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June 3, 2025 46 mins

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Segment A: The Threat of the Ukraine - Russia War Escalating to WW3
Segment B: What is the Damage Battle Assessment of the Ukraine Attacks on Russia?
Segment C: The Russian War of Attrition - It’s not about land, it’s about lives
Segment D: The Neo Con’s Relentless Push for WW3
Segment E: The Balance of World Power Between BRICS and the United States

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Grain and Russia today met for the second time in
two weeks to discuss peace, but walked away without any
progress toward ending the war. The fighting is as intense
as ever, and this weekend Ukraine launched an unprecedented attack,
launching drones deep inside Russia to target Russian bombers.

Speaker 8 (01:50):
Ladies and y'all welcome on board today's edition of Human
Events Daily Here Live Washington, DC. Today's June third, twenty
twenty five Anno Dominie. Another Ukrainian attack on the Curve
Straight Bridge. This is the key bridge connecting Crimea to
the Russian homeland the Russian mainland, and this bridge has

(02:14):
been targeted multiple times throughout the war. Ukrainians this time
attacking with an underwater bomb. We're told in the past
they used a terro style attack with a truck bomb,
killing the trucker that had been smuggled in across the
across essentially the back route into PRIMEA. This likely employed

(02:38):
the use of underwater unmanned vehicles essentially seaborn drones, and
in order to get the bomb to where it was now,
the Piling agency drone attack which took place reportedly on
Russian strategic bombers part of their nuclear cryad.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Over the weekend.

Speaker 8 (03:00):
And what we need to understand is separate the fact
from fiction here. There are forces within the West, forces
within NATO. There are forces, yes, within Western governments to
include the United States and United Kingdom that do not
want this war and all of these wars to end.

(03:21):
Did you think that they would just let you end
the war? Did they think that they would just let
peace win. There's no money in peace. There's no profit
in peace. What big military and big war ones is more.
And they don't care if World War three kicks off
because they sit back and say, well, guess what, we

(03:42):
can sell munitions to both sides.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
The world just woke up over the.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
Weekend to the massive drone vulnerabilities that all of our
Air force fleets now face. It's not just the Russians.
Guess who else is vulnerable to that? And I said
on Twitter yesterday what happens when the Chinese drones take
off from all of the farmland that they purchased right

(04:07):
next to our air force bases, and the targeting that
they have from the balloon that the Chinese flew across
our strategic bases.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Are you waking up?

Speaker 8 (04:17):
The United States of America is currently vulnerable and these
idiots in Washington are escalating US towards World War three.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (04:30):
It is irresponsible, and they are sitting back and acting
like it's a joke, like it's all some kind of game.
This isn't a game. This is all of our lives.
This is our families lives, This is our children's lives,
the lives of our generation and the generations to come.
We will stop this war, and we're not going to

(04:52):
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Now we're going to be doing an entire intel briefing
on what's going on visa v Ukraine. And what better
way to do that than to bring on one of

(06:45):
our best military analysts.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
At least in terms of guests on the show, we
have some hosts around here that are pretty good at
the military analysis stuff as well. Folks. Is Lieutenant Colonel
Tony Shaffer.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
Hey, Jack, good to see you.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I've got to.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
Ask you, so these attacks that Ukraine has been conducting
in what would be considered non battlefield targets. I think
back in the Russian deep, within Russian lines, behind Russian lines,
the curse Strate Bridge Bridge. I believe this is the
third time it's been attacked since the war has commenced,
these Russian bombers.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now here's an interesting question.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
The attacks get a lot of headlines, but as an
intel officer, or even back when I was a junior
intel analyst, the first question that I have after I
see a strike like this is BDA. What's the BDA?
That was the training that I always received. What is
the battle damage assessment? Is this operational? Is it inoperational?
Is it repairable, is it still like full capacity, is

(07:43):
it diminished capacity? How long is it going to take
to get it back online? Or do we have total destruction?
And in some of these cases, it feels like the
headlines are a little bit separated from the reality that's
actually on the ground.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Tony, what's your read on it.

Speaker 11 (07:58):
Well, the first thing you have to do to get
to the b d A is get through the propaganda,
and so what you've seen is no doubt.

Speaker 10 (08:07):
This was a masterful attack. I'm not going to diminish.

Speaker 11 (08:10):
The the amount of gumption and planning it took to
get those drones into those targets all the way to Siberia.
With that said, we have to evaluate what we see.
A lot of the footage we've been given is from
dates not relevant to this one. That is to say

(08:31):
these were these uh, these the videos of the strikes
aren't necessarily related to the Spiderweb project. They're old or
from different locations, from different times. And what I'm seeing
is an amplification, primarily by the British media, to make
everybody believe there was something like seven to nine billion.

Speaker 10 (08:55):
Dollars of damage done.

Speaker 11 (08:57):
I've seen that figures like Yeah, that's not that's not relevant.

Speaker 10 (09:01):
Was there significant damage done?

Speaker 11 (09:03):
Yeah, they hit a number of a significant number of
Tu twenty of TU ninety five bare bombers, which are
part of the strategic nucletar force of the Russian nuclear triad.

Speaker 10 (09:17):
So it was that significant. Yeah, but it wasn't.

Speaker 11 (09:20):
Anywhere near as significant as we were being led to believe.
So we can't even get to the BDA until we
figure out what exactly the damage was because we're not
really being told at.

Speaker 10 (09:33):
What it was. And secondly, why are we not being told.

Speaker 11 (09:36):
Well, the amplification here, Jack, is because we are supposed
to buy into this idea as Americans that the Ukrainians,
Oh yeah, they can still beat the Russians, they're not licked.
And if they can do this with forty million dollars,
imagine what they could do with several more billion.

Speaker 10 (09:56):
In other words, they're trying to.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
Both disrupt the peace process, which we know they're doing openly,
and trying to eventually convince us, the United States that
the Biden policy was the correct policy to give them
unlimited money. And I do a lot of research, you
know that, I know to do a lot of show prep.
There's constant videos on YouTube talking about how brave the

(10:19):
Ukrainian soldiers are and how they've adapted technology. So there's
a full blown charm campaign against us focused on us.
So this fifth generation warfare, it's being directed on us.
Lindsey Graham's part of it. I just don't think it's
going to work.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Yeah, once again we see that one side is winning
in the information narrative. One side is winning the information
war and another side is winning the actual war on
the ground. Right, Because when I go and look at
the front lines over in eastern Ukraine, when I look
at don ask Blugan for some of these areas Assumai

(11:02):
or around Barkov, other areas that have been under dispute
between the Russians and the Ukrainians, I don't see the
Ukrainians making advances on the battlefield. I see the Russians
making advances. And by the way, not in these huge
you know, the barrel runs, the blitzbrig attacks that you
would see from an American military.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Perspective or native perspective.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
It is slow encirclement operations and slowly and slowly grinding
them down.

Speaker 11 (11:30):
So let me hit that, because I see this constant
demunition by certain voices within conservative media about how effective
the Russians are.

Speaker 10 (11:41):
Jack Keane was on the other.

Speaker 11 (11:42):
Day talking about almost as pissive they've they've.

Speaker 10 (11:47):
Been fighting to take Ukraine.

Speaker 11 (11:49):
For the past three years and it's and they're still
not doing it. It's like Jack, that's not what they're
trying to do.

Speaker 10 (11:55):
This. This is not a war of maneuver, this is
not a war of blitsquise. It's a war of attrition.

Speaker 11 (12:00):
And the Russian objective is to degrade and the basically
uh this uh demilitarize Ukraine and the West.

Speaker 10 (12:15):
So that's what they're doing.

Speaker 11 (12:17):
They're doing it slow and methodic because the Ukrainians keep
throwing stuff against their defenses and degree and lose it
so wild.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's attrition warfare.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
And we don't understand attrition warfare because we don't.

Speaker 11 (12:30):
What Jack says, they're not winning. It's like you don't
understand what they're doing if you say that, and that's
a bad sign.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Right.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
So they've created they've created essentially a position where they
can take take up strong, strong positions in the East,
and rather than focus on taking land, the focus is
actually on detriting and attriting the Ukrainian military exactly because
they know that it doesn't matter how much how many

(13:01):
weapons and artillery and ammunition and the rest of it.
And I would look, I was just in the region.
I was in Jejov, Poland. It was just right on
the border. My family lives right on the Ukrainian border
with Poland.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
We were just there a week ago.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
And all of that ammunition the NATO supplies that are
running through Jezov and then also through Romania and other
spots into Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
That okay, even if that didn't stop.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
And of course that's another piece of this as well
with President regarding President Trump, on the other side of
it is that doesn't matter if you don't have the soldiers,
because it requires soldiers to hold land. There are no
amount of drones that can actually cold territory and occupy territory.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's not how that works.

Speaker 8 (13:43):
There's incredible things you can do with technology, but it
doesn't matter how much starlinks you have or how many
drones you have, you cannot hold territory without soldiers. And
so what the Russian military is doing is saying, well,
we may not have the technological advantage, but we do
have the battleflight advantage in terms of numbers. So that's

(14:03):
what our focus is on. We're not going to fight
the technology. We're going to fight the soldiers. Tony Schaeffer.
We've got a quick break coming up, but I want
to hold you over because this is so important and
people need to understand the danger of the escalation here
if we climb up that escalatory ladder with the Russians
and walk away from this piece deal, which I think

(14:26):
is it's in the works, but I keep saying this,
This is not going to break.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
The deadlock will not be broken.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
The loggerheads are the situation right now until President Trump
and President Putin are able to hash this out together.
Quick break right back, Jack Pasovic, Salem Radio Network, Really
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In twenty fifteen, there were just two.

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Nine hundred and forty two instances, but in twenty twenty
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Those are your headlines. Now back to Human Events today.

Speaker 13 (17:22):
You know that you talk about influencers. These are influencers
and their friends of mine. Jack Sock, Where Jack got dy?

Speaker 8 (17:36):
Jack Posovic back live here, Human Events Daily, Real Americer's
voiceail and radio network. We're all with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer.
We're talking about the war of attrition in Ukraine and
the propaganda war that is being waged across the information outlets.
Right now, Ukraine is currently winning the information war, but

(17:57):
the question is are they winning the war of attrition
or of attrition works like this, it's not about taking land,
it's about taking lives. And so when people look at
the map on a day to day basis, they'll say,
wait a minute, Russia can't be winning. Look, UKRAINI has
held them to this pocket in the east. Well, the
question on the other side is perhaps, but which side

(18:20):
has more lives? One side has many more than the other.
I want to bring Lieutenant Colonel Schaeffer on here tony.
Is this what the Russian's goal has been all along
when they talk about demilitarization. Yes, they want these provinces,
but they're also not sending And we saw this, by
the way, with some strategic drawdowns in places like Hersan,

(18:44):
switching to the other side of the river where their
resupply is more advantageous to them, because obviously it's just
it just shares a land border with Russia. Rather than
have to go across the river, they're sitting on one
side of it. And every time the Ukrainians attempt across
the Neper they are met with a massive onslaught and barrage.
This has been their strategy for the last couple of years,
and they seem to leave times on their side. I'll

(19:06):
just throw another anecdote. I sat down with Prime Minister
Victor Orbon last week in Budapest in his presidential palace
and the Prime Minister's residence, and absolutely honored to be there.
And he told me that he went to the Russians
and said, will you sue for peace? And the Russians

(19:27):
told him, well, we're winning and we have time on
our side. And then he went to the Ukrainians and said,
will you choose peace? And they told him we're winning
and time is on our side. I said, okay, Tony,
which side is right?

Speaker 11 (19:41):
Well, if they both persist in that attitude, I think
it's time for us to decide time is time for
us to leave?

Speaker 10 (19:50):
But ask not your question. Your question is is winning?

Speaker 11 (19:52):
I think the Russians are winning, and not buy a
little by a lot to your point, the Russians, we
let me phrase it as a question, why would you
expose yourself to extended risk by sending folks forward in
offensive operations which exposed you to additional drones, Additional like

(20:13):
you point out, going doing river cross crossings, you become vulnerable.
Why do that when you're basically facing an enemy who
is badly advised, badly led. Frankly, people like Mark Millie,
you know, a rocket scientist if I ever met one,
is telling you stupid things, not giving you the right strategy.
Why would you want to expose yourself to risk if

(20:36):
you could just sit back and let them come wave
after wave on your strength and lose. I would argue
by doing this, they're going to basically leave Ukraine a
rump state by the fact that it'll be not only
the militarized, it'll be depopulated. The Russians have an order

(20:59):
of more men and resources to throw at this, and
they're just sitting there. And so the more Ukraine throws
their stuff in there they have their time, the more
they lose time and lose resources.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
So I don't think it's close.

Speaker 11 (21:13):
I think the Russians, should they choose to use implement
a military solution on this, they could be done by
July or August.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
This and by the way, this is summer, and two
summers ago Ukraine was talking about their massive counter offensive.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Tony, the Russians, we all said it wasn't going to
work out.

Speaker 10 (21:34):
Right with that, we said, this is not going to work.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Do you think the Russians are poised for a breakout
right now?

Speaker 11 (21:42):
I think if they choose to break out, absolutely, I
don't think they're going to choose to break down. I
think the going to allow the remainder of Biden approved
materiel and equipment to show up over the next thirty days,
get to probably the first of June of July, and
then once that's done. By the way, why the Russians

(22:02):
notice already that with less patriot air defense systems, less
stuff to stop their drones, they're being more effective. So
why why risk going at the Ukrainian strength when the
Russians know it's just a matter of time before they
run out of stuff. The Russians are going to hang

(22:23):
back jack and they're going to hit at the time
of their choosing. And I think if things aren't resolved,
if President Trump doesn't get Putin and Zelenski into a
room and set them down and try to talk reason
with them, the Russians will decide in about thirty days
probably to go on a breakout towards mid to late July.

(22:45):
And I think they will. They will implement a military
solution to this. And I don't think they want all Ukraine.
They want what they have. They want to turn those
into Russian provinces and be wild and so.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Just about it. Out of time. What a note to
end on. Where can people follow you?

Speaker 10 (23:04):
She spooky on.

Speaker 11 (23:05):
Twitter and then Project Sentinel dot com.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
Thanks Jack, always enjoy our conversations.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Absolutely incredible. Please come back soon. We'd break right back.

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But Kevin Posobic was also there because he was doing

(27:57):
something on the ground. Reporting turns out that in Humhungry,
there's now a referendum going on nationwide should Ukraine be
allowed into the European Union? And this vote is going
to be taking place very soon here in Hungary. Kevin
Posovic was on the scene to collect some interviews.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Here's what we got.

Speaker 14 (28:19):
Hey, it's Kevin Pasovic live in Budapest, Hungary, and we're
here at the park today to see we can get
a couple of people on on screen for box twenty
twenty five. It's the Hungarian consensus to see whether or
not Ukraine should or shouldn't join in with the EU.
Let's see what we can get into. You can't agree

(28:45):
with me. You don't know communism physically.

Speaker 15 (28:51):
I'm not against Ukraine joining the UK.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
About to the question is that the women? I'm again okay?

Speaker 15 (29:02):
And on what conditions? You know that's smart after that's
the most important question. No, not dyes or no alone,
but the combitions.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It doesn't have a very good reputation anymore. Zelensky, I
would happen to agree with you.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
It is now the right time?

Speaker 14 (29:25):
Should Ukraine join or should we let them join or
wait a little longer.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
That seems to be the consensus.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
That we've gathered so far.

Speaker 14 (29:33):
You know, we're just getting through COVID, We're still getting
through the war with Russia.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't think they should join or be allowed to join.

Speaker 14 (29:41):
The people here Budapest seems to have spoken, and we'd
like to see an end of the war. We'd like
to see peace treaties, and we'd like Zelensky to really
grow up and if anything, learn how to wear a
suit before he does any negotiations in the future.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
All Right, there you have.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
That's Kevin Pisovik finding out that the people of Hungary
are actually not interested in having Ukraine join the EU
and obviously talking about NATO as well. We saw the
win of the huge nationalist victory in Poland just a
few days ago, where the candidate Nebrovski who won also
campaigned on not allowing Ukraine into NATO or the EU.

(30:23):
Doctor Steve Turley joins us now to discuss this in
all things geopolitical, Doctor Turley, We've seen these escalations over
the past twenty four forty eight hours regarding these attacks
in Russia by Ukraine on strategic bombers as well as

(30:45):
this key transportation node obviously a civilian.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Node of the Kurage Street bridge.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
But flipping back to it and look at the situation,
the huge push is against Ukraine being in NATO and
really a push for peace talks.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Where does this all shake out?

Speaker 8 (31:02):
Why are we still seeing a massive push for World
War three?

Speaker 16 (31:06):
Oh my, yeah, wow, you just have so much in
that question. Why are we seeing the push in the end,
because we are seeing neocons mourn over the prospect of
their dying liberal international order, and NATO is intrinsic to
that order. NATO is more or less the globalist police

(31:30):
force that enforces the order that comes from the three
major globalist institutions of the IMF, the wto the World Bank.
That's what gave us our kind of rules based order.
And when all said and done, I think we could
make the arguments. Certainly it seems that the people that

(31:51):
were interviewed would agree with this. But Ukraine more or
less became a proxy for that order. They became a
proxy for the Victoria, Newland State Department, particularly after twenty
fourteen and the overthrow of the Janikovic government with the
Maydean Revolution, and so there really isn't an independent Kiev

(32:16):
responding to the will of the people. It's just a
puppet of this larger globalist matrix that Trump is basically
shattering as we speak. He's called repeatedly NATO obsolete. He's
consigning the WTO to total obsolescence with the emergence of
his bilateral trade agreements and tariff policies and the like.

(32:39):
The IMF isn't playing much of rule any more, of
the World Bank isn't playing much of a rule. So
by what's the only way you could try to resurrect
the relevance of these institutions? Trigger Article five that will
somehow get NATO and supposedly the world it guards, this
liberal international order back resurrected.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
And so they're trying.

Speaker 16 (33:03):
I think they're trying to go putin into bombing a
NATO country and at least putting Article five on the table.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
I don't think he's gonna bite. I don't think he's
gonna take it.

Speaker 16 (33:14):
And I don't think most Europeans buy into this. I
think they recognize as as you just Kenvin demonstrated there.
I think they recognize that when they're dealing with Zelenski
and Ukraine, they're not dealing with an actual democratic country. Heck,
I don't even when's the last time they had an
election with twenty nineteen. They're not dealing with a democratic country.

(33:34):
They're dealing with a proxy for globalist interests.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
And this is what it's all about, because we've seen
this rejection of globalism now in Poland, huge rejections of
globalism in Hungary, a obviously here in the United States,
a massive rejection of globalism. But President Trump's election was
also predicated on this idea of ending.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
The march towards World War II.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
And yet we still see many of these elements within
whether it be the intelligence community, whether it be elements
of the military industrial complex in the United States, or
really the Five Eyes community writ large, which you know,
and I'm going viral now for a clip I did
on War Room yesterday with Steve benn And saying that
there's no way that Ukraine would be able to carry

(34:22):
out these these bombing campaigns, especially these deep targets within
Russia without the knowledge or perhaps and likely the coordination
of the Five Eyes intelligence apparatus, because that's the only
way you could get the strategic real time targeting information
that you would need only provided by satellites, and only
the US and the UK have access to that and

(34:43):
capability of that kind of technology, you know, unless starlink
is they all secretly have cameras on them and maybe
Elon's just helping them on the side. I don't think so.
But doctor Turley, do you view this as a as
a potential wedge and attempt to break down these peace talks?

Speaker 16 (35:02):
Absolutely, as a matter of fact, I saw that spot
on the war room.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
I think I even retweeted it was brilliant. Yeah, I do,
because the peace talks mean the end of the liberal
international order.

Speaker 16 (35:14):
Because these peace talks, I think we all recognize these
are going to be settled on Russia's terms. Russia is
going to keep twenty percent of the territories, no way.
They've got the done Bass, they've got Harson, they've got Zaparosia,
and of course they've got Crimea that's not going away.
And the European leaders from well originally Boris Johnson now

(35:36):
to Kures Starmer, mat Crawl, they're all saying no. You know,
at the beginning, they were all saying no, we could
even get Crimea. We're going to take Crimea back. It's
all nonsense, it's all I mean. Russia has fortified itself
in twenty percent of Ukraine. For right, if for wrong,
I'm being purely descriptive, not prescriptive.

Speaker 9 (35:57):
That is just the reality of it.

Speaker 16 (35:58):
If we're conservatives, want to deal with reality, right, And
so I think that Trump has made it exactly just said.
He was not voted in to escalate this conflict.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
Conflict. He was voted in to de escalate it.

Speaker 16 (36:13):
And unfortunately, I think you're I think there's so many
neocon cold war mentality, uh, you know, forces within the
deep state and within the military industrial complex to basically
do what they what they can to try to prevent

(36:33):
that from happening. If they could stretch this out another
four years and maybe get a Democrat in, maybe they
can reignite that or try to reignite this liberal international order.

Speaker 9 (36:43):
But as far as I see it, it's over. It's dead,
it's gone.

Speaker 16 (36:46):
It's it's gone from the hearts and minds of the
vast majority of Westerners.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
It's gone.

Speaker 16 (36:51):
It's certainly gone as far as China is concerned. In
Russia's concerned, India's concern increasingly, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the
United Arab Emirates. And I think it's just it's a
matter of time before it'll be gone in Washington.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
D C.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
But until well, and doctor going to do in the meantime.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well, I think that's right, and we're up against a
quick break here.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
But one of the interesting and we'll talk about this
in the next segment, one of the interesting takeaways I
think I have from President Trump's recent dust up with
the South Africans is that Trump, I think instinctively understands
So obviously he cares about the specific issue of the
genocide that's taking place in South Africa, but also he's
looking at the world through the new lens of multi polarity.

(37:35):
Who is the greatest potential parallel structure to the West, Well,
it's bricks. And who is of course the weakest link
in bricks. It's South Africa. So that's why he's targeting them.
There's a key geostrategic element to all of this that
I think everyone's missing, that this is a way for
him to now is he is he you know, going

(37:56):
as hard as he could know, But he's certainly picking
at a wound that he knows will create issues for
the Chinese, will create issues for the Russians as well.
Why because he's locked in negotiations with both of them.
People don't look at these things in multiple dimensions. But
that's always been one of President Trump's strengths, multi dimensional

(38:21):
thinking that if you target the South Africans and put
pressure on them, that it indirectly puts creates leverage on
China and Russia as well. Because member the sen Bricks
is South Africa. Jack Posovic, doctor Steve Turley, breaking down
everything hopefully that's going on in the world and having

(38:43):
some fun while we do a quick break, will be
right back.

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Speaker 8 (40:35):
And we're also going through how President Trump is guiding
the United States through the lens of not just the
Ukraine War, but also the Israel Gaza conflict where the
administration and I posted a video yesterday on X has
been involved with sending aid to the people of Gaza,

(40:57):
but also working with both sides there of course, been
pushing for ceasefire early on the return of the hostages.
But doctor Turley, what we're seeing though, and you just
mentioned you hit the nail on the head. These peace
talks represent the end of the international liberal order. President Trump,
I believe understands this and is guiding the United States

(41:20):
through this thicket, this jungle and setting us up to
be in a position where we do have fortress America,
where we are strengthened in this new international, multi polarity world,
where we are economically strong, we are no longer dependent
on the system of globalization, and we can stand on

(41:42):
our own two feet. And if you look at his
various moves, it seems to be that he's what, say,
what he's setting up the United States for?

Speaker 10 (41:50):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (41:51):
Absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 16 (41:52):
You'll notice what's so different from what he's doing what
other his predecessors have done. He's not going through the UN,
he's not going through the IMP's not going through the WTO,
he's not going through the world. But he's not going
through any international mediary institution. He is dealing with nations
one on one, quite literally.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
In front of in the Oval office.

Speaker 16 (42:12):
One of our subscribers said, you know, would it be
cool for Trump to do fireside chats like FDR used
to do or something, and another one remarked, he already is.
It's called Zelenski's sitting in the other chair or rama
Fosa sitting in the other chair.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
Those are his fireside chats.

Speaker 16 (42:29):
He is dealing with nations bilaterally one by one, but
the two major ones, the two other polls in this
multipolar world, of course, is Russia and China.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
And this is great power politics. Again, there's no mediators
or anything like this.

Speaker 16 (42:45):
It's one on one but at the same time, and
you hit the nail on the head in this one.
He's also doing his best to pick off any kind
of allies that they might get in their.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
Sort of parallel world.

Speaker 16 (42:59):
They're parallel structure that's being formed in bricks, which is
basically a parallel g seven. About fifty percent of the
world's energies coming from bricks countries right now. One country
that was supposed to join was Saudi Arabia, But somehow
Trump was very effective in telling mohammedd and Salmon, Hey,
why don't we do business together. We're You're going to

(43:20):
be far more prosperous together with you having unlimited access
to the number one mark in the world than if
you're working with Russia.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And so many people were saying he did.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
It, and the media was criticizing him for why are
you going to Middle East? Why are you going to Saudis,
Why are you talking to the Kataris?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Why are you doing all this?

Speaker 8 (43:38):
Because they don't understand the moves that he is making,
because he's so far ahead of them on this chessboard
and they are totally still locked into this mindset of
the unipolar moment. By the way, you're going to love this.
I don't know if you caught this, but so I
went and I spoke in Poland.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I gave this speech.

Speaker 8 (43:57):
But a few weeks prior to me, they had sent
Obama over as well as Valerie Jarrett and whom abbot
in junior Soros. But do you know who else they
actually sent over with them? I kid you not. Francis
Fukuyama himself himself was actually on the ground, mister, the
end of history.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
The United States is won and the international work. Can
you believe it? Can you believe it?

Speaker 9 (44:20):
Also?

Speaker 16 (44:21):
The author of second thoughts he did right afterwards?

Speaker 9 (44:26):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 16 (44:27):
I mean, you couldn't have scripted that talk about the
Adams family of globalism.

Speaker 9 (44:31):
I mean, there you have, Wow.

Speaker 10 (44:34):
Dang dude.

Speaker 16 (44:35):
And it's so funny because the way I've heard the
term progressive realism used for the media. I love that
connection you make. Progressive realism is this notion that progressivism
is just it's the wave of the future. The arc
of history inevitably bends to liberal definitions of justice. So

(45:00):
so we in the media who operate by progressive realism.
All we have to do is expose how people like
Jack Posobic and Steve Bannon and so forth, how they're obscurant,
is how they're trying to stop history. That's all we
have to do. And we're just going to have this wonderful, happy,
cloppy consensus of progressive liberalism as far as and it

(45:20):
ends up.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
The working.

Speaker 16 (45:23):
Progressive realism is. I wants to get more Kuyama's thesis.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Precisely, I want to get more, But unfortunately we are
just about out of time. Where can people go to
find your long form unpacking of all of this, Oh.

Speaker 16 (45:36):
Just punch my name into either Rumble or YouTube Doctor
Steve Turley.

Speaker 9 (45:40):
You'll find my channels there.

Speaker 8 (45:42):
You'll find them there to get the books, a couple
of guitar videos too.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Every once in a while, you never know what you're
going to find them when.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
You google doctor Steve Turley, a problem I know all
too well.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Myself.

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