July 7, 2025 • 51 mins
Just the News No Noise on Real America's Voice
Segment A: HOUSE JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN JIM JORDAN TALKS NEW RUSSIAGATE INTEL
Segment B: CONGRESSMAN NICK BEGICH ON HOW THE OBBB WAS PASSED RIGHT AT THE DEADLINE
Segment C: BEN BERGQUAM REPORTS FROM THE DEVASTATING FLOODS IN KERRVILLE, TEXAS
Segment D: MAKING AMERICA BEAUTIFUL AGAIN
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Good evening, America, and welcome to the Monday edition of
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support them, they support us, all right. Tonight, we open
the show with new details on how recently declassified intelligence
is raising questions about the accuracy of testimony that former
Obama CIE director John Brennan gave to Congress. That the
same intelligence also is casting fresh doubts on the plit
surprisablear wards given to you know who the Washington Post
back in twenty eighteen for its coverage of the now
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discredited Russia collusion scandal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's get you up to speed quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Of course, last week, current CIA director John Radcliffe disc
goes at CI's evidence for claiming in twenty sixteen like
it did that Russia tried to help get Trump elected
was based on faulty spy trade craft, in specifically that
John Brennan personally overruled two career experts by insisting that
the uncorroborated Christopher Steel dasab included in the Intelligence Communities
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report to the American people. Now, Brennan testified to Congress
just two years ago that it was the FBI who
pushed to put that faulty Steel d'assier in the Intelligence
community assessment, and that he did not overrule any CIA officials.
Both of those assertions are now being called into question.
I'm even raising about questions about whether he should be prosecuted.
It's important to remember, nine years later, how much that
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Intel report cast a pall over the entire first two
years of the Trump presidency, the first Trump presidency, creating
the public perception that the American president might have been
a stooge of Vladimir Pu.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He wasn't, because the now weapons in showing it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But that didn't stop the Washington Post from using that
same Intel report as the genesis for one of the
stories and It's Blit surprise winning package that criticized Trump
for not accepting the claims that Russia tried to help
get him elected. It turns out Trump had good reason
to question that assessment, because even CAREERCYI officials had concerns
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The question last.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Tonight is what can be done about it now, all
these years later? How should you show you? Committee Chairman?
Jim Jordan's going to join us in a second, we're
going to ask it in that question. Before we get
to that, let me turn to my amazing costs, as
we always do at this point in the show.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Amanda head from more Headlines, Amana, what do you get
on your radiar?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Good to see John.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes, we've got a couple more quick things to get
to before we get back to the Chairman. So let's
turn to the tragic and devastating floods that hit Kerrville,
Texas area, early on Friday last week. The Guadalupe River
reportedly rose and astonishing twenty six feet in just forty
five minutes that according.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
To state officials, and the death toll has.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Now increased to ninety five people, including twenty seven young
girls in camp counselors from Camp Mystic that is situated
right there along the Guadalupe River. Rescue efforts, of course,
are still ongoing, and a big part of the debate
is if authorities in the area were notified about the
possible flash flooding, with the mayor of Kerrville, Joe Herring,
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saying that he didn't receive any warning about the torrential rainfall.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
However, we do know that a.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Series of alerts were sent out on Wednesday and Thursday
from the National Weather Service. White House Press Secretary Carolyn
Levitt was asked about the government's response before and after.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The flooding earlier today. Here is what she said.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
The National Weather Service, the Union actually publicly stated they
had an adequate staff on hand to forecast.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Or predate the storm.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You shared your thoughts earlier on.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
How the way the left has really weaponized this to
blame the deaths in Texas on Trump for to.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Camm on that again.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Yeah, I just do think those comments are depraved and despicable,
especially when so many Americans are mourning the loss of
their children.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The National Weather Service, as I said, did its job.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Many experts, many meteorologists have said that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Many of you in the media and all fairness have
said that as well.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Unfortunately, not all we know the National Weather Service provided
early and consistent warnings. They gave out timely flash flood alerts.
There were record breaking lead times in the lead up
to this catastrophe. There is ongoing flood monitoring and these
offices were well staffed.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And the Trump administration says that the President will likely
visit that area on Friday. And we're going to have
more for you later on in the show with Ben Berkwam,
who is down there in Texas doing some really great
reporting on this.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And one last quick note, The.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Department of Justice has stirred up some fury after elaked
memo stated that the dj has found no evidence of
a Jeffrey Epstein client list he was alleged to news
to blackmail high profile people with. In fact, the DOJ
says that a client list never existed at all. And
this goes along with the FBI asserting that Jeffrey Epstein
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killed himself and that they didn't have any evidence to
suggest that other foul play was involved. Now, over on
social media, many many pro MAGA accounts are calling for
Attorney General Pam Bondi to resign, and we've reported more
on that over at justinnews dot com, So go check
it out. Over there, John, I am seeing a lot
of outrage on social media about this, this assertion from
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the DJ.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, miying it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Let me tell you what I know from all the
reporting I've tried to do on this first there, I
actually covered a story where a guy was accused of
the rule that he died of suicide in prison. It
turned out to be a murder. I was able to
roll back that case from the forensic evidence. Eventually, the
family even won a major settlement from the federal government
for the way they lied about what happened. There isn't
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that same evidence in this case. You just don't see
the sort of things forensically or in the timeline that
suggests that everybody I've talked to who've looked at the
video footage and what happened there.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was negligence in the prison.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Maybe they turned a blind eye because they knew he
might be killing himself or something, But they don't seem
to have anything that would suggest someone went in there
and strung them up and killed them. So that's just
the facts are the facts, and I try to stick
to them as a reporter. The second part of this,
and I was always a little perplexed when Pam Bondi
claimed that she had the client list on her, Yes,
because it's not the way from everybody I interviewed around Epstein,
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the way he worked. He did have a black book
of all the phone numbers in contexts, and we know
who his friends are, and that black book's been made public.
A guy like him is not going to write down
and say politician A paid me. It just doesn't work
that way because he knows how dangerous it is to
write it down. And I just think that the expectation
was raised higher. I'm not listen. I'm always open to
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the idea there's a cover up, and I'm always digging
and we never stopped digging here American mayor's voice and
just the news, but my reporting kind of tracks what
the Justice Department is saying. I think the unfortunate thing
is that an expectation was raised by Pam Bondi and
it wasn't there. And I think she probably should have
been more careful in the words. We know what happened
with those binders. It was kind of an awkward moment
for the Justice Department. Didn't need to be that way, No, But.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I have to think that Pam Bondy as Attorney general.
If she didn't have the goods at that time, that
was a major, major over promise. She had to have
calculated what that would look like to the American people
or not.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Maybe that's the problem she should have calculated.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Maybe that said, well, we're going to have a lot
more it's gonna be a lot more debate for weeks
to come. We're very lucky to kick out the show
today by someone who's on the front line of all
of these important issues. He's the chairman of the House
Judiciary Committee. It was actually his committee that interviewed John
Brendan and got that extraordinary testimony. He is the one
and the only Congressman Jim Jordan, it's the chairman.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Good to have you back on going to be with
you guys.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Thanks for all you do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We love what you do.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Sir.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Let me just start with the new evelations that John
Radcliffe gave us.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You had Brendan in front of your committee.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He said the FBI wanted it not be and I
didn't overrule any CIA officials. Are you going to ask
the Justice Department to investigating for Pertrie?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
But we're looking at this John, because you faimed it right.
He told us when we interviewed him last I guess
last Congress it was in twenty three. He said he
didn't learn about the dossier until December and he got
it from the FBI. That doesn't seem to completely square
with what mister Ratcliffe has uncovered over at CIA, talking
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with people who worked on putting the ICA the Intelligence
Community Assessment together. And then if you go back and
you remember this as well, back in twenty seventeen, when
Chairman Goudy interviewed mister Brennan and what he said to
mister Goudy, he specifically Trey asked, did the CIA rely
on the dossier and mister Brennan said no, and it
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said he said it was not in any way used
as a basis for the Intelligence Communy assessment. Well, again,
director Ratcliffe is saying that is not true. So it
looks like, specifically when he was asked by Chairman Goudy,
he said something that was not accurate, and looks like
he may have said something that wasn't accurate to mister
Gates and I when we deposed him in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Chairman, even if there was some type of legal recourse.
I think that the American people would prefer to have
these questions proffered to Brennan again in the public eye
and not in some investigation room. Would you bring Brennan
before the committee again and ask them the same question.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Everything's on the table. And if you remember when we
deposed mister Brennan a little over a year ago, we
did so in the context largely of the fifty one
Intel former Intel officials, the fifty one who misled the
entire country in the run up to the twenty twenty
election about saying the Russian information that the laptop was
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had all the hallmarks or earmarks of a Russian information operation.
So we were but we did get into as our reference,
we did get into the whole twenty six, twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen effort, of the whole Russia collusion issue as well.
So everything's on the table. WILL want to take a
look at this and we'll see what else mister Ratcliffe
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may do, or what if anything, the Department of Justice
may do, what Attorney General Bonding may do with this
information as well.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, really important.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So I want to turn to another piece of work
that you've been doing, such important enlightenment to the American people,
and that is the censorship machinery that was put into place.
You've exposed all the sensors, all the social media censorship.
Now you're finding how that censorship machine went a step
further and tried to be basically financially to platform people
that didn't agree with liberals advertising blockades. Tell us what
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you're learning and how severe the impact might have been
on organizations like Real America's Voice, just the News or
others who were trying to tell the truth years ago.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Well, the good news is Garment is out of business.
But garm was doing what you just described, John gar
Garma was basically saying telling people, all, we think it's
a reputational risk if you advertise on certain websites, certain platforms.
We think that's a problem. And as a result, you
would get companies who just would who just want to
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uh advertising and conservative outlets like like yours or others.
And so we're going to continue to focus on that
effort and make sure that make sure we can stop
that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Uh, mister chairman.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Some news that came out recently about the d o
J regarding Jeffrey Epstein and it seems like the American
people are not buying in this. Actually seems like one
of those issues at the left and right are united
on in that if there's an Epstein.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
List, they wanted what is going on behind the scenes?
Speaker 8 (11:24):
You think, well, again, I have the utmost confidence in
the Attorney General and the and the Deputy Attorney General
and director of Hotel and assistant director of Bongino. I
think these these are good folks. And I've seen a
difference night and day when when we deal with them
and our committee, Judiciary Committee dealing with the Justice Department.
So how the most confidence in them. If this is
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what this is, what the facts and the evidence show,
then then that's what it is. I know there were
a lot of people who thought that there was there
was something something there, but you know, we will we
will take uh, we will take the Attorney General and
the and the director. It's our words. I know they're
doing good work. In so many years I always put
out I think it was the second day he was
on the job, we said seven subpoenas to director of
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Padel and it was a night and day. The compliance
we got with those documents and information we requested was
just so different than it was with Chris Ray, and
of course Attorney General Darland Sarah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I know you keep an eye close on the judiciary,
particularly the lower courts where there's been a lot of
unconstitutional rulings to keep getting overturned by the Supreme Court.
Some judges don't seem to have taken their cue from
the Supreme Court's recent rulings. Tell us where you are
just monitoring the situation, whether we might see some sort
of action from Congress to rein.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
This in Well, we got three courses of action we
can do. We can we can pass legislation which we've
already done in the Judiciary Committee in the House, which
is Darryl Lysi's bill, which said, you know that these
six hundred and seventy seven federal district judges, when it
comes to issuing injunctions, the injunction shouldn't apply nationwide. It's
just applied to the parties in that case in that
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respective jurisdiction. We think that's common sense, and frankly, the
Supreme Court said as much two weeks ago. So we
got legislation, We've had oversight hearings, we had former Speaker
Gingrichen and he talked about it and gave a good
historical perspective on this whole issue. And then I think
we've got to look at the appropriations process. You know,
the the judicial conferences asked for a big, big raise
in their budget. I think we need to take a
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look at that and decide, Okay, we want to make
sure the security of court officials is taken care of,
because you know, we remember what happened to Judge Kavanaugh
and the threats on his life. It's the assassination attempt
that he had to get through, so we'd understand that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But there may be.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
Ways we can use the power of the purse, which
is again what the founders thought that was the biggest
power that the legislative had relative to the others. So
I think we're looking at that process as it unfolds
here over the next three months as well.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So quickly before we let you go, should Chief Justice
John Roberts weigh in on it?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Is there something that he can do well?
Speaker 8 (13:59):
There is interesting thing because not just teach us that,
John Robert, but Associate Justice Kagan has said that this
injunction issue, she felt it should only apply to parties
in the case in that jurisdiction and shouldn't have nationwide implications.
So even liberal justices have said so. I think it'd
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become a nice maybe if the Chief Justice said as much.
But again, we got that good decision which said basically
it's limited to the parties in the case, which I
thought was a great decision from the court. It was
a six or three decision two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and attracts exactly where you were working on the
Judiciary Committee. So a good union, amity there, sir. It's
always a great honor. I know, how busy r Thank
you for joining us on a vis Monday.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Thank you guys, Thank care.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Great to have you on on a great interview. As always,
always learned so much from Amanda. All Right, we're going
to take a quick rouk for make one come back.
We got another law maker here from Congress, Congressman Nick
Beggant from the great state of Alaska's going to join us.
A lot of discussing that big, beautiful bill plus.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 4 (16:28):
Welcome back to just the News, No Noise. That big
beautiful bill met its July fourth deadline set by President
Trump and it is now the law of the land.
And I couldn't have gotten done without a key vote
flip in the Senate. That would be from Alaska Senator
Lisa Murkowski deciding to vote for the bill after she
had initially signaled that she might not. So with us
now to discuss part of the reason why Senator Murkowski
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voted for the bill and the impact that it's going
to have now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That it is laws.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Congressman Nick Baggage from Alaska. Congressman Beggage, thanks so much for.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Being with us.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Thanks for having me good here.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You know, I remember I think it was sometime around
the R and C last year we had the other
Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan on our show and he talked
about the sixty six executive orders signed by Joe Biden
that directly affected the state of Alaska. I have a
feeling that maybe that and oil has something to do
with Lisa Mrikalski Flibby.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You know what's amazing in the Big Beautiful Bill. One
of the things that hasn't really been talked about yet
is the fact that we are mandating oil and gas
lead sales in Alaska to the tune of thirty million acres.
And just to give sense of the size, what does
thirty million acres look like. Well, it's almost the size
of the state of Florida. And it's thirty five times
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more than was leased under the twenty seventeen Tax Cuts
and Jobs Act. It's transformational for the state of Alaska.
It's huge for the nation, unlocking Alaska's energy resources on
behalf of all Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, so very important.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now, just a few minutes ago, a federal judges and
whos is reporting this?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Federal judge has blocked the plan Parenthood defunding that was
in the One, Big Beautiful Bill was Congress's intention they
passed it. Here's another district judge getting in the way.
I think gets your reaction to just how these judges
have been acting on so many of these cases recently.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, and as our Chairman Jim Jordan just mentioned in
the previous segment, you know, we have a serious problem
with activist judges across the country that are exceeding their
jurisdictional authority, and the Supreme Court just ruled, look, you
don't have the authority to make nationwide injunctions within your district.
And I think this is one more example where this
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is going to have to run up the courts to
the Supreme Court, where they're going to continue to have
to tell these district judges, look, your scope of authority
is limited. And I think they made the right decision
in that six to three decision recently, and it seems
as though they're going to have to continue to make
those same judgments as it pertains to these district courts.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Congressman, last week we had a number of members of
Congress come on the show and they sounded disappointed with
some of the changes that the Senate had made and
had indicated that they thought that the timeline of Friday
might come and go without the billeting pass. Obviously that
didn't happen, so that's good. But as far as the
provisions in there that were changed or altered or added
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or taken away by the Senate. I know that compromise
can sometimes be painful, but maybe it's a little less
painful now that the House seems very interested in utilizing
recisions going forward. You anticipate that's going to be something
to lessen the brunt of the blow of those of
those compromises.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I do think we need to continue to look at recisions.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
We saw the first recisions package actually move through the
House before the Budget Reconciliation package was passed, and I'm
hopeful that that's the first of many. We saw a
number of items identified through the DOGE workstream that need
to be removed from the approved budget, and only Congress
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can do that through the recisions process. We're told that
the administration has been queuing up additional recisions packages, and
I know that my colleagues in the House are looking
forward to reviewing those packages and reducing the size and
scope of government where there's waste, fraud, and abuse.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, plenty of work ahead on that front, but a
good start, you know, when you let people forget that,
this big, beautiful bill is probably the largest single reduction
in the size of government a long time, and so
it's a good start and lots more runway to keep going.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I want to turn to the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Revelations from John Radcliffe, the CIA director, last week that
the intelligence community knew that its intelligence community assessment claiming
that Trump was being helped by Russia to win the
election was faulty. John Brennan specifically is accused in that report,
with the evidence backing it up, to overroll the career
people who didn't want the Steele Dossi included in that
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we look back. I know it's nine years ago, but
it's left a large shadow over the Intelligence Committee. Your
thirds on what we learned and how we're going to
fix it going forward.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Look, I think what we've seen is that leadership at
times within the intelligence community has prevented the rank and
file of that community, who has access to the raw data,
from presenting that data to the American people, and the
intelligence community has become a political weapon of the left,
utilized both in the twenty sixteen election in the twenty
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twenty two rather than the twenty twenty four election. We
saw it in twenty twenty as well, and when we
saw the Laptop from Hell with.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Biden's son, we.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Were told that was Russian disinformation. Nothing could have been
further from the truth. That was his own behavior on
full display to the entire nation, and we saw the
intelligence community wrap their people around that narrative, and it
was straight up false. And so additional work needs to
be done with in the intelligence community to ensure that
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the information flowing from our intelligence sources is nonpartisan, and
is accurate and is vetted. And unfortunately, in these last
several years, we have not seen that. And I'm very
hopeful that under the Trump administration, we'll be able to
clean that out, restore confidence in our intelligence communities analysis packages,
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and when that's presented to the American public, there'll be
confidence that what we're getting is the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Really important, Karrasmon, I want to tie that in with
the distrust that still persists today, because whether you're talking
about that whole saga with Brennan and Clapper and Comy
and Weisman and that whole cast of characters.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Now we are.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Dealing with a DOJ who is asserting that the Epstein
files don't exist.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
There was no client list.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And even though this administration, the FBI under Cash Betel
and the DOJ under Pam BONDI I think they are
doing their best to be transparent and to get the
truth out to the American people, but they're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That past distrust.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
How do they walk that tightrope between getting the American
people what they need and deserve to have as Americans
to know out of their government, but also, you know,
doing their jobs and making sure that they are protecting
what needs to be protected.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think the American people need to remember that this
is the first administration that release all of the JFK files.
This is an administration that is committed to transparency and
has proven that they're committed to transparency both in the
first Trump term and in these first six months of
Trump two point zero. So I think there should be
a lot of confidence that has been restored. I recognize
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that there's a lot of concern around these particular files
and some of the statements that have been made in
the past.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
We know that there's information.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
The FBI and others investigated this in the past. We
resulted in a conviction of Jeffrey Epstein and his co
conspirator in all of this, and so we know that
there are files, We know that there is information, and
I say, look, reveal that in to the American public
present to the American public what's available.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I have high.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Confidence that the Trump administration is committed to transparency based
on what we have seen in this administration as it
relates to other files and other promises that have been made.
And I'm sure that they are working diligently to go
through all the information that is available and present to
the public.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, that's definitely what we all need and want. So
before I let you go and I serve on how
natural resources. There was a fun posting on x from
the Energy Department last week Drill, Mind, build, and then repeat,
and it just gave us a sense of just how
much the world has changed. The key word there is mining.
We haven't had a lot of mining opportunities in the
(24:44):
last four or five years, quite frankly in the last
decade or two. How important are the Trump's reforms to
mining and getting mining started in America again to the
future of our economy.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
It's absolutely crucial.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
When you think about China, they have weaponized their own
supply chain.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
They have restricted our ability to access.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Rare earth minerals and certain critical minerals like gallium and
germanium and animony, and these are things that are necessary
in the high tech industries are necessary for national defense. Unfortunately,
we've allowed China to control in some cases one hundred
percent of the refining capacity of these critical minerals. We
have to restore our ability to refine and produce those
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minerals here at home. Fortunately, Alaska has forty nine of
the fifty critical minerals on our Critical Minerals list in
economic quantities. What President Trump is doing is transformational, it's generational.
It's necessary for us to restore our own sovereignty and
national security. Alaska is going to play a really important
(25:44):
role moving forward in making sure that happens.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, that's going to be really exciting to see where
this country is with respective domestic energy production in the
next year. And that's going to be in huge thanks
to the state of Alaska. Congressman Vegget from the Great
State of Alaska, thanks so much for spending some time.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
With us here night. Thank you, absolutely all right.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Next, we're going to get you to ravzvari own bin Berkwam,
who is reporting down there from the site of those
devastating floods in central Texas.
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Speaker 3 (27:32):
And so while we were here.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So and then we just have this left hang in.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
So I just kind of like get out of here.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
And this and this is all water, all water, all
water up to here.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And so we went through Jack's roof all the way
I was we.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Were just swepped away. I wasn't swimming.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I was bubbing about my husband glee.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So you got pulled out, pulled out, Yeah, so my
husband grab me, you can grab the tree.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But we called nine with one.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, we were still here before before the water get
up on Ebody.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Came amazing, almost pulled out of her house by the
rushing water. Say by here osen. What you just watched
was from Rasberry own Ben Berkram talking to Juliet well Then,
who lost her home to the devastating floods in Kerville, Texas.
We just got an update a few minutes ago. It's
a tragic update. The death toll from that those floods
are now over one hundred, more than a quarter of
(28:28):
them young children who are at a camp joining us
now to discuss more of what he's seeing on the ground,
reporting for Real America's Voice, our very own Ben berkram Ben,
good to have you on. I wish it was under
different circumstances, though.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, as do I.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
This is as a I mean I've been struggling with
it all weekend, as a dad of three young girls.
This is you know what you fear the most, and
you almost have no words. And unfortunately that number is
going to continue to rise. Total number of missing is
they're not releasing it. But when I asked this morning,
they said they weren't going to release a number. I said, dozens.
(29:06):
Are we talking dozens or hundreds? They said, it's bad.
It's bad, so you can presume the worst in that.
So it's just yeah, it's tragic. It's an absolute tragic event.
And just pray for this community.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And as he witnessed the resources and the help coming
in and out, I know that Governor Greg Abbott immediately
called for all state resources to be deployed, and then
President Trump all federal resources.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Are they getting everything they need?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
From the beginning, I mean I arrived. The day it happened,
I was actually on my way home for Fourth of July,
as the first fourth of July I was going to
spend with my girls in four years, been on the
road ever since, and I was.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Excited about that.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
And I heard about this, and we made the call
that this is too important not to cover as a dad,
you know, I think about my daughter's missing Fourth of July,
but at least I get to go home to them,
and watching what happened here when I got here, watching
the local first responders and the state first responders and
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the federal guys coming in, it is the best response
I've ever seen out It's one of the worst tragedies
I've ever seen too, but it could be so much
worse when they when they they these guys have rescued
close to a thousand people. I mean, it's just what
they've done is nothing short of heroic. And they've been
going non stop. We're over seventy two hours into this.
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They have been NonStop from the beginning, from that moment
that you know, we first realized how bad it was,
because nobody, nobody estimated that it was going to be
this bad. Nobody, you know, the high numbers on rain
totals were ten inches in some areas. We're talking twenty
you know, fifteen to twenty inches in some places. And
the fact that it parked where it did for such
(30:53):
a long time, feeding into the North and South Fork,
I mean, and that it happened to be one of
the busiest weekends of the year down here. It was
just a sequence of variables that led to an absolute disaster.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And it's tragic.
Speaker 9 (31:09):
But it's also you know, you look at these heroes
that are out there putting their lives on the line.
At the same time, God bless them. Pray for this community,
but also pray for these guys men and women that
are out there just given everything they have to help
save any lives they can.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, it is remarkable, and it's in the face of tragedy,
Americans always step up. It's such an amazing dynamic we
have in this country. You talked about how on precedent
it was. I think I read in some of the transcripts,
twenty six foot rise in a river in just one hour,
forty five minutes. Nobody could prepare for that level of devastation, right.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
No, and at the worst possible time, at three in
the morning, everyone's asleep, everyone's going into the fourth of
July weekend. And so just to give you an idea,
where I'm standing, the bridge there was the water was
to that level. I'm below that, so this I would
actually be underwater here. So think about from here where
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I'm standing, to the houses across the street, all the
way to the shopping center way off in the distance
over there, all of this turned into water in around
an hour and at three in the morning. So even
if you're getting the alerts are going out, the warnings
are going out, everyone's sleeping. And if you're not sleeping,
then it becomes the question of do I leave my house,
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which is my sanctuary, go into a car, which I'm
told not to do in a flood, and drive down
hill country roads many of which I presume are already.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Flooded as well.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
So you were left with this terrible dilemma, and the
first responders were as well, and the city officials were
as well. Do we call people and say evacuate or
do we say shelter in places? It was just a
no win situation at the worst possible time, on the
worst possible weekend, and tragically, see in the results.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, Ben, I spoke earlier today to Texas Land Commissioner
Don Buckingham, and I was asking her some of the
solutions to this problem. But you're there on the ground,
you're seeing any gaps in coverage and resources. But like
you said, I mean, there's this level of unpredictability and
you're stuck in this chasm between do we shelter in
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place or do we run? What do you see as
a need that should be filled for next time?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
Well, I think the first off is to do a
deep analysis of what happened, how it happened, why it happened,
and what potential solutions there were that could have been
measures that could have been taken to not prevent it obviously,
but to mitigate the damage. And you look at all
those options. You know, it's early warning on sirens. Do
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you know we have those for tornadoes? Do we need
something like that here? Local community outreach, There's all these
things that could be done. I think you look at
all those and say, Okay, what are reasonable steps that
we could take to address this in the future. Understanding
that this is a you know, once in one hundred
year flood, This is not a common occurrence.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Even in this area.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know, they have floods, but to get to this
level is very very infrequent. So I think you look
at all the options and you say, what are the
best options, and you choose solutions that are best, you know,
for those for the problem. And I think they'll do that.
Knowing President Trump, that's what he does. That's what every
business owner does anytime there's a problem in the business
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in our country. President Trump does that all the time.
And I think they're going to do that. But sometimes,
you know, you look at nature and you look at
there's some things that are just completely outside of our control.
There's saying some things you just can't predict, and even
when they happen, they happen so fast that you don't
have time. And so you know, I say, you look
at it all, you come up with the best solutions,
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but you understand we're finite beings on a finite planet,
and you just pray that you know where you're going
when you leave.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, wise words and great coverage.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Band.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You've made this so understandable for us, And I know
you're working hard hours in difficult circumstances. Anything that the
people Texas need from us, right now's anything we can
do at home.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Well, if you want to give, there's a Texas Hill
Country Foundation community foundation. That's the one they're asking people
to give to. It goes directly to the local communities.
I've been asking since I got here on Friday, and
we've heard from the beginning they have enough. They have
enough response from they have enough people on the ground
doing the searches, they have enough food, they have enough
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you know, all of the supplies. But this is not
a day problem, a week problem, a month problem. This
is a year's problem. And so I would just say
be ready.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They will need more.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Not just monetarily, but psychologically. You know, this is going
to be a community that's going to have to rebuild
physically and emotionally. And so continue the prayers. Continue to
if you can give there again, give to the local
community foundation and pray. And then also understand it's not
just Kurville. It's multiple counties around this region that have
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been affected by this. So and most people don't have
flood insurance because it's it's exorbitantly expensive where you just
can't afford it. And so this is you know, that's
one of those things.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
There there will.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Be needs and needs and needs.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
As this continues to unfold.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, as words and great coverage has always been. You
do such a great job on the most dangerous assignments.
We're grateful for your work here and the time you
spend with us. Say thanks for doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Trying to take quick commercial break.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Next, President Trump signed an order last week that are
supposed to help make America beautiful again. We'll tell you
how the President plans to do that after these quick messages.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Welcome back to justin News, no noise. A quick note
before we get to our next guest. We are keeping
a very close eye on an anti Israel protest that
is popped up here at DC outside of the White House.
This is an Israeli Prime This ass Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanya, who of course is set to arrive. And
that's in the small box on your screen. So if
anything happens, we're going to get you right out to it.
(37:25):
But for something a bit lighter, President Trump took a
big step to accomplishing another one of his campaign promises
last week, making America beautiful again. And he did it
by signing the aptly named of Make America Beautiful Again.
Executive Order which creates a council to help the government
preserve America's abundant natural beauty. So joining us now to
talk about it is the founder and CEO of Nature
(37:46):
Is Nonpartisan, a group that helped work on this latest
executive order. Benji Backer, Benji, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It is great to be here.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I know you are intimately knowledgeable on all this entails
tell us about. Because we've got Maga, Maha, and now
we got Maba.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
It's the three mas. I don't know how else we
can call it, but it's really exciting. I mean really,
it's a new day of conservation in the United States,
and President Trump has a real opportunity to follow this
Executive up order up with some of the most historic
conservation efforts since Teddy Roosevelt. Americans in America and in
our environment is in disrepair. We have historic wildfire seasons
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every year, our coasts are eroding. We have some really
bad damages happening to our environment every single day. Our
national parks are in crippling debt, and we need a leader,
a bold leader, to create visionary policies to bring us
to the next generation of conservation. That's exactly what this
executive order does. It creates a commission that will be
led by Doug Burgham, another great conservationist, to create big
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and bold solutions to solve some of the biggest environmental
challenges in American history that we are facing today. But
it's not about climate, it's not about energy. It's about
our physical environment and how do we make America's beauty
that we all love and you enjoy with our recreation
and our access to these places, how do we make
them healthy for future generations and not just watch them
wither away and delay action, which we've done over the
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last few decades.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's a really big step.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, we put trillions of dollars into investments that didn't
actually solve the problem, and yet there were really pragmatic solutions.
What I love about this, Benji, is that and I'm
old enough to remember when Ronald Reagan was taking care
of the ozone hole in the sky and just you know,
pragmatically dealt with it, and they take a lot of regulation,
just kind it done. She'll say, I'm old enough to
remember Teddy Roosevelt creating the National Park System.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
The Republicans, that'd be pretty cool this issue. They got
chased out of it.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You're opening the door with this to make conservation fashionable
again for conservatives, which they always have been conservationists.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Well, we've really lost our way on this issue as
Americans because we've made it a political issue. The left
has made it an alarmist issue. It's not about actually
saving the environment. It's about promoting programs that help leftist causes.
And this is a really big opportunity for us to
step in and say, hey, this is actually about the
environment again. There's a lot of Democrats as well that
want to team up and give President Trump a win
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on this. This is an eighty twenty issue. This is
something that Americans really want across the political spectrum, and
from a legacy standpoint, Donald Trump couldn't have picked a
bigger or better issue to leave it on than conservation.
This is something that's been part of our heritage forever,
and presidents across the aisle used to work together to
get things done. It's been politicized, it's been partisanized, and
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it's put our environment at risk of being ruined. And
we have the best environment in the world.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
We truly do.
Speaker 10 (40:38):
But we have some of the biggest challenges that we've
ever faced, and it takes a visionary leader like Donald
Trump to understand that he can go in there and
help fix it. Now, that doesn't mean that the government
is going to be part of every single thing. There's
going to be a lot of voluntary incentives. There's gonna
be a lot of public private partnerships working with local NGOs,
local governments, state governments who often know how to take
care of their land better than the federal government does.
(41:00):
There's going to be a lot of great partnerships that
come from this, and it's not just going to be
a one size fits all, big government answer. But I've
been to tell you a lot of Democrats and Republicans
over the last few days since the EO is signed,
and there is a lot of excitement in the conservation
community to get things done across the political spectrum here.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Absolutely, are we getting access to President Trump's by a
lot with you know?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Is that what I think? In a few seconds, we're
going to be switching over there.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, Okay, so we can throw to Benji you want
to hang tight and we'll keep you on the other
side of you don't have yet.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay, Lordy, Lordy, too many signals coming in my ear.
All right, Benji.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Then I have to ask you about the big Prize,
because I believe it was Grant in the eighteen seventies
who established Yellowstone and that was the first national park,
and then of course Teddy Roosevelt greatly expanded it. So
is there a big ticket item for President Trump that
when people look back one hundred years from now, they
say that that's the guy who did that.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Well.
Speaker 10 (41:55):
I think he can solve the water crisis in the West.
I think he can solve the water crisis in the East.
I think he can reforce America's forests. I think he
can build wildlife corridors with local involvement, so not putting
ranchers and farmers as the enemy, but actually working with them.
I think he can make massive wildlife corridors that allow
wildlife to thrive and give hunting and fishing communities the
access that they need. I think he can do all
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of that, and I think that he will. I think
he can make the national parks profitable again. I mean,
there's so many different things. These are huge, big ticket
items that you can look back on It's not just
going to be one thing. It could be all these
things and let me just even tease something else out.
He could look at the inner you know, this is
a really interesting opportunity to look at making America's international
park system and work with our allies and adversaries to
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protect America's beauty, but also not just America's beauty, their
beauty as well in the way that American conservation has
led on. So there's so many opportunities here, and I
think that we're going to look back at this and
say Donald Trump was the best conservation president in American history.
That's the opportunity that we have in front of us,
and that's something that President Trump, I think can take
the bull by the horns with now that he's created
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this commission and actually make reality.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It does seem from the people I've talked here since
the order came on, I've known this sort has come
out for a while, but when it hit that, I
mean publicly, it seems like it kind of caught Democrats
off guard.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
They're actually like, I'm really surprised.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
Right, there's really no pushback from the left on this.
I mean, there's been some silence, right, and there's also
a lot of really well intended, middle of the road
conservation groups that want to give us a chance. And
that's all you can you know, that's all you can
expect from people who are not working on either side
of the aisle. You want people to give us a chance,
and that's what they're doing. There is really no Boddy
(43:32):
who's against making America more beautiful, and so no one
can really come out and say that they're against President
Trump on this. And that's really where the again, the
opportunity lies for him to create a big ticket legacy item.
There's tons of polarizing issues that are going to sway
one way or the other when history looks back on
President Trump's leadership. This one will not waiver. This one
will create a legacy that lasts for generations. His face
(43:54):
would be plastered on Mount Rushmore or wherever he wants
it to be. If he created the next generation of
Teddy Roosevelt's investment in conservation and he became the biggest
and he was talked about instead of Teddy Roselt, that's
the opportunity that's in front of him, and I think
he can take it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That water solving the water crisis would be.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Absolutely huge and means so much in so many different sectors.
And look at just you grocer, my world, this country, agriculture, everything,
absolutely incredible. Benji Zacher with Nature is Non Part is
an excellent work.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Thanks so much for being here, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Absolutely Yeah, you know, John, is hard for Democrats to
message on the issue of conservation, coming from the party
who likes to cover up America's natural.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Beauty with solar panels and winterline.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Mills, coill eagles in the process.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Its yeah, listen, It's really interesting to watch the Democrats
in the last few weeks. They're suddenly re embracing nuclear
which they shut down like New York and California other
going back. It really is remarkable to see how much
their failure has been recognized by the public and now
how they're beginning to internalize it and moving away from
(44:59):
the things that spent trillions of dollars and wasted of
our tax dollars. We're gonna stay here, We're gonna blow
the break because we think President is going to come
up with the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Datya before we
get to that. I had a chance earlier today to
talk to Fred Fleitz, you and I good friends with him,
really one of the great security minds.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
He said something really profound. Now keep in mind he's
a big.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Ally of Israel, we said, been in Israel's corner, but
said he thinks Hamas is so weakened that it will
take the deal that President Trump's been the deal which
Amas always does a headfake thing, and that it never
really makes a deal.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He says it will.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That it's remarkable that Benjamin Datnya who is giving Amas
this window to do it again. They don't deserve it,
but he may do it for the good of the people.
And I found that really interesting. That's a you know,
a signal change from someone who's a very pro Israel
but very smart security guy.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
What could come out of this meeting in the next
twenty four hours pretty important?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, well, and that is a stark departure from what
a lot of people were claiming two weeks ago, which
was that Prime Minister Natya who went behind President Trump's
back and you know, vamboozled him.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
In this attack against Iran.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
And now it seems like, you know, President Trump is
the common sense, pragmatic guy. And I guaran would I
would I would bet that there were conversations between President
Trump and Benjamin Metna who with respect to this ceasefire,
with respect to this deal with ham Austin, President Trump
basically said that Nowhu, look, I have worked very.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Hard on this.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I've put my reputation on the line as a no
wars president because there were a lot of people who
were questioning President Trump in that moment two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
And you know, look where we are now. It's pretty incredible,
it is.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And the Middle East could be facing a really historic
moment of change that wasn't even conceivable six seven.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Months, very and Levenon possibly joined us.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
The series stuff is huge.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Removing the group today from the terrorism list because it's
really acting like a good actor.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And you know what's happy to Saria.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
It's moving away from China and Russia, which is in
the American interest, which Donald Trump evaluates all this by
America first. And you know, it wasn't that long ago
when all foreign policy put the American interest and to
find it as part. But we got away from that
in the Obama years, and since then it has taken
Donald Trump to pull us back. It's pretty remarkable change.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, all right, So speaking of ideology and the ideology
President Trump with no new wars and not having extra
troops overseas. He got Elon Musk who was countering that
no new parties. Yeah, yeah, no new parties. He wants
the American Party, which a lot of people are just
pointing out, Okay, that's just maga, but a lot of
people are saying that it could splinter the Republican Party.
(47:32):
And yet it's people like Mark Cuban who are flirting
with the idea of this party.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So well, listen, there's a lot of history about third
parties being spoilers. A lot of people think the Green
Party hurt Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen in the Midwest States,
Ross prow irrefutably cost George H. W. Bush the presidency
in ninety two, alonging Bill Cutton to come in. There
is a spoiler element here. There also could be a
(47:59):
ghost posturing point here, which is maybe Mosque wants to
use this party threat to get something on the table
in Congress and the Republican Party that he doesn't think
gone far enough, that is spending cuts.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
And I have a funny feeling that.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Donald Trump is working on what Elon Musk wants and
Elon must just hasn't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
He has, yeah, yeah, but I think there.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Might be some stagecraft here. I mean, I'll be interested
if he goes all the way through on this.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I think it's a negotiating play to get more spending cuts,
and I think Donald Trump is pushing more recision bills together.
I think there'll be more more cuts in the near future.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
All right, Well, speaking of those types of fiscal issues,
President Trump announcing twenty five percent tariffs new rates for
Japan and South Korea starting what August first, if they
don't negotiate.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's a heavy hammer, but you got three
weeks if you're the Japanese and the South Koreans. And
those are two great allies. By the way, President Trump
very popular Japan and South Korea if you actually in
the country. They like what he's doing. And the biggest
thing here is to solve this issue so that Japan,
South Korea, and America can work on derailing the China
(49:10):
juggernut that is trying to take over the Pacific. And
so these are really consequential. I think there'll be a
deal before August first. Japan may be the hardest. I
think South Korea might be easier, but we'll see it.
Also India happens between now and then, that will put
some enormous pressure on South Korea.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
In Japan who are in the theater with India.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
I know a lot of ladies across this country who
would be very upset if those tariffs come into play
because of the South. What do they called a Korean
beauty products?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
And also K pop? So you listen to K pop,
don't you? John Sulimon, Let's kape up?
Speaker 10 (49:44):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Is that a cereal?
Speaker 3 (49:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's because sapcackop. I never mind, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It's a genre of music. It's very poppy and uppy.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
It's kind of similar to like the early two thousands with.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Is it in English?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Sometimes?
Speaker 8 (49:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Sometimes can't pop it up?
Speaker 3 (49:58):
You should k pop it up. I'll play some K
pop for you after the show.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Going back to something that Benji was talking about, some
of these initiatives that President Trump can institute.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
You know. I married a Canadian and the first time
I went to Canada and I laughed a belly full
because I did not believe what my future in laws
were telling me, which was that this beautiful, lush thing
that was going over the freeway was an animal overpass,
and I.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Thought it was the funniest thing.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
But it is so true because in Canada, if you
hit an elker amoose, your car is totaled and you
were dead likely. So it's definitely needed there. But there
are places in this country where that is a necessity
as well, and I think that that's something President Trump
could institute across Hall fifty.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You heard Benji Las.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think the water conservation issue is a huge one
of these already working on that for your granted, other places,
it's really important what's going on. I thought we got
some big news today, and I was thinking it's time
right to the day. I got to Judge today saying,
Congress pass the law. I'm blocking it already, but Jim
Jordan saying I might use the power of the purse
to get Judge's attention.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Oh, keep an eye and that one. That's a little
bit of news that happened on this show. Yep.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
I also would really like to see Jim Jordan and
his committee bring Brennan back and ask him the same
questions that they asked him the first time around, and
see what his answers are. Now, now that we have
all of this information courtesy of John Radcliffe, I wonder
if he would be a little bit more amenable to
answering some of those.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, or at least getting him right this time.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
I mean, the facts are just so different in his
testimony versus what we now see in the in the transcript,
So I.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Don't think you would come willingly though, I think it
would probably regard.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
You'll probably want to know if the Justice Department's going
to prosecute him.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting, absolutely, all right, everybody, that's all
the time we have for tonight. If President Trump in
that bylot with Benjamin Ettina, who becomes available to the press,
and we will air it here on Real America's Voice.
But in the meantime, Grant Sinschfield is going to take
you through the next hour and we will see you tomorrow.
Good evening, America, and welcome to the Monday edition of
Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, reporting
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support them, they support us, all right. Tonight, we open
the show with new details on how recently declassified intelligence
is raising questions about the accuracy of testimony that former
Obama CIE director John Brennan gave to Congress. That the
same intelligence also is casting fresh doubts on the plit
surprisablear wards given to you know who the Washington Post
back in twenty eighteen for its coverage of the now
(01:04):
discredited Russia collusion scandal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Let's get you up to speed quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Of course, last week, current CIA director John Radcliffe disc
goes at CI's evidence for claiming in twenty sixteen like
it did that Russia tried to help get Trump elected
was based on faulty spy trade craft, in specifically that
John Brennan personally overruled two career experts by insisting that
the uncorroborated Christopher Steel dasab included in the Intelligence Communities
(01:29):
report to the American people. Now, Brennan testified to Congress
just two years ago that it was the FBI who
pushed to put that faulty Steel d'assier in the Intelligence
community assessment, and that he did not overrule any CIA officials.
Both of those assertions are now being called into question.
I'm even raising about questions about whether he should be prosecuted.
It's important to remember, nine years later, how much that
(01:49):
Intel report cast a pall over the entire first two
years of the Trump presidency, the first Trump presidency, creating
the public perception that the American president might have been
a stooge of Vladimir Pu.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He wasn't, because the now weapons in showing it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But that didn't stop the Washington Post from using that
same Intel report as the genesis for one of the
stories and It's Blit surprise winning package that criticized Trump
for not accepting the claims that Russia tried to help
get him elected. It turns out Trump had good reason
to question that assessment, because even CAREERCYI officials had concerns
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The question last.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Tonight is what can be done about it now, all
these years later? How should you show you? Committee Chairman?
Jim Jordan's going to join us in a second, we're
going to ask it in that question. Before we get
to that, let me turn to my amazing costs, as
we always do at this point in the show.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Amanda head from more Headlines, Amana, what do you get
on your radiar?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Good to see John.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes, we've got a couple more quick things to get
to before we get back to the Chairman. So let's
turn to the tragic and devastating floods that hit Kerrville,
Texas area, early on Friday last week. The Guadalupe River
reportedly rose and astonishing twenty six feet in just forty
five minutes that according.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
To state officials, and the death toll has.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Now increased to ninety five people, including twenty seven young
girls in camp counselors from Camp Mystic that is situated
right there along the Guadalupe River. Rescue efforts, of course,
are still ongoing, and a big part of the debate
is if authorities in the area were notified about the
possible flash flooding, with the mayor of Kerrville, Joe Herring,
(03:15):
saying that he didn't receive any warning about the torrential rainfall.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
However, we do know that a.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Series of alerts were sent out on Wednesday and Thursday
from the National Weather Service. White House Press Secretary Carolyn
Levitt was asked about the government's response before and after.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
The flooding earlier today. Here is what she said.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
The National Weather Service, the Union actually publicly stated they
had an adequate staff on hand to forecast.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Or predate the storm.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You shared your thoughts earlier on.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
How the way the left has really weaponized this to
blame the deaths in Texas on Trump for to.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Camm on that again.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Yeah, I just do think those comments are depraved and despicable,
especially when so many Americans are mourning the loss of
their children.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The National Weather Service, as I said, did its job.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Many experts, many meteorologists have said that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Many of you in the media and all fairness have
said that as well.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Unfortunately, not all we know the National Weather Service provided
early and consistent warnings. They gave out timely flash flood alerts.
There were record breaking lead times in the lead up
to this catastrophe. There is ongoing flood monitoring and these
offices were well staffed.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And the Trump administration says that the President will likely
visit that area on Friday. And we're going to have
more for you later on in the show with Ben Berkwam,
who is down there in Texas doing some really great
reporting on this.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And one last quick note, The.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Department of Justice has stirred up some fury after elaked
memo stated that the dj has found no evidence of
a Jeffrey Epstein client list he was alleged to news
to blackmail high profile people with. In fact, the DOJ
says that a client list never existed at all. And
this goes along with the FBI asserting that Jeffrey Epstein
(04:55):
killed himself and that they didn't have any evidence to
suggest that other foul play was involved. Now, over on
social media, many many pro MAGA accounts are calling for
Attorney General Pam Bondi to resign, and we've reported more
on that over at justinnews dot com, So go check
it out. Over there, John, I am seeing a lot
of outrage on social media about this, this assertion from
(05:17):
the DJ.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, miying it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Let me tell you what I know from all the
reporting I've tried to do on this first there, I
actually covered a story where a guy was accused of
the rule that he died of suicide in prison. It
turned out to be a murder. I was able to
roll back that case from the forensic evidence. Eventually, the
family even won a major settlement from the federal government
for the way they lied about what happened. There isn't
(05:42):
that same evidence in this case. You just don't see
the sort of things forensically or in the timeline that
suggests that everybody I've talked to who've looked at the
video footage and what happened there.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was negligence in the prison.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Maybe they turned a blind eye because they knew he
might be killing himself or something, But they don't seem
to have anything that would suggest someone went in there
and strung them up and killed them. So that's just
the facts are the facts, and I try to stick
to them as a reporter. The second part of this,
and I was always a little perplexed when Pam Bondi
claimed that she had the client list on her, Yes,
because it's not the way from everybody I interviewed around Epstein,
(06:18):
the way he worked. He did have a black book
of all the phone numbers in contexts, and we know
who his friends are, and that black book's been made public.
A guy like him is not going to write down
and say politician A paid me. It just doesn't work
that way because he knows how dangerous it is to
write it down. And I just think that the expectation
was raised higher. I'm not listen. I'm always open to
(06:39):
the idea there's a cover up, and I'm always digging
and we never stopped digging here American mayor's voice and
just the news, but my reporting kind of tracks what
the Justice Department is saying. I think the unfortunate thing
is that an expectation was raised by Pam Bondi and
it wasn't there. And I think she probably should have
been more careful in the words. We know what happened
with those binders. It was kind of an awkward moment
for the Justice Department. Didn't need to be that way, No, But.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I have to think that Pam Bondy as Attorney general.
If she didn't have the goods at that time, that
was a major, major over promise. She had to have
calculated what that would look like to the American people
or not.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Maybe that's the problem she should have calculated.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Maybe that said, well, we're going to have a lot
more it's gonna be a lot more debate for weeks
to come. We're very lucky to kick out the show
today by someone who's on the front line of all
of these important issues. He's the chairman of the House
Judiciary Committee. It was actually his committee that interviewed John
Brendan and got that extraordinary testimony. He is the one
and the only Congressman Jim Jordan, it's the chairman.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Good to have you back on going to be with
you guys.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Thanks for all you do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We love what you do.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Sir.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Let me just start with the new evelations that John
Radcliffe gave us.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You had Brendan in front of your committee.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He said the FBI wanted it not be and I
didn't overrule any CIA officials. Are you going to ask
the Justice Department to investigating for Pertrie?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
But we're looking at this John, because you faimed it right.
He told us when we interviewed him last I guess
last Congress it was in twenty three. He said he
didn't learn about the dossier until December and he got
it from the FBI. That doesn't seem to completely square
with what mister Ratcliffe has uncovered over at CIA, talking
(08:13):
with people who worked on putting the ICA the Intelligence
Community Assessment together. And then if you go back and
you remember this as well, back in twenty seventeen, when
Chairman Goudy interviewed mister Brennan and what he said to
mister Goudy, he specifically Trey asked, did the CIA rely
on the dossier and mister Brennan said no, and it
(08:35):
said he said it was not in any way used
as a basis for the Intelligence Communy assessment. Well, again,
director Ratcliffe is saying that is not true. So it
looks like, specifically when he was asked by Chairman Goudy,
he said something that was not accurate, and looks like
he may have said something that wasn't accurate to mister
Gates and I when we deposed him in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Chairman, even if there was some type of legal recourse.
I think that the American people would prefer to have
these questions proffered to Brennan again in the public eye
and not in some investigation room. Would you bring Brennan
before the committee again and ask them the same question.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Everything's on the table. And if you remember when we
deposed mister Brennan a little over a year ago, we
did so in the context largely of the fifty one
Intel former Intel officials, the fifty one who misled the
entire country in the run up to the twenty twenty
election about saying the Russian information that the laptop was
(09:37):
had all the hallmarks or earmarks of a Russian information operation.
So we were but we did get into as our reference,
we did get into the whole twenty six, twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen effort, of the whole Russia collusion issue as well.
So everything's on the table. WILL want to take a
look at this and we'll see what else mister Ratcliffe
(09:58):
may do, or what if anything, the Department of Justice
may do, what Attorney General Bonding may do with this
information as well.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, really important.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So I want to turn to another piece of work
that you've been doing, such important enlightenment to the American people,
and that is the censorship machinery that was put into place.
You've exposed all the sensors, all the social media censorship.
Now you're finding how that censorship machine went a step
further and tried to be basically financially to platform people
that didn't agree with liberals advertising blockades. Tell us what
(10:30):
you're learning and how severe the impact might have been
on organizations like Real America's Voice, just the News or
others who were trying to tell the truth years ago.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Well, the good news is Garment is out of business.
But garm was doing what you just described, John gar
Garma was basically saying telling people, all, we think it's
a reputational risk if you advertise on certain websites, certain platforms.
We think that's a problem. And as a result, you
would get companies who just would who just want to
(11:00):
uh advertising and conservative outlets like like yours or others.
And so we're going to continue to focus on that
effort and make sure that make sure we can stop
that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Uh, mister chairman.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Some news that came out recently about the d o
J regarding Jeffrey Epstein and it seems like the American
people are not buying in this. Actually seems like one
of those issues at the left and right are united
on in that if there's an Epstein.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
List, they wanted what is going on behind the scenes?
Speaker 8 (11:24):
You think, well, again, I have the utmost confidence in
the Attorney General and the and the Deputy Attorney General
and director of Hotel and assistant director of Bongino. I
think these these are good folks. And I've seen a
difference night and day when when we deal with them
and our committee, Judiciary Committee dealing with the Justice Department.
So how the most confidence in them. If this is
(11:46):
what this is, what the facts and the evidence show,
then then that's what it is. I know there were
a lot of people who thought that there was there
was something something there, but you know, we will we
will take uh, we will take the Attorney General and
the and the director. It's our words. I know they're
doing good work. In so many years I always put
out I think it was the second day he was
on the job, we said seven subpoenas to director of
(12:08):
Padel and it was a night and day. The compliance
we got with those documents and information we requested was
just so different than it was with Chris Ray, and
of course Attorney General Darland Sarah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I know you keep an eye close on the judiciary,
particularly the lower courts where there's been a lot of
unconstitutional rulings to keep getting overturned by the Supreme Court.
Some judges don't seem to have taken their cue from
the Supreme Court's recent rulings. Tell us where you are
just monitoring the situation, whether we might see some sort
of action from Congress to rein.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
This in Well, we got three courses of action we
can do. We can we can pass legislation which we've
already done in the Judiciary Committee in the House, which
is Darryl Lysi's bill, which said, you know that these
six hundred and seventy seven federal district judges, when it
comes to issuing injunctions, the injunction shouldn't apply nationwide. It's
just applied to the parties in that case in that
(13:00):
respective jurisdiction. We think that's common sense, and frankly, the
Supreme Court said as much two weeks ago. So we
got legislation, We've had oversight hearings, we had former Speaker
Gingrichen and he talked about it and gave a good
historical perspective on this whole issue. And then I think
we've got to look at the appropriations process. You know,
the the judicial conferences asked for a big, big raise
in their budget. I think we need to take a
(13:21):
look at that and decide, Okay, we want to make
sure the security of court officials is taken care of,
because you know, we remember what happened to Judge Kavanaugh
and the threats on his life. It's the assassination attempt
that he had to get through, so we'd understand that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But there may be.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
Ways we can use the power of the purse, which
is again what the founders thought that was the biggest
power that the legislative had relative to the others. So
I think we're looking at that process as it unfolds
here over the next three months as well.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So quickly before we let you go, should Chief Justice
John Roberts weigh in on it?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Is there something that he can do well?
Speaker 8 (13:59):
There is interesting thing because not just teach us that,
John Robert, but Associate Justice Kagan has said that this
injunction issue, she felt it should only apply to parties
in the case in that jurisdiction and shouldn't have nationwide implications.
So even liberal justices have said so. I think it'd
(14:20):
become a nice maybe if the Chief Justice said as much.
But again, we got that good decision which said basically
it's limited to the parties in the case, which I
thought was a great decision from the court. It was
a six or three decision two weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and attracts exactly where you were working on the
Judiciary Committee. So a good union, amity there, sir. It's
always a great honor. I know, how busy r Thank
you for joining us on a vis Monday.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Thank you guys, Thank care.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Great to have you on on a great interview. As always,
always learned so much from Amanda. All Right, we're going
to take a quick rouk for make one come back.
We got another law maker here from Congress, Congressman Nick
Beggant from the great state of Alaska's going to join us.
A lot of discussing that big, beautiful bill plus.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 4 (16:28):
Welcome back to just the News, No Noise. That big
beautiful bill met its July fourth deadline set by President
Trump and it is now the law of the land.
And I couldn't have gotten done without a key vote
flip in the Senate. That would be from Alaska Senator
Lisa Murkowski deciding to vote for the bill after she
had initially signaled that she might not. So with us
now to discuss part of the reason why Senator Murkowski
(16:50):
voted for the bill and the impact that it's going
to have now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That it is laws.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Congressman Nick Baggage from Alaska. Congressman Beggage, thanks so much for.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Being with us.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Thanks for having me good here.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You know, I remember I think it was sometime around
the R and C last year we had the other
Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan on our show and he talked
about the sixty six executive orders signed by Joe Biden
that directly affected the state of Alaska. I have a
feeling that maybe that and oil has something to do
with Lisa Mrikalski Flibby.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You know what's amazing in the Big Beautiful Bill. One
of the things that hasn't really been talked about yet
is the fact that we are mandating oil and gas
lead sales in Alaska to the tune of thirty million acres.
And just to give sense of the size, what does
thirty million acres look like. Well, it's almost the size
of the state of Florida. And it's thirty five times
(17:43):
more than was leased under the twenty seventeen Tax Cuts
and Jobs Act. It's transformational for the state of Alaska.
It's huge for the nation, unlocking Alaska's energy resources on
behalf of all Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, so very important.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now, just a few minutes ago, a federal judges and
whos is reporting this?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Federal judge has blocked the plan Parenthood defunding that was
in the One, Big Beautiful Bill was Congress's intention they
passed it. Here's another district judge getting in the way.
I think gets your reaction to just how these judges
have been acting on so many of these cases recently.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, and as our Chairman Jim Jordan just mentioned in
the previous segment, you know, we have a serious problem
with activist judges across the country that are exceeding their
jurisdictional authority, and the Supreme Court just ruled, look, you
don't have the authority to make nationwide injunctions within your district.
And I think this is one more example where this
(18:39):
is going to have to run up the courts to
the Supreme Court, where they're going to continue to have
to tell these district judges, look, your scope of authority
is limited. And I think they made the right decision
in that six to three decision recently, and it seems
as though they're going to have to continue to make
those same judgments as it pertains to these district courts.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Congressman, last week we had a number of members of
Congress come on the show and they sounded disappointed with
some of the changes that the Senate had made and
had indicated that they thought that the timeline of Friday
might come and go without the billeting pass. Obviously that
didn't happen, so that's good. But as far as the
provisions in there that were changed or altered or added
(19:21):
or taken away by the Senate. I know that compromise
can sometimes be painful, but maybe it's a little less
painful now that the House seems very interested in utilizing
recisions going forward. You anticipate that's going to be something
to lessen the brunt of the blow of those of
those compromises.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I do think we need to continue to look at recisions.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
We saw the first recisions package actually move through the
House before the Budget Reconciliation package was passed, and I'm
hopeful that that's the first of many. We saw a
number of items identified through the DOGE workstream that need
to be removed from the approved budget, and only Congress
(20:01):
can do that through the recisions process. We're told that
the administration has been queuing up additional recisions packages, and
I know that my colleagues in the House are looking
forward to reviewing those packages and reducing the size and
scope of government where there's waste, fraud, and abuse.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, plenty of work ahead on that front, but a
good start, you know, when you let people forget that,
this big, beautiful bill is probably the largest single reduction
in the size of government a long time, and so
it's a good start and lots more runway to keep going.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I want to turn to the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Revelations from John Radcliffe, the CIA director, last week that
the intelligence community knew that its intelligence community assessment claiming
that Trump was being helped by Russia to win the
election was faulty. John Brennan specifically is accused in that report,
with the evidence backing it up, to overroll the career
people who didn't want the Steele Dossi included in that
(20:55):
we look back. I know it's nine years ago, but
it's left a large shadow over the Intelligence Committee. Your
thirds on what we learned and how we're going to
fix it going forward.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Look, I think what we've seen is that leadership at
times within the intelligence community has prevented the rank and
file of that community, who has access to the raw data,
from presenting that data to the American people, and the
intelligence community has become a political weapon of the left,
utilized both in the twenty sixteen election in the twenty
(21:27):
twenty two rather than the twenty twenty four election. We
saw it in twenty twenty as well, and when we
saw the Laptop from Hell with.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Biden's son, we.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Were told that was Russian disinformation. Nothing could have been
further from the truth. That was his own behavior on
full display to the entire nation, and we saw the
intelligence community wrap their people around that narrative, and it
was straight up false. And so additional work needs to
be done with in the intelligence community to ensure that
(22:02):
the information flowing from our intelligence sources is nonpartisan, and
is accurate and is vetted. And unfortunately, in these last
several years, we have not seen that. And I'm very
hopeful that under the Trump administration, we'll be able to
clean that out, restore confidence in our intelligence communities analysis packages,
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and when that's presented to the American public, there'll be
confidence that what we're getting is the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Really important, Karrasmon, I want to tie that in with
the distrust that still persists today, because whether you're talking
about that whole saga with Brennan and Clapper and Comy
and Weisman and that whole cast of characters.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Now we are.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Dealing with a DOJ who is asserting that the Epstein
files don't exist.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
There was no client list.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And even though this administration, the FBI under Cash Betel
and the DOJ under Pam BONDI I think they are
doing their best to be transparent and to get the
truth out to the American people, but they're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That past distrust.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
How do they walk that tightrope between getting the American
people what they need and deserve to have as Americans
to know out of their government, but also, you know,
doing their jobs and making sure that they are protecting
what needs to be protected.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think the American people need to remember that this
is the first administration that release all of the JFK files.
This is an administration that is committed to transparency and
has proven that they're committed to transparency both in the
first Trump term and in these first six months of
Trump two point zero. So I think there should be
a lot of confidence that has been restored. I recognize
(23:35):
that there's a lot of concern around these particular files
and some of the statements that have been made in
the past.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
We know that there's information.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
The FBI and others investigated this in the past. We
resulted in a conviction of Jeffrey Epstein and his co
conspirator in all of this, and so we know that
there are files, We know that there is information, and
I say, look, reveal that in to the American public
present to the American public what's available.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I have high.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Confidence that the Trump administration is committed to transparency based
on what we have seen in this administration as it
relates to other files and other promises that have been made.
And I'm sure that they are working diligently to go
through all the information that is available and present to
the public.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, that's definitely what we all need and want. So
before I let you go and I serve on how
natural resources. There was a fun posting on x from
the Energy Department last week Drill, Mind, build, and then repeat,
and it just gave us a sense of just how
much the world has changed. The key word there is mining.
We haven't had a lot of mining opportunities in the
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last four or five years, quite frankly in the last
decade or two. How important are the Trump's reforms to
mining and getting mining started in America again to the
future of our economy.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
It's absolutely crucial.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
When you think about China, they have weaponized their own
supply chain.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
They have restricted our ability to access.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Rare earth minerals and certain critical minerals like gallium and
germanium and animony, and these are things that are necessary
in the high tech industries are necessary for national defense. Unfortunately,
we've allowed China to control in some cases one hundred
percent of the refining capacity of these critical minerals. We
have to restore our ability to refine and produce those
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minerals here at home. Fortunately, Alaska has forty nine of
the fifty critical minerals on our Critical Minerals list in
economic quantities. What President Trump is doing is transformational, it's generational.
It's necessary for us to restore our own sovereignty and
national security. Alaska is going to play a really important
(25:44):
role moving forward in making sure that happens.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, that's going to be really exciting to see where
this country is with respective domestic energy production in the
next year. And that's going to be in huge thanks
to the state of Alaska. Congressman Vegget from the Great
State of Alaska, thanks so much for spending some time.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
With us here night. Thank you, absolutely all right.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Next, we're going to get you to ravzvari own bin Berkwam,
who is reporting down there from the site of those
devastating floods in central Texas.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
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And so while we were here.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So and then we just have this left hang in.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
So I just kind of like get out of here.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
And this and this is all water, all water, all
water up to here.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And so we went through Jack's roof all the way
I was we.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Were just swepped away. I wasn't swimming.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I was bubbing about my husband glee.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
So you got pulled out, pulled out, Yeah, so my
husband grab me, you can grab the tree.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But we called nine with one.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, we were still here before before the water get
up on Ebody.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Came amazing, almost pulled out of her house by the
rushing water. Say by here osen. What you just watched
was from Rasberry own Ben Berkram talking to Juliet well Then,
who lost her home to the devastating floods in Kerville, Texas.
We just got an update a few minutes ago. It's
a tragic update. The death toll from that those floods
are now over one hundred, more than a quarter of
(28:28):
them young children who are at a camp joining us
now to discuss more of what he's seeing on the ground,
reporting for Real America's Voice, our very own Ben berkram Ben,
good to have you on. I wish it was under
different circumstances, though.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, as do I.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
This is as a I mean I've been struggling with
it all weekend, as a dad of three young girls.
This is you know what you fear the most, and
you almost have no words. And unfortunately that number is
going to continue to rise. Total number of missing is
they're not releasing it. But when I asked this morning,
they said they weren't going to release a number. I said, dozens.
(29:06):
Are we talking dozens or hundreds? They said, it's bad.
It's bad, so you can presume the worst in that.
So it's just yeah, it's tragic. It's an absolute tragic event.
And just pray for this community.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And as he witnessed the resources and the help coming
in and out, I know that Governor Greg Abbott immediately
called for all state resources to be deployed, and then
President Trump all federal resources.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Are they getting everything they need?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
From the beginning, I mean I arrived. The day it happened,
I was actually on my way home for Fourth of July,
as the first fourth of July I was going to
spend with my girls in four years, been on the
road ever since, and I was.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Excited about that.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
And I heard about this, and we made the call
that this is too important not to cover as a dad,
you know, I think about my daughter's missing Fourth of July,
but at least I get to go home to them,
and watching what happened here when I got here, watching
the local first responders and the state first responders and
(30:09):
the federal guys coming in, it is the best response
I've ever seen out It's one of the worst tragedies
I've ever seen too, but it could be so much
worse when they when they they these guys have rescued
close to a thousand people. I mean, it's just what
they've done is nothing short of heroic. And they've been
going non stop. We're over seventy two hours into this.
(30:31):
They have been NonStop from the beginning, from that moment
that you know, we first realized how bad it was,
because nobody, nobody estimated that it was going to be
this bad. Nobody, you know, the high numbers on rain
totals were ten inches in some areas. We're talking twenty
you know, fifteen to twenty inches in some places. And
the fact that it parked where it did for such
(30:53):
a long time, feeding into the North and South Fork,
I mean, and that it happened to be one of
the busiest weekends of the year down here. It was
just a sequence of variables that led to an absolute disaster.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And it's tragic.
Speaker 9 (31:09):
But it's also you know, you look at these heroes
that are out there putting their lives on the line.
At the same time, God bless them. Pray for this community,
but also pray for these guys men and women that
are out there just given everything they have to help
save any lives they can.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, it is remarkable, and it's in the face of tragedy,
Americans always step up. It's such an amazing dynamic we
have in this country. You talked about how on precedent
it was. I think I read in some of the transcripts,
twenty six foot rise in a river in just one hour,
forty five minutes. Nobody could prepare for that level of devastation, right.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
No, and at the worst possible time, at three in
the morning, everyone's asleep, everyone's going into the fourth of
July weekend. And so just to give you an idea,
where I'm standing, the bridge there was the water was
to that level. I'm below that, so this I would
actually be underwater here. So think about from here where
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I'm standing, to the houses across the street, all the
way to the shopping center way off in the distance
over there, all of this turned into water in around
an hour and at three in the morning. So even
if you're getting the alerts are going out, the warnings
are going out, everyone's sleeping. And if you're not sleeping,
then it becomes the question of do I leave my house,
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which is my sanctuary, go into a car, which I'm
told not to do in a flood, and drive down
hill country roads many of which I presume are already.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Flooded as well.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
So you were left with this terrible dilemma, and the
first responders were as well, and the city officials were
as well. Do we call people and say evacuate or
do we say shelter in places? It was just a
no win situation at the worst possible time, on the
worst possible weekend, and tragically, see in the results.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, Ben, I spoke earlier today to Texas Land Commissioner
Don Buckingham, and I was asking her some of the
solutions to this problem. But you're there on the ground,
you're seeing any gaps in coverage and resources. But like
you said, I mean, there's this level of unpredictability and
you're stuck in this chasm between do we shelter in
(33:22):
place or do we run? What do you see as
a need that should be filled for next time?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
Well, I think the first off is to do a
deep analysis of what happened, how it happened, why it happened,
and what potential solutions there were that could have been
measures that could have been taken to not prevent it obviously,
but to mitigate the damage. And you look at all
those options. You know, it's early warning on sirens. Do
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you know we have those for tornadoes? Do we need
something like that here? Local community outreach, There's all these
things that could be done. I think you look at
all those and say, Okay, what are reasonable steps that
we could take to address this in the future. Understanding
that this is a you know, once in one hundred
year flood, This is not a common occurrence.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Even in this area.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know, they have floods, but to get to this
level is very very infrequent. So I think you look
at all the options and you say, what are the
best options, and you choose solutions that are best, you know,
for those for the problem. And I think they'll do that.
Knowing President Trump, that's what he does. That's what every
business owner does anytime there's a problem in the business
(34:36):
in our country. President Trump does that all the time.
And I think they're going to do that. But sometimes,
you know, you look at nature and you look at
there's some things that are just completely outside of our control.
There's saying some things you just can't predict, and even
when they happen, they happen so fast that you don't
have time. And so you know, I say, you look
at it all, you come up with the best solutions,
(34:57):
but you understand we're finite beings on a finite planet,
and you just pray that you know where you're going
when you leave.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, wise words and great coverage.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Band.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You've made this so understandable for us, And I know
you're working hard hours in difficult circumstances. Anything that the
people Texas need from us, right now's anything we can
do at home.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Well, if you want to give, there's a Texas Hill
Country Foundation community foundation. That's the one they're asking people
to give to. It goes directly to the local communities.
I've been asking since I got here on Friday, and
we've heard from the beginning they have enough. They have
enough response from they have enough people on the ground
doing the searches, they have enough food, they have enough
(35:40):
you know, all of the supplies. But this is not
a day problem, a week problem, a month problem. This
is a year's problem. And so I would just say
be ready.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They will need more.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Not just monetarily, but psychologically. You know, this is going
to be a community that's going to have to rebuild
physically and emotionally. And so continue the prayers. Continue to
if you can give there again, give to the local
community foundation and pray. And then also understand it's not
just Kurville. It's multiple counties around this region that have
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been affected by this. So and most people don't have
flood insurance because it's it's exorbitantly expensive where you just
can't afford it. And so this is you know, that's
one of those things.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
There there will.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Be needs and needs and needs.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
As this continues to unfold.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, as words and great coverage has always been. You
do such a great job on the most dangerous assignments.
We're grateful for your work here and the time you
spend with us. Say thanks for doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Trying to take quick commercial break.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Next, President Trump signed an order last week that are
supposed to help make America beautiful again. We'll tell you
how the President plans to do that after these quick messages.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Welcome back to justin News, no noise. A quick note
before we get to our next guest. We are keeping
a very close eye on an anti Israel protest that
is popped up here at DC outside of the White House.
This is an Israeli Prime This ass Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanya, who of course is set to arrive. And
that's in the small box on your screen. So if
anything happens, we're going to get you right out to it.
(37:25):
But for something a bit lighter, President Trump took a
big step to accomplishing another one of his campaign promises
last week, making America beautiful again. And he did it
by signing the aptly named of Make America Beautiful Again.
Executive Order which creates a council to help the government
preserve America's abundant natural beauty. So joining us now to
talk about it is the founder and CEO of Nature
(37:46):
Is Nonpartisan, a group that helped work on this latest
executive order. Benji Backer, Benji, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It is great to be here.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I know you are intimately knowledgeable on all this entails
tell us about. Because we've got Maga, Maha, and now
we got Maba.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
It's the three mas. I don't know how else we
can call it, but it's really exciting. I mean really,
it's a new day of conservation in the United States,
and President Trump has a real opportunity to follow this
Executive up order up with some of the most historic
conservation efforts since Teddy Roosevelt. Americans in America and in
our environment is in disrepair. We have historic wildfire seasons
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every year, our coasts are eroding. We have some really
bad damages happening to our environment every single day. Our
national parks are in crippling debt, and we need a leader,
a bold leader, to create visionary policies to bring us
to the next generation of conservation. That's exactly what this
executive order does. It creates a commission that will be
led by Doug Burgham, another great conservationist, to create big
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and bold solutions to solve some of the biggest environmental
challenges in American history that we are facing today. But
it's not about climate, it's not about energy. It's about
our physical environment and how do we make America's beauty
that we all love and you enjoy with our recreation
and our access to these places, how do we make
them healthy for future generations and not just watch them
wither away and delay action, which we've done over the
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last few decades.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It's a really big step.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, we put trillions of dollars into investments that didn't
actually solve the problem, and yet there were really pragmatic solutions.
What I love about this, Benji, is that and I'm
old enough to remember when Ronald Reagan was taking care
of the ozone hole in the sky and just you know,
pragmatically dealt with it, and they take a lot of regulation,
just kind it done. She'll say, I'm old enough to
remember Teddy Roosevelt creating the National Park System.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
The Republicans, that'd be pretty cool this issue. They got
chased out of it.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You're opening the door with this to make conservation fashionable
again for conservatives, which they always have been conservationists.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Well, we've really lost our way on this issue as
Americans because we've made it a political issue. The left
has made it an alarmist issue. It's not about actually
saving the environment. It's about promoting programs that help leftist causes.
And this is a really big opportunity for us to
step in and say, hey, this is actually about the
environment again. There's a lot of Democrats as well that
want to team up and give President Trump a win
(40:12):
on this. This is an eighty twenty issue. This is
something that Americans really want across the political spectrum, and
from a legacy standpoint, Donald Trump couldn't have picked a
bigger or better issue to leave it on than conservation.
This is something that's been part of our heritage forever,
and presidents across the aisle used to work together to
get things done. It's been politicized, it's been partisanized, and
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it's put our environment at risk of being ruined. And
we have the best environment in the world.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
We truly do.
Speaker 10 (40:38):
But we have some of the biggest challenges that we've
ever faced, and it takes a visionary leader like Donald
Trump to understand that he can go in there and
help fix it. Now, that doesn't mean that the government
is going to be part of every single thing. There's
going to be a lot of voluntary incentives. There's gonna
be a lot of public private partnerships working with local NGOs,
local governments, state governments who often know how to take
care of their land better than the federal government does.
(41:00):
There's going to be a lot of great partnerships that
come from this, and it's not just going to be
a one size fits all, big government answer. But I've
been to tell you a lot of Democrats and Republicans
over the last few days since the EO is signed,
and there is a lot of excitement in the conservation
community to get things done across the political spectrum here.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Absolutely, are we getting access to President Trump's by a
lot with you know?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Is that what I think? In a few seconds, we're
going to be switching over there.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Yeah, Okay, so we can throw to Benji you want
to hang tight and we'll keep you on the other
side of you don't have yet.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay, Lordy, Lordy, too many signals coming in my ear.
All right, Benji.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Then I have to ask you about the big Prize,
because I believe it was Grant in the eighteen seventies
who established Yellowstone and that was the first national park,
and then of course Teddy Roosevelt greatly expanded it. So
is there a big ticket item for President Trump that
when people look back one hundred years from now, they
say that that's the guy who did that.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Well.
Speaker 10 (41:55):
I think he can solve the water crisis in the West.
I think he can solve the water crisis in the East.
I think he can reforce America's forests. I think he
can build wildlife corridors with local involvement, so not putting
ranchers and farmers as the enemy, but actually working with them.
I think he can make massive wildlife corridors that allow
wildlife to thrive and give hunting and fishing communities the
access that they need. I think he can do all
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of that, and I think that he will. I think
he can make the national parks profitable again. I mean,
there's so many different things. These are huge, big ticket
items that you can look back on It's not just
going to be one thing. It could be all these
things and let me just even tease something else out.
He could look at the inner you know, this is
a really interesting opportunity to look at making America's international
park system and work with our allies and adversaries to
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protect America's beauty, but also not just America's beauty, their
beauty as well in the way that American conservation has
led on. So there's so many opportunities here, and I
think that we're going to look back at this and
say Donald Trump was the best conservation president in American history.
That's the opportunity that we have in front of us,
and that's something that President Trump, I think can take
the bull by the horns with now that he's created
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this commission and actually make reality.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It does seem from the people I've talked here since
the order came on, I've known this sort has come
out for a while, but when it hit that, I
mean publicly, it seems like it kind of caught Democrats
off guard.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
They're actually like, I'm really surprised.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
Right, there's really no pushback from the left on this.
I mean, there's been some silence, right, and there's also
a lot of really well intended, middle of the road
conservation groups that want to give us a chance. And
that's all you can you know, that's all you can
expect from people who are not working on either side
of the aisle. You want people to give us a chance,
and that's what they're doing. There is really no Boddy
(43:32):
who's against making America more beautiful, and so no one
can really come out and say that they're against President
Trump on this. And that's really where the again, the
opportunity lies for him to create a big ticket legacy item.
There's tons of polarizing issues that are going to sway
one way or the other when history looks back on
President Trump's leadership. This one will not waiver. This one
will create a legacy that lasts for generations. His face
(43:54):
would be plastered on Mount Rushmore or wherever he wants
it to be. If he created the next generation of
Teddy Roosevelt's investment in conservation and he became the biggest
and he was talked about instead of Teddy Roselt, that's
the opportunity that's in front of him, and I think
he can take it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That water solving the water crisis would be.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Absolutely huge and means so much in so many different sectors.
And look at just you grocer, my world, this country, agriculture, everything,
absolutely incredible. Benji Zacher with Nature is Non Part is
an excellent work.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Thanks so much for being here, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Absolutely Yeah, you know, John, is hard for Democrats to
message on the issue of conservation, coming from the party
who likes to cover up America's natural.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Beauty with solar panels and winterline.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Mills, coill eagles in the process.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Its yeah, listen, It's really interesting to watch the Democrats
in the last few weeks. They're suddenly re embracing nuclear
which they shut down like New York and California other
going back. It really is remarkable to see how much
their failure has been recognized by the public and now
how they're beginning to internalize it and moving away from
(44:59):
the things that spent trillions of dollars and wasted of
our tax dollars. We're gonna stay here, We're gonna blow
the break because we think President is going to come
up with the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Datya before we
get to that. I had a chance earlier today to
talk to Fred Fleitz, you and I good friends with him,
really one of the great security minds.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
He said something really profound. Now keep in mind he's
a big.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Ally of Israel, we said, been in Israel's corner, but
said he thinks Hamas is so weakened that it will
take the deal that President Trump's been the deal which
Amas always does a headfake thing, and that it never
really makes a deal.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
He says it will.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
That it's remarkable that Benjamin Datnya who is giving Amas
this window to do it again. They don't deserve it,
but he may do it for the good of the people.
And I found that really interesting. That's a you know,
a signal change from someone who's a very pro Israel
but very smart security guy.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
What could come out of this meeting in the next
twenty four hours pretty important?
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, well, and that is a stark departure from what
a lot of people were claiming two weeks ago, which
was that Prime Minister Natya who went behind President Trump's
back and you know, vamboozled him.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
In this attack against Iran.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
And now it seems like, you know, President Trump is
the common sense, pragmatic guy. And I guaran would I
would I would bet that there were conversations between President
Trump and Benjamin Metna who with respect to this ceasefire,
with respect to this deal with ham Austin, President Trump
basically said that Nowhu, look, I have worked very.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Hard on this.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I've put my reputation on the line as a no
wars president because there were a lot of people who
were questioning President Trump in that moment two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
And you know, look where we are now. It's pretty incredible,
it is.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And the Middle East could be facing a really historic
moment of change that wasn't even conceivable six seven.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Months, very and Levenon possibly joined us.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
The series stuff is huge.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Removing the group today from the terrorism list because it's
really acting like a good actor.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And you know what's happy to Saria.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
It's moving away from China and Russia, which is in
the American interest, which Donald Trump evaluates all this by
America first. And you know, it wasn't that long ago
when all foreign policy put the American interest and to
find it as part. But we got away from that
in the Obama years, and since then it has taken
Donald Trump to pull us back. It's pretty remarkable change.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, all right, So speaking of ideology and the ideology
President Trump with no new wars and not having extra
troops overseas. He got Elon Musk who was countering that
no new parties. Yeah, yeah, no new parties. He wants
the American Party, which a lot of people are just
pointing out, Okay, that's just maga, but a lot of
people are saying that it could splinter the Republican Party.
(47:32):
And yet it's people like Mark Cuban who are flirting
with the idea of this party.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So well, listen, there's a lot of history about third
parties being spoilers. A lot of people think the Green
Party hurt Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen in the Midwest States,
Ross prow irrefutably cost George H. W. Bush the presidency
in ninety two, alonging Bill Cutton to come in. There
is a spoiler element here. There also could be a
(47:59):
ghost posturing point here, which is maybe Mosque wants to
use this party threat to get something on the table
in Congress and the Republican Party that he doesn't think
gone far enough, that is spending cuts.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
And I have a funny feeling that.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Donald Trump is working on what Elon Musk wants and
Elon must just hasn't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
He has, yeah, yeah, but I think there.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Might be some stagecraft here. I mean, I'll be interested
if he goes all the way through on this.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I think it's a negotiating play to get more spending cuts,
and I think Donald Trump is pushing more recision bills together.
I think there'll be more more cuts in the near future.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
All right, Well, speaking of those types of fiscal issues,
President Trump announcing twenty five percent tariffs new rates for
Japan and South Korea starting what August first, if they
don't negotiate.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's a heavy hammer, but you got three
weeks if you're the Japanese and the South Koreans. And
those are two great allies. By the way, President Trump
very popular Japan and South Korea if you actually in
the country. They like what he's doing. And the biggest
thing here is to solve this issue so that Japan,
South Korea, and America can work on derailing the China
(49:10):
juggernut that is trying to take over the Pacific. And
so these are really consequential. I think there'll be a
deal before August first. Japan may be the hardest. I
think South Korea might be easier, but we'll see it.
Also India happens between now and then, that will put
some enormous pressure on South Korea.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
In Japan who are in the theater with India.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
I know a lot of ladies across this country who
would be very upset if those tariffs come into play
because of the South. What do they called a Korean
beauty products?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
And also K pop? So you listen to K pop,
don't you? John Sulimon, Let's kape up?
Speaker 10 (49:44):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Is that a cereal?
Speaker 3 (49:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's because sapcackop. I never mind, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It's a genre of music. It's very poppy and uppy.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
It's kind of similar to like the early two thousands with.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Is it in English?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Sometimes?
Speaker 8 (49:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Sometimes can't pop it up?
Speaker 3 (49:58):
You should k pop it up. I'll play some K
pop for you after the show.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Going back to something that Benji was talking about, some
of these initiatives that President Trump can institute.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
You know. I married a Canadian and the first time
I went to Canada and I laughed a belly full
because I did not believe what my future in laws
were telling me, which was that this beautiful, lush thing
that was going over the freeway was an animal overpass,
and I.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Thought it was the funniest thing.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
But it is so true because in Canada, if you
hit an elker amoose, your car is totaled and you
were dead likely. So it's definitely needed there. But there
are places in this country where that is a necessity
as well, and I think that that's something President Trump
could institute across Hall fifty.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You heard Benji Las.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think the water conservation issue is a huge one
of these already working on that for your granted, other places,
it's really important what's going on. I thought we got
some big news today, and I was thinking it's time
right to the day. I got to Judge today saying,
Congress pass the law. I'm blocking it already, but Jim
Jordan saying I might use the power of the purse
to get Judge's attention.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Oh, keep an eye and that one. That's a little
bit of news that happened on this show. Yep.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
I also would really like to see Jim Jordan and
his committee bring Brennan back and ask him the same
questions that they asked him the first time around, and
see what his answers are. Now, now that we have
all of this information courtesy of John Radcliffe, I wonder
if he would be a little bit more amenable to
answering some of those.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, or at least getting him right this time.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
I mean, the facts are just so different in his
testimony versus what we now see in the in the transcript,
So I.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Don't think you would come willingly though, I think it
would probably regard.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
You'll probably want to know if the Justice Department's going
to prosecute him.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Yeah, it's pretty interesting, absolutely, all right, everybody, that's all
the time we have for tonight. If President Trump in
that bylot with Benjamin Ettina, who becomes available to the press,
and we will air it here on Real America's Voice.
But in the meantime, Grant Sinschfield is going to take
you through the next hour and we will see you tomorrow.
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