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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth
generation warfare.
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Than you.
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On your love a commentator, international social media sensation and
former maybe intelligence better And.
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This is human Events with your host, Jack.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
Pisoviet christ Is King zalvolnas hinasho ivascl zalvolnashinasho.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Evascul for our freedom and yours.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
This is our sacred mission, this is our sacred duty.
And so standing here in Poland, I feel the weight
of my ancestors on this soil. My family has carried
the stories of this land from Lejaisk and Jejov all
the way back to America, and now we return here.
There is no people in this world that is more
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close to my heart than the Polish people, and I
will always be fiercely proud of my Polish heritage. Together
the Polish people, the American people, and all people who
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love freedom, will face every challenge and we will defeat
every challenge.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
We will ensure that our children inherit a world.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Where faith, family and freedom reign supreme. And so I
say to you, long live our unbreakable friendship, Long live
the bonds of our people. Nick Ziea Polska, nick Ziea
Polska nickziear Polska.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Poland, which has just held its pivotal presidential election, with
all votes now counted. The writing historian Carol Navotsky is
Poland's new president is.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
A traditional conservative Roman Catholic. He believes in strong, sovereign
Poland within the EU. He's also a big fan of
President Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Today is June two, twenty twenty five. Anno domini, folks.
Today today is different. I'm still rilling, folks, because something
incredible just happened.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
In all the polls said it couldn't be done.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The media counted it out, said it was a goner,
a lost cause. Well, folks, I'm here to tell you
that the nationalist candidate Karol Novrowsky, a first time contender,
has done it. He has just been elected the president
of Poland. Poland is the land of my father's, the
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heart of unyielding spirit, and.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It has spoken.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And I got to tell you this one hits close
to home, folks, real close. Last week I was there
in Poland, right in the most conservative spot of Poland
along the Ukraine border, a city called Jeshov, only a
few miles away from the small town where the Pasobic
family hails from and still lives in Poland. I wasn't
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just visiting, I was campaigning. I was walking up and
down streets, met people, folks whose roots run even deeper
than mine there and I got to tell you, the
air was electric, hope, defiance, pride. These people weren't just
fighting for a candidate. They're fighting for the identity, their
Christian faith, their Polish way of life. And of all
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the places I go not an outsider, there as a
son of Poland, standing on the sea soil that holds
the blood of my ancestors. And when you see the
people there, you see their eyes, the shopkeepers, the grandmothers,
the farmers. They're done with the globalist promises, with the
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bureaucrats in Brussels trying to erase their borders and their values.
They want Poland to stay Polish. And this wasn't just
a vote. It was a roar, a roar that echoed
from Warsaw to the smallest villages, saying we are still here,
we will not bend. This is the land of John
Paul the Second, This is the land of King Sobieski.
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This is the land of the miracle on the Vistula,
This is the land that broke communism, and this is
the land where Polish patriots will always reign supreme.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Be right back, stay.
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Speaker 1 (05:12):
All right, folks, Jack Posovic here back live Human Events Daily.
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six seventy six. Today I want to welcome in Real
America's voice as well as live on the Salem Rate
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Network Hour three with Charlie Kirk. We will also go
now live to Warsaw, Poland, where another Pasobic is standing
in the same land of his ancestors, or I should
say sitting is It's Kevin Pasovic our foreign correspondent, Kevin,
how goes it?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Jadobi Jack? Great to be here on human events again.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm live in Warsaw, not far from the vistriel of
the river where the miracle occurred, and it seems another
one has happened just today as well.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Listen, it's uh, it's it's it's go.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Time for the accordions and the and the polka music.
You better get out your tap dancing shoes because because
we're hitting the town tonight, it's an incredible get out.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
The polka shoes.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
See, we're breaking out the caabas, the kabasi, the piroghis,
the gumky key. If you remember when Nana used to
make wonky at that at home and the entire house
would just smell like tomatoes, like literally the whole weekend.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
Well, this is this is what we do.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know, we got to carry the herit to John
and uh, you know we have our own recipe now.
Speaker 9 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely remember that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And the green beans growing on the fence and the
green beans I do.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's it's it's like it's it's and it's and then
and the polka Saturday and Dad with polka Saturday mornings.
Oh man, you keV remember it's it didn't matter if
we have baseball, didn't matter if we have football, no
matter what it was, it was Saturday. It was Polka
Saturdays in the post Ho household.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Man, So I'm I'm in the Republic of TV's studio
right now.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
It's an incredible, incredible site. And to see, uh, just
the communication that we've had.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I was watching them down earlier today and they have
a correspondent in DC today believe it or not, reporting
on Nevrowski's win. So it's it's funny to see now
I'm here in Morsaul for the United States and you're
in DC yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But well, let's know, it's it's great and I love
the the the work, the partner ship really between Real
America's Voice and TV Republica of course, Mihail Rajon. Of course,
the work that we did to do the watch party
back if folks remember on inauguration to A J and
twenty eight, that was TV Republica stepping up and did
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that along with our great friend Dominic Chartinsky, the MP
from Law and Justice. Kevin, you were there last night
at the election watch party with now president elect. Novrowsky
tell us a little bit, give us a little bit
about the color.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
See how did it sound that night? The election results kept.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Coming in, and these these late breaking polls, you know,
really made it seem as though this guy who everybody
had counted out suddenly had the wind behind his sales
and the hope of a nation really pushing him into
and eventually giving him the presidency of Poland.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Describe the night there at the election party.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, I will say, you talked about it, the hope
of the nation. It has this very eternal flame, not
unlike the JFK and his legacy.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
But but yeah, so I say.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That because I was at the election party.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
And you know the videos playing there when I got
to meet him on his way.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But so it seemed because nobody participated, not nobody, but
Polish citizens were a bit reluctant to participate in the
exit polls, so we didn't really have anything go off of.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
And granted they are paper ballots, much less.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Population than the United States, but yeah, honestly, the color
of the energy was kind of blue, I will say,
But inside is the eternal flame, and the Polish people
never give up their hope and faith in their country,
and it just continues on continues on into the night
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into the day.
Speaker 9 (10:55):
And around three AM, I was hanging out with the campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Campaign workers at a private residence and they were like listen.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh oh listen, wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Hold on, folks.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Kev's like, around three am, I'm hanging out with some
campaign folks at a private residence.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Our cav ari cav no.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, no, I'm not gonna not going to blow you
off here on international.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
TV, folks. I think Kevin Pisolwick might have a little
bit of an arterial motive to be an over and Poland.
I'm just saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Warsaw is a bit more of a liberal city. So
they heard us clanking around and moving the chairs, so
they were like, we got to get these patriots out
of here.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
This is ridiculous for a Sunday night. But yeah, well
this is a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Interview Oh sorry, yeah, I got to interview a bunch
of other.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
MP's at this election party.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You could see that on my Twitter feed and when
in particular.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
Her name is Maya.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
She's she's advocating very much for the women's vote, and
you know, just younger women, you know, uh, it's it's
it's it's awesome to see how much Poland has embraced
the American pattern towards these canis.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Kevin in in some ways. And I understand, of course that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
The election polls, the exit polls will still be coming out.
I'd love to dig through some more of the of
the data in terms of demography there. But are you
seeing a right word shift among the youth like we're
seeing in the United States with gen z and where
where we're starting to actually see some voters in on
the youth side turn out more for the right wing
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candidate and actually make a break with the left.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Are you seeing that as well? You said you were
just doing some interviews.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
I do.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
I do, And.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
So you can see on the map it's still the cities,
you know, towards Berlin, they fail more towards uh Trakowsky.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
But then you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Know the cities are still are still blue quote unquote liberal.
Speaker 9 (12:59):
But also I mean where we're from there you go,
that's the one with Ice, that's uh, you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Know, rural, blue collar Poland Southeast, that's you know, very
very much for Neavrowsky, And like I said, Worsaw is
pretty liberal. I did go out on Saturday night and
it was just a lot of not a lot of madness,
but a lot of people partying, and they were not
in the spirit to really answer. But but that's also
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because Poland has the election silence, and that was on
my previous broadcast about the many people were not even
able to rally or have campaigns two days before.
Speaker 9 (13:38):
Uh, the second round on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
So yeah, when they do that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's so weird where you have to they call it
the election silence, where uh, it's it's basically this this
way that to believe that you know that, you've got
to you've got to you've got to not be able
to talk about the election.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
keV.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
We have a quick break coming up, but people I
want to get into. You know, Kevin and I are
joking around a little bit about just being Polish, but
I mean the amount of corporate money that was put
into this election. The right had no money whatsoever, it
was all self funded. The other side, they've got the corporations,
they've got German money coming in, international money, the money
of Brussels, the money of Soros, literally Soros Junior flies in.
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They brought Obama in, they brought Anne Applebama in They
brought Fantas Bukayama himself in Kuma Aberdeen and.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Guess what you all lost?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Every single one of the globalists went down in flames
as Polish patriots held the line. Yesterday in Warsaw, Polish
patriots absolutely held the line and will continue to do so.
Globalists you want to try at the POSTO Bros. Will
be there every step of the way. Quick break right back.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice headlines. Ukraine
launched massive drone strikes against Russia. The officials say that
the strikes were on five airbases deep inside Russia and
they targeted several strategic bombers. Axios is reporting that the
operation was codenamed Spiderweb. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said intelligence
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agents had been working for months inside of Russia to
get this information. The Ukrainian military smuggled drones into strategic
Russian airfields, wiping out nearly one third of the country's
cruise missile carriers. Ukraine using more than one hundred drones
to carry out the wide reaching military operation. Moscow called
the operation quote a terrorist attack. As negotiations to end
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the war still stall. This comes as Zelensky announced he
is sending a delegation to Turkey today for ceasefire talks
with Russia. Meanwhile, well police in Boulder, Colorado, are releasing
new details about a suspect who set people on fire
during a Jewish community event. At least eight people were
injured when the suspect used a flamethrower and Molotov cocktails
(16:13):
to set the event in flames. The FBI has identified
the attacker by the name of Mohammad Sabri Soliman, who
allegedly yelled Free Palestine while carrying out the crime, and
was living in the United States illegally on an overstaid
tourist visa. Soliman was charged with murder in the first degree,
deliberation with intent, murder in the first degree, extreme indifference,
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crimes against at risk adults and the elderly, first degree assault,
non family, first degree assault, heat of passion, criminal attempt
to commit Class one and class two felonies, and use
of explosives or incendiary devices during felony. Jewish leaders all
across the globe have condemned the act as an anti
Semitic attack, and President Trump announces he Withdrew billionaire Jared
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Isacman's nomination for NASA administrator.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Trump said on True.
Speaker 10 (17:02):
Social that this decision came after review of prior associations,
and he will announce a new nominee who's aligned soon
Bodavidson with her Real Americo's Voice headlines. Back now to
human events.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Today.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
You know that you talk about influencers. These are influencers
and they're friends and mine, Jack k where is wow?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Jack?
Speaker 11 (17:35):
You've got a break.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
He's made it clear that he will be a problem
for the Prime Minister Donald Tusk. Tusk is a pro
European centrist trying to follow through on his more progressive
legislative agenda, but now Nevrotsky says he will stop him
in whichever way he can and causes much gridlock until
the next elections in twenty twenty seven so that his party,
the Law and Justice Party, can sweep back into power.
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Donald Trusk will struggle to fulfill his promises, like liberalizing
the very strict abortion laws in Poland.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And Poland, of course, is a key.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Country for both NATO and the EU, and so for
its allies, this is not good news. Navotsky has criticized
what he said, was excessive interference in Polish affairs by
the European Union.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
All right, Jack Pisobic, we're back live Real America's Voice,
Human Events Daily Salem Radio Network. You just heard MSNBC
right there, and we're also on live with Kevin Pisobic
from Warsaw, Poland Live right now.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
keV, did you hear MSNBC right there.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
They're freaking out because they just found out that one
of the things that's on the agenda right now, the
Polish liberals have been trying to legalize abortion. So abortion,
by the way, currently illegal in Poland. They've been and
it's always been illegal, by the way, since there's been Poland.
They're trying to get it passed up to twelve weeks
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and they just found out, Oh, the new president Navrovsky,
he's going to wait for it. Veto the legislation. Abortion
will remain illegal in Poland. Abortion will not be legal
in Poland. Polish children will not allowed to be allowed
to be aborted, and this cause will continue to be celebrated. Kevin,
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talk about how important that means in a place like Poland.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
And listen again.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
One message for MSNBC, Jack, it's boog Honor Chiezna. They can't.
They can't mess with that in Poland.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
And God Honor, I think fatherland.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that's almost the same as the heartbeat bil I
want to say twelve weeks. I think it's even earlier
than that. But really, I mean, they're not for sale,
these kids. You know, Poland doesn't want any of their
young men first off, to go to Ukraine to battle
in the war.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
And they don't want their kids to be killed. You
don't want them chopped up. It's a slippery slope. I mean,
what you see in America.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What happens to these fetuses, but our children, but.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Their bodies, you know, as they say, But man, we don't.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
The way the solution for all this is to keep
it simple. People make fun of Polish people as being
like dumb and simple, but really some of these solutions
and thankfully, through our faith, the Catholic faith, it can
be that simple in it's in the Catechism for.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
One, and just respecting life.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
We're a pro life, pro God, pro family, you know,
pro tow a in America, it can be that simple
and we can keep it that way. But Poland understands
that clearly, and it's great to see Nebrowski.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Leading the way right up front.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You know he's going to follow through on what he said,
and it won't be hard to do either, because you know,
we have we have so many people in support of him.
The patriots are going to wake up. I can't wait
to see, like, what what is victory for? How he's
going to look like? Hopefully we see more of that
and maybe hey, maybe he'll come come back to America soon.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
Do you do you know?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Do you have do you have a timeframe on that?
Do you know when the rally will be held? Is
that scheduled yet or is it still kind of they're
still waiting to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
They're still waiting to figure things out. Like I said earlier,
they're still kind of in shock of what's happened.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
And nobody, no one shot one.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
But it should be this week sometime. Maybe they're just waiting.
Incredible all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
All right, Kevin. We'll certainly hope to be able to
get you on from there. Folks.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Where can people go Kevin to follow you? Follow all
your updates? You've been doing street interviews, scooter interviews, interviews
with MPs.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
You met the next president of Poland.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Where can they go to get access to all of
your live on the ground report.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, not only here Human Events Daily, but also on
Real America's Voice. But my handle is Kevin Pasovic or
keV Pasovic on Twitter and also on Instagram.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Those are my main channels.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But yeah, I might actually be adding the YouTube as
well soon that the more long form of these interviews
that I collected.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Uh oh uh oh, he's going.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
He's going to multi media, folks, He's going off on us,
Kevin soobick the hottest things since like Kebasi out there, keV,
I got to I gotta ask we have for dinner tonight?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Man? What do you have them for dinner?
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know, I might have some more Kavasi, some Sauer Krau,
some Glovekys. Uh maybe Zurich, Yeah, probably probably.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Guonks though.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
People are saying like, you need copius amounts of gunky
to maintain post O Brothers levels of Polish power, copious
amounts of gunky, Barroggi, Kabaski, all of it, constant, constant qumkin.
Don't mess with pro Gi gang, folks. I'm just telling
you right now, do not mess with Baro gi Gang.
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All right, Jack Misovic, we're right back. Walk through some
of the geopolitical implications of all of this.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
When it's stay tuned.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I'm bout Davidson with your Real America's Voice headlines. Well,
hurricane season has officially begun. Forecasters predict that there will
be between thirteen to nineteen named storms, and of those
thirteen to nineteen, six to ten are projected to become hurricanes,
and three to five of those could become major hurricanes
if there are more than twenty one named storms in
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one season. There's an alternate list of names set for use.
Hurricane season lasts from June first till the end of November,
and another news The race is on this week in
New Jersey to elect the state's next governor. Early in
person voting for both the Republicans and the Democrats starts
on Tuesday ahead of the June tenth primaries. Sitting Governor
Phil Murphy has hit his term limits with his open seats,
(24:19):
sparking a contentious race on both sides leading up to
the general election. New Jersey and Virginia are the only
states with gubernatorial elections this year, and each state's results
could indicate what voter sentiment will be ahead of the midterms. Meanwhile,
a transgender athlete has taken home gold medals in California
over the weekend. Ab Hernandez, a biological male who transitioned
(24:41):
to female, bested the high school track and field competitions
in high jump and triple jump amidst a nationwide controversy
about permitting trans athletes in girls athletics. Hernandez competed under
a new rule change by the California Interscholastic Federation that
allows an additional female student to qualify and medle rever
Hernandez had qualified. However, this event did not go unopposed,
(25:04):
as an aircraft with the banner no Boys in Girls'
sports flew overhead Now. Our recent AP poll found that
seven in ten US adults think that trans athletes should
not be allowed to compete in women's sports at the
high school, collegiate or the professional level. Meanwhile, Ukraine, the
crisis in Ukraine still continues to ramp up, with Ukraine
(25:27):
launching massive drone strikes against Russia. Officials say the strikes
were on five air bases deep inside Russia and they
targeted several strategic bombers. Axios reports that the operation was
codenamed Spiderweb.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Those are your headlines.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
Let's get back now to Human Events with Jack pisobc.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Hey, Jack, Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is it Jack?
Speaker 9 (25:58):
I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
What did Jock?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You do?
Speaker 9 (26:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
We have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the
fake news.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Of the band, but we have guys, and these are
the guys who are forgetting bullishes.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
All right, Jack Prasobic, we are back live here Human
Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network. You got
Kevin Pisobic gone in the last segment. Kevin's going to
be dancing a polka tonight in Warsaw. By the way, folks,
I did want to amend something I just said talking
about abortion laws in Poland.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So listen to this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And there was a period, actually so belame my last
where abortion was legal and in fact permitted, one of
the most permissive in all of Europe at the time.
That is during the Soviet occupation, So roughly nineteen forty
five to nineteen eighty nine, a forty five forty four
year period where abortion laws were liberal under the Soviet regime.
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In nineteen fifty six, there was a law passed by
that Communist backed regime in Poland, so the Soviet Union,
the Communists wanted this to be allowed for the polls. However,
after the fall of Communism, when John Paul the Second
Pope John Paul the Second came to Poland worked for
the fall of communism, abortion was made illegal yet again,
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with the exception of the three the three exceptions the
mother's life, fetal abnormalities, or pregnancy resulting from either crime
or incest. And so it is still restricted, and they
are now waiting for this to and now.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It will continue to be restricted.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And so, folks, the geopolitical implications of this are very
very serious because we've got Ukraine right next to Poland.
That town Jezhov, where I spoke is is the key
NATO checkpoint for all of the NATO supplies, for the
vast majority of the NATO supplies that are going into Ukraine.
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And so this is why those supply lines are critical,
and that's why Poland is a critical node for the
defense military industrial complex going into Ukraine. And so I
wanted to dig into quite a bit of this now.
In fact, by the way, just so no folks know Nevrovsky.
When he won the first round of the Polish election,
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he then had to campaign for more right wing votes,
and when he did so, he said number one, he
signed a pledge saying I will not permit Ukraine to
allow to enter NATO or to enter the EU and
push for what peace with Russia on the talks of
the Ukraine War.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now we've got these competing piece.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Agreements and demands out of Istanbul earlier today from both
the Ukrainian side and the Russian side. Ukraine is asking
for maximalist demands. They want to be allowed to stay
in or at least keep it right open, to stay
in contention for a NATO membership. Russia of course flipping
around and saying absolutely not no NATO. They're all asking
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for full recognition for CRIMEA, for CRIMEA, for donnask, lu Ghans,
Zaparija and Harson. So I wanted to break down all
of these pieces that are walking through, and so we
have Jack Montgomery from the National polls. He joins us
now by phone, Jack, how are.
Speaker 11 (29:32):
You I'm well, compa Sobia, So are you.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I'm well, I'm well.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So we're looking at this incredible victory, stunning victory, and
I want to ask you specifically the question of Ukraine.
What role do you believe this played in the election
in Poland yesterday.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
Well, you know, it's very difficult Ukraine issue because I
think when the war first started out, there was a
great deal of sympathy for the Ukrainians. Of course, there
is a big institutional memory here in Poland off the
occupation of the war the Soviet soldiers, and after the
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annexation of Crimea in twenty fourteen, a great deal of
Ukrainians came here, so a lot of people knew Ukrainians
and the sympathized with the Ukrainians. There's stories here about
the troubles they're in back home. But as time has
gone on, there has been a degree of losing patients
with Ukraine. There have been difficulties between the Ukrainian and
the Polish governments over for example, flooding grain into the
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Polish market, which has been bad for the farmers here,
especially bad for Law and Justice Party voters and people
do not want really to be dragged into a wider war.
People know that NATO membership for Ukraine is effectively war
with Russia. European Union membership for Ukraine may not be
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too far behind because there are mutual they're weak, but
that are mutual defense clauses in the European Union treaties
that could theoretically drag the rest of the European Union
into a general war, but crucially without the United States backing,
you know, because it would be quite apart from the
NATO treaties. Now, that's not something europe is equipped to handle,
(31:21):
and it's not something most Europeans want. There's been a
long time here where the economy has been struggling. There's
been inflation, inflation connected to the war, the pandemic, the
pandemic before that, and of course the cost of just
looking after so many refugees, you know, a.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
Good another good million of across the border.
Speaker 12 (31:42):
And so I think that that really was something that
was playing on people's minds as they went to the polls.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Well on this this moved to the right as well.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I think is significant because he had to pick up
the support of the right wing parties for the American
side of the audience here on Real America's Voice in
the Salem Radio Network. That Poland, like most European countries,
is a multi party democracy, and so in the parliament
you need a coalition in order to maintain a majority.
(32:14):
And so this coalition that actually won here in a sense,
that won the election came through with the support of
those other right wing parties. Confederazia had said positive that
maybe not a full endorsement, but had said positive things
about Navrovsky. Another presidential candidate, Grigors Braun, had come out
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and did a full endorsement. And it really was these
pledges and moving to the right on a few issues
that I think allowed Neavrovsky to pick up a lot
of that support, and in fact gen Z in many ways,
Jack is picking up a lot of support for the
right wing as well. It's similar to trends that we're
seeing in the United States as well as Canada and
(32:57):
the UK. Are you seeing that as well in some
of the data that and I know it's still early,
but i'd really love to see if we have any
data on right wing shift for gen Z.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Yes, now I don't have the data to hand, but
from what I've been seeing, and this is a phenomenon
we saw in the European elections recently as well in Poland,
Confedera Confederation, which is a populist party for the most
parts of the Right of Law and Justice, which is
the party aligned with Nevrotsky. They are now the most
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popular party among eighteen to thirty nine year olds, certainly
among eighteen to thirty nine year old young men.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Now.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
At the same time there is a move towards the
left among the youth parties to the left of Chefskovski
and Preme Minister Tu parties and Weather Coalition, but there's
a strong right word shift among the youth in Poland,
and they broke also once Confederats was out of this
(33:57):
race for Nevrotsky. So this is something it's something very
interesting to me as someone from Britain because for a
long time in Britain you were really you were looking
into the abyss, you know. Even if what you know,
even if the notional right wing in Britain was winning elections,
it was usually with strong support from people who were
middle aged up to really pensioners, people who were much older,
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while the youth was becoming increasingly left wing. Now that
has started to shift about with Nagel Farational Reform Party.
But it's a very different situation for the most part
in continental Europe, populist parties and the Brosky the National
Conservatives are popular in Poland. The alternative for Germany party
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in Germany, the FD did very well among a younger voters.
And I think it's really in some ways it's a
sign of the failure of the old kind of boomer
political establishment people who are not necessarily only on the left,
but the establishment right win parties now well. And Justice
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would fall into the category of establishment right in Poland.
But the establishment right in Poland is much more conservative
than the establishment right certainly in Britain and France, and
even to a great extent, certainly socially in America.
Speaker 11 (35:17):
So this is a real shift, a real signal that
Andrew Briibar was.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
Correct when he said politics is downstream from culture, because
I think this has been driven by a shift in
the culture.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think that's right, and I think as well, it
has to be said that in the same way that
the generations, and we see this in Poland as well,
where there's a shift in the way the generations receive
their news in the way that they vote as well.
So you'll typically see a lot of the older set
that watches a lot of TV news, that watches a
(35:52):
lot of cable, that watches a lot of corporate television,
and reads corporate newspapers. They tend to be more or liberal,
or in the Polish context you would call it the globalist.
Whereas in as it with the younger set, you're on
social media more, you're listening to podcasts, more, you're listening.
I'm told there's quite a few Human Events daily listeners
(36:12):
in Poland, So shout out to those guys, if be
happy to be.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Listening to this.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But at the younger you are, the more I think
diversified your viewpoints are that you're receiving through social media
to get your news, and it ends up making people
tend to be more right wing. And we're seeing that
across the West right now, aren't we.
Speaker 11 (36:32):
I think that's exactly right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
A real phenomenon, a real problem we've had on the
right broadly speaking, across the West in you know, for
decades really, but certainly for recent years, as people have
not been satisfied with what the right wing establishment has
been offering them, whether that's the GOP or the British Conservatives,
(36:55):
the Tories, the almost completely now destroy French Republicans parties
like this, but they've always been able to keep people
in line, particularly older people, by saying, well, really, I mean,
but if you don't vote for us, then the other
guys are going to get back in.
Speaker 11 (37:13):
The left is going to get back in. So it
said it's us or nothing.
Speaker 12 (37:17):
You know, like if there's any or Well fans in
your audience, you'll might remember Squealer, the little propagandist pig
on animal farm who would always keep the animals in
line no matter how bad things got, by saying, yes, yes,
times are tough comrades, but if you don't knuckle under,
if you don't back us, farmer Jones will come back.
And that's what the establishment right has been able to
(37:37):
do for a very long time, a very long time
really across the Western world until now, you know, until now,
you have these use organizations like the National Pulse, like
Human Events, you have these social media characters that are
able to push out an alternative message, a different message,
a different vision for conservatism for the right, and it's
(37:59):
able to reach a great deal of people.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
And so that has a forced of course, it's.
Speaker 12 (38:05):
Allowed people who are genuinely genuine national conservatives populists to rise,
but it's also forced.
Speaker 11 (38:12):
People who maybe would not like to go along.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
With that rise, thinking perhaps some people in the senergy
will be and elsewhere to.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
Take account of their views and to stop pamming the Jack.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
We're just coming up to the end of our segment.
Where can people go to get more from you at
the National Pulse.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
And you can go to the National Pulse dot com
to subscribe to us and you can see me on
a on X.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Jack Montgomery, all right, from one Jack to another, appreciate
you being on.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Go follow the National Pulse, folks.
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Speaker 4 (40:36):
I am back in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
After a world win trip through Europe, poland Hungary, brief
stopover in Paris.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Wanted to take my kids.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I promised my kids, actually that I had the opportunity
to do so, I would take them to see the
open and restored Notre Dame Cathedral. And as it turns out,
we had a layover in Paris, so that is exactly
what we did. Unfortunately, though, this came as the same
day as massive rots in Paris, as a killing took
(41:12):
place in the night as things got completely out of
hand as cheers for the European Championship League victory which
Paris won turned into something far more sinister, and I
was out on the streets with Tany and the little boys,
and I just I got to say, I said, I
(41:33):
have a bad feeling. This is getting out of control.
There's too many illegals here, there's too many migrants. And
we went inside. We got back to a hotel. They
had barricaded the doors to the courtyard because they knew
what was coming, and we'd used the intercom system just
to get inside. We did before the brunt of anything
really bad went off. But hundreds were arrested, and that
(41:57):
was where we were on Saturday night with my children
and my wife. But fortunately we were okay. We stayed inside.
Notre Dame is beautiful, by the way, but Paris isn't
Paris anymore, as President Trump has told us, and it
needs to be fixed. And that potentially played a role
even in the Polish elections that we're talking about here,
(42:19):
because that happened just the night before Poland went to
the ballot box. And you never want, you never know
in these these small, these very small, these very small
margin races, and of course Seabac Poland coming is when
it did an absolute.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Victory for the entire group there.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
But over at istanbul I mentioned this earlier that there
were some reports coming out regarding proposals from the Russians
and the Ukrainian So Russia has come out and says, look,
we want to end the war and they're talking about
those four districts that they want. So I mentioned it before,
don natsk lukanzk Zabarija Harson and of course Primea. They
(43:00):
want all of that recognized by the diplomatic community. They
want complete military and neutrality. That means no NATO, no
to any blocks, downsizing of the Ukrainian military, limits on personnel,
limits on weaponry, outlaw all Nazi organizations, lift restrictions on
the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, lift mutual sanctions and if if
(43:22):
by the way, Ukraine is calling for an immediate cease buyer.
Here's Russia's demands for that. Ukraine must begin withdrawing its
forces from all Russian territory, stop mobilization efforts and begin demobilization.
Stop all foreign military aid that would include the United States,
remove all third party military personnel from its territory and
(43:44):
martial law. Schedule parliamentary and presidential elections no longer than
one hundred days after the end of martial law.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
And by the way, this attack, which took place.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Over the weekend, Ukraine claims that they struck forty one
Russian strategic bombers. Russia claims it was much smaller number,
maybe in the single digits, and also that many of
the bombers are still operational. Of course, you know have
to remain to see for the battle damage assessment there.
But the ability of the Ukrainians to conduct an attack
(44:15):
like this is raising a lot of questions as to say,
how could they have done this on their own? How
could they have done this without satellite imagery. There's only
one country that Ukraine is partnered with that has the
satellite imagery that's allowed that's able to do that, and
that's the United States of America. Now, is it possible
that uk could have provided it, perhaps, but far more
(44:36):
likely that US satellite imagery would allow for the real
time locating of the positions of these bombers where they were,
when they would be there, knowing at a time that
they would be vulnerable for attack like this. On the
flip side, the Ukrainians now in their ceasefire demands they're
at and peace demands they're they're asking for full guarantees
(44:58):
of Ukraine's right to join the EU and NATO, the
right to Ukraine to station foreign troops on its territory Russia,
all Russian games after February twenty fourteen will not be recognized,
and that frozen Russian state assets will be used for
the restoration of Ukraine, essentially given to Ukraine. This is
(45:19):
a you know, this is a situation where they are
asking for land to be returned to them when they
are effectively the ones who are actually not on the
winning side of this war.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
All of this is what President Trump needs to get into.
It's very clear this piece deal will not take place
unless it's between President Trump and President Putin directly. It
needs to be US Russia negotiations. These guys are never
going to agree to terms when it's just given the
two of them, Folks, big victory in Poland, big w
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