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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth
generation warfare.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy
intelligence veteran.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Christ is King.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
President Trump facing outrage from Democrats tonight after demanding the
arrest of a half dozen Democratic lawmakers, suggesting they be
executed for posting this video use. We want to speak
directly to members of the military, where six Democrats, all
with national security backgrounds urge members of the military to
disobey any illegal orders from President Trump.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Referring to the video, president Trump writing seditious behavior from traders,
lock them up, and seditious behavior punishable by death. You're
reposting a comment in which someone wrote, quote hang them
George Washington. Would Democrats condemning the comments calling for extra
security for the members involved?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Just to be clear, does the President want to execute
members of Congress? No, Let's be clear about what the
President is responding to, because many in this room want
to talk about the President's response, but not what brought
the President to responding in this way. You have sitting
members of the United States Congress who conspired together to
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orchestrate a video message to members of the United States military,
to active duty service members, to members of the National
Security apparatus, encouraging them to defy the President's lawful orders.
That is a very, very dangerous message, and it perhaps
is punishable by law.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I'll leave that to the Department of Justice in the
Department of War to decide.
Speaker 8 (01:57):
President Trump agrees to release the Epstein files. He says
he assigned the bill compelling the Justice Department to release
its records about the sex offender. Also breaking here at eleven,
former Harvard President Laurence Summers will take a break from
teaching at the prestigious university after his continued relationship with
Epstein was exposed.
Speaker 9 (02:18):
Messador Mike Huckabee had a meeting with Jonathan Pollard, a
former US citizen who was convicted and was about three
decades in jail for selling state secrets to Israel. Did
the White House know that that meeting was going to happen?
Does the administration?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You don't know?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
The White House was not aware of that meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, lady and gentlemen, welcome on board.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Today's edition of Human Events Daily We hear live from Washington, DC.
Today is November twenty first, twenty twenty five. Anno dominie. Well,
ladies and gentlemen. Apparently it's trees in season. What do
I mean by that? I mean we have the shocking
report that US Ambassador Mike Hawkabee had to sit down
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meeting with a convicted trader to our nation, Jonathan Pollard,
and someone who stole US classified information and sold it
sold it to Israel, but also attempted to steal to
sell it to Pakistan and even South Africa at the time.
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This man is a trader. This man stole one million
classified US documents. And on a personal note, he's someone
that I've always particularly reviled because he was a member,
a civilian member of Navy Intelligence and as a prior
Navy intelligence officer myself, Jonathan Pollard is someone that we've
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always looked down upon with extreme disdain. This is not
someone that you want ever to associate with. This is
not someone who has the best interests of the United States,
of our allies, of our citizens, of our peace, of
our men, women and children in mind. He's not someone
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that we should ever be coborting with he was sentenced
to life in prison. His prison sentence was commuted. He
was then sent back to Israel.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
See this is the problem with this huge disconnect that's
going on right now with Israel when you take millennials,
gen Z, gen X and the baby boomers, and there
are people who think that just because he sold these secrets,
our intelligence secrets are classified documents to Israel, that he
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should somehow get a pass. No, that's not how that works,
because if you go back and actually look at what happened,
those documents partially were then given or the information was
then partially given to the Soviet Union during the Cold War,
to the godless communists in Moscow. So walk me through
who the process here? Walk me through the process. Why
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it is that a trader not just a spy.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, no, no, that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
A trader to our nation gets to have a sit
down meeting, which apparently included and there's elements of this
where they were trashing Trump, or at least he was
trashing Trump, he was making fun of him. This is
someone that's made numerous anti Trump statements in the past.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Book about pollared here.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And look, Mike Cockapy is somebody that I like a lot,
someone that I have a lot of respect for.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Absolutely as a.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Governor, I was a huge fan of his going back
to two thousand and eight, even when he was running
for president.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I thought he thought he was a fun candidate.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know what's going on here, but I do
know this, the American people deserve an answer. Is he
still in Tel Aviv? Is he still in Jerusalem? Has
he stayed in Israel? Has he not been called back
to Washington, DC to explain what it is exactly that
was going on. Did he have approval from the White
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House to do this? Did he have approval or not.
You can't sit down with traders. You can't get to
pick and choose just because you have a personal opinion
on the matter when you're a US diplomat. That's not
how it works, not at all. There's no rogue diplomacy.
And this is another example of the optics disaster that
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has gone on when it comes to whether or not
this country and this administration are truly America first. Do
you put America first? Or do you put other nations first?
Jonathan Pollard is a trader. He's a convicted criminal. And
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, but when treason season begins,
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we're gonna have to call it out. Jack Pisobacuman Events Daily,
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White House was unaware that the US ambassador to Israel
met with a convicted spy, a convicted trader, Jonathan Pollard,
the former US Navy intelligence analyst who spent three decades.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
In prison spying for Israel.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
They kept this meeting off of the Ambassador Huckebe's official schedule.
It cost US officials by surprise. They had no advanced
knowledge of this encounter. And and Pollard is the one
who comes out. He talks about it. They talk about
all this stuff. It alarmed members of the US intelligence services. Obviously,
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US officials are not supposed to be meeting with convicted spies,
and certainly not with convicted traders. And as more of
this comes out, I wanted to turn now for the
very first time in studio to Human Events Opinion editor
Kenny Cody.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What's up, Kenny? Hi Jack? How are you? Man? Welcome
to studio, glad to be here. You're you're You're in DC.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You're conducting a series of meetings, you know, some some
on the record, not of the record. I have to
ask you, though, Kenny Cody, as you're here in Washington,
d C. Have you met with any convicted traders to
our nation?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Not Tom knowledge knowledge? Sorry?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
So no Democrat, No democrats Democrats right.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Right right now?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Jim comey, No, not Jim COmON not Jim comey, all right, Okay, good,
so keeping it keeping him clean over here, for keeping
him straight, straight and narrow.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But Kenny, you're here, walk.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Me through the perception of the US Israel relationship among
gen Z because this has become a huge flashpoint politically.
It's something Charlie and I talked about a lot. It's
something that I know Charlie was talking to the administration about,
and I really feel like this is going to be
one of those things that just sends the absolute wrong
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message to young voters.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Yeah, I think with any kind of ambassador, any kind
of conservative that prioritizes any other country over America first
relations it's not gonna be something that gen Z kind
of approves of. And whether you're on the right or
you're on their left, we don't want any kind of
promotion of any other country above America first interests. Even
if you're on the right, like you're an America first conservative,
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I know you are, I know I am. But even
if you're on the left, like you know, unless you're
you're like advocating for like Palestine, Gaza, whatever, like you
don't want to see America prioritizing another country and it's
especially meeting with somebody who for thirty years and was
convicted literally for doing exactly that, spying on the United States,
on behalf of Israel, filling the blank. And I think
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that's the whole thing about the gen Z. Gen Z
is not pro Israel or anti Israel. They're not pro
or Iraq. They're not anti Iraq. They are pro America.
They don't want to see our phones, our interests going
anywhere else besides to the America first mindset.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And there's been this optics I think situation, shall we say,
over the last maybe six months, maybe seven months, where
a lot of people are saying, hey, what's going on
with Israel, what's going on with this relationship? Why do
we you know, why are we seemingly getting involved in
wars with what you know at the behest of Israel.
And then there are people who look at Jeffrey Epstein
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and they saw the Jeffrey Epstein situation, and you know,
I've talked about this at length, and they can see
his ties to Ahud Barak, who was the former head
of Israeli intelligence.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He was also an Israeli Prime minister.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And whether you know, I'm not even going to get
into the debate of you know what exactly he was doing.
But optically there are people in gen Z who look
at that and say, you see, you see there, It
is right, that's that's the special treatment that these guys get.
But we Americans, we always are we are always ones
coming last.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Is that kind of the.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Sense, well that without a doubt.
Speaker 10 (12:20):
I mean, I think when you are having people that
are struggling to you know, afford to live or have
a nuclear family household, they're affording they can't afford to
buy a house, and all of a sudden, these elites
are getting pan or two, they're getting funds, they're getting
all kinds of special treatment like Jeffrey Epstein got by
other countries, and then America is prioritizing those countries over
their own homeland.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And prior to and I always got to give credit
prior to Trump's first administration, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't meaningfully dealt
with by law enforcement at all in this country.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And so you got to give Trump credit.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
His administration arrested him the first time, and you know
he died in prison.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, again not getting into it, but we know, yeah,
you know, we know the story.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
But prior to that, he has all these relationships with
the global elite. He's tied in with everyone, and for
some reason he's just able to do this without facing
any legal consequences and it created That's the perception, And Kenny,
you've written about this forever. That's the perception that I
think Trump ran against in the first place. Walking through
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that really is this sort of like elites versus the
people kind of dynamic.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
Well, the definition of populism is the people against elitism,
and that's in the entire mindset. Is what Trump got
Trump elected both in the public primary twenty fifteen, the
general election in twenty sixteen, like some still from in
twenty twenty, and then again in twenty twenty four. And
I think you have seen over this first year it
feels like Trump at this point has been president for
like three years and we're only about eleven months in
because of the things that they have got done. But
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I think the reason he got re elected this time
there was a new revitalization of the American first mindset
in this country because of the rejection of elite. The
reason Jeffrey Epstein is such a big topic within the
American political sphere is because of the special treatment he
got from the elites that he hosted, that he donated to,
and that he propped up Lock Dell Clinton, Lock Hillary
Clinton and.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Seeing that.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Reed Hoffman from Lincoln and Japel and his Silicon Valley Titan.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Yes, and that elitist mindset is what puts America last.
When you're prioritizing the elites, when you're prioritizing other countries,
you're prioritizing other diplomats, and then now prioritizing illegal convicted
spas within the ford. This promoting Israel or promoting any
other country over America.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
That's the kind of mindset that this country really rejected.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know what it is too And and I think
maybe there's there's a conflict of saying you say America first, right,
and I hear some people say in America only. I
don't think that's quite right either. What I think you need.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Is American people, yes, it's it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You have to keep people on the focus, because if
you don't do that, then you could say you can
insert well, American companies first, yes, or American banks for
or American politicians first, right, and certain you're thinking no, no, no,
it's American people first.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yes, the American people have to come first.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yes, and not that's that's opposed to the elites, that's
supposed to everything. And I'm not And you know those
guys who say America only, I'm not against it. Sure,
I'm saying I think it doesn't quite answer the question right.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
And we are answering as the American First movement, are
answering to the middle class, to the working class men
and women of this country that want to live in America,
want to be safe to live in America, be able
to afford a household, be able to afford clothes and
food for their children. And we have to put those
people first, not the ones that are making millions of
dollars and not the ones that are trying to destroy
the country from the inside out. And the government we
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are prioritizing the middle class first. We're prioritizing the working
class of this country that's struggling.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
To meet paycheck to paycheck. And I think that.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
The reason that you're seeing, you know Epstein get talked about.
You're seeing that you know that this per this spy
that the the Israeli embassy hosted.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I think you have to understand that.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
That anger comes from us wanting to prioritize the American
people first.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Right, So the idea being that, you know, our national
security is the whole, the whole idea. I'm not going
to sit here and say that the you know, you
want to talk about a lead to have a pr problem.
The intelligence community is a little bit of an issue there.
But so you know the way it's supposed to work.
If you watch like like the Netflix version and the
Amazon Prime and all the propaganda films that could put out,
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it's it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Look, we give them this incredible power, this.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And you got cash, you got Dan Bongino, you got
rat Clicks, Tulsa Gabbert. Of course, who are all in there,
Joe Kent, the Great Joe Kent, they're all there and
given this power because we want to be safe, exactly
because we want you to prevent whether it's the cartels,
whether it's terrorism, whether it's China, Russia, Ran, Paraguay, whatever,
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you know, Mexico, whatever country preventing.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Us from harm.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And so to be a trader from that, to be
a trader, it's you're not just putting your yourself at risk.
You're not just you know, betraying your agency, betraying your country.
You're betraying your fellow countrymen. Right, you're betraying our safety
or betraying my children safety, betraying my safety, right, my
parents safety.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's how we should look at this. And so a
trader to the nation.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I mean, it's it's almost like outside of actual violence,
I don't know what could be even be a greater crime.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
It's seditious behavior like behavior isla person.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
As President Trump said just yesterday, we had this whole
you know, yeah, and anything about it like, oh I
loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Too, loved it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And then Caroline, she said, well, Carol, maybe we'll talk.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Well, we have people who sitting in jail right now
because they had knowledge of January sixth that going on.
But yet we're hosting people who had knowledge of US
interests that we're giving our information over to Israel or
any other country that we're hosting and promoting it the Israel.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's exactly right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You got people in jail or I think most to
them have gotten out, but people were in jail for years.
And then they turn around and they invite this guy
into a US embassy that moved into Jerusalem, who's a
trader and and and it's just I'm telling you, guys,
it creates this perception of you're whining and dining this
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this this guy because he's a member of this elite.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And it's like it's like when you go to the
you know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
We go to the amusement park or whatever, and you're
and and you're waiting line, and it's hot and it's sweaty,
and the kids are screaming, and these guys just get
the fast pass and you're like, how the hell did
they get? You know, but and it's like a secret
fast pass. What else has elatest past and elitist past? Folks,
Jack Pisoba, Kenny Cody, we're here Human Events Daily, Red Pack.
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studio with Kenny Cody. Kenny, I want to drill down
on this a little bit more. When you know, we
do see President Trump's polls dipping, and we see him,
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you know, going into the forties, there are some people
out there having in the thirties. I don't think that's
quite right. Sure, but you see that. And what I
look at is I see base erosier. I see people
who It's not people who you know who hated Trump
and people are joining them. No, it's that people who
supported him in the election, people who came out for him,
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These independents, these low prop voters, these people who aren't
usually involved in politics.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Those are the people coming out and saying, you know,
I don't know, I'm just not sure.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
How does the populism versus elitism matrix play into that?
Speaker 10 (21:22):
Well, Populism, to me, I've spoken this meotis for a
lot of years.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
It is a tool.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Populism doesn't have a necessary ideology. It's not communist, it's
not conservative. It is a tool that you use to
talk to the people that.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Are not elites, and I should I should say that
as you point that out.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mandami is going to be in the White House episode.
So there's a popularist. There is a communist who uses
populist populists, but it's a different flavor of populism where
it's not like, hey, let's let's work to rise, you know,
take the ground floor and raise it up and help
out everybody. No, he's much more about taking the people
at the top, killing them and in castigating them and
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taking their stuff.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
And selling that to the American public, like saying that
to the constituency that this is a good idea. It's
going to promote working class stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And it'sated on very much the same anger.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, because we were going through the New York data
and there were people, all right, if you just look
at the numbers, there are people who voted for Trump
in twenty twenty four and then also voted for Mandani in.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And if you don't understand popularism, that would seem crazy
to you.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
And it's obvious that New York didn't.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
I mean, Andrew Cuomo was the most anti populist that
I've ever seen.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Lily came from a family that was elected.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
Lily came from a family that was intringent in New
York politics, and he was the anti populist and he
lost by a landslide. And I think that's what the
issue that the GOP needs to realize right now. And
I've been seeing the praises for years. Populism is how
you win elections, no matter know now, no matter if
that's the end result is good or the end result
is bad.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
That is how you win election.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
But it's also how you have to govern, yes, absolutely,
because you have to listen to the middle class. Because
what populism is, it's having an ear to the issues
that people are caring about. And like the affordability crosis
that Charlie always talked about, that is the main issue.
It doesn't matter what the political identification is, whether you're
a Republican or Democrat, the afford ability crosis is the
main problem in this country. Amongst young conservatives, amongst young Liberals,
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amongst Generation Z, and even those that are a little
bit older the Generation Z those are that may move
to another state because of a housing process or they
have to move for a job. The affordability crisis is
going to be an ever present issue, and we have
to have our ear to the ground and use populism
to know what conservative solutions that we can find in
order to win elections and in order to actually deliver
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on the promises that we have made.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Different So jd.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Vance came out yesterday at that bray Bar forum and
he said, look, I don't care what the politics are.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
We need a health care plan. Yes, and the fact
that we you know, he.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Was talking about the administration, and he was saying, the
fact that we've been in office for this long and
haven't presented a health care pol issue to the American people.
It is an issue because you know, Trump ran against
Obamacarey's been running answered for years. But it's actually kind
of funny, like it's a little ironic. The Democrats are
attacking him for not having a replacement for it. It's like,
so you admit that Obama, we need to replace it,
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that it needs to be replaced to like just wanted
to point.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
That out exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
But at the same time, we all have to live
under it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And you know, I think what jad Van said is
correct because you can't just complain about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You do actually have to step up and offer something
offer action.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
You know, I wrote a column this week that was
that was kind of rejecting the old William F. Buckley
form of conservatism and adopting that pap you can and
Wilmore Kendall conservatism. And that includes actual action, yes, very based,
and that includes actual action over just talking points, like
you actually have to go out instead of going and
debating and getting along with Democrats. We actually have to
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offer solutions and deliver on promises. And that's something that
Buckley didn't really want to do. He wanted to go
over and talk to everybody, get along their body if
you can, and want an action.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
He wanted to go out and.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Listen and use that populism to the effect of actually
getting policy done, prioritizing policy first, and I met the
America first moonset and delivering on the promises for the
middle class and the working class people, while Buckley just
wanted to get along their body and promote low taxes.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And that's so you need that in your optics.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And I do think that the One Big Beautiful Bill
had a lot of those wins in it, yes, But
at the same time it got passed and it's like
nobody saw anything change.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Right, Where was the tour? Where was that?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Rich Barris came on here and said, I want to
see President Trump on tour. I want to see him
going to the factories and turning the lights back on.
I want to see him, you know, going to these places.
Don't just sit in a room and say, oh, this
magnate from Japan says he's going to invest and now
here's the Saudi prince and he's doing a trillion.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's like, okay, it's optics again, this is optics.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You need to show the people that you are delivering
and that way, when it does happen, you get it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
We do have that on the deportation front, which which
which I think is great. We need more of that obviously,
But at the same time, if you don't get those optics,
people are going to say, well, I don't see any changes.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
All I see is this stuff involving foreign policy, right, and.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
And I think they can fill it in their wallets.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
It's at some points, I mean, I know Caroline Leavia
talked about how the you know, sixteen percent less on
turkeys on Thanksgiving, and that's all. That's all fine and great,
but especially with the affordability classes, and just like the
living conditions, like in cities like they've been federalized, like DC,
and you're sending the National Guard in these cities to
keep the peace.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Go out and talk to those.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Let me just say, let me say, inflation is still
a problem and it's bide inflation. Just keep saying that
over and over. Bide inflation is something we're still fighting.
So that's all you have to say.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It is much easier to say than to try to
tell people that it's not happening.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know who did that, Joe Biden?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
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opinion editor of Humanevents dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We're also joined remote via satellite.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I love saying that in our West Palm Beach studio
by Cliff Maloney of the Pachase.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
What's up, Cliff, Yo, yo, glad to be here.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So, Cliff, Kenny and I have been talking about this
and I thank you. You know, coming from Pennsylvania's as well,
you know, it's it's this story. It's a huge scandal,
and I'm just gonna say it. It really is, and
it's something that's gonna, I think, affect voters, and it
already is because it plays into an optic situation that's
been happening with the administration. Mike Huckabee just invited a
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convicted trader into the US embassy in Jerusalem over in
Israel and apparently sat down and had a meeting with
him that the White House didn't even know about. Cliff,
explain it for people who don't understand any of the background.
For low prop voters, who I know you focus on
and study for independence, for gen Z millennial voters, why
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just doing something like that drive a huge optics problem
for the party.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well, let's start with the basics.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
You've said this earlier, Jack, and I want to repeat it.
You can't meet with traders. You cannot meet with traders.
That has to be the policy of the United States.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
At what a concept, right, I asked Kenny that. Wait, wait, Cliff,
I asked Kenny that.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Because he's here in DC on a series of meetings, Cliff,
you're down there in Palm Beach.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I got to ask, man, have you met with any
traders while you're there?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
That's a big fat no.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All right, yeah, okay, no, excellent.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Look.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I think my answer is this in the battle of
trying to reach people, and Kenny said it earlier, I
think he's exactly right. You have to hit working class
on working class issues. And one of the biggest issues
and just ravaging debates of our time is where America
should stand with Israel.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Regardless of what side you're on.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
To have somebody in the position that Mike Huckabee is
in inviting this convicted trader, it just really plays into
that whole argument that maybe we're not the party that
stands with the working class. And I think Donald Trump
has done a great job when it comes to some
of these issues, these populous issues that put America first,
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to make sure that working class, blue collar Americans get it,
and so when we talk to people at the door, Jack,
this is going to make the conversation tougher. Stories like this,
Developments like this that show that we're doing backroom deals
with some convicted traders from foreign countries, regardless of what
country it is, that's not playing in the America First agenda.
So I think this is a major problem, and I
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think we need to make sure we don't have any
more mistakes like this moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That's so perfect the way you just said that he
literally held a back room meeting with a convicted trader
to the United States, And Cliff, I just want to
say the way that Kenny put it earlier, you know,
it does just make it look like there's two tracks again.
It makes it look like there's an elite track for
certain groups of people and there's one other track for
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all the other rooms. And isn't that the exact same
thing when you go out there, when you're knocking on doors,
that's the exact message that we're trying to fight against.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yeah, and look, twenty twenty four was the proof in
the pudding that authenticity is what most Americans care about.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Right, That's the battle you're referencing, Jack, the battle.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Between authenticity and elitism between real Americans that go out there,
that do the work, that actually make production here in
the company, here in the country possible, versus those that
are in their bubble that are the elitists that look
down on working class Americans. And so I think right
now that is the battle. In twenty four we threaded
the needle. We took a billionaire from New York and
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because that's who he is, Donald Trump, we showed the
American people that Republicans are the party of authenticity. That's
going to be the battle when it comes to messaging
in twenty twenty six. It's going to be the battle
when it comes to winning the White House back in
twenty twenty eight. But it's not an easy one. And
Democrats for years have dominated Republicans by using so many
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of these kitchen table issues that we beat them on
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
We cannot let up on that.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
We got to keep talking about the price of eggs,
the price of gas, what the value of money is
in this country, closing the border to put American citizens
over legal immigrants. These are the key issues. And when
we have developments like this, it makes it so much
tougher to prove that we are the Party of authenticity.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Hey, Kenny Cody, and just quick question, are you a
billionaire from New York City?
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Far from it?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
You are not okay from it?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And yet you're in East Tennessee and crrictly if I'm wrong,
but East Tennessee was a little bit pro Trump right.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
As strong as pro Trump is anywhere. I'm from the
county that was eighty eight twelve.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Eighty eight twelve.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, So why is it then that a working class
area like that, RRA like that would go for a
billionaire from New York Because this Cliff says, you know
that this seems like a mismatch.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
Because of populism, because of selling middle class, working class
issues to people that desperately needed.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
That's all my county is.
Speaker 10 (33:32):
We're all school We're all school teachers or factory workers,
were working class Americans. There's not I guarantee there's not
a billionaire within fifty miles to potentially maybe in a
Knox full of a billionaire existing and even close to
Cott County.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
But we know that Donald Trump listened to our people.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
We were concerned about our healthcare, we were concerned about
the that are losing our jobs to you know, sending
our jobs into China, you know, factories moving out, which
happened actually to my county. Kannager moved out about about
ten years ago and cost five hundred jobs.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
This is a huge job loss in.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
My county because of afshorting, getting haus of sending jobs
to other nations. And I think that with this, with
this trade war, with you know, using populoust issues and
being able to can't I have kept focus on the
affordability crosses going on in the country. That's how you
listen to people just like mine.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, Cliff, what Kenny is saying I think makes so
much sense. Now.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I don't know how many operations you have in Tennessee,
but look in Pennsylvania, that's what we hear all the time,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I mean, I'll take some credit. One of our
biggest wins was also one of the largest men I've
ever worked for. That's Glenn Jacobs. That's right, that's right,
And I'm out of Knox County. I know Kenny knows
very well.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So we really appreciate Glenn Jacobs. And Kenny's right, I mean,
the people of Tennessee. It's very, very representative of the
people of Pennsylvania. You know, when you get out into
the suburbs and especially into the tea of Pennsylvania, it's
the same thing. Guys, This is not reinventing the wheel. Now,
politicians and a lot of the consultant try to make
this out to be something that it's not, which is
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that it has to be the perfect message and it
has to be good candidate quality, as Tyler Boyer always
calls them out for those lies. No, we just have
to do the work to connect with people where they're at.
They're trying to take their kids to soccer practice, they're
trying to put food on the table, they're trying to
pay their mortgage, and so these America First policies they
resonate with the American people. But it's on us to
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make sure we can show the difference between what America First.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Is and some of this radical looney tune stuff on
the left.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, Cliff, and let me say this too.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
When it comes to those people as well, I mean
every issue just mentioned right there was economic issue. They
vote with their wallets, these people clearly do. When it
comes to trust, though, are these a particularly trustworthy group
of people when it comes to I don't know politicians.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, let me answer this.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I mean, my favorite moment I think I was with
you on Charlie Show, Jack is when Harley say, Cliff,
how does a Ron Paul libertarian end up becoming the
America first guy running Trump's ballot chase effort in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
and what you just said when it comes to trust,
Jack ended up being one of the number one issues
in twenty twenty four. Kamala Harris cares for they them,
and Donald Trump cares for you, right when you are
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cutting the private parts off of young children and thinking
that that's okay, my trust for any other policy positions
you want to have, any other advice you want to give.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Me as a citizen of this great country.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
I stop listening the trust issue because of the trans
woke nonsense makes it so tough for normal blue collar
voters to take some of these radical democrats seriously.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So no, I don't trust them.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, and then, but this is what I want to say, though,
is that And as maybe I'll say it, it's a warning, right,
This is a warning to any anyone who's using populism,
who's looking at the coalition. If you lose that trust
if you start appearing inauthentic, if you start looking like
you're dabbling in these elite games like saying, oh, I
don't know inviting a convicted trader to have dinner at
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the embassy, right, you lose that trust, You lose that authenticity.
And by the way, these people, I know them. I've
worked with people like this. I grew up around people
like this. They want to hate you, they want to
mistrust you. They're not a trustworthy group of people. They
usually sit there and say, ah, you know, that's all
the inside game. You know, I got to look out
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for me because nobody else is going to look out
for me. That's the mindset that you get. So someone
comes in and promises everything. They say, Okay, we'll give
you a shot, but they're they're waiting for that one
moment to say I'm dipping.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'm out.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Jack Rosoba, Kenny Cody, Cliff Maloney, the Monster Mash panel
of MAGA is here this Friday afternoon of Human Events Daily.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Jack is a great guy.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
He's written that fantastic look and everybody's.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Talking about it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Go get it that.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
He's been my friend right from the beginning of.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
This whole beautiful event, and we're going to turn her
around and make our country way to get a man.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
All right, Jack Zobeger here live. We've got the Monster
Maga panel here on Friday afternoon on Human Events Daily.
We got we got Kenny Cody, we got Cliff Maloney.
This is like, if you want populist nationalism, look no further.
But this, this is what I want to say. And
Kenny Cody in our last segment, I want to give
you a chance to respond to what I was saying
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that This is you know, the flip side of popularism
is if you start looking like you're trending in an
elitist direction, they are on you.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
They are on you, yes, and also they look at alternatives.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
So if wait, if somebody does not.
Speaker 10 (38:57):
Use populism in the correct manner and actually listening to
the working class, middle class, what happens after that? Oh,
who else is using populism? Is it a democratic solution
or republican solution? They do not care whoever is listening
to them and providing some kind of solution. Conservatism, liberalism,
progressivism goes, communism goes out the window. For those people
in those voters because they actually have somebody that's listening
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to them.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
They don't care. They don't care about the isms. They
care about the money. They care about the dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Look go, look, go and look by the way. What
do you see in Michigan? Everyone saw the crazy slocking
video this week, But what else did she do? She
went up in Michigan in front of her voters and
she said, I'm declaring a housing crisis in this country.
She's declaring housing crisis. Then what do you see in
Ohio that's going on? You got doctor Lockdown who's running
against Vivic Ramaswamy.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But doctor lockdown Amy acton? Did she what did she
start to do?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
She's campaigning against h one Bs and she's using support
for h one Bs as a ways to say that
I'm for the people first and you were not because
of your position on this, which isn't even a you know,
it's not a state issue, it's a federal but she's
using it to take that mantle of populism. Kenny, did
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the Democrats realize how powerful this is? And is there
an opportunity then for them to come in and snake
it away from the Republican.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
I think there is an opportunity if that focus gets lost,
and that concentration on the working class and the ones
that are going to the ballot box and those low
proventsity voters like you just talked about too, if that's lost,
the Democrats can absolutely use it. We saw Bernie Sanders
use it in twenty sixteen when he was he was
one of the leading cannons. We saw him use it
again in twenty twenty until clybd sweeped in and Save
Biden was maybe the nominee in twenty twenty, he.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Sanders sold out. He's at five mansions later. Yes, but
he showed that there was a path.
Speaker 10 (40:38):
Yes, absolutely, Populism is not again not a Republican or
a democratic pathway. It is a path to victory no
matter how which way that you want to slice it.
And if we continue to fail on efforts and you know,
prioritize foreign policy over domestic policy, if we're trying to
forget about the working class American that is, are responssible
to for go into the bout box because like with
optics like this, like with foreign pole. See, there's a
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lot of lot priocecy voters that don't care that much.
But when you falter on something as bad as this
and hosting a spy in American embassy. That's something that
little pitcy voter is gonna say, Oh, that's kind of
that's kind of bad, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Like Cliffy Cliff.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So look, you mentioned the trans issue, but I think
the Democrats have kind of understood. They say, you know what,
we're going to move away from that. We're going to
get back to kitchen table issues they're talking about. You
got doctor Lockdown's talking about h one B's in Ohio
using that as a cudgel against Ramaswami. You got Amy
slocking there or at least locking in Michigan talking about
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talking about the housing crisis. This is going to be
the conversation when you're talking to those persuadable voters at
the doors, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yeah, And look no further than New York City guys, right,
I mean you're you're talking about how do they take
populism against this? Obviously I'm not trying to say that
we have any interest in socialism, but take the themes
of populism, which is it's the little guy versus the man, right,
It's the people at the bottom versus the machine, and
I just think that New York proved that it can
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be a weapon of the left right.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
That was mom Donnie's whole message.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
I don't agree with an inch of what that guy says,
but it just proves what you guys just said, which
is the left can take this idea of being the
people pushing back against the establishment, being that rebel who's
going to stand for the little guy. And I think
you're seeing that, And yes, Jack at the door, with
all the voters that we talked to, that's what they
want to hear is they're focused on their family, They're
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focused on things they care about. They want to hear
that somebody's going to care for them. They want to
hear that somebody is not going to be your typical politician.
Now that doesn't necessarily mean that that's a partisan issue
right now, obviously we're usually trying to get Republicans engaged,
Republicans to get involved in the take action.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
But it is that message that what are you going
to do for me?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
And that's different from what a lot of politicians say,
because a lot of them do a lot of talking,
a lot of this, but not a lot of action
that actually stands with the American people.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I think you're right. I think I love that idea
of action. So Kenny walk walk through some things.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
So I mentioned, you know, going on tour, going to
factories if you have the opera showing it, you know,
opening up a factory.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
What else do you think of?
Speaker 10 (43:11):
I mean, I think like usually a lot of the
like these events that you're going to and listen to
the to Generation Z. I mean there's a reason that
they trend in a conservative.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Are you saying, are you saying Trump should hold Gen
Z listening events?
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Yeah, honestly, potentially.
Speaker 10 (43:23):
I mean like a town hall, yes, a talent or
Trump yeah, and do do Q and a's Q and aside,
what about what about wait wait fireside live streams?
Speaker 7 (43:33):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
I mean just just listening to Generation Z.
Speaker 10 (43:36):
You saw them shift out more than the other time
in American history in twenty twenty four, and that Pat
Buchanan mindset going out and saying this is what we're
going to do.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
We're listening to the people, and this is the action
that we're going to take.
Speaker 10 (43:47):
That new mindset is the only way to not only
win Generation Z it gets conservative, but keep them conservative
and Hascott.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Trump's got a huge TikTok account.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yes, he's got a massive TikTok platform, but he's has
he ever done a live on there?
Speaker 7 (44:01):
He needs to and he worked with Aiden Ross like
whenever he went on that one. He's going on one.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
He's himself.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Somebody, Cliff, we got to call Brusewitz and and we're
gonna we're gonna take care of this.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Get get on there, Get get Baron in there, Get
Baron in there. He's he's back in the White House.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
And know we met fire.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Let me let me give credit to post so Fireside
live streams right here at the MAGA.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Would you call us the Monster.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Mas Mega Monster Monster, Yeah, Mega Monster mash on Friday night.
We have to do this on Fridays. Oh yeah, anytime
because you think about it, right, you know, you just
do so.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
And and by the way, that's got to be one
where where he's got to you've got to take that
income and you've got to take that incoming.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
You've got to be open and and you know, show
that you have the ability that you're listening, that you're listening.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I would even suggest go, you know, go go go
to places right set up listening tours and make it
so it's so it's gen Z go.
Speaker 7 (44:59):
And meet where they're at legit like physically and with
last week on a.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
College campus, set it up, you know, something like that
where you're just going in and we saw him do this.
We saw him do this to great effect in twenty
twenty four where he was going to these places and
setting it all up and it was it was just great.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I think it was great well, and.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
I think using like he's even some of the administration
officials should be going out and doing that, using alternative media,
because that's how Generation Z gets their news. Now they're
not getting it off of Fox News CNN. They're getting
off of networks like this and social media.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
But there's no bigger influence.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
People talk about the Trump influencers, right, there's no bigger
Trump influencer than Donald.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Trump exactly exactly, and him utilizing those kinds of tools
I think would do so much, so much effect.
Speaker 7 (45:45):
I mean, you said he's falling on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
That's directly actually one of the best ones that he did.
The other night. Yeah, I forget was it Monday night
football or the other night he was he was.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
Live commentating the game this third and seven.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Oh yeah, stuff like that where you're just out in
the culture and he loves it anyway, and and and
and and look, you know, as as a guy from
from the Philadelphia area, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
The people love football, but from.
Speaker 7 (46:12):
The SEC, from the you know, go valls and that
I'm Sez the ticket holder.
Speaker 10 (46:15):
I'd love to see him attends the SEC football games,
go out and meet go to thee say the Pedgevile
agents or something like those, because.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Pete Pete would go down Pete HEGs.
Speaker 10 (46:24):
Oh yeah, that that's the first time at p XTH.
He's a fillow of all fan like me. And he
went down there and he was smoking his cigars with
his comment. He didn't even sit in the sky box.
He was in the crowd watching his team win.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Maybe maybe we got to get the Secretary of War
codu is down there absolutely wholesome listening sessions with the people. Look,
I get it, it's it's it's a it's a job,
but it's the greatest job in the world.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Guys, did we did we lose Cliff? Is that? Did
Cliff go down?
Speaker 4 (46:49):
I'm here if you guys can hear me.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I got a message that we lost your first at cliff.
We're just about out.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Where can people go to uh to keep up with
all of your travels and everything you're doing on.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
X at Maloney on x at Maloney post. So I'm
gonna come back. We've got some big announcements for twenty
twenty six. We're just getting started.
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We'll be here, man, Kenny Cody, Where can we follow you?
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Speaker 2 (47:14):
We came into that man first time, first time, you man?
All right, all right, ladies and gentlemen. As always, you
have my permission to lay sure