The Charlie Kirk Show, May 6, 2025

Coverage of President Trump with Canada PM, commentary on Sen. Thom Tillis, Canada, energy, India, Matt Gaetz, military standards, and the republican and democrat parties. 

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now he is.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I don't believe he's being advanced to the march up,
and I've met with mister Martin.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Who seems like a good man. Most of my concerns
related to January sixth have indicated to the White House.
I wouldn't support his nomination. An economists say tariffs will
have a particularly negative impact on black households and small
businesses and communities of color.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
AOC may be more progressive than a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
I also understand that she's one of the most articulate,
exciting people.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
In the democratic fields.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
We're back with more DoD reforms. This one is general
and flag officer Jeans. That's the official title. My title
is less generals, more gis. I'm going to shift resources
from bloated headquarters elements to our warfighters. Used to be
a ratio of one general to six thousand troops. Today

(01:16):
it's one general to fourteen hundred. More generals and admirals
does not equal more success.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
This has been a.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Deliberated process, working with the Joint chiefs of Staff with
one goal maximizing strategic readiness and operational effectiveness by making
prudent reductions in the general and flag officer ranks.

Speaker 7 (01:37):
Breaking news coming out of Seattle, where dozens of demonstrators
against the Warren Gaza took over a building at the
University of Washington last night. They also blocked streets and
set fire to dumpsters. Now this is the most visible
protest of its kind so far this spring, following dozens
of protests on Canthuses a year ago. Police arrested more
than two dozen people. Among other things, traders demanded the

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school break its ties to the boring corporation because of
its military contracts, betide and genocide.

Speaker 8 (02:10):
Please where the free shut?

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Then? God did shut?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
The police subject to arrest again.

Speaker 9 (02:25):
It was by boss.

Speaker 10 (02:27):
Do not interfere with the adopt.

Speaker 11 (02:30):
The ball the police real.

Speaker 8 (02:33):
Job, every cop said, is a victory for the resistance.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Every IOWF soldier killed, is there a victory against colonialism?

Speaker 12 (02:46):
Why do I care what their status was when they
committed the crime. If you can prove they committed a crime,
I say in the book, if I get shot, if
I get murdered by an undocumented immigrant, please tell my
children I did not care that they were undocumented.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
I would say.

Speaker 13 (03:04):
If I had to run, it would be as a Democrat,
but I'm not happy with the Democratic Party. So the
Democratic Party has presently constructed it pretty much need to
be purged in order for me to assume that I
would want to be associated with them.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
To the American press is trying to see how it
hurts cartel members feelings when Donald Trump has accurately portrayed
them as foreign terrorist enemies of the United States. Hundreds
of thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands have been killed
by the fentanyl that these monsters have trafficked into our country.

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Alcatraz was built at a time when this country was
strong and it knew how to take care of villains
and monsters. There are people in this country, as President
Trump has said, who will do nothing with their lives.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
The rape, name and murder.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
They cannot be rehabilitated. We need a place in this
country where we can people.

Speaker 14 (04:00):
We spend about seventeen thousand dollars arresting, detaining, and deporting
an illegal alien right now today. If we have the
opportunity to purchase a plane ticket and send someone home
with a stipend like this, it saves us thousands and
thousands of dollars, and it also is a much safer situation.
If they wait until we arrest them and deport them,
they don't ever get the chance to come back to

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the United States.

Speaker 15 (04:21):
We lost, We lost a popular vote and we lost
the electoral vote.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
We got crushed, and.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
We need to be humble about that, and we need to.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Have some grace and we need to understand why.

Speaker 15 (04:31):
What was it because of the incumbency penalty?

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Was it because of inflation? Was it because of interest rates?
Was it because of immigration? Was it because we were.

Speaker 16 (04:39):
Too quote unquote will today is may fit and that
means Cicco Demaya Wolf, a holiday that celebrates Mexico's victory
over France, but something that Battle of puebl I should say.
But some communities have canceled or scaled back cultural events
because of President Trump's cracked down on illegal immigration and
the fear among many Latinos that they could be arrested.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Every day.

Speaker 15 (05:01):
There's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from
every angle, but the will to the sea fear not.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
You found the place for.

Speaker 15 (05:09):
Truth, the voice of a generation that still has the
will to believe in the greatest country in the history
of the world.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
This is the Charlie Kirk show fuck a lot. Here
we go on.

Speaker 9 (05:24):
All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is
your guest host for the day of his grands with Paulvet.
Honored to be with you from sea to shining Sea
across the Fruited Plain.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Charlie's on assignment today.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
He's going to be at San Francisco State doing a
big campus event up there, and it ties in kind
of to our first guest, which is Ari Hoffman. He's
the West Coast editor. We're gonna get started right right
off the bat here with guests. West Coast editor of
the Post Millennial is also a Seattle radio host Talk
Radio five seventy kbi. Ari, Welcome to the show. I

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wanted to get started with you really quick here. I
woke up this morning in.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Mi Alma Mater.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
I went to UDUB University of Washington Huskies was all
over the news.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Antifa taken over buildings.

Speaker 9 (06:13):
And why this relates to Charlie being at San Francisco
State University you might remember Ari and he's going to
be there with Riley Gaines, is that Riley Gaines did
a Turning Point USA event there a few years back,
got locked in a which she's basically taken hostage in
a room. These transagitators, I'm sure many of them friends

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with the Antifa crowd, trapped her in a room there
for hours. The police were feckless. They didn't do anything. Now,
explain to our audiences. Just getting caught up on what
on the news today, what happened in Seattle overnight, specifically
at the University of Washington Engineering building.

Speaker 17 (06:50):
I believe, Yeah, you wouldn't even recognize the place after
what happened last night, Andrews.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
So this is a brand new building they just built.

Speaker 11 (06:57):
Were interrupting this program for a special line.

Speaker 18 (07:00):
Report, interrupting your regularly scheduled programming to take you to
the White House in the Oval Office, where President Trump
is meeting with his Canadian counterpart.

Speaker 19 (07:08):
Here they are, I think I was probably the greatest
thing that happened to him, but I can't take they
were His party was losing by a lot and he
ended up winning.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
So I really want to congratulate it.

Speaker 19 (07:21):
Probably one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics,
maybe even greater than mine.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
But I want to just congratulate you. Rose a great election.

Speaker 19 (07:30):
Actually, we were watching it with interest, and I think
Canada chose a very talented person, a very good person.
As we spoke before the election quite a few times,
and it's an honor to have you at the White.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
House and the Oval Office.

Speaker 19 (07:43):
And you see the new and improved Oval Office as
it becomes more and more beautiful with love, you know,
we handle it with great love.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
And twenty four carried goal. That always helps too.

Speaker 19 (07:55):
But it's it's been a lot of fun going over
some of the the beautiful pictures that were stored in
the vaults that were for many many years, in some
cases over one hundred years. They were stored in vaults
of the great presidents who are almost great presidents, all
having a reason for being up, every one of them.

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So it's very interesting. But I just want to congratulate you.
And we're in a really great race. I watched the debate.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
I thought you were excellent, and I think we have
a lot of things in common. We have some tough
points to go over, and that'll be fine.

Speaker 19 (08:29):
We're going to also be discussing Ukraine Russia, the war
because Mark once it ended as quickly as I do,
I think it has to end.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
We had some very good news last night.

Speaker 19 (08:40):
The Huties have announced that they are not, or they've
announced to us at least that they don't want to
fight anymore. They just don't want to fight, and we
will honor that, and we will we will stop the
bombings and they have capitulated.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
But more importantly, they we will take their word.

Speaker 19 (09:03):
They say they will not be blowing up ships anymore,
and that's what the purpose of what we were doing.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
So that's just news. We just found out about that.
So I think that's very very positive.

Speaker 19 (09:15):
They were knocking out a lot of ships going, as
you know, sailing beautifully down the various seas. It wasn't
just a canal, it was a lot of other places.
And I will accept their word, and we are going
to stop the bombing of the Huti's effective immediately.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
And Marco, you'll let everybody know that. Okay, do you
have something to say about that. By the way, it's
pretty big announcement. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (09:43):
This was always a freedom of navigation size and so
you know, band of individuals with advanced weaponry that were
threatening global shipping and the job was to get that
to stop.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
And if it's going to stop, then we can stop.
And so it's I think it's an important development.

Speaker 21 (09:59):
And we'll have maybe before we want to as you
know the released in Saudi Arabia, We're going to Uee
and Qatar and that'll be I guess Monday night.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Some of you are coming with us.

Speaker 19 (10:11):
I think before then, we're gonna have a very very
big announcement to make, like as big as it gets.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
And I won't tell you on what, but it's gonna
be and it's very positive.

Speaker 19 (10:21):
I'd also I tell you if it was negative and positive,
I can't keep that up. It is really really positive.
And that announcement will be made either Thursday or Friday
or Monday before we leave.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
But it'll be one of the.

Speaker 19 (10:35):
Most important announcements that have been made in many years
about a certain subject, very important subject.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
So you'll all be here, Uh, Mark, would you like
to say a few words.

Speaker 11 (10:47):
Well, thank you, miss President.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
I'm on the edge of my.

Speaker 20 (10:49):
Seat, but thank you for your hospitality and a and
above all for your for your leadership. But you're you're
a transformational president. The focus on on the economy with
a relentless focus on the American worker. UH, securing your borders,
providing ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids, and.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
And securing the world.

Speaker 20 (11:12):
And I've been elected uh with with my colleagues here,
with the help of my colleagues here, I mean to
spread spread the credit, uh, to transform Canada with a
similar focus on the economy, securing our borders again on fentanyl, UH,
much greater focus on defense and security, securing the Arctic,
and developing the Artic And you know, the history of

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Canada and the US is we're stronger when we work together,
and there's many opportunities to work together.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
And I look forward.

Speaker 20 (11:40):
To, you know, addressing some of those issues that we have,
but also finding those areas of mutual cooperation so we.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Can go forward. Very nice, thank you very much, very
nice statement.

Speaker 19 (11:55):
Did No, it was actually very effective and it's still
very effective. But UH, people have to follow it, so
you know that's been a problem. Uh people haven't followed it.
But it's a it was a transitional step a little
bit and as you know it it terminates fairly shortly.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
It it gets renegotiated very shortly.

Speaker 19 (12:21):
But I thought it was a very positive uh step
from NAFTA and after was the worst trade deal in
the history of our country, probably in the history of
the world.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
And this was a transitional deal, and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 19 (12:35):
You know, well, we're gonna be start starting to possibly
renegotiate that if it's even necessary.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
I don't know that it's necessary anymore.

Speaker 19 (12:42):
But it served a very good purpose, and the biggest
purpose it served as we got rid of NAFTA. NAFTA
was a very unfair deal for the United States, a
very very terrible deal.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
It should have never been made. It was made many
years ago, but it should have never been made.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
In the United States.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I would I would love that.

Speaker 19 (13:04):
Look, I have a lot of respect for this man,
and I watched him, uh come up in a sense
through the ranks, uh when he wasn't given much of
a chance, and he did. He ran a really great campaign.
He did a really great debate. I think that debate
was very helpful. I was gonna raise my hand. You know,
I don't know if that's good at bet. I shouldn't
say that. That might that might hurt you.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
But uh no, he ran a really great election, I thought,
and yeah, something could happen, Something could happen.

Speaker 19 (13:32):
Yeah, please, you want out of Canada the top concession?

Speaker 6 (13:36):
You want concession?

Speaker 22 (13:37):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (13:38):
Uh, friendship, no, just I just We're gonna be friends
with Canada. Regardless of anything. We're gonna be friends with Canada.
Canada is a very special place. Uh to make I
know so many people that live in Canada.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
My parents had relatives that lived in Canada, my mother.

Speaker 19 (13:55):
In particular, and uh no, he I love Canada lot
of I have a lot of respect for the Canadians,
Wayne Gretzky. I mean, how good the great one. You
happen to have a very very good hockey player right
here on the capitals who I have a lot of
is he is a big tough cooking to just broke
the record, and he's a great guy.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
And you know, we had the we had the team
here and I got to know a lot of the players.

Speaker 19 (14:21):
But now, Canada is a very special place.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah, please a.

Speaker 10 (14:26):
President like you get your responses to the president.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
You have said that Canada should become a.

Speaker 19 (14:35):
No no, Well I still believe that. But but you
know it takes two to tango, right, But now I do.
I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax
cut for the Canadian citizens. Uh, you get free military,
you get tremendous medical cares and other things. There would
be a lot of advantages, but it would be it

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would be a massive tax cut, and it's also a
beautiful you know, it's a real estate developer.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
You know, I'm a real estate developer at heart. When
you get rid of that artificially.

Speaker 19 (15:05):
Drawing line, somebody drew that line many years ago like
a ruler, just a straight line right across that top
of the country. When you look at that beautiful formation
when it's together. I'm a very artistic person. But when
I looked at that beauty, I said, that's the way
it was meant to be. But you know, I just
I do feel it's much better for Canada. But we're

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not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to
discuss it. I think that there are tremendous benefits to
the Canadian citizens, tremendously lower taxes, free military which honestly,
we give you essentially anyway because we're.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Protecting Canada if you have had a problem.

Speaker 19 (15:43):
But I think, you know, it's it would really be
a wonderful marriage because it's it's two places.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
They get along very well. They like each other alone.

Speaker 20 (15:53):
Well, if i'm as you know from real estate, there
are some places that are never for sale we're sitting
in one right now, you know, Buckingham Palace you visited
as well, and having met with the owners of Canada
over the course of the campaign last several months, it's
not for sale, won't be for sale ever. But the

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opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together,
and we have done it in the past. And part
of that, as the President just said, is with respect
to our own security, and my government is committed for
a step change in our investment in Canadian security and
our partnership. And I'll say this as well, that the

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President has revitalized international security, revitalized NATO and us playing
our full weight in NATO, and that will be parted.

Speaker 19 (16:49):
I must say Canada is stepping up.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
The military participation because.

Speaker 19 (16:56):
Mark new you know, they were low and now they're
stepping it up, and that's a very important thing.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
But never say never, never say never of Canada. Well,
we'll be talking about different things.

Speaker 19 (17:14):
You know, we want to protect our automobile business and
so does Mark. But we want to protect we want
to make the automobiles and we want to you know,
we have a tremendous abundance of energy, more than any
country we have just in Alaska alone, and war has
been reopened now and was probably the largest find anywhere
in the world. They say it's larger than Saudi Arabia.

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I don't know, but it's a lot. But we have
tremendous amounts of energy. Other countries don't. We're both lucky
in that way. They have energy, We have energy. We
have more than we can ever use and more than
we could ever sell. Actually, and you have the same thing.
So we're two countries that are very lucky. If you
look at China, they don't have that. You know, it's
a big disadvantage other countries. Most countries don't have, you know,

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most countries don't have that. So Canada and US we
have a lot of a lot of advantages over other places.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
When when you consider what mister Carney just said that
Canada is not for sale, does this make the discussion
a little more difficult to start on?

Speaker 19 (18:15):
No time, time will tell. It's only time. But I
say never say never. I've had many, many things that
were not doable and they ended up being doable and
only doable in a very friendly way. But if it
if it's to everybody's benefit, you know, Canada loves US
and we love Canada.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
That's I think.

Speaker 19 (18:37):
The number one thing that's important. But we'll see, I mean,
over time, we'll see what.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Happens, something negotiations, something different.

Speaker 19 (18:55):
They want to meet, and they're doing no business right now.
And those ships are turning around in the Pacific Ocean.
Big turn, there's a big ships. Those ships take about
ten miles to turn.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
And you know, we.

Speaker 19 (19:08):
Lost a trillion dollars to China on trade because of
an incompetent president that we had who preceded me, grossly incompetent.
You're finding it out more and more now, and by
not trading, we're losing nothing.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
So we're saving a trillion dollars. It's a lot. But
they want to.

Speaker 19 (19:24):
Negotiate, and they want to have a meeting, and we'll
be meeting with them at the right time.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
I have not met with them, of course, you would know.
If I met, I'd tell you they want to meet.
But you know we are right now. Look, they're suffering greatly.

Speaker 19 (19:40):
Their economy is suffering greatly because they're not doing trade
with the US, and they made most of their money
off the US.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
Don't kid yourself.

Speaker 19 (19:47):
They don't make the money off other countries like this,
and they were making we had a trade in balance,
we had a deficit, or they had a surplus another
way of saying it of.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
More than a trillion dollar. Think of it more than
a trillion dollars.

Speaker 19 (20:03):
And because of one hundred and forty five percent, that's
the only reason.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
But because of.

Speaker 19 (20:06):
They have now one hundred and forty five percent, there
there's no trading. You can't trade with one hundred and
forty five percent. We are therefore making in a certain way.
I guess one point one trillion dollars. In other words,
we're not losing one point one trillion dollars. A deficit
is much better. When I started, I say we were

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losing billions of dollars a day on trade. That's rapidly
turning around. We looked at numbers this morning. So we
were losing. The United States during Biden was losing more
than I won't even give you numbers because they're so embarrassing,
but billions of dollars a day on trade. Those numbers
are rapidly turning. Between the tariffs, don't forget. We're now

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getting twenty five percent on cars, twenty five percent on aluminum,
twenty five percent on steel, and maybe more importantly, massive
numbers of companies are moving into the United States.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Honda, we have tremendous.

Speaker 19 (21:07):
The car companies that are moving in at levels we've
never seen before. The biggest investment ever made in the
United States is being made right now, trillions of dollars.
I would say we could be at nine nine trillion dollars.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
You could go back to other presidents.

Speaker 19 (21:24):
They haven't had one trillion dollars for their entire term.
Look at Biden, he had bed numbers. People are leaving.
They weren't coming in. They were leaving with Biden, and
he didn't know the difference. The only thing he knew
is people coming in. You know who they were, the
legal immigrants, okay, from prisons, from mental institutions, from all

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sorts of places that weren't good, from gangs, from Venezuela.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
They were coming in and there were criminals and murderers.

Speaker 19 (21:53):
Eleven eight hundred and eighty eight people that murdered, and
at least half of them murdered more than one person.
This is what Biden led into our country. I'm bringing
in big companies. We have Apple is investing five hundred
billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
We have Jensen, as you know, is going to be.

Speaker 19 (22:10):
Five hundred, biggest chip maker or chip thinker I call him.
He's really a thinker more than a maker. But we
also have the maker, mister Way. I get to know
them all. In the last it was a cram course.
But they're all moving into America because of the tariffs,
and I don't think people have appreciated it. Some people do,

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some of the smart people do. So we have more
money coming in. It's really an amazing thing. We have
more money being invested in the United States now than
at any time ever before in our history.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
And it's not even close. And I think the real
number could be nine or ten. Training we don't know
everybody that's doing it. We have many.

Speaker 19 (22:49):
I just heard about a plant that's being built right now,
very very top of the line company, and they didn't
come to the White House. They're just doing it because
they're making it because if.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
They build here, there are no tariffs.

Speaker 19 (23:01):
And this is the big market. This is the market
that sets us apart from it. This is the market
where everyone wants to be. Now, if I didn't come
here and do this all of a sudden, we wouldn't
be the market where everyone wants to be.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
So we're able to do it in time.

Speaker 19 (23:14):
But we're gonna have a great announcement, and I'm not
necessarily saying it's on trade going to the beginning. We're
gonna have a great announcement over the next few days,
an announcement that will be so so incredible, so positive,
and I'm not saying I don't want you to think
it's necessarily on trade. Just to finish. We also have
a situation because everyone says when, when, when are you

(23:36):
going to sign deals? We don't have to sign deals.
We could sign twenty five.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Deals right now, Howard, if we want it.

Speaker 19 (23:42):
We don't have to sign deal. They have to sign
deals with us. They want a piece of our market.
We don't want a piece of their market. We don't
care about their market. They want a piece of our market.
So we can just sit down and I'll do this
at some point over the next two weeks, and I'll
sit with Howard and Scott and with our great vice
president who has done a really good job. We have

(24:03):
some good news to report on a lot of fronts.
But JD will be there and Marco and we're going
to sit down and we're going to put very fair
numbers down and we're going to say here's what this
country what we want, and congratulations, we have a deal.
And they'll either say great and they'll start shopping, or
they'll say not good, we're not going to do any

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say that's okay, you don't have to shop now.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
We may think, well, they have a right, you know
that maybe we were.

Speaker 19 (24:31):
A little bit wrong, so we'll adjust it, and then
you people say, oh, it's so chaotic. No, we're flexible,
but we'll sit down and will at some point. In
some cases we'll sign some deals. It's much less important
than what I'm talking about. For the most part, we're
just going to put down a number and say this
is what you're going to pay to shop, and it's going.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
To be a very fair number.

Speaker 19 (24:51):
It'll be a low number. We're not looking to hurt countries.
We want to help countries. We want to be friendly
with countries. But you keep writing about deals, deals, When
are we going to sign one.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
It's very simple.

Speaker 19 (25:01):
We're going to say, in some cases, we want you
to open up your country. In some cases, we want
you to drop your tariffs. I mean India as an
example is one of the highest tariffs in the world.
We're not going to put up with that. And they've
agreed already to drop it. They'll drop it to nothing.
They've already agreed. They would have never done that for
anybody else but me. So we're going to put down

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some numbers, and we're going to say our country is
open for business, and they're going to come in and
they're going to pay for the privilege of being able
to shop.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
In the United States of America. It's very simple. It's
very simple.

Speaker 19 (25:38):
So I wish to keep you stop asking how many
deals are you timing this week, because one day we'll
come and we'll give you a hundred deals and they
don't have to sign.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
All they have to do is say, oh, we'll.

Speaker 19 (25:51):
Start sending our ships right now to pick up whatever
we want or to bring whatever we want. It's very
very simple, and I think my people haven't made it clear.
We will sign some deals, but much bigger than that
is we're going to put down the price that people
are going to have to pay to shop in the
United States. Think of us as a super luxury store,

(26:12):
a store that has the goods you're gonna come and
you're gonna pay a price, and we're gonna give you
a very good price. We're gonna make very good deals,
and in some cases we'll adjust. But that's where it is.
And we've been ripped off by everybody.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
For fifty years, for fifty years, and we're just not
gonna do that anymore.

Speaker 19 (26:33):
We can't do that, and we can't let any country
do that to us. We're just not gonna do it anymore.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Can you tell us a bit more about the deal
that you've reached the Hoosies.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
It's not a deal.

Speaker 19 (26:51):
They've said, please don't bomb us anymore, and we're not
gonna attack your ships.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
And where did you hear about that?

Speaker 19 (26:58):
It doesn't matter where I hear the very good source
I could, very very good source, would you say, Marco,
I would say, pretty good, right, j D, A very
good source. They don't want to be they don't want
to be they don't want to be bombed anymore.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
You know, sort of thought that would happen behind the place.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
The US to walk away from that packed or what
a U.

Speaker 19 (27:25):
S n C. A.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
No, no, no, it's fine. It's there, it's good. We
use it for certain things. It's there.

Speaker 19 (27:31):
We have the U s m C A is a
good deal for everybody. I won't say this about Mark,
but I didn't like his predecessor.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
I didn't like a person that worked. She was terrible.

Speaker 19 (27:41):
Actually, she was a terrible person, and she really hurt
that deal very badly because she tried to take advantage of.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
The deal and she didn't get away with it. You
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 19 (27:52):
But so, you know, I had a we had a
bad We had a bad relationship having to do with
the fact that we disagreed.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
With the way they viewed the deal, and we ended it.
You know, we ended that that relationship pretty much. The
USMC is great for all countries. It's good for all countries.
We do have a negotiation coming.

Speaker 19 (28:12):
Up over the next year or so to adjust it
or terminate it.

Speaker 20 (28:19):
I'll just say I'll say a word on us MT
if I make this president.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Uh, it is a basis.

Speaker 20 (28:23):
For a broader negotiation. Some things about it are going
to have to change. And part of the way you've
conducted these tariffs has taken advantage of existing aspects of
U s m C eight, So it's going to have
to change. There's other elements that have come and that's
part of what we're going.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
To discuss.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
During the campaign.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Parts talk about the American general.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
Kind of decided not to shop in the American.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Store as much as before, decided to partner with other countries.

Speaker 19 (28:56):
Well, we don't do much business with Canada from our standpoint.
They do a lot of business with us. We're at
like four percent, and usually those things don't last very long.
You know, we have great things, great product. The kind
of product we sell nobody else can sell, including military. Look,
we make the best military equipment in the world, and

(29:16):
Canada bise our military equipment, which we appreciate, but we
make the best military equipment in the world by far.
The missiles, the submarines, everything, everything we have is really
top notch. I rebuilt our military during our last term. Stupidly,
we gave some away to Afghanistan, which shouldn't have happened.
But that was I think it was the most embarrassing

(29:39):
moment in the history of our country.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
It was just a very incompetent people.

Speaker 19 (29:44):
But if you look the man that's now the head
of our Joint Chiefs, he led the attack on Isis
for me is the head of the Joint Chiefs and
raising Kine.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
He was unbelievable.

Speaker 19 (29:56):
And as you know, we defeated Isis in three weeks.
It was supposed to take five years. We did it
in three weeks. And he ran the campaign. I said,
I like him, but I knew him before I went.
I went to a rack and we agreed to a
plan and that was the plan, and as you know,
we did in record time. So we have you know,

(30:17):
we have the best, We have the best equipment in
the world. We have the best a lot of things,
and but Canada does a lot more business with us
than we do with Canada.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Your investments, mister president, when do you think the investments,
if you've announced a trillions will finally hit economic data
this year?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
When you're saying about the tariffs, no.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
No, about the investments that you've announced.

Speaker 19 (30:41):
You'und oh it's hitting right now. Look, they're already starting
AI plans. These are not people that look for financing.
That's a good thing. You know, in real estate, you
get a site and then you have to look for financing.
You have to get your zoning. You know, five years
later you start building.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
You get a bank. Then the bank's no good.

Speaker 19 (30:58):
These people have a massive amounts of cash. The Chips
Act was a ridiculous thing because that doesn't get them
to build. Though we did is nd very wealthy companies
money the Chips Act that was done by Biden billions.
We give them billions of dollarsand they don't even have
to do anything with it. And then if you weren't,

(31:18):
if you didn't have and I won't I don't want.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
To be a wise guy.

Speaker 19 (31:22):
But if you didn't go with the DEI, if you
didn't go with all of the different things woke, if
you weren't woke, you couldn't even use the money. You
had to have a certain percentage of this and that
and that and that. It's impossible, impossible to have the people.
The companies actually complained to me. They said, they gave
me all this money, but nobody can get these people

(31:42):
to do anything. I mean, look President Obama, and if
if you wanted help, I'd give him help because I'm
a really good builder and I built on time, on budget.
He's building his library in Chicago. It's a disaster. And
he said something to the effect, I only want, I
only want. He wants woke people to build it. Well,

(32:04):
he got woke people and they have massive cost over runs,
a job as stopped.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (32:10):
It's a disaster, and I don't like that happening because
it's I think it's bad for the presidency that a
thing like that should happen. He's got a library that's
a disaster, and he wanted to be very politically correct,
and he didn't use good, hard, tough, mean construction workers
that I love, Marco. I loved those construction workers. But

(32:30):
he didn't want construction workers. He wanted people that never
did it before. And he's got a disaster in his hands,
like millions of dollars many many, I mean really many
millions of dollars over a budget. And I would love
to help him with it, but or somebody else, I
could recommend professionals. But it was not built in a
professional by the way, nor was nor was in California

(32:58):
a little train going from San Francisco to Los Angeles
that's being run by Gavin Newscomb, the governor of California.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Did you ever hear of Gavin Newscomb?

Speaker 19 (33:09):
He has got that train is the worst cost overrun
I've ever seen. It's like totally out of control. So
then they said, all right, we won't go into San Francisco.
We'll stop twenty five miles short, and we won't go
into Los Angeles. We'll stop twenty five miles short. It's
hundreds of billions of dollars for this stupid project that

(33:30):
should have never been built. And then they realized that
it would have been a lot less costly if we
just gave limousine service back and forth and gave it free.
They would have saved hundreds of billions of dollars. They
have airplanes that go there for one to one hundredth
the cost, and they have cars. They have a thing
called the Highway that goes back and forth. It's not
fully utilized. And they got involved with this project and

(33:52):
Gavin on Fold. You know, I always liked Gavin, had
a good relationship with him.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
I just got him a lot of water, you know.

Speaker 19 (33:59):
I sent ten people to open up that water because
he refused to do it, and we just kind of
a lot of would if they would have had that water,
and if they would have done what I said to do,
they wouldn't have the fires in Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Those fires would have been put out very quickly. But
if you think about it, and you've got.

Speaker 19 (34:15):
To take a look at this problem. It's the worst
cost over and I've ever seen. I've watched a lot
of stupid people build a lot of stupid things, but
that's the worst cost over and I've ever seen what's
happening between San Francisco and Los Angeles. And you want
to ask about that because this government is not going
to pay I told our very great new Secretary of
transportation's doing a good job, Sean Duffy. I said, we're

(34:39):
not going to pay for that thing. They are just
it's out of control. This is something that you don't
have things like this. It's not even conceivable, like thirty
times over a budget thirty times. It's the craziest thing,
and now it's hundreds of It was supposed to be
a simple train, and I think the media should take
a look at it.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
And I'd love him.

Speaker 19 (35:01):
To run for president on the other side, you know,
I'd love to see that, but I don't think he's
going to be running because that one project alone, well,
that and the fires and a lot of other things
pretty much put him out of the room.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Would you like to see to the US or what changes.

Speaker 19 (35:20):
I think we're going to work on some subtle changes,
maybe I don't even know if we're going to be
dealing with USMC. We're just we're dealing more with concepts
right now. Look, right now we're doing trade. We have trade.
They're paying a tariff and cars and stealing aluminum. And
I think we have a baseline of ten percent or
something like that for the tariffs. But we're we're getting

(35:42):
along very well right now. Going no further, but we
have we have an agreement. We did something with even parts.
You want to discuss that, Howard, with respect to Canada,
which helps Canada out.

Speaker 23 (35:55):
Sure. So we've made and range car companies that fit
fifteen percent of their A U, S MCA parts are included,
and then fifteen percent of foreign parts from the manufactured
suggests a retail price are not tariff to help domestic
manufacturing really thrive.

Speaker 19 (36:15):
So we gave them a chance to be able to
build their car parts UH factories if they're going to
a lot of these companies already have factories and what
they have to do is just fill them out, but
they're able to build them in the United States. So
we gave them a pretty substantial period of time.

Speaker 10 (36:35):
Today to change your mind on.

Speaker 19 (36:37):
Canada tariffing cars.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Is there anything he.

Speaker 12 (36:42):
Can stayed in the course of your needs within today
that gets you to lift cars on Canada?

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Why not just the way it is?

Speaker 8 (36:56):
Don't want it when you respect that.

Speaker 19 (36:59):
Sure, but this is not necessarily a one day deal.
This is over a period of time. They have to
make that decision.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yes, go ahead, yeah if I mean well, I respectfully
Canadians view on this and is not going to change
on the fifty first date. Secondly, we are the largest
client of the United States in the totality all the goods,
so we are the largest client in the United States.
We have a tremendous auto sector between the two of us,

(37:27):
and the changes that made have been helpful. You know,
fifty percent of a car that comes from Canada's America.

Speaker 20 (37:33):
That's not like anywhere else in the world. And to
your question about is there one thing, No, this is
a bigger discussion. There are much bigger forces involved and
this will take some time in some discussions, and that's
why we're here to have those discussions. And that's that
is represented by who's sitting around.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
See, the conflict is and this is very friendly.

Speaker 19 (37:56):
We're not This is not going to be like we
had an the little blow up with somebody else that
was much different.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
This is a very friendly conversation. But we want to
make our own cars.

Speaker 19 (38:08):
We don't really want cars from Canada, and we put
tariffs on cars from Canada and at a certain point
it won't make economic sense for Canada to.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Build those cars.

Speaker 19 (38:20):
And we don't want steel from Canada because we're making
our own steel and we're having massive steel plants being
built right now as we speak. We really don't want
Canadian steel, and we don't want Canadian aluminum and various
other things because we want to be able to do
it ourselves. And we, because of you know, past thinking
of people, we have a tremendous deficit with Canada. In

(38:42):
other words, they have a surplus with us, and there's
no reason for us to be subsidized in Canada. Canada
is a place that we'll have to be able to
take care of itself economically. I assume they can. I
will tell you that true. When I spoke to him,
I used to call him Governor Trudeau. I think that

(39:03):
probably didn't help his election. But when I spoke to him,
I said, so why are we Why are we taking
your cars? Why are we taking your we want to
make them oreself. I mean, I said, and if the
price of your cars went up, or if we put
a tariff, if we put a tariff on your cars
of twenty five percent, what would that mean to you?

Speaker 6 (39:23):
He said, that would mean the end of Canada.

Speaker 19 (39:25):
He actually said that to me, and I said, that's
a strange answer, but I understand his answer. But no,
I mean, it's it's hard to justify subsidizing Canada to
the tune of maybe two hundred billion.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Dollars a year.

Speaker 19 (39:42):
We protect Canada militarily and we always will.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
We're gonna you know, that's not a money thing. That's
but we always will. But you know it's not fair.
But why are we.

Speaker 19 (39:52):
Subsidizing Canada two hundred billion dollars a year or whatever
the number might be.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
It's a very substantial number.

Speaker 19 (39:58):
And it's hard for the American taxpayer to say, gee, whiz,
we love doing that.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Thank you very much. We're gonna have a very sub.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Guys.

Speaker 18 (40:42):
That was President Trump meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Mark
Carney there in the Oval office.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
She saw the media beginning to leave.

Speaker 18 (40:49):
It was a wide ranging conversation, but much of the
conversation focused on the terraffs between the United States and Canada.
President Trump ending saying that the United States basically he
doesn't need any of the products that are produced in Canada.
That instead he wants to create those products here in
the United States, and hence he has put those tariffs

(41:10):
on those Canadian products in hopes of spurring more development,
more investment, and more production of those products here in
the United States.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
Well.

Speaker 18 (41:18):
Of course, continue to monitor the meeting between President Trump
and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney throughout the day. In
the meantime, let's get you back to the Charlie kirkshow.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
This has been a live special report.

Speaker 11 (41:29):
We now join our programming already in progress.

Speaker 17 (41:32):
Clean up crime at a federal level and thus really
kind of touching on crime all over the world, and
he can really focus in on government corruption.

Speaker 8 (41:40):
He's the perfect guy to do this.

Speaker 17 (41:42):
And so this is really destructive from Senator Tillis if
he is not bluffing here, and he said flat out
he's a no. And he's been telling this to media
a lot. He says that probably he's got others with him.
This is the threat that's being made. A lot of
people are suggesting maybe we should bring this to the floor.

(42:03):
Make till Us but his money where his mouth is.
See who else is out there who would vote no
to stop this? But the obsession with January the six
there were so many people who enthusiastic about supporting Trump
on that day. I'm not a big January the sixth guy,
Andrew I wasn't there. I didn't think the stuff that
went down was great. But it's the when can we
move on from this? This should not be a deal
breaker in this modern times after the overreaction to give

(42:25):
the left this scalp here would just be truly idiotic.
And if anyone feels like they can reach to center
till Us at this point, you've got to make the
move fast. But I am concerned that this is some
sort of a bigger leadership coup that's going on from
elements of Senate leadership.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
I'm just trying to read between the lines. I don't
know who specifically.

Speaker 17 (42:42):
McConnell comes to mind, obviously, but there's something going on
here beyond till Us.

Speaker 9 (42:46):
Yeah, let's go ahead and throw up. We have a
number for the audience to call his office. I think
we need to absolutely melt his phone lines down. This
is Senator Tom tell Us his office number. Please call him,
tell him, be respect respectful, be polite.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
But call Senator Tom tell Us.

Speaker 9 (43:04):
Let him know that we want Ed Martin in hiss
Us attorney for the District of Columbia. We can't give
this to a Democrat. It's a completely unnecessary uh lost.
We would be seeding ground when we need to be
attacking and taking ground.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
So go ahead and please call that number.

Speaker 9 (43:21):
Uh And the number for those listening on radio is
nine one nine eight five six four six three zero.
That's nine one nine eight five six four six three zero.
And Alex, I love that you have a personal relationship
with Ed Martin. I think that's that's fantastic. The bottom
line is, like, whatever your thoughts are on Ed Martin,

(43:43):
whether you think he's he's too radical, on Jay six,
I'm I'm a little bit more passionate about Jay six.
I think a lot of people got caught up in
a in a frenzied moment. They should trespassing fines. Okay, sure,
but grandmas do not need to be going to prison.
They don't need to be using enron you know, statue
to lock up people that were basically peaceful, took a

(44:06):
selfie and walked out.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
So yeah, thirty seconds, Yeah, of course, of course.

Speaker 17 (44:11):
I mean, and the fact that I wasn't like a
huge J six booster should speak more. I think that
even lends more credibility here. Everyone was overcharge and he
wasn't violent, and Martin's not a violent person, and if
you were going to have a threshold, it would have
to be violence, and that was what Jadvan's established. Trump
wiped that out and he said that we didn't even care.
We're letting everyone out, and which I think was wise

(44:31):
in a lot of ways. It's the Martin is not
a threat for violence. He's he's a outsider who's ready
to shake stuff up. The deep state's afraid of him,
and that's why they want him out.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
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We love Alex, and so we're gonna break down some
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(48:52):
let's see here. Never mind these I got my clips
mixed up. I just have to play this because it's
so brilliant. Two thirty three. This is on Canada becoming
the fifty first state. Two thirty three.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
President, you have said that Canada should become the first state.

Speaker 19 (49:07):
I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax
cut for the Canadian citizens. You get free military, you
get tremendous medical cares and other things.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
There would be a lot of advantages.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
It won't stop, Alex. And then I'll play one more clip,
just in the interest of time. Two thirty six says
India has already dropped agreed to drop all of their tariffs.

Speaker 19 (49:34):
We're gonna say, yeah, in some cases, we want you
to open up your country. In some cases, we want
you to drop your tariffs. I mean, India, as an example,
is one of the highest tariffs in the world. We're
not going to put up with that.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
And they've agreed already to drop it. They'll drop it
to nothing. They've already agreed. They would have never done
that for anybody else but.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Me, Alex Marler, you reaction.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (49:58):
Let me, first of all, take the fifty first daid.
Let's take it literally for a second. So if the
benefit for Canada would be they'd get a American military might,
and they would get the they would get the cohesion
with our country, which we have a lot of shared values,
and it feels like something that could be benefit for
them in terms of national security, especially as they've been
infiltrated from China and we have a much more robust

(50:22):
law enforcement that can help them crack down and some
of the crime that they have that they're starting to
deal with, legal immigration, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
With US.

Speaker 17 (50:27):
It also helps out with national security because Canada is
sort of a unknown because they're weaker about dealing with
that stuff. China's encroaching that country, what bothers us We
can finally get the fentanmil under control and just generally
expanding and dominating the continent sounds very appealing. But the
main thing there is energy. It is energy. Trump cares
mostly about energy. He understands the AI arms race we're in, Andrew,
we need more energy than ever he We're not getting

(50:50):
this connection. If we're going to beat China at Ai,
then we need to be able to get every single
ounce of energy out of the ground.

Speaker 8 (50:56):
And Canada moves very slowly in this. Joe Biden moves
slowly on this.

Speaker 17 (51:00):
If we can control it ourselves, I think Trump sees
it as a benefit. Now again, I don't think it's
gonna happen, but I think it's worth taking it seriously.
And if you look at India and our ties to
India that are going to I think expand quite a
bit during Trump's administration. Again, think of China, Think of China.
If we're working closely with India, we become far less
dependent on China for some of those cheaper goods that

(51:22):
we are depending on that we need and building up
their manufacturing base. It's a realistic way to get these
major companies pulled away from China if we can't get
them to do all their business and manufacturing for example here,
closer ties with India is beneficial to us and to
India and hurts China.

Speaker 8 (51:39):
That's how Trump is playing his chess game.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
Yeah, I agree with you, Alex. I think get the
oil sands in Canada. I mean, at the very I'm
not taking it literal, but I do I appreciate your point.
That being said, you know Canads are part of five Eyes.
I mean that we we're very integrated in a lot
of ways. This should be an obvious way to bring
our countries closer together, cooperate closer together. Trump is playing

(52:04):
his leverage hand, but again, Canada can be a massive
ally for US as well as India. You start linking
some of these countries together and boxing China out, they're
gonna be there's gonna be a lot more leverage on
China if we can hammer out some of these trade deals.
You know, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Australia is gonna stay

(52:26):
close to us thirty seconds, Alex, where do you see
this ending trade deals imminent?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Or you know, is he gonna is he gonna slow
off this?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (52:35):
I think this is why he's playing chess.

Speaker 17 (52:36):
I don't think he's got all the deals completely mapped
out in his head, but he knows. I think where
it's most important to make a deal. He knows where
he's got the most leverage. And again, whenever you're hearing
him speak, we're hearing about China. That's his main concern.
He was hip to this before any other major conservative
and so all he's trying to do all the moves
he's gonna make. If he feels like he's protecting aust
from being dependent on China, then he's going to cut deals.

(52:59):
And if you does I feel like he takes a
step in that direction, he will, all right.

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News Break. We appreciate you being here with us. Now
let's get you back to the Charlie Kirkshow.

Speaker 9 (58:24):
All right, Welcome back to the Bitcoin dot Com mobile studios.
I'm Andrew Cole THATTT filling in for Charlie today as
he is on assignment at San Francisco State University. Very
excited to hear how that goes today. That is gonna
be one of the trickier campuses. It's gonna be explosive,
to be honest. I mean, there's like five conservatives in

(58:46):
all of San Francisco. So these crowds that we've seen
in some of the other campuses, I candidly, I mean
maybe it will materialize in San Francisco, probably will be smaller,
probably gonna be more contentious. Him and Riley doing it together.
So I'm very very fascinated. Say a prayer for Charlie
and Riley that everything stays safe up there. This hour,

(59:06):
we're gonna do something a little different. I am still
here hosting. I'm gonna be covering any breaking news. But
there was a conversation and I beg Charlie for the
ability to play this conversation between Charlie and Matt Gates
from San Diego this weekend.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
This conversation was amazing.

Speaker 9 (59:23):
When it was done, everybody in the audience was just
over the moon. They thought it was the most fascinating
back and forth that they'd heard in a long time.
I've seen Charlie and Matt do long form conversations before
and it was amazing. So I'm gonna play that this hour.
I'll be coming in and out. We're not gonna have
enough time to get through all of the content. So

(59:44):
if you want to check out the full conversation, make
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Speaker 1 (59:50):
Download this episode. It's fantastic.

Speaker 9 (59:53):
Without further ado, Charlie Kirk and Matt Gates from this weekend.

Speaker 11 (59:57):
Okay, we are very thankful to have tonight. Who is
pinch hitting for Scott Best because Scott had a lot
going on. But I'll we'll take Matt Gates as a replacement,
won't we? Everybody give it up? Everybody for Matt Gates.

(01:00:19):
So Matt, welcome the turning point.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I didn't know there were this many conservatives in California.
You got all of them, Charlie. My producer, I do
the Matt Gate Show on One American News, and my
producer called me and said, Matt, if you show up
at at the Dell Coronado tonight you can be on
the best podcast around and I just assumed it would
be with Gavin Newsom, and it's The Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 11 (01:00:44):
So that is true. So Matt, what's been keeping you busy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I tell you, mostly cheering on what I believe to
be the greatest progress that we have seen in the
White House in my lifetime. And I know, in moments
like this there's always a sense to say, well, how
come we haven't strung Anthony Fauci up yet by his
entrails and imprisoned Liz Cheney and you know, expelled Adam

(01:01:13):
Shift from Planet Earth on an Elon Musk rocket yet,
And I pause for what we are enjoying and what
we have achieved, and it is remarkable and it must
be nurtured. I heard an hour after hour of congressional
testimony from Biden administration officials, my orcists, that the border

(01:01:35):
was just an unsolvable problem, that it was like a
Rubik's cube, that we just couldn't figure it out under
any circumstance. And now we see with vision and resolve,
and with a few high profile deportations to some very
unpleasant places, not only is our government deporting people? People
are deporting themselves. And when we think about the Core Covenant,

(01:02:04):
President Trump has to rescue this economy from the wilderness
that Joe Biden Kamala Harris sent us out to. I
am proud that we have someone who is willing to
do what is necessary to reset what was a deeply
unfair international economic order. And I learned in Congress in
some pretty tense moments that leverage is really only about

(01:02:27):
two things, how much pain you're willing to endure and
how much you're willing to dish out. And I think
the old Republican Party just wanted to endure pain, and
I think the Maga movement actually wants to dish a
little bit out every once in a while.

Speaker 11 (01:02:45):
And So, Matt, what would you say are some of
the victories that are so noticeably not just different, but
better than Trump won?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
The change in culture that we saw in Trump won. Okay,
we spent every day waking up with everyone trying to
tell us we were a bunch of Russian agents. I
was Putin's lawyer. Trump was Putin's puppet. We won the
election because Vladimir Putin told everybody to not vote for
Hillary Clinton, and we couldn't collude with Vladimir Putin. We

(01:03:14):
could barely collude with ourselves to put on the next
Trump rally during that just electric and exciting campaign that
we were a part of. And so there was an
effort to delegitimize and I think that was upsetting and frustrating.
And also in Congress you had people like Paul Ryan,

(01:03:35):
I'm actively working to derail the Trump administration, and those
people had power. Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan would have
been just fine if we'd have found out that Trump
did something illegal, and we would have ended up with
President Mike Pintz. But now now you have a cabinet
that is actually for the president, and that's something that's
pretty exciting. We were dealing with Jeff Sessions, who was

(01:03:59):
off making excuse for Hillary Clinton. We were dealing with
people in high leadership positions at the FBI and CIA
who were trying to tee up the president for some
sort of impeachment or prosecution all along the way. And
so I think that unified sense of purpose is important
and within the culture, rather than delegitimizing, there's kind of

(01:04:22):
a curiosity about all of us now. I saw a
little bit of it the other day when our friend
Steve Hilton was out on skid Row talking politics with
people who had clearly not done all of their homework
throughout life, but who are humans nonetheless and who probably
even if their lives are in shambles, want their life

(01:04:43):
to be better. And the breakthroughs and the curiosity is
something that we have to leverage, Charlie. And it's also
and I'm not just saying this because I'm here, because
I say it everywhere, and if you follow me on Twitter,
you see I say it all the time. The generational
shift that we have seen and the fact that our
politics is no longer so racialized is deeply pleasant to me.

(01:05:07):
It was just all about race before, and now we
are building a multi racial, multi ethnic, working class movement
of people, and it is inviting and warm, and that's
why we are rising. But it's also with young people.
If you would I'm about I'm going to be forty
three years old pretty soon, And if you'd have told

(01:05:27):
me when I was under the age of thirty that
a US president could count as their key constituency their
number one approval demographic voters under the age of thirty.
I would have told you that was crazy out. When
I was a young man in the state legislature in Florida,
our political strategy to deal with young voters was to

(01:05:50):
try to get them to not vote. It was it
was consultants would come in and say, well, you know,
if you put eighty four things on the ballot, maybe
one of these young people that wants to show up
and vote for Obama will just vote at the top,
but then turn in the ballot and they won't get
down to the state Senate. They won't get down to
the to the mayor, or the city council or the

(01:06:10):
school board. And that was that was what we thought
winning looked like, discouraging young people from participating, and you
know why, because we weren't offering them that much. Actually,
what the Conservatives stood for was more war and inviting
more people across our border and selling out time and

(01:06:31):
again and saying that victory was just surrendered at a
slower pace. That was not an appealing idea to young voters.
But I think we had two conflating facts. One you
had the other side trying to tell them that if
they were you know, they were either an oppressor or
oppressed and that's actually offensive to almost anyone you say
it to. And that, combined with the crazy gender theory

(01:06:55):
and the identity politics, gave us an opportunity, and we
seize that opportunity because we were fun and we were energetic.
If you went to a young Republican meeting back when
I was in my twenties, it was boring and everybody
was like wearing name tags and a clip on tie,
and you go to these Turning Point rallies and it
is the place to be. Is awesome, It is cool.

(01:07:16):
I've had so many parents and grandparents come up to
me and say that the person in their life who
they cared about went to a Turning Point rally with
friends and is now picking up a clipboard, downloading an app,
knocking on doors, making phone calls, and driving this victory
for a generation.

Speaker 9 (01:07:31):
All right, this is as good a time as any
to cut in on that conversation. Metgates hitting the theme
of our weekend really without knowing he was doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Just how extraordinary.

Speaker 9 (01:07:42):
The movement of young people to the Republican Party and
to support Trump has been many thanks to the work
that Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA are doing on
college campuses. More with Matt and Charlie when we get back,
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Speaker 9 (01:10:40):
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privilege of watching recently. So without further ado, Charlie and Matt.

Speaker 11 (01:11:07):
And Matt, let's let's talk a little bit more about that.
I mean, one of the themes of this weekend is
how the experts have been wrong, and you covered that
really well in Congress. Experts are wrong about the border,
they were wrong about masks. They were wrong about the
COVID shot, they were wrong about six feet to solve
the spread. But the other thing that the experts were
wrong about is that gen Z was going to be
permanently liberal. And one of the reasons why they've moved,

(01:11:29):
we believe is the work of turning point and or organizing,
but also it is a reaction to how their life
and their future was stolen from them during COVID and
the lockdowns. Can you can you speak to that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
We can all think about it in our own lives.
You know what it meant to graduate and walk across
the graduation state with stage with your loved ones there,
or going to prom and getting those prom pictures that
you might still flip through. Or having the football game
where the stands are full and you've had a great
athletic achievement. Or you're in ROTC and every morning you

(01:12:04):
got out there at six a m. And you proved
to the United States Military Academy or to the Naval
Academy that you belonged because you showed that group dedication.
They were robbed of leadership opportunities, they were robbed of
social opportunities, academic opportunities, and it built resentment, and by
the way, how could it not build that resentment. And

(01:12:25):
when I used to be a young person, there was
a resistance to the Republicans because the Republicans were always
trying to stop me from doing stuff. You know, you
couldn't look at this book, you couldn't read that opinion.
There was a sense that the moral majority was limiting
of the kind of adolescent experience. And now the political

(01:12:49):
left is the movement that embraces the cancel culture and
the censorship, and the idea that certain ideas are so
dangerous that we cannot even confront them or encounter them
or deal with them. That is nonsense. We have a generation,
we have the most socially interconnected generation in all of
human history. They want to engage, they want to talk,

(01:13:10):
They want to show up by the thousands, like they
just did in San Diego and actually see what ideas
rise to the surface because of their merit, not because
some genderless, purple haired walk Tovian told you.

Speaker 11 (01:13:23):
So, there's there's a lot of depth what you're saying there.
I want to explore it even deeper, which is that
in a world that they are raised in in their
high school classrooms and their college classrooms. They are so
intellectually sanitized that there's almost no robust speech. Because you

(01:13:43):
live in this world that you might microaggress. If you
don't know what microaggression is, it's where you say something
that is deeply offensive to somebody, but you didn't mean it. So,
for example, there's like a bunch of liberal trolls that
we're trying to disrupt. The Turning Point USA event last
week fell apart within a week. I told the story
on the show the to Day, but it's worth repeating.

(01:14:04):
And the reason it fell apart was that one of
the organizers was talking to a group of people, some
of them were black women, and the organizer said, this
is too disorganized. We have to get our act together. Well,
the black women said, that's a microaggression against their community,
and they staged a revolt and they demanded a resignation
of the head of this Democrat organizing firm. I'm not
kidding because she said that. She said, quote, this is disorganized,

(01:14:30):
and they said this is trauma going back hundreds of
years against the black community, and the whole thing has
fallen apart within a week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:14:38):
I want you to multiply that times a million. Every
classroom in government run school in California has that ideology
lace in it. Every college campus has that ideology laced
in it, where if you say one thing, even though
you don't mean it. For example, if you use the
term you people and you happen to be talking about
a Hispanic or a black person, that's racist colonial language.
That could get you fired from a job. And so

(01:15:00):
this is the world that they are raised in. And
finally out of that comes Turning Point USA and our
total free speech events where you could say anything. You'd
have the battle of ideas, and it is unbelievably attractive
to a generation that has held ideologically hostage and an
a labyrinth of these of these unpopular, tyrannical ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Matt and I think we're gonna I think we're gonna
hold those voters. Because it wasn't just colleges and universities.
Those very same young people would graduate colleges and universities
and show up at a corporate work environment that was
forcing DEI training on them. Some went on to the military,

(01:15:40):
where you won't believe this, but in the military, a
microaggression was deemed utilizing the deeply offensive terms mom and dad.
That if you use the term mom or dad, that
might be a microaggression against someone who didn't have a
mom and a dad, And so the millions you should

(01:16:01):
only use parent. And I'm just kind of wondering if
the CCP or the Iranians or the Russians aresidering around
that they're trying to get more macro aggressions out of
their military and we're trying to drive the microaggressions out
of ours.

Speaker 9 (01:16:16):
Under this, All right, more of mac Gates and Charlie
Kirk will get right back to the Charlie Cirkshow.

Speaker 18 (01:16:30):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. New Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is meeting
with President Trump at the White House. The two are
discussing tariffs and the current relationship that the United States
and our northern neighbor enjoy during a joint meeting, joining
a joint media availability.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Excuse me, The.

Speaker 18 (01:16:48):
Idea of Canada becoming the fifty first state was also addressed.

Speaker 19 (01:16:53):
It would really be a wonderful marriage because it's two places.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
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lot well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
If I May.

Speaker 20 (01:17:03):
As you know from real estate, there are some places
that are never for sale. We're sitting in one right now,
you know, Buckingham Palace if you visited as well, and
having met with the owners of Canada over the course
of the campaign last several months, it's not for sale,
won't be for sale ever. But the opportunity is in

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the partnership.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
And what we can build together.

Speaker 20 (01:17:27):
And we have done that in the past, and part
of that, as the President just said, is with respect
to our own security.

Speaker 18 (01:17:34):
President Trump's idea could soon get a bit more traction
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Speaker 9 (01:19:15):
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, Andrew
call it in for the one and only Charlie Kirk.
We are here at Themobile Bitcoin dot Com studio. And
before we get back into Matt Gays and Charlie's conversation,
which again is one of the best conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
I recommend listening to it in full.

Speaker 9 (01:19:32):
At Charlie's podcast, The Charlie Kirk Show, Anywhere podcasts or
wherever you listen to your podcast you can get the
full conversation. But first I want to tell you about TikTok.
There are seven point five US businesses on TikTok, employing
more than twenty eight million people. Four point seven million
people or jobs at US businesses on TikTok benefit from

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the app. Over three million people regularly more than six
hours per week use TikTok in their jobs, creating content,
managing content, marketing their products. Seventy four percent of US
business report that TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations,
including hiring more employees, increasing sales, and expanding to new locations.

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So what am I getting at TikTok is actually a
business boom. We have seen this as well at Turning
Point USA, and these Charlie Kirk videos that are changing
culture where you got eighteen to twenty one year olds,
according to the Harvard Youth Survey, are now conservative. A
lot of that is because of the virality of the
debates and the ideas that are getting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Spread across TikTok. I was with Charlie.

Speaker 9 (01:20:42):
At a we had a meeting off site, and all
these young kids kept coming up to Charlie and they
were watching them on TikTok. So whatever you think about it,
let me just tell you that it has become a massive,
massive tool for our ideas to spread and other businesses
are seeing the same thing. So that's TikTok. The power
of TikTok. It's something I've seen firsthand, and it is

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truly something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
It's culture shifting.

Speaker 9 (01:21:07):
So that being said, more of Matt Gates and Charlie
Kirk's discussion from this weekend, I think that the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Rejection of that was driven by this generation and the
maintenance of our control of these institutions kind of relies
on them, and that's why we have to make sure
that they're not just turned ideologically, but that they're up
for it, which is a key feature of what Turning
Point does. It's look, we were just hoping when Turning

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Point was at the crescendo that we would be able
to play, you know, even ball, we would hold serve
with young people, we could maybe get a diminution in
the delta of votes such that the boomers would save
us forever. And the reality is that, you know, now,
with this being a powerhouse, they have to go from

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voters to people who can act, debate other key constituencies
and talk to their neighbors. And even the generation that
follows Jen Alfa engaged in those very initiatives. And the
durability of it is what we must nurture. If we
throw our hands up in the air and say mission accomplished,
this is all done, it can be lost because that's

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what the left did by the way, they became the
party that was opposed to curiosity, that was opposed to
intellectualism just generally and embraced this monolith. And we cannot
do that. We cannot do that. And this was a
constant criticism I had of the Congress in which I served.
There was such a desire to just be there and

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be on the team, that so much of the necessary
work was not being accomplished, particularly on the matter of spending.
And if you don't believe me, look at the work
of Elon Musk and Doge. They what they have done
has not only been inspirational. It has been. It has
been revealing about what you get when you govern by

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continuing Resolution and omnibus spending bill. It is true that
the closest thing to everlasting life is a government program,
because once they are baked in, they are infrequently reviewed
for their efficacy and for their results. And I am
grateful that that happened. But I think that has to
be a guiding light for what we demand of public

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servants going forward, not a not a solution unto.

Speaker 11 (01:23:31):
Itself, so much to unpacked there. I'm glad you mentioned
this matter because if I were to so, I would
give the administration President Trump and his team an AAR
and a plus. And I mean that because in the
one hundred days, what they've been able to do is remarkable.
And let's just take one example, for example, the military.
You say that Pete Hegseth gets, you know, NonStop negative
news coverage. Military recruitment is up, military morale is up.

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These are measurable numbers, by these are not just anecdotes.
The morale to military is up thirty percent, routman is
up fifteen to twenty percent. Wargame exercises in the South
China Sea are up thirty percent percumin is going in
the efficiency direction. Our enemies finally fear us again. I mean,
all the stuff that we want of our military is happening.

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And not to mention, we got rid of the COVID
vaccine requirement, we got rid of pronouns on battleships, and
the one that I love the most that got almost
no news coverage. Physical fitness standards for men and women
in combat are the same. No accommodation based on sex.
I know, this is the fact that we have to applaud.
That is pretty remarkable, right, and again nothing against people

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that want to serve, obviously, but the physical fitness standards
were so lower accommodated that a woman only had to
be able to do like eleven push ups, where the
man had to be able to do thirty five push ups.
I have the whole chart. It's so dramatic. The one
that was the most scary, though, was the deadlift, where
a female in the United States military only had to
deadlift I think like one hundred and ninety five pounds

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or an average male in the US military with gearon
in a battle conflict weighs well over two hundred fifty pounds.
That is an existential threat to our servicemen in combat.
If a woman has to put him on her back
and to get him out of harm's way to save
his life, that is not an abstraction. That is a
real national security threat for people that serve. And that's
just one of many examples. So we can go through

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all the great self President Trump is doing and don't
want to emphasize that, but I think met you're uniquely
positioned to address a current anxiety that a lot of
people have in this room. What the heck is Congress doing?
Where is the action? Where is the legislation? We do
have these majorities. You've served in the House, and you
did really well as a firebrand, But why have we

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not seen just like a volley of bills every week
making the Democrats vote against them one single subject bills
boom vote against this, vote against that. No men and
female sports vote against that, chemical castration for kids vote
against that. They say, oh, we can't break the filibuster,
but then bring it to the floor and get them
on the record and expose it and drive the news

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cycle every single day and play off of that's not
a good excuse. And so Matt. I know you will
not do air cover at all because you're not in Congress.
But help us understand because the impatience of this audience
is that record hies with Congress, the approval very high
for President Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
So walk us through that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Yeah, I didn't even talk too good about those folks
when I had to go to work with them every day.
So I'll tell you exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:26:29):
Come on, Matt, let.

Speaker 8 (01:26:30):
Them have it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
I'll be straight, very straight with you. Congress is either
afraid or corrupt in most circumstances, and the fear derives
from the sense of any criticism being dispositive. I had
a lot of colleagues in Congress whose goal was just
to not be mentioned because they see the stats. Over
ninety percent of people in Congress get reelected, and so

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if you're not getting mentioned frequently, you're not going to
be one of the outliers that is at risk of
lou using the power that you've worked to accumulate. And
that really really drives people to be adverse to anything
that requires them to take a side.

Speaker 17 (01:27:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
That's why you see so many bills that that you think, gosh,
did we really need to like rename thirteen post offices
this week while President Trump is seeking critical trade authority
or national security authorities. And then the other part is
the corruption. When I was in Congress, I was the
only Republican congressman who refused all lobbyists and pack donations.

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And even people I like, even people I would knock
on doors for and donate to, would have the audacity
to stand before their constituents and say that the hundreds
of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars that they
were getting from professional power brokers was not tied to

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some expectation of their behavior on the other end. And
we all know that instinctively, but we forgive people who
do it because we say, well, they just have to,
ye know, you gotta fund your campaigns somehow. And I
came to the realization that if that's the way I
had to fund my campaigns, I did not want this
job anymore. I did not want elections to just be

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about who got to be valets for the same special
interests in big pharma or big business, or who wanted
to open borders or trade agreements that hollowed out the
middle class while building up the middle Kingdom. And so
the fear and corruption paralyzes the place, and then there

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is a muscle memory to just fund everything all at once.
And this would be one disagreement I have with the
Trump strategy. And President Trump's a far better strategies, so
he's probably right and I'm probably wrong, But I think
that we should have single subject bills that only deal
with one thing at a time. And I believe that

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because when you do it the other way, there is
no way to get to scrutinize what is working and
what is not is working, what is harmful and what
is helpful. And when we tried, when we tried to
put up reasonable reductions in obviously wasteful programs, there would
be a block of Republican votes against us to merely

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maintain the structure that did not allow that type of review,
because they may be subjects to that review eliminating some
of their programs. We had a Republican who sat down
in the budget negotiations and said, I'll be for any
cut so long as it's the cross the board to
everything and not reviewing individual things. And I said why,
he said, well, because mine wouldn't survive that review. And

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that was like an acceptable answer. And so here's a
tangible vote that I was aggrieved by. You see Elon
pointing out how USAID was really just a slush fund
for the global left for their regime chain ambitions and
their social engineering ambitions. That's what USAID has largely been.

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Eli Crane, a terrific Congressman from Arizona, put up an
amendment to just cut their money in half. And one
hundred and forty one Republicans voted against Eli Crane's amendment,
and those same people show up nuncing, we love Doge,
we love Elon, cut it. But when they had the
chance to vote, they just voted in lockstep because of
the fear and because of the corruption. Now, I tried

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everything to break through that. I tried shaming them, I
tried altering my own behavior with donors. I fired the
guy who sat in front of the building, and all
of that was insufficient. And my only hope is that
courage can be contagious with President Trump and with the
effort that he has put into this initiative, that the

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members of Congress will will do what is necessary. And
I think the obvious first step is to take his
most popular executive orders and to put them into permanent law.
And if we can't get the votes, show who's voting No.

Speaker 11 (01:31:01):
I completely agree. So you take as most popular executive
orders that are all enjoined one after the other, from
border to deportations, single subject one page bills. Now looks
like we're not gonna get that. We're gonna get a monstrosity,
a big, beautiful bill.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
And so.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
Walk us through how you're thinking about that. There will
be some really good stuff in there. There'll be no
tax on tips, there'll be no tax on overtime, no
tax on social security. There will be more border funding,
there'll be more deportation funding. But where do you think
the end product will be.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
I'm so happy with all of those things and getting
those things right.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
Let me cut in right before Matt gives his answer
to that question.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Again.

Speaker 9 (01:31:43):
That's Matt Gates and Charlie Kirk. That was this weekend
fascinating conversation. We're gonna have more on the other side
of his break.

Speaker 22 (01:31:51):
Don't go anyway, Charlie Kirks Show.

Speaker 15 (01:32:04):
We're talk meets action.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Some
breaking news we're gonna get in the clip. But the
largest fentanyl seizure in US history. Attorney General Pam Bondi
has just announced they seized enough fentanyl get this to
kill two hundred and fifty million Americans. So she's she's
saying that, you know, we basically saved two hundred fifty

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million americans lives.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
It's one way to put it. It's a little awkward,
but it was enough.

Speaker 9 (01:32:32):
Fentanyl killed two hundred and fifty million people, which is
truly extraordinary. Charlie was just on campus this week. Was
a kid asked him, you know that the whole fentanyl
thing is fake and it's not real.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Meanwhile, this this happens.

Speaker 9 (01:32:45):
And just to break this down somewhat for the audience,
imagine during Biden when there was ten even fifteen thousand
people swarming the border every day, I mean, our border
patrol became glorified paper pushers, and there wasn't as much
energy or attention that could give to drug smugglers and
to intercepting those those narcotics before they got into the interior.

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And now, because it's basically a ghost town at the border,
anything that is being brought in with ventanyl or drugs
is getting intense scrutiny.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
We're catching more of it per capita per day.

Speaker 9 (01:33:19):
So this is a huge, huge discovery by Border Patrol.
DJ Pambondi, congratulations on a huge score.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
It really is going.

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
To save a lot of American lives, at least one
hundred thousand a year somewhere in that. In that metric
of of people that are killed with normal drugs, whether
it be you know, pot or something cocaine that is
laced with ventanyl, it's an absolute scourge. Obviously people shouldn't
be doing drugs, but you know, making a mistake shouldn't

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be a death sentence. So this is this is a huge,
huge accomplishment, So bravo and good for PM Bondy. We
are going to head back to this conversation with Matt
Gates and Charlie Kirk from this weekend in San Diego, California,
as Charlie's making his West Coast tour. He's in San

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Francisco State today with Riley Gains and Riley's going up
to you dub for another turning point event, and I
was just told there's gonna be reporters covering the protests there,
so say a prayer for Charlie and Riley as they
go into the lions Den on the West Coast, and
we're gonna welcome back Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Don't go anywhere, all right, Welcome back to the Bitcoin
dot Com mobile studio.

Speaker 9 (01:34:43):
Charlie Kirk is on assignment today at San Francisco State University.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
I am in as your guest host in part.

Speaker 9 (01:34:51):
But we want to give you some Charlie Kirk and
Matt Gates to tide you over. So we're gonna continue
on with Charlie and Matt from San Diego.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Many one of those things, right, it would be deemed
one of the most consequential presidencies in all of our life.
If you could do all of that would be incredible.
But if we do all of that and you keep
the structural deficit in place that we have on spending,
we will not save the country. If we have a
secure border but no economy, we will not save the country.

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We are headed to some necessary austerity and that only
gets harder the longer you wait. I heard a story
from this last week in Congress where they were trying
to say, well, where can we get some cuts? And
the medicaid program is an important program, but it is
rife with fraud and a lot of the waste in
medicaid is driven by the fact that the federal government

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runs it, because states would come up with more cost effective,
innovative ways to be able to keep people healthy in
their jurisdictions. But no, no, no, we have a system
where you have to spend more state money in medicaid
in order to activate a federal drawdown. So Speaker Johnson
and some smart folks said, tell you what, why don't
we do a plan to cap medicaid at our current

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spending and then just send it to the states and
block granted and then some will succeed, some will fail,
best practices will emerge, and they'll be copied in our
federalist system. And Republicans were so offended that he would
have the nerve to cut future expected medicaid growth that
they walked out of the room and wouldn't even listen

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Derek varan Orton of Wisconsin. And that should really worry us,
because if we don't believe in unlocking innovation, then this
is still going to be a very expensive government to run,
far more expensive than we are able to generate in
taxes or in any tariff. And so I think the
problem is structural. I think that you have to get

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to the single subject bills. I don't believe the big
beautiful bill is going to result in substantial reductions in spending.
And that's still the meat on the bone, that's still
the work we're going to have to do. It's not
a criticism of the important tax work and the important
border work, but the spending hawks have become an endangered
species on Capitol Hill, and I'll still fly with them.

Speaker 11 (01:37:12):
So I want to now ask about the Democrat Party,
and then I do want to do some questions. What
would you say is the state of the Democrat Party
and what have we learned since the election? And what
are lessons that we can internalize to try to turn
this into maybe a decade or two decade governing majority.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Well, I have some in politic views on this. I
believe that the most well who's left in the Democratic
Party are like the beta males, the unsuccessful males, the
angry lesbian pitbull adopting lessie.

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
You have Tim Wells.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
And then and then the transsexuals, and so I believe
that the trans women will very soon be the most
masculine force in the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Because who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
I see you several of you nodding, like, who do
you think is gonna be the most masculine force in
the Democratic Party, the beta males or the trans women.
I think the trans women are probably gonna kind of
take over that. And you wonder how all of this
broke out in the election, and President Trump was able
to overcome a gender gap with women by having a

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larger gender gap with men. And so the coalition on
the Republican side was like, you know, the the non
self loathing males and of any color stripe creed. I mean,
we had like the cool black guys and the Coolatino guys.
We got the gay men pretty much with us for
the most part. And then you added it really put

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it to I think women you could divide into like
desirable women and undesirable women. And the Democrats killed us
with undesirable women. If no, I mean they struggled. But
if you were like cool and a woman, you looked
around and you're like, well, who do I want to
hang out with? Like the cool alpha males and the

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cool black guys, and the gay men are the piople
adopting lesbians and the transsexuals, And we got the desirable women,
and I would like to keep them.

Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
And this is a this is a cultural change that
transcends politics, right, This is a cultural change that is
deeper than just a singular election. What would you say
going into not just twenty twenty six but future years? Things,
a to do list that Republicans need to get serious about,

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or since you've learned from Congress, running for office, going.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
To the again.

Speaker 9 (01:39:49):
We don't have enough time to play the entire conversation
between Matt and Charlie there, but if you want to
check it out, I recommend doing it the Charlie Kirkshow podcast.
Wherever you listen to your podcast, They're about to get
into a lot of really interesting stuff, so I recommend
doing that. Honored to be with you behind the microphone today,
Charlie will be back tomorrow. Say a prayer from at
San Francisco State.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
We'll talk to you soon.