May 12, 2025 • 46 mins
Human Events on Real America's Voice
Segment A: The Historic Human Events Daily Trip to the Conclave
Segment B: The New Pope and the worldwide illegal migrant crisis
Segment C: Do American’s Vote on the Basis of Religion?
Segment D: Pope Francis made bad investments… and now the church is looking for America to bail them out
Segment E: Who Will Pres. Trump Deploy to Counter Senator Tillis?
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A commentator, international social media sensation and Fulmer Navy intelligence veteran.
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And the potential turning point in the war.
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In Ukraine, President Vladimir Zelenski says he's now prepared to
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after President Trump urged him to immediately accept the Putin
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Those talks are said to take.
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Place in Istanbul, Turkey, on Thursday. It will be the
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There'll be someplace in the Middle East, but I would.
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Fly there if I thought it would be helpful.
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Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of
Human Events Daily. We are here live, yes, in Washington, DC.
We are back from our international trip and today is
May twelfth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Anno domini. So yes, as you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Know, I'm sure you saw last week and throughout the weekend,
my brother and I as well as the Human Events team,
thanks to the great folks over Catholics for Catholics for
underwriting and the war room, we went to the papal
conclave and we went to report on there everything that
was happening inside behind the scenes, even all the way
up Kevin Psobek all the way up on the roof
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of the Vatican itself Saint Peter's Basilica as the new
poet emerged. And we're gonna have to get Kevin back
on the show here this week to really describe the
sites and sounds of it, because.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know, some connection issues.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
While we were there fifty thousand people in Saint Peter's
where you can imagine, the energy was off the charts.
But then the shock an American pope, someone who and
we've heard quite a bit from him as well as
his brother.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
By the way, I saw the brothers tweets.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Boy, I would love and I'm just going to say
it right now for Popo Leo's.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Brother, Lou Lou.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Human Events Daily would be more than happy to sponsor
a trip for you, all expenses paid, to fly to
Rome and spend some quality time with your little brother
and particularly have a conversation on where it is that
the people of Florida and the Catholics in America stand
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on our president and our Vice President JD. Vance, as
well as the issue of illegal immibration. Now, we understand,
of course that the new Pope is a believer in
the rule of law, and I certainly hope that that stands.
But what we've heard so much is that this is
a big play being pushed by the cardinals in Rome
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for what the big money in the United States, the
money that was cut off when Doge and the Trump
administration cut off Catholic charities from this huge pot of
taxpayer money because illegal immigration is big business. Open borders, inc.
Is exactly what's going on. And so the question is
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for the Vatican, which people need to understand, is broke
right now. They got a cash flow issue. Is that
what the new Pope is trying to turn back on
and will this be an etagonist for President Trump? All
this and more coming up today Human Events Daily, and
we have Roger swe One to understand what America First
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truly means.
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Speaker 3 (06:58):
Roger, how are you?
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Great to be with you and great to see you
back home safe from the conclave and from.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Thank you, Roger.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Roger, I know you've attended, Roger, I know you've attended
a number of conventions.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Have you ever attended a conclave before?
Speaker 8 (07:15):
I can't say I.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
Have, And I must say that the outcome of this
conclave was somewhat surprising. Now, when you understand that eighty
percent of the cardinals who had the ability to vote
were handpicked by Oh Francis, the outcome, meaning the conclave
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producing a moderate to progressive vope, is really not surprising.
I would have preferred Cardinal Erdo or Cardinal Sarah. Those
were my emotional favorites. But as you know, I wrote
a couple of long pieces, came on your show, did
an in depth analysis kind of the horse race for Pope.
(08:00):
But I have to admit that Robert Provos now Pope Leo,
was not on my list.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
He is clearly very solid on some of the Church's
traditional positions. For example, he doesn't buy into any of
this gender nonsense. He's solid on the right to life,
on the priesthood to continue to be maintained for men.
But I don't like the fact that he is not
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speaking from the throne of Peter, but just speaking in
a pastoral sense. He's opposed President Trump and Vice President
vance the very important issue of illegal immigrants. He seems
to favor an open borders policy, which is hard to
reconcile with the fact that, of course the Vatican, where
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he is going to live and work, has very high
walls in very tight security.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
So it's hard to reconcile those two.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, certainly security was paramount when my brother and I
were there, as well as the Human Events team producer
Russ came out from Phoenix there in Saint Peter's Square,
and one of the things that I think that you know,
we've learned just from being on the ground and pulling
some sources together, was one of the big rumors going
around was.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
This question of Cardinal Parolyn.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So Cardinal Perolyn, the Secretary State of the Vatican, actually
has to be seen whether or not he'll be staying
on in that capacity, was widely seen as the front
runner by the media and many others going into the conclave.
Yet what we are being told, and again I have
this from a source in the Vatican, that once the
conclave doors were closed, that Perolin immediately began championing the
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candidacy of pre vos that he knew he wouldn't have
the votes. He knew that he was too publicly associated
with Francis who went over the Conservatives, and so almost
immediately once they realized he didn't have the votes, they
may have done one test ballot and then took one vote,
because remember, Roger, this was only the fourth round of ballots,
which is very fast, I believe fast. When when that
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puff of whitespoke went up on day two, only twenty
four hours after the opening of the conclave, the entire
city of Rome was rushing to the square.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No one could believe that it was picked so quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And from what I'm hearing on the inside is that
it was the liberal progressive Carolin pushing for cardinal prevosts.
And you mentioned, of course the issue of the legal immigration,
and I just go back to saying that this has
been a huge revenue driver for the Vatican and so
many others through groups like Catholic charities and others, because
while they get the sign ups in Latin America and
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in Africa, when it comes to the money which is
currently going into those people say, oh, the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Is so rich, well yes, and no.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's still They're still derived off of revenue from donors
and parishioners going to church.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It has been running low in past few years.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They have huge cashflow issues that they needed the CCP
deal to bail them out a couple of years back
under Francis McCarrick, the now disgraced former Cardinal McCarrick, and
of course Carolyn himself, and so a lot of those
money issues could be one of the reasons that they
wanted number one, turn on the illegal immigration revenue pipeline
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yet again. And number two, she was an American who
can directly go for that big American money jack.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
I think frankly, Cardinal Perlin's industy was damaged by some
of these financial irregularities that were raised very definitely exactly
the right time by an American Bishop of Brigando at
a very key time.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
And I agree with.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
You, I think this is an appeal for money in
the meantime. Two things I found extraordinarily amusing the way
some Catholics flipped out when President Trump put out a
a picture of himself in papal investments.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Some people can't take a joke.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
Some people, I think might have been waiting for orange
smoke to come from the Sistine Chapel. Tomp is not
a Catholic. It was just humor, but some people took
it very very cease. Well, I'm offended. Well, I'm offended
by the fact that that Pope Francis accommodated the Chinese Communists,
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basically agreed to let them Vito who could be a
bishop in China, because accommodation with evil Jack is evil.
I'm offended by the fact that Pope Francis brought Cardo Mcarick,
who was a vicious pedophile, out of retirement, gave him
a position as a key advisor inside the Vatican. That
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offended me. Now you know, people need to lighten up
in this case. I am also amused by the fact
that the Pope's brother, Lou appears to not only be maga,
not only be a supporter of President Trump and a
harsh critic of Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, but he
also seems to be fully awake on the question of
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Richard M.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Nixon in Watergate.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
He reposted a great meme in which someone pointed out
the Nixon only erased at thirteen minute tape while Hillary
Clinton erased thirty three thousand classified emails. She basically destroyed
them with beach flit and a hammer when they were
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under subpoena. So he's red pilled on the question of
Nixon and Watergate as well.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
On that very amusing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Roger.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I saw that post and more, and that's the why
I've said here at Human Events Daily, we would be
more than happy if mister Privos is interested to sponsor
an all expenses paid trip for him to travel to
Vatican City to Saint Peter's to meet his brother and
sit down with him and don't just chat on a
few of these issues. We're not going to tell him
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what to do, but I certainly think that's something that
Human Events Daily would be more than happy to do.
And by the way, mister Prevos, if you're watching, more
than happy to have you on. I understand you've been
doing quite a bit of media. We'd love to have
you here on the program as well. This is Jack Besovich.
You're on with Human Events Daily. We have Roger Stone
(14:25):
with us for the program today the Salem Radio Network
in Real America's Voice'd be right back quick break.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bads. President Trump is out with an executive order
that's slated to cut prescription drug prices here in the
United States by between thirty and eighty percent. The Commander
in Chief says drugmakers have a thirty day deadline to
lower prices or face new limits. In fact, the President
goes on to say, drug prices here are sometimes five
(15:29):
to ten times more expensive than in other countries for
the same drug manufactured at the exact same time, in
the very same plan and by the same company. He
also blames other countries, specifically the European Union, for forcing
drug companies to raise prices on drugs that are sold
here in the US.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
But starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize
the healthcare of foreign countries, which is what we were doing.
We were subsidizing others healthcare countries where they paid their
small fraction of what for the same drug that what
we pay many many times more for. And we're no
longer tolerate profiteering and price gouging from big pharma.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Under the President's order, a quote most Favored Nations policies
being implemented. It allows the United States to pay the
same price as the nation that pays the lowest price
for a specific drug.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Anywhere in the world.
Speaker 10 (16:26):
Formerly Hamas held American Israeli aid on. Alexander is coming home.
The Israeli military says he's with the Red Cross after
just being released earlier today.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
His mother was.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Flown into the war zone in order to greet her
son as he was freed. The eighteen year old grew
up in New Jersey and is said to be the
last living American hostage in Gaza. He's being released as
part of efforts to establish a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas,
as well as reopened crossings in Gaza and resume the
delivery of aid. President Trump says, quote, Hopefully this is
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the first of the final steps necessary to end this
brutal conflict. I look very much forward to that day
of celebration. The Trump administration is describing the release as
a show of goodwill from Hamas towards President Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Alexander's released.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
By the way, it comes just days before President Trump
heads to the Middle East to meet with officials in
Saudi Arabia. Cutter in the United.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Today, You know that you talk about influencers.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
These are influencers and their friends of mine.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Jack vic.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All Right, Jack Pizoviek.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
We're back live here, Human Events Daily, Rillermerker's Voice, sail
And Radio Network, bringing in our three of the Charlie
Kirk Audience.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We're on with Roger Stone.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Roger, when we look at the fact that we had
the first American pope now and the media has been
really playing at my comments where I said, this is
clearly a response to Trump, and I think that's probably
the samest way to put it.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I wasn't necessarily an.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Argument one way or the other, but I think it's
my analysis of the situation. Perhaps perhaps it was the
meme that made its way around the conclave that swung
their votes towards the American But you know, when it
really comes down to this, I do think that the progressives.
My concerns that the progressives will want to use this
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pope and the tweets that we've already seen being very
critical of jd Vance, President Bukel and L Salvador and
President Trump on the issue of deportation and illegal immigration,
to use this as potentially a wedge to break up
the huge Catholic voting block that swung President Trump in
swung for President Trump brought him into office across the
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rust Belt, and by the way, something that I'm sure
Catholic convert jd Vance, our vice president would want to
use should he run, as I think is widely expected
for President himself in his own right. As President Trump
is well is likely term limited to right now. So Roger,
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how should the president manage his relations with the Holy
see here?
Speaker 9 (19:11):
First of all, I think people need to see this
in some historical perspective. It's important to recognize that working class,
ethnic Catholic votes are the bedrock of every Republican presidential
victory since nineteen sixty eight. When those Catholic voters vote
for the Republican nominee as they did for Nixon, as
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they did for Reagan, as they did.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
For Trump, we win. When we lose those voters, we lose.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
The Pope is going to have a very hard time
convincing working class Catholic voters in the United States that
open borders are a good idea, that high taxes are
a good idea, that profagate federal spending is a good idea.
So I think it all honesty. Catholics understand the difference
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between when the Pope speaks at castor speaks to matters
of faith and church doctrine, and when the Pope expresses
what are in fact, really in essence political opinions, it
is not going to change the views of I think
a majority of non progressive, working class, more conservative Catholics
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because the Pope thinks that illegal immigration is a great idea.
If I were the Pope, I'd be more concerned about
what the president thinks. Then the president should be concerned
about what the Pope thinks in terms of the way
it impacts American voters.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And this is a huge, huge point because, as I
said before, the antagonism towards the president.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Which we saw, we clearly saw from Pope Francis.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you know, I know there's a lot of Catholics
out there who who try to say, oh, Jack, you know,
I know political speech. When I see political speech, I
kind of do it for a living. And so he
was obviously playing politics with President Trump. And now certainly
there are a number of other issues where he stood
with Catholic orthodoxy, which I absolutely do support, and I've
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seen that Pope Leo the fourteenth has as well. But Roger,
that really is the danger then, because the media would
love for the new President to get into this feud
with the new pope when the two men, as far
as they know, have never even spoken.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
But Jack, the truth is, I don't think Americans vote
on the basis of religion in all honesty, and there are,
for example, obviously there are some extremely liberal progressive Catholics,
But beyond that, I honestly don't think that religious issues
are going to divide those voters who are pro life are.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Going to continue to support Donald Trump, for example.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Beyond that, it's good progressivism is going to be very
tough self for this pope, and for people to think
that the Pope is viewed as a political figure in
this country, he's not. If he had then, then most
than the huge incursions among Catholics that Trump made in
the last two elections, last three elections, really I would
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never have taken place. So even with Pope Francis attacking
the President, it did not impact the Catholic vote here
in the United States in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
It didn't work.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Why because you cannot convince any voter, any sane voter,
that having you know, illegal immigrants dangerous in some cases
actually members of gangs, is a good public policy idea.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So this idea is certainly not Roger Weavickers as a
credit break quick break, and I'd love to hold you
over on that. By the way, MS thirteen, I would
point out it is not only a dangerous transnational gang,
they are a Satanic gang. They are a group that
actually performs blood rituals on victims, sometimes very young victims,
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in worship and service of Satan.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Doctor Soovich will be.
Speaker 10 (23:16):
Right back, Terrenx Bates here with your real America's Voice news. Great,
(23:40):
thanks so much for being here with us. We are
continuing to get new details about the new trade deal
between the Trump administration and China. American Trade Representative Jamison Greer,
who joined Treasury Secretary Scott Bestent for the negotiations with
Chinese with the Chinese delegation over the weekend, says the
deal will help reduce the one point two trillion dollar
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US global goods trade deficit. We now also know the
US will drop its tariffs on most Chinese goods to
thirty percent, which is a one hundred and fifteen percent decline.
China is dropping its tariffs on American goods by the
same amount, which means US products entering China will be
taxed at ten percent. However, President Trump believes the most
significant part of this agreement is that China is opening
(24:24):
up to American companies.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
We opened up our country to China. They we don't
come in to have very few restrictions, and they didn't
open their country to us. Never made sense to me.
It's not fair, and they've agreed to open China.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Fully.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Open China would be I think it would be fantastic
for our businesses if we could go in and compete
and compete with China. It would be a lot of
jobs for China. It would be I think at a
time where they can frankly use the jobs.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
And In other headlines this morning, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy
says flights could be disrupted across the country thanks to
air traffic control tech issues like the one that's been
affecting flights in Newark's Liberty International Airport. While Secretary Duffy
plans to meet with officials from major airlines this week
to discuss reducing flights at Newark, he's also warning that
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airports could face similar disruptions as we head into the
summer travel season. At issue is an air traffic control
facility that guides planes at Newark.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Outages have been happening since August.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
Most recently, that system had a brief radar outage on Friday.
Another air traffic equipment outage forced a forty five minute
or so groundstop in Newark on Sunday. A lot of
that was equipment related because there's just so much antiquated equipment.
Duffy claims that it is safe to fly out of
Newark and elsewhere. Though. That's a great check of your headline.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Hey Jack, where's Jack?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Where's Jack Worthy? Jack? I want to see you.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Great job, Jack, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
What the job you do?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
You know, we have an incredible thing.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
We're always talking about the fake.
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News of the band, but we have guys, and these.
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Are the guys you're forgetting bullishes.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Team Jack Prosobik.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
We are back live Human Events Daily, Washington, d c Real,
Marcus Voice and the Salem Radio Network. We're on with
veteran political strategist Roger Stone and we're walking through some
of the political angles visa VI President Trump, jd Vance,
Catholic convert to many believe may run for president in
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short order, by the way, and the appointment of the
new Pope, Pope Leo the fourteenth. You know, Roger, when
I also look on the question of illegal immigration, I
think this is something where a lot of people get
wrapped up in these ideas where they say, oh, it's
you know, it's it's people are just evil, They're doing
this because of greed, et cetera. Yes, but also this
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is a big business. It's a huge business. And by
the way, Catholic charities and Lutherans and there are Jewish
organizations and many other organizations out there using the name
the good name by the way of religion to launder
in money from the taxpayer that then goes into their
pockets and then would go off to others to be
able to get this bigot turned back on. That's something
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that a lot of people don't want to actually talk about,
but is something that President Trump and our new Secretary
of Homeland Security, Christine Noum, have absolutely been targeting. Roger,
do you agree with my assessment that there's a financial
element to all of this, Jack.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I think the American people, oh a great jet of
gratitude to Elon Musk and his DOGE operation for exposing this.
So yes, illegal immigration is is a big multi million,
if not billion dollar business. Now you add in the cartels.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
And the role that they have played.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Look, I think the President should meet with the new
Pope as soon as is feasible, should certainly invite him
for a sit down and to begin to perhaps explain
to him the facts about illegal immigration and the great
danger of these satanic, violent criminal gangs. Instead of the
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Pope persuading the president, perhaps the President can persuade the Pope. These,
of course, are not matters of the church. These are
pastoral matters that Francis spoke out about. He seemed to
have a very very leftist political agenda.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
We agree he was good on some.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Fundamental moral issues, like the entire gender agenda, for example,
and he held the line as far as being pro life.
His view of Uza gays that gays who will welcome
the church they could be blessed, hate the sin, not
the sinner.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I even agree with that. But when he got.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Into matters of American politics, like illegal immigration, for example,
or accommodation with the evil of Chinese communism, where in
all honesty, Pope Francis really let the Chinese communists dictate
who could be a bishop, and I believe a priest
in China, I think he got outside of his appropriate
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area in all honesty.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, and Roger, there's other information, by the way, specifically
where the US, the Vatican just recently was seeking US assistance,
and people really need to hear about this. Just a
couple of years back, where there was the Vatican bank scandal,
and what was the Vatican bank scandal directly associated with
(30:02):
it was real estate, it was money in uh, it
was money throughout Italy, and in some cases there.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Was even money by the way in.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Peru, Peru, which is exactly where the new pope hails from,
looking for a billion dollars for this financial scandal where
they want this to come in.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And so look, as a Catholic, of course I pray
for the pope.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I am certainly sure that all Catholics pray for the pope,
and I would encourage all Catholics to pray for the pope.
But in fact there was an organization and trying to
pull their name up pure Catholic herald has This was
news just about.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
A month ago when JD.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Vans visited the Vatican and Cardinal Parolin was directly associated
with it. Financial crimes committed by a powerful Catholic entity
called Soldatium christane Vite, which was SCV, which was based
in Peru. Fact, there were there were huge allegations of
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financial scandals. So the question, of course is was was
this this prevost was you know, as a bishop, a
very high level bishop and cardinal out of out of Peru.
The question is was he associated with this? Is he
investigating this? Clearly there's a lot of questions going on here.
But at the end of the at the end of
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the barrel, is this The Vatican is not exactly as rich,
or at least as cash heavy as a lot of
people think.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Isn't that right?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Roger, I think, what do you mean to ask Jack
is what did Pope Leo know and when did he
know it?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
That's surcisely what I was.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I was going to go there. I didn't go there,
but you went. But of course Roger Stone will go there.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
Look, it also appears, just based on my own reading,
that the Pope, the previous pope and his advisors made
a number of of bad investment into decisions which further
weaken the financial standing of the Church. Now I think
the Church is rich, but I also think that they're
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very rich, but they may not be that liquid. I
think there are a lot of real estate hopels for people,
but I think they have liquidity problems. And if they're
looking for the United States to bail them out, well
they're looking in the wrong place, because these days we're
putting America first. I don't know about you, Jack, but
I'm not tired of winning yet. But this has been incredible.
(32:31):
Seventy two hours, we have a trade deal with the Chinese,
at least the framework of one. Scott Bessen, I think,
one of the presidents very best appointees, perhaps the most
brilliant Secretary of the Treasury.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Since Alexandra Hamilton.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
We have a ceasefire broker by the United States between
India and Pakistan.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
We have a new deal to cut.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
The price of prescription drums, which I think is going
to be extraordinarily popular with the American people.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
We have Robert F.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Kennedy Junior, not only looking into geo engineering also known
as chemtrails, but moving aggressively to outlaw certain very dangerous
additives in our food and the food that we're being sold.
So the President is he is making progress on all fronts,
(33:26):
but he's doing so by putting America first instead of
putting America last. If I again, the Pope should be
more concerned about where he stands with the President than
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, Roger, when we see from the UK to China
to now going to the Middle East, and certainly this
highlights the role of Saudi Arabia and as a real
broker in the world as we shift the access of
the world. Clearly, think from anyone's who's being honest, the
(34:02):
geopolitical access the world is shifting from a unipolar world
to a multi polar world. Certainly China as part of that,
certainly India, Russia, Europe, the United States. We are no
longer the sole superpower the UNI global moments.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
The unipolar movement.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Is over, and Saudi Arabia in just a work of fate,
and thanks to the power of the Petro dollar, really
is kind of the center of many of these poles
as well, by the way many of them use their
hair counterpart in the Gulf Iran. And there's a reason
that a world that runs off of oil would of
(34:42):
course be so focused on these two powers.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Roger, what do.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You expect out of President Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Well, at first of all, I think he's great.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
He is resisting the warhawks in his own administration who
are telling him that he needs to strike Iran. He
and the Vice President and his negotiators, including Marco Rubio,
who I think is really doing a phenomenally good job,
have signaled that we are prepared to talk to the
(35:13):
Iranians about their having some nuclear program, but not one
that includes weaponization, not one that includes the ability to
create nuclear weapons. This is a step in the right
direction for those who think that some kind of strike
on Iran. Don't understand that the Iranians would immediately shut
(35:34):
down the strait of harm moves, that you'd have an
immediate spike in world fuel prices, including here in the
United States.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
They're unrealistic about the.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Implications of an immediate strike. We seem to be moving
away from Israel in that regard. I think that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Jack Well Roger, and this is something where people need
to understand that a lot of Middle East politics, and
I've said this for so long, it's certainly something I
gleaned during my time as an intelligence officer. A lot
of the Middle East politics and the shifting geopolitical tectonic
plates of that part of the world, which really is
a place where all of these polls kind of come together.
(36:16):
It can be boiled down to the sides that support
Saudi and the Arab side, and those who support Iran
and the Shia side, so the Sunnis and the Shias,
and it really does boil down to the Saudis versus
the Persians. And of course this is a situation where
President Trump, I think rightly understands that rather than back
(36:39):
one side in the war, the better goal for am
and launching a new war, the better goal for America
would be to seek a peace deal while maintaining the
security and stability of the region.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Yeah, I think that is absolutely true. On the other hand,
you have to this could be a very tough.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Negotiation with the Arabians. When we.
Speaker 9 (37:04):
Unfortunately unwisely, when Joe Biden ended the sanctions program and
we handed over one hundred and ninety billion dollars to
a rogue regime, then use that money to help the people.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
For example, the cost of food.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
Right now in Iran is off the charts. They used
it to finance and underwrite terrorism. Moss As Bola, making
the attack on Israel October seventh entirely possible.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
So these people, all.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
They really have is their nuclear program. They're not going
to give it up easily. I mean their nuclear weapons
program and not going to give it up easy. I
think they are playing for a time, but they're with
a master negotiator. As he's already demonstrated in the situation
with Russia and Ukraine, he does have infinite patients. But
(38:00):
finally it appears that he's going to get the Ukrainians
in the Russians to the table.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
I give Steve.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Winkoff perhaps perhaps he mentioned earlier today that while he's
in the neighborhood for at the same time period, perhaps
he'll make a stop himself in Istanbul. Roger, can we
hold you for one more segment. We've got one more
segment here on Human Events Daily. Sure, okay, we're right
back with Rogerstone. You're listening to Jack Posobic watching Real
(38:29):
America's Voice and Salem Radio Network quick break right back.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Jack is.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Everybody's talking about it. You'll get it from the beginning
of this, and we're going to.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
I think a lot of MAGA people see that as
something of a betrayal.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I just want to play. This is Jack Pasobic.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
He's actually in at the Vatican right now covering this
for some right wing outlets. He's a very loud voice
and conservative spheres. He's traveled with the Defense Secretary and
other other folks around President Trump.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And here's what he had to say. I'm not going
to mince words. This is not the election the conservatives wanted.
God Save the Church.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Will this pope continue to antagonize President Trump and jd
vance the choice of an American pope. It is clearly
a reaction to President Trump, and I honestly can't see
this read in almost any other light a reaction to Trump.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well, a couple things. Number One, I agree with the President.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
I think it's amazing that we have an American pope.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human
events with Jack Bosobic.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
All right, Jack, with SOBEC and we're back.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Final segment here, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, our
three Charlie Kirk. We're on with veteran political strategist Rogerstone. Roger,
one of the things that happened while I was away
at the conclave was the switching out and appointment that
happened here in Washington, d C. In the district, Ed
(40:51):
Martin rolled over to the DOJ Weaponization Task Force.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And the appointment of Judge Janine Janin Piro.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Don't know if that's a demotion judged to attorney, but
she'll now be the US attorney for Washington DC. All
of this because of squishy moderate Republican snakes in the
United States.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Senate Roger, I've got to get your take on it, Jack.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
I think there's a classic example. Be careful what you
wish for the left, the deep state. They were apoplectic
about the appointment of Ed Martin, a straight shooter. Under
Ed Martin is the US attorney, it's just the interim
US attorney in DC. Violent crime the district Columbia dropped
twenty five percent and he wasn't even on the job
(41:39):
six months. But you're right, his nomination was torpedoed by
Senator Tom Tillis, the Rhino from North Carolina. Now Tillis
is up for reelection in twenty twenty six. He's actually
announced his candidacy for reelection. Just as a matter of
historical precedent, it is absolutely essential that President Trump recruit
(42:04):
and support a challenger to Tillis, because he must show
all the other Republican senators in the caucus that those
who don't support the party leader, who don't support the
party's agenda, will be challenged. A source told me Jack
that Senator Tillis actually told someone that in his opinion,
(42:30):
that he would vote for Ed Martin for any other
Department of Justice position, but he could not vote for
Martin to be the US Attorney for DC because he
disagreed with Martin's decisions regarding the January sixth victims. Also
was told that Tillis told someone that actually Babbitt deserved
(42:51):
what she got, that she had it coming. That is
unacceptable and I frankly think Tillis must face a trial.
I've known Judge Jinny and Piro for well over twenty
five years. She was a very tough prosecutor. She was
the Westchester County District Attorney. She really specialized or focused
(43:14):
very specifically on crimes against children and domestic crimes, domestic violence,
domestic battery. She was a tough prosecutor. At this point
in her career, she doesn't have to seek approval of anyone.
She has no political aspirations. I think this was an
genius choice by the President to replace Ed Martin, and
(43:36):
if they thought they were going to get a break
those in the deep state worried about the investigation of weaponization,
the Russian collusion hoax, the Ukrainian collusion hoax, the truth
about January sixth, I think they are sadly mistaken.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
Judge Bureau is going to be just as tough as.
Speaker 9 (43:56):
Ed Martin would have been, and Martin now goes to
a much broader date as both heading a task force
inside the DOJ on political weaponization of our criminal justice system,
but also as a pardon attorney, which I think is
very good news as well.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well, Roger, I think it's fantastic news. You know, this
is something that's great. Ed Martin just someone who has
always been absolutely out there, and he was the right
hand man of Phylish Laughley for so many years, someone who,
by the way, I got to meet when I was
an up and coming in you know, conservative politics, when
I was still in college, along with David Harrowitz and
and Coulter and so many other injury Breitbart who are
(44:39):
around kind of in the mix at that time. And
Ed Martin comes out of that pedigree, and he's someone
who clearly understands exactly what we're up against, and that,
of course is the reason so many of these people
can't stand him. And I've already been getting hit up
by reporters all week and oh well, if you support
a you know, a primary to Tom Tillis, are you
going to get someone worse?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Going to get this or John Corning over in Texas.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think what we're going to get is a real Republican,
someone that the people actually deserve to have representing them. Roger,
Where can people go to find you and get more
of your work?
Speaker 9 (45:14):
People can go to stone Zone dot com, stone Zone
dot com and of course every weekday evening at eight
pm Eastern or WABC Radio dot com WBC Radio dot com,
where we do an hour on politics in the stone Zone.
So check us out either one of those two places, folks.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Rogerstone is everywhere on the media.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Fortunately my feet, we're back home here in the United
States of America, the greatest country on God's Green Earth.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
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Speaker 3 (02:29):
Anno domini. So yes, as you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Know, I'm sure you saw last week and throughout the weekend,
my brother and I as well as the Human Events team,
thanks to the great folks over Catholics for Catholics for
underwriting and the war room, we went to the papal
conclave and we went to report on there everything that
was happening inside behind the scenes, even all the way
up Kevin Psobek all the way up on the roof
(02:54):
of the Vatican itself Saint Peter's Basilica as the new
poet emerged. And we're gonna have to get Kevin back
on the show here this week to really describe the
sites and sounds of it, because.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know, some connection issues.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
While we were there fifty thousand people in Saint Peter's
where you can imagine, the energy was off the charts.
But then the shock an American pope, someone who and
we've heard quite a bit from him as well as
his brother.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
By the way, I saw the brothers tweets.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Boy, I would love and I'm just going to say
it right now for Popo Leo's.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Brother, Lou Lou.
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on our president and our Vice President JD. Vance, as
well as the issue of illegal immibration. Now, we understand,
of course that the new Pope is a believer in
the rule of law, and I certainly hope that that stands.
But what we've heard so much is that this is
a big play being pushed by the cardinals in Rome
(04:13):
for what the big money in the United States, the
money that was cut off when Doge and the Trump
administration cut off Catholic charities from this huge pot of
taxpayer money because illegal immigration is big business. Open borders, inc.
Is exactly what's going on. And so the question is
(04:36):
for the Vatican, which people need to understand, is broke
right now. They got a cash flow issue. Is that
what the new Pope is trying to turn back on
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Speaker 3 (06:58):
Roger, how are you?
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Great to be with you and great to see you
back home safe from the conclave and from.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Thank you, Roger.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Roger, I know you've attended, Roger, I know you've attended
a number of conventions.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Have you ever attended a conclave before?
Speaker 8 (07:15):
I can't say I.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
Have, And I must say that the outcome of this
conclave was somewhat surprising. Now, when you understand that eighty
percent of the cardinals who had the ability to vote
were handpicked by Oh Francis, the outcome, meaning the conclave
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producing a moderate to progressive vope, is really not surprising.
I would have preferred Cardinal Erdo or Cardinal Sarah. Those
were my emotional favorites. But as you know, I wrote
a couple of long pieces, came on your show, did
an in depth analysis kind of the horse race for Pope.
(08:00):
But I have to admit that Robert Provos now Pope Leo,
was not on my list.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
He is clearly very solid on some of the Church's
traditional positions. For example, he doesn't buy into any of
this gender nonsense. He's solid on the right to life,
on the priesthood to continue to be maintained for men.
But I don't like the fact that he is not
(08:29):
speaking from the throne of Peter, but just speaking in
a pastoral sense. He's opposed President Trump and Vice President
vance the very important issue of illegal immigrants. He seems
to favor an open borders policy, which is hard to
reconcile with the fact that, of course the Vatican, where
(08:49):
he is going to live and work, has very high
walls in very tight security.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
So it's hard to reconcile those two.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, certainly security was paramount when my brother and I
were there, as well as the Human Events team producer
Russ came out from Phoenix there in Saint Peter's Square,
and one of the things that I think that you know,
we've learned just from being on the ground and pulling
some sources together, was one of the big rumors going
around was.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
This question of Cardinal Parolyn.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So Cardinal Perolyn, the Secretary State of the Vatican, actually
has to be seen whether or not he'll be staying
on in that capacity, was widely seen as the front
runner by the media and many others going into the conclave.
Yet what we are being told, and again I have
this from a source in the Vatican, that once the
conclave doors were closed, that Perolin immediately began championing the
(09:45):
candidacy of pre vos that he knew he wouldn't have
the votes. He knew that he was too publicly associated
with Francis who went over the Conservatives, and so almost
immediately once they realized he didn't have the votes, they
may have done one test ballot and then took one vote,
because remember, Roger, this was only the fourth round of ballots,
which is very fast, I believe fast. When when that
(10:08):
puff of whitespoke went up on day two, only twenty
four hours after the opening of the conclave, the entire
city of Rome was rushing to the square.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No one could believe that it was picked so quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And from what I'm hearing on the inside is that
it was the liberal progressive Carolin pushing for cardinal prevosts.
And you mentioned, of course the issue of the legal immigration,
and I just go back to saying that this has
been a huge revenue driver for the Vatican and so
many others through groups like Catholic charities and others, because
while they get the sign ups in Latin America and
(10:42):
in Africa, when it comes to the money which is
currently going into those people say, oh, the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Is so rich, well yes, and no.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's still They're still derived off of revenue from donors
and parishioners going to church.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It has been running low in past few years.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They have huge cashflow issues that they needed the CCP
deal to bail them out a couple of years back
under Francis McCarrick, the now disgraced former Cardinal McCarrick, and
of course Carolyn himself, and so a lot of those
money issues could be one of the reasons that they
wanted number one, turn on the illegal immigration revenue pipeline
(11:19):
yet again. And number two, she was an American who
can directly go for that big American money jack.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
I think frankly, Cardinal Perlin's industy was damaged by some
of these financial irregularities that were raised very definitely exactly
the right time by an American Bishop of Brigando at
a very key time.
Speaker 8 (11:48):
And I agree with.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
You, I think this is an appeal for money in
the meantime. Two things I found extraordinarily amusing the way
some Catholics flipped out when President Trump put out a
a picture of himself in papal investments.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Some people can't take a joke.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
Some people, I think might have been waiting for orange
smoke to come from the Sistine Chapel. Tomp is not
a Catholic. It was just humor, but some people took
it very very cease. Well, I'm offended. Well, I'm offended
by the fact that that Pope Francis accommodated the Chinese Communists,
(12:28):
basically agreed to let them Vito who could be a
bishop in China, because accommodation with evil Jack is evil.
I'm offended by the fact that Pope Francis brought Cardo Mcarick,
who was a vicious pedophile, out of retirement, gave him
a position as a key advisor inside the Vatican. That
(12:50):
offended me. Now you know, people need to lighten up
in this case. I am also amused by the fact
that the Pope's brother, Lou appears to not only be maga,
not only be a supporter of President Trump and a
harsh critic of Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, but he
also seems to be fully awake on the question of
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Richard M.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Nixon in Watergate.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
He reposted a great meme in which someone pointed out
the Nixon only erased at thirteen minute tape while Hillary
Clinton erased thirty three thousand classified emails. She basically destroyed
them with beach flit and a hammer when they were
(13:35):
under subpoena. So he's red pilled on the question of
Nixon and Watergate as well.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
On that very amusing.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Roger.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I saw that post and more, and that's the why
I've said here at Human Events Daily, we would be
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an all expenses paid trip for him to travel to
Vatican City to Saint Peter's to meet his brother and
sit down with him and don't just chat on a
few of these issues. We're not going to tell him
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what to do, but I certainly think that's something that
Human Events Daily would be more than happy to do.
And by the way, mister Prevos, if you're watching, more
than happy to have you on. I understand you've been
doing quite a bit of media. We'd love to have
you here on the program as well. This is Jack Besovich.
You're on with Human Events Daily. We have Roger Stone
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with us for the program today the Salem Radio Network
in Real America's Voice'd be right back quick break.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bads. President Trump is out with an executive order
that's slated to cut prescription drug prices here in the
United States by between thirty and eighty percent. The Commander
in Chief says drugmakers have a thirty day deadline to
lower prices or face new limits. In fact, the President
goes on to say, drug prices here are sometimes five
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to ten times more expensive than in other countries for
the same drug manufactured at the exact same time, in
the very same plan and by the same company. He
also blames other countries, specifically the European Union, for forcing
drug companies to raise prices on drugs that are sold
here in the US.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
But starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize
the healthcare of foreign countries, which is what we were doing.
We were subsidizing others healthcare countries where they paid their
small fraction of what for the same drug that what
we pay many many times more for. And we're no
longer tolerate profiteering and price gouging from big pharma.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
Under the President's order, a quote most Favored Nations policies
being implemented. It allows the United States to pay the
same price as the nation that pays the lowest price
for a specific drug.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Anywhere in the world.
Speaker 10 (16:26):
Formerly Hamas held American Israeli aid on. Alexander is coming home.
The Israeli military says he's with the Red Cross after
just being released earlier today.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
His mother was.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Flown into the war zone in order to greet her
son as he was freed. The eighteen year old grew
up in New Jersey and is said to be the
last living American hostage in Gaza. He's being released as
part of efforts to establish a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas,
as well as reopened crossings in Gaza and resume the
delivery of aid. President Trump says, quote, Hopefully this is
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the first of the final steps necessary to end this
brutal conflict. I look very much forward to that day
of celebration. The Trump administration is describing the release as
a show of goodwill from Hamas towards President Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Alexander's released.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
By the way, it comes just days before President Trump
heads to the Middle East to meet with officials in
Saudi Arabia. Cutter in the United.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Today, You know that you talk about influencers.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
These are influencers and their friends of mine.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Jack vic.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All Right, Jack Pizoviek.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
We're back live here, Human Events Daily, Rillermerker's Voice, sail
And Radio Network, bringing in our three of the Charlie
Kirk Audience.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We're on with Roger Stone.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Roger, when we look at the fact that we had
the first American pope now and the media has been
really playing at my comments where I said, this is
clearly a response to Trump, and I think that's probably
the samest way to put it.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I wasn't necessarily an.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Argument one way or the other, but I think it's
my analysis of the situation. Perhaps perhaps it was the
meme that made its way around the conclave that swung
their votes towards the American But you know, when it
really comes down to this, I do think that the progressives.
My concerns that the progressives will want to use this
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pope and the tweets that we've already seen being very
critical of jd Vance, President Bukel and L Salvador and
President Trump on the issue of deportation and illegal immigration,
to use this as potentially a wedge to break up
the huge Catholic voting block that swung President Trump in
swung for President Trump brought him into office across the
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rust Belt, and by the way, something that I'm sure
Catholic convert jd Vance, our vice president would want to
use should he run, as I think is widely expected
for President himself in his own right. As President Trump
is well is likely term limited to right now. So Roger,
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how should the president manage his relations with the Holy
see here?
Speaker 9 (19:11):
First of all, I think people need to see this
in some historical perspective. It's important to recognize that working class,
ethnic Catholic votes are the bedrock of every Republican presidential
victory since nineteen sixty eight. When those Catholic voters vote
for the Republican nominee as they did for Nixon, as
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they did for Reagan, as they did.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
For Trump, we win. When we lose those voters, we lose.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
The Pope is going to have a very hard time
convincing working class Catholic voters in the United States that
open borders are a good idea, that high taxes are
a good idea, that profagate federal spending is a good idea.
So I think it all honesty. Catholics understand the difference
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between when the Pope speaks at castor speaks to matters
of faith and church doctrine, and when the Pope expresses
what are in fact, really in essence political opinions, it
is not going to change the views of I think
a majority of non progressive, working class, more conservative Catholics
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because the Pope thinks that illegal immigration is a great idea.
If I were the Pope, I'd be more concerned about
what the president thinks. Then the president should be concerned
about what the Pope thinks in terms of the way
it impacts American voters.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And this is a huge, huge point because, as I
said before, the antagonism towards the president.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Which we saw, we clearly saw from Pope Francis.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you know, I know there's a lot of Catholics
out there who who try to say, oh, Jack, you know,
I know political speech. When I see political speech, I
kind of do it for a living. And so he
was obviously playing politics with President Trump. And now certainly
there are a number of other issues where he stood
with Catholic orthodoxy, which I absolutely do support, and I've
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seen that Pope Leo the fourteenth has as well. But Roger,
that really is the danger then, because the media would
love for the new President to get into this feud
with the new pope when the two men, as far
as they know, have never even spoken.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
But Jack, the truth is, I don't think Americans vote
on the basis of religion in all honesty, and there are,
for example, obviously there are some extremely liberal progressive Catholics,
But beyond that, I honestly don't think that religious issues
are going to divide those voters who are pro life are.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Going to continue to support Donald Trump, for example.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Beyond that, it's good progressivism is going to be very
tough self for this pope, and for people to think
that the Pope is viewed as a political figure in
this country, he's not. If he had then, then most
than the huge incursions among Catholics that Trump made in
the last two elections, last three elections, really I would
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never have taken place. So even with Pope Francis attacking
the President, it did not impact the Catholic vote here
in the United States in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
It didn't work.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Why because you cannot convince any voter, any sane voter,
that having you know, illegal immigrants dangerous in some cases
actually members of gangs, is a good public policy idea.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So this idea is certainly not Roger Weavickers as a
credit break quick break, and I'd love to hold you
over on that. By the way, MS thirteen, I would
point out it is not only a dangerous transnational gang,
they are a Satanic gang. They are a group that
actually performs blood rituals on victims, sometimes very young victims,
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in worship and service of Satan.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Doctor Soovich will be.
Speaker 10 (23:16):
Right back, Terrenx Bates here with your real America's Voice news. Great,
(23:40):
thanks so much for being here with us. We are
continuing to get new details about the new trade deal
between the Trump administration and China. American Trade Representative Jamison Greer,
who joined Treasury Secretary Scott Bestent for the negotiations with
Chinese with the Chinese delegation over the weekend, says the
deal will help reduce the one point two trillion dollar
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US global goods trade deficit. We now also know the
US will drop its tariffs on most Chinese goods to
thirty percent, which is a one hundred and fifteen percent decline.
China is dropping its tariffs on American goods by the
same amount, which means US products entering China will be
taxed at ten percent. However, President Trump believes the most
significant part of this agreement is that China is opening
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up to American companies.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
We opened up our country to China. They we don't
come in to have very few restrictions, and they didn't
open their country to us. Never made sense to me.
It's not fair, and they've agreed to open China.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Fully.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Open China would be I think it would be fantastic
for our businesses if we could go in and compete
and compete with China. It would be a lot of
jobs for China. It would be I think at a
time where they can frankly use the jobs.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
And In other headlines this morning, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy
says flights could be disrupted across the country thanks to
air traffic control tech issues like the one that's been
affecting flights in Newark's Liberty International Airport. While Secretary Duffy
plans to meet with officials from major airlines this week
to discuss reducing flights at Newark, he's also warning that
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airports could face similar disruptions as we head into the
summer travel season. At issue is an air traffic control
facility that guides planes at Newark.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Outages have been happening since August.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
Most recently, that system had a brief radar outage on Friday.
Another air traffic equipment outage forced a forty five minute
or so groundstop in Newark on Sunday. A lot of
that was equipment related because there's just so much antiquated equipment.
Duffy claims that it is safe to fly out of
Newark and elsewhere. Though. That's a great check of your headline.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Hey Jack, where's Jack?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Where's Jack Worthy? Jack? I want to see you.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Great job, Jack, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
What the job you do?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
You know, we have an incredible thing.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
We're always talking about the fake.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
News of the band, but we have guys, and these.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Are the guys you're forgetting bullishes.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Team Jack Prosobik.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
We are back live Human Events Daily, Washington, d c Real,
Marcus Voice and the Salem Radio Network. We're on with
veteran political strategist Roger Stone and we're walking through some
of the political angles visa VI President Trump, jd Vance,
Catholic convert to many believe may run for president in
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short order, by the way, and the appointment of the
new Pope, Pope Leo the fourteenth. You know, Roger, when
I also look on the question of illegal immigration, I
think this is something where a lot of people get
wrapped up in these ideas where they say, oh, it's
you know, it's it's people are just evil, They're doing
this because of greed, et cetera. Yes, but also this
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is a big business. It's a huge business. And by
the way, Catholic charities and Lutherans and there are Jewish
organizations and many other organizations out there using the name
the good name by the way of religion to launder
in money from the taxpayer that then goes into their
pockets and then would go off to others to be
able to get this bigot turned back on. That's something
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that a lot of people don't want to actually talk about,
but is something that President Trump and our new Secretary
of Homeland Security, Christine Noum, have absolutely been targeting. Roger,
do you agree with my assessment that there's a financial
element to all of this, Jack.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I think the American people, oh a great jet of
gratitude to Elon Musk and his DOGE operation for exposing this.
So yes, illegal immigration is is a big multi million,
if not billion dollar business. Now you add in the cartels.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
And the role that they have played.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Look, I think the President should meet with the new
Pope as soon as is feasible, should certainly invite him
for a sit down and to begin to perhaps explain
to him the facts about illegal immigration and the great
danger of these satanic, violent criminal gangs. Instead of the
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Pope persuading the president, perhaps the President can persuade the Pope. These,
of course, are not matters of the church. These are
pastoral matters that Francis spoke out about. He seemed to
have a very very leftist political agenda.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
We agree he was good on some.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Fundamental moral issues, like the entire gender agenda, for example,
and he held the line as far as being pro life.
His view of Uza gays that gays who will welcome
the church they could be blessed, hate the sin, not
the sinner.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I even agree with that. But when he got.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Into matters of American politics, like illegal immigration, for example,
or accommodation with the evil of Chinese communism, where in
all honesty, Pope Francis really let the Chinese communists dictate
who could be a bishop, and I believe a priest
in China, I think he got outside of his appropriate
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area in all honesty.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, and Roger, there's other information, by the way, specifically
where the US, the Vatican just recently was seeking US assistance,
and people really need to hear about this. Just a
couple of years back, where there was the Vatican bank scandal,
and what was the Vatican bank scandal directly associated with
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it was real estate, it was money in uh, it
was money throughout Italy, and in some cases there.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Was even money by the way in.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Peru, Peru, which is exactly where the new pope hails from,
looking for a billion dollars for this financial scandal where
they want this to come in.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And so look, as a Catholic, of course I pray
for the pope.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I am certainly sure that all Catholics pray for the pope,
and I would encourage all Catholics to pray for the pope.
But in fact there was an organization and trying to
pull their name up pure Catholic herald has This was
news just about.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
A month ago when JD.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Vans visited the Vatican and Cardinal Parolin was directly associated
with it. Financial crimes committed by a powerful Catholic entity
called Soldatium christane Vite, which was SCV, which was based
in Peru. Fact, there were there were huge allegations of
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financial scandals. So the question, of course is was was
this this prevost was you know, as a bishop, a
very high level bishop and cardinal out of out of Peru.
The question is was he associated with this? Is he
investigating this? Clearly there's a lot of questions going on here.
But at the end of the at the end of
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the barrel, is this The Vatican is not exactly as rich,
or at least as cash heavy as a lot of
people think.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Isn't that right?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Roger, I think, what do you mean to ask Jack
is what did Pope Leo know and when did he
know it?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
That's surcisely what I was.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I was going to go there. I didn't go there,
but you went. But of course Roger Stone will go there.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
Look, it also appears, just based on my own reading,
that the Pope, the previous pope and his advisors made
a number of of bad investment into decisions which further
weaken the financial standing of the Church. Now I think
the Church is rich, but I also think that they're
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very rich, but they may not be that liquid. I
think there are a lot of real estate hopels for people,
but I think they have liquidity problems. And if they're
looking for the United States to bail them out, well
they're looking in the wrong place, because these days we're
putting America first. I don't know about you, Jack, but
I'm not tired of winning yet. But this has been incredible.
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Seventy two hours, we have a trade deal with the Chinese,
at least the framework of one. Scott Bessen, I think,
one of the presidents very best appointees, perhaps the most
brilliant Secretary of the Treasury.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Since Alexandra Hamilton.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
We have a ceasefire broker by the United States between
India and Pakistan.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
We have a new deal to cut.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
The price of prescription drums, which I think is going
to be extraordinarily popular with the American people.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
We have Robert F.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Kennedy Junior, not only looking into geo engineering also known
as chemtrails, but moving aggressively to outlaw certain very dangerous
additives in our food and the food that we're being sold.
So the President is he is making progress on all fronts,
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but he's doing so by putting America first instead of
putting America last. If I again, the Pope should be
more concerned about where he stands with the President than
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, Roger, when we see from the UK to China
to now going to the Middle East, and certainly this
highlights the role of Saudi Arabia and as a real
broker in the world as we shift the access of
the world. Clearly, think from anyone's who's being honest, the
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geopolitical access the world is shifting from a unipolar world
to a multi polar world. Certainly China as part of that,
certainly India, Russia, Europe, the United States. We are no
longer the sole superpower the UNI global moments.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
The unipolar movement.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Is over, and Saudi Arabia in just a work of fate,
and thanks to the power of the Petro dollar, really
is kind of the center of many of these poles
as well, by the way many of them use their
hair counterpart in the Gulf Iran. And there's a reason
that a world that runs off of oil would of
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course be so focused on these two powers.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Roger, what do.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
You expect out of President Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
Well, at first of all, I think he's great.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
He is resisting the warhawks in his own administration who
are telling him that he needs to strike Iran. He
and the Vice President and his negotiators, including Marco Rubio,
who I think is really doing a phenomenally good job,
have signaled that we are prepared to talk to the
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Iranians about their having some nuclear program, but not one
that includes weaponization, not one that includes the ability to
create nuclear weapons. This is a step in the right
direction for those who think that some kind of strike
on Iran. Don't understand that the Iranians would immediately shut
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down the strait of harm moves, that you'd have an
immediate spike in world fuel prices, including here in the
United States.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
They're unrealistic about the.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Implications of an immediate strike. We seem to be moving
away from Israel in that regard. I think that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Jack Well Roger, and this is something where people need
to understand that a lot of Middle East politics, and
I've said this for so long, it's certainly something I
gleaned during my time as an intelligence officer. A lot
of the Middle East politics and the shifting geopolitical tectonic
plates of that part of the world, which really is
a place where all of these polls kind of come together.
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It can be boiled down to the sides that support
Saudi and the Arab side, and those who support Iran
and the Shia side, so the Sunnis and the Shias,
and it really does boil down to the Saudis versus
the Persians. And of course this is a situation where
President Trump, I think rightly understands that rather than back
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one side in the war, the better goal for am
and launching a new war, the better goal for America
would be to seek a peace deal while maintaining the
security and stability of the region.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Yeah, I think that is absolutely true. On the other hand,
you have to this could be a very tough.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Negotiation with the Arabians. When we.
Speaker 9 (37:04):
Unfortunately unwisely, when Joe Biden ended the sanctions program and
we handed over one hundred and ninety billion dollars to
a rogue regime, then use that money to help the people.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
For example, the cost of food.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
Right now in Iran is off the charts. They used
it to finance and underwrite terrorism. Moss As Bola, making
the attack on Israel October seventh entirely possible.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
So these people, all.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
They really have is their nuclear program. They're not going
to give it up easily. I mean their nuclear weapons
program and not going to give it up easy. I
think they are playing for a time, but they're with
a master negotiator. As he's already demonstrated in the situation
with Russia and Ukraine, he does have infinite patients. But
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finally it appears that he's going to get the Ukrainians
in the Russians to the table.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
I give Steve.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Winkoff perhaps perhaps he mentioned earlier today that while he's
in the neighborhood for at the same time period, perhaps
he'll make a stop himself in Istanbul. Roger, can we
hold you for one more segment. We've got one more
segment here on Human Events Daily. Sure, okay, we're right
back with Rogerstone. You're listening to Jack Posobic watching Real
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America's Voice and Salem Radio Network quick break right back.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Jack is.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Everybody's talking about it. You'll get it from the beginning
of this, and we're going to.
Speaker 12 (39:16):
I think a lot of MAGA people see that as
something of a betrayal.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I just want to play. This is Jack Pasobic.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
He's actually in at the Vatican right now covering this
for some right wing outlets. He's a very loud voice
and conservative spheres. He's traveled with the Defense Secretary and
other other folks around President Trump.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
And here's what he had to say. I'm not going
to mince words. This is not the election the conservatives wanted.
God Save the Church.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Will this pope continue to antagonize President Trump and jd
vance the choice of an American pope. It is clearly
a reaction to President Trump, and I honestly can't see
this read in almost any other light a reaction to Trump.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well, a couple things. Number One, I agree with the President.
Speaker 11 (40:09):
I think it's amazing that we have an American pope.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human
events with Jack Bosobic.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
All right, Jack, with SOBEC and we're back.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Final segment here, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, our
three Charlie Kirk. We're on with veteran political strategist Rogerstone. Roger,
one of the things that happened while I was away
at the conclave was the switching out and appointment that
happened here in Washington, d C. In the district, Ed
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Martin rolled over to the DOJ Weaponization Task Force.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
And the appointment of Judge Janine Janin Piro.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Don't know if that's a demotion judged to attorney, but
she'll now be the US attorney for Washington DC. All
of this because of squishy moderate Republican snakes in the
United States.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Senate Roger, I've got to get your take on it, Jack.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
I think there's a classic example. Be careful what you
wish for the left, the deep state. They were apoplectic
about the appointment of Ed Martin, a straight shooter. Under
Ed Martin is the US attorney, it's just the interim
US attorney in DC. Violent crime the district Columbia dropped
twenty five percent and he wasn't even on the job
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six months. But you're right, his nomination was torpedoed by
Senator Tom Tillis, the Rhino from North Carolina. Now Tillis
is up for reelection in twenty twenty six. He's actually
announced his candidacy for reelection. Just as a matter of
historical precedent, it is absolutely essential that President Trump recruit
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and support a challenger to Tillis, because he must show
all the other Republican senators in the caucus that those
who don't support the party leader, who don't support the
party's agenda, will be challenged. A source told me Jack
that Senator Tillis actually told someone that in his opinion,
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that he would vote for Ed Martin for any other
Department of Justice position, but he could not vote for
Martin to be the US Attorney for DC because he
disagreed with Martin's decisions regarding the January sixth victims. Also
was told that Tillis told someone that actually Babbitt deserved
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what she got, that she had it coming. That is
unacceptable and I frankly think Tillis must face a trial.
I've known Judge Jinny and Piro for well over twenty
five years. She was a very tough prosecutor. She was
the Westchester County District Attorney. She really specialized or focused
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very specifically on crimes against children and domestic crimes, domestic violence,
domestic battery. She was a tough prosecutor. At this point
in her career, she doesn't have to seek approval of anyone.
She has no political aspirations. I think this was an
genius choice by the President to replace Ed Martin, and
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if they thought they were going to get a break
those in the deep state worried about the investigation of weaponization,
the Russian collusion hoax, the Ukrainian collusion hoax, the truth
about January sixth, I think they are sadly mistaken.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
Judge Bureau is going to be just as tough as.
Speaker 9 (43:56):
Ed Martin would have been, and Martin now goes to
a much broader date as both heading a task force
inside the DOJ on political weaponization of our criminal justice system,
but also as a pardon attorney, which I think is
very good news as well.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well, Roger, I think it's fantastic news. You know, this
is something that's great. Ed Martin just someone who has
always been absolutely out there, and he was the right
hand man of Phylish Laughley for so many years, someone who,
by the way, I got to meet when I was
an up and coming in you know, conservative politics, when
I was still in college, along with David Harrowitz and
and Coulter and so many other injury Breitbart who are
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around kind of in the mix at that time. And
Ed Martin comes out of that pedigree, and he's someone
who clearly understands exactly what we're up against, and that,
of course is the reason so many of these people
can't stand him. And I've already been getting hit up
by reporters all week and oh well, if you support
a you know, a primary to Tom Tillis, are you
going to get someone worse?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Going to get this or John Corning over in Texas.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I think what we're going to get is a real Republican,
someone that the people actually deserve to have representing them. Roger,
Where can people go to find you and get more
of your work?
Speaker 9 (45:14):
People can go to stone Zone dot com, stone Zone
dot com and of course every weekday evening at eight
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Speaker 3 (45:35):
Rogerstone is everywhere on the media.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Fortunately my feet, we're back home here in the United
States of America, the greatest country on God's Green Earth.
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Ladies and gentlemen, As always, you have my permission. Really,
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