THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 11TH, 2024 (EP. 4119)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

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AARON ZAR
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
There's not got a free shot.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I know you tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Warm use your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Bash.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's Wednesday, eleven December, year over Lord twenty twenty four.
Post is going to be up at a minute. I
think a lot going on. I want to also get
up and talk later about the new found populism of Focahontas.
She went to the to the treasure chests and dug
up something from years ago, because now they've got to
get populous, right, she had it years ago, didn't go
anywhere when she's running for president. First, you know, months

(01:13):
of the Body administration, they put up this huge tax. No,
we're going to tax the wealthy, on tax the hedge ones.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It went nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It didn't have a committee hearing why they're owned by the wealthy.
They're owned by the hedgehorn there. They're all Democrats, even
the guys came over with Trump. Some of them have
converted to Maga, are on their road to Damascus looking
for their Damascene moment. But a lot of them are
just wolves and sheep's clothing.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
They're just here because we won and they want to
make sure they ain't taxed. And they when they get
in the deconstructed administrative state, the regulations that apply to
them get off. Come on, folks, we're smart. Just because
we're populous doesn't mean we're stupid. Right, We understand exactly
what you're doing. And hey, if you know, you got
to have alliance in coalition. Sometimes people don't agree with

(02:02):
Sometimes you don't agree with anything that's up.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
The main thing is the enemy of my enemy. A
lot of that going on. We're gonna drill down and
and go back. Always put in the framework right now
of the three big lines of work, and I take
out the investigations and deconstruction ministries. Let's set that aside.
But the three big lines will work in front of us.
Is the kinetic part of the Third World War in

(02:27):
the raging land mass. The second is the is, the is,
the debt, the deficit, all of it. And he's getting
there trying to shackle President Trump right now on activity
is going up on Capitol Hill. And the ThReD is
the invasion of this southern border. Now, the American people
rendered a verdict on November fifth, and they said, and

(02:48):
President Trump said it perfectly, Christian Welker, it was immigration
in the border and groceries. Well, today I got bad
news for you, folks. Groceries back on fire. And I'm
gonna go back back to Oscar Blue Ramiraz and Ben
Berkwam in northern Mexico. And these criminals in charge of
the American government, the Biden regime is is full bore

(03:13):
on using this app where anywhere in the world they
can just apply, and then then they fly them up
here and now they're on the border in another invasion.
Another part of the invasion's coming, like we don't have
enough with ten to fifteen men came on their watch
and they're sitting there bitching them on every It's gonna cost.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You three hundred million dollars a year to do this.
What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Man, that's money. They don't complain about money anytime. E
suff's getting rid of folks out of the country. Shouldn't
be here here, should be here United States citizens and
maybe a couple I don't know, a couple of green cards.
I'm not super thrown about that program, but you got
to do that. You do that for someone and tourists
and students that are here studying where I disagree with

(03:54):
our beloved president. He wants to give them a I
don't know, a green card. We want attach an exit visa.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Send them home and let them make their countries great again.
This is the way we stop this mess in places
like randomly Central America, Sub Saharan Africa, Asia.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Let's train them up here, learn them up here.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Get the best the fruit of the Judeo Christian West
and the great universities. As soon as we make sure
we cut the money off all these radicals on the faculty,
Train them up, learn them up, send them back home,
let them work there to make their countries great again.
Once the nations of the Earth, nations start being great,

(04:36):
we collectively are going to be great together. That's what
nationalism is. Ben berkwam Oscar. Let me go to you, brother.
You've been on this. You had the cartels chasing you,
put your life on the line to report this story.
Did you ever believe in your life that Trump would
win a resounding victory on this very topic, on the

(04:58):
topic of the invasion of this country, as we said,
and we did the build the wall, every town of
border town, every state of border state. You got Eric
Adams indicted because he stood up to them about the
sanctuary city.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
You've got all this going on.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Blacks and Hispanics are flocking us. We went in the
rear Grand Valley, and here's what we're winning it on.
We're winning on the fact that we're going to send
these folks home and put in some sealed border and
put in some protections for folks called American citizens. Regardless
of your Hispanic or African American, or you have very
little money, you're an American citizen. And you're down there

(05:33):
and you're telling me that this app is still up,
and now they're loading people up and see they're so
sneaky and so criminal that they're still flooding these people
in here and they don't care they're going to destroy
these people's lives. Because these people's lives are going to
be destroyed, they're not staying, They're going home.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oscar Blue Ramirez.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Yes, sir, Two things happen to me right now as
we were talking. We're talking about cartels. As I was
doing interview right here in front of me, Akoyota came
in too, you know, try to talk to me and
he said, you know what, there's a large group that
is coming now. I said, which organization you're here from?
And he said, oh, I'm an owner of a hotel,
which I believe that he's not. He's already he said,

(06:14):
I already orchestrated and fixed six people, so I can
fix and I can pick up right here and take
them to the hotel.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
That was one of them.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
That I was like, oh my god, you know the
orchestrated black market that happens right here, and it's all
controlling this port of entry. And the other thing was
that there's a line right here that you can barely
see see, but I was playing to cross this line.
To do an interview, and a National Guard official from
Mexico came to me and he said, you cannot cross
that line. I said, I'm a Mexican citizen, and he said,
I don't care. Cannot cross that line and be recording

(06:44):
the migrants. So this is how sneaky the government it
is still, you know, under this globalist under these elitists,
under the United Nations, under these angos that they had before.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Everything controlled.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
Now the President Trump is going to come in, you know,
God bless his heart, hopefully will can you know, eradicate
all of this, you know, and try to take control
and bring you know, the sovereignty again to the to
the Mexican people as it is.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Uh, this I just want to I want to make
sure people understand this OSCAR from your perspective.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
This is highly organized.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
This is just not a self organizing random occurrence, sir.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
No, this is well orchestrated.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
See it is part of the global.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Compact on migration.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Their proxies, the angos and also the cartels. You know,
American people need to understand the cartails are not people
that they're wearing a revolver in a hat. They're really
you know, extremely talented, they're high technology, they have the increase,
you know, their income. With the Biden administration, they have
grown two times stronger in economy and territory and in
technology and artillery. So now they have more the power

(07:49):
to control the borders. This is one of the challenges,
a big challenge that the Trump administration that is going
to have. That is that is the reason why the
threat of a teriff that I was commentating to you
Steve consistently, it is extremely important. So you can hit
the government in their pockets and it could be a
trickle and a domino effect. So they can decrease the
massive flow fentanyl, decrease the massive flow of trafficking of
humans and trafficking and children, and find the three hundred

(08:11):
thousand children with these angels that they need to be
prosecuted and you know, and basically audit every single one
of them.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ben, give me your perspective and also where you guys
can go. This reporting from Exo City the other day,
the camps and now this has been unbelievable and I'm
telling you it's going to be exhibit one in the
trial of these people, the government officials that did this.
The NGAY I'm telling the njay of leaderships, don't think
Catholic charities and the Lutheran has got that Jewish group

(08:40):
down there. You people that are using this false front
of religion. It's disgusting and Catholic charities. Being a Catholic
is the worst. Okay, you guys are all this is
what you're doing is criminal. What you're doing is criminal.
You've been warned enough. And there ain't a blanket pardon,
blanket preemptive pardon on the faith to this earth that's

(09:01):
going to protect you. Let me be brutally frank about that.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You are.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You've initiated and exacerbated now an invasion of the country.
And it was bad enough when you stole the twenty
twenty election. The American people rendered their verdict on this
very topic. This wasn't marginal, this was central. Don't believe me. Yes,
look at President Trump or Kristen Welker. He said, this
is the issue. Because you're talking about day one, what

(09:27):
are you going to do well day one, I'm starting
mass deportations with President Trump said, you know why, because
I said, that's what I want on That's what I
want on that and groceries.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Eg is going to be here in a minute. Ben
your perspective.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
What you're saying, I tell you what you guys and
I get this is Burkwaman and Oscar and how great
they are.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
They teed me up.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
They're going to go down there, said this, saying, I go, guys,
I don't know, you know, su biding these guys. They've
been beaten. They got to be cleaning up the mess,
hiding their stuff. It's not gonna be much down there,
Good Lord in Heaven, what you guys have found has
shocked me me and I know it's even shocked you.
And this is the arrogance, because here's why, folks. They
don't think we're gonna do anything about it.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
They're calling our bluff right now. They're calling Trump's bluff
right now. They're calling Tom Homan and Steve Miller. They said, hey,
you talk a lot Homan on Fox. Miller, you got
a mouth, you run on time. Bannon, you're yelling and
screaming that microphone like a madman. Donald Trump goes up there, Hey,
we're gonna call your bluff. We're just little nngos getting money.
In the second collection from the Lutherans and the Catholics

(10:28):
and the Jews. Hey, we don't believe you. We don't
think you're tough enough to do it. That's what they're
working all night up in the White House. They're saying,
let's call, let's get let's get another couple of million
in here. Hey, Bannon, suck on that. You're such a
tough guy, Steve Miller. You talk tough, Homan, you talk tough.
Ben Berkwan, oscar Wal you've been running aund there for years,
causing trouble, exposing this.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're nothing.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You're a couple of messenger boys for the for the
for the far right. Ben berkwem your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
First off, this we've talked about it for the last
four years. This is the three legged stool, this operation
that you see right now, the three legged stool between
the NGOs, the United Nations, the politicians in America, and
the criminal organizations. It is so well orchestrated now, Steve,
it's hard to believe that it's really if we weren't
here at the moment that we got here this morning,

(11:20):
we wouldn't have seen it. And that's how that's how
how much money to me that what it shows is
the efficiency of the operation. How much money is going
into this thing. The other side of that is, you're
exactly right, Steve, this is setting up. This is strategic
so that when we take over, they're going to make
it very, very difficult. Every single one of the people
that's taken across that bridge today and has been taken

(11:41):
across through CBP one has a two year parole, and
so they're saying, well, these people are untouchable. On top
of that, now they're trying to give them blanket pardons.
This is setting up for the Antifa BLM and now
fifteen million illegals burning down our country, across America, and
the American people need to be ready for it. We
better strap on, get ready because that's what they want.

(12:03):
They want this fight, and you're absolutely right. They don't
think the American people, they don't think the MAGA base
is willing to have that fight. And I got news
for them. That fight is coming.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, you guys, hang on down there.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm gonna do some We're gonna go talk about inflation
here for a moment. But I hope the audiences are
repulsed by this as I am.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
This shows you, folks, Look, we won.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It was great we're bringing people together which celebrate we
had the day.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You got to get down in it. Man, these people
are arrogant.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
And here's why they're arrogant, because the Republican establishment for
so long has played patty cake with these folks. This
is the differentiating Trump. Trump's actually gonna do something. But
I gotta tell Miller and Holman, all the good folks
over there working in transition right now, MO on this,
and they're working like crazy. You know they're gonna give
a shock and all. They don't think it's going to happen.

(12:58):
They think the republic established are going to stop us.
Just telling you, give me some inside baseball here. Don't
want this comes as a shock. They think they're gonna
blunt it. They don't think anybody's going to deport it.
They don't think maybe a couple of criminals, right, but
they don't think anything else is going to come.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
We'll go to EJ after the break.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
MO.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Your thoughts, well, I think they have another thing coming.
And also you're going to talk big smack too.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, No, I think that the biggest smack we're sending smack,
the biggest smack talker in the history.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
We're sending money to Ukraine and giving money to NGOs
and all these organizations to fund the crossing of illegal
immigrants at our southern border. And we have homeless veterans
to bring it back to Army Navy.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
We have homeless.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Veterans that we can't even get put into housing or
treatment for PTSD, and we're sending money to everyone that
is not a US citizen. And I think that the
left and even the Republican establishment think that they're going
to stop us from getting money back to the American
citizens and back to people that actually deserve it. They

(14:04):
have another thing coming. President Trump cares about this country,
and it cares about our veterans. And that's what we're
going to fix and support the American people.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, ma'am. Hangover for a second. That's good. Hangover second.
We're gonna go to EG and Tony tomorrow. We get
some breaking news on inflation. Birch Gold dot com. You
want to hedge against the turbulence to come. You know't
thing's gonna be turbulence. Hey, take your number two parensil
out Ottoman Empire's rising. The Biden regime is shipping more

(14:33):
illegal alien evaders in here every second of every day
to make it harder for President Trump and the economy.
Inflation's not just here, it's roaring back. Go to Birch
Gold dot com right now. Don't take it from me.
Talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Philip Patrick and
the team is there Birch Gold dot com or take
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(14:55):
E j Antoni on the other side.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Is basically what we expected, and that should probably keep
the Fed on track. A three tenths rise in the
headline pushes the year over year headline number to two
point seven percent, and a three tens rise in the
core pushes year over year to three point three percent,
no change from the prior month. So basically what we're
looking at is status quo with inflation. The only issue

(15:22):
is is that status quo enough for the Fed to
go ahead with a rate cut. It doesn't seem like
there's anything in here that immediately suggests that the Fed
would have any problem with that. We'll have to check
the three digits and see if it's a strong three
tense or a week three tense. But I'm sure we're
probably getting less market reaction than maybe Lisa you anticipated.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Okay, EJ, and TONI joins us. EJ. Inflation's back or
never went away? Biden?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Are they doing anything going out the door to make
President Trump's time even harder?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, Steve, I think it's what they've been doing with
not only the spending, but all of the manipulations that
we've seen to try to artificially reduce inflation, to try
to artificially inflate the jobs numbers. All of these things
are coming home to roost. You know, the FED cutting
interest rates in the autumn. I mean that was effectively
election interference. Let's just call it what it is, and

(16:21):
it is setting us up for a resurgence of inflation
beyond what we've already seen. In other words, they're handing
President Trump a ticking time bomb at this point.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So what do you mean by that? Be specific? What
does this thing show and why is it a tickie?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I agree with you, but I want the audience to
understand three lines of work. The kinetic third World war
starting Eurasian land mass. Biden's going to as way to
suck us in more that we can extract ourselves and
let President Trump get to the negotiating table for peace
and the peace and prosperity.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Strategy he has for a second term.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
The prosperity part when I talk about the debt, the deficit,
the spending, all of it, doze, deconstruction, ministry, state getting
control of it, inflation. Why are you saying they're setting
traps that this is going to chop block President Trump
out of the gates, sir.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well Steve.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
What they've essentially done with government spending to artificially inflate
a lot of these economic indicators, all of that has
to be paid for eventually. It's very similar to a
family who racks up a ton of credit card debt
to try to sustain a very high standard of living
that they can't afford. And in the coming months after that,
they start getting their credit card bills and they can't

(17:39):
afford to pay them, and so they have not only
these massive costs of repayment, but on top of that,
they have massive finance charges. We're looking at over the
next year interest on the debt probably hitting one point
four trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's just the interest.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I'm not talking about paying down the debt. That's going
to be a huge drag on federal finances and on
the economy. More broadly, also, we have severe errors in
different kinds of statistics, like the jobs numbers, and as
we start to correct for those, we'll realize that, you know,
things that we've already talked about on the show, that
the jobs numbers have been nowhere near as rosie as

(18:18):
we've initially been led to believe. Come January's report, we'll
see a downward revision of over eight hundred thousand jobs.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
So and that's just.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
From one single report. Now getting back to the inflation numbers, though,
you know, unfortunately the Fed taking their foot off the
break and really getting back on the gas. While that
was an attempt to temporarily goose the economy again before
the election, the problem is that down the road six
to twelve months out, you're going to cause a more

(18:47):
more inflation within the economy as that money that they
threw in in September, October, November starts to really slosh
around and push prices up in the months to come.
So everything that they did right before the election again
is going to come home to roost in twenty twenty five.
So we're looking at a lot of inflationary pressure within

(19:08):
this economy. Now, hopefully the incoming President is going to
be able to counter a lot of that with his
domestic energy policies because that will increase production and that
will bring down prices not just for energy, but prices
throughout the economy. So that's very very good and hopefully
well we'll counter a lot of this damage that the
FED has done. But again, so much of what we're

(19:29):
seeing and what we're going to see I think in
the coming months is basically the Trump administration having to
pay for all of the reckless spending and other mismanagement
of the Bind administration for the last four years.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Remember the dead ceiling deal expires I think the second
or third of January.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Folks, we're heading into a firestorm. EJ. Where do they go?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
On your social media? And we don't know how long
we're going to have EJ with us, So we have
take advantage of EJ. And Tony why we have him?
We don't have Scott bessen aymore, Peter navarneymore, has we
get all all of our heavy hitters are leaving us.
We've got Jason Trennard and EJ. And who knows how
long we have those guys?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
EJ? Where they go?

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Best place to find me is on X the handle
there is at real EJ.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And Tony.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You're fantastic and what you did about the phony labor
numbers of just extraordinary people understand that's one of the
big reasons President Trump won.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Thank you, EJ. And Tony.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Look forward to having you on go to that social
media mo if Grace we can push that out. This
is why I keep talking about Birch Gold, Goldsman on
a hell of a run.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Actually, technically Gold shouldn't be on that kind of run,
be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's always been a hedges and not supposed to be
some of the skyrockets, but for a while, so the
last couple of years it has. But we give you
the macroeconomics. You can get the microeconomist Birch Gold dot
com slash Bannon. We've got I think the seventh or
eighth installment all three at the end of the dollar
Empire coming out shortly. That would be modern modern monetary theory,

(20:59):
the idea that broke the world, a radical idea, not
tested but test kind of the beta site. Test was
on the American people ain't working out so well.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
We'll get it all to Birch Gold dot com slash
ban and make sure you check it out today, Aaron
Zar now more than ever McCabe.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So Paul Sperry of The New York Post put back
up this thing about McCabe and the FBI eavesdropping on cash,
looking at it, listening to his phone, all of it,
looking at his text messages, all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Why why that was a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But this is one of the criminal activities of McCabe
and combing that crowd. Your your company specializes in saying
hey today, government actors, non government actors, the Chinese Communist Party,
folks in, folks in Eastern Europe, guys in Ukraine or Russia,
Central Asia, the cartel guys in extra anybody can be listening, reading,

(21:58):
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
You've got a solution. What is it, sir?

Speaker 10 (22:01):
And we got a great solution, and you have Phone
hacking is rising alarmingly and hackers are really using these
increasing malicious techniques to steal all our private information. It's
happening online, and it's happening in proximity to your phone,
your laptop. And there's really hundreds of tools available that
compromise privacy really easy. That for like the four key

(22:23):
areas to think about with your phone is you're most
likely have unauthorized intrusion. Hackers exploit this, they gather your
phone's data and with AI able to process that, we're
all really targets. We have constant spine seven and ten.
Mobile frauds originate on smartphones and one in thirty six
phones have malicious apps and malware downloaded on them. So

(22:47):
that is the listeners, that is the war room posse.
Many of our phones have it, so that gives access
to camera, contacts, messages, monitoring all activity from phone calls
and messages on your phone. And not even to mentioned
the thousands of financial and stolen identities that happened daily.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I mean, for one.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
Example, and this is a few years old as well,
but in twenty twenty, the FBI received more than twenty
two thousand internet crime complaints a day and they're not
able to do anything about it. So what that tells
me is that it's really in our hands to do
something about it. And that means me, that means my
company's team, that means everyone listening. And so how do

(23:26):
we shut these threats down? How do we live in
this world?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
We really have to.

Speaker 10 (23:31):
Take these measures in our own hand, and I think
it starts with education, an adoption of privacy first technology
like Silent. We make signal blocking Faraday black bags that
block cellular Wi Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, RFID, and NFC, so
you could have instinct control over how and when you
connect to the grid. It's just crazy and Silent is

(23:53):
not anti tech, but we're very aware that there's evil tech,
there's tech overreach by corporations and government, and it's just
not fair. So we feel that Silent Faara day bags
are a beautiful solution in conjunction with other encrypted communication
VPNs and other services that are readily available products that

(24:17):
really enhance and we puting security first, and.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
We agree with you. We want to go to the website.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
What's best for our audiences, go someplace and get all
the information because these are our folks.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
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Speaker 5 (27:00):
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Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, Congressman Chip Roy joins us Congressman. We got all
kinds of games being played on Capitol Hill. I don't
understand them. We got a NDAA that's going to lock
us in at a top line number of almost nine
hundred billion dollars, really trading if you round up, you've
got the c RM here and all kinds of things.
But the cr are supposed to be kicked in the
next year. We don't like short term sears, but this

(27:27):
is let President Trump and russ Vode get their hands
around the budget. And last but not Lee, she got
this reconciliation which is so complicated. But now I understand
President Trump wants to focus on the border and getting
the stuff on the border. And now understand that, you know,
Jason Smith or wherever the tax guys are saying, no,
we got to do taxes thing.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
And normally when people say that, they want to cram
everything into it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Normally my mind says, they're trying to hide stuff and
they make it too complicated. So let's start with the
NDAA if we could. I just think you're taking I
think what's happening is you're taking the ability of the
DOGE guys, particularly Ianon Mussevivik, to work with, to work
with Payeleta and vote in the team over O and

(28:09):
B to actually get organized on hey, where are these
cuts going to come from?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Programmatically?

Speaker 11 (28:16):
So first of all, thanks thanks for having me on.
Great to see you actually last week at South Florida.
Let me just tell you that I believe where we
are the NDAA is. It's a bill that I'm not
going to be able to vote for. I've said that publicly.
The reason we agreed unanimously to let it move forward
with a rule was because there's a fight going on
right now that the Speaker is picked to put Democrats

(28:37):
in a box on the absurdity that the chairman or
I'm sorry, the ranking member for Democrats of the House
Armed Services Committee refuses to support an NDAA because we
simply are banning the ability of taxpayer funding to go
to child mutilation for transgender surgeries for children. So think

(28:59):
about that. There's actually power in doing that now. I
don't like the funding levels. I don't like a lot
of the stuff in the bill, but here's the deal.
We're able to keep the funding level in this version
at the FRA caps. They're not the caps shoe and
I would choose, but they are actually at the caps,
and we can go deal with that on the appropriation

(29:19):
side once we have the good guys like Russ, voter
ATOMB and so forth in the room. The recent out
vote against the bill is it continues to have DEI
office at Chief Diversity Officer. It still does not end
race based admissions. For example at the academies. There's still
you know, taxpayer funded abortion travel fund. But I think
the Trump world will be able to come in and

(29:41):
not do a lot of those policies. We hold the
spending at the FRA caps. We give Russ and Company
and the DOSEE guys the ability to identify savings. Shove
down on that when we deal with the appropriations in March.
To get to your next question, which is the CR.
I don't like crs, but a three month CR to
buy time to get the good guys in there to

(30:03):
negotiate and work on a really good spending package. Hopefully
at the FRA cap levels are lower come March while
we're negotiating reconciliation. I think it's net a win. So
last point, remember, the CR won't be clean. They're going
to tag to it an unpaid for bloated disaster supplemental.

(30:24):
I will oppose that but my guess is it'll get
moved under a suspension of the rules. I'm focused like
a laser with RUSS and a lot of the good
guys on the reconciliation package.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
You said it.

Speaker 11 (30:36):
I think we need a border reconciliation package first. I
think we need to come out of the gate and
get it to the President's desk in January. I think
it needs to be paid for. I think it needs
to give him what he needs for border patrol, for ice,
for building the wall, for two eighty seven g efforts
to work with local law enforcement, and all of the
things that we need to do to expedite removals. And

(30:56):
we need to give him those resources before the media
starts putting out parades of horribles and the pictures in
the press, and bunch of congress critters get cold feet
and don't give the president the win he needs on
the border. We can deal with tax and spending later
in the spring and by summer. If we complicate it
with a big package out of the gate, we won't
deliver a win for President Trump on the border.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
So that's where I am on those things.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
I think we can get this NDAA to the best
place to get me again. I won't vote for the
bill on the floor, but we were able to get
through this rule process. We were able to extract wins
to force Schumer's hands, and now we can empower the
Trump world next spring. Again, not exactly what I would draft,
and I'll vote against it, but I think we navigated

(31:40):
and threaded the needle to set up the team in
the spring.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I so want to make sure I understand something on
the NDAA once you and I understand the appropriation process,
and this is why I've advocated immediately we don't need
to pass a six trillion dollars budgets. Got a tree
and a half dollar or trading dollar gap app and
then have the Doge, Vivid and Elon come in affort's absurd.
You've got to put that since they are partners with

(32:07):
O and B that are to be a collective effort
in this appropriation's process. Those twelve individual bills, and that's
why we hate short term serres. You got to kick
it to President Trump, so President Trump gets it. But
when you pass the this is because I just don't
trust the Armed services. I don't they're always playing games.
When you pass this NDAA it's got an eight hundred

(32:28):
and eighty billion dollar number in it what Vivid and
Elon have have represented, and I think it may be
over aggressive in the selling a couple of training dollars
or the savings. You have to look on the discretionary
spending A one point five. You got to look at
the defense budget. If we lock in an NDAA at
eight hundred and eighty billion, I understand on the appropriations,

(32:49):
you'll be able to because that's where you're shuffling the
cards under that top line.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You'll be able to make some marginal cuts. I got it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Maybe the system here, system there, but the types of
structural change as they're talking about is off the table
until next year of this NBAA. If this NDAA is approved,
Am I incorrect on that?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I think it is yes and no.

Speaker 11 (33:11):
You and I shared the skepticism for what will happen
with respect to defense. You set that number, that'll be
the number. What I'll tell you is we've been fighting
off the defense appropriators who want another twenty five billion
in this. They wanted a higher authorization number, they want
a higher appropriation number. They wanted a big Omnimus bill
in December that would be twenty five billion higher on defense,

(33:33):
and then they're going to want more in Py twenty six.
So we're navigating through that while trying to buy time
for President Trump and Lord Willings Secretary Headseth to come
in and give us our priorities alongside DOJE and Russ.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
We know those will be good.

Speaker 11 (33:50):
I don't accept that this locks us into that one number.
What I'm telling you is I'm holding my nose. I'll
vote against the bill, but I'm holding my nose to
move the rule long because I will give credit where
it is due. Despite my disagreements on things. The Speaker
has fought to get this issue with respect to the
trans surgeries and to hold the total top line down

(34:11):
to the FRA cap deal and had to. It tells
you how bad the Republican confidence he had to fight
to do that. So this is why we need to
keep working to get this into the funnel and get
the Trump team in place so we have more support
to get those numbers down. So what I'm telling you
is this is an authorization bill, not the appropriations. Yes,

(34:33):
it is a higher number than you and I would prefer,
but importantly we're holding it down and now we can
go try to fight to change it when the good
guys come in.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
In January, but in the authorization also to do you
know for you know, Vivid and a Musk came to
you guys the other day and it turned out to
be an open mic night with Hey, I you know,
there's a university in my district that does you know
Salamander rec search. You're not going to you know, talking

(35:02):
about people and talk about these little you're not going
to get there. That's just the typical thing that's been
talked about on talk radio in these shows for decades
and decades and decades and Leviathan growth. To deconstruct the
administrative state, there has to be a rethinking of exactly
what we're trying to do to get to limited government.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
You've got to have strategic and priorities.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Here's we're going to do to get the blessings of liberty,
and we're not going to do these other things. On
the authorization. We aren't we locking. Aren't we locking in
basically the American Empire? And now we're going to talk
about on the margins, do we cut ten billion here,
five B and here to fifteen b in here? But
that authorization authorizes the neo con perspective of an American empire.

(35:43):
If you vote for it, you're locked in with a
top line number that they ain't going to back off
of easily, sir.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So we're in agreement generally.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Let me back up to the DOGE meeting when we
had the back in Elon in there. I think some
of what happened there was private meeting very public because
I went to the mic. There was all this love
fest and everybody was sitting there going, oh, we love you,
thank you, You're going to save us, You're.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Going to make all these cuts.

Speaker 11 (36:07):
And when I stood up to the mic and I said, guys,
you know, we've been looking for the enemy, and the
enemy's us, right, it's the people in this room. We're
the ones that have been signing on to all of
these not myself, but like and there's a block of
us and Freedom Carcass and others that have said no.
But you know, we've been passing these bills and the
power of the purse, we've been funding all the garbage,
and so what you have right now is, by the way,

(36:30):
as I said, the Republican Chairman of the Rule of
the Armed Services Committee is mad at the speaker for
daring to try to pull back on some of the
issues like the trans surgeries and stuff, saying we shouldn't
do that. It's too important. We've got to move this
big national defense authorization build. To your point, Yes, we
need a radical rethinking about how we handle defense. You

(36:52):
and I and you served. We believe in having a
strong military as a deterrent, sparingly used with the tools
to carry it out the care when they get home,
but not endless wars, not endless conflict, not this neo
con globalists go around the world perspective. So we've got
to figure out how to change that. That's been why

(37:12):
we've been fighting to defend Pete, defend the nomination for
the president, defend Tulsi, defend the world view of the
president that we don't need to be in these endless conflicts.
The authorization is not where it should be.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Comma.

Speaker 11 (37:26):
However, what we've got in here are improvements, and we
held that number down. If we didn't do it this way,
the neo cons would have won in December, and we
would have had a higher number via a suspension of
the rules, and we would have lost the policy gains
we got So this is about trying to buy time

(37:47):
to get to January with the least damage possible.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
And I think that we've done that again. I'm going
to go to fill on the floor.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Got I'm going to get to the Freedom cross here.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Every member of those what they call the Cardinal Appropriation,
but particular those guys in the Armed Service Committee. You
watch every one of them. It wants increased defensemen. They
want to get to a tree and down as quickly
as possible. And and they're going to vote for massive
tax cuts for the wealthy and for the billionaires and corporations.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Watch it right. Don't want to take your number of
contencil and write that down right now.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
And you and I agree on that, which is why
I support moving the border Reconciliation package and why I
said in a meeting yesterday that I'm not going to
agree to all of these massive tax cuts unless and
until we talk about what we're going to do on
spending cuts, spending restraint, and restructuring the entirety of government.
That's what we talked about yesterday. You are correct, the

(38:40):
powers that be don't want to do that, but there's
a block of us who do. And we're fighting to
say that's what we need to do.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let's just talk about I've noticed that Freedom cock has
been a little quiet lately. I know it's an interim period.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Talk to me about the House Freedom Caucus, and you know,
I've known you for many, many years. I know when
you roll with Ted Cruz and you're a fight. We
need somebody that's we need the russ votes types, the fighters,
the people, and the people you can't bs the people
that know where the bodies are buried.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's Chip Roy. So tell me what's happened to the
Freedom Caucus of what's happened to you.

Speaker 11 (39:12):
Well, the Freedom Caucus is engaged heavily. One of the
reasons that we're currently pulling back on the bloated disaster
supplemental is that the Freedom COREXS has been holding the
line saying no, we're not going to do that. We
put out a statement saying, guys, this should be paid for.
You can't pass this on a cr We took an
official position. We're trying to leverage on that. Remember that

(39:32):
the dance right now is what happened the last nine months,
where things were passed under suspension of the rules, which
is where they can bypass us right with a big
Uni party vote, and we're doing everything we can to
leverage what we can with the Speaker, who is giving
us a seat at the tables the Freedom Caucus to say, guys,
this is what the right thing to do is. And
we're trying to get this conference united around advancing the

(39:54):
President's agenda. So the Freedom Cacus is sitting there saying, guys,
minimize what you're doing on this supplemental let's get votes
to pay per things. And there's some resistance to that.
Remember going back to the fight two years ago with
the Speaker, we wanted to get more amendment votes to
demonstrate that we should pay for things, that we should
do the right thing, that we should vote on the
issues that matter, and that's what we're working on is

(40:17):
opening this process up. So bottom line is we're throwing
down on issues like that unpaid for spending, fighting the
unpaid for expansion of the stealing and Social Security which
is going to shorten the time frame when it's going
to go bankrupt. And so we've been throwing down on
those issues. But when you get end run with a
suspension of the rules, it's limited. That's why we're working

(40:38):
with the Trump administration coming in to set the fight up.
That's why the border supplemental fight matters so much, to
do that out of the gate, to give the present
that the tools he needs.

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(41:28):
the past couple of years, doesn't wash.

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All you see in the liberal left pro guess are
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(42:08):
cheer broid. Knowing you a long time, you know, let
me make a recommendation to start out.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
What we need you.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
You're a both a strategys and a tactician. We need
a hammer, a hammer on the Rules Committe. You've been
on rules but like Chairman of the Rules, is that
just too far outside the realm of possibility?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Sir?

Speaker 11 (42:26):
Well, that position is up to the speaker and you
know I will defer to the speaker on that. Obviously,
I have put my name out there and it's and
and you know are a number of my colleagues am
proud to have their support. Again, it's up to the speaker.
I think that I would add some value in that
position because of my expertise and the rules and because
I think I can figure out how to bring the
conference together, because we have to deliver. The whole point

(42:48):
here is for the President, for the country, for the movement.
We have to get to two hundred and eighteen votes
to deliver on the agenda. We have to secure the border,
we have to deal with the tax and spending issue
reduced to deficit, and we've got to fundamentally transform the
town that is beholden to the special interests around Washington,
including in the Defense Department. We've got to up end

(43:08):
the into intel, you know, focus on the American people
at the FBI and the intel communities. And we've got
to restructure the power base and de weaponize government against
the people that is going to take Congress doing its job.
I think I could do a good job of that
at the Rules Committee, but that is up to the
Speaker and I'm just you know, I'll leave it up
to him.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
But I'm happy to serve. If asked, Chip, where.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Do people follow you on social media? How do they
get to your office, your website, all of it?

Speaker 11 (43:35):
Sure, Roy dot House dot gov is myficial side and
Rep Chip roy on Twitter. On theficial side, I'm Chip
roy T x c h I P R O y
t X in my personal slash political Twitter. And appreciate you,
Steve god bless it.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Encongressman and Roy.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
We really appreciate you and want you back on as
frequently as you can to explain. This is obviously very complicated,
and the audience loves this stuff so and they want
to they want to be active, they want to get
engaged as usual.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So thank you.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Let's let's come back.

Speaker 11 (44:03):
Let's come back on and talk about reconciliation that I've
been talking to us about it. We can really get
the weeds on it whenever you want.

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folks are manning the ramparts because this is this is
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