November 26, 2025 • 48 mins
Human Events on Real America's Voice
Segment A: The Witkoff Leaks
Segment B: Who Benefits the Most from the Ukraine war continuing?
Segment C: Will Ukraine EVER become a part of NATO?
Segment D: Is Regime Change the Answer for Venezuela?
Segment E: Thanksgiving and Remembering Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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President Trump says only a few points of disagreement remain
on a possible deal to end the war between Russia
and Ukraine, with the US official telling CBS News yesterday
that Ukraine's government had agreed to a peace proposal and principle.
Mister Trump discussed the negotiations last night on Force One.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, having some talks with Russia.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Ukraine is doing well. I think they're pretty happy about
it, and they'd like to see it end. And we won't
know for a little while, but well, we'll make it progress.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They're trying to get someone to start leaking classified information,
national security information, like, oh, I don't know the current
peace negotiations between the United States, Ukraine and Russia. Leak
that out to try to gin up yet another impeachment
of President Trump.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
The White House is under pressure tonight after an embarrassing leak.
Bloomberg has obtained a transcript of a phone call between
Donald Trump's right hand man, Steve Whitkoff, and a key
Vladimir Putin eight discussing the peace plan for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Ladies and John, and welcome on board today's edition of
Human Events Daily. We're here live real America's voice, folks.
Today is November twenty six, twenty twenty five, Anno Domini
and go listen to what we said. Yes, so, yesterday
I sat down and did an interview with Liz Wheeler
over on The Blaze, and we were talking about the
(02:42):
Seditious Six And I know I've said this here as
well in other spots, and we were talking about, why
did I think the Seditious Six put out what they
put out? Said what they said, Senator Mark Kelly, the
rest of them. Why are they a bording sedition? Why
are they asking for this? I said, They're looking for
another leak. They want someone to come forward and leak
on them, the same way that the phone call between
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Zelensky and Trump all the way back in twenty nineteen
was leaked. And they're trying to use this eventually to
set up another impeachment, a color revolution, get Trump out
of office. That's what this is all about. Well, little
did I know that at so Human Events Daily runs
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There comes a story exclusive Bloomberg News, and what does
it say? They have just received a leaked phone call
of Steve Witkoff talking to the Russians all about the
Trump Ukraine peace deal. It's wit Cough leaks, folks, It's
not WikiLeaks anymore. It's Witcough leaks. So someone we don't
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know who exactly, but someone with access to classified information.
And if you remember, by the way, go back to
the Mike Flynn leaks with the Russians, David Ignatius over
the Washington host what did he do. He got a
leak through PAISA, So he got a leak through FAISA,
which was on the Russian ambassador Sergai Kissliak's phone. He
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got that leak of Mike Flynn talking to him during
the transition period, and they use that to open up
a Logan Act criminal investigation on National Security Advisor incoming
Mike Flynn all the way back in December of twenty
twenty excuse me, twenty sixteen. Gosh, so far, so long ago,
twenty sixteen. So could it be that elements of the
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US governments and we don't know if it was specifically
the US government, possibly Cia, possibly Ukraine, and they passed
it to someone we don't know exactly yet. There was
a conversation between Steve Witkoff and the Russians, and they're
having a conversation negotiations, the plate, the piece deal is
going in he you know, he's talking about how the
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call is going to go Trump and Putin and they're
talking about their bosses. Really basic stuff that happens storing negotiations,
and the media is going to be very upset. But yes,
this is standard negotiation dialogue which he's having. In fact,
that's been Steve Whitcoff's job. That's what he was asked
to do, and in fact, by the way, doutified, dually
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noted and appointed by the President of the United States
as a cabinet level position to go and seek peace
with these various disputes. Now he had Israel, Gaza a
couple of months ago. Now we're looking at Russia Ukraine,
which has really become something of the white whale of
this new administration because of course you're looking at the
end of the first year and people saying, you know,
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is there going to be any end in sight? Now
I've you know, I can personally attest to these efforts
because I've been there in the room, traveled all the
way to the Presidential Palace in Kiev with Secretary of
Bessen on the mineral deal, then traveled to Anchorage, Alaska
with President Trump to sit down with Lavrov and Vladimir
Putin himself also was there when Zolenski came to the
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White House along with this coalition of the willing. And
what do we see also that Macron is now calling
yet again for European troops and American troops to enter
Ukraine to quote, maintain the peace, have a bea peace
making force on the ground. Well, let me tell you
something right now, folks, The old dog doesn't have any
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new tricks. The neocons have one playbook, and only one playbook,
and that is to leak, to obfuscate, to subvert, and
to try to keep the war going because they don't
want us focused on the invasion of our lands, places
like Texas, places like Western Europe, where our leaders in
those areas have been complete failures, and they don't want
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so jd Vance, we're told right now over down at
Fort Campbell with Secretary the Army Driscoll, who has also
been sort of the new special envoy on Ukraine working
on this tack with Whitcough. We've got some of the
images right there Vice President JD. Vance as well as
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Dan Driscoll there with the troops handing out meals for
for this Thanksgiving time. It's an incredible, incredible work from
our Vice president, former United States marine himself. Oh blame
my last. There's no such thing as a former marine.
He is a marine. Someone else who is a marine
is joining us right now. It is Dan Caldwell, a
(09:17):
former I can say former here official over at the Pentagon. Dan,
how are you.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I'm doing fantastic than Thanks for having me on, Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So walk me through this story of the leaks, which
I have to say you know, when I was talking
about I said, I predict there's going to be a
leaked phone call of these peace talks between Trump and
I thought it'd be, you know, Trump and Zelensky or
Trump and Putin. But yet here we go, less than
two hours later we get this leak. I'm calling it
the wi Cough leaks. Right, we had the Wiki leagues
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and I we had the Wick Cough leagues, and they're
leaking this out because it's very simple. They're trying to
blow up these peace talks. And people are saying, oh, well,
he said this about Trump and he said this about Putting.
It's just stop, right, stop, they're having a conversation. He's
building rapport. Obviously he's doing his job. And Dan, what
are you hearing inside the system? Because I know you
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still have your ear to the ground in DC regarding
these talks. Why does it seem like this town, the
town of DC, is trying to blow them up.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, they want them to fail for a number of reasons.
So let's just say you've you've nailed it. The timing
of this is just too perfect. Is that President Trump
trufed out that Dan Driscoll and Steve whitcough, We're going
to go Driscoll to Kiev, Witcough to Moscow, and that
that was a sign that these talks were making actual progress.
(10:41):
So surprise, surprise, somebody. I have my suspicions of who
it is, but I'm not going to say it here,
but I'll just say it's somebody who doesn't want to
see these talks succeed because they have a vested interest
in the war continuing. And within Washing DC, they're obviously
a lot of entities, you know, obviously certain parts of
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the government, but also the think tank community, the media.
They invested in this narrative for years that Ukrainian could
achieve a total victory, reclaim all the land it lost
from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two, and ultimately deal
decisive defeat to Putin. And we all knew at the time,
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those of us that understand these things, that can do
basic math, understood that Russia had key advantages that the
Ukrainians couldn't overcome even with American and NATO support, and
that the war was always going to end at the
negotiating table, and they denied that for years. So their
credibility is on the line. And there's also people involved
that have a financial interest in the war continuing. So
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what they're trying to do is they're trying to take
down people like Steve Witcock, who, by the way, I
just have to say, I think is a patriot. He
could be sitting on a beach in Miami right now,
but instead is flying around the world trying to end
wars for president. And they're also trying to divide the
Trump team. They're trying to pit them against each other,
and it's absolutely disgusting. But I think that the silver
lining is it's just a sign that these talks are
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making actual progress, and that's what this is really about.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And I think you're exactly right. And by the way,
you're that's so true about Steve Whitcoff, and by the way,
so many other members of the administration that in including
up to and including the President himself. They could all
be just sitting on a beach. He could be sitting
down at Mar A Lago, which is one of the
most beautiful clubs in the entire world, and he could
be kicking up. He's got his money, he's got his
his his fame. His family is his supermodel wife. You know,
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he could, he could be doing it all. He's not.
None of these guys are. Steve Whiocuff doesn't even draw
a salary. And I believe, if I remember correctly, he
still flies around on his personal plane. Isn't even take
a government plane when he's doing all this travel all
around the world. And imagine us actually having you know,
in the past, you couldn't dream of having something like this.
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So of course what they're going to do is pit
against it. They're going to attack, They're trying to do
everything they can, because when it comes down to it,
I think you're right that they are, and they have
been selling a lie for all of these years. And
particularly I said this on Steve Bannen earlier this morning. Particularly,
I think that the leaders of Western Europe are also
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using these this this threat of Russia, this constant threat
of war. You have to be you have to be careful.
You know, we have to keep continuing the war because
it's it's very important, or else we're about to be destroyed.
What are they doing. They're using that to distract from
the failures of their own governments, the failures of massive
inflation across Western Europe, and oh, by the way, the
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failures of them to defend their borders in the face
of this massive migrant invasion that is absolutely embroiling all
of Western Europe right now. They're raping little girls, they're
killing people, and they say, oh, don't worry about it,
because you know, the real threat is Russia. And so
I think that the minute that this goes away now
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all of a sudden, they're going to have to face
their own people. And by the way, that also holds
true for Zelenski, who the minute that martial law is
rescinded in Ukraine, he's going to have to stand for elections,
which yet he has not done since twenty nineteen, and he'll,
like we lose.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
The pulling in Ukraine shows that he will likely be
defeated by either, you know, an alternationalist or a former
member of the military. He has a vested interest in
the war continuing or maybe as part of the piece
deel getting it out, maybe getting a condo in another country.
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So I think maybe that may be at play as
well too. I just I have to say something else, Yack,
just to back up on the attacks against not just
Steve Whitcock, but Dan Driscoll, Vice President Vance and whatnot
is there is an element of jealousy here is that
you had the Biden administration full of these highly credentialed
diplomats and people that had served in all the right
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posts throughout their career, people like Victoria Newlan, Tony Blanken,
Brett McGirk, and their entire legacy is one of failure
and death and destruction. And here you have guys like
Steve Wikoff who in nine ten months have ended more
wars and ended more suffering and ended more bloodshed than
they did in their entire twenty and thirty years. So
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they're jealous. They're jealous of what Steve Wikoff and President
Trump and Vice President Vance and Secretary Rugio and now
Secretary Driscoll are doing. And that is so apparent in
some of these comments to made. I mean, God forbid
you turn on CNN, but you can just see the
acid and the jealousy coming out of these people. And
I think you can't ignore that human element as well too.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Here. Well, no, I think that's true. I would just
add that, you know, you go back to the Obama administration,
which of course Biden played a huge role in, and
all the way back to the event of twenty fourteen,
where you've got again. You just can't separate all of
these things that happened, and people say, why are you
bringing that stuff up? Because you can't separate them from
the history. You can't separate the fact that Biden's son
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was on the board of an energy company in Ukraine
while he was the sitting vice president in the middle
of what a lot of people have called a regime
change operation, certainly something that had folks like John McCain
and Lindsay Graham and others going over there trying to
fan the ammy. Klobashar was over there trying to fan
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the flame right with standing on stage with literal Nazis
and people who were mercilessly slaughtering Jewish and Polish villages
in eastern Galatia. You know, during World War Two, these reprisals,
the benderas, and yet you know, we act like, oh, no,
this was just you know, it was just a totally natural,
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organic uprising. The United States had nothing to do with it.
And you know, you really have to sit back and
ask the question, you know, when when people in the
area feel that this was provoked, when we do things
like that, they might just have a point.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, absolutely, as you cannot. There's a straight line from
Victoria new and handing out cookies on the midon to
Neo Noxy organizations to what we're dealing with now. It's
a straight line of foreign policy establishment failure. And that
is the world that President Trump walked into, and it's
a world he has to operate in. And this gets
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to the most important point is that there is this
delusion that there's this magic set of sanctions and munitions
and arms that you can dump into Ukraine. You can
impose these sanctions on Russia and russiabile, buckle and withdraw
and agree to terms that are more favorable to Ukraine.
That is not reality. And the reality is is that
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the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for Ukraine.
And President Trump and his team knows that, and that
is why they are aggressively pursuing this deal. And all
the people that are trying to say that it gives
too much to Russia or it's going to undermine Ukraine's sovereignty,
wait six months, Wait six months, and it is going
to be fundamentally worse for Ukraine and the deal will
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be worse for them.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Then no, the deal's only going to get with the
best deal is the first deal, right, The best deal
is always the first deal. Every single deal since then,
the price goes up and up and up, and not
just terms of concessions, but also in terms of the
amount of men, materiel, manpower and human lives that are
lost every single day on the battlefield of a war
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can you do that? I think it's my fourth red
eye in like six days or something. So running down
to the bone here, But Dan Calbell, as we look
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at Fort Campbell, what is the deal with all of
these piece plans we're here? The twenty eight point plan,
the nineteen point plan, the European Plan, the Ukrainian Plan,
the Russian Plan? Is there any one plan? And I
think obviously the answer is that clearly these are ongoing
negotiations and people are trying to get in. So what
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are your sense that on that? But then also let's
get into some of these sticking points on the various
iterations of the plans.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
So first of all, my advice to all your listeners
and viewers is is what I was told when I
went as a marine to Iraq, and that is, believe
nothing of what to hear and only half of what
you see. Right now, there is a massive disinformation campaign
going on to try and shape the narrative about these deals,
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and you also have the Ukrainians, the Russians, and the Europeans.
They're trying to speak to certain domestic constituencies, and in
the case of the Ukrainians, I believe that they're trying
to save face. Is that a lot of them know
they're going to have to make some tough concessions and
they don't want to give that impression right off the bat.
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So there's a lot of people leaking to the various
media outlets and friendly reporters trying to shape a narrative here,
and everybody should be suspicious of that. But ultimately, at
the end of the day, I think that this is
really going to come down to a couple major issues,
And first and foremost, I think the biggest one is
Ukraine's alignment, whether or not it's going to join NATO
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or it's going to join the E you either economically
or part of the whole package which includes certain security guarantees,
and then what type of security guarantee is going to
be given to Ukraine and how that is structured. Secondarily
to that is the issue of territory. Is are there
going to be landswaps or is a line of contact
going to be frozen. Are there going to be other
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types of deals around territory like a d military zone.
And I think the other big issue is going to
be the size and scope of the Ukrainian military. And
what I just finally say on this is is that
one thing that I would advise everyone is is that
there's going to be some face saving things for both
sides that fall under these buckets. So like the cap
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on the Ukrainian army, and my view doesn't really matter
that much if there's a six hundred thousand cap or
an eight hundred thousand cap. The reality is the Ukrainians
are unlikely going to be able to sustain a military
of five hundred thousand, But if there is a cap,
then the Russians can say they got something out of that.
So there's going to be a lot of things like
that playing out, and ultimate at the end of the day,
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where I think those issues are truly going to be
resolved is when when Steve Witkoff and Dangerous and others
get it to a point where President Trump, Zelenski and
Putin are ready to sit down and those it's those
three that are going to ultimately resolve those issues.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, and a big piece of this too, of course,
is the security guarantee, because I've heard, you know one
in one of the drafts I believe it's the European draft,
they're talking about a potential road map for Ukraine to
join NATO, and I came on the program and said, well,
there's no way Russia is going to agree to that.
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And that's been their, uh, their sole main sticking point
of any you know, of any agreement. That's why they
launched the war was over this issue. So they're just
not going to agree to that in any situation. They're
going to say, if that's what you're you know, your condition,
We're just going to keep fighting. And then what it
also comes down to this the idea of land swap.
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I saw that obviously. Wikoff mentions that in the League transcript,
But at the same time, I haven't really seen any
proposals for Russia to give back any land that they've
taken save that DMZ potentially and done Yetsk.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Correct, and I think they hold small amounts of territory
in Kharkiev and Sumi Province. They probably withdraw from there
and maybe agreed to some type of buffer zone, but
there likely wouldn't be a lot of land given back
on the Russian side. I think that's reality. But Jack,
you're absolutely right about the NATO point. And I think
it's also worth noting too that President Trump repeatedly, going
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back years, has said that Ukraine shouldn't be in NATO
and said exactly what you said, is that this is
one of the main drivers of the war. I was
with Secretary Hegseth back in February where he made very
clear in front of all the NATO defense ministers and
the Ukraine Contact Group that we don't believe that Ukraine
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should join NATO. And so I think that that for
the United States and Russia is a deal breaker. But
for the Europeans, they keep pushing that in my view
because a lot of the members of EU and European
members of NATO, let's just be honest, they want the
war to continue. So they're trying to insert that as
a poison pill to undermine the negotiations and ultimately keep
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this war going on as long as it can for
their own reasons.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Indeed, they do all right, Jack, sobk Dan Calwell right
back Human Events Daily.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Where's Jack?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Where's Jack? Where is he?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Jack?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I want to see you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Great job, Jack, thank you, what a job you do.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
About the fake news and demand, but we have guys,
and these are the guys you're forgetting policies.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, Jack the Cubik. We're back live here Human
Events Daily. We're on Dan Crowball.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know's what's interesting about all of this is you
and I are sitting here and we're chatting during the
break a little bit, but we're having this discussion about
the Ukraine Russia peace deal. We're trying to be very
sober about this, not give you know, not let emotions
or you know, opinions really guard it. Other than this
is analysis, right, This is understanding what the status of
forces is on the ground, understanding what the order of
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battle is, and trying to look at what's in the
best interests of certainly the United States and then you know,
hopefully obviously our allies and partners as well. But that's
not what you get from a lot of people when
you read about this conflict. What you get are these
sweeping statements about legitimacy and credibility and histrionics and shrieking
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from you know the neocon crowd, and I guess I
guess my sense of it is, you know, and you know,
having worked in the IC and having worked in DC,
I do try to get us you know this. There's
one school of thought right that says, Okay, it's all cynical,
it's all about money, it's about oil, it's about this
and that. And to be sure, that plays a part,
but I don't know if that it completely answers the question.
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I think that a lot of the neocons, they just
actually believe this stuff like it's a religion.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Absolutely. Their religion is American primacy. It is America needs
to not just be the most powerful country in the world,
which we should strive to be, but we need to
dominate the world so we can oppose liberal hegemony. Is
that they believe that ultimately America was founded and obviously
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this is the wrong interpretation of America's founding, but that
America was founded with this holy mission to make the
world safe, not you know, for Americans, but for liberalism
as a whole. And so for them, especially over the
last few years, is that Russia Ukraine has become the
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central theater in that battle. Never mind the fact that
as the war is dragged on, Ukraine has indisputably become
more illiberal. You know, as you mentioned earlier Zelensky's ruling
under martial law. They're cracking down on media outlets in Ukraine,
They're trying to close certain churches in Ukraine, and they're
press gaining tens of thousands of Ukrainian men and forcing
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them to serve on the front lines by no reasonable measures.
That a symptom of a healthy liberal democracy, not to
mention the recent corruption scandal that is rocking Ukraine. And
so for them, they are so invested in that narrative,
in that mission that if the war ends with anything
(30:07):
short of a total Ukraine victory, it is going to
shatter a core tenet of their faith. And so that
is driving a lot of this. It's like, it's not
just the military industrial complex wanting to make more money.
In reality, Jack of You've talked about before is military
industrial complex is more work than they can handle. They
(30:27):
have like seven, eight, ten years worth of backlogs and orders.
So that's not the only motivation here. Definitely people want
to make money off of it. But in the United States,
in the Beltway, there's so many people just invested emotionally
and personally in this that it's like this quasi religious
fervor that really has overtaken their thinking and preventing them
(30:50):
from doing reasonable analysis of this conflict.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm so glad you put it that way. It truly
is the religion of d C. The Bible of the Beltway,
if you will, In the Bible's taught when you're going
through you know, George Ross's University, or you're going through
Georgetown or whatever it is, or any of the you know,
the foreign policy schools, you get taught neo conservatism, neoliberalism,
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and that is your soul. And by the way, that
doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat. You
get taught that this is a central tenet of our faith,
that the United States must be this what they call it,
you know, the global guaranteur, right, the global guaranteur of
the international rules based order. And by the way, Tony
Blincoln would talk about this at length. And this is
(31:36):
one of the reasons that they opposed Trump so much.
Because Trump doesn't play within the rules. He holds these
unilateral calls. He appoints people like Steve Whitcoff, right so
to them they've they viewed Trump. It isn't even just
so much that he's offering, you know, a piece deal
to the Russians. It's the way that he's going about it.
He's not kissing the ring. He's not going through the institutions.
(31:59):
So it's like he's not working through you know, his
diocese and his archdiocese and his bishop and the monsignors
and the cardinals. No, he's he's set up his own
religion and he's trying to do it on his own.
And that's the kind of response you're getting. You're getting
a response of a religion that's trying to drive out
a heretic.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Absolutely. You know, in this case, the cathedrals are places
like Ai, you know, on the right, in Brookings on
the left, which I just have to note the differences
between those institutions aren't much. The same families run the
foreign called, the same family runs the foreign policy program
largely at both institutions. Re Red Kagan at Ai, his
(32:40):
brother Bob Kagan at Brookings, who by the way, is
married to Victoria Newland. So a lot of the as
you pointed out, like the debate really is within the
forty yard lines here and there's not much difference. And
that was the case for you know, nearly thirty years
until Donald Trump comes down the golden escalator in twenty fifteen,
and he just blows it all up, and a lot
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of the anger against him, a lot of the just
over the top rhetoric, and let's be honest, a lot
of the actions by the National security state against him
had been driven by the fact that he's a heretic
in the main religion in DC, and that religion is
liberal hegemony.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And by the way, you know, as I obviously we
see what's going on down in Venezuela or off the
coast of Venezuela, and certainly the president is within his
rights and absolutely within their interest in the United States
to drive out narco terrorists that are affecting our country.
But at the same time, you do hear and you
can feel those wins of liberal higenemy pushing that naval flotilla,
(33:45):
that carrier strike group closer and closer to Venezuela because
they want to drive this out and get us enbrilled
and yet another war the Vietnam of the Tropics, I guess,
right in our own hemisphere. Because this is religious for
of these people.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Right, and and again, as you and I have discussed,
what matters in our own hemisphere is more important than
the negativedual issue of which Eastern European oligarch gets to
loot the don Bos. You know, that's maybe a little
little flippant. Let's just be honest. It's like that doesn't
really matter to our core national It's just true, yes, exactly,
(34:25):
but you know, so we we do. This does matter.
The cartels and other entities in the Western hemisphere are
more of a threat to us, and say the redmnants,
al Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East, but it
is I don't think it's in our interest to conduct
a regime change war and our own hemisphere right now.
We will see what happens there. It looks like President
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Trump is maybe backed off and is trying to once
again pursue diplomacy with Maduro. We'll see how that develops.
But it's interesting is that there actually are some people
in the who traditionally are warhawks oppose what is happening
in Venezuela because one, it's President Trump doing it, let's
be honest.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
But also too is.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
That they are more attached to what happens in the
Middle East or in Eastern Europe than our own hemisphere,
because they don't really have an attachment to here at home.
It's attachment to the global project of liberal hegemony. And
so that's why you have Bill Crystal, who's never met
a war he didn't like. I mean, a few years
ago he was talking about making Cuba our fifty first state.
(35:29):
He's raising concerns about doing stuff in Venezuela. And so
that's something I'm starting to see pop up, is people
opposing this and causing for calling for congressional oversight in
Venezuela when they've opposed it for years in Ukraine and
Iraq and Syria in Afghanistan, because for them, it's about
the global project, not what actually matters to us here
(35:52):
in our own backyard.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Right because we're not exactly up against another empire there.
It's not exactly this crossroads of the world, the you
know where East meets West. I mean Ukraine itself. The
name ugur Nitza means at the border, it means borderland.
So it's it's always been this sort of area where
you know, you've seen this clash of empires and of
course we saw that in World War One, we saw
(36:16):
that in World War Two, and we see it yet
again today Napoleonic Wars. It's everyone knows the history, and
if you don't, you should start learning it because you
will be doomed to repeat it. Final minute to you,
Dan Clawwell, and make sure you also give us your
coordinates for where to follow you.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Jack, I just want to say real quickly, you absolutely
need to learn about that history, not just World War Two.
I'd advise everybody to learn about another war besides World
War Two, specifically World War One, but putting that aside.
Where you can find me the most is on X
at Dande Caldwell on X and Jack, thank you for
having me on. I really love this discussion all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And by the way, just to just to get this
out there, because this has been kind of blowing up
on my Twitter feed, I got to know what your
stance on green bean castle roll. Are you four or
are you against? Can green bean cast role be part
of your Thanksgiving dinner?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I have never had green bean cast role as part
of Thanksgiving. That doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. This
is a cop out. Okay, maybe I'd like it maybe not.
That's just not something my family's ever done.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
But okay, but how about in okay, how about in
the abstract in general? Is green bean castle role served
at your table?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I don't think I've ever I look, you may kick
me off to show I see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Damn, you're coming over. We're having Danner Tanya's making the
castle role. We're gonna twist you on this, man, Absolutely,
I love it. Gonna get you on the team. Hey,
Happy Thanksgiving, brother, They don't be right back you Events.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Jack is a great guy.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
He's written a fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Go get it that.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
He's been my.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Pat We're going to turn her around and make our
gun way to get him a man.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
All right, folks, we're back Jack pasobac here Human Events Daily.
You want to thank Dan Colball for coming on and
giving us that great round Robin Ukraine, Russia, Venezuela. We
kind of hit all of it. The wit coff leagues
we got in there. So Thanksgiving is tomorrow, and we're
obviously very excited about that. I'm very excited about that.
We're going to be We're going to be home Philadelphia area.
(38:42):
I'm probably going to be probably going to be seeing
a football game at some point this weekend, but more
to come on that. And we've got something really exciting
for everybody on so Thanksgiving Thursday, and then of course
Black Friday right after. What we're going to be doing
here on Human Events Daily is taking kind of a
(39:03):
different tack on things. And there's been a few stories
that I've wanted to get to and really just sit
down and devote a lot of time to. And the
biggest one I think, of course that's clearly on my
mind and all of our minds. It's certainly not never
far from my thoughts is the murder of my friend
Charlie Kirk. And we are got the you know, the
(39:23):
T shirt on here, the black Freedom shirt, and these
are available, by the way, if you want one of these,
you just go to Turningpoint dot com. They gave me
a shirt and they said that if I want the shirt,
I have to say turning Point dot com, so you
can go and get the They've got shirts, they've got hats,
they've got other things up. But we're going to try
to dig in into the case of Tyler Robinson himself.
(39:47):
Who was this guy? Why did he do what he's
alleged to have done, What was his relationship with Lance Twiggs,
his homosexual boyfriend and then lay trans furry lover and
how did liberalism, furry fetish's pornography and all the rest
(40:11):
of it lead to what we're told is him climbing
up on that roof and taking shots at my friend.
And so we're going to spend two days on this.
We're going to go through leaks that originally were released
by a YouTuber called Turkey Tom and we're going to
(40:33):
talk about it with Liz Wheeler tomorrow and then a Friday,
we've got clinical psychologist, doctor Chloe Carmichael a is going
to join us, and with doctor Chloe, we're actually going
to do a sort of you know, psychoanalysis, psychoanalytical description
of the relationship between these two, what makes them tick,
how one drove the other, and potentially what the motive
(40:55):
may have been. All of this is going to come
out at the trial, by the way, so you know,
we're clearly trying to get a head of that. But
you know, even for my own edification, you know, I
this is how I deal with things, folks. This is
how I when something like this happens. You know, other people,
you know have different processes. My process is this. I
want to know everything. I want to understand it. I
(41:16):
want to get my arms around it. I want to
get my head around it. So that's who we want
to dig into. Last night we played on Thought Crime
some of the footage from last year's Thanksgiving episode, and
it was a really interesting time because I want to
put you into the context of where we were a
year ago Thanksgiving, the last Thanksgiving. So Charlie and I
(41:38):
were down in Florida and we were spending a lot
of time at mar A Lago. It was the transition period.
So it just picture it right the context. Trump has
just won the election, the MAGA movement is ascendant, won
the popular vote, won all the swing states, and you
know you're down there, You're seeing you know, Pete Hegseth
is coming in and then gets anounced he's going to
(42:00):
be Secretary of Defense later Secretary of War. You're seeing
so many people come in through the cabinet. You're seeing
the incredible work of the Trump team as they go
from being the campaign senior staff Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller,
Stephen Chunk, Caroline Levitt, everybody you know going through, Taylor Budovich,
Dan Scavino had so many names, right, And I apologize
(42:21):
for anyone I've met that I may have missed, but
it's it was an incredible time, and you know, Charlie
was on top of the world. He was absolutely on
top of the world. Who does he want to be
in the next government? Elon, of course, is all over
and a lot of late nights just sitting out with
Elon on the terrace at mar A Lago chatting. So
(42:42):
in the middle of all this, we put together a cause,
you know, we're all in great moods, so we put
together this Thought Crime Thanksgiving special and Charlie and I
for once it was just the two of us in
the studio together. And it's just from a personal note,
one of my one of my favorite times that we
did the show, and probably my favorite episode. I'm going
(43:06):
to go have to say and it's my favorite episode,
and I want to play a clip of that for
you right now, because it was not us just agreeing. No,
we got into it and I held Charlie's feet to
the fire, so by the way, By the way, I
don't want to throw my mom under the bus because
every single year, and I know she's gonna watch this
every single year post that there's like a selection of
pumpkin pies that is always available the way it must be.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
By the way, do you think that pecan pie can
also make an appearance?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Can be there, but pumpkin and the can pie.
Speaker 7 (43:35):
I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie. However, I must
have a slice of pumpkin pie. Wait, wait, were you
always like that though when you were little? My mom
makes a killer pecan pie, like destroys the world.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, what about when I was younger, I was.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Always pumpkin But then well, now we're getting into chocolate
pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And that's where you just surrender. You're just done at that.
It's just so you throw you throw it because guys,
you know, folks that don't know Charlie, you're usually pretty
strict with your diet. You're strict. It's like you're usually alone.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
Thanksgiving is different Thanksgiving all in.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So that's that's us one year ago. That's me and
Charlie in studio, and uh, you know, I gotta say,
just look, no, hate for pea campie. All right, I
like pea campie. I'm not against pea campie, but it's
not better than pumpkin, all right, It's just not better
than pumpkin. But to his credit, Charlie did admit that
pumpkin pie is required for Thanksgiving. And in fact, we
(44:35):
put together and if you guys want to go watch
the episode, it's up on on Charlie Kirk's podcast, and
you can get it on Human Events Daily as well.
We're gonna be re airing a lot of this. We
put together Charlie Kirk's entire Thanksgiving menu, and so I want,
I want everyone to go and check that out. So
it's got you know, turkey is required, Turkey with gravy stuffing,
(44:57):
and he gives out an entire recipe for stuffing, Cranberry's
straight from the can, no alterations, by the way to
the can, sweet potatoes, but no marshmallows. Charlie believed that
marshmallows were kind of a new age thing and they're
not really part of it. And then yes, you cap
it all off with that commandment, and what he said
(45:18):
was the first commandment of Thanksgiving, thou shalt have pumpkin pie,
great dinner, great meal. I didn't know that. I remember
going into the episode. I don't even think we were
planning to talk about Thanksgiving or maybe just we were
going to talk about like what we did. And I
had no idea that Thanksgiving was such an important holiday
for Charlie and something that he took so incredibly seriously.
(45:41):
But it was cool to see that this really was
a big holiday for him. And you know, I'll just
say this that, you know, you saw that video of
him talking about his mom making such a what he said,
a killer pea campie, and I hope that she's making
it again this year and that she continues to serve
it because it was her son's favorite favorite pie. But
(46:06):
you got to also have the pumpkin pie as well.
Can't break the first commandment of Thanksgiving. So I know
that all of us are going to be thinking about
Charlie a lot during the holidays, and what can I say,
it is kind of hitting me a little more. I
do also have, oh it's over there, the new book.
(46:27):
So this is a copy of the new book that
Charlie is going to be putting out comes out December ninth.
I want to give some promo. It's called Stop in
the Name of God. It's about how Charlie would take
one day a week off of social media and focus
on family, focus on God, focus on reading. So taking
that one day off Stopping the Name of God. And
(46:48):
the forward is done by Erica Kirk. So got my copy? Really,
I really want to say thank you to everybody for
getting the early copy of this. We're going to be
check it out this weekend, of course over Thanksgiving, and
if you guys want to get a copy of it
as well, you guys can go ahead and pre order
that right now. And you know, from the Posto family
(47:11):
to all of yours, have a happy Thanksgiving. Think of
what you're thankful for. Be thankful for the things that
you have, because you could lose them in an instant.
And I'll just say this, folks that for this Thanksgiving
at our table, we're going to be leaving a chair
empty for Charlie as a reminder, not that he's gone,
(47:36):
but a reminder that he's with us, celebrating Thanksgiving up
in heaven with Rush and all the heroes, because that's
where Charlie is right now. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,
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President Trump says only a few points of disagreement remain
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Mister Trump discussed the negotiations last night on Force One.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, having some talks with Russia.
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Ukraine is doing well. I think they're pretty happy about
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They're trying to get someone to start leaking classified information,
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The White House is under pressure tonight after an embarrassing leak.
Bloomberg has obtained a transcript of a phone call between
Donald Trump's right hand man, Steve Whitkoff, and a key
Vladimir Putin eight discussing the peace plan for Ukraine.
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Today is November twenty six, twenty twenty five, Anno Domini
and go listen to what we said. Yes, so, yesterday
I sat down and did an interview with Liz Wheeler
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(02:42):
Seditious Six And I know I've said this here as
well in other spots, and we were talking about, why
did I think the Seditious Six put out what they
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rest of them. Why are they a bording sedition? Why
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There comes a story exclusive Bloomberg News, and what does
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of Steve Witkoff talking to the Russians all about the
Trump Ukraine peace deal. It's wit Cough leaks, folks, It's
not WikiLeaks anymore. It's Witcough leaks. So someone we don't
(03:49):
know who exactly, but someone with access to classified information.
And if you remember, by the way, go back to
the Mike Flynn leaks with the Russians, David Ignatius over
the Washington host what did he do. He got a
leak through PAISA, So he got a leak through FAISA,
which was on the Russian ambassador Sergai Kissliak's phone. He
(04:10):
got that leak of Mike Flynn talking to him during
the transition period, and they use that to open up
a Logan Act criminal investigation on National Security Advisor incoming
Mike Flynn all the way back in December of twenty
twenty excuse me, twenty sixteen. Gosh, so far, so long ago,
twenty sixteen. So could it be that elements of the
(04:32):
US governments and we don't know if it was specifically
the US government, possibly Cia, possibly Ukraine, and they passed
it to someone we don't know exactly yet. There was
a conversation between Steve Witkoff and the Russians, and they're
having a conversation negotiations, the plate, the piece deal is
going in he you know, he's talking about how the
(04:53):
call is going to go Trump and Putin and they're
talking about their bosses. Really basic stuff that happens storing negotiations,
and the media is going to be very upset. But yes,
this is standard negotiation dialogue which he's having. In fact,
that's been Steve Whitcoff's job. That's what he was asked
to do, and in fact, by the way, doutified, dually
(05:15):
noted and appointed by the President of the United States
as a cabinet level position to go and seek peace
with these various disputes. Now he had Israel, Gaza a
couple of months ago. Now we're looking at Russia Ukraine,
which has really become something of the white whale of
this new administration because of course you're looking at the
end of the first year and people saying, you know,
(05:37):
is there going to be any end in sight? Now
I've you know, I can personally attest to these efforts
because I've been there in the room, traveled all the
way to the Presidential Palace in Kiev with Secretary of
Bessen on the mineral deal, then traveled to Anchorage, Alaska
with President Trump to sit down with Lavrov and Vladimir
Putin himself also was there when Zolenski came to the
(06:00):
White House along with this coalition of the willing. And
what do we see also that Macron is now calling
yet again for European troops and American troops to enter
Ukraine to quote, maintain the peace, have a bea peace
making force on the ground. Well, let me tell you
something right now, folks, The old dog doesn't have any
(06:22):
new tricks. The neocons have one playbook, and only one playbook,
and that is to leak, to obfuscate, to subvert, and
to try to keep the war going because they don't
want us focused on the invasion of our lands, places
like Texas, places like Western Europe, where our leaders in
those areas have been complete failures, and they don't want
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so jd Vance, we're told right now over down at
Fort Campbell with Secretary the Army Driscoll, who has also
been sort of the new special envoy on Ukraine working
on this tack with Whitcough. We've got some of the
images right there Vice President JD. Vance as well as
(08:56):
Dan Driscoll there with the troops handing out meals for
for this Thanksgiving time. It's an incredible, incredible work from
our Vice president, former United States marine himself. Oh blame
my last. There's no such thing as a former marine.
He is a marine. Someone else who is a marine
is joining us right now. It is Dan Caldwell, a
(09:17):
former I can say former here official over at the Pentagon. Dan,
how are you.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I'm doing fantastic than Thanks for having me on, Jack.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So walk me through this story of the leaks, which
I have to say you know, when I was talking
about I said, I predict there's going to be a
leaked phone call of these peace talks between Trump and
I thought it'd be, you know, Trump and Zelensky or
Trump and Putin. But yet here we go, less than
two hours later we get this leak. I'm calling it
the wi Cough leaks. Right, we had the Wiki leagues
(09:47):
and I we had the Wick Cough leagues, and they're
leaking this out because it's very simple. They're trying to
blow up these peace talks. And people are saying, oh, well,
he said this about Trump and he said this about Putting.
It's just stop, right, stop, they're having a conversation. He's
building rapport. Obviously he's doing his job. And Dan, what
are you hearing inside the system? Because I know you
(10:09):
still have your ear to the ground in DC regarding
these talks. Why does it seem like this town, the
town of DC, is trying to blow them up.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, they want them to fail for a number of reasons.
So let's just say you've you've nailed it. The timing
of this is just too perfect. Is that President Trump
trufed out that Dan Driscoll and Steve whitcough, We're going
to go Driscoll to Kiev, Witcough to Moscow, and that
that was a sign that these talks were making actual progress.
(10:41):
So surprise, surprise, somebody. I have my suspicions of who
it is, but I'm not going to say it here,
but I'll just say it's somebody who doesn't want to
see these talks succeed because they have a vested interest
in the war continuing. And within Washing DC, they're obviously
a lot of entities, you know, obviously certain parts of
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the government, but also the think tank community, the media.
They invested in this narrative for years that Ukrainian could
achieve a total victory, reclaim all the land it lost
from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two, and ultimately deal
decisive defeat to Putin. And we all knew at the time,
(11:25):
those of us that understand these things, that can do
basic math, understood that Russia had key advantages that the
Ukrainians couldn't overcome even with American and NATO support, and
that the war was always going to end at the
negotiating table, and they denied that for years. So their
credibility is on the line. And there's also people involved
that have a financial interest in the war continuing. So
(11:48):
what they're trying to do is they're trying to take
down people like Steve Witcock, who, by the way, I
just have to say, I think is a patriot. He
could be sitting on a beach in Miami right now,
but instead is flying around the world trying to end
wars for president. And they're also trying to divide the
Trump team. They're trying to pit them against each other,
and it's absolutely disgusting. But I think that the silver
lining is it's just a sign that these talks are
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making actual progress, and that's what this is really about.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And I think you're exactly right. And by the way,
you're that's so true about Steve Whitcoff, and by the way,
so many other members of the administration that in including
up to and including the President himself. They could all
be just sitting on a beach. He could be sitting
down at Mar A Lago, which is one of the
most beautiful clubs in the entire world, and he could
be kicking up. He's got his money, he's got his
his his fame. His family is his supermodel wife. You know,
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he could, he could be doing it all. He's not.
None of these guys are. Steve Whiocuff doesn't even draw
a salary. And I believe, if I remember correctly, he
still flies around on his personal plane. Isn't even take
a government plane when he's doing all this travel all
around the world. And imagine us actually having you know,
in the past, you couldn't dream of having something like this.
(13:01):
So of course what they're going to do is pit
against it. They're going to attack, They're trying to do
everything they can, because when it comes down to it,
I think you're right that they are, and they have
been selling a lie for all of these years. And
particularly I said this on Steve Bannen earlier this morning. Particularly,
I think that the leaders of Western Europe are also
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using these this this threat of Russia, this constant threat
of war. You have to be you have to be careful.
You know, we have to keep continuing the war because
it's it's very important, or else we're about to be destroyed.
What are they doing. They're using that to distract from
the failures of their own governments, the failures of massive
inflation across Western Europe, and oh, by the way, the
(13:45):
failures of them to defend their borders in the face
of this massive migrant invasion that is absolutely embroiling all
of Western Europe right now. They're raping little girls, they're
killing people, and they say, oh, don't worry about it,
because you know, the real threat is Russia. And so
I think that the minute that this goes away now
(14:05):
all of a sudden, they're going to have to face
their own people. And by the way, that also holds
true for Zelenski, who the minute that martial law is
rescinded in Ukraine, he's going to have to stand for elections,
which yet he has not done since twenty nineteen, and he'll,
like we lose.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
The pulling in Ukraine shows that he will likely be
defeated by either, you know, an alternationalist or a former
member of the military. He has a vested interest in
the war continuing or maybe as part of the piece
deel getting it out, maybe getting a condo in another country.
(14:42):
So I think maybe that may be at play as
well too. I just I have to say something else, Yack,
just to back up on the attacks against not just
Steve Whitcock, but Dan Driscoll, Vice President Vance and whatnot
is there is an element of jealousy here is that
you had the Biden administration full of these highly credentialed
diplomats and people that had served in all the right
(15:03):
posts throughout their career, people like Victoria Newlan, Tony Blanken,
Brett McGirk, and their entire legacy is one of failure
and death and destruction. And here you have guys like
Steve Wikoff who in nine ten months have ended more
wars and ended more suffering and ended more bloodshed than
they did in their entire twenty and thirty years. So
(15:26):
they're jealous. They're jealous of what Steve Wikoff and President
Trump and Vice President Vance and Secretary Rugio and now
Secretary Driscoll are doing. And that is so apparent in
some of these comments to made. I mean, God forbid
you turn on CNN, but you can just see the
acid and the jealousy coming out of these people. And
I think you can't ignore that human element as well too.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Here. Well, no, I think that's true. I would just
add that, you know, you go back to the Obama administration,
which of course Biden played a huge role in, and
all the way back to the event of twenty fourteen,
where you've got again. You just can't separate all of
these things that happened, and people say, why are you
bringing that stuff up? Because you can't separate them from
the history. You can't separate the fact that Biden's son
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was on the board of an energy company in Ukraine
while he was the sitting vice president in the middle
of what a lot of people have called a regime
change operation, certainly something that had folks like John McCain
and Lindsay Graham and others going over there trying to
fan the ammy. Klobashar was over there trying to fan
(16:31):
the flame right with standing on stage with literal Nazis
and people who were mercilessly slaughtering Jewish and Polish villages
in eastern Galatia. You know, during World War Two, these reprisals,
the benderas, and yet you know, we act like, oh, no,
this was just you know, it was just a totally natural,
(16:54):
organic uprising. The United States had nothing to do with it.
And you know, you really have to sit back and
ask the question, you know, when when people in the
area feel that this was provoked, when we do things
like that, they might just have a point.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, absolutely, as you cannot. There's a straight line from
Victoria new and handing out cookies on the midon to
Neo Noxy organizations to what we're dealing with now. It's
a straight line of foreign policy establishment failure. And that
is the world that President Trump walked into, and it's
a world he has to operate in. And this gets
(17:32):
to the most important point is that there is this
delusion that there's this magic set of sanctions and munitions
and arms that you can dump into Ukraine. You can
impose these sanctions on Russia and russiabile, buckle and withdraw
and agree to terms that are more favorable to Ukraine.
That is not reality. And the reality is is that
(17:56):
the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for Ukraine.
And President Trump and his team knows that, and that
is why they are aggressively pursuing this deal. And all
the people that are trying to say that it gives
too much to Russia or it's going to undermine Ukraine's sovereignty,
wait six months, Wait six months, and it is going
to be fundamentally worse for Ukraine and the deal will
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be worse for them.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Then no, the deal's only going to get with the
best deal is the first deal, right, The best deal
is always the first deal. Every single deal since then,
the price goes up and up and up, and not
just terms of concessions, but also in terms of the
amount of men, materiel, manpower and human lives that are
lost every single day on the battlefield of a war
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Campbell slept on a plane again last night, Dan, what
can you do that? I think it's my fourth red
eye in like six days or something. So running down
to the bone here, But Dan Calbell, as we look
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at Fort Campbell, what is the deal with all of
these piece plans we're here? The twenty eight point plan,
the nineteen point plan, the European Plan, the Ukrainian Plan,
the Russian Plan? Is there any one plan? And I
think obviously the answer is that clearly these are ongoing
negotiations and people are trying to get in. So what
(21:47):
are your sense that on that? But then also let's
get into some of these sticking points on the various
iterations of the plans.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
So first of all, my advice to all your listeners
and viewers is is what I was told when I
went as a marine to Iraq, and that is, believe
nothing of what to hear and only half of what
you see. Right now, there is a massive disinformation campaign
going on to try and shape the narrative about these deals,
(22:16):
and you also have the Ukrainians, the Russians, and the Europeans.
They're trying to speak to certain domestic constituencies, and in
the case of the Ukrainians, I believe that they're trying
to save face. Is that a lot of them know
they're going to have to make some tough concessions and
they don't want to give that impression right off the bat.
(22:37):
So there's a lot of people leaking to the various
media outlets and friendly reporters trying to shape a narrative here,
and everybody should be suspicious of that. But ultimately, at
the end of the day, I think that this is
really going to come down to a couple major issues,
And first and foremost, I think the biggest one is
Ukraine's alignment, whether or not it's going to join NATO
(22:58):
or it's going to join the E you either economically
or part of the whole package which includes certain security guarantees,
and then what type of security guarantee is going to
be given to Ukraine and how that is structured. Secondarily
to that is the issue of territory. Is are there
going to be landswaps or is a line of contact
going to be frozen. Are there going to be other
(23:19):
types of deals around territory like a d military zone.
And I think the other big issue is going to
be the size and scope of the Ukrainian military. And
what I just finally say on this is is that
one thing that I would advise everyone is is that
there's going to be some face saving things for both
sides that fall under these buckets. So like the cap
(23:40):
on the Ukrainian army, and my view doesn't really matter
that much if there's a six hundred thousand cap or
an eight hundred thousand cap. The reality is the Ukrainians
are unlikely going to be able to sustain a military
of five hundred thousand, But if there is a cap,
then the Russians can say they got something out of that.
So there's going to be a lot of things like
that playing out, and ultimate at the end of the day,
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where I think those issues are truly going to be
resolved is when when Steve Witkoff and Dangerous and others
get it to a point where President Trump, Zelenski and
Putin are ready to sit down and those it's those
three that are going to ultimately resolve those issues.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, and a big piece of this too, of course,
is the security guarantee, because I've heard, you know one
in one of the drafts I believe it's the European draft,
they're talking about a potential road map for Ukraine to
join NATO, and I came on the program and said, well,
there's no way Russia is going to agree to that.
(24:39):
And that's been their, uh, their sole main sticking point
of any you know, of any agreement. That's why they
launched the war was over this issue. So they're just
not going to agree to that in any situation. They're
going to say, if that's what you're you know, your condition,
We're just going to keep fighting. And then what it
also comes down to this the idea of land swap.
(25:01):
I saw that obviously. Wikoff mentions that in the League transcript,
But at the same time, I haven't really seen any
proposals for Russia to give back any land that they've
taken save that DMZ potentially and done Yetsk.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Correct, and I think they hold small amounts of territory
in Kharkiev and Sumi Province. They probably withdraw from there
and maybe agreed to some type of buffer zone, but
there likely wouldn't be a lot of land given back
on the Russian side. I think that's reality. But Jack,
you're absolutely right about the NATO point. And I think
it's also worth noting too that President Trump repeatedly, going
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back years, has said that Ukraine shouldn't be in NATO
and said exactly what you said, is that this is
one of the main drivers of the war. I was
with Secretary Hegseth back in February where he made very
clear in front of all the NATO defense ministers and
the Ukraine Contact Group that we don't believe that Ukraine
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should join NATO. And so I think that that for
the United States and Russia is a deal breaker. But
for the Europeans, they keep pushing that in my view
because a lot of the members of EU and European
members of NATO, let's just be honest, they want the
war to continue. So they're trying to insert that as
a poison pill to undermine the negotiations and ultimately keep
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this war going on as long as it can for
their own reasons.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Indeed, they do all right, Jack, sobk Dan Calwell right
back Human Events Daily.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Where's Jack?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Where's Jack? Where is he?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Jack?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I want to see you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Great job, Jack, thank you, what a job you do.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
About the fake news and demand, but we have guys,
and these are the guys you're forgetting policies.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
All right, Jack the Cubik. We're back live here Human
Events Daily. We're on Dan Crowball.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know's what's interesting about all of this is you
and I are sitting here and we're chatting during the
break a little bit, but we're having this discussion about
the Ukraine Russia peace deal. We're trying to be very
sober about this, not give you know, not let emotions
or you know, opinions really guard it. Other than this
is analysis, right, This is understanding what the status of
forces is on the ground, understanding what the order of
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battle is, and trying to look at what's in the
best interests of certainly the United States and then you know,
hopefully obviously our allies and partners as well. But that's
not what you get from a lot of people when
you read about this conflict. What you get are these
sweeping statements about legitimacy and credibility and histrionics and shrieking
(28:12):
from you know the neocon crowd, and I guess I
guess my sense of it is, you know, and you know,
having worked in the IC and having worked in DC,
I do try to get us you know this. There's
one school of thought right that says, Okay, it's all cynical,
it's all about money, it's about oil, it's about this
and that. And to be sure, that plays a part,
but I don't know if that it completely answers the question.
(28:34):
I think that a lot of the neocons, they just
actually believe this stuff like it's a religion.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Absolutely. Their religion is American primacy. It is America needs
to not just be the most powerful country in the world,
which we should strive to be, but we need to
dominate the world so we can oppose liberal hegemony. Is
that they believe that ultimately America was founded and obviously
(29:00):
this is the wrong interpretation of America's founding, but that
America was founded with this holy mission to make the
world safe, not you know, for Americans, but for liberalism
as a whole. And so for them, especially over the
last few years, is that Russia Ukraine has become the
(29:23):
central theater in that battle. Never mind the fact that
as the war is dragged on, Ukraine has indisputably become
more illiberal. You know, as you mentioned earlier Zelensky's ruling
under martial law. They're cracking down on media outlets in Ukraine,
They're trying to close certain churches in Ukraine, and they're
press gaining tens of thousands of Ukrainian men and forcing
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them to serve on the front lines by no reasonable measures.
That a symptom of a healthy liberal democracy, not to
mention the recent corruption scandal that is rocking Ukraine. And
so for them, they are so invested in that narrative,
in that mission that if the war ends with anything
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short of a total Ukraine victory, it is going to
shatter a core tenet of their faith. And so that
is driving a lot of this. It's like, it's not
just the military industrial complex wanting to make more money.
In reality, Jack of You've talked about before is military
industrial complex is more work than they can handle. They
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have like seven, eight, ten years worth of backlogs and orders.
So that's not the only motivation here. Definitely people want
to make money off of it. But in the United States,
in the Beltway, there's so many people just invested emotionally
and personally in this that it's like this quasi religious
fervor that really has overtaken their thinking and preventing them
(30:50):
from doing reasonable analysis of this conflict.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm so glad you put it that way. It truly
is the religion of d C. The Bible of the Beltway,
if you will, In the Bible's taught when you're going
through you know, George Ross's University, or you're going through
Georgetown or whatever it is, or any of the you know,
the foreign policy schools, you get taught neo conservatism, neoliberalism,
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and that is your soul. And by the way, that
doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat. You
get taught that this is a central tenet of our faith,
that the United States must be this what they call it,
you know, the global guaranteur, right, the global guaranteur of
the international rules based order. And by the way, Tony
Blincoln would talk about this at length. And this is
(31:36):
one of the reasons that they opposed Trump so much.
Because Trump doesn't play within the rules. He holds these
unilateral calls. He appoints people like Steve Whitcoff, right so
to them they've they viewed Trump. It isn't even just
so much that he's offering, you know, a piece deal
to the Russians. It's the way that he's going about it.
He's not kissing the ring. He's not going through the institutions.
(31:59):
So it's like he's not working through you know, his
diocese and his archdiocese and his bishop and the monsignors
and the cardinals. No, he's he's set up his own
religion and he's trying to do it on his own.
And that's the kind of response you're getting. You're getting
a response of a religion that's trying to drive out
a heretic.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Absolutely. You know, in this case, the cathedrals are places
like Ai, you know, on the right, in Brookings on
the left, which I just have to note the differences
between those institutions aren't much. The same families run the
foreign called, the same family runs the foreign policy program
largely at both institutions. Re Red Kagan at Ai, his
(32:40):
brother Bob Kagan at Brookings, who by the way, is
married to Victoria Newland. So a lot of the as
you pointed out, like the debate really is within the
forty yard lines here and there's not much difference. And
that was the case for you know, nearly thirty years
until Donald Trump comes down the golden escalator in twenty fifteen,
and he just blows it all up, and a lot
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of the anger against him, a lot of the just
over the top rhetoric, and let's be honest, a lot
of the actions by the National security state against him
had been driven by the fact that he's a heretic
in the main religion in DC, and that religion is
liberal hegemony.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And by the way, you know, as I obviously we
see what's going on down in Venezuela or off the
coast of Venezuela, and certainly the president is within his
rights and absolutely within their interest in the United States
to drive out narco terrorists that are affecting our country.
But at the same time, you do hear and you
can feel those wins of liberal higenemy pushing that naval flotilla,
(33:45):
that carrier strike group closer and closer to Venezuela because
they want to drive this out and get us enbrilled
and yet another war the Vietnam of the Tropics, I guess,
right in our own hemisphere. Because this is religious for
of these people.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Right, and and again, as you and I have discussed,
what matters in our own hemisphere is more important than
the negativedual issue of which Eastern European oligarch gets to
loot the don Bos. You know, that's maybe a little
little flippant. Let's just be honest. It's like that doesn't
really matter to our core national It's just true, yes, exactly,
(34:25):
but you know, so we we do. This does matter.
The cartels and other entities in the Western hemisphere are
more of a threat to us, and say the redmnants,
al Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East, but it
is I don't think it's in our interest to conduct
a regime change war and our own hemisphere right now.
We will see what happens there. It looks like President
(34:46):
Trump is maybe backed off and is trying to once
again pursue diplomacy with Maduro. We'll see how that develops.
But it's interesting is that there actually are some people
in the who traditionally are warhawks oppose what is happening
in Venezuela because one, it's President Trump doing it, let's
be honest.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
But also too is.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
That they are more attached to what happens in the
Middle East or in Eastern Europe than our own hemisphere,
because they don't really have an attachment to here at home.
It's attachment to the global project of liberal hegemony. And
so that's why you have Bill Crystal, who's never met
a war he didn't like. I mean, a few years
ago he was talking about making Cuba our fifty first state.
(35:29):
He's raising concerns about doing stuff in Venezuela. And so
that's something I'm starting to see pop up, is people
opposing this and causing for calling for congressional oversight in
Venezuela when they've opposed it for years in Ukraine and
Iraq and Syria in Afghanistan, because for them, it's about
the global project, not what actually matters to us here
(35:52):
in our own backyard.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Right because we're not exactly up against another empire there.
It's not exactly this crossroads of the world, the you
know where East meets West. I mean Ukraine itself. The
name ugur Nitza means at the border, it means borderland.
So it's it's always been this sort of area where
you know, you've seen this clash of empires and of
course we saw that in World War One, we saw
(36:16):
that in World War Two, and we see it yet
again today Napoleonic Wars. It's everyone knows the history, and
if you don't, you should start learning it because you
will be doomed to repeat it. Final minute to you,
Dan Clawwell, and make sure you also give us your
coordinates for where to follow you.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Jack, I just want to say real quickly, you absolutely
need to learn about that history, not just World War Two.
I'd advise everybody to learn about another war besides World
War Two, specifically World War One, but putting that aside.
Where you can find me the most is on X
at Dande Caldwell on X and Jack, thank you for
having me on. I really love this discussion all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And by the way, just to just to get this
out there, because this has been kind of blowing up
on my Twitter feed, I got to know what your
stance on green bean castle roll. Are you four or
are you against? Can green bean cast role be part
of your Thanksgiving dinner?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I have never had green bean cast role as part
of Thanksgiving. That doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. This
is a cop out. Okay, maybe I'd like it maybe not.
That's just not something my family's ever done.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
But okay, but how about in okay, how about in
the abstract in general? Is green bean castle role served
at your table?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
I don't think I've ever I look, you may kick
me off to show I see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Damn, you're coming over. We're having Danner Tanya's making the
castle role. We're gonna twist you on this, man, Absolutely,
I love it. Gonna get you on the team. Hey,
Happy Thanksgiving, brother, They don't be right back you Events.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Jack is a great guy.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
He's written a fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Go get it that.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
He's been my.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Pat We're going to turn her around and make our
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Speaker 1 (38:19):
All right, folks, we're back Jack pasobac here Human Events Daily.
You want to thank Dan Colball for coming on and
giving us that great round Robin Ukraine, Russia, Venezuela. We
kind of hit all of it. The wit coff leagues
we got in there. So Thanksgiving is tomorrow, and we're
obviously very excited about that. I'm very excited about that.
We're going to be We're going to be home Philadelphia area.
(38:42):
I'm probably going to be probably going to be seeing
a football game at some point this weekend, but more
to come on that. And we've got something really exciting
for everybody on so Thanksgiving Thursday, and then of course
Black Friday right after. What we're going to be doing
here on Human Events Daily is taking kind of a
(39:03):
different tack on things. And there's been a few stories
that I've wanted to get to and really just sit
down and devote a lot of time to. And the
biggest one I think, of course that's clearly on my
mind and all of our minds. It's certainly not never
far from my thoughts is the murder of my friend
Charlie Kirk. And we are got the you know, the
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to dig in into the case of Tyler Robinson himself.
(39:47):
Who was this guy? Why did he do what he's
alleged to have done, What was his relationship with Lance Twiggs,
his homosexual boyfriend and then lay trans furry lover and
how did liberalism, furry fetish's pornography and all the rest
(40:11):
of it lead to what we're told is him climbing
up on that roof and taking shots at my friend.
And so we're going to spend two days on this.
We're going to go through leaks that originally were released
by a YouTuber called Turkey Tom and we're going to
(40:33):
talk about it with Liz Wheeler tomorrow and then a Friday,
we've got clinical psychologist, doctor Chloe Carmichael a is going
to join us, and with doctor Chloe, we're actually going
to do a sort of you know, psychoanalysis, psychoanalytical description
of the relationship between these two, what makes them tick,
how one drove the other, and potentially what the motive
(40:55):
may have been. All of this is going to come
out at the trial, by the way, so you know,
we're clearly trying to get a head of that. But
you know, even for my own edification, you know, I
this is how I deal with things, folks. This is
how I when something like this happens. You know, other people,
you know have different processes. My process is this. I
want to know everything. I want to understand it. I
(41:16):
want to get my arms around it. I want to
get my head around it. So that's who we want
to dig into. Last night we played on Thought Crime
some of the footage from last year's Thanksgiving episode, and
it was a really interesting time because I want to
put you into the context of where we were a
year ago Thanksgiving, the last Thanksgiving. So Charlie and I
(41:38):
were down in Florida and we were spending a lot
of time at mar A Lago. It was the transition period.
So it just picture it right the context. Trump has
just won the election, the MAGA movement is ascendant, won
the popular vote, won all the swing states, and you
know you're down there, You're seeing you know, Pete Hegseth
is coming in and then gets anounced he's going to
(42:00):
be Secretary of Defense later Secretary of War. You're seeing
so many people come in through the cabinet. You're seeing
the incredible work of the Trump team as they go
from being the campaign senior staff Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller,
Stephen Chunk, Caroline Levitt, everybody you know going through, Taylor Budovich,
Dan Scavino had so many names, right, And I apologize
(42:21):
for anyone I've met that I may have missed, but
it's it was an incredible time, and you know, Charlie
was on top of the world. He was absolutely on
top of the world. Who does he want to be
in the next government? Elon, of course, is all over
and a lot of late nights just sitting out with
Elon on the terrace at mar A Lago chatting. So
(42:42):
in the middle of all this, we put together a cause,
you know, we're all in great moods, so we put
together this Thought Crime Thanksgiving special and Charlie and I
for once it was just the two of us in
the studio together. And it's just from a personal note,
one of my one of my favorite times that we
did the show, and probably my favorite episode. I'm going
(43:06):
to go have to say and it's my favorite episode,
and I want to play a clip of that for
you right now, because it was not us just agreeing. No,
we got into it and I held Charlie's feet to
the fire, so by the way, By the way, I
don't want to throw my mom under the bus because
every single year, and I know she's gonna watch this
every single year post that there's like a selection of
pumpkin pies that is always available the way it must be.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
By the way, do you think that pecan pie can
also make an appearance?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Can be there, but pumpkin and the can pie.
Speaker 7 (43:35):
I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie. However, I must
have a slice of pumpkin pie. Wait, wait, were you
always like that though when you were little? My mom
makes a killer pecan pie, like destroys the world.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, what about when I was younger, I was.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Always pumpkin But then well, now we're getting into chocolate
pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And that's where you just surrender. You're just done at that.
It's just so you throw you throw it because guys,
you know, folks that don't know Charlie, you're usually pretty
strict with your diet. You're strict. It's like you're usually alone.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
Thanksgiving is different Thanksgiving all in.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So that's that's us one year ago. That's me and
Charlie in studio, and uh, you know, I gotta say,
just look, no, hate for pea campie. All right, I
like pea campie. I'm not against pea campie, but it's
not better than pumpkin, all right, It's just not better
than pumpkin. But to his credit, Charlie did admit that
pumpkin pie is required for Thanksgiving. And in fact, we
(44:35):
put together and if you guys want to go watch
the episode, it's up on on Charlie Kirk's podcast, and
you can get it on Human Events Daily as well.
We're gonna be re airing a lot of this. We
put together Charlie Kirk's entire Thanksgiving menu, and so I want,
I want everyone to go and check that out. So
it's got you know, turkey is required, Turkey with gravy stuffing,
(44:57):
and he gives out an entire recipe for stuffing, Cranberry's
straight from the can, no alterations, by the way to
the can, sweet potatoes, but no marshmallows. Charlie believed that
marshmallows were kind of a new age thing and they're
not really part of it. And then yes, you cap
it all off with that commandment, and what he said
(45:18):
was the first commandment of Thanksgiving, thou shalt have pumpkin pie,
great dinner, great meal. I didn't know that. I remember
going into the episode. I don't even think we were
planning to talk about Thanksgiving or maybe just we were
going to talk about like what we did. And I
had no idea that Thanksgiving was such an important holiday
for Charlie and something that he took so incredibly seriously.
(45:41):
But it was cool to see that this really was
a big holiday for him. And you know, I'll just
say this that, you know, you saw that video of
him talking about his mom making such a what he said,
a killer pea campie, and I hope that she's making
it again this year and that she continues to serve
it because it was her son's favorite favorite pie. But
(46:06):
you got to also have the pumpkin pie as well.
Can't break the first commandment of Thanksgiving. So I know
that all of us are going to be thinking about
Charlie a lot during the holidays, and what can I say,
it is kind of hitting me a little more. I
do also have, oh it's over there, the new book.
(46:27):
So this is a copy of the new book that
Charlie is going to be putting out comes out December ninth.
I want to give some promo. It's called Stop in
the Name of God. It's about how Charlie would take
one day a week off of social media and focus
on family, focus on God, focus on reading. So taking
that one day off Stopping the Name of God. And
(46:48):
the forward is done by Erica Kirk. So got my copy? Really,
I really want to say thank you to everybody for
getting the early copy of this. We're going to be
check it out this weekend, of course over Thanksgiving, and
if you guys want to get a copy of it
as well, you guys can go ahead and pre order
that right now. And you know, from the Posto family
(47:11):
to all of yours, have a happy Thanksgiving. Think of
what you're thankful for. Be thankful for the things that
you have, because you could lose them in an instant.
And I'll just say this, folks that for this Thanksgiving
at our table, we're going to be leaving a chair
empty for Charlie as a reminder, not that he's gone,
(47:36):
but a reminder that he's with us, celebrating Thanksgiving up
in heaven with Rush and all the heroes, because that's
where Charlie is right now. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,
you have my permission to lay shore
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