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April 7, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, APRIL 7TH, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He wanted it. I think it was canceled in this
now time. I think, get back to work and let's
do it. Let's do it. See we hand it off
to you and we will see you again tomorrow, my friend.
Have a great show. Thank you, Eric, appreciate you love
the handover. Okay, we got a really great to swarning.
You really want to thank my team. The cole Oven
was fantastic, did another great job this afternoon. This would

(00:22):
kind of summarize everything. Let's get it rolled and I'll
come back at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Savas closing mostly lower as a wild session comes to
a close. Looks like we got gains on the Nasdaq
here by the S and P five hundred and touching
bear market levels early in the session. The Dow swinging
more than two thy five hundred points in trading today,
and the Nasdaq trading in a nearly ten percent range.
It was, to say the least volatile.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I just saw this tweet from the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessens,
who posted that he is engaging in negotiations at President
Trump's direction, with the government of Japan. That's an interest one, Scott,
because that does seem to indicate that there are negotiations
going on behind the scenes, or at least they're starting today.
And one of the big questions for the market in
all of this was whether or not this is a

(01:11):
negotiating strategy or whether this is a permanent terraff strategy.
We had Peter Navarro on CNBC earlier today saying this
is not a negotiation and that even if a country
like Vietnam came and offered zero percent tariffs, he said
that wouldn't be good enough. We have to go below
zero by getting rid of all the non tariff barriers.
Here you see Scott Besson saying, well, it is a negotiation,
so make of that what you will. But it seems

(01:33):
to be at least a little bit of a positive
for those who don't.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Like these high tariff rates.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Scott, there's really no sign of the market finding stability.
Just listen to the way that these CEOs are viewing it.
Jamie Diamond, CEO of JP Morgan Chase, says we are
likely to see inflationary outcomes. Whether or not the menu
of tariffs causes a recession remains in question, but it
will slow down growth. Bill al Ackman of the Hedge

(01:59):
Fund person Square says the president is losing the confidence
of business leaders around the globe. This is not what
we voted for. He says, we are heading for a
self induced economic nuclear winter, and we should start hunkering down.
Richard Branson, a Virgin, says, this is the moment to
own up to a colossal mistake and change course, otherwise

(02:20):
America will face ruwin for years to come. Jay Hatfield
of Infrastructure Capital Advisors, this is unambiguously stupid. And Isaac
Larian of MGA Entertainment, this thing is going to backfire,
and yet Donald Trump is still shrugging it all off,
not bothered by what is dangerously close to becoming the

(02:43):
worst three day sell off in thirty eight years. We'll
see how things end bigger than COVID or the two
thousand and eight financial crisis. As Politico put it this morning,
your playbook author has only ever seen one example of
close of a leader taking bold and purposeful economic act
which instantly crashed the national economy, and she was outlasted

(03:05):
by ahead of Lettuce.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
It would be nice to serve a nice, easy term,
but we have an opportunity to change the fabric of
our country. We have an opportunity to reset the table.
On trade, we lose billions of dollars. We lose close
to two trillion.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Dollars a year on trade.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
We lose a trillion dollars a year to China a
trade and we lose hundreds of billions of dollars a
year on trade to China. We lose hundreds of billions
of dollars overall, probably.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Too close to two trillion dollars. Why would we do that?
Number one?

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Why would we do that? And then you have to
say is it sustainable? Then you hear about all of
the people that say, well, deficits that we have a
deficit with the country, or the country has a big
surplus with us, like China is a massive surplus that
they take and they spend their military.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
Well, we don't want that.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't want them to take five hundred and six
hundred billion dollars a year and spend it on their military.
I don't want them spending money on their military. And
I shouldn't have to spend money. We shouldn't have to
spend it either because you know, hopefully, and I said
this to Presidency, hopefully, it's money that we're never going
to use in other words, because we're not going to
use those incredible weapons that we have and that they have.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
We don't want that. So it's going to be very interesting.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's the only chance our country will have to reset
the table because no other president would be willing to
do what I'm doing, or to even go through it.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Now. I don't mind.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Going through it because I see a beautiful picture at
the end. But we are making tremendous progress with a
lot of countries, and the countries that really took advantage
of us are now saying, please negotiate, you know what,
because they're getting beaten badly because of what's happening.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
They're getting beaten badly. They're being devalued as country.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
But it's the only chance we're going to have to
reset the table on trade, and.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
When we do, we're going to come out unbelievably well.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
We're going to have a strong country economically again, and
we're going to have those factories that are empty all
over the United States. We've lost ninety thousand plants and factories.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Think of this, ninety thousan You wouldn't think it's possible.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Ninety thousand plants and factories since NAFTA, which was, by
the way, the worst trade deal ever ever developed, ever.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
Had by any country anywhere. NAFTA.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Well, in the past, he did care about seat market rectornaries, right.
He thought it was the best single indicator of a
president's success. The last time he was in power, when
stock markets were growing up this time around, yes, he
and Scott Guss and his Treasury secretary had been bragging
about how interest rates were falling. Interest rates were probably
falling because investors were dumping stocks and plowing that money

(05:55):
into bonds, which mechanically reduces interest rates. But actually today
rates have gone back up, which almost never happens when
you see a stock market route like this, and there
was some debate about why that might be going on.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It might be.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Because people are just like desperate to hord cash, so
they're selling everything they can. It might be that investors
are trying to pull their money specifically out of the
United States. And it might in fact be that there
are expectations of higher inflation. When there is higher inflation
in this case, presumably due to Trump's tariffs, that would
nudge the Federal Reserve to raise rates, right, which exactly

(06:33):
is exactly what Trump does not want so. I think
that's one very likely course of action here that's driving
these weird things that we're seeing in the stock market
that again or in the bond market that again Trump
had been bragging about now has been silent on that
they're going the other way. But no matter what, the
Federal Reserve is not going to bow to Donald Trump.

(06:54):
It must not bow to Donald Trump. It is politically independent.
It's actual independence and it's perceived independence are crucial to
its ability to keep inflation under control. Like there is
a reason why countries that have more independent central banks
tend to have better inflation outcomes, and it's because if
you put the money supply in the hands of politicians,

(07:18):
people don't believe that that money supply will be stable.
It's what happens in Argentina, It's what happens in Ethiopia,
It's what happened in Turkey.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
I mean, we're cutting prices because prices got so high
people couldn't live.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
I mean the prices for groceries.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
The prices for standard, standard groceries, standard.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Things were going through the roof. They couldn't live.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
And now those prices are coming down, so gol them groceries,
but that's down.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Energy is down, and interest rates are down. Everything's down,
and the.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Interest rates to beauty there is when we refinance debt
desk becomes such a big factor in this country. We're
going to get we're going to start paying dead off
with tariffs and other things. But it's such a big
factor because the interest rate so high. Well now that's
coming way down. So a bunch is going to look
a lot better because interest costs the way down.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
And I guess I've.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Done that, Thank you, mister President.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
I want to ask you about you're right because this
is the first time we hear that the US is
having a direct contact with the Iranians. Is it posible
to give us some more information at what level US.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Is we're dealing with the Iranians.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
We have a very big meeting on Saturday, and we're
dealing with them directly. You know a lot of people say, oh,
maybe you're going through Sarahgate, so you're not dealing directly,
you're dealing through other countries. Now we're dealing with them directly,
and maybe a deal is going to be made. That
would be great, going to be it'd be really great
for Iran. I can tell you that, but hopefully we're

(08:53):
not going to have to get into that.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
We We're meeting.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Very importantly on Saturday at almost the highest.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Level, and we'll see how it works out. Please, this is.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
The primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our
enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. You've
not got a free shot. All these networks lying about
the people. The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Mega media?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Will be saved.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wor use your host, Stephen k Ba. It's Monday, seven
April and the urrollar twenty twenty five. Black Monday was
canceled as much as Jim Kramer and the CNBC crowd
and the MSNBC crowd, and particularly you know Katie turn

(10:12):
All These people don't know anything about the stock market,
never cared about it, but now it's like the most
important thing in the universe. The folks that financed the globalists,
the folks that financed all the factories leaving the folks
that essentially bet against the American people, the folks that
went long other countries and shortened America. They're getting crushed.

(10:37):
Americans are doing just a just fine in a historic day.
A couple things. President Trump right there has dropped a blockbuster. Oh,
by the way, we're in direct negotiations with the arranges
of direct talks. Let mean, if Denver has a Scott Bessen,
the Secretary Treasury, as you know, a contributor at the
war Room for a couple of years, Scott, this is
what God things sorted during the day. Talk about process

(11:01):
and remember these reciple the reciprocity of the tariffs kick
in on Wednesday, one week after they were announced on
the ninth of April, and President Trump says, hey, it's
no negotiation. This is what it's going to be, the formula.
And this is why people refuse. It's not just the
tariff rate, it's all the gaming of the system. The

(11:25):
currency manipulation, the counterfeiting, the trying to get around the rules.
Also all the barriers. They put up, tons of barriers,
not what they called non tariff or non cash barriers,
as Peter and Navarro said for Vietnam. Hey, bro, even
if you went to zero, it's not even close to
being good enough. And this has come as a wake
up call. But they're still stacked up. So President Trump's

(11:46):
prepared to listen. Right, these are going to be trading partners.
He's prepared to listen. But this is a total restructuring
of the geoeconomic order throughout the world. And let me
just read these two. These two tweat it came out
earlier and followed by a third about the Chinese Commanist Party.
This is Scott Besson early in the afternoon, following a

(12:07):
very constructive phone discussion with the government Japan Potist real
Donald Trump has tasked me in the US Trade rep
to open negotiations to implement the President's vision for the
new Golden age of global trade. And then he is
going to do it with the Prime Minister and his cabinet.

(12:28):
So this is direct, high level negotiations. Then Scott Besson
followed that up is saying Japan remains among America's closest allies,
and I look forward to our upcoming productive engagement regarding tariffs,
non tariff trade barriers, currency issues, and government subsidies. I
appreciate the Japanese government's outreach and measured approach to this process.

(12:51):
Another big thing this is like the Chinese Commanist Party
state owned industries and what they do to game the
system with state owned industries against companies here in the
United States that have to compete. All we're looking for
is a level playing field. This was followed very closely,
very closely by China, and this is from the Secretary
of Treasury now in charge of this process. China has

(13:12):
chosen to isolate itself by retaliating a doubling down on
previous negative behavior. Over fifty countries have responded both openly
and positively to the President of United States Donald J.
Trump historic action to create a fairer, more prosperous system
of global trade. He looks forward to to China getting

(13:34):
the message. I think President Trump took tariffs a day
over one against the Chinese Communist Party. It's the folks,
the people that are whining are the people that finance
the Chinese Communist Party. They've been outed, they've been unmasked,
and quite frankly, they've been isolated with the Chinese Communist Party. Hey,
if you've got a problem with your stocks going down,

(13:57):
don't finance the bad guys, and whatever you do, do
not short the American worker, the United States of America,
and particularly never doubt Donald John Trump. He's coming to
this one full on, a total throwdown. And right now
as we end up trading on a on a Monday,
it was supposed to be Black Monday. Unfortunately for the

(14:18):
bad guys that was canceled. Katie Turr a k new
go quiet, great salteers to night over all those stocks
that they didn't drop to the floor. This is completely
manufactured as they're trying to use this as another weapon
to drive President Trump from office in destroy Maga. Guess
what five days into it, it's the it's the tech

(14:41):
bros in the Chinese Communist Party and the sociopathic overlords
on wallste Wall Street taking it on the chops. Short
break back in a moment.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
In America.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Use your host, Stephen K. Bath you know earlier, I
don't know if we play we have time to play it.
But Vandalen said they're prepared to go zero terrorists. But
that didn't even start to talk about the state, own industries,
what they've got, occurrence, all of it. But she may
be threat there if it doesn't happen, you know, if something,

(15:23):
they're prepared to stand up and uh and take countermeasures. Hey, lady,
you take one countermeasure. All the all the underwriting we
do for your defense is gone. Europe can't defend itself.
Europe spends no money on defense. Think about this for
a second. They have all these trade barrier barriers. They
rip you off constantly. There's no American cars in Germany.

(15:45):
They shipp the German cars over here, right from Germany.
Nothing's really made here, manufactured here, even the assembled parts,
even the assembly we do for Fords and others, a
part of the high value added parts that made over
you know, other places. She has the gall to sit there. Hey,
if you don't do this, we're going to retaliate. Retaliate
one iota and we ought to pull all money out

(16:05):
of NATO number one. We ought to move the two
carrier battle groups there in the Red Sea, taking incoming
from the Houties to keep the Suez Canal open so
that you get trade, right, because, as JD said in
that text stream, only three percent of that of going
through there has anything to do with the United States
of America. We're keeping the Suez Canal open. Why, because

(16:27):
you guys are too broken. Never put any money into
the Royal Navy, to the French Navy, to the Italian Navy. Right,
you've underinvested there for decades and decades and decades. And
that's because the globalists, globalist on the Atlantic Council and
staff Rita's and all these people on Morning Joe Richard Haas,
you know you had to have be great partners of NATO.
Why the European nations elites spit in our face and

(16:49):
stole from our workers. And President Trump has stood up
for the stood up to that It's not going to
happen anymore. He's thrown down hard and she has the
gall to retaliate. Then fine, not just cut off NATO.
If we pull out all the infrastructure of our military
throughout Europe, the communications, the logistics, NATO wouldn't exist. These

(17:11):
people have put no money into their military and if
you look at the polling, they're young people won't volunteer
for their military. They're young people, won't fight for their
own countries. You have some very brave people, like in
the British Army, in the Royal Navy, in the French
you have some obviously young patriots in those countries that volunteer,
but overall, you do the polling, they won't fight for

(17:32):
their country. They won't volunteer generally overall, and in the
United States, our infrastructure throughout Europe is what even allows
any type of military sponsor. Lady, you want to talk
tough people to say, hey, we've had enough of it.
We had a belly full of this. We're underwriting a
bunch of elites that are skiing in Switzerland or hanging

(17:52):
out in the south of France, and we don't want
to do it anymore. The American taxpayer doesn't want to
do it. We told you there's going to be turbulent.
And this start off a little dicey last night, you know,
about six o'clock when the futures market open. But it
went all over the map today and kind of landed
in not too bad a place. We're a long way
from being out of this. President Trump says, Hey, this

(18:13):
is just the top of the first inning. You got
to get ready because he is re ordering global trade
to focus on either one bringing manufacturing back to the
United States. So the United American workers have high value
added jobs, right, you know, the most premier manufacturing in
the world, and the American citizen can can then get

(18:36):
a great pricing off that. Or if you're not going
to do that, you're going to pay up to get
into this premium market. You're not giving it away anymore.
And we should not be even considering giving up the military.
I would actually charge the Europeans if you want two
carrier battle groups in the Red Sea and you want
carriers strike forces hitting the Hooties to keep the Suez

(18:58):
Canal open, start sending checks. Folks underwrite it. We're not
doing it for free anymore. That's what customers. We have
a treeon Dollard Defense Bill. The whole fiasco on the
one big beautiful bill. We haven't even had time to
get into it the last couple of days. It's a fiasco.
There's enough no votes in the House right now that
says it can't pass them. Why these are the deficit
hawks of saying this? Are you kidding me? We're actually

(19:20):
increasing spending. Forget the happy talk. Over ten years, that's
all happy talk. And in this fiscal year we're using
Biden's budget twenty five. There's been no impownments, no recisions,
And we keep asking the rest of the guys, like,
where are they doge where is the fraud? Don't put
up something on a website. I want to see cash money,

(19:40):
and I want to see people that start getting indicted
if it's fraud. And on the programmatic side, where are
the cuts? Where are the cuts? You're not seeing it.
And I'm telling you these two budgets, they've got debt
cealiing increases of four training on one hand and five
training on the other. And I think it's a two
year deal. I don't think it's a four your deal.
I think that's in two years. I don't know because

(20:02):
I don't know all the details, but I also know
they're going to run massive deficits and so that just
can't go on. We have to have an adults conversation.
No more get over in the sun that they're doing gimmicks,
they're doing games. The American people don't want to see it,
and particularly Magot, we want to face up that, Hey,
if things have to be cut, they have to be cut.
If taxes on the wealthy have to be increased, in

(20:22):
taxes on the wealthy have to be increased, I'm sorry,
I'm so sorry about that. But that's a financial situation, rund,
because working people deserve an additional tax up besides the
extension of the tax cut they deserve to have. As
President Trump promised on the campaign, no tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, and particularly folks, no tax on

(20:42):
Social Security. Worked hard enough and you contribute so many years.
You don't need to be tax on that. On the
way up, two things are gonna do. Mike David is
going to join us at botom of the hour. Rosemay
gets a huge decision the Supreme Court today. But they're thinking,
they're working on coming into these courts with these radical
judges as I'm not kidding, to stop Trump on his

(21:03):
trade to say it's unconstitutional. That's going to happen. We
talked to Mike about that because we're gonna need you
at the ramparts because now we've got to be bringing
these judges in and grilling them in public to get
people's minds right. Okay, we need a struggle session with
Beryl Howe. We need a stortical session with Boseburg. Those
two to start off with, and I think the message

(21:24):
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the New York Times have been skipping around all day
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Not so fast. Mike Davis will be here to explain that.

(21:46):
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(22:52):
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(23:37):
scare the devil out of you? Okay, intense day on
Wall Street. Here's what's happening. President Trump is going through
both a geopolitical real lyinn me think about it at
SEAPAC back in seventeen, I said, hey, American first, national
security policy, economic nationalism, and then deconstruction. The administrator state,

(23:57):
those are the three big verticals. He's doing it NonStop.
A couple of the numbers some of the engine room
folks that repeat them. Okay, you got thirty seven train
in debt right now, we're going at about one point
four tree and dollars to think gross amount of interest
every year. Think about that for a second. One point
four tree and dollars just to go to pay the
interest on this debt. Well, it's the flip side of

(24:20):
the trade deficit. Trade deficit now is twenty five treeon dollars.
I think in aggregate that means we've spent more or
sent more assets or monetized more assets to buy stuff
coming into this country. We have a descert this. When
President Trump was talking over a tradeon dollars with China,
I think this is a gross amount. The net I
think with China is about six hundred billion last year.

(24:41):
The trade deficit, by the way, the last couple of
months has been at record rates. Why as because they
don't make anything here. We're treated as an economic colony.
We sent essentially raw materials and some services to China,
and they sent us back finished goods, many of which
come from state owned industries. They kind of gained the
entire system that in the transfer and stealing of intellectual property.

(25:03):
So we have twenty five train and trade deficit eighteen
trade just since China came into the World Trade Organization
and got Most Favored Nation status. I think it's six
hundred billion dollars a year for stealing of intellectual property
from our universities, from our companies, from the government, by
the Chinese Comptis Party. I think that adds up to

(25:24):
another twenty five or thirty trillion dollars of stolen intellectual
property that you paid for either supporting these state colleges
or are your taxes going to Ivy League schools, these
the research or your equity investments in these companies. The
intellectual property was stolen by the Chinese Comptis Party, fully

(25:44):
understood by Wall Street. That was on the reasons they said, hey,
you do these joint ventures, you can take the intellectual property.
We get that too. The folks on Wall Street knew
this why they were underwriting it. In fact, they encouraged it.
They thought it was a good thing. You know, why
put money in their pocket. Now it ain't putting money
in their pocket. Quite upset. The last number is the
is the contingent liabilities on the US dollar over one

(26:08):
hundred trillion dollars. I don't want to get into that,
because then you won't be sleeping at all. A Monday
that didn't turn out to be Black Monday. Jimmy Kramer
wanted it, Katie Turr wanted it, all the all the
jackals over at MSNBC wanted it. It didn't happen because
President Trump once again stepped into the breach and his

(26:31):
Secretary of the Treasury stepped up and started getting an
orderly process of how we're going to work through this
short commercial break, Mike Gibson or Mike Davis Rosemary Gibson
next only in the war.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
Room, Chief Justice John Roberts is temporarily blocking a district
court order requiring that is that a Maryland man mistakenly

(27:07):
deported to El Salvador be returned to the US by midnight.
So this gives the court more time to consider the
issue after the Trump administration requested they intervene, So the
legal team for Kilmar Obrego Garcia now has until Tomorrow
night at five to respond. CBS News Department of Justice
correspondent Scott MacFarlane has been following this case closely. Scott,

(27:29):
thanks for joining us. What can we expect in this case?

Speaker 10 (27:33):
The Supreme Court's going to hit this snooze button proverbially
on this case. Doesn't really change the fundamental dynamics here.
They now have until five pm tomorrow to make their
arguments over the matter, but the matter stays the same
a court in Maryland. The federal judge is ordered the
return of mister Abrago Garcia by the end of the
night tonight. Well, that's now pushed at least through five

(27:53):
pm tomorrow. The Department of Justice has acknowledged it was
a mistake in deportation that shouldn't have taken place. But
they've made the argument they can't get him from L.
Salvador because it's now in L. Salvador's jurisdiction. The US
Supreme Court may hash out some of what comes to
them in this. They may kick this back to the
federal judge in green Belt, Maryland, But for now the

(28:14):
deadlines have been delayed. They have not been canceled.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay. Article three's Mike Davis joins this. Mike all day
long up until up until this happened, MSNBC. This is
like the B block. They were saying he's coming back
at midnight or Trump officially gonna be held in contempt.
We just haven't. They haven't decided whether it's civil or
criminal contempt. They were lathered up on this one, bro.

(28:40):
What happened because you haven't heard a peep on it
in MSNBC since this ruling came down by the Supreme Court.
Why is this a big deal?

Speaker 11 (28:48):
Well, I think the Chief Justice finally understands that these
activist judges don't have green Beret law clerks, and so
how the hell do these judges think that you're gonna
order the president of the United States to negotiate with
a foreign leader. A judge does not have that authority
to order the president to negotiate with a foreign leader,

(29:09):
especially on a compressed timeline like this, and get a
result from that foreign leader to bring back and illegal
immigrants into our country. That this guy was from l Salvador.
He was here illegally. He convinced an immigration judge that
he was going to be persecuted and L Salvador, Okay,
well you know what sent him to another country. He

(29:31):
shouldn't be in the United States if he's here illegally.
And for this judge to think that she can order
the president to negotiate with a foreign leader is just crazy.
And fortunately the Chief Justice is starting to wake up.
He's starting to get his judicial house in order.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Now you say this, he ruled against us the other day.
Why do you think this shows you that he's now
focused on what he said about this is important enough
that this because don't they aren't they on the hook
to actually give briefings tomorrow on this contempt. We have
a whole other thing going. Bosberg's got a contempt hearing
going about. You know, Bosberg's trying to step in and

(30:10):
be commander in chief.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
I don't know how Boseburg can think that his case
is going to survive after the Chief Justice just just
did this administrative stay and a case that the facts
and the law are a lot worse for the Trump
administration on this one than the trend de arragua that
Boseburg tried to stop.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
So I.

Speaker 11 (30:33):
Hope that the Supreme Court is coming to its senses.
I hope the Supreme Court is stopping these judicial saboteurs.
I hope the Supreme Court understands that if Boseburg is
able to hold trumpet administration officials in contempt for not
turning around planes full of terrorists and bringing them back
to the United States. After this, Boseburg, the clown, exposed

(30:58):
dangerously exposed this ongoing military operations four saturdays ago, when
he wasn't even the emergency judge that weekend. He took
this upon himself to open up his courtroom, expose this
ongoing military operation where the President is working with the
Salvadorian president with a very sensitive military operation to get

(31:18):
over two hundred of the Western hemisphere's worst terrorist the
hell out of America. And Boseburg thinks he can expose that.
Boseburg thinks he can order planes to turn around. Boseburg
did not know the fuel levels. Boseburg did not know
the security footprint in America. We saw the security footprint
in El Salvador. Why the hell would we have had

(31:39):
that same security footprint in America Because who would have
imagined that some whack job DC activist judge thinks he
can order planes to turn around. So I hope that
this is the chief finally getting his judicial house in order,
because if Boseburg holds Trump administration officials and contempts, good luck,

(31:59):
Good luck Jeb Boseburg enforcing your contempt order, because I
just I don't see it happening.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, all day long. This morning, there's been a huge
buzz because Jonathan Carl broke it this morning on Stephanopholis
on Good Morning America that prominent conservative people in the
judicial side of the conservative movement came to Jonathan Carl
and said, they're preparing lawsuits right now to go into
court and to shut down President Trump's reordering of the

(32:30):
global trade arrangements between countries. Your thoughts on this. This
is once again every action that President Trump was trying
to take as chief executive officer of the US government
or commander in chief of national security purposes is being
thwarted by these courts. What do you think about this one,
because I hear they may be as close as tomorrow

(32:51):
to be ready to file.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
I think that these activist judges and these activist plaintiffs
are election deniers because President Trump campaigned on the facts
that he's going to hire Elon Musk, he's going to
set up the Department of Government Efficiency, he's going to
secure our border. He's going to deport illegal immigrants, particularly
foreign terrorists. He's going to impose tariffs on foreign countries

(33:15):
to rebalance our trade that's been so out of whack
for decades. And President Trump's doing it exactly what he
promised American voters he would do, and he got a
broad electoral mandate to do it, three hundred and twelve
electoral votes all seven swing states, The popular votes. He
has the legal authority to do this, both under Article
two of the Constitution and his statutory authority. And I

(33:37):
would say this, if you don't want the president to
have so much power, maybe you should not give the
executive branch so much power. Maybe you should follow the
Constitution and have the executive branch with its specific enumerate
it and divide it powers. And what's not specifically spelled
out in the Constitution belongs to the states the people.

(34:00):
But this idea that you're going to delegate to the
executive branch all of this power but the president doesn't
get to oversee that executive branch, that we have unelected
bureaucrats who are supposed to run the executive branch despite
what the president wants. That's the very definition of a
deep state.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Mike. I've talked to a number of Congressmen. They're sitting
there going they think it's time for hearings, particularly Burrow
Howe and Bosebort on these very topics. They're not saying
start impeachments. They're saying, but they are to come in
at least for kind of public I guess depositions, or
at least hearings by Judiciary. I don't know if there's
any momentum over there, movement over there. We've told the audience, hey,

(34:39):
make sure you're doing your home title lock because you've
got to have you on the ramparts. What is Article
three calling for right now? Because I know the audience
wants it, I know the MAGA base wants it. I
know there's many many Congressmen that think it should happen.
I certainly know that people in the Trump administration want
it and want it to happen right away. Where do
we stand with all this? You're kind of the go
to in this. Where do we stand?

Speaker 11 (35:01):
I'm working very closely with Senator John Thune's office, the
Senate Majority Leader leader, along with Senator Chuck Grassley's office,
the Senate Judiciary Chairman, Senator Mike Lee, along with members
of the House. We are working on legislation right now,
various pieces of legislation to hold these activist judges accountable

(35:24):
for their unlawful temporary restraining orders that aren't temporary. At
least the Supreme Court finally fixed that problem yesterday or Friday.
Excuse me, we're Justice. Amy Cony Barrett switched sides from
her position she took several weeks ago that unleashed this
judicial sabotage. I said before that she's a rattle ball

(35:47):
professor with their head up rass. Well, at least on Friday,
she got her head out of her ass and she
finally understands that just because these judges called a temporary
restraining order, that does mean it's temporary. When you're sending
two billion dollars out the door, that's not temporary. It's
not coming back. And so it sounds like she's back

(36:07):
in line. What I've been calling on the War room
posse to do is to go to Article three projects
dot org. And I've never called on this before, but
I jud what Judge Jeb Boseburg, this activist Obama judge
and DC as doing is so unlawful and so dangerous
for him to expose and sabotage an ongoing military operation.

(36:30):
I've never called this before.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
For this to app.

Speaker 11 (36:32):
Before, I think the Trump administration had a constitutional duty
to ignore those orders to turn around the planes. And
I also think the House of Representatives must open an
impeachment inquiry on Boseburg because if he's sitting through an
impeachment inquiry he's not going to have time to moonlight
on the as the next commander in chief.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 11 (36:51):
Saturday, he decides to go open his courtroom and expose
an ongoing military operation.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And as you called from day one, the this is important.
People need to go to Article three today and you've
got a script there too about the impeachment. You know,
even go by the hearing or even more important than
legislation right now is that he's going down the path
of contempt. He intends to basically chop block the Trump administration.

(37:20):
It's what they wanted to do at midnight tonight, if
if Roberts hadn't stepped in, if they didn't comply by midnight,
this is all they were taught. They were lathered up
all day. Oh, it's going to be contempt. The question
now is going to be civil or is it going
to be criminal. They're trying to go down It shouldn't
be lost. And this is the reason I went to
prison was contempt. This is the weapon they tempt they
try to use. Correct and Boseberg very specifically trying to

(37:42):
use it with Trump on the commander in chief issue.
This is why we have to take action now. Correct.

Speaker 11 (37:48):
Yeah, he's a judge, Bosburg is acting lawlessly and dangerously.
He has no need to know anything about these flights.
He has no jurisdiction. This is at best a habeas
case where those prisoners can file a habeas petition in
Texas from where those planes took off. Jeff Boseburg does

(38:09):
not have the jurisdiction, does not have the power to
be in this case at all. He definitely does not
have the power to order the president to turn around
planes during an ongoing military operation. Think about how dangerous
that is. Think about how dangerous this precedent is. Where
a judge can expose and sabotage an ongoing military operation,

(38:31):
tell the president to turn around planes with two hundred
plus of the worst terrorists in the Western Hemisphere, and
then the judge land that The president lands the planes,
thank God. And this judge thinks he's going to hold
people in contempt. Hees trying to figure out how his
order was ignored. Hey, Jeff, you know why your order

(38:52):
was ignored because it was completely lawless and really dangerous.
Right did you know the fuel levels of these planes?
Did you know if there was a security footprint back
in America to take two hundred of the worst terrorists.
Did you want to undermine the president's ability to conduct
foreign affairs? If you're going to embarrass a foreign leader
after he has several hundreds of his law enforcement, military,

(39:15):
and intel officials waiting for these terrorists and this high
stakes operation, and you're going to embarrass that foreign leader,
so they don't want to do business with the president
going forward. Hey, Jeb, go to hell, buddy.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Big victory on Friday, Another big victory today. But we
need to get this done. On Bosberg, where do people go,
Mike on Article three? Where they go? Where they do?

Speaker 11 (39:38):
Article threeproject dot org Article number three. Project dot org donates,
but only as much as you can afford.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Follow us on social media.

Speaker 11 (39:46):
And the action item right now is let's impeach Jeb
Bosberg's ass. Let's haul him in. Let's make the process
the punishment. If he thinks he's going to take off
his judicial robe and climb into the political arena and
throw political punches. The Article three Project is very happy
to throw political counterpunchets.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Mike Davis, you're so also your Twitter feed it gets
a little hot late at night. Where do people go?

Speaker 11 (40:11):
M R D D M I a my initials in
Des Moines Island.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Thank you Steve, thank you Mike Davis, and thank you
for leading the fight. Remember, the courts is where they
think they've got the advantage right now, including on this
trade situation. And these are conservative groups. What we hear
from Jonathan Carl at ABC News is that some big
conservative groups are going to take President Trump to court

(40:36):
to try to thwart his efforts to reorganize the world's
trading system so the American workers benefit in the United
States of America. Short commercial break back in the warm
in just a moment for the world of the Hot
kom we will break to the hot cod were originally
swin it. Let's stick down.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Confuse your host, Stephen k Back.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
One of the best people we ever had come on
the show. Now join us in. Rosemary Gibson, Rosemary, you
put a book out in and for those of you
that have come to the show in the last couple
of years. Back in the early days of the pandemic,
Rosemary Gibson shocked America by coming on war and pandemic
at the time and saying, hey, got a heads up
for you folks. Most of the supply chains on so

(41:29):
many important areas are really controlled by the Chinese companies
party and they've done this just not to make money,
but also strategically. One of them is in generic drugs
and active farm pharmaceutical ingredients. She published a book that
was suppressed by Big Farmer came out in twenty eighteen
I think, called China RX. That was one of the
most you know it is an Ira was a turbo

(41:53):
type ex Bose or Sinclair Lewis from back from back
in the nineteen twenties and thirties. This was a blockbuster
people about how China had done this and making money
off it but also using it strategically. It is the
reason we talk about the JAS medical guys. They eventually
built a business around it. Now this fight about supply chains,

(42:15):
because this is one of the things we're talking about.
The company guys come and talk to the press and say, hey,
look we're gonna build the factors, we're gonna put money in,
but we also had to bring the whole ecosystem back
with us, including the supply chains. This is going to
take a while because the CCP has done this strategically.
First off, where do we stand with the generics Because
you've been working in with President Trump and others who
try to solve this problem which appears to be unsolvable.

(42:38):
But also you have another massive expos ma'am, in your
investigations into this area. You've got another blockbuster for us.
So the floor is yours. Rosemary Gibson, welcome back into
the war room.

Speaker 12 (42:50):
And Steve, it's great to see you. Thanks so much
for airing this issue.

Speaker 13 (42:54):
Yeah, China Orex exposed how dependent we are as a country,
so on that most of them metas that Americans take, Steve,
each one depends on China for at least one component,
and China knows exactly what our pain points are, so
I can imagine we might see some disruption in our

(43:14):
medicine supply chain in terms of the the starting materials.
And it's just like the rare earths China controls. The
upstream has all on the global supply, so we could
expect to see some real challenges with that. But I
think the real news here what's doing today, Steve, is
that it's not just that we've lost jobs and lost

(43:37):
our industrial base. We've had our trading partners dump substandard
drugs into the United States. These are not the illegal ones.
These are the ones in the legal supply chain. And
this has been known for a while. And the good
news is we had some tremendous leadership from the Department
of Defense and they started an ERIC drug testing program

(44:01):
in November twenty twenty three.

Speaker 12 (44:04):
They realize the importance of this.

Speaker 13 (44:05):
They have to protect their war fighters, their family members
and retirees and veterans. And so some of the results
are just beginning to come out. Steeven their blockbuster. They're
finding after just testing the first few drugs, and some
of these are in the top ten of what Americans take.
That thirteen percent of them have manufacturing defects. They have

(44:29):
parcynogens in them, led arsenic, and some of them don't
work as they should because they're not manufactured properly. If
you ask any manufacturer with a product with thirteen percent
manufacturing defects, that is off the charts.

Speaker 12 (44:45):
You know.

Speaker 13 (44:45):
People get their lives on these things, and some of
these products are really life savers. And I stay tuned
because there could be some things coming down the pike
showing that Americans are not doing too well in some
of these.

Speaker 12 (44:58):
So we have to fix it and fix fast.

Speaker 13 (45:00):
And the other key thing is that the Department of
Defense stocks the White House pharmacy and I'm sure it
must stock the crash cards. And so first priority one
O one is to expand this testing. And by the way,
we have to brief the new senior leadership in DD
because this was started under the.

Speaker 12 (45:19):
Prior leadership and I give them a lot of credit
for this.

Speaker 13 (45:22):
We have to brief the new leadership team and DoD
and they have to expand this testing. And these test results,
you know, they can be used by hospitals all over
the US because they're all the same what's used in
the White House and elsewhere basic drugs and hospitals around
the country.

Speaker 12 (45:37):
We have to start testing.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Hang on, Rosemary, hang on, before my head blows up.
I'm a simple man. Let's go back to the beginning.
These generic drugs, well, hang on the I know China's
got a reputation making some shoddy product, but I thought
that since they do the generics and put in they
make the increase for other drugs once they come into

(46:00):
Once to get into the United States, don't you have
to go through some sort of I don't know if
it's FDA or who does it, but is it somebody
besides customs and border. Don't these have to be inspected
to make sure that they're the quality they say so
in the package, and so you don't get oursenake or
led or whatever else you said was in there. Isn't

(46:20):
there already a testing apparatus that just says, okay, dispatch
is not good and it's got to go back and
we find the company or we tell the company you
no longer can make drugs and products that come into
the United States.

Speaker 13 (46:32):
Ma'am, Steve, we have, in a fay facto two regulatory systems.
We have one for US firms and European firms that
are professional, trustworthy companies and trustworthy countries.

Speaker 12 (46:46):
And then we have in the case of China.

Speaker 13 (46:48):
And by the way, these manufacturing defects are in products
coming from multiple countries. But the India, it was just
an issue with South Africa where they didn't have sanative.

Speaker 12 (47:00):
Facilities.

Speaker 13 (47:00):
They had an outside door left open letting all sorts
of air come in.

Speaker 12 (47:03):
Was supposed to be a sterile facility. We have billions
and billions of.

Speaker 13 (47:07):
Pills coming in every day, Steve, and it's an impossible
task for one federal agency to do that.

Speaker 12 (47:14):
But with regard to China.

Speaker 13 (47:16):
In a nutshell, China has no respect for our law
and our regulations when it comes.

Speaker 12 (47:25):
To the FDA.

Speaker 13 (47:27):
It was really shocking to see the former FDA commissioner
two years ago in March twenty twenty three till Congress
that China was blocking FDA inspectors from traveling to that
in country because they inspect the fabilities.

Speaker 12 (47:40):
It was blocking them. Not transparent, big problem.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Hey, hey, rosewie Hanger, for one second, I'm gonna hold
you through to the six o'clock hour, a blockbuster report
as only Roseberry Gibson can give. I'm going to have
to drill down on this some more. It sounds like
the drugs coming in to the country from China are
not properly inspected, and where they are inspected, they're found

(48:06):
Wanting now, who would ever think that the Chinese Communist
Party would be part of some sort of system that
sent defective goods to the United States of America, including
the White House? Who to thunk it? And to our military?
Short commercial break, leave you with the right stuff, Rosemary
Gibson on the other side, and we're going to talk

(48:28):
about net and Yahoo's visit. Kind of a surprise, I
think to him about how advanced the discussions are with
the Americans and the Persians, direct discussions, negotiations. Sounds like
also some blockbuster news on artificial intelligence all next hour
in the war room.
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