The Charlie Kirk Show, February 13, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts. Now, please correct me if
this is incorrect.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You want non citizens to be counted in terms of
determining the representation for elected officials here at the Capitol,
and you know, by.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Extension, I assume the US capital as well.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Is that incorrect, mister Share, I mean it is absolutely correct.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Let the record reflect then that you just said it
was correct that you want non citizens to be counted.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Mister chair.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
That is, in fact the current interpretation of that clause
in the Constitution that talks about counting the people in
the United States.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Corum is like he is moving so bad. They are
doing a lot, doesn't It's not just the perception of it.
They hit the ground running in a serious way. It's
like genuinely impressive comparison how to how people felt about
Coe Biden being basically absent. I imagine for a lot of
people it's a welcome change.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
You know, the young young people gen z they like
doge and what are you on doing? Because you know,
they don't see they see government as herotic and inefficient,
and they like to move fast and break things ethos
that they want to get stuff done, and they like
resultant yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
And honestly, some.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Of this is pretty annoying because some of the stuff we.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Should have done. Yeah, yeah, you could do some of this.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Thedea of J. D.

Speaker 7 (01:34):
Rockefeller, for instance, being in the Oval Office standing there
while the actual President of the United States is giving
a press conference is going to.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Be absurd in that era, host actual president of the.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
Unst he clearly is he's standing over Trump. I think
it is the weakest Donald Trump has ever looked, as
he couldn't even really stop the child from talking.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, the child had more power in that.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
List, did you see the Unfortunately, Democrats are only focused
on one thing right now, mister muss. The fact of
the matter, he's quite popular. He has the largest platform
in human history, which is of course Twitter slash Acts.
And I think we're missing the vote as Democrats, And
all I'm saying is that sometimes it's better to join
them and actually clay a role in how the strategy works,

(02:15):
rather than so pathetically, frankly try to combat something that
clearly is a steamroller, and Democrats are being steamroller.

Speaker 9 (02:22):
Our government, no matter who is in power, has an
obligation to write these rules to provide reparations for the
sendates of enslaved Africans to eliminate the racial wealth, get
to uplift the black community. White supremacy is rampant in
this country. Just look at the current administration and our
own legislative body. They have contributed to the social and

(02:43):
economic harms, to racial terror black folks have experienced in
this country. Now more than ever, we must acknowledge and
repair those harms.

Speaker 10 (02:51):
As for the actual receipts, we are happy to provide them,
and I actually brought some today because all of you
know I love to bring their receipts. We have contracts
upon contracts that we can send and provide this information
to you. Let me be very clear, we are not
trying to hide anything.

Speaker 11 (03:06):
We have been incredibly transparent and we will continue to be.

Speaker 10 (03:09):
These are screenshots of contracts that those found across our government.
This is a DEI contract thirty six thousand dollars for
US Citizenship and Immigration Services that is against the President's
policies and his American First agenda. This is a three
point four million dollar contract a Council for Inclusive Innovation
at the US Patent and Trademark Office, Department of Commerce.

(03:32):
Another DEI contract that don't identify. I can continue to
go through these.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh I love this one.

Speaker 10 (03:38):
Fifty seven thousand bucks for climate change in Sri Lanka.
What is this doing to continue the interests of the
American people. Absolutely nothing, I want to hear.

Speaker 12 (03:49):
Why.

Speaker 13 (03:49):
But do you think the calling Elon Musk is effective
messaging for confronting what is a potentially irreversible trance information
of the US government?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, he is it.

Speaker 14 (04:05):
I think he's also harming the American public in an
enormous way.

Speaker 12 (04:08):
And what I think is really important and.

Speaker 14 (04:10):
With the American public want is for us to bring
actual weapons to this bar fight.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why do you think other countries aren't judged revenue strict
immigration policy.

Speaker 12 (04:20):
I was born as a man and now I'm a woman.

Speaker 11 (04:23):
What do you think the biggest threat is to the
United States currently? There's a reason that a lot of
the black community doesn't have a father, and it's because
of systemic racism.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
America is the only country where even those who hate
it refused to leave. That's how you know you live
in a great country. It's time that we start talking
to the next generation, not talking down to the next generation.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And that's what we're doing every day.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
There's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from
every angle, but the will to the sea.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Fear not.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
You found the place for truth, the voice from a
generation that still has the will to believe in the
greatest country in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buck a lot, here
we go.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Okay, everybody, radio stations across the country honored to be
with you.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
As always.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Remember, it was the heat of Kamala Harris Bratt summer.
The TikTok kids were all behind Kamala Harris. They were
dancing in the street saying that she's going to be
the next president. There was a sugar high that we
were witnessing in the polls in late July and early August,

(05:52):
looked as if Kamala Harris was the favorite to become president.
It was hard to even grasp and believe. But Kamala Harris,
who had no accomplishments and messed up the border and
was responsible for the blunder between Russia and Ukraine and
talks about being unburdened by what has been she was

(06:13):
the favorite in the betting markets.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And then Chicago came.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
As you know, we went to the Democrat National Convention
in Chicago, Illinois, my hometown.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
We went right down.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
To the floor of the DNC, gotten a little bit
of spats with some folks, and the DNC put on
a good show.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Barack Obama does what Barack Obama does.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
They had all this talk about unity and it looked
as if their poll numbers were gonna be lifted. But
the Trump campaign, through Susie Wild's great credit and to
the whole team there, they had something in their back pocket.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I was tipped off about a week ahead of time.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Now I don't leak and I don't even leak to
my team, and people were messaging me saying, Charlie, what's
going on here? It feels like something's happening. So about
a week ahead of time. So this would have been
the day after the DNC they wanted us to do
the event. I got a message and they say, hey,
would you be willing to help do an event in Arizona.

(07:15):
We think the President's going to come and it will
be really big with some big news. I said, of course,
any way we could do to help, and was working
with James Blair and the whole great team there. I said,
anyway we could help. So then Don called me and
he said, hey, you can't repeat this. You can't repeat this,
but Bobby is going to be endorsing Donald Trump. He said, really,

(07:38):
I said, I mean when Don calls the shot, I mean,
it is as legit as it gets. Now, I've never
told this story publicly because now who cares?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And so in the days leading up to this event,
this was during the DNC, we were going to have
the Our event was Friday, the day after the DNC
ended in Chicago, and so all of a sudden things
started to really move with some momentum Wednesday Thursday, and
Kamala Harris gave her speech and the media was fawning
over it. And then Friday came, Friday, August twenty third,

(08:11):
twenty twenty four, a day that changed American politics for good,
where Bobby Kennedy decided to suspend his candidacy, an independent candidacy,
and endorse Donald Trump for the presidency. A Kennedy endorsing
a Republican. And that was our event right there. And

(08:34):
I got to give Lauren and Tyler and the team credit.
I gotta give him credit. I fought them on those sparklers.
I said, that's I'll waste the money I got us.
What are we doing with these sparklers? What do we wwe?
I gotta give him credit. That's going to be in
the Smithsonian, That's going to be in the Trump Library.
That's going to be an image that will live forever.

(08:59):
That sparkler aesthetic, I mean, that is as good as
it gets. That's been seen by I think all of
humanity at this point. Rfk endorsing Donald Trump was a
moment in history. It was a seismic change in how
our politics has been running. Bobby Kennedy of the Camelot Family,

(09:29):
Bobby Kennedy, who ran as a Democrat for the presidency,
who then ran as an independent, endorsing Donald Trump completely
changed the twenty twenty four election. The Unity Party was born,
and with it came Tulca Gabbard and so many others.
It was a vibe shift, and it came again the
day after the high point. I believe, truly believe this

(09:51):
that Bobby Kennedy endorsing Donald Trump was the beginning of
the end of the Brat summer for Kamala Harris and
Datas support me on this and then eventually led to
the acceleration to election Day, which was Jade Vance's debate
against him Walls. I think the two inflection points were
RFK endorsing Donald Trump, which just cut all their momentum off,

(10:15):
and the brilliance of the Trump campaign team right off
the DNC boom. We come in with the largest possible
endorsement we can and then it wasn't just like an endorsement.
This guy was actively on the ballot in the swing states. Now,
some people were very concerned about voting for Donald Trump
in two thousand and twenty four because they said he

(10:36):
wasn't as strong on COVID as I would have liked.
Bobby Kennedy wrote the book against Anthony Fauci. Bobby Kennedy
has started the Make America Healthy Again movement, and here
it was on stage at turning point, play cut one

(10:56):
seventy three.

Speaker 15 (11:00):
I've known him for so long, for the past sixteen months,
Robert F.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Kennedy junior.

Speaker 16 (11:08):
Man WHOA And he deserves it.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
He deserves it.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
And from that point forward, it was a sprint to
Decision Day when Trump said that WHOA Trump realizing what
he unlocked. President Trump had high energy, high intensity, and
it just went through the moon. And I can tell
you dozens of people, including local patriots here, some of

(11:43):
which are pediatrician. He's a wonderful person, who was he
and I might vote for Trump, might not. And as
soon as Bobby Kennedy entered all In, I could tell
you that there were tens of thousands of suburban moms
in Arizona that voted for Trump because of the RFK wrinkle.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
And then of course we won.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
And I could tell you I was in and around
Mara A Lago as these decisions were being made, and
there was an external pressure campaign by big Pharma, by Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Maderna,
Johnson and Johnson, Eli Lilly, Oh no, don't give Bobby
Kennedy anything important. Put on some board, put him on
some commission. But the President Trump's enormous credit. President Trump,

(12:27):
I don't think has received the credit that he deserves. Here.
He tuned all of that out and said, wait a second.
I ran on a set of promises. I ran on
this idea of making America healthy again. Bobby was very
good to us and good to our campaign. We're gonna
go for it. We're gonna go for the entire program.

(12:50):
There was so much pressure for him not to put
Bobby Kennedy to HHS. Oh he can't be confirmed. Oh
he can't get through a hearing. He's anti vaccine. So
many people would tell me this is the only cabinet
official I care about. Please please put Bobby Kennedy in.
And when you have kids, you know that they're constantly

(13:12):
being poisoned by red dye forty two and blew this.
And President Trump listened to his gut, and he muted
all of the nonsense from the big pharma companies and
trusted his political instincts. What started on August twenty third,

(13:33):
which really was, by the way, a development of a
reckoning for the lockdowns, a development of the reckoning for
anti fauci, has now been completed in a triumph today.
And all of you should rejoice and say thank you
God with delight because it just keeps getting better. As

(13:53):
of this time, right now, high noon on the East Coast,
Bobby Kennedy is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
He's in charge of the largest branch of the federal
government by budgetary measure. He has the biggest budget at
his disposal. And it is now a day of reckoning

(14:15):
for the food companies that are poisoning our kids for
the pharma companies that have been lying to us. And
he is now the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
President Trump deserves the credit, and now Bobby Kennedy has
the baton to make America healthy again, to make our
kids healthy again. Praise the Lord.

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Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh, they don't write songs like that anymore. I don't
know if there's been a good piece of music written
in the last ten years. Prove me wrong. Can someone
tell me there's been a good piece of music written
in the last ten years?

Speaker 17 (17:37):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
And send it to me? And no, no country, country
is not allowed. Blake agrees. Okay, he does agree. That's
good because.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Usually Blake will come in with some sort of contrarian. Take. No,
actually Xyz is good.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
No, I just I don't think that there you know what,
Actually I stand corrected. No, No, you're right, you're right.
I actually do think there's a good piece of music
that's been written. I think that song that they were
singing about Elon Musk. Where is it? We got to
play it again? Where is the new Democrat anthem? Where
is my Pavaratti? We gotta play it again? The Whitney Houston.

(18:11):
I'm trying to see it in the cut sheet, Ryan,
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
One? Two? This is actually the best song of the decade.
Play cut one? Which side are you on? Where side
are you on?

Speaker 12 (18:28):
Me?

Speaker 10 (18:28):
We'll fight against jogh where fight n.

Speaker 12 (18:35):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Scamp within our walls, will fight from Dong to duscap.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Okay, So I do stand correct that that is a
good piece of music. Actually it's an old communist song
with the lyrics repurposed. So that's your little tidbit for
the day. You're seeing a transformation and the opposition is
not there. They they don't know which front to fight on.

(19:02):
This maximalist approach. By the way, it's only going to
get even more serious for the Democrats. Look at how
much President Trump is doing. Look how much he is
getting done without his cabinet. His team is only multiplying
and increasing. And to use maybe a football analogy, it's

(19:23):
as if he's just going to keep on subbing in
new defense alignment, fresh legs, Boom, Brook Rollins is confirmed, Boom.
We got Kelly Leffler coming in, Boom, we got Linda McMahon.
We got every single one of these cabinet officials that
are coming in, and all of these old plays. The
Democrats are saying, well, it's a constitutional crisis. And by

(19:45):
the way, this is all without cash. And we have
a whole team that is coming in to the lower level.
We got deputies coming, we got interim directors coming. This
is all just filling out the top. Wait till we
start to really plug in play and get these change makers.
And I could tell you the Trump team, the personnel office. Wait,

(20:07):
do you see some of these killers that are coming in.
And not all this stuff necessarily gets all the headlines,
but this is the stuff that comes and affects your
life on a daily basis, that executes the stuff that
President Trump wants to do on energy, on border, immigration, speech, trade.
So the Democrats are trying to put up this fight.
What's the best they got? And now they're screaming into
the wind with this new song of Theirs. I cannot

(20:31):
put into words the profundity of Bobby Kennedy being HHS Secretary.
We have a whole conversation coming up with Alex Clark
on this. It's massive, it's a major It's going to
change the Republican Party permanently for the good. And you know,
people always say, well, how do we win over women?
How do we This is how you win over women
by making America healthy again. Meanwhile, Democrats that are putting

(20:56):
up advertisements saying they want to kill Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's not a joke.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
This is Democrat Representative Robert Garcia calls Elon Musk a
bad name and then calls for actual weapons to be
used against Elon Musk and doge. This is all they
have is violence at the core of the left, at
the core of a liberal as someone that would use
the sword if they had it. They are very violent

(21:23):
people at their core. They always have it. They can't debate,
they can have conversation, so they'll resort to these tactics.
And of course this is cliche, but it's worth doing.
Before I play cut one forty six, Imagine there was
a billboard in downtown d C. Help eliminate XYZ Tony Blinken.

(21:46):
They lost their mind over a noose on January sixth
that wasn't used or going to be used.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
They lost their mind over it.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You shouldn't be surprised that Trump was nearly killed, indicted twice,
actually indicted four times, seven hundred years in prison. They're
going to do everything they possibly can to try to
murder this movement because they can't beat us, so they're
going to try to take weapons. And now we're very
aware of that. I'm aware of it. We have that
full time security. This is not a joke. This is
who these people are. Play cut one forty six.

Speaker 13 (22:17):
I want to hear why, But do you think that
calling Elon Musk a is effective messaging for confronting what
is a potentially irreversible transformation of the US government.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, he isn't.

Speaker 14 (22:35):
And I think he's also harming the American public in
an enormous way. And what I think is really important
and what the American public want is for us to
bring actual weapons to the sparfight. This is an actual
fight for democracy, for the future of this country.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, I mean they want this to be settled in
the streets with Antifa just trying to rile people up.
They want us murder, they want us guilt. That's why
a lot of them celebrated Donald Trump getting shot and
that it wasn't successful. Now this is everything for them.
We're going after the core of their meaning and we're
just getting started.

Speaker 1 (23:08):

Speaker 18 (23:16):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates, president Trump's pick to head up the Department
of Education. Linda McMahon is on Capitol Hill right now
facing a confirmation hearing. What is interesting is that her
job very well could be obsolete very soon if in
fact she is confirmed, because President Trump is looking to
do away with the Department of Education. That hearing again,

(23:39):
has been going on for the last thirty to forty
five minutes. They're taking a quick break, so we will
kind of keep you updated on the situation there. In
the meantime, we have an update on a breaking news
situation involving hamasa's plan to release more Israeli hostages on Saturday.
The terror group says it's going to work to quote,
remove all hurdles in order to release three more hostages.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
The big picture is if Hamas.

Speaker 18 (24:03):
Follows through on the follows through excuse me, the ceasefire
deal with Israel is expected to move forward. Hamas started
a diplomatic game of chicken earlier this week when the
group accused Israel of breaking the terms of the truce,
claiming that the IDF failed to allow tents and shelters
into the war zone in Gaza. Well, this morning, it
appears that Hamas is blinking as President Trump encouraged an

(24:26):
end to the ceasefire if the hostages aren't returned by
noon on Saturday. President Trump's campaign promised to end the
war between Russia and Ukraine appears to be materializing as well.
A meeting is set for tomorrow in Munich, Germany, during
which Vice President JB. Vance and Secretary of State Mark
or Rubio will lead a delegation to begin peace talks.

(24:47):
The move comes on the heels of Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth saying that NATO membership for Ukraine is off
the table. Wednesday, President Trump spoke with both presidents Vladimir
Putin and Voldemir Zawinski.

Speaker 15 (25:00):
I think when the war ends. One thing he was
very strong about. He wants it it ends. He wants
it to end, and as President Putin said that he
wants it to end, he doesn't want to end it
and then go back to fighting. Six months later, we
talked about the possibility. I mentioned it a cease fire
so we can stop the killing, and I think we'll
probably end up at some point getting a cease fire

(25:20):
in the not too distant future.

Speaker 18 (25:22):
Also happening today, President Trump expected to announce reciprocal tariffs.
That announcement could come at any moment. Of course, the
moment it happens, we'll be covering it for you here
on Real America's Voice, he said yesterday during a news conference.
Those reciprocal tariffs simply mean whatever tariff's other countries are
slapping on us will return to them.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
That's a quick chuck. If you're health, this movement.

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Speaker 12 (27:28):
Yeah, great to be here, Charlie.

Speaker 19 (27:29):
What a morning, What a morning, What a victory, Charlie,
Praise the Lord.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I mean, I want to just take a step back here, Kane.
I mean you are kind of the news Svengali. You
see it all, you monitor it. I mean you and
I have had not a chance to catch up for
quite some time.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Caine.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Give us your take of the the maximalist approach the
flood the Zone that we are seeing from President Trump
and his team.

Speaker 12 (27:58):
Yeah, it's it's breath taking, Charlie.

Speaker 20 (28:00):
I never expected you and I have these discussions. We
knew it was going to be aggressive, We knew he
was going to come hard and fast. But I don't
think anyone had had any idea what flood the Zone
would really mean. And I don't think you know, we
anticipated the success of it and the idea of the
philosophy behind giving them too many things to chase too many.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
Ideas, and yet I didn't anticipate that it was going
to work this well, you know all you know, the.

Speaker 20 (28:26):
Resistance, it hasn't really been able to get started.

Speaker 12 (28:29):
Yeah, we're starting to see.

Speaker 20 (28:30):
Some law there, judges are stepping in the way, but
for the most part, it's just been tears. It's just
been a trail of tears of Democrat teers and media teers,
and it's this. You know, it has to go back
to the strategy. And I'm sure you know I don't
since I'm working all the time, I don't get an
opportunity to listen to all of your sort of opening monologues.

Speaker 12 (28:51):
But one of the things that's been sticking out.

Speaker 20 (28:53):
To me these last three weeks is this is so
much better than Trump one point zero. You know, we
don't want to say that that it was a good
thing that the nation suffered for four years under Biden,
but I guarantee you that we wouldn't have anything like
this had Trump, you know, been able to assume office
in twenty twenty one. He had four years to sit

(29:17):
and think and ponder every department, every agency, and how
to attack this. And the last thing I'll say is
I throw back to you. You know that we all
love the hobby aer Milai and the chainsaw, and I
remember sort of cautioning people and you know, leading up
to it, to the inauguration, like, look, it's not going
to be like that. We aren't going to be able
to cut agencies like they did in Argentina.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
But I'll tell you this, the doge stuff.

Speaker 20 (29:42):
And the elon mustuff, it reminds me of hobbyer Malaia.
It reminds me of Argentina. It reminds me of winning,
of winning.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
And you know, Cain, what what do you make of
the administration coming with such preparedness, such precision, the executive orders,
the pace, the rapidity.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
The time and exile I think was very good in
a lot of different ways for us. I mean, Kin,
that's where you and I got to know each other.
Where we were the furthest away from the presidency imaginable
when you and I started talking, when you started to
come on this program, I mean, Kan, it was like
Trump was like twelve percent in the betting ondds to
become president. Remember, I mean he was indicted in there
was law fair and you would you and I would

(30:26):
talk late at night and say, man, I don't know
about this, and I mean, he just crawled himself out
of the impossible hole to a place where now he's
the most popular person on the planet, most powerful person
on the planet. I think one of the inflection points
was East Palaestine, Ohio, when he went there, and that
was the beginning. He's like, I'm going to go to
forgotten America. Biden is forgetting them, full court press, and

(30:49):
it's only going to get deeper and better. So we
have some amazing stories here on Citizenfreepress dot com and
it seems as if the American people Kane are large
fully supporting this.

Speaker 20 (31:02):
Yeah, they are. And it's nice. You know, you and
I are pulled junkies. We look at all of this stuff,
even though we know to discount certain things, and.

Speaker 12 (31:12):
But it's been phenomenal.

Speaker 20 (31:13):
That CBS News poll that came out, incredible, great news.

Speaker 12 (31:17):
Margaret Brennan was not pleased. You're right about how you.

Speaker 20 (31:21):
Know when I started coming on your show, you know,
it was Desanta's, It was all the Santas that was
the talk.

Speaker 12 (31:26):
As you said, As you said.

Speaker 20 (31:27):
Trump's betting odds were low, they were below fifteen fifteen percent.

Speaker 12 (31:32):
Desannas looked like he was ascendant, and.

Speaker 20 (31:36):
Yeah, you know, I'd sort of forgotten about East Palestine
kicking that off. But that created so much sort of
angst and unrest and anger at the Biden administration. And
Trump came in and he sort of showed what a
real president does.

Speaker 12 (31:50):
I mean, he replaced Biden.

Speaker 20 (31:52):
Biden never made it to East Palestine at least and
not in those not in those first eight months.

Speaker 12 (31:57):
So you know, it obviously gave him time.

Speaker 20 (32:00):
But in terms of you know where we are now
three weeks later, if you had said to me a
month ago, Okay, Trump's gonna go shock and off days
of thunder. He's not gonna stop executive orders, you know,
day after day, I wouldn't have thought that his that
his poll numbers would be this good. There's something I've
got in the stack this morning, forty two percent of

(32:20):
black men approve.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh yeah, it really is.

Speaker 20 (32:24):
And Trump's you know, it's the expansion of the populist
base from white working class to black working class, Hispanic
working class, and Asian working class. That's sort of you
know what we're looking at. We're thinking bigger. You know,
where is this going to go?

Speaker 12 (32:38):
In twenty twenty eight, can we can.

Speaker 20 (32:40):
We maintain the hold on the House, Senate and the presidency.
And it's looking good for populists, you know, for populism,
for nationalists, populism.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
Everything is sort of falling in order.

Speaker 20 (32:51):
The media is even being you know, though he's still
being attacked. The media isn't being as aggressive as they
used to be because they're seeing these approval ratings and
it's just sort of all coming together. Five hundred executive orders.
I think we've had five hundred in three weeks. These
are big numbers, and we didn't see it coming. And

(33:11):
you and I, you know, we started in the darkness
of future indictments. I mean that's when when I started
coming on. Yes, but how is Trump going to handle
these indictments?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
So we had you on.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
We had you on every week, sometimes multiple times a week,
and everybody in this audience deserves incredible credit for how
you had the resolve and you stayed focused.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Let's talk about Bobby Kennedy King, what do you think was.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
The significance of Bobby Kennedy's role in this last election
and what does this mean for the Republican Party moving forward?
Him as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Boy, that
feels good to say, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (33:48):
It does.

Speaker 20 (33:48):
I think it's five points. It's four or five points, Charlie.
He brought independence. We were looking at the independent numbers before
Kennedy came aboard and they were not that strong. They
were more or less closely split between Trump and the
Democrat and Trump and Kamala. So I think it was
you that may have made the difference in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 12 (34:07):
There's so many things. It's very difficult to pinpoint.

Speaker 20 (34:09):
Everyone worked, TPUSA worked, Scott Presler worked, we had we
had sort of massive grafts roots. But in the bigger picture,
the bigger above board picture, the Kennedy, Kennedy coming on
to team Trump endorsing Trump. That's four points of independence.
And we saw it in the numbers. We saw it
immediately within the next week. So it was a beautiful decision.

(34:31):
And I'll even admit I was, you know when Kennedy
first stuck his head in the ring going back, you know,
long before he endorsed Trump, I was ready for Trump
to to take him as vice president. This is long
before JD. Van's and that'll show people sort of how
wide my birth can be. But I knew how important
I know how many independent sort of left leaning independence,

(34:53):
normally voting Democrat. These people loved Kennedy and getting him
on our team was huge, and getting him through the Senate,
it's huge.

Speaker 12 (35:00):
And the last thing is I'll say as I'll follow through.

Speaker 20 (35:03):
You know, Charlie, there was less there there was less
resistance to Kennedy and Tulci Gabbard. Why because of what
happened with Pete Hegseth and a lot of that is
you and TPUSA. You know, we sort of put our
we put our hair up on the back of our
next and we said, look, guys, if you're not gonna
go along with the MAGA agenda, this is what we're
gonna do to you. We don't know who it's gonna be,

(35:25):
but it's gonna be powerful, and we're gonna primary you guys.
And and they got in line, Charlie, they got in line,
and and and.

Speaker 12 (35:31):
They did what the American people wanted.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
So so Cain.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
We also now have Tulci Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence.
We have this incredible team of superstars filling this administration,
and the pace is only going to increase. I hope
everyone understands. Get used to this tempo. People say, oh,
it's not sustainable. No no, no, no no. This is the
tempo without the cabinet. Imagine the tempo. By the way,
can we just brag on how great Marco Rubio has been?

(35:58):
I mean, can we just say how great Pete hag
Seth has been? I mean, this is the Big Three.
I hope you guys understand. I got three people that
I just can't say enough good stuff about. Marco's been
a ten, Pete hegg Seth has been a ten, and
jd Vance has been a ten. As we do this
program right now, Donald Trump is calling shots. He's the
offensive coordinator. He is the air traffic controller. We got
Marco rubiosaal and all the Nicaragua, Guatemala and Venezuela and

(36:19):
Colombian problems, which is immense because all the migration stuff
starts there. He's speaking Spanish to them and speaking true
to them. We got Pete Hegseth doing pt with our
troops at five hundred where Lloyd Austin couldn't walk up
a flight of stairs. And then the other side, we
got Jade Vance. He was in Paris. He's going to
Doccou and now he's doing Munich tomorrow, given one of
the most important speeches for a sitting vice president in

(36:41):
all in modern American history.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I mean, Caine min and a half remaining. Have we
ever seen a.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Rock star roster of all stars simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Fighting for the republic.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Meanwhile, you got Elon Musk going around with the metaphorical hammer,
breaking every piece of government waste can get in contact
with Kane, I.

Speaker 20 (36:58):
Know, it's a beautiful thing. And you made all my
points for me with Rubio. It's the Spanish. That's what
stuck out to me is he's going to these countries,
he's speaking their language, they're loving them, they're accepting them,
and you know, and Malai sort of sort of paved
the way. And Bouquete, So that's beautiful headset.

Speaker 12 (37:15):
As you said, working.

Speaker 20 (37:16):
Out pt you know, Lloyd Austin would have been wearing
two masks and advisor. You got jd Vance making history
in Europe sort of, the populism.

Speaker 12 (37:28):
Is following him.

Speaker 20 (37:28):
You've got Musk, as you said, with the hammer and
russ vote. These guys are making You know, Charlie, you're young,
but I know a lot of why you got into
politics and started TPUSA. Is the debt, right, The national
debt is that overall issue that young people pay attention to,
and so to watch this stuff happen. You've seen my headlines, Charlie.
I've been waiting for this stuff for twenty five years.
The whole reason I'm interested in politics the national debt.

(37:51):
When I was working at CNN at age twenty one,
that's where I got sort of scooped.

Speaker 12 (37:55):
In on the national debt.

Speaker 20 (37:56):
And Charlie, it was two trillion dollars and I was
freaking out.

Speaker 12 (38:00):
Two trillion. It's thirty seven trillion now, as you know,
so I've never seen anything like it. I agree. The
action will not stop.

Speaker 20 (38:07):
You know, I'm the guy covering it eighteen hours a
day and there's no break, there's no slowdown.

Speaker 12 (38:12):
I love it, Charlie, I love it.

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is a very successful podcast called Podsave America and it
is hosted by the Obama bros. Dan Pfeiffer, Tommy Vitter,
John Favreau, and John Levitt. And here they are on
this clip, and we're going to keep it's a longer clip,
but I want.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
To go through it with you. Lamenting.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
But oh, we should have done this when we were
in office. And this is a perfect picture of kind
of the Democrat mind. Now, hilariously, this is the type
of person that can't get hired at the top of
a Democrat administration anymore. But you can kind of see
that they're kind of in charge of the limp wristed
Mafi over there. It's not a lot of spirit at all,

(42:54):
the spunk because you could see that as they're lamenting
over Doge. It's the perfect picture into what's wrong with
the Democrat Party. Oh we should have, we could have.
Why didn't we It's because they're missing that kind of
masculine energy to go forth and to change. Watch this
clip very carefully. These were all of kind of senior

(43:15):
aids to Barack Obama. Again, their podcast is very popular
and I respect that, but they're going through talking about
how when Elon Musk is doing is working, that they
wanted to do some of the stuff and they couldn't,
and that gen Z likes it. Very telling. Clip here,

(43:36):
play cut one eighty two, keep my mic on.

Speaker 21 (43:39):
And also, as much as I want to throw all
of Trump's campaign promises in his face, like the price
of eggs is not down, You've not ended the war
in Ukraine, et cetera, et cetera, he said he do
in twenty four hours. I think most voters get that
it was a shtick and they're going to give him
some time to actually get things done.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Trump is like he is moving so fast. They are
doing a lot, doesn't It's not just the perception of it.
They hit the ground running in a serious way. It's
like genuinely impressive. Impressive in a dark and ellen sinister way,
but it's nonetheless impressive. And if you're turning on the
news every day and hearing about all these different things
Trump is doing and all the different criticisms coming out

(44:15):
of it, you may not like all of it. But
like in comparison how to how people felt about Joe
Biden being basically absolutely felt. I imagine for a lot
of people it's a welcome.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Change the energy, and he's signing things and he's affected
all that. I think that is playing extraordinarily well.

Speaker 21 (44:30):
I don't want to seem like you're opposed to government efficiency,
but obviously now they're just rampaging through like the government
Venmo and shutting.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just lamenting our situation.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Me too, No, I love it.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
I felt the same way because I've seen the messaging
memos and it's like, you know, the young young people
gen Z they like Doge and what Elon's doing because
you know, they don't see they see government as sclerotic
and inefficient, and they like the move fast and break
things ethos and they want to get stuff done and
they like the results, and it's like, yeah, we yes,
of course we all want that. We all know that
government is slow. We all know the government can be inefficient.

(45:04):
We all know that the bureaucracy can be bloated. We
all worked in the White House. We tried to reorganize
the government, didn't We tried to find efficiency.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
It's hard to do and honestly, some.

Speaker 20 (45:11):
Of this is pretty annoying because it's some of the
stuff we.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Should have done, right. Yeah, yeah, no, no, you could do
some of this. You just got to talk s sheen
Z to them. You're like, I can dig these dojah cats.
Oh my god, that was horrible. You see, you got
John Fathreau.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, we wanted to do this, but we couldn't and
it's really frustrating and I don't know why we couldn't
do it.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Then you got that other guy. I don't even know
his name.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
This is really frustrating. And no, it's very important because
these are mid level managers that have graduated to podcasting
and they found themselves on the losing end of every
single seventy thirty issue. But understand, you got masculine determinative,
go forth and conquer, go west, young man energy that
is now in the White House. That's not this little

(45:56):
mid level management, mid level management.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Ethos.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I mean, you got a bunch of fenboys over there,
that's what the Democrat Party is. Well, maybe we have
to have a little bit of a council and a committee,
and we can't offend other people.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
We wanted to do it, but you couldn't do it.
You don't have what it takes.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
You don't have the the intestinal ford it, you have
the grip, you don't have the spine. It's not just
about ideas and policies. It's about do you have the
DNA and the fiber and the Democrat Party doesn't. That's
the best that they have to offer. But of course
they took after their bolls Obama. Obama was just there
as a mid level manager community organizer time. And now
they're realizing they're losing. Oh yes they are. DOJE is

(46:37):
incredibly popular. It's popular with young people, it's popular with
people of all ages, but especially gen Z because yes,
we should break government.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It doesn't work for you.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
We're borrowing trillions of dollars that we don't have and
the Pods Save America femboys. They should be lamenting their position.
It doesn't look too good for them. Second hour coming up.

Speaker 18 (47:15):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News Break.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
I'm Terrence Bades.

Speaker 18 (47:19):
We begin with an update on hamasa's plan to release
more Israeli hostages on Saturday. The terror group says it's
going to work to quote remove all hurdles in order
to release three more hostages. The big picture is if
HAMAS follows through the ceasefire.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Deal with Israel is expected to move forward.

Speaker 18 (47:36):
HAMAS started a diplomatic game of chicken earlier this week
when the group accused Israel of breaking the terms of
the truce, claiming the IDF failed to allow tents and
shelters into the war zone. Well this morning, it appears
that HAMAS is blinking, as President Trump encouraged an end
to the cease fire if the hostages aren't returned by
noon on Saturday. President Trump's campaign promised the war between

(48:00):
Russian Ukraine appears to be materializing as well. A meeting
is set for tomorrow in Munich, Germany, during which.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Vice President J. D. Vance and Secretary of State.

Speaker 18 (48:09):
Marco Rubio will lead a delegation to begin peace talks.
The move comes on the heels of Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth saying that NATO membership for Ukraine is off
the table. Wednesday, President Trump spoke with both Presidents Vladimir
Putin and Vladimir Zelenski.

Speaker 15 (48:25):
I think when the war ends. One thing he was
very strong about. He wants it at ends. He wants
it to end, and as President Putin said that he
wants it to end, he doesn't want to end it and.

Speaker 12 (48:35):
Then go back to fighting.

Speaker 15 (48:36):
Six months later, we talked about the possibility. I mentioned
it a a cease fire so we can stop the killing.
And I think we'll probably end up at some point
getting a ceasefire in the not too distant future.

Speaker 18 (48:48):
And back here in the United States, the reconciliation budget
process is underway in front and center, particularly when it
comes to the Department of Government Efficiency. The House Subcommittee
on DOGE kicked off its oversight work related to the
Elon Musk effort on Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
The focus of the inaugural hearing.

Speaker 18 (49:05):
Of that committee was on medicaid spending, specifically two point
seven trillion dollars in improper payments despite a partisan divide.
The goal of the committee is to work hand in
hand with President Trump to root out waste, to fix
broken payment systems, and to investigate fraud schemes. The committee's chairwoman,
Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, tells me that she is

(49:27):
already laying out an ambitious agenda.

Speaker 22 (49:30):
In the next coming days, my committee, we will be
issuing a report with our solutions, whether it's legislation, whether
it's cuts, whether it's working with chairs of committees of
jurisdiction to actually bring these solutions into action. These are
important actions that can take place, for example, on the

(49:50):
reconciliation budget.

Speaker 18 (49:52):
The congress woman also says using technology could help save
American taxpayers as much as five hundred billion dollars by
stopping improper payments. The next committee hearing is already scheduled
for next month.

Speaker 22 (50:05):
Well.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Federal workers who.

Speaker 18 (50:06):
Dragged their feet and didn't accept President Trump's buyout offer
maybe sol The window to take advantage of the so
called deferred resignation program closed at seven pm Wednesday, just
hours after a federal judge in Boston lifted the temporary pause.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
On that program.

Speaker 18 (50:22):
Now that's significant in light of President Trump's latest executive
order allowing Elon musk in DOGE to decrease the federal workforce.
As for the buyout, unions representing more than eight hundred
thousand federal workers sued the Trump administration, calling the program
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Email us as always freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com
and subscribe to our podcast. Joining us now is Josh Hammer,
Senior editor at large from Newsweek and host of The
Josh Hammer Show. There is a lot going on with
the judicial activism right now that needs to be explained.
There's a new article from Unheard by Josh Hammer anti
Trump judges spark a legal crisis. They're the ones sparking

(52:49):
a legal crisis. Josh, Welcome to the program. What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 12 (52:55):
Charlie is?

Speaker 19 (52:55):
First of all, I think judicial activism is probably, of anything,
a charitable way of describing what we're seeing on here,
my friend. I mean this, if anything, is a judicial insurrection.
I mean, this happened during the first Trump administration. So
I think back all the way actually to the year
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. It was in the latter years
of the Trump presidency that the number of Nation one
injunctions that were imposed against the Trump presidency actually then

(53:19):
exceeded all the previous presidents combined. In fact, that Bill Barr,
back when he was Attorney General, gave a speech to
the American Legal Institute, the Law for Institute, actually decrying
the practice of nationwe injunction. So this is not the
first time this has happened to President Trump in power.
But those judges have not learned their lesson from the
first time. Partially that's because Scotis has derelicted its duty.

(53:42):
The Supreme Court has not actually taken a case, Charlie
as to whether or not any of this is constitutional
in the first place. And I guess I'll cond just
cussed right to the chase there on that point and
say that no, no, none of this is legal. None
of this is constitutional. The media, Charlie. Day in and
day out, they're accusing Donald Trump and jad Vans and
Elon Muska fomenting constitutional crisis because they're governing with all

(54:02):
these executive orders. They're having Elon Musk go into the
treasury payment system.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
There.

Speaker 19 (54:07):
First of all, Republican administrations, conservatives in general, Charlie, were constitutionals.
We respect the separation of powers, We respect the rule
of law. If there is an actual action that exceeds
the legitimate confines of his fear of governance, then that
is where the judiciary comes in to rein end. But
what judges are doing right now all across the country
on basically everything that Donald Trump has done since he
came into power, everything from birthright citizenship to Elon Muskin

(54:30):
doze going into the treasury payments. There, Judge McConnell and
Rhode Island threatening criminal contempt, criminal content of the Trump
administration unless they subject all their discretionary spending and funding
decisions through his puny little judicial desks there deep in
the bowels of the very blue state of Rhode Island.
There this is wildly beyond the judicial power of which

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Article three of the Constitution speaks, and I know that
because people have been writing about this actually for a
very long time. We can go all the way back
to Thomas Jefferson at least in eighteen oh four, or
writing a letter to Abigail Adams, the wife famously of
his partisan rival John Adams. Thomas Jefferson famously said that
to allow the judiciary to settle all questions, even when

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it comes to the legitimate authority of the other branches
of the Congress or the executive branch, would be too
risk despotism. Abraham Lincoln really said it best in his
first inaugural address in eighteen sixty one, where he said
that the candid citizen must confess that where you have
ordinary litigation between two parties and that somehow results in
fixing national policy for all of the people throughout the land,

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because a court says so, that is at that point
the people will have ceased to be their own rulers,
because they will have allowed that eminent tribunal aka of
a court, to be a juristocracy. This is judicial supremacy.
But that is not the American system of governance. There,
Judges Charlie, in our system of governance, in our constitutional structure,
judges have the power to bind the parties to a

(55:56):
case period, full stop, end of story. Anything beyond that
it is persuasive authority that can or cannot be listened to,
depending on whether the legal reasoning is cogent and coherent.
But the executive, the executive branch has every ability in
the world to faithfully interpret the Constitution and to enforce
the Constitution within their legitimate sphere of influence. The birthright
citizenship thing will be a very good example there. Scotis

(56:18):
has never definitively ruled one way or the other as
to whether or not there is birthright citizenship for the
children of illegal aliens aka anchor babies. In fact, there's
a lot of evidence that there is that that's not
supposed to been, that is not constitution require. So, because
that's an unresolved question, the executive can one thousand percent
choose to enforce its own understanding at some point sooner

(56:39):
rather than later. Basically, asap here, the United States Supreme
Court is going to have to take a direct challenge
to the entire practice of so called nationwide injunctions, and
as Clarence Thomas alluded to in his concurring opinion back
in the twenty eighteen case of Trump versus Hawaii, the
landmark immigration case. As Thomas said in his concurring opinion,
scotis is going to have to reign in these lower
court judges, going to have to happen.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I think, asap, what.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Does that look like, reining it in in practice? Because
the juristocracy's exactly right.

Speaker 19 (57:09):
So in practice, I think the most concrete theme that
Scotus can do is to say that nationwide injunctions are
actually not a thing. And I think to this law
of the article here, I guess we'll nerd out just
for a second here. So there was a law of
the article in the Harvard Law Review in December twenty
seventeen by a fantastic conservative legal scholar by the name
of Sam Bray. He's actually currently teaching in Notre Dame
Law School, probably the single greatest piece of legal scholarship

(57:31):
on the question of so called nationwide injunctions. And he
just persuasively demonstrates over the course of this legal scholarship
that it's not a thing there because again the injunctive power.
When courts are issuing an injunction, what they are doing
in actuality is they are telling a certain defendant and
a certain plaintiff that their actions with respect to each

(57:52):
other have to go a certain way, but it does
not reach beyond the amates of the name defendant and
the name plaintiff. There this is a modern thing. There
was no such thing as a nation wan injunction until
the nineteen sixties. That was the very first recorded instance
of one in the late nineteen sixties, I think during
the Lyndon Johnson presidency, maybe the Nixon presidency there, but
it did explode into being until the very very latter

(58:15):
years of the Obama presidency and then really in actuality
during the Trump presidency. This became a thing due to
partisan law fair. It is just lawfair by any other means.
They lost the law fair against Donald Trump the last
couple of years with Jack Smith and Fannie Willis and
Alvin Bragg, and now they're basically just trying lawfair by
any other means. So SCOTUS has the ability here, They
have every ability in the world to say the nationwide

(58:38):
injunctions are not a thing. Additionally, and I'll say this
as well, Congress Congress, which is currently governed by Republicans.
Last eight checks, they have a ton of power, a
ton of power to reign in the lower courts basically
in any way possible. There these lower courts, Charlie I
clerked on one. I clerked on the Fifth Circuit based
in New Orleans, Louisiana. All these lower courts actually don't
even have to exist. They solely exist a Congress discretion.

(59:00):
The only court in America that has to exist is
a Supreme Court. There they can also take very petty,
retributive punitive action Congress if they want to so. One
kind of funny example that I like to use. If
Congress want to say that use mister Justice or mister judge,
are not allowed to use taxpayer dollars to dry clean
your judicial robe just as a way to humiliate you
or embarrass.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
You, they can do that.

Speaker 19 (59:22):
Congress has the ability to regulate the lower courts a lot,
and frankly, I think it's about time that they do it.
Judicial impeachment as well, I think will be another very
very powerful tool.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
That day has probably come.

Speaker 19 (59:31):
We really should see those impeachment articles filed asap, I
think from Jim Jordan House Jesuary.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
So, but can they remove the judges or impeachment? That's
just kind of a slap on the wrist because it
seems as if they're basically permanently in there.

Speaker 19 (59:46):
Well, they would have to be convicted by the Senate.
So that's you know, there in lies the rub right.
I mean, the votes may or may not be there
in the Senate. I'm not going to confidently predict that
the votes would in fact be there, but at a
bare minimum, I think it would be a a serious
black mark there. And you know, look, judges are people
that went to law school. They climb through the ranks
of the legal profession there. They do care about things

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like black marks. It is an actual kind of notch
on the resume, right. So I mean, even if it
is purely symbolic, if it dies in the House, it
is not even taken up by John Thune, although I
think it probably would be taken up at least in
the Senate there. Bring it to a vote at a
bare minimum, get Democrats on the record at a bare
minimum there, it would be at least a pretty sizable
symbolic shot across the bow against one of these activists

(01:00:30):
left wing lower corps judges there, and it would be
a nice civics lesson frankly for the American people as well.

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picture here of a full court press to counter this juristocracy,
I love that term.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
What would that look like?

Speaker 19 (01:04:59):
So there's I think it's an all three branches at
once gang up on these rogue lower courts. So we
can start with the United States Supreme Court itself, and
then we'll kind of work our way backward from Article
three to Article one, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So we'll start with Article three.

Speaker 19 (01:05:12):
There, so the easiest way to reign in lower court
judges is for the United States Supreme Court to do so,
because the federal judiciary actually does work as a legitimate
hierarchy where scotis has the ability to do whatever it
wants to and essentially it's discretionary power to overturn lower
court judges that are running a mock and have run
a mock, so they can and they must take a

(01:05:35):
direct challenge to the entire practice of a so called
nation one injunction, and they should declare that that exceeds
the judicial power of which Article three speaks. The Supreme
Court should also expedite some of these other cases on
the actual underlying substantive constitutional merits. So, for example, the
birthright citizenship case is a very good example. There, we've
now had three lower court judges that have put a
temporary restraining order or some sort of other injunctive relief

(01:05:57):
and joining the Trump administration preventing it from enforced, saying
it's correct interpretation of birthrights re liizenship for a children
of illegal aliens. SCOTUS should fast track in oral arguments
on that. They should get that opinion out by the
end of this term.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
In June.

Speaker 19 (01:06:10):
There I'm not going to confidently predict that that there
are five votes for the correct interpretation there. I tend
to be a little bit of a pestiss when it
comes to that particular issue there. But there's at least
a possibilities, so that thing should be fast tracked, kind
of working your way backwards the executive branch there. Well,
I mean, let's let's take Judge McConnell and Rhode Island, Charlie,
just for example here, So this judge Rhode Island is
threatening to put criminal contempt there. So at that point

(01:06:31):
the trumpministration should basically just flip its fingers at this
judge and say, okay, you and what army I mean,
who's actually going to enforce this criminal contempt order?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
And now now we're getting now we're getting down to
the essence of it, which is, let Marshall send his
army right that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Now, now we're getting down.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
But but that I hate to say it, mister Hammer,
that is actually a constitutional crisis, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:56):
Well, let's let's just play it out a well further, Charlie.
So look the judge of Rhode Island, Judge McConnell here,
he's threatening criminal contempt here. Okay, so who's actually going
to enforce this criminal contempt? That would probably be one
of the US marshals rights, because, as Hamilton says in
Federal seventy eight, the judiciary has neither force nor will,
but merely judgment and literally depends upon the efficacy of

(01:07:16):
the executive branch even to enforce its judgments. What he
means by that is because the US Marshals in actuality,
they're not part of Article three, they're part of Article two.
They're actually part of the Department of Justice. The US
marshall sit under Attorney General Pam Bonding. So even if
McConnell Judge McConnell, that is not center mc connell. Even
if Judge McConnell can get a US marshal to try
to enforce his contempt order, fine, let that play out.

(01:07:38):
Donald Trump can then just issue a pardon. Make everyone happy.
You can literally then just issue a pardon for whichever
official has been found in content by this rogue judge.
End of story. Constitutional crisis totally averted there, and then
finally Article one when it comes to Congress. That's kind
of what you and I were just talking about there.
Judicial impeachment. Start with Judge McConnell's, start with Judge Engelmeyer
in New York City, this other rogue judge who had
that ridiculous ruling about Elon Muskin when it comes to

(01:08:00):
the treasury payments. Those would be two good candidates to
get these articles of impeach and rolling there. And then
I would also support literally just possibly stripping some of
these lower court judge ships. There when you actually start
to make the other judges feel the heat, because if
you are removing certain judge ships, by definition, you're going
to then move some cases from their docket to the
other docket. Judges will get the message sooner rather than later.

(01:08:22):
There are ultimately people that are not going to be
wanting to literally work twenty four to seven there. They
want to sleep and eat and see the wife and
kids like anyone else there. So when you really start
kind of putting some meat on the bone, so to speak,
here with the congressional tools, I think you'll start to
see a good response as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Josh, more broadly, what do you make of how this
administration has been governing? The tempo, the pace, the spirit.
What is your take on Trump two point.

Speaker 19 (01:08:47):
Zero Charlie, it's been a beautiful site to behold. It
has been absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:08:55):
It kind of reminds me of what Steve Bannon said
once during the first Trump administration, when Steve Famley said
that the way to deal with the corporate media and
the democratic elected official class is to flood the zone.
And I'm a big sports yeah, flood it. I mean,
I'm a big sports fan. That's a football term. Steve
is borrowing that from football, and it makes perfect sense.
That's what they're doing day in and day out, Charlie.

Speaker 12 (01:09:16):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:09:17):
I mean there's been so many executive orders that my
buddy Will Sharf, the White House Staff secretary, who have
been friends with few years. We literally found the Jews
against Soros together two years ago. I mean, Will's become
a household name because every day on cable TV you
see him handing off the executive orders.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
It's incredible stuff there. I love it.

Speaker 19 (01:09:33):
Keep them with the head on a permanent swibble there,
make sure they have no idea what's going on. There's
something one day, there's something else the next day.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
There.

Speaker 19 (01:09:41):
But he's doing dynamic stuff, Charlie. And the best part
is it's working the Canada Mexico tariffs, Panama getting out
of China's belt and wrote initiative there the stuff in gods.
I guess we'll see what happens there, but there is
so much good stuff happening. I'm honestly starting to lose
track of it myself.

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Much, looking forward to Johnny.

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Speaker 18 (01:10:32):
While President Trump is focused on leveling the playing field
with our trade partners today, he's also working towards realizing
his campaign promise of ending the war between Russia and Ukraine.
The Commander in Chief deploying Vice President JD. Vance and
Secretary of State Marco Rubio to Munich, Germany tomorrow, to
begin brokering a cease fire and ultimately a peace agreement

(01:10:53):
between those two Warren countries. As part of his deal making,
he's also putting America first by ensuring a return on
investment in Ukraine.

Speaker 15 (01:11:02):
We're getting security on our money. We're going to have
it secured by They have row earth, and they have
oil and gas, and they have a lot of other
things that we're asking for security.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
In our money.

Speaker 6 (01:11:15):
They have agreed to it.

Speaker 16 (01:11:17):
Ukraine has agreed to it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Does you're not standing anymore in Ukraine now?

Speaker 15 (01:11:21):
We are, but we want it secured and the money
is going to be secured now.

Speaker 18 (01:11:26):
All of this maneuvering comes on the heels of President
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Zelenski of Ukraine on Wednesday. It appears the conversations moved
the needle, as President Trump says both men are ready
to talk about peace. The parade of world leaders making
their way to the White House to meet with President
Trump continues today as India's Prime Minister Narinda Mody visits

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sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. However, before that meeting, the President
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watched around the world.

Speaker 15 (01:12:02):
The world has taken advantage of the United States for
many years. They've charged his massive tariffs, so we haven't
charged them. Both friend and foe taken advantage of us.
So we're going to be doing reciprocal tariffs, which is
whatever they charge, we charged very simply.

Speaker 18 (01:12:20):
According to House Speaker Mike Johnson, there may be exemptions
to those tariffs for pharmaceutical and auto industries. Stay tuned
to Real America's Voice for live coverage of the President's announcements.
Federal workers who dragged their feet and didn't accept President
Trump's buyout offer maybe sol The window to take advantage
of the so called deferred resignation program closed at seven

(01:12:41):
pm Wednesday, just hours after a federal judge in Boston
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in light of President Trump's latest executive order allowing Elon
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Speaker 17 (01:14:47):
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Speaker 23 (01:14:57):
Now look where we.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Are, and you you trust the process. I remember you
would be like he better pick Bobby fel and just
trust the president. Trump deserves a lot of credit, does
he not.

Speaker 17 (01:15:07):
He deserves a ton of credit. I'm so thankful for him.
Everything that I've been watching unfold from Bobby Kennedy now
being confirmed officially.

Speaker 23 (01:15:15):
To doge, It's like I'm living in a political dream.

Speaker 17 (01:15:20):
This is like what we've talked about for years of like, oh,
wouldn't it be great if America could just fill in
the blank, you know, And that's all happening now with
President Trump. And I think it's very obvious, like he
knows and I think I believe he said this recently,
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(01:15:40):
on track, we have to get started day one immediately,
everything that we can do. Let's slam it all in
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the grand scheme of things. And this is it, this
is our one chance, and he is really taking seriously
the promise is made on the campaign.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
What does the Bobby Kennedy now confirmation he is now
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Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
That's amazing. It's no more like we've got to get through.
It's done.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
What does that mean for the Republican Party, the Conservative movement,
and then we'll get into health in general.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
But does what does it mean for conservatives?

Speaker 17 (01:16:12):
Well, for conservatives, this is the biggest opportunity we've ever
had when it comes to women voters. So we already saw,
was it, eight points went up in the election for
women for Trump, So that was a massive gain. I
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the partnership with Bobby Kennedy. And so what we have
here is this opportunity to we're dating them, and we
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(01:16:35):
term relationship with the Republican Party. So what we want
to be doing is saying, Okay, so you were willing
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how can we keep you in twenty twenty eight, how
can we keep you you know beyond that. So we
want to make sure that we're not forgetting these new
female voters and that we are showing them like, hey,
we mean what we say. We're going to continue to
prioritize the health issue in America. Because what a lot

(01:16:58):
of people may not realize is that our plans, because
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Speaker 23 (01:17:18):
So this is just the beginning of a.

Speaker 17 (01:17:20):
Very, very long, exciting road ahead to completely transform chronic
disease in America.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
And I wish that Democrats would have gotten on board.
He did not get a single Democrat vote.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Thing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
At Kennedy did not get a single Democrat vote to
become AJJESSIC.

Speaker 17 (01:17:36):
And here's what's even crazier is that you have this
idiot Senator Chuck Schumer saying, well, you know, it's really
a shame that Bobby Kennedy will be the only person
ahead of HHS who has no pharmaceutical background. All the
other people had backgrounds in pharmaceuticals and we're pharmaceutical you.

Speaker 23 (01:17:54):
Know, executives or whatever.

Speaker 17 (01:17:56):
Yes, yes, And he said, that's such a shame. You know,
this is the first time that hasn't happened. And that
is the point that is exactly why we wanted Bobby Kennedy.

Speaker 23 (01:18:03):
That shouldn't be happening.

Speaker 17 (01:18:05):
The person who is in charge of these agencies shouldn't
have ties into these different industries that we're supposed to
be regulating. So that's a huge problem. That's exactly why
Bobby Kennedy needed to get confirmed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
So less on the political side.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Now, what would you say, these are the five things
you want to see done, not just talked about, but
actually substantively policy agenda done.

Speaker 17 (01:18:27):
Okay, well, five things I would say. One, we have
to get the pharmaceutical ads off the air in America,
totally agree. Only America and New Zealand are still doing this.
Other countries think this is crazy. And the reason is
a lot of people think, well, we do that so
that we see the ad and then we go to
our doctor. We go to our physician, we say, oh,
you know, I saw this ad for ozembic, I'd like
to take it.

Speaker 23 (01:18:46):
That's actually not what's going on.

Speaker 17 (01:18:48):
Nobody is watching commercials on TV for pharmaceuticals and then
going to their doctor and requesting it.

Speaker 23 (01:18:53):
You know, hardly anyone.

Speaker 17 (01:18:54):
What's really going on is they are buying the power
to control what news agencies are reporting on so that
is why during the pandemic you didn't see any other
opinions on the COVID vaccine. It's because every single broadcast
was then brought to you by Pfizer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
So that's a problem.

Speaker 17 (01:19:09):
We can't have that, So that has to has to
be done. The other thing is which I believe is
going to happen, This is actually going to be one
of the first initiatives this year, is we're going to
transform school lunches. We're going to get ultra process food
completely out of school lunches. You cannot be feeding kids
artificial dyes, an unbelievable amount of sugar and all of

(01:19:30):
these different ingredients that we know causes behavioral issues in
adverse health outcomes, and then wonder why they can't sit still.
So we have to transform that. I believe that's going
to be one of the first things that happens. We also,
which we're seeing now, twenty three states as of recently
have either taken initiatives to pass bills for fixing their
school lunches or fixing the corruption on the SNAP programs.

Speaker 23 (01:19:52):
For their states.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Food stamps.

Speaker 17 (01:19:54):
Yes, so the food stamps were subsidizing and incentivizing people,
especially poor group. Yeah, to be getting things like soda cheaper.
So we're literally funding the obesity epidemic. And then we're
going through and saying, oh, we have a solution that
will be ozempic. You know, we had that ad during
the Super Bowl they were using using a bunch of

(01:20:15):
Maha lingo.

Speaker 23 (01:20:17):
Yes, using Maha lingo to.

Speaker 17 (01:20:18):
Basically push an ozempic like drug. It was a weight
loss drug. You have to be very careful. Now there
are going to be people that are not with us
that are going to be using Maha type wording and
verge to trick you into buying their drugs.

Speaker 23 (01:20:34):
So just be wary of that. Okay, how many things
was that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Two?

Speaker 23 (01:20:38):
Three? The subsidizing food.

Speaker 17 (01:20:41):
You know, I'd love to see rigorous testing done on
the childhood vaccine schedule.

Speaker 23 (01:20:46):
This is super important to me.

Speaker 17 (01:20:48):
I don't know if you realize this, Charlie, but actually
the cod this is really scary.

Speaker 23 (01:20:51):
So when people say I don't know what you're talking about, we.

Speaker 17 (01:20:53):
Really go through a lot of rigorous testing for every
single vaccine recommended on the childhood schedule. So the COVID
nineteen vaccine, which I think everybody basically agrees, like Ooh,
that was super sketchy. It got through really fast, the
COVID nineteen vaccine, and I can send you and producer Andrew.

Speaker 23 (01:21:11):
Dad on this if you want to share.

Speaker 17 (01:21:12):
It was actually the most rigorously tested vaccine we've ever created,
the COVID vaccine. So that should really terrify Americans right there.

Speaker 23 (01:21:20):
That tells you something's not right.

Speaker 17 (01:21:22):
So I just want to reiterate Bobby Kennedy is not
getting in and banning vaccines. He's actually just saying we
want to test these rigorously to make sure that everything
that is on this recommended schedule should be there and
that parents have informed consent when they're making these decisions.

Speaker 23 (01:21:35):
Nobody's taking away your right to make decisions.

Speaker 17 (01:21:38):
In fact, right now, parents have really no right to
make true informed decisions because if they ask any questions
about the childhood vaccine in most pediatrician offices across America,
they're getting kicked out for asking those questions and saying
they're not allowed to be patients there. So that's something
that's super important to me. Obviously, I care a lot
about the chemicals that are being sprayed on our crops

(01:21:59):
in our air.

Speaker 23 (01:22:00):
Geoengineering is real.

Speaker 17 (01:22:02):
They've testified about it at the UN So that's a
huge concern. We know that that's going on. So chemicals
also in our water.

Speaker 12 (01:22:10):
Now.

Speaker 17 (01:22:10):
I don't know if you know anything about this, but
the one thing that the Biden administration did that I
agreed with right before getting out of office was he
started taking a bunch of things out of tap water.
And then I just saw news that President Trump was
maybe thinking of reversing that decision, which I would disagree with,
and I hope that we can influence.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Him to not the fluorid thing.

Speaker 23 (01:22:30):
Yes, and p fas and different things in our inner lie.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
What was the what is the argument pro fluoride? What
they say it's something with teeth or something, right, who knows.

Speaker 23 (01:22:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 17 (01:22:39):
But the thing is is that actually was an Obama
appointed judge in August I believe so only a few
months ago who had just admitted like, okay, yeah, we
are seeing lower lowered IQ rates and children due to
fluoride exposure.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
And potentially mess up hormones too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
So the I love all of that, and the pharmaceutical
advertisement also, as you mentioned, you mentioned this briefly, I
think could win over President Trump. It's a subsidy of
the news networks that hate him, meaning it's a cash
flow for these major companies CNN, NBC. They receive billions

(01:23:17):
of dollars. And these ads aren't even good. They don't perform,
they're not even well produced. You know, they list all
the side effects on here. I was watching the Bills
Chiefs game, not the Super Bowl, but the Bills Chiefs
games a couple weeks ago, and I was texting my
team literally in them. I was watching this, you know,
great football game. I was having a great time, and
then all of a sudden, this ad pops up and
they say, you know, you might die or you know,

(01:23:39):
people you know might I mean, like all the disclaimers
on this, and I think it could be done just
through a regulatory change through FDA. I don't even know
if it requires Congress. But aren't we like the only
country in the world that allows the pharmaceutical companies to
advertise us.

Speaker 23 (01:23:53):
In New Zealand. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 17 (01:23:56):
So everybody else understands that this is corrupt, it's not fair,
it rigs the system, and somehow America is behind. So
this is really exciting because what we're seeing here is
a It's a peaceful yet a powerful political revolution. That's
what we are we are witnessing. And for people that
I don't know how you could still be a doubter.
But if you are still a doubter that President Trump

(01:24:17):
didn't mean what he said, let me just remind everybody.
I like to say this to the people that really
don't like him and they like to bring up things
like his ego. Okay, let's say, let's say President Trump,
you know, has a little bit of an ego. With
that being said, then don't you think he has a
reason then to make sure that we can prove within
two years that we have reversed the chronic disease epidemic
because because the media outlets, the history books will be

(01:24:41):
required to write glorifying headlines about impositive headlines and he
loves that.

Speaker 23 (01:24:46):
And he wants that.

Speaker 17 (01:24:46):
So if anybody is motivated due to ego issues President Trump,
I mean, that's a good thing for us that he
wants to have positive things written about him. So he's
going to make sure the Bobby Kennedy gets it done
and he's going to support him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
I want to talk about this after the break. My
passionate ones on the list is. I think if you
can't pick every public health fight, but I think there's
one thing that connects to like fifteen problems. I want
you to try to guess what it is. To try
to guess.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Okay, I'm getting now think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
And and by the way, just so we're clear, I
would love to go back to how fast food was
in the sixties and seventies. Beef tallow, no seed oils,
no processed foods.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Instead, it's it's almost poison.

Speaker 23 (01:25:28):
It is poison.

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(01:26:27):
dot com. Alex how doo. People support and follow you.

Speaker 23 (01:26:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Well that's so they gotta spell it radio here.

Speaker 17 (01:26:33):
What is that Culture Apothecary anywhere you get your podcasts
Spotify or Apple Podcasts and Real Alex Clark on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
And it's doing very well.

Speaker 17 (01:26:43):
Right it's top ten, one of the top ten health
and wellness podcasts.

Speaker 23 (01:26:48):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
We have in right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Yep, you're right there, right near the Doctor Heyman Show.
You're number fourteen. It's great. We'll be right back with
Alex Clark.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
The entire ad is a disclaimer. You might die. People
you know might die.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
You also might die the worst possible death imaginable.

Speaker 23 (01:27:44):
I can't believe this is real. Soon it will not be.
This will be a thing of the past.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
And so much of the stuff is unnecessary to take
in the first place. The chronic disease problem is largely
based on diet and activity, and Alex is going to
guess in just about twenty seconds what I think is
the original sin of most of our health problems. I
think there's one thing that is an original sin. Now

(01:28:10):
there's other things as well, but I think there's one
thing that connects to all the others. It's Maha proved.
It's right there. See if Alex, this is what she
does for a living, Let's see if you can guess.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
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what do you think I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Think it is?

Speaker 17 (01:29:19):
I'm wondering if it is the mass production of seed
oils and adding that to our food police.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
But no, it's insulin resistance.

Speaker 23 (01:29:26):
Insulin resistance.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I've done a lot of thinking about this.

Speaker 17 (01:29:29):
Half of teenagers now have diabetes exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
So doctor Jordan Peterson agrees with me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
So insulin resistance is where your body has low diet,
low activity.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
But basically it's excess carbohydrates. So if you if you
don't do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
A step further, it's we are eating way too much
carbohydrates in our diet. And Blake will agree with this.
We worship at the altar of the corn God. We
have highly processed carbohydrates and we do not need as
much carbohydrates as we are eating. So I eat ketogenic.
I almost have no carbs, all good fats, lean protein.
As you know, there's three types of foods proteins, carbs.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
And fats.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
You only need two. We have all three, and we
actually have way too much of one that we don't need.
You only need fats and proteins to live. But if
you don't have proteins, you die, and if you don't
have fats, you die. An only carbohydrates, it's not gonna
be sufficient.

Speaker 17 (01:30:13):
Now listen, my audience is going to be gasping in
pearl clutching when they find out that Charlie just told
me before coming on the air that he's now anti dairy,
so he's not drinking any dairy.

Speaker 23 (01:30:23):
So you're not on my raw milk train.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
No, no, I'm not on the raw milk train. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
It's nothing against you, but I'm just saying i'm not.
But I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
First of all, I'm a big anti inflammation guy. Uh huh,
So I think we are hype. Do you'll agree with this.
We're hyper inflamed in the West. Yes, our brains are inflamed.
We're sluggish. So I got on this super anti inflammation kick.
And dairy does inflame. It definitionally inflames.

Speaker 23 (01:30:47):
And he could have his part.

Speaker 15 (01:30:49):
Food.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Yeah, everyone do what's right for you, but don't eat
too many carbohydrates. That is, I could prescriptively put that
across the board. So insulin resistance, what does that lead
to Type two diabetes? It leads to massive obesity, it
leads to blood pressure problems, cancers. What cancer at its
core is basically is a metabolic dysfunction.

Speaker 23 (01:31:13):
Correct. Yeah, so this is what's really shocking.

Speaker 17 (01:31:15):
I mean, this is part of my entire journey into
the MAHA space. Is understanding, especially with my own dad
dying of cancer, is understanding.

Speaker 23 (01:31:23):
Thank you, that cancer is preventative.

Speaker 17 (01:31:27):
We actually do have the cure for cancer, and it
all happens.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
We have to be front ends to be careful saying
this on radio, so we this is Alex's opinion.

Speaker 17 (01:31:35):
Yes, my opinion is that we do have a cure
for cancer, that it is completely preventable, that we have
all of the information that we already need at our fingertips.
It has to do with diet, it has to do
with lifestyle, basically everything that we have abandoned.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I will agree with this part. I wouldn't use the
word cure because that's a big C word. We do
know that glucose feeds cancer cells.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
That we do know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
And we do know that when somebody has a tumor,
do you tell him to stop eating sugar? That's like
the first thing that we say, right, So we also
know that cancer is largely metabolic dysfunction. And yeah, I
mean also the people that have tumors that eat ketogenically.

Speaker 23 (01:32:14):
Oh yeah, do a lot. So here's something interesting and
also if they have.

Speaker 17 (01:32:17):
So my dad, my dad with his brain cancer, when
I told him he also had heart heart failure, and
when I told him to go to the nutritionists at
the hospital and tell him, hey, my daughter is suggesting
I do keto diet.

Speaker 23 (01:32:29):
The nutritionist said, oh, no, sir, that's terrible. We can't.
You can't be doing that. That's not good for your heart.

Speaker 17 (01:32:34):
So I said, Dad, go back and tell as that
kid where he went to nutrition school. Find out who
was creating the curriculum for his nutritions.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
You don't need to go to nutrition school none.

Speaker 23 (01:32:44):
That's but it's like, this is the absurd stuff.

Speaker 17 (01:32:46):
Actually, tonight, we have a new episode in honor of
Valentine's Day on Culture Apothecary, where I'm interviewing a doctor
who reversed his heart disease and plaque in his leg.
And he was when he was in the hospital, he
had a widow Maker heart attack at thirty four years old.

Speaker 23 (01:33:00):
Was in the hospital.

Speaker 17 (01:33:01):
They immediately wanted to put him on like nine to
twelve different prescriptions.

Speaker 23 (01:33:05):
Didn't want to tell him why it.

Speaker 17 (01:33:06):
Was the same amount of prescriptions for every patient, didn't
individually look at each patient when he said, Hey, what
about magnesium because that would be good for.

Speaker 23 (01:33:13):
What he had going on.

Speaker 17 (01:33:14):
They were like, oh, I don't know anything about that.
They were having him eat fig Newton's and all this
ultra processed food. I mean, seventy percent of the American
diet now is ultra processed food. But he ended up
reversing his heart disease, and it is because he ignored
all of the information that these cardiologists were giving him
in the hospital. So that's tonight on Culture Apothecary. But

(01:33:35):
I have to tell you be excited about this because
we were narrowly, very close at looking at a future
where our kids it was going to actually be impossible
for them to find somebody to marry who didn't have autism.
We're already at one in thirty six children actually might
be lower than that. One in thirty six children being
diagnosed with autism. In fifteen twenty years, all of them

(01:33:55):
would have autism. So hopefully we're going to see a
change right now with this RFKA confirmation.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Alex Clark cultural APO a pocket.

Speaker 17 (01:34:04):
Culture apothe carry Charlie what she said.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Raw milk Central, See you guys tomorrow.

Speaker 18 (01:34:24):
Mm hmm.

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