The Charlie Kirk Show, May 27, 2025

Commentary on the direction of the democrat party, men voters, David Hogg, racism, Florida, Medicaid, South Africa, and Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'll give you an update.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a
lot of people and I don't know what's happened to Foot.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
And I've known him a long time, always gotten along.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
With him, but he's sending rockets into cities and killing
people and I don't like it at all.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
We have a big deficit with them.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's time that we play the game the way I
know how to play the game.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
You know nobody.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
They've taken advantage of other people representing this country, and
they're not going to do that any longer.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
It's great that we're being a little bit more introspective.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
That's always helpful.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
But I think that the Democrats have forgot that maybe
we should just talk to people like people.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
We don't need to do studies on it, we don't
need to meet at hotels.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
How about we just go to community meetings and meet
people where they are on social media and there are
different forms and platforms that they are.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
But I think that we, just the.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Democrats have forgot how to talk to normal people about
things that are really important to them, like the economy.
So it's think a really good left then to learn.
But I also think we just need to get back
to basics.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
It would help if Congress passed the sanctions bill that
would be equipper in his arrow and give him leverage to.

Speaker 7 (01:19):
Go to Putin and.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Say, look, you got one last chance, so either you
come to the table or we're going to sanction it out.
If you're oil and gas, and I'm going to give
where you praying the weapons they need to let them
hit you in Russia?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Son, can a woman have a prostate and a.

Speaker 8 (01:31):
Woman have a prostate?

Speaker 9 (01:32):
Biologically speaking, a woman is an adult human female that
has a biological reality, but it's also social experience, right,
So like I.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Don't feel it's super easy. Like can a woman have
a prostate?

Speaker 8 (01:44):
So, as per my definition of woman, I would say
that people who have a prostate are biologically male, but
they can sometimes be socially treated as women.

Speaker 10 (01:52):
Okay, got it? So so women can have prostates?

Speaker 11 (01:55):
Get it?

Speaker 10 (01:55):
Okay, So you're a feminist that actually isn't just fight
for women, You're also fighting for men.

Speaker 12 (02:01):
Trump has been very political in what he wants out
of this, which is some sort of deal that lets
him say that he made peace, that lets him campaign
for the Nobel Peace Prize and barely trunk what he said.
He's obsessed with some sort of recognition that between the
deals he's making with Arab emirates, between whatever he can
do he can pull off in Russia, that he deserves
some credit for peace.

Speaker 13 (02:21):
Trump has skipped through the last few years all went
back to his first term really.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Playing pussy with Putin and thinking.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
That you know, he's going to somehow be able to charm.

Speaker 14 (02:32):
Him to his will.

Speaker 13 (02:35):
And I mean Putin is sadly far savvier than Donald Trump.
And Trump has has messed around and found.

Speaker 15 (02:44):
Out you have elected or help elect somebody who is
a best an idiot, and it was is deeply corrupt.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You are a culture warrior.

Speaker 15 (02:52):
I believe when everything is done, mister Kirk, people will
see you and the people you supported as corrupt, us
selling the country out to the lowest bidder and of
doing irreparable damage.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
To a country.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
I'm sure we all deep down love.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
The difference you will have to reckon with that difference
is when.

Speaker 10 (03:12):
The difference is, when we get our way, we'll still
have a country and your country will be a ferdial help.

Speaker 16 (03:27):
Raw.

Speaker 17 (03:29):
This is crazy based on my sources that I've talked to,
the President is extremely angry with Pootin right now because
he tried to do this the right way. Give Putin
an off, rimp, give him a reset, try to hear
him out on some of his concerns when it came
down to NATO, and Putin has essentially slapped his hand

(03:50):
and now he's going after the President publicly as well.
So all I can report is that yes, there may
be sanctions, but there could be more as well.

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Speaker 21 (05:20):
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Speaker 1 (05:21):
Here we go on.

Speaker 10 (05:24):
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Speaker 1 (05:26):
Happy Tuesday. We are back in the chair.

Speaker 10 (05:29):
We are here at the Bitcoin dot Com studio, your
gateway to democratized finance. I hope you guys had a
wonderful Memorial Day weekend. We have a big week in store.
I will be heading to the Imperial Capital later today.
We'll be doing our broadcast live from Washington, DC partially
this week. Major news this weekend. The Democrat Party is
telling us their plans. You see, the Democrat Party knows

(05:52):
that they are losing, specifically losing young men. We know
that in the twenty twenty four exit polls, they showed
that Trump won fifty four percent of men ages eighteen
to twenty nine, A twenty nine point shift from twenty
twenty to fifteen point. Biden lead, Let's go two twenty
three up on screen, just the presidential margins among men
by race and ethnicity. Men are moving to the right dramatically, dramatically.

(06:19):
You go of data shows that even in the United Kingdom,
where I just was visiting last week, thirty two percent
of UK men ages eighteen to twenty four voted reform
UK compared to sixteen percent of women, doubling right wing support. Globally,
we are seeing that young men are scoring at a
conservatism scale up nearly thirty percent versus twenty fourteen. So

(06:43):
what is going on here? When we've covered this extensively
where everything masculine is labeled toxic, young men are starting
to search for a place where manhood is still honored,
not pathologized, in a world that preaches weakness as vers virtu.
We are offering challenge, order and responsibility, and the men

(07:05):
of the West are listening. The New York Times published
a separate piece of data that is equally as interesting,
where the Democrats know that their problem runs deep and everywhere.
Show this up on screen, where almost the entire country
is moving to the right, except the suburbs of Atlanta
and the suburbs of Denver and parts of Virginia. Almost

(07:27):
everywhere is moving dramatically to the right. The country is
experiencing the course correction or the right wing revolution. As
I talked about in my book that I published last summer,
that is exactly what we want to see happen.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It is a seismic shift.

Speaker 10 (07:43):
Largely led by the men of the West that are
rejecting the current composition of the Democrat Party, and the
Democrats know it.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
This is cut to eighteen.

Speaker 10 (07:52):
MSNBC reports that The New York Times is saying Democrats
want to spend twenty million dollars to figure out how
to speak to young men. Is there a USAID grant
for that? There is USAID grant to make a Sesame
street for Iraqis a USAID grant for every wild thing?
Could they get a USAID grant to learn how to

(08:13):
speak to the civilization that we've never touched before. You know,
I feel as if this is a national geographic documentary
and now we venture into the wild to learn to
talk to a group of people largely forgotten. No, they're
not the Aborigines of Australia. They're not the island people

(08:34):
of Sri Lanka. They're not the incns or the former Mayans.
They are men half of the population of the country
we desire to govern.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Play cut to eighteen within the.

Speaker 22 (08:49):
Terms fast approaching and the full six months after November
is electoral drubbing. The Democratic Party appears to still be
in fact finding vote. The New York Times reports that
partying donors and strategists have been gathering at luxury hotels
to discuss how to win back working class voters, and
they're spending twenty million dollars on an effort to try

(09:09):
to figure out how to speak to young men. Quote
it is code named to SAM, short for Speaking with
American Men. A strategic plan and promises investment to study
the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality
in these spaces with the mid terms.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
The syntax, language, and content. So they hire a linguist
as if they're trying to decode ancient Sumerian. How did
we go so wrong talking to these people? You are
the problem. Everything you believe is the problem. Instead of
meeting at luxury hotels, if you want to see how

(09:49):
men actually think, maybe you should have went to the
Indy five hundred this last weekend on Memorial Day, or
maybe go on a hunting trip, maybe show up at
a football game, a show up to a tailgate and
ask the men of the West why are you voting Republican?
And they will tell you something that is not going
to show up in their data. You see, it's a vibe,

(10:10):
And honestly, I got to give our podcast, our.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Campus content some credit.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
Not all.

Speaker 10 (10:16):
The vibe is that if you embrace the Democrats, that
is like the weakest femeboy load testosterone thing imaginable. It's
not even that they love Republicans or love Conservatism. It's
just that it's such a sad shell and husk of
your former self. If you are going to become a

(10:36):
man voting on the Democrat side, is that you're going
to be constantly policing people's speech through the pronoun directives.
You're gonna be caring about race, hostilities and the mobilizing
of resentments. While the left offers therapy and safe spaces,
we on the right, we offer discipline, identity, and meaning.

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And men are craving meaning, men are suffering under Victor
Frankel's existential despair. But the Democrat stratus and donors meeting
at this luxury hotel are seeking a prognosis. As they're
meeting at the swanky hotels, they say they're going to

(11:23):
buy advertisements and video games among other things.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's it, We're done.

Speaker 10 (11:27):
If no one's ever thought to buy advertisements and video
games before, it's just never happened before. Above all, we
must shift from a moralizing tone. Oh maybe you're starting
to gather a little bit of self awareness. MSNBC is
fighting over whether this is a good idea of play
cut two o seven.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
It's great that we're being a little bit more introspective.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's always helpful.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
But I think that the Democrats have forgot that maybe
we should just talk.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
To people like people. We don't need to do studies
on it, we don't need to meet at hotels. How
about we just go to.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Community meetings and meet people where they are on social
media and there are different forms and platforms that they are.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
But I think that we, just the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Have forgot how to talk to normal people about things
that are really important to them, like the economy. So
it's a really good lesson to learn. But I also
think we just need to get back to basics.

Speaker 10 (12:16):
You see, Comedy Central, they dispatched one of their court jesters,
one of the clowns that they have on payroll there,
a guy by the name of Jordan Clapper, to go
talk to young men and say, why do you like
Charlie Kirk. Why tell me why? And I'm going to
make fun of him in my very funny way. You see,

(12:38):
he's so funny, I forgot to laugh. But this is
two twenty six of the National Geographic Reporter from Comedy
Central with just an elitist and smug and condescending and
just the pomposity just oozes from these guys.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And this is exactly why they're failing.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
Is yes, I'm very smart and funny.

Speaker 21 (12:58):
Do you know that?

Speaker 10 (12:58):
Right, He's like one of the last comedians that is
still on the left because the left does not believe
in freedom of speech. You cannot be in comedy and
not believe in freedom of speech, and therefore not want
to be on the right because free speech is not
a left wing value. So he goes and tries to
mock one of our fans when they're obviously acting in

(13:19):
good faith. Here is very funny man from Comedy Central
play cut to twenty six.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Makes Charlie kirk so effective on a campus like this.

Speaker 13 (13:26):
I just think it's all that the research he's done,
all the statistics that he has to back it up.

Speaker 23 (13:31):
For some students, he was the only one speaking to
their concerns.

Speaker 24 (13:35):
A couple of years ago, I just started finding more
people because I got so tired of this not being
able to speak my mind. So I needed to find
people that actually knew how to say things to a.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I'm forgidding the words. I'm sorry.

Speaker 16 (13:49):
You needed somebody to be more articulate for.

Speaker 24 (13:51):
You, Yes, because you see, let me like it. Right now,
I can't put words together, So.

Speaker 14 (13:56):
You're looking for somebody to put words in your mind.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
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Speaker 24 (13:59):
Well not like that exactly.

Speaker 14 (14:01):
I thought, well, that's what I was doing right there.

Speaker 16 (14:03):
Yes, what I'm talking about was what Charlie Kirkutta doesn't sound.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, yes, yes, he puts the words in your mind.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, making enough sense for me.

Speaker 24 (14:09):
So I memorize what he says that I can freely
say it to you exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Just so this guy is very funny.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
That's the same people that will say, Charlie, what are
you going to do to talk to college students. Here
he goes and selectively edits people that are trying to
find the words and say, you know, I like him
because of this and this, and he just tries to
brutalize them.

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Email us is always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com and
subscribe to the Charliekirkshow podcast page. So Democrats are trying
to figure out their way out of the wilderness, and
our goal is to keep them in the wilderness. It's
project keep Democrats in the wilderness. But honestly, I don't
have to do anything to keep them in the wilderness.
You see When I think of masculinity, I don't think

(17:48):
of a rock I don't think of Joe Rogan. I
don't think of the great Titans that built the West,
Julius Caesar. No, no, no, I think of David Hogg.
When I think of masculinity, I think of David Hogg.
What could be more masculine than this play cut two
twenty five Javnan.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Crockett Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing.

Speaker 25 (18:13):
I think that people want to see somebody who fights
and calls out the Ultimately, I think that's what Jasmine does,
and we need a lot more people that are out
there that are willing to do just that and call
people out on their ps and not say, oh my god,
Republicans are going to criticize me for saying this, screw that,
They're going to criticize you no matter what I think,
Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really

(18:34):
looking to support.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Where do I donate?

Speaker 10 (18:39):
I will actively raise money for Jasmine Crockett running for
the presidency.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I will be a bundler.

Speaker 10 (18:46):
I will be an official bundler for the Jasmine Crockett
twenty twenty eight campaign. I will call donors. We'll start
a super pack. If she runs a presidency, I think
turning point pack, which, by the way, we're allowed to do.
We could run ads in support of Jasmine Crockett. I
think we will do independent expenditure saying that she is

(19:06):
the fighter of the future. Let me look at this,
and when I think of masculinity, this is what I
think about. Let me look at this titan. Look at
that menace, that mountain of muscle. I mean, come on,
those biceps boom, the fierce look in his eyes. Outside
of the physical characteristics that make David Hogg indistinguishable than

(19:30):
a survivor from a concentration camp, the more important component
is that he never stands up for core values. He's
always pandering. I mean he's sitting there, he's talking to
the people around him and he's like, oh, yeah, you know,
Jasmine Crockett, She's the greatest, She's wonderful. Act like an

(19:54):
entire moral coward. To appeal to real alpha men, you
have to be an alpha man. And then remember, he
instantly got cowed by the accusations from the DNC that
he should have been removed because of racial quota. So
what does he do he goes on the Breakfast Club
and essentially endorses a black crazy woman because he's a

(20:15):
compliant little beta. It's exactly how you drive men away. Again,
I'm not necessarily an expert in this. All I know
is that we have been able to gain a major
audience of millions of people, men and women, but especially men.
And what we just did in Cambridge last week it
is one of the reasons why our audience just keeps

(20:35):
on growing. We go right into the lions Den, four
hundred people against me. I had three supporters, two of
them I paid, Blake and Mikey. Who are my payroll?
I think I had one fan out of four hundred,
and you just got to throw it down.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What are your best ideas?

Speaker 10 (20:51):
And even though the audience was completely against me and
opposed to me, that's what it's all about. Throw it down,
confront the mob. Stand for truth, don't pander go. I
went straight into one of the most rotten and corrupt
institutions of elitism, and the Democrats are increasing the party
of whining, censorship, lecturing, and social ostracizing. They're the people

(21:18):
that would send you, by the way to a detention
camp for saying something true. The Democrats are all about dependence, passivity, conformity, envy,
lack of personal responsibility, and lack of initiative. So the
Democrats are going to spend twenty million dollars, that's right,
trying to win over young men. They say here it

(21:42):
is the SAM Project speaking with American men because they
know that this is a major and glaring.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Issue and understand.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
The other good dynamic of this is that their hyper
race politics is breaking apart. The Democrat Party created a
race obsession over the last forty years, and now that
that is breaking, the divide in America is much much
in less white versus black, Praise God, because that means nothing,
and it's more about kind of male female. And I
don't want that divide, but at least that is a

(22:11):
divide that is rooted and characteristics that matter. Male female
distinctions absolutely matter. And you actually want to be the
political party that skews masculine. You know why, because masculine
men will get non crazy women to follow. Masculine men
will lead their family in that direction. Masculine men will
stand up with courage and with strength and with honor

(22:34):
against the injustices. I would much rather be the political
party that is masculine and male almost to a fault
than the one that is hyper feminine, the lighter touch.
But deep down, it's not just that feminism is weak. No, no, no,
it's that it's cruel. Feminism is not about helping women.

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It's about hating men. At its core, it's about scolding you.
It's about moralizing to you. We understand this, which is
why we are the ascendant political force in the West.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Senator Rick Scott joins us.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Next.

Speaker 26 (23:17):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. The Trump administration is facing a new lawsuit
this morning. Is National Public Radio and three of its
local stations are arguing that President Trump's executive order aimed
at cutting federal funding for the organization is illegal. They
also believe the order, which targets both NPR and PBS,

(23:38):
violates the First Amendment. Here's a quote from today's legal action.
It says the order's objectives could not be clear. The
order aims to punish NPR for the content of news
and other programming the president dislikes, and chill the free
exercise of First Amendment rights by NPR and individual public
radio stations. Across the country. The suit was filed in Washington,

(24:01):
d C's federal court today. The plaintiffs include NPR, Colorado
Public Radio, Aspen Public Radio, and KUTE Incorporated. While PBS
has also pushed back against the President's EO, the broadcaster
is not part of today's suit. However, experts expect the
public broadcaster to file its own separate legal action. Meantime,

(24:24):
President Trump says he's considering taking three billion dollars in
grant money previously set aside for scientific and engineering research
away from Harvard University. Instead, he'd like to give those
funds to trade schools. It's the latest chapter in the
ongoing standoff between the Trump administration and the Ivy League school.
Harvard has seen some three billion dollars in federal grants

(24:46):
frozen in recent weeks over concerns from the Trump administration
over how the university is operating. In return, Harvard has
sued to restore the funding, arguing that President Trump is
engaged in an unconstitutional attack on the university's free speech rights.
There's no word if the funds the Commander in Chief
is referring to are the already frozen grants or new

(25:08):
ones well folks America could soon have answers about who
left cocaine in the West Wing of the White House
during President Biden's time in office. We're also hoping to
find out who leaked the Supreme Court's draft opinion overturning
Roe v.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Wade.

Speaker 26 (25:24):
FBI Director or Deputy Director Dan Bongino says the FBI
will launch new investigations into both of those issues. Previous
investigations by the Secret Service and Supreme Court, respectively, have
not been or have been closed. Neither probe identify the
person responsible.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
Though.

Speaker 26 (25:40):
That's a quick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

Speaker 20 (25:56):
This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the
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Speaker 10 (27:41):
Joining us now is Senator Rick Scott the Great State
of Florida. Senator, I want to just begin by talking
about what's happening at the University of Florida. They potentially
could be hiring this left wing lunatic as president of UF.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
What's going on here?

Speaker 16 (27:55):
Well, I think for Florida education, it's pretty scary right
now talking about electing somebody that's clearly has said that
it made the very racist things about you know, original
student of the country is racism.

Speaker 14 (28:09):
He's been a big proponent of DEI.

Speaker 16 (28:11):
So what I've been asking is, okay, so let's do
a real investigation here, Let's get.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
All the facts out on the table. Let's take our
let's slow down, take our time.

Speaker 16 (28:20):
But the University of Florida trustees are voting today. Uh,
they're going to make a decision today. Now, after that
it has to go to the Board of Governor's center
is responsible for all the university system in Florida.

Speaker 14 (28:31):
So I'm hopeful at some point, you.

Speaker 16 (28:35):
Know, they'll they'll take this seriously and do a real investigation,
because what we don't want, we want we don't want
anti symmetism on our campuses. We don't want any campets,
the cabinets on our campus. We don't want somebody to
say that that, you know, we're all racist. And this guy,
you know, this guy at the University of Michigan allowed
in cabinets, allowed our Jewish students to be the Jewish

(28:56):
students there to be harassed, has said that the countries
of racist country.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
So I don't I don't get it. It doesn't make
any sense to me.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Well, and it's just we need to get these universities
in Florida back into alignment. It is they need to
be places of free speech and elevating the West. And
so the you hear the story, the headline here is
that you want the UF board to investigate the presidential pick.

(29:27):
I just who puts these people even in the positions,
and does the governor have the final say?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Well, the governor does have the final say.

Speaker 16 (29:35):
What happens is the board at the university gets to
pick them, and then and after that has to be
confirmed by the Board of Governors. It looks at all
the universities. But see it's look, it's a secret search.
It's not it's not in the public. These things need
to be in the public. Uh, the they need. He
needs to have conversations with all the students, with all

(29:57):
the facilory, with all the donors, with everybody in Florida
so he can answer questions. So we need to have
an open process. So, I mean, this is our flagship university.
I mean tell you I was government for eight years.
We put significant resources. I appointed people, these boards to
try to make sure we've become number one in higher education.
We did, and I just hope this doesn't take us backwards.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Let's just pull. I mean, there's so much here.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
This is Santa Ono, who could become the next president
of the University of Florida.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Play cut one fifty six.

Speaker 28 (30:27):
Racism is one of America's original sins, and the University
of Michigan has not been immune from participating in racism.
We have excluded and segregated individuals because of their race,
or their gender, ethnicity, religious faith, or sexual orientation.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
In doing so, if you think about.

Speaker 28 (30:52):
Them, we have robbed those individuals and our university in
our world of their incredible talents and potential.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
And then play cut one fifty eight.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
An Indigenous Strategic Plan and Climate action play cut one
fifty eight.

Speaker 23 (31:08):
We know that the Indigenous Strategic Plan is considered to
be sort of the standard globally. The Climate Action Plan
and our leadership of UC three the University Climate Change
Coalition is admired globally, and our recently completed Area Task
Force Report Anti Racism Inclusive Excellence is also considered to

(31:28):
be a standard that is emulated around the world. So
I'm really proud of what the university community has accomplished
during our time together.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
So Florida is becoming more and more Republican and more
common sense, and this guy might become.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
President in the center.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
It's outrageous, It's completely outrageous.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
And so how can without a thorough.

Speaker 16 (31:52):
Investigation, without completely understanding. Maybe you know, you could give
them of doubt something was taken out of context, but
you look at that, you listen to those takes, what
could be taken out of context. I mean, he thinks
we're racist down here, We're not. We believe in meritocracy.
We want you to get a job at the end.
You know, so we're not buying into all this DEI

(32:14):
stuff in Florida. But this guy clearly has all.

Speaker 10 (32:17):
Right, Senator, I would now want to shift gears to
the Big Beautiful Bill. Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Ram
Paul are threatening to not vote for it because they
say it does not cut enough spending. What is your
take on the current status of the Big Beautiful Bill's
passed the House? Will you be voting for it or
will you be advocating for some changes?

Speaker 14 (32:37):
Well, look, I.

Speaker 16 (32:37):
Think all the Ron Johnson and Brand Paul might lee
all of us. We want a bill to pass.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
We want a good bill.

Speaker 16 (32:44):
We want to build a securitsive order. We want President
Trump's agenda. We want to make sure plus up the military.
We want to make sure we all the DOGE. Opportunities
to reduce costs are part of this bill. And then
let's go to the exemp.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
We can but guess what regrets to increased the budget
by over.

Speaker 14 (33:01):
Fifty percent in the last five years.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
The House bill cuts us spending by less than.

Speaker 14 (33:06):
Two percent over the next ten years.

Speaker 16 (33:09):
It doesn't balance the budget doesn't been close to balance
in the budget. So there's a whole bunch of us.
We are going to fight like hell to balance this budget.
I mean, you know, so we've got to get rid of.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
The Green New Deal money. We've got to say, if.

Speaker 16 (33:25):
You don't want to work, why do you get free
health care paid by somebody else? Why do poor states
pay for the health care of the systems of richer states.
I mean, there's so many things that there's no common
sense here. So I think we're all going to fight
to make sure we pass a bill that puts us

(33:45):
in the process to balance the budget, and we can
balance the budget quickly.

Speaker 14 (33:49):
You balance your budget.

Speaker 16 (33:51):
Part of it's going to be through this reconciliation bill
with the mandatory part of it will be through the
budget process in September through discretionary spending.

Speaker 14 (33:58):
But we're going to get this done.

Speaker 10 (34:01):
So, Senator, would you say, without any changes at its
current composition, would you vote now?

Speaker 20 (34:07):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Absolutely, I vote no.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
This This bill doesn't have it.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Have it if there's if they brought to the floor
light right.

Speaker 16 (34:13):
Now, there's not there's not a chance they'll get the
the fifty one votes it it needs. So there's there's Look,
we all know we have to balance the budget. Look,
we know that it's getting harder to sell our treasuries.
We know interest rates are going up. We want to
get interest rates down. We get get it inflation under control.
That means balance a budget. Guess what I did it

(34:34):
every year I was governor. If you know, these states
supposedly balance their budgets. No, they bounce their budget by
doing the same thing the federal government does.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
They borrow money. I stopped that.

Speaker 16 (34:43):
I stopped the state borrowed more money every year, which
had been doing for forty years and had paid off
a third of the state debt while I was governed.
So that's what we ought to be doing at the
federal level. That's how we'll get interest rates dound. That's
how we'll get inflation on control. The poorest families in
the state, in this country are getting hurt by this
massive inflation caused by reckless government spending. We're spending too, Charlie,

(35:04):
two trillion dollars more then we take in, and we're taking.

Speaker 14 (35:09):
In employe of mind, it's not like we don't have
high enough taxes.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
We have way higher spending than we need.

Speaker 10 (35:16):
And so so Senator that that's that's a big statement,
and we want to see it pass. What can then
be done because our audience is like, wait a second,
I thought it passed the House. Are you saying that
the Senate can change it and then there's a reconciliation
between the House and the Senate.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, Charlie will change it.

Speaker 16 (35:33):
We'll have our own bill, and what'll happen is it
will go back through a conference or I'll just go back.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
To the House and they'll pass our bill.

Speaker 16 (35:39):
But I believe we're going to dramatically reduce mandatory spending
to get this budget balanced.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
In a short period of time, which is what we
have to do.

Speaker 16 (35:48):
It's what we promised. I just went through my election
just like President Trump did. We all promised we are
going to balance the budget. We are going to set
the process to quickly balancing this budget.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Senator, in closing here, let's talk about the great elements
of the bill, because there's a lot of good stuff
that I'm sure that you don't.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Want to gut.

Speaker 10 (36:05):
Energy independence one thousand dollars Trump account for every new baby,
boring drill, baby drill, border security ice agents, border patrol,
tax on remittances, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,
major middle class tax cut, and I'm just barely touching
the surface. We're starting to get to work requirements for Medicaid,
but it needs to be even more dramatic. We're peeling

(36:25):
a little bit back of the Inflation Reduction Act in
that nonsense of Biden. So we don't want to blow
up the entire bill. And I'm sure that is your perspective,
because what I just listed. What I just listed are
phenomenal wins. And if we can get serious spending cuts,
then we have a historic accomplishment.

Speaker 14 (36:41):
Senator, we will give historic spending cuts.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I believe in it.

Speaker 16 (36:46):
We've had great conversations in the Republican Senate about how
we can make sure just take Medicaid as example. Should
we be spending more money for able buying adults that
don't want to work or poor kids, which is the
purpose of the original Medicaid program. I watched my brother
not get health care when I.

Speaker 14 (37:03):
Was a kid because we didn't have Medicaid back then.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
But now guess what.

Speaker 16 (37:08):
The states have played the system right through provider taxes
and other things, so they spend way more money for
able body adults, and these poor kids are left out
in the cold, just like they were before Medicaid. So
let's get it back to its purpose. Take care of
the chronically old, take care of the disabled, take care
of the poor kids that can't afford health care. That's

(37:29):
what we should be doing, and that's what I'm going
to make sure happens with this senator.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
In closing here, what would be what is your block?

Speaker 10 (37:36):
I mean, Lee, Paul, all you guys together, what would
it look like to have a realistic win?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Because you're not going to get everything you want, that's politics.

Speaker 10 (37:44):
What would you say is the line of which you
say we are willing to compromise? What is the eighty
percent principle? What does that look like in practice? Forty
five seconds remaining, So.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Charlie, now, part of it will be through this build reconciliation.

Speaker 14 (37:59):
Part will be the budget.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
But we it looks like we'll collect five and a
half trillion dollars in the revenues this year.

Speaker 16 (38:05):
So this year we should not spend more than six
nap trillion, and then next year we're atchet down some
more and hopefully have our revenues come up more as
Trump rebuilds the economy.

Speaker 14 (38:16):
So over about three year period of time we should
be able to balance a budet.

Speaker 16 (38:18):
So our goal is to get the spending down to
about six napp trillion dollars, which is reasonable.

Speaker 10 (38:24):
Senator, thank you for your time and we'll be watching
very closely.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
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Let's play a piece of tape here. This is from
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Speaker 29 (40:15):
I agree that stable monogamist relationships often produce the best
outcomes of society. But if that structure really works for everyone,
why do we consistently see societies, once they become a
safer and more prosperous, move away from traditional monogamy.

Speaker 10 (40:30):
Okay, so the first one, the second law of thermodynamics
answers your question.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Is that it's the law of decay.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
Societies tend to decay against the roots that created them.
For example, as a side note here in this country,
you guys invented the idea of free speech. You brought
it to the world. You guys do not have free
speech in this country anymore. Thirty people a day are
arrested in the UK for inflammatory social media posts. It
is normal, unfortunately, for civilizations to get away from how

(40:57):
they once operated and how they once were. Prosperity leads
the degeneracy, for sure, and so once you are prosperous,
you tend to no longer have the moral guardrails or
the limitations. Let's just say, you no longer have delayed
gratification because you have instant gratification, because you have a
surplus of goods. And then you have a decline of
a transcendent moral order.

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here again. It's we have to praise President Trump at

(42:42):
his administration every time we get a win. And I
got to give this show some credit. We had on
this program dot doctor Marty McCarey, and we had doctor
Brett Weinstein well, people were not talking about this story
at all. It was kind of just in the in
the background, and people weren't really focusing on it. We
pull the slight and loving pressure on and we said,

(43:04):
why is it that the COVID shot is still being
recommended to healthy children and to pregnant women.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Now?

Speaker 10 (43:11):
I don't know if it's actually been removed from the
vaccination schedule. I think those are two technical different things.
I'm going to have to have somebody much smarter than
me help understand, help explain to me. But at the
very least, it is no longer being recommended. That means
pediatricians no longer have to recommend the COVID shot to
a healthy six month old baby. No longer for kids

(43:34):
or for pregnant women. Now, I don't quite know the
difference between it on the vaccination schedule and an official recommendation.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Someone can explain that to me other time.

Speaker 10 (43:43):
But let's play the announcement here. Let's play cut to
twenty eight.

Speaker 30 (43:48):
I couldn't be more pleased to announce that, as of today,
the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women
has been removed from the CDC recommended I mean as
a schedule. Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy children
to get yet another COVID shot, despite the lack of
any political data to support the repeat booster strategy in children.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
That ends today.

Speaker 10 (44:15):
I'm sorry, I got to take a pause here. I
hate the word democracy because it's overused and people don't
understand it, but it actually is an accurate term at
times for the will of people. We are a republic,
not a democracy. Can I just have a still image
of Bobby Kennedy on screen? Though, I want you to
stare at that. That right there is proof that our
small deed democratic institutions still work. The only reason why

(44:40):
Bobby Kennedy is there is because of the will of
the people. He's not there because of a pharma lobbyist.
He's not there because of Astra Zeneca Orfiser, Maderna Johnson
and Johnson. He's not there because of the Republican Conference.
I want you to soak in that for a second.
That should give you unbelievable hope. That should give you optimism,

(45:03):
That should give you satisfaction. President Donald Trump honored his
promise to him, and President Donald Trump knew the potency
and the power of the Maha movement. You want to
talk about a sleeper realignment in American politics, How Democrats
have opposed the Maha realignment. And President, of all the
coalitions that we brought together, the one that is holding

(45:25):
together the strongest.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Is Maha by far.

Speaker 10 (45:29):
And just so you know, this happened at the Turning
Point action event when Bobby Kennedy endorsed President Trump. A
year ago today, Bobby Kennedy was running for the presidency
as an independent. A year and a half ago today,
Bobby Kennedy was running for the presidency as a Democrat.
And now Bobby Kennedy is saying, Nope, the COVID shot
is no longer being recommended. If for that reason and

(45:51):
that reason alone, you should say praise God that President
Trump won back the White House. And I know it's
easy to get so into the weeds of complaining and
doomsdayg and blackpilling and dooming, but let's just just take
a pause and say, Wow, Bobby Kennedy is the head
of the AJHS and he is now going after the

(46:11):
COVID shot, flanked by Jay Botachara and doctor Martin McCarey.
And show that screen up one more time, do you
know what those three men all have in common. All
three of them, Jay Bartichara, Marty McCarey, and Bobby Kennedy.
All three were uniquely maligned and uniquely slandered during COVID.
They were uniquely censored, they were uniquely singled out. And

(46:36):
now they're running our public health departments and they get
the last laugh. And maybe now we need to keep
on investigating the efficacy of the COVID shot. Maybe get
that jab off the market altogether. I'll let other people
make that case. This was our ask and we got it.
No longer being recommended for healthy kids. Praise the Lord.

(46:58):
Second hour coming up.

Speaker 26 (47:14):
Tarrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break.
Thanks so much for being along for the ride. America
could soon get answers about who left cocaine in the
West Wing of the White House during President Biden's time
in office. We're also hoping to find out who leaked
the Supreme Court's draft opinion overturning gro V Wade. FBI
Deputy Director Dan Bongino says the FBI will launch new

(47:37):
investigations into both previous investigations by the Secret Service and
Supreme Court, respectively, have been closed, neither probe identified the
person responsible. Bongino also says more resources will be put
towards the FBI's investigations into pipe bombs that were placed
at the Democratic and Republican National Committee offices in Washington

(47:58):
back in twenty twenty one. Leading up to January sixth.
The Trump administration is facing a new lawsuit this morning.
Is National Public Radio and three of its local stations
are arguing that President Trump's executive order aimed at cutting
federal funding for the organization is illegal. They also believe
the order, which targets both NPR and PBS, violates the

(48:19):
First Amendment. Here's a quote from today's legal action. It
says the orders objectives could not be clearer. The order
aims to punish MPR for the content of news and
other programming the president dislikes, and show the free exercise
of First Amendment rights by NPR and individual public radio
stations across the country. The suit was filed in Washington,

(48:40):
d C's Federal court today. The plaints include NPR, Colorado
Public Radio, Aspen Public Radio, and KUTE Incorporated. While PBS
is also pushed back against the President's EO, the broadcaster
is not part of today's suit. However, experts do expect
the public broadcaster to file its own separate legal action.

(49:03):
President Trump is reportedly weighing new sanctions against Russia following
this weekend's massive attack on Ukraine. The aerial offensive is
said to be the largest of the war so far.
Taking to true social President Trump saying his Russian counterpart
Vladimir Putin has gone absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a
lot of people, and I don't know what the hell
happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always
gotten along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities
and killing people, and.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I don't like it at all.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Okay, we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting
rockets into Giev and other cities.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I don't like it at all.

Speaker 26 (49:43):
The Ukrainian Air Force says Russia launched three hundred and
fifty five drones and nine cruise missiles against Ukraine over
the weekend. Despite supposed peace talks between the two sides,
each is continuing to fight and launching attacks on the other.

Speaker 10 (49:58):
Well.

Speaker 26 (49:58):
It appears progress has been made with the European Union
after President Trump confirmed on Sunday that he plans to
delay implementation of a fifty percent tariff on goods from
the EU from June first until July ninth. The President
says the reprieve is meant to buy time for negotiations,
taking to true social earlier this morning forty seven, writing,

(50:19):
I'm in powered to set a deal for trade into
the United States if we are unable to make a
deal or are treated unfairly. I have just been informed
that the EU is called to quickly establish meeting dates.
This is a positive event, and I hope that they
will finally, like my same demand to China, open up

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the European nations for trade to the United States of America.
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Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always freedom At
Charliekirk dot com. What is going on in South Africa?
You see we've been covering by the way. We're here
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South Africa? But we're told by the media that it's
not happening. But it's good that it is. That we
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in South Africa they're doubling and tripling down on the
kill the Board chat. This is now becoming global and
international news. Joining us now is a very accomplished businessman
from South Africa, Robert Hearsov.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Robert, great to see you. Thank you for joining the show.

Speaker 10 (52:59):
Please introduce yourself and tell us what is happening in
South Africa.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Dollie, thanks for that.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
An honor to be on your show.

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So I'm a sixty four year old South African businessman,
fifth generation born in South Africa, spent thirty one years
of my life living in America, Europe, in the UK,
and I went back in twenty seventeen and in nineteen
ninety four the African National Congress the ANC got elected.
White minority rule ended.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
And we had democracy.

Speaker 11 (53:30):
And for the first fourteen years things went really well
under Nelson Mandela. But from two thousand and eight until today,
our country has gone backwards, has de industrialized, the economy
is falling apart, and the ANC government has been introducing
anti white racist laws, socialist policies, and have basically been

(53:56):
breaking and stealing the economy. And the reason they thought
they could get away with it is because we had
a miracle solution in nineteen ninety four with Nelson Mandela
and the whole world went, we've sold South Africa, let's
go look elsewhere. And the anti government has used that
as an excuse to bring in kliptocracy in actocracy and

(54:19):
break and steal the country. It is in very very
bad shape. And thank you Donald Trump and thank you
America for pointing it out.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
So let's get into the facts here.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
I am told by the American media that there is
no anti white, anti bore, anti farmer sentiment, that no
one is actually dying. What is the truth on the
ground in South Africa from the race politics that the
major South African political parties are demonstrating against South African

(54:51):
white farmers.

Speaker 11 (54:53):
Since nineteen ninety four, one hundred and fourteen one one
four anti white, anti colored, anti Indian colors are mixture
of black and white. One hundred and fourteen anti white,
colored and Indian race based laws have been introduced in
our country. One hundred and fourteen of them, there's black

(55:13):
economic empowerment, which every year gets extended not just from
companies doing business with the government, but now any company
over fifty people. There is an act that's gone been
signed into law called expropriation without Compensation.

Speaker 14 (55:30):
Just think about those words.

Speaker 11 (55:32):
Would you invest in a country that at a law
expropriation without compensation? Not just farms, banks, mines, the watch
for rest, but worse than that. There's an extreme left
party called the Economic Freedom Fighters. Think of the brown
Shirts in Germany in nineteen thirty three. These guys wear

(55:54):
red berets, one hundred thousand of them, jumping up and
down in a football stadium, shouting kill, kill the farmer,
one settler, one bullet, and that fellow you're showing on
the screen. Julius Malema in an interview said that they're
going to slit the throat of whiteness, but not yet.

(56:15):
And the media, the media, the mainstream media, try to
tell you, the American people, there isn't a problem. Donald
Trump used the word genocide. He said there's a genocide
taking place in South Africa. The media threw the hands
in the air and said there's no genocide. But genocide
isn't just extermination.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
There are ten elements to genocide.

Speaker 11 (56:37):
There's classification, persecution, organization, denial leading to extermination. And with
laws like expropriation without compensation and all the pieces being
put in place and these crazy guys with the red
hats jumping up and down, there is in process a
potential genocide. And if I may give one more important statistic,

(57:03):
there are so many farmers in South Africa that have
been attacked, murdered, and of those murdered, twenty percent have
been tortured and raped. If you take the number of
people murdered farmers murdered in South Africa as a percentage
of the thirty thousand commercial farmers, extrapolate that as a

(57:26):
pro rata number to the three million commercial farmers in
America from twenty twenty to today, two hundred and thirty
five thousand American farmers would have been killed. Holy grow,
And you told me there's nothing happening in South Africa that.

Speaker 10 (57:42):
I mean, that's that almost takes your breath away when
you think about that. Is it is it black people
that are going and hunting down white farmers and are
white farmers hunting down black people? Or because it would
be it would be a national news story. If white
farmers were going after black individuals, which way is it?

Speaker 11 (58:01):
Suchs not just white farmers, the black colored Indian farmers
being attacked to but the vast majority have been white farmers,
and it is black terrorists, people desperate for economic reasons
but also racially motivated. You don't torture someone unless there's

(58:22):
a hatred of some sort which is racial. And this
Julius Milennan is eff jumping up and dancing kill the
boor bour means farmer, one bullet, one settler is inciting
that sort of anger and horror that there are no
white people hunting down black people.

Speaker 7 (58:40):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
It is a one way street.

Speaker 10 (58:43):
So the entire world basically came to a standstill, and
we had massive civil unrest in America with the drug
overdose of George Floyd. And now we are seeing in
South Africa a pattern where you say, if you extrapolate
that to America, two hundred and thirty five thousand American farmers.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
But we're told that it's not happening.

Speaker 10 (59:02):
The media is insistent, how many of these white farmers
and these boers now want to come to America If
things were wonderful, then they would stay there. That is
the evidence that they own the land, their parents were there.
Yet how many of them want to actually now come
to America.

Speaker 11 (59:22):
So there have been thirteen generations of Africanas, and Africane
is a white African. There have been thirteen generations of
Africanas in South Africa. The first Dutch settlers, escaping persecution Huguenots,
came to the Cape in sixteen fifty two. I think
Mayflower was sixteen twenty.

Speaker 21 (59:42):
So if the white.

Speaker 11 (59:43):
Africans are going to get kicked out of Africa, I
mean you want to kick all the Americans out of America.
It makes no sense. We're African, we grew up there.
It's our country as much as anyone else's. So I
think there's not going to be a flood of refugees
to America because because the Africana South Africans have nowhere
to go. And you know, usually when the country's melting

(01:00:06):
down and you can see persecution taking place, it's usually
against the Jews, and the Jews leave. When the Jews
start leaving, you know, country's in trouble. But they've got
to they can go to Israel. The Africanas have got
nowhere to go. This South Africa is their land, it's
my land. Why should we leave? So what Donald Trump's done,

(01:00:26):
which is incredibly intelligent, to use the word genocide, which
the left hates. It's supposed to be their word they
can throw against other people, and genocide, even though extermination
is not happening, there is too many elements of it
being put in place where it could happen. So there
won't be a flood of refugees to America. But I must,

(01:00:48):
I must praise American Donald Trump fall mention the word genocide,
putting a spotlight on South Africa and offering people refugee
status because he's brought the world's spotlight onto the evil
that the ANC and the two hard left parties are
perpetuating on our country.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Robert, stay right there.

Speaker 10 (01:01:08):
When I was at Oxford last week, this came up repeatedly.
In fact, a young man we had a twenty minute
debate on this where he's like, you know, I don't
like the kill the boar thing, but we really should
take the land from the white farmer. And I finally
got him, and I can't wait for this video to
be published. I finally got him to say, let me understand,
under your moral worldview. You punish the grand kid for

(01:01:32):
the sins of a grandfather. I said, under what dimension
is that morally fair? This intergenerational sin. We're going to
take that up after the break, because that is what
it's core. Every toxic idea that has infected America is
on full display in the race politics of South Africa,

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What they are chanting in South Africa play cut one
eighty two. Just an entire stadium raving killed a boar

(01:05:09):
with gunshot noises. But Robert I am told by our
media we are lacking cultural context.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
What am I missing here?

Speaker 11 (01:05:17):
You're missing nothing. The left wing, the mainstream media believe
we deserved. We deserved. That's how sick the left is.
This is a terrifying situation. The economy is broken. A
million South Africans have emigrated, have left. The white population

(01:05:37):
of South Africa seven percent used to be twenty percent.
And listen to these statistics. Our unemployment rate is forty
percent and our youth unemployment rate is sixty percent. So
the ANC government has destroyed the economy, broken all the
state owned enterprises, and now after thirty one years, because

(01:05:59):
they've failed, what are they using as the excuse, colonialism, whiteness, apartheid,
And they're trying to do that to reclaim the ability
to steal from this country. But on the far left,
you have these guys, the economic freedom fighters who ought
to be jailed and if not jailed, sanctioned. And I'm

(01:06:20):
hoping Donald Trump's administration and it's very easy. There's a
list of two three hundred and forty eight names of people,
hate speech, criminality, anti Americanism that ought to be put
on those lists because we can't fix this country internally,
we can't shift the country to free markets, democracy, rule

(01:06:41):
of law. It's falling apart, and the West has looked
the other way. Britain and Europe have been pathetic thinking
soft diplomacy works, and America has been just as bad
until the arrival of Donald Trump. So we have one
chance only to say this country and unfortunately or fortunately

(01:07:01):
is coming from.

Speaker 10 (01:07:01):
You American left wing race hustlers are very quick to
try and distort what is happening in South Africa. Listen carefully,
this is the celebration parallax. As the Great Michael Anton
would say. It's not happening, but it's good that it is.
Play cut two three.

Speaker 13 (01:07:18):
And there is no confiscation of land. Half of South
Africa is white owned farms essentially, even though the white
population is only seven percent. What the government did do
that really caught Trump's eye this year was a measure
that would allow the government to take land without providing compensation.

Speaker 10 (01:07:39):
What there is in one clip he says there's no
confiscation of land. At the end, he says, there's a
measure that would take land without providing compensation. Talk about this, Yeah,
we'll talk about the ideology of resentment of race politics
that all of the kill the boor is a result

(01:07:59):
of the envy and the greed of the majority black
population that would much rather complain that white people own
land rather than trying to make something of their own lives.

Speaker 11 (01:08:10):
So here's an interesting thing, Charlie, which no one knows.
Eighty eight percent of South Africans are Christians, conservative and
they want the same thing. All South Africans and all
Americans want a better life, safety, security, basic services, an
opportunity for a job and dignity, and a better life

(01:08:31):
for their children. The vast majority of South Africans want that.
But it's the ruling party who are the gangsters who
want to stay in power yep, and who in a
malevolent and pernicious way want to keep people poor, homeless, hopeless,
unemployed and uneducated so that they can bribe them with

(01:08:55):
social grants. Twenty eight million South Africans twenty eight million
out of sixty survive on social grants. Our economies growing
at one percent or population growth at two percent. So
it's not the mass of South Africans that are anti whites,
or it's the government and these nasty two parties on

(01:09:19):
the left supported by America and the West's pathetic leftist.

Speaker 10 (01:09:24):
Media, Robert, and closing here, what would you say in
about thirty seconds is the call to action for America
to stand up against what's happening in South Africa.

Speaker 11 (01:09:36):
America, thank you for taking notice. We're going to keep
the spotlight on the bad guys and incredible congressman like
Ronnie Jackson are putting a bill into Congress and into
the Senate that would identify the individuals in South Africa
that are creating hate speech, anti Americanism, anti Semitism, and
destroying our economy. Sanction them, put them on the magnitsculas

(01:09:58):
SDN them. Pick on the individuals, but please try not
to pick on the country because our economies on its knees.

Speaker 14 (01:10:06):
Thank you, America.

Speaker 10 (01:10:08):
Robert, God bless you, and thank you for your courage
speaking out on this issue.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:10:15):
Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. What's going on
with putin?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Raheem Cassam discusses after the.

Speaker 31 (01:10:21):
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Speaker 26 (01:10:34):
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Jenkins was set to begin a ten year federal prison
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thanks to President Trump's last minute pardon. On Monday, the
former sheriff was convicted of bribery for accepting more than

(01:10:55):
seventy five thousand dollars in exchange for appointing campaign contributors
as auxiliary deputy sheriffs. Jurors found him guilty this past December,
saying that several people bribed him in the form of
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(01:11:17):
the bride payers were not trained or vetted and did
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announcing the pardon, President Trump calls Jenkins a victim of
overzealous Biden Department of Justice. President Trump reportedly weighing new
sanctions against Russia following this weekend's massive attack on Ukraine.

(01:11:38):
The aerial offensive is said to be the largest of
the war so far. Taking to true social President Trump
saying his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin has gone absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
He's killing a lot of people, and I don't know
what the hell happened to Putin.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I've known him a long time. I've always gotten along
with him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Nobody He's sending rockets in the cities and killing people,
and I don't like it at all. Okay, we're in
the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets and to
gibb and other cities.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I don't like it at all.

Speaker 26 (01:12:13):
The Ukrainian Air Force says Russia launched three hundred and
fifty five drones and nine cruise missiles against Ukraine over
the weekend. Despite supposed peace talks between the two sides,
each is continuing to fight and launching attacks on the other.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Well.

Speaker 26 (01:12:28):
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It's with great confusion that we are looking at what's
happening with Russia and Ukraine. President Donald Trump issued a
statement and also said on a press gaggle before boarding
Air Force One that he's not happy with Putin, saying
something has gone wrong with Putin, that Putin is launching
missiles into cities in the midst of peace negotiations.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
What's going on here?

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
Yeah, thanks Charlie, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 32 (01:15:11):
You know, a story that somehow became very close to
my heart since I was in the Madan Square during
the revolution in the latter days of twenty thirteen and
early twenty fourteen, and looking you know, down the pipeline
and everything.

Speaker 7 (01:15:25):
That could have happened there, you know, talking about the.

Speaker 32 (01:15:30):
Necessity really of a war, a hot war, given the
EU's expansionism, given NATO's expansionism. And obviously now we're talking
about Vladimir Putin, given his kind of this inability that
he finds himself.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
In now to row back from from this war. I
think we need to go back about ten days.

Speaker 32 (01:15:53):
I think it was when the Vice President was in
a gaggle on a plane with reporters and he said, look,
the problem with Putin, the problem Pootin has right now
is he doesn't actually know how to sell peace. He
doesn't actually know how to get out of this amongst
his own people. And those are you know, the people
are immediately around him, the general's, the oligarchs, but it's

(01:16:15):
also the Russian people. What does he take to the
Russian people now and say that he got, that he extracted,
that he won from all of this process. And increasingly
as we look at him aging, increasingly, as we look
at how he is considering this to be perhaps a
legacy that he didn't want a stalemate in Eastern Europe.

(01:16:36):
How does he sell a peace?

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Now?

Speaker 32 (01:16:38):
President Trump has tried, you know, peace for the sake
of peace. But now you can see that the tone
is shifting, and there are two tacks that he's taking.
They're very familiar to people who know President Trump. But
obviously it leaves the mainstream media scratching its heads because
they never listen to him anyway. So the two tacks
of this what we saw this week, which is the

(01:17:01):
volley fire of rhetoric to say, you know, hey, sharpen up,
we need you at the table.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
You need to be at the table. What have you done?
Lost your mind?

Speaker 32 (01:17:11):
And the other one is the carat right, which is
the economic exposure.

Speaker 7 (01:17:16):
Welcome back to the G eight. We'll have you all
the conferences. You know, we can move past this.

Speaker 32 (01:17:22):
We can invest in Russia and have Russia invest in
the Western world again.

Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
And that is something that we're seeing now.

Speaker 32 (01:17:30):
I guess in the last seven days that has now
become the tactic for the Trump administration. It's certainly been
a longer and a harder slug towards peace than I
think almost everyone had hoped. But we can still see
that there are weapons in the arsenal of peace here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
So I have several thoughts here.

Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
Number one, what is Russia and Putin's calculus here? Why
are they bombing cities in the midst of these peace negotiations?
And do you think Russia wants an end to this war?

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
I'll take the.

Speaker 32 (01:18:03):
Second question first, if you don't mind, I think yes,
and I think yes because the war hasn't extracted for
Russia on what it necessarily wanted.

Speaker 7 (01:18:12):
They didn't go far enough, I think they would say.
In the early days of the war.

Speaker 32 (01:18:18):
They failed to secure the capital, they failed to decapitate
the leader of the government there at the time, and
so this slow trudge hasn't really worked out the way
they wanted it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:29):
To work out.

Speaker 32 (01:18:30):
Look, I think when you look at the number of
lives lost, the amount of money it's cost, there's nothing
really that you can take back. And Zelenski has this
problem too, by the way, there's nothing really that either
of those leaders can take back to their public to say, ah, look,
we achieved this, that and the other for all of

(01:18:52):
this blood that's been shed, and for all the money
that we've spent on this, and for the livelihood.

Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
That you have lost in the time. Be it right?
There isn't that, And so.

Speaker 32 (01:19:05):
It's this weird logjam which brings me on to the
first part of your question, which is we are actually
probably at the most dangerous part of the war since
it started, because neither of these two men want to
give up any face. Neither of those two armies want
to be the first to be seen to back down.
But also they recognize that without bearing further teeth they

(01:19:29):
can expect no further concessions. My analysis of it is
there will be no further concessions. Where you land now
is where you land after any given peace deal. I
would counsel both of them to just get their pens
on paper.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
And so that's the first thing.

Speaker 10 (01:19:45):
So the second part is that is there any appetite
within the Trump White House or the broader let's say,
Republican coalition to continue sending armaments to Ukraine if Russia
wants to continue broker in this war.

Speaker 32 (01:20:03):
Yes, yes, there is, and an increasing one at that
as well. And I say that as somebody who fundamentally
opposed involvement from the outset I can see on Capitol Hill,
I can see within the defense establishment now them sort
of you know, even coming around to a more I
dare say, Biden esque approach to dealing with this thing,

(01:20:23):
which is throwing more money and resources after it. It's
not their preferred route right now. The preferred route right
now actually will see the fruits of in the next
couple of days.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
What's going to happen in the.

Speaker 32 (01:20:36):
Next couple of days is European nations are going to
decide and announce whether or not they're increasing their percentage
share of GDP into the NATO budget. Remember, it had
typically been two percent. Just about nobody was reaching that
in the first instance. Trump comes along in twenty sixteen,
about half of NATO members go okay, we're.

Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Gonna do it. About half of the half ended up
doing it.

Speaker 32 (01:21:01):
Now President Trump has been talking about upping that to
five percent, and the rumor mill is such that across
Europe a lot of these governments now are about to say,
you know what, Yes, it's high time we do this
and announce an increase to five percent GDP spending for defense.

Speaker 33 (01:21:19):
That will be it sounds it sounds like a bureaucraphic change.
It will actually be somewhat of a sea change, not
just for the way that Europeans regard their own defense spending,
but actually how external adversaries to Europe, especially Russia, perceive
European military capabilities.

Speaker 32 (01:21:39):
So that is coming in the next few days. We
think we'll see how that goes, because that could change
a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:21:46):
And so just kind of one final question then is
what if we then start sending more armaments to Ukraine.
How do we reconcile that with a lot of our position,
which is that we have no business in this war.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
We've said this for quite a while.

Speaker 10 (01:22:04):
I suppose Russia, if they're willing to keep on sacrificing
so many of their citizens, do they think they have
the West over the barrel because we don't have the
might or the fortitude to continue this war.

Speaker 7 (01:22:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:22:20):
Well, Unfortunately, the role of a global hegemon, whether whether
you like it, accept it or not, doesn't necessarily mean
you have a part of every war. But it certainly
means you have a part of every piece that is
negotiated around the world. I mean, whether it is India
and Pakistan, whether it is in Eastern Europe, people will

(01:22:41):
look to the global hegemon for guidance, leadership, and underwriting
of any peace deal that is put together. So I
take your point entirely. I feel exactly the same way.
I don't feel that even my country, the United Kingdom,
necessarily has a role to play in that war in

(01:23:02):
that climate. But we have to also remember that it
was a lot of European actors, a lot of American
actors that led Ukraine into a position where it had
no nuclear deterrent, led Ukraine into a position where it
thought it was going to be rolled the Red carp
out to join NATO and the European Union. And when

(01:23:22):
those promises didn't come true. When when and not that
I'm saying they should have come true, but necessarily when
they didn't come true, this war broke out as a result,
and you had a number of leaders that were replaced.

Speaker 7 (01:23:35):
There again European and American efforts.

Speaker 32 (01:23:38):
So, yeah, we don't want to be a part of this,
but unfortunately we're tidying up the messes made by the
Obama Biden administration and indeed the previous leadership of the
European Union.

Speaker 7 (01:23:51):
I think I said it.

Speaker 34 (01:23:53):
At the beginning of this administration back in back in January,
I said, look, if they don't have a peace settlement
on the cards by summer, something drastic is going to change.

Speaker 10 (01:24:05):
Yeah, And again the big fear here is how can
you broke her peace? If one of the sides do
not want peace and if Russia really does not want
to have peace and they're willing to keep on throwing
hundreds of thousands of their own young men as just
a meat grinder, then the question is what do we
in the West actually do? And reconciling that with the

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question of what is the domestic appetite in America? But
one minute remaining, Rahim, does Russia really want all of Ukraine?

Speaker 32 (01:24:41):
I think the prevailing consensus within Russia's military establishment and
political establishment I would say yes. I don't think public
sentiment in Russia tracts the same way. This is what
I mean when I talk about how you Putin is
looking at a legacy at this point. He knows he's
not going to be in power probably in five to
ten years time, and he probably knows that the country

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is going in a very different direction after he leaves office.
So can he bring the Russian people to him on
this issue? I don't think he can, in which case
I think he is literally just clinging on to a
losing battle.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Here now, stay here, Rahiim.

Speaker 10 (01:25:18):
This is a tough one because I think everyone in
this audience wants to see an end to this war.
We believe that the NATO expansionism and the saber rattling
from the West largely provoked Putin. Did not excuse it,
but it provoked him into invading. But now we're in
kind of the trenches of this where both sides have
become blinded by their own fanaticism, convinced that they need

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more land.

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As a way to save face. This is a toughie.

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Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Okay, so raheem.

Speaker 10 (01:29:40):
When I was in Cambridge, a professor came up and
was honestly on the pro Ukraine side, and he thought
it was laughable that CRIMEA would even be in contention
to be Russia's the fact, regardless sith that they've annexed it,
that Russian wine is from there, that the Russian navy
was headquartered from there. I mean a lot of different
aspects and elements to this is part of this also

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the West's fault for our inability to give any concessions
to Putin through this process.

Speaker 32 (01:30:10):
Yeah, I think that's probably a fair analysis of it. Look,
I think it's less of a fair analysis about the
the official class of negotiator. I think, actually, while they
probably won't want to tell you this, most things are
on the table to bring that war to an end,

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and we're discussed in the last segment, you know what
is on the table in terms of war making to
perhaps bring Putin to the table. But also you're right
to point out different areas of what were historically both
Ukraine and Russia over the last several decades being up

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for negotiation.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
The problem is not that the problem is exactly of
which you speak. It's the academic class, it's the op
ed writers, it's the media class. And what the Russian apparatus,
the Russian.

Speaker 32 (01:31:07):
Elites see day after day is all of this stuff
pedled out there to say, you know, even if you
do try and come to the table, we're not going
to let you have this, that and the other. Anyway,
we don't recognize you, we don't recognize Putin as the leader.
And actually none of that is coming out of officialdom.
It's all coming out of you know, the New York

(01:31:28):
Times and the Washington Post and these guys. And you know,
that's not to say that they can't have their opinions
on such things. That you have to understand media works
a very different way in some way like Russia that
it does in Midtown Manhattan. For a major publication that
is seen as you know, all the news that's fit

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to print in Russia, to be publishing things like that,
that would almost have to get a tacit wink and
a nod from the establishment to allow that to happen.
And a lot of them interpret what the media class,
of the academic class and the think tang class in
the United States as saying is with a nudge and
a wink from official and that is simply not the case.

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You can listen to all manner of podcasts and shows
and as I do, by the way, from across the
liberal elite sphere because I love to know what they're saying.

Speaker 7 (01:32:23):
It's usually you know, opinion driven.

Speaker 32 (01:32:27):
Nonsense, and you could be mistaken into thinking that this
was the view of the Pentagon or this is the
view of the Department of State.

Speaker 7 (01:32:38):
Because they say, well, you know, of course I've spoken
to some sources.

Speaker 32 (01:32:42):
Turns out some source was you know, an intern who
worked in a subsidiary department at State, you know, fifteen
hundred miles away somewhere, trying to trying to clout, chase
get or get their opinion taken. Seriously, coming back to
the to the to the point about about that. Look,

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the Russian mentality, as we know, for hundreds of years,
has has geared towards the idea of suffering, and especially
suffering for your for your nation, for your compatriots.

Speaker 7 (01:33:17):
This isn't new to them.

Speaker 32 (01:33:19):
They don't have a feeling like we do, of necessarily
like war weariness like we do. But they also don't
have democratic institutions like we do. They don't have their
voices represented at every level of government as we're supposed to,
by the way, they don't have their voices represented in
their media class as we're supposed to, by the way.

(01:33:42):
And so for them, there's this giant chasm between the
leadership right now, which are you know, I won't say
they're not searching for a way out, but they're searching
for a way out that saves them face and public will,
which is which is really not on the side of
continuing continuing this this.

Speaker 10 (01:34:00):
Check out the National Pulse dot com Raheem, thank you
so much, great analysis. I want to hear from you
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do you support sending more money and arms to Ukraine?

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
See you guys tomorrow.