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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To negotiate a new treaty. Are you going to ask
the Canadians.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
To hold the vote? What is the strategy.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I can't assure you. You're talking about Panama and Greenland. No,
I can't assure you on either of those two. But
I can say this, we need them for economic security.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The Panama Canal was built.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
For our military. I'm not going to commit to that now.
It might be that you'll have to do something. Look,
the Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being
operated by China. China, and we gave the Panama Canal
to Panama. We didn't give it to China, and they've
abused it. They've abused that gift. It should have never
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been made.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Giving the Panama Canal is why Jimmy Carter lost the election,
in my opinion, more so maybe than the hostages.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The hostages were a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But if you remember, and nobody wants to talk about
the Panama Canale now because you know it's inappropriate, I guess,
but because it's a bad part.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Of the legacy. But he was a good man. Look,
he was a good man.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I knew him a little bit and he was a
very fine person, but that was a big mistake. Giving
the Panama Canal to Panama was a very big mistake.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We lost thirty eight thousand people.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It cost us the equivalent of trillion dollars, maybe more
than probably the most expensive they say it was the
most expensive structure if we call it a structure, which
I guess you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Can ever built.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And giving that away was a horrible thing, and I
believe that's why Jimmy Carter lost the election, even more
so than the hostages.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Those two things. We're going to be changing the name
of the.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, which has
a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory. The
Gulf of America. What a beautiful name, and it's appropriate.
It's appropriate. Listen, I don't care what he says.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Speak were considering military force to acquire Panama in Greenland?
Are you also considering thelitary force.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
To annex and acquire no economic force because Canada and
the United States, that would really be something. You get
rid of that artificially drawn line and you take a
look at what that looks like, and it would also
be much better for financial security. You don't forget we
basically protect Canada. But here's the problem with Canada. So
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many friends up there. I love the Canadian people, They're great,
but we're spending hundreds of billions a year to protect it.
We're spending hundreds of billions a year to take care
of Canada. We lose in trade deficits, We're losing mass.
We don't need their cars. You know, they make twenty
percent of our cars.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We don't need that. I'd rather make them in Detroit.
We don't need the cars.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We don't need their lumber. We have massive fields of lumber.
We don't need their lumber. We have to unrestrict them
because stupid people put you know, restrictions on But I
can do that with an executive order. We don't need
anything they have. We don't need the dairy products. We
have more than they have. We don't need anything. So
why are we losing two hundred billius? As I called them,
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Governor Trudeau, I said, listen, what would happen if we
didn't subsidize you? If we didn't because we give them
a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We help them.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
As an example, we're buying icebreakers and Canada wants to
join us in the buying of icebreakers. I said, you know,
we don't really want to have a partner and the
buying of icebreakers. We don't need a partner. But I no, right, nope, no, right.
Here's what we have.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We have a right not to help them.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
With their financial difficulties because we are thirty six trillion
dollars too. We're going to start knocking it out pretty fast.
But we're going to be able to do it because
of energy and other things.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Greenland, your position is clearer.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
But have you directed your staff to take these specific
actions to draw plans and can you elaborate again interview?
You didn't rule out a military psion, and.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, we need Greenland for national security purposes. I've been
told that for a long time, long before I even
I mean, people have been talking about it for a
long time. You have approximately forty five thousand people there.
People really don't even know if Denmark has an illegal
right to it, but if they do, they should give
it up because we needed for nancial security.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's for the free world.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm talking about protecting the free world. You look at
you don't even need binoculars. You look outside, you have
China ships all over the place. You have Russian ships
all over the place. We're not letting that happen. We're
not letting it happen. And if Denmark wants to get
to a conclusion, but nobody knows if they even have
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any right title or interest, the people are going to
probably vote for independence or to come into the United States.
But if they did do that, then I would tear
if Denmark at a very high level.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
To or the quickest way for Russia to penetrate our
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naval defenses the steaming from the Arctic to the North Atlantic.
This is our military presence in the Arctic. These were
Russia's Arctic military positions in nineteen ninety five. Today infantry, naval, radar,
search and rescue, air defense, the biggest build up since
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the Soviets fell. This is where we lost Russia's most
sophisticated submarines in the North Atlantic for three weeks. This
is where we found their Lasharic submarine, which we noticed
only because it caught fire. We have no idea how
many more there are, but we think they're around.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Here, here, here, and here. This is Kreagan.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
You know what.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
Kregan is a nuclear submarine base in Scotland.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
All of the UK's nuclear weaponry is housed at Kregan.
It's what makes them one of the nine nuclear powers. Also,
it's the only base in Europe where we can dock
our nuclear subs. It's the last place we have any
hope of detecting a Russian sub before it's in the
vast Atlantic barreling toward New York. Kreagan is target ie
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in the European theater of war. The Scots hate nukes
and they hate English overreach, but they really hate having
a bullseye on their heads. If Scotland had gone independent,
they would have closed the base in a second. When
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we took our four is out of Iceland, Russian subactivity skyrocketed,
as did air incursions when we pulled our combat brigades
from Europe.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Anyone Russia annexed Crimea.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Is there a universe in which the United States could
afford to lose the base in Scotland.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
No, But you went to Margaret Royland, so did you.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I didn't ask her to blow.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Up a ship.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Neither did I. It was supposed to be.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Some bent metal and nobody dead. So it's not your fault.
It's entirely my fault. You think I'm suggesting it's not
my fault. I own it and.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I will carry it, but I will not let it
tear down the president.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
That sounds convenient to me, That sounds like a reason
to bury it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't care what it sounds like to you.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I can name every one of the forty three people
who died in this debacle.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I couldn't do that up.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It was forty thousand or forty million vaporized in a
nuclear conflict. This is my game board, the whole god thing.
This is yours. Keep your eyes on your own paper.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you tried to do everything in the world to
stop there, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Mega media?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
War Room.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Here's your host, Stephen Kba.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
It's Tuesday, seventh January. You're of a Lord twenty twenty five.
Jack Pasova joins me. Look, the last thing we're going
to do is be taken off the focus of what
we have to of the of everything President Trump has
to do and has to accomplish. But today has Britain
pretty extraordinary. President Trump is not trying to change the conversation.
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We know their issues with what he said the other
day with doctor. We know there's issues about this H
one B Visus and American jobs. We're on top of that,
so we see, we understand that. But there's something this
is about the Western hemisphere. It's about a geostrategic idea
and concept kind of the Monroe doctrine on steroids.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I want to bring in Jack Pasovic.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
Jack right there, and I want to thank that's from
that flicks The Diplomat and if you haven't had a
chance to watch that, you really should. That's the Alison
Janney playing Secretary State, and of course Kerrie Russell very
dramatic rendering Jack, what you and I are taught his
naval officers the Greenland Iceland UK gap, which is the
way that the Soviet submarine force, particularly the fast Attacks
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and the Boomers, come through that gap. Greenland is massively strategic.
It was strategic in World War Two. It's actually more
strategic today. President Trump blew away conventional thinking in marlag
And you heard Von Halliard saying, they're sitting there, these
little guys.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You're not you can't be serious. He goes, oh, yeah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So well, you.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Couldn't be serious about economic or military measures. Go yeah,
I wouldn't rule that out.
Speaker 10 (10:45):
Trump's blowing heads up in marl Lago. Give me your assessment, sir,
of manifest destiny two point zero.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Well, Steve, it's very clear.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
And by the way, the idea of the United States
taking control of Greenland, annexing Greenland, or entering into any
kind of agreement a territorial agreement with Greenland goes back
a very long time. Seward actually originally pursued this all
the way back at the same time as pursuing the
territory of Alaska, which then was controlled by the Russian Empire.
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It even goes back to World War Two when the
exiled Prime Minister of Denmark actually signed the initial treaty
with the United States regarding the defense of Greenland. Why
because the Nazis had occupied Denmark proper at the time.
That's why the US was allowed into Greenland in the
first place, so that Nazi Germany would not be able
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to establish their base.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Is there.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
What Trump is doing is now taking this to the
next logical step by saying, well, wait a minute, the
Chinese have this massive icebreaker fleet up in the Arctic.
The Russians are already establishing megaports up there. People are
talking about turning that into the Polar Silk Road. The
rise of ricks represents a massive geostrategic rival to the
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United States when it comes to the economics of the situation.
And of course all this goes back to Admiral Alfred
Mahan and the understanding of the rise and the influence
of sea power on history. And if you understand sea
I don't know. People want to talk about yah, memes
are great and all, and the you know, there's resources
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there as well. But again, this is about the influence
of sea power, and it always has been because if
you control who controls the seas, controls the world. This
was the entire premise of the British Empire, and the
sun never sets.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Now.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
I'm not saying that America needs to be imperial, far
from it. Things like Ukraine, things like the Middle East
that needs to be wound down. But when we're talking
about the very sea lanes that affect the economic well
being and prosperity of the American people who live here
now right now, control over those northern sea routes in
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the northwestern part of our hemisphere as well as or
the northeastern as well as the Panama Canal clearly clearly
falls to us.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
We're going to put that. We're gonna put that.
Speaker 10 (13:14):
There's a map that shows President Trump's vision of make
America great.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
There is right there. We're going to show that on.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
Going out all the way from the Panama Canal to Greenland.
I understand, we got a couple three problems here at home.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We've got to figure out how to pay for everything.
Speaker 10 (13:29):
But it's an expansionary vision in the western hemisphere and
the protection of America first, that's what's so stunning. And
he had a frank conversation with the American people today.
We're going to have one the second hour, we're going
to go from Rome to Switzerland to India to bring
in some of the top geopolitical thinkers in the world
and talk about what's going on. Mckinder one oh one
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is control of the Eurasian land mass. That's what you
see going on with the Chinese Communist Party, the KGB
and Moscow, the mula's in Persia. President Trump is countering
geostrategically with a Mahanian theory all the way from the
Panamac Canal to Greenland. And his conversation to day with
the meetiing you saw him choking, just blunt. The Chinese
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Commist Party controls the Panama Canal. That was never the deal.
We didn't give it to Panama to give it away
to somebody else. Sorry, not sorry, pretty blunt talk. Also,
Robert Kagan at The Atlantic has one of the most
outrageous pieces I've seen in a long time, and I
see an outrageous piece every day blaming President Trump, blaming
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President Trump for the coming defeat of Ukraine, saying it's
a catastrophic defeat for Donald J.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Trump. Posto's with me.
Speaker 10 (14:47):
We're talking strategy, national security next in.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
The war room.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
In America, this.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Is my game board, the whole god thing, this is yours.
Keep your eyes on your own paper.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
So Jack right there from the diplomat, that's one of
the best explanations of the strategic importance of Greenland in Iceland,
what they call the Gaya Gap.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That chessboard he's got. Canada.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
President was having a serious conversation about I don't know,
emerging with Canada, having Canada. He had a very lucid
description of the money we put in, etc. A very
intelligent conversation on Greenland. And the best of all was
the Panama Canal, the Panama Cony. He was quite blunt.
The Panama Canal is it was never meant. It was
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not built by the United States. It was built for
our military. It is never built fit by to have
our existential threat enemy, the Chinese Commerce Party control it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's just not going to happen.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
People in Panama, I got to understand that things have
got to change. There are there are there going to
be big changes, just like yesterday. Some of the people
in Central America are talking, some of the leaders that
they are saying, we're not gonna They're not gonna let
the United States use their military basis, if anybody's deported, Hey,
I got news for you. And this is why I
advise a summit in uh in McCallen, Texas. Bring everybody together,
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Let's get them in a room. Trump's a deal maker.
Let's get everybody on the same page that this is happening.
The deportation is going to happen, and there'll be some
economic deals cut. But if there's any kind of resistance,
you're going to get tear if you're going to get
put into the into the ozone economically. President Trump just
said it there when Vaughn Hilliard von herd and was
choked on his microphone and say, mister President, you can't
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you're not serious. I know you're not seriously, goes, Hey,
I'm damn serious. Jack Pasobac your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, Steve, it's you know, and I say this. You know,
we've got a couple of Navy.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Officers here posse. So I say this as someone who
actually served there. But you know, if these guys down
in Central America are other parts of the Caribbean have
an issue with the United States using their overseas bases,
then why don't you go have a conversation about that.
With the Castro family because they've been trying to kick
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us out of Guantanamo Bay since they came to power.
But where is the United States's oldest overseas based ask you, Well,
it's in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Why is it? Why is it that the very same territory.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
That the rough Riders ran rough shot over with Teddy
Roseveout leading the way there in the war against Spain
in eighteen ninety eight. Why is the United States maintain
Guantanamo Bay for this long? Because it is in our
geo strategic and geopolitical interest to control the sea lanes
of our own backyard, the Gulf of America, absolutely has
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to happen. Maintaining dominence over the Caribbean absolutely has to happen.
And by the way, and I say that because I
include the Panama Canal clearly that is the key choke
point here in this region, in the northern Hemisphere. But
also because China has gone Look, China has been going
through on a buying frenzy across all of the Caribbean,
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running debt trap diplomacy. They already practically own Jamaica. Go
and look at all of the other crown callings not
to mention what their their influence in Cuba, Venezuela, et cetera.
This is all over the Caribbean. And so when it
comes to military, yes, absolutely we need to go back
to the Monroe doctri and we're not talking about democratizing
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the Middle East. And by the way, the same people
who sold you a bill of goods on the full
zalund of trying to democratize the Middle East and say
we just go back to places like Afghanistan or get
involved in Ukraine more, they're going to turn around and
say that we shouldn't do anything to actually benefit the
American people who live here.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
Now, if he can put us on a split screen, Denver,
and let's put that map up for the America first people,
Jack and I are going to address right now changing
the conversation because there are a number of the warroom
posse and others, the folks who watch Real America's Voice
up on Getter over, the Rumble crowd a little rough
over in Rumble that are really critical about changing the conversation.
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But I want to put that chart up if you
for the for the hardest core America first guys, Okay,
if you want Fortress America. Trump's given your Fortress America.
Look at that right there, all the way from Panama
up through Greenland, and he's talking about Canada. Can he
pull any of this off? Hey, it's Donald Trump. Remember
how they mocked him about being president. Remember how they
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mocked him ridiculing when we had his back this group
in January twenty twenty one. I think that was a
lot harder than what he's talking about now. But he's
got a vision. What I like about this is a vision.
This is Fortress America. This is kind of what James
Munroe in that end of the kind of revolutionary Founders
Framers generation. Munroe being the last president from Massachusetts or Virginia,
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really the founder by the way, led into really the
Andrew Jackson period.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Go ahead, sir, well, I was just gonna say that
the Monroe doctrine again for folks who don't realize this,
this was done at the end of the Napoleonic Wars,
and this was done at a time where the corollary
to the Monroe doctrine was that the United States would
not go around poking into the affairs of other empires
in Europe or Asia. That was the idea that we
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would maintain our sphere of influence, they would maintain theirs,
and then we would have diplomatic treaties beyond understanding how
the relationship would go. That was the original Monroe doctrine.
So understand that now. I will say, though, for the record, Steve,
I'm not exactly on board with the whole North American
union concept. You know, Greenland, Greenland, Panama, Canal. Yeah, sure,
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but Canada and Mexico. I don't know the I'm looking
at the I'm looking at the debt, debt to earnings
report on those things, and it's it's not so great.
Maybe maybe we could talk about reworking the trade these
I don't know this.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
This is not this is this, This is not an union.
This is an actual takeover. Sometimes it might be hostile.
I love the vision, uh, I want to go back
the docta comment. President Trump made the obviously the situation
with HB one visas, even the two what I call
the Summer Omnibus, which is going to go away. He's
meeting with the Senate tomorrow, Freedom Caucus on Friday. We're
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gonna get all that work done. I think I feel
highly confident. You go to see two bills, all of it.
But geo strategically, this is where we this is part
of that. We say the three lines of work, this
is all three. You've got the kinetic war on the
Eurasian land mass, You've got the deportations of the of
the illegal alien evaders, and you got the debt and
the deficit. I want to go to this Kagan piece.
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We have to address this Robert Kagan. I want to
put in perspective who Robert Kagan is. Okay, he's Victoria
Newland's husband. So first off, they're they're the most scariest
couple in America, the deadliest, the one that has brought
most evil to the world. This is the king and
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queen of Neo khon Ism, the Color Revolution, Victoria.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Newley, you know, her hands are all over this Ukraine
situation as Kagan.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Kagan's also the one that I think it was in
January first of twenty twenty four, I think we kicked
off the year in twenty four he wrote this huge
five thousand word piece to kick off the new year
in the Washington Post. That would be the Jeff Bezos
Amazon Washington Post. Yes, that would be Amazon that did
the forty million dollar deal with Malania Trump day. We'll
talk about that tomorrow. That's going to take a day
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to digest. Okay, that he wrote a piece of Jack
Posobic that gave the moral authority they were looking for
a brutus. He made the case of why Caesar had
to be assassinated, right, and they.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Were looking for a brutus.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
This is what we kept saying, went crazy about the
elites would kind of drive people to an assassination attempt
and give them the moral authority to do it against
President Trump. This is one of the most purely evil
men in this country. Now he has written a piece
in Atlantic and Atlantic. You have to understand, folks, is
becoming now the intellectual center of the resistance to populist nationalism,
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the elite globalist they're kind of limited hangout now is
the Atlantic magazine. You're getting all the public intellectuals over there,
Tom Nichols, in this entire crowd, these haters, Jack Posobic,
You've worked on this thing from the beginning. Kagan is
actually saying that Donald Trump's getting rid of the biggest
catastrophic defeat of any president.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's Ukraine.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
They are trying to stick us with the Ukraine War debacle.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This is how shameless they are.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
They are literally saying that President Trump is going to
have this massive defeat because they're not going to send trups,
we're not going to send more money, we're not backing
the phony Zelensky oligarchs. That we're about to have a
massive defeat. It's going to be Donald Trump's fault, and
the American people are going to flip and say, yeah,
Trump had the biggest military defeat in American history.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Your thoughts, sir, Well, it's amazing how the air saying
the quiet part out loud, because I thought from the
start that this was all this was all Ukraine's war.
I thought it was Ukraine fighting Russia. I didn't realize
it was the United States fighting Russia. I was told
that the United States would never be facing Russia on
the battlefield. I was told that none of that was
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going on. But it seems that Kagan is he's got
a limited hangout for us here today, folks, because he's
peeling back a few layers of the onion saying, well,
all right, this actually has all been about the US
versus Russia.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
So what did I just say.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
The opposite of the Monroe doctrine is picking fights with
the Russian Empire. The opposite of the Monroe doctrine is
going and getting involved in the bloodlands of Eurasia, getting
involved in a land war in Eurasia.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
That is Mackinder theory.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
By the way, for you political and geomilitary strategists out there,
that is the Heartland theory, which Russia of course subscribes to,
absolutely ascribes to. It is we don't need The United
States has always been the United States is Athens. The
United States has always been a naval power, going back
to what the Great White Fleet under again Teddy roosevelts,
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so Kagan, what he understands is that his influence is waning.
And what he also understands is that there are going
to be a number of investigations going into Victoria, Newland
and their activities getting this Color Revolution and the minon
Q kicked off Ted years ago in the first place,
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because we know this don't stop with Hunter Biden.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Hunter Biden was just the bag man.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Hunter Biden was just a grundon amen a massive investigation
into into Victoria.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Newland, the entire Color Revolution or hands are all over it.
Speaker 10 (25:54):
Jack, thank you for opening the show Where do people
go to get you?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
By the way show?
Speaker 10 (25:59):
A Posto show today with Raheem was a classic Where
do people go to get your content?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Thank you very much so Steve.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
Of course, Human Events Daily we're up two pm Eastern
every day right here, Real America's Voice, and on the
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Speaker 10 (26:17):
Have we tracked down Charlie Kirk as Charlie kirkstill in
Greenland's gonna be doing the Charlie Kirk Show from Greenland
this week?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I mean he he's looking for nine Oak of the
North up there, don juniors.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Up there spearfishing or something. I don't know what Charlie's doing.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Look, where's that Locherik? Where's the loch?
Speaker 10 (26:39):
It's on fire, brought off the starboard bow sir. Wow,
what an open that's the diplomat Netflix, Alison Janney, Kerrie Russell,
very instructive short break back in the warm.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
In a moment, Nay who Stephen came back?
Speaker 10 (27:04):
Okay, the fact checking Department has contacted me.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know, Vaughan Halier does have.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
A pretty significant fan base among the war and Posse
and they made a comment about his voice is not
that high. I'm a check in a second, But I
want to use Vaughn as an example of what I
call just old fashioned American hustle and a Vaughn's a
left winger that works for a left wing news organization
called MSNBC. But we met Vaughan years ago. He drew
(27:31):
the card to follow Carrie Lake around and harass her.
I remember that Carrie Lake would have these impromptu press conferences,
be one hundred and fifteen degrees, be like six reporters,
and Vaughan would be sitting there, ask her some cheap
shot question, and she would sit there and just her
whole Prescott's be ripping on Vaughan. But because of that
grit determination chasing carry around for a couple of cycles,
(27:53):
I think governorship in twenty two and then the Senate
in twenty four, and being relentless. He's now got the
White House watch on the White House correspondence. He's down
at mar Lagos. I just want to check it out.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
It was an interesting question, President Trump. Blow him up.
In the answer.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
You judge whether my imitation of his voice was wrong.
The fact checking department wants to know.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Listen, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
What he says speakable considering military force to acquire Panama
in Greenland, are you also considering military force to annex.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And acquire no economic force, because Canada and the United States,
that would.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Really be something.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You get rid of that artificially drawn line and you
take a look at what that looks like, and it
would also be much better for financial security.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You don't forget.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
We basically protect Canada. But here's the problem with Canada.
So many friends up there. I love the Canadian people,
they're great, but we're spending hundreds.
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Of billions a year to the Revolutionary our founding fathers,
the revered framers of the Constant and the Revolutionary generation,
even some of the folks that came before that, they
had one obsession that they never could pull off, and
that was Canada.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Both in the Revolutionary War.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
But General Montgomery went up there, I think Aaron Burn's
part of the contingent, and guess what they got caught
as you guys in the East Coast and got caught
in a bitter, bitter winner. Ever since General Wolfe on
the Plains of Abraham defeated Montcalm and the British really
took over Canada. It was an obsession of the Revolutionary
generation and in the Framers, that generation kind of two
(29:37):
back to back to annex Canada. In the Revolutionary War,
we took a couple of shots. The War of eighteen twelve.
You could actually argue that was a war that was
principally about the territories around the Ohio River that we
wanted to expand into. And because of the treaty that
was cut after the Revolution, they kind of said no,
(29:59):
this is this is off limits to you guys. And
also in Canada, so there is a long history here.
Also in World War Two, Canada is always punched way
above their weight class. I know a lot of people
make fun of Canada today, but hey, the Canadians in
World War two, World War One, and World War two punched.
(30:20):
They punched and punched hard. On d Day in Normandy,
remember when of the entire beaches was assigned to the Canadians,
and Canadians that were toughest bootloader. The military has always
been fantastic. I want to tell people President Trump, and remember,
we're on it, folks. We're not letting the conversation be
changed Tomorrow, President Trump, when he comes up for President
(30:43):
Carter's the state funeral on Thursday. President Trump is going
to meet with the Senate. We already know. There's all
kinds of discussions behind the scenes. I believe we're going
to get what the war room and the War of
Posse wants, which is two bills. Let's get something out
as quickly as possible that focuses on the border, focuses
on immigration, focuses on everything we have to do and
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the deportations.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Get the ball rolling also with some energy in there.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
Let's get that, and then it gives you time, buys
you time to do whatever you want to do in
the economics, the death ceiling, all of that in a
summer bill.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I don't think.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
I think the appropriation is going to be passed and
going to be approved before that. That's another whole issue
with the dead ceiling that's going to come in March,
and I don't think we're going to expand that anymore.
I think it'll be done then. So we're not going
to allow that. The conversation to be changed. Given that,
let's go back to that map for a second president.
They say President trumpau he's just transactionally goes that is
(31:40):
a that is a geostrategic vision. He's already changed the
conversation when it comes to we're going to talk in
the next hour at the Indo Pacific, what's happening in Ukraine,
this situation with our naval forces. President Biden today, the
illegitimate Biden regime released.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
You had Eric Prince on here essentially hooties right there
at Gitmo that are that are shelling?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
The the two battle.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Groups we have in the Red Sea we shot down
an American was at F eighteen on on on landing
on final right there. If you if you're if you're
the hardest core America first, the hardest core, you say,
I only want to worry about this. I don't want
to go with Steve even you with the Chinese counties
parties too much, it's too much. I don't want to
(32:30):
think about thy Taiwan. I don't care about the Chips.
It's too much, you know, forget the Middle East, forget Ukraine,
even view Bannon and the and the anti CCP element
of this is too much. The faction is too much.
I just want to finish in America. Look at that
right there, that chart, that map. I guess it is
not a chart or be a naval a device that
(32:52):
map from the Panama Canal all the way up through
Canada and into into Greenland, and Greenland is quite strategic,
very strategic in World War Two.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It also changes the strategic dynamic.
Speaker 10 (33:06):
Big league, particularly in that slot that the Russian's got
to come through, where they've got to where their submarines,
the boomers and the fast attacks have to come through.
So President Trump is quite serious. I don't believe he's
trying to change the conversation. I realize that, you know,
supporting Elon Musk, and that's not a hard support. It's
(33:27):
like the other day when people say, oh, Steve, you
can't say anything about Johnson, president Trump supports us. I said, well, hey,
he supports him. Tell you he doesn't or this whole thing.
Oh no, you know, the political operatives over at the
Trump things say no, no, no, no, you have you
guys have to get in locked up, you have to
back the one bill. No, we don't if we don't
think it's correct, and we think it hurts President Trump.
(33:48):
We think it hurts the Magma movement, we think it
hurts the United States of America. We're just not going
to fall in line say, oh, you know, that's terrific.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's not terrific.
Speaker 10 (33:56):
We absolutely think the one bill is a a ticket
to polluell one bill of that scale. First off, we
fought omnibuses from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
What is this all about?
Speaker 10 (34:06):
We want single subject bills so you can get into
the details again, to the facts and see whose ox
is being gored normally, normally it would be the deplorables.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's the way the cartel runs. That's the way it runs.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
So we're on point on all those and as it
comes down, clearly we've gotten some additional bad news on
the on the confirmations. And we told you the other
day this was and this is why we had that
orders of succession and now things are rolling up. But
we had the order of succession on Saturday morning. What
happened on Friday night? Cause it's quite suspicious. And you
(34:44):
see right now, Pam Bondi, there's grassly doesn't have the
I think the FBI report. Well, hey, look the traditional
twenty eight days you wait from getting all the paperwork
and waiting. We just don't have time to do that.
We don't have time to do that. Pam Bondi's find
she has been. She was Attorney General in Florida for
(35:04):
eight years. No, you should do the background trick, but
you don't have to wait like the twenty days. So
talking about Pam Bondi not even going not next week,
but the week after, might be the first of February
before Pam Bondi even gets a hearing that at the
committee level. Remember, just so everybody understands process, because process
is going to be extremely important here over the next
couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Critical path in process, the process on.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
The confirmations they go to the the committee in charge,
whether it's Judiciary for Pam Bondy and for Cash, or
whether it's Armed Services for a brother Hegseth right, or
whether it's Senate Intel for Radcliffe and for Tulci Gabbert,
whether it's Health and Human Services for Bobby Kennedy and others,
(35:50):
you know, their deputies, assistant secretaries. All this sudden conferms
will come later, but right now you're talking about not
even having a team. So I think Scott Bessant, I think,
but Beston's scheduled for the sixteenth and seventeen. I think
Pete is next this Tuesday, a week I think Pete's
going to be the fourteenth, But that doesn't mean the
Armed Services Committee probably not going to vote.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
To the end of the week.
Speaker 10 (36:09):
Of the following week, maybe it does it quicker and
maybe gets to the center floor. So President Trump has some
team that that order of succession is essentially saying who
in the Biden regime is going to run this deal
before President Trump gets his guys in, We're in a crisis.
We're in a crisis, even before you get to President
Trump's geostrategic vision. It's quite interesting when Vaughn Hilliard asked
(36:32):
that question. Vaughn was very pointed about, Hey, you taught
about a military and economic here in Greenland in Panama,
you certainly wouldn't think about that in Canada. His response, well,
I think economic, Yeah, it may be some economic pressure.
President Trump is coming, I think more and more to
the realization and a believer in what I refer to
(36:54):
as economic warfare that you know, just not a trade deals, tariffs.
And this this is why I go back and hearken back.
We're going to have EJ and Tony. He's going to
start the six o'clock hour. Ejay's joined is going to
be able to join us. He's only got a few minutes,
but EJ's going to talk about that Financial Times article,
and I really want everybody to go read the Financial Times.
I think Grayce and Moe have got it up so
(37:16):
that you can see it without a subscription. It's very important.
It really takes a part in maga economics. Maga economics
is based upon trade in tariffs and what I call
the American system. The American system was created by an
individual named Alexander Hamilton. Alexander Hamilton, who was obviously one
(37:41):
of the big drivers in back of the Constitution, he
was also a driver of this system called the American system.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
He did this with his report kind of.
Speaker 10 (37:51):
Like a parallel to the Federal if the Federal's papers
were the politics of it. The economics of it was
put out in a thing called the Report on Manufactures
Port on Manufacturers, and has not gotten historically the height
and awareness of like the Federalist papers of the Constitution,
Declaration Independence, but from a business and economic part and
(38:12):
really thinking through the American business model.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hamilton thought it through.
Speaker 10 (38:18):
That's why I've always said, if you take all the
founding fathers and you've got to leave Washington out because
Washington was just a different level. But if you take
the rest of the Revolutionary generation and the founding Fathers,
to me, there's no doubt that Hamilton's the greatest. Number one.
He was his courage and bravery. He served as the
aide de camp to General Washington. He was what many
(38:43):
people said, and particularly Aaron Burrn, people that were Jealousyhm,
he's the son that General Washington never had. General Washington
had deep he loved this guy and as a fact
that Hamilton. He would not let Hamilton take a field
command when Hamilton found was obviously not ready for it,
but deserved it. And finally they had a break. They
(39:03):
had a falling out about that. He finally let Hamilton
do the last charge at Yorktown. The last redoubt was
taken by then Colonel Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Who was brave, beyond a brave.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
Later he become a general and actually thought about redoing
the army and a standing army. But his work not
just on the federal's paper, but he thought through. He
was the first finance minister. That tension between Hamilton and
Jefferson was palatable between kind of a nationalist that believed
(39:36):
in a strong central government and a strong central bank
in the whole capital markets part of it, which was
Hamilton versus kind of the Jeffersonian Yeoman democrats of the.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Pastoral nature of that.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
That tension has been throughout American history between populist and
the elitist. And remember the least elite person was Hamilton.
He came from a very questionable circumstances down in the Caribbean,
earned everything just by hard work, intelligence in grit whereas
Jefferson was from one of the landed aristocracy of the
(40:11):
Commonwealth of Virginia, really the English aristocracy planet. Who replanted
here who was went to revolutionary France. It was much
more of a revolutionary than Hamilton. Interesting juxtaposition. This is
where today this tension underlying populism and elitism the central
(40:32):
business model of the United States and what's under attack here.
President Trump is not trying to change the conversation, but
he's looking at the United States in a broader geo
strategic context. So for you America firsters that are hey,
we need fortress America, Hey, Trump is going to deliver
your fortress manifest destiny two point zero short break back in.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
A moment, who Stephen came back the part I like best.
Speaker 10 (41:06):
I hadn't been able to get to the Golf of America.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean, who thinks like this? It's so genius. This
is Trump. You're getting best Trump.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
With all the pressure on this guy and trying to
assassinate him, you're getting best Trump.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
The golf of America.
Speaker 10 (41:24):
Marjorie Taylor Green emptg has already put in legislation. I
think to change it and have the you know, the
ocean of graphic guys, all the people who do the charts,
change it off.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Baby.
Speaker 10 (41:35):
This reminds me when I was deployed to the back
under President Carter back in the seventies. Before your most
of your parents were teenagers. Are some of your parents
are teenagers. You have this thing about the briefings in
the in the North Arabian Sea. You know, if you
talk to the Arabs, the Saudis, you can't call it
the Persian golf. It's got to be called the Arabian golf.
(41:56):
Not kidding, very they're very sensitive about that. This Golf
America is quite brilliant if you like the types of geopolitics.
Next hour, we're going from India to Switzerland to Rome
to talk more about it. Of what's going on. I'm
gonna get Ben Harna on the conversation. EJ is going
to be here about the Financial Times alone to this
(42:17):
magnificent article on Maganomics Peter Navarro.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
The work Peter Navar is done.
Speaker 10 (42:22):
And President Trump once again looking at things outside the
box making trade and tariffs, but trade the central driving
force of Meganomics. As an industrial power. He doesn't lead
by capital markets. He leads by industrial power. This article
on the ft by their senior person on currency in
(42:46):
capital markets Gini and Tet, and she's quite brilliant. One
of the most brilliant people over there is is now
they've got all kind of blame and they're you know,
we're doing this, and we're doing this. You're still going
to get that, right, You're still going to get that
you got to get from the economists and Financial Times.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
You're going to get that. But they're treating it with respect.
Speaker 10 (43:06):
And you do see in there that you get to
the central heart about the Chinese Commis party in China
and Bush forty one and Clinton bringing them into Globalists,
bringing them into the World Trade Organization and the most
favorite nation status and what that meant. This will really
get you up to speed if you like these type
of things. Jim Rickers one of the reasons we have
Rickerds as a contributor. He's one of the best on
(43:26):
geopolitics and capital markets. Go to Ricards Warroom dot com.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You get there.
Speaker 10 (43:32):
He's got all the gym's books, that got all the
newsletters Paradigm Press.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
You can subscribe to any one of the newsletters. They
got it all laid out right there.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
So if you like, if you're part of our audience
has inclined to that type of subject matter, it's absolutely terrific.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Rickords is a brilliant guy. We're going to have him
on later in the week.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
Jim Rickards, Ricords Warroom dot Com and all one word
and you can go and get all the different aspects.
You get a discount by putting in Warroom or putting
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This one has screwed up your life. You don't even
know about it, but now you will learn up about it.
We've made it very accessible, Like I said, next hour.
We're going to be on fire here. There's a lot
to go through, particularly on the subcontinent of India in
Switzerland about the Ukraine War.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Folks, it's coming on President Trump.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Kagan's now proposing the guy that said, yeah, we should
find a brutus to assassinate Trump that would be more justified,
is now saying that Maga and Trump, it's our defeat.
It's a catastrophic defeat for America, and it's on our watch.
We're to blame for it. You've got to read this piece.
It's absolutely astounding. That's why we're going to have times
(44:50):
of turbulence. They're coming to presses on President Trump right
of the box. This is gonna be in the first
couple of days, and President Trump is going to hit
them with I don't know, fifty to one hundred execut
of orders.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's going to be shocking awe.
Speaker 10 (45:02):
On Monday afternoon, the twentieth, we're gonna be NonStop coverage.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
On this on the War Room of Real America's Voice.
Speaker 10 (45:08):
We don't want to miss a second of it because
I can tell you from the seventh from the seventeen experience,
they're going to get into the White House. They've been
working NonStop and they're going to fire off the football.
We just need more muscle velocity with this, with the
with the what I call the two reconciliations, let's go
now as.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Soon as possible. With one.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
Michael Lindell has been doing the Lord's work. Mike, you've
been down at a prison. I think you talked for
ten hours. Talk to me about you got a prison ministry,
what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (45:36):
Yeah, I gotta go tell me there and do some
more speeches. You guys, we uh uh if you've got to,
If you guys want to help out the Lindell Recovery
Network dot org. I'm down here doing speech, just getting
we were talking about addiction and getting people to our
Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. But another one, Steve is
this is a pilot program where my pillow is going
to be donating blankets, beds, pillows. This is in Texas,
(46:01):
across the Texas prisons to get these to the to
these prisons. And so we're very we're very proud to
be to help out in their pilot program. They approached
me and I said, absolutely, my pillows there for you.
And so I've had a really good day. I've getting
back to this is what I was doing before all
(46:22):
the election stuff. And I told the young man, said,
this is my first speech about Jesus in addiction since
since back in twenty one, early twenty one. But but yeah,
it's been it's been a very rewarding day. I've I
did one speech and I think everyone in the place
came up and hugged me and they can all relate
to it. You know, I'll be being an ex crack addict.
And you know I spent nineteen days in solitary ones
(46:44):
and we were talking to you know, talking about that,
and I told these guys, you know where when you
get to where you're going, you're going to look back
at all of it. Every You wouldn't pull one piece out,
and I wouldn't change anything in my life tonight where
I'm at right now. And I told you we had
a lot of people will fill on the Lord today.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Mike, we only got about a minute left.
Speaker 10 (47:06):
Tell me about tell me about Danbury doesn't have pillows
and got no blankets, right, so you're doing the Lord's work.
And appreciate you. I know the guys in prison appreciate that.
Sell me a pillow or sell me some flannel. I
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Speaker 2 (48:32):
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Speaker 10 (48:35):
We're populist. Mike Lindell, we love you, brother, Go back
to your ministry. The Attorney General Minnesota is on. He's
on Mike Lindell because of his charitable work. Think about
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