October 16, 2025 • 34 mins
SEGMENT 1: JOHN BOLTON INDICTED ON 18 COUNTS
SEGMENT 2: DEMOCRATS WON'T LET TRANS ISSUE GO
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
S.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the program. This, of course is Stinchfield tonight.
So great to have you along with me today. We
are well into the season of exposure. I actually like
to call it the season of retribution. I am so
happy to tell you tonight that the National Security Advisor
John Bolton has now been charged with eighteen counts of
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sharing thousands of pages of classified information, many of them
marked top secret.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Who did he share this information to?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Two individuals labeled in this indictment and I have read
through the twenty six page in indictment. These two individuals
appear to be his editors. The problem is in the indictment.
It's not that this was for his book. This was
information outside of what he published in the book, very
sensitive information.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Let me go through some of it.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It was intelligence about future attacks. It was foreign adversaries,
future missile attacks. All of this compromising national security the
United States of America. There was intel on foreign adversaries
in many respects, and it revealed human intelligence operations and
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sensitive sources and methods. To me what is spelled out
in this indictment, I believe there were people put at risk,
Americans put at risk because John Bolton decided to share
this information, maybe for a book.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Maybe it was his editors.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It does it mat or imagine if those editors were compromised.
Now through all of this in emails to these individuals
one and two, he basically acknowledges what he was doing
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is Attorney Mike Davis.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's damning for John Bolton in this indictment is they
go through in this indictment to show his knowledge and intent.
They go through and quote John Bolton in the past
for when he's talked about how doing the very things
he allegedly did here is a very serious national security crime, espionage.
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And they go through these documents, and some of these
documents are top secret.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So they spell it out that Bolton was well aware.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's what Mike Davis is saying here, that he was
well aware of exactly what.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
He was doing.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Now, many of the liberals will go back to President Trump,
all this is retribution. Well, it's only retribution, But on
top of the retribution, it happens to be a man who,
in my opinion, sure looks like he's broken the law
according to this indictment. Now I know from sources very
close to President Trump that the only thing President Trump
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directed the DOJ to do is go after those people who.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Broke the law.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Beyond that, the DOJ was completely on its own. Here
here's President Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It was just indicted by Granduria and Maryland.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You have a reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I didn't know that you told me for the first time.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
But I think he's, you know, a bad person.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think he's a bad guy.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad, but it's the
way it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well. He was a warmonger, and I believe John Bolton
was one of the crew that was that was there
to try to sink President Trump along the way. Now,
maybe the most damaging in all of this is that
the mainstream liberal corporate media seems to see what I see,
that this indictment is most certainly legit.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
This from CNN, and that is the sort of thing
that the Justice Department does say frequently, not just in
the climate of a Trump administration, that that's something that
you should not do. We have seen many charges like
this before of other high ranking officials.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All Right, so I'm not an attorney, but I can
tell you I've read through a lot of indictments. This
one's twenty six pages long. It seems to use John
Bolton's own words against him. Clearly, the DOJ spells out
they have the documents that show this is classified information
being pushed out to someone, to people who shouldn't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What's the chance of a conviction? How strong is this case?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I want to bring in now, twenty year defensive attorney
Sam Rjowski is with us.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sam, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, it's great to have you on. Sam.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I imagine you've had a chance to read through this
in indictment, and I'll just ask you flat out, what's
your thoughts on it.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
My first impression reading this is it is a very
quality a piece of work. I mean, the prosecutors here
took time to outline everything that they had and to
the extent that they're obligated to be truthful in their
representations to the court. I think this is damning. I
think they've gotten dead to rights, you know, going through this.
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It's a methodical takedown of someone who thought for a
long time he was untouchable, he was above the law,
he could do things by the way. Bolton has a
history of criticizing Trump and his handling of classified documents, so.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This to me.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
I mean, I see a conviction happening here if these
facts are as alleged and they're able to demonstrate so
in court.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, Bolton's in real trouble.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
One of the things that prosecutors did in this indictment
Bold that always been claiming that, oh, I got all
of this stuff for approval, this was for the book. Well,
they make a point of spelling out that much of
what's in this indictment did not end up in the book,
and that is not what was approved by the DJ
and the federal government.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Your thoughts on that, Well, that's exactly right, and that's
going to be you know, that's something that they they
have have mentioned. But there clearly that you know, there
was I guess there was a Google you know, document page,
and an Aol account and all these non secure uh
you know systems that they were transmitting thousands of pages
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of critically sensitive information that had then, if you'll recall,
was hacked by the Iranians in twenty twenty one and
created a huge problem for the US. You know, the
the the investigation into this didn't begin with Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It began.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It began under.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Biden and the Biden people were looking at this, but
they they held it under ramps because Bolton was a
useful tool for them to fight Trump, so they you know,
this scandal goes such a political story. If the prosecution
got political in any way, it was the lack of
prosecution under the Biden administration of Bolton. Otherwise, this is
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all very straightforward, Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
One of the things that I noticed in this is
that Bolton kept what he called a diary, and he
would send these diary entries. And in the diary entries
was the release of classified information? Am I right in
believing that if you take something out of a classified
document and you would handwrite it, share that with somebody else,
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that's the same equivalent of sharing a classified document.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
That is absolutely correct. So the law does not specify
that you have to reproduce exactly the same document in
its original form, with its original classifications. You could tell somebody,
you could You could be at a bar, you know,
and turn to the person next to you and share
what you read in a classified document, And that in
and of itself is a problem removing documents, transcribing anything
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that all of this is obviously is covered by that statute.
So I that that that defense isn't going to go
very far.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
All Right, real quick, I'm gonna play Andrew McCabe. This
guy's a bad actor, but even he surprises me here
with his assessment of this case.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Check this out from his position, was certainly in a
position to know that that the substance of that material
was classified and sending it to person one in person
two over unauthorized systems, open email systems like AOL and
Google things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So that allegation alone.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
In parts a great deal of intent. It's gonna be
hard for uh, mister Bolton to argue that those transmissions
were inadvertent or that he didn't know that he was
mishandling classified or national defense information.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
All right, So, Sam, that's Andrew McKay. That's a very
bad actor from the old FBI. I'll give you the
last word here. Where do you think this goes? Well?
Speaker 8 (09:16):
I always get nervous when I agree with Andrew McKay,
But I mean I agree with him, and so do you.
But I would add, just as a lawyer, that you
know your assessment of it earlier in your opening monologue
was even more on the nose. Bolton acknowledges openly that
what he's doing is wrong. And we lawyers we call
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this men's rea. It's the consciousness of guilt, and he
expresses it and it's there.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I mean it.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Honestly, this couldn't be a better case to bring on
charges like these.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I'll tell you, it's like bittersweet justice when some
of these people start to fall because they were so
evil against President Trump. They had their own agenda, they
were pushing them so elves. They had self interest far
above national interest and certainly above President Trump's interest. And
so to me, I can only smile when something like
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this happens on a daylight today. Thank you so much
for coming on tonight. I know we called you a
short notice, Sam, but it's always great to see you.
Always good to deal with you.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Grant, Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All right now I want to turn to maybe one
of the most astonishing ice arrests yet. This is an
illegal alien who happened to be a police officer with
the Hanover Park Police Department, a suburb of Chicago. That's right,
the illegal alien happened to be a police officer. We
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would never have known about this if it wasn't for
Ben Berkwam and his fabulous reporting for real America's voice.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Here's Ben.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Apparently this gentleman here, he's a police officer at Hanover.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
The police department just outside of Chicago. Is here illegally
over states visa. How he got a job as a
police officer here? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Crazy is an understatement.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So he overstayed his visa by ten years years twenty fifteen,
it expired, and somehow he gets a job as a cop.
He says he loves America. I'm actually sure that the
man probably does. But you can't have this going on. Ben,
in his great work, he actually sat down and talked
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to this officer or slash illegal alien over state a visa. So, hola,
have you been a police officer?
Speaker 11 (11:37):
Generates generate?
Speaker 12 (11:41):
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You had to get.
Speaker 10 (11:47):
Just to confirm that too, So they hired you on
Uh you had work authorization correct, and.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You were able to carry a firearm.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
No, so on duty you could carry a fire.
Speaker 13 (12:03):
Instead of ILLINOI you need a food and but on
duty you could correct.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, so hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The police said on duty he could carry a firearm
because he's not an American citizen or a permanent resident
in the United States. The only two ways you're allowed
to carry a firearm under the Constitution, so these a
holder can't, so he has to check his firearm in
his locker. I mean, how does somebody who overstays his
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visa even get hired? Well, I want to bring in
now who is live in Chicago, Rav correspondent, the band
who broke the story that everybody is following now, Ben Berke,
one is with us.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Ben, It's always great to have you on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
It's great to be with you. Grant. Yeah, pretty wild thing.
Speaker 13 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
We had a crazy ride yesterday, ten arrests, including that one.
But when man when we got him, I was like,
this is nuts. This is absolutely insane, and it just
makes you think how many more are not just in Illinois,
but across America.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
All Right, Ben, I know that many instance shields arm.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We We're gonna probably say I'm crazy, But part of
me feels bad for the guy because I actually believe
him what he tells you. He loves America. But you
can't do this. This isn't the way to do it.
How do you let it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Go for ten years?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Am I totally off base? So you agree with me?
Ben helped me here.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I mean I look at
this guy. He came over apparently when he was fifteen.
You know, he says he loves America. Look, the people
I blame in this are just like with the open borders.
I blame the people that set the policies that allow
this to happen, a police department that doesn't check that.
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Now he's saying he had work authorization. So then if
that's true, who at USCIS gave him that work authorization?
If it's visa, if he had overstayed his visa, he
was here illegally, how did he get work authorization?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So that's question one.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
Secondarily, if he didn't have work authorisation, how did he
get that job?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
How did that police department not find out?
Speaker 10 (14:04):
And honestly, Grant, I believe that there is either will
for ignorance or worse than that, there's a corruption at
a level where they don't care if they hire illegals
in places like Illinois, in places like Massachusetts, and places
like California, I honestly think they probably want to hire illegals.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I mean that's the sense you get.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Illegals are are almost special classes of citizens in these
radical leftist cities and states.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Then it's it's a stunning story, to say the least.
I was watching your your ex post on this and
you talk to ICE agents. I almost got the feeling
that there were somewhat stunned about this as well.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Let me play a clip from one of.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The ICE agents you talked to about this and then
get your response.
Speaker 10 (14:53):
Basically, what you're saying is they can't control themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you got to move me away from the situation.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You can play about.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, no, I came up because this.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Is this was blocked off. I just wanted to let
I know that we support him. All right, God bless I,
God bless blood.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That wasn't the right sound.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But let's go to cut three guys, please, thank thank you, Hoola.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Have you been a police officer?
Speaker 13 (15:14):
Gary?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Gary?
Speaker 12 (15:18):
They still cannot ignore the fact that he was overstayed.
That's a federal statue. So whether or not they came
up where they missed it or whatever, I'm not blaming them,
but it was missed, right, so we need to do something.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
We've confirmed that, so he's he's overstay correct.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Wow, Ben, were they in shock by all of this too?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Well, look, these guys are battling enemies within our country,
like Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson, who are openly attacking them.
In fact, the mayor of Aurora, Illinois, yesterday sent out
an email openly calling for insurrection, calling for violence in
the streets, and and for attacking ice officers and docking
ice officers. So they're used to being attacked by these
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leftist politicians. But to see this and you know, it's tough.
You could see it was tough for a lot of them.
It's like, man, this guy wants to be a cop.
He seems to be legitimate. You feel that sense of
camaraderie in a sense, because all these guys put their
lives on the line every single day, every cop does.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
But you also got that sense like it's not right.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
I mean the fact that he can't legally own a
firearm in America, yet we're gonna give him a firearm.
And he hasn't sworn allegiance to this nation, yet he's
going to dictate to the citizens in his community what
the constitution is and how to follow it and follow
the law. I mean, all of this stuff. None of
it makes sense. So you could tell they were really disappointed.
In particular in the law of enforcement agency and really
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in just the state in general.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
But it begs the question, Grant.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
What I keep coming back to is, Look, this guy
may be a really nice guy. He may have done
it for all the right reasons. It may have been
the system that screwed him up. But how many people
know this? If you're a gee hottist and you know
the laws of Illinois, why wouldn't you do the same thing,
or in California, be a court in Massachusetts. We are
setting we're setting ourselves up for such a disaster in
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this nation. And that's where the fault needs to squarely
lie at these departments and at these states that have
enacted these insane laws that would allow this in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a great point.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I would also put some culpability on this officer
who was just arrested. He should have gotten this stuff
shaped a long time ago, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And when you sit on things, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Ben.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
This was a you know, you always.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Got great reports. We always love having you on, but
this this one was an eye popper. Thank you, my friend, as.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Always, Yeah, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
God bless you absolutely And you know this goes to
the Ice agents. I tell you, every day, all they
are doing are enforcing the law. This wasn't about enforcing
the law. They wouldn't have arrested this guy. They would
have said, he that's one of us, will go on.
But no, it's the law and that's what they do.
They go arrest people who are breaking it. Now, I
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want to turn to a guy who hates cops, and
he made it clear.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
He hates cops.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
In fact, this guy would rather support Hamas than police
officers in New York City. He'd rather arrest bb net
and Yahoo and President Trump than arrest Hamas leaders. I'm
talking about the wacky communist Mam Donnie, who's running for
mayor of New York.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Now there's a big debate tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Cuomo, Mom Donnie and Curtis Sleewa, the Republican. But this
was Mom Dannie on Fox yesterday.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their
weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?
Speaker 13 (18:44):
I believe that any future here in New York City
is one that we have to make sure that's affordable
for all, and as it pertains to Israel and Palestine,
that we have to ensure that there's peace and that
is the future that we have to fight for.
Speaker 14 (18:54):
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their
arms and give up leadership in Gaza.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas
and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and
the fact that anything has to abide by international law.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So again, this guy is a full on anti semit
that is clear. He hats cops. All he wants to
do is raise taxes on quote the wealthy to spend
more money in a city that is already facing an
eight point five billion dollar deficit by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's New York City.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I want to bring in now, founder of Pinion Enterprises,
stand up New Yorker, former candidate for the United States
Senate in New York's opinion is with me, Joe, Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 15 (19:38):
Always good to be with you, my friend. Again, strange
times we're living in here.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It sure is, Joe. This debate is huge tonight. Look,
I despise Cuomo. I think Cuomo was a serial killer.
But when he put all those COVID folks back into
nursing homes and all this, you got Curtis Sliwa. I
love Curtis Sliwa.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I'm not convinced he can win. I want him to,
but I'm not convinced he can win.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
How do you look at this race, this debate tonight,
How important.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is it look?
Speaker 15 (20:08):
I think the reality is Curtisly is a great New Yorker,
a man who has dedicated his life to the betterment
of quality of life for the people to call New
York home. I think that the voters of New York
have to realize that this is bigger than curtisly what
it is bigger than Andrew Cuomo. People have to figure
out how to unite behind one person to ensure that
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a man who wants to arrest the prime Minister of
Israel and somehow thinks that we should make rap songs
about people that give money to Hamas does not become
the leader of a city of such great importance. And
so that to me is hopefully what can begin to
come out of this debate, that Andrew Cuomo, whether you
hate him or love him, can begin to put a
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light on these atrocities.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
All right, tell me if I'm crazy here, Joe So,
I grew up in an erand New York City. I
worked in New York City for a long time. They're
a nine to eleven. I love this city, even though
I've watched it become just a hell hole. I'm at
the point if Curtis Leewa cannot win, I can't stand Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't think the guy's legit.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'd almost rather have Mam Donnie win, just to show
New Yorkers how bad things are gonna get, show the
rest of the country how bad things are gonna get.
You want a guy like that, well we'll give you
a guy like that. Watch your city go in the tank.
I don't know, am I maybe like the worst attitude
to have on this look.
Speaker 15 (21:38):
I have heard this kind of rumination from some of
my friends, and I followed the logic in practice. Though
that assumes that we get to watch Mom Dommi crash
out and burn. The truth is that that is likely
not what's going to happen. There is no political will
on the New York City Council to prevent him from
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implementing many of the crazy ideas that he wants to
bring into fruition. So it's not as if he's just
going to become a figurehead talking about dangerous ideas. He
is going to be the mayor of New York City
implementing these ideas.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Joe. My point is, though, that if they implement these ideas,
new York City crashes. The rich people that drive that city,
that employ people, they leave, They go to Texas. You're
already seeing many of these investment backs moving to Texas
and Florida. The city will collapse. Forget about Mamdonni collapsing.
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The city will collapse. Do we use as an example? Now,
I would say we could use La as an example,
but that doesn't work with liberals either.
Speaker 15 (22:40):
Well, look, I think you can point to La, you
can point to Chicago. People have seen this. I think
what is the cost of allowing New York City to
implode in such a manner? Sure, it could be a
shining example on a hill of what goes wrong when
you place your hands in the trust of the next
generation of democratics. But the history that is New York
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that is in many ways embedded in what is happening
here in our country, it is hard to recover from that.
It is hard to turn that around. The decades, the
centuries that it might take for New York to make
such a full return from that I think can't really
be quantified. So yes, I think in practice, America will
not come to an end if Mom Donnie is mayor.
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But trying to rebuild New York into what we know
it to be and what we love, I think could
take many, many years that we simply don't have, and
I think the people can't afford.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
All Right, real quick, I mean I can't even believe
I'm asking Joe opinion if he would support Cuomo over Sliwa,
But would you?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is that what you're recommending people to do.
Speaker 15 (23:45):
I mean, look, I'm not currently living in New York City,
thank the good Lord. I think people have to search
their hearts. Certainly I can say from my own family.
I mean, my grandmother, she died that over one hundred
years on this earth, but I believe would have had
fourteen more months for her if we didn't have the
ridiculous lockdowns, if we didn't have these policies in the
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nursing homes in New York States. So I don't know
what I would be doing if it came to me
going into that voting booth, But I do think that
people need to seriously ask themselves the question when they
walk into that booth.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Is the bubble that I.
Speaker 15 (24:18):
Am filling in going to be the person that can win?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And if on.
Speaker 15 (24:22):
Election day, if all the data says that person can't win,
making yourself feel good is not what's in the best
interest of your family or the city.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, Joe, I appreciate your insight, I really do, and
I trust your judgment on things like this, which is
why I bring you on the program.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's always great having you on. Thank you, my friend.
Appreciation my friend talks to you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Absolutely, And so look, I want Curtis Leeway to win.
That's why I want to win for New York.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They have elections for a reason. Strange things can happen.
Is he the underdog?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Absolutely, But I'm still praying somehow Curtis Lee will pulse
this out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, folks, just a quick note.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
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This is the height of lunacy. That's next.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Welcome back everyone. The battle over common sense continues.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wait till you hear this story.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So two boys in a Louden County of Virginia high
school a girl pretending to be a boy. They call
them a transgender. I don't know if you call the
transgender boy or girl. I don't know, but she's a
biological girl. Going into a boy's locker room, she starts
videotaping the boys, and the boys say this is out
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of control.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We don't want the girl in our locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Guess who gets suspended from school in Louden County, which
happens to be ground zero for the transgender lunacy. The
boys get suspended for not being tolerant, so the boys
who the school. Good news is Judge says the boys
can go back to school after being suspended, but they
were also forced to post a one hundred and twenty
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five thousand dollars bond in case they lose the case
so they could pay the defendants' legal fees in this
the school district. This is insanity. Well, one of the
fathers of the boys was on with Laura Ingram last night.
Speaker 16 (27:11):
It's slow and steady, but we're trying to get into
this fight and do the best we can. So we've
set up some donation page and we're just hoping that
we can get the community to stand behind us because
it's almost impossible to raise this money in the amount
of time that they've given us.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Well, miraculously they raised the money, and I believe a
lot of it had to do with Laura Ingram show
the Gifts Send Go platform that they have. They raised
one hundred and twenty five thousand, so this case can
now continue. This is the attorney for the boys who
literally lays out what this case is all about.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
But look, the bottom line here is this is not
Title nine. Title nine is sexual harassment. We all know
what sexual harassment is. You know, Louden County Public Schools
had one hundred and fifty nine Title nine complaints, and
they did zero on one hundred and fifty nine their
own internal report found. Now they come here and find
Title nine violations against boys for merely expressing discomfort with
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a girl in the boys locker room. We know exactly
why they did that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's all politically motivated, of course it is.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And as I mentioned, Loudon County is ground zero for
all of this. What is driving this? I mean, the
lack of common sense here is just outrageous. And it's
happening all across the country. I do believe though people
are waking up to this. One reason they're waking up
to this is because of groups like Moms for Liberty.
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I want to bring in now the co founder Tina
Dskovich of Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Tina, it's great to have you on the program.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
Thank you, it's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Tina. We hear stories like this, I mean, are you
kidding me? You suspend the boys? How does this happen?
And you know it is? Are these types of stories
one place?
Speaker 14 (29:02):
Yeah, we see these things happening all across the country,
and it happens because we don't pay attention to school
board races. That's something Moms for the Briddy puts a
big focus on. Before I launched Moms for the Riddy,
I was a school board member myself from twenty sixteen
to twenty twenty, and it was so hard to get
people engaged in school board elections understanding school issues, and
it's it's really unfortunate because it's the largest part of
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most communities budgets, and so there's a lot of work
still to be done in America to make sure people
are awake electing good people to these school boards so
we can avoid these situations altogether.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
All right, let me play a clip from a recorded
video that was inside that locker room when the boys
were there being videotaped by this girl. How that is
even acceptable? I have no idea, but take a listen
to this female. All right, So, Tina, they say it's uncomfortable, Bro,
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she's a female, Get out of here?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Now? Is that intolerant?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I can only imagine if it was a female in
there and there's a boy in the girl's locker room
that I think the girls would be entitled to say
something like that.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
Actually, girls are not entitled these days to say something
like that either. Look, I'm a mom of boys myself,
and they absolutely would be uncomfortable with females in their
locker room. And so my heart goes out to them.
This is nonsense that's happening in America, and Mom's Liberty
is ready to stand with these boys and all children
across America, boys and girls that deserve to have privacy
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and safe spaces.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
All right, what do you tell parents out there? Did
you expect to be in this position of leading moms
for liberty? It's one of the top two or three
of the groups of moms out there, the mom of
bears as we call them. Did you expect to be here?
Speaker 13 (30:55):
No?
Speaker 14 (30:55):
Absolutely not. When we launched in January of twenty twenty one,
I actually wrote a five of your business plan that
included in five years we would maybe cover the state
of Florida. And here we are across the country. Now
we're in forty eight states. We have three hundred and
twenty chapters that each cover a county. We have one
hundred and thirty thousand active members, you know, another half
a million or something on our mail list, and so
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I couldn't have imagined this in my wildest dreams. But
it's it's very sad that it's needed. I would love
to get to the point where Moms for Liberty is
not needed to be watchdogs on the school boards because
we elect good school board members and we have good
people in office that want to protect children instead of
putting them in hard's way.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, Tina, it's great having you on the program.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I appreciate all the work that you and Moms for
Liberty does out there, and I appreciate you coming on.
Thank you, Thank you for the time. Absolutely so, folks,
I want to talk about common sense. It's not just
school boards, which Tina is correct. I mean that's one
of the most important positions when you talk about elected
leaders that will directly affect how your children grow and prosper.
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But it's also at other levels. You have this woman
out there, her name is Betty Yee. She is running
for California governor. And this woman has no chance of
winning the California governor see when Gavin Newsom gives it up,
but the Olympics are coming to California. You want to
hear what she has to say about all of this.
Take a listen, cut one, please, But my question is
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whether you think they should compete in women's sport and
the Olympics because it's coming to LA, so it's relevant.
I think transgender female athletes are women athletes and they
should be able to Really, no, they're not. They're not
women athletes. They're men pretending to be women. Now that's California.
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What about Virginia. You've got basically the same situation there,
Abigail Spaanberger. She basically claims that women should be men
should be completing in women's sports, But when you get
on the debate stage, she refuses to answer the question.
Speaker 11 (33:04):
Cut three, should transgender girls who are biological males be
allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play on girls sports teams?
You have sixty seconds.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools
and nothing is more important to me than their safety.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So answer basically, the moderator asks, again, roll it.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
See an effort carried on continually by this dispoundation.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are
biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play
on girl sports teams? In K through twelve. You have
fifteen seconds to clarify.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents
and educators and administrators in each low community to make
decisions locally.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh, the folks makes your head spin. So these are
important elections at every level. All right, folks, letsten to
make Democrats refuse to deal with Republicans over a standalone
Obamacare provision to end the shutdown. We will talk about
that next. And we are on turning Point USA. Watch
a great event in Oklahoma which we will bring to
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you live. That too, is moments away.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Stick with me,
S.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the program. This, of course is Stinchfield tonight.
So great to have you along with me today. We
are well into the season of exposure. I actually like
to call it the season of retribution. I am so
happy to tell you tonight that the National Security Advisor
John Bolton has now been charged with eighteen counts of
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sharing thousands of pages of classified information, many of them
marked top secret.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Who did he share this information to?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Two individuals labeled in this indictment and I have read
through the twenty six page in indictment. These two individuals
appear to be his editors. The problem is in the indictment.
It's not that this was for his book. This was
information outside of what he published in the book, very
sensitive information.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Let me go through some of it.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It was intelligence about future attacks. It was foreign adversaries,
future missile attacks. All of this compromising national security the
United States of America. There was intel on foreign adversaries
in many respects, and it revealed human intelligence operations and
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sensitive sources and methods. To me what is spelled out
in this indictment, I believe there were people put at risk,
Americans put at risk because John Bolton decided to share
this information, maybe for a book.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Maybe it was his editors.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It does it mat or imagine if those editors were compromised.
Now through all of this in emails to these individuals
one and two, he basically acknowledges what he was doing
was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is Attorney Mike Davis.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
What's damning for John Bolton in this indictment is they
go through in this indictment to show his knowledge and intent.
They go through and quote John Bolton in the past
for when he's talked about how doing the very things
he allegedly did here is a very serious national security crime, espionage.
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And they go through these documents, and some of these
documents are top secret.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So they spell it out that Bolton was well aware.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's what Mike Davis is saying here, that he was
well aware of exactly what.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
He was doing.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Now, many of the liberals will go back to President Trump,
all this is retribution. Well, it's only retribution, But on
top of the retribution, it happens to be a man who,
in my opinion, sure looks like he's broken the law
according to this indictment. Now I know from sources very
close to President Trump that the only thing President Trump
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directed the DOJ to do is go after those people who.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Broke the law.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Beyond that, the DOJ was completely on its own. Here
here's President Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It was just indicted by Granduria and Maryland.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You have a reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I didn't know that you told me for the first time.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
But I think he's, you know, a bad person.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think he's a bad guy.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad, but it's the
way it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well. He was a warmonger, and I believe John Bolton
was one of the crew that was that was there
to try to sink President Trump along the way. Now,
maybe the most damaging in all of this is that
the mainstream liberal corporate media seems to see what I see,
that this indictment is most certainly legit.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
This from CNN, and that is the sort of thing
that the Justice Department does say frequently, not just in
the climate of a Trump administration, that that's something that
you should not do. We have seen many charges like
this before of other high ranking officials.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All Right, so I'm not an attorney, but I can
tell you I've read through a lot of indictments. This
one's twenty six pages long. It seems to use John
Bolton's own words against him. Clearly, the DOJ spells out
they have the documents that show this is classified information
being pushed out to someone, to people who shouldn't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What's the chance of a conviction? How strong is this case?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I want to bring in now, twenty year defensive attorney
Sam Rjowski is with us.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sam, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, it's great to have you on. Sam.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I imagine you've had a chance to read through this
in indictment, and I'll just ask you flat out, what's
your thoughts on it.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
My first impression reading this is it is a very
quality a piece of work. I mean, the prosecutors here
took time to outline everything that they had and to
the extent that they're obligated to be truthful in their
representations to the court. I think this is damning. I
think they've gotten dead to rights, you know, going through this.
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It's a methodical takedown of someone who thought for a
long time he was untouchable, he was above the law,
he could do things by the way. Bolton has a
history of criticizing Trump and his handling of classified documents, so.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This to me.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
I mean, I see a conviction happening here if these
facts are as alleged and they're able to demonstrate so
in court.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, Bolton's in real trouble.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
One of the things that prosecutors did in this indictment
Bold that always been claiming that, oh, I got all
of this stuff for approval, this was for the book. Well,
they make a point of spelling out that much of
what's in this indictment did not end up in the book,
and that is not what was approved by the DJ
and the federal government.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Your thoughts on that, Well, that's exactly right, and that's
going to be you know, that's something that they they
have have mentioned. But there clearly that you know, there
was I guess there was a Google you know, document page,
and an Aol account and all these non secure uh
you know systems that they were transmitting thousands of pages
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of critically sensitive information that had then, if you'll recall,
was hacked by the Iranians in twenty twenty one and
created a huge problem for the US. You know, the
the the investigation into this didn't begin with Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It began.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It began under.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Biden and the Biden people were looking at this, but
they they held it under ramps because Bolton was a
useful tool for them to fight Trump, so they you know,
this scandal goes such a political story. If the prosecution
got political in any way, it was the lack of
prosecution under the Biden administration of Bolton. Otherwise, this is
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all very straightforward, Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
One of the things that I noticed in this is
that Bolton kept what he called a diary, and he
would send these diary entries. And in the diary entries
was the release of classified information? Am I right in
believing that if you take something out of a classified
document and you would handwrite it, share that with somebody else,
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that's the same equivalent of sharing a classified document.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
That is absolutely correct. So the law does not specify
that you have to reproduce exactly the same document in
its original form, with its original classifications. You could tell somebody,
you could You could be at a bar, you know,
and turn to the person next to you and share
what you read in a classified document, And that in
and of itself is a problem removing documents, transcribing anything
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that all of this is obviously is covered by that statute.
So I that that that defense isn't going to go
very far.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
All Right, real quick, I'm gonna play Andrew McCabe. This
guy's a bad actor, but even he surprises me here
with his assessment of this case.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Check this out from his position, was certainly in a
position to know that that the substance of that material
was classified and sending it to person one in person
two over unauthorized systems, open email systems like AOL and
Google things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So that allegation alone.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
In parts a great deal of intent. It's gonna be
hard for uh, mister Bolton to argue that those transmissions
were inadvertent or that he didn't know that he was
mishandling classified or national defense information.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
All right, So, Sam, that's Andrew McKay. That's a very
bad actor from the old FBI. I'll give you the
last word here. Where do you think this goes? Well?
Speaker 8 (09:16):
I always get nervous when I agree with Andrew McKay,
But I mean I agree with him, and so do you.
But I would add, just as a lawyer, that you
know your assessment of it earlier in your opening monologue
was even more on the nose. Bolton acknowledges openly that
what he's doing is wrong. And we lawyers we call
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this men's rea. It's the consciousness of guilt, and he
expresses it and it's there.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I mean it.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Honestly, this couldn't be a better case to bring on
charges like these.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I'll tell you, it's like bittersweet justice when some
of these people start to fall because they were so
evil against President Trump. They had their own agenda, they
were pushing them so elves. They had self interest far
above national interest and certainly above President Trump's interest. And
so to me, I can only smile when something like
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this happens on a daylight today. Thank you so much
for coming on tonight. I know we called you a
short notice, Sam, but it's always great to see you.
Always good to deal with you.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Grant, Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All right now I want to turn to maybe one
of the most astonishing ice arrests yet. This is an
illegal alien who happened to be a police officer with
the Hanover Park Police Department, a suburb of Chicago. That's right,
the illegal alien happened to be a police officer. We
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would never have known about this if it wasn't for
Ben Berkwam and his fabulous reporting for real America's voice.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Here's Ben.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Apparently this gentleman here, he's a police officer at Hanover.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
The police department just outside of Chicago. Is here illegally
over states visa. How he got a job as a
police officer here? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Crazy is an understatement.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So he overstayed his visa by ten years years twenty fifteen,
it expired, and somehow he gets a job as a cop.
He says he loves America. I'm actually sure that the
man probably does. But you can't have this going on. Ben,
in his great work, he actually sat down and talked
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to this officer or slash illegal alien over state a visa. So, hola,
have you been a police officer?
Speaker 11 (11:37):
Generates generate?
Speaker 12 (11:41):
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You had to get.
Speaker 10 (11:47):
Just to confirm that too, So they hired you on
Uh you had work authorization correct, and.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You were able to carry a firearm.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
No, so on duty you could carry a fire.
Speaker 13 (12:03):
Instead of ILLINOI you need a food and but on
duty you could correct.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, so hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The police said on duty he could carry a firearm
because he's not an American citizen or a permanent resident
in the United States. The only two ways you're allowed
to carry a firearm under the Constitution, so these a
holder can't, so he has to check his firearm in
his locker. I mean, how does somebody who overstays his
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visa even get hired? Well, I want to bring in
now who is live in Chicago, Rav correspondent, the band
who broke the story that everybody is following now, Ben Berke,
one is with us.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Ben, It's always great to have you on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
It's great to be with you. Grant. Yeah, pretty wild thing.
Speaker 13 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
We had a crazy ride yesterday, ten arrests, including that one.
But when man when we got him, I was like,
this is nuts. This is absolutely insane, and it just
makes you think how many more are not just in Illinois,
but across America.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
All Right, Ben, I know that many instance shields arm.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We We're gonna probably say I'm crazy, But part of
me feels bad for the guy because I actually believe
him what he tells you. He loves America. But you
can't do this. This isn't the way to do it.
How do you let it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Go for ten years?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Am I totally off base? So you agree with me?
Ben helped me here.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I mean I look at
this guy. He came over apparently when he was fifteen.
You know, he says he loves America. Look, the people
I blame in this are just like with the open borders.
I blame the people that set the policies that allow
this to happen, a police department that doesn't check that.
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Now he's saying he had work authorization. So then if
that's true, who at USCIS gave him that work authorization?
If it's visa, if he had overstayed his visa, he
was here illegally, how did he get work authorization?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So that's question one.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
Secondarily, if he didn't have work authorisation, how did he
get that job?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
How did that police department not find out?
Speaker 10 (14:04):
And honestly, Grant, I believe that there is either will
for ignorance or worse than that, there's a corruption at
a level where they don't care if they hire illegals
in places like Illinois, in places like Massachusetts, and places
like California, I honestly think they probably want to hire illegals.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I mean that's the sense you get.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Illegals are are almost special classes of citizens in these
radical leftist cities and states.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Then it's it's a stunning story, to say the least.
I was watching your your ex post on this and
you talk to ICE agents. I almost got the feeling
that there were somewhat stunned about this as well.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Let me play a clip from one of.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The ICE agents you talked to about this and then
get your response.
Speaker 10 (14:53):
Basically, what you're saying is they can't control themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you got to move me away from the situation.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You can play about.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, no, I came up because this.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Is this was blocked off. I just wanted to let
I know that we support him. All right, God bless I,
God bless blood.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That wasn't the right sound.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But let's go to cut three guys, please, thank thank you, Hoola.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Have you been a police officer?
Speaker 13 (15:14):
Gary?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Gary?
Speaker 12 (15:18):
They still cannot ignore the fact that he was overstayed.
That's a federal statue. So whether or not they came
up where they missed it or whatever, I'm not blaming them,
but it was missed, right, so we need to do something.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
We've confirmed that, so he's he's overstay correct.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Wow, Ben, were they in shock by all of this too?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Well, look, these guys are battling enemies within our country,
like Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson, who are openly attacking them.
In fact, the mayor of Aurora, Illinois, yesterday sent out
an email openly calling for insurrection, calling for violence in
the streets, and and for attacking ice officers and docking
ice officers. So they're used to being attacked by these
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leftist politicians. But to see this and you know, it's tough.
You could see it was tough for a lot of them.
It's like, man, this guy wants to be a cop.
He seems to be legitimate. You feel that sense of
camaraderie in a sense, because all these guys put their
lives on the line every single day, every cop does.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
But you also got that sense like it's not right.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
I mean the fact that he can't legally own a
firearm in America, yet we're gonna give him a firearm.
And he hasn't sworn allegiance to this nation, yet he's
going to dictate to the citizens in his community what
the constitution is and how to follow it and follow
the law. I mean, all of this stuff. None of
it makes sense. So you could tell they were really disappointed.
In particular in the law of enforcement agency and really
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in just the state in general.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
But it begs the question, Grant.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
What I keep coming back to is, Look, this guy
may be a really nice guy. He may have done
it for all the right reasons. It may have been
the system that screwed him up. But how many people
know this? If you're a gee hottist and you know
the laws of Illinois, why wouldn't you do the same thing,
or in California, be a court in Massachusetts. We are
setting we're setting ourselves up for such a disaster in
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this nation. And that's where the fault needs to squarely
lie at these departments and at these states that have
enacted these insane laws that would allow this in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's a great point.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I would also put some culpability on this officer
who was just arrested. He should have gotten this stuff
shaped a long time ago, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
And when you sit on things, bad things happen.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Ben.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
This was a you know, you always.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Got great reports. We always love having you on, but
this this one was an eye popper. Thank you, my friend, as.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Always, Yeah, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
God bless you absolutely And you know this goes to
the Ice agents. I tell you, every day, all they
are doing are enforcing the law. This wasn't about enforcing
the law. They wouldn't have arrested this guy. They would
have said, he that's one of us, will go on.
But no, it's the law and that's what they do.
They go arrest people who are breaking it. Now, I
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want to turn to a guy who hates cops, and
he made it clear.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
He hates cops.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
In fact, this guy would rather support Hamas than police
officers in New York City. He'd rather arrest bb net
and Yahoo and President Trump than arrest Hamas leaders. I'm
talking about the wacky communist Mam Donnie, who's running for
mayor of New York.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Now there's a big debate tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Cuomo, Mom Donnie and Curtis Sleewa, the Republican. But this
was Mom Dannie on Fox yesterday.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
But do you believe that Hamas should lay down their
weapons and leave the leadership in Gaza?
Speaker 13 (18:44):
I believe that any future here in New York City
is one that we have to make sure that's affordable
for all, and as it pertains to Israel and Palestine,
that we have to ensure that there's peace and that
is the future that we have to fight for.
Speaker 14 (18:54):
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their
arms and give up leadership in Gaza.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas
and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety and
the fact that anything has to abide by international law.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So again, this guy is a full on anti semit
that is clear. He hats cops. All he wants to
do is raise taxes on quote the wealthy to spend
more money in a city that is already facing an
eight point five billion dollar deficit by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's New York City.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I want to bring in now, founder of Pinion Enterprises,
stand up New Yorker, former candidate for the United States
Senate in New York's opinion is with me, Joe, Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 15 (19:38):
Always good to be with you, my friend. Again, strange
times we're living in here.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It sure is, Joe. This debate is huge tonight. Look,
I despise Cuomo. I think Cuomo was a serial killer.
But when he put all those COVID folks back into
nursing homes and all this, you got Curtis Sliwa. I
love Curtis Sliwa.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I'm not convinced he can win. I want him to,
but I'm not convinced he can win.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
How do you look at this race, this debate tonight,
How important.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is it look?
Speaker 15 (20:08):
I think the reality is Curtisly is a great New Yorker,
a man who has dedicated his life to the betterment
of quality of life for the people to call New
York home. I think that the voters of New York
have to realize that this is bigger than curtisly what
it is bigger than Andrew Cuomo. People have to figure
out how to unite behind one person to ensure that
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a man who wants to arrest the prime Minister of
Israel and somehow thinks that we should make rap songs
about people that give money to Hamas does not become
the leader of a city of such great importance. And
so that to me is hopefully what can begin to
come out of this debate, that Andrew Cuomo, whether you
hate him or love him, can begin to put a
(20:53):
light on these atrocities.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
All right, tell me if I'm crazy here, Joe So,
I grew up in an erand New York City. I
worked in New York City for a long time. They're
a nine to eleven. I love this city, even though
I've watched it become just a hell hole. I'm at
the point if Curtis Leewa cannot win, I can't stand Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't think the guy's legit.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'd almost rather have Mam Donnie win, just to show
New Yorkers how bad things are gonna get, show the
rest of the country how bad things are gonna get.
You want a guy like that, well we'll give you
a guy like that. Watch your city go in the tank.
I don't know, am I maybe like the worst attitude
to have on this look.
Speaker 15 (21:38):
I have heard this kind of rumination from some of
my friends, and I followed the logic in practice. Though
that assumes that we get to watch Mom Dommi crash
out and burn. The truth is that that is likely
not what's going to happen. There is no political will
on the New York City Council to prevent him from
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implementing many of the crazy ideas that he wants to
bring into fruition. So it's not as if he's just
going to become a figurehead talking about dangerous ideas. He
is going to be the mayor of New York City
implementing these ideas.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Joe. My point is, though, that if they implement these ideas,
new York City crashes. The rich people that drive that city,
that employ people, they leave, They go to Texas. You're
already seeing many of these investment backs moving to Texas
and Florida. The city will collapse. Forget about Mamdonni collapsing.
(22:33):
The city will collapse. Do we use as an example? Now,
I would say we could use La as an example,
but that doesn't work with liberals either.
Speaker 15 (22:40):
Well, look, I think you can point to La, you
can point to Chicago. People have seen this. I think
what is the cost of allowing New York City to
implode in such a manner? Sure, it could be a
shining example on a hill of what goes wrong when
you place your hands in the trust of the next
generation of democratics. But the history that is New York
(23:03):
that is in many ways embedded in what is happening
here in our country, it is hard to recover from that.
It is hard to turn that around. The decades, the
centuries that it might take for New York to make
such a full return from that I think can't really
be quantified. So yes, I think in practice, America will
not come to an end if Mom Donnie is mayor.
(23:24):
But trying to rebuild New York into what we know
it to be and what we love, I think could
take many, many years that we simply don't have, and
I think the people can't afford.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
All Right, real quick, I mean I can't even believe
I'm asking Joe opinion if he would support Cuomo over Sliwa,
But would you?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is that what you're recommending people to do.
Speaker 15 (23:45):
I mean, look, I'm not currently living in New York City,
thank the good Lord. I think people have to search
their hearts. Certainly I can say from my own family.
I mean, my grandmother, she died that over one hundred
years on this earth, but I believe would have had
fourteen more months for her if we didn't have the
ridiculous lockdowns, if we didn't have these policies in the
(24:06):
nursing homes in New York States. So I don't know
what I would be doing if it came to me
going into that voting booth, But I do think that
people need to seriously ask themselves the question when they
walk into that booth.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Is the bubble that I.
Speaker 15 (24:18):
Am filling in going to be the person that can win?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And if on.
Speaker 15 (24:22):
Election day, if all the data says that person can't win,
making yourself feel good is not what's in the best
interest of your family or the city.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, Joe, I appreciate your insight, I really do, and
I trust your judgment on things like this, which is
why I bring you on the program.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's always great having you on. Thank you, my friend.
Appreciation my friend talks to you.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Absolutely, And so look, I want Curtis Leeway to win.
That's why I want to win for New York.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They have elections for a reason. Strange things can happen.
Is he the underdog?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Absolutely, But I'm still praying somehow Curtis Lee will pulse
this out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, folks, just a quick note.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
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you all right. Up next, the family of the Loudun
County boys accused of sexually harassing a transgender girl in
(25:45):
the boys locker room get slap with having to post
a massive bond to keep their lawsuit going.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This is the height of lunacy. That's next.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Welcome back everyone. The battle over common sense continues.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wait till you hear this story.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
So two boys in a Louden County of Virginia high
school a girl pretending to be a boy. They call
them a transgender. I don't know if you call the
transgender boy or girl. I don't know, but she's a
biological girl. Going into a boy's locker room, she starts
videotaping the boys, and the boys say this is out
(26:30):
of control.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We don't want the girl in our locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Guess who gets suspended from school in Louden County, which
happens to be ground zero for the transgender lunacy. The
boys get suspended for not being tolerant, so the boys
who the school. Good news is Judge says the boys
can go back to school after being suspended, but they
were also forced to post a one hundred and twenty
(26:55):
five thousand dollars bond in case they lose the case
so they could pay the defendants' legal fees in this
the school district. This is insanity. Well, one of the
fathers of the boys was on with Laura Ingram last night.
Speaker 16 (27:11):
It's slow and steady, but we're trying to get into
this fight and do the best we can. So we've
set up some donation page and we're just hoping that
we can get the community to stand behind us because
it's almost impossible to raise this money in the amount
of time that they've given us.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Well, miraculously they raised the money, and I believe a
lot of it had to do with Laura Ingram show
the Gifts Send Go platform that they have. They raised
one hundred and twenty five thousand, so this case can
now continue. This is the attorney for the boys who
literally lays out what this case is all about.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
But look, the bottom line here is this is not
Title nine. Title nine is sexual harassment. We all know
what sexual harassment is. You know, Louden County Public Schools
had one hundred and fifty nine Title nine complaints, and
they did zero on one hundred and fifty nine their
own internal report found. Now they come here and find
Title nine violations against boys for merely expressing discomfort with
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a girl in the boys locker room. We know exactly
why they did that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's all politically motivated, of course it is.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And as I mentioned, Loudon County is ground zero for
all of this. What is driving this? I mean, the
lack of common sense here is just outrageous. And it's
happening all across the country. I do believe though people
are waking up to this. One reason they're waking up
to this is because of groups like Moms for Liberty.
(28:39):
I want to bring in now the co founder Tina
Dskovich of Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Tina, it's great to have you on the program.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
Thank you, it's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Tina. We hear stories like this, I mean, are you
kidding me? You suspend the boys? How does this happen?
And you know it is? Are these types of stories
one place?
Speaker 14 (29:02):
Yeah, we see these things happening all across the country,
and it happens because we don't pay attention to school
board races. That's something Moms for the Briddy puts a
big focus on. Before I launched Moms for the Riddy,
I was a school board member myself from twenty sixteen
to twenty twenty, and it was so hard to get
people engaged in school board elections understanding school issues, and
it's it's really unfortunate because it's the largest part of
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most communities budgets, and so there's a lot of work
still to be done in America to make sure people
are awake electing good people to these school boards so
we can avoid these situations altogether.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
All right, let me play a clip from a recorded
video that was inside that locker room when the boys
were there being videotaped by this girl. How that is
even acceptable? I have no idea, but take a listen
to this female. All right, So, Tina, they say it's uncomfortable, Bro,
(30:04):
she's a female, Get out of here?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Now? Is that intolerant?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I can only imagine if it was a female in
there and there's a boy in the girl's locker room
that I think the girls would be entitled to say
something like that.
Speaker 14 (30:18):
Actually, girls are not entitled these days to say something
like that either. Look, I'm a mom of boys myself,
and they absolutely would be uncomfortable with females in their
locker room. And so my heart goes out to them.
This is nonsense that's happening in America, and Mom's Liberty
is ready to stand with these boys and all children
across America, boys and girls that deserve to have privacy
(30:38):
and safe spaces.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
All right, what do you tell parents out there? Did
you expect to be in this position of leading moms
for liberty? It's one of the top two or three
of the groups of moms out there, the mom of
bears as we call them. Did you expect to be here?
Speaker 13 (30:55):
No?
Speaker 14 (30:55):
Absolutely not. When we launched in January of twenty twenty one,
I actually wrote a five of your business plan that
included in five years we would maybe cover the state
of Florida. And here we are across the country. Now
we're in forty eight states. We have three hundred and
twenty chapters that each cover a county. We have one
hundred and thirty thousand active members, you know, another half
a million or something on our mail list, and so
(31:16):
I couldn't have imagined this in my wildest dreams. But
it's it's very sad that it's needed. I would love
to get to the point where Moms for Liberty is
not needed to be watchdogs on the school boards because
we elect good school board members and we have good
people in office that want to protect children instead of
putting them in hard's way.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, Tina, it's great having you on the program.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I appreciate all the work that you and Moms for
Liberty does out there, and I appreciate you coming on.
Thank you, Thank you for the time. Absolutely so, folks,
I want to talk about common sense. It's not just
school boards, which Tina is correct. I mean that's one
of the most important positions when you talk about elected
leaders that will directly affect how your children grow and prosper.
(32:00):
But it's also at other levels. You have this woman
out there, her name is Betty Yee. She is running
for California governor. And this woman has no chance of
winning the California governor see when Gavin Newsom gives it up,
but the Olympics are coming to California. You want to
hear what she has to say about all of this.
Take a listen, cut one, please, But my question is
(32:25):
whether you think they should compete in women's sport and
the Olympics because it's coming to LA, so it's relevant.
I think transgender female athletes are women athletes and they
should be able to Really, no, they're not. They're not
women athletes. They're men pretending to be women. Now that's California.
(32:48):
What about Virginia. You've got basically the same situation there,
Abigail Spaanberger. She basically claims that women should be men
should be completing in women's sports, But when you get
on the debate stage, she refuses to answer the question.
Speaker 11 (33:04):
Cut three, should transgender girls who are biological males be
allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play on girls sports teams?
You have sixty seconds.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools
and nothing is more important to me than their safety.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So answer basically, the moderator asks, again, roll it.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
See an effort carried on continually by this dispoundation.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are
biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play
on girl sports teams? In K through twelve. You have
fifteen seconds to clarify.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents
and educators and administrators in each low community to make
decisions locally.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh, the folks makes your head spin. So these are
important elections at every level. All right, folks, letsten to
make Democrats refuse to deal with Republicans over a standalone
Obamacare provision to end the shutdown. We will talk about
that next. And we are on turning Point USA. Watch
a great event in Oklahoma which we will bring to
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you live. That too, is moments away.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Stick with me,
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