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July 4, 2025 48 mins

 THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
That all.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
The Congress will now vote un Viru Junior's resolution on independence.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you for coming, Caesar, God bless.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
You, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
The Secretary will call the roll, and i'd remind you
gentlemen that a single name vote.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Will repeat the motion. Mister Thompson, you hamsher Ansor says yeah.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Your ham Tree says yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
A true, says that's what you say.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, that's a true.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
Says Yeay.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Roade Hed yeay.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Road the height ends, he says yay. Connecticnett says yet,
says yay.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
New York. The Secretary of New York State, New York
at stage.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
New Jersey, New Jersey says yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:16):
New Jersey says yay.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Pennsylvania, mister Secretary, Pennsylvania is not ready. Please come back
to us later.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Pennsylvania passes continues just a month.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Delaware, Delaware, my majority votes.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
I says yay.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Delaware says yay.

Speaker 10 (01:38):
Maryland, Maryland says yay.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Maryland says yay. Virginia Virginia says yay. Virginia says ya.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
North Carolina, North Carolina used to South Carolina. South Carolina. Well,
mister Adams.

Speaker 11 (01:54):
Well, mister Budlich.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Mister Adams, you must believe that I will do what
I promised to do.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
What is it you want routledge?

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Remove the offending passage from your declaration.

Speaker 11 (02:19):
If we did that, we would be guilty of what
we ourselves rebelling against.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Nevertheless, remove it, or South Carolina will bury now and
forever your dream of independence.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Jean, I beg you consider what you're doing. Mark me, Franklin.

Speaker 11 (02:48):
If we give in on this issue, posterity will never
forgive us.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's probably true, but we won't hear a thing will
be long gone. Besides oble posterity thing we were demi gods. We'remen,
no more or less trying to get a nation started
against greater odds than a more generous god would have allowed.
First thing's first job, independence American. If we don't secure that,

(03:17):
what difference will the rest me?

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Jefferson say something? What else is there to do? Well, man,
you're the one that wrote it. I wrote all of it,
mister Adams. Yeah, there is Rudland.

Speaker 11 (04:03):
You have your slavery little good may it do you?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now?

Speaker 9 (04:05):
Fall?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Damn you.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
As president. The fair colony of South Carolina says YEA.

Speaker 10 (04:15):
South Carolina says ya North Carolina says ye.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
North Carolina says ya.

Speaker 12 (04:22):
Georgia.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Georgia says ya.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Georgia says YEA.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Pennsylvania second call.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mister President Pennsylvania regrets all of the inconvenience that such
distinguished men as Adams, Franklin and Jefferson were put to.
Just now they might have got their document in tech
for all the difference it will make, Mister President Pennsylvania says.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Just a moment I asked the delegation be pulled, Doctor Franklin.
Don't be absurd a, mister President. It's a proper request. Yes,
it is follow delegation, mister.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
Thompson and doctor Benjamin Franklin.

Speaker 10 (05:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And mister John Dickinson, Nay, mister James Wilson.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Dodge Wilson, there it is, mister Wilson.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's all up to you.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
The whole question of American independence rests squarely on your shoulders.
An entirely new nation ready to be born or to
die at birth, all on your say. So which will
it be, mister Wilson. Every map maker in the world
is waiting for your decision.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Come, James, nothing has changed.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, we mustn't let doctor Franklin create one of his confusions.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
The question is clear.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Most questions are clear, and when someone else has to decide,
it would.

Speaker 11 (05:55):
Be a pity for a man who's handed down hundreds
of wise decisions from the bench to be remembered only
for the one unwise decision he made in Congress.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
James, you're keeping everybody waiting.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
The secretary has called for your vote.

Speaker 10 (06:13):
Please don't push me, John, I know what you want
me to do, But mister Adams is correct about one thing.
I'm the one who'll be remembered for it.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
What do you mean.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
I'm different from you, John, I'm different from most of
the men here. I don't want to be remembered. I
just don't want the responsibility.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yes, well, whether you want it or not, James, there's
no way of avoiding.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
It, not necessarily, John.

Speaker 10 (07:00):
If I go with them, I'll just be one among dozens.
No one will ever remember the name of James Wilson.
But if I vote with you, I'll be the man
who prevented American independence. I'm sorry, John, I just didn't

(07:25):
bargain for that.

Speaker 13 (07:28):
And is that how new nations are formed by a
nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Revolutions committed this world like bastard children. Mister Dickinson, half
improvised and half compromised. Our side has provided the compromise.
Now Judge Wilson is supplying the rest.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
James, I'm sorry, John. My vote is yea.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Mister Secretary Pennsylvania says yea.

Speaker 10 (08:09):
The count.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Being twelve to none with.

Speaker 10 (08:15):
One abstention, the Resolution on Independence.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Is adopted.

Speaker 11 (08:24):
It's done.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's done. Mister Thompson's the declaration ready to be signed?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
It is then, I suggest we do so.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
And the Chair further proposes for our mutual security and protection.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
But no man be allowed to sit in this Congress
without attaching his name to it.

Speaker 13 (08:56):
I'm sorry, mister President, I cannot in good conscience.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Sign such a document.

Speaker 13 (09:06):
I will never stop hoping for our eventual reconciliation with England.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
But because.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
In my own way.

Speaker 13 (09:18):
I regard America no less than does mister Adams, I
will join the army and fight in her defense, even
though I believe that fight to be hopeless.

Speaker 11 (09:37):
Goodbye, gentlemen, Gentlemen of the Congress, I say ye.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
John Dickinson.

Speaker 14 (09:56):
From seventeen seventy six, a dramatic recreation of the of
the event itself. Patrick k O'Donnell is with me. It
is the two hundred and forty ninth commemoration of the
birth of this nation on four July seventeen seventy six.
Patrick k O'Donnell Dickinson there volunteered went to the army.

(10:18):
How tough, brother, was this fight that they were about
to get engaged in? The storm clouds were there in
Staten Island and New York Harbor, and they had basically
a list of the signers of the declaration they were
going to round up. How tough was this fight to
get sir?

Speaker 15 (10:41):
One of my favorite accounts is from a rifleman named
McCurtain who's in an outhouse as all of a sudden
he looks up and he says, all of London seemed
to float. The mass of the Royal Navy suddenly shows
up in New York har were hundreds of ships, and

(11:03):
you know it's just this aspiring site where they're there
to destroy the early United States, and you know this
is where they have the fight of their lives on
their hand. You know, right before the landing at Long Island,
there's a portentous, ominous sort of beginning to you know,

(11:27):
there's lightning everywhere. Literally it hits one of the one
of the Americans, and it literally fries his sword.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
And melts coins, and.

Speaker 15 (11:39):
You know, the Royal Navy then begins landing at Gravesend
Bay on August twenty second, seventeen seventy six. You know,
the waters are emerald green and blue. But there's a
massive invasion coming and they literally have in some cases
landing craft like barges that the front door opens and

(12:03):
allows and to come out as well as men. And
this is the beginning of a massive invasion.

Speaker 14 (12:14):
No, it's absolutely incredibly they sent an expeditionary force. I
also tell people you saw that in that dramatic recreation.
By the way, that's from seventeen seventy six. It is
a musical, but it's a quite stunning kind of dramatic
presentation of the drafting of the Declaration of Independence and
its promulgation. It will be on Turner Classic Movies TCM

(12:35):
tonight at ten thirty eastern daylight time.

Speaker 16 (12:37):
If you have not seen it.

Speaker 14 (12:39):
Or particularly you haven't seen it with the kids, I
strongly recommend it it's a it's a quite brilliant presentation
of what happened in a musical format, and I've had
the opportunity to see it live on Broadway a couple
of times, and also just obviously a big fan of
the film. So make sure you see it tonight. We
always take clips of that on Independence Day. And of
course if you haven't watched the the mini series or

(13:03):
the series John Adams, I think that's now fifteen years
old or such.

Speaker 16 (13:08):
Is absolutely stunning about.

Speaker 14 (13:10):
The Revolutionary generation and it takes the life of really
John Adams and Jefferson all the way through and it's amazing,
just absolute classic. We're gonna have some we have out
music here. We always do the uh we always do
our Revolutionary War music during the during our Fourth of

(13:31):
July special. Very pleased to do this. We love the
we in fact, we'll put this up online Grace if
you push it out, get the music. You can get
John Adams. Watch that. You can see seventeen seventy six
tonight free on Turning Class of Music and get that
on your cable. Tons of great content out there about

(13:52):
the revolution and about the Revolutionary War. I think Ken Burns,
who I realized that some people's not their cup of tea.
Although even as a Southerner, I think the Civil War
is an objective work of art. His documentary series, and
he's coming out a new one on the American Revolution.
I think they're going to tease it over the weekend,
and I think it comes out in the fall. Short

(14:14):
commercial break Our finest combat historian, who wrote two books
on combat of the American Revolution, Patrick Cadon, joins a
short commercial break back in the war Room on the
fourth of July.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Hazza Bevere, American. Some future day shall corral on ustarmasters
of the honey our fleets shall speak in thunder to England, France,
and Spain. Nations over the ocean spread shall tremble and

(14:49):
over by the Prince who rules by Freedom's lost, being
not the merrick.

Speaker 15 (14:59):
We are headed as a nation.

Speaker 17 (15:01):
We know where we've been, well, we do know where
we've been, and that can I think, guide us, or
at least give us some sense of what's ahead.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
History is not a GPS.

Speaker 17 (15:12):
You can't just type in coordinates and take a turn
here and there and you know where you're going to be.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
But you do have a sense.

Speaker 17 (15:18):
I think that the country has a deficit of trust,
a rising distrust in democracy. The question is what do
they think of when they say democracy. What I think
of is the rule of law, the constitution, and that
you can't be for the system, You can't have faith

(15:41):
in the system only when you prevail. And what I
fear is that there is too many of us who
are supporters of President Trump are inclined to defer to
one man, one party interest at to the exclusion of

(16:03):
using something that was so vital to the American Revolution
and which informed the document that we're commemorating tomorrow, the
signing of the document, which is that reason is supposed
to at least have a fighting chance with passion in
the public arena. And so what we're facing is a
test of citizenship. Are we willing to call balls and

(16:27):
strikes as we see them or are we going to
only call them balls or strikes depending on who's pitching.

Speaker 14 (16:37):
I know you can make an argument of why would
we soil our commemoration of the birth of this nation
with someone like John Meischam at MSNBC, But I think
it's very important to see the mindset of the elites
in this country right there. Patrick Donald come in. It
was the very unreason. That's why you have to and

(17:02):
they don't teach you like this, and they don't teach
you like this for a reason. They don't teach that
the war was not just industry caly linked. The war
was upon them. They understood this. It took a lot
of time for that expeditionary force to get from I
think Halifax up in Canada down. They knew it was
coming when this document was drafted, when this document was debated,

(17:28):
when this document was then read, and it is final,
when the document was signed. The revolutionary generation understood they
were putting it all online because the British were already
here and they weren't going to give it up. And
they knew they weren't going to give up, not just
the British Crown, but you had the monopolistic power of

(17:49):
the British East India Company and other powerful economic forces,
which they also don't teach. It was here they landed
on the second of July. This great fight for America
I think started in mid August, and it was a
route at first, an absolute route, as the British envision
it would be. They would put this thing down in
the first ninety days and hold that up for the

(18:10):
world to see. You part of the British Empire. You
want to break off? This is what's going to happen
to you. And they would have hung them all. They
would have hung them all. And John Meacham was sitting
there pontificating, oh the reason. No, as we know from history,
only about a third of the people backed up that document,
one third of which Dickison was one of the best.

(18:33):
But a third were hardcore Tories. They were Englishmen. This
is what Dickinson kept arguing, We're Englishmen, what are we
doing here? The Tories who a lot of it, not
all of it, but a lot of it was the
wealthy class fought with the British. There were tremendous particularly
down south, actually conscripted in and volunteered for the British

(18:56):
Army to put down the rebellion. One third were in
the middle. That's always human nature. This is what we
have here in the United States. You have MAGA, you
have the hardest core opposition to MAGA, and you have
a lot of people kind of in the middle scene which
way the full the buffoon. Elmo the Mook formerly known
as Elon musk Elmo the Mouk. He's today in another

(19:21):
smear and this is only a foreigner could do this.
Think about it. He's got up on he's got up
on Twitter right now, a poll about starting an American party.
A non American starting an America party. No, brother, you're
not an American. You're a South African. And if we

(19:41):
take enough time improve the facts of that, you should
be deported because it's a crime of what you did.
Among many. But the audacity today with President Trump on
a roll using democratic procedures as messy as they are,
and they're messy, and the compromises you have to make
because you have to make compromises I know which many

(20:02):
in the audience here don't like, including myself, But hey,
that's the way it is. Let's push forward what we
got and we'll get more later. And President Trump dropped
a bomb. I'm not going to discuss it today. I'll
discuss it tomorrow about his friends on the radical right.
Thank you, President Trump for acknowledging the war room and

(20:23):
the war room posse. Yes, we are your friends and colleagues,
and we are the radical right if that means standing
up for this country and the deportation and repelling the
illegal alien invasion, then so be it. It was one
reason that won the revolution. Reasonable men, reasonable people, people

(20:48):
who are compromised and said, hey, we're part of the
greatest empire on Earth that they're building. There are kindred spirit,
there are mother country. Look at what they're doing in India.
They got all of North America. If Canada, we're gonna
be the ground floor. We're gonna make so much. Elon
must We're gonna be taking something right. We're gonna be
making money, we're gonna have We're gonna be the exalted Hell.

(21:10):
If they have a parliament, roll run it. If they
less in Commons will be the delegation. If not, we'll
figure out something. Reasonable men is said, give me, give me,
give me, give me, give me. Unreasonable men said, hey,
screw you, we're out. We're gonna fight. And if hey,
if if we if we lose, you hang us. Big
deal with spitting your eye before the uh, before you drop,

(21:33):
before the gallows fall. It's unreasoned, meetcham. That's why we're free.
That's what Maggie is and that's what you hate about it.
We're not reasonable, We're not gonna be reasonable. We're gonna
fight for this country, the same country that the revolutionary
generation created has been passed down to us, to every

(21:54):
patriot's grave. It'd be so easy, this audience, the precinct strategy,
all the work you've done, going door to door, texting congressman,
and all the times when you see the last week,
you know, the no cuts, the frustration. I can't do
it anymore, Steve, I go to the precinct strategy. I
got a bunch of rhinos there, and all they're doing
is backstabbing us. The easiest thing in the world, the

(22:16):
reasonable thing to do, is just say, let's go play golf,
let's go play tennis, let me get on a yacht,
let's just go do something. Let's hang with the kids,
let's just go enjoy ourselves. What it was the Roman philosopher,
just give them bread and circuses. Was a juvenile said,
just give them bread and circuses and they'll never rebel.

(22:37):
That's what the whole twentieth century is. That's where they're
trying to law you to sleep. They're trying to law
you to sleep. The easiest thing to do is stay asleep,
to not awake. You've awakened and in that awakening, you
have a responsibility that you were going to be weighed

(22:59):
and measured by future generation. But more important, God himself,
Divine Providence himself, because this is a providential movement. Trump's
not particularly churchy. He sees that he feels that you
can see it now, not for not for his aggrandizement, agrandizement.

(23:19):
The most reasonable thing in the world is when Trump
had the election stolen, went back to Marlago, when Murdock's
trying to make him a non person, and and and
uh and McConnell. All these guys are gonna peach him
and be rid of him, never hear from him again.
We got the SIMP and we got nicky Haley, we
got them all. What's to say. Let me just go

(23:39):
make some money, Let me restore my wealth that they've
stolen from me. Let me spend time with the family,
let me my bed. Mister will be back at the PGA.
They'll get in the PGA tournament. They'll let Turnberry be
in the Open Rota of the Open Championship. Everything will
be fine. All I gotta do is be reasonable. He
wasn't reasonable. No reasonable man would do what he did

(24:01):
to come back, and that's why he's in the pantheon
of Washington and Lincoln and Trump to the reclamation of
the nation. What has happened over the last couple of
weeks would have never happened. It wasn't just Biden. They
were going to pass it down, just like stopping Clinton.
This is the whole deep state and what they represent,

(24:21):
the globalists that have sucked the blood and the vitality
out of this republic. And look at Mandami, just watch
his campaign. Look, they hate the United States of America.
They're anti American. And this has come from the finest institutions,
in the finest schools. This is not some revolution that

(24:41):
was among the poor, came out of you know, some
traveling group of gypsies in some camp. It came from
the finest institutions in this republic. No, we're totally unreasonable.
We're totally un reasonable, and we have not yet begun

(25:02):
to fight. We will never ever, ever quit. That's why
I told the Financial Times interview that I said Trump
is going to be in the minds of the elites
and the opposition to them until the end of time,
because we are never going to quit. Are we gonna
have speed bumps. Yes, are we gonna have defeats? Yes?

(25:25):
Are we ever going to be beaten?

Speaker 16 (25:28):
No?

Speaker 14 (25:30):
Is that not the lesson of the revolution. They had
many losses, They had many, many defeats. Patrick K. O'donald
can walk you through in the first ninety days, a
fiasco of defeat and retreat, defeat and retreat. But they

(25:51):
were never beaten.

Speaker 16 (25:53):
That's the Maga movement.

Speaker 14 (25:55):
That's our place in American history today. Today we'll go
out with some beautiful music from Diane Diane Taras, please
get her album, and we will return in the Worom just.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
A moment formed the new deminianaland of liberty. The world
chill on, We're free even here, and such will ever
be hazahaza for free American some future day shall coral

(26:35):
on ustarmasters of the honey our fleet shall speak in
thunder to England, France and Spain. Nations over the ocean
spread shall tremble Land of Hobbey. The prince who rules
by Freedom's lost in nor the marri.

Speaker 14 (26:59):
Use your Stephen K.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Bath.

Speaker 14 (27:06):
All the writing right now is what a role President
Trump's on is on.

Speaker 16 (27:09):
Quite a role.

Speaker 14 (27:10):
We're gonna break down a lot of that tomorrow where
actually we stand and we're going to talk about the
implementation of the big beautiful bill across the board of
many different aspects of it. Also, Phillip Patrick is going
to join us. Phillip's going to join us from Rio.
He's there with the Global South in the Bricks conference.

Speaker 16 (27:29):
We're going to talk.

Speaker 14 (27:30):
He's been talking to central bankers, he's been talking to
finance ministers. So we're get caught up with the team
at Birch Gold. Really proud of the fact that they
went down to Rioca. Is such a big deal on
the de dollarization movement throughout the world. In folks, it's
a big movement because they back it up by controlling
the resources in the world. So they got some stroke,
particularly as they unite together. And many of them are

(27:52):
quite anti American, right. We have a few friends in
the Bricks movement, particularly India. But you've got the k
g B Russia, You've got China, the CCP, the head gangsters,
and of course you got the Mullahs in Iran. The
and President Trump's pretty adamant. He didn't that was not
a good call your stay with Putin. Putin essentially said,

(28:14):
we don't really need your involvement in the UH in
this working out of a deal with Ukraine that's between us.
It's a bye lateral between us and them. And of
course I think last night Russia unleashed a brutal attack
upon Kiv, upon the Capitol.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
UH.

Speaker 14 (28:28):
President Trump, I'm sure it is not too happy about that.
Might want to talk about programming today. The War Room
will be back live. I don't know if at four
o'clock or five o'clock, as soon as we find out.
Has it been my crack staff, It was up in
the air where the President Trump's gonna sign at four
or five the Big Beautiful Bill. But it's gonna be
a big deal. President Trump's gonna sign the Big Beautiful Bill.

(28:49):
We will be back live for commentary and observations also
UH to show it. I think David Zero will be
anchoring our our coverage from the White House today. We
have our camera crew there. And I just want to
give a hat tip to the coverage yesterday of from
Iowa from the State Fair. Ambassador Monica Crowley put on

(29:12):
with America two fifty. It was an absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 16 (29:17):
Just event and just packed. The crowd was incredible.

Speaker 14 (29:20):
People entered. The weather was great. President Trump's speech for
the most part was great. Had a you had a
few speed bumps. We'll talk about that. Let's talk about
that tomorrow or Monday. But incredible speech.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
He was.

Speaker 14 (29:34):
He was on a roll. His administration's on the role.
Things are coming together, and it just I don't think
anybody's ever had more successful for six months of an
administration than what President Trump is doing in the in
the reclamation of our nation of returning her to her
her greatness. So we'll be back here live on the
fourth John. Normally we don't do an afternoon show. We're
just doing this. Rob sig and Parker sig Or make

(29:56):
it available because I think everybody realized very important to
cover the low life signing. I'm sure President Trump, as
he is wont to do, may have a couple of
three comments right, and he disintermediates the mainstream media and
talks right to the people. So we'll try to catch
all of that. If in this I don't know if
it's locked in for four or five. My crack staff
is going to tell me here in a minute or two.

(30:19):
Patrick k O'Donnell, I don't want to because I don't
have you tomorrow. Normally we would do a couple of
days of coverage on this. But you wrote two amazing
books in the Combat History of the Revolution, both the
Indispensables about the guys from Marblehead that were actually the
kind of the crew for both the American Dunkirk and
of course crossing the crossing the Delaware, and they were.

(30:41):
There were so many other key elements also Washington's and mortals,
which you really get the American thermopyly right there in Brooklyn.
Why don't you tell me about that because American Americans
don't understand there were some because it's not taught. There
were some epic battles in the first I don't know,
ninety days of the formation of the Republic as the

(31:02):
fourth of July. They're among the most important battles in
American history, and just have not gotten the coverage until
guys are here. In fact, the American Thermopylae, the American
Thermopyla is the heroes of it are buried in an
unmarked grave somewhere in Brooklyn.

Speaker 15 (31:22):
Sir, Yeah, this is one of the greatest battles in
American history that nobody knows about until I wrote Washington's immortals,
which is about the Maryland four hundred or the bayonets
of the Revolution.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
This is the.

Speaker 15 (31:40):
Marylanders that make an epic stand that it's an hour
in our history. Weren't precious than any other is One
contemporary historian of the time said, and the British were
about to destroy much of Washington's army had it not
been for the Marylanders, though, that they charge near house

(32:00):
that is manned by troops from Earl corn Wallace, and
the men make a series of charge the under the
command of Lord Sterling or General Sterling in the American Army,
that they form up into ranks several times. They're one
of the few units to actually have bayonets in an American

(32:21):
unit to have bayonets.

Speaker 8 (32:22):
And they charge the house.

Speaker 15 (32:24):
And as they do this, they open up a gap
in the line and allow much of the army to
retreat towards the heights of Brooklyn. But in the process
they sacrifice themselves. These are the sons of the South,
some of the greatest families within Maryland that are, as
Walt Whitman would say, were blown to atoms by Cornwallis's

(32:48):
cannon that were there, and musket fire, but they sacrifice
themselves to you know, for the good of the army,
but in the process they're forgotten. And I came across
their sign nearly fifteen twenty years ago, fifteen years ago
or so, and it said, you know, here lie two

(33:11):
hundred and fifty six Continental Soldiers Maryland Eros. And I
wanted to know the story behind that. You know, what's
a sign doing on a VFW post American Legion post
where there's these American heroes and they are buried somewhere
in Brooklyn. Many of the men were also captured and

(33:31):
were put on prisoner ships in New York Harbor, and
these were kind of floating concentration camps where the men
were not fed. You know, disease ran rampant, and most
of the men died on the ships and then their
bodies were just thrown overboard and the bones would just
wash ashore at Gravesend Bay and also other parts of
Long Island, and many of them are gathered at a

(33:55):
memorial in Brooklyn, just bones. We don't know many of
the names of these individuals. But somewhere near the stone
House Park which is still there, where they've recreated the
actual stone house that Cornwallis's men were in from the
original stones. This is where this really, this incredible action

(34:18):
takes place by the Marylanders. And I detailed this in great,
great detail in Washington's Immortals as well as in my
other best selling Built the Indispensables. And that hour prevents
the combined weight of you know, twenty thousand British soldiers

(34:40):
as well as Hession soldiers from uniting and crushing the
United States most of the army, which is in the
heights of Brooklyn. This is why it's so important, because
had they been able to unite Washington's army, much of
it would have been destroyed, and even Washington himself would
have been captured probably and the rebellion or the United

(35:03):
States as we know it probably would cease to exist.
But it leads up to really the second thing that
you mentioned, which is the American Don kirksty.

Speaker 14 (35:15):
And tell me about. So you had Thermopyla and then
a few days later they had to make a decision. Remember,
the army was virtually shattered, and the whole strategy of
wash General Washington that you had to have an army
in being that you had to have to keep intact
the American as small as it was the Continental Army,

(35:36):
so that you actually had something. The militias would have
something to rally around, and you at least have some
sort of professional as stragglers as they were, you have
some sort of professional army. You had to keep the
army intact. And that's why when they got backed up
to Brooklyn Heights, and those are familiar with New York.
Brooklyn Heights at the tip of Brooklyn looks right across
the East River right there to Lower Manhattan. It's where

(35:59):
the Brooklyn Bridge is, or just south of where the
Brooklyn Bridge is today. They got backed up. They got
their backs up there. In Washington, there was a I
think General Lord Sterling and others wanted to take a
stand and just dig in against redoubts and take on
the British. But General Washington made a decision that he
was going to extract the army and try to get across,

(36:22):
which was, as you know, one of the most dangerous
things to try to amphibious. Try to get troops across
any body of water is always dangerous, particularly when you
have the Royal Navy is right there in New York Harbor,
right off the battery with warships. So talk to how
did we actually extract ourselves out of there and save

(36:45):
the army?

Speaker 10 (36:45):
Sir?

Speaker 15 (36:47):
This is American Dunkirk and American miracle because you have
a massive army of over twenty thousand British troops in
front of you along with their Heshian allies, and then
be behind you is this massive British fleet that could
potentially sail up the East River behind the fortifications at

(37:10):
Brooklyn Heights and destroy the army. And it's Washington decides
to evacuate, and it falls upon the shoulders of the
indispensables or the Marblehead mariners, who are the most experienced
sailors in the entire Continental Army. And they're only given
a few hours to assemble all these small boats that

(37:33):
they can find and then begin this operation to transport
the wounded, the cannon, the horses, everything over and initially
Steve it's an absolute disaster because the tides in the
river rivers a torrent.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
It's raining out.

Speaker 15 (37:52):
There's a nor'easter that's taken place over the last two
days that hits the armies, and it's of the East
River is very swollen. There's lots of currents that are
very strong, you know, to which prevents in some cases
the British fleet from actually moving up behind the Americans.

(38:14):
But it's also very challenging to cross, and the Marbleheaders
aren't getting anywhere initially, and they try to find Washington
to call off. The operation can't be found, thankfully, because
they continue to press on and they start to move
people off Brooklyn over towards Manhattan. And this is not

(38:37):
a one time thing. They have to do this twelve times,
crossing the river in the in the middle of you know,
the night, and with a massive army in their front
and with the British fleet off to their side, and
it's a race against time, steed. There's there's all of
these elements that the variables that the Cottinel Army has

(38:59):
to say somehow overcome in the Maryland and the Marble
Headers in particular, they're fighting these currents and tides. But
then suddenly the wind changes and allows them to move
more men back and forth. But dawn is coming and
with it the prying eyes of the British as well
as a twenty thousand men or more army that's rate

(39:21):
to pounce on the entrenchments, which are not manned, but
only just a small force as the manner evacuating. And
it's here really that you know, the hand of God
finds America, and a fog sets in at exactly the
right time in the right place, which screens the movement
and allows the army to evacuate, and the Marbleheaders to

(39:44):
move the army across to Manhattan safely, one of the
greatest evacuations in military history.

Speaker 14 (39:52):
And the hand of providence which was not lost on
General Washington and his staff in the troops that fog.
If that fog had not come in, and if the
fog had not been so thick, no chance that the
army could have been extracted without massive casualties from the
Royal Navy. The hand of God in the early days

(40:15):
of the Revolution. By the way, those folks that were
fighting there on Brooklyn Heights and extracted, they were quite unreasonable.
The reasonable thing would have been to work with the
British and work some deal out. One third of their
countrymen were doing that, and particularly it was infested in
New York and particularly Lower Manhattan. That was one of

(40:35):
the worst parts of tourys. In fact, they tried to
I think a couple of times during the revolution actually
tried to break off short commercial break. Independence Day, the
two hundred and forty ninth anniversary of the birth of
this the greatest nation in the history of mankind.

Speaker 16 (40:52):
Next in the.

Speaker 8 (40:53):
Ward, use your host Stephen K.

Speaker 14 (41:00):
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thank you so much for changing your day up to

(41:43):
join us here at Live on our fourth of July commemoration.
People already know my phone's blowing up, the chat's blown up.
Where do we get your books? I know you're working
on your third installment of your trilogy on the Revolution
that'll be out in a year or so. But where
do they get the first two books in the Revolution, sir?

Speaker 15 (42:01):
The best place to go is Amazon dot com or
Barnesandoble dot com. They're at the front of the stored
Barnes and Noble in most cases at least Washington's and
Mortals and inspencils always covered in the military history section.
You can find me at Combat Historian on getter as
well as x or my website, Patrick Kaodonald dot com.

(42:22):
It's always an honor to be on the show, Steve,
so it's a great It's always great to celebrate our
independence with you.

Speaker 14 (42:31):
Well, it always says, particularly the way you bring reality
to it. So not just flowery words, but the deeds.
It was words and deeds, and the deeds as powerful
as the words were, the deeds are what got us through.
I wore Patrick Caredonald.

Speaker 15 (42:48):
It's about individuals that were willing to put it all
on the line, their fortune, family and honor. And it's
a small group of individuals that will change history. And
that is it holds today as much as it did then.

Speaker 14 (43:04):
Ordinary men and women doing extraordinary things. Write that down.
Take your number two perencil out. Does that remind you
of yourself? Write it down ordinary citizens doing extraordinary acts
to really guarantee it, get our freedom, and guarantee our
freedom and passing on our freedom future generations. Thank you
very much, Patrick, honor to have you on here. We're

(43:27):
going to be back today five pm Eastern daylight time.
If that changes, keep an eye open for mouth breathing
imbecile Grace Chong MBI, what a great that's a brand.
You gotta start merchandising that brand. Grace, as you know,
comes with a little edge. Make sure you followed Grace today.
We may change up at fourth White House telling us

(43:48):
right now five o'clock we're we be back at five
o'clock alive to cover the signing of the big beautiful
bill President Trump on a roll, I'm sure have a
few observations for the media.

Speaker 16 (43:57):
We want to be there when he does.

Speaker 14 (44:00):
Make America healthy again. Trevor Comstock, what do you got
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Make sure everybody goes to Sacred Human Health and look
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Happy forth of July Independence Day, coming independent from bad health.

(46:40):
How about that, Mike Lindell, somehow they let you out
of the White House. I thought we had you cornered.
Who allowed Mike Lindell? The first day? Anybody can make
a mistake, secret service anybody maybe's sake. The second day,
that's when you hit my trip. Whire Mike Lindell on
the White House? Two days where Mike, what do you
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sheets right off?

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And what a great time it was in DC?

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Everybody. I'm back home.

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You've stood with us through thick and thin, and the
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Mich Lindell, Happy Independence Day, sir. You are independent and
you kept your independence by fighting. Thank you, brother, awfully speak.

Speaker 16 (48:40):
So honored to do this show.

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Given the gravity of this day right and what it
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