August 4, 2025 • 49 mins
Just the News No Noise on Real America's Voice
Segment A: BONDI ORDERS EVIDENCE SENT TO GRAND JURY FOR RUSSIA COLLUSION HOAX
Segment B: HOW ONE LAWSUIT HELPED LEAD TO ALL OF THE RUSSIAGATE EVIDENCE COMING OUT NOW
Segment C: PLANNED PARENTHOOD 'MEGACENTER' IN HOUSTON CLOSING DOWN
Segment D: THE LATEST U.K. ANTI-FREE SPEECH LAW
Segment E: COULD RUSSIAGATE GRAND JURY BE PANELED IN FLORIDA?
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Good evening, America, Happy Monday. Welcome to the latest edition
of Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon,
reporting to you, as always from the Nation's Capital, where
the heat just got a little more uncomfortable for people
like John Brennan and James Comy wide. Just a few
hours ago, we have confirmed here at justin News that
Attorney General Pambody has given the okay for a grand
(00:42):
jury to be in panel to begin looking at evidence
of the Russia collusion hoax, starting a ten year conspiracy
to potentially deprive civil liberties in America. People like Mike Flynn,
President Trump, George Papadopolis and Carter Page and many others
brought up in it over the course of the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is a major development.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We told you last week that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General,
had given permission for a strike force to begin. That's
a very specific tool the Justice Department uses on major conspiracies,
and we told you then we would know it was
getting serious when the grand jury jumped into action. We
now know that a grand jury will be and paneled.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Most likely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
My sources are telling me it could be in Florida,
where the raid of President Trump's bar A Lago home
help and so that is the very latest. You could
check it out at justin News. We're going to have
a whole lot more in that over the course of
the next few hours of meantime, it was announced over
the weekend that the Office of Special Console, that's the
whistleblower office in Washington. It also enforces a Hattack that
(01:44):
they have formally opened an inquiry into former Special Consul
Jack Smith. So there's two different special consuls. Jack Smith's
a special counselor went after Donald Trump. The Office of
the Special Console something entirely different, so you don't get confused.
If you remember, Jack Smith led the classified documents case
against President Trump, the one that ended up leading to
a raid on mar A Lago, and eventually the case
(02:04):
was dismissed by a federal judge from many grounds, including
the fact that Jack Smith wasn't lawfully appointed as a
special counsel. It turns out that the Hatch Act Unit
at the Office of Special Counsel is.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Handling that investigation.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
In questions from a whistle blow on others about whether
he was acting in a political manner when he conducted
himself as that special prosecutor. That is a major question.
The law is very clear about that. You can't mix
politics and government business. We're going to get more on
that over the next few days, but that's the latest
too big headlines.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I know you're interested in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Great time to bring in my amazing coast Amanda Hedges.
He had some great work all week and long on
White House coverage and she's got to the other headlines.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
What sun, Thank you, John.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I got to say that that first headline gave me
a little extra pep in my step considering.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How long was the big deal on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's a big There were a long way from criminal charges,
but it's they're following the process the way you're supposed
to go exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right, So how about the drama and holding in
the lone Star state. It all started over a redistricting
vote that would see more Republicans going to the US
House from Texas, and Democrats in the state are basically
powerless to stop it, except for one move. Dozens of
Democrats in the state legislature decided to not just not
show up for the vote, they fled the state entirely.
(03:18):
The majority of them went to Chicago, Albany and Boston,
and because of that, Texas Governor Greg Abbott is claiming
the group of Democrats absconded from their sworn responsibilities to
the state of Texas and have forfeited their seats.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I just want to make sure I understand this.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Democrats worried about jerrymandering went to two blue states that
are famous for jerryman.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Exactly, and California members of Congress are up in arms
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Are the chief offenders of this, but anyway, Texas Attorney
General Ken Paxton also released a statement saying that the
fleeing Democrats should be swiftly arrested, punished, and face the
full force of the law for turning their backs on
the people of Texas. This story has huge implications for
the upcoming midterms because it has the potential to help
Republicans keep their slim majority in the House of Representatives. Now,
(04:09):
we also have some big news to get to involving
the summer Olympic Games coming up in Los Angeles. US
Citizenship and Immigration Services announced earlier today that they've issued
new guidance around protecting women's sports in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Now if it sounds strange to you that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
USCIS would get involved with this and be dealing with
the issue, let me explain how they're going to be
doing it. So they have directed the Department of Homeland
Security to stop any foreign men entering the country if
they are going to be competing in women's sports. So
we are going to get USCIS director Jason Joseph Edlow
on the show this week to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So look out for that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, pretty exciting. And listen, there's an executive aut it.
It's the force of law.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Indeed, why should someone get a visa if they're coming
here to something that is considered an all unlaf locked
So I guess it makes sense the power of the visa.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Team, not the charge guard. They get both.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Really all right, We're very lucky.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
To be joined at the top of the show by
a man who brings tons of common sense to a
city in Washington that often likes it. He represents the
great State of Tennessee in the United States House of Representatives.
He's our good friend, Congressman Tim Bridgett.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Congressman. Good to have you back on the show, sir.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Great to be with you all. Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I want to get your reaction to the big news
that is just literally shaking the ground in DC. Right
now we're moving from a strikeforce to a grand jury.
Natural progression, but a big moment for those who may
have deprived civil liberties over the last ten years with weaponization.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Well, when my wife wears a white suit, we always
know she's going to steal some conati sauce on it somehow.
And Chelsea Dabbard wears that white suit, you know, somebody's
getting ready to get gutted.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And they did.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Look, this is at the highest level of government they folks,
have they have really they denied people in their civil
liberties the entire nation by there. You know, we've talked
about the deep stay in the past and that's usually
just a conspiracy theory thing that they throw at this
conservative folks, but it is real and it runs to
the highest level of government and this proves it. Kelsey's
(06:10):
brought that, as the young people say, Chelsea brought the
receipts and that's why this is Uh, this has been
in paneled by Miss Bondy. So I think you're going
to see a lot of people sweating and DC because
it's secret, and you don't know who they're going to
go after until they go after. And it could take
(06:31):
It could take a week, it could take months. Okay,
it's taken sometimes even longer than that in the past.
But I think they're going to get to the bottom
of this, and America needs justice. We don't need this
kind of nonsense. This was an attempt to subird our country,
overthrow a sitting president, or to damage him in the
future from running. So yeah, I think this is serious.
(06:52):
And I think if you if you favor justice in
this country, you favor this. And the reason they're after it,
the reason they're doing this is because of one man,
Donald J.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Trump.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
In the campaign, he said, they're not after me, they're
after you. I'm just staying in the way. And that's
exactly what happened here. You've got a present he's promised
to deliver on the economy, energy independence, military strength, our border,
and just overall our appearance around the globe, our enemies Ferris,
We're not getting hit by terrorists.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
They know it.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
They'll end up in a body bag, and our friends
love us again. So I think it's a great day
in America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Congressman how much does the venue matter for this grand jury,
because thanks to the mar Alogo rate, it could be Florida,
but it also could be DC, which kind of seems
to me like it's a lost cause if at CC.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Yeah, I think it matters, unfortunately, but I'm still idealistic.
I'm realistic, but I'm idealistic, and I pray a lot,
and I hope that these folks look at the facts
and see what has just happened, and not look at
the political parties or leaning or anything, but just look
at the facts.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's so important. Getting back to evidence and justice department,
not politics. That'll be a sea change from the last decade.
So I want to turn to something else Amanda mentioned
at the top of the broadcast, and that is that
the Homeland Security Department in cis it's Immigration Services will
deny entry to any foreign mail athlete who tries to
come here to compete in a women's sporting event. That
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obviously has big implications for the Olympics in Los Angeles
coming up, but it's also just building on the common
sense that Americans have. Your thoughts on using the visa
to enforce President Trump's executive order.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Well, it's science let's just face it. You're a man,
you're a man. If you're a woman, your willet. There's
no differentiation. And if they apply with a visa and
they're a man and they apply as a woman, they
are committing fraud. And that is an official document. And
to do that in this country anyway, it used to
be a felony. So I would hope that they would
(08:58):
uphold the law in all shaped former fashion. And shame
on the Olympics for doing what they did in the
last Olympics. You know, they showed our Savior in a
very unflattering manner with a bunch of folks out there
and the depiction of the Last Supper and that was
the last. That was the last I watched seven. I
(09:19):
saw about thirty seconds that I didn't watch anymore at it,
and I forbid in my family to do so as well.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Wow, sir, I'm sure that in your area of Tennessee
and also up on Capitol Who you can hear the
shrinking from Texas. They are trying to do exactly what
the Blue states that they fled to Massachusetts, New York
and Illinois. They are trying to do exactly what Democrats
are known for doing in those blue states, but they
don't want Republicans to do it. It has huge implications
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for the Republican majority.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Do you think the Republicans will ultimately went.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Out wa better? And this is what you do when
you're in the majority. You start enforcing the law. This
is all this is. Quit playing putsy with these guys.
You know, remember when George W. Bush played footsee with
Teddy Kennedy over education issues and he compromised and did
all these things.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
He ended up with a terrible piece of legislation and.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
He got taken advantage out of my opinion, let's start
acting like we got the majority.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
You know, the coach gave us the ball. Let's run
with it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, so important, And it does seem like this generation
of Republicans, I like maybe some prior ones in the
last few years, this one is determined to exercise the
power that the American people gave them. I think it's
really remarkable. You have a very important piece of legislation.
I think it's so important because I've been writing about
this issue for thirty years. Stock trading and lawmakers, I
(10:38):
know you want to stop it because you want the
integrity of the institution to rise tell us about it,
and then also the momentum it's starting to get right.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Now well, and it just kind of faltered a little bit.
It's a very clean bill. I don't like long bills.
I don't like a lot of.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Garbage in them.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
It just basically says if you're in congress that which
you can't own individual stocks. And the only way you
can is, you know, if you have a treasury something
that is not you know, that's not as as shady
as the rest of it, or if you own a
mutual fund like I do, and you know, I got my.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Twelve thousand dollar portfolio.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
My buddy Tommy Syler manages for me that I'll be
cashing out here very soon because my daughter's stilling to
school and that's what I got it there for. But
you know, and from here on out, the merchant families
investment schedule will be baseball cards and comic books, and
so that's about all I have left of any investment grade.
So anyway, I think it's a it's a good start.
(11:38):
Let's let's pass a piece of legislation.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Moona.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
My buddy, she's going to force our hand on it,
which I think we should because Congress basically has got less.
We're going to have some bills so watered down, and
nobody believes anybody in Congress has the sense to make
three hundred percent return here in and year out. There's
a website called Unusual Wells like plugging stuff, but it
lists them. It lists like the top hundred. Once again,
(12:04):
I did not make the top hundred in that. It's
Democrats and Republicans. When dil Biden gave our missile defense
system to Ukraine and then we had to replenish ours,
Republicans and Democrats. Guess what owned stock in that missile
defense those missile companies, and it was a no bid,
multi billion dollar contract, and some of them I believe
(12:25):
had bought it. Within two weeks of the President making
that announcement. Washington as crooked as a dog's folks. Quit
trying to pick little pieces out of the trashcand turn
it upside down. Let's put the garden host to it.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I like it, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I want to switch over to a topic.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
So we are at what one hundred and fifty billion
dollars in tariff revenue by now, but the jobs numbers
were revised downward. I hear a lot of people who
are who have mixed messages on the economy. How do
we make sure that the American people feel that heading
into the midterms and they.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Know exactly what's going on so they can vote accordingly.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Well, I wish they'd turn off the so called Big Four,
I guess because in the media they're just All they
do is the Democrat National Committee has a focus group
and then they whatever sales to them, they send it
out to that group.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
And that's why they immediately.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Shifted from attention to their number one candidate in the country,
the mayor, the guy running for New York mayor who
claimed he was a Everybody said, you're a Marxist communist.
He said, don't know, I'm a socialist, and that was
their selling point for weeks. So, you know, yeah, they've
got to come up with something. The economy's picking up steam.
The one hundred and sixty billion is actually actually sopriety.
(13:36):
And President Trump I was I was with him in
the in the White House when he was talking about
the numbers that were coming in and they were even
surprising to them. You got to remember when we were
under the terraff situate system in this country. We didn't
have an income tax. We had more money than we
could spend, and it put the put it on the
other people overseas and all this and what this will
(13:57):
do actually is drive American jobs by It's crazy that
we have we have the sense systems that can literally
be turned off by the communist Chinese because we buy
our computer chips from them.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
That's the kind of thing.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
You got to watch the K Street lobbyist or and
bab with these folks.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Let's let's let's take.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Our country back, Let's become a sovereign nation again. Let's
get control. That's why labor loves Trump. It's not because
of the union contract. It's because it's going to bring
American jobs home in America.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
To be excited about that, that giman.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Every time I go to the store, I flip a
label over and it says made in China, and it
just makes me sick to my stomach. But yet we're
a compromise there, and it's going to hurt. It's going
to hurt for a little while, and people are going
to lose their jobs and they're going to lose revenue.
But that gimmut, we're going to get our country back
and I think that's a that's a little sacrifice to
make for a big, huge game.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, for time, for rebalancing a power in the economic world.
That's something you've been arguing for, Sarah. It's a great
down and you have a lot of well wishers on
the show. They always appreciate your time on Real America's Voice.
Everyone's worried about you. You okay, you healed that book
from that horse kick.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It only hurts when I'm buried.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh no, we will not make you laugh. I promise
you we're not going to do that. Well, a lot
of people thinking of you, and I know you didn't
miss a beat. You went right back to work, even
as injured as you are. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I'll miss one meeting one boy, scout beatles scout ceremony.
I'll probably enough ten to take them to a piece
of buffet or something.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's a good plan, that's a good play. Well, we're
wishing out speedy recovery. And thank you for being available
for us today. Great to have you on, sir.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I love you guys, and always pray for our country.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That we will thank you, sir. All right, folks, Bret,
what a good interview, always a great deal. All right
after the break.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
One of my lawyers, you've worked on me to sue
the government to get all those documents begun Hunter, Biden
and Russia collusion. Kimberie Herman from the Southeastern Leagua Foundation.
She's going to tell you the story of how these
new evelations from Tulsea Gabbert at the and I came
from one of our lawsuits. It's quite a yard. We're
going to have that next right after these, Yes, it is.
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Speaker 4 (17:13):
Welcome back, everybody to Justinows New Noise. It seems like
every day there's more news breaking out about scandals and
what the media has deemed the scandal free Obama White
House case in point all the to classified evidence related to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
The Russia hoax.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
And it seems that then Vice President Joe Biden played
a role in the Russiagate scandal too, and there were
a few other scandals during Biden's time as vice president.
One of the reasons we know more about them is
because of the work of our next guest joining us
now as the executive director at the Southeastern Legal Foundation,
Kimberly Herman. Kim, great to see you, Great to be
with you. I actually want to start with an update
(17:48):
on the email scandal because from the information that you
got back from NARA, and of course they were holding
on to it for a long time, saying, oh, there's
nothing of interest in here from President Biden's pseudonym emails.
But these these were situation room meetings, These were briefings
with then President Obama. These were not like Clinton classified
her emails as about grandchildren and yoga.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's not what this was.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Any update, No, it was not, you know, just to
kind of remind everyone, we're talking about eighty two thousand
pages of emails where President Biden at the time Vice
President Biden used student in amy emails. So we used
fake email addresses, Gmail, you know, emails and stuff to
hide things, hide things from the American public. And so we'
foigt all of these records and we've been trying now
(18:34):
for years to get them out just recently. You know,
we did a quick calculation and about ninety nine point
seven of the documents they've reviewed, they've withheld from us,
which means that they are now being withheld from the
American public. It's been a slow walk even under the
Trump administration. You know, we're getting all these other releases
of documents, but for some reason, the holdovers at NARA
(18:56):
keep digging in and they don't want these emails out
for some reason, and we are determined we are going
to get them and see what were they actually talking about,
because as you know, and as you said, it wasn't
about grandchildren, it wasn't about cookouts, right, This was key information,
government business being done over unsecure email servers.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, so the National Archives gets the's record because Joe
Biden thinks the things he transmitted on his email account
were government business.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And you're saying ninety nine percent.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Plus of the documents are being withheld from us in
the reviews, is that right?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
That's absolutely correct.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
And for months we actually just recently learned that they
were subjectively reviewing these which means that the people you
know at NARA were looking at them and going nope,
even though this is between you know, Joe Biden and
Hunter Biden, and it hits all of these key words, right.
Maybe it talks about Ukraine, it talks about, you know,
some of these other key government entities and government transactions
(19:55):
that were happening that they don't think is relevant, and
so they're just going to withhold it till the litigation
reaches an end.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
They claim they don't.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Have an obligation to tell us what they're withholding. Normally,
you'd have to at least say, you know, it's an
email between this person and that person and it generally
dealt with this topic. They're saying they have no obligation
to do that, And so we're going to have to
go back to the judge here and bring this all
to her attention because the American public needs to know
about these documents before it's too late.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What damage was done, what national security.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
Secrets were possibly disclosed in these what classified information was disclosed.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
If we don't see the emails, then.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
We can't actually fix the problems that they created.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, and the court system can obviously move this along,
but the problem originates with racalcitrant people over there at NARA.
If President Trump called you and said Hey, how can
I help with more disclosure? How can I increase the transparency?
Are there key positions that need to be replaced? What
could he do to help?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yeah, I mean it's the archive this, right, and so
we need to see these The people that are at NARRA,
where you know, this is the agency that is responsible
for holding our key documents in this country, they need
to agree with President Trump's take on transparency. They need
to actually get in line with what this administration is doing,
which is to tell the American public what the government
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is doing and what was doing so we can all
make those proper decisions for ourselves, and that they can
also know, right what secrets are actually being withheld from
this administration. What is it that they're trying to hide
in these documents? And so, if I were President Trump,
I'd want these documents out just as quickly as possible
because he may need to step into action, right he
needs to know what was emailed about through these pseudonym emails.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Can when you look at the behavior of the government,
does it feel like an ongoing cover up is occurring
at the Archives right now?
Speaker 9 (21:47):
You know, it's hard to say, right, but I mean
ninety nine point seven percent of documents being withheld. I
don't want to make any accusations, but I think the
numbers here speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, and by the way, Joe Biden thought these were relevant.
That's why he sent them there. He didn't think these
were personally emails. He was only obligated to sell the
ones that were government related.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So just remarkable, remarkable, Kim.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I want to move into another area where you guys
have been hugely protective of the American people, white farmers
in this country who have been targeted for the color
of their skin.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
By the USDA. Give us an update on that, please.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah. I mean what we've covered here is really just
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
You know, our work in this area started about five
years ago when we saw that there were programs coming
out of USDA that explicitly, I mean these expressly exclude
American farmers if they are white males. So it started
with a loan forgiveness program that we saw. We represented
an American farmer sued the USDA, and the court there
(22:49):
immediately says, no, you cannot do that, right, we are
a colorblind society or constitution demands that we treat everyone
the same, regardless of their skin color, and so it
slapped down that from the USDA.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
We then undercovered nine more programs.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
We represented American farmers and those and got a preliminary
injunction halting those programs.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
And as we dug and dug, we found dozens.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
And dozens of more programs, and so we brought that
to the attention of the USDA, and they are taking
action under President Trump. They are rescinding every single one
of these regulations that they possibly can. And you know,
our fight isn't over though. There's still quite a few
that were mandated by Congress, and so you can expect
to see us back in the courtroom challenging all of
(23:32):
those that USDA may not be able to actually get
rid of on its own.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Amazing, such impact and what a unique idea. The Agriculture
Department is going to go back to a warding money
based on merit.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What an amazing you. Yeah, yeah, well, congratulations for that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I want to turn to another very important role you
played over the years. You've helped me expose a hunder
Biden grif scheme a lot of the Russia collusion staff.
One of the things we did was file a foil
together back in nineteen trying to find out if the
Steele dossier was implemented into the intelligence community assessment that
concluded that Russia was trying to help Trump win the election,
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something that we now know to be disputed recently. That
lawsuit played a major role in prompting the D and
I to release information. It turns out that when we
put our request in and that's left did it. It
got to the career people, and that's what triggered some
whistleblowing people realizing, hey, wait a second, there shouldn't be
a Steele Dassier in this intelligence commit The main revelations
(24:33):
that the career people disagreed with allowing the dossier into
the Intelligent Commity was a direct result of a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
When you look at those documents, what comes to mind.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
What comes to mind is more of what we were
talking about before, right, the intentional hiding of documents. As
you mentioned, You know, we ask for any of these
communications where they were talking about the Steele dossier between
the CIA, between.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
D and I, between the FBI, and we were told
that only two pages existed.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
We now know in this recent release that not only
did they exist, but it's very suspect as to whether
or not they were intentionally hidden from us. And so
you know, this raises big flags of was their bad faith?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Who should be held accountable here?
Speaker 9 (25:17):
And that's certainly things that we're digging into, and you
can expect to see us back in the courtroom because
these people need to be held accountable, you know, the
people who are behind Russiagate, the people who created these
falsehoods and then hid them from the American public. And
so we might not be able to do a whole
lot at SLF on the first piece of that, right,
we need Congress to hold all of them accountable, but
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we can certainly hold the people who hid this from
the American public accountable through lawsuits, through bar complaints, ethical filings,
and so just like we did back in the Bill
Clinton days when he lied under oath, we continue to
see this all the way through to the end and
get not only the truth out, but hold the people
who've hidden that from us us accountable because we need
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people to stop doing this, and until punishment happens, they're
going to keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I want to follow up real quickly. It seems as
though you might be looking at two things. Sanctions under
the foil law under the Freedom of Information Act law
and then possibly referring people who hid things refer their
bar licenses. Of the those two possible paths for Southeaster
your legal foundation.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Yeah, absolutely, And so you know we're going to go
back to the courtroom and then also refer these out
to whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Agencies we need to, whether it's you know, the.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Bar and Missions or whether we're talking about to Congress,
and let them do whatever it is that they can
do there to hold these bad actors accountable. Because when
you go into court and you swear to a judge
that no documents exist despite all of these searches that
you did, and then we flat out see that they
did those searches and documents were actually responsive and that
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they should have been released, that can't be allowed to
stand in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's going to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah,
A good file, Yeah, Kim.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You know, I think about President Trump and his pursuit
of weeding out corruption and discrimination, and it must feel
like a game of whack a mole to him. But
thank goodness, he has people like you and organizations like
yours to root this out.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, the USDA.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Programs he might have never known about this if you
had not rooted that out, and there are probably hundreds
of those across a dozen.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Agencies in Washington.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
So you were doing Yeoman's where at Kimberly Herm and
the executive director over at Southeastern Legal Foundation.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Thanks for being with us tonight.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Absolutely all right, everybody. We've got much more after these messages.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you've been watching and reading justin News, you know
there's been a real large string of victories for those
who fight for the defensive life, to fight the abortion industry,
a tremendous run, including in the last few days in
Texas where there's some big announcements joining us to discuss
all those developments in the enthusiasm in the pro life movement.
Is the president forty days for Life, Our good friend,
(28:07):
Sean Carney Shan, good to.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Have you back on good to be back, Thanks for
having me all right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Planned parenthood has had quite a few strikes in the
last few weeks, but perhaps none more symbolic or impactful
than the decision in the heart of Texas for a parenthood.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Clinic to close. Tell us about it, Why it's.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Important, Yeah, it's the largest abortion facility in the Western hemisphere.
Plan Perenthod bragged about that. It's seventy eight thousand square feet.
It's in Houston, Texas, where I live. I was there
in the early days trying to prevent the sale of
that building to Plan Parenthood, and we delayed them opening
about a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
But they open.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
They averaged about six or seven thousand abortions per year,
at one point doing abortions up to twenty four weeks
when it was legal here in Texas. And they are closing.
They can no longer keep that open. And this is
on the cusp of them closing their flagship planmed Parenthood
back in the spring in Manhattan, and that building is
now for sale for thirty nine million dollars. That was
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almost more shocking than this. So to have this happen
within a couple of months is amazing. There have now
been thirty eight Plain parenthoods to close in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Wow, that's just jaw dropping.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, and I know you keep your finger on the
pulse of others that have not yet closed, but that
are possibly facing closure.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
How many others out there? Where are they?
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
We just had four plain parenthoods closed in California. There
have been six that have closed in the last twelve months.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
In the state of New York. What we're seeing is
it's not.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Just the red sort of predictable abortion free states or
states where they highly regulate abortion. Claim Parenthood is closing
abortion facilities in places where abortions are on the rise.
And the reason for that is because they cannot keep well.
In some of those places, abortions on the decline, and
that's why they're closing. But in other places, it is
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the defunding and their dependency upon a tax dollars. And
you know, eighty percent of all the abortion pills are
still distributed brick and mortar, and so that's one of
the reasons why we finally start to see the number
of abortion pills going down from seventy eight percent of
all abortions to a year ago to sixty eight percent
(30:25):
of all abortions. And so these closures are having a
tremendous impact. I think we'll see about twenty five to
thirty more planned parent hoods closed before Christmas.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wow, that is a huge number. Sean.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You mentioned that some are in these blue states that
have robust abortion industries within the state under the state regulations.
But there seems to be some generational stuff. It does
seem like gen Z there's a lower demand for abortions
from gen Z morby a more.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Family friendly generation.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What are you seeing just culturally that may also be
driven It's not all just regulatory strikes, to be some
culture of life issues philossoming as well.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean women are choosing life. That's the good thing.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
It's the best reason for abortion numbers to go down.
And part of it is you have the abortion leaving
DC where Plan Parenthood really has had a stronghold for decades,
and going into the grassroots where the pro life movement
is more powerful, you have things like you know, forty
Days for Life and Plane parenthod has said that their
abortion no show rate goes as highest seventy five percent
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when we're out there of praying and offering alternatives. You
also see the number of pregnancy medical centers, you know,
they're now outnumber abortion providers seven to one. So it's
because we are providing the professional and loving options to abortions.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
That women are turning around and hurting the bottom.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Line of these local abortion facilities. Generation Z is by
far the most pro life generation at their age than
any other previous generation at that age.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
You know, all of them have a picture.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
Of their own ultrasum, you know, and forty percent of
them voted for Trump. So it's really a phenomenal thing
to see younger kids getting more conservative at a younger age.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, I didn't know that the Crisis Pregnancy Center's out
number abortion facilities. That is absolutely incredible and what a
bright spot in this hole, in.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
This whole narrative.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I want to ask you about the funding though, because
Planned Parenthood, you know, they can obviously still reach out
for private funding from organizations. You have so many liberals
who claim that they support Planned Parenthood and the work
that they do.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Why aren't they showing up?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
I mean, last year, Claimed Parenthood lost seventy three thousand
individual donors. They lost seventy three thousand, so they had
a thirty two percent drop in donations last year, and
that is unbelievable. Part of it is they have an
incompetent leader, Alexis mcgil Johnson is just.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
It's not her fault.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
She's just nowhere nearly as talented as Cecil Richards was
and Cincil Richards got sick and had to resign and
eventually passed away. But she led them for twelve years.
She got them more tax funding, She married herself to
the Obama administration, She spoke at.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
The DNC, she raised a lot of money when Trump.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Was elected the first time, she was, unfortunately for US,
a very effective leader of planed parenthood. They don't have
that now, and now they have a lot of employment issues,
they have hr issues, they have their.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Staff trying to unionize.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
There's been a couple of locations where blame bearded workers
have protested alongside us outside of a blame parento. So
they're a mess at a time they can't afford to
be a mess. And that is a tremendous advantage for
the pro life movement. It's one of the many reasons
we're winning. We're offering loving and medical alternatives to abortion.
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We're changing hearts and minds, and that's why it doesn't
matter how pro abortion California and New York is, you
can still close abortion facilities in those states.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, winning the hearts and minds. In the cultural argument,
the faith argument, is just so amazing. Real quickly, you
mentioned abortion pills and other things going on. Texas is
reaching its long arm into New York, and it's an
interesting potential strike. Who would think that the Texas Attorney
General would have some jurisdiction of New York.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
But tell us about that case.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
Yeah, an abortion doctor in New York is mailing abortion.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Pills into Texas. That's illegal. That's absolutely illegal.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
So they're going after the doctor, and this judge is
trying to prevent that.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
But that case hopefully goes to.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
The Supreme Court because Texas is enforcing our abortion laws.
If you ship pills into the state, if you prescribe
the pills, that is illegal. There's a guy who's going
to face a murder trial because he slipped his pregnant
girlfriend in Fort Worth and are forty six abortion pill
and killed the baby. And so they have real laws
(34:57):
on the books. They're enforcing them like these cases because
it highlights that the pro life states are taking this
seriously because they see the unborn person as just that
the biological reality of the baby, and therefore here she
deserves protection.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Under the law.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A little bit of science back on the table. How
about that Seark Charney. It's always an honor to have
you on. Congratulations all the work that you've been doing
it forty days for life.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Good to have you on today.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I what a great discussion, all right, folks. I keep
warning about this A man Key's warning about this. Free
speech maybe revived a little bit here in the United
States with Donald Trump's win. In overseas, particularly places like
the United Kingdom, it is engraved dangerous on life supports
and critical condition. We're going to have an incredible story
coming out of the United Kingdom in this a second.
I'll tell you about that right after these messages. Hey, folks,
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Speaker 3 (37:09):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
If it has not been made clear that Europe has
a much different view about free speech than the United States, says,
then we have more evidence for you. Unfortunately, a new
law went into effect in the UK called the Online
Safety Act, which requires anyone within the UK's borders, including Americans,
to submit their secure papers to access lawful information online
and gives British bureaucrats broad sweeping powers to determine what
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content they believe is harmful online. And we already know
that just posting wrong think in the UK can literally
land you in prison. So joining us to discuss this,
as the director of policy for net Choice, Patrick hedg Er, Patrick.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Welcome back, Hey, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
It also sounds like they are trying to or already
have banned VPNs, which is kind of one of the
only workarounds there.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Yeah, so, of course this sounds like a great law.
Who could be against the Online Safety Act? But the
devil is always in the details with legislation like this,
and what we are seeing is that you are being
forced to show your ID, your government IDs, I mean,
your most sensitive information.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
To be able to access benign.
Speaker 11 (38:15):
Services like Spotify, to be able to just listen to
music online, you have to show your ID. And of
course all the proponents of this law say, oh, this
is just targeting pornography, it's targeting other things we don't
want kids to see. That's all well and good, but
at this what you have to again look at the
details here. The penalties here are so severe that companies
are putting in place these age gates because they're scared
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of the government. And it's really concerning because copycats of
the Online Safety Act in the United Kingdom have been
introduced at the state and federal level here in the
United States. And yes, of course the British are trying
to take the step to ban VPNs, which is a
huge attack on privacy, and having to show your ID
to be able to speak online is of course a
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huge attack on anonymous speech.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And the synergy is between Great Britain and those who
would prefer a censorship industrial complex here are very close, right,
GARM was in Great Britain and then clearly try to
insert its ideas into the American society. Obviously, the Trump
era has given a remarkable reversible that trend, but there's
a lot of people waiting for the next Democrat president
(39:23):
to do this here.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, we Net Choice have been fighting laws
like this at the state level that would force you
to show your ID to use very common online services
like even doing a Google search. And you have to
look at the underlying DNA of the UK's Online Safety
Act and some of the bills that have been proposed
here even at the federal level, There is a federal
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bill called KOSA right, it's the Kid's Children's Online Safety Act.
It is a bill that of course, who could be
against a bill that's called that, But again you have
to look at the details. The penalties are so severe
that you're going to have web services that are collecting IDs,
and we just saw how dangerous that can be with
(40:06):
this latest tea app that was on the App Store.
It was collecting IDs to verify that its users were women,
and all of those IDs were breached and somebody created
a map of where those users live. That's how serious
the cybersecurity implications are here. Yes, we want to keep
people safe online, but there are constitutional ways to do
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that do not invade privacy.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
The names of these builds are always so deceptive. It's
like Sydney's sweety skin suit on Rose O'donnald. It's just
never what it looks like on the outside. I want
to ask you about two competing political ideologies happening simultaneously
in the UK. On one hand, they were the first
before the United States to return to normalcy and sanity
when it came to the gender issue, and yet they're
(40:52):
going in the opposite direction on this How did those
two ideologies and those two you know, leftward and right
word directions coexist.
Speaker 11 (41:01):
Yeah, you know, I can't claim to be an expert
on British politics or British society, but I think it's
important and an important lesson for us not to just
immediately graft ideas from the United Kingdom over here to
the United States. We have a different, really underlying political
history that's really important. Yes, we have some shared values
like common law and things like that, but we have
things here in the United States because we broke away
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from the United Kingdom. We have the First Amendment. These
are things that we have to cherish here. And so
it's really concerning to me when I see US lawmakers
at both the state and federal level saying, oh, well,
this is a great thing that we're hearing from the
United Kingdom. We just need to apply that here. That
should be a non starter.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, that should be real quickly before we let you go.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
There was a story on Justin News last week the
British London Police have created a unit full time to
monitor speech online for any negative comments about migrants or
illegal migrants in Great Britain. That looks a little bit
eerily similar to what the FBI with Twitter during the
COVID pandemic. Your thoughts on this idea that police are
going to become a bigger part of speech monitoring in
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the world that far left censors are envisioning in the future.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
Well, ultimately, this is why we oppose having to show
ID to speak online. Anonymous speech is a critical bedrock
foundational principle in the United States. I mean, the federalist
papers themselves right written pseudononymously. So the ability to be
able to speak without a fear of threat or recourse.
I mean, think back to the mid twenty tens when
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we were talking about the IRS targeting.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
People because of their political participation.
Speaker 11 (42:41):
So we see the value and being able to speak freely,
in being able to speak without being identified or threatened.
And so that's why it is really so critical that
we focus on things to help keep people safe online,
public education and resources for parents in law enforcement, versus
having everybody put their ID in most information right next
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to what they're saying on their social media.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, there's something bad in the water in these Commonwealth
countries because it's the UK, it's Canada, it's Australia.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
To some degree.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I don't know what it is, but it scares the
stink out of me.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I don't want to come and hear.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Patrick Hedger, director of policy for Net Choice, thanks so
much for being with us tonight in shining light on
these big issues, because you're right, they could come to
our shores the next time the.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Democrats in power.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Thank you, absolutely, all right, everybody, some final thoughts on
the other side when we come back from this break,
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
To our final segment of the night. John.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
You know, every once in a while there is a
news story that seems to shift the sentiment in Washington,
and I think that this story today about the.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Grand jury being in paneled.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Look, we don't know what charges might come, and we
won't know that probably for some time, but it feels
like the American people are finally moving in the direction
of getting answers.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I think that's right. I mean, I think we listened.
The question was wopam body follow the normal process? And
so the first process is let the FBI open up
the investigation. They did that that's the Grand conspiracy case.
Then she applied the strike force concept, which is get
your best stars and put them on one team. Put
them at this That is something they used typically for
a conspiracy case involving the mob or drug cartels. Now
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it's going to be used for the Obama administration of
those who succeeded it. And then the next question is
are you going to empower that entity the strike force
to go get the evidence, compel the turning over of evidence.
And today we learn the answer toes granjury. Now here's
what I think is going to be the next few
things to be watching. Does people said, well why was
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it today?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Why today?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, over the weekend, a couple of major US attorneys
got approved. Janine Perrol in Washington, d C. And then
the Miami US attorney, who is by all accounts a
outstanding litigator and prosecutor can he got approved. And as
we've been saying, one of the notions in the FBI
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case is to take this case in Florida start with
Jack Smith the most current event in work its way backwards.
The fact that those two got approved this week and
that she did this today maybe tells you something. I
think you should look for the following moves. And again
we're still a couple of weeks off from this, but
I think the most likely place will be the grandeury
will be impaneled in Florida, maybe a place like Fort
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Pierce where Judge Cannon used to reside, or what you
were operated out of, and to look at the primary crime,
something that stretches from twenty four back to sixteen, as
the deprivation of civil rights that you deprive people like
Mike Flinn, George Papadappus, President Trump, Carter Page their civil
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liberties by the way you conducted government business without a
basis to intrude on their freedoms, their speech and other things.
And then with that you can take that to the
censorship era. You could take to the Ukraine era. You
can take that all the way to the raid at
mar Lago and whatever happened in the aftermath of that.
I would be looking for a grand jury to be
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operating in Florida, and I think maybe the Senate finally
burping up a couple of these nominations getting him done,
one of those being Miami, the other being Washington, d C.
Judge Aine would be an outstanding prosecutor as well. The
jury pulls a lot tougher here for this sort of
a case. So I think Florida is the place that
I'm going to be watching closely to see if the
first subpoena has come. That's what's that, right, grand jury?
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Then what a grand jury's issue? The issue subpoenas?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, and you know here in DC, that would be
I guess under Judge Bosberg's It's.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Another reason Judge Bozenberg has really asserted himself in front
of the Trump administration and he's the chief chief judge
here in the district.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
And the thing with Florida, because liberals are going to say, oh,
if it's in paneled in Florida, then you know it's
it's definitely going to go the direction of President Trump
and against these who have been possible conspirers. But Florida
is a fair venue. DC is not a fair venue DC.
You know which way it's going to go. They're not
ninety ten.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, and you know Florida fifty five to forty five,
and in some places it's the other way around you.
Miami did go for President Trump this time, but traditionally
it hasn't, and Miami would be the chief district for
a trial potentially, So it's just a more more evenly
split populace as opposed to a ninety ten populace in DC,
which we saw how that worked for John Durham.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, all right, I want to shift to something else
that's cultural. So the Sydney Sweeney thing. You've all heard
about this by now, we don't need to explain it.
Border Patrol put out a video where they used a
lot of the same language about having great genes and
you know it being passed down from generation to generation,
and it was a recruiting ad. But gosh, I don't
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even know if they're going to need it because their
acting director just said that they have seventy eight thousand
applicants for now. That's ICE, but still, I mean people
who are looking to protect the homeland in one way
or another.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
When you return agencies back to their core mission, you
stop social engineering. You put the military back to this
fighting wars. Like what happened, recruitment went up, You put
ICE back to and CPB back. People want to go
do those jobs. They're audible jobs, but who wants to
do them. If you can't, you aren't allowed to do
those jobs. And I think that that is a really
encouraging sign. It's a warning sign to the Democrats too,
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that they continue to pick the wrong fights. I fear
Mondomini will be the next wrong fight they pick in
New York for Democrats. But that's you know, Democrats have
to come to this on their own and realize they're
running into a headwind of enormous common sense in America
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I had a favorite story this morning.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Because I watched the New York Times and everybody say, oh,
this whole Hillary Clinton thing is Russian disinformation. Jerry Dunleavy
went through every book written by Hillary Clinton and her staff,
every speech, every interview they gave after twenty seventeen. He
found their signed confessions that she did, in fact order
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the Russia dirty trick and in the same specific sophicity,
including getting the FBI involved. It is a devastating eight
thousand words start. It's a long story, but if you
want to see how easy it will be for the
government to pierce Hillary Clinton's denials right now, this is
a muss read.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Stay.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I'm so proud of it. Terry does great work. We
I'm on the show every so often. But such a
great story.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Absolutely, all right.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
So we only have thirty five seconds left, all right,
So numbers got jobs, numbers got revised down. BLS is
out Ali's commissioners out. Brotheran Trump says he's going to
hire somebody very quickly.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Thoughts, yeah, he will, and then we'll see what the
numbers do after that and see whether there is political
and manipulation. There was a year and a half where
the barrel laatey six. Almost every time we give a number,
then revise it substantially. Can't we get it right the
first time, even if.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
It's even if it's not politically weighted.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It's a competence.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yes, thank you, all right, everybody, thanks so much for
joining us tonight. We will be back tomorrow night at
six pm Eastern. Have a wonderful evening and see that
Good evening, America, Happy Monday. Welcome to the latest edition
of Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon,
reporting to you, as always from the Nation's Capital, where
the heat just got a little more uncomfortable for people
like John Brennan and James Comy wide. Just a few
hours ago, we have confirmed here at justin News that
Attorney General Pambody has given the okay for a grand
(00:42):
jury to be in panel to begin looking at evidence
of the Russia collusion hoax, starting a ten year conspiracy
to potentially deprive civil liberties in America. People like Mike Flynn,
President Trump, George Papadopolis and Carter Page and many others
brought up in it over the course of the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is a major development.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We told you last week that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General,
had given permission for a strike force to begin. That's
a very specific tool the Justice Department uses on major conspiracies,
and we told you then we would know it was
getting serious when the grand jury jumped into action. We
now know that a grand jury will be and paneled.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Most likely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
My sources are telling me it could be in Florida,
where the raid of President Trump's bar A Lago home
help and so that is the very latest. You could
check it out at justin News. We're going to have
a whole lot more in that over the course of
the next few hours of meantime, it was announced over
the weekend that the Office of Special Console, that's the
whistleblower office in Washington. It also enforces a Hattack that
(01:44):
they have formally opened an inquiry into former Special Consul
Jack Smith. So there's two different special consuls. Jack Smith's
a special counselor went after Donald Trump. The Office of
the Special Console something entirely different, so you don't get confused.
If you remember, Jack Smith led the classified documents case
against President Trump, the one that ended up leading to
a raid on mar A Lago, and eventually the case
(02:04):
was dismissed by a federal judge from many grounds, including
the fact that Jack Smith wasn't lawfully appointed as a
special counsel. It turns out that the Hatch Act Unit
at the Office of Special Counsel is.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Handling that investigation.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
In questions from a whistle blow on others about whether
he was acting in a political manner when he conducted
himself as that special prosecutor. That is a major question.
The law is very clear about that. You can't mix
politics and government business. We're going to get more on
that over the next few days, but that's the latest
too big headlines.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I know you're interested in.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Great time to bring in my amazing coast Amanda Hedges.
He had some great work all week and long on
White House coverage and she's got to the other headlines.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
What sun, Thank you, John.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I got to say that that first headline gave me
a little extra pep in my step considering.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How long was the big deal on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's a big There were a long way from criminal charges,
but it's they're following the process the way you're supposed
to go exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right, So how about the drama and holding in
the lone Star state. It all started over a redistricting
vote that would see more Republicans going to the US
House from Texas, and Democrats in the state are basically
powerless to stop it, except for one move. Dozens of
Democrats in the state legislature decided to not just not
show up for the vote, they fled the state entirely.
(03:18):
The majority of them went to Chicago, Albany and Boston,
and because of that, Texas Governor Greg Abbott is claiming
the group of Democrats absconded from their sworn responsibilities to
the state of Texas and have forfeited their seats.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I just want to make sure I understand this.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Democrats worried about jerrymandering went to two blue states that
are famous for jerryman.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Exactly, and California members of Congress are up in arms
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And I'm like, you guys.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Are the chief offenders of this, but anyway, Texas Attorney
General Ken Paxton also released a statement saying that the
fleeing Democrats should be swiftly arrested, punished, and face the
full force of the law for turning their backs on
the people of Texas. This story has huge implications for
the upcoming midterms because it has the potential to help
Republicans keep their slim majority in the House of Representatives. Now,
(04:09):
we also have some big news to get to involving
the summer Olympic Games coming up in Los Angeles. US
Citizenship and Immigration Services announced earlier today that they've issued
new guidance around protecting women's sports in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Now if it sounds strange to you that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
USCIS would get involved with this and be dealing with
the issue, let me explain how they're going to be
doing it. So they have directed the Department of Homeland
Security to stop any foreign men entering the country if
they are going to be competing in women's sports. So
we are going to get USCIS director Jason Joseph Edlow
on the show this week to talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So look out for that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, pretty exciting. And listen, there's an executive aut it.
It's the force of law.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Indeed, why should someone get a visa if they're coming
here to something that is considered an all unlaf locked
So I guess it makes sense the power of the visa.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Team, not the charge guard. They get both.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Really all right, We're very lucky.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
To be joined at the top of the show by
a man who brings tons of common sense to a
city in Washington that often likes it. He represents the
great State of Tennessee in the United States House of Representatives.
He's our good friend, Congressman Tim Bridgett.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Congressman. Good to have you back on the show, sir.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Great to be with you all. Thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I want to get your reaction to the big news
that is just literally shaking the ground in DC. Right
now we're moving from a strikeforce to a grand jury.
Natural progression, but a big moment for those who may
have deprived civil liberties over the last ten years with weaponization.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Well, when my wife wears a white suit, we always
know she's going to steal some conati sauce on it somehow.
And Chelsea Dabbard wears that white suit, you know, somebody's
getting ready to get gutted.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And they did.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Look, this is at the highest level of government they folks,
have they have really they denied people in their civil
liberties the entire nation by there. You know, we've talked
about the deep stay in the past and that's usually
just a conspiracy theory thing that they throw at this
conservative folks, but it is real and it runs to
the highest level of government and this proves it. Kelsey's
(06:10):
brought that, as the young people say, Chelsea brought the
receipts and that's why this is Uh, this has been
in paneled by Miss Bondy. So I think you're going
to see a lot of people sweating and DC because
it's secret, and you don't know who they're going to
go after until they go after. And it could take
(06:31):
It could take a week, it could take months. Okay,
it's taken sometimes even longer than that in the past.
But I think they're going to get to the bottom
of this, and America needs justice. We don't need this
kind of nonsense. This was an attempt to subird our country,
overthrow a sitting president, or to damage him in the
future from running. So yeah, I think this is serious.
(06:52):
And I think if you if you favor justice in
this country, you favor this. And the reason they're after it,
the reason they're doing this is because of one man,
Donald J.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Trump.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
In the campaign, he said, they're not after me, they're
after you. I'm just staying in the way. And that's
exactly what happened here. You've got a present he's promised
to deliver on the economy, energy independence, military strength, our border,
and just overall our appearance around the globe, our enemies Ferris,
We're not getting hit by terrorists.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
They know it.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
They'll end up in a body bag, and our friends
love us again. So I think it's a great day
in America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Congressman how much does the venue matter for this grand jury,
because thanks to the mar Alogo rate, it could be Florida,
but it also could be DC, which kind of seems
to me like it's a lost cause if at CC.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Yeah, I think it matters, unfortunately, but I'm still idealistic.
I'm realistic, but I'm idealistic, and I pray a lot,
and I hope that these folks look at the facts
and see what has just happened, and not look at
the political parties or leaning or anything, but just look
at the facts.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's so important. Getting back to evidence and justice department,
not politics. That'll be a sea change from the last decade.
So I want to turn to something else Amanda mentioned
at the top of the broadcast, and that is that
the Homeland Security Department in cis it's Immigration Services will
deny entry to any foreign mail athlete who tries to
come here to compete in a women's sporting event. That
(08:25):
obviously has big implications for the Olympics in Los Angeles
coming up, but it's also just building on the common
sense that Americans have. Your thoughts on using the visa
to enforce President Trump's executive order.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Well, it's science let's just face it. You're a man,
you're a man. If you're a woman, your willet. There's
no differentiation. And if they apply with a visa and
they're a man and they apply as a woman, they
are committing fraud. And that is an official document. And
to do that in this country anyway, it used to
be a felony. So I would hope that they would
(08:58):
uphold the law in all shaped former fashion. And shame
on the Olympics for doing what they did in the
last Olympics. You know, they showed our Savior in a
very unflattering manner with a bunch of folks out there
and the depiction of the Last Supper and that was
the last. That was the last I watched seven. I
(09:19):
saw about thirty seconds that I didn't watch anymore at it,
and I forbid in my family to do so as well.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Wow, sir, I'm sure that in your area of Tennessee
and also up on Capitol Who you can hear the
shrinking from Texas. They are trying to do exactly what
the Blue states that they fled to Massachusetts, New York
and Illinois. They are trying to do exactly what Democrats
are known for doing in those blue states, but they
don't want Republicans to do it. It has huge implications
(09:46):
for the Republican majority.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Do you think the Republicans will ultimately went.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Out wa better? And this is what you do when
you're in the majority. You start enforcing the law. This
is all this is. Quit playing putsy with these guys.
You know, remember when George W. Bush played footsee with
Teddy Kennedy over education issues and he compromised and did
all these things.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
He ended up with a terrible piece of legislation and.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
He got taken advantage out of my opinion, let's start
acting like we got the majority.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
You know, the coach gave us the ball. Let's run
with it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, so important, And it does seem like this generation
of Republicans, I like maybe some prior ones in the
last few years, this one is determined to exercise the
power that the American people gave them. I think it's
really remarkable. You have a very important piece of legislation.
I think it's so important because I've been writing about
this issue for thirty years. Stock trading and lawmakers, I
(10:38):
know you want to stop it because you want the
integrity of the institution to rise tell us about it,
and then also the momentum it's starting to get right.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Now well, and it just kind of faltered a little bit.
It's a very clean bill. I don't like long bills.
I don't like a lot of.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Garbage in them.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
It just basically says if you're in congress that which
you can't own individual stocks. And the only way you
can is, you know, if you have a treasury something
that is not you know, that's not as as shady
as the rest of it, or if you own a
mutual fund like I do, and you know, I got my.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Twelve thousand dollar portfolio.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
My buddy Tommy Syler manages for me that I'll be
cashing out here very soon because my daughter's stilling to
school and that's what I got it there for. But
you know, and from here on out, the merchant families
investment schedule will be baseball cards and comic books, and
so that's about all I have left of any investment grade.
So anyway, I think it's a it's a good start.
(11:38):
Let's let's pass a piece of legislation.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Moona.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
My buddy, she's going to force our hand on it,
which I think we should because Congress basically has got less.
We're going to have some bills so watered down, and
nobody believes anybody in Congress has the sense to make
three hundred percent return here in and year out. There's
a website called Unusual Wells like plugging stuff, but it
lists them. It lists like the top hundred. Once again,
(12:04):
I did not make the top hundred in that. It's
Democrats and Republicans. When dil Biden gave our missile defense
system to Ukraine and then we had to replenish ours,
Republicans and Democrats. Guess what owned stock in that missile
defense those missile companies, and it was a no bid,
multi billion dollar contract, and some of them I believe
(12:25):
had bought it. Within two weeks of the President making
that announcement. Washington as crooked as a dog's folks. Quit
trying to pick little pieces out of the trashcand turn
it upside down. Let's put the garden host to it.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I like it, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I want to switch over to a topic.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
So we are at what one hundred and fifty billion
dollars in tariff revenue by now, but the jobs numbers
were revised downward. I hear a lot of people who
are who have mixed messages on the economy. How do
we make sure that the American people feel that heading
into the midterms and they.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Know exactly what's going on so they can vote accordingly.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Well, I wish they'd turn off the so called Big Four,
I guess because in the media they're just All they
do is the Democrat National Committee has a focus group
and then they whatever sales to them, they send it
out to that group.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
And that's why they immediately.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Shifted from attention to their number one candidate in the country,
the mayor, the guy running for New York mayor who
claimed he was a Everybody said, you're a Marxist communist.
He said, don't know, I'm a socialist, and that was
their selling point for weeks. So, you know, yeah, they've
got to come up with something. The economy's picking up steam.
The one hundred and sixty billion is actually actually sopriety.
(13:36):
And President Trump I was I was with him in
the in the White House when he was talking about
the numbers that were coming in and they were even
surprising to them. You got to remember when we were
under the terraff situate system in this country. We didn't
have an income tax. We had more money than we
could spend, and it put the put it on the
other people overseas and all this and what this will
(13:57):
do actually is drive American jobs by It's crazy that
we have we have the sense systems that can literally
be turned off by the communist Chinese because we buy
our computer chips from them.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
That's the kind of thing.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
You got to watch the K Street lobbyist or and
bab with these folks.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Let's let's let's take.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Our country back, Let's become a sovereign nation again. Let's
get control. That's why labor loves Trump. It's not because
of the union contract. It's because it's going to bring
American jobs home in America.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
To be excited about that, that giman.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Every time I go to the store, I flip a
label over and it says made in China, and it
just makes me sick to my stomach. But yet we're
a compromise there, and it's going to hurt. It's going
to hurt for a little while, and people are going
to lose their jobs and they're going to lose revenue.
But that gimmut, we're going to get our country back
and I think that's a that's a little sacrifice to
make for a big, huge game.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, for time, for rebalancing a power in the economic world.
That's something you've been arguing for, Sarah. It's a great
down and you have a lot of well wishers on
the show. They always appreciate your time on Real America's Voice.
Everyone's worried about you. You okay, you healed that book
from that horse kick.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It only hurts when I'm buried.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh no, we will not make you laugh. I promise
you we're not going to do that. Well, a lot
of people thinking of you, and I know you didn't
miss a beat. You went right back to work, even
as injured as you are. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I'll miss one meeting one boy, scout beatles scout ceremony.
I'll probably enough ten to take them to a piece
of buffet or something.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's a good plan, that's a good play. Well, we're
wishing out speedy recovery. And thank you for being available
for us today. Great to have you on, sir.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
I love you guys, and always pray for our country.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That we will thank you, sir. All right, folks, Bret,
what a good interview, always a great deal. All right
after the break.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
One of my lawyers, you've worked on me to sue
the government to get all those documents begun Hunter, Biden
and Russia collusion. Kimberie Herman from the Southeastern Leagua Foundation.
She's going to tell you the story of how these
new evelations from Tulsea Gabbert at the and I came
from one of our lawsuits. It's quite a yard. We're
going to have that next right after these, Yes, it is.
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Speaker 4 (17:13):
Welcome back, everybody to Justinows New Noise. It seems like
every day there's more news breaking out about scandals and
what the media has deemed the scandal free Obama White
House case in point all the to classified evidence related to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
The Russia hoax.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
And it seems that then Vice President Joe Biden played
a role in the Russiagate scandal too, and there were
a few other scandals during Biden's time as vice president.
One of the reasons we know more about them is
because of the work of our next guest joining us
now as the executive director at the Southeastern Legal Foundation,
Kimberly Herman. Kim, great to see you, Great to be
with you. I actually want to start with an update
(17:48):
on the email scandal because from the information that you
got back from NARA, and of course they were holding
on to it for a long time, saying, oh, there's
nothing of interest in here from President Biden's pseudonym emails.
But these these were situation room meetings, These were briefings
with then President Obama. These were not like Clinton classified
her emails as about grandchildren and yoga.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's not what this was.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Any update, No, it was not, you know, just to
kind of remind everyone, we're talking about eighty two thousand
pages of emails where President Biden at the time Vice
President Biden used student in amy emails. So we used
fake email addresses, Gmail, you know, emails and stuff to
hide things, hide things from the American public. And so we'
foigt all of these records and we've been trying now
(18:34):
for years to get them out just recently. You know,
we did a quick calculation and about ninety nine point
seven of the documents they've reviewed, they've withheld from us,
which means that they are now being withheld from the
American public. It's been a slow walk even under the
Trump administration. You know, we're getting all these other releases
of documents, but for some reason, the holdovers at NARA
(18:56):
keep digging in and they don't want these emails out
for some reason, and we are determined we are going
to get them and see what were they actually talking about,
because as you know, and as you said, it wasn't
about grandchildren, it wasn't about cookouts, right, This was key information,
government business being done over unsecure email servers.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, so the National Archives gets the's record because Joe
Biden thinks the things he transmitted on his email account
were government business.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And you're saying ninety nine percent.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Plus of the documents are being withheld from us in
the reviews, is that right?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
That's absolutely correct.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
And for months we actually just recently learned that they
were subjectively reviewing these which means that the people you
know at NARA were looking at them and going nope,
even though this is between you know, Joe Biden and
Hunter Biden, and it hits all of these key words, right.
Maybe it talks about Ukraine, it talks about, you know,
some of these other key government entities and government transactions
(19:55):
that were happening that they don't think is relevant, and
so they're just going to withhold it till the litigation
reaches an end.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
They claim they don't.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Have an obligation to tell us what they're withholding. Normally,
you'd have to at least say, you know, it's an
email between this person and that person and it generally
dealt with this topic. They're saying they have no obligation
to do that, And so we're going to have to
go back to the judge here and bring this all
to her attention because the American public needs to know
about these documents before it's too late.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
What damage was done, what national security.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
Secrets were possibly disclosed in these what classified information was disclosed.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
If we don't see the emails, then.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
We can't actually fix the problems that they created.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, and the court system can obviously move this along,
but the problem originates with racalcitrant people over there at NARA.
If President Trump called you and said Hey, how can
I help with more disclosure? How can I increase the transparency?
Are there key positions that need to be replaced? What
could he do to help?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yeah, I mean it's the archive this, right, and so
we need to see these The people that are at NARRA,
where you know, this is the agency that is responsible
for holding our key documents in this country, they need
to agree with President Trump's take on transparency. They need
to actually get in line with what this administration is doing,
which is to tell the American public what the government
(21:14):
is doing and what was doing so we can all
make those proper decisions for ourselves, and that they can
also know, right what secrets are actually being withheld from
this administration. What is it that they're trying to hide
in these documents? And so, if I were President Trump,
I'd want these documents out just as quickly as possible
because he may need to step into action, right he
needs to know what was emailed about through these pseudonym emails.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Can when you look at the behavior of the government,
does it feel like an ongoing cover up is occurring
at the Archives right now?
Speaker 9 (21:47):
You know, it's hard to say, right, but I mean
ninety nine point seven percent of documents being withheld. I
don't want to make any accusations, but I think the
numbers here speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, and by the way, Joe Biden thought these were relevant.
That's why he sent them there. He didn't think these
were personally emails. He was only obligated to sell the
ones that were government related.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So just remarkable, remarkable, Kim.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I want to move into another area where you guys
have been hugely protective of the American people, white farmers
in this country who have been targeted for the color
of their skin.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
By the USDA. Give us an update on that, please.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah. I mean what we've covered here is really just
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
You know, our work in this area started about five
years ago when we saw that there were programs coming
out of USDA that explicitly, I mean these expressly exclude
American farmers if they are white males. So it started
with a loan forgiveness program that we saw. We represented
an American farmer sued the USDA, and the court there
(22:49):
immediately says, no, you cannot do that, right, we are
a colorblind society or constitution demands that we treat everyone
the same, regardless of their skin color, and so it
slapped down that from the USDA.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
We then undercovered nine more programs.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
We represented American farmers and those and got a preliminary
injunction halting those programs.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
And as we dug and dug, we found dozens.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
And dozens of more programs, and so we brought that
to the attention of the USDA, and they are taking
action under President Trump. They are rescinding every single one
of these regulations that they possibly can. And you know,
our fight isn't over though. There's still quite a few
that were mandated by Congress, and so you can expect
to see us back in the courtroom challenging all of
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those that USDA may not be able to actually get
rid of on its own.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Amazing, such impact and what a unique idea. The Agriculture
Department is going to go back to a warding money
based on merit.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What an amazing you. Yeah, yeah, well, congratulations for that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I want to turn to another very important role you
played over the years. You've helped me expose a hunder
Biden grif scheme a lot of the Russia collusion staff.
One of the things we did was file a foil
together back in nineteen trying to find out if the
Steele dossier was implemented into the intelligence community assessment that
concluded that Russia was trying to help Trump win the election,
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something that we now know to be disputed recently. That
lawsuit played a major role in prompting the D and
I to release information. It turns out that when we
put our request in and that's left did it. It
got to the career people, and that's what triggered some
whistleblowing people realizing, hey, wait a second, there shouldn't be
a Steele Dassier in this intelligence commit The main revelations
(24:33):
that the career people disagreed with allowing the dossier into
the Intelligent Commity was a direct result of a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
When you look at those documents, what comes to mind.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
What comes to mind is more of what we were
talking about before, right, the intentional hiding of documents. As
you mentioned, You know, we ask for any of these
communications where they were talking about the Steele dossier between
the CIA, between.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
D and I, between the FBI, and we were told
that only two pages existed.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
We now know in this recent release that not only
did they exist, but it's very suspect as to whether
or not they were intentionally hidden from us. And so
you know, this raises big flags of was their bad faith?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Who should be held accountable here?
Speaker 9 (25:17):
And that's certainly things that we're digging into, and you
can expect to see us back in the courtroom because
these people need to be held accountable, you know, the
people who are behind Russiagate, the people who created these
falsehoods and then hid them from the American public. And
so we might not be able to do a whole
lot at SLF on the first piece of that, right,
we need Congress to hold all of them accountable, but
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we can certainly hold the people who hid this from
the American public accountable through lawsuits, through bar complaints, ethical filings,
and so just like we did back in the Bill
Clinton days when he lied under oath, we continue to
see this all the way through to the end and
get not only the truth out, but hold the people
who've hidden that from us us accountable because we need
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people to stop doing this, and until punishment happens, they're
going to keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I want to follow up real quickly. It seems as
though you might be looking at two things. Sanctions under
the foil law under the Freedom of Information Act law
and then possibly referring people who hid things refer their
bar licenses. Of the those two possible paths for Southeaster
your legal foundation.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
Yeah, absolutely, And so you know we're going to go
back to the courtroom and then also refer these out
to whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Agencies we need to, whether it's you know, the.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Bar and Missions or whether we're talking about to Congress,
and let them do whatever it is that they can
do there to hold these bad actors accountable. Because when
you go into court and you swear to a judge
that no documents exist despite all of these searches that
you did, and then we flat out see that they
did those searches and documents were actually responsive and that
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they should have been released, that can't be allowed to
stand in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's going to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah,
A good file, Yeah, Kim.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You know, I think about President Trump and his pursuit
of weeding out corruption and discrimination, and it must feel
like a game of whack a mole to him. But
thank goodness, he has people like you and organizations like
yours to root this out.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, the USDA.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Programs he might have never known about this if you
had not rooted that out, and there are probably hundreds
of those across a dozen.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Agencies in Washington.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
So you were doing Yeoman's where at Kimberly Herm and
the executive director over at Southeastern Legal Foundation.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Thanks for being with us tonight.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Absolutely all right, everybody. We've got much more after these messages.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
If you've been watching and reading justin News, you know
there's been a real large string of victories for those
who fight for the defensive life, to fight the abortion industry,
a tremendous run, including in the last few days in
Texas where there's some big announcements joining us to discuss
all those developments in the enthusiasm in the pro life movement.
Is the president forty days for Life, Our good friend,
(28:07):
Sean Carney Shan, good to.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Have you back on good to be back, Thanks for
having me all right.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Planned parenthood has had quite a few strikes in the
last few weeks, but perhaps none more symbolic or impactful
than the decision in the heart of Texas for a parenthood.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Clinic to close. Tell us about it, Why it's.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Important, Yeah, it's the largest abortion facility in the Western hemisphere.
Plan Perenthod bragged about that. It's seventy eight thousand square feet.
It's in Houston, Texas, where I live. I was there
in the early days trying to prevent the sale of
that building to Plan Parenthood, and we delayed them opening
about a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
But they open.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
They averaged about six or seven thousand abortions per year,
at one point doing abortions up to twenty four weeks
when it was legal here in Texas. And they are closing.
They can no longer keep that open. And this is
on the cusp of them closing their flagship planmed Parenthood
back in the spring in Manhattan, and that building is
now for sale for thirty nine million dollars. That was
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almost more shocking than this. So to have this happen
within a couple of months is amazing. There have now
been thirty eight Plain parenthoods to close in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Wow, that's just jaw dropping.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, and I know you keep your finger on the
pulse of others that have not yet closed, but that
are possibly facing closure.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
How many others out there? Where are they?
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
They're everywhere.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
We just had four plain parenthoods closed in California. There
have been six that have closed in the last twelve months.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
In the state of New York. What we're seeing is
it's not.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Just the red sort of predictable abortion free states or
states where they highly regulate abortion. Claim Parenthood is closing
abortion facilities in places where abortions are on the rise.
And the reason for that is because they cannot keep well.
In some of those places, abortions on the decline, and
that's why they're closing. But in other places, it is
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the defunding and their dependency upon a tax dollars. And
you know, eighty percent of all the abortion pills are
still distributed brick and mortar, and so that's one of
the reasons why we finally start to see the number
of abortion pills going down from seventy eight percent of
all abortions to a year ago to sixty eight percent
(30:25):
of all abortions. And so these closures are having a
tremendous impact. I think we'll see about twenty five to
thirty more planned parent hoods closed before Christmas.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Wow, that is a huge number. Sean.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You mentioned that some are in these blue states that
have robust abortion industries within the state under the state regulations.
But there seems to be some generational stuff. It does
seem like gen Z there's a lower demand for abortions
from gen Z morby a more.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Family friendly generation.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What are you seeing just culturally that may also be
driven It's not all just regulatory strikes, to be some
culture of life issues philossoming as well.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean women are choosing life. That's the good thing.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
It's the best reason for abortion numbers to go down.
And part of it is you have the abortion leaving
DC where Plan Parenthood really has had a stronghold for decades,
and going into the grassroots where the pro life movement
is more powerful, you have things like you know, forty
Days for Life and Plane parenthod has said that their
abortion no show rate goes as highest seventy five percent
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when we're out there of praying and offering alternatives. You
also see the number of pregnancy medical centers, you know,
they're now outnumber abortion providers seven to one. So it's
because we are providing the professional and loving options to abortions.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
That women are turning around and hurting the bottom.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
Line of these local abortion facilities. Generation Z is by
far the most pro life generation at their age than
any other previous generation at that age.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
You know, all of them have a picture.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
Of their own ultrasum, you know, and forty percent of
them voted for Trump. So it's really a phenomenal thing
to see younger kids getting more conservative at a younger age.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, I didn't know that the Crisis Pregnancy Center's out
number abortion facilities. That is absolutely incredible and what a
bright spot in this hole, in.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
This whole narrative.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I want to ask you about the funding though, because
Planned Parenthood, you know, they can obviously still reach out
for private funding from organizations. You have so many liberals
who claim that they support Planned Parenthood and the work
that they do.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Why aren't they showing up?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
I mean, last year, Claimed Parenthood lost seventy three thousand
individual donors. They lost seventy three thousand, so they had
a thirty two percent drop in donations last year, and
that is unbelievable. Part of it is they have an
incompetent leader, Alexis mcgil Johnson is just.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
It's not her fault.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
She's just nowhere nearly as talented as Cecil Richards was
and Cincil Richards got sick and had to resign and
eventually passed away. But she led them for twelve years.
She got them more tax funding, She married herself to
the Obama administration, She spoke at.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
The DNC, she raised a lot of money when Trump.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Was elected the first time, she was, unfortunately for US,
a very effective leader of planed parenthood. They don't have
that now, and now they have a lot of employment issues,
they have hr issues, they have their.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Staff trying to unionize.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
There's been a couple of locations where blame bearded workers
have protested alongside us outside of a blame parento. So
they're a mess at a time they can't afford to
be a mess. And that is a tremendous advantage for
the pro life movement. It's one of the many reasons
we're winning. We're offering loving and medical alternatives to abortion.
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We're changing hearts and minds, and that's why it doesn't
matter how pro abortion California and New York is, you
can still close abortion facilities in those states.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, winning the hearts and minds. In the cultural argument,
the faith argument, is just so amazing. Real quickly, you
mentioned abortion pills and other things going on. Texas is
reaching its long arm into New York, and it's an
interesting potential strike. Who would think that the Texas Attorney
General would have some jurisdiction of New York.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
But tell us about that case.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
Yeah, an abortion doctor in New York is mailing abortion.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Pills into Texas. That's illegal. That's absolutely illegal.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
So they're going after the doctor, and this judge is
trying to prevent that.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
But that case hopefully goes to.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
The Supreme Court because Texas is enforcing our abortion laws.
If you ship pills into the state, if you prescribe
the pills, that is illegal. There's a guy who's going
to face a murder trial because he slipped his pregnant
girlfriend in Fort Worth and are forty six abortion pill
and killed the baby. And so they have real laws
(34:57):
on the books. They're enforcing them like these cases because
it highlights that the pro life states are taking this
seriously because they see the unborn person as just that
the biological reality of the baby, and therefore here she
deserves protection.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Under the law.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A little bit of science back on the table. How
about that Seark Charney. It's always an honor to have
you on. Congratulations all the work that you've been doing
it forty days for life.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Good to have you on today.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I what a great discussion, all right, folks. I keep
warning about this A man Key's warning about this. Free
speech maybe revived a little bit here in the United
States with Donald Trump's win. In overseas, particularly places like
the United Kingdom, it is engraved dangerous on life supports
and critical condition. We're going to have an incredible story
coming out of the United Kingdom in this a second.
I'll tell you about that right after these messages. Hey, folks,
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Speaker 3 (37:09):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
If it has not been made clear that Europe has
a much different view about free speech than the United States, says,
then we have more evidence for you. Unfortunately, a new
law went into effect in the UK called the Online
Safety Act, which requires anyone within the UK's borders, including Americans,
to submit their secure papers to access lawful information online
and gives British bureaucrats broad sweeping powers to determine what
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content they believe is harmful online. And we already know
that just posting wrong think in the UK can literally
land you in prison. So joining us to discuss this,
as the director of policy for net Choice, Patrick hedg Er, Patrick.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Welcome back, Hey, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
It also sounds like they are trying to or already
have banned VPNs, which is kind of one of the
only workarounds there.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Yeah, so, of course this sounds like a great law.
Who could be against the Online Safety Act? But the
devil is always in the details with legislation like this,
and what we are seeing is that you are being
forced to show your ID, your government IDs, I mean,
your most sensitive information.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
To be able to access benign.
Speaker 11 (38:15):
Services like Spotify, to be able to just listen to
music online, you have to show your ID. And of
course all the proponents of this law say, oh, this
is just targeting pornography, it's targeting other things we don't
want kids to see. That's all well and good, but
at this what you have to again look at the
details here. The penalties here are so severe that companies
are putting in place these age gates because they're scared
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of the government. And it's really concerning because copycats of
the Online Safety Act in the United Kingdom have been
introduced at the state and federal level here in the
United States. And yes, of course the British are trying
to take the step to ban VPNs, which is a
huge attack on privacy, and having to show your ID
to be able to speak online is of course a
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huge attack on anonymous speech.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And the synergy is between Great Britain and those who
would prefer a censorship industrial complex here are very close, right,
GARM was in Great Britain and then clearly try to
insert its ideas into the American society. Obviously, the Trump
era has given a remarkable reversible that trend, but there's
a lot of people waiting for the next Democrat president
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to do this here.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, we Net Choice have been fighting laws
like this at the state level that would force you
to show your ID to use very common online services
like even doing a Google search. And you have to
look at the underlying DNA of the UK's Online Safety
Act and some of the bills that have been proposed
here even at the federal level, There is a federal
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bill called KOSA right, it's the Kid's Children's Online Safety Act.
It is a bill that of course, who could be
against a bill that's called that, But again you have
to look at the details. The penalties are so severe
that you're going to have web services that are collecting IDs,
and we just saw how dangerous that can be with
(40:06):
this latest tea app that was on the App Store.
It was collecting IDs to verify that its users were women,
and all of those IDs were breached and somebody created
a map of where those users live. That's how serious
the cybersecurity implications are here. Yes, we want to keep
people safe online, but there are constitutional ways to do
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that do not invade privacy.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
The names of these builds are always so deceptive. It's
like Sydney's sweety skin suit on Rose O'donnald. It's just
never what it looks like on the outside. I want
to ask you about two competing political ideologies happening simultaneously
in the UK. On one hand, they were the first
before the United States to return to normalcy and sanity
when it came to the gender issue, and yet they're
(40:52):
going in the opposite direction on this How did those
two ideologies and those two you know, leftward and right
word directions coexist.
Speaker 11 (41:01):
Yeah, you know, I can't claim to be an expert
on British politics or British society, but I think it's
important and an important lesson for us not to just
immediately graft ideas from the United Kingdom over here to
the United States. We have a different, really underlying political
history that's really important. Yes, we have some shared values
like common law and things like that, but we have
things here in the United States because we broke away
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from the United Kingdom. We have the First Amendment. These
are things that we have to cherish here. And so
it's really concerning to me when I see US lawmakers
at both the state and federal level saying, oh, well,
this is a great thing that we're hearing from the
United Kingdom. We just need to apply that here. That
should be a non starter.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, that should be real quickly before we let you go.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
There was a story on Justin News last week the
British London Police have created a unit full time to
monitor speech online for any negative comments about migrants or
illegal migrants in Great Britain. That looks a little bit
eerily similar to what the FBI with Twitter during the
COVID pandemic. Your thoughts on this idea that police are
going to become a bigger part of speech monitoring in
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the world that far left censors are envisioning in the future.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
Well, ultimately, this is why we oppose having to show
ID to speak online. Anonymous speech is a critical bedrock
foundational principle in the United States. I mean, the federalist
papers themselves right written pseudononymously. So the ability to be
able to speak without a fear of threat or recourse.
I mean, think back to the mid twenty tens when
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we were talking about the IRS targeting.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
People because of their political participation.
Speaker 11 (42:41):
So we see the value and being able to speak freely,
in being able to speak without being identified or threatened.
And so that's why it is really so critical that
we focus on things to help keep people safe online,
public education and resources for parents in law enforcement, versus
having everybody put their ID in most information right next
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to what they're saying on their social media.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, there's something bad in the water in these Commonwealth
countries because it's the UK, it's Canada, it's Australia.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
To some degree.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I don't know what it is, but it scares the
stink out of me.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I don't want to come and hear.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Patrick Hedger, director of policy for Net Choice, thanks so
much for being with us tonight in shining light on
these big issues, because you're right, they could come to
our shores the next time the.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Democrats in power.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Thank you, absolutely, all right, everybody, some final thoughts on
the other side when we come back from this break,
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
To our final segment of the night. John.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
You know, every once in a while there is a
news story that seems to shift the sentiment in Washington,
and I think that this story today about the.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Grand jury being in paneled.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Look, we don't know what charges might come, and we
won't know that probably for some time, but it feels
like the American people are finally moving in the direction
of getting answers.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I think that's right. I mean, I think we listened.
The question was wopam body follow the normal process? And
so the first process is let the FBI open up
the investigation. They did that that's the Grand conspiracy case.
Then she applied the strike force concept, which is get
your best stars and put them on one team. Put
them at this That is something they used typically for
a conspiracy case involving the mob or drug cartels. Now
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it's going to be used for the Obama administration of
those who succeeded it. And then the next question is
are you going to empower that entity the strike force
to go get the evidence, compel the turning over of evidence.
And today we learn the answer toes granjury. Now here's
what I think is going to be the next few
things to be watching. Does people said, well why was
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it today?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Why today?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, over the weekend, a couple of major US attorneys
got approved. Janine Perrol in Washington, d C. And then
the Miami US attorney, who is by all accounts a
outstanding litigator and prosecutor can he got approved. And as
we've been saying, one of the notions in the FBI
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case is to take this case in Florida start with
Jack Smith the most current event in work its way backwards.
The fact that those two got approved this week and
that she did this today maybe tells you something. I
think you should look for the following moves. And again
we're still a couple of weeks off from this, but
I think the most likely place will be the grandeury
will be impaneled in Florida, maybe a place like Fort
(45:27):
Pierce where Judge Cannon used to reside, or what you
were operated out of, and to look at the primary crime,
something that stretches from twenty four back to sixteen, as
the deprivation of civil rights that you deprive people like
Mike Flinn, George Papadappus, President Trump, Carter Page their civil
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liberties by the way you conducted government business without a
basis to intrude on their freedoms, their speech and other things.
And then with that you can take that to the
censorship era. You could take to the Ukraine era. You
can take that all the way to the raid at
mar Lago and whatever happened in the aftermath of that.
I would be looking for a grand jury to be
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operating in Florida, and I think maybe the Senate finally
burping up a couple of these nominations getting him done,
one of those being Miami, the other being Washington, d C.
Judge Aine would be an outstanding prosecutor as well. The
jury pulls a lot tougher here for this sort of
a case. So I think Florida is the place that
I'm going to be watching closely to see if the
first subpoena has come. That's what's that, right, grand jury?
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Then what a grand jury's issue? The issue subpoenas?
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Yeah, and you know here in DC, that would be
I guess under Judge Bosberg's It's.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Another reason Judge Bozenberg has really asserted himself in front
of the Trump administration and he's the chief chief judge
here in the district.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
And the thing with Florida, because liberals are going to say, oh,
if it's in paneled in Florida, then you know it's
it's definitely going to go the direction of President Trump
and against these who have been possible conspirers. But Florida
is a fair venue. DC is not a fair venue DC.
You know which way it's going to go. They're not
ninety ten.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, and you know Florida fifty five to forty five,
and in some places it's the other way around you.
Miami did go for President Trump this time, but traditionally
it hasn't, and Miami would be the chief district for
a trial potentially, So it's just a more more evenly
split populace as opposed to a ninety ten populace in DC,
which we saw how that worked for John Durham.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, all right, I want to shift to something else
that's cultural. So the Sydney Sweeney thing. You've all heard
about this by now, we don't need to explain it.
Border Patrol put out a video where they used a
lot of the same language about having great genes and
you know it being passed down from generation to generation,
and it was a recruiting ad. But gosh, I don't
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even know if they're going to need it because their
acting director just said that they have seventy eight thousand
applicants for now. That's ICE, but still, I mean people
who are looking to protect the homeland in one way
or another.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
When you return agencies back to their core mission, you
stop social engineering. You put the military back to this
fighting wars. Like what happened, recruitment went up, You put
ICE back to and CPB back. People want to go
do those jobs. They're audible jobs, but who wants to
do them. If you can't, you aren't allowed to do
those jobs. And I think that that is a really
encouraging sign. It's a warning sign to the Democrats too,
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that they continue to pick the wrong fights. I fear
Mondomini will be the next wrong fight they pick in
New York for Democrats. But that's you know, Democrats have
to come to this on their own and realize they're
running into a headwind of enormous common sense in America
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I had a favorite story this morning.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Because I watched the New York Times and everybody say, oh,
this whole Hillary Clinton thing is Russian disinformation. Jerry Dunleavy
went through every book written by Hillary Clinton and her staff,
every speech, every interview they gave after twenty seventeen. He
found their signed confessions that she did, in fact order
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the Russia dirty trick and in the same specific sophicity,
including getting the FBI involved. It is a devastating eight
thousand words start. It's a long story, but if you
want to see how easy it will be for the
government to pierce Hillary Clinton's denials right now, this is
a muss read.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Stay.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
I'm so proud of it. Terry does great work. We
I'm on the show every so often. But such a
great story.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Absolutely, all right.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
So we only have thirty five seconds left, all right,
So numbers got jobs, numbers got revised down. BLS is
out Ali's commissioners out. Brotheran Trump says he's going to
hire somebody very quickly.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Thoughts, yeah, he will, and then we'll see what the
numbers do after that and see whether there is political
and manipulation. There was a year and a half where
the barrel laatey six. Almost every time we give a number,
then revise it substantially. Can't we get it right the
first time, even if.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
It's even if it's not politically weighted.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It's a competence.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yes, thank you, all right, everybody, thanks so much for
joining us tonight. We will be back tomorrow night at
six pm Eastern. Have a wonderful evening and see that
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