November 28, 2024 • 49 mins
THE WAR ROOM THANKSGIVING SPECIAL
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'd like to talk to you tonight about a great lady.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And she was just that, a very great lady and
a celebrity, which is something else, of course, a toast
of society. On top of that, she was a suffragette,
a sort of great grandmother of woman's lib and one
of the finest singers in this country. Her name was
Miss Julia Ward. Howe here she is in the happy
autumn of her brilliant life. Now, Miss Julia was born
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before photography was invented, and though there were cameras, by
the time, Miss Julia had grown up to be beautiful,
and she was, you know, very beautiful. If there is
a photo made of her back in her youthful days
as a breaker of hearts, I haven't been able to
find it. Never mind, after all this time, we still
remember her with so much affection because of some words
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she wrote for a song. I don't think there's any
argument that it's the greatest song ever to come out
of America, and hers of the greatest lyrics. The music
started well ahead of the It started in church and
then moved out into the battlefield. It began as a
hymn and grew to be the most heart quickening marching
song in all history, it's quite a story. Before the
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Civil War, there was an old man named Brown who
tried to start a civil war all on his own,
an angry old man who reckoned it wasn't enough just
to say that slavery was wrong. Something had to be
done about it. Slaves had to be set free. So
he and his sons and a few other people picked
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up their guns and tried to do just That didn't work,
of course, nobody was freed. Old mister Brown was caught
and tried for treason and hanged. He was either a
martyred hero or a bloodthirsty villain, depending on your viewpoint.
It's an argument that's still going on. You can dispose
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of me, he said, standing on the scaffold. You can
dispose of me very easily. This other matter has not
been disposed of, this negro question, I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The end of that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's not yet well. They buried it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Not so long afterwards.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That crazy private battle of his broke out so publicly
that it all but broke our nation in two, very
nearly destroyed us. Early on in that terrible civil war
of ours, a few soldiers picked up that half forgotten
hymn tune and improvised some words, and pretty soon an
army was marching to it. Maybe what old Brown had
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done in life was unlawful, but the spirit moving him
was freedom, a spirit in our land we like to think,
can never die. That's the sense of what the soldiers
were singing. John Brown's body lies a moldering in the grave,
but his soul goes marching on, carried the whole Union
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army into battle.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, Miss Howe was.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The lady who made it the battle hymn of the Republic,
the whole Republic, her nation, as Miss Howe's great admirer,
mister Lincoln so greatly put it, dedicated to the proposition
that all men are created equal. Her song was for
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all of us to sing, and all of us to
live by her. She'd had a sleepless night. This happened
in Washington, the Old Willard Hotel, and somehow, just before dawn,
those words all came to her all at once, as
though some other hand had written.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Them and passed them on to her.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So Miss Julia Howe got up out of her hotel
good and found, as she said later, an old stub
of a pen, And as daybreak lightened over a sleeping city,
sat down at the window, and got it all written
out before the sun had reached the paper. Those words
of hers still helped to bind and told us a
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song not for half a nation to march to, but
for a whole people to stand up and sing together.
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord. He is trampling out the vintage where the
grapes of ras are stored. He hath loose the faithful
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lightning of his terrible swift sword.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
His truth his marching on in the beauty of the lilies.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Christ was born across the sea with a glory in
his bosom that transfigures you and me. As he died
to make men holy, let us die to make men free.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
My God, he's marching on.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
H How.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord. He is trampling off the vintage where the
grapes of raphar stored.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He has losed the faithful lightning of.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
His terrible swift sword. His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Glory, Glory, Lord, Glory, Lord, Glorial.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
His tu is marching on.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred
circling camps, they have builded him and alter in the
evening dews and damps.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
I have read his righteous sentence by the.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Dim and flaring lamps. His truth is marching.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
A gory glory, Halleio, glorori cororialia, his.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
True, his marching on.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I have read fiery gospel written burnished rows of steel.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
As you deal with my.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Condemmer soul, with you, my grace shall deal that the
hero born woman crush the.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Serpent with his heir. His truth his marching on.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Glorial, Goryoryala, Gloryala.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
His truth is marching on.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
He has sounded forth the trumpet that.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Shall never all is regally sifting out the handsome man
before his judgment.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Seat, or be swift my soul to answer.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Or be jubilant my feet. His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Glory, glorialry, glory had.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
In the beauty of the release.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Christ was born across the sea with a glory in his.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Bosom that transfigures with me. As he died to make
men holy, let us die of magmentary.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Glory, Gloria, Gloryoria, glory, gloria.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
His true, his marching on.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Nine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
He is trampling off the vengeance where the crimson Rath
stared he had loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible
swift sword. His is loging, Oh, this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. There's not got a free shot on all
these networks lying about the people.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
Mega media?
Speaker 9 (09:36):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
War room.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Use your host, Stephen k Ban Okay, welcome.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
It's a Thursday, the twenty eighth of November in the
year of our Lord, twenty twenty fourth Thanksgiving Day, and
this our Thanksgiving Day special. I know if you're traveling
to go to family and friends for your gathering today,
spend a couple hours here with the worm on our
Thanksgiving A special right there you heard, of course, that
was Orson Wells staning up one of my favorite songs,
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the Battle Hymn of the Republic, and then Odetta.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
She just passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
She was actually going to sing battle him, I think
at President Obama's first inauguration, but I believe she passed
away right before then. It is one of my favorite,
if not my favorite rendition of the Battle Hymn of
the Battle Hymn of the Republic. So we're here today
to give thanks. This day is about gratitude. I'm gonna
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talk a lot about the founding of the country. We're
going to talk about some of the big moments in
the country's history, how it is related and has driven
us to this point at this point in time. This
is a very historical obviously a hinge of history for
us and for our movement and for this movement that's
saving the American Republic.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And we're going to talk about the Republic. We're going
to talk about some of the founding moments of it.
We're going to talk.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
About the first Thanksgiving. I'm a playback with Larry Sweikert
from last year. There's a couple of elements that absolutely
just I thought were absolutely absolutely incredible that we had
and they were so good.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Instead of trying to.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Recreate them, I said, let's us go back to the
file and cut and splice and we'll put it in fact.
The next segment is Larry Swikert in myself from last
year going through talking about I don't know election of
eighteen sixty four, of the founding of the country all that.
I'm also in the second hour, get an element up
here as you travel today for your Thanksgiving celebration to
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put in perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm going to talk.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
About the Roman Republic and the impact that the Roman
Republic had on the founders, and how we're in a
moment today kind of caught between a republican an empire,
and what our founders and the Framers are really really
thought about that and how much they look back at
the Roman Republic as a model for the United States
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of America.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It is really the.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
Lessons of the Roman Republic, the structure of the Roman Republic,
particularly the way they govern themselves through the Senate and
through the kind of the popular vote of the plebeians,
what they thought about the structure of society, and kind
of that constant tension between the populist and the aristocracy,
the populist and the elites kind of drove the Roman Republic.
How the Roman Republic fell, and how the Roman Empire,
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the rise of the Roman Empire and then the decline
of the empire all topics Today Thanksgiving Day special. As
you know, I really love these specials and particularly love
love being with you guys in these very special days. Okay,
we're gonna have Johnny Kahn, the Great Johnny Con. This
is one of my favorite songs. The reason was the
reason is is that John Con wrote this at the
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really the height of the Tea Party movement. It became
one of the anthems. Is not the anthem of the
Tea Party movement. It would always play when Andrew Breitbart spoke.
And Andrew Breitbart, the firebrand was the leader of the
Tea Party movement, was self organizing, but I would think
people most people say.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was the leader of that movement.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Very honored to know him, and I love this song
not just for the nostalgia and the memories, but how
much it means, I think, and how much it talks.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
About the soul of America.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
Well, we're talking about today in gratitude, in an appreciation,
on a Thanksgiving Day in the historic year of twenty
twenty four. We're in Levia with Johnny conn American Heart.
When we return, we're going to talk. I have the
historian Schweikert with me and we'll go through and talk
about Thanksgiving Day in American history.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Be back in the warm in just a moment.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
We don't have the same and I won't be made
to help feel a shamed Then I'm American maiden.
Speaker 11 (14:15):
I got American farm, I got American faith, an America.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
That's harm Go all raise flag.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Sack, God starts in by the pull in love her.
Then I won't the ball the jacks.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They say, then we need changing.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
This's if all the faund and father see the getty.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
Welcome back to our Thanksgiving Day special. It's Thursday, twenty
three November of the year of Earl twenty twenty three.
You know, we call Hank Williams the hill Billy Shakespeare,
but I think Johnny Cash, what is the hill billy Marlow?
Pretty close just magnificent Thanksgiving Day. We're playing that music
in and out of today. Really want to thank the
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team in Denver that's always here to help us with
these specials. Of course our crack team, production team of
the warm and always honor to have Larry Schwikert on.
I want to stick with with Lincoln. And here's why
we're starting this shair a little differently. Instead of going
back to the first Thanksgiving of when it was of one,
really the official Thanksgiving Day started because it was a
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time of trial, and I mean intense trial. If you
go back to October, and we'll go back to Gettysburg
in a second, but if you look at twenty October
eighteen sixty four when the proclamation came out, there.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Was something between.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
That date Larry in the official first Thanksgiving, and that
was called the election of eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I know we talk about elections.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
Every election is the most important election in American history
right now and the one that were facing next year,
but the election of eighteen sixty four was at that time,
and I think all the way up to the current day,
maybe sixteen, maybe twenty four as batch was the most
important election in the history of the country because it
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was going to decide the history of the country. President Lincoln,
as you remember, Larry was so concerned about the direction
of the country, and particularly the political direction. He didn't
really run as a Republican the sec time. They ran
on a national unitych I think the Union Party that
he got rid of his Vice president, Hannibal Hamlin from
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Maine and replaced him really with a Democrat from eastern
Tennessee who I think is the only still one of
the few senators in the South, and that was Andrew Johnson,
as a unity ticket.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The reason he needed a unity.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
Ticket, President Lincoln was running, which a lot of people
don't realize, he was running against his field commander of
the first years of the Civil War, and that was McClellan.
And McClellan's basically pitch essentially was we got to make
a deal with the South. We have to make a
deal and either go in peace or we'll figure something out.
But there's been too much bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're not going to win this.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Of course, Atlanta fell on one September, but.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
In August, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Didn't President Lincoln draft this incredibly controversial memo that even
Sewart and others that are very close to him on
the team of rivals. Cabinet said whoa, because essentially the
memo said to the to the to the cabinet that hey.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We're in a great conflict. We've gone all in on this,
the nation's all in on this.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
But as it looks now, because Atlanta had not fallen,
as it looks now, we could very well lose this election.
But did they say words of effect something that if
we lose, then we this cabinets somehow have to bring
this war to a successful conclusion. And it left open
whether there would be a transfer of government in March
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of eighteen sixty five, which have been the day.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Is that the.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Context in which Lincoln wrote this proclamation to set up
the first Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12 (18:31):
Well, let's go back through this a little bit. In
July eighteen sixty three, the war had been going very
badly for the Union. They had won really in the east.
Now they'd had many victories in the West, but for
some reason, the West didn't count because it wasn't Lee's
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Army of Northern Virginia. It wasn't in the eyes of
all of the eastern newspaper, and so you needed a
victory in the war in the East to solidify things,
and they really didn't get one until Antietam, which was
it was a draw, but because Lee withdrew, historians generally
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ascribed that as a victory for the North. But then
you had all sorts of other defeats and some horrible
things like Fredericksburg, and so the war was still going
very very badly for the North until Gettysburg. And in
a four day period the Union won the Battle of
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Gettysburg and the very very long ongoing siege of Vicksburg
by Ulysses Grant finally came to an end and Vicksburg surrendered,
all within a four day period.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And you would have thought, okay, war is over.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
Well it wasn't. And by mid eighteen sixty four it
was dragging on, and while the Union had had other victories,
it hadn't yet gotten that knockout victory that they well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Hang on, hang on hand.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Even I don't want to tell all they to understand
this about the tragedy of the country. The overland they brought,
they fired, everybody brought, uh brought Grant and Sherman, the
entire staff of the West to east of the White House,
and they said, we're going to go to Richmond if
it takes, however long it takes. The casually rates the
overland campaign, but by the midsummer of eighteen sixty four,
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you've had more bloodshed than ever. I mean, these campaigns
are just wars of attrition, complete just hit them South,
hit this out. They're backing up to Richmond. But the
casualty rates now, people like Seward and others are going.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You know this thing is people associate this with Gazer.
This is out of control.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
The blood here is just too much and it's not
going to stop because the Confederacy doesn't look like they're
ever going to surrender. I mean, the tragedy of the
nation is actually getting deeper and deeper and drenched in blood.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Well, and Grant was highly opposed to these kinds of campaigns.
He had agreed. His own soldiers basically convinced him to
launch an attack at Vicksburg, which he didn't want to do.
He just wanted to starve him out. But his own
soldiers lobbied him so hard he went against his own
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better judgment and launched one large scale attack. And then
his own soldiers said, you know this digging digging isn't
quite so bad as we thought. Let's keep digging for
a while. So when he comes east, he really doesn't
want to have to engage in a lot of these
frontal attacks. And he keeps moving around to Lee's right,
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moving around to his right, moving around to his right,
but Lee kept blocking him off, and once or twice
Grant thinks, maybe we have a chance, as all of
the generals on the Western Front thought in World War One,
maybe we have a chance for a breakthrough to end
this once and for all. And of course you end
up with these horrific casualties at Cold Harbor and the
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Battle of the Crater, and Grant final and says, no,
we're not going to end this by head on attacked.
We've got to keep moving around until Lee stretch so
thin he can't fight. But the key to all that
is that's a long process. And the politicians in Washington
were getting extremely concerned that the war was never going
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to end, that we weren't going to be able to
Lee would escape again to the West, and this would
go on for years and years. So Lincoln was resigned
to the fact, as you mentioned earlier, that he wasn't
even going to be the Republican nominee that year. I've
just got to go a different route. He fires Hamlin,
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he brings in a Democrat who was not like some
moderate Democrat. Andrew Johnson was a pretty radical, hard line Democrat,
but he was still in the Union, one of the
few Democrat senators who didn't leave. And Lincoln's opponent, as
you mentioned, was a very successful general which up before
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Gettysburg had given us our only major victory in the East,
McClellan the Napoleon of the West. And so Lincoln is
pretty resigned by October despite the Atlanta falling that he's
probably not going to win re election. Now, your viewers
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need to understand Lincoln is not the most optimistic of
guys many times, because he personally was a chronic depressive.
Historians don't know yet medically how to term him, but
he was such a depressive that when his first love,
Ann Rutledge left him high and dry, he literally vanished
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for almost a month. Nobody could find him, and they
thought he killed himself. Made several allusions to the fact,
don't leave me alone with a pen knife, I might
kill myself. So you can imagine his mental state in
October of eighteen sixty four, when the Confederates still haven't surrendered.
I don't think us A mobile bay had come through yet.
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And Sheridan was coming through the Shenandoah. I don't know
if he'd reported back in yet that he'd finished off
the Shenandoah Valley. It was those three things, though, Atlanta, Mobile,
Shenandoah Valley, that basically ensured the war couldn't go on
much longer. But yeah, Lincoln was prepared to say we've lost.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was his depressed nature?
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Was the nature of the overwhelming nature of the conflict,
which you already said. Seeing the horrors of Ghettysburg when
he went up there to give the address wing he
saw the horrors of Gettysburg made him a Christian?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
Was it?
Speaker 9 (24:56):
The also the incredible sacrifice of the spring and early
summer of eighteen sixty four and the overland campaign to Richmond.
It's Spotsylvania, the wilderness, Cold Harbor, remember Cold Harbor, where
they didn't even let the New York Times and people
report the casualties. They thought the country would overthrow Lincoln
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if they did. It was so horrific. I think seventeen
thousand men in like twenty minutes or some Is it
that which forced him? Is that what said, we got
to give thanks to God here. We have to reach
out to God to make sure they were right with him,
and the nation has to show its thanks or open
up its heart to God.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
I think what happened was after Gettysburg Lincoln's view that
both sides are praying to God, both sides want God's support.
We need to be on God's side. And I think
Gettysburg was the first time that Lincoln finally thought God's
on our side. God's on our side, then he's real.
God's reel, then his words real. And if his words real,
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Jesus is and I need to take action. I think
that you can't prove it, but I think that's the
thought process he went through. You know you mentioned Cold Harbor.
The soldiers were pinning their names and addresses to their
uniforms so their bodies could be shipped back to the
right place.
Speaker 13 (26:18):
That's how.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But let's take a commercial break. The last wave Cold
Harbor in June eighteen sixty four was so bad. The
last wave.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
When they got the officers got to the top of
the trenches, the milistamen said, we're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
This is a slaughter pen. That's the tragedy of the
Civil War.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
We're going to take a short break the connection between
our greatest conflict and giving thanks to God next in
the world.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
Do you When I count my blestens, I'm thinking the
Lord he made you. I'm grateful for the We've come
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to the time in the season when family and friendsgether
here to offer a prayer of thanksgiving or blessings we've
known through the year to join hands and thank the Creator.
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Now when Thanksgiving is due. This year, when I count
my blessings, I'm thinking the Lord he made you. This year,
when I count my blessings, I'm thinking the Lord he
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made you. I'm greatful for the laughter of children, the
sun and the wind and the rain, the color of
blue in your sweet eyes, the side of a high
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ball and string, the moon rise over a prairie, and
all love that you've made new. And this year when
I count my blessing, thinking the Lord he made you.
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This year, when I count my blessings, I'm thinking the
Lord he made you. And when the time comes to
be good, it won't be in sorrow and tears. I'll
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kiss you goodbye, Hanna goal Away. Grateful for all of
the years I think for all that you gave me,
for teaching me what love can do. And Thanksgiving Day
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for the rest of my life, I'm thinking the Lord
he made you. Thanksgiving Day for the rest of my life,
I'm thinking the Lord he made you.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Wow, you got a debt or debta on the battle
him of the Republic, and then you got Johnny Cash
with a Thanksgiving song?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is that a beautiful song? And is that right from
the American song Book? What a voice? What a life?
Just hear the soul of a market. You know, we play.
We play Billy String's cover on.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
When a Man Comes Around, which to me is one
of my all time favorite songs. But the Johnny Cash
version is just the original version of it, just absolutely stunning.
Thank you for being here on Thanksgiving one at the Posse.
We have so much to be grateful for, so much gratitude,
divine providence, God in Heaven has guided us and worked
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through each and every one of you. I think, to me,
that's the biggest thing to be grateful for is that
we found each other. We kind of came together self
organized over the last couple of years, to support President
Trump really in his second victory, because that's what it was,
the second victory, and now his third victory, because now
it's the third victory, second term, third victory. I do
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say this, and Divine Providence, in its wisdom, we had
to have that second victory stolen. So much became evident,
So much became evident in the last four years.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Of how far.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
The country had gone, how radical these elites were, and
how our civilization, the Judeo Christian West because of these
modernity and these modernists and these anti tradition and people
that are anti tradition, the pro system, anti tradition folks,
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how they've created a toxic culture and anti civilization they've taken.
I think the flower of mankind's all the civilizations was
the Judeo Christian West, and it still is. It's done
more to drive human endeavor and human knowledge and human
achievement than any civilization of all the other great civilizations
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the planet has had and people have had of that,
there's no doubt. That's why the American experience, that's where
there were the New Jerusalem. We're celebrating that today. What
this celebration is is that whether it's the Puritans in
New England or kind of the cavaliers down in Jamestown.
They both realize pretty quickly that as they came ashore
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and tried to carve out life in just a hostile
environment of a place with immense bounty, but you had
to get up and do it every second of every day.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
This was not England. They had to give.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Thanks to God, the divine providence that they were saved.
And think of what they created out of that small
foothold they had on the James River down in my
home state, beloved Commonwealth of Virginia, and what they had
on the coast right there on the rocky hard coast.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Of New England in Plymouth.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
It's almost it's a story that's absolutely, you know, inconceivable
in human history. That's why it's divinely inspired. That's why
we are the new Jerusalem.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And we have to.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Recognize that and embrace that and understand it that the
duty that comes with it, the duty to preserve it
and to pass it on.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
This is where you come in.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
The Puritans and the Pilgrims and Cape Cod and New England,
the cavaliers and the Virginia Company down in Jamestown. It
was their agency. There was no reason, even the dissenters
on the religious side, they could have stayed in Holland
they could they could have done something else, gone elsewhere
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in Europe. It might have been hard, but to come
here and to try to do it here in this
hostile environment was the utmost form of agency of using
your agency that you can imagine. That's what you've done today. Remember,
you all came from different walks of life. Most of
you were not in engage politically until very late in
life the Tea Party movement or maybe afterwards. Most of
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you as young people had not been that engage in politics.
You just weren't that interested. This is today the reason
we had this victory. Remember time and again we talk
about engaging the low propensity, low information voters. Doesn't mean
the low information voters don't have lower IQs. It's not
about education, it's not about smarts. It's just a lot
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of people just not interested in politics. They don't see
they see the disconnect between politics and their own lives.
This is why, you know, up until this recent election,
so few Christians actually voted the percentage of Christians and
traditional Catholics because people just think Hey, I've got my religion.
I've got my Lord and Savior of Jesus Christ. I
don't need politics. One of the connections we try to
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make and using your agency, is that culture and society
and even your religious beliefs in politics. The thing that
kind of makes the Republic go forward. An extra could
be Lincoln. If you just walk away, that's what the
that's what the atheists, that's what the demons want.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
They want you just to throw on the tower. They
want you to walk away.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
Its heroic is the story of the American Republic and
particularly the foundation. And think about what happened from the
time they came in with the early sixteen hundreds, right
was at sixteen oh three, and then Jamestown and the
First Thanksgiving and all that to really the founding of
the Republic, the Revolutionary period and the Revolutionary War, the
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Great Fight for the Constitution, the founding of the nation.
Everything was going to the founding nation. The nation could
have collapsed at any time. There was no guarantee this
would ever come together. The British were relentless. They didn't
want to give up. This is you know, it kind
of broke George the Third he wasn't tightly wrapped to
begin with, but losing America even at the same time
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they gained control of India. He never got over it
because of the vastness of the resource, the vast of
the potentiality of the United States, of the colonies, knowing
what they had in Canada, known they were to control
all of North America. But in the story of agency,
nothing I think will compare are very little will compare
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to what you, this audience has done over the last
several years. This is a major hinge of American history.
This is why I say time and again that President
Trumpet's General Washington at the founding of the Republic, fighting
the fighting the revolution, winning the revolution after eight years,
holding the continental army together, holding the militias together, then
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against long incredible odds, particularly against the Royal Navy in
the British Army, then coming back in being the rock
upon which the country was founded with the Constitution, really
sharing the Constitution Convention which have never been taken seriously
unless Washington was a major part of it. Not that
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he was any deep thinker about issues of the Constitution.
But there you had Madison, you had Hamilton, you had others,
and then to hold the country together and most importantly
to walk away, to walk away after eight years.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
They kind of set that as a tradition. Of course,
the Radical Democrats went around that with FDR with they
had four terms. Think of that for a second, full
four terms.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
You talk about autocratic breakthrough, Rachel Maddow four terms?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Never mentioned that, do they? Oh, this is a time
of ward now.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I think I think would have been just fine with
other leadership, although his leadership is very important.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That was an autocratic breakthrough.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
But your accomplishments, your achievements in a collective fight over
the next over the last four years, will be talked
about forever now, the whole future that's before us. So
as we give thanks and we thank God, and we
praise God today for our deliverance, and we thank them
for everything, thank Him for everything that has happened in
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this country to turn it around, and the return of
President of Trump and the return of the forces of light. Remember,
and I'm not trying to be a downer here, but
it's I think it informs and should inform your day
of celebration that this fight continues and it's a continual fight.
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The reason we've been successful to day. The reason that
you have made American history over the last years but
really came to its apex at least for now on
November fifth, is you understood that this is a process,
and that this fight is a process and to save
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your country as a process, and you will be part
of that, and you will be a opponent piece of that,
and that if you don't quit, and if you just
stay the course and hold the line.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That victory is achievable. Give thanks today that you're part
of that.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
Give thanks to God that you're born in this time
and place, and that God, in his wisdom has seen
fit to put you at the tip of the spear
of this fight, because that's where you are. It's Thanksgiving
Day in twenty twenty four, and this is our Thanksgiving special.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going
to return.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
We're going to leave you with Nicole m'grady modern day
Holy war. Another anthem of the MAGA movement, short commercial
break back in a moment.
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Taken mind.
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See and always leave. The doesn't mean to.
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Win is on the Molly O.
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Rod Homan to so whoa to my holy sounds blessing
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didn't know more.
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The season, not nighty.
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Count lesson see services.
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Which means it couldn't be too war room.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Bab Thank you, Welcome back. It's our Thanksgiving Day special.
We know you're either at home getting ready for your
Thanksgiving Day feast or you're traveling somewhere to join family
or friends for your Thanksgiving Day feast. You know this
is the Is this the year the first year that
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we can actually talk about politics at the table? I
know we've wanted to do it and have done.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
It for years and years and years.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Uh, there's maybe some people coming to your thanks there
may be some people coming to your Thanksgiving Day that
are absolutely still in the mumble tank.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's okay, there's worse things in the world than that.
Make sure you nurture them.
Speaker 9 (41:47):
Maybe you give Maybe if they come and you know
dinner's a couple hours away, you can let them lay
in our sofa with a Mike pillow.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Maybe they curl up.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
With the Mike pillow body pillow. Feel better, they feel
they feel comer. You seal the stuff of the State Department.
They got to have sessions of people are distraught. Hey,
the reason they're distraught folks, is that you became part
of a movement, and particularly coming around this show where
he gave you hard truths every day.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And I understand the show's not entertainment. This shows a
lot of work. We demand a lot of work out
of you, folks to keep up. And you volunteered and
you made the difference.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
Was the precinct strategy taking over state parties, volunteering to
get at the mass of get out to vote, the
mass mobilization, or becoming election integrity officials. All of you
folks pitched in and it didn't take you write in checks.
What it took was commit your spirit and your soul
to this endeavor, and you did. What happened on the
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other side, they were lied to constantly. They were lied
to by MSNBC. They were just lied to, lied to,
lied to. They thought they were going in.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
They had no earth the idea.
Speaker 9 (42:53):
They thought we were the anti democratic forces. They thought
that we were the fascions, that garbage, all of it deplorables.
Remember that there was no chance the American people would
stand up, particularly people that are black and brown, that
African American men, working class men, or Hispanic men and women, families.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Would say no.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
In one case, maybe not vote for Kamala Harrison. The
other hey just actively vote for Trump. They weren't prepared
for that. Why they were lied to for years and
years and years. That's the trauma they're getting over. We're
going to do some different things in the show today.
I've got a clip. This was a film that was
not particularly a huge hit because it is a problematic film,
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but it's got some amazing pieces in it. I want
to show what the kind of scale of what the
settlers this is about Jamestown starring Colin Ferrell.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
The book of the film The New World from I
don't know ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Like I said, it wasn't a huge hit, but it's
a very powerful film if you watch it, particularly given
the fact of the continent in which they came and
how they had. It was hard scrabble and a lot
of these people had been what I say, sons of
the cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
They have been.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
They were a fortune. Uh they were seeking gold and
uh in the Fountain of Youth. They weren't really there
to do far meing types of things you had to
do to succeed. We're gonna play a clip from the
New World that will take us out. I'll be back
at the.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Top of the hour. Let's go ahead and play the
clip from The New World.
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M O Comecome.
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The Sun.
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In the Moon as well.
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It shows you how the sun chase the Night's anybody
around the world.
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Up must A.
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Don't know, don't know what. I look at the scully
now from England, England Land to the east, I don't
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know which can.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Leave.
Speaker 13 (48:12):
There won't be any leaving until the spring. The ones
won't be back to then.
Speaker 14 (48:17):
Quiet.
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We've come to the time in the season when family
and friends together near to offer a prayer of Thanksgiving.
I'd like to talk to you tonight about a great lady.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And she was just that, a very great lady and
a celebrity, which is something else, of course, a toast
of society. On top of that, she was a suffragette,
a sort of great grandmother of woman's lib and one
of the finest singers in this country. Her name was
Miss Julia Ward. Howe here she is in the happy
autumn of her brilliant life. Now, Miss Julia was born
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before photography was invented, and though there were cameras, by
the time, Miss Julia had grown up to be beautiful,
and she was, you know, very beautiful. If there is
a photo made of her back in her youthful days
as a breaker of hearts, I haven't been able to
find it. Never mind, after all this time, we still
remember her with so much affection because of some words
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she wrote for a song. I don't think there's any
argument that it's the greatest song ever to come out
of America, and hers of the greatest lyrics. The music
started well ahead of the It started in church and
then moved out into the battlefield. It began as a
hymn and grew to be the most heart quickening marching
song in all history, it's quite a story. Before the
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Civil War, there was an old man named Brown who
tried to start a civil war all on his own,
an angry old man who reckoned it wasn't enough just
to say that slavery was wrong. Something had to be
done about it. Slaves had to be set free. So
he and his sons and a few other people picked
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up their guns and tried to do just That didn't work,
of course, nobody was freed. Old mister Brown was caught
and tried for treason and hanged. He was either a
martyred hero or a bloodthirsty villain, depending on your viewpoint.
It's an argument that's still going on. You can dispose
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of me, he said, standing on the scaffold. You can
dispose of me very easily. This other matter has not
been disposed of, this negro question, I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The end of that.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's not yet well. They buried it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Not so long afterwards.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That crazy private battle of his broke out so publicly
that it all but broke our nation in two, very
nearly destroyed us. Early on in that terrible civil war
of ours, a few soldiers picked up that half forgotten
hymn tune and improvised some words, and pretty soon an
army was marching to it. Maybe what old Brown had
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done in life was unlawful, but the spirit moving him
was freedom, a spirit in our land we like to think,
can never die. That's the sense of what the soldiers
were singing. John Brown's body lies a moldering in the grave,
but his soul goes marching on, carried the whole Union
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army into battle.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, Miss Howe was.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The lady who made it the battle hymn of the Republic,
the whole Republic, her nation, as Miss Howe's great admirer,
mister Lincoln so greatly put it, dedicated to the proposition
that all men are created equal. Her song was for
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all of us to sing, and all of us to
live by her. She'd had a sleepless night. This happened
in Washington, the Old Willard Hotel, and somehow, just before dawn,
those words all came to her all at once, as
though some other hand had written.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Them and passed them on to her.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So Miss Julia Howe got up out of her hotel
good and found, as she said later, an old stub
of a pen, And as daybreak lightened over a sleeping city,
sat down at the window, and got it all written
out before the sun had reached the paper. Those words
of hers still helped to bind and told us a
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song not for half a nation to march to, but
for a whole people to stand up and sing together.
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord. He is trampling out the vintage where the
grapes of ras are stored. He hath loose the faithful
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lightning of his terrible swift sword.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
His truth his marching on in the beauty of the lilies.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Christ was born across the sea with a glory in
his bosom that transfigures you and me. As he died
to make men holy, let us die to make men free.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
My God, he's marching on.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
H How.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord. He is trampling off the vintage where the
grapes of raphar stored.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He has losed the faithful lightning of.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
His terrible swift sword. His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Glory, Glory, Lord, Glory, Lord, Glorial.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
His tu is marching on.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred
circling camps, they have builded him and alter in the
evening dews and damps.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
I have read his righteous sentence by the.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Dim and flaring lamps. His truth is marching.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
A gory glory, Halleio, glorori cororialia, his.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
True, his marching on.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I have read fiery gospel written burnished rows of steel.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
As you deal with my.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Condemmer soul, with you, my grace shall deal that the
hero born woman crush the.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Serpent with his heir. His truth his marching on.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Glorial, Goryoryala, Gloryala.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
His truth is marching on.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
He has sounded forth the trumpet that.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Shall never all is regally sifting out the handsome man
before his judgment.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Seat, or be swift my soul to answer.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Or be jubilant my feet. His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Glory, glorialry, glory had.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
In the beauty of the release.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
Christ was born across the sea with a glory in his.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Bosom that transfigures with me. As he died to make
men holy, let us die of magmentary.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
His truth is marching on.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Glory, Gloria, Gloryoria, glory, gloria.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
His true, his marching on.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Nine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of
the Lord.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
He is trampling off the vengeance where the crimson Rath
stared he had loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible
swift sword. His is loging, Oh, this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. There's not got a free shot on all
these networks lying about the people.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
Mega media?
Speaker 9 (09:36):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
War room.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Use your host, Stephen k Ban Okay, welcome.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
It's a Thursday, the twenty eighth of November in the
year of our Lord, twenty twenty fourth Thanksgiving Day, and
this our Thanksgiving Day special. I know if you're traveling
to go to family and friends for your gathering today,
spend a couple hours here with the worm on our
Thanksgiving A special right there you heard, of course, that
was Orson Wells staning up one of my favorite songs,
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the Battle Hymn of the Republic, and then Odetta.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
She just passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
She was actually going to sing battle him, I think
at President Obama's first inauguration, but I believe she passed
away right before then. It is one of my favorite,
if not my favorite rendition of the Battle Hymn of
the Battle Hymn of the Republic. So we're here today
to give thanks. This day is about gratitude. I'm gonna
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talk a lot about the founding of the country. We're
going to talk about some of the big moments in
the country's history, how it is related and has driven
us to this point at this point in time. This
is a very historical obviously a hinge of history for
us and for our movement and for this movement that's
saving the American Republic.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And we're going to talk about the Republic. We're going
to talk about some of the founding moments of it.
We're going to talk.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
About the first Thanksgiving. I'm a playback with Larry Sweikert
from last year. There's a couple of elements that absolutely
just I thought were absolutely absolutely incredible that we had
and they were so good.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Instead of trying to.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Recreate them, I said, let's us go back to the
file and cut and splice and we'll put it in fact.
The next segment is Larry Swikert in myself from last
year going through talking about I don't know election of
eighteen sixty four, of the founding of the country all that.
I'm also in the second hour, get an element up
here as you travel today for your Thanksgiving celebration to
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put in perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm going to talk.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
About the Roman Republic and the impact that the Roman
Republic had on the founders, and how we're in a
moment today kind of caught between a republican an empire,
and what our founders and the Framers are really really
thought about that and how much they look back at
the Roman Republic as a model for the United States
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of America.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It is really the.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
Lessons of the Roman Republic, the structure of the Roman Republic,
particularly the way they govern themselves through the Senate and
through the kind of the popular vote of the plebeians,
what they thought about the structure of society, and kind
of that constant tension between the populist and the aristocracy,
the populist and the elites kind of drove the Roman Republic.
How the Roman Republic fell, and how the Roman Empire,
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the rise of the Roman Empire and then the decline
of the empire all topics Today Thanksgiving Day special. As
you know, I really love these specials and particularly love
love being with you guys in these very special days. Okay,
we're gonna have Johnny Kahn, the Great Johnny Con. This
is one of my favorite songs. The reason was the
reason is is that John Con wrote this at the
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really the height of the Tea Party movement. It became
one of the anthems. Is not the anthem of the
Tea Party movement. It would always play when Andrew Breitbart spoke.
And Andrew Breitbart, the firebrand was the leader of the
Tea Party movement, was self organizing, but I would think
people most people say.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was the leader of that movement.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Very honored to know him, and I love this song
not just for the nostalgia and the memories, but how
much it means, I think, and how much it talks.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
About the soul of America.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
Well, we're talking about today in gratitude, in an appreciation,
on a Thanksgiving Day in the historic year of twenty
twenty four. We're in Levia with Johnny conn American Heart.
When we return, we're going to talk. I have the
historian Schweikert with me and we'll go through and talk
about Thanksgiving Day in American history.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Be back in the warm in just a moment.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
We don't have the same and I won't be made
to help feel a shamed Then I'm American maiden.
Speaker 11 (14:15):
I got American farm, I got American faith, an America.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
That's harm Go all raise flag.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Sack, God starts in by the pull in love her.
Then I won't the ball the jacks.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They say, then we need changing.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
This's if all the faund and father see the getty.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
Welcome back to our Thanksgiving Day special. It's Thursday, twenty
three November of the year of Earl twenty twenty three.
You know, we call Hank Williams the hill Billy Shakespeare,
but I think Johnny Cash, what is the hill billy Marlow?
Pretty close just magnificent Thanksgiving Day. We're playing that music
in and out of today. Really want to thank the
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team in Denver that's always here to help us with
these specials. Of course our crack team, production team of
the warm and always honor to have Larry Schwikert on.
I want to stick with with Lincoln. And here's why
we're starting this shair a little differently. Instead of going
back to the first Thanksgiving of when it was of one,
really the official Thanksgiving Day started because it was a
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time of trial, and I mean intense trial. If you
go back to October, and we'll go back to Gettysburg
in a second, but if you look at twenty October
eighteen sixty four when the proclamation came out, there.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Was something between.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
That date Larry in the official first Thanksgiving, and that
was called the election of eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I know we talk about elections.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
Every election is the most important election in American history
right now and the one that were facing next year,
but the election of eighteen sixty four was at that time,
and I think all the way up to the current day,
maybe sixteen, maybe twenty four as batch was the most
important election in the history of the country because it
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was going to decide the history of the country. President Lincoln,
as you remember, Larry was so concerned about the direction
of the country, and particularly the political direction. He didn't
really run as a Republican the sec time. They ran
on a national unitych I think the Union Party that
he got rid of his Vice president, Hannibal Hamlin from
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Maine and replaced him really with a Democrat from eastern
Tennessee who I think is the only still one of
the few senators in the South, and that was Andrew Johnson,
as a unity ticket.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The reason he needed a unity.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
Ticket, President Lincoln was running, which a lot of people
don't realize, he was running against his field commander of
the first years of the Civil War, and that was McClellan.
And McClellan's basically pitch essentially was we got to make
a deal with the South. We have to make a
deal and either go in peace or we'll figure something out.
But there's been too much bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're not going to win this.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Of course, Atlanta fell on one September, but.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
In August, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Didn't President Lincoln draft this incredibly controversial memo that even
Sewart and others that are very close to him on
the team of rivals. Cabinet said whoa, because essentially the
memo said to the to the to the cabinet that hey.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We're in a great conflict. We've gone all in on this,
the nation's all in on this.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
But as it looks now, because Atlanta had not fallen,
as it looks now, we could very well lose this election.
But did they say words of effect something that if
we lose, then we this cabinets somehow have to bring
this war to a successful conclusion. And it left open
whether there would be a transfer of government in March
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of eighteen sixty five, which have been the day.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Is that the.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Context in which Lincoln wrote this proclamation to set up
the first Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12 (18:31):
Well, let's go back through this a little bit. In
July eighteen sixty three, the war had been going very
badly for the Union. They had won really in the east.
Now they'd had many victories in the West, but for
some reason, the West didn't count because it wasn't Lee's
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Army of Northern Virginia. It wasn't in the eyes of
all of the eastern newspaper, and so you needed a
victory in the war in the East to solidify things,
and they really didn't get one until Antietam, which was
it was a draw, but because Lee withdrew, historians generally
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ascribed that as a victory for the North. But then
you had all sorts of other defeats and some horrible
things like Fredericksburg, and so the war was still going
very very badly for the North until Gettysburg. And in
a four day period the Union won the Battle of
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Gettysburg and the very very long ongoing siege of Vicksburg
by Ulysses Grant finally came to an end and Vicksburg surrendered,
all within a four day period.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And you would have thought, okay, war is over.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
Well it wasn't. And by mid eighteen sixty four it
was dragging on, and while the Union had had other victories,
it hadn't yet gotten that knockout victory that they well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Hang on, hang on hand.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Even I don't want to tell all they to understand
this about the tragedy of the country. The overland they brought,
they fired, everybody brought, uh brought Grant and Sherman, the
entire staff of the West to east of the White House,
and they said, we're going to go to Richmond if
it takes, however long it takes. The casually rates the
overland campaign, but by the midsummer of eighteen sixty four,
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you've had more bloodshed than ever. I mean, these campaigns
are just wars of attrition, complete just hit them South,
hit this out. They're backing up to Richmond. But the
casualty rates now, people like Seward and others are going.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You know this thing is people associate this with Gazer.
This is out of control.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
The blood here is just too much and it's not
going to stop because the Confederacy doesn't look like they're
ever going to surrender. I mean, the tragedy of the
nation is actually getting deeper and deeper and drenched in blood.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Well, and Grant was highly opposed to these kinds of campaigns.
He had agreed. His own soldiers basically convinced him to
launch an attack at Vicksburg, which he didn't want to do.
He just wanted to starve him out. But his own
soldiers lobbied him so hard he went against his own
(21:28):
better judgment and launched one large scale attack. And then
his own soldiers said, you know this digging digging isn't
quite so bad as we thought. Let's keep digging for
a while. So when he comes east, he really doesn't
want to have to engage in a lot of these
frontal attacks. And he keeps moving around to Lee's right,
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moving around to his right, moving around to his right,
but Lee kept blocking him off, and once or twice
Grant thinks, maybe we have a chance, as all of
the generals on the Western Front thought in World War One,
maybe we have a chance for a breakthrough to end
this once and for all. And of course you end
up with these horrific casualties at Cold Harbor and the
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Battle of the Crater, and Grant final and says, no,
we're not going to end this by head on attacked.
We've got to keep moving around until Lee stretch so
thin he can't fight. But the key to all that
is that's a long process. And the politicians in Washington
were getting extremely concerned that the war was never going
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to end, that we weren't going to be able to
Lee would escape again to the West, and this would
go on for years and years. So Lincoln was resigned
to the fact, as you mentioned earlier, that he wasn't
even going to be the Republican nominee that year. I've
just got to go a different route. He fires Hamlin,
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he brings in a Democrat who was not like some
moderate Democrat. Andrew Johnson was a pretty radical, hard line Democrat,
but he was still in the Union, one of the
few Democrat senators who didn't leave. And Lincoln's opponent, as
you mentioned, was a very successful general which up before
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Gettysburg had given us our only major victory in the East,
McClellan the Napoleon of the West. And so Lincoln is
pretty resigned by October despite the Atlanta falling that he's
probably not going to win re election. Now, your viewers
(23:32):
need to understand Lincoln is not the most optimistic of
guys many times, because he personally was a chronic depressive.
Historians don't know yet medically how to term him, but
he was such a depressive that when his first love,
Ann Rutledge left him high and dry, he literally vanished
(23:54):
for almost a month. Nobody could find him, and they
thought he killed himself. Made several allusions to the fact,
don't leave me alone with a pen knife, I might
kill myself. So you can imagine his mental state in
October of eighteen sixty four, when the Confederates still haven't surrendered.
I don't think us A mobile bay had come through yet.
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And Sheridan was coming through the Shenandoah. I don't know
if he'd reported back in yet that he'd finished off
the Shenandoah Valley. It was those three things, though, Atlanta, Mobile,
Shenandoah Valley, that basically ensured the war couldn't go on
much longer. But yeah, Lincoln was prepared to say we've lost.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was his depressed nature?
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Was the nature of the overwhelming nature of the conflict,
which you already said. Seeing the horrors of Ghettysburg when
he went up there to give the address wing he
saw the horrors of Gettysburg made him a Christian?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
Was it?
Speaker 9 (24:56):
The also the incredible sacrifice of the spring and early
summer of eighteen sixty four and the overland campaign to Richmond.
It's Spotsylvania, the wilderness, Cold Harbor, remember Cold Harbor, where
they didn't even let the New York Times and people
report the casualties. They thought the country would overthrow Lincoln
(25:17):
if they did. It was so horrific. I think seventeen
thousand men in like twenty minutes or some Is it
that which forced him? Is that what said, we got
to give thanks to God here. We have to reach
out to God to make sure they were right with him,
and the nation has to show its thanks or open
up its heart to God.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
I think what happened was after Gettysburg Lincoln's view that
both sides are praying to God, both sides want God's support.
We need to be on God's side. And I think
Gettysburg was the first time that Lincoln finally thought God's
on our side. God's on our side, then he's real.
God's reel, then his words real. And if his words real,
(25:59):
Jesus is and I need to take action. I think
that you can't prove it, but I think that's the
thought process he went through. You know you mentioned Cold Harbor.
The soldiers were pinning their names and addresses to their
uniforms so their bodies could be shipped back to the
right place.
Speaker 13 (26:18):
That's how.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But let's take a commercial break. The last wave Cold
Harbor in June eighteen sixty four was so bad. The
last wave.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
When they got the officers got to the top of
the trenches, the milistamen said, we're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
This is a slaughter pen. That's the tragedy of the
Civil War.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
We're going to take a short break the connection between
our greatest conflict and giving thanks to God next in
the world.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
Do you When I count my blestens, I'm thinking the
Lord he made you. I'm grateful for the We've come
(27:10):
to the time in the season when family and friendsgether
here to offer a prayer of thanksgiving or blessings we've
known through the year to join hands and thank the Creator.
(27:33):
Now when Thanksgiving is due. This year, when I count
my blessings, I'm thinking the Lord he made you. This year,
when I count my blessings, I'm thinking the Lord he
(27:54):
made you. I'm greatful for the laughter of children, the
sun and the wind and the rain, the color of
blue in your sweet eyes, the side of a high
(28:15):
ball and string, the moon rise over a prairie, and
all love that you've made new. And this year when
I count my blessing, thinking the Lord he made you.
(28:37):
This year, when I count my blessings, I'm thinking the
Lord he made you. And when the time comes to
be good, it won't be in sorrow and tears. I'll
(29:01):
kiss you goodbye, Hanna goal Away. Grateful for all of
the years I think for all that you gave me,
for teaching me what love can do. And Thanksgiving Day
(29:21):
for the rest of my life, I'm thinking the Lord
he made you. Thanksgiving Day for the rest of my life,
I'm thinking the Lord he made you.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Wow, you got a debt or debta on the battle
him of the Republic, and then you got Johnny Cash
with a Thanksgiving song?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is that a beautiful song? And is that right from
the American song Book? What a voice? What a life?
Just hear the soul of a market. You know, we play.
We play Billy String's cover on.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
When a Man Comes Around, which to me is one
of my all time favorite songs. But the Johnny Cash
version is just the original version of it, just absolutely stunning.
Thank you for being here on Thanksgiving one at the Posse.
We have so much to be grateful for, so much gratitude,
divine providence, God in Heaven has guided us and worked
(30:34):
through each and every one of you. I think, to me,
that's the biggest thing to be grateful for is that
we found each other. We kind of came together self
organized over the last couple of years, to support President
Trump really in his second victory, because that's what it was,
the second victory, and now his third victory, because now
it's the third victory, second term, third victory. I do
(30:57):
say this, and Divine Providence, in its wisdom, we had
to have that second victory stolen. So much became evident,
So much became evident in the last four years.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Of how far.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
The country had gone, how radical these elites were, and
how our civilization, the Judeo Christian West because of these
modernity and these modernists and these anti tradition and people
that are anti tradition, the pro system, anti tradition folks,
(31:36):
how they've created a toxic culture and anti civilization they've taken.
I think the flower of mankind's all the civilizations was
the Judeo Christian West, and it still is. It's done
more to drive human endeavor and human knowledge and human
achievement than any civilization of all the other great civilizations
(31:57):
the planet has had and people have had of that,
there's no doubt. That's why the American experience, that's where
there were the New Jerusalem. We're celebrating that today. What
this celebration is is that whether it's the Puritans in
New England or kind of the cavaliers down in Jamestown.
They both realize pretty quickly that as they came ashore
(32:20):
and tried to carve out life in just a hostile
environment of a place with immense bounty, but you had
to get up and do it every second of every day.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
This was not England. They had to give.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Thanks to God, the divine providence that they were saved.
And think of what they created out of that small
foothold they had on the James River down in my
home state, beloved Commonwealth of Virginia, and what they had
on the coast right there on the rocky hard coast.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Of New England in Plymouth.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
It's almost it's a story that's absolutely, you know, inconceivable
in human history. That's why it's divinely inspired. That's why
we are the new Jerusalem.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And we have to.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Recognize that and embrace that and understand it that the
duty that comes with it, the duty to preserve it
and to pass it on.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
This is where you come in.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
The Puritans and the Pilgrims and Cape Cod and New England,
the cavaliers and the Virginia Company down in Jamestown. It
was their agency. There was no reason, even the dissenters
on the religious side, they could have stayed in Holland
they could they could have done something else, gone elsewhere
(33:42):
in Europe. It might have been hard, but to come
here and to try to do it here in this
hostile environment was the utmost form of agency of using
your agency that you can imagine. That's what you've done today. Remember,
you all came from different walks of life. Most of
you were not in engage politically until very late in
life the Tea Party movement or maybe afterwards. Most of
(34:05):
you as young people had not been that engage in politics.
You just weren't that interested. This is today the reason
we had this victory. Remember time and again we talk
about engaging the low propensity, low information voters. Doesn't mean
the low information voters don't have lower IQs. It's not
about education, it's not about smarts. It's just a lot
(34:26):
of people just not interested in politics. They don't see
they see the disconnect between politics and their own lives.
This is why, you know, up until this recent election,
so few Christians actually voted the percentage of Christians and
traditional Catholics because people just think Hey, I've got my religion.
I've got my Lord and Savior of Jesus Christ. I
don't need politics. One of the connections we try to
(34:48):
make and using your agency, is that culture and society
and even your religious beliefs in politics. The thing that
kind of makes the Republic go forward. An extra could
be Lincoln. If you just walk away, that's what the
that's what the atheists, that's what the demons want.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
They want you just to throw on the tower. They
want you to walk away.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
Its heroic is the story of the American Republic and
particularly the foundation. And think about what happened from the
time they came in with the early sixteen hundreds, right
was at sixteen oh three, and then Jamestown and the
First Thanksgiving and all that to really the founding of
the Republic, the Revolutionary period and the Revolutionary War, the
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Great Fight for the Constitution, the founding of the nation.
Everything was going to the founding nation. The nation could
have collapsed at any time. There was no guarantee this
would ever come together. The British were relentless. They didn't
want to give up. This is you know, it kind
of broke George the Third he wasn't tightly wrapped to
begin with, but losing America even at the same time
(35:54):
they gained control of India. He never got over it
because of the vastness of the resource, the vast of
the potentiality of the United States, of the colonies, knowing
what they had in Canada, known they were to control
all of North America. But in the story of agency,
nothing I think will compare are very little will compare
(36:18):
to what you, this audience has done over the last
several years. This is a major hinge of American history.
This is why I say time and again that President
Trumpet's General Washington at the founding of the Republic, fighting
the fighting the revolution, winning the revolution after eight years,
holding the continental army together, holding the militias together, then
(36:42):
against long incredible odds, particularly against the Royal Navy in
the British Army, then coming back in being the rock
upon which the country was founded with the Constitution, really
sharing the Constitution Convention which have never been taken seriously
unless Washington was a major part of it. Not that
(37:04):
he was any deep thinker about issues of the Constitution.
But there you had Madison, you had Hamilton, you had others,
and then to hold the country together and most importantly
to walk away, to walk away after eight years.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
They kind of set that as a tradition. Of course,
the Radical Democrats went around that with FDR with they
had four terms. Think of that for a second, full
four terms.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
You talk about autocratic breakthrough, Rachel Maddow four terms?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Never mentioned that, do they? Oh, this is a time
of ward now.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I think I think would have been just fine with
other leadership, although his leadership is very important.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That was an autocratic breakthrough.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
But your accomplishments, your achievements in a collective fight over
the next over the last four years, will be talked
about forever now, the whole future that's before us. So
as we give thanks and we thank God, and we
praise God today for our deliverance, and we thank them
for everything, thank Him for everything that has happened in
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this country to turn it around, and the return of
President of Trump and the return of the forces of light. Remember,
and I'm not trying to be a downer here, but
it's I think it informs and should inform your day
of celebration that this fight continues and it's a continual fight.
(38:31):
The reason we've been successful to day. The reason that
you have made American history over the last years but
really came to its apex at least for now on
November fifth, is you understood that this is a process,
and that this fight is a process and to save
(38:53):
your country as a process, and you will be part
of that, and you will be a opponent piece of that,
and that if you don't quit, and if you just
stay the course and hold the line.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That victory is achievable. Give thanks today that you're part
of that.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
Give thanks to God that you're born in this time
and place, and that God, in his wisdom has seen
fit to put you at the tip of the spear
of this fight, because that's where you are. It's Thanksgiving
Day in twenty twenty four, and this is our Thanksgiving special.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going
to return.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
We're going to leave you with Nicole m'grady modern day
Holy war. Another anthem of the MAGA movement, short commercial
break back in a moment.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
Taken mind.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
See and always leave. The doesn't mean to.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Win is on the Molly O.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Rod Homan to so whoa to my holy sounds blessing
(40:35):
didn't know more.
Speaker 10 (40:39):
The season, not nighty.
Speaker 11 (40:50):
Count lesson see services.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
Which means it couldn't be too war room.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Bab Thank you, Welcome back. It's our Thanksgiving Day special.
We know you're either at home getting ready for your
Thanksgiving Day feast or you're traveling somewhere to join family
or friends for your Thanksgiving Day feast. You know this
is the Is this the year the first year that
(41:24):
we can actually talk about politics at the table? I
know we've wanted to do it and have done.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
It for years and years and years.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Uh, there's maybe some people coming to your thanks there
may be some people coming to your Thanksgiving Day that
are absolutely still in the mumble tank.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's okay, there's worse things in the world than that.
Make sure you nurture them.
Speaker 9 (41:47):
Maybe you give Maybe if they come and you know
dinner's a couple hours away, you can let them lay
in our sofa with a Mike pillow.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Maybe they curl up.
Speaker 9 (41:55):
With the Mike pillow body pillow. Feel better, they feel
they feel comer. You seal the stuff of the State Department.
They got to have sessions of people are distraught. Hey,
the reason they're distraught folks, is that you became part
of a movement, and particularly coming around this show where
he gave you hard truths every day.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
And I understand the show's not entertainment. This shows a
lot of work. We demand a lot of work out
of you, folks to keep up. And you volunteered and
you made the difference.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
Was the precinct strategy taking over state parties, volunteering to
get at the mass of get out to vote, the
mass mobilization, or becoming election integrity officials. All of you
folks pitched in and it didn't take you write in checks.
What it took was commit your spirit and your soul
to this endeavor, and you did. What happened on the
(42:45):
other side, they were lied to constantly. They were lied
to by MSNBC. They were just lied to, lied to,
lied to. They thought they were going in.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
They had no earth the idea.
Speaker 9 (42:53):
They thought we were the anti democratic forces. They thought
that we were the fascions, that garbage, all of it deplorables.
Remember that there was no chance the American people would
stand up, particularly people that are black and brown, that
African American men, working class men, or Hispanic men and women, families.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Would say no.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
In one case, maybe not vote for Kamala Harrison. The
other hey just actively vote for Trump. They weren't prepared
for that. Why they were lied to for years and
years and years. That's the trauma they're getting over. We're
going to do some different things in the show today.
I've got a clip. This was a film that was
not particularly a huge hit because it is a problematic film,
(43:32):
but it's got some amazing pieces in it. I want
to show what the kind of scale of what the
settlers this is about Jamestown starring Colin Ferrell.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
The book of the film The New World from I
don't know ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Like I said, it wasn't a huge hit, but it's
a very powerful film if you watch it, particularly given
the fact of the continent in which they came and
how they had. It was hard scrabble and a lot
of these people had been what I say, sons of
the cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
They have been.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
They were a fortune. Uh they were seeking gold and
uh in the Fountain of Youth. They weren't really there
to do far meing types of things you had to
do to succeed. We're gonna play a clip from the
New World that will take us out. I'll be back
at the.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Top of the hour. Let's go ahead and play the
clip from The New World.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
M O Comecome.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
The Sun.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
In the Moon as well.
Speaker 13 (45:45):
It shows you how the sun chase the Night's anybody
around the world.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Up must A.
Speaker 13 (47:36):
Don't know, don't know what. I look at the scully
now from England, England Land to the east, I don't
(48:02):
know which can.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Leave.
Speaker 13 (48:12):
There won't be any leaving until the spring. The ones
won't be back to then.
Speaker 14 (48:17):
Quiet.
Speaker 12 (48:23):
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Speaker 13 (48:25):
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