January 2, 2025 • 49 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON,
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NATALIE WINTERS
WILL UPTON
MIKE LINDELL
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
About the response from President elect Trump, who trolled in
outright misinformation and lies on social media yesterday, seizing upon
an erroneous Fox News report that this truck had just
come over the border, thinking that it was perhaps some
sort of migrant behind the wheel. So talk to us about, frankly,
how irresponsible that is and fear mongering, but also the
(00:21):
idea that this incident, with a new focus on national security,
may actually ease the path for some of his cabinet
nominations to get through.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean, the first reaction from President elect Trump was
to blame this on a border crossing that turned out
to be based on an erroneous report that had to
do with the rental of this truck. Ended up being corrected,
but Trump's post did not end up being corrected. And
then this morning, or I guess late last night, he
continued to hammer away at this idea that things are
out of control at the border. Now is the time
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for tough policies to be implemented, and so on and
so forth. Look, I don't want to excuse Trump, and
I'm not. This is what we expect from him, right,
This is the reaction that we have come to anticipate
in these moments, and it is what it is. He's
not president yet, but we know that from past this
is how he reacts in terms of his nominees. I
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think ultimately for the National Security slate, and by that
I mean Pete Hegseth, Telsey Gabbard, Cash Battal at FBI.
You can see the case where senators say he needs
his team in quickly, and even though we might have
some reservations about their views, their management experience, their past
and personal lives, we need to push these nominations through.
(01:39):
The one sort of caveat I would add is that
when it comes to Cash Battel, it's not obviously he's
a controversial nominator on but he's likely to not be
considered right away. The reason for that is that the
Judiciary Committee the Senate will likely go with the Attorney
general nomination first, and they can't do things simultaneously. So
(02:00):
what we should expect is that Pambondi's consideration will happen
before Cash Fatah, which means that that might get pushed
back to a couple of weeks, potentially into February. So
that's just from a Timmy perspective, but I would make
the case. I would guess that Republicans who may be
on the fence about some of these nominees will ultimately
be persuaded to be supportive in light of what happened yesterday. Yeah,
(02:24):
this is the crimal scream of a dying regie.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's not got a free shot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And all these networks lying about the people, the people
have had a belly full of bit I.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I know you're trying to do everything in the world
to stop there, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
War Room.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's Thursday, the second of January, the Overlower twenty twenty five.
This is kind of a continuation of our morning show.
We left you with this situation on the confirmations, also
the selection of the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Both of those are progressing.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
We have recommended, strongly recommended to the team from the
beginning that they should be pushing for the confirmations to
start right after President Trump is certified on the sixth.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It's just start Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
They need Cash Betel in immediately. There's a tradition with
Senator Grassley and his committee Judiciary Committee to wait twenty
eight days after they get.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
The paperwork paperworker cash has been filed. We can't wait
for the twenty days.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Pam BONDI could be ready to go next week and
then right after that Cash matel. So they're both ready
to be sworn in right immediately after President Trump. We're
going to continue to push this. Pete Hegseth. Also, President
Trump want to have his national security and his I
think his intelligence team CIA, D and I and an
FBI intelligence, counter intelligence, counter terrorism.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
All of it ready to go.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We're here today breaking news with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders
coming out and jumping on the tech bros about the
lies and misrepresentations of really getting rid of the American
people to hire the replacements of which they are at
I don't know thirty third to forty percent lower into
work unlivable conditions. But we're here today and Natalie Winters,
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my co who's going dremain. Natalie's been off doing some
research for the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Natalie.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
We're going to be joined by will Upton a little
bit later. We got a lot to go through here.
And also this bizarre report the White House put out
on you know, on white Christian nationalists hate hating on Muslims.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
We'll get to all that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I want to make a statement now as you go up,
because you've gone start to go through this now, the
actual data to me, there is no all immigration coming
into this country right now is illegal. There's no legal immigration.
Of course, the ten to fifteen million just on Biden's watch.
He got in through the through here and it keeps,
it keeps going every day. We're going to go in
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the next hour to Ben Berkwam down. I think he's
still in San Diego, wing to go Ben down for
an update on how the Biden regime is pushing people
through and across even at this late stage when they
should put their pencils down.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
But also on what's called legal immigration.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
When you actually go through here and look at it.
It's all illegal because every part of the system is gained,
and the numbers are staggering. It's not the little numbers
they put out. This has been a huge This is
a huge thing in the first term. The reason it
hasn't taken such prominence until recently is that we were
overwhelmed with ten to fifteen million illegal alien innovators and
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you've got to get them out of the country. They're
going to sink the country. But all this other illegal immigration,
and that's sort of this. There is no legal immigration
in this country right now, which is stop using that term.
And the Republicans have got to stop using that as
a It's like, oh, until we can get to entitlements.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Who can't control spending. This is the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh well, I hate illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
No, you do.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What you support is basically the replacement of the American citizen,
regardless of their race or ethnicity, with foreigners, regardless of
their race or ethnicity. This is no shot against the
Chinese people, and certainly no shot against the Indian people. Natalie,
walk us through whatever way you think is the best
to walk it through, because I know your head's been
blown up for the last seventy two hours, ma'am sure.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
I mean it's not just illegal, it's immoral, and it's
an affront to the idea that the United States of
America is a sovereign nation. I would sort of draw
a parallel in the same way that we saw legalized
fraud in the twenty twenty election. Of course at the
behest of all the tech bros. The Mark Zuckerberg's funding,
you know, the private ballot get out the vote operations
in exclusively Democrat areas. Like yes, I guess it was
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technically legal for the laws we have on the books,
but there was no demonstrable benefit right to citizens of
the United States.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Who's a holding a free and fair election.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
But I think we have to be very serious and
approach this issue with the gravity and severity that it deserves.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
What do I mean by that? This is the culture war, right.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I know, conservatives love to get distracted by the bathrooms
and the shiny toys, you know, the Target Pride displays
and stuff like that. But the issue of the H
one B visa and more broadly, legal immigration, I think
it really comes down to two of the themes that
we have focused most intensely on the show, that being
transhumanism and globalism to ideologies that I think plague that
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sort of tech bro ruling class. And why do I
say that, Because what they are essentially trying to do,
with absolute disregard for the lived reality, the lived experience
of their fellow Mayora con citizens and workers, is essentially
terraform the United States into a you know, pro business
colony where the only thing that matters is profit maximization
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for corporations that truly, to their core detest this country. Well, simultaneously,
I would argue bioengineering a workforce that I guess at
the end of the day, they want us all living
in you know pods with neurolinks in our brains, where
the paragon of success and the only variable that matters
is the bottom line for corporations that, like I said,
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to their core, hate this country.
Speaker 9 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
The legal immigration system, I frankly look at it as
a sort of version of you know, cap and trade
with carbon emissions, but for humanity, which essentially neglects the
idea that citizenship means something. Right, The average American worker,
and we're going to get into all the facts, is
treated like.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Roadkill by people.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
The CEOs of these tech companies, the staff and companies,
the IT companies, though I think that's frankly more honorable
death because at least they don't have to train their replacements.
I mean, it's like a twenty first century Mayan sacrifice
where we have to train people from third world countries
that frankly, when you look at the data, they're not
more qualified. They're not more qualified because they're being taught
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by their American replaces to take their jobs. It is
an abusive relationship, and I think legal immigration encapsulates the
way that the American people have been gas lit for
so long that we need to have this sort of
codependent relationship with the globalist world, with the global world,
with the global government, the idea that we need to
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import massive numbers. And by the way, Steve and trying
to get all of the data and the numbers to
actually sort of flush out the contours of this program.
It's very similar to trying to get to the bottom
of the origins of COVID nineteen. The data is not
readily available because they don't want it to be, because
they know if they made it easier to make the case,
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if the American people could act actually see these numbers
in whole, there would literally be revolution. And I say
that in all sincerity, but I want to start with
just some of the lies, the sort of I guess
you would call it the original.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Sin of this to hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I want to go back to that for a second.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
There's nobody better that you put on the case than
Natalie Winners when you've got to research something and get
down to the bottom of it. I mean, she she
seriously loves spend on a Saturday night going through federal
reports and documents. That's our idea of a good time.
Talk to me about that. There's nobody better. And when
you come back and say, this is the most they
obscure this. They go out of their way to block
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any kind of rational human being from actually seeing what's
going on here.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Just give us an example of.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That, and what you had to do to kind of
even start the process of digging out the information.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Sure, well for starters, we don't even know how many
people are overstaying their visas, right, So even if you
want to look through the matrix just of the H
one B or the optional practical training. There's also the
whole entire slate of the E one through five visas.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
There's the L one, there's the F ones.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
You have no idea to know even if you're looking
through the legal paradigm of people who have been granted
right those visa applications, they don't track the number of
people who overstay them, for starters, the actual number of
people who are taking these non immigrant or immigrant visas.
It's like stored on two separate computers at USCIS where
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they can even cross reference the data. But Steve, this
is a pattern of behavior, the sort of whatever you
want to call it, the permanent political class, the moneyed interest,
big business. In this case, it's big tech narrative and
information warfare that they've been waging.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
All the way back to the nineties. And why do
I say that.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
To get super granular, for example, there was this tech
lobbying industry group that was set up, the Information Technology
Association of America. They put out this long form report
basically saying that, oh, there's such a shortage of American workers,
we need to import a bunch of Indians to code.
And then of course they partnered with then Clinton's Department
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of Commerce. They hosted a huge convention. The Commerce Secretary
actually spoke.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
At the event. New York Times gave it.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
I think it was a three thousand word cover story,
and it was fear porn. It was propaganda, the idea
that if we don't import people from every other country,
that America is going to fall by the wayside. And
it turned out that if you actually dug in to
the numbers that per the Government Accountability Office and I
quote serious analytical and methodological weaknesses and all of the
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evidence that they were using for the study, it was unfounded.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It was never there.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
And you can replicate this sort of just bogus scientific
approach to all of the studies that, like I said,
drafted that original sin the idea that the H one
B all this stuff rests upon that there's a shortage
of American workers. There's a study that Bill Gates always
loves to cite the Chamber of Commerce, all the sort
of DC think takes where they say that, oh, well,
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every H one B that's hired results in five American jobs.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Well, what that.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Doesn't tell you is that when they were running those numbers,
they purposely excluded all of the It outsourcing companies like Infosis, Tata, Whipro,
all of those companies. They only selectively chose the companies
to pull from. There was no correlation. And then even
if you actually used that logic that track record, you
were getting over one hundred percent in terms of jobs
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being brought into the United States, so it didn't comport. Moreover,
there was a separate study that Mark Zuckerberg loved to
teut again the Chamber of Commerce, all these groups, where
they were saying that there were two point six more
jobs for every foreign born stem.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Tech person who comes into the United States.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Well, it's so funny because the researcher who did that report,
when she initially hit back to all of her tech
overlords with her initial findings, which showed well just the
exact opposite that they purposely told her to reorient the
data sets to look only at a certain timeframe to
get an idea where they say that there's, like I said,
two point six y two more United States workers or
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jobs for every foreigner that you import. And if you
go through the data, it is all bogus science.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
And there's more myths that I love to get entitled.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
On the show. It is hang on, Hey, hang on,
we're getting it all. Will Upton's going to join us.
Natalie Winners is on a roll. She's into the numbers,
and she can tell you by the facts that the
tech bros South, the South African tech bros, are bald
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Speaker 6 (14:53):
Back in a moment, just to steal man of a
Vake's argument. For the record, I'm very much against h
one B's and I think this tweet could have been
worded differently. But don't we see some truth in what
Vike was saying? And I'll start with with Blake that
there has been this slow motion decline in the mediocrity,
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that there has been this acceptance that we're no longer
going to pursue excellence, that we're no longer going to
be the best at things anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Come on, Charlie, we almost had you all the way there.
We almost said that was Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk coming
down the fact that we don't need to import foreign
workers because the American workers are as good or better,
as good or better certainly not worse.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
We'll getting more of that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
No, Vavek's thing was no Charlie, it was terrible from
start to finish.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Natalie, You're back with us.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Will Upton wrote an incredible piece of day on the
Daily on National Pulse. I'm gonna toss over you and
let's drill down on Will's peace.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Ma'am.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sure, well, I would just say to uh Vivek, I've
been told what Because I'm an American, I don't know
how to sit down.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And study and research.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Well, I think last segment probably just disproved that I've
always been more of a supporter of jock culture that
I don't think they're mutually exclusive with Valedicatorian culture. All
that aside, we'll get into some more myths that those
lovely tech bros have been spinning.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
But hang on, but hang on, but hoo ho ho
ho stop stop because this gets back to Mow. You
came up from that southern California culture of intense women's athletics.
I mean, you were a great volleyball player and and
his whole hit on the sleepovers. I mean, come on,
it was so offensive and mo no, because here's one
of the powers of title line in the sports. The
girls play these teams sports now that their mom's probably
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never had an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
To play at a in the scale of it is huge.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It leads to people that really know how to compete.
I mean, jock culture to me in the United States
is fantastic. Second, it's particularly been I think great for
young women, particularly after Title nine. I mean, my two
sisters were terrific. My older brother and my dad were
great athletes, as was my kid brother. I was not
I was I would say a good athlete, but they
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were great, and my dad just the thinking of the time.
My two sisters were not that involved in athletics.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
They just weren't. It was just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Although in your generation in Mo in southern California, all
the little girls played team sports. It was very intense
from an early age, and you saw as they went
on it's how you build leadership. It was quite extraordinary.
I think Title nine. That's one of the reasons, as
you know, Natalie, we fight so hard for it. Given
the fact that the transgender you know, the transgender movement
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tried to destroy it. But you saw right there the
jock culture that infused kind of for little girls back
in the eighties and nineties and early two thousands was
the reason I think we have so many assertive young
women today that really take charge and have tremendous leadership.
And I kind of saw it from the beginning with
mo Well.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I mean, I think it.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Goes back to what you view the United States of
America as. Do you view it as a shell company,
a holding company for the vested interests of the globalist
ruling class, where children need to be raised from day one?
How they can become the best maximizers of profit and
value for corporations that to their core and meet this country?
Or are they human beings right chosen and birthed and
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come into this world by the hand of God, who
should be allowed to I don't know, engage in sports,
have a life outside of being an indentured servant like
so many of these HB one or their spouses on
the H four visas the lives that they live again,
no shade to them. I'm sure you and I are
enterprising people. We would be doing the same thing. But
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the idea that American people have to compete with essentially
modern day slaves in order to quote unquote be successful
is offensive and it's wrong. And if you want to
do that, fine, go do that in another country that's
not the United States of America. The Founding fathers were
the Founding fathers because they appreciated individual liberty and freedom,
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and they had.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Other things going on in their lives.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
They loved the idea of community and culture and township
and kinship, not the idea that it was all about
boosting profits for I don't know, the British Empire insert
the new tech oligopoly into that sort of matrix. That
critique there, but it's so insulting and Steve to the
core of it. It's also just a bald faced lie
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that I reject the premise. Right when you look at
the data, which, like I said, is not readily available,
these foreign workers that they're importing, even if jock culture
were bad, are not even better, right, I mean, seriously,
when you look at when you look at the numbers
since before President Trump took office, Steve seventy two percent
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of stem engineers that have been hired in Silicon Valley
under the age of like forty six or fifty are
foreign born. Over half of American STEM graduates will never
work in STEM fields. And the people who are involved
on the sick, awful, sinister side of the dark side
of this trade. This it staffing companies, they know it.
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The CEO of Emphasis admitted in twenty sixteen, there are
enough universities, enough ability to hire, enough ability to teach
from the United States of America.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
That's a direct quote.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
And when they did a whole analysis, when they were
able to get some comparative review between American workers in
terms of literacy, their ability to understand numbers and code
and all of that, which, like I said, are numbers
that are not readily available.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
There's a chart you can put up on screen.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Domestic workers outpaced the foreign born ones by every single measure,
in some cases many times over.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And by the way, Steve, when you look at who they're.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Importing, eighty three percent of the people that they're importing
for at least for the H one B category, are
all condemned to below the fifty percent mark of what
the average American tech worker makes. So spare me the
idea that we're importing the best in the brightest and
when you amortize it. When you look at it in
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terms of levels of skill, only six percent of the
H one b's that they're importing fall under the quote
unquote fully competent level per GOO analysis. So the idea
that because I had sleepovers when I was a kid,
therefore renders me eligible to be replaced by someone who
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doesn't speak English, doesn't know the code, and is probably lying,
and is part of a visa system that is used
for human trafficking and child trafficking and labor abuses and
horrific crimes that are a stain on this country. Is
absolutely insulting on so many levels, not just by Vivek,
but by the big business interests on both sides who
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are pushing it. And you're seeing it today, and I'll
bring will and if I can with this just idiotic.
I guess you're now allowed to say the word retard,
but I'll use it. This retarded Dignity Act that's co
sponsored and led by Republican Maria Salazar, who's the worst,
a complete listless vessel for open borders, amnesty.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Agenda and big business.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
But we'll tell the audience what House Republicans are currently
pushing for as we speak in terms of granting amnesty
and welcoming even more hordes of legal invaders, well, continuously
opening the door to legal invaders too.
Speaker 10 (22:29):
Oxymorons side, Yeah, thanks for having me on, Natalie. The
Dignity Act much like the supposed border security bill that
we saw late last year that was actually just a
bunch of funding for Ukraine and for Israel and for
Taiwan and then a jobs program for legal immigrants coming
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over the border.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's a bit of an oxymoron.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
So there's actually three parts of this that are really horrendous.
It creates three new federal programs. One is essentially the
Dream Act, which was pushed by you know, Barack Obama
and the Democrats and the early mid two thousands, which
would basically create a pathway to permanent residency for illegal
immigrant miners who are brought into the United States either
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by their parents or by human traffickers.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Or whatever what have you.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
The other component of this bill is something that Salazar
has dubbed the Dignity Program. So this would prevent the
immediate deportation of illegal immigrants who are employed, lack of
criminal record uh and then pay voluntarily pay into this
federal fund that will go towards the the retraining.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of US workers, of American citizen workers.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
And I would note that even even Chris Hayes over
at MSNBC has acknowledged that these job retraining programs, unless
it's a similar industry for a similar sector, don't actually work.
These people aren't getting you know, new job, you're not
you're not retraining coal miners to work in high tech JD.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And vice versa.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
Like this isn't this isn't something that actually really functions.
It's a way for the government to kind of give
itself a fig leaf here and say they're trying to
help American workers while they continue to import cheap foreign labor.
The third program that creates is the Redemption program. This
would grant permanent resident status to illegal immigrants who community
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who actually contribute to the Dignity Program. So this sort
of the third stage of an eventual amnesty kind of
plot that's laid out in this bill. You know, get
you right, This is about importing cheap foreign labor. And
the other sort of concerning component of the Dignity Act
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is Salazar is proposing to increase the country caps under
the H one B Visa from seven percent to fifteen percent,
so she's more than doubling the country caps and this
would have I think a very detrimental impact, especially with
you know, companies like infosysts that are tied to India
and are very focused on importing Indian immigrants into the
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United States to sort of work at these you know,
tech companies, but they may only have like three months
of sort of a boot camp coding training, and then
they've lied on their resume, they mind about their academic backgrounds.
So essentially this will allow India to further dominate the
H one B system and sort of let them eat
up more space within it and enrich these companies like
Infosis and Cognizance in others. So that's sort of the
(25:26):
really concerning components of this bill. And again they give
it the fig leaf of the worker Retraining Program, but
they also give it a fig leaf over I think
it's a five or six year budget window, a twenty
five billion dollars towards border security infrastructure, hiring on more
customs and border patrol agents, and hiring on more immigration
judges and support staff, which are all good things, Like
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let's do that as a standalone bill. We don't need
the lifting of the h one b VSIC caps. We
don't need the dignity program, we don't need the redemption program.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You know, it's just otherwise.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Hey, will hang on one second, Natalie hanging one second. We're
gonna go to break.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I want to because they're having the conference. They're going
to go out to Fort MacNair on Saturday to talk
about one reconciliation versus the other, and also Johnson, would
I guess Johnson tomorrow we'll talk about that. My question
to Will often when we get back is how realistic
is this going to be tucked into a reconciliation independent
all of it? Anyway, Hang on, Natalie Winners, who just
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Well.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Often this weekend's conference with the Republican House, is this
is this going to get slid into the the reconciliation
because they're talking about maybe two we want to we
want one that's just the border energy, maybe throwing a
little defense, but taxes and that it'll come later. Is
this going to get Is she going to make a presentation?
(29:25):
I mean, is this thing real or is this the
type of thing they just put out so they can
get the war rooms head blown up? And you know
Natalie doing researcher all weekend and me yelling into a microphone, sir,
it's lacks.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's it's very real.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
You know.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
The concern is that they're gonna try to slip this
into the reconciliation bill. You know, Representative Salazar, I didn't
just come up with this on her own. She's got
some very very powerful backers.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
On this bill.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
She even admits it on our website that she wrote
this in consultation with you know, big AG, with the
farming industry, with gration reform groups who are actually just
you know, pro mass immigration, open border, progressive nonprofits. So
she's ad there there's some firepower behind this piece of legislation,
and the concern is, you know, it could end up
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in the Reconciliation Bill, sort of like we saw with
the CR, the fifteen hundred page CR, where there was
some random pieces of legislation that have been sort of
sitting around Congress for the better part of a year
or two that just sort of popped up at it
and then their entirety. So that's the concern is that
get up this weekend and we could see this sort
(30:32):
of amnesty plan, this Clendestine amnisty plan that's again parading
as a border bill, gets snuck into the Continuing Resolution,
which would be very very bad.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, we can get will Upton.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Will was in the Treasury Department of President Trump's first term.
We strongly advocate that he'd be in a senior position
in the second.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We'll see over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well, in the meantime, you're at Nashville Pulse helping out Raheem.
Where do people go to get your writings and get
the National Pulses the place I go first in the morning. Uh,
I guess after CFP. I guess CFP is the first,
the National Pulse the second. Where do folks go?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, so it's the National Poulse dot com.
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We're entire users supported and readers supported, so our readers,
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You know, helps help us, helps us produce this work.
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Unlike unlike Representative Salazar, who's you know, obviously bought and
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So I would encourage our maide subscribe if you want
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Speaker 4 (31:44):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you and everything. Raheem the team
over National Pulse. So, Natalie, you kind of started as
an intern at the National Pulse. It's one of the
ways Raheem taught you how to do research. Not give
us your assessment. I want to go back to your
I want to go back to your statistion. I want
to tie him to Salazar's bill. Folks, please understand this.
(32:04):
If you go to National Pulson read it, or if
you're shocked about what will Upton just told you is
a Republican bill, understand when will Upton says this has
a lot of fire and back firepower back of it.
This is the biggest where the biggest donors are coming
in for the Dignity Bill. This is exactly what they're
going to try to slip in to make sure that you're, oh, yeah,
we're gonna have a border bill and we're going to
(32:25):
take care of the border, and they're gonna have some
lipstick on that to say, yeah, we're going to deport
some people, of which they'll never end up doing, but
they're going to codify in here, Natalie, what destroys American workers.
And this is not the progressive left. This is not
They've got elements of it. They're working with them. They
got elements of it. Because you have the congressman I
think down from El Paso, Texas, one of the most radical,
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she's the co sponsor.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But this is a Republican bill, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I think you have the congressman who what had videos
leak showing that she was helping AID and about illegal aliens.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Yeah, I think that's the one. I always say.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I like my border bills and my immigration policy opposed
and protested by the SPLC, the ACLU, all the left
wing groups. So if it's not, that's typically a telltale
sign that it's bad. But I mean, people shouldn't be shocked. Right,
this is business as usual in Washington, d C. And
it's absolutely disgusting. I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it,
(33:21):
but these companies, the inphosises of the world, the lobbyists
that they have, the people who lie, the Salazars, they
are the scum of the earth.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
And I truly, truly, truly mean that.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
And in the same way that we've been sitting here
all day and saying, Wow, wouldn't it be great if
I don't know, like the FBI or the Intel community,
instead of focusing on MAGA, graandmas and Catholic churches, actually
focused on I don't know, radical Islamic terrorism. Well, wouldn't
it be nice if our elected officials in the Department
of I don't know, Homeland Security emphasis on Homeland, Department
(33:54):
of Labor, Department of Commerce actually did the same for
the American workers. And in the same way that Islam
does not mean peace, but it means submission. Counter to
what you're told on MSNBC, dignity and unity and all
these stupid things that the Maria Salazars of the world
push on us, they don't mean that. They mean a
complete and utter capitulation and destruction of this country, right,
(34:17):
they say, right, Steve, I'm sure what I just said
will get smeared by MSNBC by whoever.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Oh, we're so nativist, we're so xenophobic.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Well, in the same way that it's not us who's
waging war on China with tariffs, right, it's not the
trade it's not Trump's trade war. In the same way,
that's not retribution that we won against the deep state.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
It's justice.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It's just the idea that America is a country where
our elected officials should actually do something for our citizens,
who what forty percent.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Don't even have four hundred dollars in a bank.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Account, and you want to ram through tens of thousands,
hundreds of thousands of foreigners, when one half of Americans
who have STEM degrees will never be able to get
a job in that field, well, seventy two percent of
people over the under the age of forty six working
in Silicon Valley are foreign born. And that of the
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foreigners that they're importing, only six percent of them constitute
the highest most skilled class.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And here's the number.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I'll raise you this, Steve, that everyone who's listening to
this show should be so mad about. Since the pandemic
jobs occupation, employment for foreign born people has gone up
by four point four million, and for domestic actual American
citizens it has fallen a net loss of eight hundred
(35:36):
and thirty three thousand. That's about a net spread of
five million jobs.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I mean, let that sink in.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
And by the way, the people that they're importing are
the ones who are what writing the code that are
now censoring American citizens, ripping off people because what Elon
doesn't agree with them on X.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Maybe if you import people from cultures that don't appreciate
what is it, the Anglo Saxon tradition of debate and
free speech, and they're essentially indentured servants where they know
they can't whistle blow, maybe that's how you get such
corrupt tech companies and tech policies coming out of Silicon Valley.
And by the way, the real tell and all of
this as scuzzy and scummy as Hunter Biden was, even
(36:18):
he wasn't involved in the whole H one B selling
visa fiasco, right, And I think the most offensive part
of this Steve is that our elected officials, Maria Sells
are included. They will stand up there and hype and
stress the importance of sovereignty when it comes to Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
The fight that we can.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Mount to actually defend the American worker is one thousand
times more winnable than Ukraine in terms of the chances
that they ever had defeating Russia. So maybe we should
do what they've done to American workers here, and maybe
we should take the brilliant idea of what importing Russians
to go fight for Ukraine, because apparently that's what we're
doing here, right, all these tech oligarchs who tell us
(36:59):
the reason why we need to import foreigners is so
we can be competitive with China, who what then don't
support delisting them from the stock exchange. The number two
largest country in terms of receiving H one B visas
is China, a country that actively has national security law
that stipulates that anyone of their citizens can be requisitioned
for any national security purpose by the Chinese Communist Party
(37:22):
at any time. And by the way, Microsoft, who's very
involved in this bill, Gates is one of the key
lobbyists for.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Hroun B expansion.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
If you really want to take down the Chinese Communist Party,
because apparently that's the justification that you're giving for destroying
the livelihoods of millions of American people, Well, you're also
the same company that literally built windows China government edition,
which is what the Chinese Communist Party runs on. And
that's how all these tech companies have made most of
(37:50):
their profits selling out and shilling to the Chinese Communist Party.
And now they want to rub it in your face
and say that to be competitive against China, you need
to see your sovereignty and cheapen the value of American citizenship.
And then Steve just to seal it all up in
a nice bow, they're now going to call it the
Dignity Act and say that you, as an American citizen,
(38:12):
if you don't want to open your door to every
illegal or legal migrant under the sun who is less
skilled than you and is going to take your children
and your grandchildren's job, that you're a nativist and that
you're a bad person. And you can tell I'm really
fired up about this. I don't usually get like this,
but it's days like these where you really question what
(38:32):
does it even mean to be American if the government
that is supposedly representing you is actively working to sabotage
your ability to make a living, to have a family,
to be able to just live a free and prosperous
life because they would rather make a quick buck off
of exploiting foreigners who don't really even speak English and
(38:55):
are not more skilled or talented than you. It is
absolutely to spic and these people truly are the scum
of the earth.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
And I mean that full la culture, full jock culture.
It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Give me a minute on the fact that the facts here,
you can't debate the facts, they're overwhelming, but they still
try to gaslight you. They still try to gashlight you
with These are high these are highly skilled foreign workers.
We need highly skilled farm Where you see it over
and over and over.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Is that a bold face line, ma'am?
Speaker 7 (39:28):
It is because.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
Every homb visa application that gets rejected is then just
filled by an American citizen, right, It's absolutely absurd. And
like I said, the only actual analysis that they've given
in terms of comparing foreign and domestic workers shows that
domestic workers outperform their foreign counterparts, obviously because they're American
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and they speak English, and they graduated from American institutions,
not random diploma mills from third world countries. It's so
obvious national security risks aside. But like I said, Steve,
you could even make a ten one hundred full time
stronger case than what I'm making now.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
But they purposely strip the data. And the real tell is.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
That I don't see any of these huge tech guys putting.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
Out massive mega threads talking about how h one b
people are so great and are more talented.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
The threads are that well, it's actually not that much
more expensive.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Like Okay, well, we're waiting for David Sacks. We're waiting
for the South Africans. We're the South Africans. We're the
South Africans. Teal David Sacks, elon, We're the South Africans.
When you need them, white South Africans are going to
tell the United States what in the hell to do.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
That's lovely.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
They've had such a great track record in South Africa.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Short commercial break back in the war in just a moment,
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Okay, Natalie, you've done so much work and you've already
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give us a heads up of what we're going to
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Well, look, I don't.
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Think i've achieved full outlass Donnis yet. I think you
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More of a rental.
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But Congressional Republicans aren't working overtime enough to destroy this country.
The Biden regime is secretly clandestinely using weird code and regulation,
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an asylum.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Officers and I'll leave the audience with this.
Speaker 8 (44:04):
In case you thought that being an American citizen met
that I don't know, your government would try to protect
you from national security crises and public health emergencies, Well
you'd be severely mistaken, because the Biden regime is actively
lobbying and actually essentially implementing a role through DOJ and
DHS to delay the implementation of a rule that would
(44:29):
allow border patrol border agents to deny migrants admission into
this country who may pose a danger to the United
States because they are represent a public health crisis or
public health emergency. So I don't know how that quite
squares with the idea of being a sovereign nation. But
apparently migrants with communicable diseases. You can't even kick those
(44:51):
people out anymore under Joe Biden. That's too radical a proposition.
So we'll be getting into all of that, and believe
me much.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
More where all of this came from tomorrow.
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She's a rogue.
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All the places. Thank you Steve for having me. Always
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Hey, they're pretty tough customers.
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They can throw a punch and h one be so
I'll take that.
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Amen, sister, Okay.
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of The War Room back in a moment
About the response from President elect Trump, who trolled in
outright misinformation and lies on social media yesterday, seizing upon
an erroneous Fox News report that this truck had just
come over the border, thinking that it was perhaps some
sort of migrant behind the wheel. So talk to us about, frankly,
how irresponsible that is and fear mongering, but also the
(00:21):
idea that this incident, with a new focus on national security,
may actually ease the path for some of his cabinet
nominations to get through.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean, the first reaction from President elect Trump was
to blame this on a border crossing that turned out
to be based on an erroneous report that had to
do with the rental of this truck. Ended up being corrected,
but Trump's post did not end up being corrected. And
then this morning, or I guess late last night, he
continued to hammer away at this idea that things are
out of control at the border. Now is the time
(00:52):
for tough policies to be implemented, and so on and
so forth. Look, I don't want to excuse Trump, and
I'm not. This is what we expect from him, right,
This is the reaction that we have come to anticipate
in these moments, and it is what it is. He's
not president yet, but we know that from past this
is how he reacts in terms of his nominees. I
(01:16):
think ultimately for the National Security slate, and by that
I mean Pete Hegseth, Telsey Gabbard, Cash Battal at FBI.
You can see the case where senators say he needs
his team in quickly, and even though we might have
some reservations about their views, their management experience, their past
and personal lives, we need to push these nominations through.
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The one sort of caveat I would add is that
when it comes to Cash Battel, it's not obviously he's
a controversial nominator on but he's likely to not be
considered right away. The reason for that is that the
Judiciary Committee the Senate will likely go with the Attorney
general nomination first, and they can't do things simultaneously. So
(02:00):
what we should expect is that Pambondi's consideration will happen
before Cash Fatah, which means that that might get pushed
back to a couple of weeks, potentially into February. So
that's just from a Timmy perspective, but I would make
the case. I would guess that Republicans who may be
on the fence about some of these nominees will ultimately
be persuaded to be supportive in light of what happened yesterday. Yeah,
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this is the crimal scream of a dying regie.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's not got a free shot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And all these networks lying about the people, the people
have had a belly full of bit I.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I know you're trying to do everything in the world
to stop there, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
War Room.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's Thursday, the second of January, the Overlower twenty twenty five.
This is kind of a continuation of our morning show.
We left you with this situation on the confirmations, also
the selection of the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Both of those are progressing.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
We have recommended, strongly recommended to the team from the
beginning that they should be pushing for the confirmations to
start right after President Trump is certified on the sixth.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
It's just start Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
They need Cash Betel in immediately. There's a tradition with
Senator Grassley and his committee Judiciary Committee to wait twenty
eight days after they get.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
The paperwork paperworker cash has been filed. We can't wait
for the twenty days.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Pam BONDI could be ready to go next week and
then right after that Cash matel. So they're both ready
to be sworn in right immediately after President Trump. We're
going to continue to push this. Pete Hegseth. Also, President
Trump want to have his national security and his I
think his intelligence team CIA, D and I and an
FBI intelligence, counter intelligence, counter terrorism.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
All of it ready to go.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We're here today breaking news with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders
coming out and jumping on the tech bros about the
lies and misrepresentations of really getting rid of the American
people to hire the replacements of which they are at
I don't know thirty third to forty percent lower into
work unlivable conditions. But we're here today and Natalie Winters,
(04:46):
my co who's going dremain. Natalie's been off doing some
research for the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Natalie.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
We're going to be joined by will Upton a little
bit later. We got a lot to go through here.
And also this bizarre report the White House put out
on you know, on white Christian nationalists hate hating on Muslims.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
We'll get to all that.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I want to make a statement now as you go up,
because you've gone start to go through this now, the
actual data to me, there is no all immigration coming
into this country right now is illegal. There's no legal immigration.
Of course, the ten to fifteen million just on Biden's watch.
He got in through the through here and it keeps,
it keeps going every day. We're going to go in
(05:27):
the next hour to Ben Berkwam down. I think he's
still in San Diego, wing to go Ben down for
an update on how the Biden regime is pushing people
through and across even at this late stage when they
should put their pencils down.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
But also on what's called legal immigration.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
When you actually go through here and look at it.
It's all illegal because every part of the system is gained,
and the numbers are staggering. It's not the little numbers
they put out. This has been a huge This is
a huge thing in the first term. The reason it
hasn't taken such prominence until recently is that we were
overwhelmed with ten to fifteen million illegal alien innovators and
(06:03):
you've got to get them out of the country. They're
going to sink the country. But all this other illegal immigration,
and that's sort of this. There is no legal immigration
in this country right now, which is stop using that term.
And the Republicans have got to stop using that as
a It's like, oh, until we can get to entitlements.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Who can't control spending. This is the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh well, I hate illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
No, you do.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
What you support is basically the replacement of the American citizen,
regardless of their race or ethnicity, with foreigners, regardless of
their race or ethnicity. This is no shot against the
Chinese people, and certainly no shot against the Indian people. Natalie,
walk us through whatever way you think is the best
to walk it through, because I know your head's been
blown up for the last seventy two hours, ma'am sure.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
I mean it's not just illegal, it's immoral, and it's
an affront to the idea that the United States of
America is a sovereign nation. I would sort of draw
a parallel in the same way that we saw legalized
fraud in the twenty twenty election. Of course at the
behest of all the tech bros. The Mark Zuckerberg's funding,
you know, the private ballot get out the vote operations
in exclusively Democrat areas. Like yes, I guess it was
(07:11):
technically legal for the laws we have on the books,
but there was no demonstrable benefit right to citizens of
the United States.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Who's a holding a free and fair election.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
But I think we have to be very serious and
approach this issue with the gravity and severity that it deserves.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
What do I mean by that? This is the culture war, right.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I know, conservatives love to get distracted by the bathrooms
and the shiny toys, you know, the Target Pride displays
and stuff like that. But the issue of the H
one B visa and more broadly, legal immigration, I think
it really comes down to two of the themes that
we have focused most intensely on the show, that being
transhumanism and globalism to ideologies that I think plague that
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sort of tech bro ruling class. And why do I
say that, Because what they are essentially trying to do,
with absolute disregard for the lived reality, the lived experience
of their fellow Mayora con citizens and workers, is essentially
terraform the United States into a you know, pro business
colony where the only thing that matters is profit maximization
(08:10):
for corporations that truly, to their core detest this country. Well, simultaneously,
I would argue bioengineering a workforce that I guess at
the end of the day, they want us all living
in you know pods with neurolinks in our brains, where
the paragon of success and the only variable that matters
is the bottom line for corporations that, like I said,
(08:31):
to their core, hate this country.
Speaker 9 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
The legal immigration system, I frankly look at it as
a sort of version of you know, cap and trade
with carbon emissions, but for humanity, which essentially neglects the
idea that citizenship means something. Right, The average American worker,
and we're going to get into all the facts, is
treated like.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Roadkill by people.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
The CEOs of these tech companies, the staff and companies,
the IT companies, though I think that's frankly more honorable
death because at least they don't have to train their replacements.
I mean, it's like a twenty first century Mayan sacrifice
where we have to train people from third world countries
that frankly, when you look at the data, they're not
more qualified. They're not more qualified because they're being taught
(09:16):
by their American replaces to take their jobs. It is
an abusive relationship, and I think legal immigration encapsulates the
way that the American people have been gas lit for
so long that we need to have this sort of
codependent relationship with the globalist world, with the global world,
with the global government, the idea that we need to
(09:38):
import massive numbers. And by the way, Steve and trying
to get all of the data and the numbers to
actually sort of flush out the contours of this program.
It's very similar to trying to get to the bottom
of the origins of COVID nineteen. The data is not
readily available because they don't want it to be, because
they know if they made it easier to make the case,
(09:58):
if the American people could act actually see these numbers
in whole, there would literally be revolution. And I say
that in all sincerity, but I want to start with
just some of the lies, the sort of I guess
you would call it the original.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Sin of this to hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I want to go back to that for a second.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
There's nobody better that you put on the case than
Natalie Winners when you've got to research something and get
down to the bottom of it. I mean, she she
seriously loves spend on a Saturday night going through federal
reports and documents. That's our idea of a good time.
Talk to me about that. There's nobody better. And when
you come back and say, this is the most they
obscure this. They go out of their way to block
(10:38):
any kind of rational human being from actually seeing what's
going on here.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Just give us an example of.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That, and what you had to do to kind of
even start the process of digging out the information.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Sure, well for starters, we don't even know how many
people are overstaying their visas, right, So even if you
want to look through the matrix just of the H
one B or the optional practical training. There's also the
whole entire slate of the E one through five visas.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
There's the L one, there's the F ones.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
You have no idea to know even if you're looking
through the legal paradigm of people who have been granted
right those visa applications, they don't track the number of
people who overstay them, for starters, the actual number of
people who are taking these non immigrant or immigrant visas.
It's like stored on two separate computers at USCIS where
(11:27):
they can even cross reference the data. But Steve, this
is a pattern of behavior, the sort of whatever you
want to call it, the permanent political class, the moneyed interest,
big business. In this case, it's big tech narrative and
information warfare that they've been waging.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
All the way back to the nineties. And why do
I say that.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
To get super granular, for example, there was this tech
lobbying industry group that was set up, the Information Technology
Association of America. They put out this long form report
basically saying that, oh, there's such a shortage of American workers,
we need to import a bunch of Indians to code.
And then of course they partnered with then Clinton's Department
(12:08):
of Commerce. They hosted a huge convention. The Commerce Secretary
actually spoke.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
At the event. New York Times gave it.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
I think it was a three thousand word cover story,
and it was fear porn. It was propaganda, the idea
that if we don't import people from every other country,
that America is going to fall by the wayside. And
it turned out that if you actually dug in to
the numbers that per the Government Accountability Office and I
quote serious analytical and methodological weaknesses and all of the
(12:39):
evidence that they were using for the study, it was unfounded.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It was never there.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
And you can replicate this sort of just bogus scientific
approach to all of the studies that, like I said,
drafted that original sin the idea that the H one
B all this stuff rests upon that there's a shortage
of American workers. There's a study that Bill Gates always
loves to cite the Chamber of Commerce, all the sort
of DC think takes where they say that, oh, well,
(13:05):
every H one B that's hired results in five American jobs.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Well, what that.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Doesn't tell you is that when they were running those numbers,
they purposely excluded all of the It outsourcing companies like Infosis, Tata, Whipro,
all of those companies. They only selectively chose the companies
to pull from. There was no correlation. And then even
if you actually used that logic that track record, you
were getting over one hundred percent in terms of jobs
(13:33):
being brought into the United States, so it didn't comport. Moreover,
there was a separate study that Mark Zuckerberg loved to
teut again the Chamber of Commerce, all these groups, where
they were saying that there were two point six more
jobs for every foreign born stem.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Tech person who comes into the United States.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Well, it's so funny because the researcher who did that report,
when she initially hit back to all of her tech
overlords with her initial findings, which showed well just the
exact opposite that they purposely told her to reorient the
data sets to look only at a certain timeframe to
get an idea where they say that there's, like I said,
two point six y two more United States workers or
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jobs for every foreigner that you import. And if you
go through the data, it is all bogus science.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
And there's more myths that I love to get entitled.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
On the show. It is hang on, Hey, hang on,
we're getting it all. Will Upton's going to join us.
Natalie Winners is on a roll. She's into the numbers,
and she can tell you by the facts that the
tech bros South, the South African tech bros, are bald
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Speaker 6 (14:53):
Back in a moment, just to steal man of a
Vake's argument. For the record, I'm very much against h
one B's and I think this tweet could have been
worded differently. But don't we see some truth in what
Vike was saying? And I'll start with with Blake that
there has been this slow motion decline in the mediocrity,
(15:17):
that there has been this acceptance that we're no longer
going to pursue excellence, that we're no longer going to
be the best at things anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Come on, Charlie, we almost had you all the way there.
We almost said that was Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk coming
down the fact that we don't need to import foreign
workers because the American workers are as good or better,
as good or better certainly not worse.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
We'll getting more of that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
No, Vavek's thing was no Charlie, it was terrible from
start to finish.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Natalie, You're back with us.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Will Upton wrote an incredible piece of day on the
Daily on National Pulse. I'm gonna toss over you and
let's drill down on Will's peace.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Ma'am.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sure, well, I would just say to uh Vivek, I've
been told what Because I'm an American, I don't know
how to sit down.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And study and research.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Well, I think last segment probably just disproved that I've
always been more of a supporter of jock culture that
I don't think they're mutually exclusive with Valedicatorian culture. All
that aside, we'll get into some more myths that those
lovely tech bros have been spinning.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
But hang on, but hang on, but hoo ho ho
ho stop stop because this gets back to Mow. You
came up from that southern California culture of intense women's athletics.
I mean, you were a great volleyball player and and
his whole hit on the sleepovers. I mean, come on,
it was so offensive and mo no, because here's one
of the powers of title line in the sports. The
girls play these teams sports now that their mom's probably
(16:50):
never had an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
To play at a in the scale of it is huge.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It leads to people that really know how to compete.
I mean, jock culture to me in the United States
is fantastic. Second, it's particularly been I think great for
young women, particularly after Title nine. I mean, my two
sisters were terrific. My older brother and my dad were
great athletes, as was my kid brother. I was not
I was I would say a good athlete, but they
(17:14):
were great, and my dad just the thinking of the time.
My two sisters were not that involved in athletics.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
They just weren't. It was just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Although in your generation in Mo in southern California, all
the little girls played team sports. It was very intense
from an early age, and you saw as they went
on it's how you build leadership. It was quite extraordinary.
I think Title nine. That's one of the reasons, as
you know, Natalie, we fight so hard for it. Given
the fact that the transgender you know, the transgender movement
(17:42):
tried to destroy it. But you saw right there the
jock culture that infused kind of for little girls back
in the eighties and nineties and early two thousands was
the reason I think we have so many assertive young
women today that really take charge and have tremendous leadership.
And I kind of saw it from the beginning with
mo Well.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I mean, I think it.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Goes back to what you view the United States of
America as. Do you view it as a shell company,
a holding company for the vested interests of the globalist
ruling class, where children need to be raised from day one?
How they can become the best maximizers of profit and
value for corporations that to their core and meet this country?
Or are they human beings right chosen and birthed and
(18:24):
come into this world by the hand of God, who
should be allowed to I don't know, engage in sports,
have a life outside of being an indentured servant like
so many of these HB one or their spouses on
the H four visas the lives that they live again,
no shade to them. I'm sure you and I are
enterprising people. We would be doing the same thing. But
(18:44):
the idea that American people have to compete with essentially
modern day slaves in order to quote unquote be successful
is offensive and it's wrong. And if you want to
do that, fine, go do that in another country that's
not the United States of America. The Founding fathers were
the Founding fathers because they appreciated individual liberty and freedom,
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and they had.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Other things going on in their lives.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
They loved the idea of community and culture and township
and kinship, not the idea that it was all about
boosting profits for I don't know, the British Empire insert
the new tech oligopoly into that sort of matrix. That
critique there, but it's so insulting and Steve to the
core of it. It's also just a bald faced lie
(19:30):
that I reject the premise. Right when you look at
the data, which, like I said, is not readily available,
these foreign workers that they're importing, even if jock culture
were bad, are not even better, right, I mean, seriously,
when you look at when you look at the numbers
since before President Trump took office, Steve seventy two percent
(19:51):
of stem engineers that have been hired in Silicon Valley
under the age of like forty six or fifty are
foreign born. Over half of American STEM graduates will never
work in STEM fields. And the people who are involved
on the sick, awful, sinister side of the dark side
of this trade. This it staffing companies, they know it.
(20:13):
The CEO of Emphasis admitted in twenty sixteen, there are
enough universities, enough ability to hire, enough ability to teach
from the United States of America.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
That's a direct quote.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
And when they did a whole analysis, when they were
able to get some comparative review between American workers in
terms of literacy, their ability to understand numbers and code
and all of that, which, like I said, are numbers
that are not readily available.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
There's a chart you can put up on screen.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Domestic workers outpaced the foreign born ones by every single measure,
in some cases many times over.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And by the way, Steve, when you look at who they're.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Importing, eighty three percent of the people that they're importing
for at least for the H one B category, are
all condemned to below the fifty percent mark of what
the average American tech worker makes. So spare me the
idea that we're importing the best in the brightest and
when you amortize it. When you look at it in
(21:09):
terms of levels of skill, only six percent of the
H one b's that they're importing fall under the quote
unquote fully competent level per GOO analysis. So the idea
that because I had sleepovers when I was a kid,
therefore renders me eligible to be replaced by someone who
(21:30):
doesn't speak English, doesn't know the code, and is probably lying,
and is part of a visa system that is used
for human trafficking and child trafficking and labor abuses and
horrific crimes that are a stain on this country. Is
absolutely insulting on so many levels, not just by Vivek,
but by the big business interests on both sides who
(21:52):
are pushing it. And you're seeing it today, and I'll
bring will and if I can with this just idiotic.
I guess you're now allowed to say the word retard,
but I'll use it. This retarded Dignity Act that's co
sponsored and led by Republican Maria Salazar, who's the worst,
a complete listless vessel for open borders, amnesty.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Agenda and big business.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
But we'll tell the audience what House Republicans are currently
pushing for as we speak in terms of granting amnesty
and welcoming even more hordes of legal invaders, well, continuously
opening the door to legal invaders too.
Speaker 10 (22:29):
Oxymorons side, Yeah, thanks for having me on, Natalie. The
Dignity Act much like the supposed border security bill that
we saw late last year that was actually just a
bunch of funding for Ukraine and for Israel and for
Taiwan and then a jobs program for legal immigrants coming
(22:49):
over the border.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's a bit of an oxymoron.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
So there's actually three parts of this that are really horrendous.
It creates three new federal programs. One is essentially the
Dream Act, which was pushed by you know, Barack Obama
and the Democrats and the early mid two thousands, which
would basically create a pathway to permanent residency for illegal
immigrant miners who are brought into the United States either
(23:13):
by their parents or by human traffickers.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Or whatever what have you.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
The other component of this bill is something that Salazar
has dubbed the Dignity Program. So this would prevent the
immediate deportation of illegal immigrants who are employed, lack of
criminal record uh and then pay voluntarily pay into this
federal fund that will go towards the the retraining.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of US workers, of American citizen workers.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
And I would note that even even Chris Hayes over
at MSNBC has acknowledged that these job retraining programs, unless
it's a similar industry for a similar sector, don't actually work.
These people aren't getting you know, new job, you're not
you're not retraining coal miners to work in high tech JD.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And vice versa.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
Like this isn't this isn't something that actually really functions.
It's a way for the government to kind of give
itself a fig leaf here and say they're trying to
help American workers while they continue to import cheap foreign labor.
The third program that creates is the Redemption program. This
would grant permanent resident status to illegal immigrants who community
(24:21):
who actually contribute to the Dignity Program. So this sort
of the third stage of an eventual amnesty kind of
plot that's laid out in this bill. You know, get
you right, This is about importing cheap foreign labor. And
the other sort of concerning component of the Dignity Act
(24:42):
is Salazar is proposing to increase the country caps under
the H one B Visa from seven percent to fifteen percent,
so she's more than doubling the country caps and this
would have I think a very detrimental impact, especially with
you know, companies like infosysts that are tied to India
and are very focused on importing Indian immigrants into the
(25:03):
United States to sort of work at these you know,
tech companies, but they may only have like three months
of sort of a boot camp coding training, and then
they've lied on their resume, they mind about their academic backgrounds.
So essentially this will allow India to further dominate the
H one B system and sort of let them eat
up more space within it and enrich these companies like
Infosis and Cognizance in others. So that's sort of the
(25:26):
really concerning components of this bill. And again they give
it the fig leaf of the worker Retraining Program, but
they also give it a fig leaf over I think
it's a five or six year budget window, a twenty
five billion dollars towards border security infrastructure, hiring on more
customs and border patrol agents, and hiring on more immigration
judges and support staff, which are all good things, Like
(25:47):
let's do that as a standalone bill. We don't need
the lifting of the h one b VSIC caps. We
don't need the dignity program, we don't need the redemption program.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You know, it's just otherwise.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Hey, will hang on one second, Natalie hanging one second. We're
gonna go to break.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I want to because they're having the conference. They're going
to go out to Fort MacNair on Saturday to talk
about one reconciliation versus the other, and also Johnson, would
I guess Johnson tomorrow we'll talk about that. My question
to Will often when we get back is how realistic
is this going to be tucked into a reconciliation independent
all of it? Anyway, Hang on, Natalie Winners, who just
(26:23):
dropped the bomb of all bombs. Seventy two percent of
STEM workers or foreign or not Americans not going to
work in STEM after going taking all their education in
that you see the lies. There is no legal immigration
into this country. It is all one hundred percent of scam.
And that's why the Worm is calling for a one
hundred percent moratorium on all immigration until we sort this
(26:48):
mess out and put the American people, the American worker,
and particularly the American citizen first. Short commercial break back
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the firestorm starts. Because they're talking this weekend at the conference.
They're having a conference of fort men there, so they
come in tomorrow. Ideal is going to be cut tonight.
I think I understand you're not fans of Speaker Johnson.
(27:36):
The warm is a big time not a fan of
Speaker Johnson. But I think they're going to try to
cut a deal because President Trump wants Johnson as speaker.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Some deal's going to try to be cut.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
They'll pick the speaker tomorrow, they'll be sworn to pick
the speaker tomorrow, they'll certified President Trump, despite what Jamie
Raskins trying to do on Monday. In between, on Saturday,
they're going to go and have a uh, They're going
to have all day conference from nine in the morning
to four or five in the afternoon. They're just the
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Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Often this weekend's conference with the Republican House, is this
is this going to get slid into the the reconciliation
because they're talking about maybe two we want to we
want one that's just the border energy, maybe throwing a
little defense, but taxes and that it'll come later. Is
this going to get Is she going to make a presentation?
(29:25):
I mean, is this thing real or is this the
type of thing they just put out so they can
get the war rooms head blown up? And you know
Natalie doing researcher all weekend and me yelling into a microphone, sir,
it's lacks.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's it's very real.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
You know.
Speaker 10 (29:41):
The concern is that they're gonna try to slip this
into the reconciliation bill. You know, Representative Salazar, I didn't
just come up with this on her own. She's got
some very very powerful backers.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
On this bill.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
She even admits it on our website that she wrote
this in consultation with you know, big AG, with the
farming industry, with gration reform groups who are actually just
you know, pro mass immigration, open border, progressive nonprofits. So
she's ad there there's some firepower behind this piece of legislation,
and the concern is, you know, it could end up
(30:12):
in the Reconciliation Bill, sort of like we saw with
the CR, the fifteen hundred page CR, where there was
some random pieces of legislation that have been sort of
sitting around Congress for the better part of a year
or two that just sort of popped up at it
and then their entirety. So that's the concern is that
get up this weekend and we could see this sort
(30:32):
of amnesty plan, this Clendestine amnisty plan that's again parading
as a border bill, gets snuck into the Continuing Resolution,
which would be very very bad.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, we can get will Upton.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Will was in the Treasury Department of President Trump's first term.
We strongly advocate that he'd be in a senior position
in the second.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
We'll see over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well, in the meantime, you're at Nashville Pulse helping out Raheem.
Where do people go to get your writings and get
the National Pulses the place I go first in the morning. Uh,
I guess after CFP. I guess CFP is the first,
the National Pulse the second. Where do folks go?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, so it's the National Poulse dot com.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
We're entire users supported and readers supported, so our readers,
through subscriptions and through donations.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You know, helps help us, helps us produce this work.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Unlike unlike Representative Salazar, who's you know, obviously bought and
paid for it seems like by h corporations and progressive
immigration groups. Uh so, we don't have any major donors
you know where we don't have, you know, advertisements or anything.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We're entirely subscription based.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
So I would encourage our maide subscribe if you want
to continue seeing original research like we did with the
Dignity Act.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you and everything. Raheem the team
over National Pulse. So, Natalie, you kind of started as
an intern at the National Pulse. It's one of the
ways Raheem taught you how to do research. Not give
us your assessment. I want to go back to your
I want to go back to your statistion. I want
to tie him to Salazar's bill. Folks, please understand this.
(32:04):
If you go to National Pulson read it, or if
you're shocked about what will Upton just told you is
a Republican bill, understand when will Upton says this has
a lot of fire and back firepower back of it.
This is the biggest where the biggest donors are coming
in for the Dignity Bill. This is exactly what they're
going to try to slip in to make sure that you're, oh, yeah,
we're gonna have a border bill and we're going to
(32:25):
take care of the border, and they're gonna have some
lipstick on that to say, yeah, we're going to deport
some people, of which they'll never end up doing, but
they're going to codify in here, Natalie, what destroys American workers.
And this is not the progressive left. This is not
They've got elements of it. They're working with them. They
got elements of it. Because you have the congressman I
think down from El Paso, Texas, one of the most radical,
(32:47):
she's the co sponsor.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But this is a Republican bill, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I think you have the congressman who what had videos
leak showing that she was helping AID and about illegal aliens.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Yeah, I think that's the one. I always say.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
I like my border bills and my immigration policy opposed
and protested by the SPLC, the ACLU, all the left
wing groups. So if it's not, that's typically a telltale
sign that it's bad. But I mean, people shouldn't be shocked. Right,
this is business as usual in Washington, d C. And
it's absolutely disgusting. I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it,
(33:21):
but these companies, the inphosises of the world, the lobbyists
that they have, the people who lie, the Salazars, they
are the scum of the earth.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
And I truly, truly, truly mean that.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
And in the same way that we've been sitting here
all day and saying, Wow, wouldn't it be great if
I don't know, like the FBI or the Intel community,
instead of focusing on MAGA, graandmas and Catholic churches, actually
focused on I don't know, radical Islamic terrorism. Well, wouldn't
it be nice if our elected officials in the Department
of I don't know, Homeland Security emphasis on Homeland, Department
(33:54):
of Labor, Department of Commerce actually did the same for
the American workers. And in the same way that Islam
does not mean peace, but it means submission. Counter to
what you're told on MSNBC, dignity and unity and all
these stupid things that the Maria Salazars of the world
push on us, they don't mean that. They mean a
complete and utter capitulation and destruction of this country, right,
(34:17):
they say, right, Steve, I'm sure what I just said
will get smeared by MSNBC by whoever.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Oh, we're so nativist, we're so xenophobic.
Speaker 8 (34:25):
Well, in the same way that it's not us who's
waging war on China with tariffs, right, it's not the
trade it's not Trump's trade war. In the same way,
that's not retribution that we won against the deep state.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
It's justice.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It's just the idea that America is a country where
our elected officials should actually do something for our citizens,
who what forty percent.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Don't even have four hundred dollars in a bank.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Account, and you want to ram through tens of thousands,
hundreds of thousands of foreigners, when one half of Americans
who have STEM degrees will never be able to get
a job in that field, well, seventy two percent of
people over the under the age of forty six working
in Silicon Valley are foreign born. And that of the
(35:09):
foreigners that they're importing, only six percent of them constitute
the highest most skilled class.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
And here's the number.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
I'll raise you this, Steve, that everyone who's listening to
this show should be so mad about. Since the pandemic
jobs occupation, employment for foreign born people has gone up
by four point four million, and for domestic actual American
citizens it has fallen a net loss of eight hundred
(35:36):
and thirty three thousand. That's about a net spread of
five million jobs.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I mean, let that sink in.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
And by the way, the people that they're importing are
the ones who are what writing the code that are
now censoring American citizens, ripping off people because what Elon
doesn't agree with them on X.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Maybe if you import people from cultures that don't appreciate
what is it, the Anglo Saxon tradition of debate and
free speech, and they're essentially indentured servants where they know
they can't whistle blow, maybe that's how you get such
corrupt tech companies and tech policies coming out of Silicon Valley.
And by the way, the real tell and all of
this as scuzzy and scummy as Hunter Biden was, even
(36:18):
he wasn't involved in the whole H one B selling
visa fiasco, right, And I think the most offensive part
of this Steve is that our elected officials, Maria Sells
are included. They will stand up there and hype and
stress the importance of sovereignty when it comes to Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
The fight that we can.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Mount to actually defend the American worker is one thousand
times more winnable than Ukraine in terms of the chances
that they ever had defeating Russia. So maybe we should
do what they've done to American workers here, and maybe
we should take the brilliant idea of what importing Russians
to go fight for Ukraine, because apparently that's what we're
doing here, right, all these tech oligarchs who tell us
(36:59):
the reason why we need to import foreigners is so
we can be competitive with China, who what then don't
support delisting them from the stock exchange. The number two
largest country in terms of receiving H one B visas
is China, a country that actively has national security law
that stipulates that anyone of their citizens can be requisitioned
for any national security purpose by the Chinese Communist Party
(37:22):
at any time. And by the way, Microsoft, who's very
involved in this bill, Gates is one of the key
lobbyists for.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Hroun B expansion.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
If you really want to take down the Chinese Communist Party,
because apparently that's the justification that you're giving for destroying
the livelihoods of millions of American people, Well, you're also
the same company that literally built windows China government edition,
which is what the Chinese Communist Party runs on. And
that's how all these tech companies have made most of
(37:50):
their profits selling out and shilling to the Chinese Communist Party.
And now they want to rub it in your face
and say that to be competitive against China, you need
to see your sovereignty and cheapen the value of American citizenship.
And then Steve just to seal it all up in
a nice bow, they're now going to call it the
Dignity Act and say that you, as an American citizen,
(38:12):
if you don't want to open your door to every
illegal or legal migrant under the sun who is less
skilled than you and is going to take your children
and your grandchildren's job, that you're a nativist and that
you're a bad person. And you can tell I'm really
fired up about this. I don't usually get like this,
but it's days like these where you really question what
(38:32):
does it even mean to be American if the government
that is supposedly representing you is actively working to sabotage
your ability to make a living, to have a family,
to be able to just live a free and prosperous
life because they would rather make a quick buck off
of exploiting foreigners who don't really even speak English and
(38:55):
are not more skilled or talented than you. It is
absolutely to spic and these people truly are the scum
of the earth.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
And I mean that full la culture, full jock culture.
It's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Give me a minute on the fact that the facts here,
you can't debate the facts, they're overwhelming, but they still
try to gaslight you. They still try to gashlight you
with These are high these are highly skilled foreign workers.
We need highly skilled farm Where you see it over
and over and over.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Is that a bold face line, ma'am?
Speaker 7 (39:28):
It is because.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
Every homb visa application that gets rejected is then just
filled by an American citizen, right, It's absolutely absurd. And
like I said, the only actual analysis that they've given
in terms of comparing foreign and domestic workers shows that
domestic workers outperform their foreign counterparts, obviously because they're American
(39:50):
and they speak English, and they graduated from American institutions,
not random diploma mills from third world countries. It's so
obvious national security risks aside. But like I said, Steve,
you could even make a ten one hundred full time
stronger case than what I'm making now.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
But they purposely strip the data. And the real tell is.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
That I don't see any of these huge tech guys putting.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
Out massive mega threads talking about how h one b
people are so great and are more talented.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
The threads are that well, it's actually not that much
more expensive.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Like Okay, well, we're waiting for David Sacks. We're waiting
for the South Africans. We're the South Africans. We're the
South Africans. Teal David Sacks, elon, We're the South Africans.
When you need them, white South Africans are going to
tell the United States what in the hell to do.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
That's lovely.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
They've had such a great track record in South Africa.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Short commercial break back in the war in just a moment,
use your host. Stephen came back.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Okay, top of the hour. We're going to go to
the border. I've got a lot to get through. Also,
Brian Kennedy and Harnwall are going to be with me.
Make sure Birch Gold, I need you to read the
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How can Natalie Wonders ever be associated with something that's outlaw?
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Don't know.
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Never order anything into your fully comfortable that you know
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Speaker 4 (43:05):
Okay, Natalie, you've done so much work and you've already
blown heads up. Your stuff's already going viral here in
this first hour. And I want to make sure we
play ten any time tomorrow because a lot if you
like today, there's a lot more where that came from. Natalie,
give us a heads up of what we're going to
do at ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Well, look, I don't.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
Think i've achieved full outlass Donnis yet. I think you
only get that for serving four months. And Dan Barry
I identify as.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
More of a rental.
Speaker 8 (43:31):
But Congressional Republicans aren't working overtime enough to destroy this country.
The Biden regime is secretly clandestinely using weird code and regulation,
particularly through DJ and DHS, to transform immigration policy sort
of through three main silos. One is for he and
(43:51):
BH two be reform. You can imagine who they're benefiting
with those changes. They're also kind of gumming up the
whole asylum system in terms of the interplay between as
an asylum.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Officers and I'll leave the audience with this.
Speaker 8 (44:04):
In case you thought that being an American citizen met
that I don't know, your government would try to protect
you from national security crises and public health emergencies, Well
you'd be severely mistaken, because the Biden regime is actively
lobbying and actually essentially implementing a role through DOJ and
DHS to delay the implementation of a rule that would
(44:29):
allow border patrol border agents to deny migrants admission into
this country who may pose a danger to the United
States because they are represent a public health crisis or
public health emergency. So I don't know how that quite
squares with the idea of being a sovereign nation. But
apparently migrants with communicable diseases. You can't even kick those
(44:51):
people out anymore under Joe Biden. That's too radical a proposition.
So we'll be getting into all of that, and believe
me much.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
More where all of this came from tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Natalie is not a rubbel and she's not an outlaw.
She's a rogue.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
That's where she fits into the war room production team here.
And so, guys, when you call Natalie and and and
pitch the idea of a dinner in a movie on
a Saturday night and she tells you, no, I've got
to go through the Federal Register. She's not kidding. She
would blow you off of saying I'm washing my hair.
When she says I'm going through the Federal Register, she
means it. Natalie, what is your social media? So bringing
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a catch up with you between Nwan Tomar Well.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
I'm still on x AS now. I don't know after
this show if I will be, but.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It's Natalie g Winters on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
All the places. Thank you Steve for having me. Always
an honor to co host with you.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Thank you, Han And probably they're going to do to
you what they did to Laura Lumer, to bury it
or do whatever it is. I forget all the techniques
that you know. Elon has a glass jaw, so you
can't handle Laura Lumer and Natalie Winter's That's okay.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Hey, they're pretty tough customers.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
They can throw a punch and h one be so
I'll take that.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Amen, sister, Okay.
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