The Charlie Kirk Show, May 14, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I will be ordering the cessation of sanctions against Syria
in order to give them a chance at Raapers.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
We're extually honored to have you here. We're very excited,
very happy. It's a historic visit.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
And I don't know if you.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Know that you're the first and are to president to
officiate as to visit cut out right, So we're very unasked,
we're very unhappy.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, I have to say that we've been friends for
a long time. Hard to believe, right, remember that first
meeting very well, and we've liked each other, and we've
worked with each other, and now we can work in
the highest capacity. It's been a very loyal, great beautiful friendship.
I've come this afternoon to talk about the bright future
of the Middle East, but first let me begin by

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sharing the abundance of good news from a place called America.
In less than four months, our new administration has achieved
more than most other administrations accomplished in four years or
even eight years. We've actually done, for the most part more.
In addition to purchases of one hundred and forty two

(01:37):
billion dollars of American made military equipment by our great
sortie partners, the largest ever.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
This week.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
There are multi billion dollar commercial deals with Amazon, Oracle, AMD,
they're all here, Uber, Quailcom.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Johnson and Johnson, and many many more.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Many years we were taken advantage of by other.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Countries drug companies. It turned out that we were paying it.
Sometimes you saw it ten times more for the same drug,
same drug, same company, same plant where they.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Make it laboratory.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
And it got to a point where I said, We're
not going to do this anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
After so many decades of conflict. Finally it is within
our grasp to reach the future that generations before us
could only dream about, a land of peace, safety, harmony, opportunity,
innovation and achievement.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Right here in the Middle East.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
One of the things I think they could be most
exciting for us and also for China, is that we're
trying to open up China, because as you know, many
years ago, we opened up the USA. Now it's time
for China to open up.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And that's part of our.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Deal, and we're going to open up China at leaming
marvels of Rian and Abu Dhabi were not created by
the so called nation buildings and spend trillions and trillions
of dollars failing to develop a while Baghdad that the
birth of the modern Middle East has been brought by

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the people of the region themselves.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
The inflation was down, way down in the CPI report today,
and it was a year month April where we had
about twenty billion in tariffs. And the story that everybody's
been saying is all those tariffs are going to cause
prices to go way up.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And most importantly for the people in this room, the
days of economic misery under the last administration are rapidly
giving way to the greatest economy and the history of
the world.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
We are rock in the.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
United States is the hottest country with the exception of
your country. I have to say, right, I won't I'm
not going to take that on.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, Mohammed, I'm not going to take that on. I
would that be a terrible thing.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I I've made that full statement, but I will not
do it. Your hotter, at least as long as I'm
up here. You're hot.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
But tariff revenue was up at April, even though prices
were down, and so all of the things that people
were saying about Trump's policies that were hurtful are not
coming true because President Trup's right. He knows how to
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Speaker 10 (05:35):
Lots to cover today.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
I am we are so blessed to be here in Phoenix, Arizona,
while President Trump is barnstorm in the Middle East because
I can analyze and watch everything that's happening here. I
can look at it and think about it. Because President
Donald Trump is on quite a pace right now. Understand,
President Donald Trump flew all the way through the night.
He flew from Washington, d C. To Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 10 (05:59):
He rested for.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Ninety minutes at the local Ritz hotel, got back into
the motorcade, went to the Saudi Palace, met with officials,
world leaders, every CEO on the planet is there in
Saudi Arabia. And then President Trump had to go give
a long speech in front of all these people and
then go do a royal dinner. All in one day.
It's basically a forty hour day. And honestly, President Trump

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for him, that's nothing considering what he did during this
last election. What he did during that He did not
sleep the last three days during the last election, and
there were many days where he did not sleep at all.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
And again the easy contrast.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
But it's worthy to keep on mentioning and noticing the
last president could not do this.

Speaker 10 (06:40):
When Joe Biden went.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
To Saudi Arabia, he went and fistun bumped Muhammed bin
Salman and took a day and a half off before
the first meeting. You see, President Donald Trump is recalibrating
the world geopolitical order for the better. He's recalibrating the
Middle East to look to the west. As we mentioned yesterday,

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those three countries UAE, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, like them
or not like them. Understand Saudi Arabia was involved many
of them nine to eleven hijackers Qatar. A lot of
people are upset what they may or may not be
doing with Hamas and the palacey and authority. That's not
what this trip is about. This trip is about the
macro picture. Which way do we want these increasingly wealthy

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and powerful kingdoms to point. Do we want them to
point towards America and our value system, or do you
want them to point towards the Chinese Communist Party And
understand Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
He is being very smart and how he's sophisticating the
finances of Saudi Arabia. It's more than just oil, It's

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more than just petroleum. They have a remarkably ambitious sovereign
wealth fund. They've invested in artificial intelligence tremendously. The Saudi
Investment Fund very successful, and they are now investing in America,
which we want. Donald Trump is going to come home
with trillions of dollars of investment two the United States

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of America, trillions of dollars of investment in factories and
plants to our home country. But let's go a level deeper.
President Trump, by the way, just finished an amazing day
in Qatar, in Doha, where they announced they're going to
go buy nearly two hundred Boeing planes. Big deal for
American jobs. They're going to invest hundreds of billions of

(08:33):
dollars into America. But I want to analyze President Trump's
speech in Saudi Arabia. The typical speech that would be given.
If George W. Bush would have went there, or if
Barack Obama would have been a lot different, it would
have been finger wagging. It would have been we are
here to go reorganize the Middle East to our liking. Now, look,

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we've been very clear on this program. We're not a
fan of Mohammadism at all. We stand, for example, with
Israel against the barbarians that oppose civilization. But we also
know as a country we have limitations. We must have
the prudence to know that our own country has immediate
concerns and that going to the Middle East and shaming

(09:20):
Saudi Arabia would do us no good. Now, ironically, this
is what's so delicious about all this is that we
are going to Europe and shaming them, but we're not
going to Middle East and shaming their customs. And I
actually think it's very smart because Europe is not living
up to their own standard. They're not Europe is not
living up to the standard of free speech and democracy

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and the rule of law. They're raiding people's homes for
bad social media posts. A gentler touch, a more friendly
touch in the Middle East with these actors will make
the next Abraham Accords more likely will allow us to
ice out the malicious actors of Iran and Hamas in
the Middle East and will then turn that capital towards

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markets that we favor. And President Trump, he was in
rare Form yesterday giving a morally clear speech about how
we want the Middle East to be about technology, not terrorism.
We want the Middle East to be about investment and purpose.

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For years, our leaders put America last, and in the
process they caused untold destruction the Middle East. Just ask
the people of Iraq, or Syria or Libya what America
last meant for their countries. President Donald Trump to seventy
nine play it.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
So many decades of conflict. Finally, it is within our
grasp to reach the future that generations before us could
only dream about, a land of peace, safety, harmony, opportunity,
innovation and achievement right here in the Middle East.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
And let me also tell you the brilliance what President
Trump is doing. This is a long term American partnership book.
You might say, the lefties, they're so short sighted. Oh,
Saudi Arabia is gonna be irrelevant because we're transitioning away
from petroleum to green energy. First of all, how are
you gonna power all your AI data centers. How are
you gonna have chat, GPT and quantum computing with solar panels?

(11:24):
Do you understand the remarkable amount of energy it takes
to run just a singular AI data center. One conversation
with Chat GPT requires ten times more energy than a
simple Google search one. And more people are using AI
than ever before. So in fact, the Middle East is
going to be more important as to LNG petroleum based

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quick high combustible energy for the AI renaissance that we're
gonna be entering, but a level deeper than that. One
of the most important things, and President Trump knows this
is he's investing in the future, is that with the
Saudi's and the Kataris and the Emoradis. So you have
the Amir of Katar, you got Mohammed bin Salman, and
Saudi Arabia, and you got Mohammed ben Zayed in the
United Arab Emirates. Those are the three major actors. These

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are monarchies. These are not democracies. These are monarchies. They'll
be led by the same men twenty thirty, maybe fifty
years from now. If we forge strong relationships with them,
they could last a very long time, and some people say, oh, Charlie,
we shouldn't be cozying up to all these people. Time out.

(12:30):
What we want them to do is to grow closer
to deals like the Abraham Accords Western Values, because are
if we do not engage with this part of the world,
they will go to Beijing, and that will be bad
for the planet and bad for humanity. Presidental Trump touts
the investment. By the way, has the media been covering this?

(12:51):
I mean, I gotta look at though. I got Wall
Street Journal read it in a second. But the New
York Times in bold and President jumps ethical barriers.

Speaker 10 (12:59):
That's there.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Lead officer say, Gaza near starvation. Trump will lift sanctions
on devastated Syria.

Speaker 10 (13:06):
That is big. No, that's a big deal and he
should do that.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
By the way, but the amount of investment that President
Trump is announcing this is like a stimulus package.

Speaker 10 (13:15):
I want you to understand what's happening here.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
The amount of investment that President Trump is announcing is
the equivalent, if not more than, the big Obama stimulus.
Do you remember the Obama stimulus back in twenty ten,
two and nine, it was harrowed by the media, eight
hundred billion dollar stimulus, and we're gonna build bridges, and
we're gonna build roads, and we're gonna build solar panels.
President Donald Trump is coming back with a foreign stimulus

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in America, without an Act of Congress, without going into debt,
without borrowing, without having to mortgage future generations. Let's play
cut two seventy eight.

Speaker 11 (13:48):
Please.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
In addition to purchases of one hundred and forty two
billion dollars of American made military equipment by our great
Saudi partners, the largest ever this week, there are multi
billion dollar commercial deals with Amazon, Oracle, AMD They're all here, Uber, Quailcom,

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Johnson and Johnson, and many, many more.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
And I'm gonna build this out further because I know
a lot of people in Saudi Arabia right now.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
I know I'm in Riot, and i know the deals
that are.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Happening, and I'm getting kind of text messages about kind
of what's happening, and without going into some of those details,
because it's not that private. But what's really awesome is
what President Trump has done is he's created almost a
mini Olympics vibe. This is the place to be. If
you're not here, you're missing out. And all the deals
are happening within like this four day window.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
Boom.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Yes, I'll open up that plant and facility. Yes, i
will expand that AI data center in Sacramento.

Speaker 10 (14:45):
And what he's done is he's brought.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Everyone in the room, and the Chinese are iced out.

Speaker 10 (14:50):
They are iced out.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
What you are seeing is an optimistic economic olympics of
where all the power brokers of the economy are being
soft social pressured into investing in America. I'll explain more
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Incredible.

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I got asked by Democrats all the time, Charlie, why
did we lose the election? We want a country based
on content and merit. You are a perfect reminder why
we want to November. So thank you for That's the
American left in one picture. They are intolerant, they are mean,
they are ugly on the inside, and they are losing
and we are winning in this country.

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let me try my best to explain this. In business,

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so many deals are done in person, when there is
a sense of camaraderie. So much of business is actually
not just looking at numbers.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
It's vibe. As gen Z.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
There's a lot of gen Z lingo I don't like.
But the best gen Z word is aura. It's actually
a very good word. There is an aura to people.
There's a vibe, there's an energy, there is a feel.
And President Trump has completely changed the aura around America.

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And again, I'm peripherally here. I'm here in Phoenix. I'm
not in Saudi Arabia, but I know a lot of
people right in the front lines. They say, Charlie, the
business flow and the velocity towards America is unlike anything
we've ever seen. So what's happening in saud Abia? President
Trump is the power center of the planet. So President
Trump goes to Saudi Arabia and all of a sudden,
people fly in from Rome, from France, from Bangkok, from

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Kuala Lumpur, from Singapore, from the Philippines, they fly in
from Australia. Anyone that wants to deploy capital. All of
a sudden, they come and President Trump convenes them in
Saudi Arabia. There is probably a trillion dollars of new
investment coming to America that is not going to make
the New York Times that we don't even want to.

Speaker 10 (18:55):
Know that, we're not gonna know about.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Just okay, we'll do another one hundred million here, We'll
do another, you know, two hundred billion in two hundred
million year, we'll do a billion here, and.

Speaker 10 (19:02):
That adds up.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Someone's overall vibe, their energy or they're cool factor with
President Trump has is essentially a compliment, signifying that someone
is perceived as effortlessly stylish, confident, and swaft. That is
the definition of aura, and I think President Trump definitely
has it.

Speaker 10 (19:21):
You see, pre Trump.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
People just talked about America inevitably becoming more liberal and
just think about everyone was wearing masks and you had
to have social distancing. And Biden was so negative, and
our borders were open and we were being invaded, and
then we had the Russia Ukraine stuff, and we had
October seventh.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
It was just negative. Gut punch after gut punching.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
We're getting a little window into the convocation of the
power brokers of the planet. And President Trump intentionally and
sometimes unintentionally, just brings these people together. For example, if
you saw him with Muhammed bin Salmany yesterday on the
b roll camera, President Trump was talking to Patrick Sun Chiong,
who actually we're gonna have on the in June, whose

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multi billionaire medical innovator.

Speaker 10 (20:04):
He was talking to Sam Altman. Find what I'm.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Saying though, is that if you count all, I mean,
that's some great b roll. It wasn't just that he
was sitting down with Mohammed bin Salman and talking about
talking about hawks, which by the way, they're very big
into birds. There wasn't as they were talking about, you know,
what kind of birds that they're they're buying, or what
kind of planes. Now, this was a convocation of the

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power brokers of the planet, and they all drew that
to that, and deep down what they're saying is, man,
we don't want to we don't want to do business
the Chinese.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
You see that.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
That is the untold secret, The untold secret that none
of the financial elite here and I'm reading all these
ridiculous newspapers, is that deep down every one of these
business leaders prefers to do business in a free society
versus the Chinese Communist Party, and they've been wanting an
excuse to invest in this country. President Donald Trump's gravitational

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force is undeniable. They all want to be in President
Trump's orbit, and they have capital, and so there will
be now trillions of dollars a stimulus fund in coming
to America. But it's more than that. Understand the goodwill
that President Trump is building. Do you understand the enormity
of how seriously they take as a compliment for President
Trump early in his term to visit Katar, UAE and

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Saudi Arabia. That makes them as leaders look very very good.
That makes them as the emir look honored. It keeps
him popular with his people, It keeps him popular with
his sheikhs. That is the first US president ever to
visit Katar And honestly, good for him for doing it.
I know everyone has complaints, that's not what this is about. Okay,

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you got to think more macro here. This helps him domestically.
Katar is sitting on one of the largest LG reserves
on the planet. And now, by the way, if we
want to ice out Iran. We could pick up the
phone and the Kataris are very much now in our debt.
Would be on the debt to Kataris? Or would rather
the Kataris be in debt to us? Let's play cut
three forty please.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion
that it's our job to look into the souls of
foreign leaders and use US policy to dispense justice for
this sins. It is God's job to sit in judgment,
my job to defend America and to promote the fundamental

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interest of stability, prosperity, and peace.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
The Trump doctrine and by the way, I did write
the book the Maga Doctrine. People, I don't forget it,
but it was five years ago. It's still very applicable.
This is the Maga doctrine at play. The Maga doctrine
is an outstretched hand of friendship and then one hand
of a trillion dollar defense budget in the other hand,
it's carrot and stick to plomacy, while always resolutely putting

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America first. But the vibe of the business owners right
now remarkable. It is real and all the smart money
is coming back to this country. Mark Halprin joins us next.

Speaker 15 (23:17):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. President Trump is on the second leg of
his Middle East tour after touching down and Cutter earlier
this morning. He's already signed a joint agreement for Cutter
to buy more planes from the US based Boeing Company,
and later today he scheduled to participate in the state
dinner it cutters Lucile Palace. But away from the public eye,

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the President and Katari leaders spent several hours today talking
and negotiating in private.

Speaker 16 (23:47):
I think after signing these documents, we are going to
another level of relationship between Katai United States. So I
just wanted to thank you, mister President against for this
historic visit.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Thank you very much, sir well, thank you very much.
And this has been a very interesting couple of hours.
We discussed the world. We discussed Russia and Ukraine, where
you've been a tremendous help in so many different ways.
We certainly discussed around where it's been really an interesting situation.

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I have a feeling it's gonna work out. I think
it's gonna work. It's gonna work out one way or
the other. We know it's gonna work out.

Speaker 15 (24:26):
President Trump also making headlines this morning before arriving in
cutter by meeting with Sirious President. That meeting came less
than twenty four hours after the Commander in chief announced
cessation of sanctions against Syria and just into our newsroom
moments ago. The White House is out with more details
about President Trump's meeting with Syrian President Ahmad al Charra.

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Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says mister Trump urged Al Charrah
to diplomatically recognize Israel. He also encouraged him to quote
tell all foreign terrorists to leave Syria. Other challenges to
Syria's new regime would be to help the US stop
any resurgence of the Islamic State and to assume responsibility
for over a dozen detention centers that are holding some

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nine thousand suspected ISIS members. The prisons in question are
run by US backed and Kurdish led forces. Last month,
those groups agreed that all Syrian border crossings with the
Rock and Turkey, along with airports and oil fields in
the northeastern part of the country, would be brought under
the central government's control by the end of this year.

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That's a quick check off your headlines. As always, we
appreciate having you along for the ride. I'm Terrence Bates.
Now let's get you back to the Charlie Kirkshaw.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Charley Cook is a terrific person. He's mainstream conservative, but
solid is a rock shop.

Speaker 10 (26:05):
Okay, everybody, welcome back.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
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Speaker 17 (27:24):
I'm glad to be here and grateful to you for
coming on. Bill Clinton used to joke that he grew
up in Arkansas. The only way people could make money
was by taking everybody with taking each other's wash and
do everybody's laundry. So like, I like a world where
I'm on your show and you're on my own, and grateful.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
To you reciprocity, So you know there's some reciprocal here.
So you had a really powerful newsletter this morning. I
want to read from it because I thought it was
beautifully written. Trump's Tuesday speech in Saudi Arabia, you wrote
in your newsletter, which shockingly gets almost zero coverage in
the American media, was one for the ages, with some
observers not unreasonably calling it extraordinary and some support us

(28:00):
is one of the best and most important dresses by
US president many years.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
It warrants your time to watch it in full.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
If you have not to understand Trump's unusual and distinctive worldview,
mark why was it so unusual, distinctive, and arguably extraordinary.

Speaker 17 (28:13):
President Trump has a different attitude about national security, foreign policy,
in America's role in the world than the establishment presidents
who preceded him. There are bits of it that are
reagan Esque in terms of his philosophy, bits that maybe
like Bush forty one or Bush forty three, maybe a
little even like Dare say it Barack Obama or Bill Clinton.
But it's distinctive and it matches the aspirations of his movement,

(28:37):
which is what propelled him into office. I think that
that I call it as a bumper sticker. I call it,
speak loudly and carry a small stick, but a stick
that you'll use effectively. He doesn't want, he doesn't want
foreign entanglements, and he's you know, unlike his predecessors and
his successor, he did not put American troops on the

(28:58):
ground in mass numbers in a way that not just
imperil the lives and treasures of Americans, but America's credibility
around the world. I think he has a pretty keen
understanding of what's possible.

Speaker 11 (29:08):
And the MAGA movement.

Speaker 17 (29:10):
You know, they don't want to They want America to
be feared respected. They want America to be ready to
defend our national interests. But they don't want extended ground wars.
They don't want unwinnable entry to unwinnable conflicts, and they
want to partner with people in a way that makes
the lives of Americans and other countries better. I looked
at the speech yesterday as the kind of the Middle

(29:31):
East equivalent of the landmark speech Vice President Vance gave
in Europe, saying to these countries, like forget the past,
forget the status quo, forget the expectations that we've all
been locked into let's think a new about making the
planet better, even if we have to make some hard
choices or choices that offend some people. And that's not

(29:52):
what previous presidents said. And again it's a reflection of
the MAGA movement.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
And so you I'm sure you get this question a lot,
but you say here it's basically being ignored by the media.
Is that just typical? We hate Trump media bias. We
don't want to give him credit.

Speaker 11 (30:08):
Yeah, we talked about that on two Way this morning.

Speaker 17 (30:10):
Because I'll pat myself in the back. I'm a very
sophisticated student of the media and have how they cover
presidents and how they cover this president. It is always
the case that foreign trips don't get covered as much
as any White House thinks.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
It will or thinks so interesting. I wouldn't always the case.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
The time zones are the time zones are different. Right.

Speaker 17 (30:30):
The American people, it's quite clear, just aren't as interested
in foreign stories as they are stories at home.

Speaker 11 (30:35):
They don't see the relevance of it.

Speaker 17 (30:37):
So we get all caught up in the photo ops
and who's in the room. I thought that the photo
op of the receiving line that the President did. The
Saudi Leader was one of the most interesting pace of
television I've seen. I was spelled beat, but most people
don't care, so that's part of it. There's hostility to
covering anything that's favorable to Donald Trump, and I think
the trip's going well so.

Speaker 11 (30:54):
Far, but I'm baffled.

Speaker 17 (30:56):
I raised the question with my colleague Jean and Dan
on the morning meeting, like, I don't get why they're
solo covered. I woke up thinking it would be the
lead story in the New York Times, the Washington Post,
the Wall Street Journal. I thought they'd do a lot
of quoting of experts about what this means. But it
was cricket. Same on most of cable TV, most of
the news, you know, they're covering, you know, the various

(31:17):
trials and sports and other things. So I can't really
adequately explain it, although I will say this, it was
filled with news. It was filled with insight into how
President Trump sees the world, and I think for some
news organizations that's just a little too subtle.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
So yeah, but there's something more macro going on here
where President Trump is trying to recalibrate how America operates
in this region and he made no qualms about criticizing
and critiquing the foreign Republican orthodoxy, which goes to the
second element of your wonderful newsletter that I want to
highlight that all within a span of like forty eight hours,

(31:55):
President Donald Trump criticizes neo conservatism, which is just like
reckless warmongering, while also domestically signing a Favored Nations clause
for prescription drugs. This is not a Republican like we've
ever seen before. Kind of get us into the psychology
of the people around Trump, what's driving some of these decisions,

(32:20):
the worldview behind it, and just also if the media
even cared to just cover the profundity of it all.
I've never seen anything like this before.

Speaker 11 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 17 (32:31):
I think the main way to think about it is
if you said to Donald Trump, it's never been done
like that before, or Republicans have never done this before,
He'll say, great, not not the way some of these
advisors mean it, like, well, we've not done this before.
I'll say it was true in the Clinton White House too.
They had the same when they came in. Originally they
had the same outsider attitude and people in the establishment

(32:52):
White House press Corps and I was new to the
White House Press Corps. They'd say, the Clinton folks, well,
it's never been done like this, and the Clinton people
would say, good, good. And that's the attitude this administration has,
maybe even more so than in the first term, because
they know more they and they know the sands of
the hourglass are going by fast.

Speaker 11 (33:09):
I think that.

Speaker 17 (33:11):
This is arguably the biggest mistake the media makes about
covering Donald Trump, because they're constantly characterizing the things he's
for as red meat for the extreme magabase. He's generally
for popular things, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact,
you could argue that's what presidents and people in public
office should be. Presidents in the past have known the
American people think they pay way too much for prescription drugs,

(33:34):
sometimes a shocking price tag, but always higher than people
pay in other countries. And so President Trump, again the
details are not fletched out. It may not work, but
President Trump has had the courage, unlike his predecessors, to
say to big Pharma, sorry, times up. Times up for
you to charge Americans way more than anybody else, Times

(33:54):
up for you to use lobbying and campaign donations and
negative ads to intimidate politicians. If this were Barack Obama,
that story would have been covered like he was a hero,
and it was. But it's dramatic change. Same with the
Middle East. You know, Donald Trump is not afraid to
do new things, and he's not afraid to do things
and then change his mind again. The press and his

(34:16):
detractors characterized that as chaos and backing down and weakness
or lack of focus or planning. Donald Trump's fine to
say on Monday, you know what, I'm going to build
lemonade stands on every block. Every block is going to
have a lemonade stand built by the federal government. And
then he's fine to on Friday they say, yeah, you know,
we're not going to build lemonade stands because something's happened

(34:38):
in the interim that's made him say we don't need
lemonade stands built on every block by the government. He's
fine with that, and he and his people they don't
care if the press theater criticisms that and says, oh
my god, what a disaster this is.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
The trip will continue then through Qatar to United air Emirates.
You said something, I'm very smart where Trump has things
baked in and wins that we're ready to go based
on your reporting and your sourcing. Have we seen the
entirety of the baked and wins? And what are you
hearing about? A potential detoured is gunbul right?

Speaker 17 (35:14):
So on every president when you do it, when you
plan a foreign trip, you have what are called deliverables,
which are negotiated by the staff in advance because you
don't want to make it up on the fly and
you want to be able to say it was worth
the taxpayer's money, it's worth the president's time to go
on this trip because we've got these things. Most of
the deliverables we know are coming, and some have already

(35:34):
come from Saudi are investment commitments. Now, they're a little
nebulous to say what counts as an investment, and we've
seen in the past, particularly from this region, folks making
commitments that don't come through it that is legitimate. You're right, yeah,
So there'll be some of that and some of it
we'll be able to tell with a trained high's more
real than others.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
But there are other rumors.

Speaker 17 (35:55):
My prediction based just on body languages, maybe we'll see
Abraham accord to, Maybe we'll see a piece deal of
some sort between Saudi Arabia and Israel, even though the
President's not currently planning to go to Israel. So I
would be surprised if there weren't some additional deliverable that
is that is out of the blue, because Donald Trump
is a showman and he knows he needs to feed

(36:15):
the beast every day with some something interesting, and we've
seen that so far in the first day in Saudi.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
We'll see what comes in terms of going to Turkey.

Speaker 17 (36:23):
If Putin really goes, and I don't think he will,
and you know, we're twenty four hours away here or less.
But if Putin went, I think the President would be
tempted to go, and the Secret Service would find it
crazy and nuts, but to go.

Speaker 10 (36:34):
He'll say, come on, but yeah.

Speaker 17 (36:36):
But if Putin doesn't go, and I get out my senses,
Putin won't go. You know, he sent Secretary of Rubio
and some other senior officials. I think that'll be sufficient.
It does whether Putin goes or not. The drift of
this of the last ten days has been Putin is
the obstacle more than Celenzoski. And so the President's going
to have to figure out if Putin doesn't go with

(36:57):
Zelenski saying he'd go and the President urging that talks
to take place, even though they to get that, they
had to drop the precondition of a ceasefire before talks,
which is what what Zelenski has wanted. The US and
Europe have been supportive of. I think they we're going
to finally reach maybe not the last moment of truth,
but a pretty significant one where the President's going to

(37:17):
have to say Putin doesn't really seem to want to
actually end the war. Okay, if that's the case, if
we've reached that conclusion, what are our options? And the
options aren't great, But that's when the president will have
to say, and are we walking away or doing something?

Speaker 7 (37:32):
Well, that's it, and just one minute remaining, Mark, and
thank you for your time on this, which is I
think Putin is playing the domestic American political card because
I think he knows that the appetite for more American
funding for the war is at zero. So I think
that's his ace in the hole. Would you agree with
that analysis.

Speaker 17 (37:49):
I agree that he had reason to think that that's
where public opinion is, that's where the president has been.

Speaker 11 (37:57):
But it's going to be a moment of truth.

Speaker 17 (37:59):
Now, as you know, in the last couple of weeks,
the US has sent some additional military capability to Ukraine.
The Europeans might step in, and Putin might be surprised
that if Americans won't do it, the Europeans will.

Speaker 11 (38:11):
So I think it's complicated.

Speaker 17 (38:13):
But sanctions seem like a possibility, and maybe a combination
of sanctions and European military aid might might be used
to try to create a different condition. But there's no
doubt that the thing about Putin and she and net
and Yahoo and net. Yeah, who's in a different category.
But for the purpose of my what I'm about to say,
they're the same. They understand American politics really well, and

(38:35):
they now how to leverage the limits on any present,
including this one of public opinion, for what they can
do to try to deal with a thorny international problem.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
That's right, stay right there, Mark, we have you for
another segment. I want to dive into this idea. Will
Republicans vote to raise taxes on the wealthy? It's a
very interesting topic that I think you are uniquely positioned
to help us navigate.

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Speaker 7 (41:27):
Email us freedam at Charliekirk dot com. We're here with
Mark Alprin. Okay, Mark, So, do you think there's any
chance that the Republican Congress is going to agree to
raise taxes on the wealthy from thirty seven percent to
forty percent? It's in Trump's budget proposal? Mark, what's going
on here?

Speaker 17 (41:48):
Well, this is another thing that would be brilliant politics.
I think Steve Bannon thinks would be brilliant politics. He
tried to get Trump to do this in the first
term New Gingrich, who's also very smart and very influential
with the President, thinks it's a horrible idea, and Mostublicans
in Congress do.

Speaker 11 (42:01):
So I don't think it'll happen.

Speaker 18 (42:02):
You know.

Speaker 11 (42:04):
My view is an analyst.

Speaker 17 (42:05):
I'm not advocating either way, but as an analyst, there's
nothing magical about what the top rate should be, right,
what anybody's rate should do, whatever income bracket you're in.
So I get the Republicans kind of have a biblical
opposition to anybody's taxes ever going up. But there's two
strong arguments for it. One is it takes away the
Democrat's main argument, which Pole suggests has some effectiveness, that

(42:28):
the Republicans are trying to cut taxes for the wealthiest
to pay for you know, and to pay for cutting
but cutting sorry, cutting social programs to pay for tax
cuts for the wealthiest.

Speaker 11 (42:39):
And second, it makes.

Speaker 17 (42:41):
The math addup a lot easier for Republicans to come
in under the necessary budget of restraints to try to
do some deficit and debt reduction.

Speaker 11 (42:48):
So I think the.

Speaker 17 (42:49):
Stronger argument on the politics and the substance is to
is to let the top rate for the wealthiest rise,
but there's there's a lot of opposition to it. So
we've seen the President take pretty much every position for it,
against it, and then open to it if Republicans want
to do it, and that was his last public comment.
I don't think it's going to happen, but again I

(43:09):
agree with Steve Bannon, the politics of it seem obvious
to me. We're about to enter into major reconciliation negotiation mode.
You've covered these many times, what the President has now
put forward his official budget requests. There's going to be
all sorts of reconciliation meetings. What is a timeline you
think we can expect and what are one or two
elements of this reconciliation debate that you think the media

(43:32):
is missing that you have your eye on. Well, you
know this is boring to most people. It does affect
everybody's taxes and what the government will spend money on.
So it's important, but the process of it is not
that great. I will say, as an aside, one of
the I think undercovered brilliant Trump branding things is calling
it one big beautiful bill, because I think for most
people that seems more understandable than reconciliation. So I'd say

(43:56):
to delve a little bit into the process. Congress never
acts unless it absolutely has to, and sometimes not even then,
they need what's called a forcing mechanism. And we're still
waiting to find out exactly when the government will run
out of money where the dead sea lining has to
be raised. Another boring process thing, but one that's super powerful,
and I think an undercovered portion is the President and
the Speaker and the Senate leader have gotten their members

(44:18):
of Congress to agree Republicans are going to raise a
dead ceiling without getting Democratic votes because Democrats won't vote
for this big, beautiful bill as reconciliation bill. So that's
one thing is when is that deadline? Because until we
have that deadline, everybody's going to want to continue to
negotiate and bargain. And then second is you have to
please everybody. And there's some people like people who want
the so called Salt Satan local tax deduction changed, who

(44:42):
say they're absolutely not going to vote for it unless
they get exactly what they want. At some point, the
Speaker of the President and the Senate leader need to
get in a room with these folks or on the
phone with them and say this is as good as
it gets. We have slim majorities in both chambers. You
have to vote for it. So I think the question
is who are the hold auds who aren't going to
listen and you know at the front what they want
to be the final moment to that argument and really

(45:05):
are willing to take the country and the party over
a cliff. There are some going to be like that,
and we just don't know who those are yet. So
those are two things I'm watching. Is when's the actual deadline?
And which one which people amongst the thirty or so
in both chambers who say they are holdouts unless they
get exactly what they want, which ones actually have you know,
a part in the metaphor suicide vests strapped to their

(45:27):
bodies and are willing to pull the cord if they
don't get what they want.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
And closing here about a minute remaining. You are constantly
looking to see if the political gravity will apply to
President Trump. What one or two things are you keeping
your eye on that might, let's just say, make this
anti gravity machine known as the Trump decade long political
movement come back.

Speaker 11 (45:48):
Down to earth.

Speaker 17 (45:50):
Well next year would be the midterms, and whether he
can keep the majorities probably can keep the Senate. And
I'm more bullish on the House that a lot of people,
including some people in the White House, who are very
worried about using the majority there, and of course losing
the majority is everything because we're Democrats with the gavel
can do investigations and impeachment, etc. I think in the
shorter term, before November of twenty six, two things I'm watching.

(46:11):
One is can he can he not be hampered by
the Supreme Court. We still don't have any decisive decisions,
but a lot of the stuff he's doing now very dramatic,
very change oriented. The Supreme Court could strike it down
and that could be any range of things, and the
other courts too, but mostly the Supreme Court. So what
are the courts going to do? And then the other
thing is is passing this big bill. If this big

(46:32):
bill passes, it's a massive accomplishment.

Speaker 11 (46:35):
It achieves a lot of.

Speaker 17 (46:36):
The presidents domestic agenda, and you have to think about
the alternative. Although I do think it's likely to pass,
almost certain to pass, because failure is not an option politically.
If it does fail and they can't revive it, if
you can fail, and then they could revive it.

Speaker 11 (46:49):
That's a big crisis for the president.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
Mark Alpern is the editor in chief of Two Way
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I'll be a guest on that program tomorrow, so check
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Speaker 10 (46:57):
Mark, thanks so much. Email us Freedom at Treliekirk dot com.
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Speaker 15 (47:19):
Terrence Bates. President Trump is making headlines for his meeting
with Syrian President Ahmed al Sharrah. The two men in
Saudi Arabia this morning, before the US commander in chief
left for Cutter. Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt says mister
Trump urged Al Sharrah to diplomatically recognize Israel. He also

(47:40):
encouraged him to quote tell all foreign terrorists to leave Syria.
Other challenges to Syria's new regime will be to help
the US stop any resurgence of the Islamic State.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Did you find the Syrian president right right? I think
we're a good young, attractive guy, tough guy, you know,
a strong pass or a strong pass fighter.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
He's got a real shot at pulling it together.

Speaker 15 (48:09):
Another stipulation is that Syria assume responsibility for over a
dozen detention centers that are holding some nine thousand suspected
ISIS members. Those prisons in question are run by US
backed and Kurdish led forces. Last month, those groups agreed
that all Syrian border crossings with a Rock and Turkey,
along with airports and oil fields in the northeastern part

(48:31):
of Syria, would be brought under the central government's control.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
By the end of this year.

Speaker 15 (48:36):
President Trump is preparing for a state dinner and Cutter
right now. He immediately got down to business after landing
and signed a joint agreement for Cutter to buy more
planes from US based Boeing. The President and Katari officials
also spent several hours talking and negotiating in private today.

Speaker 16 (48:54):
another level of relationship between the Katai United States. So
I just wanted to thank you, mister President Against for
this historic visit.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Thank you very much, sir, well, thank you very much.
We certainly discussed around where. It's been really an interesting situation.

(49:28):
I have a feeling it's going to work out. I
think it's going to work. It's got to work out
one way or the other. We know it's going to
work out.

Speaker 15 (49:34):
Even during his trip to the Middle East, the President
is likely keeping a close eye on Capitol Hill. After
a marathon seventeen hour session, the House Ways and Means
Committee advances the top tax priorities in President Trump's One Big,
Beautiful spending Bill. The measure made it out of committee
on a party line twenty six to nineteen vote overnight

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into the early part of this morning. The tax bill
now heads to the House Budget Committee, which is tasked
with combining all portions of the spending plan in order
to bring it to the full House for a vote.
The tax portion of the bill makes the Trump tax
cuts from his first term permanent. It also implements campaign
promises like no tax on tips or overtime through twenty

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twenty eight. It would also temporarily increase the child tax credit.
While today's House Ways and Means Committee vote is a
big step forward, the overall funding bill still faces challenges,
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Okay, everybody, welcome back, email us as always freedom At
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the what is happening in South Africa is now impacting America.

(52:47):
We covered it extensively. We have a great guest here
who is the author of the book Kill the Bore,
and it is Ernest Roots, also the director of the
Pioneer Initiative and he comes to us live from South Africa.

Speaker 10 (53:02):
Earnt. Great to meet you, Thank you for taking the time.

Speaker 18 (53:05):
Well, Charlie, great to meet you too, and it's great
to be on this show. And thank you very much
for talking about this and for having me on the show.
Good to speak to you here from Pretoria.

Speaker 13 (53:13):
South Africa.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
So for our American audience that is largely initiated with
this topic, tell us about your book Kill the Boar,
and tell us about what is actually happening on the
ground in South Africa.

Speaker 13 (53:28):
So the book is entitled Kill the Boor.

Speaker 18 (53:30):
It was published in twenty eighteen, and the title was
chosen because that is also the title of a very
famous political chant in So Africa that I'm sure you've
seen and your viewers has seen that is becoming increasingly popular.

Speaker 13 (53:45):
A chant. It's not a song. It's a chant of.

Speaker 18 (53:47):
Which the lyrics are kill the boer, kill the farmers,
shoot to kill, kill a man. And the word bour,
of course refers to the africaner people. So it's an
ethnic or cultural community that is targeted. And the book
is well, it took me three years to write. It's
very extensively researched and the main argument, if I can summarize,
is that farm attacks. There are many problems crime phenomena

(54:11):
in South Africa, but the farm killings are very unique
for a variety of reasons. The one is the extreme
disproportionate rate at which farmers are being attacked and killed
in South Africa. The second is the extreme levels of brutality.
The worst torture is imaginable happening during these farm attacks.

Speaker 13 (54:29):
I can tell you about that if you want.

Speaker 18 (54:31):
The third is the unique role that farmers have to
play in South Africa in terms of providing food for
the nation, but also in terms of being employers and
employing people and so forth. And then the fourth reason
is just the fact that a crime phenomenon such as
this deserves a unique counter strategy because the farmers are

(54:52):
far away from police stations and so forth. But on
top of this, what we have is not just a
disproportionate and an extremely brutal crime, We have a crime
phenomenon here that is actively encouraged and romanticized by some
of the most senior and influential politicians in South Africa
chanting kill the burr from public platforms, then being protected

(55:15):
by the Constitutional Court, which is you could say, the
Supreme Court in South Africa, and then being protected by
the President who publicly denies that this problem is happening.

Speaker 13 (55:24):
And then on top of that we have now.

Speaker 18 (55:27):
This threat to property rights, with the ruling party, the
A and C, openly saying that they want to take
or confiscate property that belongs to white people and redistribute it.

Speaker 13 (55:38):
And then they call this EWC expropriation without compensation.

Speaker 18 (55:42):
And then they would try to convince us that that
targeting property rights and destroying the free market would somehow
be good for the economy as it would lead to
what they call black empowerment, which is just or transformation,
that's the other term, which is just the South African
term for DEI as we know it.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
I want to play that piece of tape as you mentioned,
so before I play it very quickly of them channing
kill the boar? Is this chanted on a regular basis?
Was this a one off piece of tape? And is
this kind of become a pseudo motto or mantra of
a political party? Before I play the tape, please answer
that question.

Speaker 13 (56:18):
Yes, it has become a regular thing.

Speaker 18 (56:20):
It was a time when it wasn't chanted that often,
and now it has become a new way of you
might say, targeting the bus and poking fun at the bus.

Speaker 10 (56:31):
Around at.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Let's play cut two sixty of a large political party
in South Africa chanting kill the boar play cut two sixty.

(56:59):
So explain and to our audience what we were watching there.

Speaker 18 (57:02):
So that is a political rally by a party called
the ironically called the Economic Freedom Fartist economic freedom Fighters,
proclaiming to fight for for economic freedom, when of course
it's nothing but a communist movement, very much philosophically influenced
by France for None and his justification of violence. And

(57:24):
this party is ideologically very much aligned with the ruling
party in South Africa, very close to them, even though
they are competing for votes. And this is what we
see here is a political chant that is always or
almost always, it follows on a political speech during which
the politicians speaking would speak about how, for example, and

(57:47):
this is a direct quote, all white people are criminals
and should be treated as such, and statements such as
if you see a beautiful piece.

Speaker 13 (57:54):
Of land, go and take it.

Speaker 18 (57:55):
It is yours, and statements such as we are going
to slip the three of whiteness.

Speaker 13 (58:01):
And I could just keep on mentioning examples.

Speaker 18 (58:02):
So it's this very provocative speech followed by the chanting
of kill debour.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
So then has that happened beyond the chanting beyond the rhetoric,
what has materially happened, Who has lost their life, who
has lost their property as a result of this outrageous
rallying cry and rhetoric.

Speaker 18 (58:21):
Well, let me firstly say the counter argument to concerns
about farm attacks is always yes, but there are other
crimes also in South Africa, gang related violence and so forth.

Speaker 13 (58:29):
And that is true. But what we have with the farmers.

Speaker 18 (58:32):
Being targeted in South Africa and killed is a complete
disproportionate targeting of this section of society.

Speaker 13 (58:39):
Because remember, there are very few farmers.

Speaker 18 (58:40):
There are about thirty thousand commercial farmers in South Africa
who are now being targeted, not just attacked and killed,
but as I mentioned, very brutally tortured in some cases
tortured for hours during these attacks.

Speaker 13 (58:55):
And what we also find in some of these attacks
are the.

Speaker 18 (58:58):
Attackers chanting political slogans such as kill the bour while
they torture their victims, making political statements, referencing certain politicians,
making some racist commentary and so forth. And in one
of the worst cases, it was an elderly two elderly women,
a mother and her daughter, who were both elderly, who
were severely tortured and killed on a farm and the

(59:21):
attackers actually went as far as taking the blood of
the victims and writing the words kill the bour on
a farmhouse. So it's really really alarming, and it's particularly
alarming to see the extent to which the media is
trying to downplay this.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
So yeah, not just the media downplaying it, but this
seems to be the opposite. They're saying that this isn't happening,
that this doesn't exist for our audience that is unfamiliar
with South Africa. This is your home, correct, this is
where you were raised, your ancestrally Dutch, I imagine if

(59:56):
I'm not mistaken, right and so, but they're trying to
drive you out of this country saying it's not yours.
What is your personal response to that contention.

Speaker 18 (01:00:06):
Yes, so we have been here since sixteen fifty two,
which is three hundred almost four hundred years ago. My
family has been the first roots of whom I directly
descent were lived at the time of George Washington. He
was a little bit older than George Washington, and that's

(01:00:30):
when he came to South Africa from Europe. The Africana
people descent from the predominantly from the Dutch, the French
and the Germans who came to South Africa during the
sixteen and seventeen hundreds. We became a people in South Africa.
We have our own language which we named after the continent. Afrikaans,
we called our own We named ourselves after the continent.

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We are the Africaners. We have a very unique, very
rich history. We have our own culture that we developed
here in the southern tip of the African continent. Civilizationally speaking,
you could say we are waste inness and we're very
proud of our waste in heritage. And we're actually the
last waste and outpost on the African continent. And we're
very proud to be in Africa and to have remained

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in Africa. And we are certainly committed to a future
here in the African continent. We are ancestors have faced
many existential crises over the centuries.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
I want to keep you for another segment in just
twenty seconds. Here, Ernest, please plug your book again for
our audience, and then we have another five minute segment.

Speaker 11 (01:01:30):
Thank you well.

Speaker 18 (01:01:30):
The book is Kill the Boor, and it is available
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Kirk dot com. Ernst Roots continues with us. So let
me ask you, author of Killdebore. Everyone should check it out.
This is getting largely ignored by Western media. And I
know this will sound like a silly question, but do
you feel safe in your own country being a white man?

Speaker 18 (01:05:03):
Well, well the answer to that is both both yes
and no. The reason why the answer is no is
because our community is very actively being being targeted by
the government.

Speaker 13 (01:05:15):
We have we know, I mean I can tell you
the names.

Speaker 18 (01:05:17):
Of people I know who have been attacked on farms
and even people who have been murdered. I myself have
been in an armed robbery. And on top of the violence,
we have more than one hundred and forty race laws
in this country aimed at targeting and discriminating against the
white minority.

Speaker 13 (01:05:32):
We have the retric we have the threat to take
confiscate property, and all of that. The reason why the answer.

Speaker 18 (01:05:39):
Is yes, that we do feel safe is because we
are a very well organized community and we and I
say feel safe perhaps in quotation marks, but to a
certain extent, the African people have gotten used to living
in Africa and to walking around where a firearm to

(01:06:00):
defend yourself if needs be. And you know, it's almost
like the wild waste. But perhaps South Africa is the
wild South and and but but the thing is, we
love this country so much that a lot of people,
I know, a lot of people want to leave, and
a lot of people would leave. But the overwhelming sentiment
here is that we really love this country. We love

(01:06:21):
this place, we love our history, we love our culture,
and we want to have a future, and we need
we need some form of an intervention to ensure that
we can remain here as our ancestors have done for
hundreds of years.

Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
And so the left will say this is all because
of apartheid and you white people deserve it, that you
guys deserve all of this, and you own too much property.
This feels as if this is going to reach a
simmering point, a breaking point. It's not sustainable. Your own
political leadership seems to be escalating this, not trying to

(01:06:55):
bring down the racial temperature. Am I correct in that diagnosis?

Speaker 13 (01:07:00):
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 18 (01:07:02):
It is reaching some form of a boiling point. So
in the nineteen nineties, when there were the negotiations for
a New South Africa, the President of South Africa, the
current President Saramapausa, was the chief negotiator for the ANC
and he was asked during a private meeting by a
member of one of the opposition parties, what is the

(01:07:24):
ANC's plan for dealing with white people in a so
called new South Africa, to which he responded that their
plan for dealing with whites is like boiling a frog alive.
You know that metaphor of the frog that is put
in the hot water, but the water isn't boiling temperature
at first. The temperature gradually increases up, ensuring that the

(01:07:45):
frog doesn't jump out, up until the point where the
frog eventually boils to death.

Speaker 13 (01:07:49):
And it's very.

Speaker 18 (01:07:49):
Alarming to see the extinct to which this is actually
actually what they have been doing since taking power in
nineteen ninety four. And so you mentioned the word unsustainable,
and that is the correct word. And so what we
need from a sort of macro political perspective is some
form of an intervention in the scenes that the political
system in South Africa has to change. It's South Africa

(01:08:10):
is in a certain sense a globalist project, and the
solution to this is self governance.

Speaker 13 (01:08:15):
We do not have self governance in this country.

Speaker 18 (01:08:17):
We are dominated by a race nationalist socialist movement and
they're obviously trying to convince us that their socialist ideas
would make the country a better place. They then blend
it with race nationalism, not even race nationalism, just racist nationalism.
And it's been so destructive to this country and this

(01:08:37):
needs to stop. We need a different political system for
the country altogether.

Speaker 10 (01:08:40):
Do you think that's possible.

Speaker 13 (01:08:43):
I think it's possible.

Speaker 18 (01:08:45):
I think it's not just possible, it's highly probable that
the system would change at some point because it's very
clear not just that it that it is failing, but
that it has failed, and that is it continues to fail.
And so that is what we are trying to do
with the Pioneer Initiative is raising awareness about the fact

(01:09:05):
that we do not simply have a choice between the
A and C government and the apotheid system. But there
are other political systems that one might consider, federalism being one,
but there are others as well, and there's going to
be a change, and what we need to do is
to be well organized and show window system changes. It
changes for the beta and not for the worst.

Speaker 10 (01:09:23):
Ernest, thank you so much again.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
Kill the Boor is the book we watch with horror,
and we are here to receive people that want to
leave South Africa. But simultaneously I have to give you
great compliment and admiration. The fact you want to fight
for your home is of great courage and of high
moral standing and amazing fortitude. I would never flee America,

(01:09:46):
and I don't fault people for fleeing South Africa because
I mean, look, if all of a sudden, your neighbors
farm and the farm down the street, all these people
are murdered. I mean, it's it's a toughie, but I
really respect that and I hope that you are successful.
The odds are stacked against you. The reason the odds
are stacked against you is because South Africa has embraced
the darkest way that you can govern, which is simply

(01:10:09):
tribalistic racial politics. It is the lowest of our human impulses,
and I pray you guys can rise above it and
actually care about people's character and their agency, not just
the color of their skin.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
Thank you so much, Ernest, Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
The COVID shot should not be on the childhood vaccination schedule.
Be right back.

Speaker 15 (01:10:33):
Terrence Bates. President Trump is on the second leg of
his Middle East tour after touching down and Cutter earlier
this morning. He's already signed a joint agreement for Cutter
to buy more planes from US based Boeing, and later
today he's scheduled to participate in the state dinner at
Cutter's Lusaille Palace. In fact, you can see that happening

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right now. This is a live picture of the President
there at the Lusille Palace area away from the public eye.
Though the President and Katari officials have spent several hours
today talking and negotiating.

Speaker 16 (01:11:09):
another level of relationship between Katari United States. So I
just wanted to thank you, mister President against for this
historic visit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Thank you very much, sir well, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
We certainly discussed around where it's been really an interesting situation.

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I have a feeling it's going to work out.

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I think it's gonna work.

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It's got to work out one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
We know it's going to work out.

Speaker 10 (01:11:48):
Again.

Speaker 15 (01:11:48):
Here's a live look at President Trump and Cutter right now.
A really long receiving line is formed as many of
the sheikhs and the other members there in Cutter are
lining up to meet President Trump and this sh take
his hand. Meantime, President Trump also making headlines after the headlines.
Excuse me, because before arriving here in Cutter he met

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with serious President. That meeting came less than twenty four
hours after the Commander in Chief announced cessation of scanctions
against Syria. Pennsylvania Democrat John Fetterman continues to face criticism
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Very exciting guest here looking forward to this conversation. Joining
us now is doctor kat Lindley from Family Medicine, mother
of five and school board member and senior Fellowship director
at the Independent Medical Alliance.

Speaker 10 (01:14:54):
Doctor Welcome to the program.

Speaker 20 (01:14:57):
Thank you for having me, Charlie. I'm really excited to
be with.

Speaker 10 (01:14:59):
You, so thank you for that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
And So the kind of the genesis of this conversation
was this clip I want to play it. It was
our conversation with the FDA Commissioner, doctor Marty McCarry, all
about the COVID shot and why is it still on
the childhood vaccination schedule. Fairness, Trump has only been president
for one hundred plus days. You've got to wait things,
you got to measure them. But I think it's time
for us to launch and push for this to be removed.

(01:15:26):
Let's play cut three forty seven place.

Speaker 13 (01:15:28):
Look, I'd love to.

Speaker 21 (01:15:29):
See the evidence to show that giving young healthy children
another COVID shot, you know, a sixth the COVID booster,
would help them. But that evidence does not exist. And
so we're not just going to rubber stamp things at
the FDA.

Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
And I don't think.

Speaker 21 (01:15:44):
You're going to see a push at the CDC to
be pushing COVID shots in young healthy children.

Speaker 10 (01:15:52):
That is something that's being discussed right now.

Speaker 21 (01:15:55):
I think you're going to see some announcement on that
in the coming weeks. But I know they are trying
to review all of the scientific data and there's no
good randomized control data that the current version, the latest
formulation of the COVID shot is necessary for young healthy children.
Other countries have already recommended against it. Other leading countries

(01:16:17):
in Europe have recommended against it for young healthy children.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
Doctor expand on that, please and make the case that
the COVID shot should not be on the childhood vaccination schedule.

Speaker 20 (01:16:31):
So doctor Mcer is correct, there's really no evidence to
have these COVID shots on children vaccine schedule, he said,
the current formulation, I would actually postulate that there never
was a case to give it to children because children
did really well during COVID. Also, so far, we had
nine and a half million children aged six months to

(01:16:53):
seventeen years who have received this COVID mRNA shot. But
what we've seen is six and twenty percent increase in
myocarditis among young men post vaccination processing, increased miscarried rates
even according to Pfizer's safety reports, and one studies showed
that there was a thirty two percent drop in successful

(01:17:15):
conception among vaccinated women. So really this campaign arose because
we felt very strongly while the administration is contemplating these things.
The ACIP, which is the Vaccine Advisory Committee, is going
to meet next week, we actually urge them to do
it now. And parents have been silenced for too long.
They've been intimidated when they go to pediatrician's offices and

(01:17:38):
told that our children have to give these get these shots.
In the meantime, we're seeing many injuries and many new
illnesses that we shouldn't be seeing in children. So our
ask is really simple. We're asking HHS and CDC to
remove them from the children vaccine schedule. But also pregnant
women because child in a womb, and we know that

(01:18:02):
these lipid nanoparticles that are transferring the material travel through
placenta and we don't want our children to have it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
So doctor, let make the case though, why the vaccination
schedule matters, because the counter argument be like, well, if
you don't want.

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):
It, just don't take it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
But the vaccination schedule involves immunity protections and also is
a standard for some public school admissions, for some summer camps,
for college admissions, they use the vaccination schedule as you
are not allowed to enter or participate unless you have
every one of these shots. It's not just a suggestion,

(01:18:41):
it actually is a criteria.

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
Please explain.

Speaker 20 (01:18:45):
Many experts have said that when the vaccine goes on
the vaccination schedule that's recommended by CDC, the vaccine manufacturer
gets indemnity so they cannot be sued. The other point
is there are still some states in particular states like California,
but they don't accept any kind of exemptions for vaccinations,

(01:19:07):
and you could have a family where the doctor pressures
them to have a child vaccinated, even for COVID. But
then also we think mandates are over they're not. Mandates
are still well in the health industry. So we have
nursing students, we have medical students that have to do
rotations where these mandates are still there, and some places
are still recommending COVID nineteen vaccine and they go back

(01:19:30):
to CDC's scheduleings as CDC recommends that you have it,
so you need to have it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:35):
So but doctor, I find it really hard to believe.
Are there really parents that still I guess so willingly
want to inoculate their kid against COVID with an experimental shot.
Why are they worried about their kid getting COVID in
the first place.

Speaker 20 (01:19:52):
Do you remember the story that recently came that there
were two children that were still locked down in their
home because the parents were afraid of what was happening
during COVID and they didn't want them to go out
in the public. So I would say, just based on
that story that you can imagine there are still parents
who believe that this is an issue, and there are

(01:20:15):
still pediatricians and doctors out there who are recommending them.

Speaker 7 (01:20:20):
I just I mean, it's just like that is so
mass propaganda. And is it fair to say, doctor, that
we do not know all of the multi decade now
health problems that some of these kids might carry for
no reason whatsoever.

Speaker 10 (01:20:35):
You know, what was the.

Speaker 20 (01:20:35):
Biggest problem with this whole vaccine issue when it was
even rolled out, the lie that's safe and effective. How
can anyone truthfully tell us that something is safe and
effective when we don't have long term studies. Even when
they came out with the I understand why people got
the vaccine in the first place, because there was lots
of fear. Everyone felt they're doing the right thing. But

(01:20:58):
whatever reason it was, but the fact that Pfizer and
our government CDC came up and kept on saying they're
safe and effective was always a scientific lie. When you
don't have long term safety data, you cannot say that.
You can say we think it is, we hope it is,
but you cannot say it is. So that's where we
are right now and what we are seeing, even according

(01:21:19):
to where's data. We're seeing many injuries, we're seeing many complications.
Some of us are treating patients with cardi issues, with
neurologic issues, with clothing issues, with many many issues. And
what is new that's on the market is this mr
Anda vaccine. So we are starting the campaign asking for

(01:21:40):
the mRNA COVID shot. But as far as I'm concerned,
I'm going to push even further. I believe that the
whole platform needs to be looked at. And I love
that doctor McCary is at FDA. I love the doctor J.
Patacharias at NIH. I'm hoping that the will give us
true studies that will give us long term safety data.
And if it's say, if and effective, let's have a conversation.

Speaker 10 (01:22:02):
But let's stop lying without a doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:22:05):
And just as a level deeper again, I've come from
a very simple first principle argument. Why do you have
to vaccinate against something that is not a serious threat
to your child? It's a wrong premise. Yes, so the
PREMI I mean, look new macaucl pneumonia. I get it, okay,
But if we're inoculating at something that is not even

(01:22:25):
a threat, then the entire argument of why the vaccine
is even offered is not a problem.

Speaker 10 (01:22:30):
Right with proper.

Speaker 7 (01:22:31):
Vitamin D supplementation, vitamin A supplementation movement, unless the kid
has serious underlying health conditions. Kids are not on moss
dying of COVID. In fact, I looked at the data
kids actually are dying more of the flu than.

Speaker 10 (01:22:47):
Of COVID this last season.

Speaker 7 (01:22:48):
You can look at the data kids of just the
seasonal flu kills kids every every single winter. We know
that after two mRNA shots, your immune system gets suppressed.
Is it fair to say that we might see other
kids unfortunately suffer with other non related COVID sicknesses and

(01:23:10):
ailments because their immune system would be suppressed because the
mRNA shot.

Speaker 20 (01:23:15):
Absolutely this seedon in particular, even just strap flu, it
was very virulent. Because the general state of immunity around
the country is low, so we are seeing many of
these viruses and even bacteria lasting longer, needing more treatment

(01:23:35):
and more kind of support because of the fact that
our overall immunity as a nation is probably down from
what has been happening. And you're right, you know, if
you just give your child proper nutrition, good sleep, exercise,
by the means, their immune system can handle a lot
more than our scan and the idea that we just

(01:23:57):
vaccinate our way through life like living in a bubble,
and that's not the way that we need to allow
our kids to live, because we are going to push
them towards living in fear and that's not what children need.
They need love, they need support, and they need us
to be parents. They need us to be their voice.

Speaker 7 (01:24:18):
Tell us about your advocacy that you are doing the
petition that you would like moms to sign. Please take
a minute and a half to build that out.

Speaker 20 (01:24:25):
Yes, So the campaign is really something that every parent
understands protecting your child. We're you know, we're kind of
done waiting on the sidelines for the Like I said,
I love what doctor Maker is doing. They keep them
saying we're contemplating, we're considering. We're just saying, just go
ahead and do it. There's really no scientific data to

(01:24:48):
support vaccinating our children ainst COVID nineteen. So we have
a campaign, Smart Moms Ask. It's a wwwim health dot
org backslash smart Moms Ask, and this is campaigned to
really empower moms, dads, parents when they go to their
physician offices to ask questions, to get truly informed consent

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and say why does no child need this at this time?
We're really going to push this beyond COVID nineteen because
we want parents to be able to feel the day
are in the driver's seat when it comes to their
children's health. I don't know if you know about this,
but there are some states they are saying that parents
are not going to have access to their children's charts

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when they start like twelve or thirteen years old. That's ludicrous,
because parents are the guardians of our children, the guardians
of their health, or their mental status, of their happiness.
We need to be able to work with our doctors,
with our teachers, and more importantly, we need to be
the voice for our kids always.

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and very popular. God willing it is the new Democrat
presidential poll for twenty twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
Eight drum roll.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
In third place is Jasmine Crockett, very impressive young woman
from Texas. In second place Bernard Sanders and crushing the
rest of the Democrat field as the leader of the
Democrat Party is Alexandria Becauzio Cortes. And if you add

(01:30:21):
Bernie Sanders plus AOC, that's nearly thirty eight percent of
the primary vote in the Democrat Party and my podcast partner,
I have to say I've done a great job here.
I take fractional credit for this a little bit. Gavin
Newsom at two percent, my podcast partner is not doing

(01:30:44):
very well. You see, if you want to win a
Democrat primary, not a great idea to talk to me
if you want to win a general election or try
to at two percent, Corey Booker Spartacus at four percent,
Hakeem the Dream, Jeffreys at five percent, Pete Boutta Jedge
at five.

Speaker 10 (01:30:59):
Percent, and this is the most shocking thing.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Kamala Harris, the former nominee, former vice president at six percent.
You see, Gavin Newsom thought they wanted a sane candidate
that could even question the men in female sports. Now
we have to be very clear. AOC she could build
a big movement of some young women. But bringing what

(01:31:23):
we've built on campuses, we will go up against AOC
on campus and will do very well. We will get
young men and I would say young women who want
to marry normal men in major numbers. And yes, AOC
will kind of get the permanent government dependent class. But
the Achilles heel alexandre Azio Quotees is number one.

Speaker 10 (01:31:45):
She's terrible on the trance stuff. Number two. Immigration, Remember
three point fifty.

Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
Three when she went and cried at the Ice detention
center at the border. She is an open borders zealot.
The country increasingly does not want mass migration. The last
election was a referendum on that and the Democrats severely lost.
So AOC being the potential Democrat candidate, don't discount her.

Speaker 10 (01:32:08):
It will be a battle, it will be a war.

Speaker 7 (01:32:10):
But I would much rather run up against AOC for
the presidency versus I mean, Gavin would be probably harder.
But none of these people scare me. Bernie Sanders is
probably going to hand off the torch to AOC.

Speaker 10 (01:32:24):
They'll be like a big thing.

Speaker 7 (01:32:26):
I Bernie, give the torch to Cortes. This is AOC
on the Newark, New Jersey. The future Democrat nominee Alexandria
Caso Cortes play cut one sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
If anyone's breaking the law in this situation, it's not
members of Congress. It's the Department of Homeland Security. It's
people like Tom Holman and Secretary Christy. No, you lay
a finger on someone on Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman on
represent and it is or any of the representatives that
were there, we are going to have a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
You want to know why young men are becoming more conservative.
They don't want to take orders from AOC, like that
whole thing, that whole vibe, the whole thing is, whatever
that is. I don't want you to be in any
sort of power over my life, Like we're not doing
that beyond let's just say whiny and irritating. So, just
to recap, AOC's in first place, Bernie Sanders in second place,

(01:33:31):
which means that AOC and Bernie could be well near
forty percent. Wow, Kamala Harris not doing well. Jasmine Crockett
who's also a radical, Hakeem the Dream five percent. This
is a very weak bench for those guys that are
going up against Jdvance. We are fortifying our base, We
are delivering results. Maybe Hilldog will run again, Hillary will

(01:33:55):
come back into the arena. But this is a real
twenty twenty eight Democrat primary poll. AOC the huge double
digit leader running for the presidency of the United States.
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