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April 12, 2025 49 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, APRIL 12TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This, to me is one of the most shocking pieces
of poll data that I truly truthfully have seen this year,
maybe in any prior year. Yes, really, because I want
you to take a look cares more about the needs
for people like you.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
You mentioned to Kate Ball and we got a tie.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Even after this terrifar had already started split between Democrats
and Republicans on how people feel which party cares more
for needs of people like you? And why is that
so surprising? Because I want you to take a look
at prior years, Democrats always lead on this question back
in twenty seventeen, before the twenty eighteen mid terms, thirteen
point lead, twenty five at twenty three point lead for Democrats,

(00:34):
nineteen ninety four, which was a big Republican year, a
nineteen point lead for Democrats, and now, all of a sudden,
a tie, All of a sudden, the Democrats, who are
the party of the people no more, no more, we
get a tie on this question on a question that
has traditionally overwhelmingly been a Democratic advantage people for party,
which party cares more for.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
The needs of people like you.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's truly something I would not have expected to see,
especially after this Tara for had begun.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Where does it show that Republicans are making the most gains?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, again, you talk about party of the people. Look
at this cares for the neededs of people like yourself.
Look here, we got non college we got those with
a college degree. Among those with a college degree, it's
the same score eight plus eighteen points for Democrats in
twenty seventeen, plus eighteen points for Democrats now.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
But look among non college voters.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Look here, it was plus seven for Democrats in twenty seventeen,
and now Republicans an overwhelmingly gained plus nine points. That is,
the gains have been concentrated, at least within the last
decade among voters without a college degree, the working class.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That is where Republicans have gained.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Even since the beginning of the Donald Trump administration, the
Democratic base is now those with a college three among
the working class. For those without a college free, Republicans
have overwhelmingly gained on this all important question of which
party cares more for people like yourself?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
What ofference points are as you're pointing out just before
a midterm election, So we're obviously let's kind of look
at that. Where do things stand for the five per Congress.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Right, Okay, so you have this question right, and then
there's the question ultimately, are Republicans going to get punished
in this midterm election? In part because that's normally what happens,
the party empower gets punished, but also because of this,
Tarafor and I want you to take a look here
at the generic congressional ballot where we were in April
of twenty seventeen. Democrats were already ahead by seven points.
In November of twenty twenty four on this question it

(02:29):
was a tie, and then of course Republicans won control.
Where are we now It's Democrats, but just by a point.
This looks very much still like what we saw in
twenty twenty four, not like what we saw in twenty seventeen.
If Democrats think they automatically have a ticket back to
control of the House, I'd say hold on a second.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Republicans still have a real.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Shot at this despite all of Trump's theatrics over the
last month.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
With this, Tarafor, there really is interesting information coming out
in this that you're pulling out.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you, har thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I think it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Kater breeze For once you know there we are.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Watching autocracy we are watching an autocrat try to take
over the government. And there's a reason that they're targeting
grad students, people who've written op ads, people who have
political views. They don't like judges. I mean, this is
this is a war on speech, and it is I
think the closest to McCarthyism, right, because I think so

(03:23):
much about my grandfather who was jailed during McCarthy and blacklisted.
And it really is it's a you know, it's a
war on the elites and the academics and the you know,
the journalist group, and and it really is this sort
of you know, and they are hoping by by deporting
the grad students, what they're doing is trying, you know,
they're trying to get to the people who are like that.

(03:44):
JP Morgan analytic.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Prey for enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
There's not going to free shot all these networks lying
about the people.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen,
and where do people like that go to share the
big line mega media.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 7 (04:24):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
War Room.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
He's your host, Stephen Kban.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Saturday, twelve April year Arlo, twenty twenty five. We were
going to spend this morning breaking down what went on
last night in La with the on the Bill Mahers Show.
Bill Maher's explanation of walking through with President Trump, the
dinner he had, the White House, and then my interview
and then afterwards some of the comments I made it
in the after show.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
But we don't have time. We have too much news today.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
We're packed wall from wall to wall, from about China
and Iran, polling, economics, the bond market, and maybe some
bad news about big tech for the Populace move We're
getting to all that, but I got to start with
important breaking news from one of the most important people
in our movement, Tom Finton.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Tom Finton, for years, I.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Would like to say we fought side by side and
I made a great film about Tom Finton in his
efforts back during the Obama years. But Tom, nobody really
fudged your side because you were ahead of all of
us running the people's Justice Department. I'm kind of shocked
when I get back at literally five am to do
the show from LA having driven all night, and I

(05:47):
find that Tom Finton is is suing the President Trump's
Justice Department and his Attorney general. Why would Tom Finton
do that? This is what you did for eight years
against Eric Holder. Why are you doing this? What has
caused you to do this now?

Speaker 8 (06:07):
Sir?

Speaker 9 (06:09):
Well, we sued under the FOYA for the Epstein records.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
They were supposed to be released.

Speaker 9 (06:15):
There was a great controversy in the process of the release,
initially by Pam Bondi's team, and we're like, what's going
on here? Where are the records? What records generally are
out there? What are being withheld where you're looking? What
happened with this initial release was their obstruction? Who did it?

(06:37):
And that's what we do. You know, I dare to
say we sued the Trump administration pretty much more than
anyone else first time around, and we'll sue the Trump
administration a lot this time around. Really to get to
the truth about the corruption that mostly overcome by President
Trump himself.

Speaker 8 (06:58):
Doing it.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, but hang on, you sued because I was there.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
You sued the Trump administration the first time because, let's
be honest, we didn't have this unitary theory, the executive
stepping into his Article two powers that he is the
chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer. This whole Wortergate,
all this Wartergate nonsense is broken. You sued it because
the deep state ran the Justice Department, and Jeff Sessions,

(07:26):
as good a man as he was, was just.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Not up to the task to take it on.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
And the people that Jeff put in there and others
put in there were worse.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Than some of the Obama guys.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
I mean, the Justice Department in the first term worked
against President Trump, and that's why you were suing him
every day. I thought we solved that problem. I thought
the four years that we took to do. You know
Stephen Miller's America First Law, you know russ Votes Center
for Renewing America. He got pay A Letta and Jeff
Clark over there, you know, Brooke Rollins's American First policy

(08:00):
and the Project twenty twenty five. I thought the top
and the top priority from President Trump, and excuse me
if I'm wrong, Tom Finton, was we got to clean out.
We got to we got to clean out the rats
nest that is the Justice Department because that infects that's
the kind of the lynchpin with the CIA of how
the deep state works.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
So what's happened here?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Brother?

Speaker 9 (08:22):
You know, at best, you've got a group of individuals
at the top level, and they fired some people, but.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
Nearly enough, and there's going to have to be.

Speaker 9 (08:35):
Pressure from the outside to get them the focus on
why they were put in power to begin with by
President Trump and then obviously the election initially of President Trump.
And there are a lot of things going on in
the Justice Department. And maybe I'm being too charitable, Steve,
but this lawsuit will help them focus on what needs

(08:56):
to be done.

Speaker 10 (08:57):
And there are many other you know, we have one hundred.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
And ninety lawsuit on Foya more or less more, I
think it's yeah, it's almost one hundred and ninety, and
we got to get answers if we can't wait. You know,
there's a significant public interest in the Epstein matter. To me,
it's kind of an Indisha of whether the Justice Department
is serious about this. And frankly, we want obviously the

(09:20):
client lists. I want to know the circumstances of his
death too. But we didn't just say give us the
client list. We said give us records about Epstein. And
we also want records about to get in the way
of the release of the Epstein records just two months ago.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yes, when they when they when they put out the
other thing that people had seen before. On the anti
trust side, I mean Monday, I think it's the FTC.
So President Trump's anti trust efforts with Gail Slater and
the people Justice are going gangbusters. The FTC, fcc SO,
the deconstruction, administrative state and the taking on of this
concentrated corporate power is unparallel to how they're going after it.

(10:07):
But your other things besides these, the investigations on the
voter fraud, just everything you know, you have.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
You have, Tulsa Gabbard mentioned something the DNI.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
The question is on the core investigations of what has
to happen. Walk me through your punch list of what
we have to do, because I don't think people feel
anything's happening there.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
We need to investigate prosecute and defang the FBI and
the Justice Department. Can they do that internally? As I
discussed previously with you, I'm doubtful. Frankly after four to me,
what the FBI and Justice Department did was they almost
destroyed our constitutional republic. Not ten years ago, not five

(10:52):
years ago, but four months ago, five months ago. It
was going on up until and frankly through the election.
And there's got to be accountability and we need to
protect ourselves from happening that again. That ever happening again.
And I kind of go back to obviously they're not
they're not the Japanese during the war, but what happened

(11:16):
in the after the war in Japan was the Japanese system.
They were completely knocked out, unable to even if they
wanted to do what they did in World War Two. Again,
that's got to be the approach of the FBI, Justice Department.
They need to be husks of them, of their former

(11:40):
selves in terms of having the ability to jail a
former president on a pretext and put his life in danger.
And that needs to be time. That needs to be
the emergency. It's an emergency. And what bugs me, Steve
is I've had, you know, the FBI engage in an

(12:02):
information operation against me and others who had relatively speaking of,
at least from my perspective, a mild complaint about a
guy who probably shouldn't be in a senior position in
the FBI being put in that position because of his background,
pushing this J six fake narrative, and they spent more

(12:22):
time trying to undermine the point I was making there,
and I heard pushback from all all sorts of ways,
indirectly from the FBI. Then I perceived that they've done
to investigate the issues I'm talking about. I wish they
would spend as much energy at least providing public leadership
on these issues. Maybe you do things privately, I don't know.

(12:45):
That's to me just smoking mirrors, But how about the
public leadership, Bond.

Speaker 10 (12:53):
When's the last.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Time we've heard on me once again.

Speaker 9 (12:55):
The leadership of FBI, or do OJ say anything about Walfare.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Tom You've called last week in the show for a
special prosecutor to be for the President, to set it
up in the White House and report directly to the
Office of the President in the president United States, Do
you still stand by that he's still calling for.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
That yes, and that prosecutor can be staffed by other
federal law enforcement outside the FBI. He can use some
expertise within the Justice Department, but it should be a
all hands on deck approach from the federal law enforcement
and not the FBI and not the Justice Department, because

(13:38):
they have to be the subject of these investigations. And
you know, there's this Washington way of saying, of course,
you know, we'll just have.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
A special counsel. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
The president has this prerogative exercised by other presidents to
hire and fire prosecutors, and he.

Speaker 10 (13:55):
Should use it. That's what the constitution.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
In my view, he has a positive obligation to get
this done. And you know, and you might like Pam
Bondy and she may be doing good work, and Cash Mattel,
he may be doing good work on a whole host
of issues, but structurally he needs to put in place
something better than the FBI and the Justice Department to
address the threat to the republic.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Uh, Tom, for one second, I hold you get through
this directly, I give you my answer. Let's take a
short commercial break. I want to hold you because this
is important enough. In Cash is our guy in Pam
Bondy tremendous. But there's something time. We are burning daylight.

(14:44):
We're burning daylight. Tom Finton, the amazing Tom Finnon. Short
commercial break. We're going to turn in the warm.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Just a moment, or here's your host, Stephen k Back.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Okay, I'm going to break down and talking about the
bond market a little while. But like our theory of
the case here, the bond market's turfed out more governments
than Howitzer's I think the bond and I say this
because now I've said for years the easy decisions are
behind us. Every decision going forward is going to be

(15:27):
a tough decision. Every decision going forward is going to
have some pain to it, folks, if you want to
sort this crisis out, and the bond market is going
to get a vote, The bond market got to vote
this week.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Note to self.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
So let's be here in this show for working class
people and for middle class people. And that's why CNN
poll shows that working class people come more to the
Republican Party because the Republican Party, at least some element
of us, the populist nationalist wing of it, will have
a frank conversation with working class people. Because they're kind
of the embedded with them of the nation, and we're

(16:02):
not here to fool them. There's a situation on tech
that I think we just blinked has come across the
Bloomberg terminal, but it's because of the bond market. I'm
going to get to the second gold and this is
why for the last four years, I hate to be blunt,
but I'll be blunt. We've been ahead of this for
a long time. This is why I we teamed up with
Birch Gold a long time ago to explain to people

(16:23):
the situation about the prim reserve currency, the US dollar,
and what it means in the world economic system, and
how much the ability of our leads to game the
system depends upon that, and why that has responsibilities. Why
that being the prime reserve currency has responsibilities. Number one,

(16:44):
is this the whole military situation we got ourselves into.
Gold exploded over the last week. It's not the price
of goal. We're not here to say, look at the
price of goal, go buy gold. It's going to go higher.
We never say that.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
The point.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
The point is for you, just like everything else in
the show, your agency, for you to learn what drives
gold is a store value in a hedge against financial turbulence,
and folks, we're going to have financial turbulence like crazy.
Why because President Trump is trying to reorganize the world's
economic order to make sure we go back to American

(17:22):
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Speaker 6 (17:40):
It's going to gold is going to fluctuate, but you
need to know the converging forces and back of that. Also,
the Bricks have a huge conference in July, and the
Birch Gold guys are going to go attend that as
our representatives to report their life. Because remember as I
get into the Chinese companist party in the second hour
of the show, they're leading weapon. One of their leading
weapons is a d dollarization program to de dollarize the

(18:04):
nations of the world and to make sure that we're
left kind of holding the bag, which right now, if
we got off us being the primer serve currency, it
would be we would be like Argentina back in the
old days with one hundred and fifty percent inflation. Taje
Gil this morning, because I was gonna have a nice
morning breaking down the HBO special last night, the HBO

(18:24):
Bill Marshall. We're not doing that because we got so
much going on. I got so many people stacked up
that we got to get on here for breaking news
from everywhere, from about the Persian nuclear situation to what's
happening with China.

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Speaker 6 (23:00):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. Taje Gil, thank you, sir,
appreciate it. I think I got to work that date out.
I think I gotta worked that special. Maybe these ought
to be extended, but we'll talk about that after the show.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Remember he's a Navy seal, okay. Jeff Davis, by the way.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Get a couple of hot cup of coffee now because
you're a need for the rest of the show. Jeff Davis, Uh,
South Carolina at griever.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
How is this?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
You're one of the MAGA leaders down there? How is
President Trump's You saw the Harry Enton CNN where President
Trust's been able to shift the mega movesmentill shift the
Republican Party to be a working class party, and it
shocks CNN it's shocked the Democrats. How is President Trump's
program to date playing down in the great state of

(23:47):
South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Well, Steve, as you and I have talked about a
text about it, it's playing perfectly with the citizens. The
citizens here in the in the state of South Carolina.
They're good, hard working, god fearing publicans, conservatives.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
But the problem is, and it's exactly what Tom.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Finton was saying earlier in the earlier two segments, is
the leadership and the people that are running the state.
And quite frankly, the establishment of the Republican Party has
not the bag of movement has skipped.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Past South Carolina in that respect.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
We have been rated by Seapack as the most liberal
red state in the nation. We literally, I'm a tax
attorney CPA, we literally have the highest marginal tax rate
in the entire Southeast. They literally came out with a
plan to lower and flatten our tax our income tax rates. Well,
when you actually got into the numbers, they ended up

(24:40):
increasing sixty the tax the tax burden on sixty percent
of the lower income side of the table. So the
problem is, just like you guys were talking about on
the national level, y'all were working with Trump and trying
to push things down. We're trying to work from the
bottom up and push things up because we got we've

(25:01):
got to do so much more on the on the
lower level than I think even it even goes on on.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
The national level.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
We came out with a survey last week that you know,
the state of South Carolina has fifteen government employees per
a thousand citizens. The state of Florida has four government
employees for the thousand citizens. We've got a problem here
in South Carolina, and we're trying to push back really
hard and to support what you're doing on the national level,
we need to be doing it on the state level,

(25:29):
and we probably need to be doing it in all
fifty states.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
The same problem is going on all across the country.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
No, no, this is you're you're you're another example of Texas.
But here's an understand the base down there. You don't
have a more fired up, more dedicated President Trump mag
of movement than in South Carolina among the people.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Why is it we just got complements?

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Why is it not filtered up to the state level
and even to some of your federal I don't want
to get into you know, name and names with some
of your you know, some of your own federal rep presentatives.
What's the problem down there?

Speaker 7 (26:02):
Well, I don't mind naming names, and I think you're
talking about Lindsey Graham, who's up for election in twenty
twenty six But the problem is, quite frankly, South Carolina
is first in the South for president.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Picking presidential candidates.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
South Carolina is where Trump won in twenty twenty sixteen.
South Carolina where Trump won in twenty twenty four where
we stop NICKI Haley, our former governor here in South Carolina.
But that's the type of legislators we have, the Nicky Haley's,
the Lindsey Grahams of the world. And because of the
because political consulting class that's here in the state, there

(26:41):
is so much money that comes in here, and there's
the political consultants that are sitting here managing this and
as you know, the political consultants, it's easy to sell
out to the money special interest and that's what our
government here in the state of South Carolina's doing.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
We had the nation's worst rate school choice program.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
I mean, I mean at the median level. We spend
at about number twenty five of all fifty states in
the country on education. However, you know, we're number forty seven,
so we're always thankful for Mississippi, but I think Mississippi's
being us nowadays on the education level. So I mean,
it's the problem is that Trump agenda has not filtered

(27:19):
into the government, into the political establishment here, and that's
what we're trying to work on.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And Steve, and I know you haven't.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Mentioned it yet, but you're going to be down here
at our Greenville County Republican Party convention. We represent about
twelve percent of the state and you'll be here Monday
speaking to the convention, and I hope we'll be pushing
a hard message of let's get the Trump agenda infiltrated
into our government in our political.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Establishment here in the state of South Carolina. And I
will give one other note for you just to know
how bad it is.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Our current state party chairman is gentleman by the name
of Drew McKissick. And if you recognize that name, he
was the co chair with Rona McDaniel. That's what that's
the type of state party we're still dealing with down here.
We've rid of Rona Andrew McKissick on the national level.
Trump fired them last February of twenty twenty four, but

(28:12):
we still got to fire and Drew McKissick here in
the state of South Carolina.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Is there any way people can still attend? Is there
a place they can go to? You can send them
right now with thirty seconds left if they want attend
on Monday, or you close down tickets sales.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
No, we want as many.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
This is going to be the biggest Magni America first
event in the state of South Carolina. Come to Greenville
gop dot com. Greenville gop dot com. It's either on
our Facebook or on the website with Instagram true social,
but there we a link there to purchase tickets and
just contact us. We would like as many people to come.

(28:48):
We've got vendors set up. Doors open at four o'clock
and you hopefully will be hit in the air about
seven to fifteen.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah, Jeff, Jeff, just hang on one second.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm gonna hold you through the break.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You know, we are watching autocracy. We are watching an
autocrat try to take over the government. And there's a
reason that they're targeting grad students, people who've written op ads,
people who have political views. They don't like judges. I mean,
this is this is a war.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
On speaker.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
Her.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'll play the again later.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Her grandfather was Howard Fast that wrote Spartacus and many others,
and I believe was blackball in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Did not go to prison. I don't think like Ring Lardner.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
Who preceded me at Danbury, he went for the same thing,
contempted Congress.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Back then it was a felony, not a misdemeanor.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Tom Finton, this is incredibly important. It's not just about
the EPs, steam files or other things. You got to
pull the camera back and I want you to repeat it.
The FBI and the DOJ came that close within a
micro millimeter of jailing President Trump.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And not just not just me and Navarro.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I'm talking about others, but jailing President Trump for twenty
or thirty years for nothing totally made up. This thing
stinks to high Heaven and I one hundred percent. And
it's kind of sad you had to come back a
week after you were on here the first time.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
We need immediately a.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Special counsel designated by the President to report to the
President as the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Heck, we're going to force.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
You're forcing it in the Supreme Court every day being
the chief, you know, the three powers of the unitary theory,
the executive or as the engine room keeps telling me,
it's called Article two. Steve Okay, his Article two powers
as chief Executive, Commander in chief and the chief law
enforcement officer of the United States, which every night on
TV and MSMEBC, is the one that they fear the most. Right,

(30:53):
it's time now to follow what Tom Fitton said. And
it's not that Tom Finton just wandered in and has
some donor to stroke to check and said, hey, I
think this. Tom Finton has been in these trenches for
fifteen plus years. If it was not for Tom Finton,
the Obama administration would have been ten times more out
of control than it was. So Tom, once again, what

(31:14):
is your I just want the audience to know we're
not picking on Cash and PAM. We love Cash and PAM.
But it's obvious running those institutions is a full time job.
This is why they took atf away from Cash. It
wasn't that he was doing a bad job. His play
is full just running it. Pam's is obviously full with
doj but these have to be INVESTIGATD. We have to

(31:37):
do it now, we're Bernie Daylight. It's got to go.
So what is your recommendation, what's your justification?

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Well, there are a few other issues here.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
It's like you know, Christine Ohm for example, she's got
control the border, right, So a country's got to get
control of the border. The people have got to get
control of the border. In order to have a country
that you can actually call a nation state, you also
need to get control of the administrative state. And what
Fast was saying earlier at MSNBC, it's the complete opposite.

(32:08):
Political control of the administrative state has got to be
job number one, two or three for President Trump, and
he's made significant strides there. And in order to achieve that,
which is which really ultimately is democracy, right, the people
control the bureaucracy, not the other way around. The bureaucracies

(32:29):
need to be controllable in terms of budget and size.
And let's stop pretending that the fbis control a bull
in terms of budget and size. Let's stop pretending DJ
is controllable in terms of budget and size. So there
needs to be a a doze approach to both agencies,
and there needs to be an approach, treating them like

(32:50):
Department of Education and DOGE.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
I'd be happy having.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Linda McMahon go over there, because she's been doing this
over at the Education Department. They already we have people
who've kind of gone through this process internally in terms
of managing the decimation of these out of control agencies
in a way that protects the republic, and in terms
of the law fare, there's got to be accountability for it,

(33:15):
because otherwise I don't think you're going to I'm not
worried about Democrats coming in and these agencies getting out
of control and abusing. I'm worried about anyone getting back in.
Remember Trump was almost jailed during the Trump administration. So
it's not a question of the partisan president or the

(33:37):
partisan nature of the president, or the party of the president.
It's a question of are these agencies subject.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
To the rule of law.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
There's no evidence the FBI thinks it's subject to the
rule of law, and the DOJ was an absolute threat
and defends everything by people don't understand the Justice Spartman
defends everything lawless in a government, the federal government, that's
their job. Anytime you have a complain about what the
government does, you can always count.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
The DJ to be there to defend it.

Speaker 9 (34:09):
So there's got to be a kind of an understanding
of what's happening here. And I think Trump understands it,
but he's got a lot of things on his plate.
And this is where Cash, Mattel and Pambondi needed to
take a much more aggressive and expansive understand and have
an expansive understanding in the greater in the in this

(34:31):
great history of the country as to what their.

Speaker 10 (34:33):
Opportunities and roles here are.

Speaker 9 (34:36):
You know, I remember talking to a story and about
what was the difference between the founders and the current
group of politicians, And you know, their their view was
they they understood where they were in history and understood
it very carefully and work to live up to the

(34:57):
historical roles they understood they have. And I think Pam
and Cash understand that somewhat. But it's our role and
the role of citizen ry is the remind him of
that and bolster them.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah it is, but repeat what you said, it's not them.
The point is go.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Back to what you just said, folks.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
You have to understand something that understand our movement and
the revolutionary nature of what we're attempting to do to
restore this to a constitutional republic fit and repeated again.
President Trump was almost jailed by his own Justice Department
in his first term. This just was a Jack Smith
and Lisa Monico. They're all demons. And I don't know

(35:45):
why we don't have a grand jury right now investigating
the whole crap. But the apparatus itself, it's a systemic problem.
It's not just a personnel problem. It's a systemic problem.
It has to be taken apart brick by brick and
the FBI. I don't know why we don't have the
headquarters up for sale. We got to take it apart,
brick by brick, break the thing up into a couple
of pieces, and not I don't think be out, you know,

(36:08):
doing Instagram's about how great they are.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
They're not great.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
And I don't right now, I don't care about arrest
any guys in the top ten most wanted.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's fine, that's fine, go ahead, sir.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Yeah, I mean they had the FBI come to my
house a few years ago to give me a subpoena. Yeah,
I forgive me for thinking this is a little bit personal.
You know, we've worked with the FBI. We you know,
we've we've actually hired former FBI guys. Uh, it's it's
you know, I don't even want to kind of give

(36:38):
credit to the argument will they are good people working
in the FBI.

Speaker 10 (36:41):
That is not the point.

Speaker 9 (36:43):
And there may be good people working in the FBI,
but they are scared in the corner and unable to
do anything. So it's not about them. The culture rewards corruption,
cowardice in terms of ethics and morality.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
That's what we saw.

Speaker 10 (37:02):
That's what we see repeatedly.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
You know, remember we got some and they've got the
FBI has got the best PR operation in Washington, d C.

Speaker 10 (37:11):
Second to none.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
Every foreign government looking for opera, you know, PR operations
in d C. Every corporation they should see look to
see what the FBI had.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
They're untouchable in.

Speaker 9 (37:25):
Terms of oh we do you hear anyone in Congress
talking about defanging the FBI, even cutting a dollar from
the FBI.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
They're they're afreight, they're intimidated. No, they're intimidated. I don't
know why the shows, all these all these shows that
glorify them all be pulled down immediately. It's ridiculous. How
impullant Fitton? Where do people go to follow this? Because
you're like a dog with a bone. Now, you're not
going to get off this, you.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Know, you know, wake up this morning and it's like
Bannon wants you to come on. It's like, doesn't ban
and take a day off. It's Saturday.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's my it's my favorite show. I'm demented working with
you for so many years. I'm demented.

Speaker 10 (38:07):
I have to come on, that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
On my Judicial Watch obviously, and and uh online everywhere
Tom fitting the Judicial Watch.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
There's no one else.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
I hope.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't know, but this is the sad thing. I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
I don't know if I have to go back to
old Breitbart radio days. We used to have you on
and we pitch you as the as the people's Justice Department.

Speaker 12 (38:31):
We're in charge now. We shouldn't have to do this.
This is what's so sad is they have to do
it now. They have to tell us when are the
records coming out? They didn't have to here here's for yesterday.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
One of the key points, uh is that Tom Fitten
sued Trump's first term Justice department more than he sued
and he used to tell me. At the time, he says,
they still was worse than Holder in this crowd. That's
how cropd that space even put in sure go ahead,
we got about.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
I visited with somewhat important you know whose initials are
SB in the White House ones and he told me this,
this SB character, last name Bannon. He said, fitting I'm
trying to get you two things. I'm trying to get
I'm trying to get two things done. I'm trying to
get you your documents and the embassy moved to Jerusalem.

(39:29):
Well you got the embassy moved to Jerusalem.

Speaker 10 (39:33):
We're still waiting.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
And it was easier to do and get out.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
A billion percent a billion percent the two hardest things
we're hold it designating the Musslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And getting fit in his documents.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
I'm telling you that hasn't changed because the apparass hesitates Tom.
What's your what's your social media too? Where do people
go besides you just watch? I'll follow you on Twitter
or anything.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
To get We're on all all the social media platforms.
Judicial watch and I am as well. We've got great
programming on YouTube and rumble, and we.

Speaker 10 (40:08):
Dare I say it. We're still on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Amen.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
We'll figure that one out to this and a whole
nother development with big tech where hopefully.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Get into you got jammed in. We're slammed this morning.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Finton, love you brother, keep fighting all right, thank you.
Grace will push this out. Grace will push this out hard.
Everybody's got to see this more with sorrow than anger.
We got to do it. Special counsel has got to
be named directly report to President Trump or burning daylight.
FBI has got to be taken apart. DJ, that's a

(40:43):
nest of vipers over there. Just obviously just a senior
management change is not going to do it. Folks, short
commercial break back in the worm in a moment.

Speaker 13 (41:01):
Use your Stephen Kback, Jeff Davis, everybody in the local
area that can make you down there.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
I want to make sure they get there and I'll
be doing a shaking a few hands, taking a few photos.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Also, So where do people go? One more time?

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Sir again, greenvillegp dot com or on social media Facebook, Instagram,
true social under Greenville gop dot com.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Tickets are still available.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
We are one of the very few county conventions which
are open to the public. Doors open at four o'clock.
We've got vendors. It will be a big Maga movement.
We'll gavel in.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
At six point thirty.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
We've got a couple speakers, including Curtis LOFTUS our State
treasure and then it'll.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Be the Steve Bannon Show.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
So we're we're we are war rooms South Carolina, as
you can tell. And we are so excited to have
you joining us. So green go to Greenville gop dot com. Everybody.
We have people from North Carolina, Georgia coming and I
think as far away as Texas.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Wow, amazing, Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
Look forward to seeing By the way, your personal your
your personal social media?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
What is where do people go for that?

Speaker 7 (42:16):
We follow We've got our nonprofit and our five one
C four it's my sc g o P dot news.
That's where we put all the information out there in
our social media.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
But my m Y S c G O P.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Thank you, thank you brother, appreciate it. Look forward to
see you.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Look for to seeing you Patriots on on on on Monday.
By the way, a lot of patriots in Beverly Hills
gave a talk on on Thursday night to just an
incredible group of patriots. And then Bill Moore of the
Shakra last night, his discussion about President Trump in the
White House was quite frankly extraordinary, and we're going to
figure out how to break it down on Monday, ubi Ube,

(42:57):
Sean Bandhar helping Rick Cornell, a bessor. Rick Krnell, you're
an expert on what's going on, I guess today in Oman,
but it's really about Tehran. President Trump once again says, hey,
and you kind of called the shot when you're here
a couple of months weeks ago. It got to be
direct negotiations.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
And that means the.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Israelis are out of the way. Really, the Omani's out
of the way, the Saudi's out of the way. This
is the United States right to the Persians. This is
so important for people because we've got two carried battle
groups down the Red Sea kind of for this from
bomb and the hutis kind of for this. Tell me
what's going on today, Sir Witkoff's down there over there.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
This is this is as big as it gets, is
it not?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, that's right. This is a really big deal.

Speaker 14 (43:40):
There are ongoing negotiations right now from President Trump's Middle
East envoy Seve Witkoff, who's meeting with ay Atola Hahnani's
envoys in the neutral country of Oman in the Arabian
Gulf region.

Speaker 15 (43:55):
Now what's happening here is now President Trump sent a
letter directly in March to the Supreme Leader of Iran.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I told Hamanian, and.

Speaker 15 (44:05):
He's actually told him, you either engage in direct negotiations
with my representatives to figure out a way where Iran
can thrive but does not have a pathway to build
a nuclear bomb, or you face direct and very severe repercussions.
That letter went out in March, and now you have

(44:26):
negotiations with President Trump's senior envoy along with kamans senior
envoys in Oman. Why because President Trump has the Iyotola rattled.
We know this because of leaks in the media that
some of Kamanian's was senior advisors a few weeks ago
sat down with them and told them, hey, we are

(44:49):
facing an economic implosion because of President Trump's maximum pressure
campaign that he officially issued back in February with that
executive memory, and that is starving Iran of its ability.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
To export its oil to China.

Speaker 15 (45:06):
In fact, according to some of the commodity data, that
we're seeing here. Since January, Iran is exported about a
one point six million barrels of oil to China.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Some of the data analysts are saying that that could go.

Speaker 15 (45:19):
Down by around half a million barrels because of the
new sanctions that President Trump has issued and that is
hitting Chinese refineries and crude oil storage facilities.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
So Iran is essentially but hang on, but ube, but Ube,
but ube Hango for a second. This is what I
made on the thing the other day, is that you're
not gonna be have a military situation here. We can't
get dragging me that again. But it's one point six
to two million? Why why is it not zero? The
Chinese chemist parties are enemy that the Tehran to Beijing
access is because we're in negotiations for a rap proschmon

(45:54):
with the Russians right now to break that stranglehold in
the Eurasian land mass.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Why are we not even look.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
I spent some time in the Navy in the North
Arabian Sea in the Persian golf with carrier battle groups
during the Iranian hostage crisis. I don't know the United
States Navy. Hey, if they're keeping the Red Sea Lane
open to Suez Canal. We could shift those battle groups
over there and stop every vessel coming out of the
Straits or hermus out of the Persian golf and stop

(46:21):
and boredom. And if they got oil for China they
turn them back. We could cut that to zero. We
could bring the Persians to the knees. Economically, we could
also seize the assets. Hell, they're commaning. These guys, they
own a third They're only a back of the Arabs,
the Chinese, and the Russian oligarchs in the West End
of London.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
They owned some of the best real estate in the world.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Why are we not, Why are we not taking hard
core sanctions that really would choke these guys down and
bring them to the table, to the on their knees.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Sir, I think we're getting there.

Speaker 15 (46:51):
President Trump has issued a number of sanctions on what's
called Iran's shadow fleet.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
In fact, just a few days before the on going
talks in Oman, the Trump.

Speaker 15 (47:02):
Administration issued a new set of sanctions that are specifically
targeting the individuals that the ship builder builders that own
these fleet of ships that conduct what's called ship to
ship transfers out in the Arabian Sea and the Gulf
of Ahman. Basically it's smuggling oil, you know, and that
is really hurting Iran.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Look, give you an example.

Speaker 15 (47:23):
You have a severe water shortage and electricity electricity shortage
in Tehran that's forced government office to close down and
schools to close down for like two to three days.
And we're not even in the summer yet. So that
what we do know is that Atola Hamania's senior advisors
are telling them, hey, we cannot afford a conflict that

(47:43):
might lead to the collapse of the Iranian regime. And
we do know that the Israelis were fueled up and
ready to strike Iran's underground nuclear facilities in the four
Doah and the Tons area back in March.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Then, but then I know, but that ain't happening. That's
what BB's come over a couple of times. He came
over and talk about that is not going to happen.
We're adamantly posed to that, adamantly opposed to that, and
that's why.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
BB came twice.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
You do that, you're gonna get sucked into a Middle
East war that's going to be without end. So hang
on for a second, because I want to talk about
verification versus taking this thing apart. Short commercial break. We're
gonna get into it. The Persians, the Chinese, the bond market.
Take out your number two princil. We're working on a
Saturday morning here in the war, and I'm gonna leave

(48:30):
you with the right stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
We're gonna be back in two minutes.
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