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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All athletes have been forced onto the front lines, and
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men claiming to be girls have stolen more than three thousand,
five hundred victories. That's a lot, and invaded more than
eleven thousand competitions designed for women. Last year, a male
cyclist posing as a woman competed in the eight hundred
mile Arizona Trail Race, a very big deal in cycling,
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and obliterated the women's course record by nearly five and
a half hours. Sounds like a lot, doesn't it. Huh
five and a half hours, But you have to hear
the weightlifting records.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes, you think that's bad.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The weightliftings was in twenty twenty three, a man in
women's power lifting broke two world records and outlifted his
closest female opponent in one event by four hundred and
forty pounds. And they continue to defend themselves, mister congressman,
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you know that they continue to defend themselves. We hope
they continue onward because I don't think we can lose
a race. This is one of the big reasons that
we all want and one of the big reasons that
we had a record, a landslide like they haven't seen
before very often anyway, And who could forget last year's
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paras Olympics where a male boxer stole the women's gold
medal after brutalizing his female opponents so viciously that she
had to forfeit just after forty six seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
And she was a championship fighter.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And actually they had two women or two people that
transitioned and both of them were gold medals and they
won them very convincingly. But all of that ends today
because with this executive order, the war on women's sports
is over. Heather Higgins, Andy Buttner, Victoria Cooley from Independent
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Women's Form. It's a fantastic group of people that fought
very hard on this issue.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You want to do, what's what I do?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And then I'm gonna give you some ten tuk out.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Are you ready? What a nice picture this is?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Uh governor?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You're ready?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We'll do a good job. Are letting impress that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I want to make this a really good signature because
this is you know, this is a big one. Right, Oh,
I think we have a ten.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We have a ten?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, good, Now you're gonna go out and win those events, right.
Nice to see you all, great going everybody. Thank you kids, here,
take a bad in here, I'll give some of these
other Okay, take.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The pen, take the pad. Thank you so much, Ruth.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
There's not got a free shot.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And all these networks lying about the people, the people
have had a belly full of it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I know you tried to do everything.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
In the world to stop that, but you're not going
to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Mega media?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Will be saved.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
War use your host, Stephen cave Back.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
It's Wednesday, five February, Year of a Lord, twenty twenty five.
Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening edition of the Warroom.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
We're gonna get down. We've got a lot to go
through this afternoon and early this evening. Or go to
the White House at while.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
To our own Natalie Winters want to start. The war
on women is drawing to a close because the President
Trump want to bring in Carrie Sheffield, Independent Women's Form,
Independent Woman's Voice. Carrie, I think, if memory serves me correctly,
years ago, you're the very first person come on war
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Room and highlight to our audience this situation with men
playing women's sports. I remember talking before here and I
going is this actually a thing? And then you shocked
the MAGA movement by telling us it actually was a thing.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
How big a day was this for you.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Ma'am Steve.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
I am not tired of winning, but this was an earthquake.
This was the restoration of women's rights. This was the
moment where the Left was exposed. Even you heard the
President in the clip you played, he said, keep doing this, please, please, Left,
keep doing this because we're going to keep winning in
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elections because you don't care about women. You don't care
about the bodily safety, the bodily autonomy of women.
Speaker 9 (05:28):
You don't care that women are beaten to pulps.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
If he mentioned the boxer during the Olympics, she had
to forfeit after just over forty seconds because she knew
she could die or get a concussion from a man.
That is a party, the Democratic Party, the leftist Marxism.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
They do not care about women. That's what this is about.
And so this was a phenomenal day.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
And thank you Steve and Captain Bannon and your whole
team for years for supporting us in this cause. It
was a momentous day. And I'm just it's it's truth.
Speaker 9 (06:01):
Wins, Carrie.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I want to go back. I want to do two things.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Number One, people would think that the Democratic Party was
you know, you had these feminists that came out of
the sixties and seventies. It's always puts itself forward. Is
that you know, Republicans are the populist. Nationalists are heartless.
Conservatives are heartless. They're they're nurturing and their forgiving, and
they're you know, they're they're the easy ones, are always
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there to have someone lean on their shoulder. Why do
you say that they're they're the ones driving the Warren woman?
That would be that would be counterintuitive, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
Well, when when someone can't even define what a woman is,
they're unable to define defend who that person is.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
You can't define it, you can't defend it.
Speaker 8 (06:44):
And so the complete unmooring from reality, from biology, from truth.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
That's really what this is about.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
It is a fundamental unmooring from the truth.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
And the transgender stuff is just one issue. We see
this everywhere else.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
That you know, darkness and disorder versus truth and order.
That's really what this is about. And that's what I
love about your work, Steve, and with war Room, that
you understand that this is not just a superficial political fight.
This is much deeper. This is a fight over what
is right and wrong, evil and good, light and dark
truth and lies.
Speaker 9 (07:21):
And what was very telling the Washington Post news alert
about this. I'll read the wording here.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
It says the New Order threatens to deny federal funds
for schools that allow transgender athletes to compete and keep
through twelve college and sports. It's the latest salvo in
President Donald Trump's attack on transgender rights, another that will
ricochet through schools across the country as the President delivers
on another contentious culture war promise. My goodness, Steve like
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the language here, an attack on transgender rights to completely
ignore what Joe Biden and the woke left did to
women's rights, women's.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Rights who are vulnerable.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Newsflash, women are physically smaller.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
We're not as strong as men.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
That's supposedly what the feminist left fought for was to acknowledge.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
We are different from men. That's what Title nine was.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Title nine, which was signed by a Republican by the way,
Richard Nixon, but it was a bipartisan bill because it
was a Democrat Congress.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
Title nine was under threat by Joe Biden, who wanted
to completely rewrite it.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
You can put out ridiculous regulations toward that effect. We
challenged it in the courts at IWF and credit to
my colleague Mae Melman who wrote that executive order also
that President Trump issued on day one as well.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
So this is if this is the tack that.
Speaker 8 (08:45):
The language that I just read from the Washington Post,
if that's the language they want to take to say
that this is an attack on transgender's rights instead of
the restoration of women's rights.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Steve, We're going to keep winning.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
So Carrie, I want to go back from when you
first started coming on the show and they started guys
that are had the march and Captain Bannon would go
and the march was huge, and you guys kicking our storm.
I thought certain things were being done. I knew in
the courts, but I thought even at the state level,
the House was passing stuff. I'm trying to put stuff
out there. Did none of that work, and that's why
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you had to have the order the other day. In
the executive order today did all those things. We worked
at the state level where they just not powerful enough
to kind of punch through this because these folks kept rolling,
and that's why you needed President Trump to sign an
executive order.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Well, we took it as a full court press. We
took it as our strategy was, let's flood the zone.
We do state, local, federal, we do all of the above.
And that's I think that's partially what's worked.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Is because it's raised the issue. And yes, we won.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
State fights, but Steve, we didn't win state fights in
every state. We only wanted in some states. That our
goal is to win it in every state. But we
wanted the federal protect as well, because this is about
federal money going to these schools, and so whether you're
talking about state or federal dollars, state or federal enforcement,
we needed all of.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
The above approach.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
And again, I think one of the most powerful ads
that we saw last cycle was when the Trump campaign
released the ads saying Biden or I guess it was
by that point. Kamala, Kamala is for the them, Donald
Trump is for you. And this is something that is
it's far reaching beyond just sports. You know, some people
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on the left like to say, well, these are a
bunch of whiny, suburban rich girls crying about their lacrosse team.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
No, this is far beyond just sports. We're talking also
about prisons.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
So at Independent Women's Forum, we've put out a documentary
series about prisons, women's prisons.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
This is this effects not only prisons.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
It affects battered domestic violence shelters, It affects, you know,
anywhere where a woman's bodily safety and vulnerability is exposed.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
To a man.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
This is the new left. This is what the left wants,
and it is so, it is so it's the twilight zone.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
This is this is what.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
I can't believe that we're at this point.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
But again, it's because our culture has fallen so far
from our Judeo Christian roots that the idea that there
is an objective truth has been thrown by the wayside,
and that what is it's so beautiful that President Trump
is reminding us the truth does.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
Exist, and we're not crazy. St We're not crazy. We
will not be Gaslin anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Terry Shilling. Carrie, hang on because I want to hold
you through the break into the next block. Terry Shilling.
I remember we first came to me about this, like
with Carrie, and it was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Is this a real thing? Go back in that time.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I mean, this kind of came out of I think
it came out of nowhere. I know, as we've got
more experts on here, the Brandon Show orders they said, no, no, no,
this has been years in the building, the building. What
shocks me is how the party supposedly of feminism came
up and really drove this thing.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Sir well Steve, this is something that you know took
a lot of work, a lot of blood, sweat and tears,
a lot of getting made fun of and laughed at.
But you know, today was a great day. It's a
great day of victory. The real reason why the feminists
on the left have been so egregious and terrible and
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absent at best on this issue of gender transgenderism is
because they seek to eliminate all differences between men and women.
They want to destroy gender by using gender, right, and
that's not you know something I came up with. They
told us that Judith Butler has written multiple times and
said in multiple interviews that on the issue of transgenderism.
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Their goal is to use gender to destroy gender. So
what they want to do is overload the system, introduce
all this stuff that doesn't make any sense, confused children
at the youngest grades. Their goal is this like disgusting, unappealing,
androgynoust world where there are no more men, there are
no more women. It's just androgyny, and reproduction is controlled
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by the state because we can't handle it. We produce
too many people, we cause climate change, we create all
types of social problems. They want all of this to
be controlled and mandated by the state. That is the
real goal of at least the third second wave feminists.
They want to destroy gender. They don't like that men exist,
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they don't like that women exist. They want something in
between to where they can control. And now you've got
this insane gender industry. Now, Steve, that's mutilating adults and children.
It's four and a half billion dollars right now. Most
of that comes from our tax dollars, medicaid and and
and state funding. It's it's forced to be covered by
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our health insurance premiums. Now President Trump's erasing all of
that though, So I think that Trump's right. This whole
gender madness is going to go away very quickly. He's
instructed DJ, for example, to investigate doctors and clinics who
perform these surgeries on children. It's a beautiful day in America,
and it wouldn't be here without War Room and President
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Trump's enormous victory this past fall.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Well it was President Trump, but it's here because of
the war and Posse and Carrie Sheffield and Terry Shelling
and others, so many others, dozens and dozens we had
in the show.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But the work in the labor, in the in the
in the vineyard owners or take a short commercial break,
or return to this topic. Another victory your way and
days of thunder. President Trump is coming in high in
the Oval Office.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Johnny Cohn takes us out Johnny conn from Breitbart truck
commercial break back.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
In the.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Bath.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Okay, I have Terry Schelling from American Principles Project and
the Great Carry Sheffield from Independent Woman's Forum, two of
the leaders at the tip of the spirit of getting
this done.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Quite amazing.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I remember they came on the show It's Got Me
four years ago on this topic and people I didn't
believe it at first.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I go, come on, is this a thing?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Man?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I didn't know anything about this. As I told Terry
of the time, this is not my life.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
In the executive order, President Trump signed this and it
didn't come first day because they had been working on
this one.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
What is in this executive order and why is that important?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
So this executive order is very similar to the anti
DEI executive orders, which is essentially saying that allowing these
allowing males to compete against women by identifying that is
a violation of civil rights law. So it's changed. It's
basically going back to the original definition of sex under
Title nine and all civil rights law. So if you
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interpret that to mean men who claim to be women,
you are now violating the law. It's illegal, and now
you're at risk of losing federal funding for any of
your education programs. Title nine is all about educational opportunities
for women, and so it instructs DOJ and the Department
of Education to interpret Title nine as only only regarding
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biological sex and none of these made up categories in between.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
So, Carrie Sheffield, what does that mean practically? From what
you've been focused on?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
How do you guys use this executive order to make
sure that we get men out of women's sports? Because
you understand, ma'am, probably better anyone. They're just not going
to respond to an executive order. They're going, yeah, that's Trump,
that's Kerrie Sheffield, she's a radical, Terry Shilling.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We don't care about him. What does this mean practically, Well, in.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Practice, I mean, yes, the left responds to rob power
and that's what this is.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
This is the power of the purse. This is the
power of denying.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Funding by designating people who violate this executive order as
a violator of civil rights. And practically this as in
that clip you played earlier, this has affected more than
eleven thousand competitions designed for women and thirty five hundred
victories where men stole men and boys stole prizes, scholarships,
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victories that should have gone to women and girls. And
so you're talking about tens of thousands of events already
just in the last few years. And so imagine how
many generations we're talking generations forward of millions.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Of women and girls as long as this is made permanent.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
And the question, I know we were talking earlier about
this what he signed today as an executive order, and
we know those are here today, gone tomorrow. The silver
lining though, is that President Trump also signed into law
a piece of legislation which is HR twenty eight, and
that was signed into law last month. I was there
for the press conference with Speaker Mike Johnson right after
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the House.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Had passed that bill.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
And you know what was fascinating was that only two
House Democrats passed or supported that bill.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
I was shocked. I was so disappointed.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
One of them was Quaar from Texas, who is the
only pro life Democrat left in Congress. And the fact
that only two and they were both men, that no
Democrat woman stood up for women's rights and the entire
United States House of Representatives is a sad commentary on
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the state of women's rights in this country.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Terry Schilling, what are currently the politics of this? You
guys have changed the arc of this. President Trump has
changed the arc of it. But where do we stand
right now? Given there's no doubt on the cultural side.
This is one of the more important of the cultural
issues because I think it woke people up to how
radical these people are. As Carrie just said, when you
had to build only two Democrats and one I don't
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think the Democrats considered Quay are even a Democrat given
a stance on immigration?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
What is the politics of this right now, sir so,
Now that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
We've won with this executive order, we've got to drive
this home through the House and through the Senate. We
have to bring votes on this. And here's where I'm concerned, Steve,
is that McConnell when he was in the Senate, he
didn't want to bring up any votes that weren't going
to pass. And that is not how things should be done.
We need to hold these guys accountable, get them on
the record, force every single Democrat in the Senate to
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vote yes or no. Do you think that men who
claim to be women should be allowed to play in girls' sports?
And see what I'll tell you is and you know
this better than most. We're going to be spending five
million dollars in the Virginia governor's race this year. We
just got out of the Field with two of our
focus groups testing this issue in Virginia, and what we
found this is what swing voters. What we found is
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that this issue isn't going away. It's actually much more
powerful and stronger than it was before the election, because
now it's much more real in the minds of voters.
When this issue wasn't that real, and when people still
dismissed it saying that this isn't happening, but it's good
that it is, it wasn't as powerful, but it was
still powerful. Now that voters see that it's actually happening,
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and President Trump has shined a spotlight on this for
the whole country to see. Now it's even more powerful
and effective. So we've really got to drive this home
in campaigns and elections from now up until we get
this law passed, because if we don't, we will lose
momentum and it will run out and they'll eventually sneak
this thing through. But we've got to get votes in
the Senate. That's the next big play here. See, we've
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got to hold these guys accountable. Every Democrat republic and
needs to tell us do you think that men should
be able to compete against girls? Sports? That's the first step.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So you're saying this is still live. This is a
life fire exercise.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
And it.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Was the number one issue for swing voters.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Wow, can.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
This was the number one issue. This was the number
one issue for swing voters in the election, for swing voters.
Not talking about motivating the base, not talking about motivating
the Democratic base. This is a number one issue for
people that were having a tough time to open up to,
a tough time deciding to vote for And it's a
gateway issue, Steve, you said this just a little bit ago.
This opens people's minds that seeing just how freaking crazy
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the Democratic Party is. They actually think that men can
become women through chemicals and surgeries. No one in their
right mind, no sane person actually believes this. And so
we've got to continue to drive the wedge. And here's
the beautiful thing, Steve. We force the votes on this,
and you're going to start to have more Democrats defecting
the more times you force them a vote. And see,
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we don't stop at women's sports. We got to get
these guys to vote on whether or not they should
we should ban sex changes for miners. You think women's
sports is a hot issue for these people. Just wait
until they find out how many sex changes for miners
they're doing in this country and that taxpayer dollars are
paying for. So there's a lot of I'm outside of
the White House. Got we just left and there's cops
all over. But yeah, this issue is hotter than it was.
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He for and it was the number one issue for
swing voter, so we got to keep driving this.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
I will say, I will say, Erry, just reinforce what
you're saying about here in Virginia.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
I live in Virginia.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I live in Arlington, and there is a high school,
Washington and Liberty High School not too far from where
I live, and they just removed an individual who had
a sex crime history, who was claiming to be a
female and was exposing himself in the girl's locker room.
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So it's a shared it's a high school pool, but
it's open to the community. They have a separate entrance
for the general public. And so this dude was going
in and exposing himsel self to young girls and women,
and and it's been this scandal here in Arlington, and
the guy tried to claim the defense that well, I'm uh,
you know, I'm transgender. So I can go in here
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if I want to, Well, you can't if you are
a pedophile. Basically, as I understand it, he has a
criminal record for something involving underage girls.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
And the same thing happened with Loudham County where you
had a father. You know you saw that video, just.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Angry because his daughter was assaulted by a boy wearing
a skirt.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
And aloud in the girl's bathroom. So this is a
hot issue for Virginia and win some sears is uh.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
You know she's been endorsed by Glenn Youngkin to be
the uh designate, the designated candidate she is.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
She's not shy on this issue, which is.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Great, Terry, you said it became real and voters. My
is that because of President Trump. Is mccluhan esque understanding
a mass meat. It was it Donald Trump that made
this reel in people's minds.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
No, absolutely, And look, when a politician starts talking about
an issue, they force conversations. They force conversations, not just
in the media and in the press, they force conversations
at the dinner table, at the rotary club, at the
breakfast clubs that these guys go to. And that's been
what's that's how we app and myself, that's how we
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operate in politics. It's not politicians and downstream of culture.
It's part of the culture. And we can use this
to drive uncomfortable conversations around the democrats insane policies. But yes,
this issue would be dead without President Trump. So President Trump,
I know you watch it. So sometimes thank you God,
bless you for saving our kids and saving our girls
sports and being a leader on this shilling.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Where do people get you? You're on top of this
on fire, sir.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Where they go it's just American Principles Project dot org.
Or you can follow me across every social media platform
at Shilling seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Thank you, brother Kerrie Sheffield. Your fight continues. Where do
people go to follow you? And where they get the book? Oh?
Speaker 9 (25:08):
Thank you, Steve Yes.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
So we're at IWF dot org Independent Women's Forum and yeah, no,
I've got my book.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Thanks for sharing it here. It does folks want to
check my story out motor Home prophecies.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
It actually explains a big part of why I do
what I do, why I'm fighting this fight, because it
gets into much deeper topics around spirituality, good and evil
and Terry touched on it a little bit on the
ideological fight here, because this is part of gender ideology,
and gender ideology is part of critical gender theory, which
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is part of critical theory, which is part of the
Marxist school that we saw over in Germany, you know,
the Frankfurt school, trying to completely obliterate what they say,
you know, race or gender, any differences. God created differences.
God created us in his mail and female. He created
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races as well, and they want to destroy all that.
And said that the book gets into my testimony of
how I went from a bitter, angry agnostic to now
a Christian who is redeemed and healed. And so that's
what I believe at a bigger level our country needs
is that we need redemption and we need healing, and
President Trump is a great fighter for that.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Terry Sheffield, you are a warrior and a patriot. Thank
you for coming on here, ma'am and suring that in
the warroom.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Thank you, Steve, God bless you keep up that amazing fight.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
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A programming note at nine o'clock tonight. I don't know
what blocks you're gonna be in, but Samantha Powers, Samantha
Powers is going to is going to be on Rachel
Maddow defending she She's a former head of us ai D.
If that tells you anything, Natalie Winters, next hour in
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the War, I'll be going through a lot of specifics
that have been put up all afternoon on MSNBC about
the resistance and about their meltdown over things like usai D.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
But Natalie Winters, you've been ahead of the curve from
the beginning. What do you got for US?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Well, look, I think.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
We've been really right in terms of triaging and sort
of I think reverse engineering the resistance's response to what
is going on at USAID and why it's so critical,
why it's such a lynchpin, and all of their sort
of resistance two point zero efforts. And I will say, Steve,
it's quite interesting. Obviously one of the I think most
important reasons that we're here in the press briefing room
(29:24):
is because the idea that civil society the media is
how they're going to push back. So we have, you know,
the insight, the ability to report on basically, I guess
we can watch the watchers, but all up and down
media row, every legacy media outlet in the same way
that you know, they would be pointing to every example
when they can undermine President Trump on any narrative, on
any issue. It's not like they're putting a bunch of
(29:46):
USAID contractors up or recipients of grants, you know, doing
the sort of sad fear porn propaganda about how wonderful
all of these USAID.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Grants have been. And you know why, it's because they're
not wonderful.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
It's because they're not about helping foreign countries, which even
I reject that premise.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
It's about frankly destroying this country.
Speaker 10 (30:05):
And someone like Samantha Power has understood the weaponization of
apparatus is like the USAID for so long, right, the
weaponization against the American people, the destruction. Frankly, you talk
about dedollarization. The USA idea is a prime example of that.
But to that point, I think this whole exercise has
been really interesting because some of the staunchest defenders now
(30:26):
of USAID, that being institutions like the Brookings Institution and
basically all of the thing things here in Washington, d C. Well,
despite coming out with all the hit pieces, all the
articles about how USAID is so critical and so important
and we must defend them, it's quite curious, Steve, because
they never disclose in any of their stories that they've
actually been multimillion dollar grant recipients from USAID themselves. It's
(30:50):
quite interesting obviously. The political story in addition to BBC
The New York Times, I think really is sort of
a mask off moment.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Caroline love it today during her press briefings saying.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
Yeah, about that eight million dollar grant that's canceled, that's done.
We love to see action being taken from that podium
right then and there. But this really shows you and Steve,
I think, to sort of contextualize this, just to wrap
it all up. People may recall in twenty twenty three,
it was October the Biden Whitehouse started leaking to Politico.
They were weaponizing in local media outlets saying that the
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way we're going to get the American people to support
aid for Ukraine, despite faltering, cretering support for it, wasn't
by doing audits, wasn't by showing us where I guess
just seventy seven billion dollars in taxpayer dollars were going.
But what they were going to do was lie and
deceive the American people and say that Ukraine aid was
actually really really wonderful for the American industrial base. Actually
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it was great for American taxpayers and certainly great for
military defense contractors. That's the same exact playbook that you're
saying come from the mainstream.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Media right now.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
They don't want to audit it because they know it's
a deep, dark, depraved underbelly. All they want to do
is try to euphemize, in whitewash the legacy of USAID.
That's what you saw the pressler going on outside the
steps tomorrow. But I will say Steve, today there was
another press gaggle of a bunch of Democratic senators outside
of the capital, not on the steps of USAID, And
if you look at the reporting the coverage of it,
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they were getting booed and heckled, shouted down.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
So it's not really all that popular.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
I think DOJ is a pretty popular idea among the
American people. But make no mistake, Democracy Forward, these resistance
groups are still suing. There's an article from AP we
can flash on screen talking about the avalanche of litigation
that they're now sort of I guess they're taking the
flood of the zone approach and their own resistance mindset
and they're now suing every agency.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
It's metastasizing. Just about an hour ago.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
Democracy Forward, who's CEO, and met with Chuck Schumer this
morning to talk about how they were going to use
litigation to defeat President Trump.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
So that's a buried lead right there.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
But they're now suing the Department of Labor saying that, oh,
you know, dog is trying to do what they're doing there.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
So it's really I think an interesting.
Speaker 10 (32:59):
Sort of reframe back and forth over the idea that
what they're trying to do with DOE just some like authoritarian,
as jen Zaki says, hostile takeover of the United States.
It's not it's what President Trump was elected for. And
it's not just the qut S, waste squad and abuse
about the musicals. It's about the full blown, full scale
weaponization of government agencies to destroy this country from within.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah, I want to go back to that for a second,
and have you explained that one more time for the audience,
Because there's a lot of stuff on the internet and today,
I think, particularly with USAID, I would strongly recommend don't
go into the heading it's too good to check. Some
of the things are coming up are when they sound
too good to check, you better check them because there's
some crazy stuff coming out. But traditionally conservatives, Republicans ourselves
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have gone you know, they've got the drag Queen Story Hour,
or they're funding you know, you know, Wicked in Sub
Saharan Africa, things like that. Right, I love wake in
you said, I know you're saying. I want you to
make the case why that is not what we're talking
about here. The USAID is much deeper, and quite frankly,
(34:11):
even deeper than I think being a CAA cutout overseas.
There's deeper stuff on the suppression of information, the suppression
of conservative voices. Here also the funding with the with
the NGOs for the invasion of the country. I mean,
this is an incredibly well organized, incredibly smart people that
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essentially had a kitty every year of fifty billion dollars,
and it shows you you can go a long way
and destroying America.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Ma'n.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Look, the musicals I think are sort of the limited
hangout version of it. But to that point, it is
curious to me that even the mainstream media is not
trying to, you know, have those people right on their
programs pumping the airwaves saying, look, what we're doing is
so great. I've yet to see a bunch of USAID
contractors or grant recipients, right, That would be interesting message
that I would think they'd be wanting to push.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
But Steve, here's the issue of someone who.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
Has spent hours of my life, days of my life
in the USA spending doc of database and the parophylings
looking at how sort of all.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
This funding works.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
The problem is systemic in the sense that all the
American people get to understand about the billions, about trillions
of taxpayer dollars that we are hemorrhaging to these foreign
countries or these US based NGOs, is like the start date,
the end date it may be, and who it's going to,
(35:34):
and the summary is typically something along the lines of
countering disinformation and the group that it's going to. Sometimes
it's an undisclosed foreign recipient or undisclosed domestic recipient, and
there's nothing we can do to understand who that money's
going to. But more precisely, and this was reporting that
Raheem Kasomni had sit over at the National Pulse of
years ago, we had looked up on Google Maps dozens
(35:58):
of the addresses of the so called you know, fact
checking grant recipients or the misinformation grant recipients. There are
shacks on the side of the road, their non existent entities.
It is clean and simple, pure and simple money laundering. Moreover, Steve,
when you talk about the misinformation kind of censorship industrial complex,
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angle to it, the grants to combat misinformation. If you
itemize them, which I had done, they all start I'm
talking upwards of ninety five percent of them post twenty sixteen. Now,
this idea that misinformation has always been an existential threat,
that's not true. The government only started responding to it
after President Trump won, but more acutely and more precisely,
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there was a populist wave surging, and if you look,
there were grants that specifically talked about debunking and pre
bunking populist sentiment, but they always used misinformation as a
tool right to suppress our movement.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
And when you see them funding to the tune.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Of millions of dollars combating misinformation initiatives in Bangladesh, or
in Uzbekistan, or in Kazakhstan, or in Armenia, and the
only thing you get is a fifty word synopsis that
we're going to empower journalists to counter misinformation in this
third world country that I don't even think, as you know,
Wi Fi, we can barely reach. It really begs the
(37:21):
question of what's actually going on there? And like you said, Steve,
the media wants to look at this issue through the
paradigm of autocratic costal takeover of the United States foreign government.
How about the fact that it's actually just giving radical
transparency to the American people. But the issue is that
radical transparency would expose the fact that USAID is and
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frankly always has been, probably the agency that is most
responsible for building those beautiful mansions along the Potomac developing,
all of k Straight, all of this town that I'm
standing in right now, because there's no auditing going on.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
But it's not a mistake. It's by design, and they're
melting down.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Frankly, it's probably their donors calling them saying, run to
the steps of USAID because I'm about to be exposed
for what I am, and that's a grifter, a liar,
and a fraud, all at the expense of US taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Natalie, the White House, I Ano, they're foald. They've got
the no men and women's sports. He's dealing with the
tariff situation. Gaza was a big thing today of talking
about his idea, but the redevelopment at Gaza, it seems
to me that the White House in the com Shop
has taken a real kind of hand. I know Caroline
(38:37):
mentioned it today, but it doesn't like they're all in
on pushing this. They're letting outside groups and people that
really know the math here drilled down.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
What is their.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Strategy because tonight bringing Samanthem Powers back from the beach
to go on Rachel Maddow in Primetime, MSMEC specifically talk
about this and to push it all afternoon shows you
what a big push they're going to get your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
Well, look, I would take the doge brainiacs and the
Twitter researchers, independent researchers over Samantha Power any day, and
I think the American people would co sign on that
that's a bed.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
I would definitely bet on the former.
Speaker 10 (39:17):
But no, I mean, I think Elon Musk and his
team of just general influencers really has been doing a
wonderful job of exposing the waste, fraud and abuse and
also nefarious activities that are going on at USAID. I
think the White House is when I got here, it's
so busy. I will say it was really a feeling
of jubilation. I think there are so many cute young
(39:38):
girls walking around who are just really really excited about
what President Trump had done with this executive order, bringing
in a bunch of influencers to sort of cover it.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
So they're obviously firing on all verticals, and.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
I think it's nice that, you know, even our audience,
I think is sort of chipping in to the whole
investigative reporting aspect here and just exposing USAID for the
fraud that it is.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Obviously they're taking action on it, right. She was asked
about the eight million to Politico.
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Yes, sort of in the form of subscriptions, but from
the podium, she said, canceling that that's done. I'd also
cross apply that to the BBC in the New York Times.
But they're responding to the evidence that the American people
are putting forward, which I think is truly revolutionary and
a testament that this is the people's president. Right, we
can create a whole news cycle and a whole really
(40:24):
takeover of a just institution that's called USAID. Just from
a couple of tweets.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Natalie, where do people get you on social media?
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Natalie t enters on all social media platforms.
Speaker 10 (40:39):
Thank you for having me, and thank you for audience
forgiving me the opportunity to always come here and then
do these hits from.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
The White House.
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Very cool.
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When you see today President Trump in the in the
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Speaker 2 (46:51):
Sir, well, it's like you know, I always had faith
with my faith in God. But I'll tell you it's
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