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January 28, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

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BEN HARNWELL
NATALIE WINTERS
FRANK GAFFNEY
JOHN GUANDOLO
NATALIE DOMINGUEZ
MIKE LINDELL

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the final scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
For pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval
on these people.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Full of it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Mega media?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Worry. Here's your host, Stephen kVA.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, I'm going to go to Ben and I'm gonna
go to Ben in Rome for us because i want
to finish this.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
The situation in Ukraine before we talk about at the
White House.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then I've got Frank Gaffie, the guy's coming to
bet the Middle East and Israel all that.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We're going to also go to Nevada.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Talk about historic event yesterday flipping Nevada on registrations to Republicans.
We're getting it all done today, Birch Gold. Make sure
there's gonna be times of turbulence. You see this what
happened to the stock market. Yes they largest six hundred
billion dollars in the video's down market cap loss. Yes
they can always make it back, but who knows the

(01:28):
market itself? The equity markets in the United States combined
combo platter one point eight trillion dollars in one day.
I think we're gonna go through some turbulence. Ten year
bond all over the all over the place. They're waiting
for the cuts from Doze, waiting to see what we
can balance this budget. CNBC this morning had a guy

(01:49):
on one of the backbenchers talking about dynamic scoring. We're
gonna get into this because I know you want the
receipts dynamic scoring versus the way the way CBO does it,
in the way OMB does it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We're gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Into it, probably this afternoon. To make sure that you're
fully up to speed on how you actually look at
the math. Okay, to make sure we're not fooling each
other and we're not having happy talk. But you're talking
about hard cash, but how it really comes in and
how it really gets spent.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's a President Trump. He froze three trillion.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Dollars I think last night in the system USA all over.
He's stopping foreign as, stopping USAID, He's stopping all kinds
of payments everywhere, He's stopping everything except Social Security and
medicare boom. He wants to see where it is in
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(03:49):
Harnwell Ukraine, so raheem broke this story. You've been all
over and you've been adamant because you follow this for years.
We've been right on everything we said about Ukraine down
to the fifth desk place. And now President Trump, who
opposed this war. If you hadn't had the presidency stolen,
it wouldn't happen to be one point eight million people

(04:10):
either not wounded or alive on the battlefields over there
and there. You can tell what the apparats are doing.
Kagan's told you whether they're trying to suck President Trump
in to make it his conflict and he has to
avoid that because he's got this. Every institution the city
is trying to force him to do that. And you
saw the Ukrainian papers. You saw they've got the hundred

(04:31):
day plan. What is your what is your response to that?
Ben Harnweld, given your seat in the Eternal City and
watching this like a hawk, Good morning, Steve.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Well, it's not good news for the war in Plosse.
And I'm going to straight into the killer line here
because the proposals say, and it's basically the Kellogg plant,
Lieutenant General Ken Kellogg's plan that's been leaked to the
Preserve of the last four weeks or so. There are
some interesting things, however, in this that I haven't read elsewhere.

(05:04):
I'll go into those in just a moment. But the
warri imposs is going to want to know where the
meat is, Why I don't like this, Why I would
vote down, vote this. If I had a vote on this,
it'd be a vote down straight away. Because the key
point here for Americans is that the Ukraine would continue
to receive military support from the US, and that I

(05:24):
think is something that's going to be offensive to a
lot of people who are listening to talking just earlier
on in the show, the American economy is bleeding out.
There is no money for this, and yet that the money.
You're going to see more budget lines, more budget arguments
overcoming months and years to get this military support to Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, let's talk, but let's hang on, hang on, let's
talk about the process that they're talking about. They say
immediate cease fire by April fifteenth, then the beginnings of
a negotiated deal by I think May. They talked about
a security guarantee American money, but they don't mention any
American troops. So it's April fifteenth for a season. I'm

(06:06):
just trying to repeat what Press is telling them. They've
clearly seen the American plan or the discussions of Kellogg
and other people. So it's April for a ceasefires at it,
and then May for more general framework of an agreement.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Formerly, it's April the twentieth for the declaration of the ceasefire,
and in the preceding weeks there were supposed to be
phone calls between the White House and President Putin and
the White House and President's lenacy to get to that
declaration of ceasefire, and then before May the ninth, after
the ceasefire, there will be an international peace conference which

(06:44):
is going to hammer out the terms of the treaty,
the peace treaty, and that text should be released around
May the ninth. Now here are the interesting things, Steve,
you asked about the process. What's in here? There are
some the more impossib will be interested in some of
the things that I think General Kellogg is pushing here.
For example, right after May the ninth, Kiev would be

(07:09):
asked not to extend martial law or to mobilize any
further troops. Now, if you're saying, hang on, hang on,
why would the Americans be pushing that? What's the importance
of martial law? But the first thing you're going to
think about is that under the present constitution we get
that goes back to the nineties, that you can't have
any elections in Ukraine under Marshal law. We know this,

(07:29):
We've discussed this hundreds of times. And if you're thinking, well,
you know, are the Americans here maneuvering something so to
have elections in Ukraine? If that was your suspicion, you
might be interested to read something else. Is hearing these
proposals that Kiev, under the terms of this agreement would
have to allow parties advocating for peace with Russia to

(07:53):
run in those elections, and of course those parties have
all been prohibited for the last three years. So it
seems to me very likely that one of the aspects
of this, and by the way President Zelenski his office
have said this is not a valid peace proposal that
they've received on the Americans is it's been created, probably

(08:13):
by the Russians.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
To stabilize the situation.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
I can you know, I.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Can't particularly see Ukraine going for this because it gives
Russia everything he wants, specifically in terms of the dom
Bass and some people who referring to buffer zones, it's
not buffer zones. It's quite clear that Ukraine would officially
recognize sovereignty of Russia in those zones, which is pretty

(08:39):
much that Gold Mission accomplish from from the mission point
of view.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hang on, hang on, hang hang on, who slow down
the buffer zones because remember this is a paper that
goes to Ukrainian. Essentially, what this thing says is they're
going to partition Ukraine. And I hate to use such
a harsh term, but Ukraine would be according to this
will end up being partition not just the Danbas, but

(09:04):
potentially other areas were Russian army after and this is
the Ukrainians moving back from Kursk right their incursion there,
but other parts of Ukrainian territory it looks like it
would be partitioned under Russian control?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Am I reading that correctly? Sir?

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Look, I think it goes further than that, because when
you hear about partition, perhaps you think of Berlin. Perhaps
you think of the division between the d military zone
between North Korea South Korea. This is a fit for
my understanding of this supposedly elite text. What is actually
doing is it's handing those areas of Russia controls officially

(09:41):
over to Russia. They would become part of the Russian Federation.
And I think I think that goes further than what
is ordinarily understood by partitioning. Some of the alternative plans, right,
not the Kellogg plan. You had the Vance plan and
and you had the Rick Granel plan. Those would be

(10:04):
more like what what what JD. Vance had asked for
suggested was a demilitarized zone, and what Grunel had suggested
was autonomous zones. Now that could that could have if
you have found a way and mechanism to recognize that
in internashi rule, that would be more partition territory. This giving.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Did this proposal, But hang on in this in this proposal,
what's out? It's like what was the Boris Johnson, as
we said in War Room on the evening before the
war started, what's the purpose? It's not just don Basque
and Crimea's gone, which they Zelensky swore up and down.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
They never happened.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
But correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm just reading
it like any other Schmendrick.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
But it's it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Looks like other territories that the historically where the Russian
Army goes, they kind of stay for a while, like
in Eastern Europe. I don't know, for fifty years until
the fall of the Berlin Wall. And I don't care
how many check revolts and how many Hungarian revolts you had.
They were there until the Berlin Wall till Ronald Reagan
took it down. The Russian the Russian Army has been

(11:12):
in this place and looks like according to this that
they may not keep all of it. They're to keep
a lot more than the don Boss and the Crimea.
Do you agree with that, Ben Harnwall, as you read this.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Yeah, Russians would have everything. I repeat the point that,
according to my reading of this, and it's in quotation marks,
that Ukraine would officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian
Federation over those occupied territories, so that that would be
shipping the border effectively eastwards.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
So McConnell and all the I just want to make sure.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I'm gonna rub now, I'm gonna put salt in another
woe for the They sat there and took a quarter
of a trillion dollars of your money, two hundred and
fifty billion dollars that we've had no accounting for. And
trust me, those all our guards and had Crtilians. He
was stealing with both hands. You got a may in
this quarter of Trump. You got a million dead or
wounded Ukrainians. You got seven hundred thousand and fifty thousand

(12:04):
dead or wounded Russians. So at a million, seven dead
or wanted, the place looks like Dresden. And now you're
in a situation that you get a worse deal that
we told you would. You get a worse deal with
the Russians. What was it worth? Do you wonder do
you understand why the parents of the eighteen to twenty
six year olds have said, over my dead body, you've

(12:25):
taken my son to go to that front, because this.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Is where we are.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
This catastrophe is exactly like Mersheimer said it, just like
she's repeated by Racint Raheem Casam and Ben Harnwell and
Stephen K. Bannon on this show and Jack Bosovik for
three years. This an outrage this and by the way,
it's probably the best deal of the thing to get.
As we said, this was all for nothing except for

(12:52):
the arm manufacturers and Victoria nowlan Kegan and to cover
up whatever in the hell's but I said this, and folks,
it's gonna happen when you lance the boil that is Ukraine.
There's gonna be some pus coming out of there. Hey
found you all these all these pardons don't go back
to twenty fourteen. You see a connected dot, it's Rohn

(13:14):
Raheem Casan was over there for bright Bart London for
the Color Revolution. It all goes back to that's a
railhead of a lot of lot of filth and We're.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Gonna get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
The people that are guilty of this crime and their
war criminals are the people in Brussels, in NATO, in
the European Union, in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
In the Atlantic magazine MSNBC. Where's all your cheerleading?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Now?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
How come you're not talking about this article? You people
are revolting. You did exactly what Merscheimer said. You're gonna
lead the Ukrainian people down the primrose panto it gets
too tough for you, and then you're going to abandon
them because you're already fighting. You've already fought until the
last Ukraine is dead. Then I got a bounce. Where

(14:03):
do people go? We'll get you back on.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Not tonight, tomorrow, give me your, give me your We'll
do more work on this. This is revolting.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is a disgrace and anybody associated with it are
to be turfed out.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
What's your what's your social media?

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Ben On gett to Steve simply my surname Hannah. Two
very very essential points also in this In this treaty
will be the consideration of the reconstruction of Ukraine or
we've called on the shed their mother all grits, which
would be largely handed over to the ear. I have
to close with this point. Donald Trump, However, if they
call his bluff, he's on this conveyor belt. Now he's

(14:37):
not going to get off this if he follows this start,
if we're China or even length he called his blood,
he's going all the way in on this.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, now he won't. He's going to stand tall on this.
He has nothing to do with this. His hands are clean,
clean shirt break.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
America.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
If you're host, Stephen k.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Ban okay, momment teraryly, let me have Frank Gaffney, John
Guandola join us. But I want to go first to
the White House and our own Natalie Winners. Natalie's taking
on a new assignment for the War Room. Not simply
going to be co hosting our executive editor and chief researcher.
She's also going to take on the responsibilities of our

(15:22):
White House correspondent.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Natalie.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
The mainstream media, I'm sure is welcoming you with open arms,
so that I know Brian Glenn's over there for real
America's voice. Where are you guys getting nothing but stink
eye today?

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:35):
I don't exactly think all the people that you are
just outlining who need to have what criminal charges and referrals.
The people that I'm about fifty feet away from are
necessarily too happy that the war room now has me
being obviously a voice, not just in terms of asking questions,
but I think sort of observing the mainstream press corp.
And what they're doing here in the room where it's happening.
Of course, with the first press briefing with none other

(15:58):
than Caroline Love It happening today.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
At one pm.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
But until then you can see I think this probably
has to be the most epic background that I've ever had.
And I have to say, Steve, just on a personal
note of reflection, you were just talking about, you know,
Professor Meherscheimer, who is someone that I had while I
was a student at the University of Chicago, and I
look how far you've come. This show has come, but
most importantly, this audience has come. I'm so honored and

(16:22):
privileged to be standing here as Warrem's new White House correspondent.
But this is an ability and privilege that I have
only because of this audience. And I don't just mean
because the President loves them. And obviously the Press office
was instrumental in getting me in here. But they know
that this audience is the audience that moves the needle,
and that's why they want war Room myself here in
the room where it's happening. More importantly, I think to

(16:44):
cover what the mainstream press is doing, the resistance opposition,
however they want to term it. But I think this
is a really, really consequential and important day for Warroom.
When you just look behind me, you can see how
far we've come. So thank you from the bottom of
my heart.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is really cool.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
It's still surreal, and.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm kind of taking it in.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
You.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You started with us, really with National paulse Raheem was
the co Remember we start with Jason Miller and Raheem.
Jason Miller the comm's director and strategist for the camp.
Jason's going to stay on the outside and not go in.
But some of his colleagues, Taylor Bodoch, you got Stephen Chung,
Steven used to be with us for years. And you've got,
of course Caroline Levett, who we broke here in when

(17:23):
she was running in that heated primary and which is
so fantastic up in New Hampshire. But you start with
Raheem when he was co anchor here. I think you
were an weren't you like seventeen years old as an intern?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I think it was. We're still Cougary starting Westlake was
Harvard Westlake?

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Do what I I had just I said, we don't
want to violate any child labor laws.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
So I was definitely over eighteen. But I think.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Just just barely, just an. But you know what, it's
it's quite moving. I know, rarely in my at all
loss for words, but to be standing here, I mean, Steve,
think about it.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
What was it?

Speaker 7 (18:04):
I mean two years ago, three years ago, we were
being smeared as the number one spreaders of misinformation.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You were in prison.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Not too long ago, our entire audience was censored and deplatformed.
And look how far we've come. It's a testament to
this audience. But also Steve, more importantly, I think so
much of what we've been focusing on lately, the resistance,
the concept of civil society, how they're going to push
back because they do have no levers of power, and
the media is going to be the hotbed of resistance.

(18:31):
So I pledged to this audience. Of course, I'll be
covering what President Trump is doing, but more importantly what
the mainstream media is doing in terms of lying and
deceit and the narratives that they're going to be crafting
to try to neuter and nullify President Trump's America First agenda.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You know, this goes back as a hat tip to
Susie Wilds and Las Avena, who on the campaign with
Jason understood that power had shifted from mainstream media to
now the podcast, the streaming services, and they made a
big effort to make sure everybody was involved that was
in the campaign, and it paid off in space then
thinking through how you actually cover this White House with

(19:07):
the flood, the zone.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
There's so much going.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
We started the show with a seven minute cold open
on just just all these amazing things President Trump's are doing.
And you can tell right now, Natalie, they're half a
dozen to ten things every day they've almost getting no coverage.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's what we're here to do is to make.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Sure with real America's voice, you're going to understand it
all and get it all. But I think what Taylor
and Stephen Chung and Carolyn Levett had done is brilliant
because they've really allowed the podcast and the streaming services
that really will put the resources like we did on Friday,
and I had even you know, Brian Glenn did such
a magnificent job. Real America's Voice, Amanda Head on the

(19:45):
West Coast, but like even MTG came to me, she says, Hey,
I was riveted to the coverage, and I know the
folks in the White House, that's the you know, Rob
sig and Parker, Brian Glenn, Amanda Head, John Solomon, war Room, Pasobic,
Charlie Kirk. We're going to put immense amount of effort
to make sure the full story is told because it's
such a major, major inflection in American history, and we're

(20:08):
putting our best talent there. Amanda Head, Natalie Winners, Brian Glenn,
We're going to be announcing other.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
People up on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
We're putting full resources because the story's kind of shifted, right.
We were in the outs for years and years and
years and fought back and we put you whether it's
in the border, etc. We're still going to be those places,
but the center of gravity of the story has shifted
to Washington, DC, and Natalie's been such a superstar is
going to be there telling the story and getting to
the facts as only as you can tell them. One thing,

(20:39):
just about the action. You know, last night he froze
the three tree and dollars. He's doing all the stuff
with the military, the Marines go to the border.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Even Abbott sends four hundred.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
He's got Christy Nome today is kicking down doors in
New York City and arresting people. Just the level of
activity come emanating from the White House must make it
a place that you can just feel the energy when
you're there. I know, you get dark energy, negative energy
by the media who are being crushed. And a Costa
just left CNN got fired. Essentially, he just had some

(21:10):
nasty stuff say by prosident Trump, as you can imagine.
But the energy coming out of there, Natalie give us
put us in the room or in this case, the lawn.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Well, as I was walking in, there's massive protests going
on outside. I'm not exactly sure what they're over. I
think it has something to do with either of the
Palestine stuff or the mass deportations. But I mean, I
think Steve to the point that you were making, you know,
there is definitely an undertone and undercurrent.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
I feel it.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
Brian Glunn feels that of the sort of legacy media,
the mainstream press not wanting us here is sort of
scoffing at us, which I'll take it.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
I don't really care.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
I've never cared what they've thought. But to that point,
right when you see MSNBC melting down about the inspector
generals being fired or certain DOJ apparatics being removed, I
would argue, every person who's smiling in that video of
Merrit Garland leaving should have grounds for termination.

Speaker 8 (22:01):
But these people have failed.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
I'm not just talking for decades, but certainly for the
last four years. So if anyone from the mainstream press
has an issue with me being here or with Warmom
being here, I would simply say, you guys covered up
for four years a president who literally was so out
to lunch, he wasn't making any decisions, and he wasn't
reachable even by his own damn vice president. So if
you really want to make the case that what you
guys are doing was such a wonderful job, I just

(22:24):
point you to that Wall Street Journal report and I'd
say I think that is all the evidence you need
as to why we need a new era, a new
Shall we say, golden age of media and reporting here
coming from the White House. But to your point about
flooding the zone, Jensaki literally played the clip of you
from that PVS Frontline interview in twenty twenty last night,
saying that that's still their tactic, that's still exactly what
they're doing. But make no mistake, I think the counterpoint

(22:46):
to flooding the zone, you see that, you see that
reciprocity in terms of what the resistance is trying to do.
I know that story you love to talk about in
the Wall Street Journal, how they prematurely leaked about those
mass deportations and the raids. I would wager an I'd
be very curious if I were wrong on this, but
I'm very confident that the intel from that story came
from the ACLU. They've been really, really heavily handed in

(23:09):
their foyer requests and trying to get to the bottom
of detention centers and the sort of logistics of these
raids and mass deportations. They've been bragging about it. They've
launched a bunch of new programs. They've of course been
suing everyone and their mother, whether it's the birthright citizenship,
the mass deportation stuff. Even right now as we're speaking,
actively lobbying governors and state and local level officials to

(23:30):
give state level pardons for criminal illegal aliens that has
convicted criminal illegal aliens so they won't be subject to
what is the current purview of a lot of these
mass deportation raids. So I think that while it's great
to focus on what they're not covering from the Trump administration,
make no mistake that the sort of resistance wing of
the Democrat Party is an overdrive. And to that point,

(23:51):
even Norm Eyesen, the State United Democracy Defenders. I believe
it was just in the first few minutes of President
Trump's term that three lawsuits were already filed against the
constitutionality of DOGE. Norm eyes And actually applied to be
a member of DOGE, I'm not kidding seriously, And under
those grounds they're saying that that was discrimination, that they

(24:11):
did not accept Norm Eysen's application to be involved with DOGE.
So they're trying to now sort of come and nuke
and neuter DOGE through that angle. So they are firing
on all cylinders when it comes to law fair, it
didn't go anywhere. They're just rebranding But like I said,
I'm so honored and privileged despite all the nasty stares
that I'm getting as I'm calling out my new Evil

(24:32):
America last America hating colleagues. I guess though I don't
want it to mean myself by calling them my colleagues,
how they're going to cover it up and run cover
for people who are trying to sabotage President Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Remember, ma'am, none of that crowd got through the University
of Chicago with the grades you got in three years.
Why you hailed down a full time job here?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Just remember that. Just be like Scott Bessen with those Democrats.
Soon as they it's just veter information, so he misinformation.
Natalie great job.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Was in prison, so I'll take that, Natalie g Winters
on all social media platforms, And thank you so much
for the audience. I know I wouldn't be standing here
if it weren't for you guys and the power of
the war imposse. So I'm deeply humpful and grateful, and
I wish all of you could be here with me.
But maybe that's too cruel punishment, But thank you, Steve.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'll talk to you soon, okay, Man Brian Glenn's there,
a real America's voice. Amanda Head is going to be
there for John Salmer. We're going to cover this so
much to cover, plus we're going to people on Capitol Hills,
so kind of the shifting the center of gravity. And
a hat tip to the communications staff, where I think
realizes the power of the streaming services and the power
of the podcast to really get the word out and

(25:47):
to do the types of hard work is necessary to
get things done and to make sure that people understand
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
We're going to take a short break.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Frank Gaffney, two of my favorite peas well, Frank Gaffney
and John Gwendola. I think there's been something lost, seriously lost,
because you know, Raheem and Frank and I and John
have been at this. I've been at it, I don't
know for almost twenty years. I guess it made my
first film about this on Reagan in This back in
two thousand and four, so about twenty years, twenty years.

(26:22):
Something's gonna lost in this conversation about the Middle East.
And I think we've got to do a little bit,
not a reset, but just kind of make sure everything's
on the table when we talk about it because there's
a lot of vitrio and people are, you know, having
hard feelings.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Don't need to have hard feelings.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
But I think we've got to put the context of
what's going on over there.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
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Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, to get going.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I want people to understand two people are gonna be
up Thursday, and so I'm gonna hold this for five o'clock.
But I'm now aware that I think it was NBC
News or someone broke the story this morning about Cash
betel On, some whistleblower from the FBI about some incident,
complete nonsense, the Warren Posse and Grace. We're gonna have

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to bill blaster. We'll getting Mike Davis with article three.
We got work to do on going to the ramparts
for cash. I'm just informed now The New York Times
is getting ready to publish. To say, after a major
hit piece on our own Taulca Gabbard, uh and it's
also filled with false information. But we will be manning
so that five to seven tonight will tee off, just

(27:51):
like we did for Pete Hexath, just like we did
for Gates. So the Gates pulled out, just like we've
done for everybody from Pam Bondi the whole crew. We're
gonna we're gonna have work to do. To say afternoon,
Grace will be on watch. I'll get Mike Davis over here.
But we're going to have to let Capitol Hill know
what we think about this as one of our great
function centered the war room. So five to seven, both

(28:12):
Tulci Gabbert and Cash Mattel, they're coming in on Thursday
for their hearings, and they intend to chop both of
those great patriots up, and we will not tolerated here
in the war Room. Frank Gaffney, Frank, you and I
have worked on this project for twenty years. John Guandola
also in a professional capacity over the FBI as a trainer.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Raheem Cassam and the No Go Zones.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
You were banded Fox for a band for Seapac first
and then banded Fox for talking about what Elon Musk
has just.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Gotten famous for.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Over the last couple of weeks, they took Gaffney off
the TV I think still now of over ten years.
But Frank some's getting lost and people I really expect,
Tucker Carlson, Kurt Mills, other people A considered close colleagues
and smart guys and others. There's kind of this range
work going on about Israel and about the Middle East everything.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I just want to make sure and to reset.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, you and I have kind of dedicated a big
You've dedicated I've dedicated a big part of my life
not just being anti CCP, but being anti Sharia supremacy
and particularly in the Middle East. Now with the geopolitics,
the great power of politics, and you have the rise
of the rise of really the Turkish, the Ottoman Empire,
you have the you have the Persian still in play,

(29:28):
the Egyptians, and you got cutter and you and I
have worked on this forever. And this was President Trump.
We went to Riodd for a reason. On the first trip.
President Trump took Riod, Jerusalem in Rome in that order.
And I was one of the architects of that and
recommended we go in that order and President Trump address
the MUSSLM nations and we have a memory of an

(29:48):
understanding of terrorism finance, and Cutter refused to sign it
and came up with all kinds of excuses.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's a nest of vipers over there.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I just think we're missing the context that you can't
talk about Israel and the other nations. You can't talk
about think and we're not I'm not saying I'm not
a land I served over there in the North Arabian
Sea and the Persian Golf during the hostage crisis and
the work up for the raid, so I've got some
skin in the game. But I'm not a let's go
to land war with Persia, Let's go bomb them.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm saying you have to contextualize this.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
This has to be in this construct of a not Islam,
but a radical form of Islam that is supremacist. And
Cutter sees a play here with Turkey in Persia to
take over essentially the Golf Emirates and to take over
the two Holy sites and have Turkey run it under
their auspices, and Israel is going to get caught in

(30:45):
a pincer move here. It's obvious to me what's going on,
and that's why I think we have to start having
a conversation that puts the strategic context and what's happening
in Europe and what's happened in Rotherham all in context.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Frank Gaffney, Well.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
Let me just start by saying thank you for your
lifetime of service on this cause you're right, there's been
an enormous amount of efforts and John Gwendola is the
scars to show it, as do I to suppress the
kind of information that we're going to share here. And
I couldn't be more grateful, not only that Natalie's got
her gig, but your show is, as she said, this
incredible opportunity for people to learn the truth. And let

(31:24):
me just acknowledge one other piece of your service, sir.
I believe it was the day after you took over
as the campaign chairman of the presidency presidential campaign if
Donald Trump in twenty sixteen August fifteenth, twenty sixteen, to
be precise, that he went to Youngstown, Ohio, and he
laid out, in what I considered to be one of

(31:46):
his finest speeches ever, essentially an agenda for both understanding
the nature. He didn't call it Sharia supremacism. I think
that's what it is, but he called it radical Islamic terrorism.
Sugested the specific things we have to do, including stopping
importing more of those who are practitioners of it. What

(32:08):
a concept, as well as rooting out stripping the support
networks that these guys use in our country. And John Gundolo,
my dear friend and a great freedom fighter, has learned
and understood and taught more about all of this than anybody.

(32:30):
So I'll leave it to him to talk a little
bit more about how the Muslim Brotherhood features into this,
but suffice it to say, our Victory Coalition, which you've
encouraged us to establish, victoryco dot org, is where you
can find more about it is meant to be a
vehicle for doing precisely this kind of public education. And
whether it's guys who are professing that they want to

(32:52):
have restraint and that that's really what Donald Trump is
all about, when in fact it's about retreat. You talked
about the eighties, Ronald Reagan was responding to what the
Henry Kissingers and the Graham Allisons and the like you
thought we ought to do to retreat from inevitable defeat

(33:13):
at the hands of the Soviet Union. Reagan wanted no
part of it. I don't believe Donald Trump has been
elected to sound retreat. And I have a piece up
at Gatestone and hopefully shortly at the Warham Platform on
this subject. He was elected by the American people to
once again practice peace through strength. I personally think that

(33:35):
the guys who have been able to get inside the
wire from the Koch Empire at the Defense Department don't
get this.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
But you do.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
I think Donald Trump does, and I think he's not
going to want him in anywhere near his policymaking app
bratus when he finds out you.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And this is what you have to have a balance
we talk about. You have to have a balance. Remember Trump.
I fought in the National Security Council adamly fought that
the cruise missile attack on Syria because I thought, I said, hey,
we haven't proved the case that he actually used chemical
weapons Number one, number two. This is just like the
Clinton Still a couple of crui missiles in there, they'll

(34:10):
be flying combat stories the next day. It just looks weak.
And they all cheered him on morning. Joe David Ignatius.
They all want to get trump endo up doing the
standard thing. President Trump eventually, as he got wiser in this,
got rid of the John Boltons and the guys that
wanted to light things up.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
And I do agree with restraint.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You have to be very, very careful when you think
about this region, and we spent too much blood. I'm
a big pivot to Asia guy. However, it can't be
lost in you. The Turkey's on the move right now.
I mean Erdawan is the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.
It should be designated it just like the Mexican cartel's
and I think far worse than the Mexican contest.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
They're a terrorist organization.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And I tell people if all the work I got
done in the White House, and I got a lot
done in those nine months, the one I couldn't get
any traction on it all is the Muslim Brothers terrorists areanization.
The apparatus shut it down in Gundola. You know this
Guandola that because you've been at the f in an
instructor of how it's it's it's it's. You know, we've

(35:10):
got a problem with Muslim Brotherhood and we got a
problem with radical jihad.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
You just saw on New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
They took a guide, drove a car down, a former
army guide drove a car down and butchered what ten people.
This is a problem and it's not really getting better.
You can put your head in the sand and think
it's getting better, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
John Gundola, your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Versus twelve Steve, Thanks again for having me. I would
say this. I think that not only is the American
public lacking serious understanding of the threats, but understanding how
well coordinated these threats are, and the command and control
from the international level down to the local mosque level

(35:55):
in the United States is astounding from a war fighting
perspective and understanding that the global Islamic movement, and that's
how they describe themselves, is at war with the West
and with the United States. So a few points. Number one,
the largest terrorism financing trial in American history, the United

(36:17):
States versus the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development,
which was adjudicated in Dallas, Texas in two thousand and eight,
revealed that the most prominent Islamic organizations in the United
States are, as a matter of fact and evidence, a
part of an identifiable movement that seeks to overthrow on

(36:37):
Islamic governments and impose Sharia Islamic law.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
On all people.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And we can look at let's just look at one
ruling from three organizations that tried to have their names
removed from the unindicted co conspirator list is NATE and CARE,
the Islamic Sciity of North America, which until the US
CMO was the large just Muslim Brotherhood umbrella group in
the country, NATE, North American Islamic Trust, the Bank for

(37:06):
the Brotherhood in North America, and the last remaining of
the original four Hamas organizations. Now there are a number
of others, the Council of American Islamic Relations that was
formed by the Muslim Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee CARE, which
was HAMAS in the United States. That's a matter of

(37:29):
legal fact is the Islamic Sidey of North America has
been their former vice president and president up until he
may still be sitting on it, but was one of
the nine commissioners on the US Commission for International Religious
Freedom under mister Biden. He had received an award, the

(37:52):
FBI Director's Award from James Comy. They participated in outreach
with the the FBI and the State Department. He was
publicly thanked by Dick Durbin when he held his hearings
on the quote civil rights of Muslims in America. So
the very organizations are leaders at the national security staffs

(38:15):
down to state level and local level officials, including quote
unquote interfaith outreach is all controlled by these guys. The
Islamic sciting North America CARE and the International Institute of
Islamic Thought, as well as to some extent, the Islamic
circle in North America control that the interfaith outreach of

(38:36):
the United States where Muslims are involved. You know, So
when we look at this and you look at the
fact that you have, these are not these groups we're
talking about. These are not homegrown, regular old Islamic groups.
These are organizations that were created and are being controlled

(38:56):
by hostile foreign powers like Cutter, like Iran, like Saudi Arabia,
like Pakistan and the intelligence services.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Hang on, hang on, hang on, you just said hostile.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hang on, you just said hostile powers, and you said Cutter,
which we have a massive base in right and you
know there in back of you know, wit coughing, These
guys cutting this deal on Jimas And you just said
the Saudis and last time, I look, we're trying to
get a deal with that in Israel and we're we've
got troops all over the place, We're the defense of

(39:29):
the House of saw It.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
So you just called them hostile powers.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
There must be a disconnect because the US government, even
in another president Trump, is not treating these people like
hostile powers. Well, how do you you got a minute,
I'm going to take you to break. How do you
back that up?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Well, first of all, if you look at who's funding
and there's plenty of evidence and testimony of the funding
from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Cutter two, al Qaida, Isis,
and the Muslim Brotherhood. To be sure, I mean who
aid for most of the infrastructure here in the United
States to be built of Saudi Arabia's.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Hang, John, Hang, We're gonna go to break.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
But there's a big there's a big differentiation between Persia
and we gotta start calling it Persia. Young people today
have seen three hundred They understand the West, the Athens
in Rome had an enemy. It was Persia. Calling it Iran,
I think it confuses people. I really do, and I'm
served over there.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Number one.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Number two Persia and hang on, Persia and Pakistan are
different breed at cat than Saudi Arabian cutter.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
It is totally different. You can't you can't bunch them
together anyway.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Short commercial break, John Guandola, Frank Gaffney, the contextualization of
what in.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
The hell were you even doing in the Middle East?
Short break back in a moment for the word of
the Hong Kong We will buying God We originally.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Hughes who Stephen kb.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
We got a lot of work to do. Tulsi Gabbert,
big hit piece coming in the New York Times, the
Cash Bettel. That hit piece was where it was an exclusive.
CBS News took a hit on cash with this whistleblower.
It's all nonsense. We're going to get to that this afternoon.
We're going to get to Tulsi Gabbart's that's coming out.
I think in a while. I don't think the New
York Times is published it yet. Uh, Gaffney and Guandola,

(41:30):
this is too serious. I can't jam this in. I
don't want to jam it in. We're going to have
you back at six to go through this. Frank Gatestone
is going to publish it this afternoon. So is war Room?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
What time?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Approximately? Where do they go to get the piece? Your
social media first and they'll.

Speaker 9 (41:44):
Do John's Gaystone Institute has it up on their site
right now. I think the war rooms now got it.
It's Gatestone Institute dot org. I want to thank Nina
Rosenwald for helping get it up quickly. That is a
prime piece of reporting on the problem that we started
with Steve at the Restraint Versus Retreat. I'm also at

(42:06):
Victory Coo dot org and Institute for American the American
Future that's Usfuture dot org and Securing America.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Of course, I'll see you back here at six.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Remember I'm a restraint guy that doesn't want retreat, but
we got to. I want to contextualize this to make
sure people know the players, Persia, Turkey Cutter and others. John,
Where do people go to catch up with everything you've
been up to?

Speaker 3 (42:34):
So John Guandola dot com is the website and Jay
Guandola fifty four two seven one on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
John Gundola is one of the greatest patriots we have
in this country, a man they have tried to screw
his life up in a big time for being a
hero and a patriot and fighting the good fight now
for a couple of decades. Guys, I'll see you back
here at six. Thank you, Thanks, thank you, Sir John Guandola.
If you knew, if you knew the behind the scenes
of what happened to guys like this, the heroes that
stepped up when it was not popular. This thing's a problem.

(43:05):
You have to put in contacts. And Muslim Brotherhood's a problem.
They're they're worse than them. As bad as the cartels are,
they're kind of limited. They're getting bigger because of fentanyl
and making money and of course it's chemical warfare from
the Chinese companies party. Muslim Brotherhood is a major terrorist.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Organization, full stop.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I don't want to hear how many church, how many schools,
and how many hospitals are running. That's all cover. We'll
get to that at six. But you can't, you can't.
You must. You always must put this thing in context, contextualize,
and I'm a pivot to try and remember I'm just
take down the CpG. President Trump, I want to get
out of the Middle East as quickly as you can
get out of there, but you gotta face realities about

(43:45):
leaving or what you're what you're defending in Europe and
the United States, Natalie Domingus, What are we defending here, ma'am?
Because we need people at the ramparts. A perfect example today,
we're gonna need a big showing of the war and
posse starting this afternoon. We get back here at five o'clock,
we tell you what's going on, break it all down
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Speaker 8 (45:25):
Why you ask, I will tell you.

Speaker 10 (45:27):
Because the family didn't find out about it on time,
and there's a statute of limitations for contesting the fraud.
And I don't think I've talked about this before. Did
you know that, Steve, that there's a statute of limitations
for even just being able to contest fraud in the
United States.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
For a lot of these things. Did not know that.

Speaker 10 (45:44):
Every county, every state, it's different, it's different everywhere, so
it's not even really consistent across the board. So for
this family, the actual fraud took place years prior to
them finding out about it, and then all of a
sudden they're getting a viction notices on their doorstep, and
then they had to take act. And so today, I
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Speaker 1 (47:28):
Worry about Natalie.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
You're fantastic. So glad they brought you on board to
be head of Education. You've made a huge difference. The
audience loves you. Thank you so much, ma'am. Look forward
to having you back on.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Thanks Steve, we need you at the ramparts. Today's going
to be a workday. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
They're coming after cash and they're coming after Tulsi hard.
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