December 27, 2024 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 27TH, 2024
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JACK POSO
LAURA LOOMER
MICHAEL SEIFERT
RAHEEM KASSAM
DAVE BRAT
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
On these people.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
There's not got a free shot on all these networks
lying about the people. The people have had a belly
full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country will be saved.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
War Room.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Bab It's Friday, twenty seven December and the Earvilore twenty
twenty four in a firestorm over the last forty eight
hours about American sovereignty and what kind of country we
are and what kind of country are we going to be?
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And actually who's in charge? Very we kind of have
to have some clarifications, as Jack Pisovic calls it, Jack
Pisoba still with Rahemsam, Dave Bratt is joining us. Laura
lum is going to call in in a little while
she's out and about DC Draino's with us the movie.
That song one of the best theme songs. But the
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film itself is very underrated from the early nineteen eighties,
off of a book by Tom Wolf and you haven't
read the book. The books amazing. It is the right
stuff and it's a fabulous book in a very underrated
but amazing movie. If you get chants over the weekend,
you go to watch. It talks about the grit, determination, cussedness,
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and good old brains of the American people, as personified
in The Mercury Program, The Astronaut Program. DC Draino, Brother,
you don't do a lot of podcast, you don't do
a lot of news. You're out there, you're grinding. Why
you so worked up, DC takes you got to go
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pretty far in the woods to hit your trip wire.
Why are you so worked up about this topic, sir?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
This hits at the core of the entire MAGA movement
of American exceptionalism, of the populous nature of our victory,
that we got the popular vote and our new family members,
adopted family members, the tech bro some of them you know,
are kind of figuring out how they fit into this
new family. Look, I got I got the Bandon pens
(03:07):
ready to go. I'm channeling my inner Bandon today. So
you know, I call this a bud Light moment almost right,
or maybe a Joni Ernst moment. They stepped on the
third rail and they said, Okay, we won.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Everyone seems cool with us. And now the political.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Stupidity of bringing this up when they did is the
first thing I want to call out. We just went
through two three days of wal to wall coverage of
a woman being burned alive in a New York subway
by an illegal alien and no one's.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Doing anything about it.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
And then these guys say, you know what, we need
more immigration. The tone deafness is just astounding. And you know,
it's similar to bud Light.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
We had just had the Nashville Christian School shooting, and
what did bud Light put out for or five days
later a trans guy taking a bubble bath with bud
Light right. The political stupidity of this, But listen, I
think we're gonna work this out, right.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think this is a healthy debate.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
We're setting some ground rules of being in our family
and if the Democrats can house.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hold it, hold it, hold it DC, hang on, hang on.
First off, this is not done. It's it's populous nationalists
versus elite globalist And when you say we're going to
work this out, you guys, I'm gonna get loomers on here.
She's banned. They're trying to ban Gavin Wax. You're gonna
be banned eventually by the free speech absolutist. The nerds
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don't take criticism. They're kind of, you know, they're a
little bit all on the spectrum, right, so they don't
know that they're not deep in social skills. And I say,
you can't run a country by algorithm. You can't run
a country by the nerds that create and talking. Their
companies all employee a handful of people, and they're all
math you know, they're all mathematicians, all about algorithms. You
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can't run a country like that. We're a country, not
an economy. And people say, oh, Steve, you're you're condemning
us to be a third world nation. Anything but anything,
but the American people rise to the occasion, and they're
rising to the occasion now. But you can't sit there
and tell the American people. This is problem. We have
a capitalist system with no capitalist it's a concentration of
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wealth and power. And now you're seeing what they're doing
with this not just illegal immigration. Look, folks, and this
brought fifteen million people into the country. I was on
David Sacks's show on the on election night and I
told the guy, Hey, yeah, we're going to deport all
fifteen million. He like freaked out. It pretty seemed like
a pretty good guy. But I think this is the
guy that put out yesterday's tweet said we want to
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be in people in the United States bring in five
million year. No, we do not and not going to
have a billion people in the United States of America.
People are I say, we're kind of overcrowded right now,
particularly out West. The folks are saying, hey, way too
much people. You have a you have a buzy are
idea of what this country is, no understanding of how
we got here, and no idea of what we are
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going to be in the future. We are not going
to be some anarcho libertarian you know, big tech run
by big tech oligarchs. That is not going to happen. Okay,
we haven't fought all these wars and haven't gotten here
to give it over to a bunch of geeks that
you would stuff in that. They're all reacting being stuffed
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in the locker in high school. They're having a reaction
DC Drainer.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Yeah, that was again another tone deaf post. And you know,
VAK and I have not always gotten along. We kind
of have a little bit of a truth right now.
But you know, the American people are starting to see
kind of what he believes on on the H one b's,
this is not a surprise. Bright brought wrote an article
about this and twenty twenty three he wants uncapped H
one b's and listen, there's it's the same as when
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the Democrats say who's going to pick the crops? These
new type of globalists are saying, well, who's going to
do the coding? Right, it's how about Americans? How about
you pay market wages for American employees and you don't
trash American culture, You don't call us mediocre, sir. We
just took back this country from the most hostile regime
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that has ever occupied it. American grit did that. Not
every American is exceptional, but.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hold is a hang on, well, hang on hang on DC, DC,
we took it back from them. They were a huge
part of the problem. They were handing. Every one of
these guys was hand in glove. Look, I saw them
all come as supplicants to Trump in sixteen, and what
they did is they embedded in the administrative state and
some elements of the White House in the administration, and
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they kind of got their way. And I said the
time when Zuckerberg and these guys start coming around the
Oval Office, they're down there now, they're million dollar checks,
you know, kissing the ring. But they don't have good intentions.
They just don't. They're anti sovereigntists. They see this as
kind of a They don't see as a country. They
see it as the as the hub of a network,
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the railhead of a network. They want to go back
to what the Medici's head in in, the Borgius head
in in uh In, in the Middle Ages, in Italy,
these kind of city states. That's what they look at,
d C, draina. So what are you going to do,
DC to throw down hard? Your a pretty big voice,
but they're gonna ban you, brother.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, I've already been banned, so I'm kind of used
to it. It was banned for a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
You know, thankfully we've got other platforms with true free speech.
But listen, I I think we got to work this
out and and they got to take a back seat.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
They're new to this movement.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
They certainly don't have our best intentions and in their hearts,
and they got to take a back seat. And if
they start giving us actual free speech on social media, Uh,
if they start monetizing conservatives, which we've seen in the
last twenty four hours, does not look like that's going
to be happening. Uh, you know, then then maybe we
can discuss some O one visa.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But they got to take a back seat.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
These are the same people that ban Trump off every
single platform just four years ago, and now they're coming
in after he takes control and say, well, here's what
we want from you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And listen, we tried this experiment of importing foreign workers
and outsourcing to China and cheap labor, because that's all
this is. It's just cheap labor, that's all they want.
And it hollowed out the rust bell, it destroyed communities.
You know, they for every person they hire on the cheap,
a family gets destroyed. Right, a person they hire from overseas,
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A family gets destroyed. That increases drug addiction, that increases
school dropout rates, crime rates, and the American people is
left are left paying for this. So at the very least,
as much as we're going to put tariffs on foreign imports,
why don't we put tariffs on these foreign workers too.
You want to pay him for cheap, guess what it's
going to be more expensive than if you hire a
American native worker. I think that's what we should focus on.
(09:58):
Maybe that's a compromise, but that's the best they're gonna get. Uh,
you know, we're no offense. We're putting the nerds back
in the locker, which Trump is our guy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, you're gonna repeat high school here, Nerds, you keep
pushing this, You're gonna repeat high school and get stuffed
in the locker. You're not going to date the prom queen.
Uh VC. How do people catch you? What they can
on social media?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
D C Draino on everything, and uh, you know, it's
an honor to be back on the warm Steve.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We we missed you.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
And uh you know this is this is a fight
we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But listen.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
If the Democrats can somehow house Jews and pro Hamas
in their side of things, I think we'll be able
to figure out a solution to all this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Amen, brother, thank you, d C Drando Jack Posovic your
thoughts on on free speech absolutism. You've been a big believer,
You've been a big believer in UH in this, but
looks like it's shifting the other way. That they're demonetizing people,
taking them off, taking away their blue checks. What's going on?
What's what's your guidance, Steve?
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Look, I think that X what it did in twenty
twenty four, and I'm always going to give Elon Musk
credit to buying it in twenty twenty two and then
turning it into the folkrum of free speech that it
was that want us the election. Look, Kamala Harris could
be president if not for X, and you can't lose
sight of that. That being said, Look, if there's some standard,
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if there's some terms of service that someone violated, spell
it out.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
What was it?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
What did Laura Lumer violate, What did Gavin Wax violate?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
What did Owen Schreyer violate?
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Explain it to us, show us the evidence and let's
see the receipts, because right now it looks that all
that got violated was that they had a disagreement with
the most powerful user on the platform, and optics on
that aren't exactly free speech. This reminds everybody of the
worst of the eras of Zuckerberg, of Google, of YouTube,
and all the rest of it. When people are getting
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banned left and right. Even Stephen came ban and got
banned simply for saying a common phrase about Anthony Fauci.
And we all remember, we all remember what happened to
Alex Jones years ago, and I always stood up for
him for his right for freedom of speech, even when
people said, hey, this isn't good for you politically post
so this.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Isn't good for you. Don't be associated.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
Look no, no, because they go for Alex, the'll comfort Steed,
They'll come for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
By the way, Warream's one of the biggest, most powerful shows.
We're still banned everywhere in perpetuity. We don't give a damn.
I can't care less kick it. We're not going to
have rule by nerds. Not going to happen. We want
to have a throw down. Now, let's have a throw
down now not going to have rule, but never been
there done that. We saw that, We saw in the pandemic.
We saw what you did to Trump. We saw how
you try to suppress everything. We've had. Rule by nerds
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not going to happen again. That's where we're all down
to mar Lago right now, you know, kissing the ring
giving you a little million dollar checks? Jack, Where do
people get you? You got the new podcast about Christianity. It's
just like in Humans is brilliant. What you did on
the communist side you're doing now, Where do people get it? Sure?
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Well, thank you, Steve. So we took some time off
and you know, I thought we were going to have
some family time, but Maggat takes no days off. We've
created a new series called The Chronicles of the Christians
because it's time for Christians to understand that Christian history
is at the core of Western civilization's history, and Christianity
has always been a.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Core driver of this.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
The first episode yesterday we covered a thousand years and
people can go and check that out. The true rise
of Christianity, how it spread, how the Gospel spread, and
how during the Middle Ages it was the monastases and
it was the scripturia is that kept the word of God.
This is what spread public literacy, by the way, was
the ability to read the Bible. Today we get into
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the Crusades, the true story of the Crusades, and how
by the way, that it was the Western Church coming
to the aid of the Eastern Church after the schism
because they were about to be overrun by who the caliphate.
We're going to tell the entire story of Christianity in
a way that you've never heard before.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It's all coming out, I believe.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
By the way, thank you to the war Room Engine
Room for airing it as well on the war Room
Rumble channel. And of course we've got it up on
Apple podcasts, So pull your Apple podcast out and go
subscribe Human Events Daily.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We'll begin dropping it all this weekend. Next week.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
My favorite gift for my beloved kid brother, my free
Constantinople T shirt now going viral. Jack, Thank you so much.
We'll be listening and washing today. We'll put it up
on all of our platforms. It's amazing your stuff.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Words, thank you, Stantinople, Steve two words on that land back.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Head it back, Thank you brother, Appreciate you. Okay, Johnny
Kahn from Breitbarrow take us out. We got bratt Raheem
Lumer next in the war room.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
America huge or who Stephen k Bat.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, we've got Laura Lumer on deck by phone, But
I've got Michael Seaffert first, the chairman CEO of the
publicly traded Public Square, one of the best companies out
there for building the patriot economy. Brother Seaffert, you've been
you kind of came from that Silicon Valley culture. This
is why you started the alternative Patriot economy really marketplace
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exchange of Public Square. You've been on fire brother, on
Twitter over the last twenty four to forty eight hours.
Tell me what your beef is, sir.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Well, my beef is, simply put, Steve, that I believe
the American people have given a clear mandate on November
fifth that we want a populist future that is rooted
in America first principles for everything, for tech, for hiring,
for policy, for business, for housing, America and Americans first.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Always. So simply put, if any.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Idea or economic solution or policy agenda causes Americans to
be deprioritized, it's not something we should embrace. And in fact,
it's something that we should verbally and often criticize, and
I think Trump said it best in twenty sixteen, President
Trump said, the H one B program is neither high
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skilled nor immigration. Those lies are all just that they're lies.
These are temporary foreign workers imported from abroad for the
explicit purpose of substituting for American workers.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
At lower pay.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
The reality is, Steve, the American people are the best
on the planet. In fact, the National I'm going to
read this to you because I thought it was fascinating.
I discovered this yesterday. The National Academy of Sciences found
that American seniors outperform on the computer sciences than any
other country, most especially China, Russia, and India. So this
facade that Americans are lazy and we don't have the
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right talent, it's not true. We've had a status system
for the last eight years that is actually utilized DEI
and ESG to deprioritize native born American applicants in favor
of foreign workers through visa programs and one other thing.
If you actually love India so much, then you should
want India to thrive. And the best way to have
India thriving is by making sure that their top talent
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stays over there.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So I am heated about this topic. It's got to be.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
America and Americans first for American companies, and we actually
put our money where our mouth is, Steve. Anytime we
have an applicant come through with an H one B
or an O one or a visa program of any
sorts on their application, we automatically deny them.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
We're an American company. It's Americans first, and we're really
glad to have a unified culture in our workforce where
all of our employees are actually American and we're unified
to a common cause of strengthening the American economy through
the American principles.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
We are not just an economic zone.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
We're not just a sports team, and we're not just
a financial institution that you can extract value from. We're
an actual country, a culture with customs and traditions. We're
a heartland and for me, it's my home. So it's
not just an economic zone. It's our home and we
want to make sure that we protect it.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The reason you're so special on this is you're running
a tech company. You came from tech to create this.
What about their argument is that you're just condemning by
not doing this, you're condemning America to be a second
or third rate power. That our superpower comes from ability
to attract all these brains and geniuses from around the world.
Is there any You're in the middle of this and
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you're publicly traded, so you've got to deliver for your
shareholders any every day. Is there any truth to that
part of the argument of these guys.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No, it's employe to get cheaper labor.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
At the end of the day, the best Americans are,
excuse me, the best engineer, Steve, I've ever met all
happened to be American. If you meet a phenomenal, kick
butt American engineer, any actual professional in this space will
tell you they're the best engineers on the planet. And
so our belief is very simply put it, we want
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to ensure that the best engineers on the planet get
into our company. It just so happens that those best
engineers on the planet come from the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And one other thing I'll.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Mention Steve, is that employees are not only measured at
our company by their ability to produce great code. There's
also a cultural fit that has to be consistent. So
if you have a company made up of a bunch
of people that don't align on anything else other than
their ability to write code, you're not going to actually
have a productive company culture. You won't have a unifying
bond that's consistent throughout all of your employees. So not
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only are we as a tech company super focused on
ensuring that we have the best engineers on the planet
that happen to be from the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We're also focused headstrong.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
And ensuring that our company culture is about the main thing.
It's about an actual consistent common mission that is shared
amongst all of our employees. So yeah, as an American company,
I think that that's argument that we could find more
skilled labor by going overseas is ludicrous. And I think
that anybody worth their salt in this space would tell
you that that's the truth. There's a reason that American
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engineers generally cost more, and it's not because they're entitled.
It's because they're better at their craft. We have an
entrepreneurial spirit in the United States that has created the
best startups ever known to mankind. So this idea that
America is lazy, what are you talking about? We're the
highest producers in the world. We're the innovative drivers that
have led to monumental advancements in the world of technology
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and enterprise finance. And so yeah, for us, we see
it as a strategic move, not just a patriotic move,
to ensure that our employee base is full of American
workers and that we're rejecting these visa program applicants.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So, Michael, I want ever I go to the site
today to check it out, to check out your business,
but also want your Twitter account because you've been on fire.
Where they go where they go for Public Square, and
then where they go for you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, thanks Steve.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
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Michael site sei first four letters of my last name,
and I'd love to connect with you over there.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So Steve, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
On, brother Seaffert, thank you for being on fire over
the last forty hours. Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Okay,
one of the strongest voices out there, Laura Lumer now
joins us by front. Laura, what is this really about?
You've been at kind of the tip of the tip
of the spear here and they're trying to shut you down.
But what is this Pull back for a second and
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frame this argument. What is this actually about, ma'am?
Speaker 10 (21:48):
So what do you have is ever since four months
ago when President Trump was almost assassinated in Butler, you
have the most vitriolic and censorious leftist billionaires and privileged
executives in Silicon Valley deciding that a censoring and silencing
President Trump and the MAGA base for the last eight
or nine years. They want to have a seat at
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the table. And why do they want a seat at
the table Because they want to skirt accountability and the
incoming Trump administration after doing everything in their power to
stop President Trump from getting elected. And they also want
to immigrant They want to influence our immigration policy. And
so I've been calling this out from the get go,
been very critical of the big tech executives walking intomorrow
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Lago like they're trying to buy influence with their one
million dollar checks and coming around after being vitriolic towards
President Trump. And the question is, and your previous guests
this morning have the same questions, why are these people
who have a history of hating President Trump all of
a sudden trying to dictate us on our immigration policy
and telling us that we're stupid, We're not the best
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and brightest.
Speaker 11 (22:52):
We have to import people to do the job in tech.
We have to have foreigners.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Now work with David Sacks, who didn't even support presid
Than Trump in the primary. Right, So these are people
who supported Ron DeSantis and said that President Trump was
too old and that he was likely going to go
to jail and not survive his indictments.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
These are the people that are being welcomed into the
White House.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
And so this all started because I posted a tweet
about this Guysterram and pointed out the fact that he
has been donating to Democrats, including pro impeachment and pro
indictment democrats like Rocanna, who said that President Trump should
be impeached one month before the presidential election.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
And now we're watching these people who have never had an.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
Interest in President Trump, who donated to his political opponents
over the years, supported Hillary Clinton, supported Rocana now trying
to influence our policy. And the tech bros don't want accountability, Bannon,
That's what this is about.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
They don't like in people get a light.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, but hang one second. By the way, Rokahana has
got the take on economic nation because economic patriots, I'm
not so or the guy the Game of check really
totally understands his economic policies, which was really kind of
America first. But let me go back to Elon Musk
and I've said this over again because he and now
have a lot of disagreements, and particularly on transhumanism and
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the CCP. But Laura, when the campaign had no money,
the outside groups ran the ground game. You know this,
you were there. He wrote a two hundred and fifty
million dollar checks starting in you know, every month, starting
in July. We would not have had the ground game victory.
Who had the fifty some plus million people that show
up a mass mobilization if Elon didn't write that check.
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I mean, how do you how do you deal with that?
That the fact that he he has he's going to
be at the table because he's one of the most
important guys that that back President Trump financially and in
his engineering mind, he didn't spend the money on ads.
He went right back and supported you know, Charlie Kirk's efforts,
our efforts, your efforts, everybody to get out the vote.
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How do you square that?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Man?
Speaker 10 (24:59):
Well, you can have a at the table, But why
are Trump loyalists and people who have actually had get
in the game since the beginning not allowed to criticize
or even report on the history and the nature of
the people that are now being appointed to work in
the Trump administration. This is about freedom of speech. This
is about holding truth to power, and this is about
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being able to speak truth to power and speak truth
about unelected billionaires who now want to pretend like they
are president. And a lot of people are concerned about this.
It's not just Democrats that are concerned about the level
of influence that technocratic billionaires are having walking in tomorrow
Igo and trying to have a seat at the table
to influence our tech policy after being anti MAGA in
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pro open borders their entire lives. So we need to
have a conversation about this. People shouldn't be demonetized. I
was banned, I was banned from Twitter, and I'm still
suspended for hours. I had my blue check mark taken away,
even though I've been a paid subscriber to Twitter and
I've supported Premium, and I also had all of my
paid subscribers taken away. These are people that decided to
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support me with their money because they like what I.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Do and they enjoy my journalism.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
And so now a billionaire who doesn't like the fact
that I'm opposed to h one B visas, and a
billionaire that doesn't like the fact that I'm pointing out
that a guy who donated to pro impeachment Democrats shouldn't
have a seat at the table, and the Trump administration
is going to take that away from me.
Speaker 11 (26:23):
It sends a chilling effect. And you know, if you're
not going to support free speech and you're going to.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Silence President Trump's supporters and his most loyal followers who
helped get him elected when people like Elon Musk and
David Saffer were supporting and financing Ronda Stantis.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
You don't have a spot at the table. You shouldn't
have a spot at the table.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Lar just Hanger for one second. I know you get
a bull but I need to hold you just shortly
quickly through this break. Laura Lohmer joins us by phone.
Raheem Cassam, Dave Brad, Darren Beattie, Rosemary jenks All. Next
in the war room.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
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I know you get a bounce number one. What is
your beef policy wise on what the tech brows are
trying to do? Give me a minute or so on
(27:47):
the beef and then we talk about B and D
platform what is so, what's your beef?
Speaker 11 (27:52):
They're trying to reform original MAGA immigration policy.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I posted the video of President Trump from twenty sixteen
saying that the H one visa system is full of
abuse and fraud and that he's going to eliminate it.
You have these tech billionaires who think that us they
can just buy influence and walking Tomorrow Lago and try
to tell us that we're stupid and we're retarded. I
mean that's literally what Elon Musk said. He called us
(28:15):
subtards because we don't want H one B visas. And
so I also have a problem with his ties to China. Okay,
I really do feel that it's inappropriate for a guy
who is being funded by well, you know, he's closely
aligned with Jijiping and Lee Kwang of the CCP. They
support his Shanghai giga factory. Why does this guy have
(28:36):
unfettered access to President Trump? And what are these the
national security implications of this? I know that you've spoken
out about this, and we really need to have an
honest conversation about this. At what point do we say,
thank you so much for supporting President Trump and donating
to his ground game, But these conflicts are inappropriate and
they're going to create a potential controversy for President Trump
(28:58):
and his no and ees in the Trump administration. We
need to have an honest conversation about this that isn't
blinded by people love this for a technocraduct billionaire. We
need to protect President Trump fromly the conflicts.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
The guys that are.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Going into advise on tech are openly tweeting about their
investment portfolios and Palenteer while they're appointing all of their
Palenteer associates to serve in the Trump administration. These are
inappropriate conflicts that we would be criticizing the Democrats for,
and we need to have the same standards. We need
to have the same standards or else we're no better
than the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Laura real quickly. He's a free speech absolutist. The platform
is supposed to be about free speech absolutism. What is
your current status, man, what has happened to you on
that platform?
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Well, if he's a.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
Free speech absolutist, why was my account suspended? Why was
my verified premium account taken away from me? So if
you subscribe to me, thank you for your support, but
you will no longer be able to subscribe to me
because Elon Musk has suspended your ability to support my
work because he doesn't like what I said. If you
want to verify that my account is me and it's
(30:07):
not some troll trying to pretend to be me, you're
not going to be able to verify my account anymore
because I have lost my verification, my blue check because
Elon Musk doesn't like what I said. I didn't dox anybody,
I posted publicly available FEC records. I didn't incite violence
against anybody. I am simply trying to warn the Trump
administration about something that is going to blow up in
(30:29):
their face, and it actually has the risk of potentially
getting President Trump impeached in his second term if the
Democrats take back the House and are successfully able to
spin and create a narrative that big tech is trying
to buy influence and that they are enriching themselves in
the Trump administration. I'm trying to warn them about a
serious issue on the horizon, and it needs to be
(30:50):
taken seriously because clearly the mag of base is up
in arms about this today.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Laura, where do people then go to get you? Where
do we go to day to track Laura Lumer as
you're are the tip of the tip of the spear
in this fight. Man.
Speaker 10 (31:06):
Well, you can go to my website lumored dot com
lumored dot com. You can support my work. I guess
on buying me a copy dot com slash Laura Lumer
and subscribe to me on Rumble, Rumble dot com, slash
Laura Lumer and truth Social. Hopefully I am able to
get back in my account once the twelve hour suspension
is up, but it doesn't look like I'm really going
(31:28):
to be able to post long tweets anymore since my
character limit has been limited and I've been banned from
being able to purchase premium according to the messages I
got from X last night. Hopefully, hopefully President Trump can
can tell Elon Musk to restore the verifications for his
supporters and his best foot soldiers during the campaign. We
need to be able to have open dialogue and conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Laura. Thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on by
the way. You see Laura in Dan Flood's The Pictorial
History of the War Room Rebels row In Outlaws. It's
an amazing book, and I tell you her photos are
quite frankly stunning. Laura Loomer a fighter. Raheem, what the
hell's going on here? You've been on this for the
(32:14):
last forty eight hours, but you've been fighting this fight
with us for a decade. What is really going on here?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, that's right, Steven.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, I like to think of that I can
come at this conversation certainly not as a jock, but
also not as a nerd. I was never in a
spelling bee contest that I was never particularly good at mathematics,
and I sort of like to think that for the nerds,
I can be the job whispering for the job, so
I can be the nerd whisper. The psychological part of
this that you guys have brought up all of this
show is obviously massive. You know, these are people who
(32:43):
are effectively using a government sponsored immigration program, a government policy.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
A long standing and long bemoaned H one.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
B policy that the United States has to bring in
people that they can use as indentured servants, but also
to bring in.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
People that they can bully.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Right, that is the cultural and psychological factor behind all
of this. But this argument, it's very heart and I
was warning all year long that you bring these outsiders in.
And you know, I think a lot of people have
said this over the course of the show. We obviously
are very grateful for the support, for the money, for
the packs, for the voter registration, for the purchase of
(33:23):
X from Big Tech, but hey, what's the point of
the purchase of X from Big Tech if it's just
meet the new boss same as the old boss. And
that's what this really comes down to. If you're having
an open conversation on a platform like X, you should
be able to pretty much say virtually anything short of,
you know, threats to violence or violent insurrection or whatever
(33:44):
it is. But what we saw take place yesterday was
the culmination of a conversation that has been running for
decades and decades. And look, and I wrote the book
in twenty eighteen called Enoch was Right. This was about
a British parliamentarian.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Who you know very well, Powell, who.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Gave this message loud and clear to the British public
that if you keep mass importing people then it is
akin to a nation heaping up.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Its own funeral.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
Pyre.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And when I listen to Laura Luma, when I listen
to Jack Pacerbik, when a listener, you've got Darren Beattie
and Mark Racoran and all these guys, they will say
the same thing. This is like a nation heaping up
its own funeral pyre and listen. Take it from me,
an outside voice who came here from the United Kingdom
to warn you not to go down the same route
that we have gone. And that is exactly what these
(34:34):
big tech holigarchs want.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Rights, it's mass.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Immigration, it's you know, a complete disregard for not just Americans,
but American culture. They couldn't care less about it. So
here's here's the deal that we have to assert at
this point. And by the way, it's funny, isn't it
that some of us don't need to stroke a million
dollar and ten million dollar checks to have influence and
(34:58):
to be heard. Why Because we speak the truth, and
we speak from the heart, and we speak with morality
at its core. There is nothing moral about indentured servitude.
There is nothing moral about the H one B system.
There is nothing moral about the brain drain that it
creates on the rest of the world.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
There's absolutely nothing moral.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
About what it does to American citizens whose parents and
grandparents and great grandparents built the country paid into the
system and are now getting a bum rap as a
result of these of these new tech hologogues.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It was always going to happen.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It was always a fight we were going to have
to have, and I'm glad we're having it now.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
The deal is simple.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You don't get to roll in at the last minute
saying yeah, yeah, yeah, we love Trump too, and then
control the policy positions of the incoming administration.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm sorry, We're not going to tolerate it. Raheem, hangar
for one second. I'm going to put a pin in
that comry back to you, Rosemary Jenks. You're the expert
in this is in fact, you've left Numbers USA to
actually getting into a more activist role. Here is Raheem
right about this is what the techologarks are saying, the
tech bro saying, just another cover for a scam to
(36:03):
get mass legal immigration.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
Ma'am oh, one hundred percent, there's no question about that.
And I think the masks came off during this last
week of debate, and actually I think it's been a
fantastic debate until yesterday. And I was already to give
Elon Musk credit for allowing this to happen on X
because really, I think the tech CEOs stepped out of
(36:28):
their bubble early in the week and assumed that they
could convince the unwashed masses that, you know, their need
for cheap labor is real and America can only win
if they get their cheap indentured servants. And the fact
that they were immediately pushed back on with facts, with data,
with stories, heartbreaking stories of Americans who have been displaced,
(36:52):
who have lost job opportunities, who never got the opportunities
in the first place, even though they did all the
right things and developing the skills. I think all of
that is exactly what should happen in a democracy. We
should be having that debate about legal immigration. We've had
it about illegal everyone apparently agrees now, but on legal immigration,
(37:14):
this is precisely the kind of debate.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
We should have.
Speaker 13 (37:18):
So now we have to see are the tech CEOs
going to basically throw all the toys out of the
prim and go home, or are they going to have
a rational conversation that can lead us to a solution
that benefits American workers and potentially, you know, benefits them
to That's fine, but we have to come to the
table if we're going to have a solution, if they're
(37:39):
going to throw their their toys out of the prim
and go home, then it's all for not.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, tell me give me a minute on before I
get a bounce about what is because people look to
you as somebody's shaped this conversation for the last ten years.
President Trump would not be president if it was not
for the pick and shovel work you guys are doing
in Numbers USA and guys Marca Korean for years that
empowered Stephen Miller and others like myself at Breitbart to
(38:06):
really have a club to bludgeon like the House and
the Senate during the rise of Trump. What is the
solution here, ma'am on the dialogue base and that's a
specific policy, But how do we get this back on track?
Speaker 13 (38:18):
Well, I think, first of all, and I'm with the
Immigration Accountability Project. First of all, what we need to
do is look at where the abuses are occurring. We
should not have indentured servitude in the United States of
America in the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's a simple fact.
Speaker 13 (38:38):
There has been all kinds of things thrown out on
Twitter over the last week about how our education system
is terrible and that's the root of the problem. Well,
if that's the case, then why are all these Indians
and Chinese coming to American universities, graduating from American universities
and then being put into American jobs. If employers are
willing to hire foreign graduates of American universities, will they
(39:00):
hire American graduates of American universities. These are things we
need answers to. We have to have this conversation, and
it can't be You know that the tech oligarchs can
buy out the entire policy realm. The American people get
a say in America, so you know this is not
(39:21):
America is not a corporation that is designed solely to
promote the enrichment of the owners and the managers. This
is a nation, this is our home. We have a
say and whatever our public policy is, and immigration is
public policy, it should benefit Americans, not just a certain
(39:43):
class of them, not just the elites, which is what
has happened for the last thirty forty fifty years.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Roseenbrie, where do people get you at your new gig,
your new organization that's looking for accountability. You've done all
the work for a couple of decades. Where do folks go, maam?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Immigration?
Speaker 13 (40:00):
Where the Immigration Accountability Project is at iaproject dot org.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We're on X.
Speaker 13 (40:05):
All of our social media is linked from our website
iaproject dot org.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thank you, ma'am. You're the best. Rosemary Jenks on a
Friday morning, laying it down hard. What a warrior she is. Amazing.
Long fight, long way to go, but we're gonna win. Folks.
Just take a deep breath. We're on top of this
home title lock. Don't we need you at the ramparts.
We can't have you with somebody taking a second on
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Speaker 9 (40:54):
Next, use your who Stephen came back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
By the way, this argument is just not for the magabase.
This talks about our realignment. Like nineteen thirty two, this
goes to all Americans. Like that interview I gave this
every American citizens involved in this conversation. This is our country, right,
many of you have been here six seven generations, have
nothing to show for it. American citizens come first, The
interest of American citizens come first always. That's where this
(41:30):
debate is so important. It couldn't get Darren beat. We
had technical problem with Darren's going to join us on
Saturday show. We'll get Daring up. Then he's got a
lot to say about this topic. Dave Brat your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, it's always immigration, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Immigration always shines the light on this corruption and leaving
the American citizen behind.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And so there's nothing new.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Oligarchs maximizing profits, all corporations maximizing profits. The way you
can always tell what's going on here is if you're
really going to put the American citizen first, right, if
you're really going to pay attention to the voters who
are moving our way, Black, brown, Hispanic, those in the
middle class of America. Why do CEOs and the oligarchs
(42:18):
only focus on engineers and stem There is no attention
paid to the third graders in Chicago who are reading
at a twelve percent literacy rate. If you care about
America and you want to put America first, there's your answer.
The reason it's easy is because between China and India
you got two point eight billion people.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
So it's a numbers game. Of course, you're going to
find some geniuses.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
If we would educate our own kids so that they
can read in the third grade and then go on
through the rest of the school we have plenty of
talent in this country. It's a disgrace. So we're doing
a We're doing a paradigm shift. Mega is a paradigm shift.
Trump is a paradigm shift. We took out the majority
leader with your helping Breitbart twelve years ago, with Cannon
(43:01):
and all that over this issue. Immigration always cuts through
the noise. The American people can clearly see who's on
their side. When you're talking about culture, all of this
fits under justice, underneath the Judeo Christian West. These other
countries and cultures, name me a great university off the
tip of your tongue in China or India, great technical
(43:23):
education you have, blah blah blah. Let me see a
system that works over the long run. China's cracking up.
They will not have an economic system that's tied to
morality like Raheem was just talking about that's the key
to the Judeo Christian West. We're seeing a paradigm shift
like you've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
We're going to get it.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Right this time.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Elon and Vivak brilliant, smart guys, but they don't get
to profit maximize at the expense of the American citizen.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
First, Dave, where do people go to get all this
great material from you on social media? In your website?
Speaker 12 (43:59):
Yeah, just Brat Bratt economics on Getter. Great show today, unreal, fantastic.
We'll see tomorrow. Dave's gonna be my co host tomorrow
on the Saturday Show. Brett, thank you so much, thanks
for hanging around, brother Dave Brett unique voice. Remember he
defeated Eric Canner, first time majority leader in the history
of this country ever been defeating the primary day Brett
on the topic of wait for it, immigration, Raheem Cassam
(44:23):
National Pulse. You guys have been putting up incredible pieces
on this.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Gavin Wax has got a piece we'll upt in your sight,
broke it all down so people can understand exactly what
we're talking about from the math. So make sure they're
just not punitry. Where do people go for the National
Pulse brother.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Right, And that's the point, Steve. You know, this isn't
just about complaints. You know, this show takes you through
like where it all starts and how we actually get
to the solution of this. And if you want to
talk about you know, special people are the Einstein's all
of that. You're not talking about h one B. So
the whole conversation is a fraud and the face and
a scam. To begin with, we have the all school
(45:00):
brilliant article by will Upton up on the National Pulse
dot com. It's on the left sidebar in the analysis section.
People should go check it out if you want to
support our work and get more of that kind of
information out there. It's the Nationalpulse dot Com Forward slash
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Speaker 1 (45:23):
Raheem's all over this topic and quite frankly, this is
one of the reasons that German government's following. This is
the reason the French government's following. This is the reason
Niger frag historically, the reform a movement. Yesterday went over
collapse centories and now the Reform Party has been around
for a year or two has now have more members
than the Tory Party. We'll talk about that tomorrow with Raheem. Raheem,
(45:46):
thank you for coming on. Thank you for the pieces.
Everybody go to National Pulse check out detailed analytical pieces.
Gavin wax But one of the leaders of this movement,
have a piece up in a while. Thank you, brother, Yes,
thank you. What a fight. It's a fight. You got
to get a stick up for this thing, right. American citizens, first,
I don't care if you're African, American, Hispanic, white, if
(46:08):
you're if you're, if you, if you if you're American citizen,
comes from India, it's not a problem. It's not a problem.
You're an American citizen. This about an American citizen. This
is about our sovereignty. And Laura Loomer is absolutely correct.
We can't see this ground to anyone. This is the
ground we're going to find because we're a country, not
an economy. Mike Lindell speaking of economy and I R
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the economy, all of it live here in real America's voice.
Speaker 11 (48:56):
See that
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
On these people.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
There's not got a free shot on all these networks
lying about the people. The people have had a belly
full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country will be saved.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
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Speaker 5 (01:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:19):
Bab It's Friday, twenty seven December and the Earvilore twenty
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are and what kind of country are we going to be?
(01:39):
And actually who's in charge? Very we kind of have
to have some clarifications, as Jack Pisovic calls it, Jack
Pisoba still with Rahemsam, Dave Bratt is joining us. Laura
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she's out and about DC Draino's with us the movie.
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(02:41):
pretty far in the woods to hit your trip wire.
Why are you so worked up about this topic, sir?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
This hits at the core of the entire MAGA movement
of American exceptionalism, of the populous nature of our victory,
that we got the popular vote and our new family members,
adopted family members, the tech bro some of them you know,
are kind of figuring out how they fit into this
new family. Look, I got I got the Bandon pens
(03:07):
ready to go. I'm channeling my inner Bandon today. So
you know, I call this a bud Light moment almost right,
or maybe a Joni Ernst moment. They stepped on the
third rail and they said, Okay, we won.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Everyone seems cool with us. And now the political.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Stupidity of bringing this up when they did is the
first thing I want to call out. We just went
through two three days of wal to wall coverage of
a woman being burned alive in a New York subway
by an illegal alien and no one's.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Doing anything about it.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
And then these guys say, you know what, we need
more immigration. The tone deafness is just astounding. And you know,
it's similar to bud Light.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
We had just had the Nashville Christian School shooting, and
what did bud Light put out for or five days
later a trans guy taking a bubble bath with bud
Light right. The political stupidity of this, But listen, I
think we're gonna work this out, right.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think this is a healthy debate.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
We're setting some ground rules of being in our family
and if the Democrats can house.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Hold it, hold it, hold it DC, hang on, hang on.
First off, this is not done. It's it's populous nationalists
versus elite globalist And when you say we're going to
work this out, you guys, I'm gonna get loomers on here.
She's banned. They're trying to ban Gavin Wax. You're gonna
be banned eventually by the free speech absolutist. The nerds
(04:42):
don't take criticism. They're kind of, you know, they're a
little bit all on the spectrum, right, so they don't
know that they're not deep in social skills. And I say,
you can't run a country by algorithm. You can't run
a country by the nerds that create and talking. Their
companies all employee a handful of people, and they're all
math you know, they're all mathematicians, all about algorithms. You
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can't run a country like that. We're a country, not
an economy. And people say, oh, Steve, you're you're condemning
us to be a third world nation. Anything but anything,
but the American people rise to the occasion, and they're
rising to the occasion now. But you can't sit there
and tell the American people. This is problem. We have
a capitalist system with no capitalist it's a concentration of
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wealth and power. And now you're seeing what they're doing
with this not just illegal immigration. Look, folks, and this
brought fifteen million people into the country. I was on
David Sacks's show on the on election night and I
told the guy, Hey, yeah, we're going to deport all
fifteen million. He like freaked out. It pretty seemed like
a pretty good guy. But I think this is the
guy that put out yesterday's tweet said we want to
(05:45):
be in people in the United States bring in five
million year. No, we do not and not going to
have a billion people in the United States of America.
People are I say, we're kind of overcrowded right now,
particularly out West. The folks are saying, hey, way too
much people. You have a you have a buzy are
idea of what this country is, no understanding of how
we got here, and no idea of what we are
(06:07):
going to be in the future. We are not going
to be some anarcho libertarian you know, big tech run
by big tech oligarchs. That is not going to happen. Okay,
we haven't fought all these wars and haven't gotten here
to give it over to a bunch of geeks that
you would stuff in that. They're all reacting being stuffed
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in the locker in high school. They're having a reaction
DC Drainer.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Yeah, that was again another tone deaf post. And you know,
VAK and I have not always gotten along. We kind
of have a little bit of a truth right now.
But you know, the American people are starting to see
kind of what he believes on on the H one b's,
this is not a surprise. Bright brought wrote an article
about this and twenty twenty three he wants uncapped H
one b's and listen, there's it's the same as when
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the Democrats say who's going to pick the crops? These
new type of globalists are saying, well, who's going to
do the coding? Right, it's how about Americans? How about
you pay market wages for American employees and you don't
trash American culture, You don't call us mediocre, sir. We
just took back this country from the most hostile regime
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that has ever occupied it. American grit did that. Not
every American is exceptional, but.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hold is a hang on, well, hang on hang on DC, DC,
we took it back from them. They were a huge
part of the problem. They were handing. Every one of
these guys was hand in glove. Look, I saw them
all come as supplicants to Trump in sixteen, and what
they did is they embedded in the administrative state and
some elements of the White House in the administration, and
(07:45):
they kind of got their way. And I said the
time when Zuckerberg and these guys start coming around the
Oval Office, they're down there now, they're million dollar checks,
you know, kissing the ring. But they don't have good intentions.
They just don't. They're anti sovereigntists. They see this as
kind of a They don't see as a country. They
see it as the as the hub of a network,
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the railhead of a network. They want to go back
to what the Medici's head in in, the Borgius head
in in uh In, in the Middle Ages, in Italy,
these kind of city states. That's what they look at,
d C, draina. So what are you going to do,
DC to throw down hard? Your a pretty big voice,
but they're gonna ban you, brother.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, I've already been banned, so I'm kind of used
to it. It was banned for a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
You know, thankfully we've got other platforms with true free speech.
But listen, I I think we got to work this
out and and they got to take a back seat.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
They're new to this movement.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
They certainly don't have our best intentions and in their hearts,
and they got to take a back seat. And if
they start giving us actual free speech on social media, Uh,
if they start monetizing conservatives, which we've seen in the
last twenty four hours, does not look like that's going
to be happening. Uh, you know, then then maybe we
can discuss some O one visa.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But they got to take a back seat.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
These are the same people that ban Trump off every
single platform just four years ago, and now they're coming
in after he takes control and say, well, here's what
we want from you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And listen, we tried this experiment of importing foreign workers
and outsourcing to China and cheap labor, because that's all
this is. It's just cheap labor, that's all they want.
And it hollowed out the rust bell, it destroyed communities.
You know, they for every person they hire on the cheap,
a family gets destroyed. Right, a person they hire from overseas,
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A family gets destroyed. That increases drug addiction, that increases
school dropout rates, crime rates, and the American people is
left are left paying for this. So at the very least,
as much as we're going to put tariffs on foreign imports,
why don't we put tariffs on these foreign workers too.
You want to pay him for cheap, guess what it's
going to be more expensive than if you hire a
American native worker. I think that's what we should focus on.
(09:58):
Maybe that's a compromise, but that's the best they're gonna get. Uh,
you know, we're no offense. We're putting the nerds back
in the locker, which Trump is our guy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, you're gonna repeat high school here, Nerds, you keep
pushing this, You're gonna repeat high school and get stuffed
in the locker. You're not going to date the prom queen.
Uh VC. How do people catch you? What they can
on social media?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
D C Draino on everything, and uh, you know, it's
an honor to be back on the warm Steve.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We we missed you.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
And uh you know this is this is a fight
we're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But listen.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
If the Democrats can somehow house Jews and pro Hamas
in their side of things, I think we'll be able
to figure out a solution to all this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Amen, brother, thank you, d C Drando Jack Posovic your
thoughts on on free speech absolutism. You've been a big believer,
You've been a big believer in UH in this, but
looks like it's shifting the other way. That they're demonetizing people,
taking them off, taking away their blue checks. What's going on?
What's what's your guidance, Steve?
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Look, I think that X what it did in twenty
twenty four, and I'm always going to give Elon Musk
credit to buying it in twenty twenty two and then
turning it into the folkrum of free speech that it
was that want us the election. Look, Kamala Harris could
be president if not for X, and you can't lose
sight of that. That being said, Look, if there's some standard,
(11:24):
if there's some terms of service that someone violated, spell
it out.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
What was it?
Speaker 9 (11:29):
What did Laura Lumer violate, What did Gavin Wax violate?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
What did Owen Schreyer violate?
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Explain it to us, show us the evidence and let's
see the receipts, because right now it looks that all
that got violated was that they had a disagreement with
the most powerful user on the platform, and optics on
that aren't exactly free speech. This reminds everybody of the
worst of the eras of Zuckerberg, of Google, of YouTube,
and all the rest of it. When people are getting
(11:56):
banned left and right. Even Stephen came ban and got
banned simply for saying a common phrase about Anthony Fauci.
And we all remember, we all remember what happened to
Alex Jones years ago, and I always stood up for
him for his right for freedom of speech, even when
people said, hey, this isn't good for you politically post
so this.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Isn't good for you. Don't be associated.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
Look no, no, because they go for Alex, the'll comfort Steed,
They'll come for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
By the way, Warream's one of the biggest, most powerful shows.
We're still banned everywhere in perpetuity. We don't give a damn.
I can't care less kick it. We're not going to
have rule by nerds. Not going to happen. We want
to have a throw down. Now, let's have a throw
down now not going to have rule, but never been
there done that. We saw that, We saw in the pandemic.
We saw what you did to Trump. We saw how
you try to suppress everything. We've had. Rule by nerds
(12:44):
not going to happen again. That's where we're all down
to mar Lago right now, you know, kissing the ring
giving you a little million dollar checks? Jack, Where do
people get you? You got the new podcast about Christianity. It's
just like in Humans is brilliant. What you did on
the communist side you're doing now, Where do people get it? Sure?
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Well, thank you, Steve. So we took some time off
and you know, I thought we were going to have
some family time, but Maggat takes no days off. We've
created a new series called The Chronicles of the Christians
because it's time for Christians to understand that Christian history
is at the core of Western civilization's history, and Christianity
has always been a.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Core driver of this.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
The first episode yesterday we covered a thousand years and
people can go and check that out. The true rise
of Christianity, how it spread, how the Gospel spread, and
how during the Middle Ages it was the monastases and
it was the scripturia is that kept the word of God.
This is what spread public literacy, by the way, was
the ability to read the Bible. Today we get into
(13:44):
the Crusades, the true story of the Crusades, and how
by the way, that it was the Western Church coming
to the aid of the Eastern Church after the schism
because they were about to be overrun by who the caliphate.
We're going to tell the entire story of Christianity in
a way that you've never heard before.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
It's all coming out, I believe.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
By the way, thank you to the war Room Engine
Room for airing it as well on the war Room
Rumble channel. And of course we've got it up on
Apple podcasts, So pull your Apple podcast out and go
subscribe Human Events Daily.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We'll begin dropping it all this weekend. Next week.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
My favorite gift for my beloved kid brother, my free
Constantinople T shirt now going viral. Jack, Thank you so much.
We'll be listening and washing today. We'll put it up
on all of our platforms. It's amazing your stuff.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Words, thank you, Stantinople, Steve two words on that land back.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Head it back, Thank you brother, Appreciate you. Okay, Johnny
Kahn from Breitbarrow take us out. We got bratt Raheem
Lumer next in the war room.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
America huge or who Stephen k Bat.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, we've got Laura Lumer on deck by phone, But
I've got Michael Seaffert first, the chairman CEO of the
publicly traded Public Square, one of the best companies out
there for building the patriot economy. Brother Seaffert, you've been
you kind of came from that Silicon Valley culture. This
is why you started the alternative Patriot economy really marketplace
(15:26):
exchange of Public Square. You've been on fire brother, on
Twitter over the last twenty four to forty eight hours.
Tell me what your beef is, sir.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Well, my beef is, simply put, Steve, that I believe
the American people have given a clear mandate on November
fifth that we want a populist future that is rooted
in America first principles for everything, for tech, for hiring,
for policy, for business, for housing, America and Americans first.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Always. So simply put, if any.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Idea or economic solution or policy agenda causes Americans to
be deprioritized, it's not something we should embrace. And in fact,
it's something that we should verbally and often criticize, and
I think Trump said it best in twenty sixteen, President
Trump said, the H one B program is neither high
(16:21):
skilled nor immigration. Those lies are all just that they're lies.
These are temporary foreign workers imported from abroad for the
explicit purpose of substituting for American workers.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
At lower pay.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
The reality is, Steve, the American people are the best
on the planet. In fact, the National I'm going to
read this to you because I thought it was fascinating.
I discovered this yesterday. The National Academy of Sciences found
that American seniors outperform on the computer sciences than any
other country, most especially China, Russia, and India. So this
facade that Americans are lazy and we don't have the
(16:54):
right talent, it's not true. We've had a status system
for the last eight years that is actually utilized DEI
and ESG to deprioritize native born American applicants in favor
of foreign workers through visa programs and one other thing.
If you actually love India so much, then you should
want India to thrive. And the best way to have
India thriving is by making sure that their top talent
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stays over there.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So I am heated about this topic. It's got to be.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
America and Americans first for American companies, and we actually
put our money where our mouth is, Steve. Anytime we
have an applicant come through with an H one B
or an O one or a visa program of any
sorts on their application, we automatically deny them.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
We're an American company. It's Americans first, and we're really
glad to have a unified culture in our workforce where
all of our employees are actually American and we're unified
to a common cause of strengthening the American economy through
the American principles.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
We are not just an economic zone.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
We're not just a sports team, and we're not just
a financial institution that you can extract value from. We're
an actual country, a culture with customs and traditions. We're
a heartland and for me, it's my home. So it's
not just an economic zone. It's our home and we
want to make sure that we protect it.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The reason you're so special on this is you're running
a tech company. You came from tech to create this.
What about their argument is that you're just condemning by
not doing this, you're condemning America to be a second
or third rate power. That our superpower comes from ability
to attract all these brains and geniuses from around the world.
Is there any You're in the middle of this and
(18:31):
you're publicly traded, so you've got to deliver for your
shareholders any every day. Is there any truth to that
part of the argument of these guys.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
No, it's employe to get cheaper labor.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
At the end of the day, the best Americans are,
excuse me, the best engineer, Steve, I've ever met all
happened to be American. If you meet a phenomenal, kick
butt American engineer, any actual professional in this space will
tell you they're the best engineers on the planet. And
so our belief is very simply put it, we want
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to ensure that the best engineers on the planet get
into our company. It just so happens that those best
engineers on the planet come from the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And one other thing I'll.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Mention Steve, is that employees are not only measured at
our company by their ability to produce great code. There's
also a cultural fit that has to be consistent. So
if you have a company made up of a bunch
of people that don't align on anything else other than
their ability to write code, you're not going to actually
have a productive company culture. You won't have a unifying
bond that's consistent throughout all of your employees. So not
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only are we as a tech company super focused on
ensuring that we have the best engineers on the planet
that happen to be from the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We're also focused headstrong.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
And ensuring that our company culture is about the main thing.
It's about an actual consistent common mission that is shared
amongst all of our employees. So yeah, as an American company,
I think that that's argument that we could find more
skilled labor by going overseas is ludicrous. And I think
that anybody worth their salt in this space would tell
you that that's the truth. There's a reason that American
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engineers generally cost more, and it's not because they're entitled.
It's because they're better at their craft. We have an
entrepreneurial spirit in the United States that has created the
best startups ever known to mankind. So this idea that
America is lazy, what are you talking about? We're the
highest producers in the world. We're the innovative drivers that
have led to monumental advancements in the world of technology
(20:23):
and enterprise finance. And so yeah, for us, we see
it as a strategic move, not just a patriotic move,
to ensure that our employee base is full of American
workers and that we're rejecting these visa program applicants.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So, Michael, I want ever I go to the site
today to check it out, to check out your business,
but also want your Twitter account because you've been on fire.
Where they go where they go for Public Square, and
then where they go for you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, thanks Steve.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
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(21:13):
Michael site sei first four letters of my last name,
and I'd love to connect with you over there.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So Steve, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
On, brother Seaffert, thank you for being on fire over
the last forty hours. Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Okay,
one of the strongest voices out there, Laura Lumer now
joins us by front. Laura, what is this really about?
You've been at kind of the tip of the tip
of the spear here and they're trying to shut you down.
But what is this Pull back for a second and
(21:44):
frame this argument. What is this actually about, ma'am?
Speaker 10 (21:48):
So what do you have is ever since four months
ago when President Trump was almost assassinated in Butler, you
have the most vitriolic and censorious leftist billionaires and privileged
executives in Silicon Valley deciding that a censoring and silencing
President Trump and the MAGA base for the last eight
or nine years. They want to have a seat at
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the table. And why do they want a seat at
the table Because they want to skirt accountability and the
incoming Trump administration after doing everything in their power to
stop President Trump from getting elected. And they also want
to immigrant They want to influence our immigration policy. And
so I've been calling this out from the get go,
been very critical of the big tech executives walking intomorrow
(22:30):
Lago like they're trying to buy influence with their one
million dollar checks and coming around after being vitriolic towards
President Trump. And the question is, and your previous guests
this morning have the same questions, why are these people
who have a history of hating President Trump all of
a sudden trying to dictate us on our immigration policy
and telling us that we're stupid, We're not the best
(22:52):
and brightest.
Speaker 11 (22:52):
We have to import people to do the job in tech.
We have to have foreigners.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Now work with David Sacks, who didn't even support presid
Than Trump in the primary. Right, So these are people
who supported Ron DeSantis and said that President Trump was
too old and that he was likely going to go
to jail and not survive his indictments.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
These are the people that are being welcomed into the
White House.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
And so this all started because I posted a tweet
about this Guysterram and pointed out the fact that he
has been donating to Democrats, including pro impeachment and pro
indictment democrats like Rocanna, who said that President Trump should
be impeached one month before the presidential election.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
And now we're watching these people who have never had an.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
Interest in President Trump, who donated to his political opponents
over the years, supported Hillary Clinton, supported Rocana now trying
to influence our policy. And the tech bros don't want accountability, Bannon,
That's what this is about.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
They don't like in people get a light.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, but hang one second. By the way, Rokahana has
got the take on economic nation because economic patriots, I'm
not so or the guy the Game of check really
totally understands his economic policies, which was really kind of
America first. But let me go back to Elon Musk
and I've said this over again because he and now
have a lot of disagreements, and particularly on transhumanism and
(24:12):
the CCP. But Laura, when the campaign had no money,
the outside groups ran the ground game. You know this,
you were there. He wrote a two hundred and fifty
million dollar checks starting in you know, every month, starting
in July. We would not have had the ground game victory.
Who had the fifty some plus million people that show
up a mass mobilization if Elon didn't write that check.
(24:34):
I mean, how do you how do you deal with that?
That the fact that he he has he's going to
be at the table because he's one of the most
important guys that that back President Trump financially and in
his engineering mind, he didn't spend the money on ads.
He went right back and supported you know, Charlie Kirk's efforts,
our efforts, your efforts, everybody to get out the vote.
(24:56):
How do you square that?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Man?
Speaker 10 (24:59):
Well, you can have a at the table, But why
are Trump loyalists and people who have actually had get
in the game since the beginning not allowed to criticize
or even report on the history and the nature of
the people that are now being appointed to work in
the Trump administration. This is about freedom of speech. This
is about holding truth to power, and this is about
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being able to speak truth to power and speak truth
about unelected billionaires who now want to pretend like they
are president. And a lot of people are concerned about this.
It's not just Democrats that are concerned about the level
of influence that technocratic billionaires are having walking in tomorrow
Igo and trying to have a seat at the table
to influence our tech policy after being anti MAGA in
(25:41):
pro open borders their entire lives. So we need to
have a conversation about this. People shouldn't be demonetized. I
was banned, I was banned from Twitter, and I'm still
suspended for hours. I had my blue check mark taken away,
even though I've been a paid subscriber to Twitter and
I've supported Premium, and I also had all of my
paid subscribers taken away. These are people that decided to
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support me with their money because they like what I.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Do and they enjoy my journalism.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
And so now a billionaire who doesn't like the fact
that I'm opposed to h one B visas, and a
billionaire that doesn't like the fact that I'm pointing out
that a guy who donated to pro impeachment Democrats shouldn't
have a seat at the table, and the Trump administration
is going to take that away from me.
Speaker 11 (26:23):
It sends a chilling effect. And you know, if you're
not going to support free speech and you're going to.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Silence President Trump's supporters and his most loyal followers who
helped get him elected when people like Elon Musk and
David Saffer were supporting and financing Ronda Stantis.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
You don't have a spot at the table. You shouldn't
have a spot at the table.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Lar just Hanger for one second. I know you get
a bull but I need to hold you just shortly
quickly through this break. Laura Lohmer joins us by phone.
Raheem Cassam, Dave Brad, Darren Beattie, Rosemary jenks All. Next
in the war room.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
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I know you get a bounce number one. What is
your beef policy wise on what the tech brows are
trying to do? Give me a minute or so on
(27:47):
the beef and then we talk about B and D
platform what is so, what's your beef?
Speaker 11 (27:52):
They're trying to reform original MAGA immigration policy.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I posted the video of President Trump from twenty sixteen
saying that the H one visa system is full of
abuse and fraud and that he's going to eliminate it.
You have these tech billionaires who think that us they
can just buy influence and walking Tomorrow Lago and try
to tell us that we're stupid and we're retarded. I
mean that's literally what Elon Musk said. He called us
(28:15):
subtards because we don't want H one B visas. And
so I also have a problem with his ties to China. Okay,
I really do feel that it's inappropriate for a guy
who is being funded by well, you know, he's closely
aligned with Jijiping and Lee Kwang of the CCP. They
support his Shanghai giga factory. Why does this guy have
(28:36):
unfettered access to President Trump? And what are these the
national security implications of this? I know that you've spoken
out about this, and we really need to have an
honest conversation about this. At what point do we say,
thank you so much for supporting President Trump and donating
to his ground game, But these conflicts are inappropriate and
they're going to create a potential controversy for President Trump
(28:58):
and his no and ees in the Trump administration. We
need to have an honest conversation about this that isn't
blinded by people love this for a technocraduct billionaire. We
need to protect President Trump fromly the conflicts.
Speaker 11 (29:12):
The guys that are.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Going into advise on tech are openly tweeting about their
investment portfolios and Palenteer while they're appointing all of their
Palenteer associates to serve in the Trump administration. These are
inappropriate conflicts that we would be criticizing the Democrats for,
and we need to have the same standards. We need
to have the same standards or else we're no better
than the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Laura real quickly. He's a free speech absolutist. The platform
is supposed to be about free speech absolutism. What is
your current status, man, what has happened to you on
that platform?
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Well, if he's a.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
Free speech absolutist, why was my account suspended? Why was
my verified premium account taken away from me? So if
you subscribe to me, thank you for your support, but
you will no longer be able to subscribe to me
because Elon Musk has suspended your ability to support my
work because he doesn't like what I said. If you
want to verify that my account is me and it's
(30:07):
not some troll trying to pretend to be me, you're
not going to be able to verify my account anymore
because I have lost my verification, my blue check because
Elon Musk doesn't like what I said. I didn't dox anybody,
I posted publicly available FEC records. I didn't incite violence
against anybody. I am simply trying to warn the Trump
administration about something that is going to blow up in
(30:29):
their face, and it actually has the risk of potentially
getting President Trump impeached in his second term if the
Democrats take back the House and are successfully able to
spin and create a narrative that big tech is trying
to buy influence and that they are enriching themselves in
the Trump administration. I'm trying to warn them about a
serious issue on the horizon, and it needs to be
(30:50):
taken seriously because clearly the mag of base is up
in arms about this today.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Laura, where do people then go to get you? Where
do we go to day to track Laura Lumer as
you're are the tip of the tip of the spear
in this fight. Man.
Speaker 10 (31:06):
Well, you can go to my website lumored dot com
lumored dot com. You can support my work. I guess
on buying me a copy dot com slash Laura Lumer
and subscribe to me on Rumble, Rumble dot com, slash
Laura Lumer and truth Social. Hopefully I am able to
get back in my account once the twelve hour suspension
is up, but it doesn't look like I'm really going
(31:28):
to be able to post long tweets anymore since my
character limit has been limited and I've been banned from
being able to purchase premium according to the messages I
got from X last night. Hopefully, hopefully President Trump can
can tell Elon Musk to restore the verifications for his
supporters and his best foot soldiers during the campaign. We
need to be able to have open dialogue and conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Laura. Thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on by
the way. You see Laura in Dan Flood's The Pictorial
History of the War Room Rebels row In Outlaws. It's
an amazing book, and I tell you her photos are
quite frankly stunning. Laura Loomer a fighter. Raheem, what the
hell's going on here? You've been on this for the
(32:14):
last forty eight hours, but you've been fighting this fight
with us for a decade. What is really going on here?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, that's right, Steven.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, I like to think of that I can
come at this conversation certainly not as a jock, but
also not as a nerd. I was never in a
spelling bee contest that I was never particularly good at mathematics,
and I sort of like to think that for the nerds,
I can be the job whispering for the job, so
I can be the nerd whisper. The psychological part of
this that you guys have brought up all of this
show is obviously massive. You know, these are people who
(32:43):
are effectively using a government sponsored immigration program, a government policy.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
A long standing and long bemoaned H one.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
B policy that the United States has to bring in
people that they can use as indentured servants, but also
to bring in.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
People that they can bully.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Right, that is the cultural and psychological factor behind all
of this. But this argument, it's very heart and I
was warning all year long that you bring these outsiders in.
And you know, I think a lot of people have
said this over the course of the show. We obviously
are very grateful for the support, for the money, for
the packs, for the voter registration, for the purchase of
(33:23):
X from Big Tech, but hey, what's the point of
the purchase of X from Big Tech if it's just
meet the new boss same as the old boss. And
that's what this really comes down to. If you're having
an open conversation on a platform like X, you should
be able to pretty much say virtually anything short of,
you know, threats to violence or violent insurrection or whatever
(33:44):
it is. But what we saw take place yesterday was
the culmination of a conversation that has been running for
decades and decades. And look, and I wrote the book
in twenty eighteen called Enoch was Right. This was about
a British parliamentarian.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Who you know very well, Powell, who.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Gave this message loud and clear to the British public
that if you keep mass importing people then it is
akin to a nation heaping up.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Its own funeral.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
Pyre.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And when I listen to Laura Luma, when I listen
to Jack Pacerbik, when a listener, you've got Darren Beattie
and Mark Racoran and all these guys, they will say
the same thing. This is like a nation heaping up
its own funeral pyre and listen. Take it from me,
an outside voice who came here from the United Kingdom
to warn you not to go down the same route
that we have gone. And that is exactly what these
(34:34):
big tech holigarchs want.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Rights, it's mass.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Immigration, it's you know, a complete disregard for not just Americans,
but American culture. They couldn't care less about it. So
here's here's the deal that we have to assert at
this point. And by the way, it's funny, isn't it
that some of us don't need to stroke a million
dollar and ten million dollar checks to have influence and
(34:58):
to be heard. Why Because we speak the truth, and
we speak from the heart, and we speak with morality
at its core. There is nothing moral about indentured servitude.
There is nothing moral about the H one B system.
There is nothing moral about the brain drain that it
creates on the rest of the world.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
There's absolutely nothing moral.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
About what it does to American citizens whose parents and
grandparents and great grandparents built the country paid into the
system and are now getting a bum rap as a
result of these of these new tech hologogues.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It was always going to happen.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It was always a fight we were going to have
to have, and I'm glad we're having it now.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
The deal is simple.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You don't get to roll in at the last minute
saying yeah, yeah, yeah, we love Trump too, and then
control the policy positions of the incoming administration.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm sorry, We're not going to tolerate it. Raheem, hangar
for one second. I'm going to put a pin in
that comry back to you, Rosemary Jenks. You're the expert
in this is in fact, you've left Numbers USA to
actually getting into a more activist role. Here is Raheem
right about this is what the techologarks are saying, the
tech bro saying, just another cover for a scam to
(36:03):
get mass legal immigration.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
Ma'am oh, one hundred percent, there's no question about that.
And I think the masks came off during this last
week of debate, and actually I think it's been a
fantastic debate until yesterday. And I was already to give
Elon Musk credit for allowing this to happen on X
because really, I think the tech CEOs stepped out of
(36:28):
their bubble early in the week and assumed that they
could convince the unwashed masses that, you know, their need
for cheap labor is real and America can only win
if they get their cheap indentured servants. And the fact
that they were immediately pushed back on with facts, with data,
with stories, heartbreaking stories of Americans who have been displaced,
(36:52):
who have lost job opportunities, who never got the opportunities
in the first place, even though they did all the
right things and developing the skills. I think all of
that is exactly what should happen in a democracy. We
should be having that debate about legal immigration. We've had
it about illegal everyone apparently agrees now, but on legal immigration,
(37:14):
this is precisely the kind of debate.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
We should have.
Speaker 13 (37:18):
So now we have to see are the tech CEOs
going to basically throw all the toys out of the
prim and go home, or are they going to have
a rational conversation that can lead us to a solution
that benefits American workers and potentially, you know, benefits them
to That's fine, but we have to come to the
table if we're going to have a solution, if they're
(37:39):
going to throw their their toys out of the prim
and go home, then it's all for not.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, tell me give me a minute on before I
get a bounce about what is because people look to
you as somebody's shaped this conversation for the last ten years.
President Trump would not be president if it was not
for the pick and shovel work you guys are doing
in Numbers USA and guys Marca Korean for years that
empowered Stephen Miller and others like myself at Breitbart to
(38:06):
really have a club to bludgeon like the House and
the Senate during the rise of Trump. What is the
solution here, ma'am on the dialogue base and that's a
specific policy, But how do we get this back on track?
Speaker 13 (38:18):
Well, I think, first of all, and I'm with the
Immigration Accountability Project. First of all, what we need to
do is look at where the abuses are occurring. We
should not have indentured servitude in the United States of
America in the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's a simple fact.
Speaker 13 (38:38):
There has been all kinds of things thrown out on
Twitter over the last week about how our education system
is terrible and that's the root of the problem. Well,
if that's the case, then why are all these Indians
and Chinese coming to American universities, graduating from American universities
and then being put into American jobs. If employers are
willing to hire foreign graduates of American universities, will they
(39:00):
hire American graduates of American universities. These are things we
need answers to. We have to have this conversation, and
it can't be You know that the tech oligarchs can
buy out the entire policy realm. The American people get
a say in America, so you know this is not
(39:21):
America is not a corporation that is designed solely to
promote the enrichment of the owners and the managers. This
is a nation, this is our home. We have a
say and whatever our public policy is, and immigration is
public policy, it should benefit Americans, not just a certain
(39:43):
class of them, not just the elites, which is what
has happened for the last thirty forty fifty years.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Roseenbrie, where do people get you at your new gig,
your new organization that's looking for accountability. You've done all
the work for a couple of decades. Where do folks go, maam?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Immigration?
Speaker 13 (40:00):
Where the Immigration Accountability Project is at iaproject dot org.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
We're on X.
Speaker 13 (40:05):
All of our social media is linked from our website
iaproject dot org.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thank you, ma'am. You're the best. Rosemary Jenks on a
Friday morning, laying it down hard. What a warrior she is. Amazing.
Long fight, long way to go, but we're gonna win. Folks.
Just take a deep breath. We're on top of this
home title lock. Don't we need you at the ramparts.
We can't have you with somebody taking a second on
(40:33):
your home. The government already did it right with overspending
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Speaker 9 (40:54):
Next, use your who Stephen came back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
By the way, this argument is just not for the magabase.
This talks about our realignment. Like nineteen thirty two, this
goes to all Americans. Like that interview I gave this
every American citizens involved in this conversation. This is our country, right,
many of you have been here six seven generations, have
nothing to show for it. American citizens come first, The
interest of American citizens come first always. That's where this
(41:30):
debate is so important. It couldn't get Darren beat. We
had technical problem with Darren's going to join us on
Saturday show. We'll get Daring up. Then he's got a
lot to say about this topic. Dave Brat your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, it's always immigration, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Immigration always shines the light on this corruption and leaving
the American citizen behind.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
And so there's nothing new.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Oligarchs maximizing profits, all corporations maximizing profits. The way you
can always tell what's going on here is if you're
really going to put the American citizen first, right, if
you're really going to pay attention to the voters who
are moving our way, Black, brown, Hispanic, those in the
middle class of America. Why do CEOs and the oligarchs
(42:18):
only focus on engineers and stem There is no attention
paid to the third graders in Chicago who are reading
at a twelve percent literacy rate. If you care about
America and you want to put America first, there's your answer.
The reason it's easy is because between China and India
you got two point eight billion people.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
So it's a numbers game. Of course, you're going to
find some geniuses.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
If we would educate our own kids so that they
can read in the third grade and then go on
through the rest of the school we have plenty of
talent in this country. It's a disgrace. So we're doing
a We're doing a paradigm shift. Mega is a paradigm shift.
Trump is a paradigm shift. We took out the majority
leader with your helping Breitbart twelve years ago, with Cannon
(43:01):
and all that over this issue. Immigration always cuts through
the noise. The American people can clearly see who's on
their side. When you're talking about culture, all of this
fits under justice, underneath the Judeo Christian West. These other
countries and cultures, name me a great university off the
tip of your tongue in China or India, great technical
(43:23):
education you have, blah blah blah. Let me see a
system that works over the long run. China's cracking up.
They will not have an economic system that's tied to
morality like Raheem was just talking about that's the key
to the Judeo Christian West. We're seeing a paradigm shift
like you've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
We're going to get it.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Right this time.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Elon and Vivak brilliant, smart guys, but they don't get
to profit maximize at the expense of the American citizen.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
First, Dave, where do people go to get all this
great material from you on social media? In your website?
Speaker 12 (43:59):
Yeah, just Brat Bratt economics on Getter. Great show today, unreal, fantastic.
We'll see tomorrow. Dave's gonna be my co host tomorrow
on the Saturday Show. Brett, thank you so much, thanks
for hanging around, brother Dave Brett unique voice. Remember he
defeated Eric Canner, first time majority leader in the history
of this country ever been defeating the primary day Brett
on the topic of wait for it, immigration, Raheem Cassam
(44:23):
National Pulse. You guys have been putting up incredible pieces
on this.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Gavin Wax has got a piece we'll upt in your sight,
broke it all down so people can understand exactly what
we're talking about from the math. So make sure they're
just not punitry. Where do people go for the National
Pulse brother.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Right, And that's the point, Steve. You know, this isn't
just about complaints. You know, this show takes you through
like where it all starts and how we actually get
to the solution of this. And if you want to
talk about you know, special people are the Einstein's all
of that. You're not talking about h one B. So
the whole conversation is a fraud and the face and
a scam. To begin with, we have the all school
(45:00):
brilliant article by will Upton up on the National Pulse
dot com. It's on the left sidebar in the analysis section.
People should go check it out if you want to
support our work and get more of that kind of
information out there. It's the Nationalpulse dot Com Forward slash
Warroom and I'm so grateful for everybody on the back
of yesterday's Boxing Day special if you join up the
National Pulse dot com Forward slash Warroom.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Raheem's all over this topic and quite frankly, this is
one of the reasons that German government's following. This is
the reason the French government's following. This is the reason
Niger frag historically, the reform a movement. Yesterday went over
collapse centories and now the Reform Party has been around
for a year or two has now have more members
than the Tory Party. We'll talk about that tomorrow with Raheem. Raheem,
(45:46):
thank you for coming on. Thank you for the pieces.
Everybody go to National Pulse check out detailed analytical pieces.
Gavin wax But one of the leaders of this movement,
have a piece up in a while. Thank you, brother, Yes,
thank you. What a fight. It's a fight. You got
to get a stick up for this thing, right. American citizens, first,
I don't care if you're African, American, Hispanic, white, if
(46:08):
you're if you're, if you, if you if you're American citizen,
comes from India, it's not a problem. It's not a problem.
You're an American citizen. This about an American citizen. This
is about our sovereignty. And Laura Loomer is absolutely correct.
We can't see this ground to anyone. This is the
ground we're going to find because we're a country, not
an economy. Mike Lindell speaking of economy and I R
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