May 1, 2025 • 47 mins
SEGMENT 1: MIKE WALTZ OUT AS NAT SEC ADVISOR, NOMINATED AS U.N. AMBASSADOR
SEGMENT 2: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S YOUNG PERSON APPEAL
SEGMENT 3: TX JUDGE REBUKES TRUMP'S USE OF ALIEN ENEMIES ACT
SEGMENT 4: MAHER BACKTRACKS TRUMP PRAISE
SEGMENT 5: ILHAN OMAR REFUSES QUESTION, CURSES OUT REPORTER
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, welcome to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I am Bo Davidson filling in for Grants, so thank
you so much for watching. There's a big night on
tap in Alabama as President Donald Trump delivers the commencement
speech at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa at approximately
eight eastern seventh Central. So we will be keeping an
eye on Air Force one as the President touches down
in Tuscaloosa. Alabama, of course, is about as red of
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a state as you can get, and he's certainly loved.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
There by all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We will keep you updated as we get closer to
the top of the next hour. And in some big
news earlier today that broke National Security Advisor Mike Waltz
is out along with his deputy Alex Wong in their
respective positions. This comes just after the big one hundred
day mark for the President and a meeting with his cabinet.
Now you'll recall that Mike Waltz was at the center
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of what became known as Signal Gate, which was a
private communications thread on the messaging app Signal, which conferred
some very sensitive information about military operations against the Houthis,
a terrorist group. Waltz admitted fault for this, saying that
he did build the group and said it was embarrassing
as the threat included the editor in chief of The Atlantic,
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Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, Trump posted on True Social at about
two fifteen pm Eastern today that he is nominating Mike
Waltz to be Ambassador to the United Nations, a position
that was vacant when Elie Stefanic was recalled to come
back home to help out in some of the.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Elections in the interim.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Trump says that Marco Rubio will serve as National Security
Advisor while also balancing his work as Secretary of State. So, guys,
this is some very interesting news with Waltz being ousted
as National Security Advisor but being transitioned perhaps to the
United Nations. Is that really a firing then, or is
it a transition or is it a demotion? Perhaps he'd
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have to have a simple majority in the Senate to
get confirmed for.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This position at the UN.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
My guest to speak about this breaking news is Jonathan Gilliam.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
He's a career.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Public servant with over twenty years of service as a
Navy seal, FBI Special Agent, Federal Air Marshall police officer,
and author of sheep no more the art of awareness
and attack Survival. Thank you so much for joining me tonight, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Good to be with you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well Jonathan, first of all, did you see this ouster coming?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I didn't see it coming in this way. It's interesting
how long it took. But I'll tell you you look,
Mike Walls is cut from the same cloth that I
was cut from as a seal. He was Special Forces,
and I think he took ownership pretty quickly, saying that
all the blame laid with him. And I think it
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took this long because they had to look into the
reality of what it was. And just like in the military,
he got removed from his position regardless of what they say.
I don't think if that hadn't have happened, he would
probably still be in that position. But typical of government,
I guess it doesn't matter who's in office that people
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get promoted up. They get promoted either sideways or up.
They never just get fired when they're in an executive
leadership position.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's very rare.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And so I hope Mike does really good work over there,
and I hope that I just hope that he carries
on with the potential of a leader that he has
and that we have no more of these issues. I mean,
the reality is none of those people should have been
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on that civilian app talking about the things that they
were talking about. I don't care how they want.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
To spin it. That just should not be the case.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So on one side, I'm really glad that President Trump
took action and showed that if you do something to
this extent in my administration, you will be removed.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But on the other hand, it.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Pains me inside when I see people do something that
they just get promoted or move sideways. So I'm torn
about this in several different ways.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Jonathan, I'll be honest with you. I am too.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, we Waltz admitted that he was responsible for
putting that group chat together, and I know that. You know,
sometimes mistakes can be made. A mistake is a mistake.
But is this one that you would say in your
view that absolutely merits the move that Trump has made.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I do well, I think the firing it merits that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I don't know what the decision making process was to
promote him to that position. Maybe it's perhaps that he
trusts him even though and he thinks that Mike made
a mistake, but he still trusts him. But I'll tell
you this, I've been going scorched on Pete Hexath because
I don't think Pete is that the problems Pete has
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is a leftist media issue. I think the leftist media
takes advantage of the things that Pete Hexath does, and
that's why he's talked about so much in the mainstream media.
He didn't just do this issue with Signal, where he
was the main guy putting out things that you can
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say it was or wasn't war plans, but was definitely
given specific information about what aircraft and ammunitions and who
was being hit. But he then he did it again.
He did it again with his wife and some other individuals.
It may or may have not been authorized to hear
this information. I don't agree with that. I don't agree
with the way he and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi
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and Christy nom have been flying all over the place
taking selfies and making speeches that in agencies that right
now are riddled with middle management and some upper management
that is ripe with leftists and people who have caused
all these problems. It wasn't, for instance, with DHS, it
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wasn't just my orcus, it was these other executives that
exist within the DHS that allowed the border to turn
into the poorest environment that it is.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Same thing with the FBI. It's a disaster.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yet Cash betail goes and posts a picture of him
running with new cadets that display exactly what DEI gets,
you fat out of shape and all the women pushed
to the front of the picture running with him, so
that everybody realizes that the FBI is hiring women. That's DEI.
So Cash hasn't changed anything that I can see. He's
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moved people to the left or right or up or down,
fired a few here and there, but no restructuring, no
shutting down operations and figuring out, you know, who these
leftists are, because that is the problem with all of this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it's interesting. It's interesting you mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
About Pete Hegseeth because I was going to say, you know,
I'd ask for some conjecture here, but you know, does
Waltz have some sort of blackmail on Hegseth to where
Trump could just outright fire him, you know, why keep
him in the cabinet. But it sounds to me like
you're saying that Pete Hegseth is as culpable, if not
more than Mike Walls. So why is Mike Walts the
fall guy? If arguably Pete Hegseth has done.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Worse, I think it's because Mike Walls set that up.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He set that signal group up.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And when you look at and when you try to
weigh these things out, having the guy from the Atlantic
on there, who is an avid Trump hater and who
is an avid leftist and a part of this leftist
ideological criminal enterprise, I think that Mike Walls took to
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blame and he suffered the consequence.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Though, in my mind, in my investig not just my mind,
but my investigation native analysis, I think Pete Hexath and
Cash Pattel are very dangerous for this President's strategy and
for what he's trying to do for this nation and
save this nation. I think those two individuals in particular
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are ones that are very disruptive to President carrying out
those things, whether it's the signal issue with Pete Hexath
or Pete Hexath coming out yesterday after President Trump had
made an announcement to Iran, which that's his job Pete
Hexath comes out with his own ex post saying that
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he is threatening that putting Iran on notice is though
he's the president.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So these are things that are.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Being repeated over and over again, and I think eventually
this could bite the president and his agenda worse than
anything Walltz did.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, and it's interesting how Pete Hegseith kind of discredited
the outlet when the White House was already saying yeah,
we admit that this happened.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But something I'm thinking about too, Jonathan, is especially with
Mike Walls, he still has to have a simple majority
to be confirmed as ambassador to the UN. So do
you think he'd have the votes? I mean, now that
Republicans have seen this misstep with signal, could Republicans balk
after this embarrassment?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is it possible?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I think they could, But I think he has a
better chance. And if Pete Hexith, for instance, was fired
and then rehired as ambassador. I think that Mike is
respected by a lot of people in Congress and they
see what happened as a complete screw up, but they
don't look at him as they screw up. And I
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think if he gets confirmed that will be the reason
why he got through.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But again, this whole thing, right, we're.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Talking about Mike, and we're talking about Pete, and we're
talking about all these different things every day all day
in media. But the reality is this leftist ideological criminal enterprise.
I came up that term because it stands for the
abbreviation for that or the acronym is lice.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We need to comb.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
That lice out of this nation and out of all
these government agencies because everything we're talking about, with the
exception of these personal mess ups by these agency leaders,
all the issues that they are dealing with come from
the left. And if they don't concentrate on that, then
in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight, or anytime
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that the leftists are able to get a foothold again,
they will go right back and start crushing everything that
this president has done so masterfully in his first hundred days.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now, you have a great point there, Jonathan. Who do
you think is a good replacement for Mike Wallas's National
security advisor? What do you think there's any possibility he
brings back General Flynn or who would you like to
see there?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, look, I think General Flynn and I met
him once and he's a fascinating individual. I think that
General Flynn would have been I don't know what his
relationship is with President Trump, but he would be a
great chief of Staff. I think Mike Flynn would be
great Secretary of Defense. He would be a great in
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Mike Wallas's position. He's just a great guy and when
I met him, he impressed me because he said everything
that I feel is wrong and everything that we should
do that is right, and so I like him. But
I'll tell you a name that nobody obscure, name Scott Ulinger.
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That guy would be perfect in this position where Mike
Waal has stepped down. He is a former naval officer,
CIA chief of Station and one of the most well
read individuals I've ever met in my life, and very intelligent,
and he knows that era you very well. If I
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was President Trump or if I had the opportunity to
speak to him, that is the name that I would float.
I fully trust him, and he's an amazing, amazing individual.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Be a great guest for this show. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
On that note, Jonathan, thank you so much for your
wisdom and your expertise.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
As always, we appreciate you, sir. You got it. And listen,
I've got hair in vy. You have great hair well,
and I got beard envy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I can't grow one like that and I'm just trying,
but I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Thank you, John. We ve each other's hair, just a
different case. Thanks Jonathan. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
In some other news, we all know that Elon Musk
will be gradually stepping back from his role as chief
of the Department of Government Efficiency aka Doche He was
in President Trump's cabinet meeting yesterday with not one but
two hats on.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I love the doublehead.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, thank you, well, miss President.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
You know they say I wear a lot of hats,
see it, that's true.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Even my hat has a hat.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Oh yeah, Elon's hat had a hat.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Joining me now to discuss Elon Musk's role as a
leader is Jim Cantrell, the founder of several entrepreneurial startups,
including Phantom Space, Vector strat Space, and Vintage Exotics Competition Engineering.
He was notably on the founding team of SpaceX and
served as the first VP of business Development.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Welcome to the show, Jim, Hi, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's great to meet you, Jim, take me back to
the early days of SpaceX and describe what the culture
was like.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Yeah, you know, SpaceX in the early days was pretty
much like any other startup. It was pretty unremarkable in
that sense. You know, I think back to those days
with fondness and you know, not really none of us
realize Elon would become what he is today. But you know,
I will tell you what everybody has seen on the
six o'clock news, you know, with Elon and Trump and
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that going on. That's the same Elon we saw twenty
five years ago. You know what what I've said is
I'm waiting for him to call federal employees randomly at
three in the morning, asking them what in the world
they're up to. That was a sort of thing that
happened to us.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, that's that's interesting you say that, because I'd like
if you could to describe Elon's leadership style.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He always seems meek mannered to me.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
He's mild in that regard, but I imagine he has
to have high expectations.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I think he's anything but mild. You know.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
He has that soft, sort of British sounding South African accent,
but don't let that fool you.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The man is ferocious. He's full of energy.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
He leads from the front, sometimes too much, and you know,
his style is definitely to get involved in every major
decision in the company, you know, almost to the point
but not quite a sane he micromanages, but he understands
what's being decided on and gets involved, even down to engineering.
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So it's SpaceX, you know, he got involve in, you
know a lot of the technical meetings. He borrowed my
college textbooks from you know, aerospace engineering on rockets and
propulsion and things like that, and you know, read up
on them. And the guy wouldn't just you know, say
he read them, but he would really truly absorb it.
A very dynamic person, has a lot of vision, very
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intolerant of fools, and works just immense hours, you know,
literally that three o'clock phone call from me was you know,
what are you doing? I said, I'm sleeping. He said,
a lot of work. You need to get here, and
slam goes down the phones.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah you can rest when you're dead.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And that's what they say, right, It sounds like that's
what Elon style is. Well, Jim, what's been your reaction
to the public's resistance to Elon's work at DOGE and
the violence, especially against Tesla. We see these protests, we
see them being lit on fire.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
What's what's been your reaction to that?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
My personal reactions, it is hysteria and hatred directed at Elon.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You know, it's strange for me to have seen.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Him go from you know, the person I knew twenty
five years ago, which relatively unknown to you know, elevated
to a deity status, and now he's considered, you know,
some sort of partner with Satan.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And I think it's affected Elon too.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You know, I watched him in his public persona and
I would say, you know, that's the one we've always known.
But I'll tell you what, the last six to eight weeks,
with all the vitriol that's coming at him, I think
it's affected him. I don't think he expected that. You know,
maybe he got used to this public adoration, but to
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have people attack him so personally he was something I
don't think he ever anticipated, and.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
With such suddenness and viciousness. And they're the.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Same people, you know, that had exalted him to a
deity that have turned around and earned his dealerships to
the ground.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It's really.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
It's a bad indication of where our politics are in
this country today.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, and I have to think that he with little
X on his shoulders as a father, that that's got
to be difficult to go through. And I know he
wants a relationship with his children as well he should.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's got to be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Tough considering all the hats he's obviously wearing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I know that's difficult. It has to w and
you're right, it does.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Look like it's affected him because you go from this genius,
as you described, this visionary into a role where he's
cutting out government waste and fraud. You would think that
the public would laud him, but instead you see them
lambasting him. But I want to know, knowing what you
know about Elon in your time with them, do you
think there's anybody better suited to take on the role
of doge than Elon Musk himself.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, you know, if you.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Go back to two thousand and one when you had
a rocket deal with the Russians that went south, and
then you know, on our way home from Moscow, he
said to me, I think we can build this rocket ourselves.
That was insanity to say that this ragtag group of
people and we were ragtag and this Silicon Valley tech leader,
We're going to build something in only nation States.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
To that point, literally an act of insanity.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
So the idea of cutting back waste and fraud in
the federal government is as crazy, maybe more, I think,
And it was it fit his ambition. It fit is
I don't care, I'm going to do it sort of attitude.
So yeah, I think he is the right guy to
do it. I'm surprised he did it, to be honest.
You know, if I were in issues, I think it
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would have focused more on other things. But at the
end of the day, Elon's really an idealist, and most
people don't understand that about him.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
You know, when he first came to me back in
two thousand and one wanting to do this Mars.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Mission, he wanted to demonstrate that humanity could become multiplanetary.
And you know, if you look at everything he's doing,
it's about setting a human human civilization on Mars. And Tesla,
the boring company x XAI, all these things are aimed
at that, and if you look at it with that filter,
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it starts to make sense. In the same way, I
think dose You know, his view probably was the only
thing to get in his way of making a settlement
on Mars was total chaos on Earth before you could
get there.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, you mentioned this, but I want to go there next.
What are your thoughts on SpaceX's ability to go to
Mars and maybe even colonize it? And that's certainly a
visionary notion. Is that realistic and how soon do you
think it could happen?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, it's absolutely realistic.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
You know, we could have done it after we went
to the Moon with Apollo. The question is how much
money we would have to spend having the government do it.
But what SpaceX has put together technically is without question
capable of sending things to Mars and large numbers of people,
large machines, those are all the things you need.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So if you think about in.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
A historical perspective, this is much the same as when
humans from Europe came to the New World five hundred
years ago and they started with colonies. They started with Jamestown,
the Roanoke colony. From there this became a beachhead. And
that's exactly how SpaceX will do it. And as long
as Elon's alive, I think it'll happen if something happens
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to Elon, which I think, you know I would hate
to see, But just like Trump, I wouldn't be surprised
if you know people.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
People are going to.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Try to kill him, and he used to go around
without security. I remember seeing him in a five guys
burger shop one day. It keep canaveral and I thought, wow, okay,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Do that for him.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
But as long as he's alive, that dream stays alive.
And the money is certainly there because the man can
raise money with impunity.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Right, People you know would would.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Do anything to be a part of this idea of
creating another civilization on another planet. What what's the time frame?
Every two years we launch. We've got a window. We've
got a window coming up the end of the year.
I think they'll launch some things. They're unmanned. Of course,
I would think it'll be six to eight years before
we see humans going to Mars. But if if things
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continue the way they are, they'll have a small colony
there in my lifetime for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well that's that's unbelievable to think about. What do you
think Elon will do next? I mean, we mentioned what
he's doing with SpaceX. He's going to scale back some
of his time. It does to focus on testleas said
that to the shareholders. But he's got this, you know,
there's the unbelievable vision and palette of companies. What else
does he have up his sleeve? What would you not
put it past him to do next?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, I do think the one thing that's characteristic of
Elon is that he's very focused. He seems very unfocused
to those who don't understand it. But like I said earlier,
all these things are connected. They're all a part of
going to Mars and settling Mars. And the Boring Company
is a great example where you you know, you think, well,
we're going to you know, boreholes underneath the cities and
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drive around on underground freeways. No, you're going to bore
into the side of the hills on Mars. And that's
the most efficient economic way to build a civilization as
underground on Mars for a lot of reasons. So I
don't honestly think you'll see him do anything else other
than to make this vision of reality. Finally, he has
all the pieces in place.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
And you know, I could be very wrong, But I
don't see anything missing from that other than figuring out
how to govern the ungovernable, which he's getting a little
experience there at DOGE, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, And he's certainly been what I would consider to
be an embodiment of the American dream. Well, Jim Cantrell,
thank you so much for giving us some insight on
Elon Musk, the man, the businessman, and the visionary. Thank you,
Jim pleasure. Well, coming up in light of President Trump's
commencement address in Alabama, we get into his appeal to
younger generations.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's up next.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Stay with us, Welcome back to Stenchfield. Tonight, in less
than an hour, President Trump will be making a commencement
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address at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, which is
actually the city where.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
My grandmother was born.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I've spent a good deal of time in TUSCALUSA, hosting
the Miss USA pageant there, and those who follow college
athletics will know what a powerhouse Alabama's football team has
been over the years. They were always a rival to
my mom and dad's alma mater of Ole Miss, but
Alabama is certainly a home for winning and as we
all know Donald Trump loves nothing more than winning. He
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took a commanding sixty four percent of the vote in
Republican heavy Alabama, and he had a number of big
rallies in.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
The state as well.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
At this event, which is actually a pre commencement event,
legendary Alabama coach Nick Saban will also be.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Speaking at this event as well.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
The White House has released no real information on the
content of this speech tonight, but I have to think
it will mention the winning culture at Alabama, which now
even includes their basketball team. And one area where Trump
made great in roads in his quest for a second
term was with the youth vote. His son Baron helped
him pick certain popular podcasts to go on and it
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absolutely had a big effect. Joining me now is Jackson
Beale's chapter secretary of Turning Point USA at the University
of Alabama, and Jackson is in line right now waiting
to see the President speak. So Jackson set the scene
for me in what it's like right now waiting in
line to see the president at the University of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Right now, it's ecstatic. People are lined up. They are
around the back of the baseball stadium, around the back
of the basketball stadium, and so thirty minutes alone to
get in. But I would say my class in general
is just so excited and can't wait.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So what do you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Think Jackson that the President will talk about today? The
White House didn't really let us in on what he
might speak about. What do you think he'll say to
you guys?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
So people may know you've never had a city president
kwee student Dave covestment speech here. But what my class
is really hoping for is a message of encouragement and motivation.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
A class that spent high school in COVID.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
So yeah, we're really just looking for that message of
a hope, encouragement and motivation.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well yeah, and you know, Alabama is obviously a culture
of winning, so I might expect that he'll he'll touch
on some some.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Elements of winning.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, you might expect Jackson that he would speak
at a college like West Point. That makes sense, Cadets,
Why do you think he chose the University of Alabama
to come to.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That?
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Done?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Something?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I wanted myself into school of excellence, in school of winning,
something we're used to and accustom to, something President.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
For all himself is accustomed to.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
All I can say, at the end of the day,
albrit can't hold a candle to this, so we can
always hold that over the.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, Jackson's interesting when I when I graduated
from Northwestern University, they gave us an ambassador who actually
left her post during nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So I think you're kind of getting the winning end
of the deal on.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
This particular commencement speech, mind was not so good. Tell
me a little bit about the political environment you did
you did get lucky. Mine not so good, especially with
all the famous alums that we've had. I don't know
how we got how we got the short end of
the stick on that one. But tell me about the
political environment at BAMA. Is it largely conservative? Would you say,
you know, Alabama is a conservative state? Is that true
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with the university as well well?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
As most people assume Alabama is a rather conservative campus university,
you know, in state in general. And I would say
that's how it is from my graduating class, as they hold.
But you know, you're always going to have opposition, You're
always going to have left this ideologies to deal with.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
There's big grumblings of Tucker strikes.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
There's people that bought tickets just to walk out for
President Trump's speech. I know Beno O'Rourke and former Senator
Doug Jones. They're holding counter rallies at a in downtown Tuscaluzdo.
So you're always going to have that opposition, but there's
a majority support for President Trump here tonight.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, you just took the words out of my mouth
because I wanted to ask you. You know, everybody to Alabama,
anybody that knows Alabama football, you hear role tide.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Everybody says role type.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But this opposition movement, this rally that you talked about,
College Democrats organized it. It's called Hide against Trump, and
that features as you mentioned, he has been Beto O'Rourke
and former Alabama former Alabama Senator Doug Jones. Not exactly
the stellar lineup one would think, is it.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
The two of them put together, I don't think they
can hold a candle to President troll. I also don't
think the crowd that you're a can into what is
like what's going on here at Comac Policy and today
it's everyone's happy, everyone can't away, and.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We're just excited to see the President's be Jackson.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I want to ask you about Donald Trump's son, Baron.
You know, he certainly had influence on his dad in
this last election, and he suggested a number of podcasts
that his dad appear on, from THEO Vaughn to Joe Rogan.
How influential do you think that that was with your generation?
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I would say it's very influential, thinking with a number
of friends of mine, we don't really watch the newsy
munt anymore. Run you two munti podcast, run Instagram, reading
articles on there. So the fact that then and Jadie
vancels well to that they performed the media. I think
that's how they want gen Z voters as although they
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really appealed to us as a generation, and I think
that's how we want us over.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, you mentioned that, and I want to I want
to touch on that too, Jackson. We've seen kind of
this new look to the press pool that has included influencers, huge,
huge social media influencers like Tim Poole, former Munford and
Sons band member Winston Marshallan and other new faces. It
seems that the media landscape has changed and Trump's team
is looking into the future, not to the dinosaur media.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So what do you think is the future of news delivery.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Well, personally, I hope it's not on TikTok, but I
feel like it's Instagram, TikTok, social media. That's the way
news delivery is going. But also podcasts as well, they're
grown in popularity in my generation. I believe that's how
most of us get our news today. And I think
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that for politicians to succeed here, they really have to
appeal to jim Z.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, a much much broader audience.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, Jackson, thank you so much for joining me today,
and good look out there waiting for President Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I know you'll have good time tonight. Thanks so much.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
So.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
We were keeping an eye on President Trump landing in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
should be happening shortly, and then he'll make his way
underway over to the Tuscaloosa campus to deliver this commencement address.
And as I just talked about with Jackson, you can
see that the the scene has been set and there
he is coming out right now of Air Force one
with his signature fist pump, waving to the crowd and
landing there in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where he'll be giving that
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commencement address. It sounds like, there's a lot of excitement
on the ground. There's a lot of young people that
want to hear him speak. By the way, this is
quite a contrast to Harvard, to Columbia, to other elite
universities where you're seeing pro gaza, pro Hamas protest. And earlier,
as I was talking to Jackson, I mentioned that various
podcasts that his son Baron recommended that he go on,
things like Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughan and Nelk Boys.
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These were things that presidents typically don't go on. And
let's be honest, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris couldn't have
gone on them.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And when she did go on them, she failed miserably.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Let's play a clip of Joe Rogan when Trump went
on his podcast.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
The rebels are Republicans now, they're like, you want to
be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you
want to like buck the system. You're a conservative. Now,
that's how crazy. And then the liberals are now pro
pro silencing criticism, they're pro censorship online. They're talking about
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regulating free speech and they're regulating the First Amendment. It's
bananas to watch.
Speaker 11 (31:12):
So they come after their political opponent, Well, do more guys.
I always say you're a kid, but I'm not kidding.
I've been investigated more than Alfonse Copone. He was the
meanest of them all.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So you see, conservatives are the new rebels, They're the
new renegades. He's absolutely right about that, and that's why
he connects with gen Z. Also want to get Senator
John Fetterman talking about gen Z.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
And now it's now whether it's pros or the manosphere
and all these I mean these clearly those are negative
kinds of term. And if you talk down with them,
or you make them part of the problem, or it's
all because of you and your fault, then of course
they're going to find an alternative. And that's what they've
done that And you know, I believe in having a
(31:55):
conversation on anyone that's playing it straight. I think we
should be talking to as many people as possible.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
And it's undeniable.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
The Democrats have lost a lot with men and we
I'm not sure where we're able to bring that back
without a long term kind of a strategy.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think Vetterman's right.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think the Democratic Party became anti man because they
supported men and women's sports. I think the party became
anti female for the very same reason. What is a man?
What is a woman? The lines have blurred and that's
why they lost him. Here comes Donald Trump speaking true
to these people and becoming a true alpha male.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Well, we'll keep an eye.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Out on President Trump, as you just saw him get
off Air Force one and he's on his way to
speak at the University of Alabama. Coming up on the show,
a Trump appointed judge has halted the President from invoking
the Alien Enemies Act.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
We get into it next to.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Say, welcome back to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm Bo Davidson filling in for Grant tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
In a first of its kind ruling, a Trump appointed
judge in Texas has ruled that the President unlawfully invoked
the Alien Enemies Act and stopped the deportation of some
alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The judge's US District
Judge Fernando Rodriguez of the Southern District of Texas. He
wrote that Trump does quote not possess the lawful authority
under the AEA and based on the proclamation to detain
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Venezuelan aliens transfer them within the United States or remove
them from the country. The President cannot summarily declare that
a foreign nation or government has threatened or perpetrated an
invasion or predatory incursion of the United States, followed by
the identification of the alien enemies subject to detention or removal.
Joining me now to break all of this down is
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JJ Carrell. JJ recently retired from the US Border Patrol
after a twenty four year career as a Deputy Patrol
agent in charge of the San Diego sector.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
He has authored the.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Book Invaded, The Intentional Destruction of the American Immigration System.
Thanks so much for joining me, JJ, and thank you
for your service and Border Patrol.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
You're welcome, Thank you. And what crazy times we're living in.
I believe that we are in a constitutional crisis right now,
and I believe Donald Trump is going to have to
pull in Andrew Jackson and tell the Supreme Court and
the judiciary the go pound sand and if they don't
like it, then try to enforce it against me. And
I believe that's what's left. I think I think we're
about a month or two away from him having to
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pull that card and throw it down.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Are you surprised JJ that this Trump appointed judge ruled
against him regarding the seventeen and ninety eight law.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
No, I'm not because the judiciary has usurped power they
don't have, and they think that they can override the
executive branch of our government. It's insane. Some dude in
a black robe has more power than the president of
the United States.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's absurd.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
The hoops that Donald Trump is having to jump through
are insane. That's why I believe he's going to get
his back push up against the wall and he's going
to have to announce we're in a constitutional crisis. I
need to get these fifty million illegal aliens out of
our country as they're killing, murdering forty American American citizens
every single day, not to include the rapes, the child
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sex trafficking, and everything else that these illegal alien savages
have done to our country. We're either going to get
them out of our nation or we are going to
feel pain for years and decades to come.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It seems that the ruling says that, Okay, we're not
in wartime, so the president can't just say it's wartime
in order to use the Alien Enemies Act. But if
he designated trained Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization, then
aren't we at war with them to some degree?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Well, not only that, You're absolutely correct. Stephen Miller came
out and said, look, all the intel agencies have already
come out and said, yes, Maduro emptied his prisons in
jails and sent those savages into our country with civic
orders to cause chaos and destruction. Act as if Venezuela
is our friend. It's like Mexico is our friend, with
the cartels or the MS thirteen is our friend. We
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need to wake up and realize the Democrat Party in
the left dspecifically hate America. And I always say this
when I be an interviewed. If you don't like that
conclusion that I have, then tell me what the hell
these people are doing. Why are they siding with MS thirteen.
Why are they citing with all the criminal aliens. Why
are they citing with the illegality of America and not
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with the American people and the citizens that are law,
that believe in law and order. And the answer is
comes back. They hate us. They want to fundamentally transform
the most racist nation on planet Earth. Their words, not mine.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
JJ to be honest, This seems to me like a
victory for illegal immigrants, and to me it raises questions
about what rights they have. I know that we are
a country of laws, but after you break the law
by coming into this country and you are now affiliated
with a deadly gang that is now a terrorist organization,
shouldn't that be sufficient to be deported?
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Where my course it is no, no, you're right, And
then you bring up something that's rarely, if ever discussed,
because people don't know this. Legal even legal immigrants do
not have the full protection of the Constitution of the
United States of America. Illegal aliens have none except when
they commit a crime, then they get due process like
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a regular American would.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
If you come in in a student visa, you come
in as a business visa, or you come in as
a legal resident. Do you know that you cannot protest
against the United States of America? Cannot you cannot ask
or demand change within our government? What protection do we
get to do that the First Amendment. Legal and illegal
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aliens do not have the protection of the Constitution, as
the left likes to pontificate. And as a barbitual agent,
I don't need arrest warrants to go get you. All
I have to determine is mere suspicion that you're in
legal alien. I go up there and talk to you,
and I determine that you are in legal alien.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You're under arrest, and.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
I put you into detention camps. That's it. And then
in camp you wait to see the judge or if
I'm able to arrest you within one hundred miles within
fourteen days, I can do what's called an expedator removal.
I become the judge and jury that is law.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
JJ in your time as a border patrol specialist, because
you did it for a while, give me the reality
of what happens there. I have to presume that MS
thirteen and Trandy Aerragua gangs don't come into America peacefully
to assimilate or to contribute to our economy.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Do they.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
No, they don't. And I'm not some guy that's been
on TV and I kind of looked at the border
from Afar and some think tank. No, I lived it.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I did it.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
I took down narco smugglers from Senor Lois Cartel. I
fought MS thirteen scumbags in the middle of the Tijana
River Valley. I've been there, done. I know what they
look like, smell, I know what they taste like from
fighting them and having their sweat and blood in my
face in my mouth. I know who they are, and
they are savages. And any politician that sides with the
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savages hate America and hate Americans period. The border right
now is almost one hundred percent closed. And I want
your audience to understand, from the very first day Joe
Biden took office to the very single last day he
took office, five to twenty thousand people cross that border
every single day and was released into the United States
of America. And that is treason. And I'm quoting Donald
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Trump when he said that it is treason what they've
done to us.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
JJ.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Why is the ACL you so giddy over this? Why
do they think it's a civil rights victory? And why
don't they care about the rights of Jocelyn Hungary and
Rachel Marin. They have rights too, They lost their lives.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Yeah, they don't have any rights. They don't in their eyes,
they don't. Look at Van Holland, he travels all the
way to El Salvador to help and have a cocktail
with an MS thirteen, that would carve him up with
a machete and literally eat his heart. They would eat
his heart. But he says nothing about the beautiful young
woman that's a mother of five and her life was
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snuffed out by a violent rape, throwing down into a
gully one hundred and fifty feet down the hillside. We
are living in alternative universe. But I also believe we
are in the middle and I don't believe America truly
understands this. We are in the middle of a war
for the soul of the United States of America, because
if we do not engage in this fight, this battle,
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of this war with the left, America is forever changed.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, and look, honestly, I think you're a hundred percent right.
Look at Canada. Look at what just happened in Canada,
a country without borders that allows unfettered immigration, goes down
the tubes and they still elected the liberal government. It
blows your mind. But that's what can happen here. I
completely agree with you, JJ. If you let that happen here,
your country is done. So you have to have a
president like Donald Trump who takes seriously and someone like
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Tom Holman.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
JJ.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
We're out of time.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
But thank you so much for your words, my friend,
and thank you for your service on the border.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Have a great night you too.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Coming up, Bill Maher and John Stewart go off on
President Trump and Kamala Harris returns to the scene. We'll
have a look at that when we come back. Stay
with us. Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. I'm Bo Davidson
filling in for the Great Grant Stenchfield. You may remember
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that Bill Maher attended a dinner with Donald Trump, broker
by the musician Kid Rock, and it was notable for
a lot of reasons, but most notable for Bill Maher's
honest recollection of how it unfolded. He said that the
crazy man that he's been railing against all these years
was not there, at least not on that particular night.
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And surely this had to have been raised some liberals,
but he said he didn't care. He was just wanting
to give you honesty, especially those liberals who got Bill
to be where he is today. That's how he made
such a following. So as we might have expected and anticipated,
he turned around and jabbed Trump in his latest rent
in a Free Press article. Take a look at this,
(42:11):
he says in a word show, can't say it on Aaron,
this is a family show. I said after he won
the election, I'm not going to pre hate anything, but
after one hundred days, there are probably one hundred things
to legitimately hate. And he goes on to say this
in the article, starting with disappearing people, the inefficiency of Doge, Yeah, right,
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ignoring the Supreme Court, killing people overseas with drastic cuts,
AID cuts, firing the guy in charge of his election
integrity office because he won't say twenty twenty was rigged,
Terraff related market collapse, America no longer being seen as
a safe place, the third term, talk suing.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
The media, Andrew Tate. I mean, I could just keep.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Ongoing interesting, Bill, But don't forget that Bill Maher was
very honest about his time with Trump.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Remember this.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
He's much more self aware and he lets on in public.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner
with a comedian.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
It matters who he is on the world stage.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists,
because everything I've ever not liked about him was I
swear to God absent at least on this night with
this guy. Bob kid Rock told me the night before,
he said, if you want to get a word in edgewise,
you're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
He'll just go on not at all.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Now, this is all fun material for Mar, but he
can't honestly think that Trump is a dictator or even
wants to be. What's interesting is that Mar admitted in
that meeting with Trump he saw a different man. He
saw a sensible, rational guy. So he knows, in his
heart of hearts, Trump is not a dictator.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Nor does he want to be.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
What Mar wants is for Trump's supporters to admit that
there is some turbulence, and okay, sure there is. That's
going to happen anytime. It's never smooth when you fight
with China. But if he doesn't do it, if Trump
doesn't take China to the man, who's going to do it.
Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, The chet GPT action
figures have more of a spine than the politicians that
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they represent, and Mar wasn't the only one to go
scorched to earth on Trump. Host John Stewart also went
on a tirad let's have a look at that. Donald
Trump's ratings are eleven points underwater.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
He's not afraid of being underwater because he's equipped.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
With a flotation unit, protective.
Speaker 12 (44:36):
A flotation unit, protective accessory or football.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
He's a football.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
He went dark for ten minutes. That's a bit odd,
is it not? Why because he was going off on Trump?
Speaker 9 (44:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Just seems odd to me. So that's another guy that
went off on Trump. But alas everyone, what you've been
waiting for. Really, Kamala Harris has returned to the scene
in a very cringe worthy way. Just when you thought
she was done cackling and laughing and serving up that
good word salad, chef, Kamala came back for more.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Let's have a look.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
You have a special role to play.
Speaker 13 (45:32):
Organizing is as important as ever, Mobilizing is as important
as ever. Running for office is as important as ever.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Running for president is as important as ever. Did you
get anything from that? She's still doing the same routine.
Well there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Kamala Harris,
your former nominee for the President of the United States, Well,
there you have it.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
And when we come back.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
We'll have a little more of some interesting choice words
from ilan Omar when we come back.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Representative illan Omar has been a divisive figure in certainly
a Gaza and Hamas sympathist, but recently she had some
choice words for a reporter from the Daily Caller about
visiting El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Let's have a look at that, Congress and Omar. I'm
Miles Morrell with the Daily Caller News Foundation. Do you
think more of your.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Democratic College should be traveling to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
To advocate on behalf of a vinego Garcia.
Speaker 11 (46:44):
I think you should.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congress should you?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Why me?
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I'm not thinking get any of my questions right now, but.
Speaker 8 (46:53):
Here you go.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Uh yeah, thanks, We'll have some news for you. Miss
Omar should go to El Salvador. For everyone out there
that sympathizes with Hamas, MS thirteen trained, the Arragua and
other areas and groups that hate us, why don't you
just go on a vacation there, try it out, give
it a shot. When these telemarketers call you and say
you've won a vacation, let's give some R and R
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to elan Omar for a vacation for two to l
Salvador and Gaza. It's at that point that I don't
think she'd be the one telling anyone to f off.
In fact, I think it would be the residence of
that area telling her to f off. You know, women's
rights are not too championed over there in the Arab world,
nor are they too championed in the ranks of Latin
American gangs.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
See, this is the unfortunate barb of free speech.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
You can say anything you want, but you better be
careful what you say lest you look like a fool.
And sadly, elan Omer continues to look like a fool.
She's like what Senator John Kennedy said about aoc it's operation.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Let her talk, so let them talk.
Well, welcome to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I am Bo Davidson filling in for Grants, so thank
you so much for watching. There's a big night on
tap in Alabama as President Donald Trump delivers the commencement
speech at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa at approximately
eight eastern seventh Central. So we will be keeping an
eye on Air Force one as the President touches down
in Tuscaloosa. Alabama, of course, is about as red of
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a state as you can get, and he's certainly loved.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
There by all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We will keep you updated as we get closer to
the top of the next hour. And in some big
news earlier today that broke National Security Advisor Mike Waltz
is out along with his deputy Alex Wong in their
respective positions. This comes just after the big one hundred
day mark for the President and a meeting with his cabinet.
Now you'll recall that Mike Waltz was at the center
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of what became known as Signal Gate, which was a
private communications thread on the messaging app Signal, which conferred
some very sensitive information about military operations against the Houthis,
a terrorist group. Waltz admitted fault for this, saying that
he did build the group and said it was embarrassing
as the threat included the editor in chief of The Atlantic,
(01:29):
Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, Trump posted on True Social at about
two fifteen pm Eastern today that he is nominating Mike
Waltz to be Ambassador to the United Nations, a position
that was vacant when Elie Stefanic was recalled to come
back home to help out in some of the.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Elections in the interim.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Trump says that Marco Rubio will serve as National Security
Advisor while also balancing his work as Secretary of State. So, guys,
this is some very interesting news with Waltz being ousted
as National Security Advisor but being transitioned perhaps to the
United Nations. Is that really a firing then, or is
it a transition or is it a demotion? Perhaps he'd
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have to have a simple majority in the Senate to
get confirmed for.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This position at the UN.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
My guest to speak about this breaking news is Jonathan Gilliam.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
He's a career.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Public servant with over twenty years of service as a
Navy seal, FBI Special Agent, Federal Air Marshall police officer,
and author of sheep no more the art of awareness
and attack Survival. Thank you so much for joining me tonight, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Good to be with you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well Jonathan, first of all, did you see this ouster coming?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I didn't see it coming in this way. It's interesting
how long it took. But I'll tell you you look,
Mike Walls is cut from the same cloth that I
was cut from as a seal. He was Special Forces,
and I think he took ownership pretty quickly, saying that
all the blame laid with him. And I think it
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took this long because they had to look into the
reality of what it was. And just like in the military,
he got removed from his position regardless of what they say.
I don't think if that hadn't have happened, he would
probably still be in that position. But typical of government,
I guess it doesn't matter who's in office that people
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get promoted up. They get promoted either sideways or up.
They never just get fired when they're in an executive
leadership position.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's very rare.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And so I hope Mike does really good work over there,
and I hope that I just hope that he carries
on with the potential of a leader that he has
and that we have no more of these issues. I mean,
the reality is none of those people should have been
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on that civilian app talking about the things that they
were talking about. I don't care how they want.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
To spin it. That just should not be the case.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So on one side, I'm really glad that President Trump
took action and showed that if you do something to
this extent in my administration, you will be removed.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But on the other hand, it.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Pains me inside when I see people do something that
they just get promoted or move sideways. So I'm torn
about this in several different ways.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Jonathan, I'll be honest with you. I am too.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, we Waltz admitted that he was responsible for
putting that group chat together, and I know that. You know,
sometimes mistakes can be made. A mistake is a mistake.
But is this one that you would say in your
view that absolutely merits the move that Trump has made.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I do well, I think the firing it merits that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I don't know what the decision making process was to
promote him to that position. Maybe it's perhaps that he
trusts him even though and he thinks that Mike made
a mistake, but he still trusts him. But I'll tell
you this, I've been going scorched on Pete Hexath because
I don't think Pete is that the problems Pete has
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is a leftist media issue. I think the leftist media
takes advantage of the things that Pete Hexath does, and
that's why he's talked about so much in the mainstream media.
He didn't just do this issue with Signal, where he
was the main guy putting out things that you can
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say it was or wasn't war plans, but was definitely
given specific information about what aircraft and ammunitions and who
was being hit. But he then he did it again.
He did it again with his wife and some other individuals.
It may or may have not been authorized to hear
this information. I don't agree with that. I don't agree
with the way he and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi
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and Christy nom have been flying all over the place
taking selfies and making speeches that in agencies that right
now are riddled with middle management and some upper management
that is ripe with leftists and people who have caused
all these problems. It wasn't, for instance, with DHS, it
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wasn't just my orcus, it was these other executives that
exist within the DHS that allowed the border to turn
into the poorest environment that it is.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Same thing with the FBI. It's a disaster.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yet Cash betail goes and posts a picture of him
running with new cadets that display exactly what DEI gets,
you fat out of shape and all the women pushed
to the front of the picture running with him, so
that everybody realizes that the FBI is hiring women. That's DEI.
So Cash hasn't changed anything that I can see. He's
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moved people to the left or right or up or down,
fired a few here and there, but no restructuring, no
shutting down operations and figuring out, you know, who these
leftists are, because that is the problem with all of this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it's interesting. It's interesting you mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
About Pete Hegseeth because I was going to say, you know,
I'd ask for some conjecture here, but you know, does
Waltz have some sort of blackmail on Hegseth to where
Trump could just outright fire him, you know, why keep
him in the cabinet. But it sounds to me like
you're saying that Pete Hegseth is as culpable, if not
more than Mike Walls. So why is Mike Walts the
fall guy? If arguably Pete Hegseth has done.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Worse, I think it's because Mike Walls set that up.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He set that signal group up.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And when you look at and when you try to
weigh these things out, having the guy from the Atlantic
on there, who is an avid Trump hater and who
is an avid leftist and a part of this leftist
ideological criminal enterprise, I think that Mike Walls took to
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blame and he suffered the consequence.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Though, in my mind, in my investig not just my mind,
but my investigation native analysis, I think Pete Hexath and
Cash Pattel are very dangerous for this President's strategy and
for what he's trying to do for this nation and
save this nation. I think those two individuals in particular
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are ones that are very disruptive to President carrying out
those things, whether it's the signal issue with Pete Hexath
or Pete Hexath coming out yesterday after President Trump had
made an announcement to Iran, which that's his job Pete
Hexath comes out with his own ex post saying that
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he is threatening that putting Iran on notice is though
he's the president.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So these are things that are.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Being repeated over and over again, and I think eventually
this could bite the president and his agenda worse than
anything Walltz did.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, and it's interesting how Pete Hegseith kind of discredited
the outlet when the White House was already saying yeah,
we admit that this happened.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But something I'm thinking about too, Jonathan, is especially with
Mike Walls, he still has to have a simple majority
to be confirmed as ambassador to the UN. So do
you think he'd have the votes? I mean, now that
Republicans have seen this misstep with signal, could Republicans balk
after this embarrassment?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is it possible?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I think they could, But I think he has a
better chance. And if Pete Hexith, for instance, was fired
and then rehired as ambassador. I think that Mike is
respected by a lot of people in Congress and they
see what happened as a complete screw up, but they
don't look at him as they screw up. And I
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think if he gets confirmed that will be the reason
why he got through.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But again, this whole thing, right, we're.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Talking about Mike, and we're talking about Pete, and we're
talking about all these different things every day all day
in media. But the reality is this leftist ideological criminal enterprise.
I came up that term because it stands for the
abbreviation for that or the acronym is lice.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
We need to comb.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
That lice out of this nation and out of all
these government agencies because everything we're talking about, with the
exception of these personal mess ups by these agency leaders,
all the issues that they are dealing with come from
the left. And if they don't concentrate on that, then
in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight, or anytime
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that the leftists are able to get a foothold again,
they will go right back and start crushing everything that
this president has done so masterfully in his first hundred days.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now, you have a great point there, Jonathan. Who do
you think is a good replacement for Mike Wallas's National
security advisor? What do you think there's any possibility he
brings back General Flynn or who would you like to
see there?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, look, I think General Flynn and I met
him once and he's a fascinating individual. I think that
General Flynn would have been I don't know what his
relationship is with President Trump, but he would be a
great chief of Staff. I think Mike Flynn would be
great Secretary of Defense. He would be a great in
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Mike Wallas's position. He's just a great guy and when
I met him, he impressed me because he said everything
that I feel is wrong and everything that we should
do that is right, and so I like him. But
I'll tell you a name that nobody obscure, name Scott Ulinger.
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That guy would be perfect in this position where Mike
Waal has stepped down. He is a former naval officer,
CIA chief of Station and one of the most well
read individuals I've ever met in my life, and very intelligent,
and he knows that era you very well. If I
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was President Trump or if I had the opportunity to
speak to him, that is the name that I would float.
I fully trust him, and he's an amazing, amazing individual.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Be a great guest for this show. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
On that note, Jonathan, thank you so much for your
wisdom and your expertise.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
As always, we appreciate you, sir. You got it. And listen,
I've got hair in vy. You have great hair well,
and I got beard envy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I can't grow one like that and I'm just trying,
but I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Thank you, John. We ve each other's hair, just a
different case. Thanks Jonathan. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
In some other news, we all know that Elon Musk
will be gradually stepping back from his role as chief
of the Department of Government Efficiency aka Doche He was
in President Trump's cabinet meeting yesterday with not one but
two hats on.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I love the doublehead.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, thank you, well, miss President.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
You know they say I wear a lot of hats,
see it, that's true.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Even my hat has a hat.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Oh yeah, Elon's hat had a hat.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Joining me now to discuss Elon Musk's role as a
leader is Jim Cantrell, the founder of several entrepreneurial startups,
including Phantom Space, Vector strat Space, and Vintage Exotics Competition Engineering.
He was notably on the founding team of SpaceX and
served as the first VP of business Development.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Welcome to the show, Jim, Hi, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's great to meet you, Jim, take me back to
the early days of SpaceX and describe what the culture
was like.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Yeah, you know, SpaceX in the early days was pretty
much like any other startup. It was pretty unremarkable in
that sense. You know, I think back to those days
with fondness and you know, not really none of us
realize Elon would become what he is today. But you know,
I will tell you what everybody has seen on the
six o'clock news, you know, with Elon and Trump and
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that going on. That's the same Elon we saw twenty
five years ago. You know what what I've said is
I'm waiting for him to call federal employees randomly at
three in the morning, asking them what in the world
they're up to. That was a sort of thing that
happened to us.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, that's that's interesting you say that, because I'd like
if you could to describe Elon's leadership style.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
He always seems meek mannered to me.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
He's mild in that regard, but I imagine he has
to have high expectations.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I think he's anything but mild. You know.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
He has that soft, sort of British sounding South African accent,
but don't let that fool you.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The man is ferocious. He's full of energy.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
He leads from the front, sometimes too much, and you know,
his style is definitely to get involved in every major
decision in the company, you know, almost to the point
but not quite a sane he micromanages, but he understands
what's being decided on and gets involved, even down to engineering.
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So it's SpaceX, you know, he got involve in, you
know a lot of the technical meetings. He borrowed my
college textbooks from you know, aerospace engineering on rockets and
propulsion and things like that, and you know, read up
on them. And the guy wouldn't just you know, say
he read them, but he would really truly absorb it.
A very dynamic person, has a lot of vision, very
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intolerant of fools, and works just immense hours, you know,
literally that three o'clock phone call from me was you know,
what are you doing? I said, I'm sleeping. He said,
a lot of work. You need to get here, and
slam goes down the phones.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah you can rest when you're dead.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And that's what they say, right, It sounds like that's
what Elon style is. Well, Jim, what's been your reaction
to the public's resistance to Elon's work at DOGE and
the violence, especially against Tesla. We see these protests, we
see them being lit on fire.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
What's what's been your reaction to that?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
My personal reactions, it is hysteria and hatred directed at Elon.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You know, it's strange for me to have seen.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Him go from you know, the person I knew twenty
five years ago, which relatively unknown to you know, elevated
to a deity status, and now he's considered, you know,
some sort of partner with Satan.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And I think it's affected Elon too.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You know, I watched him in his public persona and
I would say, you know, that's the one we've always known.
But I'll tell you what, the last six to eight weeks,
with all the vitriol that's coming at him, I think
it's affected him. I don't think he expected that. You know,
maybe he got used to this public adoration, but to
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have people attack him so personally he was something I
don't think he ever anticipated, and.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
With such suddenness and viciousness. And they're the.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Same people, you know, that had exalted him to a
deity that have turned around and earned his dealerships to
the ground.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It's really.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
It's a bad indication of where our politics are in
this country today.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, and I have to think that he with little
X on his shoulders as a father, that that's got
to be difficult to go through. And I know he
wants a relationship with his children as well he should.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's got to be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Tough considering all the hats he's obviously wearing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I know that's difficult. It has to w and
you're right, it does.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Look like it's affected him because you go from this genius,
as you described, this visionary into a role where he's
cutting out government waste and fraud. You would think that
the public would laud him, but instead you see them
lambasting him. But I want to know, knowing what you
know about Elon in your time with them, do you
think there's anybody better suited to take on the role
of doge than Elon Musk himself.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, you know, if you.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Go back to two thousand and one when you had
a rocket deal with the Russians that went south, and
then you know, on our way home from Moscow, he
said to me, I think we can build this rocket ourselves.
That was insanity to say that this ragtag group of
people and we were ragtag and this Silicon Valley tech leader,
We're going to build something in only nation States.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
To that point, literally an act of insanity.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
So the idea of cutting back waste and fraud in
the federal government is as crazy, maybe more, I think,
And it was it fit his ambition. It fit is
I don't care, I'm going to do it sort of attitude.
So yeah, I think he is the right guy to
do it. I'm surprised he did it, to be honest.
You know, if I were in issues, I think it
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would have focused more on other things. But at the
end of the day, Elon's really an idealist, and most
people don't understand that about him.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
You know, when he first came to me back in
two thousand and one wanting to do this Mars.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Mission, he wanted to demonstrate that humanity could become multiplanetary.
And you know, if you look at everything he's doing,
it's about setting a human human civilization on Mars. And Tesla,
the boring company x XAI, all these things are aimed
at that, and if you look at it with that filter,
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it starts to make sense. In the same way, I
think dose You know, his view probably was the only
thing to get in his way of making a settlement
on Mars was total chaos on Earth before you could
get there.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, you mentioned this, but I want to go there next.
What are your thoughts on SpaceX's ability to go to
Mars and maybe even colonize it? And that's certainly a
visionary notion. Is that realistic and how soon do you
think it could happen?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, it's absolutely realistic.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
You know, we could have done it after we went
to the Moon with Apollo. The question is how much
money we would have to spend having the government do it.
But what SpaceX has put together technically is without question
capable of sending things to Mars and large numbers of people,
large machines, those are all the things you need.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
So if you think about in.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
A historical perspective, this is much the same as when
humans from Europe came to the New World five hundred
years ago and they started with colonies. They started with Jamestown,
the Roanoke colony. From there this became a beachhead. And
that's exactly how SpaceX will do it. And as long
as Elon's alive, I think it'll happen if something happens
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to Elon, which I think, you know I would hate
to see, But just like Trump, I wouldn't be surprised
if you know people.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
People are going to.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Try to kill him, and he used to go around
without security. I remember seeing him in a five guys
burger shop one day. It keep canaveral and I thought, wow, okay,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Do that for him.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
But as long as he's alive, that dream stays alive.
And the money is certainly there because the man can
raise money with impunity.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Right, People you know would would.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Do anything to be a part of this idea of
creating another civilization on another planet. What what's the time frame?
Every two years we launch. We've got a window. We've
got a window coming up the end of the year.
I think they'll launch some things. They're unmanned. Of course,
I would think it'll be six to eight years before
we see humans going to Mars. But if if things
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continue the way they are, they'll have a small colony
there in my lifetime for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well that's that's unbelievable to think about. What do you
think Elon will do next? I mean, we mentioned what
he's doing with SpaceX. He's going to scale back some
of his time. It does to focus on testleas said
that to the shareholders. But he's got this, you know,
there's the unbelievable vision and palette of companies. What else
does he have up his sleeve? What would you not
put it past him to do next?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, I do think the one thing that's characteristic of
Elon is that he's very focused. He seems very unfocused
to those who don't understand it. But like I said earlier,
all these things are connected. They're all a part of
going to Mars and settling Mars. And the Boring Company
is a great example where you you know, you think, well,
we're going to you know, boreholes underneath the cities and
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drive around on underground freeways. No, you're going to bore
into the side of the hills on Mars. And that's
the most efficient economic way to build a civilization as
underground on Mars for a lot of reasons. So I
don't honestly think you'll see him do anything else other
than to make this vision of reality. Finally, he has
all the pieces in place.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
And you know, I could be very wrong, But I
don't see anything missing from that other than figuring out
how to govern the ungovernable, which he's getting a little
experience there at DOGE, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, And he's certainly been what I would consider to
be an embodiment of the American dream. Well, Jim Cantrell,
thank you so much for giving us some insight on
Elon Musk, the man, the businessman, and the visionary. Thank you,
Jim pleasure. Well, coming up in light of President Trump's
commencement address in Alabama, we get into his appeal to
younger generations.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's up next.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Stay with us, Welcome back to Stenchfield. Tonight, in less
than an hour, President Trump will be making a commencement
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address at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, which is
actually the city where.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
My grandmother was born.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I've spent a good deal of time in TUSCALUSA, hosting
the Miss USA pageant there, and those who follow college
athletics will know what a powerhouse Alabama's football team has
been over the years. They were always a rival to
my mom and dad's alma mater of Ole Miss, but
Alabama is certainly a home for winning and as we
all know Donald Trump loves nothing more than winning. He
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took a commanding sixty four percent of the vote in
Republican heavy Alabama, and he had a number of big
rallies in.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
The state as well.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
At this event, which is actually a pre commencement event,
legendary Alabama coach Nick Saban will also be.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Speaking at this event as well.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
The White House has released no real information on the
content of this speech tonight, but I have to think
it will mention the winning culture at Alabama, which now
even includes their basketball team. And one area where Trump
made great in roads in his quest for a second
term was with the youth vote. His son Baron helped
him pick certain popular podcasts to go on and it
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absolutely had a big effect. Joining me now is Jackson
Beale's chapter secretary of Turning Point USA at the University
of Alabama, and Jackson is in line right now waiting
to see the President speak. So Jackson set the scene
for me in what it's like right now waiting in
line to see the president at the University of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Right now, it's ecstatic. People are lined up. They are
around the back of the baseball stadium, around the back
of the basketball stadium, and so thirty minutes alone to
get in. But I would say my class in general
is just so excited and can't wait.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So what do you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Think Jackson that the President will talk about today? The
White House didn't really let us in on what he
might speak about. What do you think he'll say to
you guys?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
So people may know you've never had a city president
kwee student Dave covestment speech here. But what my class
is really hoping for is a message of encouragement and motivation.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
A class that spent high school in COVID.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
So yeah, we're really just looking for that message of
a hope, encouragement and motivation.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well yeah, and you know, Alabama is obviously a culture
of winning, so I might expect that he'll he'll touch
on some some.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Elements of winning.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, you might expect Jackson that he would speak
at a college like West Point. That makes sense, Cadets,
Why do you think he chose the University of Alabama
to come to.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That?
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Done?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Something?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I wanted myself into school of excellence, in school of winning,
something we're used to and accustom to, something President.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
For all himself is accustomed to.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
All I can say, at the end of the day,
albrit can't hold a candle to this, so we can
always hold that over the.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, Jackson's interesting when I when I graduated
from Northwestern University, they gave us an ambassador who actually
left her post during nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So I think you're kind of getting the winning end
of the deal on.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
This particular commencement speech, mind was not so good. Tell
me a little bit about the political environment you did
you did get lucky. Mine not so good, especially with
all the famous alums that we've had. I don't know
how we got how we got the short end of
the stick on that one. But tell me about the
political environment at BAMA. Is it largely conservative? Would you say,
you know, Alabama is a conservative state? Is that true
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with the university as well well?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
As most people assume Alabama is a rather conservative campus university,
you know, in state in general. And I would say
that's how it is from my graduating class, as they hold.
But you know, you're always going to have opposition, You're
always going to have left this ideologies to deal with.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
There's big grumblings of Tucker strikes.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
There's people that bought tickets just to walk out for
President Trump's speech. I know Beno O'Rourke and former Senator
Doug Jones. They're holding counter rallies at a in downtown Tuscaluzdo.
So you're always going to have that opposition, but there's
a majority support for President Trump here tonight.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, you just took the words out of my mouth
because I wanted to ask you. You know, everybody to Alabama,
anybody that knows Alabama football, you hear role tide.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Everybody says role type.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But this opposition movement, this rally that you talked about,
College Democrats organized it. It's called Hide against Trump, and
that features as you mentioned, he has been Beto O'Rourke
and former Alabama former Alabama Senator Doug Jones. Not exactly
the stellar lineup one would think, is it.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
No.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
The two of them put together, I don't think they
can hold a candle to President troll. I also don't
think the crowd that you're a can into what is
like what's going on here at Comac Policy and today
it's everyone's happy, everyone can't away, and.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We're just excited to see the President's be Jackson.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I want to ask you about Donald Trump's son, Baron.
You know, he certainly had influence on his dad in
this last election, and he suggested a number of podcasts
that his dad appear on, from THEO Vaughn to Joe Rogan.
How influential do you think that that was with your generation?
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I would say it's very influential, thinking with a number
of friends of mine, we don't really watch the newsy
munt anymore. Run you two munti podcast, run Instagram, reading
articles on there. So the fact that then and Jadie
vancels well to that they performed the media. I think
that's how they want gen Z voters as although they
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really appealed to us as a generation, and I think
that's how we want us over.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, you mentioned that, and I want to I want
to touch on that too, Jackson. We've seen kind of
this new look to the press pool that has included influencers, huge,
huge social media influencers like Tim Poole, former Munford and
Sons band member Winston Marshallan and other new faces. It
seems that the media landscape has changed and Trump's team
is looking into the future, not to the dinosaur media.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So what do you think is the future of news delivery.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Well, personally, I hope it's not on TikTok, but I
feel like it's Instagram, TikTok, social media. That's the way
news delivery is going. But also podcasts as well, they're
grown in popularity in my generation. I believe that's how
most of us get our news today. And I think
(29:26):
that for politicians to succeed here, they really have to
appeal to jim Z.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, a much much broader audience.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, Jackson, thank you so much for joining me today,
and good look out there waiting for President Trump.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I know you'll have good time tonight. Thanks so much.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
So.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
We were keeping an eye on President Trump landing in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
should be happening shortly, and then he'll make his way
underway over to the Tuscaloosa campus to deliver this commencement address.
And as I just talked about with Jackson, you can
see that the the scene has been set and there
he is coming out right now of Air Force one
with his signature fist pump, waving to the crowd and
landing there in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where he'll be giving that
(30:10):
commencement address. It sounds like, there's a lot of excitement
on the ground. There's a lot of young people that
want to hear him speak. By the way, this is
quite a contrast to Harvard, to Columbia, to other elite
universities where you're seeing pro gaza, pro Hamas protest. And earlier,
as I was talking to Jackson, I mentioned that various
podcasts that his son Baron recommended that he go on,
things like Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughan and Nelk Boys.
(30:34):
These were things that presidents typically don't go on. And
let's be honest, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris couldn't have
gone on them.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And when she did go on them, she failed miserably.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Let's play a clip of Joe Rogan when Trump went
on his podcast.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
The rebels are Republicans now, they're like, you want to
be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you
want to like buck the system. You're a conservative. Now,
that's how crazy. And then the liberals are now pro
pro silencing criticism, they're pro censorship online. They're talking about
(31:07):
regulating free speech and they're regulating the First Amendment. It's
bananas to watch.
Speaker 11 (31:12):
So they come after their political opponent, Well, do more guys.
I always say you're a kid, but I'm not kidding.
I've been investigated more than Alfonse Copone. He was the
meanest of them all.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So you see, conservatives are the new rebels, They're the
new renegades. He's absolutely right about that, and that's why
he connects with gen Z. Also want to get Senator
John Fetterman talking about gen Z.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
And now it's now whether it's pros or the manosphere
and all these I mean these clearly those are negative
kinds of term. And if you talk down with them,
or you make them part of the problem, or it's
all because of you and your fault, then of course
they're going to find an alternative. And that's what they've
done that And you know, I believe in having a
(31:55):
conversation on anyone that's playing it straight. I think we
should be talking to as many people as possible.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
And it's undeniable.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
The Democrats have lost a lot with men and we
I'm not sure where we're able to bring that back
without a long term kind of a strategy.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think Vetterman's right.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think the Democratic Party became anti man because they
supported men and women's sports. I think the party became
anti female for the very same reason. What is a man?
What is a woman? The lines have blurred and that's
why they lost him. Here comes Donald Trump speaking true
to these people and becoming a true alpha male.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Well, we'll keep an eye.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Out on President Trump, as you just saw him get
off Air Force one and he's on his way to
speak at the University of Alabama. Coming up on the show,
a Trump appointed judge has halted the President from invoking
the Alien Enemies Act.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
We get into it next to.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Say, welcome back to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm Bo Davidson filling in for Grant tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
In a first of its kind ruling, a Trump appointed
judge in Texas has ruled that the President unlawfully invoked
the Alien Enemies Act and stopped the deportation of some
alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The judge's US District
Judge Fernando Rodriguez of the Southern District of Texas. He
wrote that Trump does quote not possess the lawful authority
under the AEA and based on the proclamation to detain
(33:28):
Venezuelan aliens transfer them within the United States or remove
them from the country. The President cannot summarily declare that
a foreign nation or government has threatened or perpetrated an
invasion or predatory incursion of the United States, followed by
the identification of the alien enemies subject to detention or removal.
Joining me now to break all of this down is
(33:49):
JJ Carrell. JJ recently retired from the US Border Patrol
after a twenty four year career as a Deputy Patrol
agent in charge of the San Diego sector.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
He has authored the.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Book Invaded, The Intentional Destruction of the American Immigration System.
Thanks so much for joining me, JJ, and thank you
for your service and Border Patrol.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
You're welcome, Thank you. And what crazy times we're living in.
I believe that we are in a constitutional crisis right now,
and I believe Donald Trump is going to have to
pull in Andrew Jackson and tell the Supreme Court and
the judiciary the go pound sand and if they don't
like it, then try to enforce it against me. And
I believe that's what's left. I think I think we're
about a month or two away from him having to
(34:29):
pull that card and throw it down.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Are you surprised JJ that this Trump appointed judge ruled
against him regarding the seventeen and ninety eight law.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
No, I'm not because the judiciary has usurped power they
don't have, and they think that they can override the
executive branch of our government. It's insane. Some dude in
a black robe has more power than the president of
the United States.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's absurd.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
The hoops that Donald Trump is having to jump through
are insane. That's why I believe he's going to get
his back push up against the wall and he's going
to have to announce we're in a constitutional crisis. I
need to get these fifty million illegal aliens out of
our country as they're killing, murdering forty American American citizens
every single day, not to include the rapes, the child
(35:20):
sex trafficking, and everything else that these illegal alien savages
have done to our country. We're either going to get
them out of our nation or we are going to
feel pain for years and decades to come.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It seems that the ruling says that, Okay, we're not
in wartime, so the president can't just say it's wartime
in order to use the Alien Enemies Act. But if
he designated trained Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization, then
aren't we at war with them to some degree?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Well, not only that, You're absolutely correct. Stephen Miller came
out and said, look, all the intel agencies have already
come out and said, yes, Maduro emptied his prisons in
jails and sent those savages into our country with civic
orders to cause chaos and destruction. Act as if Venezuela
is our friend. It's like Mexico is our friend, with
the cartels or the MS thirteen is our friend. We
(36:10):
need to wake up and realize the Democrat Party in
the left dspecifically hate America. And I always say this
when I be an interviewed. If you don't like that
conclusion that I have, then tell me what the hell
these people are doing. Why are they siding with MS thirteen.
Why are they citing with all the criminal aliens. Why
are they citing with the illegality of America and not
(36:33):
with the American people and the citizens that are law,
that believe in law and order. And the answer is
comes back. They hate us. They want to fundamentally transform
the most racist nation on planet Earth. Their words, not mine.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
JJ to be honest, This seems to me like a
victory for illegal immigrants, and to me it raises questions
about what rights they have. I know that we are
a country of laws, but after you break the law
by coming into this country and you are now affiliated
with a deadly gang that is now a terrorist organization,
shouldn't that be sufficient to be deported?
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Where my course it is no, no, you're right, And
then you bring up something that's rarely, if ever discussed,
because people don't know this. Legal even legal immigrants do
not have the full protection of the Constitution of the
United States of America. Illegal aliens have none except when
they commit a crime, then they get due process like
(37:28):
a regular American would.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
If you come in in a student visa, you come
in as a business visa, or you come in as
a legal resident. Do you know that you cannot protest
against the United States of America? Cannot you cannot ask
or demand change within our government? What protection do we
get to do that the First Amendment. Legal and illegal
(37:52):
aliens do not have the protection of the Constitution, as
the left likes to pontificate. And as a barbitual agent,
I don't need arrest warrants to go get you. All
I have to determine is mere suspicion that you're in
legal alien. I go up there and talk to you,
and I determine that you are in legal alien.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You're under arrest, and.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
I put you into detention camps. That's it. And then
in camp you wait to see the judge or if
I'm able to arrest you within one hundred miles within
fourteen days, I can do what's called an expedator removal.
I become the judge and jury that is law.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
JJ in your time as a border patrol specialist, because
you did it for a while, give me the reality
of what happens there. I have to presume that MS
thirteen and Trandy Aerragua gangs don't come into America peacefully
to assimilate or to contribute to our economy.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Do they.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
No, they don't. And I'm not some guy that's been
on TV and I kind of looked at the border
from Afar and some think tank. No, I lived it.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I did it.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
I took down narco smugglers from Senor Lois Cartel. I
fought MS thirteen scumbags in the middle of the Tijana
River Valley. I've been there, done. I know what they
look like, smell, I know what they taste like from
fighting them and having their sweat and blood in my
face in my mouth. I know who they are, and
they are savages. And any politician that sides with the
(39:11):
savages hate America and hate Americans period. The border right
now is almost one hundred percent closed. And I want
your audience to understand, from the very first day Joe
Biden took office to the very single last day he
took office, five to twenty thousand people cross that border
every single day and was released into the United States
of America. And that is treason. And I'm quoting Donald
(39:33):
Trump when he said that it is treason what they've
done to us.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
JJ.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Why is the ACL you so giddy over this? Why
do they think it's a civil rights victory? And why
don't they care about the rights of Jocelyn Hungary and
Rachel Marin. They have rights too, They lost their lives.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Yeah, they don't have any rights. They don't in their eyes,
they don't. Look at Van Holland, he travels all the
way to El Salvador to help and have a cocktail
with an MS thirteen, that would carve him up with
a machete and literally eat his heart. They would eat
his heart. But he says nothing about the beautiful young
woman that's a mother of five and her life was
(40:10):
snuffed out by a violent rape, throwing down into a
gully one hundred and fifty feet down the hillside. We
are living in alternative universe. But I also believe we
are in the middle and I don't believe America truly
understands this. We are in the middle of a war
for the soul of the United States of America, because
if we do not engage in this fight, this battle,
(40:33):
of this war with the left, America is forever changed.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, and look, honestly, I think you're a hundred percent right.
Look at Canada. Look at what just happened in Canada,
a country without borders that allows unfettered immigration, goes down
the tubes and they still elected the liberal government. It
blows your mind. But that's what can happen here. I
completely agree with you, JJ. If you let that happen here,
your country is done. So you have to have a
president like Donald Trump who takes seriously and someone like
(40:59):
Tom Holman.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
JJ.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
We're out of time.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
But thank you so much for your words, my friend,
and thank you for your service on the border.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Have a great night you too.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Coming up, Bill Maher and John Stewart go off on
President Trump and Kamala Harris returns to the scene. We'll
have a look at that when we come back. Stay
with us. Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. I'm Bo Davidson
filling in for the Great Grant Stenchfield. You may remember
(41:30):
that Bill Maher attended a dinner with Donald Trump, broker
by the musician Kid Rock, and it was notable for
a lot of reasons, but most notable for Bill Maher's
honest recollection of how it unfolded. He said that the
crazy man that he's been railing against all these years
was not there, at least not on that particular night.
(41:51):
And surely this had to have been raised some liberals,
but he said he didn't care. He was just wanting
to give you honesty, especially those liberals who got Bill
to be where he is today. That's how he made
such a following. So as we might have expected and anticipated,
he turned around and jabbed Trump in his latest rent
in a Free Press article. Take a look at this,
(42:11):
he says in a word show, can't say it on Aaron,
this is a family show. I said after he won
the election, I'm not going to pre hate anything, but
after one hundred days, there are probably one hundred things
to legitimately hate. And he goes on to say this
in the article, starting with disappearing people, the inefficiency of Doge, Yeah, right,
(42:32):
ignoring the Supreme Court, killing people overseas with drastic cuts,
AID cuts, firing the guy in charge of his election
integrity office because he won't say twenty twenty was rigged,
Terraff related market collapse, America no longer being seen as
a safe place, the third term, talk suing.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
The media, Andrew Tate. I mean, I could just keep.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Ongoing interesting, Bill, But don't forget that Bill Maher was
very honest about his time with Trump.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Remember this.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
He's much more self aware and he lets on in public.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner
with a comedian.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
It matters who he is on the world stage.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists,
because everything I've ever not liked about him was I
swear to God absent at least on this night with
this guy. Bob kid Rock told me the night before,
he said, if you want to get a word in edgewise,
you're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
He'll just go on not at all.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Now, this is all fun material for Mar, but he
can't honestly think that Trump is a dictator or even
wants to be. What's interesting is that Mar admitted in
that meeting with Trump he saw a different man. He
saw a sensible, rational guy. So he knows, in his
heart of hearts, Trump is not a dictator.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Nor does he want to be.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
What Mar wants is for Trump's supporters to admit that
there is some turbulence, and okay, sure there is. That's
going to happen anytime. It's never smooth when you fight
with China. But if he doesn't do it, if Trump
doesn't take China to the man, who's going to do it.
Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, The chet GPT action
figures have more of a spine than the politicians that
(44:14):
they represent, and Mar wasn't the only one to go
scorched to earth on Trump. Host John Stewart also went
on a tirad let's have a look at that. Donald
Trump's ratings are eleven points underwater.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
He's not afraid of being underwater because he's equipped.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
With a flotation unit, protective.
Speaker 12 (44:36):
A flotation unit, protective accessory or football.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
He's a football.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
He went dark for ten minutes. That's a bit odd,
is it not? Why because he was going off on Trump?
Speaker 9 (44:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Just seems odd to me. So that's another guy that
went off on Trump. But alas everyone, what you've been
waiting for. Really, Kamala Harris has returned to the scene
in a very cringe worthy way. Just when you thought
she was done cackling and laughing and serving up that
good word salad, chef, Kamala came back for more.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Let's have a look.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
You have a special role to play.
Speaker 13 (45:32):
Organizing is as important as ever, Mobilizing is as important
as ever. Running for office is as important as ever.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Running for president is as important as ever. Did you
get anything from that? She's still doing the same routine.
Well there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Kamala Harris,
your former nominee for the President of the United States, Well,
there you have it.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
And when we come back.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
We'll have a little more of some interesting choice words
from ilan Omar when we come back.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Representative illan Omar has been a divisive figure in certainly
a Gaza and Hamas sympathist, but recently she had some
choice words for a reporter from the Daily Caller about
visiting El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Let's have a look at that, Congress and Omar. I'm
Miles Morrell with the Daily Caller News Foundation. Do you
think more of your.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Democratic College should be traveling to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
To advocate on behalf of a vinego Garcia.
Speaker 11 (46:44):
I think you should.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congress should you?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Why me?
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I'm not thinking get any of my questions right now, but.
Speaker 8 (46:53):
Here you go.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Uh yeah, thanks, We'll have some news for you. Miss
Omar should go to El Salvador. For everyone out there
that sympathizes with Hamas, MS thirteen trained, the Arragua and
other areas and groups that hate us, why don't you
just go on a vacation there, try it out, give
it a shot. When these telemarketers call you and say
you've won a vacation, let's give some R and R
(47:15):
to elan Omar for a vacation for two to l
Salvador and Gaza. It's at that point that I don't
think she'd be the one telling anyone to f off.
In fact, I think it would be the residence of
that area telling her to f off. You know, women's
rights are not too championed over there in the Arab world,
nor are they too championed in the ranks of Latin
American gangs.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
See, this is the unfortunate barb of free speech.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
You can say anything you want, but you better be
careful what you say lest you look like a fool.
And sadly, elan Omer continues to look like a fool.
She's like what Senator John Kennedy said about aoc it's operation.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Let her talk, so let them talk.
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