September 29, 2025 • 50 mins
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Segment A: NEW J6 PIPE-BOMB REPORTING - AND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN LOOMS
Segment B: FBI AGENTS AT J6 AND THE PIPE BOMB MYSTERY
Segment C: WHO'S AT FAULT FOR THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?
Segment D: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S MEETING WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU
Segment E: COVID SCHOOL CLOSURE SCANDAL
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Good dating, America. Welcome to the Monday edition, a very
busy Monday edition of Justin Who's No Noise. I'm your host,
John Solomon, reporting to you is always from the nation's capital,
where today peace was breaking out, or at least a
plan to break out police in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A man who is going to bring us up the
speed on that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
In addition, we got word today that the meeting between
congressional leaders and President Trump went badly, which means tomorrow
night the government will begin shutting down. Vice President jd
Vance confirming that while that shutdown occurs, keep an eye
in the Trump White House. I think they're going to
shrink the size of government in ways you never imagine.
We're going to be chronicling that in the next couple
of days over at justin whus dot com. That's some
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of the big new Who is a man who's going
to bring up to speed on the historic deal. But
I want to turn to something that we broke in
the last seventy two hours. It began Thursday night with
a story on the number of FBI agents who went
to the Capitol on January six, two hundred and seventy
four of them and then came out and said they
witnessed a politically biased FBI that the J six defendants
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were treated substantially different than those who committed crimes during
the BLM riots of twenty twenty. Today, we were able
to provide to the American public two new FBI documents
that Cash Bttel has found. One of them is the
lab report on the two J six pipe bombs. Remember
the pipe bombs found at the DNC and the R
and C, the two major political party headquarters. There's a
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really interesting question that those reports raised, which is how
do bombs that had a one hour timer sit for
sixteen hours without going off. FBI lab report couldn't answer that,
though it did confirm that there were one hour timers
on sixteen.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Sixteen hour old bombs. No one can explain what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But the mystery got even more severe when we got
the main witness interview with the woman who the FBI interviewed,
who says she found the Republican National Committee bomb and
she says the story that the FBI is telling that
the bombs are there for sixteen hours can't be true
because she walked by the Republican National Committee bomb site
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an hour before she found the bomb and there was
no bomb there. Then it suddenly showed up when she
came back on her laundry rum. She's adamant about it.
And also she said at the time she saw the bomb,
it still had twenty minutes on its time or something
that the FBI lab doesn't acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
What does that mean.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We got a lot more questions and we got answers,
But at least now under Cash Mattel, the FBI is
providing Congress in the American public evidence long denied the
American Republican With that, and then the second block of
the show, the chairman of the newly formed House Judiciary
J six Subcommittee, Barrylaudomick, is going to be here. We're
going to ask him a lot of questions about these documents.
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But first let me turn over to my amazing Coast amanahead,
who is there today, as Benjamin Detnaw the President. A
pretty dramatic day, Amanda including apparently Netnyao apologized to the
Katari he's personally about the attack on their soil. It
sounds like the parties are coming together in release.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, we have a great guest coming up later in
the hour.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Who I want to ask specifically about that phone call
because obviously the deal was a huge, a huge deal,
but you know what happened before it In that phone call,
I think set the stage four. But yes, I was
at the White House while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah,
who was meeting with President Trump today and obviously that
big news came out of the meeting as the President
is working on ending the conflict between Hamas and Israel
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and Gaza, something he talked about frequently on the campaign trail. First,
the President outlined the plan that he has put forward
to finally end that war, a plan that he announced Netanyah,
who agreed to, and briefly discussed the history of how
this whole situation has gotten to this point trigger warning
its biblical watches.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Let us not forget how we got here. Hamas was
elected by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking
they would live in peace. Remember that long time ago
they withdrew. They said, you take it, this is our
contribution to peace. But that didn't work out. That didn't
work out. It was the opposite of peace. But the
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plan that we put forward today is focused on ending
the war immediately getting all of our hostages back, getting
everything back.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
There were twenty points in that deal, a lot of
which President Trump did not even have time to discuss
today because there were so many meaningful ideas in this plan.
But he also announced that he had broke her to
historic trilateral coordination plan with the United States, Israel and
cutter as we reference before, check it out.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
A short time ago, we had a historic phone call
in the Oval Office with Prime Minister Tani, who's really
a great person, and so we had a great talk.
We agreed to launch a formal trilateral mechanism between Israel,
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Quitar and the United States to begin a dialogue to
enhance mutual security, correct misperceptions, and avoid future misgivings and John.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
One of the more lighthearted moments today came with President
Trump reintroducing a pronunciation of the Abraham Accords, and he
explained his reasoning behind it that you know, NETANYAHUU and
a lot of other people, especially in their Hebrew dialects,
what they call it. But I even caught a certain
CNN commentator who hosts a nighttime show on cn Kenvil Hollins,
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smiling a little when everyone was laughing at President Trump
as he was making funny comments about it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So it's a big day for the world if this
carries out, and there's some developments tonight as we dote
first getting Israel and Cutter, who have been at odds
for a long time together. Cutter is the sort of
country that can make things happen. They got one of
our hostages back this weekend. But tonight the power Indian
government embraced this plan. The government obviously reports to Hamas,
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which is a political arm, but the government or the bureaucracy,
that is a really good sign that what's happening here
may be a historic path towards peace. A lot of
roadblocks ahead, but pretty historic. Dam I'm glad you were there.
You had great coverage all day. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Speaking of great I love having this first guest on.
I say he is a sage of sanity in a
budget see of insanity in Washington. He's a great congressman
from the state of Wisconsin, and now he's had in
the ring for a governor Wisconsin. I think he's going
to do very well. Congressman Tom Tiffany, sir, good to
have you on the show.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Good afternoon, Amanda, John good to join you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I want to start with the impending sand clock, which
is winding down tomorrow night at midnight. It sounds like,
according to Vice President J. D Vance, the government will
shut down. In years past, the Democrats have tried to
make this a Republican shutdown, but this feels like a
Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
To me, tell me what you think.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Yeah, we would really rather not see the government shut down.
The House of Representatives did its work a couple of
weeks ago to pass the continuing resolution give us time
to be able to get the appropriations process done over
the next seven weeks, and Chuck Schumer said, no, I'm
not going to go that route.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
And it's really unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
And I am so glad that our leadership and the
White House has set no to the extortionist demands that
are being put out there. I mean, think about it.
They want to give free health care to illegal aliens.
That's part of the deal that they want. They want
to get rid of the fifty billion dollars we put
in the Working Families Bill for rural hospitals that really
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affects districts.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Like mine in rural America.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
So the Democrats are on the wrong side of this,
and I really don't know what they're thinking. I actually
think I'm more optimistic. I think there's going to be
a deal by October first, because I think there's going
to be some sane Democrats in the Senate that are
going to say, hold it, we do not want.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To own this right Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, in congressman, I mean, Chuck Schumer's kind of stuck
between Iraq and a hard place because if there is
a shutdown, then President Trump has vowed to take that
opportunity to trim down the federal government. So do you
think that that is a good enough reason for him
to accept this deal?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And also, I mean shutting down the government.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Look, we've all got a little bit of Dennis the
Menace anarchy in US, and we want to see what
would happen if we shut down the government. But it
cost the American people when it shuts down, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It does.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
And you know, the back pay gets done and all
the rest, and I mean, it just is expensive doing that.
The thing that I'm heartened by is that what I'm
hearing from the White House, and I don't know if
you're hearing this. But for example, people's social Security and
Medicare checks, that is a priority. The White House and
President Trump will make sure people get those.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Our military, our troops.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
They're going to get paid because they can prioritize those
things that are essential.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
This White House knows what is essential.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
And this brinksmanship by Senator Schumer, I just don't regardless
of what he does, he is in a real box.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And this is not one the Democrats are going to
be able to call a Republican shut down. Not what
after all the work at the House, the White House,
and the Senate have done. So I want to turn
to what also happened today, President Trump putting out a
twenty point plan to achieve peace in the long war
torn area of Gaza. It's been in the war since
Hamasa's horrific atrocities on October seventh. It seems like we
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may be on the custom of a deal and getting
cut or involved, getting large numbers of other Arab neighbors involved.
Seems like we're getting a whole regional investment in it.
Tell us what you think about it.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
So you guys go back a few administrations. Have we
ever seen a president that has the respect of both
the Arab people and the Jewish people like President Trump.
Think about when President Trump went to the Arabic countries
very early on in his second term here is you
know what, six seven months ago something like that. He
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was treated with great respect, and he treated them with
great respect.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
It's the same with Israel and the Jewish people.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
It is just amazing that this man, President Trump has
the respect of both parties.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
But that's why it's getting done. And I think the
big question now.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
If they're able to complete this is will Iran be
a good actor? You know it's they don't have a
good history of being a good actor. They've been the
chief destabilizing force in the Middleast over the last decade
or so. So hopefully Iran can be kept to heal
and maybe we can have peace break out in the
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Middle East and have those countries prosper because they have
so much wealth over there that they could just make
great countries that are just a beautiful place on this earth.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Absolutely doubt, sir. I want to turn to midterms.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Obviously, twenty twenty four, Wisconsin was a swing state and
it went for President Trump. With respect to your own race,
and congratulations, by the way, on that announcement. How are
you feeling the tea leaves are looking in the state
of Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
So you know, Wisconsin's a great state with wonderful people,
but it's state leadership is lacking at this point. I mean,
the next governor is going to be left with a
significant deficit. Our energy costs are among the highest in
the Midwest. They used to not be that way. And
by the way, this governor is converting thousands of acres
of some of the most beautiful farmland in America into
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the eye sores of wind and solar facilities. And we
are now in the bottom ten states for creating.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Jobs as well as.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
For entrepreneurs to be able to build new facilities to
carry out their dreams in our state. And all those
things are headed in the wrong direction in Wisconsin. And
we have the opportunity to change that in twenty twenty six,
good people of the state of Wisconsin. We're going to
give them a clear choice here. Do you want prosperity
like we're seeing with so many other states, or do
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you want to be amongst the woke and broke like
our neighbors in Minnesota and Illinois.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, they're rolling up a lot in those blue states,
aren't they. I want to turn to the border because
that was one of President Trump's big promises. It changed
so rapidly, and now we're beginning to see a mass exits.
I think about two million illegal aliens already out of
the country in the first eight months. How much does
that play in Wisconsin. And do the good and wise
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residents in Wisconsin real realize how much progress has been
made in a short period of time.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
For a lot of people that do for people that read,
you know, the liberal media, you know, they're not going
to realize what success has been and that there are
really still great concerns. And yet, I mean, Dane County
continues to Madison continues to be a sanctuary county. And
we just had two young people a couple of months
ago that were killed by a second offense illegal alien
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drug drunk driver that should have been referred by Dane
County Sheriff's Department to Ice and had that person removed. Instead,
we have two innocent people that are dead. Those things
continue to happen here in the state of Wisconsin, and
we're really trying to call attention to that that we
cannot have a sanctuary state in Wisconsin. Let's make sure
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those people that are coming into our country are coming
in legally, and because we favored legal immigration, that's the
way it should be done. But I think a lot
of people in Wisconsin are understanding that it is better.
And Plus the amount of fentinel coming into our state
has come down, the number one killer of young people,
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and so there's progress being made.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A lot of people in Wisconsin realize that's the case.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That's great, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
There are other types of sanctuaries as well. Restrooms for
women and girls, locker rooms for women and girls should.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be safe spaces for them.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But I read an awful story about a young gal
who's an athlete in Wisconsin and she and her PE class,
her female pe class, were forced to stand there while
a young male student just ogled them. I mean, this
kid was definitely not any type of gender questioning or
transitioning or anything like that. He was just a boy,
a young boy. And I thought of you because I
know you're a girl, dad, And I'm wondering if this
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is an issue in Wisconsin to the degree that it is,
because I hear about it all around the Beltway. I
hear about it in Virginia. Obviously, that horrific case in
Lowden County. Is that an issue for midterms in Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Still?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
It is?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
It was in the November election, and we have a
go winner that stands with boys being able to go
in girls' bathrooms. And by the way, the Democrats are
going to have a knockdown, drag out primary. It'll be
really interesting to see where all them stand as they
race to the left.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
But I can make just one thing clear.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
If I'm elected as the governor of the state of Wisconsin,
girls will be going in girls' bathrooms, not boys.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's pretty clear. SOMPOL should be as it always is
with you, sir. You always have such great principles and
always stick to them. It's great to have you on today, Congressman, thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
For joining us.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Great to join you, Johnny.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, appreciate you always. Thank you so much. All Right,
folks have the break.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Or the Welcome back to America.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I can say this, honestly, one of the most consequential
investigators in all of the United States House of Representatives.
His work on the House Administration Jay six sub committee
last two years redefined what we learned about January sixth,
what truth we were denied. And now he's the chairman
of a new subcommittee House Judiciary where we're beginning to
dive into what the law enforcement did and didn't do
on January sixth. Joining us right now from the Great
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State of Georgia, Congressman Very Loudham, a Congressman. Good to
have you on the show.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
John, It's always good to be with you and Amanda.
I mean, you guys are out there getting the truth
to the American people.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, we're grateful and we couldn't do it without you
and all the hard work you've done. You fought for
this committee. We have this story this morning, documents that
you and Jim Jordan have been able to get from
the new Director, Cash Mattel, And obviously they raised a
lot more questions.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
For me than they answered.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You've got an FBI lab that can't explain how bombs
are sitting for sixteen hours but only had a one hour.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Timer didn't explode.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And then you have a woman who says, wait a second,
that's sixteen hours a bomb. Thing doesn't work for me
because I walked by the location, it wasn't there. I
came back from laundry it was. It was probably only
there for an hour. Tell us what you make of
this new evidence.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well, one thing, John, is if we had an FBI
that was actually helping us last Congress, we'd be a
whole lot further down the road now. But I want
to reemphasize these are documents that we're getting from this FBI,
not the previous FBI. They are being forthcoming because they
want to get to the bottom of these things just
as much as we do. And yeah, we were able
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to get a LAMB report of the pipe bombs, which
is something that's been a mystery to all of us,
always trying to figure out all the different nuances that
just did not make sense. I mean, there were so
many factors of these bombs. How could a highly trained
Secret Service bomb sniffing canine walk by these devices without
hitting on them? I mean law enforcement just letting people
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walk by and so a lot of times we were
just speculating what were these devices. And I remember another
reporter asking me one time. He said, well, we understand
there were egg timers on there, and how do you
place an egg timer that only goes for an hour
the night before without it exploding? And so I started
talking to some former explosive ordinance disposal specialists that I know,
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and one of the things that's interesting is they said
a lot of times an egg timer will not be
used as the primary fuse, but a secondary. In other words,
use an electronic timer with a particular basically a digital
clock that has a specific time for it to go off,
and you use the egg timer as the override. In
other words, you set the regular timer and then you
connect the wires to the egg timer for sixty minutes.
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Gives you plenty of time to get out of the way.
When I saw that made some sense to me, right,
But when I saw the lab report, there was no
electronic timer. It was only this sixty minute egg timer
that was wired to cause these bombs to explode. So
there is no way if they were placed the night
before on January fifth, which is a story we've been
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told they were not set.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
The timers weren't set.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Till later the next day, so whoever placed them then
had to come back. Okay, I'm not buying the story
anymore that they were there on the fifth. I believe
that they were put out on the sixth. At this point,
this is the theory that we're going on, especially since
the lady that found them said there were still twenty
minutes left on the timer when they were placed there.
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That's one of the key things, as you brought up.
The other thing is were there enough? Was there enough
explosives in the devices to actually cause a massive disposed explosion.
That's one of the things we're looking at in these reports,
which kind of leads us to believe maybe there wasn't,
but there definitely was explosives. Now follow me on this
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series of logic here, When would you build a bomb
that's not designed to go off, but every element of
it is to make you think it will, or make
a drug bomb sniffing dog think that it is a
live bomb that's a training exercise. So that also opens
the door to that was this possibly part of a
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training exercise or were they put there just to be
a diversion to draw resources away from the capital. So
there's several scenarios that we're looking at with both of
these devices. Some of it didn't were there people around
who knew that these were inert they were not active.
There's nothing I've seen in the FBI report that says
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that they could have exploded. They just say that there
were traces of explosives in there. So there's more questions,
but that's a good thing that we actually have more
evidence to have more questions, to open the door to
do more investigation to get to the truth.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Definitely, mister Chairman.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
As with any big city, but especially our nation's capital,
there are very few square inches of this city that
are not covered with cameras. And I know that this
has been a huge source of question and concern during
this because the cameras, from what I remember, they tilt
and pan, so there really should have been complete coverage
of what happened. What's the status of that footage.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Well, we do have the Capitol police footage from the
cameras around there, they really don't show the locations of
where the bombs were placed, as well as the cameras
that were on the d Triple C and the Republican
are the Republican Club. That's that where the first bomb
was placed, and so there's plenty of coverage around there.
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As we started in this committee, one of the first
things I want to do is we got all access
back to all the cameras again. We're going to scouring
all the cameras like we did before, knowing that the
Capitol Police cameras, the ones that were there, may not
have been panned in the right place at the right time,
but either way, they weren't in the position to really
get a good shot of where those bombs were placed.
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But the d tripleC did and the Republican Club did,
so we I'm now under this new idea everybody focused
on January fifth. I want to look at who maybe
came by within the hour of when the bombs were
were discovered, or anytime that morning on January sixth. The
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problem is, no one has any video footage of January sixth. Now,
I can understand that the Republican Club and the Democratic
Club their security cameras overright, but would not the FBI
or Metropolitan Police Secret Service. Capitol Police have asked for
the video footage of January sixth, and I'm finding out
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that the FBI never did ask for January sixth video footage.
They only asked for January fifth because someone in a
law enforcement agency told them, oh, we know, we know
what you need to look for. You need to look
at January fifth because this person in the hoodie, that's
who you're looking for. I think that's pretty bad as
poor investigative duties. I would want to have all the
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footage before and after to see who was there. But
apparently no one preserved any of the footage for January
six which is another element for us to look into.
Why not?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Wow, all right, I want to go to one other
thing that's missing, the geospatial phone records for who was
around the area of the bomb. So your team and
you have dug up something really interesting. The woman that
finds the RNC bomb and she seems very cooper or
she was on a laundry run, right, But she works
for a company, or she works for the program first Net,
which is the first responder's telephone network. She was at
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the Commerce department at the time, who handled the phone
records requests that got corrupted and now we don't have
any data left.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Well, it's actually the company she worked for, which is
an interesting coincidence there, all right, So we have a
situation where the FBI is going out looking for geofens data.
So they send out I think it was on it
was within a few days of January sixth, they send
out a preservation letter to all the major carriers carriers
all this data. Basically, what a preservation letter does, it says,
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we're investigating something we know, We've got to get the
lawyers to go through the law and provide you with
the documents or subpoenas whatever you need. In the meantime,
while we're getting all the lawyers do their work, do
not get rid of this data. That's what a preservation
letter does. And it actually specified with latitude and longitude
these areas that we're investigating. And so that letter was
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sent and so we presume that the FBI got some
generalized geofense data, but then they wanted more specific data
near the pipe bomb area. So when they went to
AT and T, they were sent for some reason to
First Net, which is it's actually an organization that was
set up via Congress after nine to eleven that gives
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first responders proprity cell phone service and data. So if
there's something.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Big going on.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
You and I may not be able to get a
phone call through, but the first responders can because they
preempt everyone else's phone calls. So first date, our first
net handles that first responder network their phones for some reason.
AT and T says, first nets, who you need to
go to to get this level of data? First net
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goes in to download that data, claims that and this
is something else we're looking into. They get the They
start on January the eleventh, claiming that data is going
to be overwritten. Okay, they're claiming the data is going
to be overwritten at midnight that night, even though they
had already received a preservation letter. So they have to
(26:36):
hurry up and over They end up overloading the server,
and the server corrupted all that data. This is what
I'm having several issues of that. Formerly working in information technology,
also working with high sensitive data within the military, that
stuff you generally hang on to. We talked to one
(26:57):
carrier said, look, we still have all the data from
the Oklahoma City bombing. That's the kind of data we
hang on to. Why after receiving a preservation letter and
you know, why would that level of data be automatically deleted?
Anyhow in that shorter period of time. These are questions
I have. I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just saying these
are legitimate questions we need to be asking. What is
(27:18):
the relationship here? Is the person who found the pipe
bomb works for the company that corrupted the data, and
then they tell the FBI the data wasn't corrupted. Then
they tell the data was corrupted. So this is a
mess that we've got to unravel.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And the good thing we know is you're going to
be asking the right question because you have for the
last three years. That's how we got so much of
the evidence we already now have, mister.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Chairman, a great honor to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We're going to be watching this very closey, a lot
more work ahead of us, but thank you for joining
us tonight.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Well, thank you, John. Let me just say, with the
Democrats on the this is something everybody ought to want
to get to the bottom up because Republican Democrat lives
suppose we at risk that day, That's right, and so
we should be working together on this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Even the Vice President Alex Yeah, Kamala Harris went by
by the bomb. That's such an important thing, mister chairman,
Thank you has always great honor. All Right, folks, quick
commercial bank. When we come back. More on the looming
government shutdown. If it's going to happen, we'll have that
right after this quick break. All right, Folks, all across
(28:31):
this country they're asking the big question tonight, will we
or won't we shut down the government? Well know, tomorrow
night at midnight. It does look like we're headed that way.
Jadie Vance said so. Just a short while ago here
Tom Tivity saying, well, maybe some Democrats will come out
of the send and save it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We'll have to wait and see it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But joining us now, someone who knows everything about the
way the government spends some money, as the director of
government affairs at the National Taxpayers Union, Tommy, Hello, Tommy,
good to have you.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Good evening, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All right, give us your vegas odds over under we
shut down tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
I think it's definitely a possibility that the government shuts down,
and I think it's definitely going to happen.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
It's unfortunate, it shouldn't have to happen.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
But Chuck Schumer, he doesn't want to let his Democrats
vote for a continuing resolution.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
It's really disappointing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, it is, But.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Tommy, if it does, there are a lot of people
out there who are salivating so much. I picture a
cartoon hobo watching a pie cool on a windowsill. They
are absolutely salivating over the notion of President Trump slashing
the federal workforce.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Is that the silver lining?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (29:32):
I come at it from two ways. One, I don't
think anybody wins in a government shut down. We pay
bureaucrats to stay home. It's really unfortunate while our troops
work and don't get paid. There's something really off about that.
And I think it just adds to this dysfunction in
Washington that we can't even do the most basic stuff.
But you know, I will say, there is this memo
that Russ Boyd put out a few days ago that
(29:53):
said if the government shuts down, they're going to move
forward with wide scale firings. I don't know if that
is a hundred percent legally, It'll have to work its
way through the courts. But I think it just shows
you that one the Trump administration is serious about trimming
the fat of the federal government. And I think it's
a good conversation to have and we'll see if they
move forward with it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, and Tommy on that point, the Supreme Court has
mostly signed with President Trump every time he's fired someone,
including at independent agencies. It seems like he's on a
role there. Maybe they're banking on that, but in this case,
they would argue that Congress gave them no choice, right,
we can't afford to have these people, so we're just
going to fire them to save money. How do you
think the courts might look at that.
Speaker 10 (30:33):
Yeah, to your point, Look, they've already ruled a few
times that said what the president is doing is within
his constitutional authority to do it. There was a report
out today that potentially one hundred thousand federal workers could
be putting in the resignation letter tomorrow because of all
these federal buyouts and DOGE.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
That's a very good thing.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
It's a lot of people, but ironically enough, it's only
a small percentage of the federal workforce. We have about
ten million people that are employed by the federal government,
so yes, on its base, it's a large number of people,
but it's just a smaller job in the bucket. And
I'll just say one other thing about the possibility of
the government shutdown. Look, this is all on the Democrats.
The House of Representatives, led by Speaker Mike Johnson.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
They did their job.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
They passed a clean continuing resolution to fund the government
at current levels. And Chuck Schumer, he really has to
show that he's fighting back against President Trump. He needs
to show his base that he actually wants to be
a fighter, and unfortunately the American people are going to
be caught in the crossfire as collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I also wonder if that collateral damage is Democrat votes
come next November, because you've got them holding out on
absurdities like transgender care and health care for illegal aliens
and things like that. I understand that Democrat minded voters
are on very different sides of this than a lot
of conservatives and even people down the center, but I
(31:54):
got to think that that's not Those aren't the winning issues,
are they?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No?
Speaker 9 (31:58):
It's not.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
I mean, you just have to get some of their ridiculous,
unreasonable asks. They want the president to overturn the huge
taxpayer savings from his one big, beautiful bill that just
passed what three months ago. There's no way the President's
going to overturn it. And then they also want to
extend these COVID era Obamacare subsidies to plus up tax
(32:20):
credits for wealthy people that receive healthcare. It really is ridiculous,
and I think when you add everything up, it's about
a trillion dollars in new spending just to keep the
government open for another seven weeks.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
And you know, I think the President was exactly right
in his meeting today to have the meeting to talk
through some of these issues. But he's not going to budge,
and he's not going to put long term deficits on
the table in exchange for a short term continuing resolution.
So we hope he continues to hold the line and
help Republicans in Congress do the same.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, this is a historic moment and the consequential one.
If it's executed right, it could really set the Washington
on a different arc. Before we let you go, we'd
be or missed not to ask about this. We get closer.
I've been here in this town thirty five years and
they were warning about Social Security and medicare.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Going bankrupt back then.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But now we're within the decade of it actually beginning
to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Give us some sense.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Is there anyone moving into direction that would create some
solution there or is this really another fiscal cliff coming
up over the horizon.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
You know, it's certainly a fiscal cliff looming out there.
I think there's another five or six years before the
program goes insolved, and it's a real problem.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Not enough people are talking about it.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Senator Cassidy from Louisiana, he's really shown a light on
this issue. He shows a lot of leadership, and we
hope he continues to do that. But again, Congress always
waits to the last minute to do things, whether it's
Social Security fund, the government even the one big beautiful bill.
I really think at some point there's going to have
to be a critical mass and really identify the problem
and fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, it's this generation's job to fix it. We can't
let it go on behind it so real quickly. Do
you guys still keep the Golden Fleece award? Don't you
do a regular award for misspending in America?
Speaker 10 (34:02):
You know, we do an annual rating of every memory
in Congress to see how they voted as our taxpayers,
and we're actually wrapping up last year's vote, so we
should have a new scorecard coming out of the next
several weeks, so I'll have to share the list with you.
A lot of good members that come on your program
that received a pluses.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
We would love to have that that's important to us
week care well.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Well say a pluses because we want to keep them
coming back on our show.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Definitely, we might want to highlight those in a misspending. Yeah,
Tom Maryello, you guys at Nashville Taxpayers for years, all
the time I've been in Washington, you have done such
extraordinary work protecting the American taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Great to have me in the show today. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thank you so much for see you next time you
as well.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Great great conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, folks, after the break, we'll take a closer
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Speaker 2 (36:09):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
A Mana told us about it at the beginning of
the show, A twenty point pathway to piece potentially in Gaza,
getting great reviews tonight. Even the Palestinian government tonight saying
they're very excited about what President Trump announced at the
White House today.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Former congresswoman and the co founder of the Abraham Accord's
Caucus on Capitol Hill. She's now a US Israel Education
Association fellow former Congresswoman Kathy mic Morris Rogers, Congresswoman.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Great to have you on the show.
Speaker 11 (36:36):
Thank you very much. It's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's an honor to have you on. All Right, we've
had false starts in the past. I was here covering
the handshake between Aaron Fatt and Clinton a long time ago.
But how big a deal is this and does this
feel like maybe one of the bigger movements towards peace
in the region.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Oh, I think this is definitely historic. So grateful for
the leadership of President Trump, as you, as everyone knows.
We're coming up on two years since the terrible day
on October seventh when Hamas attacked Israel horrifically, and we
need to pass forward. We need this to come to
an end. And today President Trump and Prime Minister Net
(37:12):
and Yahoo speaking on behalf of this twenty point plan
that would ensure that this is de radicalized, a tear
free zone, that hamas and gods that are not going
to be a threat to the neighbors in this region.
We definitely need to see more details on how hearts
and minds are going to be changed in that region.
(37:33):
But Trump has an economic development plan. He has a
plan to move forward, which is desperately needed.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Hangers on, I want to ask you about this perception
that a lot of folks, a lot of folks who
aren't big fans of Prime Minister Net and Yahoo, and
they say, well, he doesn't mean it. He's just saying this.
You know, he loves keeping this conflict going. But I
want to rewind to a few hours before this meeting
took place, where Bebe, Net and Yahoo acknowledged a couple
different strikes and cutter ricks regret for them. That seems
(38:02):
to me like a major move and something that was
probably a little personally humbling for him. That would set
the stage for maybe some some uh to make this deal.
I guess a little bit more substantial did it come
across you like that.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Well, like certainly were Prime Minister netanya who understands how
how desperate the situation is. He understands it Israel is
the only democracy in the Middle East and that they
are surrounded by those that are at times been, you know,
controlled by terrorists. And so I believe that Prime Minister
(38:38):
Netanyah who understands that we must get it right, that
we cannot have Hamas continuing to control Gaza, and that
he has been holding out to make sure that the
deal is going to ultimately protect Israel from Hamas and
other terrorists. What is most encouraging right now is that
Arab nations and other Muslim nations around the world are
(39:00):
looking are speaking out favorably on this twenty point plan.
That is going to be very important as this moves forward.
But we really need to you know, everyone's going to
be waiting to hear what Hamas has to say. Hamas
has to agree to this, and this is the this
is their moment. This is a time when hopefully that
not just Israel in the United States of America, but
(39:22):
other Arab nations and Muslim countries around the world and
others in Europe are saying that this is the path forward.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, pretty historic.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I want to talk about two players in the Middle East,
one who's an ally mostly of the United States, one
that's very much not an ally, Cutter and Iran.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
How important are they referee for us?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
The roles each could play in either shepherding or thwarting this.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
Well, they're both very important. President Trump in his first term,
you know, institute of the Abraham Accords, those nations, and
that agreement was historic. President Trump understand stands the dynamics
in in the Middle East. He understands what is going
to take to get Cutter, to get Iran, and he
(40:07):
was very aggressive with Iran earlier in this year, and
so he knows the leadership. He put pressure on them.
They know that he is serious and and I'm hopeful
that they will they will see this as an historic
agreement that it is and come on board and say
this is the path forward, while also recognizing that Israel
(40:29):
needs to be Israel's sovereignty needs to be recognized in
that region.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Very important.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
I want to ask you about the important work that
you did on the Abraham Accords Caucus, because I would
imagine whether you write it down or you have it
in your head, you've got a list of nations that
you want to see joining that as well.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Who do you anticipate could be coming down the pike.
Speaker 11 (40:48):
Well, certainly there's been a lot of eyes on Saudi
Arabia that that's been one of the focuses. But it's
been so encouraging to not just see the Abraham Accords
come into fruition, see the government to government to government
relationship that was built, but to see more tourism, more
(41:08):
economic activity. We want to keep building upon that foundation.
I really believe that not just government to government, but
getting the people to people, the economic relationship more solidified,
so that people's everyday people see the positive impact of
having this relationship in the Middle East, that it ultimately
(41:29):
is going to be the path that brings peace and
security to all in that region.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, I think President Trump said, say maybe even a
little prosperity for some of those nations, which would be great.
Before we let you go, Congresswoman, you talked about probably
the greatest challenge in this plan, which is, even if
all the parties agree, changing hearts and minds from a
long conflicted stand stance in the Middle East is a
trough one, how do we start that process?
Speaker 11 (41:56):
Well on the one of the steps that needs to
be taken is an education in the curriculum. And I
know that the Trump administration is already working with organizations
to ensure that the kids are not being radicalized when
they're still in school, that the curriculum is such that
the curriculum needs to be addressed as a part of
(42:16):
changing hearts and minds.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Does that education here in the United States player role
on that as well?
Speaker 11 (42:22):
Well? Absolutely? In the United States. How the United States,
what's going on on our college campuses as well as
in r K twelve system recognizing Israel as a democratic
nation as well as the importance of respecting people, basic
(42:44):
respect for humankind.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, what a good notion. We need to get that
instead the end in our schools.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Congressman, and I know a lot of people who miss
you on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
You're wake was large there, but it issured great to
have you on and I know you're working hard on
this piece plan. Great to have you join us tonight.
Speaker 11 (43:00):
It's great to be with you. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
All Right, folks are going to take kriok and brush
will break. There's a new documentary out about the real
story behind America's COVID school closures.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh, I want to watch this one. We're going to
get you that right after these messages.
Speaker 12 (43:24):
This is the story of the families who fought.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
To uncover the truth.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
California Teachers Association, the Teachers Union was doing opposition research
on parents.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Really high level of coordination fifteen Days.
Speaker 12 (43:38):
I don't have a direct number to director will Lindspeed
do you, yes?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I have director Willimsky's director of great Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
We have to use basically in the name of equity,
keep everything shut down, especially to school.
Speaker 12 (43:51):
Is that the virus keeping the schools closed?
Speaker 9 (43:53):
Or were there special interest?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
This was the biggest smash and grabs.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Stop the leading more money, we need trullion.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
That's a sick.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Society, well, folks, which you just saw as part of
the trailer from the new documentary fifteen Days, a real
story of America's pandemic school closures, which you can watch
on ex for free right now, joining us is the
director of that film. I tell you, Mark of Ar mrcivar.
I said, that's right, okay, Natalia, good to have you
on the show.
Speaker 12 (44:18):
Thanks, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
It is great honor to have you on.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
This is a fantastic moment I think in history to
ear this where for a long time we weren't allowed
to have this conversation, and when we were we weren't
giving any of the facts. Now we're getting the facts
and the freedom to debate it. Tell us what gave
you the inspiration to do this.
Speaker 12 (44:36):
I was an open school's parent. I saw the kids
suffering when the schools closed. I thought they'd open, you know,
next month, you know, in a month, in two months
and three months, but they really didn't open. And when
they did reopen, they were terribly restrictive, even for the
youngest kids who had to mask and distance. My kids
used to eat outside on the cold concrete in the
(44:58):
middle of winter. And so I want to to understand
why who did this? Because the kids were not being
kept safe and we certainly weren't putting them first.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, that's for sure, Natalia.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
I know John would agree that one of the best
ways to pick a part a conspiracy as a journalist
is to ask the question who benefits and why? You know,
why do they benefit? Who benefited from closing schools?
Speaker 12 (45:22):
Well, there are many organizations that benefited. I think President
Trump is really kind of cleaning the house and all
of the USA defunding and the NGOs on the extreme left.
I mean, I think indirectly many of them benefited, but
directly the teachers' unions. We ended up as a federal
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government paying one hundred and eighty nine point five billion
dollars to reopen the schools. This was money that Randy Weingarten,
Becky Pringle, the heads of the two largest teachers unions
in the country, were extorting from the federal government, first
from President Trump in the first administration, and then afterwards
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they you know, they got a check from President Biden.
What Randy Weingarten was originally asking for, and this is
actually in our film. Was they needed? She said they
needed one trillion dollars and on top of that another
one hundred billion because of the costs of reopening schools.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Wow, talk about taking advantage of a situation. And I
think somewhere in that trailer I heard this word, and
I've heard it said many times that some on the
left took COVID to be a gift to really launch
forward their sort of globalist, big government picture. Did you
find some of that in your research that they viewed COVID,
which we all viewed as a whore, as a gift
(46:44):
for achieving maybe of their political ends.
Speaker 12 (46:47):
Well, I mean they really, they said it themselves. We
just weren't listening. It was March twenty twenty. We were
sanitizing our groceries. I threatened my husband, who was just
about to turn fifty, you know, I said, do not.
Speaker 9 (46:58):
Go outside, because you're going to die.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
You know.
Speaker 12 (47:01):
I was one of the first people who was wearing
a mask. I was so cautious on the New York
City streets. And in the meanwhile, while we weren't looking,
and while we were told to fear, be scared, the
virus is dangerous to you.
Speaker 9 (47:14):
We had Jane.
Speaker 12 (47:15):
Fonda as a ring leader with Randy Winngarten and the
heads of all of these NGOs, the Green Peace NGOs,
all of these environmental and social justice movements, saying this
is an incredible opportunity. We can't squander it, don't. Jane
Fonda said, we don't have the time, where the resources
to do these crises separately.
Speaker 9 (47:35):
We have to use them together. So yeah, it was happening.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I want to ask you about what age demographics suffered
the most because obviously, in your firmative years and when
you're in elementary school, you're trying to pick up on
social cues, you're just trying to learn the basics of communication.
In middle school, you're going through the trauma of being
a teenager in social media. In high school, we had
multiple classes of high school seniors and college seniors who
never got to walk in their graduation. When it comes
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to breaking down these different groups of children, who do
you think suffered the most?
Speaker 12 (48:08):
I honestly, I think everybody suffered, and that was the
goal of creating this film. I think I show in
the film that there is no demographic amongst children who
didn't suffer. I interviewed children from a lower socioeconomic demographic,
the younger children, older children, and also very wealthy families
who all said their children were suffering. The film is
(48:31):
dedicated to Noah Sylvester, who was a Brooklyn Tech High
School student here in New York City. His mother was
a plaintiff on my open schools case against Mayor Deblasio
in New York City. Unfortunately, despite everything she did, and
she had resources, she had education, She's a psychiatrist. Noah
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took his life at age twenty one this past May. So,
I mean, that's the ultimate price.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I think about thirty seconds left. I know, we knew
you could use a lot more time to have this part.
But this you blend in your own families, immigration from
the Soviet Union to hear tell how that kind of
influenced how you saw what went on.
Speaker 12 (49:13):
Well, I think my parents instilled in me like critical
thinking and independence, and also I knew what a totalitarian
regime was like. And when I could no longer freely
speak or share news sources or really just discussed, you know,
our kids well being, even at the playground at school,
I knew we were in trouble.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, well, you've done a great job reminding us the
trouble we got into and now are getting us outside
of and Talia. What a great honor. Everybody go check
out this film on Exit. It's going to be a
rock star. All right, folks, That's all we got for tonight.
We'll be back tomorrow with more programming. Until then, you
know we're gonna do. We're gonna hind off the Batonda.
My good friend Grean stinch Fellow, thank you for the
next hour with all the big news we'll be back
(49:53):
tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Thank you.
Good dating, America. Welcome to the Monday edition, a very
busy Monday edition of Justin Who's No Noise. I'm your host,
John Solomon, reporting to you is always from the nation's capital,
where today peace was breaking out, or at least a
plan to break out police in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A man who is going to bring us up the
speed on that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
In addition, we got word today that the meeting between
congressional leaders and President Trump went badly, which means tomorrow
night the government will begin shutting down. Vice President jd
Vance confirming that while that shutdown occurs, keep an eye
in the Trump White House. I think they're going to
shrink the size of government in ways you never imagine.
We're going to be chronicling that in the next couple
of days over at justin whus dot com. That's some
(00:59):
of the big new Who is a man who's going
to bring up to speed on the historic deal. But
I want to turn to something that we broke in
the last seventy two hours. It began Thursday night with
a story on the number of FBI agents who went
to the Capitol on January six, two hundred and seventy
four of them and then came out and said they
witnessed a politically biased FBI that the J six defendants
(01:20):
were treated substantially different than those who committed crimes during
the BLM riots of twenty twenty. Today, we were able
to provide to the American public two new FBI documents
that Cash Bttel has found. One of them is the
lab report on the two J six pipe bombs. Remember
the pipe bombs found at the DNC and the R
and C, the two major political party headquarters. There's a
(01:41):
really interesting question that those reports raised, which is how
do bombs that had a one hour timer sit for
sixteen hours without going off. FBI lab report couldn't answer that,
though it did confirm that there were one hour timers
on sixteen.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Sixteen hour old bombs. No one can explain what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But the mystery got even more severe when we got
the main witness interview with the woman who the FBI interviewed,
who says she found the Republican National Committee bomb and
she says the story that the FBI is telling that
the bombs are there for sixteen hours can't be true
because she walked by the Republican National Committee bomb site
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an hour before she found the bomb and there was
no bomb there. Then it suddenly showed up when she
came back on her laundry rum. She's adamant about it.
And also she said at the time she saw the bomb,
it still had twenty minutes on its time or something
that the FBI lab doesn't acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
What does that mean.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We got a lot more questions and we got answers,
But at least now under Cash Mattel, the FBI is
providing Congress in the American public evidence long denied the
American Republican With that, and then the second block of
the show, the chairman of the newly formed House Judiciary
J six Subcommittee, Barrylaudomick, is going to be here. We're
going to ask him a lot of questions about these documents.
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But first let me turn over to my amazing Coast amanahead,
who is there today, as Benjamin Detnaw the President. A
pretty dramatic day, Amanda including apparently Netnyao apologized to the
Katari he's personally about the attack on their soil. It
sounds like the parties are coming together in release.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, we have a great guest coming up later in
the hour.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Who I want to ask specifically about that phone call
because obviously the deal was a huge, a huge deal,
but you know what happened before it In that phone call,
I think set the stage four. But yes, I was
at the White House while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah,
who was meeting with President Trump today and obviously that
big news came out of the meeting as the President
is working on ending the conflict between Hamas and Israel
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and Gaza, something he talked about frequently on the campaign trail. First,
the President outlined the plan that he has put forward
to finally end that war, a plan that he announced Netanyah,
who agreed to, and briefly discussed the history of how
this whole situation has gotten to this point trigger warning
its biblical watches.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Let us not forget how we got here. Hamas was
elected by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking
they would live in peace. Remember that long time ago
they withdrew. They said, you take it, this is our
contribution to peace. But that didn't work out. That didn't
work out. It was the opposite of peace. But the
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plan that we put forward today is focused on ending
the war immediately getting all of our hostages back, getting
everything back.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
There were twenty points in that deal, a lot of
which President Trump did not even have time to discuss
today because there were so many meaningful ideas in this plan.
But he also announced that he had broke her to
historic trilateral coordination plan with the United States, Israel and
cutter as we reference before, check it out.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
A short time ago, we had a historic phone call
in the Oval Office with Prime Minister Tani, who's really
a great person, and so we had a great talk.
We agreed to launch a formal trilateral mechanism between Israel,
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Quitar and the United States to begin a dialogue to
enhance mutual security, correct misperceptions, and avoid future misgivings and John.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
One of the more lighthearted moments today came with President
Trump reintroducing a pronunciation of the Abraham Accords, and he
explained his reasoning behind it that you know, NETANYAHUU and
a lot of other people, especially in their Hebrew dialects,
what they call it. But I even caught a certain
CNN commentator who hosts a nighttime show on cn Kenvil Hollins,
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smiling a little when everyone was laughing at President Trump
as he was making funny comments about it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So it's a big day for the world if this
carries out, and there's some developments tonight as we dote
first getting Israel and Cutter, who have been at odds
for a long time together. Cutter is the sort of
country that can make things happen. They got one of
our hostages back this weekend. But tonight the power Indian
government embraced this plan. The government obviously reports to Hamas,
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which is a political arm, but the government or the bureaucracy,
that is a really good sign that what's happening here
may be a historic path towards peace. A lot of
roadblocks ahead, but pretty historic. Dam I'm glad you were there.
You had great coverage all day. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Speaking of great I love having this first guest on.
I say he is a sage of sanity in a
budget see of insanity in Washington. He's a great congressman
from the state of Wisconsin, and now he's had in
the ring for a governor Wisconsin. I think he's going
to do very well. Congressman Tom Tiffany, sir, good to
have you on the show.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Good afternoon, Amanda, John good to join you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I want to start with the impending sand clock, which
is winding down tomorrow night at midnight. It sounds like,
according to Vice President J. D Vance, the government will
shut down. In years past, the Democrats have tried to
make this a Republican shutdown, but this feels like a
Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
To me, tell me what you think.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Yeah, we would really rather not see the government shut down.
The House of Representatives did its work a couple of
weeks ago to pass the continuing resolution give us time
to be able to get the appropriations process done over
the next seven weeks, and Chuck Schumer said, no, I'm
not going to go that route.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
And it's really unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
And I am so glad that our leadership and the
White House has set no to the extortionist demands that
are being put out there. I mean, think about it.
They want to give free health care to illegal aliens.
That's part of the deal that they want. They want
to get rid of the fifty billion dollars we put
in the Working Families Bill for rural hospitals that really
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affects districts.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Like mine in rural America.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
So the Democrats are on the wrong side of this,
and I really don't know what they're thinking. I actually
think I'm more optimistic. I think there's going to be
a deal by October first, because I think there's going
to be some sane Democrats in the Senate that are
going to say, hold it, we do not want.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To own this right Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, in congressman, I mean, Chuck Schumer's kind of stuck
between Iraq and a hard place because if there is
a shutdown, then President Trump has vowed to take that
opportunity to trim down the federal government. So do you
think that that is a good enough reason for him
to accept this deal?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And also, I mean shutting down the government.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Look, we've all got a little bit of Dennis the
Menace anarchy in US, and we want to see what
would happen if we shut down the government. But it
cost the American people when it shuts down, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It does.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
And you know, the back pay gets done and all
the rest, and I mean, it just is expensive doing that.
The thing that I'm heartened by is that what I'm
hearing from the White House, and I don't know if
you're hearing this. But for example, people's social Security and
Medicare checks, that is a priority. The White House and
President Trump will make sure people get those.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Our military, our troops.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
They're going to get paid because they can prioritize those
things that are essential.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
This White House knows what is essential.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
And this brinksmanship by Senator Schumer, I just don't regardless
of what he does, he is in a real box.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And this is not one the Democrats are going to
be able to call a Republican shut down. Not what
after all the work at the House, the White House,
and the Senate have done. So I want to turn
to what also happened today, President Trump putting out a
twenty point plan to achieve peace in the long war
torn area of Gaza. It's been in the war since
Hamasa's horrific atrocities on October seventh. It seems like we
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may be on the custom of a deal and getting
cut or involved, getting large numbers of other Arab neighbors involved.
Seems like we're getting a whole regional investment in it.
Tell us what you think about it.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
So you guys go back a few administrations. Have we
ever seen a president that has the respect of both
the Arab people and the Jewish people like President Trump.
Think about when President Trump went to the Arabic countries
very early on in his second term here is you
know what, six seven months ago something like that. He
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was treated with great respect, and he treated them with
great respect.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
It's the same with Israel and the Jewish people.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
It is just amazing that this man, President Trump has
the respect of both parties.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
But that's why it's getting done. And I think the
big question now.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
If they're able to complete this is will Iran be
a good actor? You know it's they don't have a
good history of being a good actor. They've been the
chief destabilizing force in the Middleast over the last decade
or so. So hopefully Iran can be kept to heal
and maybe we can have peace break out in the
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Middle East and have those countries prosper because they have
so much wealth over there that they could just make
great countries that are just a beautiful place on this earth.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Absolutely doubt, sir. I want to turn to midterms.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Obviously, twenty twenty four, Wisconsin was a swing state and
it went for President Trump. With respect to your own race,
and congratulations, by the way, on that announcement. How are
you feeling the tea leaves are looking in the state
of Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
So you know, Wisconsin's a great state with wonderful people,
but it's state leadership is lacking at this point. I mean,
the next governor is going to be left with a
significant deficit. Our energy costs are among the highest in
the Midwest. They used to not be that way. And
by the way, this governor is converting thousands of acres
of some of the most beautiful farmland in America into
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the eye sores of wind and solar facilities. And we
are now in the bottom ten states for creating.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Jobs as well as.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
For entrepreneurs to be able to build new facilities to
carry out their dreams in our state. And all those
things are headed in the wrong direction in Wisconsin. And
we have the opportunity to change that in twenty twenty six,
good people of the state of Wisconsin. We're going to
give them a clear choice here. Do you want prosperity
like we're seeing with so many other states, or do
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you want to be amongst the woke and broke like
our neighbors in Minnesota and Illinois.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, they're rolling up a lot in those blue states,
aren't they. I want to turn to the border because
that was one of President Trump's big promises. It changed
so rapidly, and now we're beginning to see a mass exits.
I think about two million illegal aliens already out of
the country in the first eight months. How much does
that play in Wisconsin. And do the good and wise
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residents in Wisconsin real realize how much progress has been
made in a short period of time.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
For a lot of people that do for people that read,
you know, the liberal media, you know, they're not going
to realize what success has been and that there are
really still great concerns. And yet, I mean, Dane County
continues to Madison continues to be a sanctuary county. And
we just had two young people a couple of months
ago that were killed by a second offense illegal alien
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drug drunk driver that should have been referred by Dane
County Sheriff's Department to Ice and had that person removed. Instead,
we have two innocent people that are dead. Those things
continue to happen here in the state of Wisconsin, and
we're really trying to call attention to that that we
cannot have a sanctuary state in Wisconsin. Let's make sure
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those people that are coming into our country are coming
in legally, and because we favored legal immigration, that's the
way it should be done. But I think a lot
of people in Wisconsin are understanding that it is better.
And Plus the amount of fentinel coming into our state
has come down, the number one killer of young people,
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and so there's progress being made.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A lot of people in Wisconsin realize that's the case.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That's great, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
There are other types of sanctuaries as well. Restrooms for
women and girls, locker rooms for women and girls should.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be safe spaces for them.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But I read an awful story about a young gal
who's an athlete in Wisconsin and she and her PE class,
her female pe class, were forced to stand there while
a young male student just ogled them. I mean, this
kid was definitely not any type of gender questioning or
transitioning or anything like that. He was just a boy,
a young boy. And I thought of you because I
know you're a girl, dad, And I'm wondering if this
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is an issue in Wisconsin to the degree that it is,
because I hear about it all around the Beltway. I
hear about it in Virginia. Obviously, that horrific case in
Lowden County. Is that an issue for midterms in Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Still?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
It is?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
It was in the November election, and we have a
go winner that stands with boys being able to go
in girls' bathrooms. And by the way, the Democrats are
going to have a knockdown, drag out primary. It'll be
really interesting to see where all them stand as they
race to the left.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
But I can make just one thing clear.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
If I'm elected as the governor of the state of Wisconsin,
girls will be going in girls' bathrooms, not boys.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's pretty clear. SOMPOL should be as it always is
with you, sir. You always have such great principles and
always stick to them. It's great to have you on today, Congressman, thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
For joining us.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Great to join you, Johnny.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, appreciate you always. Thank you so much. All Right,
folks have the break.
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Or the Welcome back to America.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I can say this, honestly, one of the most consequential
investigators in all of the United States House of Representatives.
His work on the House Administration Jay six sub committee
last two years redefined what we learned about January sixth,
what truth we were denied. And now he's the chairman
of a new subcommittee House Judiciary where we're beginning to
dive into what the law enforcement did and didn't do
on January sixth. Joining us right now from the Great
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State of Georgia, Congressman Very Loudham, a Congressman. Good to
have you on the show.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
John, It's always good to be with you and Amanda.
I mean, you guys are out there getting the truth
to the American people.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, we're grateful and we couldn't do it without you
and all the hard work you've done. You fought for
this committee. We have this story this morning, documents that
you and Jim Jordan have been able to get from
the new Director, Cash Mattel, And obviously they raised a
lot more questions.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
For me than they answered.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You've got an FBI lab that can't explain how bombs
are sitting for sixteen hours but only had a one hour.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Timer didn't explode.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And then you have a woman who says, wait a second,
that's sixteen hours a bomb. Thing doesn't work for me
because I walked by the location, it wasn't there. I
came back from laundry it was. It was probably only
there for an hour. Tell us what you make of
this new evidence.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well, one thing, John, is if we had an FBI
that was actually helping us last Congress, we'd be a
whole lot further down the road now. But I want
to reemphasize these are documents that we're getting from this FBI,
not the previous FBI. They are being forthcoming because they
want to get to the bottom of these things just
as much as we do. And yeah, we were able
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to get a LAMB report of the pipe bombs, which
is something that's been a mystery to all of us,
always trying to figure out all the different nuances that
just did not make sense. I mean, there were so
many factors of these bombs. How could a highly trained
Secret Service bomb sniffing canine walk by these devices without
hitting on them? I mean law enforcement just letting people
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walk by and so a lot of times we were
just speculating what were these devices. And I remember another
reporter asking me one time. He said, well, we understand
there were egg timers on there, and how do you
place an egg timer that only goes for an hour
the night before without it exploding? And so I started
talking to some former explosive ordinance disposal specialists that I know,
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and one of the things that's interesting is they said
a lot of times an egg timer will not be
used as the primary fuse, but a secondary. In other words,
use an electronic timer with a particular basically a digital
clock that has a specific time for it to go off,
and you use the egg timer as the override. In
other words, you set the regular timer and then you
connect the wires to the egg timer for sixty minutes.
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Gives you plenty of time to get out of the way.
When I saw that made some sense to me, right,
But when I saw the lab report, there was no
electronic timer. It was only this sixty minute egg timer
that was wired to cause these bombs to explode. So
there is no way if they were placed the night
before on January fifth, which is a story we've been
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told they were not set.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
The timers weren't set.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Till later the next day, so whoever placed them then
had to come back. Okay, I'm not buying the story
anymore that they were there on the fifth. I believe
that they were put out on the sixth. At this point,
this is the theory that we're going on, especially since
the lady that found them said there were still twenty
minutes left on the timer when they were placed there.
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That's one of the key things, as you brought up.
The other thing is were there enough? Was there enough
explosives in the devices to actually cause a massive disposed explosion.
That's one of the things we're looking at in these reports,
which kind of leads us to believe maybe there wasn't,
but there definitely was explosives. Now follow me on this
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series of logic here, When would you build a bomb
that's not designed to go off, but every element of
it is to make you think it will, or make
a drug bomb sniffing dog think that it is a
live bomb that's a training exercise. So that also opens
the door to that was this possibly part of a
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training exercise or were they put there just to be
a diversion to draw resources away from the capital. So
there's several scenarios that we're looking at with both of
these devices. Some of it didn't were there people around
who knew that these were inert they were not active.
There's nothing I've seen in the FBI report that says
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that they could have exploded. They just say that there
were traces of explosives in there. So there's more questions,
but that's a good thing that we actually have more
evidence to have more questions, to open the door to
do more investigation to get to the truth.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Definitely, mister Chairman.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
As with any big city, but especially our nation's capital,
there are very few square inches of this city that
are not covered with cameras. And I know that this
has been a huge source of question and concern during
this because the cameras, from what I remember, they tilt
and pan, so there really should have been complete coverage
of what happened. What's the status of that footage.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Well, we do have the Capitol police footage from the
cameras around there, they really don't show the locations of
where the bombs were placed, as well as the cameras
that were on the d Triple C and the Republican
are the Republican Club. That's that where the first bomb
was placed, and so there's plenty of coverage around there.
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As we started in this committee, one of the first
things I want to do is we got all access
back to all the cameras again. We're going to scouring
all the cameras like we did before, knowing that the
Capitol Police cameras, the ones that were there, may not
have been panned in the right place at the right time,
but either way, they weren't in the position to really
get a good shot of where those bombs were placed.
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But the d tripleC did and the Republican Club did,
so we I'm now under this new idea everybody focused
on January fifth. I want to look at who maybe
came by within the hour of when the bombs were
were discovered, or anytime that morning on January sixth. The
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problem is, no one has any video footage of January sixth. Now,
I can understand that the Republican Club and the Democratic
Club their security cameras overright, but would not the FBI
or Metropolitan Police Secret Service. Capitol Police have asked for
the video footage of January sixth, and I'm finding out
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that the FBI never did ask for January sixth video footage.
They only asked for January fifth because someone in a
law enforcement agency told them, oh, we know, we know
what you need to look for. You need to look
at January fifth because this person in the hoodie, that's
who you're looking for. I think that's pretty bad as
poor investigative duties. I would want to have all the
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footage before and after to see who was there. But
apparently no one preserved any of the footage for January
six which is another element for us to look into.
Why not?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Wow, all right, I want to go to one other
thing that's missing, the geospatial phone records for who was
around the area of the bomb. So your team and
you have dug up something really interesting. The woman that
finds the RNC bomb and she seems very cooper or
she was on a laundry run, right, But she works
for a company, or she works for the program first Net,
which is the first responder's telephone network. She was at
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the Commerce department at the time, who handled the phone
records requests that got corrupted and now we don't have
any data left.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Well, it's actually the company she worked for, which is
an interesting coincidence there, all right, So we have a
situation where the FBI is going out looking for geofens data.
So they send out I think it was on it
was within a few days of January sixth, they send
out a preservation letter to all the major carriers carriers
all this data. Basically, what a preservation letter does, it says,
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we're investigating something we know, We've got to get the
lawyers to go through the law and provide you with
the documents or subpoenas whatever you need. In the meantime,
while we're getting all the lawyers do their work, do
not get rid of this data. That's what a preservation
letter does. And it actually specified with latitude and longitude
these areas that we're investigating. And so that letter was
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sent and so we presume that the FBI got some
generalized geofense data, but then they wanted more specific data
near the pipe bomb area. So when they went to
AT and T, they were sent for some reason to
First Net, which is it's actually an organization that was
set up via Congress after nine to eleven that gives
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first responders proprity cell phone service and data. So if
there's something.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Big going on.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
You and I may not be able to get a
phone call through, but the first responders can because they
preempt everyone else's phone calls. So first date, our first
net handles that first responder network their phones for some reason.
AT and T says, first nets, who you need to
go to to get this level of data? First net
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goes in to download that data, claims that and this
is something else we're looking into. They get the They
start on January the eleventh, claiming that data is going
to be overwritten. Okay, they're claiming the data is going
to be overwritten at midnight that night, even though they
had already received a preservation letter. So they have to
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hurry up and over They end up overloading the server,
and the server corrupted all that data. This is what
I'm having several issues of that. Formerly working in information technology,
also working with high sensitive data within the military, that
stuff you generally hang on to. We talked to one
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carrier said, look, we still have all the data from
the Oklahoma City bombing. That's the kind of data we
hang on to. Why after receiving a preservation letter and
you know, why would that level of data be automatically deleted?
Anyhow in that shorter period of time. These are questions
I have. I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just saying these
are legitimate questions we need to be asking. What is
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the relationship here? Is the person who found the pipe
bomb works for the company that corrupted the data, and
then they tell the FBI the data wasn't corrupted. Then
they tell the data was corrupted. So this is a
mess that we've got to unravel.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And the good thing we know is you're going to
be asking the right question because you have for the
last three years. That's how we got so much of
the evidence we already now have, mister.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Chairman, a great honor to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We're going to be watching this very closey, a lot
more work ahead of us, but thank you for joining
us tonight.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Well, thank you, John. Let me just say, with the
Democrats on the this is something everybody ought to want
to get to the bottom up because Republican Democrat lives
suppose we at risk that day, That's right, and so
we should be working together on this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Even the Vice President Alex Yeah, Kamala Harris went by
by the bomb. That's such an important thing, mister chairman,
Thank you has always great honor. All Right, folks, quick
commercial bank. When we come back. More on the looming
government shutdown. If it's going to happen, we'll have that
right after this quick break. All right, Folks, all across
(28:31):
this country they're asking the big question tonight, will we
or won't we shut down the government? Well know, tomorrow
night at midnight. It does look like we're headed that way.
Jadie Vance said so. Just a short while ago here
Tom Tivity saying, well, maybe some Democrats will come out
of the send and save it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We'll have to wait and see it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But joining us now, someone who knows everything about the
way the government spends some money, as the director of
government affairs at the National Taxpayers Union, Tommy, Hello, Tommy,
good to have you.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Good evening, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All right, give us your vegas odds over under we
shut down tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
I think it's definitely a possibility that the government shuts down,
and I think it's definitely going to happen.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
It's unfortunate, it shouldn't have to happen.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
But Chuck Schumer, he doesn't want to let his Democrats
vote for a continuing resolution.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
It's really disappointing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, it is, But.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Tommy, if it does, there are a lot of people
out there who are salivating so much. I picture a
cartoon hobo watching a pie cool on a windowsill. They
are absolutely salivating over the notion of President Trump slashing
the federal workforce.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Is that the silver lining?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (29:32):
I come at it from two ways. One, I don't
think anybody wins in a government shut down. We pay
bureaucrats to stay home. It's really unfortunate while our troops
work and don't get paid. There's something really off about that.
And I think it just adds to this dysfunction in
Washington that we can't even do the most basic stuff.
But you know, I will say, there is this memo
that Russ Boyd put out a few days ago that
(29:53):
said if the government shuts down, they're going to move
forward with wide scale firings. I don't know if that
is a hundred percent legally, It'll have to work its
way through the courts. But I think it just shows
you that one the Trump administration is serious about trimming
the fat of the federal government. And I think it's
a good conversation to have and we'll see if they
move forward with it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, and Tommy on that point, the Supreme Court has
mostly signed with President Trump every time he's fired someone,
including at independent agencies. It seems like he's on a
role there. Maybe they're banking on that, but in this case,
they would argue that Congress gave them no choice, right,
we can't afford to have these people, so we're just
going to fire them to save money. How do you
think the courts might look at that.
Speaker 10 (30:33):
Yeah, to your point, Look, they've already ruled a few
times that said what the president is doing is within
his constitutional authority to do it. There was a report
out today that potentially one hundred thousand federal workers could
be putting in the resignation letter tomorrow because of all
these federal buyouts and DOGE.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
That's a very good thing.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
It's a lot of people, but ironically enough, it's only
a small percentage of the federal workforce. We have about
ten million people that are employed by the federal government,
so yes, on its base, it's a large number of people,
but it's just a smaller job in the bucket. And
I'll just say one other thing about the possibility of
the government shutdown. Look, this is all on the Democrats.
The House of Representatives, led by Speaker Mike Johnson.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
They did their job.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
They passed a clean continuing resolution to fund the government
at current levels. And Chuck Schumer, he really has to
show that he's fighting back against President Trump. He needs
to show his base that he actually wants to be
a fighter, and unfortunately the American people are going to
be caught in the crossfire as collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I also wonder if that collateral damage is Democrat votes
come next November, because you've got them holding out on
absurdities like transgender care and health care for illegal aliens
and things like that. I understand that Democrat minded voters
are on very different sides of this than a lot
of conservatives and even people down the center, but I
(31:54):
got to think that that's not Those aren't the winning issues,
are they?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No?
Speaker 9 (31:58):
It's not.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
I mean, you just have to get some of their ridiculous,
unreasonable asks. They want the president to overturn the huge
taxpayer savings from his one big, beautiful bill that just
passed what three months ago. There's no way the President's
going to overturn it. And then they also want to
extend these COVID era Obamacare subsidies to plus up tax
(32:20):
credits for wealthy people that receive healthcare. It really is ridiculous,
and I think when you add everything up, it's about
a trillion dollars in new spending just to keep the
government open for another seven weeks.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
And you know, I think the President was exactly right
in his meeting today to have the meeting to talk
through some of these issues. But he's not going to budge,
and he's not going to put long term deficits on
the table in exchange for a short term continuing resolution.
So we hope he continues to hold the line and
help Republicans in Congress do the same.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, this is a historic moment and the consequential one.
If it's executed right, it could really set the Washington
on a different arc. Before we let you go, we'd
be or missed not to ask about this. We get closer.
I've been here in this town thirty five years and
they were warning about Social Security and medicare.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Going bankrupt back then.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But now we're within the decade of it actually beginning
to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Give us some sense.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Is there anyone moving into direction that would create some
solution there or is this really another fiscal cliff coming
up over the horizon.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
You know, it's certainly a fiscal cliff looming out there.
I think there's another five or six years before the
program goes insolved, and it's a real problem.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Not enough people are talking about it.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Senator Cassidy from Louisiana, he's really shown a light on
this issue. He shows a lot of leadership, and we
hope he continues to do that. But again, Congress always
waits to the last minute to do things, whether it's
Social Security fund, the government even the one big beautiful bill.
I really think at some point there's going to have
to be a critical mass and really identify the problem
and fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, it's this generation's job to fix it. We can't
let it go on behind it so real quickly. Do
you guys still keep the Golden Fleece award? Don't you
do a regular award for misspending in America?
Speaker 10 (34:02):
You know, we do an annual rating of every memory
in Congress to see how they voted as our taxpayers,
and we're actually wrapping up last year's vote, so we
should have a new scorecard coming out of the next
several weeks, so I'll have to share the list with you.
A lot of good members that come on your program
that received a pluses.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
We would love to have that that's important to us
week care well.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Well say a pluses because we want to keep them
coming back on our show.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Definitely, we might want to highlight those in a misspending. Yeah,
Tom Maryello, you guys at Nashville Taxpayers for years, all
the time I've been in Washington, you have done such
extraordinary work protecting the American taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Great to have me in the show today. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thank you so much for see you next time you
as well.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Great great conversation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, folks, after the break, we'll take a closer
look at President Trump's meeting with Benjamin the Yaho Today
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Speaker 2 (36:09):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
A Mana told us about it at the beginning of
the show, A twenty point pathway to piece potentially in Gaza,
getting great reviews tonight. Even the Palestinian government tonight saying
they're very excited about what President Trump announced at the
White House today.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Former congresswoman and the co founder of the Abraham Accord's
Caucus on Capitol Hill. She's now a US Israel Education
Association fellow former Congresswoman Kathy mic Morris Rogers, Congresswoman.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Great to have you on the show.
Speaker 11 (36:36):
Thank you very much. It's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's an honor to have you on. All Right, we've
had false starts in the past. I was here covering
the handshake between Aaron Fatt and Clinton a long time ago.
But how big a deal is this and does this
feel like maybe one of the bigger movements towards peace
in the region.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Oh, I think this is definitely historic. So grateful for
the leadership of President Trump, as you, as everyone knows.
We're coming up on two years since the terrible day
on October seventh when Hamas attacked Israel horrifically, and we
need to pass forward. We need this to come to
an end. And today President Trump and Prime Minister Net
(37:12):
and Yahoo speaking on behalf of this twenty point plan
that would ensure that this is de radicalized, a tear
free zone, that hamas and gods that are not going
to be a threat to the neighbors in this region.
We definitely need to see more details on how hearts
and minds are going to be changed in that region.
(37:33):
But Trump has an economic development plan. He has a
plan to move forward, which is desperately needed.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Hangers on, I want to ask you about this perception
that a lot of folks, a lot of folks who
aren't big fans of Prime Minister Net and Yahoo, and
they say, well, he doesn't mean it. He's just saying this.
You know, he loves keeping this conflict going. But I
want to rewind to a few hours before this meeting
took place, where Bebe, Net and Yahoo acknowledged a couple
different strikes and cutter ricks regret for them. That seems
(38:02):
to me like a major move and something that was
probably a little personally humbling for him. That would set
the stage for maybe some some uh to make this deal.
I guess a little bit more substantial did it come
across you like that.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Well, like certainly were Prime Minister netanya who understands how
how desperate the situation is. He understands it Israel is
the only democracy in the Middle East and that they
are surrounded by those that are at times been, you know,
controlled by terrorists. And so I believe that Prime Minister
(38:38):
Netanyah who understands that we must get it right, that
we cannot have Hamas continuing to control Gaza, and that
he has been holding out to make sure that the
deal is going to ultimately protect Israel from Hamas and
other terrorists. What is most encouraging right now is that
Arab nations and other Muslim nations around the world are
(39:00):
looking are speaking out favorably on this twenty point plan.
That is going to be very important as this moves forward.
But we really need to you know, everyone's going to
be waiting to hear what Hamas has to say. Hamas
has to agree to this, and this is the this
is their moment. This is a time when hopefully that
not just Israel in the United States of America, but
(39:22):
other Arab nations and Muslim countries around the world and
others in Europe are saying that this is the path forward.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, pretty historic.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I want to talk about two players in the Middle East,
one who's an ally mostly of the United States, one
that's very much not an ally, Cutter and Iran.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
How important are they referee for us?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
The roles each could play in either shepherding or thwarting this.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
Well, they're both very important. President Trump in his first term,
you know, institute of the Abraham Accords, those nations, and
that agreement was historic. President Trump understand stands the dynamics
in in the Middle East. He understands what is going
to take to get Cutter, to get Iran, and he
(40:07):
was very aggressive with Iran earlier in this year, and
so he knows the leadership. He put pressure on them.
They know that he is serious and and I'm hopeful
that they will they will see this as an historic
agreement that it is and come on board and say
this is the path forward, while also recognizing that Israel
(40:29):
needs to be Israel's sovereignty needs to be recognized in
that region.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Very important.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
I want to ask you about the important work that
you did on the Abraham Accords Caucus, because I would
imagine whether you write it down or you have it
in your head, you've got a list of nations that
you want to see joining that as well.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Who do you anticipate could be coming down the pike.
Speaker 11 (40:48):
Well, certainly there's been a lot of eyes on Saudi
Arabia that that's been one of the focuses. But it's
been so encouraging to not just see the Abraham Accords
come into fruition, see the government to government to government
relationship that was built, but to see more tourism, more
(41:08):
economic activity. We want to keep building upon that foundation.
I really believe that not just government to government, but
getting the people to people, the economic relationship more solidified,
so that people's everyday people see the positive impact of
having this relationship in the Middle East, that it ultimately
(41:29):
is going to be the path that brings peace and
security to all in that region.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, I think President Trump said, say maybe even a
little prosperity for some of those nations, which would be great.
Before we let you go, Congresswoman, you talked about probably
the greatest challenge in this plan, which is, even if
all the parties agree, changing hearts and minds from a
long conflicted stand stance in the Middle East is a
trough one, how do we start that process?
Speaker 11 (41:56):
Well on the one of the steps that needs to
be taken is an education in the curriculum. And I
know that the Trump administration is already working with organizations
to ensure that the kids are not being radicalized when
they're still in school, that the curriculum is such that
the curriculum needs to be addressed as a part of
(42:16):
changing hearts and minds.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Does that education here in the United States player role
on that as well?
Speaker 11 (42:22):
Well? Absolutely? In the United States. How the United States,
what's going on on our college campuses as well as
in r K twelve system recognizing Israel as a democratic
nation as well as the importance of respecting people, basic
(42:44):
respect for humankind.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, what a good notion. We need to get that
instead the end in our schools.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Congressman, and I know a lot of people who miss
you on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
You're wake was large there, but it issured great to
have you on and I know you're working hard on
this piece plan. Great to have you join us tonight.
Speaker 11 (43:00):
It's great to be with you. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
All Right, folks are going to take kriok and brush
will break. There's a new documentary out about the real
story behind America's COVID school closures.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh, I want to watch this one. We're going to
get you that right after these messages.
Speaker 12 (43:24):
This is the story of the families who fought.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
To uncover the truth.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
California Teachers Association, the Teachers Union was doing opposition research
on parents.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Really high level of coordination fifteen Days.
Speaker 12 (43:38):
I don't have a direct number to director will Lindspeed
do you, yes?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I have director Willimsky's director of great Yes.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
We have to use basically in the name of equity,
keep everything shut down, especially to school.
Speaker 12 (43:51):
Is that the virus keeping the schools closed?
Speaker 9 (43:53):
Or were there special interest?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
This was the biggest smash and grabs.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Stop the leading more money, we need trullion.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
That's a sick.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Society, well, folks, which you just saw as part of
the trailer from the new documentary fifteen Days, a real
story of America's pandemic school closures, which you can watch
on ex for free right now, joining us is the
director of that film. I tell you, Mark of Ar mrcivar.
I said, that's right, okay, Natalia, good to have you
on the show.
Speaker 12 (44:18):
Thanks, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
It is great honor to have you on.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
This is a fantastic moment I think in history to
ear this where for a long time we weren't allowed
to have this conversation, and when we were we weren't
giving any of the facts. Now we're getting the facts
and the freedom to debate it. Tell us what gave
you the inspiration to do this.
Speaker 12 (44:36):
I was an open school's parent. I saw the kids
suffering when the schools closed. I thought they'd open, you know,
next month, you know, in a month, in two months
and three months, but they really didn't open. And when
they did reopen, they were terribly restrictive, even for the
youngest kids who had to mask and distance. My kids
used to eat outside on the cold concrete in the
(44:58):
middle of winter. And so I want to to understand
why who did this? Because the kids were not being
kept safe and we certainly weren't putting them first.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, that's for sure, Natalia.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
I know John would agree that one of the best
ways to pick a part a conspiracy as a journalist
is to ask the question who benefits and why? You know,
why do they benefit? Who benefited from closing schools?
Speaker 12 (45:22):
Well, there are many organizations that benefited. I think President
Trump is really kind of cleaning the house and all
of the USA defunding and the NGOs on the extreme left.
I mean, I think indirectly many of them benefited, but
directly the teachers' unions. We ended up as a federal
(45:42):
government paying one hundred and eighty nine point five billion
dollars to reopen the schools. This was money that Randy Weingarten,
Becky Pringle, the heads of the two largest teachers unions
in the country, were extorting from the federal government, first
from President Trump in the first administration, and then afterwards
(46:03):
they you know, they got a check from President Biden.
What Randy Weingarten was originally asking for, and this is
actually in our film. Was they needed? She said they
needed one trillion dollars and on top of that another
one hundred billion because of the costs of reopening schools.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Wow, talk about taking advantage of a situation. And I
think somewhere in that trailer I heard this word, and
I've heard it said many times that some on the
left took COVID to be a gift to really launch
forward their sort of globalist, big government picture. Did you
find some of that in your research that they viewed COVID,
which we all viewed as a whore, as a gift
(46:44):
for achieving maybe of their political ends.
Speaker 12 (46:47):
Well, I mean they really, they said it themselves. We
just weren't listening. It was March twenty twenty. We were
sanitizing our groceries. I threatened my husband, who was just
about to turn fifty, you know, I said, do not.
Speaker 9 (46:58):
Go outside, because you're going to die.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
You know.
Speaker 12 (47:01):
I was one of the first people who was wearing
a mask. I was so cautious on the New York
City streets. And in the meanwhile, while we weren't looking,
and while we were told to fear, be scared, the
virus is dangerous to you.
Speaker 9 (47:14):
We had Jane.
Speaker 12 (47:15):
Fonda as a ring leader with Randy Winngarten and the
heads of all of these NGOs, the Green Peace NGOs,
all of these environmental and social justice movements, saying this
is an incredible opportunity. We can't squander it, don't. Jane
Fonda said, we don't have the time, where the resources
to do these crises separately.
Speaker 9 (47:35):
We have to use them together. So yeah, it was happening.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I want to ask you about what age demographics suffered
the most because obviously, in your firmative years and when
you're in elementary school, you're trying to pick up on
social cues, you're just trying to learn the basics of communication.
In middle school, you're going through the trauma of being
a teenager in social media. In high school, we had
multiple classes of high school seniors and college seniors who
never got to walk in their graduation. When it comes
(48:02):
to breaking down these different groups of children, who do
you think suffered the most?
Speaker 12 (48:08):
I honestly, I think everybody suffered, and that was the
goal of creating this film. I think I show in
the film that there is no demographic amongst children who
didn't suffer. I interviewed children from a lower socioeconomic demographic,
the younger children, older children, and also very wealthy families
who all said their children were suffering. The film is
(48:31):
dedicated to Noah Sylvester, who was a Brooklyn Tech High
School student here in New York City. His mother was
a plaintiff on my open schools case against Mayor Deblasio
in New York City. Unfortunately, despite everything she did, and
she had resources, she had education, She's a psychiatrist. Noah
(48:52):
took his life at age twenty one this past May. So,
I mean, that's the ultimate price.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I think about thirty seconds left. I know, we knew
you could use a lot more time to have this part.
But this you blend in your own families, immigration from
the Soviet Union to hear tell how that kind of
influenced how you saw what went on.
Speaker 12 (49:13):
Well, I think my parents instilled in me like critical
thinking and independence, and also I knew what a totalitarian
regime was like. And when I could no longer freely
speak or share news sources or really just discussed, you know,
our kids well being, even at the playground at school,
I knew we were in trouble.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, well, you've done a great job reminding us the
trouble we got into and now are getting us outside
of and Talia. What a great honor. Everybody go check
out this film on Exit. It's going to be a
rock star. All right, folks, That's all we got for tonight.
We'll be back tomorrow with more programming. Until then, you
know we're gonna do. We're gonna hind off the Batonda.
My good friend Grean stinch Fellow, thank you for the
next hour with all the big news we'll be back
(49:53):
tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Thank you.
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