The Charlie Kirk Show, November 26, 2025

Commentary on Judge Dismisses Georgia Election Interference Case Against Trump, Thanksgiving, no dumb questions segment, Ukraine, the National Guard, authority, public moral, and Ethiopia

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
The President of the United States has been impeached for
now only the third time in history.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
We are here today because Donald J. Trump, the forty
fifth President of the United States, abused the power of
his office, the American presidency for is a political and
personal benefit.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
To effectuate this scheme, President Trump withheld two official acts
of vital importance to a nation at war with our adversary,
Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
The President withheld a White.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
House meeting that Ukraine desperately sought to bolster it standing
on the world stage. And more perniciously, President Trump suspended
hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid approved by
this Congress to course Ukraine into doing his electoral dirty work.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
To withhold that systems for no good reason other than
help with the political impaign made no sense. It was
counterproductive to all of what we had been trying to do.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
My worst fear of how our Ukraine policy could play
out was playing out, how this was likely to have
significant implications for US national security.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
He was being involved in a domestic political errant, and
we were being involved in.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
National security foreign policy, and those two things had just diverged.

Speaker 8 (01:49):
I then heard President Trump ask, so he's going to
do the investigation. Maassar Songlon replied that he's going to
do it, adding to President Zelenski will do anything he
ask him to do. Was there a quick pro quote,
as I testified previously with regard to the requested White
House call and the White House meeting, The answer is yes.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Substract is a quick pro quote.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It is funding will not flow.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
Unless the investigation into the Democratic Server happened. As well,
we do that all the time with foreign policy.

Speaker 9 (02:24):
And when the president got caught, he committed his second
impeachable act, obstruction of Congress of the variability to make
sure that no one is above the law, not even
the president of the United States. The evidence is every
bit is strong that President Trump has obstructed Congress fully
without precedent and without basis in law. The President and

(02:47):
his men plot on the danger persists.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
The risk is real.

Speaker 9 (02:54):
Our democracy is at peril.

Speaker 10 (02:57):
Well, I would.

Speaker 11 (02:58):
Think that if they were honest about it, that sort
of major investigation into Divide.

Speaker 12 (03:04):
It's a very simple answer.

Speaker 11 (03:06):
He should investigate Divide and by the way, likewise, China
should start an investigation into divide.

Speaker 13 (03:14):
Rudy Giuliani telling CNN's Dana Bash that he's wrapped up
his trip in Ukraine.

Speaker 14 (03:19):
He's been in Europe this past week.

Speaker 10 (03:21):
As part of a bid to keep digging for.

Speaker 14 (03:23):
Dirt on President Trump's political rival.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
And I have news for everybody. Get over it.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
There's going to be political influence in foreign policy.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
What is at risk here is the very.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Idea of America. That idea holds that we are a
nation of laws, not of men. We are a nation
that believes in the rule of law. When we say
we uphold the Constitution, we are not talking about a
piece of parchment. We're talking about a beautiful architecture in

(03:55):
which ambition is set against ambition, in which no branch
of government can dominate another.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
The Trump administration is releasing what the President describes as
the transcript of that phone call that launched the Democrats'
impeachment investigation.

Speaker 9 (04:11):
The big thing that everybody was talking about was that
there was a quid pro quo.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
There is no explicit quid pro quote.

Speaker 14 (04:19):
That language, or even that suggestion exists nowhere in this document.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
The President did not say, investigate Joe Biden. If you
want your.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Money, there are not multiple references as widely reported to
the former vice president.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
Is this a big bowl of nothing?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I don't see a tie to the money.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
People we talked to you said the president didn't make
any remarks about a and he does it. It was
actually President Vilensky of Ukraine who first brought up outreach
to Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 15 (04:47):
It's another media disaster.

Speaker 11 (04:49):
I think this is one of the worst weeks in
the history of the fake news media.

Speaker 10 (04:54):
You have been wrong on so many.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Things, Charlie.

Speaker 14 (05:01):
Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information
coming from every angle, but the will to deceive fear not.
You found the place for truth, the voice of a
generation that still has the will to believe in the
greatest country in the history of the world.

Speaker 16 (05:18):
This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, Here
we go on, all right, Happy Wednesday. It's the Charlie
Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Covid, executive producer of this fine show,
joined by Blake Neff.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
It is the day before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 16 (05:33):
Yeah, we have a lot to be thankful for this year,
in spite of the tragedy, in spite of the loss.
And I think Blake, you said it best, even especially
in the midst of what's been a really rough season,
we have to practice the discipline of being thankful, being
grateful for the mercies of God, the blessings of God Almighty,

(05:54):
and we will do that in this show. We are
going to spend probably the second half of this hour
doing that. First we've got a couple breaking news stories
that we want to get to. Then an hour two
we're gonna do a really kind of fun segment with
Daisy Days are gonna join us.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
No Dumb Questions, uh, and we should have questions from
our from the audience, Yes sir, yes, sir. So you
can actually start get sending those in now and well
we'll keep an eye out.

Speaker 16 (06:18):
No Dumb question segment. I love that, and it's it's
very of the people. There are no dumb questions. There's
a lot of things that we kind of will talk
over sometimes and assume that the audience understands what.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
We're talking about.

Speaker 16 (06:30):
Not that we're smarter or some in some ways more intelligence.
It's just that we're covering this stuff every day, we're
following tracking and sometimes you might have questions. You're like, hey,
start up, start at point one. So first big breaking
news story this morning, Blake nef the State of Georgia
is basically refusing or declining to pursue its case, the

(06:51):
Fanny Willis case against Donald J. Trump, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman,
and many others. Uh, this is a fit end, but
kind of a whimper in what was a main, huge
story of.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Twenty twenty four. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
I wanted us to start with this because I think
it actually perfectly encapsulates the life arc of a lot
of things we've lived through in the Trump era. There's
how many times have the walls been closing in? About,
you know, fifty thousand different times? There was there was
a mean video if the walls.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Are closing in?

Speaker 7 (07:21):
How often they set it in I think twenty sixteen
or early twenty seventeen, And it's just been the same
way ever since. So when Trump was out of office,
they waited a few years, they didn't do anything initially,
and then suddenly twenty twenty three they thought, let's roll
out all of these indictments of Trump Manhattan in Georgia,
and then the two federal cases.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Then of course, yeah, the business case Carrol, all of
these things to take him down, and a lot of them,
they'll superficially look formidable. You know, He's got four different
criminal indictments and all these civil cases, and what I
was always stood out to me is how every single
one of them has some insane flaw either unprecedented use

(08:06):
of the law of law and law fav a total
novel reinterpretation.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I remember this case, the Fulton County case.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
It included in the indictment that, as part of his
conspiracy to do various bad things, that Trump encouraged people
to turn on oan to watch. I believe the Georgia
Legislature hold a hearing that was part of the conspiracy.
I believe another part of his conspiracy was encouraging was

(08:34):
that he called lawmakers. I believe he called lawmakers and
urged them to vote a certain way on legislation, which
I will observe is part of the First Amendment. You're
right to petition lawmakers for redressive grievances. I believe that
extends to the president. They had things like this, and then,
in case you've forgotten, Fanny Willis also hired her boyfriend

(08:55):
Nathan Wade.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Onto the case.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
They paid him, I believe over six hundred thousand dollars,
they were taking luxury vacations. They tried to lie about
the fact that they were in a relationship. He I
believe might have left his wife or girlfriend as part
of this. There was a whole sordid background to that.
All of this I bring up to you again, and
now we've come here. Nothing came that. It ended in
total humiliation. They have to drop the case. Millions of

(09:19):
dollars were wasted, so big Fanny Willis could look like
a big superstar, and so many things are like that.
All of the Trump criminal cases were ultimately like guess,
even the one where he got convicted, huge problems with it.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think it would have gone down in court eventually.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
You're talking about the case. No, not the Carroll case,
the Manhattan Oh yeah, of course. And then, of course,
so just one thing after another, they would bring up
these cases that are half baked, they're entirely politically motivated,
and they go down to an embarrassing defeat.

Speaker 16 (09:51):
I mean you mean the Manhattan case where he successfully
paid back his bank loans.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
If this is the one where they said that he
was engaging in what was.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
It was the election case? You know it was with
your talking about with Stormy Daniel. Yes, yeah, the hush case.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
But they said it was a illegal campaign contribution, yes,
to allegedly play hush money. And then they also that
it was a felony because he was covering up a
federal crime that the federal government had never charged him with,
had in fact investigated and declined to charge him for.
And then they tell the jury you can just pick
whatever crime you feel like might have been covered up.
You don't even need to unanimously agree on a crime.

(10:33):
All of these things are like that. And so we
wanted to open that because today is Thanksgiving and you
can not today. Yeah, tomorrow is Thanksgiving, Thank you, Andrew
and fact check yeah and so so.

Speaker 16 (10:47):
But all this, you know, this is what gets me
is there's another round of this that seems to be
about to pop off. And now Bloomberg has somehow gotten
its hands on a leak between a witcock Off Steve Witkoff,
special envoy apprend appointed by President Trump to handle Ukraine
Russia issues. He's been traveling all over the world working

(11:09):
on peace negotiations, and Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin's top foreign
policy advisor. So there was a this is a new
story breaking today, Blake, where it is it seems to
be a story where I instantly want to ask qui bono,
who benefits? Right, because if you let's go through the
paces here. So there was a twenty eight point piece

(11:30):
plan that was leaked, right first leak and by the way,
Jack Pisovic actually predicted that there was going to be
a leaked phone call yesterday, which is pretty remarkable because
it came out today or it came.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Out last night.

Speaker 16 (11:42):
And there was a twenty eight point peace plan, which
was widely derided by the foreign policy establishment is to
pro Kremlin. So then we get the EU coming in
and we get a follow up peace plan which is
much more let's say, pro Ukrainian.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
There was.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Basically you had made.

Speaker 16 (12:02):
The point earlier this week, Blake, that the twenty eight
point piece plan was somewhat remarkable in the sense that
it actually included a provision where the US would I
would identify portions of formerly Ukrainian land as now Russian
land and territory. That's a pretty big deal. So this one,
the new piece plan, does not necessarily have that. It

(12:24):
has a doesn't doesn't have a cap on the size
of the Ukrainian military. There's other things that would would
you obviously interpret as more pro Ukrainian, pro Europe. Right,
there's basically a NATO Article five type security guarantee involved
in the new plan, so it's much much more pro Ukrainian.
I think the twenty eight point plan is much more
pragmatic and probably realistic, where this is going to finally

(12:47):
end out in the end. But now we have a leak,
and you have to ask why would somebody leak this
phone call between Wikoff and Ushakov.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So the call.

Speaker 16 (12:59):
Is essentially, I think, a nothing burger, but it's being
made much of in the press because it appears to them,
and the way they're painting is that Witkoff is playing
ball with the Russians, coaching the Russians on how to
sell this peace plan plan to Trump. Right, Trump, you're
the peace president, you know, kind of glazing President Trump,

(13:20):
giving him, giving his ego a boost. And I think
that this is completely par for the course. This is
standard operating procedure, standard negotiation tactics, and I believe the
President agrees, let's go ahead and play cut two thirty two.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's audio that Bloomberg has of.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Witcom coaching the Russians on how to appeal to you.

Speaker 11 (13:44):
But that's a standard thing, you know, because he's got
to sell this to Ukraine. He's going to sell Ukraine
to Russia. That's what he's That's what that don't make
your dis You got to say, look, they want this.

Speaker 15 (13:55):
You've got to convince him. But this, you know, that's
a very standard form of negotiation.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Blake, do you think that's a standard form of negotiating.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
I don't know whether it's standard in diplomacy. It's standard
with what Trump does. Trump is a real estate guy.
Trump is a guy who is he likes Witcough because
wit Cough negotiates the way. I think Trump likes to
make deals, and I think of how you might make
deals in the business world. It probably would be normal
to tell someone, Hey, before you talk to this guy,

(14:25):
here's how you're going to make sure this conversation goes well.
That is a normal conversation that you will have if
you are in, you know, a business world of negotiation.
And I think.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's if Trump says he likes it, that probably makes sense.
That's probably true. We'll be right back.

Speaker 17 (14:52):
Use flash.

Speaker 14 (14:52):
Democrats America has a republic, not a democracy.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Fact check true.

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so we're gonna play a clip somebody created an AI
generated version as supposed to be reading this back and
forth between Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterpart. We're gonna
play it for you so that you can hear directly
what was being said, and then we're going to relate
it to what happened in twenty nineteen with Vinmin the
other leak, what happens with Ukraine and our intelligence agencies?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Was it MI six?

Speaker 16 (16:52):
Was it the Europeans? Was it Ukrainians who leaked this
que bono? That is the question, and it just strikes
me that the foreign policy establishment is more outraged the
possible peace deal than they are that our intelligence is
getting leaked to Bloomberg. We'll be right back, all right,

(17:27):
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
We are back here. We're going to play this cut here.

Speaker 16 (17:33):
Of it's an AI generated version, but I think it
does a good job of giving you the brief of
what this leak call entails.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Two sixty five.

Speaker 18 (17:43):
I'm even thinking that maybe we set out like a
twenty points peace proposal, just like we did in Gaza.
We put a twenty point Trump plan together that was
twenty points for peace, and I'm thinking maybe we do
the same thing with you.

Speaker 12 (17:57):
My po is this okay, okay, my friend, I think
that the very point of Alas could discuss Steve I
agree with you, or that we will congratulate. He will
say that mister Trump is a real peace man, and
the so and so that you will.

Speaker 18 (18:13):
Say, maybe he says President Trump. You know, Steve and
you were discussed the very similar twenty point plan to piece,
and that could be something that we might move the
needle a little.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Bit that that infliction upon us.

Speaker 16 (18:28):
Yeah, that was actually the wrong version. There's another one
that's going around just much better. But the point is
there is coaching going on.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
You wants a better one because then people will think
it's the real that's true.

Speaker 16 (18:39):
But I mean, this was a phone call. It was
trying to be it was it was supposed to be
a reenactment. That was a that was a bad version
of that. But the point is they're trying to coach
President Trump and everybody's saying, oh, look at the Kremlins
too involve. But this all strikes me as a throwback
to the twenty nineteen vinmin League, right, And there is
this amazing, amazing here that I'm going to pull up

(19:01):
in just a second. Basically, you have Vinment testifying before Congress,
and you know, then Adam Shift jumps in to protect Vinman.
And it is this really telling moment that just as
I'm having I'm having flashbacks to twenty nineteen, so you
have to have them with me too. Let's go ahead

(19:22):
and play cut. I believe this would be two thirty three.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Did you discuss the July twenty fifth phone call with
anyone outside the White House on July twenty fifth or
the twenty sixth.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yes, I did. My core function is to coordinate US
government policy in tre agency policy. And I spoke to
two individuals with regards to providing a some some sort
of readout of the column.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Two individuals that were not in the White House.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Not in the White House.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
If I could interject here, we don't want to.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Use these proceedings.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
It's our time. We need to protect the whistleblower.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh need to protect the whistle blower. Whistle blower. So
this is how this happened.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
That was just that's such a bizarre episode in hindsight,
that entire whistleblower saga, where there was someone who was
just making allegations against the president that were ridiculous, and
then people, hundreds thousands of people knew who this person was,
but you couldn't say their name on television because.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
They were the whistle blower.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
It was Eric Cramelo that shimmearella whatever I can't promouns.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
So so yeah, he was the whistleblower.

Speaker 16 (20:34):
He But but basically what that was was an instance
of somebody got to read out of the call, thought
it wasn't good, and then accused the president, which ends up,
you know, resulting in crazed impeachment proceedings. So this is
this is these are the stakes that we're playing with,
and never forget, you know, six ways to Sunday. The

(20:56):
intellagents agencies have six ways a Sunday of getting you
the notorious warning from the good Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Who's now up against it.

Speaker 16 (21:05):
By the way, his approval rating in New York is
it like in the low thirties. It's the lowest that
he's ever had. He's back against the wall. We could
play the cut cut why not two forty four.

Speaker 19 (21:16):
To take on the intelligence community? They have six ways
from Sunday at getting back at you. So even for
a practical, supposedly hard nosed businessman, he's being really dumb.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
To do this. What do you think the intelligence community
would do if they were mine?

Speaker 19 (21:29):
I don't know, but I from what I am told,
they are very upset with how he has treated them
and talked about them. And we need the intelligence community.
We don't know what's going Look at the Russian hacking.
Without the intelligence community, we wouldn't have discovered it.

Speaker 9 (21:45):
He has an agenda to try to dismantle parts of
the intelligence community.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
I mean this form of tante hostel.

Speaker 19 (21:50):
Whether you're a super liberal Democrat or a very conservative Republican,
you should be against dismantling the intelligence community.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Video.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
No, video is a better argument for just a systematic purge.
You have seventeen of the intelligent fire huge numbers of
people at random. If you need to think the CIA
because it's so sinister, yeah, oh well, we only know
these things if the intelligence community tells us. And if
you better do what the intelligence community wants. You don't
make them upset or they'll get back at you. That's despicable.

(22:21):
We live in a republic. Voters get to decide what
actually happens in their.

Speaker 16 (22:25):
Coms well, and in this instance it's pro I would
doubt that it's the CIA. That maybe there's involvement of
the CIA, But you look at this, This was a
a It could have been Ukrainian intel, could have been
six could have been the Five Eyes. You got to
ask yourself who benefits from leaking this call to sabotage

(22:46):
a peace plan because they think it's they think that
the Trump administration is being too pro Kremlin. But I
will say it again, I think the original twenty eight
point plan is the more pragmatic, honest plan that has
the greatest chance of success. That Europe didn't want. Europe
thought it was bending the knee to the Kremlin. I disagree.

(23:06):
We're going to come back and tell you what we're
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on the day's headlines. We appreciate you being here with
us for this news break. I'm Terrence Bads. Airports across
the country are starting to get more and more crowded

(24:16):
as travelers make their way to their Thanksgiving locations. The
day before Thanksgiving is traditionally one of the busiest travel
days of the year. Triple A estimates that nearly eighty
two million Americans will travel this Thanksgiving holiday, while seventy
three million will travel by car, about six million will fly.
Extending Obamacare subsidies continues to be a thorn in the

(24:38):
President's side and a challenge for Congressional Republicans who are
seeking to change this issue. Leading up to the January
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increases in if and when those subsidies do expire at
the end of this year and the holiday season is
in full swing. At the White House? Is President Trump
pardon Gobble the turkey at the White House on Tuesday.
A second turkey named Waddle was also pardon but as
you can see, didn't make it here to the White
House for this celebration of the pardonings. The pardons are

(25:25):
traditioned for US presidents and date back decades. President Trump
and the First Lady, by the way, spending the holiday
season in Florida there at mar A Lago as we speak,
and are set to return on Sunday. That's a quick
check off your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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slash Charlie make the switch today. All right, we have
to address something here.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Yeah, we get this actually just came in hot end
from from the very top.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
So we'll get to the Thanksgiving part in a moment.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
But we're both very big fans of Erica Kirk and
she she wanted us to talk about something that has
just bubbled up.

Speaker 16 (27:41):
Well, I actually commented on it last night. I have
to say, so this is not new to me. Let's
go ahead and play cut two fifty eight. This is
Joy Reid pushing the deranged conspiracy theory. It is deranged
that JD. Vance is going to leave his wife.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Usha second lady for Erica fifty eight.

Speaker 13 (28:02):
They can't have the successor to Maga be the guy
with the brown Hindu wife. They're also Christian nationalists. That
ain't gonna work. That's why he's throwing his wife under
the bus or Usha or she's in on it right and.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
She's playing slap and tackle with Erica. Kirk's aware I've
ever seen.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yeah, she's like in her Tammy fay Era.

Speaker 13 (28:19):
Holding on the back of his head and rubbing his
head some weird I don't do that today, said, I'm
gonna start thinking something's going on. Why are you holding
the bigger he is here? I'm like, you're not doing
the right thing.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
You're supposed to be a widow.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
You in leather.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Pantsare could you imagine.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
If wouldn't it be the most perfect fairy tale, Maga
fairy tale if he finally sees the light that he
needs a white queen instead of this brown Hindu.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Ally rubbing on his head.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Pants.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I'm annoyed. I'm a little bit annoyed that. You know,
when we had the Megan Kelly thing last week, and
you know, they were praising her because she was a
little anti transit. It's just like I remember warning you
this is a disgusting woman. She's going to say something
very disgusting very soon. How soon it was?

Speaker 16 (29:14):
Yeah, So I think what's really sick about this, and
I'll tell you is that these are three deranged, likely
postmenopausal women that are flippantly turning a moment of shared
grief where Jadie Vance, the vice president, goes out of
his way to honor his friend Charlie by traveling halfway

(29:38):
across the country to talk to students at a Turning
Point USA event, and he greets Erica, who just had
watch this truly emotional video that the team put together,
a tribute from Charlie actually to Erica about Charlie talking
about his wife, and jad leans in and Eric will
tell the story, but it says he'd be so proud,

(30:00):
and they hug. It's a moment of shared grief, and
they turned into some sexualized liberal fever dream where they're
projecting their own grossness and their own racism towards Usha
onto really good people. And I find that disgusting, and
by the way, like it is a true insight into
the spiritual core of.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
The left, for sure, for sure, But she did want
us to play this. So this was Erica with Megan Kelly.
If you last weekend, let's play explaining this too. Sixty six.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
For those of you.

Speaker 10 (30:30):
Who know me, I never I'm a very I love
I hug.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Is like you're an intense hugger.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Loss is like hating on A hug needs a hug themselves.
I will give you a free hug anytime you want
to hug. My love language is touch if you will,
but seriously that hug, so I will give you a
play by play like walking They just played the emotional
video I'm walking over. He's walking over. I'm starting to cry.

(30:58):
He says, he's so so proud of you, and I say,
God bless you. And I touched the back of his head.
Anyone who if I have hugged that, I have touched
the back of your head. When I hug you, I
always say God bless you.

Speaker 20 (31:11):
That's just me.

Speaker 10 (31:13):
If you want to take that out of context, go
right ahead again. That to me shows that you need
a hug more than anyone else.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, and I mean listen, she says, God bless you.

Speaker 16 (31:23):
And it was actually a really beautiful, touching moment between
two friends. And just want to reiterate so much gratitude
and thanksgiving for Vice President jad Vance and Second Lady Usha,
who have stood by Erica in this moment of tremendous
grief and sorrow.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
And she's grateful.

Speaker 16 (31:44):
We all are grateful for the way that Jade Vance
has provided such incredible leadership, I mean statesmanship. Not only
was this a tremendous loss to Erica, but this is
a tremendous loss to the entire country, and Jade Vance
rose to the occasion in more ways than one.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
But just think about this.

Speaker 16 (31:58):
This is what's so gross about this moment is that
it's the sneering and the derision and the jeering at
the suffering of a widow just because her slain husband
happened to be conservative, and they think they have the
they have the right to completely smear this moment and
and Erica more directly, I find it tremendously disgusting this
that we're talking like seventy days away from her going

(32:22):
through the unthinkable, and this is their reaction, that's their.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
There would be the reaction. It was their reaction if
you looked online the week after. They're fundamentally gross people,
fundamentally disgusting. They are as let's be Frank Joy Reid
is as hideous on the inside as on the outside.

Speaker 16 (32:39):
Well said, well, I think we dealt with that sufficiently.
I want let's we've been promising it, Blake.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (32:48):
So there's a lot of talk about the fracturing on
the right there there. I would say that that the
enthusiasm has waned in moments, and I think it's important
that we focus and we say what are we thankful for?
Because actually there's a lot to be thankful for. You
we do not have President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
Yeah, and it's especially important. We talked about this good
amount yesterday. We talked about it on Thought Crime as well.
That Charlie and Charlie and the early Americans both believed
it was especially important to express thanks in adversity, in difficulty.
And there's no adversity like what we've had in these
past three months. And there's also a lot of adversity

(33:29):
on the country. And as you say, the movement fracturing apart.
There's people who are upset about one thing or another.
There's almost a bad vibe over the country where people
have decided to fixate on things they are unhappy about
rather than things they are happy about, and this can
easily just become a self perpetuating cycle. And so we
wanted to tag we wanted to reframe things. We wanted

(33:50):
to focus on, this is the end of the year.
What are the things you should be grateful for? And
there are a lot of them, both personally and there
are a lot of them nationally on the political level.
When Charlie was talking at the end of in his
Thanksgiving message last year, Charlie says, God has shown mercy
upon our country, and we've seen that mercy actually manifest.

(34:13):
It wasn't just a hopeful thing. We've seen one of
the things we should never forget to talk about. We
had a year ago we had a complete, wide, open
border with the entire throad world. We had a de
facto trader, Alejandro Maiorcis running the show, letting in gangsters
from China, you know, possible terrorists from Central Africa, everyone

(34:34):
coming in and overnight close the door. President Trump closed
the door. We don't have an open border anymore. We
have a real border. And it happened so instantaneously and
so totally that people allow themselves to forget that it happened,
and instead this is the sort of it's the grievance mindset.
It's the mindset of I'm mad there are not enough

(34:55):
deportations happening quickly enough. We agree, we would like more deportations,
we would like faster deportations, and.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yet we're attempting to do them.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
We actually have the arrest happening, We have deportations being made,
we have multi billion dollar ice hiring expansion to accelerate
it in the following year. We should be thankful for
those things. We should be thankful for a ceasefire in
the Israel Gaza war and the other cease fighters that
have happened, for the progress towards the ceasefire in the
Rush of Ukraine War, the deadliest war in Europe in

(35:26):
nearly a century.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, I totally agree.

Speaker 16 (35:29):
And you know, this is the conundrum that the administration
faces right where they get peace in the Middle East,
something everybody wanted. But then instantly, you know, you see
the chatter and by the way, I've contributed to this,
and I make you know, I make no apologies for it.
But you know, then then it's sort of like domestic

(35:49):
domestic front is not getting enough attention, which is true. Nevertheless,
it's a heck of a job being the president of
the United States. I want to I want to call
out attention to one other thing that worth before. We
talked about it before the show, Blake, And you know,
you can be kind of a hard grater and I
like that about you. But one of the things that
you gave the president in this administration really hard high

(36:10):
marks on was some of the changes within the hiring
policies of the executive branch and so on.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
This they came in. They actually have right wing revolution around.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
There's one back there.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
Yeah, you know, there's a there's that sort of fantastic
fantasy scene because it was written before uh Trump came
back into office where it's describing a possible day one
of the administration with this cascade of executive orders, and
that's pretty much what they had been did in real life.
Trump said, bring me pieces of paper to sign, and
some of those he signed. He repealed orders going all

(36:44):
the way back to LBJ that mandated DEI they didn't
call it that at the time, but mandated DEI affirmative action,
all of these race based, sex based, discrimination based quotas
for how you do things and imposing them on contractors
on the private sector, and he.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Sweeps these things away.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
He goes to these universities that have just gotten unlimited
money from the American people for decades without question, and
he goes to Columbia, He goes to pen and he says,
you guys are doing anti American stuff. You're allowing crazy
students to harass people because they're Jewish.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Or they're white or whatever, and you're not allowed to
do that.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
You actually have to change your admissions so they're fair otherwise,
and you have to have other rules to make sure
there's no harassment otherwise, we're cutting off the money.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
There was a new story just the other day.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Columbia's worried Trump will cut off their supply of international students,
so they're looking to expand their undergraduate class of mostly
domestic admits up to twenty percent. Wow, so more actual
Americans might get to go to Columbia, they might get
to have access to one of the greatest universities in
America for Americans.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, and so many things too.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Just he got rid of those dumb Biden era names
on all of our military bases where they went to
Fort brad Hey, the Fort Seth, the Fort that trained
the men who won World War Two, and Biden says,
get rid of that name and call it Fort Liberty.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I'm grateful for Peter Fort Bragg.

Speaker 16 (38:09):
And by the way, I'm grateful that Charlie fought for
Pete hegg seth Is as hard as he did. Because
we got rid of all of these woke standards. We
got rid of the the We now we have gender
neutral combat standards, got rid of all the you know,
the furries and the LGBTQ poem readings and all this
stuff out of the middle. I'm very grateful for that,

(38:29):
because my brother serves and he says, it's been like
night and day.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
If you look issue after issue, there's so much progress
compared to a year ago. And we'll continue this. You
have to look at where the progress has been made.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 13 (38:51):
Remember remember the fifth of November.

Speaker 14 (38:54):
Make America great forever.

Speaker 16 (38:58):
All right, don't want to show the audience some of
these Charlie Thanksgiving tweets that are just amazing. Go ahead
and throw up two eight. This is a Charlie says,
Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours. We are thankful
for the gift of salvation, our amazing children and God's
mercy on our great country this year. Take a moment
today to be grateful that we did it. By God's
grace alone, we took our country back. Here's one from

(39:23):
November of twenty twenty. Throw up two oh nine. Jesus
Christ is the king of the world. He died for
you this Thanksgiving. Give your life to Christ. How about
this from November twenty twenty four, two seventeen Psalm one hundred,
verse four. Enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
with praise, Give thanks to him, bless his name. And

(39:45):
here's yet another two nineteen. This is from last November.
I'm overwhelmed with gratitude this Thanksgiving. What a time to
be alive. Charlie was an expert at being grateful, with
a whole movement full of people that are really good
at being not so grateful, maybe being a little negative, cavetching,
whatever word you want to put on it. Charlie modeled

(40:07):
for all of us gratitude and thanksgiving and always looking
up to God, which is truly the model from the
First Thanksgiving and onward.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Even in.

Speaker 16 (40:17):
Abraham Lincoln's Declaration of the First Thanksgiving, it was always
looking to God and being grateful to the Almighty for
the providential hand that he's had on this country.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Many of the Pilgrims who celebrated the first Thanksgiving weren't there,
I think, even a year later. And they did it anyway.

Speaker 16 (40:34):
And our country has a history of fasting and prayer,
and especially in the early days of the founders, and
so we need to model what they handed down to us.
Be grateful for the many blessings. And we're going to
continue talking about some of our favorite things that we're
thankful for this year, because there is much to be
grateful for. So we will welcome back National Radio in

(40:56):
just about ten seconds. Hang right there, we'll be right back,

(41:27):
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Speaker 1 (42:39):
Now.

Speaker 16 (42:39):
I know that it was contentious, it was a tough
road to get there, but guess what it funded ICE,
expanded ICE, and it funded our border security, huge, huge win.
Ice was one of the few areas of the US
government that had not ever expanded since its founding. So
since ICE had come onto the scene, it grown, they

(43:00):
had not added personnel. We got that done with the
One Big, Beautiful Bill Act, and I am very very happy.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
About that, the ICE expansion in particular. I'm just looking through.
I encourage you go look up list of executive orders
in the Trump administration. Maybe even look up, look up
what Democrats are complaining about from the Trump admin. You
might find some stuff you like quite a bit. I'm
just looking through here. We got so as of August,
at least twenty one transgender hospitals or clinics had closed

(43:29):
their doors, including the largest one in the country in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Just again, it's like the border.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
It's almost an overnight total, one hundred and eighty degrees
swerve from something that was incredibly evil. And now I'm
so annoyed because I'll run in You'll see people who
will say, actually, that issue was always a distraction. That issue,
that issue doesn't really matter much. It mattered a lot.
They were mutilating children. They still want to do it.
They're fanatical about it. The scale of the evil, how

(43:58):
sinister it was, the scale of the line they had
to tell that you could just a boy could just
become a girl, or the other way around, was so unthinkable,
and the fact that we actually don't talk about it
nearly as much anymore, other than the occasional oh, a
guy goes into a girl's locker room or something. The
things have gotten so drastically better, and that's so heavily

(44:20):
due to who we have in the White House, who
we have making policy in this country, who we have
setting the conversation. And that is an amazing mercy on
our country.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
How about this.

Speaker 16 (44:31):
Core inflation is down to two point one the lowest
since Trump's first term.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Egg prices are down fifty three percent.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
I think I saw gasis.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
You get this.

Speaker 16 (44:40):
There's the cheapest gas in the country Oklahoma two fifty
a gallon, but you can get it here in Phoenix
at three nineteen a goawn three nineteen.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
That's pretty low for Phoenix. Yeah, we had you know.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Usaid, usaid, usaid totally.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
We dismantled this giant foreign aid apparatus that gave money
to a lot of things that once people saw what
it was, they did not care for it. We have
the January sixth partons, a thousand people who were It
was the biggest manhunt in American history to find every
single person who was remotely adjacent to this event and
treating it as the.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
New Pearl Harbor.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
It was this core part of the new left wing
anti Maga third foundation of the country, myth that we
basically need a new constitution to wage war on Maga pardons.
It's just over with. January sixth is done, and we
have Vice President jad Evans. Ye, we don't have Charlie anymore.

(45:36):
We have one of We have the person he saw
as one of his best friends in politics, one of
his closest political analogs in politics, who shares his thoughts
about nationalism, who shares his thoughts about faith, who shares
his thoughts about so many things, And that man is
the Vice President of the United States. Every single day,
he's blossoming as a communicator on X, he's he's hosted

(45:58):
this program, He's done so many things. He's such a
worthy standard bearer for the cause. And Charlie fought so
hard specifically for that. You and I saw it how
much he campaigned for that behind the scenes throughout twenty
four And we have him as.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
As this leader. And I totally agree.

Speaker 16 (46:18):
Jad he's the best, and he's you know, he's got
a bright future ahead.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
That's all we'll say. Here, here's what else. I'll say.

Speaker 16 (46:23):
Thirty one billion dollars in tariff revenue this last month.
I know, Blake, that's not you're on your list, but
it's on my list.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I am also back.

Speaker 7 (46:31):
It works if it were, he ran on it. He
has the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for it. And that
is listen.

Speaker 16 (46:40):
I love I love trying to onshore manufacturing, and I
love the trillions of dollars of pledges. We obviously want
to see those shovel Ready go.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
We'll close the hour with this.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
We have an email from Rita who says I am
thankful for Charlie and the insight of those closest to him.
Thank you very much, Rita.

Speaker 16 (46:55):
We'll be back our two starts in just a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Charlie had a heart for the persecuted year.

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just got a bit more happy for President Trump after

(48:42):
a judge dismissed the Georgia election interference case against him.
The ruling comes after the prosecutor, who recently took over
the case from Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis, said
that he would not pursue the charges. This was the
last case seeking to punish the President for his efforts
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(49:02):
was taken off the case over a quote appearance of
impropriety due to her romantic relationship with the special prosecutor.
She chose to lead the case against mister Trump and
his eighteen co defendants, while it was unlikely that any
legal action would have been moving forward against the president,
especially while he was in office. Other people named in
the case, including former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani

(49:25):
and former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, are
now also free and clear. Now that the case has
been abandoned. Airports across the country are starting to get
more and more crowded as travelers make their way to
their Thanksgiving locations. The day before Thanksgiving is traditionally one
of the busiest travel days of the year. Triple A

(49:45):
estimates that nearly eighty two million Americans will travel this
Thanksgiving holiday, while seventy three million will travel by car,
about six million will fly. Meantime, President Trump is touting
how much more affordable this Thanksgiving is as compared to
years past.

Speaker 15 (50:02):
This Thanksgiving, we're also making incredible strides to make America
affordable again. Walmart announced that the cost of their standard
Thanksgiving meal is twenty five percent lower than just one
year ago. That's a big deal. According to the USCA,
the price of Thanksgiving turkey is down thirty three percent
from its Bidenira highs. Potatoes are down thirteen percent. Hamm

(50:26):
is down fifteen percent compared to last Thanksgiving. So we
are down to a level that we haven't seen in
a long time.

Speaker 20 (50:35):
The President also projects the gas will soon be hovering
around the two dollars a gallon mark. Extending Obamacare subsidies
continues to be a thorn in the President's side and
a challenge for Congressional Republicans who are seeking to do
away with that issue. Leading up to the January thirtieth
government funding deadline. On Tuesday, President Trump said he prefers

(50:56):
not to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies. However, the White
House is reportedly preparing a two year extension as millions
of Americans face the prospect of major premium increases if
and when those subsidies expire at the end of the year.
Democrats are demanding an ascension of the subsidies, but the
White House also says, quote, the President is having ongoing

(51:18):
conversations with members of the administration, members of Congress, and
private sector experts about alternatives. The holiday season in full
swing at the White House's. President Trump pardoned Gobble the
turkey at the White House on Tuesday. A second turkey
named Waddle, was also pardoned, but didn't make it to
the ceremony. The pardons are tradition for US presidents and

(51:41):
they date back decades.

Speaker 15 (51:44):
Gobl I just want to tell you this is very
important or yearby mine conga.

Speaker 20 (51:51):
Partner, President Trump, I'm the first lady, by the way,
celebrating the holiday at mar A Lago in Florida.

Speaker 16 (52:04):
That's a quick check with you, all right, Welcome back
our two of The Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Covid,

(52:25):
executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Nef and
we have a third on set, Daisy Phelps.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Welcome, Thank you.

Speaker 16 (52:33):
So we are going to do something fun here back
by popular demand. I actually missed the first time that
we did this, but I loved the idea of it.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I think we've done it twice, Yeah, twice both times.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
Charlie had to get out of the chair super quickly
one day and I was like, Blake, explain everything that
Charlie just said to me, because I don't know what
we're talking.

Speaker 16 (52:49):
So this is the no dumb questions, uh, and we are.
We've got some voicemails from the audience. We're going to
be looking at your email, so please email us freedom
at Charliekirk dot com, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We're
gonna be hawking your emails this whole hour. And then, Daisy,
you have just some of your own questions.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Yes, I quickly, well, at first I just wanted to
start with like, what actually is on the table in
this Ukraine piece?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yes, that we wanted to hit that.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
We've talked about Ukraine a lot this week, but we
wanted to hit just actually lay out what everyone is
talking about, and I especially wanted to because I think
this piece deal you've heard about is one that Charlie
would have liked a lot, and he would have been
a big fan of it. So there's this twenty eight
point plan. This is what came out a week ago,
and then there's been efforts to modify.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
It, where Europeans have proposed counterplans.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
But I think the nicest thing is the twenty eight
point plan because it seems this was worked on by
the administration directly.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
And so.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
Point one it says Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed, and okay,
that's a formal one. Sovereignty confirmed. That is a fancy
way of saying Ukraine will remain a country, it will
remain independent, will not be annexed, it will not be
absorbed by Russia or anyone else. It'll remain a country.
And it then says this is point two is actually
one of the most important. It is there will be

(54:11):
a comprehensive non aggression agreement between Russia, Ukraine and Europe.
And then this is key, all ambiguities of the last
thirty years will be considered settled. This is why I
was a fan when I read this plan, that the
intent of this is to be a final peace treaty
with no outstanding business. And when we've seen Europe try
to mess with this, A big way they've tried to

(54:32):
mess with it is by introducing ambiguities back into it.
So an important part of this plan, one of its components,
is it would seed land to Russia. More or less.
Let's put up that image we have, was it yes,
and so is it up yet?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yes? There it is.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
And so what it would do is those areas in
red are roughly match places that are currently held by
Russia that America, the international community have considered part of Ukraine.
And these are the places they've captured Crimea in the south,
which is now covered by our Chirun.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
But Crimea it was.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Taken about a decade ago, these others were taken during
the invasion. This would formally cede them to Russia. It
would now be owned by Russia. We would acknowledge russianist
That is the key part.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
Were previously and have always been a part of Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
And always well so yeah, so they were.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
They were part of Ukraine at its independence. So Ukraine
became independent from the Soviet Union in nineteen ninety one,
and so when they became independent, they took all those lands.
Russia has had claim on some of the well has
created generated claims on some of them. There's been a
long source of conflict they invaded over the status of
many of these territories, and that is roughly the area

(55:47):
that they have conquered by force of arms. And this
deal would recognize those captured territories as Russian. That's part
of the removing ambiguities thing.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
So was Russia's initial intent to take over all of Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Or to take these people would debate it. Russia's stated
intention for invading Ukraine was to denazify it. They claimed
Ukraine was run by Nazis. That is highly debatable as
an assertion at minimum, but it does seem their initial plan.
They did. They attacked directly towards Kiev, the nation's capital.

(56:24):
They did they literally had paratroopers land at the airport
of the city. They seemed to believe that Ukraine was
a very weak country and would just collapse almost instantly
once attacked. And in fact, if you follow the news story,
then a lot of Americans expected the same thing. The
Biden administration seems to have offered, oh, Zelensky, you can
flee the country and just come to America.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
And Zelensky, i will say, to his credit, did not
do that.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
I know Charlie and Mania has had a lot of
criticism of Zelensky unjustified grounds, but he did not, and
they fought a lot harder than they expected. So I
think one reason Charlie would support this deal is he
would probably believe Russia would be inclined to respect a
final peace settlement because this war has been a lot longer,
a lot bloodier, a lot more expensive, a lot rougher

(57:14):
on everyone than was expected.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
A lot of wars are like that.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
So is this a win for either party or is
this a pretty mutual compromise.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
I'll try to take the Charlie thing and say the
biggest winners of all would be the Ukrainian people who
are not conscripted and fed into a meat grinder, so
that Washington can feel good about themselves and how they're
fighting Russia and being tough on Russia. You know, we
don't need to kill a bunch of Ukrainian eighteen year
olds so Lindsey Graham can feel tough. Having said that

(57:46):
the peace deal would be seen I would say as
a victory more towards Russia, because it is better for
Russia than the deal that was on the table before
the war began that Russia was offering to us.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
What were they offered.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Russia's deal that.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
They were proposing in early twenty two was essentially, if
you agree that Crimea is part of Russa, because they'd
already occupied that, if you agree not to admit Ukraine
into NATO and not position certain military forces close to Russia.
They were proposing a peace deal along those lines. So
it would have had them have less land, and it

(58:24):
would just would have involved fewer concessions than this agreement.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Why does Russia not want Ukraine and NATO?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
So the most.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
Helpful way to think of it is Ukraine from the
Russian perspective is like the has long been a part
of their country. That Russian culture began in Kiev, and
it was part of the Russian Empire for hundreds of years.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
And you're reminded me of Tucker's interview with Putin.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
Exactly, Yeah, Tucker asked Putin about Ukraine and he goes
this literal half hour answer about the history of Ukraine.
But the core of it is is from the Russian perspective.
They see Ukraine as this core part of Russia. And
so it would be imagine if America had a really
devastating thing and New England broke away and became its

(59:14):
own country. And obviously we have a lot of political
differences from New England, so you could see how they'd
possibly be happy to be independent from us, but we
would all but I.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Wanted to go with New England where America began.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
And then imagine China came along and was suddenly cultivating
New England as an ally and talking about adding them
to the Chinese Belton Road Block, and maybe we should
put some military forces in New England.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
We can maybe put a nuclear missile there.

Speaker 7 (59:40):
And I think even though we would see a lot
of political differences with New England, Oh it's full of
all these insane libs and commies, we would still be
really upset by that.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I think that's the best.

Speaker 7 (59:48):
Way to the Cuban missile crisis. I mean, which more
extreme than that. We've never owned Cuba.

Speaker 16 (59:54):
No, but Cuba being so close to us, we had
this Cuban missile crisis in the nineteen sixties because Russia
was positioning arms right on the in Cuba, which is
what like what's the pinty miles, and that was a huge,
huge geopolitical issue of the time. This is when kids

(01:00:15):
were in schools, were learning to get under their desks
and having to do these nuclear fallout drills. So you know,
the boomer generation remembers this, and so it's sort of
akin to that where you know, you could imagine having
a hostile military force NATO, which is considered one of
the most robust, well funded military alliances in the world,

(01:00:36):
it's probably the most robust. Having that at your doorstep
is not a very promising or delightful idea for the.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
Russian So when they say that they are basically they're
covering all I think you said conflicts over the last
thirty years, putting those to rest. That means then that
Russia there they would be at peace with the parts
of Ukraine that they have gotten back, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
And they would be saying we will not demand anything more,
and we in return would we would end the sanctions,
we would reintegate Russia into the global economy. The objective
of the peace deal would be a true peace deal,
not just a cease fire, not just we stop shooting.
That this is considered the resolution of the conflict. And
I know Charlie verly, very badly wanted that. He thought

(01:01:25):
it was dumb that we were in this new Cold
War with Russia going on forever, when we were when
we have conflicts with China, for example. I think he
viewed this as a distraction and a product of Washington
being unable to move on.

Speaker 16 (01:01:39):
Absolutely waste by the way of American taxpayer dollars and munitions.
So there's that too. We're gonna keep going through the
breaks here radio. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back. More than Charlie kirkshow our two no
dumb questions?

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
I hope we should keep going.

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up pipelines, killing Christians, killing Christians, biolabs and human sex trafficking.

(01:03:29):
Why no investigations into who all is getting kickbacks?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Well, you know what's funny.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
This is actually that popped up as part of the
peace deal because I believe the original proposed piece plan
has an aspect to say, oh and as part of
the peace deal, we'll do an audit for financial stuff
because that's important to Trump to make sure the money
was used well. And the revised piece plan that was
promoted by the Europeans tweaks this too. There shall be
a full amnesty for all actions during the war, which

(01:03:57):
I think a lot of people who have seen how
much corruption there is. There are people in Ukraine who,
while their country has been fighting, have become cent a
millionaires off of aid money. It's always been a very
corrupt country. It's one of the worst things about it.

Speaker 16 (01:04:11):
Well, and I know that there's been a little kerfuffle
in a fallout with MTG, but I will say MTG
was very good on this particular issue. She was demanding
full accountability and a full accounting of where all of
America's dollars have gone, and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I support that idea.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
Still, we're going to welcome back national radio in two seconds.

Speaker 16 (01:04:39):
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We
are doing no dumb questions and we're talking about Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Daisy, you have a long one that you would like
to ask.

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
I think it's going to be a longer explanation, but
we were talking about why the US is the only
country that's positioned to present this piece deal to Ukraine
and Russia. My question. I don't think this is a
dumb question. Specifically, I think that a lot of people
my age would have this question because growing up you
hear a lot about who our allies are. There's so

(01:05:11):
many conflicts that we've gotten in that haven't made sense.
But it's like, Okay, we do have a longstanding agreement
or relationship with this country that it makes sense that
we're in these conversations. I was not aware and I
don't really know why we are allies with Ukraine until
this all started happening in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
So the question is why are we allies with you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
And when did that start?

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
To some extent, that is a good question. Real, So
we had this and we thought we had to have
this on air. Are you familiar with what the Cold
War is? Daisy?

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Okay? So like ask me this. And yet to some extent,
I believe it is about communism, and I do not
think that it was actual boots on the ground conflict.
And I also do believe that it was at some
point in maybe the nineties, maybe the eighties. That's all all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Right, there we go.

Speaker 7 (01:06:09):
I love gen Z so much so. The Cold War
was the Russia used to be the Soviet Union, the USSR,
much bigger country. Ukraine was part of it, Belarus was
part of it. All those stands you can see in
Central Asia, they were all part of it. Was a
much bigger country, and it was communist. It wanted to
spread communism. It was an ideological state seen as a
huge threat in America and the West, as it should be.

(01:06:30):
They were promoting atheism, they opposed free enterprise, they opposed election.
They're just very bad country. And we stood against them.
We had our allies in NATO in Western Europe opposed
to the USSR. Fortunately, communism doesn't work, so their economy
went down into the toilet. They began to have ethnic
fractiousness because it was a multi ethnic empire and because

(01:06:51):
diversity is not always a strength everyone. And so in
nineteen ninety one, the Soviet Union collapses. It breaks into
a bunch of peace. Russia's yeah, nice evty one. They
fracture apart, and Ukraine is one of the breakaway parts.
Other countries break off, Russia's the biggest piece left.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
And what I would say is there we go.

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
The reason, frankly where allies with Ukraine is even after
this happened, we essentially remained hostile with Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Why that happened. We'd need a whole hour to get
into the details of why.

Speaker 16 (01:07:25):
That here, Because we've talked about NATO. NATO was a
reaction to the USSR and the encroachment of Soviet Russia
or communist communist USSR, and so one could ask a
larger question of why did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Exist, why NATO still exist?

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
And instead what we did is we after the war
almost from a fit of just like idealism or because
it was sentimentalism, like oh, these new countries are democracies,
it'd be cool if they could join our cool democracy club.
We expand NATO, so we add Poland, Hungary, Estonia. We
had all these countries in Eastern Europe that used to
be communist and allied with the Soviets. And if you're Russia,

(01:08:06):
the only possible justification for this is, oh, you're expanding
your anti Russia military alliance to be closer to Russia,
and so that hurt relations a lot. And I think
there's also just a lot of lingering anti Russia paranoia.
If you're a sixty five year old veteran of the military,
the first entire half of your career was, oh, we're

(01:08:26):
still hostile towards Russia. You grew up with the Cold War,
and so we've because of this, we've cultivated Ukraine as
this anti Russian country, and Ukraine has differences with Russia
on a whole bunch of things. There's reasons they're in
conflict with each other, and that's we basically, why are
we allies with Ukraine're allies with Ukraine because we are
not friendly with Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Is the biggest reason.

Speaker 16 (01:08:48):
You have to also understand that one of the key
motivators for Vladimir Putin, who came of age when the
USSR fell, is that he sees that as a really
giant mistake that it was allowed to fall. So all
of those countries right there that were allowed to basically
become independent and secede from Russia or the USSR. And
so he is a lot of people suspect one of

(01:09:11):
his key drivers is that he wants to reunite the
lost pieces of the USSR. And he sees Ukraine as
the apple of Russia's eye.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Okay, son, That leads into my next question, what makes
Ukraine different than any of these other countries that I'm
looking at on this map for Ukraine and then they're
going for the other one's next.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
That's what host people who don't like Russia would say.
What I think Charlie would argue and I would agree,
is Russia has made it clear they view Ukraine as different.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Is it was part of Russia longer.

Speaker 7 (01:09:40):
A lot of the people there are ethnically Russian, A
lot of people there speak Russian. It was that historical
heartland of Russia. Russia's repeatedly said, we think Ukraine is
way more important. So for example, Crimea, Finland borders Russia.
They joined NATO over this invasion, and Russia said, we're
okay with that. It's not the end of the world
for us. But they have said we will not allow

(01:10:01):
Ukraine to join NATO. And part of this twenty eight
point piece plan says Ukraine can't join NATO, can't have
troops in Ukraine, And in fact it still says you
can treat it as a violation of NATO's self defense
if we invade Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Again, but you just can't have them joined. Well, that's
something Charlie makes it really key. Is crimea which we
can explain. Is just a second, we will be right back.

Speaker 20 (01:10:34):
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(01:10:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I'm begging the US as all.

Speaker 18 (01:13:08):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
All right, Welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 16 (01:13:14):
No Dumb Questions continues hour two on this Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
We are thankful for No Dumb Questions. I got.

Speaker 16 (01:13:22):
I got an email from Tara. I watch on rav
every day and this is the best show ever. This
fifty five year old really needs this history lesson. Thank
you from Tara.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
Tara, thank you so much for making me feel less
like and moron.

Speaker 16 (01:13:34):
Yeah, you got fifty five year olds and gen zers uniting.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
For this three hundred year old Russian history list.

Speaker 16 (01:13:41):
So do we do we want to keep do you
have more questions?

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
We just covered crime, We did promise a lot of
we promised other topics. We can keep going on this
if you guys want, but we do have Do we
want to do any of the voicemails? Daisy?

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Yeah, we totally can. I think we should probably let's
we can start with twenty four. This is from Steve.
I went through a lot of them. They were pretty good,
but these were the ones that I also had questions about.

Speaker 21 (01:14:07):
All right, good morning. Let me say that I love
Charlie Kirk. I missed Charlie Kirk, and my best to
Erica and all of the team there at Turning Point
USA and Turning Point Action. My question is this, and
the cities of Seattle, Washington, Memphis, and all cities where

(01:14:30):
Trump is sitting in the National Guard, what happens when
the National Guard leaves and we have a corrupt city council,
mayor police chief, etc. Thank you and God bless you.
For all you do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Wow, it's you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
That's That's the crux about what I think I would
I would point out is even in d C most
a lot of a lot of what the National Guard
has done has primarily been I think you'd agree, symbolic.
Having you have the image of people maintaining order in big.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Prominent public places.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
This does free up manpower, It frees up police to
send more guys to dangerous places to make arrests for
other things. But so much of it is also just
the bigger it's the miasma, it's the vibe that's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Think about what twenty twenty was.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Murder rates go up thirty percent overnight, not just in
places where there's riots, they go up in Soutfall, South Dakota.
We had nineteen murders that year, a huge increase from others.
It was like the country had this psychotic break where
it was more okay with committing crimes. People were more
violent and police were less willing to stop them. And

(01:15:44):
what Trump's doing with the National Guard deployments, it's less
that the Guard are literally arresting people and literally stopping crimes,
and much more. It's a bid to say crime is
unacceptable in America, especially in our best cities, in our capital,
and we are going to treat it as a problem
that must be resolved and if not, there will be consequences.

(01:16:04):
And you're trying to shift, Charlie Love the word the
Overton window towards crime is a serious thing. You must
stop and away from what we routinely see where city
officials just don't view crime as a problem. They want
to dismiss charges throughout charges. Let we had that case,
I believe it was in Chicago where this guy tried
set a woman on fire and he had what fifty

(01:16:25):
prior arrests, one hundred prior seventy two prior to seventy two.

Speaker 16 (01:16:30):
And by the way, we've seen instance after instance of this,
and this was and it's almost like the the what's
the what would be a word for it. It's like
it's like the zeitgeist, the spirit of the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Time or something.

Speaker 16 (01:16:40):
Where where you got from the nineties. The nineties was
an era where we started policing cities. We flooded urban
cores with a lot more police officers, and you saw
crime precipitously drop in La New York and then in
big cities all across the country. So the spirit of
the age then was tough on crime. That's when we
got there strikes rule in California, and then city started

(01:17:03):
gentrifying because they were safe to invest in, so business
money floods in, property values skyrocket and we sort of
forget the lessons of the nineties, and slowly but surely
we stopped. We forget the fact that we once lived
in a high crime urban core and we lived with
these problems.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
So then guess what.

Speaker 16 (01:17:23):
That's what started happening in twenty fourteen with the Ferguson
We had the Ferguson effect. That was kind of the
first iteration of the Black Lives Matter movement. And then boom,
twenty twenty we had the George Floyd riots and it's
like all of the lessons of the nineties went out
the window window and here's what else happened. We've had
this slow infiltration and you would agree with this, I

(01:17:43):
believe Blake within especially the legal system, where we started.
We started basically treating crime as well, what race are you,
what's your background? Have you been systemically oppressed by the systems?

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
Spill over in Canada, you just straight up had core actually,
I think in Washington State a court said, oh, you
actually just have to consider what race someone is in
terms of how much you punish them for committing crime.

Speaker 16 (01:18:06):
Because there was a lot of hocus pocus going on
with the data, right, because they would they would essentially say, well,
look at too many black people are incarcerated versus their
white counterparts or their Hispanic counterparts. Well, and the truth,
sadly is, I actually was tweeting about this. Elon gave
me a quote tweet this morning because I said, I said,
we don't have enough people in prison, and we don't
have enough capacity either. That's a thought crime for you,

(01:18:27):
we don't have enough prison capacity. But anyways, there's this
hocus pocus, this kind of woo woo going on with
the numbers, saying, well, then black people must be over policed. Well,
the truth is is that unfortunately a lot of black
people tend to congregate in the urban core, and there's
more crime in the black community. This is something Charlie
was unafraid to address head on directly, and he took
a lot of flak for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
But it's just the case.

Speaker 16 (01:18:48):
And so we stopped policing, we stopped punishing and we
started letting people off. And guess what happens when you
do that, You get a spike in crime. And we've
had that spike in crime since George Floyd. Now a
lot of peop people will then say, well, look at
DC Blake, crime was down thirty five percent, we don't
need the National Guard. Well, it turns out that they
were cooking the books. There was a big investigation that

(01:19:09):
was ongoing within the MPD, within the DC Police Department,
where supervisors were going around telling police officers to downgrade
serious felonies violent felonies, so they didn't show up on
the FBI crime statistics. So my belief is that this
is a national epidemic that they're doing this in cities
all across the country. They're downgrading serious felonies so that

(01:19:30):
the crime rate looks artificially low. And you get this
vibe from places like Chicago and Memphis and DC where
they will tell you crime may be going down statistically,
but I don't feel safer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I don't feel the crime rate going down. Yeah, And
so much of.

Speaker 7 (01:19:47):
This is it's the word you'd use as disorder, which
is it's not just the literal violent crime, it's these
casual seeding of the public space to anti social elements.
So that's what you know, tense cities of homeless guys
just kind of moping out or even this is actually
a very mild one. But for example, in on subways

(01:20:09):
and in public buses, you're not supposed to play loud
music just you know, blast your phone on speaker phone.
And what is it one hundred percent known phenomenon is
that there'll be young men who just go and as
a performatively hostile act, they'll blast their music really lous.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Sound pollution, yeah, sound pollution.

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
And you everyone it just has to put up with it, because, okay,
if it's like if it's a young if it's a
young black man, a fifty five year old guy is
not going to go up or want a young woman
is not going to go up and say turn your
music off. That's inappropriate because we'll be frank, they'll be worried,
they'll get killed or assaulted or something really horrible, or
someone will record them on their cell phone and blast

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this paren on TikTok. And the way you have to
stop that is you actually have to have authorities. The
authorities punish this or think of something that's non violent
turnstile jumping. How demoralizing it is it for you to
be this, you know, this sucker who has to pull
out who's pulling out your card to pay three dollars
to ride on the subway train? And then you see

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teenagers jump over it, get on. No one stops them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
You have to stop these low level things.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
That is so important to the public's morale since they
live in a successful society.

Speaker 16 (01:21:18):
I think so much of the public debate nowadays is
between chaos and order. You said disorder, it's chaos, which
is the Democrats seem to love it. They seem to
sow chaos into the system by their policies, by this
pandering to criminals and illegal immigrants. They always seem to
pick the side of the illegal immigrant, the criminal, the

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systemically oppressed, overlobbiding American citizens. And I think that's what
we saw on twenty twenty four is that finally the
country said enough and so they want more aggressive policing,
They want more muscular policing. And you just have to
to your point at kind of full circle moment, you
have to assert a new Overton window. You have to
assert a new zeitgeist. That says we are going to
be a law and order country. We don't have to

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live like this. You can just do things right. So
but by the way, the caller's question was, Blake, what
happens when you get corrupt new leadership in town. Well, unfortunately,
you're probably going to revert back to the chaos and
the disorder of corruption. Right, And so that's why local
elections matter. That's why we have to keep our pedal
to the medal and keep insisting on law and order,

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keep insisting that we lock up career criminals. You know, Blake,
I actually believe let's get into oh, I just actually
believe that if you if you incarcerated, let's say there's
probably five hundred thousand people in this country that deserve
to be in prison that are not. Let's just say
maybe that's a low number, but if you got rid
of the career criminals, you would see crime dry.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Up really quick. All right, let's see we have got more.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
Of these Iowa one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Yeah, let's talk. Okay, I have brode what this is
going to be. Let's do two sixty nine from Scott
as a voter.

Speaker 17 (01:22:51):
In Iowa, home to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chairman, I
want to ask your view on how that committee's delay
and rigid adherence to the outdated blue slip process contributed
to this week's outcomes regarding James Comey and Letitia James.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
So my question before we get to his question is
I don't know what I don't even know what he
acts because I.

Speaker 8 (01:23:16):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Process.

Speaker 7 (01:23:18):
This is a good question an aspect of So, the
president appoints judges, they're called Article three judges.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
That's so it's not just the Supreme Court.

Speaker 7 (01:23:26):
Trump can appoint people to the Court of Appeals and
to the district court. And a lot of district courts
are they match basically state boundaries. So for example, there's
the Southern District of New York that is a federal
court that covers southern New York where New York City is.
Or I think there's a district for South Dakota. There's
a district for different parts of California. There's a bunch

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of these. And by tradition, when you've nominated judges to
serve on these district courts in a specific state, it's
been with some like approval of the senators from that state.
And so what that has meant, for example, is you
get more conservative judges even under Democrat administrations in red states,

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and you get more liberal judges in blue states because
they're going to have these blue senators who will not
allow you to just appoint whoever you want. And this
has I guess you could say the upside of this
would be get you have judges who are a little
more in line with their states. But the downside is obvious.
A lot of our most important jurisdictions, New York City,
the Bay Area, Los Angeles, they're in these blue states

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that are just going to have blue judges, and you
get more liberal rulings as a result. When Okay, we've
had these Republicans in office for so long with Senate,
why don't we have more conservative courts that will are
delivering conservative rulings on things. How much is this playing
a role in things? It definitely is playing a role.
I don't think it played a super specific role.

Speaker 16 (01:24:53):
In the Komi ruling unless so here's here's the deal.
This is Judge Cameron McGowan Curry. So she was actually
from she was appointed by President Bill Clinton, who's a Democrat. Yeah,
in March nineteen ninety four. But she originally was to
the U. S. District Court of South Carolina. At the time,
a blue slip policy wasn't in effect. And guess who

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was chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee at the ten was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
It already Grassley?

Speaker 7 (01:25:20):
He's been around Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Oh, whoa yeah, Joseph Robert that Biden get this.

Speaker 16 (01:25:25):
South Carolina's two senators of ninety four were Strom Thurman,
a Republican, and Ernst Holings, a Democrat, and both the
Republican and the Democrat gave a positive blue slip on
that particular none an important thing.

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
The blue slip is a thing, and we probably should
move on from it and get actual conservatives in court.
But there's so many other things, and one of those
is just we have to be really good about who
we're putting in courts, because conservatives have for a long
time lagged on treating these as hugely important ideological actions.
To get really conservative people with good values in the

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court positions.

Speaker 16 (01:26:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
We will be right back.

Speaker 14 (01:27:03):
For one hundred percent American Maid and we darn proud
of it. The Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 16 (01:27:14):
This is interesting, Priscilla says, not chaos versus order, chaos
versus control. Flashback to the Get Smart TV series the
nineteen sixties. I didn't watch that one, this one says.
Robert says, Blake is ignorant of the pre twenty twenty
two history of Ukraine. Maybe we should you should dive

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into that email and see if that if there's any.

Speaker 7 (01:27:38):
He's calling it, He says, I'm spouting neokon bs. Oh
you no offense, Robert, I take that. I take that
a little personally. What I am trying to do is
I am trying to be fair minded. So I've repeatedly
referenced what Russia's perspective on it would be, what those
a post Russia's perspective on it would because that is
what is dictating things.

Speaker 22 (01:27:59):
I I assure you, I'm not a Are you unaware
that the state of Ukraine and its borders were arbitrarily
made by Lenin and Stalin in nineteen twenty two, is
one of the USSR's Soviet republics.

Speaker 6 (01:28:10):
That's true, if it helps Robert, I am ignorant of
all Ukraine history, not.

Speaker 16 (01:28:15):
Just We have another voicemail coming up. Yeah, yes, okay,
we're going to get that. We're going to welcome back
radio and then we're going to do another voicemail. Send
us your email's Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
We'll be right back. All right.

Speaker 16 (01:28:40):
Oh this is great, Kevin says Andrew. I've heard Memphis
officers call into Memphis Morning News that confirm what you
are saying. Crimes are being downgraded here in the mid
South area. To keep the statistics down, y'all continue to
do the work that needs to be done in christ Kevin,
thank you. So I told you it was a national
phenomenon because you had the spike after George Floyd and

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all these blue cities want to be like, it's not
We're not crime ridden here. Don't worry, don't nothing to
see here. It makes perfect sense. Okay, we have another voicemail.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
We are in the No Dumb Questions hour two sixty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Is an ex voicemail. I yeah, I let's just listen
to it and then I have something to say.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Hello.

Speaker 23 (01:29:19):
This has been from Central Florida wondering what the administration
is going to do about what's going on in Ethiopia, Somalia,
Nigeria with all the Christians being persecuted and being killed.
Will love to know what Trump plans on doing and helping.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Okay, So one, I think this is a really good question.
But two, I want everyone to know. The reason I
know about this situation is from Nicki Minaj, who has
been talking about it everywhere she's doing press conferences. She's tweeting.
I know Riley and I have been talking about about
it a lot. Nicki Minaj is really really in on
this Ethiopian crisis for Christian.

Speaker 7 (01:29:58):
Which is interesting because she's not from She's Trinidadian, I believe, right,
from Trinidad and Tobago and the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I haven't that would be fun though, yeah, I believe.

Speaker 7 (01:30:09):
So, I don't know if she now I'm.

Speaker 16 (01:30:13):
Looking at I can I just while you're looking this up.
So on October thirty first, Trump designated Nigeria as a
country of Particular concern. On November one, he threatened to
halt all US foreign aid and deploy military guns ablazing
if killings continue. November two ordered the Pentagon to refer

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to his Department of War to prepare for possible action,
including troops or air strikes, and then November twenty one
labeled the violence a genocide against Christians during a Fox
News interview.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
So he's been ratcheting up his language.

Speaker 16 (01:30:46):
And of course this is about Boko Haram, which is
a radical Islamist group that is tardier if.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
You want to.

Speaker 7 (01:30:52):
We talked about Ukraine being a somewhat unnatural country with
Russian portions. Nigeria is. It's an insanely unnown trouble much
the top. It literally is on a scale. If you
start at the south of Nigeria, you have Christian areas mixed, mix, mix.
You get up into the north and it's not just Muslim,
it's radical Muslim. They're trying to boko Haram roughly translates

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as Western knowledge forbidden or like education forbidden. There they'll
do things. They do insane atrocities. You know, you'll they'll
kidnap Christian girls and turn them into sex slaves for
their soldiers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Nigeria should very obviously.

Speaker 7 (01:31:34):
I'm probably going to start a diplomatic incident by just
saying this. Nigeria should not be one country. Nigeria should
probably be several countries. Maybe the Nigerians will get angry
about this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Well, it's you have.

Speaker 16 (01:31:43):
I mean, some estimates place it at almost one hundred
and twenty five thousand Christians have died between twenty twenty
three and twenty it'd be on the high level.

Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
It's a nation almost evenly split between Christians and Muslims.
But I believe the Muslims are growing faster, so that's
a very dire situation to be in. You're a Christian
in the South, and then it's the same thing. Why
is Ethiopia the same issue. Ethiopia is historically one of
the oldest Christian countries in the world. It's been Christian
since I believe the three hundreds or the four hundreds.

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I have a story here and they But the country
is it was, It's large, it has a lot of
Islamic areas, so it has a lot of civil strife,
and Christians get caught in the crossfire. And certainly we're
seeing that our administration has at least adopted it as
something worthy of interest for us to care about the
fate of Christians around the world.

Speaker 16 (01:32:33):
Philip in the Bible, Yes went to Ethiopia. Yes, and
he baptized the Ethiopian Unich as well. So one thing
I will say that was very telling. So I was
actually got an uber ride a guy. The guy was
Ethiopian and we were talking about Islam in Ethiopia, and
he said, when he was growing up there was a

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very small minority of Muslims in Ethiopian. He remembers playing
with them as a kid. They sort of minded their
own business. They were a small SMA minority, but now
he said it's probably about like thirty percent in his
area of Ethiopia. And he said, now they're taking over.
They're taking over the streets, they're taking over public places,
they're worshiping allowed, they've got the Muslim called a prayer.

(01:33:16):
And he was like, I warn you in America, don't
let this happen. They will take over.

Speaker 7 (01:33:21):
And this is places they can get a lot more
aggressive about it. These are weak states. You don't have
a police force that can come in enforce order. You
can have an aggressive, assertive Islam take over a city,
kill a lot of people. And what I will say
is Charlie would oppose more US boots on the ground
in more countries. He didn't want foreign wars, but he
would like that for once America does treat the survival

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of Christians as a priority abroad. We did, we invaded Iraq,
we did all these interventions, and it almost always Christians
died in the crossfire. So it's nice for us to
acknowledge that that's bad.

Speaker 16 (01:33:54):
By the way, Rich says that we forgot that the
Ukraine was the bread basket of the former USSR.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
True, very fair point. That's true. That's where all the
food was. That was fun.

Speaker 7 (01:34:02):
This is a lot of fun. People want more history content.
We've got to find more history stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
We could keep going if.

Speaker 16 (01:34:07):
We want, but for radio, in real America's voice, we
bid you ado happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
We will see you next week.