The Charlie Kirk Show, June 17, 2025

Commentary on America in war, Iran, Lindsey Graham, gas and oil, No Kings protest, paid protestors, and differences of Iran and Iraq

Guests: Sen. Markwayne Mullin, Dr. Paul Rahe, and Nate Friedman

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts. Now, what you're.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Watching in real time is peace through strength and America First,
our job is to be strong. We are postured defensively
in the region to be strong in pursuit of a
peace steal, and we certainly hope that's what happens here
in America. First means we're going to defend American personnel
and American interests.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
What they're doing is they're using Hispanic Americans the way
that Blum used black Americans during these Whites and frankly
the way that Code Pink, which is also funded by
the CCP, is using Palestinians. So what they're trying to
do is they're using this to usher in Marxism. But
it's important to note that actually when you.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Find and you follow the money.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Trail, mister Singham is actually largely funded by the Communist
Chinese Party. So House Oversight has issued and we'll be
sending a letter this Friday with all our members of
Oversight calling ministers seeing him to testify before Congress. If
he does not appear, it does not provide documents who
will then be held in contective Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
What specifically is better than a cease fire.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
What are you looking for here, a real land, not
a cease.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Fire, and then so something that will be promitive, yeah,
or or giving up entirely.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, that's okay too.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Are you closely or are you possible that must elect.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
To leave for a white eyes?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Certainly possible, complete to give up, that's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Our security is already guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
We have more than enough power and more than enough
force to.

Speaker 8 (01:41):
Keep our assets clean and safe everywhere in the Middle East,
in fact, all around the world right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We don't need a war to keep us safe.

Speaker 9 (01:48):
I am demanding full accountability and reimbursement for the local
costs incurred, including injuries to local officers and damage is
caused by the chaos unleashed when the Trump administration recklessly,
recklessly deploy the military and ICE agents into our communities.

(02:14):
They are the ones who created this unrest, and they
are the ones that need to foot the bill.

Speaker 10 (02:21):
Be all in President Trump and helping Israel eliminate the
nuclear threat if we need to provide bombs to Israel,
provide bombs, if we need to fly planes with Israel
to joint operations.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
But here's the bigger question. Wouldn't the world be better.

Speaker 10 (02:35):
Off if the iototals went away and replaced with something better,
wouldn't Iran be better off? It's time to close the
chapter on the Iranian iotot in his chement. Let's close
that chapter soon and start a new chapter in.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
The Mid East, one of tolerance, to hope and peace.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Where you open to negotiating with the Iranians right now
or do you want to wait?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I've been negotiating. I told them to do the deal.
They should have done the deal. The cities have been
blowed to pieces that have lost a lot of people.
They should have done the deal. I told them do
the deal. So I don't know. I'm not too much
in aging to negotiating.

Speaker 11 (03:10):
To be coming out of our country.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, I grew up in a dictatorship and I
don't even remember.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Ever witnessing anything like that.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
To have a democracy, a peakan of hope for the world.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
To now be turned into one of the one of
the worst countries.

Speaker 12 (03:33):
I want them to focus on the cities, because the
cities are where you really have what's called sanctuary cities,
and that's where the people are. Biden allowed twenty one
million people to come into our country. Of that vast
numbers of those people were murderers, killers, people from gangs,
people from jails, the empty their jails out into the US.

(03:54):
Most of those people are in the cities, all blue cities,
all Democrat run cities, and they think they're going to use.

Speaker 13 (04:01):
Them to vote.

Speaker 7 (04:01):
It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4 (05:21):
Here we go on Okay everybody radio stations across the country.
Here at the Bitcoin dot Com studio. There is a
lot happening right now and breaking news. USS mimics headed
to the Middle East ahead of schedule. Will the United
States get involved with that is an open question. But
first we have with us a great man from Oklahoma,

(05:41):
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who is the liaison between the
House and the Senate for the Big Beautiful Bill. We're
also going to ask about Israel and Iran as well. Senator,
great to see you, hey, Jerlie. How you doing, brother,
I'm doing great. First on the Iranian news. What is
your analysis of what is happening, what is going on
Iranian nuclear program? And what is your thoughts on how

(06:02):
Israel's been handling and broker in this war?

Speaker 8 (06:05):
Well, I think I think it's interesting. First of all,
let's take on the President's posture here. I want to
understand what you brought up, nimics repositioning the president's posture
here is the one word we need to take away
is to terrence. The president is trying to prevent an
all out war by deterrence peace through strength, which I
think is very important here as far as Israel, I

(06:26):
think Israel is doing everybody in that entire region.

Speaker 7 (06:31):
I don't care fee Egypt or your your cutter or
your Kuwait.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
Iraq, u a e Saudi Arabia, I don't care who
you are. If you're in that region, you do not
want the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon, because they
they will, They will kick off a nuclear war if
they have it. So Israel's doing them a favor by
taking the fight to them. And and I think they're

(06:57):
doing a great job if and it's systematically too right.
So you think about it that the Iranians have not
really committed troops for quite some time, and the last
time they did was in Iraq and it ended horribly
for them. So they fight proxy wars, and they fight
proxy wars with Hamas Houthi's and Hesbilah.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
And over the last year and.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
A half, I mean literally, Israel has decimated every one
of them, and then they took out their air defense
which Israel now controls the air defense over Iran, showing
that they were just simply loud mouths and not able
to back up anything. People worried about a full scale war.
It would be nearly impossible for the Iranian regime to

(07:41):
actually be able to put troops into Israel. Now they
can fight a cod war, which they are. They're shooting
missiles the which they are. I believe that you're going
to see a lot more of terroristyle activity happening in Israel,
God forbid. But what President Trump or President Trump has
done here is he's bysidising assets by warning Iran because

(08:03):
there has been some credible information that they would like
to hit the United States because they feel like that
we are supporting Israel, which we are, but at the
same time, they don't want to draw us into the fight.
And what we're doing is we're positioning ourselves so they
don't draw us in a fight. Uh And and so
I think Trump is handling this. President Trump has handling

(08:25):
this very well. And Israeli's are are doing the Lord's
work here by literally kicking the snake's head into the.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Dirt, and so what do you have to say for
some people, and I share some of this concern that
we do not want regime change. Is there something short
of regime change of getting rid of the nuclear program
and not potentially destabilizing the country that could result in
a civil war. I'm basically asking, in your estimation, Senator,
what do you think victory looks like.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
We are absolutely not talking about regime change. The President
hasn't talked about it. We are not This is not
here Erry Clinton, a secretary of State having the air spring.
That is not what we're trying to do here. President
Trump has made it extremely clear that he would love
to have diplomatic relationships. He've even talked about trade with Iran. However,

(09:15):
they will never be able to have a nuclear weapon.
So what victory looks like is their inability to ever
have a nuclear weapon, or inability that we never want
them to have a nuclear weapon. So when we can
knock out their infrastructure and prevent that from ever happening,
that is victory. And this is what prevents a forever war.

(09:35):
By the way, when you don't know what victory looks like,
if you can't define victory, that's how you have a
forever war. So I'd go back and use the argument
in Afghanistan, after we took out Osama bin Lauden, we
should have left. We shouldn't have dragged that on. And
I think a lot of guys that fought there would
would would feel the same. And and and if you

(09:58):
and so, if you can define thectory before it starts,
which that's what President Trump has said, we will never
allow you to have a nuclear weapon ever, full stop.
We knock out their infrastructure, We're done. As far as
regime change, that's not on us. That's on the people
of Iran to figure out what they want to do themselves.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
That's not our that's not our our fault, our fight,
or our problem.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, and look, jd. Vance made a really important point.
President Trump has been remarkably consistent about Iran not having
a nuclear weapon. Ten years ago, yesterday, Senator Mullen, President Trump,
businessman Trump came down the escalator and a little buried
nugget in his speech was I will stop Iran from

(10:45):
getting nuclear weapons. This was ten years ago. He talked
about the border, he talked about an invasion, he talked
about trade, he talked about how we don't win anymore.
Let's play cut three h three. The consistency ten years later,
it's really something. Play cut three zero three.

Speaker 16 (11:03):
I will stop around from getting nuclear weapons, and we
won't be using a man like Secretary carry that has
absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and
laughable deal, who's just being tapped along as they make weapons?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Right now, Senator, that was ten years ago. This is
a through line of the MAGA movement.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Thoughts, Well, that's what I think you said it right, Charlie.
President Trump has been very consistent. He has made it
very clear we will not allow you to have a
new Grippin full stop. And that's what this fight is
all about. Unfortunately, Biden administration did not keep the Trump
administration policies in place on anything, which is why you
had disasters would draw up out Afghanistan. We had disastrous

(11:50):
warm policies all over the country. That's why the Ukraine
War started. That's why you know we had de stabilization
around the world and aggressive China because they got away
from it. But you also had an aggressive Iran who
aggressively sought a nuclear weapon. President Trump by the time

(12:11):
he got in unfortunately, diplomacy wasn't working.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
President Trump said in April that they have sixty days.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
They have sixty days, and I think it was April
twelfth that they had sixty days to negotiate doing away
with their nuclear program. And by the way, at midnight
on the sixtieth day, going in the sixty first day
is where the air strikes from Israel started.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
So he doesn't bluff.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Once he puts a red line out, he makes that
red line very clear and decisive, and he backs it up.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
And so, Senator, for people that I represent, my generation,
I share a lot of this. We're very weary of
long quagmires Iraq war. But President Trump has a different
philosophy here. He wants violent sise's action. He wants to commit.
He does not allow a publicly stated line to not

(13:09):
have fulfillment. And what is the profundity on the significance
of that one minute remaining Centator, when it comes to
foreign policy.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
People know where he stands. It's clarity.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
He's made his point clear in his position, and he's
backing it up by repositioning our assets by deterrence. He
is not wanting to fight a war, but he is
showing that he's prepared to fight if he must, but
he's at the same time, he's been through this whole
bombing campaign too. He said, he's been saying, I wish

(13:41):
you're wrong, would have came to the table. I wish
you would talk. We're still willing to talk, but you're
going to have to come to our terms. We're not
negotiating on your terms. He has been consistent through this,
through this entire situation, and that hasn't changed. When world
leaders know that they can trust what you say, and
you're also backing it up with Reagan foreign policy, p

(14:02):
sue strength. It gets people's attention, and there is nobody
better than this. And by the way, there's nobody that
wants peace more than President Trump as well. And you
can achieve both by showing strength and having a straight talk.

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(17:27):
back everybody. Email us is Always Freedom at Charliekirk dot
com and subscribe to our podcast. Senator Moman, you're the
liaison between the House and the Senate when it comes
to the big beautiful bill. What should our audience know
about these negotiations.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Well, they're fluid and the President is very, very involved
in this, Charlie. What we don't want to do is
get in the ping pong back and forth where the
House sends, where we send this back to the House,
the House mends that, send it back to us, and
we end up going in to conference and that would
take weeks.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
If not months to negotiate.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
We're trying to is work all the problems out now,
like with salt with a debt limit, with Medicare and Medicaid.
When we start talking about some debt limit increase, that
is a very sticky subject for some because there's a
lot of people in both chambers that doesn't want to
put debt limit increase in this. But understand that if

(18:21):
we don't do this, this is a leverage point for
the Democrats because we will have to raise our debat limit.
If we don't raise our deatlmit, then we default. And
this is what I said on multiple places. Not raising
our debt limit is like not getting a business loan
when you're buying a fell. In business, you can have
a business plan to make it profitable, but doesn't mean
you're going to make it properble the first day.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
That's why you have a business loan.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
I feel like if we follow Trump's economic plan, we
raise a debt limit, now there's a good chance that
we can be that we can balance a budget in
three years. And this might get us to three years,
depending on how much growth we have. Four point five
trillion dollars huge debt increase, I get that, but we
have to do it to get out of this problem.
As President Trump said, he didn't create this problem, he

(19:05):
inherited it. It's on us to fix it, and we've
got to try fixing it. And this this bill moves
us that way. But I think probably the two sticky
points is a debt or the debt UH limited increase
well three debt limit increase, deficit reduction and salt UH

(19:25):
and salt could be the poison pill here if we
don't get it right and so and.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, so the we can't allow a poison pill? What
what like? Senator you're from Oklahoma. Oklahoma as well run
governors did is great. You know that I visited Oklahoma
State University. You guys, I think balance your budget to
get close to it in approximation of it. You know,
you guys are have a great tax policy. I don't
understand what is the argument from Republicans for salt other

(19:52):
than they want to bring goodies home. They are subsidizing JB.
Pritzker and Gavin Newsman, Kathy Hokel, I know you got
to be the negotiator. I know you got to try
to make a deal happen on salt. But I got
to be honest. It is a penalty for well run
red states. Sure.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
So first of all, every state in the Unions is
supposed to pass the balance budget.

Speaker 7 (20:12):
They're not allowed to carry debt the United States.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
That's why I say, if we would actually bring on
bring back line on appropriations where we had to appropriate
every single dollar dollar instead of bundling dollars like states do,
we could actually probably balance our budget because what Doge
is doing is just exactly what states do every day.
Is they line item every single penny that is spent.

(20:34):
Since we don't we bundle, you have wasteful spinning that
Doge is exposing.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
So get back to assault.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Here's the problem with this is we have a very
slim majority.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
In the House.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Obviously we do in the Senate too, and there's five
representatives that this is their big issue, and without their support,
this bill doesn't pass.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Well, I'm not minimalizing that.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
So there's that negotiation that they are.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
It's what our funding fathers wanted, right, they wanted people
to represent their backyard. And I agree state of Oklahoma
should not be subsidizing New York and California because they
have high property taxes and poor leadership in their state. However,
that's where we're at. Used to salt was, you know,
you could deduct all your property tax and you get

(21:28):
a full deduction on it. We cut that down to
ten thousand dollars. Your maximum was ten thousand dollars that
you couldn't You couldn't claim more than ten thousand dollars
in these communities, which is the average household pays about
seven thousand a month or seven thousand a year in
property tax.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
That's across the United States.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
That obviously in these blue rand states, your property tax
is much much higher. What we're negotiating right now is like,
how can.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
We get there?

Speaker 8 (21:54):
The House bill put in forty thousand dollars as a
camp that you can which is an astronomical amount for states.
That for people that live in blue states, you're like,
what are red states? You're like, what, you're paying forty
thousand dollars in property tax?

Speaker 7 (22:09):
That's crazy?

Speaker 8 (22:10):
But in New York that's actually pretty common because once again,
they have a very poor rand state and they spend
way more money than what they should be, so they
put it on property owners' backs. What we're negotiating right
now is saying Okay, we're going to have to do something.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
It's that forty.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Thousand on the house, their numbers forty thousand. But what
if we cap it? What if we just cap it
for those that need the benefit the most. That's your teachers,
your first responders, your factory workers, your line workers, I
mean lower income individuals. At the same time, the average

(22:49):
income for a household income for a homeowner in New
York is roughly between depending on where you're at geographically,
it's in between one hundred and ten thousand and two
hundred fift So maybe we put a cap there at
forty thousand, and.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
We go and we put it.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
And if we can put a cap in it and
say home, you get a full forty thousand dollars reduction
up there.

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Speaker 17 (23:21):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. President Trump is back at the White House
and cutting is after cutting his trip to the G
seven Summity in Canada short in order to strategize about
the ongoing situation between Israel and Iran. Overnight, he called
his National Security Council to the Situation Room in order
to begin planning next steps as the conflict between Israel

(23:44):
and Iran is now in its fifth day. Here are
the President's thoughts early this morning on board Air Force one.

Speaker 13 (23:51):
Ran cannot have an amail their weapons very simple, not
to go too deep into it, but they just can't
have a new their weapon.

Speaker 18 (23:58):
What do you say to brown and to evacuate? Is
there a threat or is there incoming?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
What was the thinking?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Knowing that I want people to be safe, and that's
always possible, thing like that could happen.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
I just want people to be safe. Is there any
new concern about US troops or assets in the region
at all?

Speaker 6 (24:18):
But great people and how to protect themselves. And when
you say better, what, Oh, we'll come down so hard?

Speaker 13 (24:25):
Are they doing anything?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Our people will come down so hard that then loves
her off so beautifully.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Now they.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Think they I think they know that to.

Speaker 17 (24:36):
Aller drops, the Pentagon says the United States isn't looking
to enter a war with Iran, and instead, quote, American
forces are maintaining their defensive posture and that's not changed.
We'll protect American troops and our interest that by the way,
the word from Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell, and as you
heard the back and forth attacks between the two countries,

(24:58):
as President Trump calling for an evacuate equation of Tehran
but also emphasizing that a non nuclear Iran is the
only option. Senate Republicans are out with proposed changes to
the president so called One Big Beautiful Bill. The Senate
ideas are likely to set off a face off with
Republicans in the House. One potential area of disagreement could

(25:19):
be making business related tax breaks permanent while also limiting
the deductibility of state and local income taxes or excuse me,
state and local income taxes. It's called salt. The different
versions of the bill and the two Republican controlled chambers
could complicate getting the measure passed by the July fourth deadline,

(25:39):
which leaders in both houses have set. That's a quick
check of your headlines.

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dot com. Okay, let's do some updates about Israel and
Iran and potentially the United States. Right now, there is
a mass mobilization underway of US aircraft and the USS
knimics into the Middle East to be prepared. In fact,
the president right now, President United States President Trump is
sending up some very spicy truth social posts. He says, quote,

(28:23):
we know exactly where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding.
He is an easy target, but is safe there. We're
not going to take him out kill. I love that,
at least not for now. But we don't want missile
shot at civilians or American soldiers. Our patients is wearing thin,
thank you for your attention to this matter. And then
President Trump says two words in all caps, unconditional surrender.

(28:51):
For ten years, President Donald Trump has said that Iran
should not get a nuclear weapon. For ten years, he
has been consistent about this. Now, now President Trump is
left with a choice. Israel has done a lot of
work in Iran. They have bombed a lot of targets.
But there are some nuclear facilities where the weaponry is

(29:13):
hidden within a mountain, it is within a deep, deep bunker,
and it would potentially require US involvement or what's called
bunker busting bombs otherwise brokeered by B fifty two or
American bombers. Now, in situations like this, it's important to

(29:34):
understand that we do not know all the facts or
the circumstances of the elements surrounding this. President Donald Trump
has to make a very important decision. Does the United
States get involved kinetically against Iran? So what would this
look like if the United States were to get involved

(29:54):
with the run You can see all public reports. It
looks like there is a mobilization to the region. Bombing
Iran would be a direct escalation. Now would not be
the same as bombing their oil fields or even bombing
the supreme leader. The most basic action would be drop

(30:15):
a bunker buster on their underground nuclear plant. And some
people claim that's the only thing we have to do.
But the cautionary tale that I would say both privately
and publicly, and I'm going to Washington, DC tomorrow and
i will say this on the show, and I'll say
this to anyone that will listen. It's very hard to
stop a war when you want, and it's hard to

(30:37):
stop a war once you're in the midst of a war.
So let's say that the United States bombs Ford, oh
with bunker busting bombs and Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
Not good. No one wants that. You can see how
it's changed the geopolitical calculus. When North Korea has a
nuclear weapon. It makes us treat North Korea in a

(30:57):
way that we otherwise would not treat it. We have
to put more time, attention, detail, troops, intelligence, what otherwise
would be a third world country. The fact they have
a nuclear weapon, we have to take them far more seriously.
If we were to bomb FOURDA, Iran would likely and
probably consider this to be an active war. Would they

(31:21):
respond and try to target US bases, Would they try
and target US troops? Would they activate sleeper cells within
the interior of the United States? These are all things
that President Trump has to factor in. On the other side,
President Donald Trump has said I will not allow Iran
to get a nuclear weapon because he has said when
crazy people have weapons of unthinkable violence, you have to

(31:45):
deal in reality. The longer I live, the more I
realize that pure bitanical ideological approaches to situations like this
are not helpful. On one's side, is the Lindsay Graham
John Bolton types where they are actively calling for regime change?

(32:07):
Can we play the tape of Lindsay Graham yesterday, who's
just quite honestly, just making a lunatic of himself. It
just looks like a lunatic on them. Time for us
to close the chapter on the Mullahs and the Ayahtola.
So let me first just paint to you the two
extremes and then also let you know that's actually not
how life works, and Donald Trump is actually rejecting both extremes.

(32:30):
Here is Lindsay Graham, this is just lunacy. He's this
kind of analysis is not helpful. This kind of approach
this kind of argument, It says nothing new with nuclear
weapons at this point. This is now that we want
to go all in and take out the regime. It's

(32:54):
time for us to close the chapter on the Iranian
Ayahtola and his henchmen and start a new chapter in
the Middle East. And that sounds good, doesn't it. But
what have we learned when it comes to wars, and
especially wars in the Middle East. What you draw up
on a whiteboard rarely happens what you think theoretically is

(33:17):
going to occur. There might be unintended and unforeseen consequences,
especially when you're talking about a country two and a
half times the size of Texas and has ninety million
people and was in ancient and great power with well
over a dozen ethnic groups. You have underground Christians, you

(33:41):
don't really have many Jews left in Persia, but also
you have secular younger Persians. Who's going to run the
country exactly, Lindsey Graham, this sounds like Hillary Rodham Clinton
in Libya. So I'm pointing to the first extreme right now,
the neo conservative extreme. We must go take off the
head of the snake right now, and Donald Trump is

(34:01):
doing a phenomenal job of resisting these calls for regime change.
He's playing around with it on truth social as he should. Rhetorically.
President Trump should rhetorically taunt and rhetorically threaten regime change. Absolutely,
he should engage in information warfare play cut two eighty five.

Speaker 10 (34:24):
Be all in President Trump and helping Israel eliminate the
nuclear threat. If we need to provide bombs to Israel,
provide bombs, if we need to fly planes with Israel,
do joint operations.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
But here's the bigger question.

Speaker 10 (34:37):
Wouldn't the world be better off if the Iototals went
away and replaced by something better? Wouldn't Iran be better off?
It's time to close the chapter on the Iran and
iotot and his henchmen. Let's close that chapter soon and
start a new chapter in the Mideast, one of tolerance,
to hope and peace.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Okay, that sounds good, but that's pathologically insane. I'm sorry
it is how you No, it's gonna be better. Yeah,
the Ayatoll is awful, but maybe he's one of the
few guys that can keep that country together and not
have a ninety million person civil war. Lindsey Graham is

(35:14):
so consistently out of his mind. It's hard to even comprehend.
Iran is hugely diverse. It is a massive country. Do
the people agitating for war even know that? Because be clear,
regime changes war. Just to understand regime change is not
like changing the head coach at the Chicago Bears. It's

(35:36):
not how it works. Oh, we're gonna bring a new
head coach. I think that some people think that it's
as easy in like sports terms. Oh, we're just okay,
Nick Saban is gone. We're gonna go bring in the
coach from University of Washington, Sorry Andrew, Oh okay, Mario
Cristobal left the University of Oregon. We're gonna go bring

(35:58):
in Dan Lenning, which actually ended up being very good change.
It doesn't work that way. It's not like a clean transfer.
Typically in the Mid East, it's very messy, creates a quagmire,
and then there is civil war. Do you understand how
large Iran is. It's massive. It's a very big country.

(36:18):
It's mountainous. It makes Afghanistan and I Rock look like
a cakewalk. Just look at this beast of a country,
with all the different regions, all the different dialects. If
we can put that up on screen, and then you
have a major refugee concern of Mohammedans that will come
to Europe and danger more Christians than Jews and Mohammedans
that will come to America. No, that is wrong. So

(36:45):
that is one extreme. Now Donald Trump rejects that, and
he says no, no, no, I don't want regime change.
He's never ran on regime change. He doesn't believe in
regime change. He is resistant to that. But there is
another extreme. There is another extreme, and I get the
temptation of being the other extreme. I actually agree with
a lot of this other extreme a lot. I think

(37:06):
it's healthy to have this other extreme more than the
neo concerted extreme because this extreme has been underrepresented in
the public dialogue and discourse the last twenty years. The
other extreme is one that I deep respect and reverence
for because I actually think if we had that other extreme,
we would not have invaded a rock. This other extreme
is philosophically important, it's important to consider, and that's the

(37:28):
Ron Paul extreme. And I love Ron Paul. Ron Paul
is awesome. I would have Ron Paul on the show regularly.
He is a hero because Ron Paul had the courage
to chain, to challenge old sacred cows of the Republican Party.
He made people defend the indefensible. But the Ron Paul

(37:50):
perspective is strictly isolationist. He would say, who cares if
oil goes to one hundred and forty dollars a barrow.
That's not our role. We don't to police the straight
of horror moves. It doesn't matter if Ron gets a
nuclear weapon. Kind of fortress America for tofy it and
let the rest of the world do what it wants
to do. Sounds good, but it doesn't work, as the

(38:13):
American economy is actually largely dependent on intertwined global trait.
You don't have to like it. It's the way it is.
I'm gonna keep on building up these two extremes because
President Donald Trump actually finds himself in the arimathatic mean
and a very prudent middle to weigh both options. He

(38:35):
is not an isolationist nor a neocon. He's an American patriot.
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let me add on the Lindsay Graham side, bombing the
oil field sounds good, right? Okay? You want summer gas
to go to one hundred and eighty dollars a barrow
and to go to seven dollars a gallon. I don't
think so. The Iranians have said they have a couple
red lines taking up the ayahtola and bombing the economy

(39:40):
is probably one of them.

Speaker 21 (39:41):
Will be right back, Patriots welcome, Leftist hate him, nobody
ignores him.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
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Speaker 4 (39:56):
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twenty twenty five dot com. Welcome back, but email us
Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. So you have these two extremes,

(41:31):
I honestly don't think the neoconservative extreme needs to be
represented philosophically anymore. It's uninteresting to me. They've done a
mess of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the entire Middle East, Ukraine.
We know what the neoconservatives belief I do think hearing
out and honestly I agree with a lot of the
more I don't. I think isolationist is used as a pejorative.

(41:54):
But let's just say restrained community. But it doesn't matter
what Charlie Kirk believes. It's actually not that relevant. Let
me tell you what President Trump has in front of him,
and this is the stuff of what statements states men's
are made. A statesman is a man at the highest moment.
When you have the weight of the shoulders, like Churchill
or Lincoln of the world on your shoulders, you act

(42:16):
with prudence and not on ideological fervor. President Donald Trump
is a man made for this moment. This is why
President Trump was elected President of the United States. So
on one side, he's getting phone calls from Lindsey Graham,
Mister President, we need to invade Iran and liberate the

(42:38):
mullis aunt wrong, Like that's just that's a non starter.
I'm sorry, George W. Bush. That was an administration ender
for George W. Bush, and the more that we remind
people about Iraq and Afghanistan. I actually think it allows
us towards a healthy way of viewing what's happening in Iran.
And then the other side, which is the online magabase,

(43:01):
especially the younger magabase, is very against US involvement in Iran.
And I understand it, I share it, I get it,
I totally understand it. We've known nothing but quagmire lies, deception,
intel agencies that have spied on Trump, intel agencies that

(43:22):
lied about weapons of mass destruction, intel agencies that misled
us about Libya, intel agencies that led us about almost
every single corner of the region. We took an online poll.
Ninety percent of our audience and four hundred thousand people
voted were against the United States getting involved in a
war in Iran. The President Donald Trump has been saying

(43:48):
this for nearly ten years. Here's a montage of President
Trump saying Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. Play cut three fifteen.

Speaker 22 (43:55):
You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 13 (43:59):
You cannot let it happened, because.

Speaker 22 (44:02):
Bad things will happen if that happens. But everybody stopped,
they were ready to make a deal.

Speaker 19 (44:07):
We would have made a deal.

Speaker 22 (44:08):
It was great for everybody. No nuclear weapons. You can't
give them nuclear weapons. Now they can have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 7 (44:12):
But I wanted to make a deal with them. No
nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
You can't have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 22 (44:17):
Nuclear weapons are the single greatest threat to this world,
to the whole world.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And Victor Orban understands that, and some others do too.

Speaker 22 (44:24):
I just didn't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
I said, you know, we're going to make a great deal.
Everybody's going to be happy, You're going to be rich
as hell again. Everything's going to be great. But you
cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You can't let a Ran have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Very simple.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
They cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
And that's just a short little taste of what he's
been saying for ten years. It's the man in the
arena that counts. It's easy to lob criticisms, easy to say, oh,
why is it you are even mobilizing the USS mimics
and we have no idea how this is gonna work out.

(45:05):
But I encourage you, as you view the next couple
of days, to not view things overly ideological. In fact,
we should resist ideological fervor saying, oh, take out the
oil fields. No one wants poverty for the Iranian people.
You take out the oil fields, get ready for one
hundred and eighty dollars a barrel gas, a lot of
Iranian starting to starve and potentially in Iranian civil war.

(45:28):
Take out the ayatola. Resist that temptation. That's not that's
not prudence, that's not self control. That's something else talking.
That's a zeal. The very same zeal got us involved
in a pile of garbage in a rack. It all
felt good with Shatkunawe in March of two thousand and three.

(45:50):
We're unstoppable. We're gonna take a rock in a weekend.
Turns out didn't work that way. A lot of people died,
a lot of Americans died unnecessarily, and so President Donald
try Trump finds himself in the decision making chair. President
Donald Trump ten years ago said two things, and he

(46:13):
ran on it, not just recently, but he ran on
it for a decade. And both these things can simultaneously
be true only thanks to the real politic approach of
President Donald Trump and the Maga Agenda, a book that
I wrote. These two things he said ten years ago
Iraq War was a bloody catastrophe and a disaster and

(46:34):
will never happen again. And Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon.
Only President Donald Trump can hold both those things in
his hands. Only President Trump, with prudence and practicality and wisdom,
is able to weigh them both, thread the needle and
walk the tightrope. President Donald Trump is a man made

(46:54):
for this moment, and we should trust him. Second hour
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(48:35):
your Real America's Voice news break. President Trump is back
at the White House after cutting his trip to the
G seven summit in Canada short in order to strategize
about the ongoing situation between Israel and Iran. Overnight, he
called his National Security Council to the Situation Room in
order to begin planning next steps as the conflict between
Israel and Iran is now and it's fifth day. Here

(48:57):
are the President's thoughts early this morning on board Air Force.

Speaker 13 (49:00):
One, Iran cannot have a numble their weapons very simple,
not have to go too deep into it. They just
can't have a nubile their weapon.

Speaker 18 (49:08):
What thinking on the conference around and to evacuate. Is
there a threat or is there incoming?

Speaker 23 (49:14):
What was the thinking about the life that.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
I want people to be safe and that's always possible,
thing like that could happen. I just want people to
be safe.

Speaker 13 (49:23):
Is there any new concern about US troops or assets
in the region at all?

Speaker 6 (49:29):
Great people that know how to protect themselves.

Speaker 19 (49:32):
And when you say better, what, Oh.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
We'll come down so hard?

Speaker 13 (49:35):
Are they doing anything? Our people will come down so hard.
And that loves her off so beautifully.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Now they.

Speaker 13 (49:43):
Think they I think they know that to.

Speaker 19 (49:45):
Touch nowur troops.

Speaker 17 (49:48):
The Pentagon says the United States isn't looking to enter
a war with Iran and instead, quote, American forces are
maintaining their defensive posture and that is not changed. We
will protect American troops and our interest. That is the
word from Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell. And as you heard,
the back and forth attacks between the two countries has
President Trump calling for an evacuation of Tehran, but also

(50:11):
emphasizing that a non nuclear Iran is the only option
in the meantime. More and more video is coming in
offering up new perspective on Israel's attacks on the Islamic Republic.

(50:37):
That was video of the headquarters of the Iranian state
television after an Israeli military strike on Monday. As you
saw the presenter running for cover. Senate Republicans are out
with proposed changes to the president so called One Big
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a face off between House Republicans and House and Senate Republicans.

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This last weekend was the no Kings protest. No Kings,

(52:44):
they say it's funny. They weren't doing no Kings protests
when the most authoritarian thing of all happened in our
country the last thirty years, when the entire nation down
by Democrat governors, and we are forced to take an
m a gene altering vaccine against our will, and I
was not allowed to visit the city of New York

(53:05):
or Los Angeles without show meyo, Papa's a vaccine passport.
No Kings, they say it's funny when American military members
were kicked out of the US military because they would
not take the COVID shot. The same party that selected
an appointed Kamala Harris as the candidate with no election,

(53:26):
no process like a zoom call thinks Trump is a king.
The same party that prevented Bernie Sanders from becoming the
nominee in twenty sixteen and partially twenty twenty thinks that
Trump is a king. Now, no honest person looks at
the situation and thinks that Trump as a dictator, unless,

(53:47):
of course, you are part of the resist AARP crowd.
You see, it's very interesting besides the purple haired g
hatties and the rank and file stormtroopers of the last
look at that picture here from the No King's protest,
It looks old. It's kind of like the last gasp

(54:10):
of the liberal boomer. Not all boomers or liberals. Not
all boomers or liberals. We got great boomers in this
audience that watch on Real America's Voice. But look at
that audience.

Speaker 19 (54:21):
That is.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
An almost all white, elderly crowd. Not that it matters
what color the skin that they are, but it's kind
of interesting. But they're the ones who whine all the time.
If anything is too white, they say. Turning Point Chapter
meetings are too white. Turning Point usay college events are
too white. I thought diversity was your strength. You guys

(54:46):
don't have any age diversity, racial diversity, cultural diversity. Again,
I'm not the diversity police. I don't care if you
want to have an all white gathering. Who am I
to say? But somebody who was on the front lines
of the No Kings protest this last weekend and did
a fabulous job is Nate Friedman, host of The Nate
Friedman Show, independent journalist. You can find them at YouTube

(55:08):
at Nate Friedman ninety seven. Saw a great clip of
his that I do want to play. But first, Nate,
welcome to the program, and please introduce yourself.

Speaker 19 (55:15):
Thank you so much, Charlie. Yeah, my name is Nate Friedman.

Speaker 24 (55:18):
I'm an independent journalist, boots on the ground journalist, and yeah,
I speak to people on the street and just get
to know what's really going on in this country.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
And so you were at the No King's protest and
you started you did this very powerful video that I
hope we have queued up somewhere where let's play it
to ninety six where you identified some of these protesters
do this for a living. Play cut to ninety six.

Speaker 19 (55:42):
Here's my press credential.

Speaker 11 (55:43):
Perfect, thank you?

Speaker 19 (55:45):
Okay, so who are you with?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I'm I'm right now.

Speaker 20 (55:49):
I am representing myself and I am representing the folks
at Rise and resists.

Speaker 19 (55:54):
To have been resists. How much do they pay you
to wear this desk?

Speaker 11 (55:59):
Absolutely nothing?

Speaker 24 (56:00):
Really, So I did some digging and the woman trying
to stop my interview is named Karen Shawl. She is
a professional protester. I found her at almost one hundred
different protests. Let's look at her portfolio, shall we. Here's
her outside Trump Tower saying TikTok times up. Here's her
saying ban guns not drag amazing. This is her telling

(56:20):
us that lies have consequences. She's also very passionate about abortion.
Even in the video right now, she's just wearing a
hat that says abortion on it.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Nate, She's made a career out of this.

Speaker 19 (56:33):
Yeah, yep. This is her second job actually.

Speaker 24 (56:37):
So she's an associate director at Lincoln Center and in
New York City, which is a very prominent theater.

Speaker 19 (56:43):
It's beautiful theater.

Speaker 24 (56:45):
But she's all over the country touring the country protesting,
and I just knew that that was going to be
the case, because no one behaves like that for free.

Speaker 19 (56:54):
I just refuse to believe that.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Yeah, and so you kept on, let's just say your research.
You kept on examining it. And there's a whole group
of these paid protesters, is that correct.

Speaker 19 (57:07):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, And I've met them personally
and dealt with them personally.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Tell us more.

Speaker 16 (57:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (57:14):
So when I went to the takedown Tesla protest, almost
immediately upon getting there, an older woman comes up to
me and has a right wing troll arrow and follows
me around the protest. Now I hadn't even interviewed anyone
up until that point. You know, I had asked someone
for an interview, but I wasn't granted one yet. And
then she comes along and she follows me and asks

(57:35):
everyone I speak to to not talk to me. And
that same arrow is at the No King's protest, the
printed the exact same way. And so the original older
woman that I spoke to at the Tesla protest, I
found her at you know, twenty thirty different protests.

Speaker 19 (57:53):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 24 (57:55):
And then all over the country too, DC blocking the Capitol,
stopping senators and the cafeteria, the whole, the whole deal.

Speaker 19 (58:01):
Then two more people come along and I.

Speaker 24 (58:04):
See that they're teammates. Actually that all the time. They're
in pictures together. It's all in the Tesla takedown video.
And so they all behave the same way. They're all
telling each other like this, don't don't speak to him,
don't speak to him. And what's funny is they eat
their own So someone wants to speak. They say, I
don't care who Nate is. I want to have a conversation.
They say, no, no, no, don't have a conversation. So

(58:26):
you see them disagreeing with each other, and it's just
it's crazy because you know, the left lost the election,
so they should know that in order to win back votes,
you have to have conversations with the other side.

Speaker 19 (58:38):
The other side one, right, So it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Let's go to seventy nine. This is at an ice
protest where he has a sign that says, I stand
with Aron. He seems like a pleasant person. Play cut
two seventy nine.

Speaker 13 (58:51):
And how you doing, Nate.

Speaker 24 (58:53):
I'm just supressed.

Speaker 19 (58:54):
And then you have a.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Different kind of sign.

Speaker 16 (58:55):
Can you tell me about it?

Speaker 19 (58:56):
Sure? My sign says I stand with Iran.

Speaker 22 (58:59):
Whoa don't have a new They never would want a
new America ever ever, Ever, I've been to Iran these.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
What about this?

Speaker 24 (59:07):
What about the Supreme Leader of Iran saying like death
to America?

Speaker 7 (59:10):
Is that just like words? That's part of our propaganda?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Any casual when we get mad at that on recall
yesh East.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
So Nate, who is this guy? And he doesn't seem
like a spring chicken?

Speaker 24 (59:27):
Yeah, so funny thing about this. So I had to
get this video. I wanted to get this video out
to my audience as fast as possible. I later did
find him at like six or seven different protests with
this you know, Veterans.

Speaker 19 (59:38):
Association that he's with.

Speaker 24 (59:40):
But this guy, he did speak to me for over
ten minutes, and I have to I always have respect
for the people I'm interviewing. They are granting me an interview,
they're willing to speak, that's that's great. But I did
he did lie every two to three minutes. One of
the biggest lies was that Hamas is that Iran is
not funding terrorism. And I just said, there's literally videos

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of Hamas thanking, thanking I ran for money, I mean,
so it's quite interesting how they just don't listen to facts.
And then when I asked them where's their source of news?
Where did he get his source of news? He said,
Iranian media?

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Well, Iranian media is having a tough week. So Nate,
how did you get your start here? And then I'll
keep you over the break.

Speaker 24 (01:00:24):
Sure, So I got my start around the NATO summit
of last year when Biden called Zelensky Putin, I thought
I just couldn't stay on the sidelines anymore. I thought, Okay,
this is the national security risk. This person is obviously
not running our country. So I was just curious, are
people out on the street going to vote for him again?

Speaker 19 (01:00:44):
And I let each side talk.

Speaker 24 (01:00:47):
I wanted to hear from both sides, and I really
just felt very passionate about having those conversations because polls
are one thing, you know, but it doesn't give the
country an idea of why are people voting for certain people?
So I figured if I just let if I just
let people talk, then people will make up their own
minds of what's the best person to vote for.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
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This is what Andrew Breitbart wanted to see this entire time.
Andrew Breitbart always said, you have a phone, get out
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Email us as always freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Nate
Friedman continues, us, is this is this clipbokay to play? Guys?
I know there's been a lot of bad words. You
know we're on radio right now, Nate, and so if
there's anyone says a bad word. I get a nice
letter from the FCC with a big fine, let's go
to cut three hundred. Let's go to cut three hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I don't give a company being Jewish, Hindu, Muslim that Okay, okay,
what song is that?

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
This is? So what what you're trying to do?

Speaker 17 (01:05:13):
Yeah, that's no.

Speaker 19 (01:05:15):
Yeah, what song is that?

Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
We're gonna put you on YouTube?

Speaker 19 (01:05:23):
It sounds good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
So she gets paid to go do this. I have
a question, do you have any idea who is financing this?

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:05:39):
So she works for a company called Rise and Resist.
So there are many nonprofits like this. So there's like
Jewish Voices for Peace. There are many nonprofits that are
funding this, and it goes all the way to the
top bites. I'm still digging in. But you know their
donation links are to Act Blue. So it gives you
a starting idea of who's behind this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Yeah, and so what when you went to these protests?
I'm sure there were a fair amount of young people.
But it does skew older, doesn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely does.

Speaker 24 (01:06:14):
And I met I met an older woman wearing a
make a Mexico make make Mexico America again hat and
she was you know, she was in her seventies and
just you know, such a hatred for America. It's it's
really sad to see that, you know, It's it's just
it's ironic that this is a no King's protest and
they're all freely chanting against the king.

Speaker 19 (01:06:36):
You know, it just doesn't make any sense. You should so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Yeah, but so the the coverage, what city did you
cover this last week for the protests?

Speaker 19 (01:06:46):
So this was New York City, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
The the protests in La got very unruly. This is
obviously choreographed, obviously finance. I know you've not been doing
this for quite some time, but you have good talent
to be able to get in there, and they're going
to come after you anytime. And are they starting to
recognize you?

Speaker 19 (01:07:05):
Yeah, so unfortunately. So for example, at the.

Speaker 24 (01:07:10):
When Trump Tower was occupied, I asked a question and
I asked, you know, one of the leaders of the protests.
First of all, oftentimes I'll try to speak to someone
and they'll say, go and speak to our media person.
They won't think independently for themselves. They'll just tell me
to go speak to another person. So I speak to
a person and I say, you know, is Trump a dictator?

Speaker 19 (01:07:30):
And they won't. They refuse to answer because they know.

Speaker 24 (01:07:32):
That if Trump were a dictator, they wouldn't let mass
amount of people occupy his wife and sons home.

Speaker 7 (01:07:39):
Right.

Speaker 24 (01:07:40):
So I've they start to recognize me, and I see
this woman who works for this company called Jewish Currents,
which is a magazine company that often works with Jewish
Voices for Peace, which is a far left radical group,
does not speak for the Jewish people, very anti Zionists,
and actually celebrated, you know, October seventh. And you can

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see that it's paid for because this woman who's the
leader of this protest, the only one that I'm qualified
to speak to so called she is working for this
Jewish Currents magazine and she's just there in the middle
of the day, right.

Speaker 19 (01:08:14):
So that's just an example of what sort of happens.

Speaker 24 (01:08:17):
And also I went to a protest recently, one of
those anti Ice ones, and these guys in cafeas you know,
their masks, they're massed up, sunglasses, everything, and they walk
up to me, they take a photo of my press ID.
I say, do you want to ask me anything? Do
you want to do you want to speak to me?

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:08:33):
You know, you've got nothing to hide, right your press
and they just take photos of me and walk away.
So yeah, it's not nice to have guys with CAFs
walk up to you and take photos of your press ID.

Speaker 19 (01:08:41):
But that's what I'm willing to risk when I'm out
there in the field.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
And so in closing here, you as a as a
young man, I'm guessing you're Jewish? Is that correct?

Speaker 19 (01:08:51):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
And so this takes a lot of hootspot for you
to go out into the streets and you kind of
see the the protests and what what What have you
learned about the radical left that you wish other Americans
and liberal Jews would know? Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:09:06):
Absolutely, so okay, So what I wish liberal Jews wouldn't
understand is that Trump has been the best president of
all time for Jewish people.

Speaker 19 (01:09:15):
It's just it's very, very clear. He's so good to Israel.

Speaker 24 (01:09:18):
He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, his daughter, his daughter
converted to Jews Judaism, he loves the Jewish people, and
he brought many hostages home. It's remarkable, and that alone
should be enough. Bringing those people home should be enough
and he said he was going to do it, and
he did so. That's what I wish liberal Jews would
understand that Trump is the best president for Jews.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
How really quick you know we're running out of him?
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Police Absolutely, Nate Friedman ninety seven on YouTube. I speak
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I never show bias the interviews. I speak to both
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Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
Very good, Nate, thank you so much. God bless you.
Talk to you soon.

Speaker 19 (01:10:10):
Thank you.

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Excellent. Every one of you has the capacity to do it,
few will do it, and that's what I love. Everyone
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few do it. Takes courage. We'll be right back.

Speaker 17 (01:10:31):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak. I'm Terrence Bates.
We are continuing to learn more about the man who
investigators say killed former Minnesota Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman
and shot her husband. State Senator John Hoffman and his
wife were also shot that night, but both survived. Prosecutors
say the AQ shooter had dozens of additional targets, including

(01:10:53):
officials in at least three other states. He allegedly visited
the homes of at least two other legislators the knight
of the attacks. One was on vacation and police showed
up at the other home, so he reportedly left. Prosecutor
say all of the politicians named in the fifty seven
year Olds manifesto were Democrats. The list included more than
forty five state and federal officials across Minnesota, along with

(01:11:16):
elected officials in Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin. The accused killer
faces federal charges for murder and stalking. He could be
sentenced to death if convicted. State charges include murder and
attempted murder. And just this morning, President Trump confirming that
he will not be calling Minnesota governor and former Democrat
vice presidential nominee Tim Waltz to discuss the political attacks

(01:11:39):
that have thrust Minnesota into the national spotlight.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
I think the governor of Minnesota is so backed out,
I'm going why would I go.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
I could go and say, hi, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
The guy?

Speaker 13 (01:11:52):
He's a mess, so that I could be nice to
grow member. Why waste?

Speaker 17 (01:11:57):
The presidents typically reach out to other elected officials during
times of tragedy to offer condolences and federal assistance if needed.
The Commander in chief also took the opportunity to point
out that Governor Walls appointed the accused shooter to serve
on Minnesota's Workforce Development Board. One of the victims of
the attacks. Democrat Senator John Hoffman also served on that board. However,

(01:12:22):
it's not clear if the two knew each other. President
Trump back at the White House right now after cutting
his trip to the G seven summit in Canada short
in order to strategize about the ongoing situation between Israel
and Iran. Meantime, more and more video is coming in
offering up new perspective on Israel's attacks on the Islamic Republic.

(01:12:43):
That was the video we were going to show you,
was video of the headquarters of the Iranian state television
after an Israeli military strike on Monday. Well, that's going
to do it for your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

Speaker 19 (01:13:02):
I want see, but.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
I'm not sure, I can tell you the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
In a rocket.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Jeez.

Speaker 19 (01:13:14):
Hello there, I'm producer Blake. This is producer Daisy.

Speaker 23 (01:13:17):
Charlie had to head out a bit early to get
to d C, so we thought we could do a
slightly different segment. People have been hearing a lot of
news over the last few weeks. They've been hearing a
lot about Mullah's and bunker busting bombs and nuclear programs
and countries on the far side of the world.

Speaker 19 (01:13:37):
And we know a lot of our viewers are younger people.
They're members of gen Z.

Speaker 23 (01:13:42):
They may not know all the background to this, and
so we thought it'd be a fun segment to have
one of our producers, who is a gen Z Daisy
join us. I'm a millennial, shamefully, and I'm proud. So
we heard that song, which that was a song.

Speaker 11 (01:13:56):
I hadn't heard that until today.

Speaker 23 (01:13:58):
That is a song from right after nine eleven, and
you know, it says, Daisy, do you know the difference
between Iraq and Iran?

Speaker 11 (01:14:06):
Yes, as And I know they're two different countries, but
I would be lying if I said I didn't think
they were extremely similar, like and from my knowledge, they're
both Muslim countries in the Middle East.

Speaker 19 (01:14:19):
Yees, So we'll start there.

Speaker 23 (01:14:20):
So they're both Muslim countries in the Middle East, and
they are in fact right next.

Speaker 19 (01:14:24):
To each other.

Speaker 23 (01:14:25):
I don't know if you guys want to grab a
map of the Mid East really quick, but so you
have uh Iraq is a country. We invaded it in
two thousand and three, so twenty two years ago, and
we invaded it.

Speaker 19 (01:14:37):
It was run by a guy named Saddam Hussein. You
know who Saddam was, right.

Speaker 23 (01:14:41):
Yes, and he was killed, Yes, he was executed actually,
so they put him on trial.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
He was a bad dude.

Speaker 19 (01:14:47):
He was a dictator.

Speaker 23 (01:14:48):
He did like he killed a lot of his own people.
He was like your prototypical strong man.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
He killed by us.

Speaker 23 (01:14:55):
Well, so technically we put him through a trial for
bad things that he had done. He was sentenced to
death and then he was hanged, and I think the
Iraqi government technically hanged him because it was a somewhat
sort of affair.

Speaker 19 (01:15:07):
There's there was video of it. It was kind of
disturbing to watch. We won't go into that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Well, I do.

Speaker 11 (01:15:12):
I don't remember hearing about Stam Hussein. I do remember,
and it's a running thing on TikTok that everyone in
my age has memories of not knowing who Asama bin
Laden was, but being somewhere and your parents freaking out
that Osama bin Laden was killed. And there's a whole
running joke on X and on TikTok that people used
to think that that was someone that they knew in
their lives who was killed.

Speaker 19 (01:15:33):
Oh oh wow, man.

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
I remember where I was my found out he was killed.
I don't know who he was.

Speaker 19 (01:15:38):
Did you think did you ever think?

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:15:40):
I mean my parents were hardcore Republican, so I knew
he was a bag. They were clearly excited. They were
very excited that he was killed.

Speaker 23 (01:15:48):
Okay, So yeah, so iraqing around different countries, they border
each other. There's similar in a few ways. So you've
heard of Islam, of course, But do you know there's
two major types of his.

Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
Yes, they both start with s's. One is radical and
one is not radical.

Speaker 23 (01:16:05):
No, they are if only we're that's simple. So there's
the main type of Islam is called Sunni Islam. That
is what most Muslims are worldwide, and in fact it's
most Muslim terrorists are Sunni. So the guys who the
guys who did nine to eleven were Sunnis, Okay, but
I don't want to say that's the terrorist.

Speaker 19 (01:16:23):
One because that there's a billion Sunni Muslims out there.

Speaker 23 (01:16:26):
So Egypt is Sunni, Saudi Arabia is Sunni, Afghanistan is
mostly Sunni. Iran is Shia, and that is the other
type of Islam. And Iraq is also majority Shia, but
it's mixed. So it was I want to say, about
sixty percent Shia and like thirty percent Sunni. And they

(01:16:47):
also had a Christian minority in some other stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:16:49):
When you say these countries are Shia or is that
like everyone in the country in.

Speaker 23 (01:16:53):
Iran or ir almost everybody is Shia. They do have
other minorities very small, but it is mostly Shia. Now
what that means is they often are in conflict with
all the other countries in the Middle East because they
have religious differences with them, and they.

Speaker 11 (01:17:08):
Just have somewhat different in conflict with the other Muslim countries.

Speaker 23 (01:17:12):
Because often over that and other reasons, and on top
of that, Shia Islam has some interesting beliefs.

Speaker 19 (01:17:20):
So I mentioned the nine to eleven.

Speaker 23 (01:17:22):
Guys were were Sunnies, but Shia Islam has a particular
emphasis on martyrdom as a heroic thing. It's kind of
a big It's a religion centered around this early Muslim
figure named Ali and that he died in a civil
war between some early Muslims and they think Ali was
the best and he was killed by them, and that

(01:17:44):
that's kind of their difference with Sunnis is there they're
still litigating a civil war from fifteen hundred years ago, and.

Speaker 19 (01:17:51):
So there's that.

Speaker 23 (01:17:53):
And they also have a very interesting belief. You'll hear
them called the Twelve or Shias. So they believe there
were a series of immams that's like a chief, kind
of a an Islamic teacher. You'll hear a mom used
to just describe a normal Islamic cleric, but this is
like a kind of super mom basically.

Speaker 19 (01:18:08):
And they believe that there were twelve of them.

Speaker 23 (01:18:10):
So there were eleven who kind of there have been
twelve historically, and then the twelfth one died, but they
kind of I believe. The belief is they think he's
like in hiding, like he's still alive and he will return.

Speaker 19 (01:18:20):
He's like a messianic figure.

Speaker 23 (01:18:22):
So Shia Islam is a messianic version of Islam where
they think this twelfth in mom is going to reveal himself,
he'll be called the Mahdi. So there are multiple instances
of a person proclaiming themselves to be the Mahdi as
like an apocalyptic figure.

Speaker 19 (01:18:38):
And wow, we're going way down the rabbit hole of this.

Speaker 11 (01:18:41):
Okay, Well, so my next question, and this is again
just what I'm seeing from a gen Z perspective, all
the two different types of Muslims.

Speaker 15 (01:18:52):
Do they both.

Speaker 11 (01:18:55):
Dislike Israel? They both dislike Jewish the Jewish religion.

Speaker 23 (01:19:00):
There are plenty I don't want to say again, not
all of them think this, but both Sunnis and she
Has have a long history of contact with Israel. So
for example, Israel had multiple wars with Egypt, Sunni country,
they had multiple wars I mean Hamas, that's mostly Sunni group. However,
Iran despises Israel, so you know they cost the Great Satan.
They call Israel the Little Satan. Another group that Israel

(01:19:22):
fights against. You've maybe heard of Hesbela. Yes, Hesbola is
a Shia militant group that occupies southern Lebanon. So there
are Shias in Lebanon too. Hesbla is a Shia group.
So Hamas, Yes, which where does Hamas is a radical
group that controls Gaza, right, and they are a Palestinian

(01:19:43):
radical Islamist group.

Speaker 19 (01:19:44):
They are mostly Sunni. In fact, I think they might
just be exclusively Okay, that was my question.

Speaker 11 (01:19:48):
So Iran and Iraq, we're talking about how similar they are.
Are they allies or they're just similar to people who
don't live in the Middle similar people.

Speaker 23 (01:19:56):
They were hostile to each other historically. So Saddam Hussein,
his country was mostly Shia. Saddam was Sunni and his polite.
He wasn't really a religious figure to the same extent,
but his base was Sunni's, okay, And so it was
kind of a country where the Sunni minority was running
things over the Shia majority.

Speaker 19 (01:20:15):
So he was hostile towards Iran.

Speaker 23 (01:20:17):
So to show you how complicated it is, we invaded
Iraq to overthrow Sadan in the nineteen eighties. We gave
weapons to Saddam or I'm not should we give We
gave some form of support to Saddam because he invaded
Iran and we were anti Iran and.

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
We're okay, So are a lot of people anti Iran?

Speaker 23 (01:20:39):
Yes, a lot of people are anti Iran, so that's
part of where this is complicated. So obviously we have
at this point forty five years of antagonism with Iran.
Have you ever heard of the Iranian hostage crisis? Yes, so, yes,
that was that was the big thing in the Middle East.
That was in fact, that was the biggest story in
America if you were around in nineteen.

Speaker 19 (01:20:59):
Eighty was the hostages that I ran around.

Speaker 11 (01:21:01):
But I've heard of it.

Speaker 23 (01:21:02):
So what happened was Iran had a monarchy, they overthrew
him and he was replaced by this Islamic government. They're
led by a guy called the Ayatola, and Iotola's kind
of just a supreme Islamic cleric title.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
So do have.

Speaker 11 (01:21:17):
Israel and Iran also had a long history of conflict,
or it's just the nuclear threat, the weapon threat, so
that is making it. Israel wants to go after Iran.

Speaker 19 (01:21:27):
As you could see if you look at him.

Speaker 23 (01:21:28):
They don't border each other, so between them there's Jordan,
then Iraq, then around, so there's several hundred miles away,
so there's not a lot of ability to directly fight
each other, and historically there hasn't been so recently Iran's
been shooting missiles at Israel. That wasn't a thing they
were doing twenty years ago. But there's hostility in other ways.
What Iran sort of pioneered was they would sponsor terrorist

(01:21:54):
groups in other countries or militant groups. So for example, Hesbola,
who I mentioned, Hesbela has directly fought Israel. Hezbola has
definitely received assistance from Iran. They've received training, they've received money,
they've received weapons, they've received moral support. So they it's
like proxy wars. So the same way that we give
weapons to Ukraine so Ukraine can fight against Russia. Iran

(01:22:18):
has done that against Israel in many cases. You've heard
about the Huthis lately, yes, So the Huthis are in
yet another country in Middle East Yemen. They've also received
support from Iran over time.

Speaker 11 (01:22:30):
Okay, So is it that Iran has less allies more
just common or people have common enemies with Iran.

Speaker 23 (01:22:38):
So they have allies, but their allies are non are
non state actors, so is a militant group or an
ethnic group rather than they don't really have allies who are.

Speaker 11 (01:22:49):
A similar acting party to what Hamas would be.

Speaker 19 (01:22:51):
Yeah, exactly. Stuff like that.

Speaker 23 (01:22:52):
So here China as an ally of Iran, it's much
more like China just like selling things to whoever. So
we say anctioned Iran, we try to crush their economy.
China doesn't care as much about that, so they're willing
to have trade with Iran, and maybe to the extent
that they see Iran as our rival, they might even
support them a bit as oh, you know, America's hostile

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to us, the enemy of my enemy. But they're not
an ally in the way like the US and Israel
or allies where there's a lot of direct assistance.

Speaker 11 (01:23:22):
So Israel choosing to go after Iran, I have two questions.
I don't know full time you get to them both
in this segment, But one, I have heard you talk
about how Israel has been discussing this threat for a while,
which I didn't know, and I don't know that everyone
my age or just my knowledge of Middle East conflict

(01:23:43):
would know that. So I want you to explain that
a little bit more. But secondly, when Israel chooses to
after Iran, is there anyone specific that they're worried about
retaliating against them on behalf of Iran or just these
militaristic groups.

Speaker 19 (01:23:57):
Yeah, so the first one. Yeah, it's it's been I
would say so.

Speaker 23 (01:24:03):
Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime minister of Israel, he's been prime
minister before, he's been a politician in Israel a long time.
He's been warning about Iran's nuclear program literally since the nineties.
In the nineties he was saying they're a few years
away from getting a bomb. You heard a bit of
this in the two thousands. In two thousand and two,
George W. Bush gave a State of the Union address

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where he declared three countries the access of evil. Iraq
was one of them, North Korea was one of the
and then Iran was the third. So there's been concern, oh,
Iran might try to get nukes or WMD's weapons of
mass destruction.

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Speaker 23 (01:26:07):
All right, so we have a quick rabble only segment here,
Daisy I thought maybe I should ask you a question.

Speaker 19 (01:26:13):
We'll see how alert gen Z is. Name one city
in Iran for sure?

Speaker 11 (01:26:25):
Okay, Tehran, you got it, you got it.

Speaker 19 (01:26:32):
Do you know what that city is?

Speaker 11 (01:26:34):
No, I only know. I would not have known that
a week ago. I only know about it because that's
the one that Trump was true thing about.

Speaker 19 (01:26:41):
That is good enough. That is good enough.

Speaker 23 (01:26:44):
That is the capital of Iran. It's actually quite large.
It's about uh I want to say, it's about the
size of New York City. It's one of the largest
cities in the world. It's in this like bleak lunar
landscape arounds very mountainous. Uh So you have lots of dessert,
lots of mountains, not always a lot of vegetation.

Speaker 19 (01:27:00):
But big city. It's a big country. I think there's
about ninety million people there. Oh so, just for comparison,
I would have never guessed that. The more, the more
you know, I guess.

Speaker 23 (01:27:14):
We still have a minute here, so I could finish that,
you know, close the loop on what we were saying
about Net and Yahoo. It really ramped up. I want
to say about twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, you started getting
a lot more agitation, certainly from net and Yahoo's end,
on Israel's end, where they're saying, we have intelligence Iran
is trying to.

Speaker 19 (01:27:33):
Build a nuclear bomb. They're getting closer to it.

Speaker 23 (01:27:37):
And this is one of the reasons there's so much
debate about this is he did frequently frame it in
this oh, they're six months away from getting it done
there and that they would call this the breakout period
where they would get so close, like we couldn't stop
them from getting the bomb. And they made this warning
a lot so people who are skeptical of a war
with around. One reason they're skeptical is they'll say, oh,
we keep hearing these warnings that Auran's close to a bomb,

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but we've heard.

Speaker 11 (01:28:00):
That before, like the Israel who cried wolf about it.

Speaker 23 (01:28:03):
Sort of, that would be the argument for it, and
the I mean their argument is like kind of, but
now they say for real. So when they were doing
the strikes, they were saying we had evidence they were,
you know, days or weeks away from being able to
build a nuclear bomb.

Speaker 19 (01:28:16):
Send it at Israel. We'll continue after this break.

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Speaker 11 (01:29:51):
Next question, Daisy, Okay, so I brief this question in
the last segment. Is there in Israel? You've been telling
me that Israel's been talking about this for years, that
there's a threat from Iran and when Israel chose to
do the strike. Is there any country or what you've

(01:30:14):
been telling me military groups in specific that they were
worried would retaliate specifically against Israel.

Speaker 19 (01:30:21):
Well, the specific one they'd worry the most about is Iran.

Speaker 23 (01:30:24):
Okay, So those proxy groups that I mentioned, they've already
had a lot of conflict.

Speaker 19 (01:30:28):
With Israel, so hesbla. They've fought them before. They haven't.

Speaker 23 (01:30:32):
They've done a little bit of skirmishing even just since
ten seven, for example.

Speaker 19 (01:30:36):
There would be some worry that if they get into an.

Speaker 23 (01:30:39):
All out war with Iran that that might escalate and
has look could get really heavily involved.

Speaker 19 (01:30:43):
So far, they haven't.

Speaker 23 (01:30:44):
I think a big reason they haven't is Israel has
shown they're far more gung ho about their willing to
take out a lot of people. They I think they're
kind of scared. I think some of hesbla's leaders are thought, yeah,
I'd rather not die right now.

Speaker 11 (01:30:58):
And because they're not necessarily strong allies with Iran, are
a lot of people just kind of like.

Speaker 19 (01:31:05):
Well, they can say strong allies got it.

Speaker 23 (01:31:07):
People you know, have a survival instinct, and so there
are places that are allied with Iran, but they won't
necessarily want to think I am ready to kill myself
to show solidarity with Iran.

Speaker 19 (01:31:18):
And if it looks like the US and.

Speaker 23 (01:31:20):
Israel are well, I should say Israel and possibly the
US are saying this time, we're serious about it. We're
taking out this regime or at least hitting them very hard.
They can think I would rather stand aside from this one.
This is getting too hot to handle.

Speaker 11 (01:31:34):
Do you think we briefly touched on this in the
rav segment, so if you're on Ready, you wouldn't have
heard it. But about how Israel has some people would
say that Israel has been talking about this threat for
so long that they never thought it was going to actualize.
In Israel's actually induce something about it. Do you think
that Iran felt that way, that Israel would never Actually,
they've been talking about.

Speaker 23 (01:31:54):
This and they were genuinely it seems they were genuinely
caught off guard by it.

Speaker 19 (01:31:59):
And that's been one of the funnier things about this.

Speaker 11 (01:32:01):
Does it even doesn't feel like that happens that often anymore?

Speaker 19 (01:32:04):
Yeah, it's actually truly jarring.

Speaker 23 (01:32:06):
So one of the things that you may remember they
did is in their opening strikes, they didn't just hit
air bases or nuclear plants.

Speaker 19 (01:32:13):
They took out leaders of Iran's military and.

Speaker 23 (01:32:17):
No one is in vulnerable, but there's this element of
where they these guys were not prepared to possibly be hit.
They didn't have a secure location because one of the
guys they just took about they blew out an apartment
block in Interrant, right.

Speaker 19 (01:32:32):
Why are you in an apartment block in Tehran?

Speaker 15 (01:32:34):
Right?

Speaker 23 (01:32:35):
And so it seems that they were genuinely there's been
a lot of chatterbobs. It seems they were caught off
guard by this. Immediately beforehand, we'd been talking about, oh,
another round of negotiations. Trump was saying, Oh, we're gonna
meet in Oman, another yet another Middle Eastern country to
do negotiations, and it seems that they just assumed, oh,
we're at least good through those negotiations, we don't have

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to worry about strikes, and they greatly miscalculated that front.

Speaker 11 (01:33:00):
Okay, so we kind of briefly touched on this. Charlie
did with Nate earlier, and he was talking about the
No Kings protests. I'm not understanding how they're and we
only have a minute left. I'm not understanding how people
are at the No Kings protests against Trump, against Ice
and not. It used to be like last year, Americans
were so proudly pro Gaza. They want to go to Gaza,

(01:33:24):
they want to live there, they love it. Now it
seems all of a sudden, and I don't know if
it's because they don't have enough information or it's just
what they're told to support. Now they're I mean, we
just saw that these people being super gung ho about
I Ran. They support I Ran, they want I Ran
to people to do whatever they want. I'm not sure
how that's connecting with the No King's protest.

Speaker 19 (01:33:41):
It doesn't what you see. I mean, this is just
how the left is generally. The Left.

Speaker 23 (01:33:45):
All causes blob together over time. So you see Palestine
flags at your ice protest, You see you know BLM
tweets out pro Hamas stuff after the ten seven attacks.
That is, that's the left, which I think you are
plenty familiar with, even if you don't know as much
about Iraq and Iran.

Speaker 19 (01:34:03):
This is a lot of fun. We should again. Uh,
we'll see all of you tomorrow. Charlie rejoining us by

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
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