The Charlie Kirk Show, April 9, 2025

Commentary on tariffs, coverage of Brooke Rollins talking to press, mass deportation, sanctuary cities, trade with China, and coverage of Karoline Leavitt and Scott Bessent. 

Guests: Ken Paxton, Mark Krikorian, and Eric Metaxas 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Doze exposed our immigration asylum disaster that was the tip
of the iceberg.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Now here's the story.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dosh has found that Immigration gave a work authorization document
to illegals just five months after they filed for asylum.
That document allowed them to work while they waited to
hear whether their asylum requested being accepted or denied. So
they could work as an illegal. Knowing it would take
years before their case was heard, the Immigration Department mailed

(00:52):
them a social security number, no interview, no proof of
identity to put it in the mail.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Here's your number.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
In twenty twenty one, those says two hundred and seventy
thousand new aliens were issued social security numbers five hundred
and ninety twenty twenty two, nine hundred and sixty four
thousand twenty twenty three, and two point one million in
twenty four right before Biden left office. Dose also discovered
that one point three million aliens are now receiving medicaid,

(01:21):
millions received driver's licenses, some registered to vote, and does
says some actually did vote. Try and square that against
Democrat claims that Musk is destroying social security and cutting
medicaid is not destroying he's weeding out people who don't qualify.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
For too long, financial policy has served large financial institutions
at the expense of smaller ones.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
No more, No more.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
This administration aims to give all banks a chance to succeed,
whether it's JP Morgan or your local mortgage and loan.
It aims to get capped little to Americans who need
it by getting.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Bureaucracy out of the way.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
But for the next four years, the Trump agenda is
focused on main street. It's main streets turn, it's main
streets turn to hire workers, it's main streets turn to
drive investment, and it's main streets turn to restore the
American dream.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Marie, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't want to come
and negotiate because they are the worst defenders in the
international training system. They have the most imbalanced economy in
the history of the modern world. And I can tell
you that this escalation is a loser for them. That
they have some very smart the economists, the academicians, technocrats

(02:47):
within their bureaucracy, and they would be telling the leadership
that we do not have the edge here. They are
the surplus country that their exports to the US are
five times our exports to China, so they can raise
their terrorists.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
But so what.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
One hundred and four percent tariffs in China are not enough.
I'm advocating four hundred percent. I do business in China.
They don't play by the rules. They've been in the
WHO for decades. They have never abided by any of
the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.
They cheat, they steal, they steal ip I can't litigate
in their courts. They take product, technology, they steal it,

(03:29):
they manufacture it and sell it back here. It says
not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on China yet,
not the Europeans, no administration for decades. I have nothing
against the Chinese people. They've brought great literacy, art and
tech to the world. The government cheats and steals, and

(03:51):
finally an administration. You may not like Trump, you may
not like his style or his rhetoric. Finally an administration
that puts up and says enough, He'll tell you what.
She can only stay the supreme leader if people are employed,
if we wipe out any business there, because we are
still thirty nine percent of all consumables on Earth and

(04:15):
twenty five percent of the world's GDP.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
America is the.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Number one economy on Earth with all the cards.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
We will not have that forever.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall. Now, well,
hold on, well, I hear you, But hold on.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
If we're talking about people, the average consumer.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Not necessarily the head honchos of businesses all across the globe.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can they withstand the pressure of that sort of tax.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
On the good land?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
There will be But.

Speaker 9 (04:43):
Yeah, but what's your timeline compared You don't know the
average Americans timeline what they can actually survive.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
There's people right now who can't survive one percent.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Tomorrow morning, cheese on an airplane to Washington to cut
a deal.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information
coming from every angle, but the will to the sea
fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice
of a generation that still has the will to believe
in the greatest country in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here we.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
Go, Okay, everybody, radio stations across the country. Charlie Kirk
here back in the chair. Thank you producer Andrew for
filling in. It has been an eventful a couple of days.
We've had three campus events in the last two days.
I'm sure we have some video and buro the show.
We had thousands of people at Illinois State University, an
unbelievable crowd in the storm in Columbia, South Carolina, and

(05:44):
a packed house where we had to turn away over
six hundred people at the University of Illinois in Champagne
or Bonham. So great to be back in the chair here.
No campus events today, just us talking as we recap
everything that's been going on. And the news is happening
with such a velocity right now, and it's important that
we slow down, analyze and interpret everything that's going on. Tomorrow, however,

(06:07):
I will be at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana,
and then we are wrapping up the week on Friday
in East Lansing at Michigan State University. When President Donald
Trump was merely a real estate developer, he was facing
massive debt in the nineteen nineties, he found himself owing
billions of dollars to banks. In fact, some of his

(06:27):
premier projects, the Trump taj Mahal in Atlantic City, the
Trump Plaza hotel in New York City, and the Trump
Castle in Atlantic City. They're almost all going under, and
in fact they were not doing well. President Trump has
gone through some valleys, and he's gone through some peaks.
He's gone through some troughs, and he has gone through
some pinnacles. This was certainly a valley in the story

(06:50):
of real estate developer Donald Trump. Donald Trump owed so
much money to these banks that seemingly it looked as
if Donald Trump had no leverage. It looked as if
Donald Trump did not have any cards. Donald Trump owed
all of these banks money. It looked as if that
the banks held all the cards. But President Donald Trump

(07:13):
flipped the script. In a historic and legendary moment, President
Donald Trump, at the time real estate developer Donald Trump,
brought in all the banks to his boardroom and he
made a counterintuitive, rather bold argument where he said, yes,
I owe you a bunch of money billions. In fact,

(07:37):
Tos Mahal filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. The Trump
Plaza had a four hundred and seven million dollar loan.
That's back when that was a lot of money. The
Trump Atlantic Trump Castle in Atlantic City faced declining revenues
and had a prepackaged bankruptcy. All three properties were becoming
an albatross on the Trump organization. But President Trump, at

(07:59):
the time, I'm real estate developer. Trump brought everyone in
the room and said, I don't think you banks understand.
You need me a lot more than I need you.
The banks were perplexed by this argument. In this legendary
meeting and Trump Tower, when Donald Trump brought everybody into
the room, he said, listen, if I go down, you
go down with me. He flipped the leverage. Donald Trump

(08:24):
made these banks realize, Holy Moses, Donald Trump would be
fine in one sense. He would just file Chapter eleven.
He would love to see another day. It would be embarrassing.
But these banks have given out so much money to
Donald Trump. They were so hyper leveraged to Donald Trump
that they needed to make a deal, that they needed

(08:46):
to come to the table. This same logic that Donald
Trump successfully used when he was a real estate developer
in the nineteen nineties and got him out of a major,
major hole. This same logic is exactly what Donald Trump
is doing on trade, in particular his use of tariffs
to address the chronic US trade deficit. If America is

(09:08):
the buyer in the global economy, then the world needs
our market more than we need their products. Let me
say that again. If America is the buyer in the
global economy, then the world needs our market more than
we need their products. In Trump's view, we actually hold
all the leverage, not in spite of our trade deficit,

(09:29):
but because of it. Similar to his negotiation with all
the banks in the early nineteen nineties, tariffs are now
a tool to flip the imbalance, forcing trading partners to
come to the table, not because they want to be,
but because they can't afford not to. Just as he

(09:49):
told the banks, you need me or else you are
going to collapse. President Donald Trump is now saying to
all of our trading partners, you need access to our market,
so let's negotiate. Tariffs in this particular framework are not
isolationist tantrums, but instead, you could argue they are strategic

(10:11):
instruments designed not to destroy trade, but to rebalance it
on terms that reflect America's centrality to the global economy.
When you are in a trade deficit, it's not good
you have to import a bunch of stuff. But the
secret hidden power switch behind all of it. The skeletal

(10:36):
key is that you actually hold all the cards. China
is applying all of these tariffs on US goods. Newsflash,
we don't import that many goods into China, but we
import an enormous amount of goods into America. So when
we apply the tariffs on Chinese goods, it is a

(10:57):
one hundred to one in balance of the associated This
is Scott Bessant, Treasury Secretary, who is employing President Trump's
are of the deal understanding and flipping the idea of leverage.
Seemingly you would think, Okay, all these other cards they hold.
All the other countries hold the cards because they're in

(11:18):
a trade surplus. No, we actually hold the cards. Play
cut one sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Wellrie, I think it's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't
want to come and negotiate because they are the worst
defenders in the international trading system. They have the most
imbalanced economy in the history of the modern world. And
I can tell you that this escalation is a loser
for them. That they have some very smart the economists,

(11:49):
the academicians, technocrats within their bureaucracy, and they would be
telling the leadership that we do not have the edge here.
They are the surplus country that they're exports to the
US are five times our exports to China, so they
can raise their terrass.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
But so what, so what.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now?

Speaker 10 (12:17):
China does hold some cards. Our trade deficit is remarkable.
We are dependent on critical goods to be able to staff,
to be able to have machinery for our military. Our
Tomahawk missiles, are fighter jets, are tanks. They need parts
and materials that are made in China. It's not that
China makes our tanks, but they have the thousands of

(12:40):
little individual parts that are necessary. There are minerals in China,
and China is a producer of ninety percent of the
rare earths. It's not because they're the only ones who
have them, it's because they're the only ones mining them.
This problem is fixable. We need to mine our own
rare earths and put the environmentalists in a corner and

(13:02):
be able to extract our own rammers where earth. We
have rare earths all over the United States. We have
them in Texas, we have them in Alaska. This is
the one opportunity we have to use our leverage. If
we allowed this to continue. If this, if we did
not strike at this moment, if we did not go
into the window as we are seeing, then China would

(13:24):
hold all the cards. And to go back to the
nineteen nineties when Donald Trump used this mentality, Donald Trump
would say, if I go down, we all go down.
China can say, in five years or ten years, if
we do not uninterrupt this balance in balance, China can say, actually,
that's not true. We're self sufficient. Understand, China is in
desperate need of energy big time. They are in desperate

(13:46):
need of continually exporting products. The Chinese international order is
inherently mercantilist. It is inherently colonial. We are going to
slowly take over third world nations, make a bunch of
stuff and flood the world our products, and we make stuff.
We are a lot different. We've embraced the brain economy.

(14:10):
We are consumerist. We will trade you pieces of paper
for stuff, and the future will belong to the nation
that both is able to think through problems and have
an information economy, but also have an infrastructure economy. And

(14:30):
if we don't fix this, it would be a realignment
that would forever put America in a power deficit and
right now President Trump in America holds the cards because
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dot com. I want to play some pieces of tape here,
but understand that this entire Trade Chapter Liberation Day is

(17:52):
narrowing on China. If I were to guess based on
Secretary Besson's comments and also President Trump's comments, We're going
to see a deal struck with Japan in South Korea
as we should. The Japanese and the South Koreans are
great allies of us. We do not want to antagonize
the Japanese and the South Koreans use tariffs as a negotiation.

(18:13):
Fine Get more L and G there allow us to
sell our pork, allow us to sell our ag terrific great.
We need to keep on marching and narrowing. In the
emphasis on the Chinese Communist Party, there are minerals in
China that you literally cannot find anywhere else in the world.

(18:35):
Well that's not true, not find them, they actually extract them.
America can make our parts and mine our minerals. Our
leaders have chosen not to do so. And that is
a theme we've talked about a lot here on this program.
Why did we not have a border under Joe Biden?
It was a choice. Why did we have hyperinflation? It

(18:57):
was a choice. Why did we have crime on the streets?
It's a choice. Why do we have massive homelessness? It's
a choice. Why are kids failing to be able to
read at fifth, sixth, and seventh grade, It's a choice.
So many of our problems in our country are a
consequence of our leaders choosing failure. Why because of ideology

(19:21):
or political correctness, or they just don't care. But the
solutions are so self evident, and the promises that the
corporate class and the entrenched political elite told us for
the last forty years. They said that if we trade
with China, China would become a democracy. I would have

(19:43):
to say this would be indictment number one. If I
were a prosecutor trying to metaphorically indict the free trade
absolutists and the zealots. Charge number one would be that
neoliberalism would democ ties the totalitarian countries. I would hear

(20:03):
this all the time. Well, China, they're going to become
ambassadors of freedom of speech. The more we trade the China,
the more they're going to liberalize. It's actually the opposite.
China has become more orwellian, They've become more draconian. They
do have some market principles. They have a stock market,

(20:26):
for instance, but it's a bizarre balance of an oligarchy
and cronyism that is closest to honestly fascism, not private
property protected bottom up free market capitalism. Ninety percent of
the country are basically slaves to the Chinese Communist Party. Effectively,

(20:50):
we know they are not a Western nation. And there
was so much naivete in the early two thousands and
the late late nineteen nineties, early two thousands, and we
would believe, we'd be lent to believe by the experts.
Yet another failure from the expert class that the more
that we buy our Levi jeans and our iPhones and

(21:16):
the toys for our kids and our strollers and our
car seats from China, the more that we buy the
plastic inventory, that all of a sudden, China is going
to be no different than Columbus, Ohio. They're gonna say, oh,

(21:37):
you know, we don't like this communist thing. We thought
that free trade would lead an evangelistic movement amongst the
rank and file. Not only did we underestimate them, but
we significantly miscalculated because the blunder of the economic elite

(21:58):
is they wanted it to be true than they had
any evidence that it was going to be true, because
the money was so tempting and so attractive. The money
flows that people got from unfettered free trade over the
last twenty years was so tempting that they concocted appealing

(22:19):
and alluring arguments that made us kind of say, oh, yeah,
you know, I could kind of see that we trade
pieces of paper, they make our stuff. They're going to liberalize,
They're no longer going to be Mausetong or jau Jo Ping.
They're going to kind of just make themselves a mini America,

(22:41):
and the opposite happened. The rise of China has been
financed by our trade policies. Turns out that the elites
are really good at coming up with rationalizations for making
a lot of money for themselves. You ever notice that
they're really good at creating these abstract, persuasive macro arguments. Meanwhile,

(23:03):
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Speaker 9 (23:21):
Tarance Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Thanks so much for being along for the ride.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
President Trump's reciprocal tariffs are in effect this morning, with China.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Facing the most severe duties.

Speaker 9 (23:32):
The communist nation is now facing a one hundred and
four percent tax on its imports to the United States.
In return, China is upping the ante as well, with
a combined eighty four percent in tariffs on US goods.
The European Union also pushing back with new tariffs on
twenty three billion dollars in US goods. The EU's taxes
are set to take effect in stages beginning next week

(23:54):
and then on May fifteenth, and eventually on December first. Meantime,
Trump is preparing for negotiations with various countries who are
looking to strike a deal taking the true social On Tuesday,
the Commander in Chief writing, I just had a great
call with the acting President of South Korea. Their top
team is on a plane heading to the US and

(24:14):
things are looking good.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
We are likewise.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Dealing with many other countries, all of whom want to
make a deal with the United States. Japanese negotiators are
set to meet with the Trump administration in Italy's Prime
minister is set to visit Washington, DC next week in
hopes of striking a deal. As the US has trade
war with China ramps up. US Secretary of Defense Pete
Hegseth also emphasizing that the communist nation's true build up

(24:40):
in the Western.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Hemisphere is a problem.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
He also describes China as a threat to the Panama Canal.
Secretary Hegsas says China's military has too large of a
presence in this part of the world. Quote, make no mistake,
Beijing is investing and operating in this region for military
advantage in unfair economic game. He's also calling on the
regent's governments to work together to deter China and to

(25:05):
address threats that are posed by transnational drug cartels.

Speaker 11 (25:09):
Together, each for our own country, we will target and
we will destroy those numbers. And thank you again every
leader in this region co operated with the United States
to stop mass illegal migration and to accept returning migrants.

Speaker 12 (25:27):
To your conference.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
Those comments coming just hours ago during your regional security
conference in Panama City, Panama, Well that's.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Going to do it for your headlines. We appreciate you
being here with us.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
Now let's get you back to the Charlie Kirkshow.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
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John Cornyn has had some very let's say, questionable votes
in the last couple of years, and primarying him is
Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of Texas, and he joins
us right now. Ken, welcome to the program. It's a
major announcement. People can support you at Ken Paxton dot com.

(27:54):
Tell us why you are primarying the incumbent Republican Senator
John corn from the state of Texas.

Speaker 13 (28:01):
First of all, thanks for having me on. It's nice
that you get to sit in your seat. Usually I'm
sitting in your seat when you interviewed me.

Speaker 12 (28:07):
Right, So, yeah, So I've been watching John Connor.

Speaker 13 (28:12):
Obviously very very close to the situation in Texas, and
it's been disappointing, not just a need but to our
primary orders.

Speaker 12 (28:19):
Two years ago, three years ago, he.

Speaker 13 (28:21):
Went on stage at the Republican Convention and for thirty
straight minutes he got booed.

Speaker 12 (28:27):
He had just.

Speaker 13 (28:28):
Worked to pass this restrictive gun legislation, worked with Joe Biden.
Joe Biden was congratulating and President Trump was criticizing it
and saying he was Rhino and the people of Texas
were furious that he'd limited our gun rights and that
he'd inflicted damage to the Second Amendment, which then the
ATF used to try to pass more regulations that I
had to go sue on. So these are the types

(28:49):
of things that have not endeared John Cornyan to the
Republican voters of Texas. And it's really obvious that after
twenty you said has been there a while, he's.

Speaker 12 (28:58):
Working on twenty four years in the Senate.

Speaker 13 (29:00):
When he finishes, he wants to be their thirty people
of Texas have had enough of twenty four.

Speaker 10 (29:08):
So talk more about what the case you are going
to bring to the people of Texas. I know that
a survey conducted by Tony Fabrizio found you winning by
nearly twenty five points, and Tony is the best, I mean,
he is the gold standard. So it shows that Ken
Paxson's chances of beating John Cornyn are quite good. But

(29:30):
what do you have to say to some of the
folks in Texas that have known, you know, Senator Cornyn
for a while. They consider him a friend, They donate
to his campaign, and they would say, Ken, you're just
being a rabble rouser. You're causing a problem where it's
not necessary. We shouldn't divide ourselves. We just should focus
on Democrats. What is your response, because I'm sure you're

(29:53):
going to hear that quite a lot.

Speaker 12 (29:55):
So I actually already have.

Speaker 13 (29:57):
I've talked to several of these people and they've said,
you know, we're supporting John because this is our friend.
And I've asked them the question, why is John Cornyn
running again for his good term? And the answer from
them usually as well, and they paused and.

Speaker 12 (30:11):
They're like, well, you know, we don't know. We don't
actually even think he should run.

Speaker 13 (30:15):
We've told them five terms is too many, but he's
our friends, so we're sticking with them, and we're going
to spend a lot of money to beach you there
is no good reason for him to run.

Speaker 12 (30:23):
And I don't know what it is. I haven't heard.
What is he going to do different than what he's
done in the past, And then how do we know
he's going to be different.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
He doesn't have accomplishments that we're proud of. We do
know of things that he's done, including lots of spending
in the Ukraine versus spending on our own border that
we're not happy with. And Texas voters really care about
in immigration, they really care about the Second Amendment and
those are two things that he's fought us on and
gone the other way. Those are problems for us.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
So Attorney General Paxton, what would you all also have
to say to the objection, but you can't win a
general election again, I'm sure you're going to hear this
all the time, that you're just going to lose this
seat and throw it to the Democrats. How would you respond?

Speaker 13 (31:05):
So I've heard that in every general election I've run in,
and yet when you look at my general election results,
even statewide's, that's never been true. I've always performed relative
to Abbott and Patrick. So, for instance, in the last election,
I spent six million dollars. They said the same thing
after I went through a brutal primary with three people
running against people were all well fund and included George P. Bush,

(31:28):
and I went through a runoff and I overwhelmingly won
that by thirty eight points. Then they said, well, he
can't win we got it to replace it because he
didn't win the general election, which is what they always say.

Speaker 12 (31:37):
And then I've always won it.

Speaker 13 (31:39):
So this time I spent six million dollars in general
election I won by ten bean Patrick, who's awesome, spent
about twenty five or so, and he won by this
about the same amount an Abbot spent, you know, one
hundred and fifty or more, and he won by eleven.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
So it's just not true. My numbers come out very similar.

Speaker 13 (31:54):
And that's always the argument that people like Corner makee
because they can't come up with another reason why they
should be elected.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
So let's dive deeper into one of these elements here.
What do you also have to say to Texans that
are worried that you're leaving your Attorney general position?

Speaker 13 (32:12):
So I would say this, I've done this for twelve
years and I love it, and it's I think it's time.
I think, you know, I think holding onto offices too long,
I think you've losed some of your freshness, and.

Speaker 12 (32:21):
I think it's time for a change. I think it's
time for me to change, the time for John Corny change.

Speaker 13 (32:26):
I think that we have people coming up the ranks
that could potentially win this, and look, I can't control
who wins it, but I think there will be some
very good people running. And I have lots of hope
that they've they've they've seen the model that we've set up,
and that.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
They have a pretty good idea of how to follow.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
That, and certainly I would be happy to give you know,
ideas of how to do that because I think I
think we've done some amazing things, and I want an
aggressive Attorney General from Texas because I think it's not
only good for Texas, I think it's good for the
whole country.

Speaker 10 (32:58):
Unfortunately, we've seen a pattern of people that go to
the US Senate and they just kind of lose their
gusto and their spirit. I don't think we're going to
see that from you. But what specifically would you want
to see a US Senator from Texas do, especially in
this next year. What do you want to see the
focus be? What do you want to see the agenda

(33:21):
specifically if you were to become the US Senator from Texas.

Speaker 12 (33:25):
So I think it's.

Speaker 13 (33:26):
Pretty important right now to support President Trump. This agenda
is something amazing. I mean, whether it's his tax cuts,
or whether it's what he's doing even with tariffs, even
with you know, China reform, what's going on with these
crazy judges that are out of control. The agenda is
one of the best I've ever seen, if not the
best I've ever seen in my life. So there's lots

(33:47):
of stuff to support and I have. I think it's
very true that John corn has not been that guy.

Speaker 12 (33:53):
I know he is.

Speaker 13 (33:53):
Suddenly he's got religion, and he will have that religion
until you know, the election's over. But I will be
there from the beginning and to the end because I
actually believe this stuff. It's in my heart, it's in
my soul, and I will be supportive of President Trump
and everything he's doing.

Speaker 10 (34:11):
So, Ken, I know a lot of our audience wants
to support you. What does the campaign look like, when
is the primary? What is the process? And how has
Senator Cornyn responded?

Speaker 12 (34:23):
Well?

Speaker 13 (34:24):
So, I don't think he has much response to He doesn't
he doesn't have a pass that.

Speaker 12 (34:28):
He can go out and talk about in the Republican primary.

Speaker 13 (34:31):
He can talk about it in a general election because
you know, he's reached out to Democrats and monars, but
he doesn't have he doesn't have initiatives or things he's
worked on that are good Republican issues.

Speaker 12 (34:42):
On the other end, he can't really talk about the the.

Speaker 13 (34:45):
Bad things he's done, guns and order and criticize the
President Trump. So his campaign guarantee you will be negative
attacks on me, it won't work. I've been through this
many times, but that is where he is going with
his money. On the other hand, I will be out
for the next eleven months. Our primary is March of
next year, first Tuesday in March. I have a lot
of practice in talking to Republican voters. I will be

(35:06):
out talking to Republican voters.

Speaker 14 (35:07):
I will be out raising money and I can tell
you I will raise a lot of money and I
will get on my message across about what it is
that I want to do that is different than what
he's done, and how I will oppose some of the
very things that he pushed so hard.

Speaker 10 (35:22):
So this is going this is going to escalate in
a very significant and serious way. Kind of final question here,
what would you have to say for those that say
that this is going to thwart President Trump's Senate agenda,
meaning it puts that risk his agenda in the United
States Senate? Could John Corning go rogue like a John McCain.

Speaker 12 (35:42):
John's not going to go rogue.

Speaker 13 (35:44):
He's going to be a good boy for the next
year and a half and then he'll go back to
being what he is, which is a moderate to you know,
some of who is going to answer to DC as
opposed to the of Texas. In the end, it's the
people of Texas that elect the Senate Senator from Texas,
and we've elected a very good one, Senator Ted Roots.

(36:04):
They have a right to their choice and they do
not want John Cornyant and I think the next eleven
months are going to prove that. And I think the
polling already shows strong as a replubment centator. There is
no way that he should be down as an incumbent
that served or termed by twenty five points.

Speaker 12 (36:20):
And that is not my only poll.

Speaker 13 (36:21):
I have separate polls from different polsters that are very
similar to that, that are not worse, that are even
a little better. So the people of Texas deserve We're
not in Vermont, We're not in May. We are in Texas.
We deserve two very strong conservative centers. We're going to
go support President Trump.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Very good.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Repeat the website and how people can support you, Attorney
General Pankston, Well, thank you for.

Speaker 13 (36:46):
Bringing that up, Kenpaxton dot com, and you can learn
about my campaign as well as contribute. Obviously, they are
going to have a lot of money from Washington, and
we're going to have a lot of money from just
the grassroots, and that's where my money comes from.

Speaker 12 (36:57):
So really appreciate you mentioning that.

Speaker 10 (37:01):
Ken Paxton dot com. Attorney General Paxton, thanks so much.

Speaker 12 (37:04):
Thank you have a great day.

Speaker 10 (37:08):
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(37:28):
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Waking up.

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Speaker 1 (39:51):
One brainwashed radical at a time.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
That's enough.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's the Charlie Kirkshow.

Speaker 10 (39:57):
Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always, Freedom at
Charli Kirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Let's
show some of these images from Illinois State University and
University South Carolina. Let's put them up on screen. We
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look at that that I think is that? Yeah, that's
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is it was torrentially raining. I mean right, Brian, I

(40:20):
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and we had thousands of people with umbrellas and they
sat to the entire thing. It was remarkable. And then
lightning came so we couldn't last the entire time. And
then we had a even bigger one at Illinois State University.
Look at that thousands of people showing up, just remarkable.
And I'll tell you there'll be some very very viral clips.

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a packed group of packed room and I told the
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(42:53):
to play some more pieces of tape here and really
dive into this. All eyes are on China. The entire
trade situation ends and begins with China. The whole conversation.
It is a narrowed, zero in focus on the dominance

(43:13):
of the Chinese Communist Party. We created this problem, and
now it's time for us to fix this problem. The
Chinese Communist Party would not be a emerging global superpower
if it was not for us letting them into the
World Trade Organization. Thank you Bill Clinton for us allowing
their superpower status and for us to come under the

(43:34):
perplexing fascination that the more plastic that we important to
our country, the richer we get paper for plastic, paper
for plastic, and they used that money. The Chinese Companist
Party used those dollars to build an empire. Mister Wonderful
from Shark Tank has been excellent on this. He's been terrific.

(43:56):
We should have him on the show. He's been terrific.
Let's play cut one se.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Four percent tariffs in China are not enough. I'm advocating
four hundred percent. I do business in China. They don't
play by the rules. They've been in the WHO for decades.
They have never abided by any of the rules they
agreed to when they came in for decades. They cheat,
They steal, they steal ip I can't litigate in their courts.
They take product, technology, they steal it, they manufacture it

(44:24):
and sell it back here.

Speaker 10 (44:29):
This is exactly right. The Chinese Communist Party has forced
information sharing agreements. They have a state directed industrial policy
through the coordinated use of state subsidies and forced technology
transfers in intellectual property appropriation. China has fused industrial policy
with their national strategy. There's a program that is called

(44:51):
Made in China twenty twenty five, and when you read it,
it is not merely economic in its intent. It's about
creating massive instruments of global influence, all designed to displace
Western dominance in what advanced manufacturing, robotics, aerospace, and biotech.

(45:11):
So they flood global markets with artificially cheap goods, often
produced under terrible environmental and labor standards. And then China
has decimated domestic manufacturing abroad. It is flood the zone
you buy the stuff, and then all of a sudden
you're dependent on them. It is a long term, enveloping strategy.
Play cut one seventy one.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
It says, not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on
China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades. I
have nothing against the Chinese people. They've brought great literacy, art,
and tech to the world. The government cheats and steals,
and finally an administration. You may not like Trump, you

(45:56):
may not like his style or his rhetoric. Finally an
administration that puts up and says enough.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
The Chinese Communist Party is running out of cards. There's
still a lot they can do. They hold cards with
rare earth minerals. But when you have a trade deficit
with the other country, you actually have more leverage. The
Chinese stock market is down significantly. Our stock market is up,
and I can't even keep track of I don't even
want to do this stock market thing. It's way too frenetic,
it's way too vault. This is the first time anyone

(46:31):
has stood up to the Chinese Communist Party. Why because
our elites have made so much money and it is
the untouchable third rail well, guess what President Donald Trump
is a class trader. He's a defector from the elites,
brought to you by the American people, commissioned by the
working class to finally stand up to the great menace

(46:51):
that we made possible. And you're seeing it unfold in
real time. Second hour coming up.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Baits. President Trump's reciprocal tariffs are in effect this morning,
with China facing the most severe duties. The communist nation
is now facing a one hundred and four percent tax
on its imports to the United States. In return, though
China is upping the ante as well with a combined
eighty four.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Percent in tariffs on US goods.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
The European Union also pushing back with new tariffs on
twenty three billion dollars in US goods. The EU's taxes
are set to take effect in stages beginning next week,
and then eventually on May fifteenth and finally December.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
First. Meantime, President Trump.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
Is preparing for negotiations with various other countries who are
looking to strike a deal taking the true social The
Commander in Chief writing, I just had a great call
with the acting president of South Korea. Their top team
is on a plane headed to the US and things
are looking good. We are likewise dealing with many other countries,
all of whom want to make a deal with the
United States. Japanese negotiators are set to meet with the

(48:15):
President and his administration, and Italy's prime minister is set
to visit Washington, DC next week in hopes of striking
a deal. As a United States is trade war with
China ramps up, US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth also
emphasizing the communist nation's troop build up in the Western
Hemisphere and even describing China as a threat to the

(48:36):
Panama Canal. Secretary Hegsath says China's military has too large
of a presence in this part of the world.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Quote, make no mistake, Beijing.

Speaker 9 (48:45):
Is investing in operating in this region for military advantage
and unfair economic gain. He's also calling on the region's
governments to work together to deter China and address threats
posed by transnational drug cartels as well as the issue
of mass immigration.

Speaker 11 (49:02):
Together, each for our own country, we will target and
we will destroy those numbers. And thank you again, every
leader in this region who operated with the United States
to stop mass illegal migration and to accept returning migrants
to your countries.

Speaker 9 (49:21):
Those comments coming just hours ago during your regional security
conference in Panama City, Panama. The National Counterintelligence and Security
Center says foreign countries, specifically China, are trying to recruit
current and foreign US government employees. The spies are said
to be posing as consulting firms, corporate headhunters, think tanks,

(49:42):
and other social and professional networking sites. Employees let go
as part of a recent federal layoff are being targeted
as well. US intelligence services are reminding workers with security
clearances that they are obligated to protect classified data even
after leaving federal employment. Happening today, House Republicans expected to

(50:03):
move forward on a measure that would extend President Trump's
twenty seventeen tax cuts. However, the bigger issue that will
ultimately need to be addressed is spending cuts. While House
members need to reach an agreement on how much spending
needs to be cut in the upcoming budget, the Senate
will likely have to increase its spending cut aspirations as well.
At the moment, Speaker Johnson's caucus is pushing for about

(50:25):
two trillion dollars in spending cuts over ten years. That's
far more than Senate Republicans are calling for. The proposed
House spending cuts would be coupled with around five trillion
dollars in tax cuts. The Associated Press will be back
in the White House Press briefing room today after a
judge ordered the Trump administration to lift its access restrictions.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Related to the news organization.

Speaker 9 (50:48):
A US district judge says the Associated Press is now
allowed back in the Oval Office in other places around
the White House.

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Okay, everybody, welcome back to the Bitcoin dot Com mobile studio.
As always, you can email us Freedom at charliekirk dot
com and subscribe to our podcast that is the Charliekirkshaw
podcast page. Joining us now is Mark Krekorian, executive director
for the Center for Immigration Studies and columnist for Compact Magazine. Mark,
I want to just first start, Can you explain to

(52:42):
our audience how profound the changes that we've seen at
the southern border in just the last couple of months
under President Trump's leadership. What have we seen? What are
the numbers show and compare that to Joe Biden.

Speaker 16 (52:55):
What we've seen is a ninety plus percent drop in
the number of people coming across. And you know, the
Biden administration kept saying this is seasonal, this is because
of climate change, this is because of poverty, blah blah blah,
There's nothing we can do about it until Congress gives
us new tools what have you. Well, we didn't need

(53:17):
new legislation, we didn't need new tools. We just needed
a new president. And the numbers have not just gone down,
you know, right at the beginning, but we're in April
now and the numbers are the lowest ever recorded. I
mean I talked to some border patrol people and there
are days, there are stretches on the border where there
are whole days where literally not a single person tries,

(53:40):
even at the middle of the night with smugglers to cross.
So this is a complete one hundred and eighty degree
turned from what we saw under Biden. It shows that
the border can be controlled. Doesn't mean everything's fixed, because
you've still got all kinds of illegal aliens that Biden
let in. You've got v overstays, that's going to be

(54:01):
the main source of new illegal immigration in the future.
But at the border, you know, they've shut it down,
and the important point is that they need to keep
it up so it doesn't creep back up again because
the smugglers are always looking for another way to come in.
So you know, eternal vigilance is the price of border security.
But so far it's it's a sea change.

Speaker 10 (54:28):
So you mentioned something I thinktant that's important. These are
all approximations. I ask expert after expert, how many people
did come across the southern border when Joe Biden was president.

Speaker 16 (54:39):
Our estimate and this is you know, some people say
it's too low, but I think you're getting something like
ten million people, most of whom the administration consciously let
into the country, plus another couple million who were so
called gotaways, in other words, they got pas asked the

(55:00):
border patrol because there were whole stretches of the border
that nobody was able to patrol because the agents were.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
There, you know, on diaper duty.

Speaker 16 (55:08):
With all the illegal immigrants Biden invited in who came
and turned themselves in. So I think, you know, ten
million is a is not a low ball number. But
it's also not exaggerated. On the other hand, you know,
isn't that enough? I mean, how many millions does democratic

(55:28):
administration have to illegally let into the country before we
decide we have to do something about it.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
So one of the problems that I think is going
to arise is the left suddenly caring about constitutional rights
and due process. An objection that I've been receiving on
college campuses is, Charlie, you're not allowed to port any
individual unless they get a full court hearing. They get
months and months of attorneys, you know, briefing them. Is

(55:59):
that correct? Does every person that has waltzed into this country,
all ten million of them, do they get attorney representation?
Do they get nine month waiting periods? If so, we
would deport a couple thousand people at that rate. What
does the law say.

Speaker 16 (56:18):
The law says you can make an asylum claim, and
everybody gets to say that when they're captured or when
they're in deportation proceedings to say no, don't deport me.

Speaker 17 (56:31):
Because we're interrupting this program for a special live.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
Report, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins is at the White House
addressing the media.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Right now all.

Speaker 18 (56:40):
Of the realignment that's happening right now. Clearly the markets
are adjusting to that. But what we have seen since
the announcement a week ago, seventy countries are coming to
the table. They are calling the work that's happening in
the West wing right now is unprecedented. It's going on
all day, every day, most nights, most all nine as again,
we work to ensure that instead of living under a

(57:04):
terra regime of other countries, that we instead are in
the driver's seat as we should be.

Speaker 19 (57:10):
As Secretary, you have previously said that farmers will likely
fase some short term uncertainty.

Speaker 18 (57:16):
What a short term mean?

Speaker 9 (57:17):
How long is that?

Speaker 18 (57:19):
Well, short term uncertainty, which of course the President talked
about in his State of the Union or Joint Session Congress,
but also as he has talked for almost tenure, well
thirty years of his career but almost ten years now
in public life, that the tariffs are a very important
part of the toolkits. Of course, tax cuts are absolutely
essential as part of that the deregulation effort. From a

(57:40):
farming and ranching perspective, it isn't just the tariffs the numbers,
it's also the unfair practices that other countries are using
to stop our beef, our corn, and some of our
other products from getting into their countries. The short term
is no one knows. We don't have a crystal ball,
but we believe it will be very fat. Again, the
conversations are ongoing. This president is a president of Main Street,

(58:05):
not Wall Street. He has been very bold in his
promises and he's working around the clock to keep those promises.
The message again to our farmers and ranchers is that
we understand and frankly all of America, is that we
understand that it is somewhat uncertain now. But the vision
and the strategy and the goal of an American economy
that is realigned around the American people and making things

(58:28):
and building things and bringing jobs back to our hollowed
out communities. That's real and that's what this economic plan,
that's what the President's vision will absolutely achieve.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Thank y'all, so much.

Speaker 18 (58:40):
Great to be with yar.

Speaker 19 (58:42):
China is not one of those seventy countries though, and
the Chinese terri for the one that was.

Speaker 9 (58:46):
Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rowland's talking about the tariffs that are
of course top of the news these days. Let's get
you back to the Charlie kirkshow now.

Speaker 17 (58:54):
This has been a live special report, we now join
our programming already in progress.

Speaker 16 (59:00):
You can gain the system, and the system is gameable
enough that if you're smart, and if you have a
smuggler who gives you the right instructions, you can in
fact gum up the system successfully if you want to.

Speaker 10 (59:19):
Yeah, if you say the magic words, if I say
open Sesame or hocus pocus, you're allowed to stay in
the country.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Mark.

Speaker 10 (59:27):
I don't want to I don't want to zero on
this too much. But what you are pointing painting is
a rather urgent and dare I say somewhat depressing picture
that we're not going to be able to get mass
deportations unless Congress fixes the asylum statute. All it's going
to take is from millions of these people just to
say the magic words, and they're going to gum up
the works of the judiciary and throw sand in the

(59:49):
gears and we won't get mass deportations. Is that the case.

Speaker 16 (59:54):
There's a real danger of that, I'm afraid, and that's
the goal of the anti borders people, both on the
left and the libertarians is to have a kind of
one way border where you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Can come in, but we can't get you out.

Speaker 16 (01:00:08):
The one aspect that gives me a little more hope
is that. And the way you can increase numbers is
if the administration steps up work site enforcement more because
those people are likely you know, they're not likely to
be criminals. Some of them will be, but most of
them are just working stiffs. And they're also not going

(01:00:30):
to have credible asylum claims. Probably it depends some of them,
you know, some ACLU lawyer may come up with something.
But you can actually get higher numbers of deportations when
you start doing work site enforcement. And they have started,
but they need to step it up. What they've been
focusing on at first, and correctly so, is criminals. But

(01:00:53):
most illegal immigrants aren't you know, violent criminals. They're just
read I mean, they've broken a law, but they're just
working stiffs. And if we're going to enforce the law,
we've got to enforce work site enforcement in a big
way if you're going to get higher numbers than we're
seeing now.

Speaker 10 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I hope everyone understands that.

Speaker 14 (01:01:11):
Mark.

Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
I'm gonna keep you another segment phenomenal analysis. It's like
the talking points all went out. I've done five campus
events that every single one, a kid comes up, single Charlie,
every single one of these illegals needs due process and
they need a multi year waiting period. And I thought
to myself, well, I want to know what the law
actually says. We're not going to deport anybody under this
at all. I mean, the left has figured out how

(01:01:32):
to gamify and entrench the entire judiciary. And of course
there is no scrutiny on their way in, but their
scrutiny on the way out. I hope everyone understands how
insane this is no scrutiny on the way in, but
their scrutiny on the way out. That is the current configuration.
Joe Biden's parting gift to us as oh, yeah, I know,

(01:01:53):
you got ten million new people. Good luck getting them out.
We got to fix this. Everybody. Congress has to act.
They got to act quickly. I don't know if you
can go into reconciliation bill or if it takes sixty votes.
But the key really is self deportation, which Mitt Romney
was made fun of back in twenty twelve. But we
have to emphasize that. We'll talk more with Mark Gricorian

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(01:04:59):
on employers so illegals don't get jobs? You mentioned that
a little bit or clamped down on illegals getting benefits.
It seems as if and the New York Times has
an article on this, the self deporters our immigration correspondent
has found a surprising trend. It seems as if this
has to this can only happen with an acceleration of
people self deporting. What is your comments or thoughts on this, Mark?

Speaker 16 (01:05:21):
Yeah, absolutely, the administration is doing some stuff in that regard.
I mean, the IRS is now providing information to ICE,
and they're making clear everybody knows that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
In fact, the acting head.

Speaker 16 (01:05:33):
Of the IRS quit because of that, which is you know,
good riddance. The DHS has now reinstituted something that was
in the law, but the Biden people undid, which is
if you've been ordered deported and just are still here
haven't left, and there's one point four million people like that,

(01:05:53):
you now have almost thousand dollars a day fine and
they can seize your home and your property in lieu
of the fine.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
So the administration is doing some of this. The big step.

Speaker 16 (01:06:05):
The next big step, as you suggested, is making it
as hard as possible to get a job if you're
illegally here, and that requires work site enforcement.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
They've got to step it up.

Speaker 16 (01:06:17):
They've got to go after employers where they have evidence
that can stand up in court to make it clear
to employers that they need to you know, they need
to avoid hiring illegal immigrants. You got to make it
as hard as possible to be here illegally. That's what
spurs self deportation. The administration is doing some smart steps

(01:06:41):
in that direction. They need to step up, especially work
site enforcement, to make that work better.

Speaker 10 (01:06:48):
Here's the other really important and good thing. The border
is sealed and so we're not adding to the problem.
We just have to deal with the incumbent. I don't
want to say occupying force, but the incumbent in trenched
problem here domestically. Where where else can we choke point this?
What other NGOs can we doge or be defunding? And

(01:07:08):
how do we crush sanctuary cities once and for all.

Speaker 16 (01:07:15):
Well, the first point is, yes, the border is the
regular the land border is mostly sealed.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
That's you know, that's that's done. But there's lots.

Speaker 16 (01:07:25):
Of people coming in on visas legally and then just
not leaving. So the illegal population isn't just in other words,
it's not just a matter of trying to reduce people
get people here to leave. It is still going to
be growing. And so that's a problem that DH has
to deal with. As far as other choke points, you know,
the driver's licenses, we've got to get this real id

(01:07:50):
deadline past so that illegal immigrants can't get regular driver's licenses.
Only in certain states can they get basically regal alien
driver's license.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Is what amounts Sanctuary.

Speaker 16 (01:08:03):
Cities is a hard enough to crack because the Tenth Amendment,
according to Supreme Court, says the Feds can't cut off
money for purposes that aren't related to that grant money.
In other words, you can't say you're a sanctuary city.
So no more highway funds or education funds for you.

(01:08:25):
All they can do is cut off Justice Department you know, grants,
and they're trying to do that. Most of these big
cities couldn't care less. They're like, keep the money, We're
going to keep protecting illegal immigrant criminals. So sanctuary cities
are a tough nut to crack. I'm not really sure
without Congress acting, the administration can really you know, rein

(01:08:48):
them in and end this outrageous nullification really of federal
law that sanctuary cities represent.

Speaker 10 (01:08:59):
It's really said, Mark, tell the audience about the work
you guys do at the Center for Immigration Studies and
the top project you're working on.

Speaker 16 (01:09:07):
We're a think tank in DC cis dot o RG.
We're the only think tank on this. There's a couple
of other good organizations on you know, low immigration and
controlling the borders, but they're more citizen action advocacy groups.
We're the only research group on this, and we've got
all kinds of stuff come. We have a report coming
out probably next week on how immigration is not a

(01:09:30):
solution to the birth rate issue. Is that if you're
going to have you know, if you're going to be
at birth rates to come back up. Immigration is not
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Speaker 10 (01:09:53):
Mark s great, very good, Thank you, Mark, thank you, thanks,
very good. Talk to you soon. Markakrian from the Center
for Immigration Studies. Breaking news, everybody. President Donald Trump has now
announced a nine day pause on all tariffs except China.
My prediction is right, He's narrowing in on China. This
is exactly right. China is not exempt all of our partners. Honestly,

(01:10:13):
we should negotiate with get deals, but all eyes on China.
We are decoupling from China. This is exactly right. The
market is up two two hundred points.

Speaker 17 (01:10:23):
Whoo.

Speaker 10 (01:10:24):
I'm glad I was long.

Speaker 9 (01:10:33):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. As the US has trade war with China
rams up. US Secretary of Defense Pete haig Seth is
emphasizing that the communist nation's true build up in the
Western Hemisphere is an issue. He also describes China as
a threat to the Panama Canal. Secretary hag Seth says
that China's military has too large of a presence in

(01:10:55):
this part of the world, saying, quote, make no mistake,
Beijing is invested stay in operating in this region for
military advantage and unfair economic gain. He's also calling on
the region's governments to work together to deter China and
to address threats posed by transnational drug cartels.

Speaker 11 (01:11:14):
Together, each for our own country, we will target and
we will destroy those networks. And thank you again every
leader in this region who operated with the United States
to stop mass illegal migration and to accept returning migrants.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
To your countries.

Speaker 9 (01:11:33):
Those comments coming earlier this morning during a regional security
conference in Panama City, Panama, The National Counterintelligence and Security
Center says foreign countries, specifically China, are trying to recruit
current and foreign US government employees. The spies are said
to be posing as consulting firms, corporate headhunters, think tanks,

(01:11:54):
and other social and professional networking sites. Employees let go
as part of recent federal layoffs are being targeted here.
US intelligence services are reminding workers with security clearances that
they are obligated to protect classified data even after leaving
federal employment. Happening today, House Republicans expected to move forward

(01:12:15):
on a measure that would extend President Trump's twenty seventeen
tax cuts. However, the bigger issue that will ultimately need
to be addressed is spending cuts. While House members need
to reach an agreement on how much spending needs to
be cut in the upcoming budget, the Senate will likely
have to increase its spending cut aspirations as well.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
At the moment, Speaker Mike Johnson's.

Speaker 9 (01:12:36):
Caucus is pushing for about two trillion dollars in spending
cuts over ten years. That's far more than the Senate
Republicans are calling for. The proposed House spending cuts would
be coupled with around five trillion dollars in tax cuts.
That's a greick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 10 (01:13:12):
Okay, everybody, welcome back. We got some super breaking news here.
Ninety day pause on tariffs for every nation except China.
It's exactly where we want to be. We want to
be narrowing our focus on the Chinese Communist Party. Now
China stands alone. It's exactly right. You want to unite
the entire world against the Chinese Communist Party. And we
hold a lot of other little tricks up our sleeve.

(01:13:36):
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(01:15:04):
we get into Bonhaffer, Eric, your reaction to President Donald
Trump's tariffs against the Chinese Communist Party and uniting the
free world against our greatest enemy, the Chinese.

Speaker 7 (01:15:16):
You know what I'm not, Charlie Kirk. I'll just keep
it real simple and emotional. How much do I love
this president? I love this president. He has just been
so extraordinary.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
He gets it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
And you know, Charlie, what's at the heart of this
And it's not like I was thinking to link to Bonhoeffer.
But of course it is. This is a man of courage.
This president stands up to bullies. The Chinese have gotten
away with literally murder and with cheating and lying, and
on some level, Trump perspectives like, Okay, if you can
get away with it, why not take advantage. But guess what,

(01:15:52):
We're not gonna let you. Sorry, we can't let you
get away with it anymore. He is brilliant President. She
us understand this. Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderfully yesterday was saying
that we should slap four hundred percent tariffs on China
and then she would be on a plane to DC
to make a deal yesterday. It is about time we

(01:16:14):
confronted the bully in the schoolyard. And it is only
President Trump who has the courage to do it. We
need men and women of courage. And this president is
a gift from God, not just to this nation but
to the world. I think many around the world are
just applauding him, and it's exciting.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Praise God.

Speaker 17 (01:16:34):
We're interrupting this program for a special live report.

Speaker 9 (01:16:38):
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen talking about tariffs outside the White House.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
He's getting ready to take the podium. Let's listen.

Speaker 19 (01:16:44):
In tariff on China will now go up to one
hundred and twenty five percent because China imprudently decided to
retaliate against the United States. And as I said at
the podium yesterday, when you punch at the United States
of America, President Trump is going to punch back harder.
In that same vein, we have had more than seventy
five countries from around the world reach out to President
Trump and his team here at the White House to

(01:17:05):
negotiate better trade deals for the American worker. We have
been overwhelmed with the amount of request from countries around
the world. I'll let the Secretary speak to that. We
will continue with the tailor made negotiations that I spoke
about yesterday. In the meantime, there will be a ninety
day pause on the reciprocal tariffs as these negotiations are ongoing,
and the tariff level will be brought down to a

(01:17:25):
universal ten percent tariff. The Secretary here has been a
huge part of the President's trade team, of course, and
will continue to lead these negotiations moving forward to look
out for the American worker, which is always President Dump's goal.
So I'll kick it over to our great Treasury Secretary
Scott Besson.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Good, thank you, and we saw the successful negotiating strategy
that President Trump implemented a week ago. Today, it has
brought more than seventy five countries forward to negotiate. It
took great courage, great courage for him to stay the
course until this moment. And what we have ended up
with here, as I told everyone a week ago, they are.

Speaker 10 (01:18:06):
In this very spot.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Do not retaliate and you will be rewarded. So every
country in the world who wants to come and.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Negotiate the we are willing to hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
We're going to go down to a ten percent baseline
tariff the for them and China will be raised to
one five due to their insistence on escalation.

Speaker 10 (01:18:35):
Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 12 (01:18:36):
Let me ask you, Clara, the markets.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
In China part of.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Well China, no China.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
So given then that you have the rest of the
worldation to calling in China, it's not just all about China. Well,
it's about bad actors. And you know what we will
see is some of the very early countries are China's
neighbors that we're going to see I'm seeing Vietnam today,
Japan's at the front of the queue, South Korea, India,

(01:19:15):
so you know, we will see. And as I've repeatedly said,
and President Trump has been saying it for years, China
is the most imbalanced economy in the history of the
modern world. And they are the biggest source of the
US trade problems. And indeed they are problems for the
rest of the world because what we've seen is that

(01:19:37):
as the US announced a tariff wall last week, many
of those goods have already started footing into Europe.

Speaker 10 (01:19:45):
You see how this trade war.

Speaker 12 (01:19:47):
Is China versus group.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Well, I'm not calling it a trade war, but I'm
saying that China has escalated and President Trump responded very
courageously to that, and we you are going to work
on a solution with the our trading partners.

Speaker 19 (01:20:05):
And just excuse me, excuse me if I excuse me,
or Kyle, if I could just add to what the
secretary said. Many of you in the media clearly missed
the art of the deal. You clearly failed to see
what President Trump is doing here. You tried to say
that the rest of the world would be moved closer
to China when in fact, we've seen the opposite effect.
The entire world is calling the United States of America,

(01:20:27):
not China, because they need our markets, they need our consumers,
and they need this president in the Oval Office to
talk to them. If that's exactly why more than seventy
five countries have called. Because the United States of America
is the best place in the world to do business.
And as the President has shown great courage, as the
secretary have said, in choosing to retaliate against China even higher. Helena,
go ahead, you turgery secretary about.

Speaker 20 (01:20:49):
This, Can you explain what the decision, the game on
the fields like the person here I mean, just please
went into that less than than fifteen hours ago.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
These terms.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Why the pause now like that? No again, President Trump
created maximum negotiating leverage for himself, and the witch Terrists
went into effect fifteen hours ago. The ones that we
have lowered went into effect a week ago. There they
were announced a week ago, and we have just been overwhelmed,

(01:21:17):
overwhelmed by the response from mostly our allies who want
to come and negotiate in good faith. So we are
expecting them to come with their best deal. As I
said a week ago. Today, don't retaliate, hold your ground.
Let's see what happens. And China they kept escalating and escalating,

(01:21:39):
and now they have one hundred and twenty five percent
tariffs that will be effective immediately ahead.

Speaker 20 (01:21:46):
You're giving this cause one paris if not, because it's
my last that we've been seating and possibly on.

Speaker 12 (01:21:53):
The market on my class. You want me saw this
song market?

Speaker 14 (01:21:56):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
It's because it going to because of the large number
of inbounds. We've had more than seventy five countries contact us,
and I imagine after today there will be more. So
it is just a processing problem. Each one of each
one of these solutions is going to be bespoke. It
is going to take some time, and President Trump wants
to be personally involved. So that's why we're getting the

(01:22:22):
ninety day.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Palls hearing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
The look. It's all the president's decision, and that we were.
The President had the A level in mind to raise
the China tariffs, and then he had the three month
essentially the three month Pauls in mind, and we were
discussing the exact wording, sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Courts.

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
The president's decision.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
It was a president's decision to wait until today. And again,
as I've said in the past, no one creates a
leverage for himself like President Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
What does the president want to.

Speaker 18 (01:23:17):
See by this?

Speaker 21 (01:23:18):
I think it's July ninth deadline to keep things on
any justice three areas.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Un well that that these are trade negotiations. But if
countries want to come and offer other things. You know,
I talked about yesterday that we are thinking about a
big L and G project in Alaska that Korea, South Korea, Japan,

(01:23:44):
Taiwan are interested in financing and taking a substantial portion
of the off take. But again, in essence, that is
trade because it will decrease the trade deficit that we
have with these countries. So everything's on the.

Speaker 20 (01:24:02):
Table mutification to ten for all the walls. What happens
to those countries just hand a ten percent basedline times
like Brazil and Aunt Barns and points of the night
is that we're saying that no be a ter ten
percent for orders. So what happens to those you just
had as.

Speaker 10 (01:24:21):
Yeah, that's going to remain.

Speaker 22 (01:24:25):
To China party.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Your pony is high arrable to China trade bargle.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Well, the I'm not sure what you mean by the
word embargo.

Speaker 20 (01:24:38):
Towns and then in the post even four percent isn't
any bar.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Well, it's look, it's China's decision that we have the
definitive with them. They sell us almost five times what
we sell them. So again I think it's an own
goal by China. Sign It signals that President Trump cares

(01:25:08):
about trade and that we want to negotiate in good faith.

Speaker 10 (01:25:12):
And as I said.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Each one of these is going to be a separate,
bespoke negotiation. So we are confident that the having seen
the other side of where this could go. And it
was like I said last week that the market didn't
understand those were maximum levels. The countries can think about

(01:25:35):
those levels as they come to us to bring down
their tariffs, their non tariff trade barriers. We're going to
discuss currency manipulation, subsidy of labor and industry.

Speaker 10 (01:25:50):
Also applying to the sexual pariff.

Speaker 22 (01:25:52):
President ing on it's on the market here.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 21 (01:26:17):
Market takes a lot about the market.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Well, I think what we've seen, I think the willingness
by more than seventy five countries to come and negotiate.
I think now the market understands that everything they saw
last Wednesday was a ceiling, and now we have a
ten percent the temporary floor. And I think the market.

(01:26:56):
My thirty five years in the market, I always wanted certainty,
so I think we've got more certain.

Speaker 19 (01:27:03):
Maggie go as your secretary.

Speaker 15 (01:27:05):
Why do people assume this is the last week.

Speaker 12 (01:27:07):
I've never began this.

Speaker 19 (01:27:08):
Morning saying equal find our resladers policy, my woodnessors.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Of working to sue.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
This is because again, as I said, we've given ninety days,
and the only certainty we can provide is that the
US is going to negotiate in good faith, and we
assume that our allies will too. And in terms of certainty,
we will see what China does. But what I am
certain of, what I'm certain of is that what China

(01:27:37):
is doing will affect their economy much more than it
will ours, because they have an export driven flood the
world with cheap export models. And the rest of the
world now understands because when we put up our tariff wall,
those exports were already flowing to the rest of the
G seven and to.

Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
The global self.

Speaker 12 (01:27:59):
And this is jack.

Speaker 19 (01:28:01):
This decision was driven by the bond market cratering overnight.

Speaker 10 (01:28:05):
What is happening with BONS is China selling their bonds.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I am nothing that says that, and we actually had
quite a good tenure auction today. And all this was again,
this was driven by the President's strategy. He and I
had a long talk on Sunday and this was his
strategy all along, and that you know, you might even
say that he go to China into a bad position.

(01:28:32):
They they responded, they have shown themselves to the world
to be the bad actors. And and we are willing
to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners
who did not retaliate. It wasn't a hard message, don't retaliate.
Things will turn out.

Speaker 10 (01:28:49):
Well, what.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Would be matter of months You expected Flinancia Morgants to
be stabled during that time period, Well, we started with
a ninety day pause and we will see if more
countries turn up, what will happen. But we have a
meeting with Vietnam today and we have one of the
largest trade deficits with them, so I'm hoping it will

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move in a good direction. I was at the Japanese
ambassador's house last night for the cherry blossom festival, which
is quite festive, and he and I had a good chat.
They are going to send a deal team over so
we'll see. These are complicated negotiations. These are imbalances that
have taken decades to create. But I think having seen

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the maximum level that Donald Trump is willing to go to,
President Trump has created this negotiating leverage.

Speaker 19 (01:29:53):
Excuse me, everybody, excuse me, the secretary.

Speaker 12 (01:29:56):
Excuse me.

Speaker 19 (01:29:57):
The Secretary is obviously a very busy man as he is.
He's had more than seventy five countries that the trade
team has to respond to. I'd just like to end
with this. For decades, Republicans and Democrats have said that
these unfair trade practices are ripping off the American people,
are ripping off our country, but nobody has ever done
anything to address it. We finally have a president here

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at the White House who is playing the long game,
who is doing what is right for the American worker
in our industries here at home, and he has put
together a fantastic team and Secretary Vessett, Secretary Lesnik, the
entire trade team who will be focusing on negotiating these
good deals to put the American workers first. And we're
going to get to work to do that.

Speaker 10 (01:30:37):
Thank you, China.

Speaker 9 (01:30:43):
Big News coming out of the White House as the
administration is putting a ninety day pause on teriffs for
most countries. However, China is now being hit with a
one hundred and twenty five percent tariff because it has
not come to the negotiating table. We'll be talking about
it throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. But
now let's get you back over to the Charlie kirkshow.

Speaker 17 (01:31:04):
This has been a live special report. We now join
our programming already in progress.

Speaker 10 (01:31:10):
He's sitting down with Vietnam this afternoon. I expect a
really good deal of Vietnam saying they're gonna buy more
LNG or they're gonna buy more of our cattle or
exported beef. I should say President Trump has been calm
and cool, and China retaliated. They made a bad move.
He goaded and baited the CCP. This was the plan
all along. Trump goaded China into showing their cards. Might

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I say it's rather brilliant. And I know some people
are still down on the market, but market's now up
twenty two hundred points. I bet it's gonna recover all
of it. Plus you've got tax guts, got drill, baby, drill,
No tax and overtime, no tax on tips. We boxed
in the Chinese Communist Party. They got nowhere to go.
You've got Japan in South Korea flying into America to
go make deals. So what now President Trump has done

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and he says, okay, here are the tariffs, I mean business,
We'll do a ninety day pause to negotiate. Except on China.
China's surrounded. Where's China going to turn? The South Koreans
and the Japanese, the Vietnamese are not going to pick
up the calls from China. Where's China gonna turn They're
gonna return to, They're gonna turn to Namimbia or the
Central African Republic, one of their small little colonies in Africa.

(01:32:16):
Understand this. This is great leverage now going into the
Iranian negotiations as well. The timing when it comes to
Iran is perfect. And now Russia is still trying to
cozy up to the United States regarding Ukraine and President
Trump barrilliant deal maker, brilliant not putting any extra sanctions

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or tariffs on Russia, saying that's a carve out. We've
got to work on this. Diplomatically. So Russia is very careful.
Right now, Russia says, oh boy, we don't want to
Russian to China. So Russia is saying, I don't know.
He's uniting the world against the true enemy. Exactly what
our foreign policy position should have been. All on, we
subsidized the rise of the Red menace. You see, everyone

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thinks that Trump was a madman, and all this turns
out that this was chess moves and not checkers. The
entire world has been scrambling. All it took was one
week of courage, and now the markets are up so high.
People are scrambling the buy stuff five percent, six percent. Look,
markets go up and markets go down very rarely, and
Blake would agree. Do you see a parabolic increase on
the Nasdaq of nine percent in a moment of five minutes. Understand,

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this is a game of brinksmanship. Now what cars do
the Chinese Communist Party have. Every day that that one
hundred and four percent tariff remains on China, every single
day that it remains, their market is going to collapse.
They need us way more than we need them. And look,
China still has treasury bills. Bessett had the perfect answer.
By the way, on bonds, we had a great year.

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We had a great tenure, auction, phenomenal. If we can
sustain the dumping of American treasury bills by the Chinese
Communist Party, they want to try to push up our
ten year note. That's what they're trying to do. They're
gonna try to keep on dumping bonds as leverage. If
we can sustain that. I'm telling you right now, it's theoretical.

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I don't want to say it's likely. The Chinese Communist
Party could be in collapse. Governments collapse all the time,
specially totalitarian ones. The media portrayed Donald Trump as if
he had a pair of twos. Turned out he had
pocket ass. President Trump held the cards of the entire time.
And now you've got the Japanese, the South Korean's, the Vietnamese,

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the EU. My opinion, we got to stop the soul
fifty first state talk with Canada. I get it, it's funny,
it's lighthearted. No, no, no, we need to bring in the partners
closer to us. We need to bring we need to
bring in our strategic allies. This is big league stuff
right now. The Chinese are freaking out and anyone that
is leveraged that has ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

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They are wondering are these capital markets going to be
joined it out? Are are they gonna get choked out?
Bestin has said, quote, we've had more than seventy five
countries contact us. I'd imagine after today there'll be more.
It's gonna take some time. In President Trump wants to
be personally involved, deal by deal by deal by deal,
saying that each one will have a bespoke, unique negotiation.

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No one size fit all. It's a line around the block.
It's like landing planes at LaGuardia on a Friday night.
You look up in the sky and you got like
fifteen planes and you're lining them up, boom boom boom, boom,
boom boom, one after the other. Lunch. You got Vietnam
two pm, you got Lust, four pm, you got Cambodia.
Six pm. You got Madagascar for dinner. You got the

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Japanese for breakfast, you got the South Koreans. You line
them all up and you just start breaking out these deals.
You gotta buy more of our l and G. You
gotta be buy more of our manufacturing. You gotta buy
more of our export of beef. You gotta buy more
of our corn, you gotta buy more of our ag.
You just line it up. You have your demands and
these times, these deals will take time to iron out,
but neither. Ninety day pause shows that we mean business.

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And I'll tell you the Chinese Communist Party, where are
they turning to right now? Russia is not returning their calls,
and Irana says, oh my goodness, I don't know because
they got to sit down with President Trump this weekend.
Great day. President Trump knows what he's doing. See you
guys tomorrow