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November 21, 2024 48 mins

STEPHEN K. BANNON
CHRIS HOAR
MIKE LINDELL

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start with that stunning announcement less than an hour ago
that Matt Gates is withdrawing his name from consideration to
serve as Donald Trump's Attorney General.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
In a tweet.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Announcing the decision, Gates said his confirmation was becoming a
distraction to the incoming administration, writing quote, there is no
time to waste on a needlessly protect protect protracted Washington scuffle.
Trump's doj must be in place and ready on day one.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Fast.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
That could have been one of the first political flashpoints
of the new Trump era is over, and it ended
not with a bang but a bit of a whimper.
Matt Gates today withdrawing his nomination for Attorney General in
a post saying this quote, there is no time to
waste on the needlessly protracted Washington's scuffle. Miss estrawal comes
after a day spent on Capitol Hill talking to Republican

(00:49):
Senators alongside JD. Vance in amid a steady drip of
CD revelations out of the investigations into mac Gates that
would ultimately turn into a.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Fly to me at least that Matt Gates is acting
in self interest. I think the particulars of this ethics
investigation would have come out, and he would have.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Had to deal with them.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
He would have had in the administration, the incoming administration.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Would have had to deal with them.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I think it's a self interested move, and I
don't want us to get too far over our skis
with regards to Republican senators here, I think Matt Gase
is an easy case for them to exercise advice and
consent in this regard.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
But I still think Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Will be consistent in his effort to in some ways
reel the DOLJ in he's worried about its independence.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Donald Trump is.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
In so many ways with these appointments, trying to consolidate
his view of executive power. And so, just as Ken noted,
we need to be concerned about who's going to who
he's going to nominate in.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Place of Gates. So I think two things.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
One Gates is acting in self interest to the Senate
lest I get over our skis in terms of them
being a check in balance on Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And three, let's just rig it.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Realize we're in the chaos again and here it is
is just beginning.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So change the face, but not the plan exactly. So
what do you see coming, Eddie, what are you going
to be watching for?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So my whole idea, I think there are two things
that are running parallel that are about to converge. One
is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power.
We've been worried and concerned about the imperial presidency up
until this point. We're going to see an.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Imperial presidency on steroids.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
And so there's a reason why he wants to have
a certain kind of appointment in DJ.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
There's a reason for.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Tassi, for Gilbert Gabbert and D and I there's a
reason for the appointment of d D. I think we
need to understand that for what it is. And then
I also think there's also this effort to gum up government,
not so much to apply, you know, to appoint people
who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folks
who are committed to really deconstructing the administrative state.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
And so part of what we need to keep track
up is how.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
He's going to try to consolidate imperial executive power. And two,
how he's going to try to gum up government by
way of appointing people we really have no interest in governor.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's

(03:31):
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Will be saved.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Or here's your host, Stephen Kvan. It's Thursday, correct, twenty
one November year, twenty twenty four. Welcome to the late
afternoon early evening show of the Ward. In fact, this
is the type of day that the afternoon evening show

(04:13):
is made for, when something explosive happens through the day
that informs everything we're working on. Matt Gates has has
withdrawn his nomination and look, let's be brutally frank, you
can't take this any other way than a Mitch McConnell win.
I mean, they're laughing up there in the Senate, they

(04:39):
just are. They also smell, they taste blood in the water.
Everybody had to hang together on this and kind of
force it across the goal line. If you're going to
do something like this, it's high risk, but it's super
high reward. Matt Gates was the Warrior's warrior, always going
to be a risky choice. But just over a week

(05:01):
indo it punches out. I'm sure for good reasons. I
think one thing, and I want to get back to
Professor Eddie Glaud from Cloud I think from Princeton, who
I think very succinctly walk through what's going on here.
But before I do, I want to make sure the

(05:22):
audience is totally informed. Do we have off of my
getter feed or if Grace has put it up on
Twitter yet, if you can pull this story of yesterday
and just put it up on the screen, or from
this morning. This is when they went around yesterday, and
this was Senator j. D Vance, the Vice President elect

(05:44):
of the United States of America, took Matt Gates around.
They had to make deals in the room, and yesterday
was not particularly successful. The rationale of Gates is that, hey,
at the end of the day yesterday I had four
hard nos. I had Murkowski, I had Collins, I had McConnell,
and added the guy Curtis. This is the worst than

(06:07):
Romney clone out of Utah. Folks in Utah understand you
got a problem out there. You got a problem out there.
So they had four dug innos. But my point is, hey,
in the first couple of days, you're taking incoming because
there's no comms plan, there's no surrogates out there. You're
just getting brutalized every day. That's not the worst thing
in the world. Gates said, there's another four that I

(06:31):
guess after yesterday told him essentially were quasi hard knows.
That's eight. You got the president. We haven't put forth
an effort here. There really hasn't been any communications plan.
There's been no surrogates out there. I'm not even sure
he had assigned some senator like a Norm Coleman or

(06:53):
someone to provide him air cover. Not even sure that
was installed. This is the very early stages. That's a
pretty quick withdrawal. But I want to bring your attention
to at least according to the reporting of Politico and
other people in the room, what Gates was forced to
trade off, and I think that is MSNBC, Fauci and Cheney,

(07:20):
among others. There would be no investigation of in the
criminal the vast criminal conspiracy of MSNBC. This is your
senators putting pressure, putting pressure on Gates in the room.
No investigations into Fauci, no investigations in the Cheney. Think

(07:41):
about this for a second. All the murder in Mayhem
caused by Fauci, all the deaths, all the carnage, everything
that happened during the COVID years. They I have not
verified this. I'm going off of this. This is mediaites.
I think it's politicos reporting, but other people's reporting that

(08:05):
these meetings they even started like trading chits that if
they were prepared to not sponsor Gates, but according to them,
hold their nose and vote for him and not come
as a hard note. Right now, what you had to
what you had to give up. And that's just to repeat,
No investigation into doctor Fauci, no investigation into Weismann. In

(08:29):
this crowd from everywhere, going all the way back to
the original Russia hoax, was with a shifty shift and
Rachel Matt on that crowd, and no investigation of Cheney
in her relation to the J six committee. What you
did on the JA six committee. That's for starters. That's

(08:49):
his first day up there. This is the easy day.
We're not into the hard days. The hard days would
be in late December when you're grinding through. There was
some truly hard nose and hey, Matt, you've had a
month and a half and Trump's had a month and
a half to grind this through and we're still a
hard no or we're on the border. You got to
give me something. You got give me something. You gotta
give me a US I need a US attorney out

(09:12):
in my because it's all horse trading. You've got to
give me a US attorney out in h you know,
out in my home state. Or I need somebody at
I need a couple of sub cabinet positions over at USDA.
I need this. This is the horse training that goes on.
They're horse trading out on the first day. No investigation
of doctor Fauci, no investigation of MSNBC, no investigation of Cheney.

(09:36):
This is the Senate. The Senate is the Human Resources
Department of the United States Government. This is the check
and balance of the brilliants of our founders, and it
was quite brilliant. But they're the human Their primary function
is Human Resources Department, or treaties. And as you know,
the United States were not into treaties. You know, this

(09:58):
is why Climate and the nowadays have gone out of
their way to make sure they're not treaties because they
can't get two thirds of the Senate essentially, can't get
tough to get over fifty a couple of votes. Gates
is gone. Gates is gone, and I think we have
to be brutally frank, I'm not here to look the

(10:24):
war imposse and the cadres and all that. You guys
are gonna get to the ramparts and we're gonna win
just like we won last time. But hey, you're gonna
hit speed bumps. And here was a victory of this
is Mitch McConnell and Trump took a bullet to the head,
won a landslide. They don't hold the House and they

(10:44):
certainly don't take the Senate. It's all Trump, and already
they're reasserting themselves. They're reasserting non maga they're asserted, they're
not to Trump and the President. Please, mister President, understand
the people around you. They tell you this is okay.
This is not okay. You're not going to get anything done, nothing,
zero unless we forg just like in football, unless we

(11:09):
force your will upon it and we can, it's not
going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's just
not going to happen. Because the forces of resistance, and
they're vast on the radical Democratic side. Ray and Mayorkas
refuse to testify in front of the Democrats Senate because

(11:30):
they don't want to come back and have to do
in front of the House. Refuse to testify this people
pouring across the border. They're playing games with the balance
sheet of the Fed and the balance you of the
United States. You know about how they're financing the debt.
You got this war metastasizing Posto's coming at six o'clock,
This war in Ukraine couldn't be more serious. To go
to Drudge and I realized Drudge is not the Drudge

(11:51):
of all. But look at the mac daddy on Drudge.
Look at the macdaddy on Drudge. This thing is as
serious as you could possibly get they're they're Trump proofing
this government. Are the Republicans doing as good a job
as possible and stopping the judge no braun and cruising
on and around. I don't know what Cruise is doing

(12:13):
down there hanging out with Inline. We don't need you
hanging out with Inland. Senator, You're you're the best of
the best when it comes to the Constitution, you're the
best of the best. On judiciary, you've got to be
the best. The best is standing in the breach and
stopping these judges. This is full game on now, and
I hope people I've been sitting here, I feel like
kind of the the voice in the wilderness. Everybody's wandering around.

(12:33):
They want to go to parties, and they're all doing this. Look,
we had the parties last night, but we went right
to work after that, gave a speech, and came back
here ten o'clock at night, nine thirty. Kit we're grinding
into three in the morning. I'm not saying nothing special.
This is other people doing it too, But this is
not a time for celebration. This is a time for
grinding work. Or in this interregnum, before Trump even gets

(12:54):
to January twenty they're going to have it locked down
and we're going to be nowhere. This is all about
staying on offense. And we hit right perfectly the first
couple of days. Perfect. You sucked them in with the
Rubio in the Walls announcement, maybe even a little Ratcliffe.

(13:15):
And they're sitting there on the Sidney shows, He's going
to be so normal, it's gonna be so great, it's
gonna be so he's getting Republicans, he got, you know,
Nicki Haley's bounce around, whit Pompeo's bounce around. All gonna
be fine, This is all gonna be great. And then kaboom, kaboom,
you boom the five Horsemen of the Deep State Apocalypse.
So hey, guess what on Wednesday, on Thursday afternoon of

(13:36):
the twenty first of November, twenty one November, they're Verler
twenty twenty four eighty five horsemen. It's four horsemen. One
horseman's gone gone. And we got to face a fact.
There is blood in the water, and they smell the blood.
They understand they could either all hang together or you

(13:56):
going to hang separately. They get this. This is why
they're going to try drive wedges in and try to
call the herd. This is Alynski one on one. That's
what we're up against. Alynski one on one. If people
better savvy up to this and honkered down and guess what,
it's fixed, Bannetts, Let's see who's tough enough. We're tougher
than them. If we get organized and say guess what,

(14:18):
no more, no more. People have to understand. Don't think
this is a speedbum It's a lot deeper in speed bombs.
Matt Gates was the best of the best, the best
of the best. You know, we say here in the
war room, wait for it, wait for it. Next man up,

(14:41):
short commercial break, We're going to be back in the
war room in just a moment.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
At least Matt Gates is acting in self interest. I
think the particulars of this ethics investigation would have come.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Out and he would have had to deal with them.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
He would have had in the administration, the incoming administration.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Would have had to deal with them. So I think
it's a.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Self interested move, and I don't want us to get
too far over our skis. With regards to Republican senators here,
I think Matt Gase is an easy case for them
to exercise advice and consent in this regard. But I
still think Donald Trump will be consistent in his effort
to in some ways reel the DOJ in he's worried
about its independence.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Donald Trump is in so many ways with these appointments,
trying to.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Consolidate his view of executive power. And so, just as
Ken noted, we need to be concerned about who's going
to who he's going to nominate in place of Gates.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
So I think two things.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
One, Gates is acting in self interest to the Senate,
Let's not get over our skis in terms of them being.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
A check in balance on Donald Trump. And three, let's
just rig it.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Realize we're in the chaos again and here it is
is just beginning.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
So change the face, but not the plan.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
So my whole idea, I think there are two things
that are running parallel that are about to converge. One
is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
We've been worried and concerned.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
About the imperial presidency up until this point.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're going to see an imperial presidency on steroids. And
so there's a reason.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Why he wants to have a certain kind of appointment
in DJ.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
There's a reason for.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Tassie, for Gilbert Gabbert and D and I there's a
reason for the appointment of d D. I think we
need to understand that for what it is. And then
I also think there's also this effort to gum up government,
not so much to apply, you know, to appoint people
who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folks
who are committed to really deconstructing the administrative state. And

(16:45):
so part of what we need to keep track of
is how he's going to try to consolidate imperial executive power,
and two, how he's going to try to gum up
government by way of appointing people who really have no
interest in governance.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
So Professor Eddie Cloud there the professor's accurate, except for
at the end he's right about the converging. So get
your number two princils out and this piece of nomenclature,
which were making sure, folks, you totally understand the intellectual
construct of it, because the idea ideas have consequences. This

(17:22):
is an idea that's going to flow through the Trump
second term in a much more organized and coherent way
than the first term. Remember it was in February of
twenty seventeen that i'd made that had that Ryans and
I were up there with Matt Schlapp at Seapac where
I talked about the direction the lines of work of

(17:45):
the first Trump term, and at the third line I
said was the deconstruction of the administrative state. Now, we
weren't quite frankly, in the early days of kind of
this populous nationalist movement and the surprise win, we didn't
really have the intellectual firepower or the the the muzzle

(18:05):
velocity on the idea to push it through. So we
went back to kind of the deregulation mode. That's not
deconstruction administrative state. That is just taking regulations off right.
Could be very powerful, particularly for the economy, but that's
that's like at a surface level. It's not actually taking
the thing apart brick by brick and reforming it. And
that was something that was that was something that was done,

(18:26):
and it's one of the reasons we led to the
UH to the to the to the Great Economics that
we had later. But that's just regulation. In this time,
we've had much more to think about. One thing. We
got there, and this is where Mike Davis and Mark
Payletta and and and Bill McGinley and others of us

(18:48):
have been working together on this project for eight or
ten years. The other critical part of it was the
selection of the Supreme Court justice. And this gets back
to is this complicated Greek tragedy interconnects to Merrick Garland.
Merrick Garland was selected in the summer of u and

(19:09):
I think it was Acrius Scalia passed away. He was
selected to be the new Associate Justice, and the Democratic
forces were so arrogant and they were going to blow
out Trump. They didn't move his nomination forward. They didn't
force the action. They didn't force it through. Number one
is that there were a lot of people in Hillary's
camp that thought Obama was too conservative, and they thought

(19:33):
Merrick Garland was too much of a centrist. They wanted
more Larry Tribe type. Couldn't be tribed because he's too old.
Because you want to get these guys, even Garland was
quite old for what our target is, which is in
their forties. We won in an upset, so we got
that slot. The first guy out was Neil Gorsich. Neil
Gorsichs was selected for a principal reason he was the

(19:56):
intellectual architect of this movement really came from the libertarian
side of the deconstruction of the administrative, say, of taking
the administrative state on. If you don't take that on,
this Leviathan is going to overwhelm you and you're going
to have no liberty. And this is what we've seen
in these four years. That was pay Aleta and who
got him through? Who was his clerk? Who is Mike Davis?

(20:19):
And who was the guy that got him through working
with Graslonal Kavanaugh, Mike Davis. So we fought this fight.
But the thing that I realized then is that, hey,
you have to anchor it in the courts. You have
to anchor it in the courts, those checks and balance
you want to deconstruct the administrator. Say, it just can't
be the executive, it just can't be the lesson. It's
got to be anchored in the courts. And now we've
anchored it now in the working through. And this is

(20:42):
what I found so upsetting about Brennan's comments today when
we started the show. There is this concept of the
unitary executive. This is what Professor Cloud's talking about, and
this is where there's this theory of the case, particularly
in that Constitution, lays out that the president is the

(21:06):
chief executive of the government. He's also commander in chief
as a civilian of the armed forces, and he's wait
for it, the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer.
Post Watergate, this is what's been hived off. The Justice
Department is hermetically sealed, but it's all run by these

(21:30):
progressive attorneys. It's the most powerful of all the departments
because every department you have to go through Justice, you
have to go through main Justice. Plus they control all
the US attorneys throughout the country. It is immensely powerful. Oh,
by the way, and it controls the investigative branch in

(21:51):
the FBI. This fight over the unitary executive is there
coming at us saying, oh, Trump has this imperial presidency.
What they mean by the imperial presidency, they mean pre
Wartergate of Nixon and Johnson and lil mc kennedy, but
Eisenhower all the way back to FDR. The imperial presidency

(22:13):
where the executive is above everybody else. Well, you still
have the checks and balances, but the unitary executive, to me,
says that all three of these CEO Commander in chief
and Chief Magistrate. This is the reason Millie has to
be recalled to active duty. On the afternoon of the

(22:33):
twentieth in court martialed the military, the uniform services, and
also with the senior officers about Afghanistan. The military must
understand and know uncertain terms that they report to this vein.
If that's a vein, is Donald Trump or AOC or
Bernie Sanders, wherever it is, it doesn't matter. The American

(22:57):
people render a judgment, it's their judgment. That's what they
want and that's what they're going to get. That's democracy.
It's messy, and it's hard, and it's tough, and sometimes
you don't get the outcomes you like. But that's the way.
That's the way the structure of the government's work. And
we've got this fourth branch of government that the Founders
and Framers, the revolutionary generation, not in a billion years

(23:19):
or ever felt that let we let grow around this.
This is what they hated about the Crown. Remember, their
central argument at the Crown is that the Crown, with
all this courtiers had had corrupted Commons. That Commons was
basically bought and paid for by this worthless land of
aristocracy that also, oh, by the way, gave monopolistic power

(23:39):
to companies that they chose with a crown, you know,
right of mark I e. The British East India company,
uh that brought the tea into Boston Harvard, that was
thrown over the side in the Boston Tea Party. This
fight goes back to the revolution. That's why I said

(24:01):
when I say we are we are linked by Patriot
graves all the way back to the beginning. We answer
to them, we answer to their memory, we answer to
their great victories. Professor Claude is only when he says

(24:23):
converging this says come up. No, it is the theory
of the unitary executive. And this gets to counter Brennan
when Brennan says, what the FBI and the city they
have to go through the security checks, and these checks
be goes. You know, they have no bro no wrong
inside the executive. There's no checking balance. There's none. The
constitution doesn't call for that. It's none. It is not

(24:45):
a checking balance inside the executive. The checks and balance
are the legislative and the judiciary, just like the executives
checking balance on them. No, sir, this is what the
deep state is the permanent government thinks that they have
a check on the what they call the politicals, the
democratic elected government. You don't have that, No, sir, No, sir, no, sir.

(25:09):
This is a convergence, Professor Glad. It is not to
gum up the works. It is actually to take it apart,
brick by brick, and to reconstitute it into a limited
government that is necessary in an entrepreneurial capitalist society, right
to make sure that we get the blessings of liberty.

(25:33):
That's it in a nutshell, and that is a massive,
massive fight. And we took a casualty today. One of
the best warriors we have in all his imperfections, and
he's quite imperfect, as Donald Trump is imperfect, as Stephen K.
Bennett is a super imperfect and Tucker Carlson and Vivek

(26:00):
Aswami and Elon Musk, Taulci Gabbert, RFK Junior, all of
it very very very imperfect instruments. But in that imperfection
is some of their power. We took a cashery today.
One of the reasons we took a cashualty. I hate

(26:20):
to say it. Let me be brutally frank. You can't
stick these people out there with no air cover. What
are we doing? You can't stick them out there and
take them off television. They're the best at selling themselves.
You take them off television for five, six, seven, eight days,
and is nothing but incoming. Where is the plan and
where is the execution of the plan. It's a big

(26:43):
defeat for President Trump today. And trust me, those demons
and jackals and hyenas up there in the United States.
Senate Mitch mccalm that crowd, they know it, yo, they
know it. Sick sure commercial break back in the moment?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Do with and had no idea? Who was involved with
Project twenty twenty five, Donald Trump's pick for his picks
for his new administration. They suggest. Otherwise, at least six
of Trump's nominees or pointees have ties to Project twenty
twenty five, either as advisors, authors, contributors, or in promotional videos.
That number is also likely to rise. Trump is reportedly

(27:19):
leading toward appointing Russ Vatt to lead the White House
Budget Office for a second time, this time with a
sharper intention. In the Project twenty twenty five chapter he
wrote on the Executive Office, he focused on the expansion
of presidential powers and a more aggressive wielding of executive authority.
So Von explained the now closer and closer ties Donald

(27:42):
Trump has to something that he disavowed during the campaign.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
He repeatedly denied having anything to do with Project twenty
twenty five, despite him speaking of course at the essentially
the launch dinner of Project twenty twenty five and noting
that these people were his friends. They carried out his
first administration, and they were going to be the masterminds
of what his second administration and transition would look like.
And you're seeing some of these figures come into his
incoming administration, people like Russ Vogue. Let's be very clear

(28:11):
if he were to take over omb. He was a
key writer in a Project twenty twenty five, writing in
part about the executive branch's use of power and making
the case that departments and agencies have taken on a
mind of their own, as he wrote, and that the
executive branch should fall under the direction of the President

(28:31):
of the United States, and that it is not up
to these departments and agencies to interpret regulations, but it's
of the courts or strict language that is written thereof
that is passed by Congress, and so I think for
Donald Trump, when you're looking at Project twenty twenty five,
we knew that they had ties, and now we are
seeing this beginning to play out based off the individuals
who he is bringing back into the fold. Because it

(28:53):
was these folks who wrote that nine hundred page book
on how the departments and agencies could more effectively run.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, and this was seen as a blueprint for what
Donald Trump could do if he were to win again.
Donald Trump obviously disavowed it, but he's appointing people who
have ties to it. As we keep talking about Olivia.
When you look through Project twenty twenty five, I know
it's a very long booklet, and you're looking at who
he's putting into these positions of power.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
What is your expectation of how.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
That manifest will manifesto will end up affecting decisions made
while Donald Trump is back in.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
The White House.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Oh, I had no doubt that this agenda will be implemented. Look,
I mean this started during the first Trump administration. I
think some of these policies were tested and they were
met with resistance from people who were adhering to the
rule of law and what government is really meant to do.
It's for the people, by the people and serving them.
But I think that there are there is a group
that has a very extreme agenda here, and you're going

(29:53):
to see a lot of these people.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Get appointed into these roles.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
And I want to get back to rest vote because
I think that is one person that I'm watching closely.
I want to make clear that that role in the
Office of Management and Budget is critical because it really
oversees the coordination of policy across the federal government. And
all of these players that are involved, like Stephen Miller,
Tom Homan, like all of these different people that are
being mentioned, were all part of the first time around

(30:17):
where they tried to push some extreme immigration measures, or
for example, when OMB got involved, sometimes they wouldn't even
allow policies that told hospitals how to wash I mean
hospital gowns during the pandemic during the crisis. These were
the whole depths because it was being held by people
working in OMB who were not doctors, who shouldn't be
involved in these processes.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
And that's why this matters.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
And so I think it's important to really study that
nine hundred page plan. I've read it front to back,
and I know that a lot of these things that
are in there. When people are like, oh, it was hyperbole, No,
these are the policy agendas and that is what we're
up against going forward.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Okay, welcome back. A lot said there, and a lot
of it quite smart. Our enemies do a good job
of deconstructing what's going on. So Russ Vote. We've had
him here for you know, on for the for the
last four years, ever since he left the Trump administration
first term. One of the single smartest guys I've ever met,

(31:16):
in one of the smartest guys ever about the US government.
Outside of the Chief of Staff, the power centers in
a west wing the first level are the Chief of Staff,
the White House counsel in OMB, and you might throw

(31:37):
a couple of senior counselors in there, whoever they happen
to be. Who are senior advisors to the to the
to the principal to potus in any administration. Right, So,
but those three run nodes of power that are essential.
Everything comes to the White House Council because everything's got

(31:57):
some legal aspect to om B has about six hundred
I think permanent employees in thirty roughly political people that
are assigned are brought in every program. When you pass
this budget, right when you pass you do the appropriations.
You pass over a budget to kind of get your

(32:18):
top line number. You then have the appropriations process where
you fight it through and then it's finally negotiating passed.
Once it goes over, it's like, well, then what happens?
How do people get the money? Well, it's broken down
office management. Budget is out to every agency, the Defense Department,
the Agriculture Department, the Interior Department, the Treasury Department, every brand.

(32:40):
How that six and a half or seven trillion dollars
get spent. Believe it or not, it's all tracked down
to literally the penny when it goes in, where it goes,
who got the money, and programmatically where they stand on
doing whatever they do. So although it may seem inefficient,

(33:01):
and it is, it is tracked. Like MTG was on
here today, say hey, we've given two hundred and fifty
billion dollars to Ukraine and she's asking for an audit
and we haven't got anything because it's sid They going,
I don't know where it goes. I don't know where
it is. They're lying to her. She knows they're lying
to her. So programmatically, OMB is a beast, and the

(33:22):
head of O and B has immense and enormous power.
This is why I keep talking about the Doge element.
And now I think because the way the Doge and
let's let's let's leave the bro side because they're beaten
on chest and that's great. We need that. That energy
helped us win on November fifth, and we need that.
We need more of that. But in the reality of

(33:44):
how actually things are going to get accomplished. If you
read the Doge let, it's not a new department. It
is a group of outside and they're very upfront vivic
and elin. We are outside the government advisors and consultants
to wait for it ONB and this makes incredible sense.

(34:05):
It's very smart, the DOGE and they're going to have
their own group. And of course MTG's got the Subcommittee
on Oversight, which I also think is brilliant to now
kind of worked in unison with Russ Vote and his
team on the Project twenty twenty five. Did I say
that I love I love triggering the libs, owning the

(34:27):
Libs with the Project twenty five. Guys that may or
may not be coming on board in this regard, if
you want to get control of the leviathan, you get
control of the cash. Remember in Watergate, follow the money,

(34:48):
follow the money. Here it is the money of not
the sources of cash, which is a problem and an issue.
This is the uses of cash. You have sources and uses.
Anytime you do a financing or merger, acquisition, restructuring, bankruptcy,
sources of cash use as a cash. This is the

(35:10):
use's side. And this is where the VEC and Elon
and others are going to go through and see how
you deconstruct this entity called a state or a government
right state power to actually come together and to try
to take programmatically because it's not always fraud abuse, it's

(35:33):
going to become programs. We're not going to do this.
We're not going to do that. We're not going to
do this. The private sector can do it, or we
incentivize people to do it. This is why RUSS vote
is so important, and this is the all important line
of work on both the finance and I think later

(35:53):
tonight or maybe tomorrow, we will have a Secretary Treasury
and a Secretary of the Treasury and maybe ahead of
the National Economic Council. I remember anchored in the anchored
in the White House, right through to an agency anchored
with with Bill mcginley's White House Counsel, right all the
way through Justice to the Attorney General, the DAG, the

(36:16):
p DAG, all of it. Now the structure, there's fine.
We have a we have a we have a problem here, Houston,
we have a problem. The anchor on the other side,
Matt Gates, is now a casualty of war. He is
a casualty of political war. He's our first casualty fixed bannets.

(36:38):
You're in the trenches, you're going over the top, boom,
Gates is gone. That happens. This is kind of the
equivalent of in the Civil War of Albert Sidney Johnson,
arguably our greatest general at the time, getting taken out
in Shiloh in April. I think of eighteen sixty two

(36:59):
at the at the you know, the kind of the
beginning of everything. You lose some of the great ones
right out of the box, or because I'm not just
sitting there arguing for rebels. General Philip Kearney, who died
second manassas one of the greats, an incredible individual, credible,

(37:19):
one armed, one of just the absolute greats killed. I
think it's second manassas another one. You just lose them
right at the beginning. And these are the types of
guys you can never you can never make up. That's Gates.
Gates is out. When he come back and be special
prosecutor do somebody? Yeh, Skates is always going to be
a player in this is the advisors to the President.

(37:40):
Does he go in the West Wing? Maybe that's what
we do. We don't have to be confirmed. There's lots
of things to do with Gates. He's a he's tremendous value.
But in the reality, in that line of work, which
AG's absolutely central, he's out and and the blood they're
blood in the water. And they got to win. They
got a big win. But on another aspect of the

(38:04):
line of work, which is equally important, and that is
the getting together of our finances in the economy and
unlocking the power of this entrepreneurial capitalist society. It is
taking on the leviathan. Because until you take on the
leviathan and get this and one, it's going to do
all kind of stuff you don't wanted to do, which
are bad things, many bad things like initiate and exacerbate

(38:29):
an invasion of your country. Think about there for a second,
initiate and exacerbate an invasion of ten or fifteen million,
are you kidding me? Illegal aliens in this country. So
the administrative state and the deep state do many, many
bad things that has to be deconstructed so that we
have a limited government that helps to maximize the potential

(38:51):
from a capitalist society, and so that folks can get
the blessings of liberty, which is the whole radical idea
that started this constitutional republic. That's it. If this wasn't
the idea we've been part of, we would have been
the anchor. You had India in the Pacific, and you

(39:12):
had in the Indian Ocean and are the Eurasian land mass,
and you had the United States and North America. They
were about the same time, roughly the two legs to
the beginning of a massive empire, the British Empire. We
opted out in the in the in basically laying the
predicate stage the kind of launch by the revolutionary generation,

(39:35):
the heroes that every patriot grave. We go back to
the revolution and because of divine providence, providential next April twentieth, approximately,
I don't know, ninety days into Trump's second term. It's
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Lexington and Concord,

(39:56):
the shot heard around the world that just doesn't happen.
Divine providence worked through Trump and worked through you your
agency to get us here today. And Hey, it's going
to be such a struggle, and today I hope this
is a wake up call. I hope this was a

(40:17):
bitch slap that we lost one of the greats. And
he may be back, but he ain't going to be
in the role that we need him as attorney general.
We lost it, but we picked up russ Vote, and russ.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Vote is a.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Organizer that can organize what Doze is going to do,
what can help organize what the appropriation is going to do,
and to give President Trump a much clearer management plan
of how we lay the predicate for the management part
of how we're going to unleash the vitality this economy
and start to finance it like adults with finance. Short

(40:57):
break back in a moment, here's your hostess. Ka Okay,
uh so I have more to say in the six
o'clock we're trying to get Ken Paxton up to join
us at six Pasobic's going to be here. A lot
going on. I've asked Pasobic to join us on things
related to Matt Gates and particularly in Ukraine. Birch Gold

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make contact with the professionals there. And if I could

(41:41):
have my clock, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, sir.
Chris Horr is with us for the war on Posse.
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(44:19):
in there, agents of change, people like Robert F. Kennedy Junior,
people like Tulca Gabbert, people like Christy Nome, people like
Cash Ptel, waiting for that one. Hope, we're not disappointed,
waiting for that one, waiting for Treasury, waiting for a
nec Right, you got heg Seth over defense. He's putting

(44:41):
a good team around him. You need change agents, agents
of change. It's not going to be easy. It's not
going to be easy. And President Trump won a sweeping
victory up on Capitol in that Senate. Right now, they're thinking, Hey,
we got him. He's the abandon of these guys. They
talk big, all hat and no cattle. They come up

(45:02):
here with the first guy, the Golden Boyd, the guy,
the Gates, the guy, he's the lead guy, the lead tank.
He's the guy boom gone, suck on that. How tough
are you, guys, Well, we're gonna have to prove a
pretty tough. I keep saying you back off of these things.
They're gonna roll you. They're gonna roll you. They're gonna
roll you. So I don't know what's happening down there,
but here's what I do know because AsSalt Mowan lion eyes.

(45:27):
You take these five guys, the five horsemen of the pocketps,
and you take them off television because I can understand me.
But you only do that if you have an air game.
Where's the air game? Where are the surrogates, where are
the sponsors? Where's the constantly boom boom boom? They're out
there buck ass naked with no air cover. Of course
they're gonna get crushed. And then people say, always Gates.

(45:48):
You know, hey, I don't want to hear it. Trump
gave an order, and to command is us us to
execute on it. You got an order, execute on it.
If you've got a problem with that, talk about it
up front. But once the order, once the plays call,
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got a situation over there. We've got a metastasizing conflict
and somebody better in the house better get Biden and

(48:32):
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