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July 18, 2025 94 mins

Commentary on Jeffrey Epstein, the Dignity Act, deportation, jobs for the next generation, university prices, shop class, interview of Tom Homan, illegal immigration, violence against ice officers, child labor, wages, workforce, amnesty, the MAGA base, and borders 
 

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I want to speak to you today about a controversial
issue that could directly impact you and your family during
a global health emergency. Last year, the World Health Organization's
governing body made some far reaching amendments to his International
Health Regulations, otherwise known as the IHR Regulations. These regulations

(00:42):
established the legal framework that gives countries rights and responsibilities
for managing public health events with global impact. The deadline
to reject these amendments is next week, and we are
rejecting them. So I'd like to explain to you why.
The first reason is national sovereignty. Nations who accept the

(01:02):
new regulations are signing over their power and health emergencies
to an unelected international organization that could order lockdowns, travel restrictions,
or any other measures that sees fit. In fact, it
doesn't even need to declare an emergency. Potential public health
risks are enough for it to initiate action.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
In the latest CNN poll, you know, obviously Democrats want
to try to do something about this.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
But Democrats are.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Seeing their lowest approval ratings in history, and that includes
the party's own supporters saying this that that's unfavorable the
Democratic Party as a whole. What do you think the
problem is with the Democratic Party?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Look, and you can see right now we are fighting.
We are clearly fighting what they are doing by cutting
people's health care, by taking away money from national security,
by taking away money from emergency preparedness. And I think
they know how wildly unpopular these things are. That's what
we're doing. We are focusing on what our vision is,
how we're hoping to actually grow an economy that works

(02:03):
for everybody, to keep America safe, to keep America secure,
to have good jobs here for people. And they're focused
on everything else right now because they don't want people
to focus on what they're actually doing.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
We believe strongly the Trump EPA that we absolutely can
and must both protect the environment and grow the economy.
We can choose both, it's not a binary choice between
the two. We inherited what was a regulatory framework where
the Biden administration was trying to regulate the coal industry
completely out of existence. President Trump often talks about his

(02:36):
support for clean, beautiful coal. It is an important source
of power for so many in this country. It's a
source of jobs, for an economic engine in many parts
of this country. So we have been unraveling what was
a big mess that we inherited, and we're going to
get this right now.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
This is the end of a publicly funded media era.
This dates back to the days of black and white television,
you know, back in the sixties. Congress all of value
for PBS and MPR, but no more. As a result
of this, precision radio and TV stations will have to
lay off staffers and cut back on programming. Some smaller
stations will suffer more than bigger stations.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Right he said, We've got a problem with entire food
deserts where people can't get access to grocery stores. Said,
I'd like to take a look at whether or not
we can have some kind of you know, like we
do a military basis, you have some kind of support
from the city government that says we're going to get
some food grocery stores in.

Speaker 9 (03:37):
Areas that right now with the deserts.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
I'd rather try that than any of the other alternatives
available to me.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I support that.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
Before we start the show, I want to let you
know something that I found out just last night. Next
year will be our last season. The network will be
ending the Late Show in.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
May and.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, are your feelings.

Speaker 9 (04:01):
It's not just the end of our show, but it's
the end of the late show on CBS.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I'm not being replaced. This is all just going away.

Speaker 10 (04:09):
I'm with the President. I mean, we need detention beds,
thank you know, I thank goodness we've got the big
beautiful bill pass because right now we've got about fifty
nine thousand in custody. But this morning I woke up,
we got less than four hundred beds available, four hundred
and two bedroom. I will tell them, you know, by noon.
So we're constantly chasing our tail, trying to get as

(04:30):
many movement, remove our flights as possible, to clean up,
to clean up some more beds so we can continue
arresting the worst, the worst. So I'm with the President.
We need we need the beds. We got to get
the one hundred thousand beds, maybe even more. We have
the money to do it, so we can't rest. We
got got it right now. Get as many beds as
we can, as many transportation contracts as we can, both
over the ground and in the air, and as many

(04:51):
contractors as we can, and boots on the ground. So
we're not we're not waiting We're moving quickly.

Speaker 11 (05:00):
The will to believe in the greatest country in the
history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
A lot here we go.

Speaker 12 (05:12):
Okay, everybody, Radio stations across the country honored to be
with you. As always, Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
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Speaker 4 (05:30):
The studio is playing some music here.

Speaker 12 (05:36):
Oh is that I get along with the little help
of my friends. Joe Crocker. Happy Friday, everybody. There's some
breaking news happening that developed last night.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I get along with a little help of my friends.
Brian's looking around very confused.

Speaker 12 (05:56):
It'll all make sense in just the second breaking Last night,
the Wall Street Journal attempted a terrible drive by, as
the great Rush Limba woulday it as I'm wearing my
Rush was right t shirt of our phenomenal president.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean this.

Speaker 12 (06:11):
As soon as I read the story, I said, this
is the dumbest, obviously fakest thing.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 12 (06:17):
Apparently it was some sort of like a pseudo love letter.
The Bombshell story was some kind of birthday card album
assembled for Epstein by Gallaine Maxwell in two thousand and three.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
There's no photo of the letter.

Speaker 12 (06:33):
In question or the birthday card supposedly sent by other people.
It only described by the Wall Street Journal, which also
cites people familiar with them, so they clearly didn't see
the whole thing. The card is some sort of a
hand drawn illustration of a naked woman done in marker
and then Donald Trump's signature over her midsection to apparently

(06:53):
imitate pubic hair. It's just like for Epstein's fiftieth birthday.
The implication is that Trump my have made this illustration himself,
which just sounds so bizarre. When has he ever done
anything like this? Look, I have several handwritten notes from
President Trump. He's not a doodler, he's not a drug
I mean, this is this is nothing like him at all.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
I mean these are Yeah.

Speaker 12 (07:19):
So there's a typed up third person conversation between Trump
and Epstein where the lines attributed Trump don't sound like
him at all, like this quote Enigma's never age. Okay,
let me just say this. I know the president. You
guys know the president. You have watched him for over
a decade. Do Maga rallies Ever since he went down
the golden escalator. Does quote Enigma's never age quote, may

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every day be a wonderful secret? Does that sound like
President Donald Trump? Trump never said, says Trump says this
was all a hoax, and says, as far as he's concerned,
it sounds like it. Nothing sounds remotely like Trump. He
would write up on his own. And so the Wall
Street Journal releases this likenight now, I quickly and we
quickly came to the President's defense because this thing was

(08:05):
obviously a hit job, obviously a drive by shooting, trying
to go after President Trump, trying to tie some of
the Epstein news to President Trump to try to bring
down his approval ratings and try to weaken him. Right
after that, though, was a like literally within an hour,
President Donald Trump announced a bombshell development massive where President

(08:29):
Donald Trump announced that he is authorizing Pambondi to move
to unseal the grand jury testimony in the Gallain Maxwell case.
We discussed this a couple times throughout the week. This
is a massive development. This is something that needs to
be focused on for any of you that care about
the Epstein story. What's likely to be in the transcripts well,

(08:50):
testimony of Epstein and Maxwell, victims and witnesses, in particular
their actions, their associations, locations, and timelines. Discussions of physical
documentary evidence is likely to be in there. Maxwell's phone,
wiretap records, logbooks, private island and photographic evidence. We don't
know for sure if that's going to be in there,
but any references to any of that stuff very well

(09:12):
might be in the grand jury documents. However, certain experts
note that these transcripts may be limited in scope. They
will focus on Epstein and Maxwell, not on the broader
allegations among other high profile individuals. But still, this is
a phenomenal development, and thank you President Trump, and thank
you to this Trump administration. So the team decided to
play you know, I Get Along with the help of

(09:33):
my friends, is a little bit kind of as a
lighthearted joke and a little bit of a wink and
a nod. You see, I went viral this week because
I said, look, a lot of people that I know
in the administration, my friends and the White House staff
and throughout the government, they.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Were working on this.

Speaker 12 (09:49):
That your voices were heard over the weekend at the
Student Action Summit, and.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
People were mocking me.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
They say, oh, Charlie, do you trust the government? I said, Look, okay,
I'm not saying I trust the government. I say, my friends,
they're working on this. Well it turns out well, it
looks like they were, and they deserve great credit for it,
for all the White House staff, for everyone that was
involved in this, and especially of course the president. This
is a massive move and one that has met with
celebration and one that has met with gratitude, and one

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that honestly shows that President Trump is moving in a
transparent way that Joe Biden never moved.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Joe Biden very well could have moved.

Speaker 12 (10:23):
To unseal the Grand Jury documents. Many of these things
have been in the works, and I didn't know how
long any of this was going to take, obviously, And look,
this show is full of at times little easter eggs
and tidbits, and instead of assuming the worst, perhaps I
want everyone to see things more clearly and again, has
President Trump not earned our trust at this time? That's

(10:46):
what I was trying to say back on Monday, and
maybe I said it a little imprecisely after a sleepless
weekend and a high adrenaline event. What I was trying
to get at is, after the tariffs, after the Iran,
after the Iran situation, after all the success, says President
Donald Trump is worthy of our confidence. We should have
a full confidence vote in President Donald Trump. And throughout

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the entire week, I know that there was a lot
of question of hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
What's going on here?

Speaker 12 (11:14):
And now here we are on Friday, number one, he
gets attacked just relentlessly by the Wall Street Journal in
such an uncalled for a way, and we have his
back one hundred percent against this smearing and the slandering.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And then number two.

Speaker 12 (11:27):
President Donald Trump has authorized Pam Bondy a in a
historic way to show a commitment to transparency and what
he has said this entire week, and he has always
had an ace in the hole to play boom. Last night,
President Donald Trump drops this massive news. And President Donald
Trump has been alluding to that all week. I want

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the credible information out, you know, if it's credible, we
should get out. And the Grand jury documentation largely is
credible and should be received as such. And also let's
just be honest everybody, we do not want what has
happened this last week to slow down the momentum of
this great administration. We're not going to let that happen
on this program. That is why we're going to cover
this in just one segment. We have Mike Row later

(12:09):
this week, later this hour, and then I'm gonna talk
about amnesty the next segment. This is very important and
the President deserves thanks. So for any of you in
the audience that we're a little uneasy, that are a
little anxious, I think it's morally incumbent on you to
say thank you, President Trump. Thank you for stepping up
and for doing this. Thank you President Trump for fulfilling

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what you said you were going to do. Because he
does deserve credit, and the entire White House administration deserves
credit because they've been dealing with nine hundred different things.
And I know that patience in the time of social
media is a virtue that is lost. It's very difficult
for a lot of us. I'm one of the most
impatient people imaginable. My entire team will tell you where's
it going, what's happening in real time, Mike.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
You will test to this.

Speaker 12 (12:52):
I'm the most one of the most impatient people ever
created on God's green Earth. But President Donald Trump, we
should take a step back. He's doing a phenomenal job
order secure. The economy's doing much better, he's ending wars
all over the world.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
That he has earned one of my favorite words in
the English language, he has earned our confidence. He has
earned it, and I.

Speaker 12 (13:16):
Think we should say at this particular time, this is
a massive move. It is a major move that is
deserving of gratitude and of things with all the other
stuff that he's working on. But also it was very
fun to see nothing unites Maga like fake news. And
it was also so interesting because the DOJ news became second.

(13:41):
It was very telling when to see who actually came
to the president's defense when this Wall Street Journal piece
was dropped.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
It was very telling.

Speaker 12 (13:53):
A lot of people were coming to the president's defense
after the Pambondi news, but it was very telling that
a lot of people did not defend the president there.
I mean, this is so ridiculous. Someone said, what this
is like the picture of Donald Trump? Donald Trump did this.
It's such a joke that you know, he's like some
sort of doodler and now he's some you know, he's

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he's Robert Frost or something.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
As a poet.

Speaker 12 (14:17):
It's it doesn't read like him. It doesn't sound like him.
I don't believe it. I will say, though, the Wall
Street Journal story does not pass the smell test. Why
didn't Democrats use this story years ago? It's a good question.
Nothing unites MAGA quite like fake news. Last night was
a big night. We say thank you, President Trump. And
now it's in the hands of the courts. It's in

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the hands of the Department of Justice, and we'll see
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Be right back, Okay, everybody, welcome back.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
And so look, we are going to keep our eyes
closely on the moved unsealed documents and all Epstein news
as it develops, and we are not done with it
by any means necessary. But Andrew had all the fun yesterday.
I want to get in on the action. You know,
I took a day to kind of enjoy the beauty
in the undisclosed location.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
So I want to get out of the fun here.

Speaker 12 (17:37):
There there will be time next week We're gonna cover
all the Epstein stuff.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
But I gotta get it on amnesty. That's fun.

Speaker 12 (17:42):
I want to get in on that. Andrew had a
whole show on amnesty and people are texting me. He said, Charlie,
Andrew's crushing it. And I said, oh, Andrew did great,
But I want to get he gets all the Amnesty
fun the one day I take off. He gets a
whole hour on amnesty.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
He said.

Speaker 12 (17:56):
I want to I want to jump into that because
let's be honest, everybody, no, Amnesty is a core, core,
core promise. Andrew did a whole okay to half an
hour on amnesty. And so I saw this clip and
I know her. I know Maria Elvira Salazar. I actually

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campaigned for her once. She's in a very Cuban district,
which is unusual why she's so pro amnesty being from
a Cuban Venezuelan district because there's not a lot of
illegals her in the Cuban demographic. Many of them have
come here legally or they came under legitimate asylum of
refugee status, so it doesn't make a lot of sense.

(18:37):
It makes a lot more sense if she was a
representative from a border town in Texas. But remember we
warned about this a couple of weeks ago. I heard
whispers of this. Yesterday, a US senator who I really
respect text me Charlie Reeal chats for amnesty on the hill.
In fact, let me read you the text from this
US senator. Let me see here, Senator, here it is.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
He said.

Speaker 12 (19:02):
He said, we got to kill this amnesty push right now.
I'm so grateful for your post on this. We really
need to go hard on this. I said, is there
really a big amnesty push of question? She said, there is, yes,
unless we kill this quickly. So it's happened on Congress.
The president doesn't want amnesty, but Congress is going to
try to frame this in a manipultive and deceitful way. Again,
President Donald Trump, he has been resolute and stalwart in this.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
So let's play this. This is Maria al Vaira.

Speaker 12 (19:25):
Salazar, Chief Amnesty Czar of the US Congress. That Dignity Act.
What is the one that I want to play though?
Oh yeah, play cut four h two. This is miss amnesty.
Oh no, no, no, it's not amnesty, but it's amnesty. If
you ever say it's not amnesty, but it's one hundred
percent amnesty. This is low calorie amnesty. I'm sorry, it's

(19:45):
still amnesty. Play cut four h two.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
They did break the law.

Speaker 15 (19:49):
They are a leagues or undocumented, but they have been
here for more than five years contributing to the economy.
Those people, someone gave them a job and they are
needed because we need hands in order to to continue
being the number one economy in the world. So why
don't we do something solemnonic and let's break the baby
into two. No path to citizenship in my law, no amnesty,

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no path ever. Just bring them out of the shadows,
make them pay a fine for seven years, that is
billions of dollars to the treasury, make them give us
one percent of their salary over seven years, no federal programs,
no health insurance, and then they can go.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Back home for Christmas.

Speaker 15 (20:30):
They can come back, continue working, buying homes, paying taxes,
and contribute them to the economy.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
Okay, first of all, she says, why don't we split
something solomonic and split the baby intwo. I don't know
if she was being metaphorical in first Kings three. You
guys can read it. That's not actually what happened, and
that's a who all separate biblical issue. First of all,
Maria Elvirus Salazar, let me tell you exactly how this
is going to work. If you pass this ridiculous Dignity Act.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
This is what will happen.

Speaker 12 (21:01):
Every illegal will claim that they have been here for
more than five years, thus ending all deportation. In real time.
You see, Maria, she's lying to you. Maria is deceiving you.
Congressoman Elvirs Salazar is a snake on this topic. I
guess gotta be honest. Becau's like, oh, you know, we're
gonna have some dignity. No, no, no, this is not the
Dignity Act. This is the Stop Deportation Act of twenty

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twenty five. So imagine, if you've been here for three years,
to say you've been here for five years, that's an
easy fib that is an easy lie. All of a sudden,
a deportation officer knocks on your door and they have
removal orders, and our record keeping is a joke, it
is a fraud, and all of a sudden someone says no, no, no, no,
sinko sink on sinko onos, sinko onnos, sinko onyos. That's

(21:44):
all they have to say sinko onyos, sinko onyos, and
all of a sudden, boom, the deportation officer has to
go put them.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Through a whole other rigmarole.

Speaker 12 (21:52):
Our record keeping is a joke because we have intentionally
sabotaged it.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
We intentional let people lie.

Speaker 12 (21:58):
I'm not even get into the merits of how bad
her idea is. I'm getting down to the technical enforcement
problem of what Maria the Amnesty Cesar of Congress, is saying.
What she is saying here basically is that all of
a sudden we go get hands on someone that has
been here for two years under the threshold what she
considers to be there. And all they have to do

(22:19):
they have to say the magic words. Remember the hocus
pocus words to get into America under Biden was amnesty,
I am the asylum, asylum, asylum, asylum. Those were the
hocus pocus words to be able to get to your
travel agent from Expedia dot com, which Bordertrol was. Now
the average words is. All they have to say is
two things in Spanish sinco onyos, sinco onnus, sinko onos.

(22:43):
If they say that it's the secret password to stop
all deportation. Oh but it's no pathway to citizenship. Oh
but it's worse than amnesty. It grinds mass portations that
you voted for to a halt. Let's go through the breaks, guys,
I have more to say with this than we have
micro Let me go through the breaks.

Speaker 13 (23:08):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates.

Speaker 16 (23:13):
While President Trump continues calling the case involving Jeffrey Epstein
a scam and a hoax, he appears to be responding
to the public calls for the release of more information
and documents. Taking to true social the President, writing, based
on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to the Jeffrey
Epstein case, I have asked Attorney General Pambondi to produce
any an all pertinent grand jury testimonies, subject to court approval.

(23:37):
This scam perpetuated by the Democrats, should end right now.
In the meantime, the Commander in chief also leading the
cavalry and pushing back against a report that then private
citizen Donald Trump sent accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein
a salacious birthday letter.

Speaker 13 (23:55):
The Wall Street Journal is reporting.

Speaker 16 (23:57):
That in that letter of the President laid out several things,
but clearly upset about this reporting. The President writing the
Wall Street Journal printed a fake letter supposedly to Epstein.
These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also,
I don't draw pictures. I told Rupert Murdock it was
a scam that he shouldn't print this fake story. But

(24:19):
he did, and now I'm going to sue his ass off,
he writes Meantime, the White House says the President Trump
is in good health after being diagnosed with chronic venus insufficiency.
The condition, excuse me, is said to be fairly common
among older adults.

Speaker 17 (24:36):
In the effort of transparency, the President wanted me to
share a note from his physician with all of you today.
In recent weeks, President Trump noted mild swelling in his
lower legs and keeping with routine medical care and out
of an abundance of caution, This concern was thoroughly evaluated
by the White House Medical Unit, and the President remains
in excellent health, which I think all of you witness

(24:59):
on a daily basis.

Speaker 16 (25:00):
Here and one of the President's most prominent critics will
be leaving late night television next May. CBS is canceling
the Late Night Show, with Stephen Colbert saying that it's
purely a financial decision and not related to the show's
performance or content. The decision also comes after Colbert criticized
CBS parent company for its sixteen million dollar settlement with

(25:22):
President Trump over the edited sixty minutes interview with then
presidential opponent Kamala Harris.

Speaker 11 (25:42):
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Com joining us now is the legendary Mike Row. Mike,
thank you so much for taking the time. I want
to start with cut four four four and we'll take
it from there. Play cut four four four.

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We've been telling kids for fifteen years to code, learn
to code. We said, yeah, well, AI is coming for
the coders. They're not coming for the welders. They're not
coming for the plumbers. They're not coming for the steamfitters,
or the pipefitters, or.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
The h fact.

Speaker 18 (26:50):
They're not coming for the electricians. You know that ideas
festival I was telling you about an Aspen I sat
there and listened to Larry Fink say we need five
hundred thousand electricians in the next couple of years. Not hyperbole.
This is me being the alarmist again.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Mike.

Speaker 12 (27:13):
That clip went so viral. Thank you for saying that.
Tell us more about where you said it and the
significance of your push to rebuild blue collar America.

Speaker 18 (27:24):
Micro Thanks Charlie. Yeah, one of the craziest events I've
ever attended, simply because of its import and I think
the lack of coverage that it's gotten. This was the
Energy and AI Summit convened in Pittsburgh a couple days
ago by both sitting senators of that state. This was

(27:49):
primarily David McCormick's event. He's the Republican, but John Fetterman
was there, the Democrat, along with hundreds of people and
thirty or forty of the CEOs the biggest companies in
the country, and the President was there. I was on
the stage with the President and thirty CEOs as they

(28:12):
pledged ninety two billion dollars to create a bunch of
jobs in the energy sector, specifically in Pennsylvania for the
purposes of building data centers, which are basically AI factories
as we know. And this was a big deal, and

(28:33):
I mean, everybody was there, and I think I got
invited to sort of remind the crowd that creating jobs
is different than creating enthusiasm for jobs. And you know,
I'm kind of a Debbie Downer in a situation like that,

(28:53):
because I think a lot of people still cling to
this idea that the way to get people back to
work is to we eate jobs or create more opportunity.
But that kind of collapses under its own weight when
you look at seven point six million open jobs at
the moment, including five hundred thousand open jobs in manufacturing.
So in general, Charlie, my message was, Look, I was

(29:18):
rooting for Obama in two thousand and nine when he
promised three million shovel ready jobs in his Highway Infrastructure Act.
But I said at the time, very publicly, you're going
to have a tough time selling three million shovel ready
jobs to a country that is not all that enthused
about picking up a shovel.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I worry to.

Speaker 18 (29:36):
Today with this president if he succeeds, and I'm rooting
for him too, I want to see reshoring. I want
to see this reindustrialization in this country, this manufacturing renaissance.
But he's going to create a couple million jobs if
he pulls this off. And we're living in a world
and in a moment where we got five hundred thousand

(29:57):
jobs in manufacturing right now that we can't phil.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So that's kind of why I.

Speaker 18 (30:02):
Was there and the only suit and tie that I
actually own testifying.

Speaker 12 (30:08):
I was shocked to see you dressed like a banker micro.
I wasn't even sure what to think of it. I said,
I said, what is he doing? Some sort of like
I im merged acquisition deal.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Uh so.

Speaker 12 (30:21):
But but Mike, this look at that micro as a banker,
I said, this is new the president.

Speaker 18 (30:27):
So President looked at me and said, Micro, I didn't
recognize you in that get up. And I said, well,
mister President, you know all my other suits are rubber.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
If it makes you feel any better.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (30:37):
So I want to dive into this for a second.
And Mike, you deserve such credit. And I cite you
all the time. As you know, I am a outspoken
critic of the current college model. I didn't go to college.
I represent a lot of blue collar workers who are
fans of our show because I try to. I try
to give a voice to that portion of the country.
And but part of the problem, and we called them

(30:58):
the muscular class on the show, as you.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Know, Mike, part of the problem.

Speaker 12 (31:02):
Our parents around the country would rather have their kid
go into debt to study sociology at Wellesley than to
go work construction. Can you speak to that part of
that needs to be a cultural change for specifically suburban America.
If their son says, Mom, I want to be an electrician,
they should applaud.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
That they should celebrate it.

Speaker 12 (31:24):
They should encourage it because they actually might have better character,
a better financial balance sheet, less debt, and greater job
opportunities than studying communications at University of Illinois Micro.

Speaker 18 (31:37):
Well, to be charitable about it, I'm sympathetic to parents
who are who are desperately trying not to screw their
kids up. There's no playbook for this, of course, and
parents want to offer good advice. They they don't want
to mess it up. They're desperate for an instruction manual.

(31:58):
But we fall into this cookie cutter world where you know,
politicians in particular, but lots of other people do speak
very broadly and paint with a real broad brush. And
so a lot of parents who really don't know any
better have been told from the get go that the
best path for the most people is the most expensive path,
and that their kids are screwed if they don't take

(32:21):
that path. Therefore, surprise, surprise, universities have been able to
charge whatever they want, essentially because the Feds have opened
up a bottomless pile of free money and we have
collectively encouraged a whole generation to borrow whatever it takes
to fulfill their dreams. So it's not one person doing

(32:42):
a really foolish thing. It's a lot of people standing
by watching a lot of dumb things happen, including and
perhaps especially the removal of shop class from high school.
That really put us, That put us on a road, Charlie,
a bad road. And you know it didn't. It didn't
just impact the widening skills gap. It removed from view

(33:07):
any optical proof that a regular kid could have that
these muscular jobs exist. Walking from English to math class
and sticking your head in the metal shop and seeing
that image right there, at least you could get a
look at something that resembled work. But we took it
all out. We just arbitraged it right out of the

(33:30):
whole process. And so parents were left with this idea
that there was really only one path for their kid,
and if their kid couldn't take that path, everything else,
including that guy welding two pipes together, was some sort
of vocational consolation prize.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, the chickens have come home to roost.

Speaker 18 (33:51):
Ai, as I said in that clip, is coming for
the coders.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's not coming for that guy.

Speaker 18 (33:57):
That guy's job is secure and he's making me six figures.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And that's the message.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
And this is the show.

Speaker 12 (34:04):
So so yes, I love that, So I want I
want to zero in on that because that's so important.
So so Number one, I could speak from personal experience.
I've never really big into been into crafts or shop
just not my my focus or emphasis. But I went
to school a Wheeling High school and in the Starbugs of Chicago,
and we had a huge automotives and shop class. However,
it was always treated as if those were kind of

(34:26):
like the the secondary kids, Like those are the kids
that were not they're not in the ap classes and
they're not the ones that are going to be getting
the good jobs.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
And it was kind of looked down upon.

Speaker 12 (34:36):
Again, it wasn't said, you know, as audibly, but it
was a vibe. It was definitely the perspective that we
were given that come on, you're you're going to you know,
you're going to shop class. What you're kind of like
beneath the surface, so that that we need to change that.
But I want to just in the three and a
half minutes we have in this segment, because it's the
most important thing, we could talk about the vibes and

(34:57):
the cultural stuff forever. Can you go through the number
might grow? How many of these muscular jobs are going
to be necessary.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
How many AI jobs are going to be lost?

Speaker 12 (35:07):
And how many job openings are there right now in
America that pay a decent wage, that require a little
bit of skill, a little bit of training, and a
lot of hard work. What is the current economic number
showing us?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I can tell you what I know.

Speaker 18 (35:22):
I don't have a crystal ball, obviously, so I'm not
sure exactly how this is going to play out. But
in real time, right now, we have seven point six
million open jobs, the vast majority of which do not
require a four year degree. They require training within that cohort.
We've got another four hundred and eighty two thousand jobs
that are open in manufacturing right now. I can't tell

(35:47):
you definitively what they pay and what kind of path
you're going to get on if you jump into that
end of the pool, because state by state it varies.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
That this is the thing. It's a trap. You know.

Speaker 18 (36:01):
We want to be able to say this is what
a welder makes well. You know, I've trained twenty five
hundred welders. Many of them are making well into the
six figures. I just talked to a guy the other
day who came back from the Gulf of Oman underwater
welding three hundred grand a year tax free.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (36:22):
Now there are also welders in this country making fifty
five sixty thousand dollars in Louisiana and Ohio. So it's difficult, right,
But here's what gets lost, and here's what I'll leave
you with, because I know you got to go to
a break. People talk about welders and electricians and steam
fitters and pipe fitters as workers period. The vast majority

(36:45):
of small businesses we have in this country were formed
by men and women, but mostly men who mastered a
skill that was in demand and then went on to
buy a couple of vans and hire their buddy, maybe
a plumber, maybe a couple of HVAC guys, maybe some electricians,
and now they have a mechanical contracting company and they're

(37:05):
doing a few million bucks a year. Those stories need
to be told as well, because even though that event
I was just that, that was all about the macroeconomy,
that was macroworks' microworks, right, And I don't want to
lose sight of the individual. I don't want to lose
sight of the fact that mastering a skill that's in

(37:27):
demand can still take the right person with a modicum
of entrepreneurial spirit and a little bit of ambition.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
It'll put that person on a.

Speaker 18 (37:37):
Road, and that road leads to someplace that looks an
awful lot like prosperity.

Speaker 12 (37:44):
Microworks dot org. That is microworks dot org. And thank
you Mike for celebrating and dare I say, giving the
dignity that so many of these people deserve. They are
looked down upon so often, and they're the ones that
make the entire economy work. As you say, Larry Fink
says we need five hundred thousand new electricians, He's not

(38:05):
saying that we need five hundred thousand new sociologists. That's
not the contention, right right, So so hold that thought.
I could see you want to chime in there, because
let's talk about that. Because there is like this, there
is this beacon being sent out by corporate America. Hey,
we need five hundred thousand electricians. We need two hundred
and fifty thousand pipe fitters, we need you know, carpenters,

(38:26):
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Speaker 4 (39:45):
Welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 12 (39:46):
Email us is always freedom at Charliekirk dot com and
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(40:06):
quality job. Look what I love about Micro. We'll welcome
Micro back in about a minute here. What I love
is that he's very real. He's real that this is tough,
gritty work, and it showed Dirty Jobs was just one
of my favorite jobs shows growing up.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
And it's very real.

Speaker 12 (40:21):
But you know what, and i'd love to I'm gonna
ask Micro about this because I know you wanted to
chime in on this if we have time, which is
I know that a lot of people that work in
these trades.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
They're very fulfilled.

Speaker 12 (40:30):
It's tough work, it is physically exhausting, but they can
see their work come to a place of completion, and
they're the backbone of this great country. And isn't it
ironic that the people who kind of snobbily went around
saying learn to code while they were getting their communications
and sociology degrees, they're the ones that are going to

(40:53):
be now looking for jobs and the ones that they
look down upon.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
The smelly carpenter. It's going to be making more money
than other, more money than ever.

Speaker 12 (41:01):
Stay right there, Welcome back for by email us is
always freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Micro's with us. Mike, Sorry,
I cut you off because of the break. You wanted
to chime in about we don't need more sociology degrees.

Speaker 18 (41:23):
Well, I want to agree with you, but make one
other point vis a v Macro and micro on a
macro works level.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
You're one hundred percent right.

Speaker 18 (41:32):
The country is not reeling or freaking out over a
lack of sociologists or philosophers. But the individual message is
and always will be a bit more nuanced. And you
just reminded me of that line from Marco Rubio when
he was running for office back in twenty fifteen. I
guess it was, and he said, our country needs more

(41:53):
welders and fewer philosophers. And of course he's right, but
he's not correct. What we need, I believe, on an
individual level, are more welders who can talk intelligently about
Nietzsche and Descartes.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Right.

Speaker 14 (42:09):
I mean, you didn't go to college, but you're but.

Speaker 18 (42:12):
You're educated, Charlie, and you're curious, and you've got a
better liberal arts background than really most liberal arts students
that that I've ever met. But it's equally true as
well that we'd be better off as a people with
more philosophers who could run an even bed and have
a conversation right about the muscular trades. So I don't

(42:36):
want to be the guy who paints with too broad
a brush, but I certainly agree with you when you talk.
When when you hear from a billionaire like Larry Fink
freaking out over five hundred thousand empty slots and electricians,
you start to get it.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
And if you're me, not a week.

Speaker 18 (42:54):
Goes by where I don't hear from the American industrial
base or the maritime base they need one hundred and
forty thousand welders for our submarines, and the automotive industry
who needs eighty thousand people in collision repair and energy,
who's six seven hundred thousand. So yeah, a memo has
gone out. The C suite are paying attention and that's

(43:16):
good news.

Speaker 12 (43:19):
So in closing here, Mike, I know that you're doing
a great job of this. How do the biggest impediment
is the cultural one? How then do we overcome this
kind of cultural gap where so many are still not
I know I asked the question previously, but let me
rephrase it and reiterated it's very important. I'm going to
ask you plainly, how then do we make parents comfortable

(43:42):
with their kids entering into these traits? How do we
make it socially and culturally acceptable? A?

Speaker 18 (43:49):
It will take time. B it's a multi front war.
There are a couple of things that I've seen work. Actually,
I take that back. There's only one thing I've seen
that actually moves the needle, both with parents, guidance counselors,
which are also important, and of course the kids themselves,
which is the most important cohort, and that is honest,

(44:11):
authentic conversations with people who look like them and talk
like them, and who have mastered a skill that's in demand,
and who are prospering as a result. At Microworks, I
spend most of my time now trying to find people
that we assisted five six years ago and then zoom

(44:34):
with them just like we're doing right now, or meet
with them in person and get their stories. What I
said to the crowd in Pittsburgh was, look, guys, you
just committed ninety two billion dollars with a B I
was in the room. I see what you're doing. For
the love of God, carve off a fraction of a

(44:55):
percentage of that and allocate it to tell the stories
of the people in the industries you hope to reinvigorate.
I will help you if I can. You know we're
modest by foundation levels, but I'll give away five million
dollars next month in work ethics scholarships. Give me some
money so I can tell those stories from sea to

(45:18):
shining sea, and the needle will move. So that's the
short answer. The evidence demands a verdict. That's a terrific
book you would love. Josh McDowell wrote it years ago,
but it applies now. The evidence is on our side.
The proof is in the pudding. We simply have to
tell it and then parents will get it. But it

(45:40):
will take time. I wish I could flip a switch.
I can't.

Speaker 12 (45:45):
Microworks dot org, Mike, come back anytime. You are doing
phenomenal work. And I think I'll get over seeing you
in a suit. I think I'll get over it. But
we'll see what happens. I don't know, man, It's seared
into my retina.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I don't even know how to. You wouldn't believe.

Speaker 18 (45:59):
I've got two one hundred emails from people who think
I've I don't know, gone over to the dark side
or something.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Don't worry. He's not working pro private equity, everybody. Don't worry. Mike,
thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
You're welcome.

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Welcome back today for hour two everybody. I have another
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Speaker 10 (52:38):
How you doing.

Speaker 12 (52:40):
I'm doing great, And you know, there's been a lot
of stuff in the news but the most important stuff
has actually not been talked about this week, which is
that there is a slow motion insurrection happening on our cities.
And again there's so much stuff happening. We have the
flooding in Texas, which is terrible. Tom, bring us up
to speed. What happened in California. There was a marijuana

(53:04):
farm that was raided. Miners were working at it. And
is it correct that an illegal alien discharged a weapon
at ice officers?

Speaker 10 (53:13):
All true? So we're serving criminal search warrants. I mean,
it wasn't you know, it wasn't your normal like what
the media want to call immigration raid. We're serving criminal
warrants a part of a criminal investigation, and too, you know,
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(53:35):
there enforced and laws of this country, and the protesters
showed up in force, assaulting officers. And you know, if
you went and actually asked any of the protesters, what
are your protests and dignant tell you they don't know
what the hell they're doing. They just a hatred on ice,
hatred on ice that is perpetuated by members of Congress.
So remember, Congress can call them racists. They can call

(53:56):
them the castopo. Then you know these nuts in a pub,
it just emboldens them brought there and take on ice,
which is they'll lose.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yes, they will.

Speaker 12 (54:06):
And so this specific incident, a guy started shooting at
ice officers. Have we found out who that person is
with uh.

Speaker 10 (54:14):
FBI is investigating. I know a little bit, but I
really can't talk about it right now, but they're deep
in it.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
So what did we learn about this specific marijuana facility
that was so egregious? They were using child slave labor
or something akin.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
To it.

Speaker 10 (54:30):
On a company alien children that crossed under Joe Biden,
some of the ones that he released and he lost.
Uh So they're they're they're working and h this.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Is and so this is important. So I interrupt you.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Tom.

Speaker 12 (54:42):
This is what the media calls a farm. So you
know how there's been a lot of controversy around farms
the last couple of weeks. Right, So at this farm,
we're illegal aliens that were how old?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Tom? Twelve?

Speaker 10 (54:54):
Yeah, they're young, young teenagers.

Speaker 12 (54:56):
So no, this is not what you think it is
working on farms. These are illegal twelve year olds that
come and they're they're producing marijuana, right, illegally.

Speaker 10 (55:06):
And we're continue investigation on the interviews. Were they even
being paid or were they paying all smuggling fees? How
many hours were they working. Look, I've just said this
forever and I truly believe this. I've been doing this
since nineteen eighty four. No one hires an illegal alien
on the goodness or hire. They hire them, claim, work
them harder, paym less, and undercut their competition, where as
you have citizen employees and drive laborates down so deep

(55:29):
a deep dive investigation interviews to being these kids will
have to do a forensics interview, and we'll uncover the
trafficking issue and try to find those responsible for smuggling
these kids in trafficking them, and then we'll prosecute.

Speaker 12 (55:44):
And so more broadly, on the deportation project, you recently said,
I don't want to misquote you, Tom, and you're doing
an amazing job.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Isn't Tom just doing incredible?

Speaker 13 (55:52):
I'm just.

Speaker 12 (55:55):
You recently said the goal is to get to seven
thousand and deportations a day.

Speaker 22 (56:02):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (56:03):
My quarter?

Speaker 10 (56:03):
I said was the media is media is out there great,
you know, losing their minds because there's the goal set
of three thousand a day, and as is that even possible?
Isn't that racist? I said, I says three thousand day
is nothing, because if you do the math, we would
have to rest seven thousand a day for the rest
of the administration just to remove those that Biden release

(56:24):
in the country. You're not talking about the fifteen million
plus already here. So three thousand days it's a drop
in a bucket. And with the big beautiful bill now pass,
just watch and see what happens.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
And so.

Speaker 12 (56:40):
Seven thousand a day would be like two and a
half million people a year. Can you talk about the
self deportations as well, because if history shows for every
one person that we deport, there could be upwards of
ten people that self deport Is that is that about right?

Speaker 10 (57:00):
He's been done showing over close to one million have
already left the country on their own or through the
or through the app And I think a big part
of that is big part of that is what we're
doing right now. We got over a thousand rest teams
on the streets of this nation and rest in illegal
islands every day. Of course, prioritizing the public states to
trust natty security threats first, but they see. Now you

(57:23):
can wait and let us find you and deport you,
or you can leave, get your affairs in order, and
leave on your own and make yourself available for other
opportunities in future if they come up. But I think
consequences matter. Bad behavior doesn't change unless there's consequences, and
we're shaming consequences.

Speaker 12 (57:39):
So I'll tell you a quick anecdote. So a local
church that Eric and I go to, it's a Catholic church.
I'm not Catholic, she was raised Catholic, but we just
like going there in great community and fellowship to go
and pray, and it's great and it's beautiful. I love
beautiful churches. I like beautiful things. I don't like going
to church in Costco. Sorry I don't. So I don't
like going to home depot of worship. Call me old fashioned.

(57:59):
So they're doing this major marble project at this church,
major right, and so the priest, why I know, we
were walking in one weekday just to go pray and
the marble project was half finished. And I said, oh, hey,
what's you know going on here? He said, I got
to tell you a story. He said, So the original
contractor started this effort, and he had to stop the
beginning because all of his labor self deported, and so

(58:23):
then he was super worried that he wasn't gonna able
to fulfill the project. He found americans within forty eight
hours that did a better job for only two to
three dollars more an hour, and it's all legal, and
it's all American, and the job will be finished at
the exact same time. Everybody, don't believe the lie. We
can get this I and that right there is a

(58:45):
glaring first person example because we're a subtle who's going
to be the Stonemasons? And no one's gonna want to
work on the roofs and no one's gonna we have
grown addicted to illegal migrant labor in this country, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
What I mean.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
I got a similar story. So a few years ago,
I had a put a new roof in my house
because of a storm. I had to call five or
six different companies before I found a company that guaranteed
me in legal workforce. But while I was getting the bids,
a father and son showed up and they're hoping that
I didn't need to hold roof replacement. They're hoping just repair,
but that once they saw it s an HOI, we
can't do this, and he told me a story. He

(59:19):
had a successful roofing companies, had over twenty US citizen's
employees that he put on a rough at twenty bucks
an hour, and he lost the business because he couldn't
win any contracts to other companies putting illegal aliens on
the rough for seven bucks an hour. He just couldn't
win a contract. So now him and his son just
go out and do roough repairs. He laid off twenty
US citizen employees. That happens every day across as.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Free Day, and this idea like.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Look.

Speaker 12 (59:44):
I will acknowledge that some of the youth of America
there are some of these jobs that they don't want
to do. But I reject the premise in a country
of three hundred and thirty million people, that we have
maxed out the labor potential of this country. I'm sorry,
I just don't buy it. Okay, you do not. And
what I will buy though, is that, yes, if you
don't raise wages, then there will be a problem. But

(01:00:05):
we're not talking about going from twenty dollars an hour
to eighty five dollars an hour. We're talking about minor
adjustments on the wage scale, which, by the way, I
would personally as an employer, while we only hire legal
Americans at Turning Point USA. The fact I have to
say that is ridiculous. We use everify. But as a citizen,

(01:00:25):
I want to make sure the workforce is not just legal,
but I feel an obligation to fulfill the mandate and
my fellow countrymen, because Tom, you're getting at something. Is
it correct that the thrust of hiring illegal labor is
that they actually don't want to pay Americans what they
just a normal wage.

Speaker 10 (01:00:45):
Absolutely, like I said, they overwork them, underpay them. And
I agree with you there. We have plenty of workforce here.
If they get out their mother's basement, stop protesting nice
and go get a job, they can actually.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Add to our account well and even beyond that.

Speaker 12 (01:01:03):
You know, if you again, I hate racial politics, I
really do, but we have BLEXIT and Black America has
been treated terribly by the Democrat Party, awful. You want
to know who's been treated the worst by mass migration
is Black America. And how many Black Americans who used
to do a lot of these jobs happily carpentry, woodworking

(01:01:24):
and all of a sudden you bring in a steady
flow of illegal labor and the you know people say, well,
you know, they just work harder.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
I guess too, I could.

Speaker 12 (01:01:33):
I could sympathize for a set like I'm sure that
at the extremes that's true, right would you agree, Tom?
At the extremes, But at the median I'm sorry, Like,
I don't buy that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
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Speaker 10 (01:04:36):
I remember when I was there's another example when I
was ice trecked just a few years back. But we
actually did a work site enforcement operation on a plant
in Chicago that made sausage. Oh, we rest a lot
of illego islands there within two weeks or back open
replaced by black labor gave that job. So if that's
just one example, so you're exactly right, a lot of

(01:04:58):
them been displaced because of illugover and and cheap labor.

Speaker 12 (01:05:02):
So so Tom, let me let me ask you then,
So the we saw this in Nebraska where there was
a meat packing facility rated it. All the illegals were arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Line out the door for Americans to get the job.

Speaker 12 (01:05:16):
The next day. Why don't we hold the employers accountable?

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Why don't we have.

Speaker 12 (01:05:24):
I I why don't we start arresting business owners that
are knowingly arresting illegal aliens.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Aren't they breaking the law?

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
They are, and just federal law. In just a couple
of weeks ago, I gave a direction to Ice UH
that I want to see many, many, many more criminal
prosecutions at work sites.

Speaker 12 (01:05:50):
Of the of the people that know they are processing
fraudulent social security numbers.

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
We're going to prosecute. And not on an employer, but
if use a false social Security card, false green card,
you're going to get prosecuted to zero tolerance.

Speaker 12 (01:06:03):
I love it, and look and I think we should
acknowledge this. Not in every sector. Are we going to
be able to refill the workforce overnight. It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
There will be hiccups, there will be bumps.

Speaker 12 (01:06:15):
But I think it's worth it as a national project
because eventually we will solve it. And understand this that
in agriculture, everyone talks about farms, farms, farms. Okay, do
you know that our reliance on migrant labor has largely
actually held back the farms from automating investing in robotics
and actually becoming more efficient. Because they don't want to

(01:06:37):
spend their money on that, they could just keep on
hiring illegal, illegal migrant labor. It's actually held us back significantly.
But we're told Tom that all the crops are going
to rot in the field if we do mass deportations.

Speaker 10 (01:06:48):
Look, I know that the President made some comments about farmers.
I know Department of Labor DHS and Department of Agriculture
are all getting together talking about possible options. But I'm
going to I'm not gonna get it the President on this,
but I can tell you this, there will be no amnesty. Huh.

(01:07:12):
Can't happen when you reward in legal behavior. It's not
going to stop. We got, we got, we got, we're
national laws. We need, we need finally say enough, we're done. Yes,
I can understand the policy discussions. I'll get involved that
this week. But there I talked to the President and
he said there will be no amnesty.

Speaker 12 (01:07:33):
He said the same thing to me on a phone
call a couple of days ago. No amnesty period, and
he's been clear on that. But I want you in
those policy discussions to come back with a message from
Tampa because if they even play foot seat with amnesty,
this coalition will be more angry than anything that's happened
over the last decade. We we this is the core
campaign promise. We finally got the one big, beautiful bill

(01:07:55):
we find and we're all of a sudden we're now
flirting with jeopardizing our coalition. So I want you to
just bring that memo back to the policy discussion. They
have not seen the magabase so animated. I mean, we
are not even at yet removing all the Biden people.
And let me just let's play this out. Tom, and
the great Stephen Miller and I had a great conversation
about this. So let's say somebody says, well, if you've

(01:08:16):
been here for fifteen years, you can stay and you
get legal residency.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Sound sounds common sense.

Speaker 12 (01:08:22):
Okay, fine, sure, but let's talk at this in practice
before we can get to the policy. Tom, do we
have any record of when any illegalists come across the border.
So therefore, if you say, if you've been here for
fifteen years you can stay, wouldn't every illegal just say
the magic words hocus pocus, I've been here for fifteen years.
And even if you could prove it, otherwise in court.

Speaker 10 (01:08:43):
That happened in nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
I was there only talk about that well under a.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
Night during ERKA in nineteen eighty six, or what they
call a special assault program, specially agriculture worker program. I
was especially that time, and I conducted criminal investigations. I
can tell you over eighty five percent of this applications,
we're Graudumly, he just went to a farmer, gave him
AE hundred bucks. He gave your letters, say yeah, he
worked for me for ninety days from this day and
that day. There's no checking balances on that. So it's

(01:09:07):
just right for fraud. And that was the failure of
the nineteen eighty six semits. See, and that will happen again.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
And on top of even the fraud guys, what it
would do then is it would it would suspend all
deportations in real time because all they'd have to do
is say the magic words and you'd have to adjudicate it,
and it would backlog the courts and you wouldn't be
able to have hands on any illegal alien.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Just as a practical matter.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
But we gotta go beyond the time in the country.
What they're going to claim, what time they have in
the country, but we already got it. We also got
to talk to false narrative being pushed by the media
that were deporting US citizens. We're not deporting US citizens.
I said this from day one. If you're in the
country I legally, and you choose have a child, that's
on you and when you get an order deportation is

(01:09:52):
parenting one oh one, Either you take the child with
you or leaving with a relative of the other spouse.
Having a US citizen child in this country doesn't make
you immune from our loss because if that's the message
we send a whole world totally, you're never going to
fix this problem.

Speaker 16 (01:10:04):
Yes, welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

Speaker 13 (01:10:18):
I'm Terrence Bates.

Speaker 16 (01:10:19):
We're monitoring a developing situation out of Los Angeles where
at least three people are dead one heard following an
explosion at Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department training center. The
blast happened around seven point thirty this morning. US Attorney
General Pam Bondi confirming the death, saying that federal authorities
responded to the scene and are currently investigating what happened.

(01:10:41):
The La City Fire Department, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
firearms and explosive agents, along with the LAPD bomb squad
are all at the scene at this hour. While investigators
are still trying to get to the bottom of what happened.
The La Times is reporting that a bomb squad was
moving an explosive ordinance at the facility when the blast happened.

(01:11:02):
Employees describe hearing a massive explosion followed by glass shattering
and screaming. All of this went down in a parking
lot with the Sheriff's bomb.

Speaker 13 (01:11:11):
Squad keeps its vehicles.

Speaker 16 (01:11:13):
The Trump administration is continuing it to crack down on
illegal immigration. Just before walking into the White House earlier today,
borders our Tom Holman laying out the plan.

Speaker 10 (01:11:23):
We're going to focus on sanctuary cities, make them priority.
And why is that? Because we know their problem. We
know they're releasing public safety threats every day because there's
aanxious city. They're not honor detainers. We don't have that
problem most of Texas and Florida, for instance, So we
can take resource from now areas and put them in
an area we're gon know there's a problem. So I
said for weeks, we're going to flood the zone and

(01:11:43):
sanctuarous cities. You're going to see a record number of
agents in the neighborhoods and a record number of agents
at work site. If they don't give us a criminal amien,
a safety and security of count of jail, then we're
gonna go in neighborhood and find them trip, We'll go
and do the job. We can't find the neighborhood, we'll
find in the work site.

Speaker 16 (01:11:59):
Homan also said as he, alongside other immigration officials, is
working to find more beds to house illegals who are
in the deportation process. In fact, Holman says that is
a priority right now. He also says that given that
it can take months from the time of an arrest
to deportation, more beds are needed to keep up with
the demand the borders are also points out that there

(01:12:22):
will be no amnesty for those in the country illegally.
And finally, the White House says President Trump is in
good health and good spirits after being diagnosed with chronic
venus insufficiency. The condition, by the way, is said to
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Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And by the way, so like.

Speaker 10 (01:14:03):
I said, well, can you can you do a mass
deportation without separating families? We to pour them together. Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:14:11):
And by the way, the kid, technically I get why
we need to get rid of birthright citizenship.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
It's a terrible, it's awful. I'm not optimistic.

Speaker 12 (01:14:19):
The Supreme Court is probably gonna wiss out on that,
but I hope we get a victory there. But I
guess the kid's still a US citizen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
But you're right, the whole.

Speaker 12 (01:14:27):
Mass migration project post nineteen eighty six. So for those
that don't know Reagan, worst thing Reagan did, by the way,
by far. He was a good president in a lot
of ways he was. This was his biggest mistake by far.
Would you agree, Tom?

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
This was yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:14:42):
Yeah, And so he comes out since Miszoli, we're gonna
give amnesty a pathway to citizenship for anyone that worked
on a farm all the way up to nineteen eighty five,
and then we're gonna have all this border enforcement stuff.
None of the board enforcement stuff actually materialized, but all
the AMIAT.

Speaker 10 (01:14:55):
None of the work site materialized.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
None of the worksite.

Speaker 12 (01:14:57):
So all these promises are how tough we were gonna be.
None of it happened, but all the amnesty happened. But
here's the kicker. And Tommy, you're a government official, so
you know, I don't know if you can comment on this,
but I can, which is that we were promised that
all Hispanics would vote for Republican if we gave them amnesty.
And I want you to understand this because I hear
this from sometimes the ruling class. What happened is actually

(01:15:19):
Hispanics got more Democrat every single year until Donald Trump came,
and he actually won back Hispanics by promising mass deportations.
So if you want to win over Hispanics, you actually
talk about lawful deportation because the legal Hispanics are sick
of people that have cut in line, stolen social security numbers,
lied to the system.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Am I correct on that time?

Speaker 10 (01:15:42):
When I was there, I was an agent at the time.

Speaker 13 (01:15:44):
I'm old.

Speaker 10 (01:15:45):
I started this nineteen four as far I was alive,
but I was an agent during that time. I remember
I get picked off a lot, but I remember being
sought back then there's so much fraud going on, and
cis W was taken was equal to see us at
the time that were taking the advocate ice officer at
the time and specializing weren't even allowed to enter the

(01:16:05):
building to grab the progant applications to take action on them.
They've totally separated the benefits from investigations. So even though
there's ninety percent fraud, we weren't allowed access to the
government records. That's how bad ERK was run.

Speaker 12 (01:16:19):
And so that we fast forward and we had open border,
open border. Trump is the first one to not just
say let's close the border. By the way, Tom Holman
deserves such credit. The border we're not even talking about anymore.
How many people cross the southern border into the interior
United States.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
In May zero released everybody that crossed was sent right
back zero. And I'll tell you a better number. The
number that the number that excited to me the most.
Under Biden administration, they averaged eighteen hundred gutaways every day.
No one got every day every day because we had digital,
we have video, drone traffic, central traffic eighteen hundred day

(01:16:55):
on average, you know what I mean. There was yesterday
eleven eleven too many. We'll close that down. But we
went from eighteen hundred to eleven. And the crossings were
ninety nine to two thousand. Miles of the board had
ninety nine cross And how many got released zero? How
many got released last month? Zero? How many months before it? Zero?

(01:17:16):
We end to catch release.

Speaker 12 (01:17:19):
And Tom, you haven't spoken yet on stage right, Okay,
when you do, I hope you emphasize it because a
lot of people are you know, they're confused and they're
fighting about stuff, and that's fine, it's healthy. But I
hope everyone understands the securing of the southern border. If
that's all President Trump does and he golfs for the
next four years, that alone makes this all worth it. No, seriously,

(01:17:40):
that at least buys us some time to have a
nation again and to have a republic and having the.

Speaker 10 (01:17:45):
Most secure right today, you have the most secure border
in the history of this nation today. And what has
that done? Fat and all seizars are dropped in half.
Sex trafficking, women and children are decimated. A number of
Americans dying from fatinaw has drop significantly.

Speaker 13 (01:18:01):
Sect.

Speaker 10 (01:18:03):
Sex trafficking has decreased to the level we've never seen before.
I mean, President Trump, are having a secure border saves
lives every day.

Speaker 12 (01:18:13):
So so this is now the key, and this is
why Tom is so important.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
He's a hero.

Speaker 12 (01:18:20):
It would be very tempting and easy for us to
avoid the big cities. I know it's where all the drawing. No,
I know, but I want to I want.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
To build you up for it.

Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
That ain't happening.

Speaker 12 (01:18:30):
The cities is where you reclaim the country. That's actually
where you exert dominion. Because what they're doing is they're
trying to be like, Okay, you can do your raids
in the rules.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Tom. Are we going to avoid La Are we gonna
avoid Denver?

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
No, We're gonna triple down, and we're gonna triple down
on them. And I've said this, you know, right after
we got in an office, the mayor of Chicago said
that I wasn't welcome to Chicago. Guess where it was
the next day, Chicago, and I'm going to Poland. But

(01:19:03):
President Trump, we talked about this. President Trump said it
the other day. Sanctuary cities. We're gonna prioritize sanctuary cities.
We're gonna say massive amount of age and sanctuary cities
because we know we have a problem. We know there
are really some public safety threats back in the community
every day, Like we don't have that problem in Florida.
Every sheriff from Florida's working with us contains to the
Great Government of Santus. You know, so well, take resourcement

(01:19:24):
on in Florida. We'll throw them in New York, We'll
throw them in LA, We'll throw them in Portland, We'll
throw them in Chicago, We'll throw them in Seattle. Every
sanctuary city that wants to double down on ICE, we're
gonna triple down. We're going to flood the zone, flood
thoseone the neighborhoods, flood those on that work site. We're
going to win this war because what we're doing is
make this country safe. Every day, every criminal, illegal alien,

(01:19:45):
or public safety threat that we deport makes this country safe.
And that's what we're gonna continue doing. We're gonna keep
President Trump's promise to the American people. We're gonna make
this country safe again. We're going to force immigration law
without apology. And I don't give it. I did it
one for you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
You're fine, We're not live. You're fine.

Speaker 10 (01:20:08):
And look I just say this, I take a lot Hey,
I take a lot. I hit pieces on me every day,
and I love them because because I get tired and
when I read a hip piece, you'll show gas my fire.
So I don't give what people think about me. We're
gonna do this job. So the doxing of ice stations

(01:20:30):
is terrible, the assault on ISAs are terrible. The tax
that me and my family, yeah, unfortunate. But guess what,
we're not leaving. We're gonna keep doing this job. We're
going nowhere. So we're gonna finish the job we started,
and we're gonna finish it to the last data this
administration and hopefully on the next president, Republican president, we'll
have eight more years of doing it. We're gonna clean

(01:20:50):
the nation up.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Amen, So.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:58):
What does the big beautiful bill mean for you and
for your effort? What has now it's passed, it's a
big beautiful law. What do now you have at your
command to be able to reclaim the country.

Speaker 10 (01:21:10):
Well, it does a lot of things. First of all,
for the southern border, we're going to finish the wall,
and not only finish the wall, we're going to finish
the technology in the existing wall that Joe Biden stopped.
He just he didn't just stop building the wall, he
stopped putting the technology in the wall that made the
smart wall, so agents can talk to one another in
dead zones that we know when someone approaches the wall,
climbs the wall, or tries to dig underwall. It's also

(01:21:33):
going to add technology to the port of entries so
we can still move legal trade through the port of
entries as quick as possible, will still catch maxim mount
a contraband on the interior. Ten thousand new ICE agents.
Never heard of that before. That's the biggest plus up
at NICE we've seen in history of the agency. Ten thousand.
Right now, we got five thousand deportation officers over twenty

(01:21:54):
million illegal amas in this country. That's a huge plus up.
More boots on the ground. It's going to give us
more detention bedroom. We gonna go to fifty thousand beds
to one hundred thousand beds, so I have plenty of
room to people put people there. We're going to increase
the teams as soon as we can. Academy is already
starting to roll out. We're gonna move a lot of
agency that Academy, more boots underground, more transportation contracts, more beds,

(01:22:16):
more contractors do jobs that don't require am badging gun.
It shouldn't take a badging gun when someone comes into
report or to do arrest reports or processing. Let contracts
to do that and get that badging gun on the
street where we need them. We're gonna keep focus on
public safety threats and national security threats. If you think
the numbers look good, now, just hold on tight.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
So I think it's also worth mentioning.

Speaker 12 (01:22:42):
Recently there was this an MS thirteen leader arrested in Nebraska,
and I don't even think we knew who he was
or how he got I mean, and all of a sudden,
here he is this guy that El Salvador has been
looking Do you do you know the case I'm talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:22:54):
That shows a great they're great vetting that bid. The
administration claimed they didn't look. Millions of the illegal aliens
were releasing this country without proper vetting, and a second
term of my orcans will standing on stage say all
they're property vet they're all properly vetted. There's a bunch
of garbage because we don't have access to most countries
criminal data. If they even have a system that can

(01:23:16):
see I see with the Chinese and the Russians and
people from Syria. Do you really think those governments are
sharing any data with us, especially national security data. These
people weren't properly vetted, and that's why we're working so
hard to find them, because they do post the biggest
national security vulnerability I've seen in my lifetime. What Joe
Biden did this country is the biggest national security vulnerability

(01:23:38):
I've ever seen. We under Joe Bien, over four hundred
people on Terrace wash Leush were arrested coming across the
southern border under Trump forty five fourteen fourteen compared to
four hundred. But what scares me most of the two
man plus guidaways, why did two million people pay more
to get away? Because you pay the cartel one amount
of money to just get to the border, turn yourself

(01:23:59):
into green ears form, get a free airline ticket to
the city of your choice, get a free hotel room,
three meals a day, and work alter stations. So why
did two million people pay more not to get that
free giveaway program? Because they didn't want to be arrested,
they didn't want to be fingerprinted, they didn't want to
be vetted. That's just scared the hell out of everybody.
Scared the hell out of me. Who were they? Why
do they pay more to get away?

Speaker 12 (01:24:20):
How do we fix the asylum scan because because the
asylum system is so gamed.

Speaker 10 (01:24:25):
That's easy. They just in the first interview on the border,
the threshold so low. The cartels teach you a couple
of key phrases. Okay, you pass the first interview to
come in, but when you get the immigration court, the
threshold a proof is much much higher. So we're saying, hey, easy,
fix the first interview threshold to equal judicial threshold and
hold that. Then look told that don't For those that

(01:24:47):
don't know, they keep calling these people their asylum seeker.
They have a right to claim a sign and they
got a right to see a judgement. Yeah, okay, well
here's the facts. Based on Immigration Court dad or last decade,
nine out of ten people claim asylum at the b
to end up with the order removal. There are asylums.
There are assylum cheaters because they're not escaping fear and
persecution from the Home government because of race, religion, and

(01:25:09):
political affiliation or membership in acific specific social group. They're
coming in for a better life, and I get that,
but it's not asylum. So when they keep yelling and
screaming about assignum seekers, understand ninety percent are assimum cheaters.
And while they're cheating the system and backing the system
up by five, seven, nine years, there are actually thousands
of people in this world that really do need our

(01:25:30):
protection from the countries and they're sitting in the backseat.
So silum system needs it needs to be fixed. It
needs to be addressed asap, because even though we're doing
all the positive things right now, this can all be
undone by Democratic president like Joe Biden did to the
most secure boarder in my lifetime. So we got to
get Congress get off their and pass some legislation to

(01:25:51):
fix the system.

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Speaker 12 (01:26:57):
Just I know I gotta get you on stage here, Tom,
but walk us through. There's been so much social media
misinformation saying ICE is the modern Gestapo. They're going after
US citizens. What, what is the process of enforcement and
what should people know that the media is largely missing.

Speaker 10 (01:27:15):
The vast majority of people who arrested are criminals, public
safety threats, and national security threats. Now the media says
whether percentage of lower and unclaiming, well, they don't count.
They don't count misdemeanors as crimes. They don't count taking
a guy of accounty jail penning charges as a criminal.
We do. If you're in a county jail, you're probably
not a choir boy. So we count criminals as criminals.

(01:27:36):
But the vast majority people arrest are criminal aliens, not
just the stone cold fat And what people need to
understand why is there not why is so many collaterals
non criminals. We'll tell you why. And I said this
from day one. If you're a sanctuary city and you're going
to release that criminal back into the community, we're gonna
go find him. And when we find him, we find
others aren't criminal targets, but they're in the country illegally.

(01:27:58):
They're coming to because we're going to force immigration law.
So sanctuary cities get exactly what they don't want, more
collateral arrest, more agents in the street, and more work
side enforcement here they don't want. They if they want
to push back against ice. This is what's happening.

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Speaker 10 (01:30:31):
So, yeah, non criminals arrest. But last I remember the
anentry United States are League. It's a crime, and we're
going to force that eight USC thirteen twelve exactly. And
I said this from day when we prioritize public safety
threads and national security threads. But if you're in the
country legally, you're not off the table.

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
All right, I want to open it up for some questions.
We love doing this, but guys, I just want to
say ask a question for Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Don't give us speech, don't.

Speaker 12 (01:30:56):
Tell us that your you know neighbors getting deported or
something and you're worried about it. Sorry, he's not gonna help. Okay,
So now I get those questions all the time. Charlie,
my friend's getting deported. Okay, fine, Sorry, I can't help you.
So ask ask a technical question of Tom. Please, and
I reserve the right to cut you off because Tom's
time is very valuable. Okay, so just keep it focused

(01:31:17):
on the stuff we talked about, Yes, sir, sure.

Speaker 24 (01:31:19):
As one former New Yorker to another, could you give
us a little preview?

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Well, let's let's turn up the mike.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:31:25):
Sorry, As one former New Yorker to another, could you
give us a little preview of what will happen under
a potentially soon to be mayor?

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Mom, Dottie, did you hear that?

Speaker 10 (01:31:36):
Yeah? I gotta watch what I say because the hatcheck.
I am a gun employee.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Let me That's why I was trying to protect you
from yourself.

Speaker 10 (01:31:44):
H I've been I've been in trouble a few times
over this. Despite what he says, he's not gonna stop
me from doing my job. I'll leave it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
That's well, I'd said everything. Yes, sir, thank you for
what you're doing.

Speaker 25 (01:32:05):
First of all, my question is do you think that
if the United States invests in bringing jobs to Latin
America and supporting freedom movements in all the socialist countries
in Latin America, the immigration issue would subdue itself.

Speaker 10 (01:32:19):
I missed, I'm sorry.

Speaker 12 (01:32:21):
So I think you were saying, should we invest in
Latin and South America for economic freedom movements and such?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Is that right? Correct?

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
Yeah, well let me tell you what I do know.
We've done that under every administration. Hasn't work because a
man of these countries are corrupt. The money doesn't get
work blown.

Speaker 12 (01:32:34):
It does not work. Yep, thank you, it does not work. Yes,
it's all good.

Speaker 26 (01:32:50):
So one of the ways you've shut down, well basically
shut down all the illegal immigrants from cross the country
is by building up your social media by you it
as deterrence. Is that correct? So could you tell me
how and what are you planning to do to keep
on doing that?

Speaker 10 (01:33:10):
Well? I'm I'm an old guy. I'm still learning social
media and social media is it makes a lot of
people brave because they attack you and they hiding their parents' basement.
They can say anything you want. But I actually have
staff that I'm just starting to do social media. I
do have an X account, but and I find that

(01:33:31):
a lot of people like Facebook. I had a Facebook
account and I got eight people claiming to be me,
So I got some really smart people working on that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Shabat shalom. Everybody, have a wonderful weekend.

Speaker 12 (01:33:42):
Turn off your devices, spend some time with your friends,
spend some time worshiping God, get outside of all of
the news cycle, and get honestly grow closer.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
What matters again, Shabat shalam, God bless. If you want to.

Speaker 12 (01:33:54):
Hear this entire interview, go to members dot Charlie Kirk
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