a special prosecutor and Epsty, you got it.
But we're also going to look at Hillary, and we're
going to look at James Comy and John Brennan and JACKSONI.
And so I think the President has laid out something
that I assume Pam BONDI will quickly follow up on
it's a big moment.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
So John, I want to just want to just get
this trade for everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
So President Trump, he's talking about this Spressol prosecutor, which
of course he references earlier in the Oval Office as
well as yesterday he was on a couple of these
tarmac aggles where he says, that's that's for the prosecutor
to do, right, and that's what you saw was going
on war room. So that's in reference to a special prosecutor.
Now it's possible that this special prosecutor could also be
(43:33):
looking at all of these in conjunction with this broader conspiracy.
So what all of this fit into a scope memo
for that prosecutor. Of course, this goes back to what
we remember from Special Council Mueller and the scope memo
all the way back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen regarding
his special investigation.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, let me reverse engineer it. There's not an open
case on Nepsteine right now. So the open predicated case
that the FBI is the grand conspiracy Hillary Clinton to
Jack Smith, Okay, as part of that, what the President
is saying, expand the scope and let Epstein be part
of this too, and let's give the American people confidence independence.
Let's get a good person there, and let's do that.
(44:12):
So the predicated case is already opened. That's something that
was news that broke on Monday. You snap in Jeffrey
Epstein and you let an independent person, You get this
out of Pambody's hand, where there were several false starts
and mistakes made, and you let everybody go in. I
think there are two places we haven't been looking at.
The FBI's documents are all in Pam Bondi's hands. She
should release them all. There are two places that haven't
(44:33):
been tapped. One is the sealed grand jury proceedings in
New York. That is not something Pam Bondy on her
own can release, but she should make the request of
the judge and say, Judge, we believe it's in the
public interest, please unseal all the evidence. The judge has
already unsealed some things like the address book a couple
of years ago, which was part of my reporting two
years ago. But that's one area that we don't focus on.
(44:56):
That's an important piece of evidence that's still sitting under
lock and key could start the process. The judge has
to sign off on it. The second area is the CIA.
Now I've done a lot of reporting. Jeff Epstein wasn't
a knock, he wasn't a controlled asset or agent of
the CIA, but he did have a handful of interactions
with the CIA, and I think John Radcliff should just
(45:18):
release that file. Epstein's dead, what harm is in letting
the American people see how the CIA interacted with Epstein
on a couple occasions. It's a small file based on
my reporting, but those are two places we aren't talking about.
Those are two gold mines. I think the American people
will be happy to get.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Him John working once again. Where can people go to
see this interview in full.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Right after Steve mannon six o'clock, Just the News, no noise,
right here in Real America's voice and just the News.
We're going to put out that story in a couple
of minutes that I just told you about.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Congrats John, incredible exclusive and I can't wait to watch
it myself. Folks, there you go, stick with Real America's voice,
because we aren't just telling you the news. In many cases,
we're driving the news. Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you
have my permission to lay shore,
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