May 25, 2025 • 51 mins
SEGMENT 1: Tim Clinton interviews Samuel Rodriguez
SEGMENT 2: Tim Clinton interviews Tim Murphy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into Real America's voice news. This is Sunday the
Road Forward. Change continues coming at US at warp speed
out of Washington from the Trump administration. And hey, it's
a Memorial Day weekend. It's sacred time to commemorate all
the men and women who have died in military service
for the United States of America. All this and more
as we kick off summer. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll
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be your host our special guest joining us this week.
He's dynamic pastor, movie producer, author's civil rights activist, and
television personality. President of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.
Sam Rodriguez is back. He's a practicing licensed psychologist, author,
former legislator, and Navy veteran. Consults with mental health and
public policy with national organizations, and speaks extensively throughout the
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United States.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Doctor Tim Murphy is with us.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He's evangelist and Marine Corps Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is
back with us and he's retired Major General of the
United States Army.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Bob Dees thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
US.
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Christ Love Sweorthy Coy.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Swot Well.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Change continues coming at US at warp speed out of
Washington from the Trump administration. This week, the Senate unanimously
approved a twenty five thousand dollars tax break for tip
workers that one Big Beautiful Bill is advancing. And President
Trump and Secretary Hexeth announced the Golden Dome missile defense
system for the United States. And this weekend, we're celebrating
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Memorial Day as we kick off summer. Memorial Day weekend
is traditionally seen as the start of summer grilling and chilin,
hitting the lake, barbecue in big race weekend, the n
five hundred, the Coca Cola six hundred. Maybe you or
your family have plans for the weekend, Hey listen, don't
skip out on church, and be sure to spend some
time reflecting on those who gave their all that full
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measure of devotion. I'm talking about those fallen heroes who
served our country and paid the ultimate price. They laid
down their lives so that we could live in worship
with freedom in the greatest country in the world, the
United States of America. Memorial Day was formerly known as
Decoration Day. It's a sacred day again to honor the
men and women who have died in military service for
our country and to honor their families. Several national traditions
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on Memorial Day include flying a flag at half staff
from dawn until noon, placing flags on graves and national cemeteries,
and a national Moment of Remembrance at.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Three PM on Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I remember as a boy Dubois, Pennsylvania, Morningside Cemetery Memorial
Day weekend, my dad would take us for a drive
through a sea of American flags, basically representing those who
had served our great country. Timmy said, some game, and
you need to know that freedom isn't free. Not far
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too from my childhood home. As another memorial called Brad's Hill,
It's a memorial to one of America's finest killed in Iraq.
My son Zach and I, when we go up to Pennsylvania,
we try to go buy there. It's a place where
I remind him if freedom isn't free, who are those
gold Star families? They're heroes who died in combat from
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World War Two till now and those families who have
lost that loved one in military service. President is expected
to go to Arlington National Cemetery on Monday morning and
place a reef on the tomb of the unknown soldier
president and his administration.
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They're putting a.
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Big emphasis, a strong emphasis on a well supported military,
and this is also National Military Appreciation Month. Make sure
you do something in person on social media this weekend
to honor and do your part. Romans thirteen seven says
rendered therefore unto all honor, to whom honor is due.
Strapping as we jump head first into our discussion today.
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on Sunday the Road Ford, I'm gonna pray.
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We're going to get started. God be with us.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Thank you for those who serve and served our great country.
For those who gave the full measure of devotion. God,
we honor them. Thank You for the freedoms we have
in this country. I pray a special blessing over this
entire weekend. I pray a blessing over this particular program, Use.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It for your glory. I pray all this in the
strong name of Jesus. Let's get started.
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Joyce now Sangue Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He's the president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference,
the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization. He's also lead pastor
New Season Church in Sacramento, California. Sam, welcome back, Thank
you for joining me, Thank.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
You for having me. Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Been a wild couple of weeks, a couple of months, really.
I think since January twentieth, I mean the President has
hit the ground running. He's running at warp speed. I
mean absolutely wild. Everything he's knocking out, getting done, He's
sending a message, and I don't think he's going to
slow down, do you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Everything from the economy to foreign policy, his recent trip
to the Middle East, confronting South African racism apart TID
two point zero, imagine that, and doing it all with swag,
doing it all with great deliberation, with a stronger commit
into affirming our Jeneo Christian value system as to saw
through the National Day of Prayer and so forth. It's
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an amazing time.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Indeed.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh, by the way, Tim, I don't think it's a
coincidence that ever since this administration came in, we're looking
at some inroads now.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
As reported by David.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Kinneman and Barna a quote unquote, Christianity is making a
comeback in America. It can't be coincidental, my friend Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Also, everybody knows there's a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And it's not just energy in Washington, there's energy across
the country. People are saying, America's back, America's coming back.
It's like the train has left this you better get
on the bus. And you know, it seems like everything
that he was getting pushed back on from tariffs everything else,
they're saying, Ah, he's gonna blow it all up. Sam,
it looks like these dominoes are falling in place.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Faith is back, family is back, common sense is back, Logic,
reason our back. Science is back.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Human anatomy, biology, and physiology they are back. And the
dominoes are every single time you hear a predictive model
and we talked about the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
These tariffs will result.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
In super hyper inflation. Hey, tied, the inflation report just
came in. It's going down at pass.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We haven't seen in four years.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Four years.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So every single doom and gloom report is actually countered
by what a truthful outcome demonstrating that something is happening
in America.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
America is back.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I haven't seen this sort of America is back, sort
of model since Ronald Reagan was president. America is back.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Memorial Day weekend, Sam, people reflect on those who gave
all the full measure of devotion. And there's something about
when you press in and you really take a look
at it, and you start thinking about how freedom isn't free,
and there's honor that begins to define everything that you
do throughout the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
When I think of President Trump and where he's at,
We'll watch him go to Arlington Cemetery Monday morning for
a Memorial Day placing a reef at the tomb of
the Unknown Soldier and more people will basically stand at attention.
They'll get that moment of honor, of recognition, that solemn moment.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
In the midst of it, there seems to be something
inside the president right now that the American people are
buying into, and that is it's different, He's different. This
is not Trump one point oh, this is Trump two
point zero. Maybe it was that Brushwood death and Butler
Pennsylvania is something. But there's something very different and passionate
about him right now.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So he has a mandate, and the mandate in his wording,
God has provided time and space. God protected him for
such a time as this to restore America because America
is unbelievably important on the face of his planet. So
goes America, so goes the world.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It is our Jeneo.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Christian value system that makes us exceptional, the fact that
we believe that our rights come from God and not
from each other or from government. They come from God.
And Donald Trump is demonstrating that when we affirm that
Jeneo Christian value system, it's a worldview, and it is
the worldview that will serve as a deterrent to communism
and Marxism and socialism and Wokism and cancel culture. That
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worldview is prevailing again because of his incredible leadership.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yes, hats, stars.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And stripes, our national anthem, they once again begin to
resonate and we get goose pimples and chills once again.
Because of Donald Trump's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Leadership, Sam, there was a real beat down on people
of faith. I mean there really was. You couldn't mention
God much on social media without getting hammered. But it's
like God is making this comeback. You reference that across
the America is like revival going on the barn and
research showing that young men, in particular millennials gen Z
are coming back to court. I mean they're coming to
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Christ and Drove Seriously, there's an upswing. It's a surge. Sam,
I'm just thinking about culture. I mean, it's it's it's
wild what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, let me give you four words. Four words.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Let me just speak to your audience and even to
those that may be watching this that are.
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Not part of our.
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Christian worldview, our Christian faith.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
For everyone out there that is suffering from acid reflux
because quote American idol is becoming two Christians, For everyone
who is suffering heartburn, because NFL football players continue to
give glory to Jesus at the end of the football game.
For everyone out there with great anks and consternation because
God and Jesus are being elevated into public sphere like
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ever before.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
There are four words. Get used to it.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And I say that respectfully because it's out of the bag.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
My friend.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It is.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There is a commitment now to never again sacrificing truth
on the al troup of expediency. We will never be silent,
we will never hide our faith ever again, and intimidation
will not work.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
This is the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So get used to it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know, the president could have turned away, Sam, elected,
went back in office. He doesn't have to quote place
faith as a centerpiece of his administration. But he's the
one openly saying God is back. We want God in
this place seriously. And then with the Faith Office going
into the West wing, Sam, you're seeing the Religious Liberty Commission,
this anti Christian biased task force being established.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It is in full swing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It is in full swaying.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And some of our mutual friends were recently appointed to
that and we're so excited for that opportunity. But yes, indeed,
so it's not rhetorical to You're right, Donald Trump could
have said I garnished what eighty six eighty eight percent
of the evangelical vote, and I'm not ready for re
election again, so I'm done.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But rather he's doubling down an affirming faith as the
centerpiece of everything we do as Americans. Dove debt, someone
who was driven by principle and not by political expediency.
So we're gonna see religious liberty protected, not just for
three years, but hopefully you'll be codified in such a
way that it will be protected from my children and
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my children's children for generations to come.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Sam want to close this way where we started closing
thoughts on America Memorial Day weekend, Memorial Day and honoring.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Our falling, our war debt.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, Jim, I am compelled to reconcile the Barner report
of America's making a combat. Christianity in America's making a comeback,
especially with millennial and generations. E Man, with the men
and the women who are buried in Arlington and across America.
We must honor Proverbs twenty two, verse four. True humility
and fear of the Lord lead to honor, richest and
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long life. Honor honors everything. My uncle died in Korea.
My cousin died in Iraq. We are here, you and
I are here having this conversation because our forefathers paid
the ultimate price. So let us remember the price that
has been paid, which makes let's not be negligent with
what God has placed upon us, this blessing called America,
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and we must be vigilant for such a time as this.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
We will always remember and give honor to whom honor
is due. Sam Rodrigueze, I'd like to have you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Thank you for joining me, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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clinical psychologist who also served in the US House of
Representatives representing Pennsylvania's eighteenth Congressional district. He has written several
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best selling books, including his latest, The Christ Cure Tim,
Biblical Ways to Heal from Trauma, Tragedy, and PTSD. Doctor Murphy,
welcome back, Thank you for joining us. Happy Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yes, it's a good time remember and stay for all
of us, for all those who gave all.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Tim, you know, everybody typically thinks of Memorial Day of
getting out, grilling and chilling. It's the what Indy five hundred,
Coca Cola six hundred, It's big race weekend. But again,
it's so much more than that. This is where we
honor our war dead and Tim, you spent a lot
of time in Washington, d C. When I think of
DC and I think of Memorial Day, I think of
Arlington Cemetery, I think of the President going there and
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putting a reef down at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier,
and so much more. I took my son Zach up there,
you know, Zach, and we walked through a very solemn
time for the two of us when he began to
realize the cost of freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Freedom isn't free, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
And I also served in the Navy as a psychologist,
and I would when I was in Congress, I joined
and I would travel over to Bethesda Hospital which became
Walter Reed Hospital and work on a traumatic brain injury unit.
And realized that these are people who gave and many
of them just wounded beyond repair, sadly, and some being
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repaired who gave a great deal too, and there's many
who didn't make it. And that is what this day
is about. It's not about celebration, although there's many a
parade out there for this time, but it's really a
way of a pleasant remembrance of a sad event. And
that is when we recognize that about one percent of
the population serves in the military, but of that we
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have some who have given their whole life, millions of them.
And to think of the joy of having known that
there are people who have given their life, oftentimes for
people don't never make but given their life to protect
us all. It's a sense of awe and inspiration as
well as some sadness that they're gone.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Jim Honor dignity. In my mind, they go with our military.
That's the way it should be. I know, for the
last couple of years it's been a little bit of
a downer and people took a lot of shots at
what was happening in the military.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But there's a restoration.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Got a new sheriff in town, somebody who I think
really uplifts and cares about the military and their family.
Tim it makes all the difference in the world.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Makes a huge difference. I mean, you look at even
the numbers of people who are in recruiting that there's
more who are wanting to join all the branch of
service because they recognize now that they have a leader
in charge who's going to look after them, not send
them into an unnecessary war, not leave them unprotected, not
repeat an event like Benghazi or the box withdrawal of
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in Afghanistan which people were killed unnecessarily. So people want
to know if they're going to risk their life, something
that's going to become of it. You had mentioned Arlington
Cemetery before. I too have been there, and I to
have even participated in one of the laying in the reefs.
It's hard to do that without shedding a tear. And
when people in the service know that there's leaders who
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are looking out for them, who are really going to
lead and try and avoid war. But if they are
going to be involved in a war, make sure we're
in it to win it and not just to be
passive participants. Makes a massive difference in people's courage because
then you know someone's got your back, they got your right,
you got the left, they got your front, and so
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there's a greater strength that accelerates person's bravery.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Jim.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
President Trump often makes a big deal out of gold
Star fan. I know you have served the great state
of Pennsylvania many many times in Congress and more. Tim,
I grew up in Central Pennsylvania. A lot of the
people I grew up with served in the military. I
remember March seventeenth, nineteen seventy eight, raised on my right
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hand there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and going on to Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
But Tim, there's a place up in Central PA close
to my home where I grew up as a boy,
little place called Brad's Hill, and it's the really a
remembrance place of a young boy up there who gave all.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
In Iraq.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And every time I take my son Zach up there.
It's kind of like my dad walking me through dou
Boys Morningside Cemetery on Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Was the sea of flags in there place by pretty
much every gravestone that was up there. Tim It was
that again constant mind that freedom isn't free. And when
you think of gold Star families, it really comes home.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
It does. And these are parents who also gave all that.
The families who raised a son or a daughter with
great expectations of how they would live their life, and
they would live to see their children and grandchildren grow up.
When there's a loss of life in combat and military,
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well what a bittersweet thing that is for families. I've
been to several funerals myself of people who died in
Iraq and Afghanistan or desert storm, and I share your
memories the visions of going to a cemetery, and really
that is something I hope everybody does as part of
Memorial Day. What a great tradition that would be for
any family. Okay, have your barbecue, have your family together
in the afternoon, but go there in the morning. And
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there were the day before put some flags up on
any grave that you see that's a veteran that isn't decorated,
and take a moment to pray there. It's a powerful
thing to remind us that even though one percent serve,
their families serve, and all of us are there that
have a duty and honor to share that honor that
obligation by honoring them.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
When I think of military too, and I think of
those who've served, who've been in combat and more, there's
an old expression when war comes home, and people use
that as a way to begin talking about mental health
related issues. Here we are in May, which is Mental
Health Awareness Month, and you have a real passion for
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helping people understand the challenges that military veterans go through
and their families. You want to bring that to the forefront.
Talk a little bit about that passion of yours and
where we're at, what we can all be thinking about
and praying about.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Thanks Well. I specialize now in working with trauma and
depression anxiety for military and first responders. A lot of
those first responders of veterans themselves too. When one is
in the military, you feel that you can handle lot
because you have the camaraderie of your brothers and sisters
and arms, where they're with you. That's really important to
have it. Once one comes home, however, you suddenly find
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where is everybody now? And even friends or neighbors they
don't quite understand. They may say some kind words, but
they don't quite understand that loss can begin to make
some things worse. When then one is reflecting on particularly
traumatic things they have seen in war, and these can
be combat situations, they can be horrific accidents that someone
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sees their witness to it. They may have lost a
dear friend, they may have seen some disaster take place.
Those traumatic thoughts continue to wear on us. It's like
the videotape replay that won't stop. And each time that happens,
our brain, our body, our heart, our spirituality will react
to that and grind away at us, build up our stress,
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accelerate our stress. Hormones bring on more depression and anxiety. Well,
when a person has a hard time shaking that and
they don't have a spiritual length, they can sometimes say
I've got to get out of this mental pain or
I've got to get to this physical pain, and they
start to think the only way out is death. It's
a that is a temporary solution, or excuse me, it's
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a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And that's what
you want veterans to know. You've seen the numbers. It ranges, well,
the VA just changed the way they read data, so
it's like seventeen a day, but we really know the
number of veterans who die each day could be as
high as thirty or forty, particularly high among Vietnam veterans.
As they're retired there now they have time with their thoughts.
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Things start to ache on them. And we know that
more have died by suicide, after Desert Storm, after Iraqi Freedom,
after the Afghan War, more have died by suicide than
by combat. It's almost twice as many from Vietnam have
died from suicide. This is why at a moment, at
a time like this Memorial Day. Yeah, Veteran's day is good,
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and you thank everybody for their service, but a time
like this let them know that any of their service
was valuable. Others may have died, but say, we don't
want you to die now. Don't be a casualty of
war now, And so honoring people remembering them sometimes just
saying them at a time of Memorial Day, Hey, do
you have any friends that you're thinking of you're remembering
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on a day like this. That's a really cool and
heartfelt way to connect with the veteran. Now they may say, now,
I don't want to talk about it. That's cool, but
they may say, yeah, thanks for remembering. And to even say,
is there anybody I can pray for today? Any gold
Star family that you know of, anybody who've lost, can
we share a prayer? I'm telling you that would lift
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a burden off of many a veteran's shoulders to know
that they don't have to carry on this fight alone.
And the memories of those who have been lost.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
What I'd like to have you, Tim, thank you so
much for joining's Doctor Tim Murphy. If people want to
learn more about you and your work, where can they go?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Tim?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I have a website. It's doctor Tim Murphy dot com.
Dr Tim Murphy dot com. And he mentioned my book
Before the Christ Cured, Ten Biblical Ways to Heal from Trauma,
Tragedy and PTSD. I hope you reading it really as
a handbook for the broken and those who love them.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Coming up next he's retired Major General of the United
States Army Bob D's.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
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Speaker 1 (27:43):
Joyce now is retired Major General Bob D's. He's a
decorated military leader with over three decades of service. Now
advocates for leadership development and mental health through his work
as an author and speaker. He currently serves as the
CEO of the National Center for Healthy Veterans. General D's
what I'd like to have you happy Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Well, thank you, Doctor Clinton. Great to be with you,
and I appreciate our long term relationship and trying to
help others together.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Bob, I was talking to you before we got on
the air just about your ongoing service to veterans, and
you know, I've had numerous conversations about Veterans Day and
Memorial Day and more. But Bob, stepping back and as
you reflect on just going into the weekend and the
honor you know by the way, something's changing in America.
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I mean, the spirit of America is back, and the
honor that's coming back to our military, this strong national
defense and so much more. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
But Bob, just some reflections out of your heart as
we go into a Memorial Day.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, you bet well. For those that have observed the
selfless service of our fighting men and women all across
the world, Memorial Day is perhaps a day of celebration,
but more importantly, it's also a sober day, a day
of remembrance, a day of remembering the great sacrifice. A
long time ago, when I was a young lieutenant, my
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Rto died at my side, and I recognized that that
mission that I'd received at West Point, of take care
of the troops and accomplish a mission had sort of
been branded on my forehead. And then when I got
out and that happened and I saw the selfless service
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of the blue collar workers, the soldier sayers, theirman marines
in the military, it went from my head to my heart.
And then eventually it went from my heart when I
saw more of that, the suicides, etc. To my gut,
and it became a divine calling to take care of
of our troops in various ways and their families. And
so on this day, I think of those troops that
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have lost their lives certainly the ones I've known personally,
but the thousands and the thousands that have given their
lives on behalf of a grateful nation. I placed many
coins that a soldier's cross after a soldier has lost
his life, and I've folded many flags with widows and
given them to her in most cases, on behalf of
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a grateful nation. So it's a sobering time, and there
are plenty of things we can talk about. But when
I lost the lives, you know, I was over people
who lost their lives in various situations. I always remember
that we are to honor the fall and we are
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to lead the living. So when we honor the falling
on Memorial Day, it's a sober time. It's a sacred
time to honor that sacrifice of life. Christ said no
greater love, and so we see no greater love underneath
each one of those tombstones that have given their lives
for the nation and for their people on their right
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and left, and then lead the living. Although the emphasis
on Memorial Day those that have actually lost their lives,
we must also remember the veterans and the active duty
military and their families. And so we in this nation
need to give strong support and good guidance and counsel
and leadership to those that live and are prepared to
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give their lives in the future on our behalf. When
I think, that's what comes to mind tim at first.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know, when I think of Memorial Day, we'll see
images of Ourlington Cemetery. We'll probably well watch the President
go Leah Reef at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier
on Monday. Bob, I think of it being national, but
it's very local. Not far from where I live is
a little town called Bedford, Virginia. You're very familiar with
it and the D Day memorials there, and they talk
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about the Bedford Boys, how they were just absolutely wiped
out on D Day there on the shores of Normandy,
and I just think about going through that town and
it's just a bedroom community.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
There are a lot of flags, there's a lot of
pride there.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You'll go through town here over the next two weeks
and you're going to see on every corner, you know,
some type of reminder of the history and the love
for America. That's sair, Bob, and I think that's what Memorial.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Day is to me.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's just about the families that probably don't get a
lot of recognition, But who faithfully and out of duty,
who raised that right hand and said, hey, I'm going
to serve my country with every ounce of energy I
have so that we can live free together.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
That's such a good point, and I think it emphasizes
the fact that these are not nameless tombstones or statistics.
These are fathers and brothers and sisters and mothers, spouses,
all sorts of relationships. And when that person is lost,
it's like pulling the roots out a family in many ways,
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and it's so painful, and it's not something that goes away.
You'll never forget the loss of that loved one. And
so you're right, Spiritual worship is to in fact honor
them on places at times like Memorial Day, places like
Arlington Cemetery.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Bob, the National Center for Healthy Veterans. You now lead that,
and you and your wife, and it's amazing what God's
doing in and through share with us a little bit
about the mission and what's been happening.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Well, it's just a privilege, Tim to be leading this organization.
We talked about the effectiveness of the Iron Dome, and
it's an integrated effort well, that's what we do at
the National Center for Healthy Veterans. We're a holistic integration
of proven best practices. Gratefully, we've been able to take
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a three hundred and thirty nine acre of God's creation.
The Japanese would call it on forest bathing. That's therapeutic
in itself. And then we've put together a very intentional
program of dignified work to provide purpose, self esteem, community
living in tiny homes. We soon will have forty four
tiny homes. The last ones are completing construction now, and
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that defeats isolation, one of the primary causes of veteran suicide.
And then we go on. We have faith based trauma recovering,
life skills programs. To include with the last trimester is
career preparation. And then we have many types of therapy.
We have equin therapy, twenty four horses, ten certified equine therapists.
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That's a wonderful tool with our veterans and their families
and their children. So we're just grateful that this holistic
integration really a national prototype. We're a nine month residential
program for these at risk veterans. I say we're a
we're a CROC pot and a microwave society, and you
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understand the problems with RECID. Many of our veterans have
aud SUD problems, and so we're prepared to deal with
those and many other issues that they face. And it's
such joy. It's a privilege to watch them grow, progress,
move away, gain the right reflexes. Turnier said, you fall
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the way you lean, and so we teach these veterans
out here to become healthy, to lean in the right direction,
so that if they do fall for whatever reason, they
now have the reflexes and the means to pick themselves
back up and move on out and be productive members
of society.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well, it's gaining a lot of attention and support, Bob.
If people watching right now want to learn more about
the National Center for Healthy Veterans maybe support you and
your work, where can they go?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Sure, just go to Healthy Veterans dot org, Healthy Veterans
dot org, and we also have Facebook. You can find
us through there and others. And two requests. One, yes,
we need resources. We appreciate that my grandmother used to say,
many hands make light work. And secondly, we need referrals.
The people in your listening audience are in the woodwork
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of America. They recognize there's veterans around the corner, maybe
under the bridge. They recognize somebody stuck in their parents'
basement playing video games. They recognize maybe somebody's had three
jobs in the last year and they can't keep it
because they can't adapt or transition. We deal with these
type veterans and also the typical post traumatic stress disorder,
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traumatic brain injury, moral injury, adverse childhood experiences precipitated by
military service. All of those. We ask that you send
those referrals to us and will help them or will
help refer them to someone else that can help them.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's the National Center for Healthy Veterans, and the website
again is Healthy Veterans dot org. That's correct, healthy Veterans
dot org. Bob D's General Bobde's thank you so much
for joining me.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Thank you, Doctor Clinton, and a privilege.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Coming up next, Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is back with it.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
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Speaker 1 (37:23):
Join us now is United States Marine Corps. Veteran Box
News contributor and evangelist Tim Lee while serving in the
United States Marine Corps South Vietnam, gave both of his
legs to America. Instead of quitting or becoming bitter, God
used this major event in Tim's life to propel them
into a ministry that no one could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
At that time.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Tim, Welcome, Happy Memorial Day. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Thank you, doctor Tim. But it is always an honor
to be with you. Tim.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thank you for your service to our country. And when
I think of you, I just think of someone who
genuinely loves America. You love God, you love America, and
you're grateful to God for his goodness and grace, and
you liked him, and you remind me every time we
have a conversation that freedom isn't free. There's a special
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place in your heart for those, by the way, who
have served, those who have who actually serve, and those
who gave all.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yes, and especially on this Memorial Day weekend that we're
remembering those that gave it all and Veteran's Day. Of
course we will honor those who are serving and those
who have served that are still alive, but today we're
remembered those who literally gave it all. And I've said
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thousands of times over the years of America's worth living for,
America's worth fighting for, and if needs be, America is
worth dying for. And so this is a great nation.
We got falls, we got problems, we've got sin, but
it's still the greatest nation on the face of the earth.
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I don't know of another country where I want to
go and live. I love America, and so I'm going
to keep on fighting till my dying breath for this
great land.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
On Monday, the President is expected to go to Arlington
National Cemetery, going to place a wreath at the tomb
of the Unknown Soldier. You know this, and America knows this.
The President places a huge premium on an emphasis on
a strong and well supported military, and the ward will
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be watching him as he goes to do that very thing.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There is a new sheriff in town, a little different
than what we've seen in the past couple of years.
And I think people they love the honor that's coming
to America and to those who serve and their families.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yes, I have been several times through the tomb of
the Unknown Soldier. I've had to princely wreathed there twice.
And it's quite an experience. I am so grateful that
God has given America what I call a reprieve. We've
been given another opportunity, knowing as a preacher of the
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Word of God, that we deserve the judgment of God.
America deserves God's judgment. God's full of judgment. But He's
given us mercy, and not that we deserved it, but
He's got a plan and the design. And so here
we are with the greatest president in my lifetime, President
Donald J. Trump. And I've told someone yesterday that maybe
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there's three to four five percent of what he says
or does that I might disagree with, But I don't
even agree with myself that much. I agree with him
more than I agree with myself. So I'm thanking God
every day for this new leadership. I tell you, we
were on the verge of I believe, a total collapse,
and our enemies were watching us close to see what
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was going to happen. And now they're dealing with Donald J.
Trump and our commander in chief and new leadership all
the way around. And it is a breath of fresh air,
excuse me, great great relief to know that we've got
this man setting at the Helm.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Tim, you have quite a personal story. Grew up small town, USA, Illinois,
pastor's son, but you jump into the United States Marine Corps.
Maybe teach him a few things. But take us down
that journey that you were on and what God did
in your heart.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yes, I was raising a preacher's home. My dad was
a Southern Baptist pastor for right at sixty years, and
my mom a pastor's wife for almost sixty years, and
a great family. There were seven of us. My dad
one of the hardest working men I've ever known in
my life. My dad served at World War Two in
the South Pacific, and he's my hero and my Mentory's
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gone to heaven now and I miss him all of
the time. But I was raised in a great home.
Not a perfect home, but a great home. And when
I was ten, I gave my heart to Christ and
I loved it. I was so excited and pumped up.
But then when I became a teenager, I got out
of the will of God. And Tim, I tell parents
that one of the main reasons that I got out
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of the will of God is I begin to hang
out with the wrong crowd. And that's why it's important
for parents to find out who their children are hanging
out with and where they're going. What they're doing is
called checking up on them, is called being a parent.
But I was going behind mom and Dad's back and
sneaking around doing things that were wrong and out of
the will of God, and my life messed up. I
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graduated from high school, got kicked out of college, got
fired for my job, and walking down the street my hometown, McLeansboro, Illinois,
I stepped on I went into the recruiters. I saw
a sign and said, the Marines are looking for a
few good men. And I went in and joined the
United States Marine Corps and doctor Tim. I thought when
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I left that recruiter's office that I was a United
States Marine, But I found out in boot camp, you're
a lot of things, but you're not a marine. And
so there that twelve weeks at boot camp, they reinforced
the things that my parents have been teaching me all
of my life. And I tell young people that I
was tired of living a home, tired of being told
what time to get out of bed, and what time
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to go to bed, and how to get my hair cut.
So I joined the United States Marine Corps, and of
course that was not the smartest thing ever did, but
it ended up in South Vietnam on March the eighth,
nineteen seventy one, leading my men on a mind sweep,
and I stepped on a sixty pound mine and blew
me several feet into the air, RiPP both of my
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legs off of my body, and I should have been
killed instantly. It was a big enough mind to destroy
a jeep. We entered a major minefield, and now there's
smoke and chaos and confusion of South Korea Marine serving
room with us stepped on a mine, lost one of
his legs. Our bullowser driver said, it's blade down on
a mine. Some of my men think we're taking on
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small enemy fire. And I was only unconscious for a
couple of moments, and I realized that I've been hit.
I was in extreme pain, and they wouldn't let me
look up, but my head was laying in the lap
of my best friend in Vietnam, legal or Leon. I
flew to Vietnam on the same plane, and he was
a Christian living for God, openly living for God, praying
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and reading his Bible, talking to other marines about the
Lord and I'd get under conviction just being around him.
I knew this is the life and the testimony that
I was supposed to have. But I was running from God.
And that day I prayed with my head in his lap.
He was praying, big old tears front down his black face,
and he was praying for me and asking God to
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help me. But I prayed that day and I begged
God to let me live. And two weeks on a
hospital ship, two weeks on the island of Guama, then
eight long months in the PHILADELPHIAVA Hospital in Pennsylvania, and
the God spared my life and let me live. When
the doctors were through, had three inches remaining on a
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right leg, eleven inches on the left, and no other
part of my body was hurt. God had spared my life.
And here we are talking about it today.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Through the years, you have carried that message from Harris Island,
where you get to speak to recruits coming into the
Marine Corps. You become a legendary speak all over the country,
around the world. At the heart of all of it
is the gospel message.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It's who you are, It's what matters, It's what separates everything.
At the end of the day, it's the freedom we
have in Christ. That's the ultimate freedom, and that's the
foundation I put upon which we stand. That's why religious
liberty and so much more are so important. That's why
it's important for us to stand for America, for our
country absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
And this is the most important thing. As important as
that American flag is important, as my country, is more
important as the gospel of Jesus Christ, what God did
for us and sending his son, Jesus, the only begotten
son of God, to hang on an old, rugged cross
suspended between heaven and earth. And on that cross he
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shed his blood, and on that cross he died. God's
only son died for me and for you and for
the sins of the whole world. But here's the difference
of Christianity, among other things. But the main difference is
of Christianity and every other single religion on the face
of the earth. But Jesus didn't stay dead. Three days
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later he gets up from the grave, bodily, physically, gets
up from the grave, victorious of a sin, of a
death over hell. And today God's son is alive. And
that is the good news. And then the great news
is that he wants to come and live in people's lives,
and people ask me, how does God son come and
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live in my life. You have to come to the
place to confess that you're a sinner, knowing you save
yourself and you're willing to repent of your sins and
turn to Jesus. And the very moment that you, by
faith say yes to Jesus by faith, what are you saying?
Yes to the cross, to the blood that was shed,
to the death that was died, and to an empty tomb,
to a risen savior. The very moment that a person
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says yes, God said in Job one twelve to as
many as received him to them, gave me the pie
to become the sons of God. And God saves you,
and he makes you his child and you get to
spend all that he turned with him in this awesome,
awesome place called Heaven.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
That's simply by praying to God and asking him and
to come into your life, tim.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
You become a warrior for God. I'm encouraged.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'm seeing new research coming out about younger men in
particularly the millennials and gen Z coming to Christ, I
mean flooding to Christ. There's something stirring in our country.
Are you excited about it.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I am p just been reading a lot about this.
So that's two or three days. And we were had
a Preachers of meeting with several pastors here the other
day in Fort Worth, and we were talking about this
very thing. Whereas like two or three years ago, the
decline was so obvious and look like young people were
turning away from God. And now all of a sudden,
there's something that is going on. And our college campuses
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are going on with our young people and especially with
our young men. And I'm grateful for the young ladies
that come to Christ, but I know that we need
to raise up some great men in this country with
courage and backbone and guts to stand for God and
to live for Jesus and to stand for what's right
in this country. And so men alive. I want to
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encourage this. I want to I want to be a
part of it. I want to help these young young
men that want to turn to Jesus that we can
disciple them and that we can see some great preachers
call out among them and the a ban or some
pastors and missionaries and leaders and young people are just
on fire for God. And so yes, I am super
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duper pumped about what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Some people are saying recently to me, America's back. I
think America's coming back.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Something's going on. Tim, Thank you for your leadership. A
blessed Memorial Day, and go easy on the hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Will you?
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yes, sir, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
You, Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 8 (49:26):
For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim
Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a
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Speaker 2 (49:41):
Be close.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I again want to give a strong shout out to
all those who gave all and those who serve and
their families.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We salute you. What can you do this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Weekend to honor a veteran out of your wigh and
say thank you someone for their service. Proudly fly the
American flag, maybe put flowers or a flag at a
grave at three pm on moil day? Actually a pause
for a moment of silence, hey, and don't forget to
visit a cemetery or battlefield and always remember that freedom
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isn't free. Share a pick on social media. Maybe you
have a loved one or a fallen soldier or airman.
And probably the most appropriate way we could end this
broadcast today is by the playing of taps.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Thanks for watching,
Welcome into Real America's voice news. This is Sunday the
Road Forward. Change continues coming at US at warp speed
out of Washington from the Trump administration. And hey, it's
a Memorial Day weekend. It's sacred time to commemorate all
the men and women who have died in military service
for the United States of America. All this and more
as we kick off summer. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll
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be your host our special guest joining us this week.
He's dynamic pastor, movie producer, author's civil rights activist, and
television personality. President of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.
Sam Rodriguez is back. He's a practicing licensed psychologist, author,
former legislator, and Navy veteran. Consults with mental health and
public policy with national organizations, and speaks extensively throughout the
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United States.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Doctor Tim Murphy is with us.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He's evangelist and Marine Corps Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is
back with us and he's retired Major General of the
United States Army.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Bob Dees thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
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Speaker 4 (01:08):
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Swot Well.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Change continues coming at US at warp speed out of
Washington from the Trump administration. This week, the Senate unanimously
approved a twenty five thousand dollars tax break for tip
workers that one Big Beautiful Bill is advancing. And President
Trump and Secretary Hexeth announced the Golden Dome missile defense
system for the United States. And this weekend, we're celebrating
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Memorial Day as we kick off summer. Memorial Day weekend
is traditionally seen as the start of summer grilling and chilin,
hitting the lake, barbecue in big race weekend, the n
five hundred, the Coca Cola six hundred. Maybe you or
your family have plans for the weekend, Hey listen, don't
skip out on church, and be sure to spend some
time reflecting on those who gave their all that full
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measure of devotion. I'm talking about those fallen heroes who
served our country and paid the ultimate price. They laid
down their lives so that we could live in worship
with freedom in the greatest country in the world, the
United States of America. Memorial Day was formerly known as
Decoration Day. It's a sacred day again to honor the
men and women who have died in military service for
our country and to honor their families. Several national traditions
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on Memorial Day include flying a flag at half staff
from dawn until noon, placing flags on graves and national cemeteries,
and a national Moment of Remembrance at.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Three PM on Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I remember as a boy Dubois, Pennsylvania, Morningside Cemetery Memorial
Day weekend, my dad would take us for a drive
through a sea of American flags, basically representing those who
had served our great country. Timmy said, some game, and
you need to know that freedom isn't free. Not far
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too from my childhood home. As another memorial called Brad's Hill,
It's a memorial to one of America's finest killed in Iraq.
My son Zach and I, when we go up to Pennsylvania,
we try to go buy there. It's a place where
I remind him if freedom isn't free, who are those
gold Star families? They're heroes who died in combat from
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World War Two till now and those families who have
lost that loved one in military service. President is expected
to go to Arlington National Cemetery on Monday morning and
place a reef on the tomb of the unknown soldier
president and his administration.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They're putting a.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Big emphasis, a strong emphasis on a well supported military,
and this is also National Military Appreciation Month. Make sure
you do something in person on social media this weekend
to honor and do your part. Romans thirteen seven says
rendered therefore unto all honor, to whom honor is due.
Strapping as we jump head first into our discussion today.
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on Sunday the Road Ford, I'm gonna pray.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We're going to get started. God be with us.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Thank you for those who serve and served our great country.
For those who gave the full measure of devotion. God,
we honor them. Thank You for the freedoms we have
in this country. I pray a special blessing over this
entire weekend. I pray a blessing over this particular program, Use.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It for your glory. I pray all this in the
strong name of Jesus. Let's get started.
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New Season Church in Sacramento, California. Sam, welcome back, Thank
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Speaker 3 (06:46):
You for having me. Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Been a wild couple of weeks, a couple of months, really.
I think since January twentieth, I mean the President has
hit the ground running. He's running at warp speed. I
mean absolutely wild. Everything he's knocking out, getting done, He's
sending a message, and I don't think he's going to
slow down, do you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Everything from the economy to foreign policy, his recent trip
to the Middle East, confronting South African racism apart TID
two point zero, imagine that, and doing it all with swag,
doing it all with great deliberation, with a stronger commit
into affirming our Jeneo Christian value system as to saw
through the National Day of Prayer and so forth. It's
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an amazing time.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Indeed.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh, by the way, Tim, I don't think it's a
coincidence that ever since this administration came in, we're looking
at some inroads now.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
As reported by David.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Kinneman and Barna a quote unquote, Christianity is making a
comeback in America. It can't be coincidental, my friend Sam.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Also, everybody knows there's a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And it's not just energy in Washington, there's energy across
the country. People are saying, America's back, America's coming back.
It's like the train has left this you better get
on the bus. And you know, it seems like everything
that he was getting pushed back on from tariffs everything else,
they're saying, Ah, he's gonna blow it all up. Sam,
it looks like these dominoes are falling in place.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Faith is back, family is back, common sense is back, Logic,
reason our back. Science is back.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Human anatomy, biology, and physiology they are back. And the
dominoes are every single time you hear a predictive model
and we talked about the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
These tariffs will result.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
In super hyper inflation. Hey, tied, the inflation report just
came in. It's going down at pass.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We haven't seen in four years.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Four years.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So every single doom and gloom report is actually countered
by what a truthful outcome demonstrating that something is happening
in America.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
America is back.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I haven't seen this sort of America is back, sort
of model since Ronald Reagan was president. America is back.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Memorial Day weekend, Sam, people reflect on those who gave
all the full measure of devotion. And there's something about
when you press in and you really take a look
at it, and you start thinking about how freedom isn't free,
and there's honor that begins to define everything that you
do throughout the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
When I think of President Trump and where he's at,
We'll watch him go to Arlington Cemetery Monday morning for
a Memorial Day placing a reef at the tomb of
the Unknown Soldier and more people will basically stand at attention.
They'll get that moment of honor, of recognition, that solemn moment.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
In the midst of it, there seems to be something
inside the president right now that the American people are
buying into, and that is it's different, He's different. This
is not Trump one point oh, this is Trump two
point zero. Maybe it was that Brushwood death and Butler
Pennsylvania is something. But there's something very different and passionate
about him right now.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So he has a mandate, and the mandate in his wording,
God has provided time and space. God protected him for
such a time as this to restore America because America
is unbelievably important on the face of his planet. So
goes America, so goes the world.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
It is our Jeneo.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Christian value system that makes us exceptional, the fact that
we believe that our rights come from God and not
from each other or from government. They come from God.
And Donald Trump is demonstrating that when we affirm that
Jeneo Christian value system, it's a worldview, and it is
the worldview that will serve as a deterrent to communism
and Marxism and socialism and Wokism and cancel culture. That
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worldview is prevailing again because of his incredible leadership.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yes, hats, stars.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And stripes, our national anthem, they once again begin to
resonate and we get goose pimples and chills once again.
Because of Donald Trump's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Leadership, Sam, there was a real beat down on people
of faith. I mean there really was. You couldn't mention
God much on social media without getting hammered. But it's
like God is making this comeback. You reference that across
the America is like revival going on the barn and
research showing that young men, in particular millennials gen Z
are coming back to court. I mean they're coming to
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Christ and Drove Seriously, there's an upswing. It's a surge. Sam,
I'm just thinking about culture. I mean, it's it's it's
wild what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, let me give you four words. Four words.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Let me just speak to your audience and even to
those that may be watching this that are.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Not part of our.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Christian worldview, our Christian faith.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
For everyone out there that is suffering from acid reflux
because quote American idol is becoming two Christians, For everyone
who is suffering heartburn, because NFL football players continue to
give glory to Jesus at the end of the football game.
For everyone out there with great anks and consternation because
God and Jesus are being elevated into public sphere like
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ever before.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
There are four words. Get used to it.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And I say that respectfully because it's out of the bag.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
My friend.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It is.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There is a commitment now to never again sacrificing truth
on the al troup of expediency. We will never be silent,
we will never hide our faith ever again, and intimidation
will not work.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
This is the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So get used to it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know, the president could have turned away, Sam, elected,
went back in office. He doesn't have to quote place
faith as a centerpiece of his administration. But he's the
one openly saying God is back. We want God in
this place seriously. And then with the Faith Office going
into the West wing, Sam, you're seeing the Religious Liberty Commission,
this anti Christian biased task force being established.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It is in full swing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It is in full swaying.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And some of our mutual friends were recently appointed to
that and we're so excited for that opportunity. But yes, indeed,
so it's not rhetorical to You're right, Donald Trump could
have said I garnished what eighty six eighty eight percent
of the evangelical vote, and I'm not ready for re
election again, so I'm done.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But rather he's doubling down an affirming faith as the
centerpiece of everything we do as Americans. Dove debt, someone
who was driven by principle and not by political expediency.
So we're gonna see religious liberty protected, not just for
three years, but hopefully you'll be codified in such a
way that it will be protected from my children and
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my children's children for generations to come.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Sam want to close this way where we started closing
thoughts on America Memorial Day weekend, Memorial Day and honoring.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Our falling, our war debt.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, Jim, I am compelled to reconcile the Barner report
of America's making a combat. Christianity in America's making a comeback,
especially with millennial and generations. E Man, with the men
and the women who are buried in Arlington and across America.
We must honor Proverbs twenty two, verse four. True humility
and fear of the Lord lead to honor, richest and
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long life. Honor honors everything. My uncle died in Korea.
My cousin died in Iraq. We are here, you and
I are here having this conversation because our forefathers paid
the ultimate price. So let us remember the price that
has been paid, which makes let's not be negligent with
what God has placed upon us, this blessing called America,
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and we must be vigilant for such a time as this.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
We will always remember and give honor to whom honor
is due. Sam Rodrigueze, I'd like to have you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Thank you for joining me, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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Representatives representing Pennsylvania's eighteenth Congressional district. He has written several
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best selling books, including his latest, The Christ Cure Tim,
Biblical Ways to Heal from Trauma, Tragedy, and PTSD. Doctor Murphy,
welcome back, Thank you for joining us. Happy Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yes, it's a good time remember and stay for all
of us, for all those who gave all.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Tim, you know, everybody typically thinks of Memorial Day of
getting out, grilling and chilling. It's the what Indy five hundred,
Coca Cola six hundred, It's big race weekend. But again,
it's so much more than that. This is where we
honor our war dead and Tim, you spent a lot
of time in Washington, d C. When I think of
DC and I think of Memorial Day, I think of
Arlington Cemetery, I think of the President going there and
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putting a reef down at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier,
and so much more. I took my son Zach up there,
you know, Zach, and we walked through a very solemn
time for the two of us when he began to
realize the cost of freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Freedom isn't free, absolutely, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
And I also served in the Navy as a psychologist,
and I would when I was in Congress, I joined
and I would travel over to Bethesda Hospital which became
Walter Reed Hospital and work on a traumatic brain injury unit.
And realized that these are people who gave and many
of them just wounded beyond repair, sadly, and some being
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repaired who gave a great deal too, and there's many
who didn't make it. And that is what this day
is about. It's not about celebration, although there's many a
parade out there for this time, but it's really a
way of a pleasant remembrance of a sad event. And
that is when we recognize that about one percent of
the population serves in the military, but of that we
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have some who have given their whole life, millions of them.
And to think of the joy of having known that
there are people who have given their life, oftentimes for
people don't never make but given their life to protect
us all. It's a sense of awe and inspiration as
well as some sadness that they're gone.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Jim Honor dignity. In my mind, they go with our military.
That's the way it should be. I know, for the
last couple of years it's been a little bit of
a downer and people took a lot of shots at
what was happening in the military.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But there's a restoration.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Got a new sheriff in town, somebody who I think
really uplifts and cares about the military and their family.
Tim it makes all the difference in the world.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Makes a huge difference. I mean, you look at even
the numbers of people who are in recruiting that there's
more who are wanting to join all the branch of
service because they recognize now that they have a leader
in charge who's going to look after them, not send
them into an unnecessary war, not leave them unprotected, not
repeat an event like Benghazi or the box withdrawal of
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in Afghanistan which people were killed unnecessarily. So people want
to know if they're going to risk their life, something
that's going to become of it. You had mentioned Arlington
Cemetery before. I too have been there, and I to
have even participated in one of the laying in the reefs.
It's hard to do that without shedding a tear. And
when people in the service know that there's leaders who
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are looking out for them, who are really going to
lead and try and avoid war. But if they are
going to be involved in a war, make sure we're
in it to win it and not just to be
passive participants. Makes a massive difference in people's courage because
then you know someone's got your back, they got your right,
you got the left, they got your front, and so
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there's a greater strength that accelerates person's bravery.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Jim.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
President Trump often makes a big deal out of gold
Star fan. I know you have served the great state
of Pennsylvania many many times in Congress and more. Tim,
I grew up in Central Pennsylvania. A lot of the
people I grew up with served in the military. I
remember March seventeenth, nineteen seventy eight, raised on my right
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hand there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and going on to Fort Sill, Oklahoma.
But Tim, there's a place up in Central PA close
to my home where I grew up as a boy,
little place called Brad's Hill, and it's the really a
remembrance place of a young boy up there who gave all.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
In Iraq.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And every time I take my son Zach up there.
It's kind of like my dad walking me through dou
Boys Morningside Cemetery on Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Was the sea of flags in there place by pretty
much every gravestone that was up there. Tim It was
that again constant mind that freedom isn't free. And when
you think of gold Star families, it really comes home.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
It does. And these are parents who also gave all that.
The families who raised a son or a daughter with
great expectations of how they would live their life, and
they would live to see their children and grandchildren grow up.
When there's a loss of life in combat and military,
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well what a bittersweet thing that is for families. I've
been to several funerals myself of people who died in
Iraq and Afghanistan or desert storm, and I share your
memories the visions of going to a cemetery, and really
that is something I hope everybody does as part of
Memorial Day. What a great tradition that would be for
any family. Okay, have your barbecue, have your family together
in the afternoon, but go there in the morning. And
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there were the day before put some flags up on
any grave that you see that's a veteran that isn't decorated,
and take a moment to pray there. It's a powerful
thing to remind us that even though one percent serve,
their families serve, and all of us are there that
have a duty and honor to share that honor that
obligation by honoring them.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
When I think of military too, and I think of
those who've served, who've been in combat and more, there's
an old expression when war comes home, and people use
that as a way to begin talking about mental health
related issues. Here we are in May, which is Mental
Health Awareness Month, and you have a real passion for
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helping people understand the challenges that military veterans go through
and their families. You want to bring that to the forefront.
Talk a little bit about that passion of yours and
where we're at, what we can all be thinking about
and praying about.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Thanks Well. I specialize now in working with trauma and
depression anxiety for military and first responders. A lot of
those first responders of veterans themselves too. When one is
in the military, you feel that you can handle lot
because you have the camaraderie of your brothers and sisters
and arms, where they're with you. That's really important to
have it. Once one comes home, however, you suddenly find
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where is everybody now? And even friends or neighbors they
don't quite understand. They may say some kind words, but
they don't quite understand that loss can begin to make
some things worse. When then one is reflecting on particularly
traumatic things they have seen in war, and these can
be combat situations, they can be horrific accidents that someone
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sees their witness to it. They may have lost a
dear friend, they may have seen some disaster take place.
Those traumatic thoughts continue to wear on us. It's like
the videotape replay that won't stop. And each time that happens,
our brain, our body, our heart, our spirituality will react
to that and grind away at us, build up our stress,
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accelerate our stress. Hormones bring on more depression and anxiety. Well,
when a person has a hard time shaking that and
they don't have a spiritual length, they can sometimes say
I've got to get out of this mental pain or
I've got to get to this physical pain, and they
start to think the only way out is death. It's
a that is a temporary solution, or excuse me, it's
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a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And that's what
you want veterans to know. You've seen the numbers. It ranges, well,
the VA just changed the way they read data, so
it's like seventeen a day, but we really know the
number of veterans who die each day could be as
high as thirty or forty, particularly high among Vietnam veterans.
As they're retired there now they have time with their thoughts.
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Things start to ache on them. And we know that
more have died by suicide, after Desert Storm, after Iraqi Freedom,
after the Afghan War, more have died by suicide than
by combat. It's almost twice as many from Vietnam have
died from suicide. This is why at a moment, at
a time like this Memorial Day. Yeah, Veteran's day is good,
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and you thank everybody for their service, but a time
like this let them know that any of their service
was valuable. Others may have died, but say, we don't
want you to die now. Don't be a casualty of
war now, And so honoring people remembering them sometimes just
saying them at a time of Memorial Day, Hey, do
you have any friends that you're thinking of you're remembering
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on a day like this. That's a really cool and
heartfelt way to connect with the veteran. Now they may say, now,
I don't want to talk about it. That's cool, but
they may say, yeah, thanks for remembering. And to even say,
is there anybody I can pray for today? Any gold
Star family that you know of, anybody who've lost, can
we share a prayer? I'm telling you that would lift
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a burden off of many a veteran's shoulders to know
that they don't have to carry on this fight alone.
And the memories of those who have been lost.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
What I'd like to have you, Tim, thank you so
much for joining's Doctor Tim Murphy. If people want to
learn more about you and your work, where can they go?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Tim?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I have a website. It's doctor Tim Murphy dot com.
Dr Tim Murphy dot com. And he mentioned my book
Before the Christ Cured, Ten Biblical Ways to Heal from Trauma,
Tragedy and PTSD. I hope you reading it really as
a handbook for the broken and those who love them.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Coming up next he's retired Major General of the United
States Army Bob D's.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
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Speaker 1 (27:43):
Joyce now is retired Major General Bob D's. He's a
decorated military leader with over three decades of service. Now
advocates for leadership development and mental health through his work
as an author and speaker. He currently serves as the
CEO of the National Center for Healthy Veterans. General D's
what I'd like to have you happy Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Well, thank you, Doctor Clinton. Great to be with you,
and I appreciate our long term relationship and trying to
help others together.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Bob, I was talking to you before we got on
the air just about your ongoing service to veterans, and
you know, I've had numerous conversations about Veterans Day and
Memorial Day and more. But Bob, stepping back and as
you reflect on just going into the weekend and the
honor you know by the way, something's changing in America.
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I mean, the spirit of America is back, and the
honor that's coming back to our military, this strong national
defense and so much more. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
But Bob, just some reflections out of your heart as
we go into a Memorial Day.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, you bet well. For those that have observed the
selfless service of our fighting men and women all across
the world, Memorial Day is perhaps a day of celebration,
but more importantly, it's also a sober day, a day
of remembrance, a day of remembering the great sacrifice. A
long time ago, when I was a young lieutenant, my
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Rto died at my side, and I recognized that that
mission that I'd received at West Point, of take care
of the troops and accomplish a mission had sort of
been branded on my forehead. And then when I got
out and that happened and I saw the selfless service
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of the blue collar workers, the soldier sayers, theirman marines
in the military, it went from my head to my heart.
And then eventually it went from my heart when I
saw more of that, the suicides, etc. To my gut,
and it became a divine calling to take care of
of our troops in various ways and their families. And
so on this day, I think of those troops that
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have lost their lives certainly the ones I've known personally,
but the thousands and the thousands that have given their
lives on behalf of a grateful nation. I placed many
coins that a soldier's cross after a soldier has lost
his life, and I've folded many flags with widows and
given them to her in most cases, on behalf of
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a grateful nation. So it's a sobering time, and there
are plenty of things we can talk about. But when
I lost the lives, you know, I was over people
who lost their lives in various situations. I always remember
that we are to honor the fall and we are
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to lead the living. So when we honor the falling
on Memorial Day, it's a sober time. It's a sacred
time to honor that sacrifice of life. Christ said no
greater love, and so we see no greater love underneath
each one of those tombstones that have given their lives
for the nation and for their people on their right
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and left, and then lead the living. Although the emphasis
on Memorial Day those that have actually lost their lives,
we must also remember the veterans and the active duty
military and their families. And so we in this nation
need to give strong support and good guidance and counsel
and leadership to those that live and are prepared to
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give their lives in the future on our behalf. When
I think, that's what comes to mind tim at first.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know, when I think of Memorial Day, we'll see
images of Ourlington Cemetery. We'll probably well watch the President
go Leah Reef at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier
on Monday. Bob, I think of it being national, but
it's very local. Not far from where I live is
a little town called Bedford, Virginia. You're very familiar with
it and the D Day memorials there, and they talk
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about the Bedford Boys, how they were just absolutely wiped
out on D Day there on the shores of Normandy,
and I just think about going through that town and
it's just a bedroom community.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
There are a lot of flags, there's a lot of
pride there.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You'll go through town here over the next two weeks
and you're going to see on every corner, you know,
some type of reminder of the history and the love
for America. That's sair, Bob, and I think that's what Memorial.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Day is to me.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's just about the families that probably don't get a
lot of recognition, But who faithfully and out of duty,
who raised that right hand and said, hey, I'm going
to serve my country with every ounce of energy I
have so that we can live free together.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
That's such a good point, and I think it emphasizes
the fact that these are not nameless tombstones or statistics.
These are fathers and brothers and sisters and mothers, spouses,
all sorts of relationships. And when that person is lost,
it's like pulling the roots out a family in many ways,
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and it's so painful, and it's not something that goes away.
You'll never forget the loss of that loved one. And
so you're right, Spiritual worship is to in fact honor
them on places at times like Memorial Day, places like
Arlington Cemetery.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Bob, the National Center for Healthy Veterans. You now lead that,
and you and your wife, and it's amazing what God's
doing in and through share with us a little bit
about the mission and what's been happening.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Well, it's just a privilege, Tim to be leading this organization.
We talked about the effectiveness of the Iron Dome, and
it's an integrated effort well, that's what we do at
the National Center for Healthy Veterans. We're a holistic integration
of proven best practices. Gratefully, we've been able to take
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a three hundred and thirty nine acre of God's creation.
The Japanese would call it on forest bathing. That's therapeutic
in itself. And then we've put together a very intentional
program of dignified work to provide purpose, self esteem, community
living in tiny homes. We soon will have forty four
tiny homes. The last ones are completing construction now, and
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that defeats isolation, one of the primary causes of veteran suicide.
And then we go on. We have faith based trauma recovering,
life skills programs. To include with the last trimester is
career preparation. And then we have many types of therapy.
We have equin therapy, twenty four horses, ten certified equine therapists.
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That's a wonderful tool with our veterans and their families
and their children. So we're just grateful that this holistic
integration really a national prototype. We're a nine month residential
program for these at risk veterans. I say we're a
we're a CROC pot and a microwave society, and you
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understand the problems with RECID. Many of our veterans have
aud SUD problems, and so we're prepared to deal with
those and many other issues that they face. And it's
such joy. It's a privilege to watch them grow, progress,
move away, gain the right reflexes. Turnier said, you fall
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the way you lean, and so we teach these veterans
out here to become healthy, to lean in the right direction,
so that if they do fall for whatever reason, they
now have the reflexes and the means to pick themselves
back up and move on out and be productive members
of society.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well, it's gaining a lot of attention and support, Bob.
If people watching right now want to learn more about
the National Center for Healthy Veterans maybe support you and
your work, where can they go?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Sure, just go to Healthy Veterans dot org, Healthy Veterans
dot org, and we also have Facebook. You can find
us through there and others. And two requests. One, yes,
we need resources. We appreciate that my grandmother used to say,
many hands make light work. And secondly, we need referrals.
The people in your listening audience are in the woodwork
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of America. They recognize there's veterans around the corner, maybe
under the bridge. They recognize somebody stuck in their parents'
basement playing video games. They recognize maybe somebody's had three
jobs in the last year and they can't keep it
because they can't adapt or transition. We deal with these
type veterans and also the typical post traumatic stress disorder,
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traumatic brain injury, moral injury, adverse childhood experiences precipitated by
military service. All of those. We ask that you send
those referrals to us and will help them or will
help refer them to someone else that can help them.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's the National Center for Healthy Veterans, and the website
again is Healthy Veterans dot org. That's correct, healthy Veterans
dot org. Bob D's General Bobde's thank you so much
for joining me.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Thank you, Doctor Clinton, and a privilege.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Coming up next, Vietnam veteran Tim Lee is back with it.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim
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Speaker 1 (37:23):
Join us now is United States Marine Corps. Veteran Box
News contributor and evangelist Tim Lee while serving in the
United States Marine Corps South Vietnam, gave both of his
legs to America. Instead of quitting or becoming bitter, God
used this major event in Tim's life to propel them
into a ministry that no one could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
At that time.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Tim, Welcome, Happy Memorial Day. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Thank you, doctor Tim. But it is always an honor
to be with you. Tim.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thank you for your service to our country. And when
I think of you, I just think of someone who
genuinely loves America. You love God, you love America, and
you're grateful to God for his goodness and grace, and
you liked him, and you remind me every time we
have a conversation that freedom isn't free. There's a special
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place in your heart for those, by the way, who
have served, those who have who actually serve, and those
who gave all.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yes, and especially on this Memorial Day weekend that we're
remembering those that gave it all and Veteran's Day. Of
course we will honor those who are serving and those
who have served that are still alive, but today we're
remembered those who literally gave it all. And I've said
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thousands of times over the years of America's worth living for,
America's worth fighting for, and if needs be, America is
worth dying for. And so this is a great nation.
We got falls, we got problems, we've got sin, but
it's still the greatest nation on the face of the earth.
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I don't know of another country where I want to
go and live. I love America, and so I'm going
to keep on fighting till my dying breath for this
great land.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
On Monday, the President is expected to go to Arlington
National Cemetery, going to place a wreath at the tomb
of the Unknown Soldier. You know this, and America knows this.
The President places a huge premium on an emphasis on
a strong and well supported military, and the ward will
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be watching him as he goes to do that very thing.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There is a new sheriff in town, a little different
than what we've seen in the past couple of years.
And I think people they love the honor that's coming
to America and to those who serve and their families.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yes, I have been several times through the tomb of
the Unknown Soldier. I've had to princely wreathed there twice.
And it's quite an experience. I am so grateful that
God has given America what I call a reprieve. We've
been given another opportunity, knowing as a preacher of the
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Word of God, that we deserve the judgment of God.
America deserves God's judgment. God's full of judgment. But He's
given us mercy, and not that we deserved it, but
He's got a plan and the design. And so here
we are with the greatest president in my lifetime, President
Donald J. Trump. And I've told someone yesterday that maybe
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there's three to four five percent of what he says
or does that I might disagree with, But I don't
even agree with myself that much. I agree with him
more than I agree with myself. So I'm thanking God
every day for this new leadership. I tell you, we
were on the verge of I believe, a total collapse,
and our enemies were watching us close to see what
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was going to happen. And now they're dealing with Donald J.
Trump and our commander in chief and new leadership all
the way around. And it is a breath of fresh air,
excuse me, great great relief to know that we've got
this man setting at the Helm.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Tim, you have quite a personal story. Grew up small town, USA, Illinois,
pastor's son, but you jump into the United States Marine Corps.
Maybe teach him a few things. But take us down
that journey that you were on and what God did
in your heart.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yes, I was raising a preacher's home. My dad was
a Southern Baptist pastor for right at sixty years, and
my mom a pastor's wife for almost sixty years, and
a great family. There were seven of us. My dad
one of the hardest working men I've ever known in
my life. My dad served at World War Two in
the South Pacific, and he's my hero and my Mentory's
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gone to heaven now and I miss him all of
the time. But I was raised in a great home.
Not a perfect home, but a great home. And when
I was ten, I gave my heart to Christ and
I loved it. I was so excited and pumped up.
But then when I became a teenager, I got out
of the will of God. And Tim, I tell parents
that one of the main reasons that I got out
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of the will of God is I begin to hang
out with the wrong crowd. And that's why it's important
for parents to find out who their children are hanging
out with and where they're going. What they're doing is
called checking up on them, is called being a parent.
But I was going behind mom and Dad's back and
sneaking around doing things that were wrong and out of
the will of God, and my life messed up. I
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graduated from high school, got kicked out of college, got
fired for my job, and walking down the street my hometown, McLeansboro, Illinois,
I stepped on I went into the recruiters. I saw
a sign and said, the Marines are looking for a
few good men. And I went in and joined the
United States Marine Corps and doctor Tim. I thought when
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I left that recruiter's office that I was a United
States Marine, But I found out in boot camp, you're
a lot of things, but you're not a marine. And
so there that twelve weeks at boot camp, they reinforced
the things that my parents have been teaching me all
of my life. And I tell young people that I
was tired of living a home, tired of being told
what time to get out of bed, and what time
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to go to bed, and how to get my hair cut.
So I joined the United States Marine Corps, and of
course that was not the smartest thing ever did, but
it ended up in South Vietnam on March the eighth,
nineteen seventy one, leading my men on a mind sweep,
and I stepped on a sixty pound mine and blew
me several feet into the air, RiPP both of my
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legs off of my body, and I should have been
killed instantly. It was a big enough mind to destroy
a jeep. We entered a major minefield, and now there's
smoke and chaos and confusion of South Korea Marine serving
room with us stepped on a mine, lost one of
his legs. Our bullowser driver said, it's blade down on
a mine. Some of my men think we're taking on
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small enemy fire. And I was only unconscious for a
couple of moments, and I realized that I've been hit.
I was in extreme pain, and they wouldn't let me
look up, but my head was laying in the lap
of my best friend in Vietnam, legal or Leon. I
flew to Vietnam on the same plane, and he was
a Christian living for God, openly living for God, praying
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and reading his Bible, talking to other marines about the
Lord and I'd get under conviction just being around him.
I knew this is the life and the testimony that
I was supposed to have. But I was running from God.
And that day I prayed with my head in his lap.
He was praying, big old tears front down his black face,
and he was praying for me and asking God to
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help me. But I prayed that day and I begged
God to let me live. And two weeks on a
hospital ship, two weeks on the island of Guama, then
eight long months in the PHILADELPHIAVA Hospital in Pennsylvania, and
the God spared my life and let me live. When
the doctors were through, had three inches remaining on a
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right leg, eleven inches on the left, and no other
part of my body was hurt. God had spared my life.
And here we are talking about it today.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Through the years, you have carried that message from Harris Island,
where you get to speak to recruits coming into the
Marine Corps. You become a legendary speak all over the country,
around the world. At the heart of all of it
is the gospel message.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
It's who you are, It's what matters, It's what separates everything.
At the end of the day, it's the freedom we
have in Christ. That's the ultimate freedom, and that's the
foundation I put upon which we stand. That's why religious
liberty and so much more are so important. That's why
it's important for us to stand for America, for our
country absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
And this is the most important thing. As important as
that American flag is important, as my country, is more
important as the gospel of Jesus Christ, what God did
for us and sending his son, Jesus, the only begotten
son of God, to hang on an old, rugged cross
suspended between heaven and earth. And on that cross he
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shed his blood, and on that cross he died. God's
only son died for me and for you and for
the sins of the whole world. But here's the difference
of Christianity, among other things. But the main difference is
of Christianity and every other single religion on the face
of the earth. But Jesus didn't stay dead. Three days
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later he gets up from the grave, bodily, physically, gets
up from the grave, victorious of a sin, of a
death over hell. And today God's son is alive. And
that is the good news. And then the great news
is that he wants to come and live in people's lives,
and people ask me, how does God son come and
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live in my life. You have to come to the
place to confess that you're a sinner, knowing you save
yourself and you're willing to repent of your sins and
turn to Jesus. And the very moment that you, by
faith say yes to Jesus by faith, what are you saying?
Yes to the cross, to the blood that was shed,
to the death that was died, and to an empty tomb,
to a risen savior. The very moment that a person
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says yes, God said in Job one twelve to as
many as received him to them, gave me the pie
to become the sons of God. And God saves you,
and he makes you his child and you get to
spend all that he turned with him in this awesome,
awesome place called Heaven.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
That's simply by praying to God and asking him and
to come into your life, tim.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
You become a warrior for God. I'm encouraged.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'm seeing new research coming out about younger men in
particularly the millennials and gen Z coming to Christ, I
mean flooding to Christ. There's something stirring in our country.
Are you excited about it.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I am p just been reading a lot about this.
So that's two or three days. And we were had
a Preachers of meeting with several pastors here the other
day in Fort Worth, and we were talking about this
very thing. Whereas like two or three years ago, the
decline was so obvious and look like young people were
turning away from God. And now all of a sudden,
there's something that is going on. And our college campuses
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are going on with our young people and especially with
our young men. And I'm grateful for the young ladies
that come to Christ, but I know that we need
to raise up some great men in this country with
courage and backbone and guts to stand for God and
to live for Jesus and to stand for what's right
in this country. And so men alive. I want to
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encourage this. I want to I want to be a
part of it. I want to help these young young
men that want to turn to Jesus that we can
disciple them and that we can see some great preachers
call out among them and the a ban or some
pastors and missionaries and leaders and young people are just
on fire for God. And so yes, I am super
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duper pumped about what's going on right now.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Some people are saying recently to me, America's back. I
think America's coming back.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Something's going on. Tim, Thank you for your leadership. A
blessed Memorial Day, and go easy on the hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Will you?
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yes, sir, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
You, Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 8 (49:26):
For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim
Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a
part of your life.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Be close.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I again want to give a strong shout out to
all those who gave all and those who serve and
their families.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
We salute you. What can you do this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Weekend to honor a veteran out of your wigh and
say thank you someone for their service. Proudly fly the
American flag, maybe put flowers or a flag at a
grave at three pm on moil day? Actually a pause
for a moment of silence, hey, and don't forget to
visit a cemetery or battlefield and always remember that freedom
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isn't free. Share a pick on social media. Maybe you
have a loved one or a fallen soldier or airman.
And probably the most appropriate way we could end this
broadcast today is by the playing of taps.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
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