The Charlie Kirk Show, February 3, 2025

Commentary on tariffs and coverage of JD Vance and President Trump

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirkshow starts now tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I am announcing Canada will be responding to the US
trade action with twenty five percent tariffs against one hundred
and fifty five.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Billion dollars worth of American goods.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
This will include immediate tariffs on thirty billion dollars worth
of goods as of Tuesday, followed by further tariffs on
one hundred and twenty five billion dollars worth of American
products in twenty one. Day's time to allow Canadian companies
and supply chains to seek to find attorneys, and now

(00:59):
is also the time to choose Canada. There are many
ways for you to do your part. It might mean
checking the labels at the supermarket and picking Canadian made products.
It might mean opting for Canadian rye over Kentucky bourbon,
foregoing Florida orange juice altogether. It might mean changing your

(01:23):
summer vacation plans to stay here in Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, you're asking me a question because I'm curiated in here.
Am I going to impose tariffs on the European Union?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Do you want the truthful answer or should I give
you a political answer?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
One thing He's never changed his mind over is teriffs.
You can go back and look in the CNN archives
from the nineties and Donald Trump's talking about tariff.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
From the way he talks about him.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Now, we've had tariffs as long as we've had a country.
They've always been a tool to exact foreign policy goals.
Right now, to solve our immigration problem, we have to
put pressure on Mexican to get in Mexico's attention.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
They have to help us deal.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
With the flood of people coming from Central America. We
can't do it without them.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
The trap is a great tool to do that.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
Well, Look, I look at the numbers of storing Maria,
the crossings on the border down ninety three percent. Wow,
that's a bigger teacrease than under the first Trump administration.
So look, I said that President Trump's is a game changer.
No one has had success he's had on security the border.
He clearly understands we can't have strong national security if

(02:28):
we don't have border security.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
We need to know who's coming.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
In, what's coming in, where's coming in, white's coming in?
And we and we have achieved a success on the
boarder already.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
We know what the Constitution says and the Trump administration, though, is.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Trying to defy it.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
That's sort of the point of how muddled this all
is is they want to confuse and they want to say,
try to stop us.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We think the courts will back us up.

Speaker 9 (02:48):
We'll no further than the fact that Elon Musk went
on x overnight did a Space is Health Court online
and with him with Senator Joni Ernst, who was effectively
backing him up when he's said that he wanted to
get rid of USAID. She made the point that she said,
we want to help starving children effectively in other countries,
but that they're afraid the money is not going where

(03:11):
it's supposed.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
To be going.

Speaker 9 (03:12):
So we've seen it on everything from the gutting of
these kinds of agencies, the attempts to try to eliminate
these agencies, which by the way, you need Congress to
actually do. You can't just stroke of a pen wipe
an agency.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Off of map.

Speaker 10 (03:24):
We've got a president that wants to put America first
and protect people we have. We have one hundred thousand
people a year Christen dying from fentanyl. He ran about this,
ran on this this is not a surprise. He talked
about getting operational control of our border. He talked about
tariffs and improving our standing in the world.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
He's doing all those things, and look no further.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
The best evidence of this.

Speaker 10 (03:45):
Last week Columbia came to the table after that threat
and agreed to take criminals back into their country and
elite immigrants.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
So the fact of matter, it works.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It worked the first time when he was in office.

Speaker 10 (03:56):
We didn't see inflation, we saw wage growth, and we
saw more onshoring of jebs back here to the United States.

Speaker 11 (04:01):
You know, a lot of my Canadian sources say that.
I mean, not only do they say that it's an
advantageous time for the United States, but point out that
Canada really can't withstand in the long term of a
sustained tariff regime.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So I imagine what we.

Speaker 11 (04:18):
Get here is possibly some mitigation of the tariffs if
Canada and Mexico come up with more specific the ways
in which they can help the United States achieve its
goals on border and fentdom.

Speaker 12 (04:31):
Manic just have to understand how hurt and frankly, how
furious Canadians are. Our sovereignty is being challenged, and so yeah,
regular Canadians cross the country are coming up with ways
to stand for Canada, to fight for Canada, to defend Canada,
but mostly to say to our American neighbors.

Speaker 13 (04:51):
Guys, just cut it out, just stop it.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
This is a terrible idea.

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Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, everybody, a happy Monday. Honored to be with you.
This is a very a rapid developing news day, and
we are going to break all of the news down
from this last weekend. Starting on Friday. President Donald Trump
brilliantly put forward not a threat but a tariff promise.

(06:15):
Now President Donald Trump did this in a very thoughtful way.
He's been talking about for quite some time, both on
the campaign trail and of course throughout his two week presidency,
that he was going to use tariffs against countries that
have been taking advantage of the United States and also
to get them to help the United States. President Donald

(06:39):
Trump on Friday afternoon evening said, oh, tariffs will be
applied on Saturday morning, and they were. This last weekend.
We saw a twenty five percent tariff applied on all
Canadian imports, ten percent on energy, twenty five percent tariff
on all Mexican imports, and a ten percent tariff on
all Chinese imports. Now, mind you, this is the brilliance

(07:01):
of President Donald Trump. President Trump wanted to be able
to have a window of negotiation. He knew that markets
were going to get a little jittery. He knew that
markets might have a selloff. So he did this intentionally
on Friday to allow a weekend of some negotiation and
dialogue when markets are closed, so the Dow does not

(07:24):
go down a couple thousand points, so that he has
an ability over a Saturday and a Sunday to accept
some calls in between golf rounds at Trump National in
Palm Beach and the negotiate. Now, the tariff power is
a very unique power given to the President of the United States.
Unlike most economic measures and treaties, it does not require Congress.

(07:48):
The President of the United States has unilateral authority to
be able to apply tariffs on imported goods in the
United States. So what is a tariff? A tariff is
a duty. Could be called a tax, but that is
a very shallow way of interpreting it. Basically, if I
am going to import a car into the United States

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and that car is ten thousand dollars, well, a twenty
five percent tariff would then make that car twelve thousand,
five hundred dollars, and the tariff gets applied on the
imported good. This power is derived from several pieces of legislation,
of course, the Tariff Act of nineteen thirty and then
Section three oh one of the Trade Act of nineteen

(08:34):
seventy four and Section two thirty two of the Trade
Expansion Act of nineteen sixty two. This gives the president
the power to impose tariffs if deemed necessary for national security.
For example, if the United States believes that the import
importation of certain products threatens national security, the President can
apply immediate tariffs. Also, under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act,

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the President can all declare national emergency and use tariffs
and sanctions as he sees fit. The President ran on
an America first industrial policy, rebuilding the heartland of this country,
but most critically and importantly, stopping the flow of drugs, illegals, guns,
and fentanyl into our communities. We've seen the wreckage, the

(09:23):
damage that has happened because of the porous southern and
northern border. Last week we had Josh Parker on the program,
who is hoping to eventually maybe run for a last
defonic seat in New York twenty one as he was
covering the northern border. The terrorists that are coming across
the border and Canada with Trudeau and Steinbaum in Mexico

(09:45):
have not cared a scentilla about closing their border are
mobilizing the military to help stop it. Tariffs are a
long term play. This is not about a week of
stock market swerves. This is about three things. First, we

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are serious about using tariffs to force Mexico and Canada
to take our border seriously. They've been happy to do
nothing and let the entire world pour into our country
illegally for criminal or for welfare reasons. We want them
to be serious about helping fix this, and the way
to do that is to remind them that we can
blow up their economies. Mexico does not exist through the

(10:28):
twenty five percent tariff. They are a fake country that
exists at the will of the American people and at
the pleasure of America. If there is a twenty five
percent tariff, they collapse. And I have a lot of
respect for the Mexican people for the Mexican culture. When
I say that they are fake, it's the sense of
if there is a tariff applied to them, they are
brittle and fragile. They are wholly dependent on trade with

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the United States of America. Holy they do not exist
with a twenty five percent tariff period. The way to
do this is to remind them that we don't want
to destroy your economies, but we're not going to put
up with an invasion. And what we have learned over
the last couple of years is that the way to
stop such invasion and flow of drugs is you must

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have the intermediary countries such as Mexico or Canada work
in collaboration with the United States of America. The second
reason for tariffs is to force other countries to stop
taking advantage us in other ways. We can say, stop
spying on us, stop stealing our patents, stop flooding our
market with drugs. And I must also mention not getting

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as much attention. There is a ten percent import tariff
on all goods from China, and we'll get to that
in a minute. And finally, tariffs are necessary to revive
our own economic production. We become too reliant, way too
reliant on other nations for things such as vitamin C

(11:55):
making critical pharmaceutical manufacturing. Donald Trump using these tariffs has
brought them to the table. And the breaking news in
the last hour, the twenty five percent tariff on all
goods coming from Mexico has been suspended for one month.
In addition, the Mexican government is putting ten thousand of
their own troops on the southern border to repel such

(12:18):
invasion into the United States of America. President Donald Trump
wants that to be zero. President Donald Trump wants to
get to the magic number zero zero illegals coming into
the United States. And yes, we have mobilized our military. Yes,
we are no longer doing catch and release, but still
there's too many people coming across the border. A couple
hundred a day now, mind you, it's down from like

(12:39):
three thousand a day when Joe Biden was president. But
Donald Trump is aiming for Project zero. And understand when
you view all these tariffs, it's about Project zero. No
more tariffs, no more drugs, no more fentanyl, no more illegals.
And you can only do that if you have a
cooperative neighbor. We are told for quite some time. Oh,

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Mexico and Canada, they're wonderful allies, sort of, but they've
taken advantage of us for so long. For so long,
seventy five percent of all known terrorist watchless suspects crossed
through Canada, not through Mexico. Remittances from the United States
make up roughly five percent of Mexico's GDP. This is

(13:23):
the largest source of foreign income for Mexico, surpassing tourism,
foreign direct investment, and manufacturing exports. This is President Trump
addressing these tariffs. Play cut ten.

Speaker 15 (13:38):
Are you.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
The par against Canada, Well, it could happen.

Speaker 15 (13:42):
If they do anything, we will. Canada has been very
abusive of the United States.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
For many years.

Speaker 16 (13:48):
They don't allow our banks.

Speaker 15 (13:50):
And you know that Canada does not allow banks to
go in. If you think about it, that's pretty amazing.
If we have a US bank, they don't allow.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Them to go in.

Speaker 15 (14:00):
And it has been very tough for oil and energy.
They don't allow our farm products in. Essentially, they don't
allow a lot of things in and we allow everything
to come. And it's been a one way street. We
subsidize Canada by the dune of about two hundred billion
dollars a year and for what what do we get
out of it? We don't get anything out of it.

(14:20):
I love the people of Canada, I disagree with the
leadership of Canada and something's going.

Speaker 16 (14:26):
To happen there.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Of our entire economy, only two point five percent of
our GDP is exports to Canada and Mexico. One third
of the Canadian economy. One third of the Canadian economy
is exports from Canada to America. Seventeen percent of mexico

(14:50):
is exports from Mexico to America. So basically, they've de
industrialized our country to make their country wealthy while doing
nothing to stop the flow of such toxins into the
interior the United States. President Trump is using the tariff
power given to him by Congress to defend you, your children,

(15:14):
your neighborhoods. And then we're going to talk on the
next segment. But how do you avoid a tariff? And
this is the long term play forget the short term
stock market ebbs and flows. No, no, no, there is
a long term play here of a clear signal and
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Speaker 6 (16:27):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates.

Speaker 17 (16:31):
President Trump is immediately pausing the twenty five percent tariff
on Mexico that was set to take effect tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
He's doing so for one month.

Speaker 17 (16:40):
In a true social post, he writes that he spoke
with Mexico's president, who agreed to send ten thousand Mexican
troops to the US Mexico border, specifically to stop the
flow of fentyl and illegal migrants into the United States.
The forty seventh president says during the upcoming month long
cooling off period, there will be high level negotiations involving
Mexican officials, as well as the Secretary of State Mark

(17:02):
or Rubio, and the Treasury Secretary and Secretary of Commerce.
The President will reportedly have a conversation with Canadian officials
later today. So far, Canada is promising to respond to
potential US tariffs with taxes on US goods as well.
That could change throughout the day, though, taking a true
social After announcing the tariffs initially, the President writing, this

(17:23):
will be the golden age of America. Will there be
some pain, yes, maybe and maybe not, but we will
make America great again and it will all be worth
the price that must be paid. We are a country
that is now being run with common sense and the
results will be spectacular.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Rights. That's a quick check of your headlines.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Welcome back, everybody, email us. There is always freedom at
Charlie Kirk dot com. So what is the signal that descends?
By the way, President Trump has now said potentially ten
percent tariff on all goods from the European Union. Understand
that when you are the incumbent economic superpower, people want
to do business in your country. We are not Portugal,

(18:21):
We're not India. Portugal famously has a lot of tariffs
to protect their incumbent industry and it doesn't work great
for them. It works good for some of it, but
they want to protect port they want to protect other
fine delicacies of the Portuguese culture. It's fine, good for them.

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They have every right to be able to do that.
We've been told and propagandized by the corporate class that
tariffs make you poor, tariffs are terrible, So how do
you avoid And they can never answer this question. The
corporate class can never come under examination when it comes

(19:08):
to tariffs. In fact, I remember ones I was on
a cruise ship, a media research center cruise ship with
Brent Bozell, great guy, and they had some corporate class
lunatic who was giving a lecture on tariffs, about how
terrible tariffs are, and he acted as if he was
super smart professor. And I asked him fifteen questions and

(19:29):
he couldn't answer a single one of them. I said,
why is it that during America's greatest prosperity, we funded
the entire government on tariffs? I asked him, how does
avoid a tariff? He said, well, he did it, he
did get this question right. Well, you avoid a tariff
by making the country in the native making the good
in the native country exactly. So what President Trump is

(19:50):
doing is he's signaling, hey, you want to avoid all
these tariffs, build your factory in Lansing, Michigan. Do you
want to avoid this tariff? Build your factory in Mesa Arizona.
You want to avoid the tariff, build the factory in Waukeshaw, Wisconsin.
It is a forcing function to redomicile factories that otherwise

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would be in Wuhan, Guadalajara, or Winnipeg. It is a
forcing function to say that the labor of the world
will no longer be used in this massive capital arbitrage
that disenfranchised American workers and has the internationalist corporatist free

(20:33):
trade experiment worked. Of course, not just drive through Ohio,
drive through rural Pennsylvania. The first rule of economics is this,
human beings respond to incentives. You want America to make
more things, change the incentives. So let's pretend you're a

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big company. And by the way, the direction right now,
there's going to be a manufacturing r assances in this
country like you've never seen because advanced three D manufacturing
is where all the smart money is going right now.
It's going to require high tech jobs, engineers in corporate
artificial intelligence, advance robotics. So that's where all of the

(21:16):
smart capital is going right now. Is that we are
going to have a hardware that's right, a hardware breakthrough
the likes of which no one saw coming. So let's
pretend you're a big company and you're thinking of where
to make your factory. You don't want to have a
twenty five percent duty put on your products, so you say, hey,

(21:37):
let's go build it in Tampa exactly, and there's no tariff.
You build your product here, there is no tariff. One
of the most famous tariffs that we talk about on
this program is that there is a twenty five percent
import tariff to this day that Lyndon Baines Johnson put
on the books on pickup trucks. Do not every pickup
truck you see on the highway has a twenty five

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percent tariff. So how does Toyota avoid the pickup truck tariff?
They don't need to reheadquarter the Japanese company. That's never
ever been the ask. We don't want Porscha to be
headquartered in New Canaan, Connecticut. No, you just make the
actual product here. And that is what Toyota does for

(22:21):
their pickup truck. That is what Nissan does for their
pickup truck. I know people that have Hondas that are
made in America, and that's exactly what we want. Employ
American labor, hire American workers, and the end result is
we can still export pickup trucks to the rest of
the world. You look at what we've done with pickup trucks. Again,

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the corporate class, the Koch brothers, they have been so
they propagandized us because all they cared about was one thing,
the lowest possible price for a good imported into the country.
So we have piles of plastic that are littering our garages,
we have garage sales of stuff that we have no
attachment to, and we have entire entire communities look as
if it's been Dresden. This was China strategy. They spent

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years using tariffs and effort to build up their manufacturing capacity.
Now they are the world's best in many fields and
the world has no choice but to buy their stuff
because it's the best. But there is a new renaissance
coming where we can beat China. It's advanced manufacturing, advanced manufacturing,
three D manufacturing, and highly sophisticated robotics that is coming

(23:28):
around the corner. And we want America to be the
center of the planet for that golden era. And you
do that by a forcing function. You want to avoid
the tariff, build your good in East Palestine, Ohio. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 17 (23:50):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bads. It is a two year anniversary of the
toxic train de railment in East Palestine, Ohio Vice President JD.
Advance is in route to that town as we speak.
Our Ben Berkram is already on the ground there been
good afternoon.

Speaker 16 (24:08):
Hey Terrence, good to be with you, sir.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
So let's talk about the problems.

Speaker 17 (24:13):
Some two years later, they still persist they're in East Palestine,
that's the issue.

Speaker 18 (24:20):
Well, yeah, I mean this is two years into it,
and you can see, you know, we're here in the firehouse.
They've got new equipment here. You can see the amount
of media that's here, probably fifty different networks from around
the country. But you know, the people I was talking to,
the people out on the ground walking the streets, and
most of them have still not received a dime from

(24:40):
Norfolk Southern for what they've been through, and a lot
of them are still having health effects, a lot of
them still spoke. Spoke to a guy today who says
he's still getting bloody noses.

Speaker 16 (24:50):
You've got folks that their kids are.

Speaker 18 (24:52):
Still getting sick, and the big question is the uncertainty
of the future. And they're all being told that, you know,
the people that were part of this, this lawsuit, this
class action lawsuit or all being told, well, you either
take the money now or you may not get anything
in the future. But if you do take the money now,
that's all you're gonna get. You're basically signing your life away.
So a lot still to be discussed. Jd Vance Obviously,

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he's been a part of this from the beginning when
he was a senator here in Ohio and stirring up
the water when he was here. And now you've got
Lee Zelden, head of the EPA, will be joining him,
and now new Senator Bernie Moreno. So the people here
are really hopeful now that you've got a president that
actually cares about them, that something might get done.

Speaker 17 (25:33):
And of course the expectation is that the federal government
will get involved and either force the hand of Norfolk
Southern to do something itself.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Ten seconds.

Speaker 18 (25:43):
Yeah, that's the hope Norfolk Southern and the EPA. It
sounds like to the people's perspective, they've both been derelict
in their duty.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
All right.

Speaker 17 (25:52):
Ben Berken reporting for us on the ground there in
East Palestine. Again, Vice President jd Vance expected there at
any moment.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
The moment he does.

Speaker 17 (26:00):
Arrive and take the microphone, will of course take you
there so that you can hear remark's live as this
is the second anniversary of the toxic trained railment there
in that small community. Well, that's going to do it
for your headlines. As always, we appreciate you being here
with us. We'll get you back there to East Palaestine
and shorter.

Speaker 14 (26:27):
Try going to campus, to the car, the bullhorn, to
the microphone.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's the Charlie Kirk Show, okay, and just the second
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Now Join us now. He's a dear friend and fellow
warrior for America, Peter Navarro. Peter, welcome to the program,
Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing directly to the President United States.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Peter.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Great to see my.

Speaker 13 (28:12):
Friend, my brother kirk Man.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
How you doing doing great, Peter and always fun to
run into you as you are trying to make things happen.
Peter explained to the audience. Here what the President is
doing with his tariff strategy and implementation. Peter, the floor
is yours.

Speaker 19 (28:29):
In this case, we have a drug war against the
American people. On the campaign trail, Charlie, as you well know,
the President promised the American people that people would stop
dying from deadly Chinese fananyl coming in through Mexico and Canada.

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It's important to understand how this works. Trendall is a
synthetic opioid. A grain of it can kill you. It's
one of the potent drugs ever made. Communist China has
been making the precursor chemicals for years now, going back
to when I was with President Trump in his first term,

(29:12):
we were fighting this battle. And what the Chinese do
is a export the chemicals to Mexico and then the
Mexican drug cartels have their little factories and processing where
they make straight fentanyl pills, but they also use the
fentanyl to lace other drugs, anything from heroin and speed

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and so on. And next week when the Super Bowl
happens in New Orleans, it's eerie. The number of people
are going to be sitting in the Superdome, about seventy
five thousand, is roughly equal to the number of Americans
who have been dying every year because of this problem.

(29:55):
And Charlie, what's interesting as well for your demographic your show.
Of course you are the king of informing younger folk.
The people who are dying in most numbers are in
the eighteen to forty five prime working age brackets. So

(30:17):
I'm going long on this to explain just how difficult
this situation is. And so once it gets to Mexico,
the cartels are going up to Canada. There's also a
bunch of it coming in from China directly through the mails.
The stuff is so small it comes in through packets.
And the President said, this is stopping.

Speaker 13 (30:39):
And what he has.

Speaker 19 (30:40):
Done is use the International Economic Emergency Powers Act Emergency
Economic Powers Act IIEPA, that's what it's called, which provides
a president broad authority in times of crisis, in this
case a public health crisis at a border security crisis
to use tools such as tariffs to solve the problem.

(31:05):
So the tariffs were opposed on Saturday by the stroke
of a pen with three countries. China gets ten percent tariffs,
Mexico and Canada twenty five percent tariffs.

Speaker 13 (31:19):
Breaking news.

Speaker 19 (31:20):
Just this morning, the President and the Mexican president were
able to successfully negotiate a thirty day pause in the tariffs,
but we're going to get ten thousand more troops at
the border, Charlie, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
The Mexican government has actually been very helpful and willing

(31:44):
to negotiate. It's in sharp contrast to Canada. Canada has
basically declared a trade war upon us when what we
are dealing with is a drug war. Canada has a
lame duck prime minister who seems to want to go
out in a flourish but who seemingly has no regard

(32:07):
for either the welfare of Canadians or the welfare of
the American people. And so this is where things stand
at this point. The President has taken firm action to
save lives, and I mean it's a carnage. More people
die every year, Charlie from Fentnyl.

Speaker 13 (32:27):
Than died in the Vietnam War.

Speaker 19 (32:29):
I mean, this is unimaginable, and the President is going
to put a stopt it.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Sir Peter explain how the White House views the implementation
of tariffs to protect American industry and to have a
forcing function of redomiciling industry against what would be the
typical neoliberal Washington d C. Corporate consensus. Explain the philosophical

(32:55):
worldview difference that President Trump has.

Speaker 19 (32:59):
The globalist view of the world, which is rooted in
this thing called the Riccardian trade model, which every undergraduate
is spot in our Ivory.

Speaker 13 (33:11):
Tower schools, says that if you.

Speaker 19 (33:15):
Have free trade among countries and labor and capital are mobile,
you'll have a bigger economic pie because everything's more efficient
and life will be better for everybody. But when you
read the fine print of that globalist model, you see
that it falls completely apart immediately because first of all,

(33:40):
some countries when some countries lose, and second of all,
there's no such thing as free trade. The United States
is the uncle sucker of the world when it comes
to trade. We have the lowest tariffs, the lowest trade
barriers in the world. We've got a trillion dollar trade
deficit every year as a result.

Speaker 13 (33:58):
In what President Trump's.

Speaker 19 (34:00):
View of the world, nationalist, economic populist view of the world,
if I may, is that it's America first. We have
to defend our factories and jobs and sovereignty against unfair trade.
And the sovereignty comes in by the fact that when

(34:20):
you run trillion dollar trade deficit of the year, that's
money that basically the foreigners then used to buy pieces
of America. That's an unsustainable equilibrium. So with respect to
the different kinds of things the President's going to be doing,
it's in different buckets. There's a commitment to a global tariff.

(34:44):
This is the deal with the trade deficit issue. There's
a review of steel and aluminum tariffs which were successfully
put on by President Trump in twenty eighteen, but which
have been eroded by the Biden administration.

Speaker 13 (35:02):
And it's these it's and then.

Speaker 19 (35:05):
There's the strategic and national security type triffs. So I remember,
I think in some sense the Boss was inspired by
the first time we closed the border.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Charlie.

Speaker 19 (35:18):
I was there in the Oval when the President asked
whether we could impose tariffs on Mexico but forced them
to seal the border.

Speaker 13 (35:29):
And he looked at me.

Speaker 19 (35:31):
I said yeah, sure, and he looked at Pat Sibalone.

Speaker 13 (35:34):
The White House Legal Council.

Speaker 19 (35:36):
Pat said yes, he made that threat to Mexico, and
within twenty four hours after the globalist heads exploded, sure enough,
Mexico sent twenty thousand troops to the border and signed
the Remain in Mexico policy and boom done.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
So.

Speaker 19 (35:56):
The current issue here is a drug war, not a
trade war. We're trying to stop flow, Fennel. And by
the way, Canada is a very bad actor in this.
It's not just that they're allowing these Mexican drug cartels
in the labs and that they've got the ventanyl coming
in in small packages across their border. There's been almost

(36:18):
one hundred terrorists on the watch list that we've apprehended
here in America that came through that northern border. And
it's like they should be bending over backward to help
us stop this carnage. And that's where things are as

(36:39):
we talk.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
In closing here, Peter. Are we in a trade war.

Speaker 13 (36:45):
We're not in a trade war. We're in a drug war.
We are in a war with.

Speaker 19 (36:52):
The Chinese chemical producers, the Mexican drug cartels, and.

Speaker 13 (37:00):
The Canadian.

Speaker 19 (37:03):
Authorities who are allowing bentanyl and other drugs and contramand
and terrorists into our country. And look, I mean, Charlie,
it's like the border security issue I think was the
single most important issue in this election, followed only by

(37:26):
the trade issue. The President promises made promises in KEP.
No one knows better than Charlie Kirk that the President
keeps his promise, and he's going to stop Spento from
killing all of these Americans. And he's going to do
it by forcing China, Mexico, and Canada to put an

(37:47):
end to what they're doing with respect to that trade.

Speaker 13 (37:50):
And they all have a role.

Speaker 19 (37:52):
Each one of them has a different role in the process.
But when you add it all up, the three of
those countries have the abilities to stop killing Americans. And
that's what they're going to do, or we're going to
do what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Peter, I know the President is operating at a rapid pace.
I only have forty five seconds here. Give us a
little window into the tempo of what you're seeing in
the White House right now.

Speaker 19 (38:20):
Totally different from the first term. We were turtles. Now
we're thurd bred horses. We're at the top of the
learning curve rather than at the bottom. We had a
record number of executive order sign on day one, and
we're just going for the trade thing. I urge everybody
to read the Presidential Memorandum, the America First Trade Policy

(38:43):
that lays out the entire agenda for the next one
hundred days, and you'll see everything from investigations about possible
global trade, export controls, currency manipulations, stealing aluminum tariffs, critical
mineral including the rarers essential medicines. It's all laid out

(39:05):
in that presidential memory. I'm Charlie, and all you have
to do, if you're a good journalist, is read it
and you will get great insight love it into the
trajectory of the trade policy.

Speaker 13 (39:16):
Peter, what you do, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 19 (39:18):
I want to just I always say this when I
come on.

Speaker 13 (39:20):
I always mean it.

Speaker 19 (39:22):
You have done more than anyone to mobilize the youth
of America on behalf President Trump and the Republican Party,
And Sir, I salute you.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
Peter.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
You're a great friend. We have your back one hundred percent.
You know that. Keep on protecting America and our interests.
God bless you, Peter, see you soon. Thank you.

Speaker 13 (39:38):
I bless you, sir.

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at the DNC, and you have to wonder for those
of us that are conservatives and want to see the
Republican Party go into a red rain reign. And the
Democrats decided to adjust, to adapt, to read the country
and to understand that they're a deeply unpopular, hated organization.

(43:29):
The Democrat Party is hated. In fact, someone came up
to me, Yes, I said, Charlie, congratulations on the election,
I voted for Trump. It wasn't because I liked Trump.
It's because I wanted to repudiate the Democrat Party from
all sectors of life. First time ever voted its Wow,
this is your average kind of taste, A little appetizer,
a little chef's tasting, if you will, a little amouge

(43:53):
bouche of the DNC play cut thirty six.

Speaker 13 (44:01):
Good after noon.

Speaker 19 (44:02):
D and say hello Democrats.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Hey, I am speaking, and I would love your attention.
There is a black woman out this Quardian and.

Speaker 20 (44:12):
I deserve your attention like the eleven people who went
before me.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
Yes, I am speaking.

Speaker 13 (44:18):
Good evening, Democrats.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Look up here, three strong black women standing before you.

Speaker 20 (44:23):
Three black women who just grabbing a chair, ran for chair.
They cannot gooss. Yes, my name is Artie Blanco, Freddie
Bonco's daughter.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Vote for me for vice chair.

Speaker 21 (44:36):
Look at this room, y'all, truly take it in.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
This is the Democratic Party.

Speaker 21 (44:42):
We are our strongest when we stand together.

Speaker 20 (44:46):
We are in a time in this country when our
democracy and our rights are under attack. We're at a
time where black and brown people, women, and other minorities
are being blamed for everything that's wrong with this country.

Speaker 12 (44:59):
So together for a stronger and more inclusive Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
That's at the DNC meeting. This is a great clip
here the DNC chair gets confused by his own parties
rules for their gender balance provisions, has to hand over
the mic to somebody else who can't explain it. This
is just delicious play cut thirty nine.

Speaker 21 (45:30):
We're gonna expect we're finding out ways to expedite this
because of.

Speaker 13 (45:35):
Our gender balance provisions.

Speaker 21 (45:36):
On this next ballot, you will be able to vote
for two candidates of any gender on the next ballot. Okay,
So on this next ballot, you will be able to
vote for two candidates of any gender on the next ballot.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
If two candidates.

Speaker 21 (45:55):
Receive I'm gonna turn to Helen to clarify this last part.

Speaker 19 (46:06):
You are in this next ballot where you have two votes,
as the chair has set, you may vote for two males,
two females, two of any gender.

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Okay, Nope, you can't do that because we've got to balance.

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You could vote for.

Speaker 19 (46:24):
One of any gender, okay, our non binary gender.

Speaker 17 (46:30):
Excuse me, all right, we're interrupting your regularly scheduled programming
to take you to East Palestine, Ohio. Today is the
two year anniversary of the toxic trained derailment there. Vice
President JD. Vance is on the ground there. He is
going to be speaking in short order. You can see

(46:50):
here in this video. Let's take it full guys, as
we wait for JD. Evans to go inside. He is
speaking outdoors there, talking to a number of the officials
on the ground there East Palestine, in advance of going
inside of.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
A fire haul there where a podium is.

Speaker 17 (47:05):
Set up and where he'll be speaking. Our Ben Berkhram
is also on the ground there. We'll be checking in
with him throughout the day. Of course, two years after
the toxic train derailment there in East Palestine, there are
still issues of toxicity in the soil and the groundwater,
and major concerns from a number of the people in
this small community who are still reeling following that toxic

(47:27):
train derailment. In fact, many people are deciding whether they're
going to take a buyout from Norfolk Southern, which is
the train company that was operating the train that derailed,
causing those cars to go off track and to leak
toxic chemicals into the environment there in East Palestine. And
then let's not forget East Palestine sits very close to

(47:50):
the border of Pennsylvania, and so there are also some
communities outside of East Palestine in those neighboring states that
also suffered some of the toxicity in some of the
now some of the problems are related to that trained derailment.
So all of those things we expect Vice President JD.
Vance to speak on today as he is back in

(48:12):
his home state of Ohio. You may remember when that
trained derailment happened. Senator then Senator Vance was the senator
representing the.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
People of Ohio.

Speaker 17 (48:22):
Now he is the Vice President and returning back to Ohio,
returning back to this community to help the community itself
deal with the situation, the ongoing situation following that trained derailment.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
Let's just listen in.

Speaker 17 (48:35):
Let's see if we can make out some of the
conversations that he's having with some of these officials who
are on ground. They're also we're hearing that the director
of the EPA, the new director of the Environmental Protection Agency,
is also on the ground.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
So let's try to listen in.

Speaker 17 (48:48):
Maybe we can make out some of what's being talked about.

Speaker 22 (48:50):
All that stuff kind of got finish it up.

Speaker 11 (48:54):
With so yeah, we're getting there.

Speaker 16 (49:02):
What a much better than what is this this Greek here.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
About?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Hey, guys, I need every want to start moving this
white please, thank you, thank you. Past the car police,
thank you.

Speaker 17 (49:26):
Unfortunate We're not able to really make out much of
what's being said, but it sounds like he's getting somewhat
of a briefing from the local officials there as they're
kind of explaining the situation to him. Our Ben Berkram,
also on the ground there. Ben, you've had an opportunity
to talk to a number of people there on the ground.
You've been there since early this morning. What are some

(49:46):
of the stories that you're hearing. What are some of
the concerns that you've been hearing from folks there in
East Palestine.

Speaker 18 (49:54):
Well, Jess, really a mixed bag you've got. You know,
I spoke to the mayor, actually got an interview with
the mayor this morning, Trent Conaway, and you know, he's
he's of the opinion that he's thankful that President Trump's coming,
that JD.

Speaker 16 (50:06):
Vance is coming.

Speaker 18 (50:07):
They're thankful that President Trump won the election and that
enough wasn't done under Joe Biden. But you've also got
people in the community that you know, are basically saying
that the mayor sold out the community, that the fire
department sold out the community, that they you know, they
got paid off, but none of the community has. So
it's really created quite a rift in the community. A

(50:28):
lot of people still waiting for money from Norfolk Southern,
a lot of people not trusting at all what the
EPA is saying, and hopeful that with Lee Zelden in
there that they'll actually get some answers that they can trust.

Speaker 16 (50:39):
And so, you know, I think the.

Speaker 18 (50:41):
The overarching sense is just a distrust of government in
particular of Joe Biden's administration and the EPA then and
what they were told in Norfolk Southern. They just feel
like they got screwed, that they were abandoned by the
previous administration. And there's a lot of hope that under
President Trump they will actually get some.

Speaker 16 (51:04):
Resolution to this. They'll hopefully get some funds.

Speaker 18 (51:07):
A lot of people want to leave, but they can't
sell their houses, and so some people just want to
get paid off and get out of here. Other people
just want to move on and get some sort of compensation.
So it really is a mixed bag.

Speaker 17 (51:20):
You mentioned the new head of the EPA, Lee Zelden.
It's my understanding that he's expected to be on site
today as well, along with Vice President Vance.

Speaker 18 (51:31):
Yeah, as far as I know, he's here. They're right
outside the building. As far as far as we can tell,
we're kind of cordoned off inside the firehouse and so
in fact, they even have paper over the windows so
we can't see out, but we believe he's right outside
the building. You'll be coming in here momentarily, so it'll
be Vice President Vance, Senator Bernie Marino, and the new

(51:53):
head of the EPA, leez Elden, are anticipated to be here.

Speaker 17 (51:58):
Yeah, we saw that group standing outside. They were talking
to some of the officials. I couldn't make lee Zelden out,
but then again there was somewhat of a crowd to gaggle,
so I'm sure he was probably in that crowd. In general,
what is the sense that you're getting from people there
in East Palestine? Obviously there's disappointment about how the last
couple of years have gone, but is there also anticipation

(52:21):
about how the next four years will go under this
new administration?

Speaker 18 (52:28):
Definitely, I mean there's no question everybody, regardless of which
camp you fall into. You know, in interviewing the mayor,
he says, there's basically.

Speaker 16 (52:35):
It's split a third.

Speaker 18 (52:36):
There's a third of the community that believes everything's okay
or you know, okay to the best of their ability,
and they just want to move on. There's a third
of the community that is just uncertain and doesn't know
which way to go. And there's a third of the
community that believes everyone, in his words, everyone's going to
get cancer and die. And so you've got kind of,

(52:56):
you know, that whole swath of sentiments. But in everyone
that I've spoken to, there is more of a sense
that something will be done under President Trump than was
done under Joe Biden. You have to remember, you know,
Joe Biden wasn't even here. It didn't even come to
the town for over a year. And nobody in talking

(53:17):
to the people on the ground, nobody trusted Pete Buttagge
as the Transportation secretary. Nobody trusted what was coming out
of in particular Norfolk Southern and the odd thing, you know,
even people on the left really started to discount what
was coming out of the EPA, and it seemed like
everybody was kind of beating the same drum for Norfolk
Southern And when it came down to this class action lawsuit,

(53:41):
you know we're talking six hundred million dollars. Well, the
top payout on that would be seventy thousand dollars per household,
and that's taking you would actually have to back out.
So some of the people thought, well, okay, I'll get
seventy thousand dollars. They didn't realize that they were going
to have to pay back the housing allowances, if they
were put up in hotels for any extended period of time,

(54:01):
if they were if they had medical bills that were covered,
all of that was getting subtracted out of that seventy
thousand dollars. So some people now are being told, well,
they might get twenty thousand dollars for their entire household.
And so, you know, it's in talking to a lot
of the folks, it just feels like a slap in
the face. And on top of that, you're having to
sign away your rights. So not only are you getting

(54:23):
crumbs compared to what was sent, you know, to other
foreign countries or to allowing illegals across our southern border,
you're you're also signing away any future rights to sue
or get any sort of compensation, and that's the big question.
So there's you know, there are a lot of people that
now are saying, well, even if they were a part
of the clash action, well can they back out of it?

(54:45):
So there's movements by people that were a part of
that to back out. There are other people that just
want to get paid and move on. And it's just
a mess. I mean, in the end, I guess the
best way to describe it's just a total mess. And
and you know, still some questions that haven't been answered.
Why did the EPA ever allow the so called control
burn to happen? In talking to some of the experts,

(55:05):
the chemical experts on the ground, you know, they were
saying that should have never happened, and it was allowed to.
Initially that was blamed on the fire chief, but you know,
ultimately that decision came down to the EPA who made
the call. Apparently when they did the control burn this
again quote unquote control burn, the catastrophically out of control

(55:28):
control burn, they evacuated a certain area based on the
wind conditions at the time, but before they started the burn,
the wind conditions changed and so they ended up evacuating
the wrong area, and apparently when they went back to
do the soil studies and a lot of the air studies,
they went back to the wrong area, the initial evacuation area,

(55:49):
rather than where the actual plume of toxic chemicals went.
And so you know, there's all of this plays into
the people's mistrust of the government of Norfolk, Southern of
the EPA and whether or not they'll, you know, anyone
will really know. And the sad thing is now people

(56:10):
will go to the hospital and they'll tell talk about
their symptoms and they're being told, well, that has nothing
to do with the trained to derailment. That's just in
your head, or there's other you know, you're sick from
something else.

Speaker 16 (56:19):
And so they're.

Speaker 18 (56:20):
Basically able to just offuscate culpability and a lot of
that becomes you know, the further we go away from
the disaster, the easier that oscuiscation becomes. So absolutely hopefully
that doesn't muddy the water anymore than it is. It's
just it's again the moral of the story, it's just
a huge mess.

Speaker 17 (56:40):
Not to play on words here, but it sounds like
a toxic situation, both emotionally as well as in terms
of the environment there in that community. Let's talk a
bit more about the EPA, because I think that's a
really interesting angle. Now that there's new leadership at the EPA,
is there an expectation there in East Palestine that there
will be new studies done on the ground water, on

(57:01):
the environment, on the soil there. What is the expectation
from the EPA under new leadership now some two years
following that derailment.

Speaker 18 (57:14):
Yeah, there's hopes for that, but I don't know if
it's if do you guys need my attention?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (57:22):
The phones?

Speaker 18 (57:23):
Okay, Hey, I'm getting worried. I got to bring my
phone down. Guys, use it for the connection. Give me
just a second, but yes, Terrence, give me just a second.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
I'll be right back with absolutely absolutely all right.

Speaker 17 (57:32):
So Ben's got to do some housekeeping there as he's
got to reset his phone there in East Palestine.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
In the meantime, you're looking at.

Speaker 17 (57:40):
The stage in the podium where Vice President jd. Vance
is set to speak here at any moment, he is
on the ground there outside of this firehouse. Earlier when
we came on, you saw him speaking with a number
of the officials there from East Palestine. Very likely also
from the state of Ohio. We're hearing that Lee zeld In,
the new EPA administrator, is winning Vice President vance for

(58:01):
this visit. Also the new Senator there, Bernie Moreno in Ohio.
Also on the ground there in East Palestine, Ohio, on
this two year anniversary of the toxic trained derailment there.
In fact, on the bottom side of your screen, on
the right side of your screen, you see some video
from two years ago, that fiery trained arrailment, the smoke,
the toxic plume continuing to billow into the sky. It's

(58:24):
hard not to forget. It's hard not to remember that night.
We of course, were on the air here on Real
America's Voice bringing you the very latest on this. As
for days upon days upon days there was fire and
there was toxic chemicals that were emitted from that trained
derailment into the atmosphere there in East Palestine. And as
you just heard Ben say, some two years later, there

(58:48):
are still people who are complaining of the after effects
of the toxicity in their community. They can't sell their homes.
They're trying to determine whether the money that they would
get from a settlement with Norfolk Southern which of course
is the train company that operated that train that derailed,
would be enough for them to rebuild their homes, to
rebuild their lives, and now many of them realizing after

(59:09):
all of the other costs that they would have to
cover from what they had to pay out following that derailment,
it very likely wouldn't be enough for them to do anything.
So this is a really difficult situation for this entire community,
and it's one that we imagine Vice President Vance is
going to address once he takes the podium there in
East Palestine here in moments. As I said, he was

(59:31):
outside just moments ago talking with some folks, getting some pointers,
finding out what the current situation is on the ground there,
and we expect once he's finished getting that briefing, for
lack of a better word, then he will make his
way here inside this fire station to the podium and
offer up remarks and hopefully offer some hope for the folks.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
There in East Palestine. Ohio.

Speaker 17 (59:54):
So just a reset for those of you who are
just joining us, it is the two year anniversary of
the toxic train derailment here in East Palestine. You're seeing
video of the aftermath of that the train cars not
only derailed, but many of them burned. There were toxic
chemicals inside many of those. There was a controlled burn

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that was put in place in order to burn off
some of that toxicity. But we're hearing reports, and there
have been reports really for the past two years, that
that controlled burn went out of control and that the
wind shifted, as you just heard Ben burkem report. And
so the people that were ultimately moved out of their
homes they were the wrong people and other people were impacted.

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So that gets us to today, some two years later,
the new Vice President of the United States excuse me,
Vice President JD. Vance, returning to his home state of Ohio,
where he served as senator when this trained derailment happened.
He is now coming back to hopefully offer some hope
to the folks in this small community of East Palestine.

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He's also bringing with him the EPA director. This is
the new EPA director out of New York. He also
has excuse me, Senator Bernie Moreno with him, who is
a new senator.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
There in Ohio. So all three of.

Speaker 17 (01:01:13):
Them will likely take the podium here in short order.
Once they come inside and once they speak to this crowd.
Do we still have Ben has been still available to
give us some more insight here as we now look outside. Okay,
we can't get to Ben. He had to change his phone.
So I'll continue to kind of set the scene for you.
But you saw the camera's turn, which means that we're

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expecting the group of lawmakers and officials to make their
way indoor here at any moment and make their way
to the podium there in East Palestine. This is a
fairly small town, and there were concerns, of course, shortly
after this trained derailment about President Biden, who of course
was the president of the time, not immediately coming to

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the community. President Trump, within weeks, maybe even days, made
his way to East Palestine. You may remember the reports
right here. In fact, we were live on the air
here on Real America's Voice when President Trump showed up.
He spoke with the mayor, he spoke with officials, He
offered remarks there in East Palestine. But beyond that, he
brought in tractor trailer loads of water for the folks

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there in East Palestine. I mean tractor trailer loads. They
were loaded with water. And he handed those bottles of
water out and it was something small but significant to
the people there in the community. Significant not just because
they had fresh drinking water, but because it showed.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
That someone cared.

Speaker 17 (01:02:34):
That was one of the sentiments that we continue to
hear from the people there in East Palestine. He's showing
that he cares. He showed up. Where's President Biden. President
Biden didn't show up until about a year and a
half after that, and even then he only stayed for
a short time. All Right, it looks like we're having
a gaggle here. Is that President Trump there? It looked

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like Okay, I.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
Saw some video there. That was some old video. I apologize.
I thought that may have been live, but that was
an old video of President Trump. Again. Vice President Vance
is on site.

Speaker 17 (01:03:05):
We do know that for sure, and we're expecting him
to come in at any moment now and take to
the podium there. But the point that I was making
is that it took President Biden, who was the president
at the time of this derailment, months really probably over
a year year and a half, to even come to
this community to visit and to offer. And in the meantime,
you had people who were getting sick, You had people

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who had homes that they couldn't still live in.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
You had people who.

Speaker 17 (01:03:29):
Are hoping or trying to sell their homes, but those
homes weren't able to move off of the market. And
it was a community that felt that they were the
victims of politics. They felt many people there in the
community because the community voted overwhelmingly Republican. They thought that
it was a political stunt that President Biden at the
time wouldn't come to their community simply because it was

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a heavy Republican community and because they voted heavy Republican.
And so now there's a new administration. It's a Republican administration,
and within two weeks of taking office, Vice President jd
Vance is on site there in East Palestine getting ready
to speak to the people, letting them know that they
are not forgotten, letting them know that this new administration

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is going to be on the ball and working for
them now. Yes, Senator Jay or now Vice President then
Senator jd Vance served here in Ohio and he was
on the ground immediately after the initial train derailment.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
You probably saw the video. He was by a creek.

Speaker 17 (01:04:28):
He had a stick, he's rubbing the water and you
could see of this Rainbowie film come out from underneath
the water, which really showed some of the toxicity and
some of the pollutants that were in the groundwater there
in the soil. And now he is returning for a
speech there in East Palestine. You can see the fire
officials starting to walk up closer to the podium. That

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means that it's very likely that Senator, excuse me, that
Vice President Vance, I apologize that Vice President Vance is
going to be making his way to the podium here
in short order, as well, les out in the new
administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency also on site. We
expect that he will be speaking, and Bernie Moreno, the
new senator from Ohio, also on site. We expect to

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hear from all of them as they make their way
into this firehouse and closer to the podium there in
East Palestine. All right, again, if you're just joining us,
we are covering this two year anniversary of the trained
derailment there in East Palestine. It's hard to believe that
it has been two years, but it in fact has

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been that long, and for many people there in this community,
they spent the last two years suffering through the toxicity
that's now taken over their community and other things. We've
got some people who are stepping up closer to the podium,
so the moment that happens, we will take you to that.
As you can see, we're zooming in on the crest
that is at the front of the podium. There president

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of the United States, it says, and the vice President.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
In the United States will be the one speaking.

Speaker 17 (01:06:04):
All right, guys, I'm seeing in one video that someone
is at the podium here.

Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
Can we take that? Are we ready to take that, guys?
Or no?

Speaker 17 (01:06:13):
All right, there we go. Let's listen and let's see
what's happening here. This may just be a mic check,
but let's listen in.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
All right.

Speaker 17 (01:06:22):
So, yeah, they're just doing a mic check here, ladies
and gentlemen. I don't know who this gentleman is, but
he's just doing a mic check making sure that everything
is in place so that when Vice President Vance does
in fact take the.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
Microphone, there won't be any problems.

Speaker 17 (01:06:35):
And as I said, Lee Zelden, who is the new
EPA administrator, will be joining us. Also, the new senator
there in Ohio, Bernie Moreno, will be joining him as well.
So it will be interesting to see what they have
to say on this two year anniversary of the trained
derailment there in East Palestine. We also have our very
own Ben Burkham on the ground there. We'll be checking

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in with him throughout the day. He's been talking to
a number of people there in East Palestine, and what
he's described is that there are many people who are
describing still being sick, still feeling the after effects of
that derailment.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Many of them believe that they have been.

Speaker 17 (01:07:10):
Poisoned, for lack of a better word, and so they're
complaining about being sick and they think a lot of
that has to do with the contamination in their community.
Yet when they go to the doctor, when they try
to get diagnosed, they're being told that their symptoms aren't
necessarily related to the development, that it's from something else,
and some of them are even being told that it's

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all in their head, that the symptoms they're reporting aren't
necessarily the real and that it's got to be disheartening
for anyone, particularly when your community has been turned quite
literally upside down following something like this. You may remember
that Norfolk Southern is the train company that was operating
that train, and it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
Has come up with.

Speaker 17 (01:07:52):
Some payment figures for the people in this community. There
have been a number of settlements offered to people, and
some people have actually accepted the settlements. Others are waffling
back and forth about whether they want to accept those
settlements or whether they're going to hold out, excuse me,
for a bigger payment. And so that's one of the
things that I expect will be addressed today as well,

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particularly if some folks from the community are going to
be allowed to take the podium along with the Vice
President as well as the EPA director and the senator
there from Ohio. It's going to be very interesting to
get their perspective and also to hear the perspective of
lawmakers some two years after this derailment and now that
a new administration is in place. So we are just

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now waiting. We are now just waiting for the Vice
president to take the microphone. It's my understanding that now
we can talk to Ben as well. So Ben, I
would imagine some anticipation on the ground there as everyone
in the audience, the media, and those folks there on
the stage realize that the vice president is just minutes
away from taking the podium and speaking to them.

Speaker 18 (01:09:00):
Yeah, yeah, And just to give you an idea. Had
to jump away from the camera there for a minute
because in order to even get a signal out of here,
there's so many live views and packs. We had to
precariously put the phone up and the roll up doors
on the fire station here, and so they were about
to roll up the doors and had to have me
move my phone. So I'm back. I found a spot

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to put it, and it looks like we're holding a signal.
But this is just it just shows you the community,
you know, the interest in this. You've got fifty plus
media outlets out here, You've got hundreds of people outside
lining the streets from the community. A little bit of
frustration and talking to some of them that they weren't
invited inside the room. It's you know, but it's very

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small fire station here, and so it is a major anticipation.
And again it's two years coming. A lot of folks,
even the folks that are taking the payouts, many of
them are frustrated because they still haven't gotten paid, you know,
two years later, still haven't gotten paid. Speaking to one
lady this morning who said, even if you accept the
pay they'll send you a letter once you get that letter,

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you have to sign saying that you accept the letter.
Once you accept the letter, you have to tell them
if you want direct deposit, and then there's an actual
payment schedule. And she said what was really frustrating to
her is the payment schedule for people over sixty five
that are retired is actually less than the younger people,
and they didn't realize that when this all happened. So basically,
you know, they anticipate you not living as long as

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you're not going to make as get as much money.
So it's just again, I just keep saying, it's just
a mess. It's just a total, total mess, and everybody
here on the ground is anticipating the new administration and
hoping that some of this insanity can be resolved.

Speaker 17 (01:10:41):
Ben, as I'm listening to you, it strikes me that
some two years later, this derailment is taking not only
a toll on people's health in that community, but it's
also taking an economic impact individually and community wide.

Speaker 18 (01:10:59):
Oh yeah, I mean, this is one of the hardest things.
You know, You've got Even just a few months after
the derailment, you had people coming out, you had the
EPA coming out saying it was safe the water was
safe to drink. They had these photo ops where they
came and you know, drank water that was supposedly cleaned
by the water treatment plant. But I mean, if you're
an investor, is this a community that you're looking to

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invest in.

Speaker 16 (01:11:21):
Probably not.

Speaker 18 (01:11:22):
If you're you know, a home buyer, or is this
a community you're looking to buy a home in, probably not.

Speaker 16 (01:11:26):
And even some of the businesses here.

Speaker 18 (01:11:28):
I was with Edwin Wang who owns connect fab and he,
you know, he we toured a shop two weeks ago
and he was right at ground zero where the derailment was.
He had, you know, he has had fifty employees. They
were investing in the community. It was the American dream.
And he still has not been able to reopen that facility.

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In fact, they have still not even done clean up
on the facility that was right there. His his warehouse there,
so or is manufacturing facility. So yeah, it's you know,
it's from an investment standpoint, it's a death sentence for
a community. What happened and so and how do you
compensate that? How do you compensate the community who had
jobs and now don't, who had prospects and now don't,

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who had mortgages that had value and now they don't.
You know, is seventy thousand dollars going to do that?
I mean clearly not. So it's there's all of these
other and then you compound that with all of the
uncertainty physically from a health standpoint, going into you know,
ten years from now, five years from now, a year

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from now.

Speaker 16 (01:12:32):
What does that mean? Bottom line is nobody knows really.

Speaker 17 (01:12:38):
Right, not to be mean, but it really sounds from
the outside looking in like this is a situation that's irredeemable,
and these people are being forced to stay in the
community that probably can't be brought back to what it
was at one point.

Speaker 16 (01:12:54):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 18 (01:12:57):
It's really hard to say how you get past that.
I think psychologically, I think for the people that live
here again, it's you know, if you're an outside investor,
this is not a community you're looking to spend much money,
and you might be looking to buy things dirt cheap
and hopefully in twenty years be able to flip them.
But as of right now, you know, nobody is looking

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at East Palestine as a good investment, even though they're
trying to put on a good face for that.

Speaker 16 (01:13:22):
And so it's sure.

Speaker 18 (01:13:24):
Yeah, it's devastated the community and it's going to continue
to devastate it for decades.

Speaker 17 (01:13:29):
And Ben, I think it's also important to point out that, yes,
East Palestine is the epicenter of this derailment, but the
effects are being felt in neighboring communities as well, even
across the border in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 18 (01:13:44):
Right, I mean, that's one of the areas most there
has been almost little to no testing done at all.
It was where the actual massive mushroom cloud of toxic
plume went. And you know, you're talking millions of acres
of farmland that could be effect did with dioxins and
vinyl chloride and benzene and all these things that you

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know have health implication or health impacts, and so you
you know, if you're a farmer out you could be
fifty miles away from here and your your farm could
have been impacted by this and you still don't know it.
The waterways, the Ohio Watershed, Ohio River Watershed, we were
just a few months after the disaster, we were out
and found three dead deer about twenty miles from the

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town itself. And you know, who knows did those deer
die from the water. Did they die from other natural causes,
who knows, but they were all dead right by the
side of the Ohio River.

Speaker 16 (01:14:39):
Well, all of that Ohio.

Speaker 18 (01:14:40):
River runs downstream, and you know, people in Cincinnati, what
impacts are they going to have? It's just it's really
almost impossible to know, and even you know, do any
sort of tracking, and then at that point, you know,
any sort of compensation is just completely out the window.

Speaker 16 (01:14:57):
So how do you try to protect people?

Speaker 18 (01:14:59):
I think the biggest thing with this is trying to
prevent it from ever happening again as well, you know
a lot and talking to a lot of people on
the ground.

Speaker 16 (01:15:06):
It should have never happened.

Speaker 18 (01:15:08):
Norfolk Southern should have never run those trains at the
speeds they were running them.

Speaker 16 (01:15:12):
They should have caught that.

Speaker 18 (01:15:13):
That the one set of bearings was on fire or
the one wheel set of wheels was on fire, and
they should never have been able to burn it and
do that catastrophic, uncontrolled control burn just to get the
railroads going again. And so all of that, there's a
lot that needs to be learned, lessons that need to
be learned, and it feels to the local community like

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none of those have been learned. You know, it was
basically the entire focus and push was just to get
the railroad back running again, which is important obviously, that
has a huge economic impact on our entire country. But
that seemed to be the priority to everybody, not the community,
not the health of the community, not the long term implications,
definitely not the economic health of the community. It was

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just simply keeping the railroad running.

Speaker 17 (01:15:58):
What is this sentiment there in the community about Norfolk
Southern and the fine that it was forced to pay
by the federal government and the settlements that he's offering.
I suspect and I'd like you to clear this up
that people feel like Norfolk Southern got off pretty easy
compared to what this community is having to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:16:19):
No, they feel like most of the people I talked
to in the community feel like Norfolk Southern paid off
the right people to make the issue go away and
have not been held accountable for their dereliction, for their negligence.
And if anybody, you know, has gotten away with it,
it's been Norfolk Southern. That that's definitely the general sentiment

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that the community got screwed. But the you know, the
the railroad basically got a slap on the wrist and
moved on. You know, they've got insurance for this. You
talk about six hundred million dollars. That sounds like a
lot to us, but to a multi global conglomerate it's
you know, they basically have they plan for things like that,

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not not to the disaster the level that it was,
but really, you know, talking to some experts I've been
involved with other lawsuits with with similar health risks, they
were anticipating it to be in the billions, not in
the millions or hundreds of millions.

Speaker 17 (01:17:21):
All right, we're listening to this gentleman. He's giving instruction
to press media, right right? So is he saying that
the press pool, the White House press pool, gets to
ask the first questions, Ben, and then a local reporters
and others will will talk. Is that pretty much the
gist of it.

Speaker 18 (01:17:39):
No, they haven't given us direction on whether they're going
to take questions more about what happens after the press conference.
That the press pool is going to leave first, and
so everyone else has to hold their position. If you've
been at you know, you've been to these terrans anytime
they's Secret Service involved, you've got a you know, there's
certain movements that are allowed and certain that aren't the

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most important, especially the threat when you've got all everything
we have going on across our country and all the
threats against President Trump and Jade Vance, there's hyper sense
of hyper sensitivity to security and making sure everybody is
understands what the expectations are.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
Of course, as they should be.

Speaker 17 (01:18:23):
So I'm curious about the sentiment there in East Palistine
about Vice President Vance coming today. I'm sure people see
it symbolically as a good gesture, but is this enough?

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
What is the expectation?

Speaker 17 (01:18:39):
What is it that many the people there in East
Palestine want to hear from the Vice president, want the
Trump administration to do.

Speaker 16 (01:18:48):
Well.

Speaker 18 (01:18:49):
It's mainly the you know, they're all happy that he's coming.
They obviously would love for President Trump to come back
as well. Everyone that I spoke to, but it does
everyone had the same message. They want to see something tangible,
you know. They don't want to see photo ops like
they saw under with Joe Biden and Pete Butteragge.

Speaker 16 (01:19:07):
They want to.

Speaker 18 (01:19:07):
See, you know what, what what solutions do they have
from this? And it'll be interesting to see what sort
of tangible solutions if again, we're you know, a week
into the administration. We can have into the administration, so
it'll be uh, I don't know if they've if they've
even come up with those what those solutions are, or
if they're coming to find out to try to speak

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to the people on the ground and get those solutions.
So but that that's really everybody on the ground just
wants to know what are they actually going to do
and how are they actually going to help the community,
And so everyone's waiting for that.

Speaker 17 (01:19:42):
And I think most reasonable people been would agree that
that's a fair sentiment.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
What are you going to do for me?

Speaker 17 (01:19:47):
Yeah, it's nice that you're here, but for the past
two years I've been suffering and I need some relief.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
What are you going to do? I think that's absolutely fair.

Speaker 17 (01:19:57):
You've been back and forth to East Palace probably a
half dozen times over the past two years, a lot
of curiosity.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
How much how much change have you seen in that community?

Speaker 17 (01:20:08):
How different is the East Palestine of today than it
was shortly after the trained aroundment when you were there.

Speaker 18 (01:20:17):
It definitely feels more divided now. You know, initially the
community came together and there was just some a sense
of well, let's let's try to push through this together.
There was a lot of fear and now the division
you can really feel. It's just, you know, it was
always a quiet town. It's even more of a quiet town.
For the first several months. You had a lot of
clean up. You still have some cleanup going on, but

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it's you know, now it's just okay, it's two years later,
we still don't have resolution. There's really a sense that
whatever's going to happen has probably already happened, except now
the hope that President Trump.

Speaker 16 (01:20:50):
Is in office.

Speaker 18 (01:20:51):
I know people were had had Kamala won, they were
basically felt like nothing would ever change, that they would
just be abandoned for So there's there's a renewed sense
of optimism, hope that something will come of it, but
until they.

Speaker 16 (01:21:06):
Actually see it.

Speaker 18 (01:21:07):
There's also a sense that, you know, government does a
lot of talk and really never actually comes through, and
that that's kind of going back to what we were
just talking about. The you know, they're they're tired of hearing,
they're tired of having politicians show up and put on
a happy face and act like the person but not
actually doing anything. And so I think that's that's really
where everyone's at right now is just get it done.

Speaker 6 (01:21:28):
That's so understanding.

Speaker 16 (01:21:30):
Let's move on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
That's so understanding. It's heartbreaking.

Speaker 17 (01:21:33):
You know, again, you have been there, so you're interacting
with people, You're feeling the anxiety, the angst, the anger.
I've covered it for the past two years from a
distance and even through the TV screen.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
When you hear.

Speaker 17 (01:21:47):
People recount kind of what's happening in their lives, when
you hear them recount the impact that this has had,
it is still heartbreaking, even some two years later. So Ben,
just to kind of reset that, we were waiting for
Vice President jd Vance to take the podium here in
East Palestine. He is on site. We saw him as
he pulled up with his caravan. He stepped out, he

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was talking to some officials outside. Ben, what are you
hearing there on the ground inside this firehouse in terms
of an ETA, in terms of what the Vice president.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
Is doing right now or when he's going to arrive
here at the podium to speak.

Speaker 18 (01:22:23):
Well, we heard about five minutes ago that it was
going to be about ten minutes, and so it could
be any moment.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Now.

Speaker 18 (01:22:31):
There's a lot of you know, people just kind of waiting,
a lot of cameras rolling waiting to see when he
comes in. It looks like he's going to be coming
in from my right, the right side over here, and
so as soon as he does, we will pan over
and get him on his way in. And but yeah,
any he could be coming in any minute now.

Speaker 17 (01:22:53):
Right, And just out of curiosity, it looks to me
that the folks staying the other behind the podium are
those firefighters of those Palestine firefighters.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
Unfortunately, my eyes.

Speaker 17 (01:23:02):
Are bad in my advanced age, and so I can't
see all the emblems on their shirt and that kind
of thing, but I suspect their firefighters, is that right?

Speaker 16 (01:23:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:23:12):
Everybody that I can see that's behind the podium is
part of the fire team.

Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
Okay, all right, you know this shirts I can't do
I have it.

Speaker 18 (01:23:24):
Yeah, No, there's just but yeah that it appears to
be all part of the firehouse. And there are two
fire stations here, so my guess is both, I mean
some you know, they also still have to run the
emergency response. So I'm sure there's a few people that
aren't here that are out on an engine right now,
but as many as could be here to support are

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here at part appears.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
So how long will you still be there? Ben?

Speaker 17 (01:23:51):
In East Palestine? You're gonna spend the next couple of
days there or will you be leaving shortly after Vice
President Vance wraps up his remarks, And in terms of
your reporting, what is it that you're still hoping to
learn there in this community?

Speaker 18 (01:24:08):
Yeah, I'll be wrapping up after this. We're going to
be Lincoln back up with doing some ice operations shortly
after this, so stay tuned for that.

Speaker 17 (01:24:16):
As much you All right, Ben, gotta break off really
quickly because President Trump is in the Oval office right now.
It sounds like he's signing a new executive order.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Let's listen in doing something perhaps with tech and perhaps not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
If we make the right deal, we'll do it. Otherwise
we won't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
But I have the right to do that, and we
might put that in the Sovereign Wealth Fund, whatever we
make or if we do a partnership with very wealthy people.
A lot of options, but we could put that as
an example.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
In the fund.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
And we have a lot of other things that we
could put in the fund, and I think in a
short period of time we'd have one of the biggest
funds and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
You know some of some of them are pretty large.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
I must tell you some of the like the Study
Arabia Fund, is on the large side.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
But eventually we'll catch it. But we're going to create.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
A lot of wealth for the fund, and I think
it's about time that this country had a sovereign wealth fund.
And these two gentlemen and some others are going to
work with them very closely and they'll.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Be heading it up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
And they're going to do great job too, highly respected
people that have done unbelievably well in the world, in
the real world.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
So that's a big deal. Huh, Yes, sir.

Speaker 22 (01:25:24):
I think it's going to create value and be of
great strategic importance.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
Important for even access to the painment systems.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Well, he's got access only to letting people go that
he thinks are no good if we agree with him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
And it's only if we agree with him.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
He's a very talented guy from the standpoint of management
and costs, and we put them in charge of seeing
what he can do with certain groups and certain numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
The numbers, some of the numbers are horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
What he's found one hundred think of it, one hundred
million dollars on condoms to amas, condoms to amas, and
many other things that are frankly, even more ridiculous. And
they're finding tremendous waste, really.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Waste, more than anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
I think you could say probably fraud and abuse could
be added to it, the Moore standard waste, fraud and abuse.
But they're finding tremendous amounts of really bad things, bad spending.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
You've been reading about, you've been writing about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Some of it, frankly, and some of the things that
they've been doing is just terrible. Lea Elon can't do
and won't do anything without our approval, and will give
them the approval. We're appropriate, we're not appropriate, We won't.
But he reports in and it's something that he feels

(01:26:57):
very strongly about. And I'm impressed because he's obviously a
big company, has nothing to do. If there's a conflict
that we won't let him get near it. But he
does have a good natural instinct. He's got a team
of very talented people. We're trying to shrink government, and
he can probably shrink it as well as anybody else,
if not better.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Where we think there's a conflict or.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
There's a problem, we won't let him go near it,
but he has some very good ideas that we have
a lot of very other talented people also.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
We'll bring it in the most talented people in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
By the way, we just unrelated, but we have two
of the most talented people in the world, the legendary
Rupert Burdock and Larry Ellison.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
So there are two.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Legends in business publishing and probably every other.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Rupert is Larry pretty much in.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
A class by himself, right, I mean, although you may
have a couple of bucks more, I don't know, but
Rupert is in a class by himself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
He's an amazing guy. And Larry is Larry is Larry.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Larry is one of the most serious players anywhere in
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
It's an honor to have you. This has nothing to
do with you people, but they hear it. I thought
it would be appropriate. I'm sure you didn't recognize them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
If you're all going crazy to say, what are they
doing here?

Speaker 22 (01:28:13):
Is there any chance that Canada or China could also
get out of the terrace after.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
You start to deal with much Well, nobody's out with Mexico.
We had a great talk with Mexico and we had
the president.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Chinbaum is a woman I like her very much. We've
had good relationships, but we have to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Stop fentanyl from coming in, whether I like somebody or not,
and we have to stop the illegal aliens from coming in.
I think we've lost two hundred thousand people on average
a year for many years, much higher than one hundred thousand,
could be even closer to three hundred thousand. And they've
agreed to put in ten thousand soldiers permanently like forever,

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ten thousand soldiers at their side of the border and
stop fentanyl and illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Alliens from coming into our country. They have a big
incentive to do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Other than that, we've agreed to talk and consider various
other things. We haven't agreed on tariffs yet and maybe
we won't. Maybe we won't, but we have a very
good relationship. I also spoke with Prime Minister Trudeau of
Canada and we had a good talk in the morning.
But I did ask him a couple of questions, like,

(01:29:24):
you know, banks aren't allowed to do business in Canada.
Canada is very tough, Canada is very you know, we're
not treated well by Canada and we have to be
treated well. Banks are not, as an example, allowed, Did
you know that that banks. American banks are not allowed
to do business in Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Can you believe that? And that's one of many things.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
And we talked about and I think we'll win most
of the subjects, but for some reason, a lot of
things have been very unfair with Canada. I noticed that
in the first term, you deal with people, and after
a while you begin to realize, like you learned that
Larry Ellison's very tough to do business with. Okay, it's
a very tough guy. I mean, I'm sure you're shocked

(01:30:04):
to hear that, but Canada is very tough. They're very,
very tough to do business with. And we can't let
them take advantage of the US. And they don't take
our agricultural product for the most part, they don't take
our cars.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
They make cars, but they basically don't take our cars.
And you know, we don't need and look, I think
we're going to have another good conversation today. We're actually
speaking at three o'clock again.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
But we don't need them to make our cars, we
don't need them to give us lumber, We don't need
them for agricultural products because we have all the agriculture
we need. They don't take our agricultural product for the
most part, our milk and dairy et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
A little bit they do, but not much. We take theirs.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
And as far as cars are concerned, they took in
a big percentage, almost nineteen percent of the market. And
you know, I wouldn't mind making our cars in the
United States, so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
We have a problem there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
I'd like to make our cars in the US. We
don't need Canada to make our cars. With that being said,
we're going to have another call at three o'clock. We
had a call this morning. It was a pretty good call,
I'd say so. The call with Mexico went very well
in the sense that they're very strong now on the border.
They're going to put soldiers there, actually their best military soldiers,

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and they're going to be at the border ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
That it's a lot of soldiers and they want to
protect it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
Also, you know, they want they don't want people running
through Mexico, coming through Mexico to come into our country.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
So they're going to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
And then we're going to talk about other things over
the next and we're going to have over the next
thirty days, we're going to have Scott Howard and Marco
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, lead the delegation and we're
going to have a big negotiation with Mexico. I'll be
involved too, and President Shinbaum will be involved to see
whether or not we could work something out on the tariffs.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
China.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Will be speaking to China, probably over the next twenty
four hours. Trump, we don't want fentnol coming into our country.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Now. We had another big thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Speaking of China, China's involved with the Panama Canal.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
They won't be for long, and that's the way it
has to be.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Marco just got back, as you know, he's in the
process of coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
I guess he's almost back by.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Now, and he had a very long conversation with the
leader of Panama, the respected man, and some others, the
entire leadership group, and we're trying to work a deal
with the Panama Canal. The Panama Canal was given foolishly

(01:32:48):
years ago to It shouldn't have been happened years ago
to Panama. Like Jimmy Carter and the group, we lost
thirty eight thousand people building the Panama Canal. Like the
one of the great wonders of the world. It's the
biggest job we've ever built, the biggest project we've ever
built in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Dollar wise and every other way.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Thirty eight thousand people died Americans, all men, just about
laborers and construction people.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
They went to Panama. The mosquito got them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Between mosquito and snakes, we lost thirty eight thousand people.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
It was the most expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
Project ever built by the United States, the biggest, most
expensive project we ever built one hundred and ten years ago.
If you bring it up to now, it would have
been the equivalent of two trillion dollars, the most expensive
we ever built.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
And we gave it away for one dollar.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Okay, we gave it away essentially for it nothing, and
we either wanted back or we're going to get something
very strong. We're going to take it back and China
will be dealt with. And we didn't give that to China.

(01:34:07):
We gave it to Panama. We shouldn't have given it
to Panama. But Panama, as you know, has violated the agreement,
totally violated the agreement.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
So that's in the process right now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
But they did have a very good meeting with the
head of Panamas.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Did on China.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Do you say you're current thinking about whether you're trying
to should be to pay preparations with professional deaths.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
And new No. I haven't talked about that, but they
do have tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Honestly, nobody the amount of money that was lost and
most importantly, the lives lost because of COVID WILL is
not something that anybody could ever even imagine. It's probably
sixty trillion dollars. At all the countries in the world
don't have sixty trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
The amount of death and the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
Amount of destruction and the amount of money lost is
probably sixty trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
I had it figured by people about three months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
Just figured that nobody knows what the real number is,
but it's almost an infinite number the damage done. But
I have not discussed that. What I have discussed is
we'll have some good meetings with China. We have meetings
planned and we'll see what happens. But that was just
an opening salvo. If we can't make a deal with China,

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then the tariffs will be very, very substantial.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Okay, I'm going to sign this one, sir.

Speaker 23 (01:35:34):
This is you've obviously made making America healthy again at
key priority this administration. A key component of that is
obviously heart health. This is a ceremonial proclamation declaring the
month of February to be National Heart Month.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Okay, oh yeah, we're doing very well with nominations.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
We'll see, but it looks like we're doing very well
with nominations.

Speaker 22 (01:35:57):
Centers who have some concerns about puls.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Yes, yeah, I've gotten great response. Then they want to
do what's right, and we've had a good response.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
I think we'll do well. We have great people like
people like this. We have great, great people coming in.
I think i'd like to say the best ever recruited
for government.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
I think we have the finest people ever recruited for government.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
We'll take an Act of Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
And you know what, you're starting to see that because
we've done more in two weeks than Biden's done in
five years.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Six years. They could be here between him and Obama.
You added up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
Okay, we've done more in two weeks than they've done
in twelve years.

Speaker 22 (01:36:40):
We'll take an Act of Congress to do away with
USAIDA or pople You.

Speaker 17 (01:36:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
I don't think so. No, not when it comes to fraud.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
If there's fraud, these people are lunatics, and if it
comes to fraud, you wouldn't have an Act of Congress,
and I'm not sure that you would anyway. But we
just want to do the right thing. That it's something
that should have been done a long time ago. It
went crazy during the Biden administraty. They went totally crazy.
What they were doing and the money they were giving

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to people that shouldn't be getting it into agencies and
others that shouldn't be getting it was a shamed So
they're tremendous fraud.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
But we'll be doing a report.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
We'll be giving you that report at the appropriate time.

Speaker 22 (01:37:22):
You know, the first the USA, it was something that
you liked in some respect.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
I love the concept of it, Yeah, sure, I love
the concept. But they turned out to be radical left
lunatics and the concept of it is good, but it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
About the people. Said, you also want to impose terriff
on you?

Speaker 9 (01:37:41):
What kind of terrify you?

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Well, we have massive deficits with the European Union, massive,
like three hundred and fifty billion dollars if you can
believe it. They don't take our farm product, they don't
take our cars, they don't take almost anything. But we
take their cars. We have millions of cars coming in
BMW and Mercede, these Bends and Volkswagon and just so
many different cars, and we don't do anything about that, and.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
We don't charge them tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
They make it impossible to sell cars in the European Union.
They make it very difficult agricultural product. They actually don't
take it, and they have a lot of excuses. Some
of them are the pesticides and the different chemicals he used.
And Bobby Kennedy actually is looking at that very seriously
because maybe it's not necessary to use all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
You know, we want to be the healthiest country, and
we're not.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
We spend more money on food than anybody else in
terms of its creation, but we're not the healthiest country.
So maybe there is something to the fact that we
shouldn't be using so much chemical and maybe that'll stop.
But Bobby Kennedy is the one because he is not
a believer in all of the things we have done,
and neither are the Europeans. So we'll see what happens.

(01:38:56):
But they use it as an excuse not to buy
our product.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
And you tried. I ask a couple of the leaders.
I don't want to use names.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
But how many Chevrolets or Fords do you see in
the middle of Munich and the Airswer's none because.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
They don't take any cars. They don't take anything.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
So the European has abused the United States for years
and they can't do that, and they want to make
a deal. Let me tell you, in all cases, they
all want to make deals. There's nobody that doesn't want
to make deals. They've been abusers and they want to
make deals.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
So we'll see about that, but.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
We'll have I think some very fair. All we want
is a fair deal. And you know there's a word reciprocal.
I'd go right now, reciprocal tariffs on everybody because many
of the countries that you feel so horrible about the
way they're being treated by Trump. You're saying, oh, President
Trump is so terrible to them, Well, they charge just tariffs.
European Union is a vattax, which is through the roof. Okay,

(01:39:57):
it's a similar thing to a terror. It's a vat
and they have it and it's numbers like you wouldn't believe.
And in Canada, I told you about the banks, and
I told you they charge us. And people don't say
that they don't like to say it, just like they
don't like to say that I opened up the water
for California. It's a great thing. It's too bad they

(01:40:18):
didn't do it themselves. I had to do it and
it was not easy. We did it a very rough way,
and I didn't like to do it a rough way.
We shouldn't have to do it a rough way. But
a lot of these countries that were talking about, you know,
they are so called allies, but they don't treat us well.
And just like I got four hundred and twenty billion
dollars and now it's actually over six hundred billion dollars.

(01:40:41):
The Secretary General of NATO came in two weeks ago
and he said it was a miracle when Trump came in.
When President Trump came into NATO, I got He said
it was six hundred and thirty six billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
By saying to them, no, you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Have to pay, and if you don't pay, we're not
going to be there for you. You know, somebody has to
say it. And they paid and it was a large
amount of money. And one of the problems we have
with the resh of Ukraine situation is that we wanted
to see some equalization because we're in for close to
three hundred billion dollars and they're in for two hundred

(01:41:19):
billion dollars less. Why are they in for less because
Biden never asked them for money, He never said you
got to pay, he never did. All he did is
handout money. So we're talking with them right now, and
we're actually working some deals right now.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
So we have some some guarantees and some other things
to keep that whole situation to go really going, I
mean going.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
We're telling Ukraine they have very valuable rare earth. We
want what we put up to go in terms of
a guarantee.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
We want to guarantee we.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Want We're handing them money handover fist. We're giving them equipment.
European is not keeping up with us. They should equalize,
and look, we have an ocean in between.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
They don't. It's more important for them than it is
for us.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
But they're way below us in terms of money and
they should be paying at least equal.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
They should really be paying much more than us.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
But let's say equal to us, and they have billions
and billions of dollars below. So we're looking to do
a deal with Ukraine where they're going to secure what
we're giving them with their rare earth and other things.

Speaker 22 (01:42:33):
They deal with mass too this morning? How is that
partially related to the market reaction and a criticism for
Mistumaros on newspaper You called it the dmonstrated work on
the editorial pat outside, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Going to have to talk to him. I've been right
over the Wall Street Journal many times. I will tell
you that I don't agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Him on some things. Now, it's not only is it
not them you're going to see.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
You're going to say every single one of those countries
is dying to make a deal. You know why, because
they're ripping us off really badly, and the United States
is tired of being ripped We were just being ripped off,
and that's why we have thirty six trillion dollars in debt.
We have it for a reason because we make bad
deals with everybody, and we.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Don't allow that anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
So the Wall Street Journal is wrong because very simply,
every single country that you're writing about right now is
dying to make a deal because the deals they have
right now are so good and so good for them
and so profitable for them. You didn't know that Canada
didn't allow our banks. You didn't know all of these
different things. And I think in the end you're going

(01:43:43):
to see that either very very substantial tariffs are going
to be paid by them, or they're going to make
some kind of a deal.

Speaker 22 (01:43:52):
Mexican president did what did you blake this morning?

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
There was no blake you. No, she's a wonderful woman.
But she did agree to tenth thousand soldiers on the border.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
I would say that's a lot. Would you say that's
pretty good?

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Ten thousand soldiers on the border, and the ten thousand
soldiers are going to keep illegal aliens out, and they're
going to keep them out, seriously out, and otherwise they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
To have a big penalty. Mexico is going to be penalized.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
They're not going to come through Mexico anymore, and they're
not going to let the fentanyl come in from China,
and China hopefully is going to stop sending US fentanyl,
and if they're not, the tariffs are going to go
substantially higher.

Speaker 22 (01:44:32):
When you said about Ukraine earlier, the rare Earth, is
that something you want.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Them to give the rare Earth to the United States?

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
Yeah, I want to have security of rare earth.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
We're putting in hundreds of billions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
They have great rare earth, and I want security of
the rare earth, and they're willing to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Lot of Canada.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
When you talk to Justin Trudeau again, is there anything.

Speaker 9 (01:44:55):
He can give you at three DM when you talk again.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
To Paul's, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Like you said, we have big deficits with Canada, like
we do with all countries. I mean, I look at
some of the deals made, I say, who the hell made?

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
These deals are so bad?

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
But with Canada, I have a talk with him, and
you maybe know or maybe not. We're going to meet
again or talk again at three o'clock right after my
next meeting, and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
I can't tell you what's going to happen that he.

Speaker 10 (01:45:25):
Could agree to change your mind.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
On the turb Well, we can always look what I'd
like to see Canada become our fifty first state. We
give them protection, military protection. We don't need them to
build our cars. I'd rather see Detroit or South Carolina
or any one of our Tennessee, any one of our
states build the cars. They could do it very easily.
We don't need them for the cars. We don't need

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them for lumber, we don't need them for anything. We
don't need them for energy. We have more energy than
they do. We don't need them for energy. So I say,
why are we doing this? Why do we Why are
we willing to lose between one hundred billion and two
hundred billion dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
We don't need them as a state. It's different.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
As a state, it's much different, and there are no tariffs.
So I'd love to see that, but some people say
that would be a long shot. If people wanted to
play the game right, it would be one hundred percent
certain that they'd become a state. But a lot of
people don't like to play the game because they don't

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have a threshold of pain, and there would be some pain,
but not a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
The pain would be really there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
So we're going to meet again by phone at three
o'clock and we'll let you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Trump. You're curves at Yat coming in tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Yes, you mentioned as concert that is will be too
small geographically.

Speaker 10 (01:46:51):
Would you support annexation as the West state Israel?

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Well, I'm not going to talk about that. It certainly
is a small a small country in terms of land.
I take see this pen. There's a wonderful pen. My
desk is the Middle East, and this pen the top
of the pen that's Israel. That's not good, right, you know,
that's a pretty big difference. I use that as analogy.
It's pretty accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
Actually, it's it's a pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
Small piece of land, and it's amazing that they've been
able to do what they've been able to do.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
When you think about it, there's a lot of good
smart brain power, but it is a very small piece
of land. No question about it. That e one of
us is giving everything.

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
Your successor, is there everything that he has done this far?

Speaker 22 (01:47:35):
For all the agency's shutting off access of getting acids
in their dat's battle has.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
For the most part, Yeah, if we I mean, if
there was something that didn't have money, okay, I'd let
you know about it really fast.

Speaker 18 (01:47:50):
There's some areas where you wouldn't let work because he
has confidence of interest.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
If there was a count no, no, I haven't seen
that and he would know not to do it. So
we haven't had that yet. But if there was a conflict,
we would let them work.

Speaker 18 (01:48:01):
In the day Panma that they were gonna be a
deal where the US is going to take it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
How long do they have to make that sort of deal?
And I'm still leading on the table. We're gonna meet
with Pana. We're gonna meet with Panama.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
On Friday at about three point thirty in the afternoon
by phone, and maybe there'll be some representatives that you
know here or there. But we're gonna be uh talking
to Panama on Friday essentially, and they've agreed to certain things.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
But I'm not happy with it.

Speaker 10 (01:48:34):
President that I may used to have the dells that
the cease fire withhold on.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
I have no assurances that it'll hold. I mean, I've
seen people brutalized. I've never nobody's ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Anything like it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
No, I have no guarantees that the piece is gonna hold. Uh, Steve,
you might wanna say something about that, Steve Wicco.

Speaker 24 (01:48:55):
It's holding so hard so and we're we're certainly hopeful,
and that's the President's direction. Get the hostages out and
save lives and come to hopefully a peaceful settlement of
it all.

Speaker 16 (01:49:09):
So so far, it's holding, mister President.

Speaker 22 (01:49:12):
On a different topic, Questioneers had been going out to
FBI agents across the country who were involved or potentially
an investigation to pleat anyone involved in any of the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Truty fires or well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
I think the FBI was a very corrupt institution, and
I'm a victim of it in a true sense. I
was able to beat it, but other people have been
treated horribly. I think the FBI has a great REPUTA
had a great reputation. I think its reputation was really
damaged badly, as is DOJ. Look at what they've done

(01:49:47):
in terms of weaponization, look at what they've done to
a political opponent.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
Probably got me elected by what they did. I think
I was doing well anyway, but they might have got
me elected.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
But you know what, we have to have pristine, beautiful,
perfect law enforcement and what we want to do, and
I Cash is the one to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
He's the one guy that is going to do it.
We have to bring the reputation of the FBI.

Speaker 25 (01:50:12):
We have to bring the fact of the FBI back
to what it could be, not even to what it was,
even better than it ever was, because who would have
thought that the FBI could have been corrupted like they
were corrupted.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Who would have thought that would have happened.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Who would have thought they would have been used to
go after political opponents essentially, but me being the number one,
and so many other things beyond that. And they've been
hurt very badly. And we'll see what happens. But Cash
is the one to do it, and I hear he's.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
Doing very well. Cash will straighten it out.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
We have great confidence that we can make the FBI
great again.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Okay, one or two more will be done.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
It