JONI TABLE TALK, JUNE 8TH, 2025

SEGMENT 1: Brittni De La Mora shares how God's grace can turn brokenness into beauty and redemption for all from her book, A Call to Purity.
SEGMENT 2: Dale and LuAnne Mast share how God unlocked King David's calling through identity and faith, with insights from the book \u201cAnd David Perceived He was King.
 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Well, from the adult film industry to drug addiction. Our
guest is here to share her powerful journey to redemption
and wholeness through God's grace from her book, A Call
to Purity, Living a.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Lifestyle of Purity.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But before we get to that, joined me around the
table is Cindy Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
How are you hey, I'm doing well. Thank you always,
good to see my friend. Yes, it's a blessing to
be with all of you, ladies. You know, we love
having you.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Dorothy Newton, are we going to say what you look
like today?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It looks like a pure bride.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
She looks like she's getting married today. I am married to
christ always.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, you look beautiful. Rachel Brown, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, I'm excited about today's story. It's a it's a true,
truly remarkable transformation.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
And I love how our.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Guest today is using the pain that she went through
and she's turning it for her purpose and helping so
many other people and a very specific kind of niche industry.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, because we talk some about
addiction and but especially those that have been addicted to
pornography were and we're going to really hit on that
subject today.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Rebecca Lamb wife, Hello, are you twin? We're matched, aren't we?
We are? We are Hey.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
I'm happy to be here. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think this is such an incredible story and I
love this topic.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So let's get into it, all right. Cindy Murdoch, how
are you? I'm good? Thank you.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm grateful that we're going to do a program that
can expose the side of this that oftentimes people don't
realize how dark. Yeah, this side of that lifestyle that
our guests lives.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. And Britney de Lamore is here. Ye, so good,
you're at the table.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
As beautiful as ever. I just see the glory of
God on you and it's such a blessing. Well, you know,
the call to freedom is for everyone, regardless of what
we've done or where we are in life. Britney de
Lamore is an author and advocate, here to share how
God can restore even our darkest moments, turning them into

(02:52):
powerful stories of hope. Let's start at the beginning, and
first of all, thank you for having her to share
your story. Thank you, because I mean, you've now been
out of that lifestyle for years and years and years,
and a lot of people would say, like, I'm not
ever going to talk about it again, But you're actually
just like Rachel is talking about, you're taking the pain

(03:14):
that you went through and you've turned it. God will
take what the enemy meant for evil and turn it
for good. And he's doing that in your life, and
you're seeing people set for you all over. Yeah, I mean,
just exposing what's going on in the world, yep.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
And I mean I tried to not share my story.
I tried to live in shame and hide, and it
was a conviction from the Holy Spirit, you know, And
I feel as though it's a mandate. And even when
I've tried to shy back and not share, it's just
I have no peace. I have none like I have
to share my story, and then to see the testimonies
that come from it, of women leaving behind the sex industry,

(03:49):
of men saying after hearing your story, I can't watch
pornography anymore. I get so convicted. So all of those
stories just make it so worth it.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, let's go back to the beginning and talk about
kind of your first four way if you will, into
doing something that kind of opened the door for you
to get involved in this and what was that?

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Well, I mean, starting at childhood, it was just an
emotionally broken household, which many adult performers go through, either
overly religious or verbally abusive. And so from there I
started looking for love and all the wrong places. I
got cheated on with the guy that I lost my
virginity to at sixteen years old, and from there I
was just crushed. And my friend said, well, let's go

(04:31):
to Mexico. Let's party, and so we go to Mexico.
It was the first time I ever remember getting drunk.
I walk out to go get some food. I see
another club, and this club I recognize the name of
it because some of the guys in my high school
class would talk about it and they'd say, oh, the
girls are so beautiful there, and I'm like, what do
these girls have? Like, why are they so beautiful? Oh,

(04:52):
don't worry about it as boys stuff. So, of course,
me being insecure, broken, never hearing that I'm beautiful, I'm like,
I want to know what they have. I'm just going
to go check it out. So I walk over across
the way. I give the bouncer my high school idea.
He's like, no, you can't come in here. And I'm like, oh,
come on, I don't want to drink. I just want
to dance. He said, you want to dance. He grabs
me by the hand and he takes me behind. It

(05:13):
was like two or three other women walking up a
stairwell and I saw two other women that were dancing
on stage, and I'm like, oh, this is a strip club.
And I had a broken heart and I had like
when you were drinking and exactly, I had that liquid courage,
and so I said, you know what, I'm going to
just kind of follow behind these women and do what
they do. And I kind of followed them, and I

(05:34):
took my top off that night. I look so young.
I blonde hair braces, and the people in the audience
were telling me you're beautiful, we love you.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Woo.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
They're cheering me on. And what you don't get out home,
you'll look for in the outside world. And I found
a place of validation that day. It was the biggest
deception of the enemy that if you take your clothes off,
not only are you going to be praised, but people
are going to pay you. So that was what led
and then going into call, I started dancing again. A
couple of producers came in.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Once when you're saying dancing, was that at a stripping okay?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And so you were getting money? Yeah, a lot of money. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Once I was in college, I was wow.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And so you're in college, but you're doing that on
the weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Actually, I'd go to school three days a week and
then I would dance the same nights that I was
in school, so then I could sleep in and do
my homework that following day. I kind of had a
rhythm going.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So a couple of producers came in and said, we're
going to make you famous.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yes, they said, you are going to be famous. You're
going to be a star. We make romance movies. If
you're ever interested, give us a call. And when they
said when they promised me fame, I always wanted to
have fame as a little girl because I thought that
if enough people knew my name, if enough people loved me,
then somehow that would make me stop hating myself so much.

(06:51):
And so when they said that, I was like, I'm
in And I went to LA the next day and
they put me in hair and makeup, sent me over
to an agency and I was in that industry for
a total of seven years.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Did you know what you were getting into that? Because
I mean romance. Romance doesn't sound to me like porn.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, I think I knew exactly what they were talking about. Yeah,
I mean I'm in a strip club. They said romance movies.
We'd had had other porn stars come into the club
to do what was called feature dancing, where they were
like the you know, the star of the night, and
so I was pretty confident that they were talking about pornography.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So talk a little bit about your state of mind
in doing this and getting involved in this. What what
kind of addictions then did you begin to try to
numb the pain with to be able to perform.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I was very broken and insecure getting into the business,
and you know, battled with anorexia in high school. And
when I started recording filming porn, there was a producer
that told me you're so fat, you need to lose weight.
And I was not. I was like, you know, hundred
and five pounds, five feet tall. I wasn't fat, and
so I started using cocaine to lose weight, and instantly

(08:01):
I became hooked because I didn't realize how much pain
shooting porn was causing me until I was able to
numb that pain. And so from the cocaine it went
to prescription pills and then eventually to heroin and crystal meth.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And so talk a little bit about the darkness of
where this is being shot, what's happening behind the scenes
that people who watch porn will never know.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Oh my goodness, I've seen some horrible things. I have
seen women doing sexual acts being recorded, and then they
just start crying because of the trauma they're experiencing. And
the directors are looking around at each other like do
we cut? Like should we just keep going? And then,
you know, in this particular time, they just kept shooting,
waiting for her to just kind of figure it out.

(08:50):
I have seen women just pound back bottles of alcohol.
I myself had to get high. I got high with
many other performers just to do the scenes. It's not
an industy that is glamorous, it's not an industry that
is empowering whatsoever. And they just don't show you the
dark side of porn. Unfortunately, the average age of an

(09:11):
adult performer their life expectancy is just thirty five and
a half years old.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Over the last several years, I have lost friends that
I was very close to, some that I was even
ministering Jesus to that I had hopes that they were
going to get out, and unfortunately they didn't. They lost
their life to overdose and to suicide and some to AIDS.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
But now, looking back, you know, do you understand there
was demonic activity going on in these places and darkness
that you know, even demonic powers that you couldn't see that.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Were at work. Oh?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, absolutely. The porn industry is a very dark spirit.
I remember one time in particular, I wasn't very spiritually
sensitive then, but I had received Jesus as my Lord
and Savior and then ended up getting back into the
an industry with a pimp. And I'll never forget the
day where I walked past a woman and I felt
like and I told I told the pimp at the time,

(10:08):
I'm like, I felt like a spirit walked into me.
Like I just can't even explain it. I still to
this day don't know what it was, but I just
physically felt it, and so I know that there and
then I've gone to porn conventions as I've left the
industry to go minister and to send up give bibles
out to porn performers and addicts. And it's a very

(10:30):
spiritually heavy industry, like we have to be preyed up
and fasting and going through warfare just to be able
to be there, because it is it is heavy.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, so here you are, you're doing the films. How
long were you doing that until you were like, I
don't want to do this anymore, and you just really
were searching for something to fill that void on the
inside of you.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, I really was. There came a day where I
had gotten in a fight with a pimp and the
Holy Spirit told me to grab his phone and call
my mom. And at that time my mom and I
we have a wonderful relationship now, but at that time
I just felt like I can't call her. And the
Holy Spirit said, humble yourself and call your mom, And
so I listened to the Holy Spirit and I called

(11:16):
her and she showed up within about twenty minutes, picked
me up and helped me to get away from the pimp.
And then I'd been giving him all my money for
those three and a half years, so I had no
money and I had to go film. What would become
my very last porn scene. But before I left for
the airport, I heard the Holy Spirit say, bring your Bible.
So I bring my Bible. And I'm on the airplane

(11:36):
reading Revelation chapter two, verse twenty through twenty three, and
I'm paraphrasing it says, I have this thing against you.
You tolerate that woman named Jezebel. I have given her
time to repent of her sexual immorality. If she doesn't repent,
I will cast her her children, all who commit immorality
into a sick bed along with her. And I'm like, wow,
I'm on my way to film a porn scene, leading

(11:58):
people into sexual immorras. And I started crying on the
airplane and having an internal dialogue, a conversation with God.
I'm just like, I am so sorry, Lord, I'm Jezebel,
like I'm leading people into sin. You've given me time
to repent. I received you as my Lord and savior.
I hate the life that I'm living. And I felt

(12:20):
the grace of God. I just felt his presence fall
on me, and he just said, Brittany, I love you
so much. This is not the life that I have
for you. The life that I have for you will
overflow with so much love and peace and joy. And
if you would just quit this industry today, I would
bless your life like no man ever could.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So that was your real that was your real turn.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
That was the real turning point.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And you knew that beyond what was going to happen,
that you were never going to do it again. Exactly
exactly well, your life was transformed, but God wasn't through
with you.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Before we get into what would happened and how you
make your husband and how you came together, I want
you to just look in the camera and encourage someone.
There's kind of two groups of people here. There's someone
that is involved in a similar industry that Brittany was
involved in. And you stop to watch just because you
heard what we were going to be talking about. He thought,

(13:18):
I'm just going to listen to what they have to say.
God is meeting you today right where you are, because
He loves you so very much. And Brittany can tell
you even about how to get in touch with their
ministry and they can help you. But I'm just the
first step is just to invite Jesus in. I mean,

(13:39):
he will not leave you He will not forsake you,
and so you have to understand that when you pray
that prayer, he comes inside and not only forgives you,
but he you know, you become a new creature in
Christ Jesus, and everything changes.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
God wants to do that for you today.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
There's also a group of people watching and you love God,
but you're watching porn.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean you watch it all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Nobody knows it, but you watch it, and you've connected
yourself and opened a window into this darkness. It's affecting
your family, your friends, it's affecting your relationship with your
husband or wife. And God is saying I want to
set you free. Would you talk to both of those groups,
Brittany right now?

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, if you are in the adult film industry or
you're on only Fans or any of the adult content platforms.
Just like Jonie said, receiving Jesus as your Lord and
savior is the first step. Really, the first thing that
I did was receive Jesus as my Lord and savior,
and then little by little he started pursuing me. And
I was still in porn for three years after that happened.

(14:43):
And so that really is the first step. But if
you really want to go all out for Jesus, if
you want to see him transform your life, then it
takes getting into his presence on a daily basis. I
want you to get yourself a Bible, start reading the
New Testament, allow God to speak to you, get into
a church that believes in the Bible, that preaches the Bible,
and allow God to transform your life. Because whatever you're

(15:05):
searching for in the outside world, you are not going
to find it. I looked for everything like I searched
through drugs and sex and alcohol and money, and I had,
you know, acquired a little bit of fame, and none
of it was enough. It all left me feeling empty.
My mental health was a mess. And if you're struggling
with anything today, Jesus really can get you through it.

(15:28):
All he asks is that you believe in Him and
that you call upon His name, and He will begin
to transform your life. You're not alone. You can also
reach out to me Love Alwaysministries dot com. If you
are in the adult industry, I will mentor you personally
and I will help you to get out of the business.
You are not alone. And if you're struggling with pornography,

(15:49):
I want you to know that you're not alone. Even
if you're a Christian and you think I'm the only
one struggling. Covenantize released statistics. It said that thirty percent
of women in church watch porn. That's seventy percent of
men in church watch porn, and that fifty percent of
pastors and leaders in church watch porn. Those numbers are alarming.
It is truly an epidemic that is taking over even

(16:11):
the church. But I share those statistics with you so
that you know that you're not alone and that you
can't ask for help. Don't stay silent in your sin,
don't stay ashamed, because that's where the enemy wants you,
because he wants to keep you bound. So if you
don't have anybody, you don't have a church community, you
can send us an email on our website Love Alwaysministries
dot com. We have people available that will pray for

(16:31):
you and we want to be able to be there
for you as well. We also have free resources on
our website and we have books and courses, so please
take a dive in. You're not stuck. We are seeing
thousands of people get set free from porn and it
really is an incredible thing and I'm believing that that
is going to be you, that porn is going to
be a thing of your past.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Amen. Okay, So here you are. You have gotten free.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
You're in church, you're reading the Bible, you can hear
the voice of God speaking to you. Finally, you have
finally found peace after all these years. And you're in
church and you're dating someone, but you're dating the wrong
person even though he's in church.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
So talk a little bit about what happened.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
So, right after I left the industry, men were my
weakness and this guy hits me up on Facebook and
I'm like, oh, I recognize him from high school. So
I saw that he had scriptures on his page and
that's what drew me in. I said, Hey, do you
go to church? And he's like I do. I said,
could you take me to church? So we go to
church together, kind of as our first date. We just
started dating really early on and hooking up and I

(17:33):
started getting convicted and I'm like, hey, God doesn't want
us to be having sex and he's like, no, God
doesn't care about that. And then I'm looking for a
job and he's like, why don't you just like go
work at the strip club? You're not like having sex
or like go work at like Hooters or something. I'm
like no, like I can't. I can't do that, like
I have a conviction against that. And then when I
heard this message that my now husband was preaching at

(17:55):
the young adult service. He was saying, like, ladies, I
have a word for you right now. I want you
to know that you are a woman of God, that
you are worthy of real true love, and you are
worth the weight. And if your man isn't treating you
as a woman of God, he needs to step up
or step out show him the exit sign, because you're
worthy of real true love and you're worth the weight.
So I immediately went home and broke up with that guy,

(18:17):
and I said, Jesus, I'm going to commit myself to
you for a year, Like I mean obviously for a lifetime,
but I want to be single for a year. That
was a long time for me. It ended up being
two years, and every day I just started seeking Jesus
through prayer and worship and reading the Bible, and I
would fast. I didn't even make a lot of money,
so I didn't even have the Internet, so it was
literally just like me and Jesus no distractions.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No social media.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Got rid of all your social media and from your
previous Linde exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you had thousands and thousands of.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Hundreds of thousands of followers. Yeah, there was. I had
a lot of across all my social media platforms, and
I just deleted at all because, you know what, it
just wasn't worth the temptation or the risk of maybe
going back. Like, I really repented, and I wanted my
life to reflect that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Okay, So then what happened? When did Prince Charming come along?
She was really big on that he's.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Such a special man. He's an incredible man of God.
So I had caught feelings for him pretty early on,
but didn't say anything to anybody but my sister because
she's like my best friend. And about two years after
I made the year or the vow to God to
stay single, he asked me out and we went on

(19:29):
a date. We went and saw a movie Fault in
our Stars, and we just had a casual little lunch
and you know, and then after that he told me
that he liked me and that he'd like to pursue
dating me, and we dated for about nine months, got engaged,
and then you got yourself pure. Yes, we did not
have sex until our wedding night.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
What what was that like, I mean having a relationship
for nine months? Yeah, I mean that had to just
build your confidence in who God is and who He's
created you to be and what he wants your identity
to be.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Yeah, you know, I loved I loved it, like because
I was able to get to know my husband for
his heart and his mind, and I'd never got that
opportunity in any other relationship. And sex is really binding.
Even inside of a marriage. That's great, right, because it
helps you overlook offenses and things like that. But outside
of a marriage, you start overlooking all these red flags

(20:19):
because you're binding yourself to them spiritually. And so even
though it's like get out of here, you don't see it,
you just stay stuck because you're having sex with the person.
And that's exactly what happened to me and all my relationships,
but with my husband would when little things would come up,
We're able to process those, pray over them, and like
heal from those things, you know, versus like I'm just

(20:42):
gonna overlook it because we're having sex when clearly there's
things I mean, he didn't have any toxic traits, but
you know, little things that we still had to grow
and heal from because we're all on a journey.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
And he so could have taken advantage of the fact
of your past life.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, but he never would.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
But the fact that he respected you and honored you, Like,
what did that do for your self?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Stay?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
He was? Yeah, I mean, he's the first man that
never tried to sleep with me. But it wasn't It
was because he wanted to honor God, you know. And
he loves God more than he loves me. And I
love that about him. Every morning he's up in his
office at four am spending time with Jesus. And he's
an incredible man of God. He's a great leader, he's
a wonderful father. But that all comes because of his

(21:21):
relationship with Jesus.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
And so how many kids now we have two and
tell me about him quickly?

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Oh, they're incredible. I got a five year old and
I got my wild child she's almost three.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I love it. I love it. And of course I'm
gonna let y'all jump in here.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
But a call to purity, Why did you write this book?
Because you're not just talking about purity in the area
of sexual sense.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Right, you're talking about a pure.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Heart, yes, all one eighty around in every area of
our life exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
So many people think that purity is just for young
people or for singles, but no, purity is really our hearts,
a condition of our heart, because purity means to be uncontaminated.
So we really felt a call to write this book
to redefine purity. The call originally came in twenty twenty
when everybody was washing their hands because of COVID, and
God spoke a word so clearly to my husband and I.

(22:15):
He said, everyone's so concerned with washing their hands, but
I want them to wash their hearts. And so we
wrote this book as a mandate from God, encouraging the
body of Christ to wash their hearts. And what soap
and water is to our hands, God's presence is to
our hearts. And so that's what this book is about.
It's about getting your relationship right with the Lord so
that he can flow in your life. I mean proverbspore

(22:37):
twenty three. Above all else, guard your heart because it
determines the course of your life. And so when we're
not guarding our hearts, I mean, the enemy can lead
us astray. But when we guard our hearts and we're
going to walk into everything that God has for us.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
When you think about the woman at the well, or
you think about the prostitute that Jesus dealt with, you know,
he had such compassionate love and showed I mean, had
they repented, they wanted a change, you know, they'd been
caught up in a lifestyle whatever. He had such compassion
and grace for that. The religious people, on the other hand,

(23:14):
he called vipers. Yes, and you're talking about heart issues,
religious people, people who accused, people who judge. That is
one of the most dangerous heart heart postures you talk
about that.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, we do because you know what Jesus says, woe
do you hypocrites? You clean the outside of the cup,
But if you clean the inside of the cup, then
the outside will be cleaning as well. And what he's
saying is that when your heart is pure, your actions
will be pure. Christianity is not about a performance. We're
not called to just look holy. We're called to be holy.
And so yeah, there's so much judgment, so much criticism,

(23:52):
so much performance, and Jesus is calling us to live
a free life. And unfortunately the Pharisees were bound and
they didn't even recognize it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
They didn't even look at their own heart.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, truly, I was going to ask you about porn
because it's such an epidemic, like you said, even in
the church. Why do you think that is and what
do you think is the solution?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
That is such a good question. I think that pornography
is anonymous. It is available, easily available, and it's accessible.
Anybody can look at it from their cell phone, from
their home. You don't even have to pay for a
subscription anymore.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I'm fighting for age verification because you don't even have
to show your idea. You can just click I'm eighteen
inter And it's something that people can do in such secrecy.
And people are looking for an escape, but that escape
does not lead to freedom. And so when people are
looking for pornography, it's either like porn is the fruit,
but hurt is the root. So there is something going

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on in their hearts where they face rejection. They're hurting.
It's just like with alcoholism or drugs, why do people
turn to that to numb their pain? And so people
turn to pornography to numb their pain. Porn Pornography really
is like a drug because it triggers in our brain
the same amount of dopamine release as a line of cocaine,
So it really is like a drug.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
What would your advice be to parents since porn is
reaching children at such a young age, how do they
handle that situation?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, this is so hard because nowadays it's not if
your child will see porn, it's when your child will
see porn. And that's why our organization is fighting so
hard for age verification. I mean, ultimately we'd love to
see the pornography industry get shut down. But the best
thing that parents can do to do their due diligence is,
you know, keeping your kids off of smartphones.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
There are covenant eyes.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Covenant eyes, Yeah, you can do that if you want
to have your child on internet access, so you can
do that to block things from coming in. But there's
also like the light phone where there's no internet access
and there's other apps that can protect them. But having
age appropriate conversations is the best thing because the reality
is parents, if you do your due diligence, unfortunately other

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parents are not, so the conversations are going to be
the game changer. That way, you protect them so that
if they do stumble upon it, they know exactly what
to do.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Wow, well, we are out of time, But I want
you to remember that if you're in a place a brokenness,
God can redeem you. He can restore you, he can
heal you, just like he did Brittany. Really, all of
us sitting at the table, that's what He's done in
all of our lives. Our story isn't her story, but
we all have a story. The Bible says all have
sinned and come short of the glory of God. But

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you know what, the fact that God's love and purity
is available to anyone is really the message here that
we're trying to talk about. So I don't care what
you've done, where you've been, what you've done. God loves
you today and you just have to say, Jesus, I'm
into my heart forgive me.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I want to make you lord of my life.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And I'm willing to give you an opportunity to do
something in my life.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
And He'll come in. He'll change your life.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
And some of you just feel the presence of God
right there you are. You feel like something you've never
felt before. That's the Holy Spirit saying, we love you
and we want you. And like Brittany said, she felt
the presence of God actually chasing after her.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
He loved her so much. He loves you that much.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Well, if you need prayer today, or if you pray
that prayer invited Jesus in, there's a prayer line number
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I want to thank Brittany for joining us. To get
a copy of her book and the devotional and know
more about her ministry, visit Love Alwaysministries dot com.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You heard what she said.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you've been involved in the sex industry, go to
that website. They will make contact with you and help you. Okay,
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Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all major platforms.
But I want to thank Brittany for being here, Thank
you ladies for being here, Thank you so much for watching.
I'm excited about what God has for you in the
days of heads.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
So you just lean on him and say, Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Jesus, we're going to do this and you're going to
be amazed at what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
We'll see you next time. By by One's.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Day well, from a lonely shepherd boy rejected by his

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family to a mighty king who changed history. Today's guest
shares how true identity unlocked King David's calling and shaped
his destiny. But before we get to that, join me
around the table is April, and I love the story
of David is probably one of my favorite.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Bible one of mine too, and I can't wait to
get into it. Like our guess, it's going to bring
us into it today because it's going to just wake
us up to who we are in Christ.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's right, that's important.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
It is, it's everything.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
So many young people don't know or have an identity
exactly and A Kendall how are you.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Oh, I'm just great.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
And today's show is going to change people's lives.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yes, yes, and he told me you love to come
to the table.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It just makes you feel better.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
It does administers to my soul.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yes, I just love being here.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Rachel Lamb Brown, how are you?

Speaker 5 (29:41):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I love this story of David.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
He is still, you know, dirty from working in the
field when he was called to be king.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Which is cool because you.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Might still be dirty wherever you're at, from wherever you're working.
But just know that God is people and who knows
where you are.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You don't stay quite as clean out in the field
of the sheep, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So Rebecca Lamb, how are you? I'm good?

Speaker 7 (30:02):
I love this guest. I love this book.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I actually have this book on my kindle on my phone, so.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
It's an amazing It is a life changing subject.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
For sure. I love that. Cindy Murdock, how are you?
I'm good?

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Thank you? This is people. It will change, It will
change people's lives. So hear this today, Well, all the way.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
From the cold state of Delaware, we have Dell and
Leuenn masked at the table. Welcome, Yes, glad to be here.
It's so good to have you guys here. Well, you know,
the battle for identity began in Eden, but God's heart
has always been to restore us as his sons and daughters.
With Dell and lu Ane mast join us to share
how King David's life powerfully illustrates this truth and why

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God is still raising up giant slayers today.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
And David perceived he was king.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Talk a little bit about why you wrote the book
and kind of how it came to fruition.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Ruition.

Speaker 10 (30:55):
Well, first of all, when I read that, it sort
of stunned me. I said, David perceived he was king.
That means his king, but it's not yet setting in
his identity.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
And if you do not have your.

Speaker 10 (31:08):
Identity set, it affects your proficiency of what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
So you actually have to believe that's what you are. Now.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
If a thief was to break into this place and
I was to stop him, I would be a hero.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
If there's an undercover.

Speaker 10 (31:23):
Policeman and he did not do it, he would be
in trouble because for me it would be an act
of faith. For him, it's identity and it's his assignment.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
It's his responsibility.

Speaker 10 (31:35):
And so when we understand identity actually is an area
of responsibility, not just an anointing. So in it each
of you carry an identity and then God will tap you.
And if you step in to they assignment that matches
your identity, you will experience a greater anointing, grateful fruit,

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greater fruitfulness.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
And this is the deal.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
If, like Joni, if you don't step into the next
season of your identity, there will be other people that
will not make it because you did not do your part.
My destiny is not for me to win. That's the
first part. I have to win. But greatness is when
you help other people win. And so David went into greatness.
Not only did he kill Goliath, he raised up mighty

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men and gave them vision. But you have to win
to help other people win. So these are just some
of the secrets that are in David's life. And because
God said he restored the tabernacle of David and Amos
and an axe, that tells me God's going to raise
up a generation that is after his heart. And when

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they're after his heart, we will naturally do the right things.
I'm not after my ministry I'm after the fame of God,
and being after his fame then allows me to carry
greater responsibility. I'll I'll just say this a thought and
I'll throw it out there until you have an older
brother accusing you of had having a wicked heart.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You've never stepped out like David.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
That's true because for them to do it, it would
be for promotion.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
For David to do it, it was for the glory
of God.

Speaker 10 (33:16):
But the very one that God looked at his heart
and said, you're looking on the outside the warrior, but
on the inside.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
He isn't right. People will judge you according to their heart.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So true.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
An interesting thing is.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
You know, when I was writing my first book, Surrender All,
I got a profound statement that I love that I
can't claim credit for. It goes along with just what
you said. And the Lord said to me I was
writing one morning. He said, did you know, Joni, that
your lack of surrender will have a profound effect on
those who are destined to be connected to your purpose?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And that's what you were just now saying.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I mean, if you can't realize and walk in the
identity that God has given you the purpose that He's
given you many times it will affect a plethora of
people around you that he wanted to use and be a.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Part of that.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Exactly.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
I'll never forget when God said to me, he said, Dale,
He said, you and me could go places, but you
don't agree with me about you. And I said, what,
I thought it was the devil stopping me. I thought
it was other people that didn't appreciate my gift. He said, Odell,
you don't agree with me about you's w And what
I realized, I said, Lord, just show me what I

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think about myself that you don't agree with. So every
time God spoke to somebody in the Bible, he would
talk more about.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Their identity than who he was.

Speaker 10 (34:37):
So Moses knew God was a deliverer, but he didn't
believe God could do it through him, right, Okay, So
God had to change Moses's opinion of himself. And so
every time God talks to you, it's really changing more
of you to the way he sees you. And I remember,
he's a father, and until you start looking like him,
you're not connected enough. And until you start acting like him.

(35:00):
So this is what I say. Because we serve a
great God, he deserves a great glory, but only happen
if you do a great thing.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's so good.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Now, tell us just a little bit of your own
story because it connects with David, and that you could
relate to David from a scripture that you read that
really impacted you about David and really kind of helped
you understand your life a little bit better.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Yes, so, and I want to give this rundown of
and then my experience. David was a shepherd who was
a musician, who was a warrior who led the army,
but in that.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
He was overlooked by his father, left with a few sheep.

Speaker 10 (35:43):
When he became a warrior, Saul became jealous of him.
The armies he led turned around and chased him. When
he was supposed to have a wife, that was taken
away from him. Everything that David accomplished was taken away.
In that scripture says that God had established him. Sometimes
we go through loss multiple times, and really what God

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is wanting to develop in us that our confidence is
in Him, not what we have, and he'll allow things
like I remember one time I was a leader in
this organization and there was a program brought out and
I went to the leader and I said, you know,
this is a fortune five hundred has many good aspects,

(36:24):
but this is not really it doesn't help pastors. I
can't really implement the pastors that are under me. And
so what happened. I said, I'll offer you my resignation,
and that was taken. And then when I blessed that
person now, and I said, Lord, why I was expecting
them to open up my future. And God said to me, said, Dale,

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if they would have done it, you would have never
elevated to the level because they cannot do for you
what I wanted. And because you were looking to them,
I had to make it fail because I'll have no
other gods before me.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's so good.

Speaker 10 (37:00):
And so when you start thinking your pattern for success,
God will burn the ladder because he'd like to drop
on from heaven.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
So you know you were talking earlier a lot about
honor and how that was such an important part of
who David was and that would elevate him in the
midst of so many trials and storms that he went through.

Speaker 10 (37:20):
So the thing is, David, now you think about this
King Saul. You're leading worship, and he takes a spirit
and tries to run you through. I mean, this is
not your average Sunday morning service. A demon comes on him,
and you know David had already killed Golith. He could
have pulled that thing out and killed Saul right there, Yes,

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but he knew that's what made If he would have
killed Saul, he'd have.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Been a Saul.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
What you refuse to do is what makes you different anybody.
He could have pulled it out and killed him, but
what he did was and even the second time, he
came back and worshiped again. And can you imagine now
you're worshiping going, I think I'm watching him when I said,
and so, what he did he honored King Saul, but
he never trusted him, but he honored him. He never

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put King Saul down. And unless you understand that, actually
David and Saul had a very great relationship, you'll never
understand the hurt that it brought. So for me, there
was I had repeated father situations. Actually even with my
own father, who was a businessman, successful in everything he touched,
became a pastor of early charismatic movement because he was

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a leader. But now he was raised by an orphan,
my grandfather, So he didn't want to be a pastor,
and so that I became the pastor, and the church
doubled in the first six months when he pastored it.
Every year it went through a church split. It's like
you ever been those things where you're crying, like, my God,
what's going on? I thought we were in the spirit.
I thought everything was going to be wonderful. All hell's

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breaking loose? Did I read where there's something in the
Bible I'd missed?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
You know, we did. We missed a lot.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
But anyway, but so through it, my father actually confessed
to me, almost in the edge of a nervous breakdown,
that he was jealous of me.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (39:09):
And you know, I want people to know that the
relationship was restored before he.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Went to heaven, and that was good.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
But the thing that happened was he said to me, said, Dale,
I'll take the church building and you keep the people.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
And so with.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
Fifty dollars in a church where my father had actually
telled people to leave, and I was ready to leave
and go to Iowa, and God said you're going to stay.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I can't get the whole story, it's in my book, but.

Speaker 10 (39:42):
Through it I learned to honor God above my own
soul and It delivered me from this orphan spirit and
I started learning God as my father, how do.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
You honor somebody who doesn't honor you.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Well, this is the.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
A building that was worth over half a million. I
released my father and with fifty dollars, God said goodbye land.
We ended up buying land and that land turned into
five million.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (40:15):
And because I never put my dad in the book,
he's now with the Lord. Because I didn't want to
dishonor him. Yes, and I never brought it up as
an issue, just and God restored it. Actually leu Ann
was part of the restoration. But my father actually before
he suffered dementia, but he actually prophesied over us of how.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
We would go around the world.

Speaker 10 (40:39):
And my father blessed me before he went to heaven
in an incredible way.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Way.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
We know, Lewyne.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
We were talking earlier about even how you struggled with
this and just some of the things that you went through.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Even judgments.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Talk a little bit about that honoring in the midst
of all that, and tell a little bit of that story.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
It's amazing.

Speaker 11 (40:56):
I had went through a divorce of twenty three years
of marriage. Divorced me because I got saved, and on
my divorce papers it said, I'm divorcing you for being
a born Christian.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
All you watch is Christian.

Speaker 11 (41:09):
Television and you're a zeala for God and will do
anything for him. Well, I called that an honor. You know,
it's amazing. But I'd never realized I had been through
twenty three years of living with a man of abuse,
and until I was delivered from abuse, I had to
stand up to that spirit. And I went home one

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day and I said, you have abused me twenty three years,
and you'll never abuse me again. Do you understand me?
And I think anyone who is facing a.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Goliath, you have to face that spirit.

Speaker 11 (41:43):
And as soon as I faced it, I realized I
took that demon down, you know, of abuse. And right
after that it was seven years. God had me wait
for Dale and God sent me to his church and
I didn't know him.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
And unbelievable as humble and famous as I no, but it.

Speaker 11 (42:06):
Was like instantly, and God gave me a dream that
I was going to move to Delaware from New York.
And I woke up and a prophet called me and
I answered the phone and he said, Luienne, I had
a dream last night, You're moving to Delaware.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
And I was like, oh.

Speaker 11 (42:20):
I started shaking, and I went to walk around my
bed and the Lord said, Lune, get the book out.

Speaker 7 (42:25):
From under your bed.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
I said, God, there's no book under my bed.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
I'm arguing with the Lord.

Speaker 11 (42:31):
And I looked and there was a little book I
gave my son in second grade and it was the
story of Jonah. And God said, are you going to
be like Jonah and not go where I'm sending you? Oh?

Speaker 4 (42:41):
My goodness.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (42:43):
And the biggest trial I ever went through was when
I opened my bedroom door. My son, Matthew was standing
there and he was nineteen at the time. His dad
left when he was fourteen, and we were really close.
But he knew God had visited me, and he said, Mom,
what's going on? I said, Matthew, God just told me
I'm moving to Delaware, and out of his mouth goes, no, Mom,

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this isn't God. The devil took my dad away. Now
he's trying to take my mom away. But I knew
that was the Lord tests to me, do I love
my son more than I love to obey God? And
I knew I had to go. But when I went,
I was not received very well and just how it happened.
And I went through somebody pulling me aside who was

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a good friend of Dale's, telling me what are you doing.
You're destroying his family or destroying his church, and.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
She said you need to leave him now, and I knew.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
It was we were engaged at that point.

Speaker 11 (43:43):
It wasn't God, because God spoke to me. And our
story is very unique because it's a story of loss
and death and how God can take no matter what
goes on in your life.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
He is a God of restoration.

Speaker 11 (43:57):
I don't care what the enemy does to you can
forgive and forget.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
God is just going to take you further.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
So you know, at the end of the day, it's
like God spoke to you, and it just you know,
you have a plethora of people around you and even
in your family that want to tell you what they
think or how they feel, when in reality, you know
what God said to you. But to stand on that
and to stand in it sometimes it's very difficult because
you love all of those people, right, so you had
to battle with that, and you had to battle with

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that as well.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
Yeah, and I have rejection and I had people that
they did not invite me to speak that I was
traveling quite a bit, and so it sort of slowed down.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Is Dale okay? Why would he get married in seven months?

Speaker 10 (44:38):
It was very interesting before when my wife was dying
of cancer, she sat there and she said to me, Dale,
you can't get married until a year after I died,
because I know you want to be with somebody. And
one of the intercessors in our church was sitting there
and said, you can't put that on him.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
You don't know what God's going to do.

Speaker 10 (44:55):
And I thought, intercessor would be quiet, I'm not going
to get married easy here. But you know, she popped
up and I had a dream, and in the dream
I saw Chuck. I was on we were on roller skates,
we were going forward. Chuck Pearce was on roller states.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Coming to me.

Speaker 10 (45:11):
And I thought, I'm going to call up Chuck because
we're praying when do you get married? Because in two
weeks from we met, we knew we were going to
get married. Now you don't, and so but now let
me tell about Chuck Pierce. So I called up Chuck
and I said, Chuck, will you marry us? He said yes,
and they called back and said I can't I said why.
I said, it's my birthday. And we were praying about

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the time. Do you realize a lot of times God
speaks and we think it's this, but it actually was
about the date.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
So that became. But this part, I love the dream.

Speaker 11 (45:41):
So so after visiting his church for two weeks, I'm like, God,
why I am in this church? I had no idea,
and I went home and I had a dream and
his wife, who passed away, came to me in a
dream and said, lu Anne, take care of Dale and
continued the vision for revival at Destiny and that's the
name of church. And I woke up shake, and I go,

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who is this woman?

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Because I've never seen her?

Speaker 11 (46:05):
And I went on the website under his church and
her face was still on it, and it freaked me out.
I go, oh, my God, that's why you sent me
to Delaware because the week my husband left me, it
was prophesied Leuienne. You're going to marry a godly man
and he's a prophet and you're going to travel the
world with him. But I love our ministry because I

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love deliverance, because I was delivered of so much stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
And we're talking like seventeen years later seventeen years seventeen years.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
Yes, our ministry.

Speaker 11 (46:40):
Is so unique because Dale is known as a prophet.
He's amazing, very accurate prophet. He will prophesy an age
to a person and then my gift is okay. If
he says fifteen, what happened to you at fifteen? You're
usually stuck by someone either abused you, abandon you, or
rejected you, or something happened to you.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's really neat.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Well, I just want you to take a moment, if
you will, Dell, look into the camera and just really
minister to someone watching right now that you've felt rejection,
I may might have felt persecution, you might have felt judged,
and the Lord's wanting to heal you today. And you've
been really intrigued listening, like I've never heard people talk

(47:23):
like this before about dreams and God speaking to him.
But I'm just telling you the Lord has his hand
on your life and he loves you so much, So Dale,
just go ahead.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
So first of all, there's several things I want to
say that God's hand is over your heart and over
your life to take you into your future. And what
you've been saved from is not as great as what
you've been saved for when God created you, he put
part of his genius in you. They'll never be another you.

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You're God's one shot at something. You are so valuable
to him. He allowed Jesus to die on the cross,
and he saved you for a purpose. Everything you save,
you say for a purpose. You don't throw it away
because you still have purpose. You're alive, breathing air because
you still have purpose. You're going to change somebody's life.
You're going to help somebody down the road. You don't

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know how God's going to use you, but I'm telling you,
like David, there's an anointing over your life. And if
you'll be after God's heart, you will be surprised how
we will use you. And I break off of you
every devaluing experience, and I release the value and the
honor from Father God that you would actually see yourself

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through his eyes. And I want to say this to you.
Look into his face till you can see part of
your face. You'll never find your identity looking in a mirror.
You'll only find it looking in the face of Father God.
And sometimes God will let hurts come, so he is
your total mirror.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
So good Louienne, just take a moment and just minister
as you feel that.

Speaker 11 (48:59):
Yes, and I would pray for anyone who has gone
through heartache and loss and betrayal, abandonment that the most
important thing you can do is release forgiveness.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
To that person. And as you forgive that person who
hurt you, then you bless them.

Speaker 11 (49:15):
And I want to also say this, you create an
ungodly soul tie with a person during a relationship, It's
very important to break that soul tie. And when you
break that soul tie, you will stop having like bad
dreams or nightmares or stuff. And I whenever I minister
to women who've been abused, I always have them break

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that ungodly soul tie with that abuser because that spirit
will try to come in and give them back.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Just break that in the name of Jesus, So the
blood of Jesus.

Speaker 11 (49:45):
Yes, I would have them say, Okay, I forgive them,
say their name, I release them, I bless them, and
I break that soul tie with them. I break off
any witshcraft, manipulation or unclean spirits in Jesus name that.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
April, would you just take a moment for those maybe
who don't know the Lord, and maybe they've never prayed
the prayer of salvation, and just lead them in a
prayer and we'll repeat after you.

Speaker 8 (50:09):
You pray just like this, say, dear Heavenly Father, I
ask you to come to my heart today. In my heart,
ask you to forgive me and my sins. Forgive me,
and I declare that you are the Lord of my life.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I declare the Lord.

Speaker 8 (50:22):
Today's a new beginning, a fresh start, a fresh start.
The past has gone, the past is Father. I look
forward to the days ahead.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Father, I look forward to. Then, I say you're my
Lord and Savior.

Speaker 8 (50:33):
Jesus name Jesus, Amen.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Amen, and a candle. Quick comment.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
You know, I love what you're saying about identity.

Speaker 9 (50:41):
We really can't get our identity from the world or
from other people. It only comes from God and that
will change lives. I love what you're your message of
that that is so powerful.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Rachel, Yeah, I definitely agree. What do you think is
the biggest obstacle to people finding their identity?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
What's holding them back?

Speaker 10 (50:58):
I think there's a religious spirit that we're taught to
be humble and we're not taught to walk in honor
and greatness. So we don't we settle for less and when,
but we could have had more.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Rebecca, what would your piece of advice to be for
someone going through a dark season?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Think of it as a test.

Speaker 10 (51:21):
It's temporary and in it you're going to find the
light from God that propels you when things are great.
It's a test and pass it because something great is
ahead of you.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
I just want to say thank you to both of
you for sharing, because I believe that people out there
that are going through things similar to you, they want
to quit and give up because they don't understand if
they stand well, God will do in the life of
honoring others.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
So thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (51:54):
I like that statement. People say, how did you get here?

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Dale? I said, I didn't quit the seven times I
felt like it, that's right. I just got closer to him.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
And you said, and you said trouble. Anybody who doesn't
have trouble.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
They're not going anywhere. Wow.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So good, Okay. Who needs to get the bookdal Uh?

Speaker 10 (52:15):
I have people literally in college, high school, millionaires, people
in music in Nashville reading this book to change your life.
So if you're breathing, you need to have that book
because It'll make you dream about your life from Heaven's
perspective and no limits because we have a God that's
great and quick call it.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Lewin because you shared your heart on this so well.
For people watching that gone through a divorce, that have
felt rejected by the church, what would you say to them?

Speaker 11 (52:43):
Yes, yeah, it's amazing how people label you as a
divorce see, and that really tried to keep me from ministry.
But it's a lie. And every lie you have you
have to put the truth over it, and the truth
breaks the lie. But it's very important. But what I
love about Dale's ministry too. We have been used for

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many churches to go in and help the pastors come
forward because they.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
Go through heartache just like we have walked through.

Speaker 11 (53:12):
But it's amazing a lot of churches God has used
him or myself to help them not quit, don't give up.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
So all the people that rejected you from the church,
how is it today?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
How did God change that?

Speaker 7 (53:25):
It's amazing.

Speaker 11 (53:26):
Most of the people who really rejected me are the
people God used to help me deliver them from what
they're going through.

Speaker 10 (53:33):
Some people came back for deliverance and you know, she
sat down there.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
This is very important.

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Sat down with Randy Clark and everybody stood up and
she introduced herself. Said Hi, I'm Luann. I'm divorced. She
said she felt like she were a d I said,
good door. I said, it was Dail for destiny, for Dover,
for Delaware.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
It's amazing how it labels you.

Speaker 11 (53:55):
And I believe the lie that God couldn't use me
in ministry because I was.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
It's not the parniavals exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And then your son God worked out things with your son.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
God moved him to Delaware and he says, Mom, I'm
not moving to Tennessee. But he goes to his wife.
He goes, maybe I'm called to go to Tennessee. I'm
to fight so much.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
But that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
But God works all those things out, even though it's
those moments you're thinking this is going to be tragic.

Speaker 10 (54:20):
You have to play it all well before the Lord. Yeah,
to really experience everything so good.

Speaker 11 (54:26):
The most amazing thing I think that happened through my divorce.
It was like fourteen years and I hadn't seen my
ex husband and my older son was getting married, and
I said, Lord, what do I do when I see him?

Speaker 7 (54:39):
Because this is a man who.

Speaker 11 (54:42):
Bankrupted foreclothes, divorced me, repossessed my car, and even tried
to take the kids from me. And I'm like, Lord,
what do I do? And he goes, don't worry, Luienne,
I'll show you.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Well.

Speaker 11 (54:52):
Right after the marriage ceremony which Dale married them was amazing.
He walked up and introduced himself to.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
Dale and I just reached around and I hugged him.
And when I hugged him, he wouldn't let me go.

Speaker 11 (55:05):
And it was almost like he was feeling the love
of God and even the forgiveness of God. But it's
amazing how whatever you go through, the Lord can give
you the heart of God's.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
So good, so good, so good. Well we're out of time,
so interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
But I want you to remember that no matter what
others have said about you, God calls you his beloved child.
You are his son, you are his daughter, And before
you even knew him, he had already loved you. And
the Bob talks about that I knew you before you
were born your mother's womb. So let the Holy Spirit
bring this revelation to life in you today. And if

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you're watching today and you need prayer, there's a prayer
line number on the screen. An amazing prayer partners standing by.
If you pray that prayer of salvation with April, we'd
love to send you the Book of John. The Gospel
of John is a great place to start in the Bible,
and we'll send that to you for free. Let us
know that you prayed the prayer. Also, I want to
thank del Nuann for joining us today. Be sure you

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pick up a copy of Dale's book and David perceived
he was King Rebecca, you recommend this highly right, I
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Speaker 2 (56:27):
Thank you so much for watching. Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
When you've come back and be with us again, update
us on what's going on. We can cover some more
subjects for sure, but you too are just delightful.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
And thank you ladies for joining me. Thank you for watching.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Hey, I'm excited about that word that was for you.
You've just kind of been stuck, but God's going to
lift you out. He's got continued purpose and destiny for
you in the days ahead, so I want you to
embrace that and realize who you are in Christ.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
God's not done with you yet. We'll see you next time.
Bye bye for today.