April 10, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, APRIL 10TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I actually believe some of these deals going forward on
the rest of Prossy. Eric, don't be surprised if if
three months from now, four months from now, five you
see Scott Bessen come up with the proposal that maybe, hey,
part of the way to close this trade gap is
maybe you take a different type of security. This maybe
got some longevity to it. I think folks have to
understand in the overall trade President Trump is a deal maker.
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They're gonna look at a lot of different things with China.
I don't I think it's beyond a trade deal. Pete
Heggs and your buddy is down in Panama signing an
m ou We're sending army grangers down there to do exercises,
and he says, hey, we're gonna if anything comes up,
we're gonna take the We're gonna take We're gonna seize
actual the locks in the canal.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's you know, Pete Heggs is.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Not a guy that throws out things like that, right,
So game.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
On, don't fool yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That timing of that is perfectly placed.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now that is where they're playing three D chest with
the world. Steve, your show brother, looking forward to watching
that Thank you, Eric, Thank you so much. Love doing
the handoff.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, we've got an incredible lot, so much happened to
day since the morning show. We're going to do another
great cold open. Let's hit it and then we'll take
it from there.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Well, mister President, one of the most important things I
believe that you'll achieve in your presidency is re ordering
the world in a proper way. For thirty one years,
more than thirty one years now, multiple administrations have allowed
the Chinese to de industrialize this country, to take away
jobs and factories and pillars of our national strength. And
what you're doing now, I think is a great service
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to our country but ultimately to the world, and I
want to congratulate you on your team that's working on that,
because as extraordinary geopolitical implications as you see from all
these other countries that are now coming here and wanting
to join something that actually makes just this is crazy
to allow these I mean, basically, we lived in a
world where country Chinese company can do whatever they want
in America, but our companies cannot do anything over there
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unless they allow it, and even then they steal our
stuff and reverse engineer it. So just reordering all of
that as dramatic implications on pace security of the world.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So we thank you for two.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The one is out of the ratio.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
We're a pndem Bob, and I think as we have
to talk.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
About as we go through the queue, and so with
these countries, we're going to bring us their best offer.
We will end up. And they played some great certainty
over the next ninety days on tariffs. But we had
very good inflation numbers today. Oil family had a successful
bond market, so I don't see anything unusual today.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
What are you planning on using the money as you're
geting rather through the TARISA, paying down national debt, reducing taxes,
creating good budgets, helping Christy with the border, and all
of the other things we built.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
We're trying to retaliate today by reducing the number of
American films that can.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Be shown there.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
What's your reaction to them now targeting cultural experts from
the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think I've heard of worse thing.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
For the White House said goods from China would be
subject to a one hundred and forty five percent terrifyrate.
That's higher than what Trump had said Wednesday yesterday when
he said that that rate would be one hundred and
twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
What do you think they're going to do at this
point in this big theoretical continue to build.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's why I was an advocate for why are we
messing around?
Speaker 10 (03:27):
Just go to four hundred percent, Get everybody on a plane,
let's meet it a gcombo wherever that look, what are
you going to do twenty five percent every day until
your four hundred? Just go to four hundred and then
it becomes impossible for them to access the American market,
which is thirty nine percent of all consumption in the
world and twenty six point one percent of the world's GDP.
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China cannot do without America, period. And the reason that
she would care about this and the laser focused on it.
He only gets to be the supreme leader in perpetuity
while people are employed and eating and feeding and making
sure their families are taken care of. If it's mass
closures of factories, he's screwed. So he knows that too.
(04:08):
And right now, as Stuart Varney detailed and others know this,
it's precarious situation over in China on their currency and
a lot of other issues. As you measure their economy
and their GDP growth. Now, look, I want to be
clear about this. I have no problem with the Chinese people,
and I, along with millions of other investors, want to
do business in China.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I've had it with getting screwed on IP.
Speaker 10 (04:32):
I've done, and I want someone to go in there
and level the playing field. That's what I want and
what I will take ability and signed a.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Couple of historic fields, one which is with the Panama
Canal Authority a framework for US vessels first and free.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Through the Panama Canal.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
And then also a memorandum of understanding with their Security
Minister for the presidence of US troops for Sherman and
a US space there, as well as a legal station
and air station jointly with Panama to secure the Panama Canal.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
From Chinese influence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's something you said. We're taking back the canal.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
China's had too much influence Obama and others let them
creep in.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We along with Panama are pushy amounts.
Speaker 11 (05:18):
US forces in Panama. We'll go with controversial history. But
what do you think might be required of the US
military under this deal?
Speaker 12 (05:27):
I think that's a question for the Secretary of Defense
and the President that hasn't been answered. We've seen this
a lot where they spike the ball and they don't
offer the details around what's going to be required, especially
in the US forces. Look, it's better than an invasion, right,
I mean, the tough talk they've been having lately around
Panama and others makes everybody scared of an actual military conflict.
So this seems to be a de ratcheting or a
de escalation at least of the rhetoric.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And maybe we can move toward a deal that helps.
Speaker 12 (05:50):
American interests and brings a focus back on China, which
is what Trump and Hegseth have been doing this week,
which is a lot more popular politically. It's a lot
more intelligence strategically, rather than kind of spraying and praying
across the globe, they're now focusing on China economically and militarily,
which I think is the right place to focus if
you're talking about the next fifty years or so and
who's going to be our adversary. But the devil's in
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the details here, and it's often a show with big
talk and not a lot of details, and that's what
we need right now.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
I want to ask you, what is the future of
this budget blueprint that was adopted today, What are the
next steps?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Do we know where it's going?
Speaker 13 (06:24):
What's a long process still, Christina, And there could be
many pitfalls that Congressional Republicans face along the way. They
basically just have an outline, a sketch right now of
what their goals are on spending and the cuts that
they'd like to make, but even those are not necessarily
those targets that they hope to ultimately hit. Republicans in
both the House and Senate would like to make cuts
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in the range of one point five to two trillion dollars,
which is not what it specifically spells out. And this
budget resolution that they passed here today, but the Speaker
of the House the Senate majority leader have essentially given
a pinky swear to these House Republicans in particular that
want to see those steep cuts that when the final
reconciliation package comes to bear, that those cuts will exist.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Now, that's not going to be easy.
Speaker 13 (07:09):
Because they also have to pass what they're hoping would
be a four point five trillion dollar extension of.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
The Trump tax cuts.
Speaker 13 (07:15):
They promised that they're not going to touch the benefits
to entitlement programs like Medicaid. It's really hard to make
that math work and do so in a way that
doesn't blow a huge hole in the deficit. So there's
a lot of work that needs to be done here.
They got over this step, but many House Republicans are
already saying that they were willing to do this because
it's not final and not binding. But when the actual
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final product comes to bear, they want to see those
steep cuts, and if they don't, there'll be a no vote.
So the Speaker and the President both of a lot
of work still to do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Christina, Yeah, when.
Speaker 11 (07:49):
It comes to cutting without touching those entitlements, the math
isn't really mathing. As the kids would say, this.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. You're not going to free shot all these
networks lying about the people.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go? To share the
big line mega media.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
War use your host Stephen gave Maas.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's Thursday, ten April, on the ear of our Lord,
twenty twenty five. Just incredibly explosive day all around the
capitol in the world for news and things that are
vitally important. Recommendation I want to make, and there's so
much going on, is that citizens free press. You have
this extraordinary individual, Kine. He's a lot like Andrew Breitbard,
(09:11):
even Drudging in.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
The old days.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Remember Andrew came up by being the editor, one of
the editors, or actually the only wingman Drudge had for
many many years. Those guys who work, you know, twelve on,
twelve off all the time, seven days a week, never
left the page alone.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Kine.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Were very blessed to have someone like Kane, who is
a just a news hound and what I call a
gym rat. And this is how we recruit people at
the war room. Those are the people that want to
get up on the Saturday morning and sweep the gym
and be doing you know, free throws at seven o'clock
in the morning. You can't get him out of the gym.
They just love it. They love the game, they love
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what they do. It's so important, I think, to go
to Citizens Free Press throughout the day because they're continually
putting up great headlines and really framing narratives. And two
that he's particularly on and that Kane I think from
his years doing this has become kind of an expert there.
It is right there if you see it, if you're
listening to the podcast. This is why you got to
(10:07):
get the command brief, You got to get the videos
because you've got to I know, we have tons of
podcast audience that listen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is one of the reason you got to get.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We got Citizens Free Press up there right now, and
it really summarizes the day. Number One, this situation with China.
This is not about reciprocity. This is not even about tariffs.
That's all part of it. This is the world's two
great powers. One power that was totally created by the
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elites in the United States. That's the China, the Great civilization,
but I mean destroyed by the Chinese Commiest Party, and
they worked in conjunction with the Chinese Comedies Party. Our elites,
financial elites, political elites worked, business elites, worked with the
Chinese Commiest Party to basically take it from a kind
of a backwards agricultural power to a manufacturing super power
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on your tax dollars and your pension funds that ship
those jobs over there. And President Trump's now said, hey,
we got a problem. We've got to reindustrialize. We have
to become an industrial power to retain our greatness. We
have to have manufacturing jobs that families can build real
lives around, right, not just these service jobs that are
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you know, are never around up and down, have no
stability to it, have no true competitive advantage over time.
So in his efforts to reindustrialize this country, eventually you're
going to have to get to the hard and of
the problem in China and the Chinese Campanist Party, the
Chinese people are fantastic. Lau by Jing, I'm very honored
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to head up be one of the co founders of
New Federal State of China.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's one of these alternative groups that look to work.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
With lauby Jing to freedom selves by work with many
many others as being one of the proudly one of
the leaders of the anti CCP organizations throughout the world.
Because there are murderous dictators ship every bed, every bit
as bad as the Bolsheviks under Stalin and the Nazis
under Hitler. They're just a brutal dictatorship. We're in it
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now and that's why I think. You know, when people
talk about, hey, we want a meeting with them, there's
no one meeting.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He's going to solve the problem. What's here?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
First off, as Natalie has shown you over years to
investigator Port, there is so embedded into the cultural life,
into the universities. There's three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese
students right here paying full freight. What do you think
would happen to the university system if we tell them
to leave tomorrow, which we should do. The university system
has tapped off this the national labs of weapons labs
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Chinese nationals all throughout that Biden allowed tens of thousands
of military age men of Chinese men into the country
right now. One of the lead stories up on Citizens
Free Press the Wall Street Jones breaking it, the Biden
administration was told to their face last year in Geneva,
that all these cyber hacks actually the infrastructure. Remember when
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Chris Ray did the sixty minutes, it was so shocking
to the country, and he says, yeah, the number one
problem we have is China, the CCP OH and what
they have done. They're embedded in all of our infrastructure.
I mean the elluctrial grid, the communication systems, the highway systems,
the transportation logistics systems.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
They're embedded, either through software or other means.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And when the flag goes up, when the balloon goes up,
they will use that infrastructure to cripple us. We've been asleep.
We've been asleep for a long time. I know the
war and Posse hasn't. You're the army of the awaken.
And folks in this country have said, hey, I don't
like what's happening. I see too many business guys rubbing
up on the Chinese. Remember when she came to San
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Francisco and all the elites in New York City flew
out there, you know, the Council on Farm Relations, the
Acious Society, and all the big tech bros. Remember they
were slobbergn all over she Remember that that's who their
allegiance is too. We're in it, folks. There's no when
meeting to talk about reciprocity. This is global, it's multi dimensional,
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and one side is going to win and one side
is going to lose. We've got tremendous leverage here. We
have tremendous power in this. We have to smartly use
that power and kind of bring this to a head.
I've argued for years decoupling. We have to we can't
be a part of a system that they're part of
an economic system because why there's systems based upon slave labor.
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They're always going to drive and crush wages always because L'aubaijing, unfortunately,
are slaves to a murderous dictatorship. Short commercial break and
tell the flip side of this. So tain's got up
on citizens free press. We've got to stop kidding ourselves
about federal spending.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
The games have to stop. Next in the world.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
America.
Speaker 14 (15:00):
So the House today also proved the Save Act, the
bill requiring proof of citizenship for voter registrations. The President
signed a similar executive order last month. That executive order
has been challenged legally, but this is a bill now
that has been passed by the House.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's going to go out of the Senate.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
How do you feel that on that Yeah, you know,
there's that saying when this is a solution in.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Search of a problem.
Speaker 15 (15:24):
This is a classic example of the Save Act of
what Republicans are doing is once again demonizing immigrants for
the sake of making it harder for eligible citizens to
register to vote and to cast their bouts in elections.
It's voter suppression in disguise, not so much of a disguise.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 15 (15:42):
It is already illegal for non citizens to vote in
our elections, even the very.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, I get Benzman up because so much going on
on the border. Before I bring Tina, I just want
to go one more time back to citizens street press
now more than ever because since drug's gone off the
reservation years ago, Cain keeps a running they call it
the stack, and he's always breaking news. And this guy
does not sleep. But like right up at the top,
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every now and again, Kane plays it pretty straight.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And you can tell.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
By the way if you if you spend enough time there,
you can tell when he's framing a message or he's
framing a narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But every now and.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Again, he will. He will actually give editorial commentary. And
I keep telling people when Kane does that, it's kind
of like a papal bull.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You should you should pay attention, and you should you
should read.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's like when Trump says no games right there, Mike
Johnson makes blood oath to cut one point five train
and spending, except it's over ten years of just one
hundred and fifty billion deficits.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think Kine is right. That's what we're trying to
get in back of.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And I think it's one of the reasons Philip Patrick's
gonna be in the bottom of the hour. Gold's now spiked,
the ten year treasury is not doing that great. I
think people see the potential for inflation coming back because listen,
at the end of the day, President Trump's doing amazing stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Commodity prices are dropping.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He's going full spectrum energy dominance in every vertical he
can to ring out inflation, He's doing it. The one
that to me is the most important is you're still
giving this massive canes in stimulus unless I can't do
the math right, and I think I can. I just
see the deficits of two trallion dollars a year that
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one point five trade I think is over ten years.
And remember we've gone through this exercise before. This is
the reason Macarthy got turfed out. Remember the time they
came back and said, we have so many conservative wins,
we got so many conservative wins, we've got cuts that
go you have nothing. First off, all these cuts are
ephemeral that all take place in the out year, so
they never happen. The only thing that happens is an
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appropriation bill that take place in that year. And that's
going to give me to Elon Musk in a moment.
I'm gonna play that live because a bombshell was dropped
in that incredible cabinet meeting President Trump, basically a cabinet
meeting with the cameras there, which is extraordinary. But Elin
talked about the waste for an abuci found. But I
want to save that to after Todd Bensman. So, Todd,
the Save Act. They already hate that. You've got an
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incredible article up up on Daily Wire of what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The Save Act now makes it official for federal you
can't you got to have a voter ID. You can't,
you can't register unless you've got a real id. There's
no more possibility we'll let foreign nationals vote in our elections.
On the other side, have we really started to criminalize it?
That is real that coming across the border you're going
to get thrown into jail first and then ship back.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You're just not going to be loud in the country.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because I saw President Trump on your famous app, you know,
I think it was yesterday, he said, Hey, everybody came
on the app since nineteen seventy three has got to
go back immediately. Todd Bensman, Yeah, I just came back
from Del Rio Federal Court down there. I was in
the courtroom for three days watching them bring bus loads
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of apprehended illegals into the court on charges of improper
entry thirteen to twenty five of Section eight of the
i NA, and then a whole other courtroom full of
you know, they brought in twenty seven on the next
rung up thirteen twenty six.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
These are federal charges. They are widespread. I have this
from you know, the highest, best possible source.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
This is part of a.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Coast to coasts, border to border, north to south initiative
by the Trump administration to send illegal aliens that they
apprehend anywhere into federal prosecution. Now, the first timers might
get thirty days or sixty days or up to six months,
not that big of a deal, but that's only half
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the story. The trick is that when we deport them
every time after they're out of jail, and if they
come back then they face two years, ten years, and
even twenty years, depending on how many times they've come
back and whether they've got other criminal non immigrant criminal history.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And you know, the.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Impact of thousands and thousands of these really has, you know,
is reverberating all over the you know, Latin America and
all over the world. We don't want to end up
in prison now when we cross. So that's a significant
I don't think I think it's got a lot of
it's been undercovered quite a bit, but I went down
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to actually see this thing, and it's very impactful. Something
to keep in mind. One other thing about that is,
you know, anybody who's getting antsy and impatient about Tom
Homan's mass deportations should just delay their gratification a little bit,
because we have to wait until these people serve their
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time before we can add them to the deportation roles.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But there's going to be thousands of them.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
It's ramping up that program, and it's a good program
because it's got.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Sharp shark seeth in it.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
You know, ten twenty years in prison the next time
you come back.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So let me get right when you say the ten
or twenty years, they catch them. Now you get sent
back right away. If you come back, the penalties have
actually been raised. You're going to spend real time in prison.
So that'll be a massive that'll be a massive way
to tell people you don't want to do this.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
A deterrent. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yes, that's the way it works.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
They if you get if you're a first time offender,
it's a thirteen to twenty five charge misdemeanor, federal misdemeanor.
There also can be a felony charge on thirteen twenty
five as well.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
That comes with two years.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Most of that six months are under and these guys
are like, oh whatever, you know, free room and board
for a few months, but not if they come back
and those thirteen twenty six is are getting multiple years
in prison. I talked to judges, I talked to criminal
defense attorneys while I was down there in Del Rio,
in the courtroom and they're like, yeah, I've seen guys
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get ten years in prison for returning. Now it gets
even worse if they have criminal history on them where
you know they did an assault or a felony, you know,
some kind of rape or whatever while they were here,
then you're looking at serious prison time. This is a
really important tool because you've got detention and deportation, expedited removal.
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We all know about that, but you know when they
come back over and over and over, you always hear
about these repeat offenders.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
This is the way you reduce the chances of a
resurgence of mass migration by putting a big sledge hammer
in the air over them or sort of domoicles over
them for returning. So this thing is spreading all over
the country. This is a big program.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
One of the things I think people are getting antsy.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's not that they've only seen Homan or the Secretary
of DHS no on these raids and doing these raids
and talking about putting bad guys and putting guys on planes,
and we're fighting in courts. The concern it gets to
be in this new reconciliation budget. It's the one big
beautiful bill now has the deportation's part, and it's one
hundred and seventy five billion dollars. So number one, that
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is a massive amount of money. But two, people want
to know. They see what happened on the app and
now there's nine or thirty thousand people, When are we
going to actually get to the mass deportation side? Are
we going to have to wait for one hundred and
seventy billion to be spent? Then you're talking to years.
I think people are getting antsy because they realized the
criminals that came across. Yes, there's a there's lots of those,
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and they have to be dealt with, and it looks
like Homan and Christy Noman others are dealing with it.
But the mass deportation part, starting with the app, the
nine seventy three or whatever that number was, when is
that going to kick in and people start, you know,
we started getting these guys out of here and start
getting off the back monetarily and financially and business wise
off of African Americans and Hispanic citizens so they don't
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have to keep compete with these folks for jobs.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean, I've been telling the Posse for quite
a while now that you know, you've got to be
patient because the Biden administration dismantled the machine, the deportation
and detention machine, literally dismantled it. For example, they closed
all the every family detention center in the United States
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was shuttered. I drove past one last week Dilley in Dilley,
Texas and tried to get up there, and they're under
construction now, so it's still not open. They're going to
have to put open centers in the interior of the
country to put people while they're waiting for a bus
or a plane to fill up to come and get them.
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And also, you know, there are other programs that are
in play. For example, you know they want to put
a registration. If you don't register your presence here and
we catch you, that's going to be a charge on
you unless you self deport They're creating some of those
kind of programs to incentivize self deportation, which I think
will help. But remember the engineers of this thing, the
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architects of the mass migration crisis, which was done fully,
completely on purpose for four years straight. There was no
accident here. They did it on purpose with lawyers, you know,
constructing the whole thing carefully is designed to be a
one way road in, one way road in because everybody
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knows that it's difficult then to legally remove people. There
are processes, legal processes to make up to open.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Up the way going the other way. They knew that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Hang on, I'm gonna hold you because I've got to
get to the bottom of this. Philip Patrick's also going
to join us. Gold's on fire today. We're going to
talk about why capital markets Julie Kelly is going to
be worth us. We're going to break down, Julie everything
on the legal side, particularly trying to trap President Trump
with these folks in the contempt charge.
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Speaker 5 (27:00):
Host, Stephen Kat.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, So I'm gonna have to move some things around
because we have so much to go through the day.
But I got to get that this is bugging me.
No in.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
How do I say this?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Let me say this in a way that doesn't hurt feelings.
But you know, I've seen our Attorney general and we
love her, but she's on a fox a lot and
Cash is grinding. I actually am glad they took atf
and gave her the Army answry it maybe like Cash
is fired. Cash is not fired. This job he and
Dan Bongina have the FBI is huge. However, folks, I
(27:41):
want this to burn into you. I want to rub
some salt in the wound here because we've got to
get this rolling, and I commit to you we'll get
it rolling. But we are now talking about a budget
that is going to be bigger than six and a
half trillion dollars. And one of the reasons is they're
going to ask for one hundred and fifty billion dollars
more defense money than the nine hundred billion on the
(28:03):
Defense Authorization. So it's going to put US over trillion dollars,
which to me is ob seen. And I say that
as a hawk. Number two, there's one hundred and seventy
billion dollars to have a deportation system that was purposely
taken apart by the Biden regime to allow ten million
(28:23):
people in here, and now we have to pay and
it's going to take as years to get this ready
to get these ten million people out. Now, if that's
not a crime, it's got to be something, and there's
got to be a thorough to your mind, Todd Bensman,
the process of taking it down as they did that
was so systematic because you would come on here for
(28:44):
years and unlike all the other shows you would go
it is not chaos at the border.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
This is very well thought through.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
They're doing this systematically, they're taking a part systematically, they're
inviting people in. This is going to have a long
term impact for the country. In Inducy. You look at
this was probably even higher than inflation. Right, the thing
that got Trump back to office because of one of
his core signature things just like tariffs and trade and
bringing manufacturing jobs back from the first term. To your knowledge, well,
(29:16):
first off, am I wrong? Is this not treason when
you take a part a system that's there to protect
the sovereignty of the country and the sovereignty of our
citizens and take that apart and invite.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The world in. And now we know that it's so hard.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Legally you got to put all this stuff back together again,
and plus physically you have to go recreate the logistics
thing a transport, and even then, it's never been built
to send ten million people back home. If that's not
a crime, or if that's not treason to the nation,
I don't know what is.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Todd Benson, Well, I do believe that there is a
lot of fraud to be uncovered. I will share this
with you during the break. I didn't think of this,
but I was contacted recently by a congressional investigator. I'm
not going to say who or which chamber uh that
(30:08):
has this is a an arm of Congress that has
very powerful subpoena power, asking me what they should do,
who they should subpoena, what they should what they so
so that there are there is interest in uh you know,
fact uh, diving into what actually happened fraud wise.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
UH.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
And you know, my biggest concern I told this person
was you know that that maybe there would be.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Destruction of documents.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
There were going to be people that were involved in
this thing that are gone now, political appointees, people that
served in all of the Agency of d of DHS,
at the State Department, of the Domestic Policy Council. Uh,
maybe the NSC, I don't know. The point is is
that that this was to deliberate, It was careful, it
(31:03):
was well done. Actually, if I'm being honest, grudgingly have
to say how well done this thing was. And there
is room for investigator's demand. There needs to be investigation
into how using.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
But yeah, hang on, I want you to go through
that right now.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But President Trump just signed an executive order yesterday and
Krebs and saying crabs have going around forever is the safest,
it's the safest, most secure ever. And Tulsi Gabbett I
think said to day at the Cabinet meeting, they have
evidence that DN I of actually the Lindale's going to
be up here because he's skipping around lightness here on fire.
Because I'm not a machine guy, right, I think they
(31:43):
stole it with Mayland ballots. However, I've always been opened
the machines are too complicated for what they're sort of
be done, and that always gets you know, that always
has me worried to why they so complicated. Tulsi Gabbratt,
I think, says the day in the cabinet meeting that yeah,
we think we found evidence that we're pursuing evidence of
of the hacking of the machines and crabs. He signs
an executive order to go after Krebs. I mean, do
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we need and maybe help the president frame for the
president's signing an executive order about this that this has
to be investigated. I mean, first of if it's one
hundred and seventy billion dollar tab folks, that usould be
the size of the defense budget a couple a decade
or so ago. I mean, that is a number that
is just shocking to me. And people in this town
are not sitting there going this is the most outrageous
(32:25):
thing I've ever seen. We took a system that wasn't perfect,
but it worked if you enforced it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They systematically took it apart, and knowing.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Exactly what they had to do right then they allowed
ten million people in basically to take low skilled jobs
against African Americans and Hispanics, and also, as we know,
try to get try to gin up new voters, and
then when they're thrown out and the people throw them
out for this topic being like number one, we get
(32:53):
the tab. Oh yeah, it's going to take a few
years because they took it apart so well, it's one
hundred and seventy billion dollars going to take your time.
If we don't hold people accountable for that, that entire thing,
if that doesn't reach treason that you did that and
allowed invaders in here. Trump just said, hey, nine hundred
and seventy three a thousand are here toofore ready to
(33:15):
go back. This thing is maddening, and I don't think
we show the American people we're serious about this. Of
course they're going to sit there and go, hey, you
guys are just part of the swamp.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's just gol to get along.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
This has to be a high priority, not just the
physical removal, but also the process of how it happened
and who's responsible and who's going to be held accountable
and who's going to go to prison. Scarven Mayorkis and
the rest of that crowd that would sit there and
smirk through hearing after hearing, lie and perjure themselves.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Impeachment's not enough.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Todd Bensman, Yeah, I have to agree with just about
everything you said there. I mean, good governance demands accountability
about what happened.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I've written before.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
That we have to have a at the very least
some kind of a commission that I know you don't
like the idea of commissions, but I agree that there
needs to be fact finding about who did what when,
and there needs to be backing a DOJ Department of
Justice backup for the things that they find. For referrals
(34:19):
on the interior of the Biden administration, these are going
to be the political appointing class. I've said this many
times on your show. They did this. They came from
the NGOs, they came from the migrant advocacy industrial complex,
not think tanks. They came from those places, and the
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things that they did benefited their former employees, employers rather
and future employers. So there's a lot to be done
there that I don't think that they've I'm not sure
that it's fully appreciated yet in the administration. How badly
people want justice for what happened and they just justice.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yes, people are furious anyway, I'll talk to you Averts.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We'll get this organized.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I might add, and Liz your in the gang for
forgetting this to me. But to show you how much
the Catholics, the regular people and Catholics hitting the second
collection or something supported the Catholic charities, refugee program and
illegal alien invasion program as soon as the government cut
it off. Todd, didn't they announce the other day that
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after fifty years of doing this, we're out of the business.
As soon as you cut the government tap on, there
wasn't enough money coming from Catholics to support it. They
basically said they're not in that business anymore. This shows
you how corrupt these NGOs are. These NGOs are like
barnacles on a ship. We got to get to the
body these NGOs, and then who supported the NGOs, the
sources and all those guys. They're all part of a
(35:47):
vast criminal conspiracy to have an invasion of the United
States of America, the greatest invasion that's ever happened in
our country. Nothing else even comes close. It came close
to destroying the nation. We have to im we don't.
When the balloon goes up on the CCP, do I
have people in the new Frets, right, I have people
(36:07):
that are Chinese, that are your Chinese citizens and say, hey,
you have no worth the idea.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What's coming across the border during the Biden years.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You're totally exposed to fighting age men, and we know
we got terrorists.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Your book, your book expose.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
How many terrorists are coming across I mean, your two
books back to back were kind of the two guns,
the two gun approach to find out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It just maddens me.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And I know realize people have so much ado, they're
so burdened with what's going on, but this has got
to be a top priority. We got to get an
executive I actually think the President ought to assign a
special counsel in order to report directly to him.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
In the White House. That'll blow up the legal community
and this they.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Are in a panel of grand jury, and they ought
to start going just going, just ripping on this thing.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Todd Bensman, your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Grand jury, good idea, but most definitely and by the way,
one of those border crossers went on to conduct a
terror attack, an actual terror attack in Chicago in October. Mauritanian,
I'll just mention that I've got to I went to
Chicago and reported on that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
But the point is.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
That, yeah, it's not just the NGOs, but it's they're
friends that ran the subcontracting bus company and the food
vendor company, and the hotel brokers that brokeer for the
hotel rooms and the whole thing up and down that
companies that were created out of thin air because oh
my god, we've got to get you know, minibuses on
(37:31):
this down to Del Rio or whatever, and we're going
to pay you. Don't worry about it. Just bill us,
you know that sort of thing. I promise you that
you would find kickbacks, you would find evidence of overcharging,
and you know, contracts, steering and all the usual stuff
(37:51):
whenever you have money kind of volume.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Grace Chung just sends me a federal judge breaking news.
A federal jodge is allowing the Trump administration to move
forward with their requirement that everyone in the United States
illegally must register with the federal government, in a move
that could have far reaching repercussions for immigrants across the nation.
Your thoughts on that, Todd Bensman, that's the head.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yeah, I mentioned that earlier.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
This is a great idea, as a way to create
leverage where none exists. On illegal aliens that are in
the country who don't register. We catch you and you
didn't register, you can you can be fined and or
go to jail. I'm prosecuted for that. And why don't
you just self deport if you don't want to register?
(38:39):
That sort of thing. So, I mean, it's a cudgel,
and they're coming up with more and more out of
the box ideas like that. Remember it's a one way
super highway into the country always, but there is no
way out really except by a narrow country trail. That's
the way the cism is. The people that engineered this
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thing knew that. When they were engineering it, they knew it.
Everybody knows that. Who does this business on immigration?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Todd?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
What is your Where do they get your books, where
they get your writing? Where they get all of it?
Speaker 10 (39:17):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well, while we have you, while we're fortunate enough to
have you.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Uh yeah, I'm on X bensmon Todd at X and
I have an.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Account at getter and truth Social and my website is
toddbinsmrom dot com. I work for the Center for Immigration Studies.
They're the ones that fund all of my trips, you know,
pay my mortgage and that kind of stuff. Great organization
CIS dot org.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They're the best.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Todd, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here.
We'll get to the bottom of this. I kind of
like my special counsel idea. I think we'll play around
with that tonight. Think about it. Got something has to happen,
has to formally happen. We've got to start a process here.
I realized there's so much going on, but you know,
we got we got to get some more laboring Oarzona.
This is a big one because it's not going to
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Speaker 16 (40:59):
Box down, bonds down in price, boil down down, dollar
down hard, Okay. So basically people are turning pretty much
all dollar assets into cash or something owned.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Hey, gold screen gold of course is.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And a turbulent day, and there's gonna be many turbulent days, folks.
One of the reasons we've partnered with Birch Golds four
years ago was we kind of saw this financial turbulence
coming in Biden and what they did with the bouncy
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
It was going to continue.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Even regardless of what President Trump's doing. And he's trying
to write this ship, why is this happening? Why we
have these dal Jones down two thousand points up, three
thousand points down. Tenure Treasury but gold seems to be
on a tear. What's driving that, Sir Philip.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
It's climate's like this, right, it's volativity, it's economic uncertainty,
it's dollar devaluation, all of the above. I mean, we've
talked about these issues for a long long time. It's
all starting to hit ustin of cools. Gold thrives in
those climates. Gold today has officially hit another all time high.
We're at thirty one seventy five, up twenty one percent
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for the year so far. Bank of America now raised
their forecasts again. Gold thirty five hundred by the end
of the year, ubsay forty five hundred by.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Mid next year.
Speaker 17 (42:21):
Look, at the end of the day, we're in the
middle of a geopolitical and economic realignment. The global order
we've known for decades is sort of breaking apart. And
in times like this, individuals, governments, they turn to hard
assets and especially gold. So it's not a surprise to me,
I know it's not a surprise to you. Gold is
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hitting all time highs and it's projected to continue to
do so at least for the shorter medium term.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm going to have one of the specialists that one
of the gentlemen. Now we're in a new federal state
for us and we're doing this big thing on Tenement Square,
the anniversary on for June, and we're putting together speaker.
One thing in our research are showing that the Chinese
Chemist Party as they're talking to people, they now have
come out and they're taking the lead on the dedollarization effort,
one of the weapons. And that's why I say this
(43:12):
is not about terriffs and trade anymore. This is two
different economic systems. One that is benefited from the capital
of the other. That would be the Chinese Cochemist Party.
The understands is being cut off. There's no place they
won't go to take us down. The one effort they're
doing behind the scenes is the dedollarization effort. Are what
we see in here people concerned about that central banks
(43:34):
buying gold. I mean, what is the trend you're seeing
because every day it's not simply the price that's going up,
but it's the amount of activity and back of that price.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Sir.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
Yeah, look at dedollarization has been been a big part
of this.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
They've said for the last three years.
Speaker 17 (43:50):
Central banks have set record year on year on year
for gold buying, and it's in an effort to dedollarize, right, China,
As much as they want to move away from the dollars,
they don't have a better alternative from a currency standpoint,
and they're using gold as a means to dedollarize. And
that's the one big concern. Obviously, there's a big negotiation
(44:11):
going on. And I agree with you. I don't think
this Choina thing is so much about a trade in
balance as much as it is about an existential struggle
with the CCP's authoritarian economic model.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
For years, they've been playing us like cuckuts.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
Right.
Speaker 17 (44:26):
They steal our intellectual property, They subsidize industries and dump
products into the United States. They manipulate their currency to
gain advantage. And I think what Trump is doing now
is saying enough is enough. Right, If you want to
access American markets, you're going to have to do it
on fair terms or not at all. But like you say,
we're in a precarious position. We're carrying more debt now
(44:48):
than has ever been held by any nation in history,
and China are large holders of US debt.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
If they start to dump US debt.
Speaker 17 (44:56):
We're going to see what happens to borrowing rates on
treasuries he spiked quite aggressively. If that continues, that could
create problems domestically. So this is a very tough thing
to navigate. I think President Trump is doing a good job.
I was excited to see the ninety day pause on
the rest of the world's tariffs. I think it's diplomacy
(45:19):
in action, and I think he's trying to create some
togetherness to ultimately deal with the China problem, because ultimately
that's the big problem for us.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
But that's why I say, you go to a citizens repressure,
get both sides of what's happening. You have that, and
that's fully engaged, But then you look at I think
the reason that the tens have been spiking and even
some of the rush to gold is the big, beautiful
built President Trump investment. Both have a theory of the case,
this is your last shot to get a supply side
tax cut and do it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
And I got that they're working at.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
But the spending on this, and that's why it's kind
of gimmicky about how this thing evencame a part. I
think the bond market saying that, and they're a little
a little jiggy on this. And if you look up
in the headlines and saysting for us. It kind of
breaks it down. It's really like one hundred and fifty
billion dollars of spending, which cuts which even those are small,
those never happen. People psychological because I know you get
(46:14):
at three o'clock out west, I want you to bounce.
But people have the psychological and say, hey, I should
have gotten in years ago, and Warren started talking about
it was eleven hundred bucks. I missed it, and get
They get nervous about the highs.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
What is your.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
How do you talk to people when they come in
and you say, hey, it's an all time high and
it's sitting at all time high every couple of days. But
that's not about it being a hedge. It's not about
being a store of value. What's the psychology there? Because
I know a lot of people are spooked that the
price of gold is actually so high.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Listen, the reality is everything is high.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Right.
Speaker 17 (46:46):
Obviously we've seen the markets come down this year from
the highs, but we've been dealing to the last fifties.
Markets are at all time highs, gold at all time highs. Everything,
Your housing markets rare call you know, rare whiskey markets
are one which everything's high, and it's a reflection of
what we've done.
Speaker 14 (47:04):
Right.
Speaker 17 (47:04):
We've had zero interest rates almost for twelve of the
last fifteen years. We pump money through the economy and
what it does is it creates bubbles. What we're starting
to see is those bubbles come undone. But the question
is not what can I buy low and sell high today?
The question then becomes what's more conducive for the climate
in front of us? And that's where I see a
(47:26):
big advantage with medals. Look what President Trump of the
team trying to do is a big, big thing, and
in the process, we're going to see bubbles. Bus We're
going to see global economic instability, and gold in those
climates thrive. Then on top of that you've got depth
and deficits as the overhanging problem. Right, this is where
(47:47):
our dollar could be in trouble longer term. Gold is
the best hedge against that. So I don't fear gold's prices.
There are a flection of the dollar's value, and unless
we can curb spending and deficits, the story is the
limit for gold.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Philip, where do people go? We'll let your bounce make
you three o'clock. Where do people go to get you?
Speaker 17 (48:08):
So very easy, Birch, goold dot com, forward, slash Bannon
or text Bannon to nine eight nine eight nine eight,
whatever you prefer, that'll get them access to End of
the Dollar Empire reports a ton of information on how
and why to invest in gold in today's climate, and
they can reach me directly on geta at Philip Patrick.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Philip Patrick, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Gold at another all time high on the tenth of
April in the.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Euro of our Lord twenty twenty five. The right stuff
takes us up. We are back in the war and
for the second hour, just a moment
I actually believe some of these deals going forward on
the rest of Prossy. Eric, don't be surprised if if
three months from now, four months from now, five you
see Scott Bessen come up with the proposal that maybe, hey,
part of the way to close this trade gap is
maybe you take a different type of security. This maybe
got some longevity to it. I think folks have to
understand in the overall trade President Trump is a deal maker.
(00:22):
They're gonna look at a lot of different things with China.
I don't I think it's beyond a trade deal. Pete
Heggs and your buddy is down in Panama signing an
m ou We're sending army grangers down there to do exercises,
and he says, hey, we're gonna if anything comes up,
we're gonna take the We're gonna take We're gonna seize
actual the locks in the canal.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's you know, Pete Heggs is.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Not a guy that throws out things like that, right,
So game.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
On, don't fool yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That timing of that is perfectly placed.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now that is where they're playing three D chest with
the world. Steve, your show brother, looking forward to watching
that Thank you, Eric, Thank you so much. Love doing
the handoff.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, we've got an incredible lot, so much happened to
day since the morning show. We're going to do another
great cold open. Let's hit it and then we'll take
it from there.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Well, mister President, one of the most important things I
believe that you'll achieve in your presidency is re ordering
the world in a proper way. For thirty one years,
more than thirty one years now, multiple administrations have allowed
the Chinese to de industrialize this country, to take away
jobs and factories and pillars of our national strength. And
what you're doing now, I think is a great service
(01:31):
to our country but ultimately to the world, and I
want to congratulate you on your team that's working on that,
because as extraordinary geopolitical implications as you see from all
these other countries that are now coming here and wanting
to join something that actually makes just this is crazy
to allow these I mean, basically, we lived in a
world where country Chinese company can do whatever they want
in America, but our companies cannot do anything over there
(01:52):
unless they allow it, and even then they steal our
stuff and reverse engineer it. So just reordering all of
that as dramatic implications on pace security of the world.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So we thank you for two.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The one is out of the ratio.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
We're a pndem Bob, and I think as we have
to talk.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
About as we go through the queue, and so with
these countries, we're going to bring us their best offer.
We will end up. And they played some great certainty
over the next ninety days on tariffs. But we had
very good inflation numbers today. Oil family had a successful
bond market, so I don't see anything unusual today.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
What are you planning on using the money as you're
geting rather through the TARISA, paying down national debt, reducing taxes,
creating good budgets, helping Christy with the border, and all
of the other things we built.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
We're trying to retaliate today by reducing the number of
American films that can.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Be shown there.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
What's your reaction to them now targeting cultural experts from
the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think I've heard of worse thing.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
For the White House said goods from China would be
subject to a one hundred and forty five percent terrifyrate.
That's higher than what Trump had said Wednesday yesterday when
he said that that rate would be one hundred and
twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
What do you think they're going to do at this
point in this big theoretical continue to build.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's why I was an advocate for why are we
messing around?
Speaker 10 (03:27):
Just go to four hundred percent, Get everybody on a plane,
let's meet it a gcombo wherever that look, what are
you going to do twenty five percent every day until
your four hundred? Just go to four hundred and then
it becomes impossible for them to access the American market,
which is thirty nine percent of all consumption in the
world and twenty six point one percent of the world's GDP.
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China cannot do without America, period. And the reason that
she would care about this and the laser focused on it.
He only gets to be the supreme leader in perpetuity
while people are employed and eating and feeding and making
sure their families are taken care of. If it's mass
closures of factories, he's screwed. So he knows that too.
(04:08):
And right now, as Stuart Varney detailed and others know this,
it's precarious situation over in China on their currency and
a lot of other issues. As you measure their economy
and their GDP growth. Now, look, I want to be
clear about this. I have no problem with the Chinese people,
and I, along with millions of other investors, want to
do business in China.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I've had it with getting screwed on IP.
Speaker 10 (04:32):
I've done, and I want someone to go in there
and level the playing field. That's what I want and
what I will take ability and signed a.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Couple of historic fields, one which is with the Panama
Canal Authority a framework for US vessels first and free.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Through the Panama Canal.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
And then also a memorandum of understanding with their Security
Minister for the presidence of US troops for Sherman and
a US space there, as well as a legal station
and air station jointly with Panama to secure the Panama Canal.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
From Chinese influence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's something you said. We're taking back the canal.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
China's had too much influence Obama and others let them
creep in.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We along with Panama are pushy amounts.
Speaker 11 (05:18):
US forces in Panama. We'll go with controversial history. But
what do you think might be required of the US
military under this deal?
Speaker 12 (05:27):
I think that's a question for the Secretary of Defense
and the President that hasn't been answered. We've seen this
a lot where they spike the ball and they don't
offer the details around what's going to be required, especially
in the US forces. Look, it's better than an invasion, right,
I mean, the tough talk they've been having lately around
Panama and others makes everybody scared of an actual military conflict.
So this seems to be a de ratcheting or a
de escalation at least of the rhetoric.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And maybe we can move toward a deal that helps.
Speaker 12 (05:50):
American interests and brings a focus back on China, which
is what Trump and Hegseth have been doing this week,
which is a lot more popular politically. It's a lot
more intelligence strategically, rather than kind of spraying and praying
across the globe, they're now focusing on China economically and militarily,
which I think is the right place to focus if
you're talking about the next fifty years or so and
who's going to be our adversary. But the devil's in
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the details here, and it's often a show with big
talk and not a lot of details, and that's what
we need right now.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
I want to ask you, what is the future of
this budget blueprint that was adopted today, What are the
next steps?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Do we know where it's going?
Speaker 13 (06:24):
What's a long process still, Christina, And there could be
many pitfalls that Congressional Republicans face along the way. They
basically just have an outline, a sketch right now of
what their goals are on spending and the cuts that
they'd like to make, but even those are not necessarily
those targets that they hope to ultimately hit. Republicans in
both the House and Senate would like to make cuts
(06:46):
in the range of one point five to two trillion dollars,
which is not what it specifically spells out. And this
budget resolution that they passed here today, but the Speaker
of the House the Senate majority leader have essentially given
a pinky swear to these House Republicans in particular that
want to see those steep cuts that when the final
reconciliation package comes to bear, that those cuts will exist.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Now, that's not going to be easy.
Speaker 13 (07:09):
Because they also have to pass what they're hoping would
be a four point five trillion dollar extension of.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
The Trump tax cuts.
Speaker 13 (07:15):
They promised that they're not going to touch the benefits
to entitlement programs like Medicaid. It's really hard to make
that math work and do so in a way that
doesn't blow a huge hole in the deficit. So there's
a lot of work that needs to be done here.
They got over this step, but many House Republicans are
already saying that they were willing to do this because
it's not final and not binding. But when the actual
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final product comes to bear, they want to see those
steep cuts, and if they don't, there'll be a no vote.
So the Speaker and the President both of a lot
of work still to do.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Christina, Yeah, when.
Speaker 11 (07:49):
It comes to cutting without touching those entitlements, the math
isn't really mathing. As the kids would say, this.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. You're not going to free shot all these
networks lying about the people.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go? To share the
big line mega media.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
War use your host Stephen gave Maas.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's Thursday, ten April, on the ear of our Lord,
twenty twenty five. Just incredibly explosive day all around the
capitol in the world for news and things that are
vitally important. Recommendation I want to make, and there's so
much going on, is that citizens free press. You have
this extraordinary individual, Kine. He's a lot like Andrew Breitbard,
(09:11):
even Drudging in.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
The old days.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Remember Andrew came up by being the editor, one of
the editors, or actually the only wingman Drudge had for
many many years. Those guys who work, you know, twelve on,
twelve off all the time, seven days a week, never
left the page alone.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Kine.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Were very blessed to have someone like Kane, who is
a just a news hound and what I call a
gym rat. And this is how we recruit people at
the war room. Those are the people that want to
get up on the Saturday morning and sweep the gym
and be doing you know, free throws at seven o'clock
in the morning. You can't get him out of the gym.
They just love it. They love the game, they love
(09:46):
what they do. It's so important, I think, to go
to Citizens Free Press throughout the day because they're continually
putting up great headlines and really framing narratives. And two
that he's particularly on and that Kane I think from
his years doing this has become kind of an expert there.
It is right there if you see it, if you're
listening to the podcast. This is why you got to
(10:07):
get the command brief, You got to get the videos
because you've got to I know, we have tons of
podcast audience that listen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is one of the reason you got to get.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We got Citizens Free Press up there right now, and
it really summarizes the day. Number One, this situation with China.
This is not about reciprocity. This is not even about tariffs.
That's all part of it. This is the world's two
great powers. One power that was totally created by the
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elites in the United States. That's the China, the Great civilization,
but I mean destroyed by the Chinese Commiest Party, and
they worked in conjunction with the Chinese Comedies Party. Our elites,
financial elites, political elites worked, business elites, worked with the
Chinese Commiest Party to basically take it from a kind
of a backwards agricultural power to a manufacturing super power
(11:00):
on your tax dollars and your pension funds that ship
those jobs over there. And President Trump's now said, hey,
we got a problem. We've got to reindustrialize. We have
to become an industrial power to retain our greatness. We
have to have manufacturing jobs that families can build real
lives around, right, not just these service jobs that are
(11:22):
you know, are never around up and down, have no
stability to it, have no true competitive advantage over time.
So in his efforts to reindustrialize this country, eventually you're
going to have to get to the hard and of
the problem in China and the Chinese Campanist Party, the
Chinese people are fantastic. Lau by Jing, I'm very honored
(11:43):
to head up be one of the co founders of
New Federal State of China.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's one of these alternative groups that look to work.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
With lauby Jing to freedom selves by work with many
many others as being one of the proudly one of
the leaders of the anti CCP organizations throughout the world.
Because there are murderous dictators ship every bed, every bit
as bad as the Bolsheviks under Stalin and the Nazis
under Hitler. They're just a brutal dictatorship. We're in it
(12:10):
now and that's why I think. You know, when people
talk about, hey, we want a meeting with them, there's
no one meeting.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He's going to solve the problem. What's here?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
First off, as Natalie has shown you over years to
investigator Port, there is so embedded into the cultural life,
into the universities. There's three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese
students right here paying full freight. What do you think
would happen to the university system if we tell them
to leave tomorrow, which we should do. The university system
has tapped off this the national labs of weapons labs
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Chinese nationals all throughout that Biden allowed tens of thousands
of military age men of Chinese men into the country
right now. One of the lead stories up on Citizens
Free Press the Wall Street Jones breaking it, the Biden
administration was told to their face last year in Geneva,
that all these cyber hacks actually the infrastructure. Remember when
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Chris Ray did the sixty minutes, it was so shocking
to the country, and he says, yeah, the number one
problem we have is China, the CCP OH and what
they have done. They're embedded in all of our infrastructure.
I mean the elluctrial grid, the communication systems, the highway systems,
the transportation logistics systems.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
They're embedded, either through software or other means.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And when the flag goes up, when the balloon goes up,
they will use that infrastructure to cripple us. We've been asleep.
We've been asleep for a long time. I know the
war and Posse hasn't. You're the army of the awaken.
And folks in this country have said, hey, I don't
like what's happening. I see too many business guys rubbing
up on the Chinese. Remember when she came to San
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Francisco and all the elites in New York City flew
out there, you know, the Council on Farm Relations, the
Acious Society, and all the big tech bros. Remember they
were slobbergn all over she Remember that that's who their
allegiance is too. We're in it, folks. There's no when
meeting to talk about reciprocity. This is global, it's multi dimensional,
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and one side is going to win and one side
is going to lose. We've got tremendous leverage here. We
have tremendous power in this. We have to smartly use
that power and kind of bring this to a head.
I've argued for years decoupling. We have to we can't
be a part of a system that they're part of
an economic system because why there's systems based upon slave labor.
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They're always going to drive and crush wages always because L'aubaijing, unfortunately,
are slaves to a murderous dictatorship. Short commercial break and
tell the flip side of this. So tain's got up
on citizens free press. We've got to stop kidding ourselves
about federal spending.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
The games have to stop. Next in the world.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
America.
Speaker 14 (15:00):
So the House today also proved the Save Act, the
bill requiring proof of citizenship for voter registrations. The President
signed a similar executive order last month. That executive order
has been challenged legally, but this is a bill now
that has been passed by the House.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's going to go out of the Senate.
Speaker 15 (15:16):
How do you feel that on that Yeah, you know,
there's that saying when this is a solution in.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Search of a problem.
Speaker 15 (15:24):
This is a classic example of the Save Act of
what Republicans are doing is once again demonizing immigrants for
the sake of making it harder for eligible citizens to
register to vote and to cast their bouts in elections.
It's voter suppression in disguise, not so much of a disguise.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 15 (15:42):
It is already illegal for non citizens to vote in
our elections, even the very.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, I get Benzman up because so much going on
on the border. Before I bring Tina, I just want
to go one more time back to citizens street press
now more than ever because since drug's gone off the
reservation years ago, Cain keeps a running they call it
the stack, and he's always breaking news. And this guy
does not sleep. But like right up at the top,
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every now and again, Kane plays it pretty straight.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And you can tell.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
By the way if you if you spend enough time there,
you can tell when he's framing a message or he's
framing a narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But every now and.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Again, he will. He will actually give editorial commentary. And
I keep telling people when Kane does that, it's kind
of like a papal bull.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You should you should pay attention, and you should you
should read.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's like when Trump says no games right there, Mike
Johnson makes blood oath to cut one point five train
and spending, except it's over ten years of just one
hundred and fifty billion deficits.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think Kine is right. That's what we're trying to
get in back of.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And I think it's one of the reasons Philip Patrick's
gonna be in the bottom of the hour. Gold's now spiked,
the ten year treasury is not doing that great. I
think people see the potential for inflation coming back because listen,
at the end of the day, President Trump's doing amazing stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Commodity prices are dropping.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He's going full spectrum energy dominance in every vertical he
can to ring out inflation, He's doing it. The one
that to me is the most important is you're still
giving this massive canes in stimulus unless I can't do
the math right, and I think I can. I just
see the deficits of two trallion dollars a year that
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one point five trade I think is over ten years.
And remember we've gone through this exercise before. This is
the reason Macarthy got turfed out. Remember the time they
came back and said, we have so many conservative wins,
we got so many conservative wins, we've got cuts that
go you have nothing. First off, all these cuts are
ephemeral that all take place in the out year, so
they never happen. The only thing that happens is an
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appropriation bill that take place in that year. And that's
going to give me to Elon Musk in a moment.
I'm gonna play that live because a bombshell was dropped
in that incredible cabinet meeting President Trump, basically a cabinet
meeting with the cameras there, which is extraordinary. But Elin
talked about the waste for an abuci found. But I
want to save that to after Todd Bensman. So, Todd,
the Save Act. They already hate that. You've got an
(18:10):
incredible article up up on Daily Wire of what you're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The Save Act now makes it official for federal you
can't you got to have a voter ID. You can't,
you can't register unless you've got a real id. There's
no more possibility we'll let foreign nationals vote in our elections.
On the other side, have we really started to criminalize it?
That is real that coming across the border you're going
to get thrown into jail first and then ship back.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You're just not going to be loud in the country.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because I saw President Trump on your famous app, you know,
I think it was yesterday, he said, Hey, everybody came
on the app since nineteen seventy three has got to
go back immediately. Todd Bensman, Yeah, I just came back
from Del Rio Federal Court down there. I was in
the courtroom for three days watching them bring bus loads
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of apprehended illegals into the court on charges of improper
entry thirteen to twenty five of Section eight of the
i NA, and then a whole other courtroom full of
you know, they brought in twenty seven on the next
rung up thirteen twenty six.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
These are federal charges. They are widespread. I have this
from you know, the highest, best possible source.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
This is part of a.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Coast to coasts, border to border, north to south initiative
by the Trump administration to send illegal aliens that they
apprehend anywhere into federal prosecution. Now, the first timers might
get thirty days or sixty days or up to six months,
not that big of a deal, but that's only half
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the story. The trick is that when we deport them
every time after they're out of jail, and if they
come back then they face two years, ten years, and
even twenty years, depending on how many times they've come
back and whether they've got other criminal non immigrant criminal history.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And you know, the.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Impact of thousands and thousands of these really has, you know,
is reverberating all over the you know, Latin America and
all over the world. We don't want to end up
in prison now when we cross. So that's a significant
I don't think I think it's got a lot of
it's been undercovered quite a bit, but I went down
(20:35):
to actually see this thing, and it's very impactful. Something
to keep in mind. One other thing about that is,
you know, anybody who's getting antsy and impatient about Tom
Homan's mass deportations should just delay their gratification a little bit,
because we have to wait until these people serve their
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time before we can add them to the deportation roles.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But there's going to be thousands of them.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
It's ramping up that program, and it's a good program
because it's got.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Sharp shark seeth in it.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
You know, ten twenty years in prison the next time
you come back.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So let me get right when you say the ten
or twenty years, they catch them. Now you get sent
back right away. If you come back, the penalties have
actually been raised. You're going to spend real time in prison.
So that'll be a massive that'll be a massive way
to tell people you don't want to do this.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
A deterrent. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yes, that's the way it works.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
They if you get if you're a first time offender,
it's a thirteen to twenty five charge misdemeanor, federal misdemeanor.
There also can be a felony charge on thirteen twenty
five as well.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
That comes with two years.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Most of that six months are under and these guys
are like, oh whatever, you know, free room and board
for a few months, but not if they come back
and those thirteen twenty six is are getting multiple years
in prison. I talked to judges, I talked to criminal
defense attorneys while I was down there in Del Rio,
in the courtroom and they're like, yeah, I've seen guys
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get ten years in prison for returning. Now it gets
even worse if they have criminal history on them where
you know they did an assault or a felony, you know,
some kind of rape or whatever while they were here,
then you're looking at serious prison time. This is a
really important tool because you've got detention and deportation, expedited removal.
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We all know about that, but you know when they
come back over and over and over, you always hear
about these repeat offenders.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
This is the way you reduce the chances of a
resurgence of mass migration by putting a big sledge hammer
in the air over them or sort of domoicles over
them for returning. So this thing is spreading all over
the country. This is a big program.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
One of the things I think people are getting antsy.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's not that they've only seen Homan or the Secretary
of DHS no on these raids and doing these raids
and talking about putting bad guys and putting guys on planes,
and we're fighting in courts. The concern it gets to
be in this new reconciliation budget. It's the one big
beautiful bill now has the deportation's part, and it's one
hundred and seventy five billion dollars. So number one, that
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is a massive amount of money. But two, people want
to know. They see what happened on the app and
now there's nine or thirty thousand people, When are we
going to actually get to the mass deportation side? Are
we going to have to wait for one hundred and
seventy billion to be spent? Then you're talking to years.
I think people are getting antsy because they realized the
criminals that came across. Yes, there's a there's lots of those,
(23:53):
and they have to be dealt with, and it looks
like Homan and Christy Noman others are dealing with it.
But the mass deportation part, starting with the app, the
nine seventy three or whatever that number was, when is
that going to kick in and people start, you know,
we started getting these guys out of here and start
getting off the back monetarily and financially and business wise
off of African Americans and Hispanic citizens so they don't
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have to keep compete with these folks for jobs.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean, I've been telling the Posse for quite
a while now that you know, you've got to be
patient because the Biden administration dismantled the machine, the deportation
and detention machine, literally dismantled it. For example, they closed
all the every family detention center in the United States
(24:43):
was shuttered. I drove past one last week Dilley in Dilley,
Texas and tried to get up there, and they're under
construction now, so it's still not open. They're going to
have to put open centers in the interior of the
country to put people while they're waiting for a bus
or a plane to fill up to come and get them.
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And also, you know, there are other programs that are
in play. For example, you know they want to put
a registration. If you don't register your presence here and
we catch you, that's going to be a charge on
you unless you self deport They're creating some of those
kind of programs to incentivize self deportation, which I think
will help. But remember the engineers of this thing, the
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architects of the mass migration crisis, which was done fully,
completely on purpose for four years straight. There was no
accident here. They did it on purpose with lawyers, you know,
constructing the whole thing carefully is designed to be a
one way road in, one way road in because everybody
(25:51):
knows that it's difficult then to legally remove people. There
are processes, legal processes to make up to open.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Up the way going the other way. They knew that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Hang on, I'm gonna hold you because I've got to
get to the bottom of this. Philip Patrick's also going
to join us. Gold's on fire today. We're going to
talk about why capital markets Julie Kelly is going to
be worth us. We're going to break down, Julie everything
on the legal side, particularly trying to trap President Trump
with these folks in the contempt charge.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
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Speaker 5 (27:00):
Host, Stephen Kat.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, So I'm gonna have to move some things around
because we have so much to go through the day.
But I got to get that this is bugging me.
No in.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
How do I say this?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Let me say this in a way that doesn't hurt feelings.
But you know, I've seen our Attorney general and we
love her, but she's on a fox a lot and
Cash is grinding. I actually am glad they took atf
and gave her the Army answry it maybe like Cash
is fired. Cash is not fired. This job he and
Dan Bongina have the FBI is huge. However, folks, I
(27:41):
want this to burn into you. I want to rub
some salt in the wound here because we've got to
get this rolling, and I commit to you we'll get
it rolling. But we are now talking about a budget
that is going to be bigger than six and a
half trillion dollars. And one of the reasons is they're
going to ask for one hundred and fifty billion dollars
more defense money than the nine hundred billion on the
(28:03):
Defense Authorization. So it's going to put US over trillion dollars,
which to me is ob seen. And I say that
as a hawk. Number two, there's one hundred and seventy
billion dollars to have a deportation system that was purposely
taken apart by the Biden regime to allow ten million
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people in here, and now we have to pay and
it's going to take as years to get this ready
to get these ten million people out. Now, if that's
not a crime, it's got to be something, and there's
got to be a thorough to your mind, Todd Bensman,
the process of taking it down as they did that
was so systematic because you would come on here for
(28:44):
years and unlike all the other shows you would go
it is not chaos at the border.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
This is very well thought through.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
They're doing this systematically, they're taking a part systematically, they're
inviting people in. This is going to have a long
term impact for the country. In Inducy. You look at
this was probably even higher than inflation. Right, the thing
that got Trump back to office because of one of
his core signature things just like tariffs and trade and
bringing manufacturing jobs back from the first term. To your knowledge, well,
(29:16):
first off, am I wrong? Is this not treason when
you take a part a system that's there to protect
the sovereignty of the country and the sovereignty of our
citizens and take that apart and invite.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The world in. And now we know that it's so hard.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Legally you got to put all this stuff back together again,
and plus physically you have to go recreate the logistics
thing a transport, and even then, it's never been built
to send ten million people back home. If that's not
a crime, or if that's not treason to the nation,
I don't know what is.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Todd Benson, Well, I do believe that there is a
lot of fraud to be uncovered. I will share this
with you during the break. I didn't think of this,
but I was contacted recently by a congressional investigator. I'm
not going to say who or which chamber uh that
(30:08):
has this is a an arm of Congress that has
very powerful subpoena power, asking me what they should do,
who they should subpoena, what they should what they so
so that there are there is interest in uh you know,
fact uh, diving into what actually happened fraud wise.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
UH.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
And you know, my biggest concern I told this person
was you know that that maybe there would be.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Destruction of documents.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
There were going to be people that were involved in
this thing that are gone now, political appointees, people that
served in all of the Agency of d of DHS,
at the State Department, of the Domestic Policy Council. Uh,
maybe the NSC, I don't know. The point is is
that that this was to deliberate, It was careful, it
(31:03):
was well done. Actually, if I'm being honest, grudgingly have
to say how well done this thing was. And there
is room for investigator's demand. There needs to be investigation
into how using.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
But yeah, hang on, I want you to go through
that right now.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But President Trump just signed an executive order yesterday and
Krebs and saying crabs have going around forever is the safest,
it's the safest, most secure ever. And Tulsi Gabbett I
think said to day at the Cabinet meeting, they have
evidence that DN I of actually the Lindale's going to
be up here because he's skipping around lightness here on fire.
Because I'm not a machine guy, right, I think they
(31:43):
stole it with Mayland ballots. However, I've always been opened
the machines are too complicated for what they're sort of
be done, and that always gets you know, that always
has me worried to why they so complicated. Tulsi Gabbratt,
I think, says the day in the cabinet meeting that yeah,
we think we found evidence that we're pursuing evidence of
of the hacking of the machines and crabs. He signs
an executive order to go after Krebs. I mean, do
(32:04):
we need and maybe help the president frame for the
president's signing an executive order about this that this has
to be investigated. I mean, first of if it's one
hundred and seventy billion dollar tab folks, that usould be
the size of the defense budget a couple a decade
or so ago. I mean, that is a number that
is just shocking to me. And people in this town
are not sitting there going this is the most outrageous
(32:25):
thing I've ever seen. We took a system that wasn't perfect,
but it worked if you enforced it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They systematically took it apart, and knowing.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Exactly what they had to do right then they allowed
ten million people in basically to take low skilled jobs
against African Americans and Hispanics, and also, as we know,
try to get try to gin up new voters, and
then when they're thrown out and the people throw them
out for this topic being like number one, we get
(32:53):
the tab. Oh yeah, it's going to take a few
years because they took it apart so well, it's one
hundred and seventy billion dollars going to take your time.
If we don't hold people accountable for that, that entire thing,
if that doesn't reach treason that you did that and
allowed invaders in here. Trump just said, hey, nine hundred
and seventy three a thousand are here toofore ready to
(33:15):
go back. This thing is maddening, and I don't think
we show the American people we're serious about this. Of
course they're going to sit there and go, hey, you
guys are just part of the swamp.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's just gol to get along.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
This has to be a high priority, not just the
physical removal, but also the process of how it happened
and who's responsible and who's going to be held accountable
and who's going to go to prison. Scarven Mayorkis and
the rest of that crowd that would sit there and
smirk through hearing after hearing, lie and perjure themselves.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Impeachment's not enough.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Todd Bensman, Yeah, I have to agree with just about
everything you said there. I mean, good governance demands accountability
about what happened.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
I've written before.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
That we have to have a at the very least
some kind of a commission that I know you don't
like the idea of commissions, but I agree that there
needs to be fact finding about who did what when,
and there needs to be backing a DOJ Department of
Justice backup for the things that they find. For referrals
(34:19):
on the interior of the Biden administration, these are going
to be the political appointing class. I've said this many
times on your show. They did this. They came from
the NGOs, they came from the migrant advocacy industrial complex,
not think tanks. They came from those places, and the
(34:40):
things that they did benefited their former employees, employers rather
and future employers. So there's a lot to be done
there that I don't think that they've I'm not sure
that it's fully appreciated yet in the administration. How badly
people want justice for what happened and they just justice.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yes, people are furious anyway, I'll talk to you Averts.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We'll get this organized.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I might add, and Liz your in the gang for
forgetting this to me. But to show you how much
the Catholics, the regular people and Catholics hitting the second
collection or something supported the Catholic charities, refugee program and
illegal alien invasion program as soon as the government cut
it off. Todd, didn't they announce the other day that
(35:26):
after fifty years of doing this, we're out of the business.
As soon as you cut the government tap on, there
wasn't enough money coming from Catholics to support it. They
basically said they're not in that business anymore. This shows
you how corrupt these NGOs are. These NGOs are like
barnacles on a ship. We got to get to the
body these NGOs, and then who supported the NGOs, the
sources and all those guys. They're all part of a
(35:47):
vast criminal conspiracy to have an invasion of the United
States of America, the greatest invasion that's ever happened in
our country. Nothing else even comes close. It came close
to destroying the nation. We have to im we don't.
When the balloon goes up on the CCP, do I
have people in the new Frets, right, I have people
(36:07):
that are Chinese, that are your Chinese citizens and say, hey,
you have no worth the idea.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What's coming across the border during the Biden years.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You're totally exposed to fighting age men, and we know
we got terrorists.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Your book, your book expose.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
How many terrorists are coming across I mean, your two
books back to back were kind of the two guns,
the two gun approach to find out what's going on.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It just maddens me.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And I know realize people have so much ado, they're
so burdened with what's going on, but this has got
to be a top priority. We got to get an
executive I actually think the President ought to assign a
special counsel in order to report directly to him.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
In the White House. That'll blow up the legal community
and this they.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Are in a panel of grand jury, and they ought
to start going just going, just ripping on this thing.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Todd Bensman, your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Grand jury, good idea, but most definitely and by the way,
one of those border crossers went on to conduct a
terror attack, an actual terror attack in Chicago in October. Mauritanian,
I'll just mention that I've got to I went to
Chicago and reported on that.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
But the point is.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
That, yeah, it's not just the NGOs, but it's they're
friends that ran the subcontracting bus company and the food
vendor company, and the hotel brokers that brokeer for the
hotel rooms and the whole thing up and down that
companies that were created out of thin air because oh
my god, we've got to get you know, minibuses on
(37:31):
this down to Del Rio or whatever, and we're going
to pay you. Don't worry about it. Just bill us,
you know that sort of thing. I promise you that
you would find kickbacks, you would find evidence of overcharging,
and you know, contracts, steering and all the usual stuff
(37:51):
whenever you have money kind of volume.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Grace Chung just sends me a federal judge breaking news.
A federal jodge is allowing the Trump administration to move
forward with their requirement that everyone in the United States
illegally must register with the federal government, in a move
that could have far reaching repercussions for immigrants across the nation.
Your thoughts on that, Todd Bensman, that's the head.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yeah, I mentioned that earlier.
Speaker 8 (38:17):
This is a great idea, as a way to create
leverage where none exists. On illegal aliens that are in
the country who don't register. We catch you and you
didn't register, you can you can be fined and or
go to jail. I'm prosecuted for that. And why don't
you just self deport if you don't want to register?
(38:39):
That sort of thing. So, I mean, it's a cudgel,
and they're coming up with more and more out of
the box ideas like that. Remember it's a one way
super highway into the country always, but there is no
way out really except by a narrow country trail. That's
the way the cism is. The people that engineered this
(39:02):
thing knew that. When they were engineering it, they knew it.
Everybody knows that. Who does this business on immigration?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Todd?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
What is your Where do they get your books, where
they get your writing? Where they get all of it?
Speaker 10 (39:17):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well, while we have you, while we're fortunate enough to
have you.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Uh yeah, I'm on X bensmon Todd at X and
I have an.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Account at getter and truth Social and my website is
toddbinsmrom dot com. I work for the Center for Immigration Studies.
They're the ones that fund all of my trips, you know,
pay my mortgage and that kind of stuff. Great organization
CIS dot org.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
They're the best.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Todd, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here.
We'll get to the bottom of this. I kind of
like my special counsel idea. I think we'll play around
with that tonight. Think about it. Got something has to happen,
has to formally happen. We've got to start a process here.
I realized there's so much going on, but you know,
we got we got to get some more laboring Oarzona.
This is a big one because it's not going to
(40:08):
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Speaker 16 (40:59):
Box down, bonds down in price, boil down down, dollar
down hard, Okay. So basically people are turning pretty much
all dollar assets into cash or something owned.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Hey, gold screen gold of course is.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And a turbulent day, and there's gonna be many turbulent days, folks.
One of the reasons we've partnered with Birch Golds four
years ago was we kind of saw this financial turbulence
coming in Biden and what they did with the bouncy
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
It was going to continue.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Even regardless of what President Trump's doing. And he's trying
to write this ship, why is this happening? Why we
have these dal Jones down two thousand points up, three
thousand points down. Tenure Treasury but gold seems to be
on a tear. What's driving that, Sir Philip.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
It's climate's like this, right, it's volativity, it's economic uncertainty,
it's dollar devaluation, all of the above. I mean, we've
talked about these issues for a long long time. It's
all starting to hit ustin of cools. Gold thrives in
those climates. Gold today has officially hit another all time high.
We're at thirty one seventy five, up twenty one percent
(42:09):
for the year so far. Bank of America now raised
their forecasts again. Gold thirty five hundred by the end
of the year, ubsay forty five hundred by.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Mid next year.
Speaker 17 (42:21):
Look, at the end of the day, we're in the
middle of a geopolitical and economic realignment. The global order
we've known for decades is sort of breaking apart. And
in times like this, individuals, governments, they turn to hard
assets and especially gold. So it's not a surprise to me,
I know it's not a surprise to you. Gold is
(42:42):
hitting all time highs and it's projected to continue to
do so at least for the shorter medium term.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm going to have one of the specialists that one
of the gentlemen. Now we're in a new federal state
for us and we're doing this big thing on Tenement Square,
the anniversary on for June, and we're putting together speaker.
One thing in our research are showing that the Chinese
Chemist Party as they're talking to people, they now have
come out and they're taking the lead on the dedollarization effort,
one of the weapons. And that's why I say this
(43:12):
is not about terriffs and trade anymore. This is two
different economic systems. One that is benefited from the capital
of the other. That would be the Chinese Cochemist Party.
The understands is being cut off. There's no place they
won't go to take us down. The one effort they're
doing behind the scenes is the dedollarization effort. Are what
we see in here people concerned about that central banks
(43:34):
buying gold. I mean, what is the trend you're seeing
because every day it's not simply the price that's going up,
but it's the amount of activity and back of that price.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Sir.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
Yeah, look at dedollarization has been been a big part
of this.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
They've said for the last three years.
Speaker 17 (43:50):
Central banks have set record year on year on year
for gold buying, and it's in an effort to dedollarize, right, China,
As much as they want to move away from the dollars,
they don't have a better alternative from a currency standpoint,
and they're using gold as a means to dedollarize. And
that's the one big concern. Obviously, there's a big negotiation
(44:11):
going on. And I agree with you. I don't think
this Choina thing is so much about a trade in
balance as much as it is about an existential struggle
with the CCP's authoritarian economic model.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
For years, they've been playing us like cuckuts.
Speaker 10 (44:25):
Right.
Speaker 17 (44:26):
They steal our intellectual property, They subsidize industries and dump
products into the United States. They manipulate their currency to
gain advantage. And I think what Trump is doing now
is saying enough is enough. Right, If you want to
access American markets, you're going to have to do it
on fair terms or not at all. But like you say,
we're in a precarious position. We're carrying more debt now
(44:48):
than has ever been held by any nation in history,
and China are large holders of US debt.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
If they start to dump US debt.
Speaker 17 (44:56):
We're going to see what happens to borrowing rates on
treasuries he spiked quite aggressively. If that continues, that could
create problems domestically. So this is a very tough thing
to navigate. I think President Trump is doing a good job.
I was excited to see the ninety day pause on
the rest of the world's tariffs. I think it's diplomacy
(45:19):
in action, and I think he's trying to create some
togetherness to ultimately deal with the China problem, because ultimately
that's the big problem for us.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
But that's why I say, you go to a citizens repressure,
get both sides of what's happening. You have that, and
that's fully engaged, But then you look at I think
the reason that the tens have been spiking and even
some of the rush to gold is the big, beautiful
built President Trump investment. Both have a theory of the case,
this is your last shot to get a supply side
tax cut and do it.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
And I got that they're working at.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
But the spending on this, and that's why it's kind
of gimmicky about how this thing evencame a part. I
think the bond market saying that, and they're a little
a little jiggy on this. And if you look up
in the headlines and saysting for us. It kind of
breaks it down. It's really like one hundred and fifty
billion dollars of spending, which cuts which even those are small,
those never happen. People psychological because I know you get
(46:14):
at three o'clock out west, I want you to bounce.
But people have the psychological and say, hey, I should
have gotten in years ago, and Warren started talking about
it was eleven hundred bucks. I missed it, and get
They get nervous about the highs.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
What is your.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
How do you talk to people when they come in
and you say, hey, it's an all time high and
it's sitting at all time high every couple of days. But
that's not about it being a hedge. It's not about
being a store of value. What's the psychology there? Because
I know a lot of people are spooked that the
price of gold is actually so high.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Listen, the reality is everything is high.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Right.
Speaker 17 (46:46):
Obviously we've seen the markets come down this year from
the highs, but we've been dealing to the last fifties.
Markets are at all time highs, gold at all time highs. Everything,
Your housing markets rare call you know, rare whiskey markets
are one which everything's high, and it's a reflection of
what we've done.
Speaker 14 (47:04):
Right.
Speaker 17 (47:04):
We've had zero interest rates almost for twelve of the
last fifteen years. We pump money through the economy and
what it does is it creates bubbles. What we're starting
to see is those bubbles come undone. But the question
is not what can I buy low and sell high today?
The question then becomes what's more conducive for the climate
in front of us? And that's where I see a
(47:26):
big advantage with medals. Look what President Trump of the
team trying to do is a big, big thing, and
in the process, we're going to see bubbles. Bus We're
going to see global economic instability, and gold in those
climates thrive. Then on top of that you've got depth
and deficits as the overhanging problem. Right, this is where
(47:47):
our dollar could be in trouble longer term. Gold is
the best hedge against that. So I don't fear gold's prices.
There are a flection of the dollar's value, and unless
we can curb spending and deficits, the story is the
limit for gold.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Philip, where do people go? We'll let your bounce make
you three o'clock. Where do people go to get you?
Speaker 17 (48:08):
So very easy, Birch, goold dot com, forward, slash Bannon
or text Bannon to nine eight nine eight nine eight,
whatever you prefer, that'll get them access to End of
the Dollar Empire reports a ton of information on how
and why to invest in gold in today's climate, and
they can reach me directly on geta at Philip Patrick.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Philip Patrick, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Gold at another all time high on the tenth of
April in the.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Euro of our Lord twenty twenty five. The right stuff
takes us up. We are back in the war and
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