January 30, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JANUARY 30TH, 2025
Mary holland
Nicole Shanahan
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ussian tanks were rolling across the peaceful border of Ukraine
for the first time, you tweeted at eleven thirty pm
your time.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This war and suffering.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Could have easily been avoided if Biden administration slash NATO
had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate, legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine's
becoming a member of NATO.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Did you say that.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I believe you're reading my tweet, Senator, Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Is the answer.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
A few months later, you said on your podcast and
I quoted it quote, but this regime changed war against
Russia that the US and NATO are waging via their
proxy in Ukraine didn't begin when Pudin invaded Ukraine. They
had their eyes set on this objective long before that.
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Did you say that, yes or no?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I believe you're reading my tweet?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
There is a lot of answer yes, you're quoting upon
that provided much.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
To have a conversation with the chairman about whether I'm
taking anything out of context. I don't think I am,
and your answer is yes.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
The findings of the Government Oversight Investigation Committee AN investigated
CDC's vaccine program in two thousand and three. Senator Burton
was chairman of that committee, and he said that's certain
individuals in that program had written off at generation of
kids because of quote misplaced institutional loyalty to the CDC
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and because entanglements with the drug company. But I am
pro vaccine. I am going to support the vaccine program.
I want kids to be healthy, and I'm coming in
here to get rid of the conflicts of interest within
the agency. Make sure that we have gold standard evidence
based science. And if you show me where I'm wrong,
and they'll show me a single statement I've made about
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science that is erroneous.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Which is interesting because here's what you told Ce Bannon
on his podcast. So what we thought would be cool
is if we captured that audio and then of course
had the greatest President, President Donald J. Trump, recite the
pledge of allegiance. Then we went to a studio and
recorded it, mastered it, digitized it, and put it out
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as a song now releasing exclusively on the worm We
we we if you had nothing to do with it,
mister Patel, why did you tell Steve Bannon all his
listeners that you did?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
That's why it says we as you highlighted.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, and you're part of the we.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Right when you say we, that includes you, doesn't, mister Ptel,
not in every instance. Well that's new.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So when you said we, you didn't really mean you.
Is that your testimony?
Speaker 8 (02:47):
Not unless you have a new definition for the word we.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
Oh okay, I always thought we.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Included the person who pronounced the word.
Speaker 10 (02:54):
There's multiple studies establishing the safety of measles and hepatitis
B vaccine and specifically that they are not a cause
of autism in this position, and you have previously said yes,
But if you are approved to this decision to disposition,
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will you say unequivocally?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Will you will you reassure.
Speaker 10 (03:18):
Mothers, unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis
B vaccines do not cause autism.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Senator, I am not going into the agency with any.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Well, that's kind of a yes or no question because
so if you're because the data is there, and that's
kind of a yes or no. And I don't mean
to cut you off, but that really is a yes.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Or no if the data is there, I will absolutely
do that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now there is the data.
Speaker 10 (03:46):
Just because I used to I used to do hepatitis BEE.
As I've said, I know the data is there.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, then then I will be the first person if
you show me data, I will be the first person
to assure the American people to take you that they
need to take those vaccines.
Speaker 10 (04:04):
Now, what concerns me is that you've cast out on
some of these vaccines recently, I mean like the last
few years. But the data, and I can quote some
of it, the data has been there for a long time.
I've been out of the game. I've been in Congress
for sixteen years, and this data was in large measure
generated before I came to Congress. So my concern is
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that if you were making those claims and being so influential, I.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mean, your bullypoop is incredible with that.
Speaker 10 (04:33):
Responsibility, that you never acquainted yourself with anything that might
contradict that what you were previously saying.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So let me ask once more, if the.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
Data is brought to you and these studies that have
been out there for quite some time and have been
peer reviewed, and it shows that these two vaccines are
not associated with autism, will you ask no, I need
even more or will you say no, I see this.
It's the test of time, and I unequivocally and without qualification,
say that this does not cause autism.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Not only will I do that, but I will apologize
for any statements that misled people otherwise.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Next, I just want to pledge you and I will
never stick on a point if somebody shows me that
it says I'm wrong. I know that that's an interpretation
people have, but it's absolutely wrong.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
This is the crimal screen of a dying regime.
Speaker 11 (05:35):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
I know you've tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
It's going to happen. And where do people like that
go to share the big line?
Speaker 9 (05:55):
Mega media?
Speaker 11 (05:56):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved war.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bath.
Speaker 11 (06:20):
It's Thursday, thirty January, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.
What a day Wow, where to start? Where we're going
to start? As Mary Holland is back. We asked her
yesterday and she came back. She was good for her word.
Mary Holland, Children Health's Defense you were would you enthusiastic yesterday?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Are you just patting us on the head and making
us feel better?
Speaker 12 (06:43):
That?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Did Bobby Kennedy get chopped up today? Or he hold
his own?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Listen?
Speaker 13 (06:48):
The intent was to chop him up both days pretty intense,
very intense. Both the questions were brutal and tough. They
were tough, but I think he held his own. I
don't think we expected it to be pretty. It's a confirmation,
no confirmation. That's the whole issue.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
You're saying the game is, the game.
Speaker 13 (07:04):
Is up or down, and I think it's going to
be up now. You mentioned to me Cassidy, the chairman,
and that he was negative.
Speaker 11 (07:11):
I'm standing on a hangar before you get there. It's
not just up or down and supper down where you
get through. But when I hear Bobby Kennedy sitting there
and going, I'm pro vaccine, and they're also what they're
trying to do if they can't remove them, they want
to narrow their options. Look, Bobby Kennedy. We're a right
wing audience, and our audience buying large loves Bobby Kennedy
because he's a fighter, right, He's a fighter. This whole
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a Make America Healthy Again has hit a chord at
deep courting people.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
What we saw today is that they're trying to box
him in.
Speaker 11 (07:40):
Even if he gets through, they're trying to box him
in on those one or two huge things he has
to do.
Speaker 13 (07:45):
Correct I agree with that they're going to try to
box him in. I think he didn't take the bait
on a lot of those yes no questions that take
a lot of nuance in long conversations, and I think
he has to come in saying I'm going to accept
the way HH is today, HHS is today, but I'm
going to bring radical transparency and gold standard science. Once
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he does that, Steve, he brings transparency in science, he's
going to make changes based on that. But he has
to say and he has to actually take actions to
accept what he's walking into.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So I don't know that he's going to He's not
going to be static to change things.
Speaker 13 (08:21):
He's going to make people healthy again, He's going to
have to make major changes. But he has to say
walking in the door, he respects what his predecessors have
done for many years.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
For our audience is that.
Speaker 11 (08:35):
It's so obvious to me that big Pharma owns this
city and you just see it come through. And what's interesting,
they have a raw hatred for Bobby Kennedy like they
have for Trump on different issues. But they don't hate TULCA.
They don't hate cash, they don't. They dislike them. They
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want to stop them, and something wants there's a visceral.
They are incensed by Bobby Kennedy. Am I wrong in that?
Speaker 9 (09:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think you're right about that.
Speaker 13 (09:04):
And as we said yesterday, you know seven pharma lobbyists
for one member of Congress. So yeah, they're out for
him because he does threaten the pharmaceutical medical complex, no
question about that. He's going to open the books. The
books have been closed. Pharma gives the documents that they
want to the FDA and the CDC. FDA CDC don't
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do their own original science, and i AGE gets royalties
when they work with pharma. They get a lot of
their budget from pharma directly. So yeah, Bobby is very
threatening to the pharmaceutical complex.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
They don't like him.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Let's talk about the process today.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
We have to have committee votes at a finance and
Health and Human services today? Where do we stand on those?
So only you're the whip here for Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Right, Well, no, I'm at an independent organization, but he
founded us, so I'm.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
The only untas.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, I'm company packed.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
You guys packed this.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
The movement had thousands of people, and you have these mothers.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
The article today, I think in the Federalists if I'm correct,
of the Free Press, one of them that says the
most powerful new force in American politics is these moms
of the make America Healthy again.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
That you've probably changed the DUNIAMA.
Speaker 13 (10:17):
That's as it should be, Steve and in fact Cassidy said,
and Bobby said, this is a transcendent, powerful movement and
it crosses party lines. It is a movement across all
kinds of demographics, and it's exciting because it really is
about positive change. Who can be against people being healthy?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
O tell you who?
Speaker 11 (10:35):
Well, yes, I got a couple of them today. They
were coming at this guy like they were trying to
you know, killing.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
Sick people are very profitable. Healthy people are not profitable.
Farma knows that very well. Bobby Kennedy knows that very well. So, yeah,
they don't like him. And it was as nasty as
I fully expected as being.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
It wasn't so you met it was nasty.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Oh absolutely, it was nasty.
Speaker 13 (10:56):
But one of the important things on this pharma issue
is Bobby did push back against Bernie Sanders and say, Bernie,
you're taking money from pharma and maybe from individuals, but
you're taking a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
He didn't like that one bid.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Let's do the head count on finance and Cassidy is
a swing guy here Inny.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, Cassidy's very powerful right now because Cassidy the only
vote that counts as the Finance Committee, and on the
Finance Committee, Cassidy's vote is critical.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
To send it to the four Finance Committee.
Speaker 13 (11:25):
The Help Committee was a courtesy hearing. It was not
a voting committee. So today was a courtesy and a
lot more senators got direct exposure. They went on the record,
but the only vote accounts is yesterday. Cassidy's on that
committee and.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
He hasn't vot You've lost the committee.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
It'd be very if they need Cassidy's vote on the
Finance Committee. I do believe that he's a traditional physician
who left private practice sixteen years ago. It makes perfect
sense to me that he has absorbed the narrative of
mainstream medicine. Vaccines are safe and effective, vaccines, safe lives.
He needs to talk more with Bobby to get comfort
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with Bobby that Bobby is not going to take people's
vaccines away.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
He comes.
Speaker 13 (12:07):
He gave a speech today about the about hepatitis b.
He was a liver specialist. He is following the narrative
of mainstream medicine. But I think he is movable. I
think he wanted to put those reservations on the record.
But I hope and I do believe that he will
support President Trump's nominee for his cabinet.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Numbers two zero two two two four three one two one.
We have work to do today, all three nominees. But
make sure you call, and you should direct your call
to Cassidy, Senator Cassidy's office and let him know that you.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Support Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
And get into Tulsi and Cash a little later in
the show.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
But we need all these hanging in the balance.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
They can all get across, and we have a big
massive grassroots uprising say President Trump deserves his his candidates.
When you just said, there, Bobby, you sound like the
old Bobby Kennedy that when the Bobby candidate we saw
up there, you would think the guy ever questioned a
vaccine in his life by the answers.
Speaker 13 (13:04):
Steve, if you've read the four books that he wrote
while he was in children's health defense, you know this
guy questions vaccines, and you know that he's talking about
radical transparency, gold standard science, and.
Speaker 11 (13:14):
He's saying here he's pro vaccine today, Steve, he would,
you know, just asking a simple question.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
Yes, he said that, Steve, and I and I think
he has always said I'm not anti vaccine, and if
it really makes me healthy, I'm the first one who's
going to take it if the benefits overwhelmingly outweigh the
risk on the first one in line, He's never not
he's never abandoned that statement. Once people know the real
science and there's real transparency, I assure you a lot
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of people are going to change.
Speaker 11 (13:42):
The MAHA moment. Can you stay through the break? Nicole
Shan has not that we're kind of jammed for. Is
MAHA make America healthy again? Is it a modern grassroots
uprising of particularly mothers.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
That's or is it a cult?
Speaker 13 (13:57):
No, this is this is decades in the May Steve.
I've been a part of this movement for twenty years.
This is a long term grassroots movement that is finally
getting a moment in the sun. This is not going away,
and this is a powerful movement.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
And this is why this is a transcendent moment. This
is a moment that has to be seized. And you
believe that Cassidy. President Trump understands that he does, which
is pretty powerful.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
It is that he would kind of get this. He
got it a long time ago, but he got this.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
You know, I think Cassidy gets it too. He doesn't
want to go against this movement. He made it really clear,
I'm going to have moms on my case. So many
of the senators said that it's really true. They know
that there's going to be a political price to pay
if they don't support this nominee.
Speaker 11 (14:39):
Can you hang them for a second, Sir Mary Holland
from a children's health offense, By the way, fantastic job.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
The MAHA movement turned out the last two days in
the cold, pretty impressive.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
Short commercial break Johnny contakes us out with American Heart
Willn't be back in a moment.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
Also, Nicole Shanahan, let me join us.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
Your host Stephen gave back.
Speaker 11 (15:05):
An historic day in the Imperial Capital. Today we had
Robert F. Kennedy Junior being grilled on being the Secretary
of Health and Human Service as a transcendent moment, in
a historic moment for this country. We had Cash Betel
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three friends of the show, and I know the audience
is all in. We kind of had NFL red zone
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in the first hour. Then President Trump stepped up and
gave just a how can I say it, a pretty
impressive press conference that heads are still blowing up. So
Natalie Winners is going to be We're going to get
Natalie up at six and we're going to go through
all that.
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we start getting into the muck of headcount and how
we're going to get this passed? Why is this a
transcendent moment today, a historic moment to day and you
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can kind of feel it, and you could particularly feel
it in the forces that are receding. Why is this
a transcendent and historic moment?
Speaker 13 (16:39):
Well, even regardless of the confirmation, thousands of people showed up.
This is a movement that has been growing from the
grassroots for decades and it is now the sun. So
the New York Times is coming to talk to me.
LA Times just ran a favorable piece about Bobby Kennedy.
Politico did a halfway favorable piece about children's health defense.
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This movement is no longer wacko, anti vacked, fringe, marginal.
This movement is now mainstream and people realize that over
half of this country adults and kids are sick. We've
got to do something. As Bobby says, it's existential amazing.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
Let's talk about the practicality of the steps we have
to do.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
The numbers two zero two two two four three one
two one.
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Speaker 11 (17:36):
But make sure today and we're going to take them
Bobby Kennedy first, and we're going to talk about Tulsa
and Cash litle later. We've got work to do overnight
and tomorrow. These are hanging in the balance. I would
say we should take.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Nothing for granted, Take nothing for granted.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
At the Finance Committee.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
Senator Cassidy, who's a was a physician up until ten
years ago.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
He's the central person.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yes, yes, he's the central person.
Speaker 13 (17:57):
He expressed his reservations today, but I do think he
said he might want to be in touch with Bobby
over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I do believe he's going to come around.
Speaker 13 (18:06):
He said that he wants to support President trump slate,
he wants to support the vision. I do believe that
he wanted to put those on the record, but that
he is will. I think he'll come around.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Where do we stand then with the floor vote?
Speaker 11 (18:21):
You know Murkowski Collins, So McConnell, I mean take down three.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Right, So McConnell, you know, as a polio survivor, he
is anti. You know he's not going to vote for
Bobby Kennedy. Murkowski and Collins were both at the Help
Committee today. Both of them asked detailed questions about Maine
and Alaska. They both had concerns, but my impression was
that they were comfortable voting in favor of Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 11 (18:47):
And so you think that those have been against some
of President Trump's earlier picks. They were key for Gates
leaving the yard. They were some of the toughest on
Pete and eventually didn't vote for him. You think that
Murkowski and Colin from the way you saw the question
of the body.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Language, That's what I saw today.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Are you guys whipping votes? Are you are you there
to tay?
Speaker 11 (19:05):
Are you getting information and giving back to Bobby about
where we stand.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
No, I mean, you know, he's got his own team.
I'm outside of that, but I think that's what it
looked like today.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
What is it? Do you have any idea on the
timing of this?
Speaker 13 (19:19):
People don't think that it's going to be tomorrow. Bobby
had to answer questions.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
He gets more information about so they.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Have to write. So they had questions. There's a record.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
He's submitting those answers tomorrow today from the questions yesterday.
But they expect to vote next week.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
Yeah, Prisident Trump's very adamant now about Thune's got to
pick up the.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Pace series once. It's guys, and you saw this AA situation.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Where do people go to get you? Because now more
than ever and we really want you to start. Our
next guest, Nicole Shanahan brought it up the first time
about agriculture and make America healthy again. We clearly want
to get more people on here. We broke new ground
on the pandemic and with the vaccine. The name we
wolfs of the world. In fact, I just read Doppelganger
by Naomi Klein. Her head blew up. It's annoyingment wolf.
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There's some feminist left is all of a sudden, She's
on Bannon Show and she started watching. She got the
one thing about Naomi Clin's very interesting. The book is
from twenty twenty three. I got to talk to her
one time. She actually predicted and the only one that
predicted the twenty twenty four race of exactly what we're
trying to do, which is a MAGA plus, which is
the Magabase plus the low information, low propendency plus the
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MAHA moms.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Right, that is a winning coalition.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
If you do that, you can you can change it
like nineteen thirty two, but you have to deliver on that,
and Bobby Kennedy is the way we deliver.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Where do people go to get more information about all this?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Children's Health Defense dot org.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
And that's no longer a fringey group because I friends,
you can't imagine folks said there if you ever whine
about MAGA and how are you can't imagine what they
used to refer to Children's Health Defense.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I mean it was the call fringey whacko wackos.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Right, just by determination, resilience and grit, here we are.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Here, We are, Mary Holland, thank you so much for
ken I appreciate you. Let's play.
Speaker 11 (21:04):
We got Nicole Shanahan, but I got a great cold open.
Let's play it.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
We'll bring you Nicole.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
Hey, everyone, Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's history.
At ten am Eastern time, RFK, we'll sit in front
of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to
be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services.
I urge everyone to call their US senators over the
following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
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He is more than qualified. He's proven principled and prepared
to lead. I'll list I'll share the list below of
key senators. If they represent your state, they need to
hear from you. If they don't, please call your own
senator and ask them to vote yest. We need as
many votes as we can get. So this hasn't been
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widely reported, but in twenty twenty, I cut large checks
to Check Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats
in Georgia from red to blue. The two candidates I
helped elect, Senator Rafael Warnock and Senator John Ossoff. Please
know I will be watching your votes very closely. I
will make it my personal mission that you lose your
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seats in the Senate if you vote against the future
health of America's children. And more than that, I also
want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Markovsky,
Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, Corey Booker,
John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and Catherine Cortes Mastow. This is
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a bipartisan message and it comes directly from me. While
Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't If
you vote against him. I will personally fund challengers to
primary you in your next election, and I will enlist
hundreds of thousands to join me. Big Pharma and Big
Egg have exploited us for far too long.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It ends now.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
You're either on the side of transparency and accountability or.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You are stay in the way.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
The choice is yours.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Please choose wisely.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Nicole Shanahan, Lord, have mercy, girl, you threw down.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
We're telling you that what was that, ma'am. You know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
We're pissed. The moms are pissed.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
I'm pissed and watching the line of questioning that Bobby
has had to endure the last two days from individuals
that have received millions upon millions of dollars direct from
the pharmaceutical companies has been infuriating. And you know what
the thing is is the Maga Maha movement is so big.
(23:42):
I really do think it's the largest movement on the
planet right now.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And we're all watching this.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
Do you think any Senate confirmation hearing has had this
many live viewers? Certainly not as many that are this
deeply vested. And that's what this is all about right now.
And expect that video to go as viral as it did.
And I've heard from so many people who are like,
we're ready to go, can you please primary my senator.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
They're they're they're just fed up.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
We're all fed up, and it's it's time for it's
time to clean out this mess from our government.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Nicole, today, were you taken back by the viciousness of
the not the content of the questions, but the viciousness
of the delivery of some of the questions, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
I don't know where they get this self righteous viciousness
it is. You know, A part of me wonders if
they actually believe have of what they're saying. Some of
it just feels like theater. And the reality is for
the rest of us out here living this reality every
single day in America, helping our kids through you know,
(24:56):
a new historic flu season, a new historic RSVC, and
children that are born with autoimmune issues.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It's not theater for us. This is our lived reality.
Speaker 12 (25:10):
And so when I see that viciousness up there on
Capitol Hill, it's these people are acting. And I think
that at this point, the Democratic Party chooses its candidates
based on who can act, not who gives a damn,
who can tell like any bit of their lived experience
(25:30):
through any bit of integrity, because they're so detached and
they're so removed and the people feel it. Many of
the senators we've heard from that were the harshest barely
won their seats. I mean Mastow, Cortes, Masto, she won
her seat by less than one percent. I mean, these
things are like low These seats are low hanging fruit,
(25:53):
and we're coming after every single one of them.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Unbelievable. Can the cave bear with us?
Speaker 11 (26:00):
I want to take a short commercial break and bring
back some other questions about this historic moment today for
the make America Healthy Again, the MAHA and the MAGA movement.
Nicole Shanahan read this in a little bit, not just
from the campaign, but when she came and talked about
the agriculture departments.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Quite enlightening.
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Short commercial break.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
Nicole Shanahan here on historic day, Make America Healthy Again,
confronted the biotech, big pharma medical complex.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Short break.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
He's your host, Stephen K. Bah.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Nicole Shanahan is with us.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
She was the vice presidential candidate with Bobby Kennedy until
they rolled in and partnered up with President Trump.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Why is this a historic.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Day on Capitol Hill for Bobby Kennedy in both the
MAGA movement and particularly the Make America Healthy Again movement?
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Why is this a transcendent moment ma'am.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
I'll explain it through a story of personal story. My
dear friend and mentor has a twenty six year old
vaccine injured daughter, and she's been at this for twenty
five or plus years, you know, and she's been trying
to she has been heard. She hasn't been heard for
two decades. She hasn't been heard. So for her to
(27:48):
tune in and watch all like watch Mary Holland no
longer be Fringe, watch Bobby Kennedy talking on behalf of
her personal story. The sad part of this all is
that it is no longer fringe. It's no longer fringe
because that many families are impacted by this crisis, That
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many families are impacted by this malfeasance. I mean, that's
why today is historic. It's it's sad that it is historic.
It's sad because it indicates how big of a problem
we have on our hands today.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Some of the folks that you.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
Said, Hey, I'm going to primary these guys because men
and women because shouldn't be around some of you you've
actually supported before. Did you not know at the time
that they didn't really support your core beliefs or particularly
since make America healthy again is central to your whole
mission and why you're kind of involved in politics in
the first place. Did you not understand it? Did they
(28:49):
get bought off? Did they flip? Or are they not the
people you thought they were?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
What about that they're not the people I thought they were?
It was twenty twenty.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I supported Warnock and ass Off, I supported Chuck Schumer,
and I went back and I looked at my notes
from then, I looked at my email exchanges with Chuck
Schumer's office, and I had gone to Chuck Schumer with
a huge folder full of documents about regenerative agriculture, and
I said, why are you guys talking about all of
(29:21):
these other climate change policies. All you have to do
is fix our agricultural system, and everything you're talking about
in terms of emissions and balancing our carbon cycle can
be addressed through regenerative agriculture. Will you please please do this?
And he looked at me and he said, yes, you know,
I need your help. And he explained to me that
(29:42):
he needed to win back the Senate majority, and so
I cut him checks. I said, okay, well, if you're
going to take on regenerative agriculture, and we can move
beyond all of this climate change mess. I'm happy to
support you. This sounds like a great opportunity, and so
I did. And then when that Senate runoff happened in Georgia,
(30:06):
I happened to actually have a woman I had just
started to work with.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Her name is Shirley Sherrod.
Speaker 12 (30:11):
She was head of Agriculture at the USDA under Obama's administration,
and she actually got pushed out. They were very vicious
to her that administration. There was some you know, there's
an NAACP speech that she gave that was mis edited
and then put online. And interestingly it was Brett Bard
(30:31):
at the time when he was sole a blogger.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Uh and and.
Speaker 12 (30:35):
It went viral and and they turned on Shirley without
even any due process. They just turned on her and
they kicked they pushed her out.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And so Shirley is.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
In rural Georgia and she's been organizing rural Georgian farmers
and I reached out to her, and she happened to
have a C four and I said, hey, you know,
I know Stacy Abrams can't get out to rural Georgia.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Can you?
Speaker 12 (31:00):
You know, do you want to mobilize, and she said, yeah,
I'd love to, and you know, I have a C four.
So I sent her a million dollars to her C
four and she got out that vote and they just narrowly,
narrowly pulled off that race. You know, there's suspicion that
there was some ballot stuffing and ballot integrity issues in
the seats were quote stolen.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Perhaps it is, but I do know the role that
I played in all of that, and I take responsibility
for it, and I was, you know, I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
To ever trust these people. It's like do it. And
many Democrats are.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
Opening up to this acceptance that they were wrong, they
were misguided, they were lied to, and it's all this
bait and switch and that's what the party's been and
that's what and nobody in their right mind can continue
to support that.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
Boy, Shirley Sharad I dealt with. I was Andrew Brakeport's partner.
That's a whole nightmare. If it was not for Anthony
wiene or Andrew would have never been back on Fox.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
I'll tell that story later. Man, you just sent shivers
down my spine in the Shirley Charad tape before I
Let you Go.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Yeah, there's been some talk you're very upset what's happened
in California, and there's some talk that you might be
interested in running for governor against against Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Is an't truth to that rumor?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
There is truth to that rumor.
Speaker 12 (32:22):
I'm putting together an exploratory committee this coming summer. I
haven't committed to running yet. There's quite a bit of
work that needs to be done. If it's my time,
I will run. If it is not my time, I
will throw the full weight of my support, my media team,
my endorsement behind somebody great.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Who is Maha Maga?
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Well, I guess he Newsom's not going to run again.
I guess he's not going to.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Get returned out.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
We got a year left.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Yeah, Yeah, Nicole Shanahan, where do people go to find
out more about you, more about your support and kind
of you're one of the co founders of the MAHA movement.
Where do people go to find out more about that
make America healthy again? Where they go to find out
why this is a historic day and where we're up
against in all of this, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean we are really a team, Steve now
and I really appreciate the work you've been doing on transhumanism.
That's a topic that I'm very passionate about. I have
a podcast called Back to the People. You can find
us on all the major streaming platforms as well. I'm
very active on X. That's kind of straight from my
(33:26):
head onto the keyboard. It doesn't go through a big team.
It's my personal way to communicate when i'm finding, when
i'm thinking, and the direction that I'm taking my work.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Nicle Shanahan on X. Where do people get you on.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
X at Nicole Shanahan, Thank you, man, appreciate you, Thanks
you for coming on.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Thanks very much, Steve. Take care.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
What a day we haven't And here's what was so
powerful about it is that and we hope that we
tried to do is kind of NFL red zone.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
We try to cut the first hour. President Trump came
in second hour.
Speaker 11 (34:04):
But if you looked at the intensity and what we
do is really focus on the Democrats because they're coming
in with these vicious questions, cheap shot questions, not really
looking for an answer. We want you to see the
grace under pressure of the Tulsi Gabbards of the Cash
Betels of.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
The Robert F.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Kennedy Junior and these were this was I thought as
nasty as could get. I mean, they came at Cash
with everything, They came at Tulsi with everything. They came
to Bobby Kennedy with everything. And I would tell President Trump,
I think your folks came through with flying collars, given
what it was. And some people got danged up, There's
no doubt about that. I got a few scuff marks.
I don't think anything came close. And not expediting these
(34:42):
and get sent to get the committee votes as soon
as possible, and let's get him to the floor. President
Trump said that when he gave the remarks today about
the tragedy at what happened at outside of over top
of Reagant National Airport here in the nation's capital, right
over the Potomac, this horrible tragedy. President came in at
(35:07):
eleven am and really from I guess a closer to
eleven thirty. He was late eleven twenty. Came in but
held like a thirty five minute press conference. And I
tell people that particularly with this audience, the Sunshine Patriots
in the summer soldiers are always going to be with us,
(35:28):
and you just have to accept that, and the parties
and they just don't let it bother you. You're the
backbone and you're the key part of this movement because
you will always answer the Trumpets call and be there
when you're needed, and you're going to be needed to
get these confirmations across and also to have President Trump's back.
You could see the beginning. If you look at the
(35:49):
last forty eight hours, they're feeling their oats. President Trump's
victory had really smashed his self confidence. I think they
start to realize that they had had every part, they'd
had their hands on the levers of institutional power, and
it gotten lazy, and it really stopped thinking about American citizens,
(36:09):
particularly working class and middle class Americans. They really became
a party of the kind of the billionaires. Then the
credential class dropped all the way down to kind of
the not the working poor, but just the kind of
the abject poor. And they lost their way in a
big way, and they got smoked and they realized a
long torturous path back when you've forgotten those those values.
(36:31):
But they've seen in the last forty eight hours this
is about the memo, and the memo went out was
a perfectly fine moment. Did it go through the process,
I don't know, maybe not. But the point was President
Trump was signing executive orders and taking executive actions.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
In the next day.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
Remember we held up that that that headline of the
of the Financial Times of London, it said three hundred
billion dollars basically carved back out. I think of the
Green New Deal program that had been spent, a lot
of this dealt with empowerment.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You know, President from signed the executive order. In the
next day.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
You know the New York Times report, well he signed
something on the world health anxiety. But they're really not
out they're spending money. Or he shut down all the
New Deal, all the Green New Deal plans, but he's
still not out there, still spending money. And finally, I
think he told people when guys around him said, hey,
send him mem We're out to everybody, and let's just
go to full stop. We see where all this cash is.
(37:21):
And this is a normal course of business. I think
it's done every and every change of presidency because the
new administration coming in wants to kind of understand kind
of a you know, you're changing the watch where this
cash is going. And they made it the biggest firestorm
in human history. And maybe some people weren't giving a
heads up, who knows, but they made it the biggest
firestorm human history. Then attached I think the doge member
(37:44):
they kind of put like in corporate America, Hey, look
we're doing a restructuring here.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
If you want to buy out, those will be available.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
But if you missed this date, hey you'll be around,
but we can't guarantee you. We're not going to guarantee
you're gonna have a billet because what have I been
talking about here? Program and billets, programs and billets and
not but individual personalities are individual people.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
And you've seen that. That's what that Meno talked about.
Speaker 11 (38:07):
Right, we're gonna be downsizing, We're going to go in
a different direction. President has full authority to do that
those two things. And you saw, you know the firestorm
Rachel Matter, who's now five nights a week, she was
looking for a hook and looking for to get a grip.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
That was part. And you saw today if.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
The illustrio of nature of President Trump going down into
the briefing room and the press was back on, just
like the jackals.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
They were.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
It reminded me of some of the pandemic, of which
remember with Jason Millen who had wore on pandemic and raheem.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Then for a while I just took it.
Speaker 11 (38:42):
But we would show the press conferences and they didn't
want to hear what President Trump had to say. They
didn't want to walk through about what he was doing
on this pandemic, which I think he handled absolutely brilliantly.
Given the information of the time at the time and
how the apparatus was working against him. I almost felt
like we were back to that given the vicious nature,
(39:04):
and it's vicious, the vicious nature of the media. They're
just vicious, and they don't come a Trump with facts,
They're just going to come up with just pure vitriol.
So we have to say I think today, I think
they got lit today.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
So I believe.
Speaker 11 (39:22):
And I keep telling people, I said, look, you're going
to really know who has President Trump's back and who's
in this movement by grinding through the next couple of weeks,
we get all these confirmations that got to get done.
And I believe that. I believe they're they're they're feeling
it there. They think a little bit of blood in
the water. They just do not that there is, but
they think. So. This is why I think, and we'll
(39:45):
discuss this as we go forward. You know, I think
when it's Tulsi's the most vulnerable, Bobby's next in Cash.
I think Tulsi might have come through with this today
thinks she represented Cash. I think they feel they got
a couple of things in on Cash and Bobby. I
think they got some things on Bobby.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Now.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
I agree with Mary Holland. I think Cassie's the key.
We get Casside through it, and he should get through it.
He's a guy that hasn't been particularly pro Trump or
pro MAGA. Think he's up for reelection coming to twenty six.
He's got the reality check and I think you ought
to give him another one two zero two two two
four three one two one. That's imperative, imperative, imperative. That
not just he vote for Bobby Kennedy, but he's got
(40:23):
to help expedite we got to get a committee vote.
I would love to see that tomorrow. Although they've asked
Bobby for a bunch of following information.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
I hope his team turns out as quickly as possible.
Speaker 11 (40:31):
We need Bobby Kennedy if the last twenty four hours
forty hours have shown anything about this such tragedy situation
in Washington with the Apache helicopter and the in the
American Eagle jets at President Trump needs his team and
he needs in placement. Short commercial break.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
We'll be back in the morning. Just the morment.
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Speaker 11 (41:52):
You saw it was brutal, brutal Bobby Kennedy, brutal, Tulsa Yabber.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
They try to be brutal.
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Some shots in. They're going to get some shots in.
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You can see now with their testimony why wants them,
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Speaker 8 (43:42):
This is my point about the memo.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
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money is in the entire system and to kind of
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Ussian tanks were rolling across the peaceful border of Ukraine
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This war and suffering.
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Could have easily been avoided if Biden administration slash NATO
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Did you say that.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
I believe you're reading my tweet, Senator, Yes.
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Is the answer.
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A few months later, you said on your podcast and
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Russia that the US and NATO are waging via their
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I believe you're reading my tweet?
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There is a lot of answer yes, you're quoting upon
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To have a conversation with the chairman about whether I'm
taking anything out of context. I don't think I am,
and your answer is yes.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
The findings of the Government Oversight Investigation Committee AN investigated
CDC's vaccine program in two thousand and three. Senator Burton
was chairman of that committee, and he said that's certain
individuals in that program had written off at generation of
kids because of quote misplaced institutional loyalty to the CDC
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and because entanglements with the drug company. But I am
pro vaccine. I am going to support the vaccine program.
I want kids to be healthy, and I'm coming in
here to get rid of the conflicts of interest within
the agency. Make sure that we have gold standard evidence
based science. And if you show me where I'm wrong,
and they'll show me a single statement I've made about
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science that is erroneous.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Which is interesting because here's what you told Ce Bannon
on his podcast. So what we thought would be cool
is if we captured that audio and then of course
had the greatest President, President Donald J. Trump, recite the
pledge of allegiance. Then we went to a studio and
recorded it, mastered it, digitized it, and put it out
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as a song now releasing exclusively on the worm We
we we if you had nothing to do with it,
mister Patel, why did you tell Steve Bannon all his
listeners that you did?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
That's why it says we as you highlighted.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, and you're part of the we.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Right when you say we, that includes you, doesn't, mister Ptel,
not in every instance. Well that's new.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So when you said we, you didn't really mean you.
Is that your testimony?
Speaker 8 (02:47):
Not unless you have a new definition for the word we.
Speaker 9 (02:49):
Oh okay, I always thought we.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Included the person who pronounced the word.
Speaker 10 (02:54):
There's multiple studies establishing the safety of measles and hepatitis
B vaccine and specifically that they are not a cause
of autism in this position, and you have previously said yes,
But if you are approved to this decision to disposition,
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will you say unequivocally?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Will you will you reassure.
Speaker 10 (03:18):
Mothers, unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis
B vaccines do not cause autism.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Senator, I am not going into the agency with any.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
Well, that's kind of a yes or no question because
so if you're because the data is there, and that's
kind of a yes or no. And I don't mean
to cut you off, but that really is a yes.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Or no if the data is there, I will absolutely
do that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now there is the data.
Speaker 10 (03:46):
Just because I used to I used to do hepatitis BEE.
As I've said, I know the data is there.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, then then I will be the first person if
you show me data, I will be the first person
to assure the American people to take you that they
need to take those vaccines.
Speaker 10 (04:04):
Now, what concerns me is that you've cast out on
some of these vaccines recently, I mean like the last
few years. But the data, and I can quote some
of it, the data has been there for a long time.
I've been out of the game. I've been in Congress
for sixteen years, and this data was in large measure
generated before I came to Congress. So my concern is
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that if you were making those claims and being so influential, I.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mean, your bullypoop is incredible with that.
Speaker 10 (04:33):
Responsibility, that you never acquainted yourself with anything that might
contradict that what you were previously saying.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So let me ask once more, if the.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
Data is brought to you and these studies that have
been out there for quite some time and have been
peer reviewed, and it shows that these two vaccines are
not associated with autism, will you ask no, I need
even more or will you say no, I see this.
It's the test of time, and I unequivocally and without qualification,
say that this does not cause autism.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Not only will I do that, but I will apologize
for any statements that misled people otherwise.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Next, I just want to pledge you and I will
never stick on a point if somebody shows me that
it says I'm wrong. I know that that's an interpretation
people have, but it's absolutely wrong.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
This is the crimal screen of a dying regime.
Speaker 11 (05:35):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 11 (05:47):
I know you've tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
It's going to happen. And where do people like that
go to share the big line?
Speaker 9 (05:55):
Mega media?
Speaker 11 (05:56):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved war.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bath.
Speaker 11 (06:20):
It's Thursday, thirty January, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.
What a day Wow, where to start? Where we're going
to start? As Mary Holland is back. We asked her
yesterday and she came back. She was good for her word.
Mary Holland, Children Health's Defense you were would you enthusiastic yesterday?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Are you just patting us on the head and making
us feel better?
Speaker 12 (06:43):
That?
Speaker 8 (06:44):
Did Bobby Kennedy get chopped up today? Or he hold
his own?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Listen?
Speaker 13 (06:48):
The intent was to chop him up both days pretty intense,
very intense. Both the questions were brutal and tough. They
were tough, but I think he held his own. I
don't think we expected it to be pretty. It's a confirmation,
no confirmation. That's the whole issue.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
You're saying the game is, the game.
Speaker 13 (07:04):
Is up or down, and I think it's going to
be up now. You mentioned to me Cassidy, the chairman,
and that he was negative.
Speaker 11 (07:11):
I'm standing on a hangar before you get there. It's
not just up or down and supper down where you
get through. But when I hear Bobby Kennedy sitting there
and going, I'm pro vaccine, and they're also what they're
trying to do if they can't remove them, they want
to narrow their options. Look, Bobby Kennedy. We're a right
wing audience, and our audience buying large loves Bobby Kennedy
because he's a fighter, right, He's a fighter. This whole
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a Make America Healthy Again has hit a chord at
deep courting people.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
What we saw today is that they're trying to box
him in.
Speaker 11 (07:40):
Even if he gets through, they're trying to box him
in on those one or two huge things he has
to do.
Speaker 13 (07:45):
Correct I agree with that they're going to try to
box him in. I think he didn't take the bait
on a lot of those yes no questions that take
a lot of nuance in long conversations, and I think
he has to come in saying I'm going to accept
the way HH is today, HHS is today, but I'm
going to bring radical transparency and gold standard science. Once
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he does that, Steve, he brings transparency in science, he's
going to make changes based on that. But he has
to say and he has to actually take actions to
accept what he's walking into.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So I don't know that he's going to He's not
going to be static to change things.
Speaker 13 (08:21):
He's going to make people healthy again, He's going to
have to make major changes. But he has to say
walking in the door, he respects what his predecessors have
done for many years.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
For our audience is that.
Speaker 11 (08:35):
It's so obvious to me that big Pharma owns this
city and you just see it come through. And what's interesting,
they have a raw hatred for Bobby Kennedy like they
have for Trump on different issues. But they don't hate TULCA.
They don't hate cash, they don't. They dislike them. They
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want to stop them, and something wants there's a visceral.
They are incensed by Bobby Kennedy. Am I wrong in that?
Speaker 9 (09:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think you're right about that.
Speaker 13 (09:04):
And as we said yesterday, you know seven pharma lobbyists
for one member of Congress. So yeah, they're out for
him because he does threaten the pharmaceutical medical complex, no
question about that. He's going to open the books. The
books have been closed. Pharma gives the documents that they
want to the FDA and the CDC. FDA CDC don't
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do their own original science, and i AGE gets royalties
when they work with pharma. They get a lot of
their budget from pharma directly. So yeah, Bobby is very
threatening to the pharmaceutical complex.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
They don't like him.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Let's talk about the process today.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
We have to have committee votes at a finance and
Health and Human services today? Where do we stand on those?
So only you're the whip here for Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Right, Well, no, I'm at an independent organization, but he
founded us, so I'm.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
The only untas.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, I'm company packed.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
You guys packed this.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
The movement had thousands of people, and you have these mothers.
Speaker 11 (10:02):
The article today, I think in the Federalists if I'm correct,
of the Free Press, one of them that says the
most powerful new force in American politics is these moms
of the make America Healthy again.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
That you've probably changed the DUNIAMA.
Speaker 13 (10:17):
That's as it should be, Steve and in fact Cassidy said,
and Bobby said, this is a transcendent, powerful movement and
it crosses party lines. It is a movement across all
kinds of demographics, and it's exciting because it really is
about positive change. Who can be against people being healthy?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
O tell you who?
Speaker 11 (10:35):
Well, yes, I got a couple of them today. They
were coming at this guy like they were trying to
you know, killing.
Speaker 13 (10:42):
Sick people are very profitable. Healthy people are not profitable.
Farma knows that very well. Bobby Kennedy knows that very well. So, yeah,
they don't like him. And it was as nasty as
I fully expected as being.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
It wasn't so you met it was nasty.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Oh absolutely, it was nasty.
Speaker 13 (10:56):
But one of the important things on this pharma issue
is Bobby did push back against Bernie Sanders and say, Bernie,
you're taking money from pharma and maybe from individuals, but
you're taking a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
He didn't like that one bid.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Let's do the head count on finance and Cassidy is
a swing guy here Inny.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, Cassidy's very powerful right now because Cassidy the only
vote that counts as the Finance Committee, and on the
Finance Committee, Cassidy's vote is critical.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
To send it to the four Finance Committee.
Speaker 13 (11:25):
The Help Committee was a courtesy hearing. It was not
a voting committee. So today was a courtesy and a
lot more senators got direct exposure. They went on the record,
but the only vote accounts is yesterday. Cassidy's on that
committee and.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
He hasn't vot You've lost the committee.
Speaker 13 (11:40):
It'd be very if they need Cassidy's vote on the
Finance Committee. I do believe that he's a traditional physician
who left private practice sixteen years ago. It makes perfect
sense to me that he has absorbed the narrative of
mainstream medicine. Vaccines are safe and effective, vaccines, safe lives.
He needs to talk more with Bobby to get comfort
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with Bobby that Bobby is not going to take people's
vaccines away.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
He comes.
Speaker 13 (12:07):
He gave a speech today about the about hepatitis b.
He was a liver specialist. He is following the narrative
of mainstream medicine. But I think he is movable. I
think he wanted to put those reservations on the record.
But I hope and I do believe that he will
support President Trump's nominee for his cabinet.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Numbers two zero two two two four three one two one.
We have work to do today, all three nominees. But
make sure you call, and you should direct your call
to Cassidy, Senator Cassidy's office and let him know that you.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Support Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 11 (12:40):
And get into Tulsi and Cash a little later in
the show.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
But we need all these hanging in the balance.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
They can all get across, and we have a big
massive grassroots uprising say President Trump deserves his his candidates.
When you just said, there, Bobby, you sound like the
old Bobby Kennedy that when the Bobby candidate we saw
up there, you would think the guy ever questioned a
vaccine in his life by the answers.
Speaker 13 (13:04):
Steve, if you've read the four books that he wrote
while he was in children's health defense, you know this
guy questions vaccines, and you know that he's talking about
radical transparency, gold standard science, and.
Speaker 11 (13:14):
He's saying here he's pro vaccine today, Steve, he would,
you know, just asking a simple question.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
Yes, he said that, Steve, and I and I think
he has always said I'm not anti vaccine, and if
it really makes me healthy, I'm the first one who's
going to take it if the benefits overwhelmingly outweigh the
risk on the first one in line, He's never not
he's never abandoned that statement. Once people know the real
science and there's real transparency, I assure you a lot
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of people are going to change.
Speaker 11 (13:42):
The MAHA moment. Can you stay through the break? Nicole
Shan has not that we're kind of jammed for. Is
MAHA make America healthy again? Is it a modern grassroots
uprising of particularly mothers.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
That's or is it a cult?
Speaker 13 (13:57):
No, this is this is decades in the May Steve.
I've been a part of this movement for twenty years.
This is a long term grassroots movement that is finally
getting a moment in the sun. This is not going away,
and this is a powerful movement.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
And this is why this is a transcendent moment. This
is a moment that has to be seized. And you
believe that Cassidy. President Trump understands that he does, which
is pretty powerful.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
It is that he would kind of get this. He
got it a long time ago, but he got this.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
You know, I think Cassidy gets it too. He doesn't
want to go against this movement. He made it really clear,
I'm going to have moms on my case. So many
of the senators said that it's really true. They know
that there's going to be a political price to pay
if they don't support this nominee.
Speaker 11 (14:39):
Can you hang them for a second, Sir Mary Holland
from a children's health offense, By the way, fantastic job.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
The MAHA movement turned out the last two days in
the cold, pretty impressive.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
Short commercial break Johnny contakes us out with American Heart
Willn't be back in a moment.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
Also, Nicole Shanahan, let me join us.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
Your host Stephen gave back.
Speaker 11 (15:05):
An historic day in the Imperial Capital. Today we had
Robert F. Kennedy Junior being grilled on being the Secretary
of Health and Human Service as a transcendent moment, in
a historic moment for this country. We had Cash Betel
for the FBI, and Tulci Gabbart for d and I
three friends of the show, and I know the audience
is all in. We kind of had NFL red zone
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in the first hour. Then President Trump stepped up and
gave just a how can I say it, a pretty
impressive press conference that heads are still blowing up. So
Natalie Winners is going to be We're going to get
Natalie up at six and we're going to go through
all that.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
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we start getting into the muck of headcount and how
we're going to get this passed? Why is this a
transcendent moment today, a historic moment to day and you
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can kind of feel it, and you could particularly feel
it in the forces that are receding. Why is this
a transcendent and historic moment?
Speaker 13 (16:39):
Well, even regardless of the confirmation, thousands of people showed up.
This is a movement that has been growing from the
grassroots for decades and it is now the sun. So
the New York Times is coming to talk to me.
LA Times just ran a favorable piece about Bobby Kennedy.
Politico did a halfway favorable piece about children's health defense.
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This movement is no longer wacko, anti vacked, fringe, marginal.
This movement is now mainstream and people realize that over
half of this country adults and kids are sick. We've
got to do something. As Bobby says, it's existential amazing.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
Let's talk about the practicality of the steps we have
to do.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
The numbers two zero two two two four three one
two one.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
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he's got that can help you, or our own.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Grace Chung has got the bill blaster. One of those
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Speaker 11 (17:36):
But make sure today and we're going to take them
Bobby Kennedy first, and we're going to talk about Tulsa
and Cash litle later. We've got work to do overnight
and tomorrow. These are hanging in the balance. I would
say we should take.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Nothing for granted, Take nothing for granted.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
At the Finance Committee.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
Senator Cassidy, who's a was a physician up until ten
years ago.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
He's the central person.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yes, yes, he's the central person.
Speaker 13 (17:57):
He expressed his reservations today, but I do think he
said he might want to be in touch with Bobby
over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I do believe he's going to come around.
Speaker 13 (18:06):
He said that he wants to support President trump slate,
he wants to support the vision. I do believe that
he wanted to put those on the record, but that
he is will. I think he'll come around.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Where do we stand then with the floor vote?
Speaker 11 (18:21):
You know Murkowski Collins, So McConnell, I mean take down three.
Speaker 13 (18:26):
Right, So McConnell, you know, as a polio survivor, he
is anti. You know he's not going to vote for
Bobby Kennedy. Murkowski and Collins were both at the Help
Committee today. Both of them asked detailed questions about Maine
and Alaska. They both had concerns, but my impression was
that they were comfortable voting in favor of Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 11 (18:47):
And so you think that those have been against some
of President Trump's earlier picks. They were key for Gates
leaving the yard. They were some of the toughest on
Pete and eventually didn't vote for him. You think that
Murkowski and Colin from the way you saw the question
of the body.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Language, That's what I saw today.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Are you guys whipping votes? Are you are you there
to tay?
Speaker 11 (19:05):
Are you getting information and giving back to Bobby about
where we stand.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
No, I mean, you know, he's got his own team.
I'm outside of that, but I think that's what it
looked like today.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
What is it? Do you have any idea on the
timing of this?
Speaker 13 (19:19):
People don't think that it's going to be tomorrow. Bobby
had to answer questions.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
He gets more information about so they.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Have to write. So they had questions. There's a record.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
He's submitting those answers tomorrow today from the questions yesterday.
But they expect to vote next week.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
Yeah, Prisident Trump's very adamant now about Thune's got to
pick up the.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Pace series once. It's guys, and you saw this AA situation.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Where do people go to get you? Because now more
than ever and we really want you to start. Our
next guest, Nicole Shanahan brought it up the first time
about agriculture and make America healthy again. We clearly want
to get more people on here. We broke new ground
on the pandemic and with the vaccine. The name we
wolfs of the world. In fact, I just read Doppelganger
by Naomi Klein. Her head blew up. It's annoyingment wolf.
(20:04):
There's some feminist left is all of a sudden, She's
on Bannon Show and she started watching. She got the
one thing about Naomi Clin's very interesting. The book is
from twenty twenty three. I got to talk to her
one time. She actually predicted and the only one that
predicted the twenty twenty four race of exactly what we're
trying to do, which is a MAGA plus, which is
the Magabase plus the low information, low propendency plus the
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MAHA moms.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Right, that is a winning coalition.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
If you do that, you can you can change it
like nineteen thirty two, but you have to deliver on that,
and Bobby Kennedy is the way we deliver.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Where do people go to get more information about all this?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Children's Health Defense dot org.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
And that's no longer a fringey group because I friends,
you can't imagine folks said there if you ever whine
about MAGA and how are you can't imagine what they
used to refer to Children's Health Defense.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I mean it was the call fringey whacko wackos.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Right, just by determination, resilience and grit, here we are.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Here, We are, Mary Holland, thank you so much for
ken I appreciate you. Let's play.
Speaker 11 (21:04):
We got Nicole Shanahan, but I got a great cold open.
Let's play it.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
We'll bring you Nicole.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
Hey, everyone, Tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's history.
At ten am Eastern time, RFK, we'll sit in front
of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to
be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services.
I urge everyone to call their US senators over the
following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
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He is more than qualified. He's proven principled and prepared
to lead. I'll list I'll share the list below of
key senators. If they represent your state, they need to
hear from you. If they don't, please call your own
senator and ask them to vote yest. We need as
many votes as we can get. So this hasn't been
(21:52):
widely reported, but in twenty twenty, I cut large checks
to Check Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats
in Georgia from red to blue. The two candidates I
helped elect, Senator Rafael Warnock and Senator John Ossoff. Please
know I will be watching your votes very closely. I
will make it my personal mission that you lose your
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seats in the Senate if you vote against the future
health of America's children. And more than that, I also
want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Markovsky,
Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, Corey Booker,
John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and Catherine Cortes Mastow. This is
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a bipartisan message and it comes directly from me. While
Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't If
you vote against him. I will personally fund challengers to
primary you in your next election, and I will enlist
hundreds of thousands to join me. Big Pharma and Big
Egg have exploited us for far too long.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It ends now.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
You're either on the side of transparency and accountability or.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You are stay in the way.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
The choice is yours.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Please choose wisely.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Nicole Shanahan, Lord, have mercy, girl, you threw down.
Speaker 11 (23:09):
We're telling you that what was that, ma'am. You know.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
We're pissed. The moms are pissed.
Speaker 12 (23:18):
I'm pissed and watching the line of questioning that Bobby
has had to endure the last two days from individuals
that have received millions upon millions of dollars direct from
the pharmaceutical companies has been infuriating. And you know what
the thing is is the Maga Maha movement is so big.
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I really do think it's the largest movement on the
planet right now.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And we're all watching this.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
Do you think any Senate confirmation hearing has had this
many live viewers? Certainly not as many that are this
deeply vested. And that's what this is all about right now.
And expect that video to go as viral as it did.
And I've heard from so many people who are like,
we're ready to go, can you please primary my senator.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
They're they're they're just fed up.
Speaker 12 (24:14):
We're all fed up, and it's it's time for it's
time to clean out this mess from our government.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Nicole, today, were you taken back by the viciousness of
the not the content of the questions, but the viciousness
of the delivery of some of the questions, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
I don't know where they get this self righteous viciousness
it is. You know, A part of me wonders if
they actually believe have of what they're saying. Some of
it just feels like theater. And the reality is for
the rest of us out here living this reality every
single day in America, helping our kids through you know,
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a new historic flu season, a new historic RSVC, and
children that are born with autoimmune issues.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It's not theater for us. This is our lived reality.
Speaker 12 (25:10):
And so when I see that viciousness up there on
Capitol Hill, it's these people are acting. And I think
that at this point, the Democratic Party chooses its candidates
based on who can act, not who gives a damn,
who can tell like any bit of their lived experience
(25:30):
through any bit of integrity, because they're so detached and
they're so removed and the people feel it. Many of
the senators we've heard from that were the harshest barely
won their seats. I mean Mastow, Cortes, Masto, she won
her seat by less than one percent. I mean, these
things are like low These seats are low hanging fruit,
(25:53):
and we're coming after every single one of them.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Unbelievable. Can the cave bear with us?
Speaker 11 (26:00):
I want to take a short commercial break and bring
back some other questions about this historic moment today for
the make America Healthy Again, the MAHA and the MAGA movement.
Nicole Shanahan read this in a little bit, not just
from the campaign, but when she came and talked about
the agriculture departments.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Quite enlightening.
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Speaker 8 (26:44):
Short commercial break.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
Nicole Shanahan here on historic day, Make America Healthy Again,
confronted the biotech, big pharma medical complex.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Short break.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
He's your host, Stephen K. Bah.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Nicole Shanahan is with us.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
She was the vice presidential candidate with Bobby Kennedy until
they rolled in and partnered up with President Trump.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Why is this a historic.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Day on Capitol Hill for Bobby Kennedy in both the
MAGA movement and particularly the Make America Healthy Again movement?
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Why is this a transcendent moment ma'am.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
I'll explain it through a story of personal story. My
dear friend and mentor has a twenty six year old
vaccine injured daughter, and she's been at this for twenty
five or plus years, you know, and she's been trying
to she has been heard. She hasn't been heard for
two decades. She hasn't been heard. So for her to
(27:48):
tune in and watch all like watch Mary Holland no
longer be Fringe, watch Bobby Kennedy talking on behalf of
her personal story. The sad part of this all is
that it is no longer fringe. It's no longer fringe
because that many families are impacted by this crisis, That
(28:11):
many families are impacted by this malfeasance. I mean, that's
why today is historic. It's it's sad that it is historic.
It's sad because it indicates how big of a problem
we have on our hands today.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Some of the folks that you.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
Said, Hey, I'm going to primary these guys because men
and women because shouldn't be around some of you you've
actually supported before. Did you not know at the time
that they didn't really support your core beliefs or particularly
since make America healthy again is central to your whole
mission and why you're kind of involved in politics in
the first place. Did you not understand it? Did they
(28:49):
get bought off? Did they flip? Or are they not the
people you thought they were?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
What about that they're not the people I thought they were?
It was twenty twenty.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I supported Warnock and ass Off, I supported Chuck Schumer,
and I went back and I looked at my notes
from then, I looked at my email exchanges with Chuck
Schumer's office, and I had gone to Chuck Schumer with
a huge folder full of documents about regenerative agriculture, and
I said, why are you guys talking about all of
(29:21):
these other climate change policies. All you have to do
is fix our agricultural system, and everything you're talking about
in terms of emissions and balancing our carbon cycle can
be addressed through regenerative agriculture. Will you please please do this?
And he looked at me and he said, yes, you know,
I need your help. And he explained to me that
(29:42):
he needed to win back the Senate majority, and so
I cut him checks. I said, okay, well, if you're
going to take on regenerative agriculture, and we can move
beyond all of this climate change mess. I'm happy to
support you. This sounds like a great opportunity, and so
I did. And then when that Senate runoff happened in Georgia,
(30:06):
I happened to actually have a woman I had just
started to work with.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Her name is Shirley Sherrod.
Speaker 12 (30:11):
She was head of Agriculture at the USDA under Obama's administration,
and she actually got pushed out. They were very vicious
to her that administration. There was some you know, there's
an NAACP speech that she gave that was mis edited
and then put online. And interestingly it was Brett Bard
(30:31):
at the time when he was sole a blogger.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Uh and and.
Speaker 12 (30:35):
It went viral and and they turned on Shirley without
even any due process. They just turned on her and
they kicked they pushed her out.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And so Shirley is.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
In rural Georgia and she's been organizing rural Georgian farmers
and I reached out to her, and she happened to
have a C four and I said, hey, you know,
I know Stacy Abrams can't get out to rural Georgia.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Can you?
Speaker 12 (31:00):
You know, do you want to mobilize, and she said, yeah,
I'd love to, and you know, I have a C four.
So I sent her a million dollars to her C
four and she got out that vote and they just narrowly,
narrowly pulled off that race. You know, there's suspicion that
there was some ballot stuffing and ballot integrity issues in
the seats were quote stolen.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Perhaps it is, but I do know the role that
I played in all of that, and I take responsibility
for it, and I was, you know, I was wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
To ever trust these people. It's like do it. And
many Democrats are.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
Opening up to this acceptance that they were wrong, they
were misguided, they were lied to, and it's all this
bait and switch and that's what the party's been and
that's what and nobody in their right mind can continue
to support that.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
Boy, Shirley Sharad I dealt with. I was Andrew Brakeport's partner.
That's a whole nightmare. If it was not for Anthony
wiene or Andrew would have never been back on Fox.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
I'll tell that story later. Man, you just sent shivers
down my spine in the Shirley Charad tape before I
Let you Go.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Yeah, there's been some talk you're very upset what's happened
in California, and there's some talk that you might be
interested in running for governor against against Gavin Newsom?
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Is an't truth to that rumor?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
There is truth to that rumor.
Speaker 12 (32:22):
I'm putting together an exploratory committee this coming summer. I
haven't committed to running yet. There's quite a bit of
work that needs to be done. If it's my time,
I will run. If it is not my time, I
will throw the full weight of my support, my media team,
my endorsement behind somebody great.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Who is Maha Maga?
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Well, I guess he Newsom's not going to run again.
I guess he's not going to.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Get returned out.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
We got a year left.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
Yeah, Yeah, Nicole Shanahan, where do people go to find
out more about you, more about your support and kind
of you're one of the co founders of the MAHA movement.
Where do people go to find out more about that
make America healthy again? Where they go to find out
why this is a historic day and where we're up
against in all of this, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean we are really a team, Steve now
and I really appreciate the work you've been doing on transhumanism.
That's a topic that I'm very passionate about. I have
a podcast called Back to the People. You can find
us on all the major streaming platforms as well. I'm
very active on X. That's kind of straight from my
(33:26):
head onto the keyboard. It doesn't go through a big team.
It's my personal way to communicate when i'm finding, when
i'm thinking, and the direction that I'm taking my work.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Nicle Shanahan on X. Where do people get you on.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
X at Nicole Shanahan, Thank you, man, appreciate you, Thanks
you for coming on.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Thanks very much, Steve. Take care.
Speaker 11 (33:54):
What a day we haven't And here's what was so
powerful about it is that and we hope that we
tried to do is kind of NFL red zone.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
We try to cut the first hour. President Trump came
in second hour.
Speaker 11 (34:04):
But if you looked at the intensity and what we
do is really focus on the Democrats because they're coming
in with these vicious questions, cheap shot questions, not really
looking for an answer. We want you to see the
grace under pressure of the Tulsi Gabbards of the Cash
Betels of.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
The Robert F.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Kennedy Junior and these were this was I thought as
nasty as could get. I mean, they came at Cash
with everything, They came at Tulsi with everything. They came
to Bobby Kennedy with everything. And I would tell President Trump,
I think your folks came through with flying collars, given
what it was. And some people got danged up, There's
no doubt about that. I got a few scuff marks.
I don't think anything came close. And not expediting these
(34:42):
and get sent to get the committee votes as soon
as possible, and let's get him to the floor. President
Trump said that when he gave the remarks today about
the tragedy at what happened at outside of over top
of Reagant National Airport here in the nation's capital, right
over the Potomac, this horrible tragedy. President came in at
(35:07):
eleven am and really from I guess a closer to
eleven thirty. He was late eleven twenty. Came in but
held like a thirty five minute press conference. And I
tell people that particularly with this audience, the Sunshine Patriots
in the summer soldiers are always going to be with us,
(35:28):
and you just have to accept that, and the parties
and they just don't let it bother you. You're the
backbone and you're the key part of this movement because
you will always answer the Trumpets call and be there
when you're needed, and you're going to be needed to
get these confirmations across and also to have President Trump's back.
You could see the beginning. If you look at the
(35:49):
last forty eight hours, they're feeling their oats. President Trump's
victory had really smashed his self confidence. I think they
start to realize that they had had every part, they'd
had their hands on the levers of institutional power, and
it gotten lazy, and it really stopped thinking about American citizens,
(36:09):
particularly working class and middle class Americans. They really became
a party of the kind of the billionaires. Then the
credential class dropped all the way down to kind of
the not the working poor, but just the kind of
the abject poor. And they lost their way in a
big way, and they got smoked and they realized a
long torturous path back when you've forgotten those those values.
(36:31):
But they've seen in the last forty eight hours this
is about the memo, and the memo went out was
a perfectly fine moment. Did it go through the process,
I don't know, maybe not. But the point was President
Trump was signing executive orders and taking executive actions.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
In the next day.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
Remember we held up that that that headline of the
of the Financial Times of London, it said three hundred
billion dollars basically carved back out. I think of the
Green New Deal program that had been spent, a lot
of this dealt with empowerment.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
You know, President from signed the executive order. In the
next day.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
You know the New York Times report, well he signed
something on the world health anxiety. But they're really not
out they're spending money. Or he shut down all the
New Deal, all the Green New Deal plans, but he's
still not out there, still spending money. And finally, I
think he told people when guys around him said, hey,
send him mem We're out to everybody, and let's just
go to full stop. We see where all this cash is.
(37:21):
And this is a normal course of business. I think
it's done every and every change of presidency because the
new administration coming in wants to kind of understand kind
of a you know, you're changing the watch where this
cash is going. And they made it the biggest firestorm
in human history. And maybe some people weren't giving a
heads up, who knows, but they made it the biggest
firestorm human history. Then attached I think the doge member
(37:44):
they kind of put like in corporate America, Hey, look
we're doing a restructuring here.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
If you want to buy out, those will be available.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
But if you missed this date, hey you'll be around,
but we can't guarantee you. We're not going to guarantee
you're gonna have a billet because what have I been
talking about here? Program and billets, programs and billets and
not but individual personalities are individual people.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
And you've seen that. That's what that Meno talked about.
Speaker 11 (38:07):
Right, we're gonna be downsizing, We're going to go in
a different direction. President has full authority to do that
those two things. And you saw, you know the firestorm
Rachel Matter, who's now five nights a week, she was
looking for a hook and looking for to get a grip.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
That was part. And you saw today if.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
The illustrio of nature of President Trump going down into
the briefing room and the press was back on, just
like the jackals.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
They were.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
It reminded me of some of the pandemic, of which
remember with Jason Millen who had wore on pandemic and raheem.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Then for a while I just took it.
Speaker 11 (38:42):
But we would show the press conferences and they didn't
want to hear what President Trump had to say. They
didn't want to walk through about what he was doing
on this pandemic, which I think he handled absolutely brilliantly.
Given the information of the time at the time and
how the apparatus was working against him. I almost felt
like we were back to that given the vicious nature,
(39:04):
and it's vicious, the vicious nature of the media. They're
just vicious, and they don't come a Trump with facts,
They're just going to come up with just pure vitriol.
So we have to say I think today, I think
they got lit today.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
So I believe.
Speaker 11 (39:22):
And I keep telling people, I said, look, you're going
to really know who has President Trump's back and who's
in this movement by grinding through the next couple of weeks,
we get all these confirmations that got to get done.
And I believe that. I believe they're they're they're feeling
it there. They think a little bit of blood in
the water. They just do not that there is, but
they think. So. This is why I think, and we'll
(39:45):
discuss this as we go forward. You know, I think
when it's Tulsi's the most vulnerable, Bobby's next in Cash.
I think Tulsi might have come through with this today
thinks she represented Cash. I think they feel they got
a couple of things in on Cash and Bobby. I
think they got some things on Bobby.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Now.
Speaker 11 (40:02):
I agree with Mary Holland. I think Cassie's the key.
We get Casside through it, and he should get through it.
He's a guy that hasn't been particularly pro Trump or
pro MAGA. Think he's up for reelection coming to twenty six.
He's got the reality check and I think you ought
to give him another one two zero two two two
four three one two one. That's imperative, imperative, imperative. That
not just he vote for Bobby Kennedy, but he's got
(40:23):
to help expedite we got to get a committee vote.
I would love to see that tomorrow. Although they've asked
Bobby for a bunch of following information.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
I hope his team turns out as quickly as possible.
Speaker 11 (40:31):
We need Bobby Kennedy if the last twenty four hours
forty hours have shown anything about this such tragedy situation
in Washington with the Apache helicopter and the in the
American Eagle jets at President Trump needs his team and
he needs in placement. Short commercial break.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
We'll be back in the morning. Just the morment.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
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Speaker 11 (41:05):
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You saw the intensity.
Speaker 11 (41:52):
You saw it was brutal, brutal Bobby Kennedy, brutal, Tulsa Yabber.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
They try to be brutal.
Speaker 11 (42:00):
I think she stood them down pretty well, but they
still got They got.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Some shots in. They're going to get some shots in.
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
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We got to fight uh, and you have to let
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Speaker 8 (43:23):
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Speaker 11 (43:24):
You can see now with their testimony why wants them,
and you can see the resistance to them. Wait when
they get in and start taking action, Wait till Bobby
Kennedy takes some action, Wait till Cash Mattel takes some action,
Wait till Tulsi gathert takes some action, just like Pete
Hex's and all these guys.
Speaker 8 (43:42):
This is my point about the memo.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
The onlyb memo was just to find out where the
money is in the entire system and to kind of
go to all engines stop temporary temporarily so we can
just figure out where this is going and they could
ascertain if President Trump's written in executive order. We want
to make sure there's not still money in the pipeline
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