December 31, 2024 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 31ST, 2024
SEAN SPICER
BATYA UNGAR-SARGON
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Elon Musk and vivekrom Aswami, the tech overlords who appear
to be running Trump's second term agenda, rely on highly
skilled immigrants to power their enterprises. Those immigrants come to
this country to work with an H one B visa,
which provides terms that are extremely favorable to the employers
and also an amazing opportunity for the folks coming to
work here. Folks basically have to stay at their job
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in order to stay in the country. If they leave
their position, they have two months to find a new
job or risk getting deported. So you can see why
someone like Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Likes them so much.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
For example, this is not abstract. When Musk bought Twitter
and a huge percentage of the staff ahead of the exits,
Vice News report on how Twitter employees on visas can't
just quit. On the other side of the debate over
the H one B visa is the one that folks
like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing for
years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all immigration
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in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of the
border around aside them, but also H.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
One B visas.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannen's
old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is
before Trump was even the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Take a list, and they see these oligarchs down there
with fifty four private jets, and they're not down there
for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and
it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement
because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating
heart of this problem right now? The real beating heart
of it of what we've got to get sorted here
is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and
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it's horrific, and don't only have a problem. We've looked
the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of
overwhelmed the country.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The history of America is that an immigration on period
is followed by an immigration off period.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So see be very clear there, right, H one B
visas legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have
a pretty clear vision.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Miller's going to be the one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Writing that border bill.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So those two.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Factions of the Republican Party with pretty profoundly different views
are at each other's throats about what to do with
their newfound power. Should they use the legal immigration system
to continue supplying Silicon Valley and other industries with highly
skilled workers, or should they apply some new racist immigrant
exclusion act like the Chinese Exclusion Act to deport all
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those workers and let their let Americans take their jobs
defense in the former argument that is continuing H one
B Visas. Elon Musk spent his Christmas week absolutely melting
down on the social media platform he owns. He has
since deleted many of those posts, including one that replied
approvingly to a post calling American burned workers in general
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a slur the RT word for being too stupid to
be able to do the jobs that workers on H
one B visas were doing. One emblematic post is still
up where must tells opponents of H one B visas
to f themselves before pledging to go to war on
this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.
Although he seems to have underestimated how much the MAGA
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diehards hate immigration is online.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Base of right wing.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Troles quickly turned on hymns for and dimedal likes have
Ben And as well as Laura Luhmer, the fringe for
a right activists who spent much of the fall cozying
up to Trump before his campaign stepped in and pushed
her aside.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's not a civil war because they're not tough enough.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros, Elon
Musk or Peter Chile.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
It doesn't matter what side of.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
The political aisle a billionaire is on. I don't think
that it's acceptable for billionaires to have this much power,
in this much access.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
On the policy dispute here, and there is a real one.
Trump actually took Himuth's side on it, coming out in
support of H one B visas in Commonson, New York
Post quote, I have many H one B visas on
my properties. I've been a believer in H one B.
I've used it many times. It's a great program. Now
I have to say, I think Trump might be confused here.
I don't think his properties are hiring a ton of,
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say like software engineers, off H one B as. In
New York Times reports, Trump has been a frequent and
long time user of the similarly named but starkly different
two visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners
and housekeepers. Of course, you can drive yourself crazy. Do
try to track transposition on anything at an aging movement.
In twenty sixteen, of course, he called for guess what
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the H one b to be banned.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval in
these people. You not got a free shot. And all
these networks lying about the people, the people have had
a belly full of it. I know you don't like
hearing that. I know you tried to do everything in
the world to stop there, but you're not going to
stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
If that answer is to save my country.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
This country will be saved. Worry. Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Bah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's Tuesday, thirty one December and the year of our Lord,
twenty twenty four. That's the last time, I guess we'll
say that or the show, this morning show, it's the
last show of the year. We've got a lot planned
to get through, but we've got to get through this
first thing about immigration. I want to bring in Sean
Spice or Sean you were comms director for the White
House and the spokesman for the president, and also in
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the campaign he came into Bails Out and helped Jason
for the sprint to the end. But I first met you,
Sean when you were comms director with rights over the RNC.
In fact, spring of sixteen, we had a lot of
interaction together, commander, and you remember Breitbart Radio, my morning show,
we're talking about the exact same topic. In fact, I
think that Carl Rove, I'm not saying right you and
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Wright's instigated it, but I think that's was somehow an
rn C adjacent meeting where they all went down there
on that was the last gas for the stop Trump movement.
But what are we talking about. We're talking about H
one B visas. You remember that day, sir.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I remember very vividly getting a call saying, who is
this Steve Banning guy?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And how are we going to solve this? And that's well,
let's go meet with him because I don't think it's
going away.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And you still happened ten years later, it's been amazing
and thank you for the guy works.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's been a one heck of a wide.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, Sean. So you've been there since the beginning. Uh,
And obviously you had a job with right, So you
guys were kind of the establishment guys, but you saw
the issues that were popping up, and I know that
you went out of your way behind the scenes of
the donors say hey, look, you guys gonna understand there's
a there's a there's something happening in the country. We're here,
what eight years later, and we're having a debate about
this this very topic. Now you have your own show,
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you've got your own uh Twitter feed, which is huge,
You've got a big following. You did something the other day,
and walking through what you did in the heat of
this and then as he's part of it, which is
about forty eight hours ago, you decided to do something.
What was it?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, first, let me just address what you said.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I think the one thing that you and a lot
of the folks showed us is that for so long
we had heard this is how it works. Right, You
can't do anything different.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
This is the system.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
This is how And I think what Donald Trump showed
us more than.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You can fight back. You can be a fighter and win.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
And that's what I think broke the mold for so
many of us that said it's not just normal. So
what I did the other day is I heard this
discussion on about H one B visus and I put
it out there. I literally just tweeted, let's settle this
H one B visus pro I'm with Elon Khan, Bannon
is right and sixty seven percent, and it trended this way.
I made it intentionally forty eight hours because I didn't
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want it to be a flash in the pan.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I wanted people to be able to see it, digested,
share it.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Look at that thing over there, ninety two thousand, six
hundred and seventy four votes.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Is this scientific?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But is this where the people are?
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
And what I've found most interesting, Steve, wasn't just the vote,
but I read through a lot of the comments, and
what I found interesting about this issue more than anything,
is that some of the commentary that you have shared
goes back to my original comment. For so long, we've
been told we need each one be visus because Americans
can't fill this, and we've been just given a blanket excuse.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This is how things are done. Fuck it up right.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What I read through a lot of the comments and
through a lot of the commentary that you're putting out,
there is no there is a different way that you
don't have.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
To just accept the status quo.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
These guys created this problem and now they want everyone
to bail them out. Right, so we can train Americans,
we can reprioritize putting Americans in these problems, that we
shouldn't just accept the status quo because they say so.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Sean, given the new coalition we've putten together, and obviously
is the early days of that. You know, we did
it in sixteen a little bit, but much more in
twenty four we have African American males now coming to
the forefront, either not voting for Democrats and or sometimes
voting for President Trump. And you have Hispanics in record numbers.
Think over fidgious out of the Hispanic vote the last
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time on MSMEBC when they say, hey, we kind of
like what Bannon is saying, but we know they are racists.
At the end of the day, these guys are all racists,
and they refuse to talk about the Hispanic and African
American I mean Isn't that what this is really about.
It's about American citizens, regardless of your race or ethnicity.
You deserve a shot at these jobs, and you're not
dumber or lasier than people as guys are saying that,
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we actually have plenty of people that could step in
and fill those because they're not bringing over the Einstein's
that's obvious, right. Do you think that gets us pass
this racism charge.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
No, because they can't admit that they're wrong. That's the problem.
And again this goes back to the first thing I
said about the status quo. We force people into a
four year college education because we tell them that's the
smart thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So they get a degree in gender studies, make fifteen grand.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
A year, and never pay back their loan and hope
that the government forgives it instead of saying, hey, there
are these trade schools where you can learn a skill.
You can learn to be an engineer, you can learn
to work on computers. The system is screwed up, and
the problem is is that our leaders tell us there's
only one way to do things. And what I think,
more than anything we've learned over the last eight years,
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if not ten, is that there are better ways, more
common sense solutions, and we don't have to suck it
up if we're willing to fight back, if we're willing
to say this isn't the only way, that there are
other avenues to pursue this, that if you're not going
to change, we'll get rid of you.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Then you know.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I think that to me is the message over and
over again. We've learned that we can win. We don't
have to accept the status quo. I mean, I think
about all these fights, these people saying Pete Exeth isn't qualified.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The guy's got what three bronze stars degrees from Princeton
and Harvard, served in Gitmo, Afghanistan, Iraq, and somehow because
he didn't wear a star on his shoulders, he's not qualified.
He didn't work in the defense industrial complex, he's not qualified.
Tell me how Dennis McDonough, Obama's VA secretary, who's never
served in the military, never worked for a veteran.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Service organization, is qualified.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
We've got to remember that we've been shown a roadmap
on how to fight and win, and if we'll follow it,
we will be more and more successful. The problem, I
think the best thing that ever happened to Donald Trump.
I hate to say this is not taking office in
twenty twenty because for forty years we've been able to
get the people.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The process and the policy. He's right to think about them.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
And when he comes back in on January first, the
American people better have their head on a swivel because
it's going to go around like this over and over
and over again, because he is going to crush the establishment.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
At sixty seven thirty three and it held pretty tight,
and ninety two thousand we tracked these that's a massive
amount of people. Remember, you're restricted, you only vote want
So it's not like somebody sat there or in the
intensity that comments as far as actionable because as a
director and information guy, you're always talking to me about
actionable information. What is the actual information that this represents?
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To Sean Spicer, as you see this, what do you
think should be done with this?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So if I were a tech leader, right, I'd go
out and say, guys, the American people aren't with us anymore,
kind of the same way that corporate America lost the
American people, Right, So I would go back and I
would say, all right, we need to do things to
help American citizens take these jobs. What can we show
that we're willing to man up and do We're going
to establish scholarship, so we're going to establish training programs.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But they need to have skin in the game.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
They can't just bypass American citizens get the cheap labor.
As you pointed out for these comments and even that
Chris Hayes's clip that you played, this is indentured certitude
for these folks. They come over and they're trapped in
a job. How's that any different just because they're making
a few more bucks. They have no ability to say
or do anything. Are you going to speak up at
your job if something's going wrong, if you know that
your visa is tied to your ability to stay in
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the country.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
So what I think these tech companies need to.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Do is show immediately that they're willing to skin in
the game when it comes to putting American people first,
whether that's scholarship, training programs, stem, you know, things.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But they've got to do more.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
They can't just sit back and say, oh, sorry, this
is the way it is, and we need this labor.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Sean, where do people get the show? Where do they
go to get your social media.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Shawn Spicer dot com is everything.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
My show airs every night at six o'clock on my
YouTube channel. Sean just go to Shawn Spicer six pm
every night. I appreciate you coming on and anything on
Twitter on exits Sean Spicer. So thank you Steve for
calling us.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Out now, Sean, we're going to have any lucky in
getting you into these Are we going to get you
into any lucky getting you into the second term?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Can we break some news here? I'll tell you what
if you go, I go, Commander. Happy New Year, Commander Spicy,
thanks for having me on you bet, thank you. Robert
Shaw Corral will take us out here on New Year's
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Eve here in the War room, very special guest Batya
Unger Sargon is going to join us next to talk
about the plight of the American working man and woman
when the entire system is rigged against him. Short commercial
break back in the war in just a moment, saying no.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
To the selling out of the future of their children.
And it is so dispiriting to see this coming from
the so called right. And I think you nailed it, Rachel.
These people do not believe in national borders. They don't
know what a nation is. They don't know what it
means to feel a sense of obligation, not just to
our fellow Americans, because they are fellow Americans, but to
people who have less than you. What happened to no
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bless obligee? Elon Muski, you are the richest man in
the world.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You can't have a little bit.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Of respect for the country and the people in it
and the working class of the nation that gave you
that privilege.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
You have no.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
Respect for the God who gave you that privilege. It
is so utterly infuriating, and I'm so grateful to you
and to patriots Steve Bannon, our national hero, for towing
the line and holding the line on this and saying no, no,
we will not sit here and cheer as they take
good jobs away from Americans and give them to other people.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
And so what is the answer?
Speaker 9 (15:57):
I mean, I think about this.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
If we keep.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Importing foreign labor to meet this demand, if we keep,
as you said, driving the wages down, we don't want
to get to the root of the problem.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
If Eveig is right that you.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
Know we need more, we need more people, which I'm
not entirely convinced that that that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That is the case.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
We also could set up programs in inner cities to
prepare them to code and do these are entry level jobs.
Let's not pretend like these are. A lot of these
are super super high tech. Some of them are entry
level and people can be trained into them. But that
would require the oligarchs, to the Titans of the universe,
to take less money and invest in this. For our
government to invest in those kinds of programs.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
You're totally right, And think of the irony here, Rachel.
They shipped all their good manufacturing jobs overseas and said
we'll teach them to code. Now it turns out no, actually,
we're going to import people to do the coding right exactly.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
So I want to end on what I think is
a positive note because what I see is left and
right coming together in this Why don't we talk about
that a little bit cause I think it's a really
positive thing.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh absolutely, I mean, this moment revealed that the divide
in this country is not left versus right, and it's
certainly not God forbid racial. It is the multi racial,
multi ethnic working class coalition coming together and taking on
the oligarchs. Both the over credentialed college elites and the
oligarchs of Silicon Valley and saying we're going to stand together, Black, White, Hispanic, Jewish,
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Asian working class Americans are going to stand together for
the future of their children.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Yeah, I'm really glad that you came, and I have
to tell you, I think this debate that's going on
is incredibly important, and I'm glad we're having it, and
I'm glad and I'm grateful to Elon Musk that it's
happening on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Rachel Duffy, one of the smartest stuff folks over at
Fox with our guests, the author of Second Class, and
boy is she Naila. We know the audience will have
the book Second Class, how the elites portrayed America's working
men and women. Batia Unger Sargon, talk to me for
a moment about this left and right coming together, because
you're one hundred percent correct. This is about American citizens
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in MSMEC last night. Couldn't get over there. So well.
We do agree with Bannon on this populism, but we
know he's a racist, and we know they're all white nationalists.
This is a true coming together of the populist movement
of both left and right. To defend American citizens, is
it not, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Christ of all, thank you so much for having me.
It is such an honor to be here with you.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
They literally put you in prison because you were revealing
the truth, which is that the divide in this country
is not racial. It's between the elites and the multi
racial working class, who all want better jobs for their children,
all want a future in this country that reflects them
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and their values and their hard work. And what the
left does and now the tech pro right as well,
is they try to racialize this to hide the fact
that this is about citizenship. It is supposed to mean
something to be an American citizen. And this is something
that working class people of all races intuitively understand, and
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it is something that the oligarchs on both sides not
only do they not understand it, mister Bannon, but they
have invested everything in erasing the concept of citizenship, erasing
the concept of a nation state and national borders. Why
because they have gotten very, very very rich doing that.
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And that is the whole game here. It was the
game when the left was calling working class people of
all races racist because they want a future for their children,
and it's the whole game. When Elon Musk and vive
Bramaswami say that they're too lazy and stupid, yes, they
said that to your faces. It's the whole game. And
you have been on this from day one, mister Bannon.
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You are a national hero and a patriot who taught
me what a real story in this country is.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
How can they get how can they continue to get
away with this? This what's confusing to me. And you know,
Elon retweeted, somebody called American workers retarded the ves just
basically you could see the underpinnings of the hatred of
the American people right there. But how can they get
away with all?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Night?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Last time seeing in an MSNBC highly skilled foreign workers,
highly skilled foreign workers, Americans are not qualified to do
these jobs when we know from the evidence in the facts,
these are principally entry level jobs. We've asked them, We've
asked the millions that have come in here on these
visas show us one example, one example where an American
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tech worker didn't have the qualifications to do that job.
We have yet to get an answer on one of
the millions that have come here over the twenty to
thirty years of this program. But how can they continue
to sell the fact that Americans either not qualified, these
are highly qualified foreigners are coming over, or Americans don't
want the jobs and the jobs are going open, which
both are bald face lies, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
They can continue to sell it because there is an
elite in this country that is very, very hungry to
buy it because it puts money in their pockets. So,
if you have a college degree, you're in that knowledge industry,
and you are the consumer of working class or middle
class labor, of course you want an open border because
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it puts money in your pocket. Of Course you want
to ship manufacturing overseas because then when you buy things,
you can.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Buy cheap stuff.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
And guess what else, when you go to compete in
the housing market, suddenly there's a lot less competition because
the top twenty percent is controlling over fifty percent of
the GDP, which means that you're no longer competing with
your cleaning lady or your landscaper when it comes to.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Buying a home.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Suddenly it's much easier for you to achieve the American
dream while you are consuming the labor of an American
who can no longer afford that American dream. We used
to believe that this was our god given right, Our
rights in this country are guaranteed by God, and that
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that is something that means something that binds us together
as citizens of this great nation culturally and economically and socially.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
And of course this is not about race.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
This is something that binds Americans of all races together.
But the oligarchs on the left, the over credentilled college elites,
and now the tech bro rights, these people don't believe
in these things because to destroy the concept of the
nation is to put millions and billions.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Of dollars back in their pockets.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
You know, they're always saying that mass immigration raises the GDP.
Of course it raises the GDP. It makes oligarch's unbelievably
wealthy to have a limitless supply of low wage, indentured servitude.
The problem is is that it makes Americans much poorer.
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And what you have done, mister Bannon, is given voice
to the masses who did not have a voice to
object when there was a handshake agreement pre Trump between
both parties to further destroy the border, ship jobs overseas
and import a slave cast who are indentured servants or
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enslaved to cartels to do lowage and working class and
middle class jobs. Here, it's the whole game. They are
getting rich off of the working class. It is class
warfare from the top, from the elites on both sides
against the multi racial working class coalition.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did you find this out? Give me a minute before
we go to break on Second Class, because your book, well,
we had you on here, the audience loved it. But
you've been working on this for years? How did you
get the idea? Just tell me the idea? First was
second Class? How the elites portrayed America's working men and women?
How'd you come up with the whole concept of it.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I had started to notice that the real divide in
this country was not racial, and was not.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Between even left versus right.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I was doing a lot of reporting from the South
during the first Trump era, and I had gone into
that reporting as a woke leftist, and I was expecting
that I was going to find all of this racism.
And what did I find the exact opposite, That the
demand for instances of racism in this country from the
leftist elites was totally totally superseding the actual supply, and
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I was really shocked by this, and I started to
think about, well, how come I am so shocked by this, Like,
how come I was under the illusion that this was
still a white supremacist country and that everybody who voted
for the other party than I did was a white
supremacist or a racist.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
That was my first book.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
It's called Bad News, How woke Media is Undermining Democracy,
and it's about how the media, which is extremely woke,
perpetuated this myth about racism in America. And having discovered
that the real divide was not racial, and it was
really the class divide, and the reason the media was
so biased against Republicans was because the Republican Party was
becoming the working class party. I then started to uncover
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this class divide, and I wanted to write a book
about that. I wanted to allow working class people, in
their own voices, to talk about the struggle for dignity
in a country where the Democrats had created an economy
that was an upward funnel of wealth from the middle
class into the pockets of the elites.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
And so I traveled around the country for a year.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
I interviewed working class people of all races who vote
for both parties, and I found that there was a
lot of consensus and unity among these people. And of course,
what you know and what all of your viewers know,
which is that this is the greatest country on Earth.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
And we have to fight, fight, fight to keep it
that way.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And the greatest resource of the greatest country on Earth,
it's its people in their struggle for dignity. Work with dignity.
Short commercial break, The Dublin Woman's Choir is going to
take us out with old lang Zion. We're going to
be back in a moment with our guests Batya Unger
Sargon here on a New Year's Eve, the last day
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of twenty twenty four. What a year. Short break back
in a.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Moment over the one be visa is the one that
(27:02):
folks like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing
for years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all
immigration in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of
the border around asylum, but also h one b visas.
I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannon's
old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is
before Trump was even the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Take a list and they see these oligarchs down there
with fifty four private jets and they're not down there
for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and
it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement
because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating
heart of this problem right now, The real beating heart
of it of what we've got to get sorted here
is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and
(27:45):
it's horrific. It don't only have a problem. We've looked
the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of
overwhelmed the country.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The history of America is that an immigration on period
is followed by an immigration off period.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So see be very clear, right H one B visa's
legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have a
pretty clear vision. Miller's gonna be the one writing that
border bill.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
We have a very clear vision. For folks who have
just come to this show of the last year or
a couple of years, this has been a I don't know,
ten twelve year project. The years of fifteen and sixteen
were trench warfare, and fourteen with with Dave Bratt coming on,
seeing the huge victory. We had taken now Cantrick, we
(28:30):
could walk you through. And Steven Miller, who had been
on Michelle Bachmann's staff and then went to Jeff Sessions,
and Jeff Session kind of held the line in the Senate.
But so when when people like David Sachson and Elon
Musk and Vivic Ramaswami show up, Dude, I've taken down
(28:50):
bigger guys than that a decade ago. Okay, you think
the odds odds along against these guys, or the odds
arelong against Biden you ssually seeing the odds against Trump
at the beginning. That was an event. I was doing
Breitbart News Radio meeting of the audience. That was really
a call in show. I mainly took calls. I would
have guests like Stephen Miller, something big came up. Principally
(29:13):
we would have a big calling over a serious ExM
as a morning show six to nine. We that was
a group of Carl Rove and I used the term
oligarchs and people, but what are you talking about? They all,
I think it was fifty four of them got together
in an I think it was an island off of
South Carolina to have an emergency meeting in March of
(29:39):
how did they stop Trump? Trump was running the tables
and I think he had just won Super Tuesday. How
to stop Trump? With with these uh primaries that were left?
How to stop Trump? And how I put as much
money as possible. And the issue, one of the big
issues was H one B visus because I said, but look,
(30:00):
it's it's immigration overall. What Biden did is so radical,
was to crush, to try to defeat inflation, to crush
the relatively low skilled or unskilled workers African American and
principally Hispanic by allowing I don't know, eight ten, twelve, fourteen, fifteen,
(30:20):
you picked the number millions and millions of millions of people.
And now they argue it's bought. You just told you, well,
it added one percent to the GDP because they're taking
all their money and buying doritos. They'll always come up
with another line. But back then it was the same issue,
H one B visus. And remember we do have a
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clear vision. It's total immigration. I'm again right now, I
say we must demand a moratorium, all all immigration, all
the students, everything, a moratorium. We just got to settle
down and figure this thing out because the system's been
gained for decades and decades and decades. And who pays
(31:02):
the price? Who pays the price? The American citizen? Do
you not have enough on your shoulders? Is the anxiety
not enough?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's yesterday? What have I been saying on here? Credit
cards at one point two trillion dollars face amount the
credit card companies just wrote off last quarter. I think
seventy eight billion dollars. My numbers correct up fourteen percent
on write else a credit card non performing the highest sense.
I'm a thought of random date, the highest sense. Wait
(31:33):
for a random date. You're waiting for it, You're ready
for it. Two thousand and eight. Is that date ring
a bell? Because that's the beginning of the collapse of
the elites in this country, the financial collapse that they
manufactured and they made a fortune off of. And then
because the most progressive and hey, Bush got us into this.
He's the worst president this country has had since Buchanan.
(31:55):
Jimmy Carter, God rest his soul, and he'll have his
state funeral next week. Jimmy Carter in the top five.
But you got to throw Biden, and you've got to
put Bush right there in back of Buchanan, Okay, two
thousand and eight crash. But Obama, the most progressive, the
most progressive president in history, did the most neoliberal bailout,
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bailout the elites. The greatest concentration of wealth happened on
that watch of how they bailed it out and how
they destroyed the working class of middle class. And we
have never recovered from that. Even Trump's kind of three
Golden years of really seventeen eighteen ninety, particularly eighteen and
nineteen partially recovered, but not fully. A long way from fully,
but at least it was the start. So this fight
(32:39):
has gone on because the elites in this country that
have control, they always want to go to where they
want to crush labor, whether they allow fifteen million illegal
aliens to come here to compete against African Americans in
blacks at the lower end of the of the skill set,
or whether they the private equity and venture capitalists and
(33:02):
hedge fund guys ship the manufacturing jobs over to China,
so L'albaijing can work as slave labors under the dictatory
regime of the Chinese Commuist Party and ship all your
manufacturing jobs over there. So as Batia said, you can
buy cheaper stuff here, or if they can't outsource it,
they'll just bring them here and lie to you, bald face, lie,
(33:23):
here's what we at least a lie. It would like
enough respect to let's have a debate. Let's have a debate.
Be upfront about it. You want lower wages. I got it.
You want lower wages because you get higher margins. And
remember most of these kind of what I call these
companies are algorithm companies. Right if you get those guys
at a third lesson that. Yesterday us tech workers walked
(33:45):
us through the number, and Will Upton walked us through
the number. It's about your cutting off a third to
forty percent of labor cost. I get it. I went
to Harvard Business School, I worked at Goldman. I can
do the math. I got it. That's a big that's
a higher margin. And guess what that's going to get
your high multiple in the stock market. And that means
Elon you're gonna be richer, and David Sacks you're gonna
be richer. And Vivid you're gonna be richer. Oh it's
(34:07):
a side note on all of this. I kind of
I don't need and I think as a citizen of
this country, what we don't need is white guys from
South Africa lecturing us like Peter Teo and David Sacks
and Elon Musk. We don't need white guys from South
Africa lecturing us on how the way things should be.
(34:31):
Let me be blunt about that. I don't think that
country's got the greatest track record on Earth. Okay, we've
gone through a number of struggles ourselves, but we walked
them through. Okay, not perfect, far from perfect. But I
don't need guys from South Africa telling us the way
the social order in this country is. And they particularly
don't need a South African telling me that the people
(34:52):
in the United States, the workforce is retarded. Okay, don't
need that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
The good news is, and you see the fight all
the way back to there where they couldn't stop Trump,
didn't stop Trump. They tried to pull out every stop.
The good news is, you know they talked a big game.
Oh they're going to fight to the ends of the earth.
This is so important. Remember they start off with H
one B. Visus has made all his companies in the
Rocket Company, and all these companies have made them and
(35:18):
I will fight to the you. I will show you
types of warfare that you can't even comprehend after I
f you in the face, to which I said, yo, child,
Protective Services. Can you have a wellness check on this toddler? Dude,
you have no earthy idea how to fight. What they're
doing now is spamming like the Twitter feed and you know,
(35:40):
and suppressing air tour feed. Dude, We're banned everywhere and
the show's bigger than every and we just took you
on and ripped your face off. So I don't care
what you do on Twitter. It doesn't matter, does not matter.
Bring everything you've got, okay, because we're not going to
lose this fight. You've already surrendered after two Oh oh, well,
you know it needs reflect Well at first you told
(36:01):
me it was great and now all the tech companies
depend upon it. It was the most perfect thing. Then an
hour later it's it's it needs reform. And here's what
we need to do. We need to pay this higher
and Theresa A no, that's all a lie, and we're
not buying it anymore. You can lie and spin other people,
you ain't spending us. Here's here's what we demand doze, doze.
(36:23):
The first thing at the top of your list. We
want the complete eradication of this program, all of it,
not some of it, not, reform some of it, all
of it. Get rid of it. It's a blight upon
the American people. And somebody said, well, Steve, why do
you put you know, we've got to be together. No,
this is about the direction of our country, and this
(36:44):
is central to it. Either citizenship means something or it doesn't.
And the one way did you get to mean something
is to stop bringing the world into people's homes, into
people's own nation that they have held build and generations
of their families have helped build, and helped defend and
fight for and pay taxes for and be the little
(37:08):
platoons to build the civic society, and they got nothing
to show for it. After five or six or seven generations.
You just got this anxiety. What hamms have it? Get
laid off? And we know the suppressing wages that they're
suppressing wages by taking the jobs of China. They're suppressing
wages by outsourcing jobs, the more marketing and telephonic jobs,
(37:30):
and what they can't do there, they're going to bring
them here. They're gonna get up in your grill. Why
do you think Trump won. Why do you think blacks
and Hispanics voting for them? Because they look around their
cities they go, hey, I finally got the joke they're
coming from me. Think of how brutal and how nasty
the elites in this country are they would allow and
(37:54):
actually organize because this is all very organized. It's all
very organized. Ten to fifteen million illegal alien innovators that
come into this country take jobs from the folks that
have the least skills in this country. Think about that
for a second. And here, if you've gone to engineering school,
you're gone. You try to get they're gonna import on
(38:16):
a ball faced lie, higher skilled foreign workers, high skilled
foreign workers. The skills are not any different than American citizens.
And don't sit there and lie. You can't fill those spots.
You go out of your way. You go out of
your way to gun deck the entire thing. So you
can do that because they're more compliant. The reason they
got to be compliant in twenty first century America, we
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have indentured servitude as much as that was a scar
in the country in the nineteenth century, and we're doing
it here. In front of your eyes, and we have
baionnaires that are worth a fortune. They're gonna sit there
and look at you. Oh, you're a liar. Show enough
respect for the citizens country to just be honest. Let's
(38:59):
have a debate. We want lower wages. I got that.
I understand it. It's not going to happen, but I
understand it. But do not sit there and play us
for fools, because we've only just started to fight. Okay,
somebody gave me a compliment the other day in some article.
(39:21):
They said, this guy's a thug, but he wins at
any cost. I don't care what you call me. Okay,
but we're not going to lose this fight. We want
to complete e visceration, eradication of this entire program. One two,
we want everybody here, one of these visas deported immediately.
As soon as you deport these fifteen years in the
(39:43):
same time, Frank home and get a ticket for him, boom,
send them home. In immediate hiring of American citizens, regardless
of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, to fill those jobs that
American citizens should have. And then yes, yes, we need
to sit down with the companies, the private equity companies,
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the owners and have a discussion. Well, hang on for
a second. You did this for decades and you stole
people's futures. Look how many white men look at a
black men look at me? Spanning men or not in
the workforce? Was it fifty or sixty or seventy million
(40:26):
in the prime years of their lives? Do you understand
how this eats away at the soul. You are cruel
and you are barbaric, and we are not going to
tolerate it. I have not yet begun to fight. Okay,
and if you guys want to continue on, we will
(40:48):
beat you into submission. Short break. Stephen k bam so
bot you. And by the way, we're calling for we
(41:08):
know this student program visa, there's all of these are scams.
They're all scams. The student visa program scam. You get
other programs here, there's dozens of they're trying to game
the system against you, against you, and we're going to
deconstruct it all. We want a one thousand percent total
(41:29):
and complete more torment all lead quote unquote legal it's
not legal immigration. Do you think the H one B
visa is legal? It's not legal. It's a scam. It's
a one hundred percent scam. Please, we've begging you guys.
Show me the excellence. Show me how these people, these
skilled foreign workers, the highly skilled foreign workers that you
(41:50):
bring over here as essentially slave labor into the country
and pay them nothing. And they got to be compliant
to work one hundred hours a week because if they
don't say any then you're gonna ship them back. And
they got a shot if they keep their head down
to get a green car to get through the golden
door and then have chain migration. This is how purely
evil you are. You are evil. So don't sit there,
(42:12):
unctious and lecture us the South Africans. You're gonna lecture
us not didn't not enough evil come out of South Africa, sirs? Yeah,
I went there because I'm not going to tolerate. This
is the United States of America. We're not gonna be
lectured by a bunch of white guys from South Africa.
Don't need it, you unctious. Yesterday you had a defender
(42:36):
on here. She was fantastic, Alison Wynn, who knows you classy,
very smart Stanford knows Elon brillyant guy, smart guy. You
know he's going to colonize the Mars. That's a complicated
engineering project, and he is quite a brilliant engineer. You
one might argue he's not Tesla at that level, but
(42:58):
he's Edison at another level. Okay, that's a pretty good compliment.
We've had I don't know one or two of those
in the history of this republic. We got one there.
But you know what, you know what, if you can
work out the mathematical formulas in the engineering a complexity
of sending a colony of human beings to Mars and
(43:20):
keep them alive, you can work through the math on this.
And you know it's a bald face lie. And here's
I know you know it's a bald face lie because
you cratered as soon as we got up in your grill.
Oh okay, fine, well I won't fight to the death.
I'm not going to fight to the death in charl
kind of new times for warfare. Why don't we reform?
We need reform? And you go to some bs answering
(43:41):
you think we're going to buy that. Where did you
come from?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Here's what you need to do. You need to study
modern political history of the fights we've been through for
twelve or fourteen years to get to this spot. You
think this just cause people just wandering around. People have
worked for over a deck, pounding this, pounding this, pounding this.
And that's how relentless the established order is. Because Bacia
(44:09):
told you, they're making a lot of money and they
have control. And this is about money and powers, not
about race. It's not about gender, it's not about ethnicity,
it's not about religion. That's what they want you to
believe it is. So you're like a bucket of crabs
at each other's throat. It's not about that's about money
and power. And Carl Ro's gonna get his fifty four
(44:30):
big donors down there. They're gonna figure out how to
stop Trump or how to compromise it. And they will
use Ted Cruz, they'll use Little Marco, or they'll use
Jeb Bush, or they don't care who they use. They'll
throw up some chopped block. They'll misdirect you and look
at this and that there's some racism over there, you
white folks, go look at that. That's a Fox specialty.
(44:52):
We don't fall for that. So I don't think you're
gonna come back and oh, you know, well, what we
need to do is increase it here and cut that car.
They screw you, you clown, and then you got to
suppress us over there. I don't know black listening, whatever
they're doing to I don't care what they do on Twitter.
I could care less. And we're banned on every platform
in the world. And this show is one of the
(45:14):
most powerful in the world. Why is that Because the
content of the show resonates with the most powerful audience
in the world, working men and women that happen to
be citizens of this great republic. This is a defining movie,
he says. Some of the people say, oh, Steve, you
(45:35):
gotta we gotta have a group hug. You can't do
this and let the Democrats. No, no, we're not having
group hugs. We're not having pats on the head. You
got to get this straight. First off, you got to
get hey. I've said many times that Elon came and
Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his
(45:57):
engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we
saw it, and he supported it. And for that he
gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should.
It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not
an entire cycle in five months. But that dinner with
Sacks and that check from Elon came at Biden's you
(46:18):
know when Biden, you know, in the debate, right before
the debate and Biden, you know, they kind of saw
the numbers where this thing was heading. They're recent converts,
and we love converts. Hell, I'm I'm a Catholic. We
used to be in the convert business. Not so much anymore.
We can't keep what we got. But in the old days,
you know, half the Saints are missionaries. We loving converts.
(46:43):
But the converts sit in the back and study for
years and years and years and make sure you understand
the faith, and you understand the nuances of the faith
and understand how you can internalize the faith. Don't come
up and go to the pulpit in your first week
here and start lecturing people about the way things are.
If you're gonna do that, we're gonna get and we're
gonna rip your face off because you can't beat us.
(47:09):
We're not beatable. This army the Awakens not beatable because
we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will
never slow down. And yes, if you go low, we'll
go to the center of the earth because we're fighting
for something that means something. We have a meaning in this.
(47:30):
This is why people watch the show. This is why
people come to this show and all this great content
people provide us. And Ben Berkwom's down now, putting his
life in danger again. Why did people do this? Why
have they done this for years? Why they do it
for years? At Breitbart? Why did when Trump started appearing
in thirteen or fourteen we said, that's the guy. Why
was it because it had been a struggle before that.
(47:55):
We're not we didn't come in here in June, and
we're not saying oh, just because you came late. No,
you can be part of this, but you're not gonna
sit here and lie to us, to our face and
expect us say, oh, because you're worth five hundred billion dollars.
You people that are taking money, take money. I don't
care bow down in Cowtown. I don't care. I could
(48:17):
care less. I'm a crazy, fricking irishman and I will
never I didn't Cowtown on Nancy PELUSI put me in
a federal prison for foremance, and I didn't care spitting
their face when I went in, I spitting their eye
when I came out. I literally do not care. And
that is the first step in the path the victory.
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One hundred percent moratorium on all immigration until we get
this thing sorted and we can go through the lies
of this legal immigration for decades and decades and decades.
Short break
Elon Musk and vivekrom Aswami, the tech overlords who appear
to be running Trump's second term agenda, rely on highly
skilled immigrants to power their enterprises. Those immigrants come to
this country to work with an H one B visa,
which provides terms that are extremely favorable to the employers
and also an amazing opportunity for the folks coming to
work here. Folks basically have to stay at their job
(00:21):
in order to stay in the country. If they leave
their position, they have two months to find a new
job or risk getting deported. So you can see why
someone like Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Likes them so much.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
For example, this is not abstract. When Musk bought Twitter
and a huge percentage of the staff ahead of the exits,
Vice News report on how Twitter employees on visas can't
just quit. On the other side of the debate over
the H one B visa is the one that folks
like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing for
years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all immigration
(00:55):
in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of the
border around aside them, but also H.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
One B visas.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannen's
old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is
before Trump was even the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Take a list, and they see these oligarchs down there
with fifty four private jets, and they're not down there
for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and
it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement
because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating
heart of this problem right now? The real beating heart
of it of what we've got to get sorted here
is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and
(01:31):
it's horrific, and don't only have a problem. We've looked
the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of
overwhelmed the country.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The history of America is that an immigration on period
is followed by an immigration off period.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So see be very clear there, right, H one B
visas legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have
a pretty clear vision.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Miller's going to be the one.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Writing that border bill.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So those two.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Factions of the Republican Party with pretty profoundly different views
are at each other's throats about what to do with
their newfound power. Should they use the legal immigration system
to continue supplying Silicon Valley and other industries with highly
skilled workers, or should they apply some new racist immigrant
exclusion act like the Chinese Exclusion Act to deport all
(02:14):
those workers and let their let Americans take their jobs
defense in the former argument that is continuing H one
B Visas. Elon Musk spent his Christmas week absolutely melting
down on the social media platform he owns. He has
since deleted many of those posts, including one that replied
approvingly to a post calling American burned workers in general
(02:35):
a slur the RT word for being too stupid to
be able to do the jobs that workers on H
one B visas were doing. One emblematic post is still
up where must tells opponents of H one B visas
to f themselves before pledging to go to war on
this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.
Although he seems to have underestimated how much the MAGA
(02:55):
diehards hate immigration is online.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Base of right wing.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Troles quickly turned on hymns for and dimedal likes have
Ben And as well as Laura Luhmer, the fringe for
a right activists who spent much of the fall cozying
up to Trump before his campaign stepped in and pushed
her aside.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's not a civil war because they're not tough enough.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros, Elon
Musk or Peter Chile.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
It doesn't matter what side of.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
The political aisle a billionaire is on. I don't think
that it's acceptable for billionaires to have this much power,
in this much access.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
On the policy dispute here, and there is a real one.
Trump actually took Himuth's side on it, coming out in
support of H one B visas in Commonson, New York
Post quote, I have many H one B visas on
my properties. I've been a believer in H one B.
I've used it many times. It's a great program. Now
I have to say, I think Trump might be confused here.
I don't think his properties are hiring a ton of,
(03:51):
say like software engineers, off H one B as. In
New York Times reports, Trump has been a frequent and
long time user of the similarly named but starkly different
two visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners
and housekeepers. Of course, you can drive yourself crazy. Do
try to track transposition on anything at an aging movement.
In twenty sixteen, of course, he called for guess what
(04:13):
the H one b to be banned.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval in
these people. You not got a free shot. And all
these networks lying about the people, the people have had
a belly full of it. I know you don't like
hearing that. I know you tried to do everything in
the world to stop there, but you're not going to
stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
If that answer is to save my country.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
This country will be saved. Worry. Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Bah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's Tuesday, thirty one December and the year of our Lord,
twenty twenty four. That's the last time, I guess we'll
say that or the show, this morning show, it's the
last show of the year. We've got a lot planned
to get through, but we've got to get through this
first thing about immigration. I want to bring in Sean
Spice or Sean you were comms director for the White
House and the spokesman for the president, and also in
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the campaign he came into Bails Out and helped Jason
for the sprint to the end. But I first met you,
Sean when you were comms director with rights over the RNC.
In fact, spring of sixteen, we had a lot of
interaction together, commander, and you remember Breitbart Radio, my morning show,
we're talking about the exact same topic. In fact, I
think that Carl Rove, I'm not saying right you and
(05:51):
Wright's instigated it, but I think that's was somehow an
rn C adjacent meeting where they all went down there
on that was the last gas for the stop Trump movement.
But what are we talking about. We're talking about H
one B visas. You remember that day, sir.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I remember very vividly getting a call saying, who is
this Steve Banning guy?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And how are we going to solve this? And that's well,
let's go meet with him because I don't think it's
going away.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And you still happened ten years later, it's been amazing
and thank you for the guy works.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's been a one heck of a wide.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, Sean. So you've been there since the beginning. Uh,
And obviously you had a job with right, So you
guys were kind of the establishment guys, but you saw
the issues that were popping up, and I know that
you went out of your way behind the scenes of
the donors say hey, look, you guys gonna understand there's
a there's a there's something happening in the country. We're here,
what eight years later, and we're having a debate about
this this very topic. Now you have your own show,
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you've got your own uh Twitter feed, which is huge,
You've got a big following. You did something the other day,
and walking through what you did in the heat of
this and then as he's part of it, which is
about forty eight hours ago, you decided to do something.
What was it?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, first, let me just address what you said.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I think the one thing that you and a lot
of the folks showed us is that for so long
we had heard this is how it works. Right, You
can't do anything different.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
This is the system.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
This is how And I think what Donald Trump showed
us more than.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
You can fight back. You can be a fighter and win.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
And that's what I think broke the mold for so
many of us that said it's not just normal. So
what I did the other day is I heard this
discussion on about H one B visus and I put
it out there. I literally just tweeted, let's settle this
H one B visus pro I'm with Elon Khan, Bannon
is right and sixty seven percent, and it trended this way.
I made it intentionally forty eight hours because I didn't
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want it to be a flash in the pan.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I wanted people to be able to see it, digested,
share it.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Look at that thing over there, ninety two thousand, six
hundred and seventy four votes.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Is this scientific?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But is this where the people are?
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
And what I've found most interesting, Steve, wasn't just the vote,
but I read through a lot of the comments, and
what I found interesting about this issue more than anything,
is that some of the commentary that you have shared
goes back to my original comment. For so long, we've
been told we need each one be visus because Americans
can't fill this, and we've been just given a blanket excuse.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This is how things are done. Fuck it up right.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What I read through a lot of the comments and
through a lot of the commentary that you're putting out,
there is no there is a different way that you
don't have.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
To just accept the status quo.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
These guys created this problem and now they want everyone
to bail them out. Right, so we can train Americans,
we can reprioritize putting Americans in these problems, that we
shouldn't just accept the status quo because they say so.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Sean, given the new coalition we've putten together, and obviously
is the early days of that. You know, we did
it in sixteen a little bit, but much more in
twenty four we have African American males now coming to
the forefront, either not voting for Democrats and or sometimes
voting for President Trump. And you have Hispanics in record numbers.
Think over fidgious out of the Hispanic vote the last
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time on MSMEBC when they say, hey, we kind of
like what Bannon is saying, but we know they are racists.
At the end of the day, these guys are all racists,
and they refuse to talk about the Hispanic and African
American I mean Isn't that what this is really about.
It's about American citizens, regardless of your race or ethnicity.
You deserve a shot at these jobs, and you're not
dumber or lasier than people as guys are saying that,
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we actually have plenty of people that could step in
and fill those because they're not bringing over the Einstein's
that's obvious, right. Do you think that gets us pass
this racism charge.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
No, because they can't admit that they're wrong. That's the problem.
And again this goes back to the first thing I
said about the status quo. We force people into a
four year college education because we tell them that's the
smart thing to do.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So they get a degree in gender studies, make fifteen grand.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
A year, and never pay back their loan and hope
that the government forgives it instead of saying, hey, there
are these trade schools where you can learn a skill.
You can learn to be an engineer, you can learn
to work on computers. The system is screwed up, and
the problem is is that our leaders tell us there's
only one way to do things. And what I think,
more than anything we've learned over the last eight years,
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if not ten, is that there are better ways, more
common sense solutions, and we don't have to suck it
up if we're willing to fight back, if we're willing
to say this isn't the only way, that there are
other avenues to pursue this, that if you're not going
to change, we'll get rid of you.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Then you know.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I think that to me is the message over and
over again. We've learned that we can win. We don't
have to accept the status quo. I mean, I think
about all these fights, these people saying Pete Exeth isn't qualified.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The guy's got what three bronze stars degrees from Princeton
and Harvard, served in Gitmo, Afghanistan, Iraq, and somehow because
he didn't wear a star on his shoulders, he's not qualified.
He didn't work in the defense industrial complex, he's not qualified.
Tell me how Dennis McDonough, Obama's VA secretary, who's never
served in the military, never worked for a veteran.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Service organization, is qualified.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
We've got to remember that we've been shown a roadmap
on how to fight and win, and if we'll follow it,
we will be more and more successful. The problem, I
think the best thing that ever happened to Donald Trump.
I hate to say this is not taking office in
twenty twenty because for forty years we've been able to
get the people.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The process and the policy. He's right to think about them.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
And when he comes back in on January first, the
American people better have their head on a swivel because
it's going to go around like this over and over
and over again, because he is going to crush the establishment.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
At sixty seven thirty three and it held pretty tight,
and ninety two thousand we tracked these that's a massive
amount of people. Remember, you're restricted, you only vote want
So it's not like somebody sat there or in the
intensity that comments as far as actionable because as a
director and information guy, you're always talking to me about
actionable information. What is the actual information that this represents?
(12:07):
To Sean Spicer, as you see this, what do you
think should be done with this?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So if I were a tech leader, right, I'd go
out and say, guys, the American people aren't with us anymore,
kind of the same way that corporate America lost the
American people, Right, So I would go back and I
would say, all right, we need to do things to
help American citizens take these jobs. What can we show
that we're willing to man up and do We're going
to establish scholarship, so we're going to establish training programs.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But they need to have skin in the game.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
They can't just bypass American citizens get the cheap labor.
As you pointed out for these comments and even that
Chris Hayes's clip that you played, this is indentured certitude
for these folks. They come over and they're trapped in
a job. How's that any different just because they're making
a few more bucks. They have no ability to say
or do anything. Are you going to speak up at
your job if something's going wrong, if you know that
your visa is tied to your ability to stay in
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the country.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
So what I think these tech companies need to.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Do is show immediately that they're willing to skin in
the game when it comes to putting American people first,
whether that's scholarship, training programs, stem, you know, things.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But they've got to do more.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
They can't just sit back and say, oh, sorry, this
is the way it is, and we need this labor.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Sean, where do people get the show? Where do they
go to get your social media.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Shawn Spicer dot com is everything.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
My show airs every night at six o'clock on my
YouTube channel. Sean just go to Shawn Spicer six pm
every night. I appreciate you coming on and anything on
Twitter on exits Sean Spicer. So thank you Steve for
calling us.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Out now, Sean, we're going to have any lucky in
getting you into these Are we going to get you
into any lucky getting you into the second term?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Can we break some news here? I'll tell you what
if you go, I go, Commander. Happy New Year, Commander Spicy,
thanks for having me on you bet, thank you. Robert
Shaw Corral will take us out here on New Year's
(14:03):
Eve here in the War room, very special guest Batya
Unger Sargon is going to join us next to talk
about the plight of the American working man and woman
when the entire system is rigged against him. Short commercial
break back in the war in just a moment, saying no.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
To the selling out of the future of their children.
And it is so dispiriting to see this coming from
the so called right. And I think you nailed it, Rachel.
These people do not believe in national borders. They don't
know what a nation is. They don't know what it
means to feel a sense of obligation, not just to
our fellow Americans, because they are fellow Americans, but to
people who have less than you. What happened to no
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bless obligee? Elon Muski, you are the richest man in
the world.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You can't have a little bit.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Of respect for the country and the people in it
and the working class of the nation that gave you
that privilege.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
You have no.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
Respect for the God who gave you that privilege. It
is so utterly infuriating, and I'm so grateful to you
and to patriots Steve Bannon, our national hero, for towing
the line and holding the line on this and saying no, no,
we will not sit here and cheer as they take
good jobs away from Americans and give them to other people.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
And so what is the answer?
Speaker 9 (15:57):
I mean, I think about this.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
If we keep.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
Importing foreign labor to meet this demand, if we keep,
as you said, driving the wages down, we don't want
to get to the root of the problem.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
If Eveig is right that you.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
Know we need more, we need more people, which I'm
not entirely convinced that that that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That is the case.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
We also could set up programs in inner cities to
prepare them to code and do these are entry level jobs.
Let's not pretend like these are. A lot of these
are super super high tech. Some of them are entry
level and people can be trained into them. But that
would require the oligarchs, to the Titans of the universe,
to take less money and invest in this. For our
government to invest in those kinds of programs.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
You're totally right, And think of the irony here, Rachel.
They shipped all their good manufacturing jobs overseas and said
we'll teach them to code. Now it turns out no, actually,
we're going to import people to do the coding right exactly.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
So I want to end on what I think is
a positive note because what I see is left and
right coming together in this Why don't we talk about
that a little bit cause I think it's a really
positive thing.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh absolutely, I mean, this moment revealed that the divide
in this country is not left versus right, and it's
certainly not God forbid racial. It is the multi racial,
multi ethnic working class coalition coming together and taking on
the oligarchs. Both the over credentialed college elites and the
oligarchs of Silicon Valley and saying we're going to stand together, Black, White, Hispanic, Jewish,
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Asian working class Americans are going to stand together for
the future of their children.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Yeah, I'm really glad that you came, and I have
to tell you, I think this debate that's going on
is incredibly important, and I'm glad we're having it, and
I'm glad and I'm grateful to Elon Musk that it's
happening on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Rachel Duffy, one of the smartest stuff folks over at
Fox with our guests, the author of Second Class, and
boy is she Naila. We know the audience will have
the book Second Class, how the elites portrayed America's working
men and women. Batia Unger Sargon, talk to me for
a moment about this left and right coming together, because
you're one hundred percent correct. This is about American citizens
(18:00):
in MSMEC last night. Couldn't get over there. So well.
We do agree with Bannon on this populism, but we
know he's a racist, and we know they're all white nationalists.
This is a true coming together of the populist movement
of both left and right. To defend American citizens, is
it not, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Christ of all, thank you so much for having me.
It is such an honor to be here with you.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
They literally put you in prison because you were revealing
the truth, which is that the divide in this country
is not racial. It's between the elites and the multi
racial working class, who all want better jobs for their children,
all want a future in this country that reflects them
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and their values and their hard work. And what the
left does and now the tech pro right as well,
is they try to racialize this to hide the fact
that this is about citizenship. It is supposed to mean
something to be an American citizen. And this is something
that working class people of all races intuitively understand, and
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it is something that the oligarchs on both sides not
only do they not understand it, mister Bannon, but they
have invested everything in erasing the concept of citizenship, erasing
the concept of a nation state and national borders. Why
because they have gotten very, very very rich doing that.
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And that is the whole game here. It was the
game when the left was calling working class people of
all races racist because they want a future for their children,
and it's the whole game. When Elon Musk and vive
Bramaswami say that they're too lazy and stupid, yes, they
said that to your faces. It's the whole game. And
you have been on this from day one, mister Bannon.
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You are a national hero and a patriot who taught
me what a real story in this country is.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
How can they get how can they continue to get
away with this? This what's confusing to me. And you know,
Elon retweeted, somebody called American workers retarded the ves just
basically you could see the underpinnings of the hatred of
the American people right there. But how can they get
away with all?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Night?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Last time seeing in an MSNBC highly skilled foreign workers,
highly skilled foreign workers, Americans are not qualified to do
these jobs when we know from the evidence in the facts,
these are principally entry level jobs. We've asked them, We've
asked the millions that have come in here on these
visas show us one example, one example where an American
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tech worker didn't have the qualifications to do that job.
We have yet to get an answer on one of
the millions that have come here over the twenty to
thirty years of this program. But how can they continue
to sell the fact that Americans either not qualified, these
are highly qualified foreigners are coming over, or Americans don't
want the jobs and the jobs are going open, which
both are bald face lies, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
They can continue to sell it because there is an
elite in this country that is very, very hungry to
buy it because it puts money in their pockets. So,
if you have a college degree, you're in that knowledge industry,
and you are the consumer of working class or middle
class labor, of course you want an open border because
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it puts money in your pocket. Of Course you want
to ship manufacturing overseas because then when you buy things,
you can.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Buy cheap stuff.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
And guess what else, when you go to compete in
the housing market, suddenly there's a lot less competition because
the top twenty percent is controlling over fifty percent of
the GDP, which means that you're no longer competing with
your cleaning lady or your landscaper when it comes to.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Buying a home.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Suddenly it's much easier for you to achieve the American
dream while you are consuming the labor of an American
who can no longer afford that American dream. We used
to believe that this was our god given right, Our
rights in this country are guaranteed by God, and that
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that is something that means something that binds us together
as citizens of this great nation culturally and economically and socially.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
And of course this is not about race.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
This is something that binds Americans of all races together.
But the oligarchs on the left, the over credentilled college elites,
and now the tech bro rights, these people don't believe
in these things because to destroy the concept of the
nation is to put millions and billions.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Of dollars back in their pockets.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
You know, they're always saying that mass immigration raises the GDP.
Of course it raises the GDP. It makes oligarch's unbelievably
wealthy to have a limitless supply of low wage, indentured servitude.
The problem is is that it makes Americans much poorer.
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And what you have done, mister Bannon, is given voice
to the masses who did not have a voice to
object when there was a handshake agreement pre Trump between
both parties to further destroy the border, ship jobs overseas
and import a slave cast who are indentured servants or
(23:34):
enslaved to cartels to do lowage and working class and
middle class jobs. Here, it's the whole game. They are
getting rich off of the working class. It is class
warfare from the top, from the elites on both sides
against the multi racial working class coalition.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did you find this out? Give me a minute before
we go to break on Second Class, because your book, well,
we had you on here, the audience loved it. But
you've been working on this for years? How did you
get the idea? Just tell me the idea? First was
second Class? How the elites portrayed America's working men and women?
How'd you come up with the whole concept of it.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I had started to notice that the real divide in
this country was not racial, and was not.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Between even left versus right.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I was doing a lot of reporting from the South
during the first Trump era, and I had gone into
that reporting as a woke leftist, and I was expecting
that I was going to find all of this racism.
And what did I find the exact opposite, That the
demand for instances of racism in this country from the
leftist elites was totally totally superseding the actual supply, and
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I was really shocked by this, and I started to
think about, well, how come I am so shocked by this, Like,
how come I was under the illusion that this was
still a white supremacist country and that everybody who voted
for the other party than I did was a white
supremacist or a racist.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
That was my first book.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
It's called Bad News, How woke Media is Undermining Democracy,
and it's about how the media, which is extremely woke,
perpetuated this myth about racism in America. And having discovered
that the real divide was not racial, and it was
really the class divide, and the reason the media was
so biased against Republicans was because the Republican Party was
becoming the working class party. I then started to uncover
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this class divide, and I wanted to write a book
about that. I wanted to allow working class people, in
their own voices, to talk about the struggle for dignity
in a country where the Democrats had created an economy
that was an upward funnel of wealth from the middle
class into the pockets of the elites.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
And so I traveled around the country for a year.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
I interviewed working class people of all races who vote
for both parties, and I found that there was a
lot of consensus and unity among these people. And of course,
what you know and what all of your viewers know,
which is that this is the greatest country on Earth.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
And we have to fight, fight, fight to keep it
that way.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And the greatest resource of the greatest country on Earth,
it's its people in their struggle for dignity. Work with dignity.
Short commercial break, The Dublin Woman's Choir is going to
take us out with old lang Zion. We're going to
be back in a moment with our guests Batya Unger
Sargon here on a New Year's Eve, the last day
(26:24):
of twenty twenty four. What a year. Short break back
in a.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Moment over the one be visa is the one that
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folks like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing
for years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all
immigration in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of
the border around asylum, but also h one b visas.
I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannon's
old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is
before Trump was even the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Take a list and they see these oligarchs down there
with fifty four private jets and they're not down there
for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and
it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement
because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating
heart of this problem right now, The real beating heart
of it of what we've got to get sorted here
is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and
(27:45):
it's horrific. It don't only have a problem. We've looked
the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of
overwhelmed the country.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The history of America is that an immigration on period
is followed by an immigration off period.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So see be very clear, right H one B visa's
legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have a
pretty clear vision. Miller's gonna be the one writing that
border bill.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
We have a very clear vision. For folks who have
just come to this show of the last year or
a couple of years, this has been a I don't know,
ten twelve year project. The years of fifteen and sixteen
were trench warfare, and fourteen with with Dave Bratt coming on,
seeing the huge victory. We had taken now Cantrick, we
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could walk you through. And Steven Miller, who had been
on Michelle Bachmann's staff and then went to Jeff Sessions,
and Jeff Session kind of held the line in the Senate.
But so when when people like David Sachson and Elon
Musk and Vivic Ramaswami show up, Dude, I've taken down
(28:50):
bigger guys than that a decade ago. Okay, you think
the odds odds along against these guys, or the odds
arelong against Biden you ssually seeing the odds against Trump
at the beginning. That was an event. I was doing
Breitbart News Radio meeting of the audience. That was really
a call in show. I mainly took calls. I would
have guests like Stephen Miller, something big came up. Principally
(29:13):
we would have a big calling over a serious ExM
as a morning show six to nine. We that was
a group of Carl Rove and I used the term
oligarchs and people, but what are you talking about? They all,
I think it was fifty four of them got together
in an I think it was an island off of
South Carolina to have an emergency meeting in March of
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how did they stop Trump? Trump was running the tables
and I think he had just won Super Tuesday. How
to stop Trump? With with these uh primaries that were left?
How to stop Trump? And how I put as much
money as possible. And the issue, one of the big
issues was H one B visus because I said, but look,
(30:00):
it's it's immigration overall. What Biden did is so radical,
was to crush, to try to defeat inflation, to crush
the relatively low skilled or unskilled workers African American and
principally Hispanic by allowing I don't know, eight ten, twelve, fourteen, fifteen,
(30:20):
you picked the number millions and millions of millions of people.
And now they argue it's bought. You just told you, well,
it added one percent to the GDP because they're taking
all their money and buying doritos. They'll always come up
with another line. But back then it was the same issue,
H one B visus. And remember we do have a
(30:41):
clear vision. It's total immigration. I'm again right now, I
say we must demand a moratorium, all all immigration, all
the students, everything, a moratorium. We just got to settle
down and figure this thing out because the system's been
gained for decades and decades and decades. And who pays
(31:02):
the price? Who pays the price? The American citizen? Do
you not have enough on your shoulders? Is the anxiety
not enough?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's yesterday? What have I been saying on here? Credit
cards at one point two trillion dollars face amount the
credit card companies just wrote off last quarter. I think
seventy eight billion dollars. My numbers correct up fourteen percent
on write else a credit card non performing the highest sense.
I'm a thought of random date, the highest sense. Wait
(31:33):
for a random date. You're waiting for it, You're ready
for it. Two thousand and eight. Is that date ring
a bell? Because that's the beginning of the collapse of
the elites in this country, the financial collapse that they
manufactured and they made a fortune off of. And then
because the most progressive and hey, Bush got us into this.
He's the worst president this country has had since Buchanan.
(31:55):
Jimmy Carter, God rest his soul, and he'll have his
state funeral next week. Jimmy Carter in the top five.
But you got to throw Biden, and you've got to
put Bush right there in back of Buchanan, Okay, two
thousand and eight crash. But Obama, the most progressive, the
most progressive president in history, did the most neoliberal bailout,
(32:16):
bailout the elites. The greatest concentration of wealth happened on
that watch of how they bailed it out and how
they destroyed the working class of middle class. And we
have never recovered from that. Even Trump's kind of three
Golden years of really seventeen eighteen ninety, particularly eighteen and
nineteen partially recovered, but not fully. A long way from fully,
but at least it was the start. So this fight
(32:39):
has gone on because the elites in this country that
have control, they always want to go to where they
want to crush labor, whether they allow fifteen million illegal
aliens to come here to compete against African Americans in
blacks at the lower end of the of the skill set,
or whether they the private equity and venture capitalists and
(33:02):
hedge fund guys ship the manufacturing jobs over to China,
so L'albaijing can work as slave labors under the dictatory
regime of the Chinese Commuist Party and ship all your
manufacturing jobs over there. So as Batia said, you can
buy cheaper stuff here, or if they can't outsource it,
they'll just bring them here and lie to you, bald face, lie,
(33:23):
here's what we at least a lie. It would like
enough respect to let's have a debate. Let's have a debate.
Be upfront about it. You want lower wages. I got it.
You want lower wages because you get higher margins. And
remember most of these kind of what I call these
companies are algorithm companies. Right if you get those guys
at a third lesson that. Yesterday us tech workers walked
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us through the number, and Will Upton walked us through
the number. It's about your cutting off a third to
forty percent of labor cost. I get it. I went
to Harvard Business School, I worked at Goldman. I can
do the math. I got it. That's a big that's
a higher margin. And guess what that's going to get
your high multiple in the stock market. And that means
Elon you're gonna be richer, and David Sacks you're gonna
be richer. And Vivid you're gonna be richer. Oh it's
(34:07):
a side note on all of this. I kind of
I don't need and I think as a citizen of
this country, what we don't need is white guys from
South Africa lecturing us like Peter Teo and David Sacks
and Elon Musk. We don't need white guys from South
Africa lecturing us on how the way things should be.
(34:31):
Let me be blunt about that. I don't think that
country's got the greatest track record on Earth. Okay, we've
gone through a number of struggles ourselves, but we walked
them through. Okay, not perfect, far from perfect. But I
don't need guys from South Africa telling us the way
the social order in this country is. And they particularly
don't need a South African telling me that the people
(34:52):
in the United States, the workforce is retarded. Okay, don't
need that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
The good news is, and you see the fight all
the way back to there where they couldn't stop Trump,
didn't stop Trump. They tried to pull out every stop.
The good news is, you know they talked a big game.
Oh they're going to fight to the ends of the earth.
This is so important. Remember they start off with H
one B. Visus has made all his companies in the
Rocket Company, and all these companies have made them and
(35:18):
I will fight to the you. I will show you
types of warfare that you can't even comprehend after I
f you in the face, to which I said, yo, child,
Protective Services. Can you have a wellness check on this toddler? Dude,
you have no earthy idea how to fight. What they're
doing now is spamming like the Twitter feed and you know,
(35:40):
and suppressing air tour feed. Dude, We're banned everywhere and
the show's bigger than every and we just took you
on and ripped your face off. So I don't care
what you do on Twitter. It doesn't matter, does not matter.
Bring everything you've got, okay, because we're not going to
lose this fight. You've already surrendered after two Oh oh, well,
you know it needs reflect Well at first you told
(36:01):
me it was great and now all the tech companies
depend upon it. It was the most perfect thing. Then an
hour later it's it's it needs reform. And here's what
we need to do. We need to pay this higher
and Theresa A no, that's all a lie, and we're
not buying it anymore. You can lie and spin other people,
you ain't spending us. Here's here's what we demand doze, doze.
(36:23):
The first thing at the top of your list. We
want the complete eradication of this program, all of it,
not some of it, not, reform some of it, all
of it. Get rid of it. It's a blight upon
the American people. And somebody said, well, Steve, why do
you put you know, we've got to be together. No,
this is about the direction of our country, and this
(36:44):
is central to it. Either citizenship means something or it doesn't.
And the one way did you get to mean something
is to stop bringing the world into people's homes, into
people's own nation that they have held build and generations
of their families have helped build, and helped defend and
fight for and pay taxes for and be the little
(37:08):
platoons to build the civic society, and they got nothing
to show for it. After five or six or seven generations.
You just got this anxiety. What hamms have it? Get
laid off? And we know the suppressing wages that they're
suppressing wages by taking the jobs of China. They're suppressing
wages by outsourcing jobs, the more marketing and telephonic jobs,
(37:30):
and what they can't do there, they're going to bring
them here. They're gonna get up in your grill. Why
do you think Trump won. Why do you think blacks
and Hispanics voting for them? Because they look around their
cities they go, hey, I finally got the joke they're
coming from me. Think of how brutal and how nasty
the elites in this country are they would allow and
(37:54):
actually organize because this is all very organized. It's all
very organized. Ten to fifteen million illegal alien innovators that
come into this country take jobs from the folks that
have the least skills in this country. Think about that
for a second. And here, if you've gone to engineering school,
you're gone. You try to get they're gonna import on
(38:16):
a ball faced lie, higher skilled foreign workers, high skilled
foreign workers. The skills are not any different than American citizens.
And don't sit there and lie. You can't fill those spots.
You go out of your way. You go out of
your way to gun deck the entire thing. So you
can do that because they're more compliant. The reason they
got to be compliant in twenty first century America, we
(38:39):
have indentured servitude as much as that was a scar
in the country in the nineteenth century, and we're doing
it here. In front of your eyes, and we have
baionnaires that are worth a fortune. They're gonna sit there
and look at you. Oh, you're a liar. Show enough
respect for the citizens country to just be honest. Let's
(38:59):
have a debate. We want lower wages. I got that.
I understand it. It's not going to happen, but I
understand it. But do not sit there and play us
for fools, because we've only just started to fight. Okay,
somebody gave me a compliment the other day in some article.
(39:21):
They said, this guy's a thug, but he wins at
any cost. I don't care what you call me. Okay,
but we're not going to lose this fight. We want
to complete e visceration, eradication of this entire program. One two,
we want everybody here, one of these visas deported immediately.
As soon as you deport these fifteen years in the
(39:43):
same time, Frank home and get a ticket for him, boom,
send them home. In immediate hiring of American citizens, regardless
of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, to fill those jobs that
American citizens should have. And then yes, yes, we need
to sit down with the companies, the private equity companies,
(40:06):
the owners and have a discussion. Well, hang on for
a second. You did this for decades and you stole
people's futures. Look how many white men look at a
black men look at me? Spanning men or not in
the workforce? Was it fifty or sixty or seventy million
(40:26):
in the prime years of their lives? Do you understand
how this eats away at the soul. You are cruel
and you are barbaric, and we are not going to
tolerate it. I have not yet begun to fight. Okay,
and if you guys want to continue on, we will
(40:48):
beat you into submission. Short break. Stephen k bam so
bot you. And by the way, we're calling for we
(41:08):
know this student program visa, there's all of these are scams.
They're all scams. The student visa program scam. You get
other programs here, there's dozens of they're trying to game
the system against you, against you, and we're going to
deconstruct it all. We want a one thousand percent total
(41:29):
and complete more torment all lead quote unquote legal it's
not legal immigration. Do you think the H one B
visa is legal? It's not legal. It's a scam. It's
a one hundred percent scam. Please, we've begging you guys.
Show me the excellence. Show me how these people, these
skilled foreign workers, the highly skilled foreign workers that you
(41:50):
bring over here as essentially slave labor into the country
and pay them nothing. And they got to be compliant
to work one hundred hours a week because if they
don't say any then you're gonna ship them back. And
they got a shot if they keep their head down
to get a green car to get through the golden
door and then have chain migration. This is how purely
evil you are. You are evil. So don't sit there,
(42:12):
unctious and lecture us the South Africans. You're gonna lecture
us not didn't not enough evil come out of South Africa, sirs? Yeah,
I went there because I'm not going to tolerate. This
is the United States of America. We're not gonna be
lectured by a bunch of white guys from South Africa.
Don't need it, you unctious. Yesterday you had a defender
(42:36):
on here. She was fantastic, Alison Wynn, who knows you classy,
very smart Stanford knows Elon brillyant guy, smart guy. You
know he's going to colonize the Mars. That's a complicated
engineering project, and he is quite a brilliant engineer. You
one might argue he's not Tesla at that level, but
(42:58):
he's Edison at another level. Okay, that's a pretty good compliment.
We've had I don't know one or two of those
in the history of this republic. We got one there.
But you know what, you know what, if you can
work out the mathematical formulas in the engineering a complexity
of sending a colony of human beings to Mars and
(43:20):
keep them alive, you can work through the math on this.
And you know it's a bald face lie. And here's
I know you know it's a bald face lie because
you cratered as soon as we got up in your grill.
Oh okay, fine, well I won't fight to the death.
I'm not going to fight to the death in charl
kind of new times for warfare. Why don't we reform?
We need reform? And you go to some bs answering
(43:41):
you think we're going to buy that. Where did you
come from?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Here's what you need to do. You need to study
modern political history of the fights we've been through for
twelve or fourteen years to get to this spot. You
think this just cause people just wandering around. People have
worked for over a deck, pounding this, pounding this, pounding this.
And that's how relentless the established order is. Because Bacia
(44:09):
told you, they're making a lot of money and they
have control. And this is about money and powers, not
about race. It's not about gender, it's not about ethnicity,
it's not about religion. That's what they want you to
believe it is. So you're like a bucket of crabs
at each other's throat. It's not about that's about money
and power. And Carl Ro's gonna get his fifty four
(44:30):
big donors down there. They're gonna figure out how to
stop Trump or how to compromise it. And they will
use Ted Cruz, they'll use Little Marco, or they'll use
Jeb Bush, or they don't care who they use. They'll
throw up some chopped block. They'll misdirect you and look
at this and that there's some racism over there, you
white folks, go look at that. That's a Fox specialty.
(44:52):
We don't fall for that. So I don't think you're
gonna come back and oh, you know, well, what we
need to do is increase it here and cut that car.
They screw you, you clown, and then you got to
suppress us over there. I don't know black listening, whatever
they're doing to I don't care what they do on Twitter.
I could care less. And we're banned on every platform
in the world. And this show is one of the
(45:14):
most powerful in the world. Why is that Because the
content of the show resonates with the most powerful audience
in the world, working men and women that happen to
be citizens of this great republic. This is a defining movie,
he says. Some of the people say, oh, Steve, you
(45:35):
gotta we gotta have a group hug. You can't do
this and let the Democrats. No, no, we're not having
group hugs. We're not having pats on the head. You
got to get this straight. First off, you got to
get hey. I've said many times that Elon came and
Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his
(45:57):
engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we
saw it, and he supported it. And for that he
gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should.
It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not
an entire cycle in five months. But that dinner with
Sacks and that check from Elon came at Biden's you
(46:18):
know when Biden, you know, in the debate, right before
the debate and Biden, you know, they kind of saw
the numbers where this thing was heading. They're recent converts,
and we love converts. Hell, I'm I'm a Catholic. We
used to be in the convert business. Not so much anymore.
We can't keep what we got. But in the old days,
you know, half the Saints are missionaries. We loving converts.
(46:43):
But the converts sit in the back and study for
years and years and years and make sure you understand
the faith, and you understand the nuances of the faith
and understand how you can internalize the faith. Don't come
up and go to the pulpit in your first week
here and start lecturing people about the way things are.
If you're gonna do that, we're gonna get and we're
gonna rip your face off because you can't beat us.
(47:09):
We're not beatable. This army the Awakens not beatable because
we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will
never slow down. And yes, if you go low, we'll
go to the center of the earth because we're fighting
for something that means something. We have a meaning in this.
(47:30):
This is why people watch the show. This is why
people come to this show and all this great content
people provide us. And Ben Berkwom's down now, putting his
life in danger again. Why did people do this? Why
have they done this for years? Why they do it
for years? At Breitbart? Why did when Trump started appearing
in thirteen or fourteen we said, that's the guy. Why
was it because it had been a struggle before that.
(47:55):
We're not we didn't come in here in June, and
we're not saying oh, just because you came late. No,
you can be part of this, but you're not gonna
sit here and lie to us, to our face and
expect us say, oh, because you're worth five hundred billion dollars.
You people that are taking money, take money. I don't
care bow down in Cowtown. I don't care. I could
(48:17):
care less. I'm a crazy, fricking irishman and I will
never I didn't Cowtown on Nancy PELUSI put me in
a federal prison for foremance, and I didn't care spitting
their face when I went in, I spitting their eye
when I came out. I literally do not care. And
that is the first step in the path the victory.
(48:40):
One hundred percent moratorium on all immigration until we get
this thing sorted and we can go through the lies
of this legal immigration for decades and decades and decades.
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