THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4436)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, APRIL 24TH, 2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
A list of things for myself that Donald Trump was
not dealt a bad hand on China. Donald Trump dealt
himself a bad hand on China. Okay, so here's one.
He enacted tariff to threaten to tank the economy, so
that creates risk for him. He backed China into a corner,
which every person, every treasure that you have known over

(00:21):
twenty years will tell you the first thing you don't
do is back China into a corner. He made the
Fed incapable of responding, so the Fed can't help. He's
tanked the markets the bottom of the dollar, and there's
no endgame and no plan here. So five cards, five
lousy cards. He dub himself a two, three, four, five seven,
all unsuited essentially is what he did right there. So

(00:44):
it's a good thing that China has said it's open
to negotiations. But the question becomes trying to think of
a metaphor for this step. And he tell me if
this is the right way to think about it. The
guy stole your wallet and your necklace, and he says,
let's talk about it. And he says, I'll give you
back your wallet. Said no, give me back the wallet

(01:05):
and the necklace. And the reason that metaphor may work
is because Donald Trump invented these tariffs that he put
on China as being commensurate with the tariffs that China
put on us.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
They're not true.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
He completely made them up with a formula that we
believe Peter Navarro invented. So I don't think I don't
know that China comes to the table without saying, get
rid of this nonsense and then we'll talk.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I mean, are the markets up too much? Should people
be selling if they believe that?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's irrelevant to me the daily trading of the stock extraction,
it's irrelevant. The Chinese Communist Party has been at economic
war with us for twenty years, and if you look
at what they've broken, they've gained the World Trade Organization
Most Favored Nation, the cyber Deal. Obama go with them
in twenty fifteen. They never lived up to the Hong

(01:56):
Kong In twenty nineteen, they walked away. President Trump worked
for two years with Leitthheiser, had that amazing deal, took
all the seven original sins of the Chinese companies, party,
economics away and integrated us into a total global economy.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
And they walked away.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Leehu and the team walked away in twenty nineteen, and
so you see what's happened.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
They're at war with us. They've planned for this, but.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
So this yesterday says that he is going to be
nice to them. That he I mean, is there a
turn here, because it really looks like he is walking
back from this.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I don't think there's a climb down.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
There's a fact right when we walked in here, Caroline
Levit came in. So it's not going to be any
unitary unilateral walked down right.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
To fifty percent.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Now, I will tell you by President Trump, he went
up the esculatory ladder quickly right to one twenty five
and one forty five. But this is a long, tough process.
So I think people trading on this every day. It's
just the computers or the algorithms or folks. I think
you have to see that he's bound in determine to
number one, treat this as a premium market where if

(03:01):
you don't bring your manufacturing back here, you're going to
have to pay a premium to get to this market,
like you buy a premium skybox at a sporting event
or front row at a concert.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
He sees a premium.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
If you bring your manufacturing back, it's a different deal.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
But this is a long, tough fight is not going
to be solved, you know. And the media is running
around the.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Market stock market this it's it's very complicated and we're
dug in and it's a battle between two systems.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
If you think their system is going to win, your
kidding yourself. It's not.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
We're going to win this. The American people are going
to win it. In lal Baijing, the common man in
China is.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Going to win it.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Also, we had we had Fergus in here earlier talking
about that. So I guess on the other side of
the ledger in a way, on the cut side. On
the test learnings called yesterday, Elon Musk said, you can
start to step away from his government work.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Have you won like that? That foot it's not about personalities, right.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I do support those because you've got to deconstruct the administrator. Say,
if you want to get to deregulation, you have to
deconstruct this choking administrative state that the constitution the founder's
never thought of.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think with Elon what I do think we have
to do, and we have.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
To be very specific before he leaves to go back
to Tesla. Oh, there's going to hang around part time.
We need to have an accounting. He's questioning the integrity
of the system. Okay, like Treasury is six point five
trillion dollars. They can't find all this Social Security IRS.
We need to have a very specific accounting of what

(04:38):
he found as far as fraud goes and waste and
I mean details.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Treasury's got to sign off that O and B. He's
got to sign off in every department head. We need
to know exactly what it found.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Because he went from two tree in a year to
one TRAE in a year, to one hundred and fifty
billion dollars next year with nothing this year. None of
this makes sense. The cuts you've seen that have been
announced are programmatic. Whether it's USAID or DOE that's a
totally different thing.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
And on on the DOGE effort overall. In this interview
with the Semaphore said, and I thought this was notable.
He said, we need to have a very specific accounting
of what he found as far as fraud goes and
waste and I mean details. He said, quote, none of
this makes sense, And he says he wants to see
a letter of certifications showing that no one has taken
any data from the administration or from the government.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Yeah, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with
Steve Bannon on that. I think it's going to show
he did a lot of handwaving and not much else.
I mean, he obviously was making great like he does
with everything. He always says, you know, there's going to
be a ROBOTAXI this week, and of course he hasn't
had one, and Google's been operating one for years. I
riding them in San Francisco. He does this all the
time in his businesses. This is going to happen next year,

(05:48):
next year, next year. And I think he made a
lot of over promised here and under delivered. And so
I think Bannon's Oh God, I can't believe I'm saying this.
So Bannon's correct. There should be an accounting of what
he found and not and and checked out, because everything
that gets checked out by people like David Fahrenhold the
New York Times seems to be not real, Like it
wasn't savings, it wasn't real savings.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
And as I said.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Before, the only thing this is kind of proving is
that maybe the government is working a little better than
it should.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's actually smaller.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Than it was thirty years ago, and there's more people
it's serving. So I don't know. I think we need
an accounting of it, and we have to make sure
the data that he's been bringing together is not gone
off somewhere, is not within anything he has. And that's
going to be difficult because they let people, including Scott Besst.

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They let Musk's troops run rampant within these systems without
enough security, and that's been warned over and over again
by people in the government.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Also, I think we have to have a letter of
certification that not one data set or piece of data
of the United States government or citizens of this country
are withheld or held by anybody or any copies held
except for the Trump administration in the US government.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
And that has to happen, I think in the month
of men and it.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Sounds like you don't trust him not to take data.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Trust but verify.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
Today the Wall Street Journal reported that the White House
is considering slashing tariffs on China to de escalate the
trade war, in some cases by more than half. That
still gets you above fifty percent, and the problem is
don't get too excited. The president has not made a
final decision. Plus, while the White House sends mixed signals
on whether or not there are active talks with the Chinese,

(07:33):
the Wall Street Journal is reporting that there actually is
a delegation of Chinese officials, including the Finance Minister and
governor of the People's Bank of China in DC right now,
but they have not scheduled any meetings with the administration,
and they're supposed to leave tomorrow. Sources say that could
change if they do get meetings with White House officials.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
And secondly, would you support a millionaire ticks?

Speaker 7 (07:55):
I think it would be very disruptive because a lot
of the millionaires would leave the country.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, the old days, they left stakes so you
go from one state to the other.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Now, with transportation so quick and so easy, they leave countries.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
You lose a lot of.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Money if you do that.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
That would and other countries that have done it have
lost a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
They lose their wealthy people.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
If that would be bad because the wealthy people paid
the taxing.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And here's the thing. The alternative the populist nationalists.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Offer is an alternative that you can see the sunlit upwards.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Tons of change has to happen.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
But the alternative, I'm telling you is this Luigi the
looks he's treated like a hero, He's treated like Robin Hood.
That should scare you to the mirror of your bones,
because that's the alternative. If the system keeps going like
it is, that alternative is your alternative.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
We offer the populace.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Nationals offer something you're not going to love, but you'll
be able to live with.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
This is the primal scream of a dining regime.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people. You're not going to free shot all these
networks lying about the people.

Speaker 10 (09:10):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 8 (09:20):
Mega media?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 8 (09:37):
War Room, use your host Stephen k Man.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
Thursday, April twenty four, April year Older twenty twenty five
Today in the Imperial Capital. The kinetic part. Let's take
all three, remember the central verticals of President Trump, plus
the additional fourth of the administrative state and the deep state.
Let's go with the kinetic part of the Third World War,

(10:08):
which President Trump is leading an effort to bring peace
to both the Middle East and peace to Ukraine by
dealing with the Russians.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
The Russians.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I think we'll have some footage in a little while
putin in. The Russians dropped a sledgehammer on Kiv last
night in an attack. President Trump's just put out moments
before we came on air saying, hey, this is not
going to wash. This thing must stop now. So President
Trump is deep into settling and sorting out the kinetic

(10:43):
part of the Third World War, because folks were in
the Third World where you could see that. Yesterday, I
was trying to tell at the World Economic Conference, and
that is the guys over at Somemophore, Ben Smith and
those guys, and they should be applauded for having me speak,
because you don't have a lot of populaistion nationalists invited
there to talk, and that is a room full of globalists.

(11:03):
Those are the people that control the money that makes
the world work as it works today. And Ben was
I thought, very generous, good questions, and let me get
answers out. On the second part, the deportations, we're going
to have Todd Benson's going to joins to the bottom
of the hour because the reality of this guy that

(11:25):
they're saying needs to have due process and hearings everything
is a human smuggler. He was caught by Tennessee. He
was caught by Tennessee police, and he is part of
a human trafficking gang out of Houston. Obvious, that's where
the democratic part. And this is how radical they are.
But their strategy is smart from what they're trying to accomplish,

(11:51):
and this is what we have to understand. They're trying
to slow us down and slow the present down, to
delay us tonight. Now they're doing it across all these
federal urisdictions. And now they've got a little savvy. They've
backed off of doing the countrywide injunction, so the TIRO
somewhat in Denver they just filed the other day for

(12:11):
the gang in Colorado. I gave that speech out there
to the Colorado GOP. It was one of the top
of my things for those folks, how Colorado is being
terrorized by this by the Venezuelan gang. The judge is
now given a stay for twenty one for deportations. There
what is going on and it's obvious they're trying to

(12:31):
force a constitutional crisis day. The opposition is trying to
force a constitutional crisis at the Supreme Court level to
force President Trump's hands on deportations of the ten million
ladies and gentlemen. We're never going to get to the
ten million. The ten million have.

Speaker 10 (12:48):
To leave the country.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
The Wall Street guys are going to say it's impossible
because they add to GDP, it's going to kicks in
a recession. The corporate guys saying, you can't do it
because it's it's lowered inflation.

Speaker 10 (12:58):
Because it lowered wages.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
You're going to have every intellectual argument in the world.
And now they're going to force us. And this is
why d C. Draino yesterday with that magnet, were two
days ago, with that magnificent putting on the table like
in the war room.

Speaker 10 (13:13):
We put ideas out there and then.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
Develop those ideas, the rid of habeas corpus.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
They're going to force.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Trump's hand like they tried to force Andrew Jackson's hand,
and a little known story, they try to force Abraham
Lincoln's hand because Abraham Lincoln, for.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
As much as people admire him and what he'd.

Speaker 9 (13:39):
Accomplished, he ran the Civil War as a warlord. As
a warlord. They're trying to force a constitutional crisis in.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
The middle of this.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
We have an economic and financial crisis, and we need
to stop the happy talk.

Speaker 10 (13:56):
The moment is now.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
And this show and this audience, and I'm going to
speak some hard truths, but hard truths that have to
be spoken today.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
If we.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
Make these decisions, let's make sure we make them consciously
and like with intent. Just like Donald Trump came back
from mar Lago to get into the race to take
back the presidency in the White House understanding everything that
was before him, we have to be that conscious of
these decisions.

Speaker 10 (14:29):
We cannot happy talk ourselves.

Speaker 9 (14:31):
And all I'm hearing here in Capitol Hill is nothing
but spin and happy talk of people who do not
want to face the crisis we are in regarding spending.
Johnny con is going to take us out. We're packed
all day to day in the war room. Short commercial
break back in.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
A moment, here's your host, Stephen k back.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
The breaking news. President Trump is going to sign a
executive order today targeting Act Blue. Natalie Winters called shot
for Natalie Winners, who, by the way, is on page
one of the style section of the of the fake
news failing New York Times with an incredible article about

(15:33):
her work here at the Worm and at the White House.

Speaker 10 (15:37):
And I'm going to address the Mike.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
Mike Davis is coming on at eleven o'clock with some
additional stuff going on with the oligarchs. And I realized, people,
you know who, you love the Viceroy, maybe are not
a static about the interview last night about the Justice Department.
There's a method to our madness here, just trying to say, Look,
I think it's the bottom line. Let's cut to the chase.
The Justice Department is so overwhelmed you think of this

(16:01):
e on them and others. I think it just calls
You've got to get a special prosecutor. You have to
have a special counsel that reports directly to the White
House in the opposite of the President. Look, if we're
gonna call their bluff on Article two powers chief executive,
he can cut people into or cut money. And they're
going to do some impollments or I think they're going

(16:21):
to start with recisions. It's gonna be a nine billion
dollar decision that comes up in the next ten days.
But impoundment's about and this is part of the doche thing.
I think there's some impellments. I think there's some impollments there,
and that'll all have to go go up, you know,
on the boards.

Speaker 10 (16:37):
He's got that power's commander in chief.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
This is what they're forcing the constitutional crisis at the
Supreme Court. Write this down. They're forcing this. I can
see their plan right now. They are going to call
our bluff on the Article two powers. On the unitary theory,
the executive is commander in chief. In this situation with
this guy and Todd Benson, we're going to force him.

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They're going to embrace the fact that he's a human trafficker.
Because I've hed to come up with the Deep States
National Intelligence estimate that says it's phony that snuck through
Tulci Gabbert. It turns out I believe she's turned over
three senior intelligence officials foreign investigation to DOJ and I
don't think it's related to this. I thought so yesterday maybe,

(17:25):
but we got to find out who did that. This
thing is building to a a crescendo.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You're gonna be You're gonna have ringside seats.

Speaker 9 (17:34):
We don't need anybody up on the ramparts quite yet
because we've got to work out the battle plan. But
this one's coming. It's to stop the mass deportations of
the ten million. Right they wanted first of they want
as many gangsters and criminals in here as possible, don't
get me wrong, But their big goal is to stop
the deportation is a ten million. They're going to force
him to go Andrew Jackson, which is okay, I read

(17:58):
the I read your opinion now in four So that's coming, folks.

Speaker 10 (18:03):
This act blues.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
But you can't what we're looking for and what I
think is necessary in the world of Tom Finton and
people like that in this audience is there's too much.
They're overwhelmed over DJ. They just got the huge story today.
Harmeie Dylan's over the civil rights of this division. There's
already a revolt against Harmeat because she's over there with

(18:23):
that nest of vipers. Particularly that's the Election Fraud Division.
At the same time, the Anti Trust is on fire
because they cleaned out Oh Meet and Gail Slater, who
are just doing a magnificent job. But David's going to
be on here to talk to you about how people
trying to end run that, these lobbyists.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
To get to the president.

Speaker 9 (18:44):
That it's what's happening in this capital right now on
every different vertical is all at warfare, absolute warfare, trying
to blunt President Trump from achieving his objectives.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
That's right in the cold open. I wanted you to hear.

Speaker 9 (19:01):
What they're saying, like particularly on China, and China's coming
too a showdown. Gas Barino has just got a tweet
out that says, hey, India maybe the template or Japan,
but it looks like Besson's got Japan, Korea, Vietnam, a
bunch of holding patterns looking for an architecture of.

Speaker 10 (19:18):
A memorandum of understanding.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
And that memorandum of understanding would be that you know,
in the site and I had the the and I
don't have my FT from that day. Sover at my
other desk, which showed the retaliation the CCP is going
to do against countries that buy into that architecture. India
maybe the farthest down. India is a complicated one because
India is not the best when it comes to their

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terrorists how we're treated. So it's going to be quite interesting.
What I said to the folks, you actually to this
with the stock market up or down? You know it's
up or down. Hey, it's a casino. This is Jack
Posobic this warning to me, it's a casino.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
We don't care.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
We don't care the role of roulette table every day
that's not urgent. The bond market is different because we
borrow so much money we're jammed in.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
This gets back to the discussion we have to get
on the table.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
The big beautiful bill.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
You got to break it down into kind of pieces
that lead up to the big beautiful Bill. First off,
number one, there's they're coming out now with they're going
to add one hundred to one hundred and fifty billion
dollars to the eight hundred and eighty or nine hundred
billion dollars already in the Defense Authorization. And this is
why Pete's tweeting out in all caps excited. It's a

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trained dollar defense bill. So riddle me this. This is
I'm confused about this. Why do we have two carrier
battlegroups and a carry a battlegroup. Just you understand, it's
got an aircraft carrier worth an air wing on it.
The whole purpose of this is the projection of American
power ashore to one keep the skies clear so that

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then fighter bombers can go across and deliver payloads on
bad guys or people that.

Speaker 10 (21:06):
Are enemies of this country.

Speaker 9 (21:09):
That whole battlegroup, it's got cruisers, it's got destroyers, it's
got frigates. I was honored to be a junior officer
on a destroyer in these carrier battlegroups in the Pacific
and inn places like the North Arabian Sea and the
Persian Gulf.

Speaker 10 (21:23):
Although the carriers don't go in there, thank god.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
The destroyers and frigates do.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
But you got supply ships, you have oilers, you have
all of it. Huge amount of ships, right, I don't
know ten thousand sailors.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
Let's say.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
In addition, you have submarines, nuclear power, submarines in direct support,
fast attack, not boomers, fast attack and direct support. These
are big complicated war systems of everything from aviation to
submarine warfare to surface warfare, you know, missiles, guns, air defense, everything.

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That's the projection of American power. That is, since the
Second World War in the Pacific, not in the Atlantic.
In the Pacific, that has been the basic building block
of American projection of power. And to keep the ceilings
open we are in so riddle me this. In the
Red Sea we have two carried but not one. We
have two, and we're bombing the Juties. Why we're bombing

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the Jutes. They're an ally, They're a proxy like Hesblah
for the Persians, and they're on the Arabian Peninsula and
both the Saudi Arabia and UAE who have failed to
remove these guys after.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Decades and decades and decades.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
And I'm not putting the toll blame on them because
the Egyptians tried for ten years and got wiped. It
was their Vietnam back in the sixties and seventies. The
Houties are tough ombras. They're kind of like the North Vietnamese, right,
live on very little and fight you to the death.
You meet a lot of these groups around the world,
right you get the bat with son Zu said, they're

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on the death ground, so they got no place.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
To back up.

Speaker 9 (22:58):
They know that that if you succeed, they're finish, so
they're going to fight you to the best, and they're
given as good as they get over there. They already
took down an F sixteen. Until you read the combat reports,
see these guys going for these runs. It's not the best.
But we're sitting there on a one treeon dollar defense budget,
which is a centerpiece of the discretionary spending of this

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out of control spending of the six and a half
or seven tree, and that we're adding with assuming nine,
we're adding one hundred and fifty billion dollars for more weapons,
more toys, and we're keeping open the sea lanes of
the Red Sea to the Suez Canal, which opens up
coming from the Persian Gulf through the Suez Canal to Europe.
Only three percent of the trade comes through the Red

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Sea of the Seuez Now that goes to the United
States of America. The rest of it goes to Europe.
And we're in the process of negotiating deals with these
guys that were upside down on commercial relationships with Germany
in Italy in Italy Politico, I'll get it next thing.
What have we said on this show about Maloney in

(24:02):
Italy in NATO leads Storing Politico this morning on the
European edition was how Italy's not going to get to
the two percent of GDP for defense spending?

Speaker 10 (24:13):
We told you never going to get there.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
And the accounting gimmicks they've got that they exposed is ridiculous.
As we told you they're not paying for the defense.
Why there's too much pressure for the broken healthcare service?

Speaker 10 (24:23):
We told you this years ago. And I don't want
to hear about Maloney as.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
The Trump whisperer.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
President Trump and Waltz has said they want Europe up
the five percent of GDP.

Speaker 10 (24:35):
I think we're three and a half.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
They wanted five percent because they're so underinvested for years.
Italy's note two percent And you and your kids are
keeping with two carrier battlegroups. You have to think through
the world system and how central the United States of
America is, and most importantly, how central the deplorables are
in their kids that your kids, your sons and daughters

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are on those battlegroups. And yes, I understand the Navy
has a mission to keep the ceilings open. Hell, that's
what I did as a young man. Right, there's more
defined than because of the Soviets, the Bolsheviks were at
where the Cold War with us with nuclear missiles kind
of you know.

Speaker 10 (25:22):
Pointing to each other.

Speaker 9 (25:24):
But there has to be This is why the hemispheric
defense is so brant. Yet we have a total mismatch.
Pete brother, love you. We're fixed band nets to make
sure they don't run you out of there because you're
the man.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
But you gotta get.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Control of the building, because the building runs the deal.
The building is the defense contractors. And all these original
gangster generals and colonels have been there forever and are
going to go work for the defense contractors right after
it's And I don't fault them for that. They've spent
their entire adulthood service to their country. They've been underpaid
that entire time. They got to make a little money,

(25:56):
I got it, But it sets up a system.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Did Elon not break his pick on that?

Speaker 9 (26:01):
Remember we kept saying cross the Potomac, Cross the Potomac,
Cross Potomac, because you can't talk about fraud and waste
and abuse seriously, in this town unless you're gonna go
with the Pentagon. And you know what's happened since he
went over there. Crickets because they're tough ombrace. They're tougher
than the houties right particular when it comes to spending money,

(26:22):
your money. So I said, yes, stay in front of
this ward looking. The system we have is not sustainable.
Our alternative makes it sustainable. But if you continue on
the path, you're gonna get Luigi, and Luigi's gonna be gun.
It is gonna be gunning for those people in that audience,

(26:43):
which I think the audience understood what I was saying.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
They took it to heart.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
Let's say we're gonna show you the madness. Todd Bensman
the best we got to use.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
Todd Bowie, got it.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
Todd Bensman's gonna be here and walk you through something.

Speaker 10 (26:57):
Your head's gonna blow up in.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
A here's your host, Stephen k Back.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
So I want to read this from the President of
the United States. I'm not happy with the Russian strikes
on Kiev. Not necessary and very bad timing. Vladimir stop.
Five thousand soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the
peace deal done. Now there's been another announce I haven't
seen a formal announcement. I asked my crack staff to
check this out.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Is the.

Speaker 9 (27:31):
About the associated joint press conference tomorrow was Zelensky and
the President Trump?

Speaker 10 (27:35):
I'm seeing that across. I don't know if that's accurate
or not. Can we check that out?

Speaker 9 (27:39):
That would mean Zelensky would be coming here because the
President doesn't leave for Rome until Friday night. Nothing, okay,
I'm seeing that. I thought it sounds screwy, but you
never know. Things are moving rapidly in an accelerating pace.
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Speaker 2 (28:32):
But go check it out now.

Speaker 9 (28:35):
So I talked about the verb of President Trump right
there on the Third World War and the negotiations for
the kinetic part. We're in the Third World War, I
told these guys yesday, and they know it. The Chinese
Commanies Party has been engaged in an economic war. And
that's why I walked through everything they broke. They we
got them in the World Trade Organization. We gave the
most favorite native status and they stiffed us. And they've
stolen six hundred bion dollars a year of intellectual property

(28:58):
six hundred bion a year stolen or forced and joined ventures.
They have Obama's big cyber deal he signed, they never
lived up to any of it. Joe Biden the Hong
Kong which he gave seventy years of freedom. On twenty nineteen,
they're cracking down a lock, putting.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Their brain jail on. They run the deal.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
Now Chinese Commis probably runs Hong Kong I can't go
there because I'm sanctioned by the CCP.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
I can't go to Hong Kong.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
The President Trump spends two years with Lightheiser to negotiate
the deal that would integrate them into the You talk
about coupling, it would couple. They spit in our face.
After two years, Leeha walked away. We got the skinny
Deal later. But even on the skinny deal, they haven't
lived up to anything.

Speaker 10 (29:41):
Nothing. They're at economic war with us.

Speaker 9 (29:45):
We have to face the time by President Trump climbing
down hey, and don't She's not gonna blink.

Speaker 10 (29:50):
So you have two options as I see it.

Speaker 9 (29:52):
Number one, a third party can intervene and use a
third party to maybe start talks.

Speaker 10 (29:59):
But I think I think you have to have the India, Japan.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
South Korea, Philippines, Taiwan layered over which they're so freaked
out about, at least the architecture of what those trade
relationships are. And remember we got carried battlegroups all over
there to keep those folks free in air assets and
marine assets.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
We're paying for their security.

Speaker 9 (30:21):
That's why your defense budgets won tradion dollars a year. Okay,
particularly when we're going back to a hemispheric defense. If
we went back to the hemispheric defense, which Trump says
are doing going to. If we went to that and
restructured the military, we cut two hundred billion dollars out
of the defense budget. Today, I can share the Pentagon

(30:44):
two hundred billion today, not in ten years, today today.
The third part of the second part is the deportations.
We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to the
financial I want to go to the deportations in a second. Remember,
take your number two pernts a lot and write down
the strategy here. What they are doing is making sure

(31:09):
that the ten million that came here, and I use
that number because Todd Bens and Owner that's the closest
number we got people came before.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I deal with that later.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Let me deal with the ten million that came here
illegally in an organized invasion by people who are not
being investigated and got to be.

Speaker 10 (31:25):
David is going to come back over here. We're going
to talk about that. He's we're going to game the
skype about the doj THN and the deportations.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
The game is they'rekind of try to slow us down
and force our hand here on the most radical members
of the of the of the gangs. Glenn Beck, who
was here the other day, went to the White House,
had a great interview with President Trump and President Trump
and Glenn lays that it's a judicial insurrection, and Trump agrees,
and the Trump walks over. He gave every guy a
due process hearing. It takes us two hundred years. Well,

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we don't have to a lot of these guys to
one point six milli of them already have orders to
get the hell out of here. One point six another
two million, as Todd Bens has told us, is all
these phony things on the app are burning off. So
he got three and a half million we deal with
right now. This is why they're going to the Supreme Court.
And this is what Roberts in the court that we
picked write this down assures the turning of the earth.

(32:20):
We're going to have a cataclysmic hearing at the Supreme
Court and they're not going to back Trump.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
They are not.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
They do not want to take the heat.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
That will be heat much higher than they took on
the abortion ruling, and that scared them to their core.
They're frightened, they're intimidated as many people get intimidated, and
then Trump's gonna have to think through Habeas Corpus, He's

(32:54):
going to have to think through Andrew Jackson and Lincoln.
I'm gonna get bringing in Bensmon right now, explain to
what they're defending.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
You know Jackson, they said.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Jackson said, hey, they pass it, now go and force it.
Lincoln in the early days of the Civil War they
couldn't get the troops from the North. He called for
fifty thousand troops right after Fort Sumner, fifty thousand troops
from the various states to come to Washington to defend

(33:27):
the capitol because they were afraid the rebels the Confederates.

Speaker 10 (33:30):
Might move on DC. Immediately.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
That battle ended up right outside of DC and Manassas
bull run to Yankees, Manassas to Confederates. Remember the Yankees
all name them on the creeks they were defending in
the Confederates, on the towns that they were taking, like
Antietam or Sharpsburg, picket pick them. You had to come

(33:59):
through Baltimore. Lincoln had to sneak into the capital disguised.
Pinkerton was had disguised on a midnight train when he
got to Baltimore. Because Baltimore was essentially a Southern city,
like Washington was a Southern city. They had to sneak
him in here, and he went to the Willow Hotel.
Got it like the Red Eye, get in overnight from Baltimore.

(34:20):
Snuck in, and he said regretted the rest of his
life because the medium mockeding totally. He said later regretted
it doing it, but they felt it had to be done.
When the troops got when he called for the troops
to come in, the Baltimore City council, the rebel forces
in that town, the plug uglies essentially shut the city down.

(34:40):
Said nothing's going south there on a train, not going
to happen. No troops are going to Washington, d c.
Because we kind of are Southern sympathizers. Because in rural
Maryland there was a lot of and this is where
the plot that killed Lincoln later was from the you know,
from Maryland, right, all those Marylanders and ran the surat

(35:04):
mary sarat ran the ran the house here with the
Confederate Secret Service and shoots from Maryland orald Man and
owned a tavern out there, all Confederate sympathizers. So in
eighteen sixty one, they block it and uh, and so
what did Lincoln do?

Speaker 10 (35:18):
He went and arrested.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
He put he arrested to Baltimore, I think the mayor
and the City Council of Baltimore and put him in
jail and opened up for open up for the troops
to come through and essentially save Washington provide defense. Which
were the darkest days of the Civil War for them.
Occurred thing because they didn't think any troops were coming.
They thought the game might be over when they started. Tawny,

(35:41):
the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, who had written
the dread Scott decision. Right, this a beauty. He written
the dread Scott decision kind of got us in here anyway.
He sends over a thing to Lincoln to saying, hey,
I noticed that on you know, on that the Baltimore
City Council, the mayor, you got them locked up up
and you've brought no indictment. And so for habeas corpus,

(36:03):
you've got to either give me an indictment or they
the Baltimore official federal attorney you also drink, got give
hi an indictment, or you gotta let him go. And
Lincoln called heyover John Hey. The hey Adams are named
after him. He became the secretary, say, one of the
most famous man men in the nineteenth century, young twenty
one year old secretary. All secretary and male secretaries said,

(36:23):
you know, don't write this down, but take this over
to him.

Speaker 10 (36:25):
Just remember what I'm tell him.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Tell him if he because Tawny said, have doesn't happen
twenty four hours, I'm going to let him go. Hay
goes over to the Chief Justice. I got a message
with President. I state, it's oh, young man, what is it?

Speaker 10 (36:39):
He says.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
The President says, if you release the city council and
the mayor in twenty four hours on because of habeas corpus,
he's going to put you in jail.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
Tawny didn't say anything else. And I believe the city.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
Council, mayor stayed in stayed in jail for the duration
of the war. Lincoln ran as a warlord, shut down
the press, arrested, held guys in congress, ran to Canada.
He ran it as a warlord. You know why, That's
the only way he could beat the Confederacy. Had to
run as a war lord. You think he used to
talk all the time about they were shredding the conscertors.

(37:15):
They talked about the expanded powers, the inherent powers of
the executive.

Speaker 10 (37:21):
Right.

Speaker 9 (37:22):
He and that war cabinet were some of the smartest
lawyers in the country. The group of really smart lawyers,
deal lawyers.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
They used to talk.

Speaker 9 (37:29):
About the implied, the implied, the implied powers of the Constitution.
For Article two. It's got that scene in the movie
Lincoln where he finally had it. He's trying to get
the amendments at the end of the war. You know
why they needed these amendments to try to justify just
saying later on the reason nobody's tried for treason. They

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didn't think they could win in federal court, just saying,
just saying, that's why they had to get these done.
Lincoln was on the thing and get them done, get
these amendments passed. And he remember he's horse trading. Guys
had come in. You want to be post office guy,
Give a guy post office. All the all the guys
that got beaten in the in the election, all these

(38:11):
deadbeat congressmen needed and needed something because they could still vote.
Because back then it was in March when when when
everything flipped over, or when the president was inaugurated, so
he had some time. So and he says, he bangs
the table and finally says, I had enough of this.
I'm President of the United States, endowed with virtually unlimited power.

(38:36):
That's Lincoln. This is where it's coming to, folks. Write
it down in your notebook on a financial crisis we
have in the beginning of the kinetic phase of the
Third World War.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
The man's trying to bring.

Speaker 9 (38:51):
Peace in a global reordering of commercial relationships. So finally
we can stop the madness of us being ripped off
and underwriting the security, the people ripping us off Defense Department,
House Armed Services Committee. I know you love spending the

(39:12):
money because they're taking that to the big dinners and
they're giving you stipends, and you know, and yes, in
your district you got high paining jobs, God bless them.
But at some point in time we're gonna have to
hammer the swords and the plowshares.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
It's madness.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
This system is not simply it's not simply unsustainable, because
it's unsustainable. At two and a half we're gonna have
a two and a half tree in dollar deficit this year.
This year, this fiscal year, inning September thirtieth. Write that
down your notebook too. It's unsustainable. It's also insane. It

(39:50):
doesn't make any sense. There's no logical connection to this.
We're fighting a global trade work because they're all ripping
us off, not just on tariff but on non tariff ways.
They don't listen to the country and there's no manufacturing here,
and we've become a con total consumer that we have
to It's all federal money shutting down the law firms.

(40:11):
What it was about federal money shutting down the university
is what's about federal money.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
It's all federal money. It's all your money because we.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
Just keep the money machine cranked up and eventually can't
pay for it. And you underwrite the defense of the
You essentially our beloved military, of which I served in
with Pride and Moe served in Pride. Coming out of
West Point, they've tried to turn our military and basically

(40:37):
rent a cops to the casino.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
We can't have that happen. That's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
This is an insane system that's not sustainable, and the
only people that can make changes are you having President
Trump's back.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Bensman next.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
Use your host Stephen k Back.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
Okay, at the top of the show, we talked about
when Steve Leisman, the big liberal over at CNBC, is
ripping on Trump no plan of strategy. I said, there's
two alternatives now, basically because there is a process. Besson
has a process going. Is that process moving as quickly
as people want to know? Because they are trade these
are complicated things. Even to get to the architect as
a memory and of understanding. However, I said, now there's

(41:27):
two passion You go down one is the third party
and get in the room to Chinese, or continue to
work your deals, work your process and escalate.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
This is from President Trump.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
Hot off the press just came across true social Boeen
should default China for not taking the beautifully finished planes
that China committed to purchase. This is just a small
example of what China has done to the USA for years.
And by the way, fentanyl continues to pour into our
country from China through Mexico and Canada, killing hundreds of
thousands of our people. And it better stop. Now they're

(41:59):
at war with the US. You're not gonna it's not
gonna be happy clappy. And of course the casino doesn't
like it because the casino likes labay Jing being a
slave labor. The casino likes dumping money into China. That's
the casino. Thank you Jack Forsber for reminding me of
then Todd Bensman. They're going this is going to go

(42:24):
to the Supreme Court and it's going to be a
constitutional crisis and they're going to try to force Trump
to be Andrew Jackson right, tell me about the individual.
I want to make very clear because this is not
getting enough air. And we had leahy on last night,
but this is John Solomon's done great work. Lay's done
great work. Benzman's done great work. What exactly are they defending, sir.

Speaker 11 (42:50):
Well, the pro criminal crowd chose this hill, the Abrego hill,
to die on for some reason, and it just keeps
getting worse and worse. We now have new information about
a brago a traffic stop out a Tennessee State trooper
in twenty twenty two. The guy had seven or eight

(43:11):
what he called construction workers that he was driving from
Texas to Maryland. The trooper, according to the reports, said
that he believed this was a smuggling event, so he
took a bunch of information. He collected what he needed to.

(43:31):
I don't know why he didn't arrest. We still don't
have that information about why he didn't arrest. But one
thing he did say is that that car is my
boss's car. The vehicle just news came out with the
vehicle owner's name, his boss's name, which turns out to

(43:52):
be Jose Ramone Hernandez out of Houston, an illegal alien
crossed after he was deported again, who was running a
smuggling operation out of Houston in twenty nineteen. The guy
got convicted because boss hang on.

Speaker 10 (44:13):
He said.

Speaker 9 (44:14):
He told the troopers because he didn't have an illegitimate license,
because it's for illegal aliens that Maryland get these radical democrats.
States give these guys driver's license, but there's only to
use in the state. He had that the registration. He
was driving somebody else's car. Normally, unless you can really
confirm that, they put them to lock them up right there.

(44:35):
Tennessee State Police dropped the ball here unless they come
forward quickly and say you dropped the ball, and the
FBI dropped the ball. But I'm not shocked about that cash.
That's another reason they should be shut down, he told
the state hang, you got to get that. He told
the state trooper, this is my boss's car. His boss
was convicted of human trafficking out of Houston, which Todd

(44:59):
Bensman has taught now the last four years is one
of the hotbeds for human trafficking in the United States?

Speaker 10 (45:05):
Am I correct in all that? Todd Bensmon, that's right.

Speaker 11 (45:09):
And you don't even have to take it for me,
because the boss. Abrego's boss waived his Miranda rights and
said everything told told the uh this this one happened
in Mississippi. He got caught with a load of nine
illegal aliens, several of whom had recrossed, so they were

(45:29):
doubly criminal aliens. And those guys were all interviewed. Also,
his brother in law was arrested at the scene. And
there's just they waved their Miranda rights, so it's all
right there in the court records you can read all
about it. They'd been doing the business for at least

(45:50):
five or six months, had done half a dozen trips
to five different states, South Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, Maryland, a
smuggling operation, and they got arrested, prosecuted, pled guilty to
the charges and spent eighteen months in jail.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
By the time he got out, it was the.

Speaker 11 (46:15):
Biden era, and Biden was letting all the criminals stay
rather than deporting them as necessary required by law. And
so it looks like he went right back to his
smuggling game, which was booming in twenty twenty two when
Abrego got caught in that very bosses vehicle, he said,

(46:37):
with a load of aliens. So those who are trying
to the pro criminal crowd that's out there trying to
paint this guy as a loving father of five who
just kind of got in a tiff with his wife
once or twice but otherwise was great, are working over
time to return this guy back to the United States

(47:00):
so he can deliver another brutal beating to that wife, who,
by the way, is out there stumping on his behalf
weeping and crying and Scott go fund me pages and
is making all this money, undoubtedly to to advocate.

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Of course, I don't care what the wife's I don't
care what the wife says, I don't care what the
kid says.

Speaker 10 (47:24):
I don't care about any of that.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
He said.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
He was driving his boss's car, and his boss is
convicted of human trafficking and.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
He had eight in the car.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
And now I'm rageous that the Tennessee the Tennessee State
Police didn't take him downtown right then or take him
to the Who's Goal just to figure out what's going on.
They let him go. This is what happens every day
in this country. Don't think the law enforcements not totally
on top of this. We love the cops, but this
happens every day. Because it's too much, or once you
do that, you're in immigration. It's a pain in the ass.

(47:56):
They want to go, they want to go lock up
bad guys. Got that, But don't think that because ice
is not around once in the interior, they move around.

Speaker 10 (48:06):
You're seeing it right here.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
This guy was a human trafficker in the process of
trafficking eight individuals to Maryland to work for slave wages.
Because that's the way the system works. And unless you
call it out every day, nothing changes.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Ben's you're going to hang on.

Speaker 9 (48:26):
David's on top of this constitutional crisis so much more
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We are back in two minutes.