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May 2, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

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JAMES RICKARDS
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(03:10):
a heads up by Christopher Leonard when I had Christopher
in Friday. We could go today in Kansas City, Missouri.
Chris Chrisopher lives out there and Christopher, as you knows,
the author of the fabulous you know, foundational text of
the war in one of them, the Lords of Easy Money.
I've asked Jim Rickards to come back to come on, Jim,

(03:36):
there's so much on geopolitics. I want to take some
time and go through this because I think that we
need to help to start to frame this giving the
hurtling towards the crises of the Summer of twenty twenty five,
which will go down in history one hundred years from now. Folks,
they're going to talk about this summer of what is
going to happen and how and who's going to win.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So, Jim, I want to talk. You know you had Walt's.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
The big headline is, you know, Maga got rid of
Waltz yesterday. Marco Rubio's now going kissingery Secretary of State,
National Security Advisor at least for a while. Front page
Financial Times, Laura Lumer gets up. You know, she gets
a hat tip. You don't often see the Financial Times
writing about Laura Lumer on their page one. This is
the most important paper in the world, goes to every

(04:22):
decision maker in the world. It's the reason we break
it down virtually every day for the war and Posse,
because you guys are at that you are decision makers.
You have created yourself into a political force that people
pay attention to and they understand you. You have stroke
and you have punch, and you can land a punch,
and you can take a punch. More importantly, Rickard's this

(04:46):
confusion now the part of getting something sorted on the
on the kinetic part of the Third World War, which
we're in.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's not we're going to be in. We're in. We're
in deeper than in you know, in ninet teen, thirty nine,
nineteen forty. We're in it now.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
President Trump has made this an actual major element of
his second term is to.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Lay the guns down at least it comes start coming
to frameworks.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think I just saw the New York Pross we
came on that they're kind of walking away for a while.
They signed the quote unquote you know, Economic Deal or
the rare Earth Deal, wherever you want to call it.
But now they're saying, hey, there hasn't been enough movement.
They're not these parties are not willing to listen to
each other in you know is fairly and so they're

(05:35):
going to walk away. Get us up to speed. Where
are we exactly in your mind, and where in the
hell is this thing going?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, this is going to a Russian victory in Ukraine.
Now we've got to define victory. The one thing that
strikes me about Putin. Putin has been clear and consistent
from before the war in Ukraine as to what his
goals are. And by the way, this war started in
two thousand and eight when George Bush said We're going
to make Ukraine part of NATO. It continued twenty fourteen

(06:02):
when the CIA and m I six stage to coup you.
We're supposed to love democracy, while we overthrew a dually
elected leader, etc. Putin took crimeas shortly thereafter say what
part of annexation do you not understand? You know, NATO
and the United States, and he kept escalating from there.
You know the role of Victoria Newla. My point is
the US has been working to the US wanted this war.

(06:23):
The US has been promoting this war for almost twenty years.
Well we got it. We got the war. So anyway, Russia,
Russia comes in. Now you have to understand the Russian
way of war. I'm sure you do. It is slow, methodical,
and lethal. They have what they call cauldron. They encircle
the enemy. They'll spend months taking every village around a
major logistics hub so that when they go go for

(06:45):
the kill. Basically you can surrender if you want, but
Ukraine is typically don't. Some of them do or you
get annihilated. That's all there is to it now. Right
The problem right now, Trump is in exactly the position
that LBJ was in I'll say, early nineteen sixty five,
you know, and you know, sixty four of his election
year and the Great Society and all that. But LBJ

(07:06):
inherited a war from Eisenhower and JFK. He could have
done one of the two things. He could have wounded
up on some basis, walked away said hey, good luck,
or escalate, which he did. We got to the point
five hundred thousand troops, fifty thousand casualties, ten years of war, etc.
Johnson regretted it later, but that's not what he wanted.
Trump's in exactly the same position today. The question is

(07:27):
is this going to be Biden's war and then Trump
ends it or ends us and Bob and I should
put it that way, but we can get a deal
with Putin or is it going to be sucked into escalation?
And the thing is, it sounds like you have to
send it in the eighty second airborne. I mean, just
another weapon, seal, another money advanced, another extension of time, etc.

(07:49):
It all just drags out the war and it will
very quickly be Trump's war. The guy who's got this right.
By the way, jd Vance, he understands it. I'll give
Rubio some credit. Well. So, by the way, if I see,
if I criticize people a sam are personal, it could
be good people. But wals was one amonger. General General
Kellogg was doing this thing. So the Kela wals Plant said,

(08:09):
we're going to have an unconditional ceasefire along the line
of contact. That's where are the Russian troops now, line
of contact. Show me a victorious winning power in the
history of the world that agree to an unconditional ceasefire
on the line of contact. Then the loser wants that.
Other people want it. But if you're winning, no, you
don't agree to that. So Pudin wants the four provinces Donslahansk,

(08:32):
Hershean and wants the four provinces uh.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Kind of a hangover, hang on, hold, slow down, slow down,
slow down, slow down. When you say line of contact,
what do you mean by that? You mean actually with
the armies a line of contact right now. Not not
the don Bass, not the Eastern provinces, not Crimea, not all.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
The stuff they started with.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
They started with that given the debacle that the United
that both Bush and Obama administration pushing this cont need
to lose and never really you know, never really did
anything except except the exacerbate the Russians. Right, so line
of contact. Now you're saying, well, that's thirty percent, that's
a third of Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Correct that line of contact.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now right now? Now the four well the four provinces
have been for and plus Crimea have been formally annexed
and are part of the Russian Federation. So if you
ask the Russians, you asked putin they're fighting on Russian
territory as far as they're concerned having. So that's that's
what they've done. It has not been recognized internationally, but
you know, kind of who cares as far as Russia
is concerned that those provinces and Crimea are part of Russia.

(09:36):
The problem is the Russian military, the Russian army have
captured about two thirds of that a little bit more.
They are pushing towards the Nepro River. So there is
a ribbon or a band of territory that the Russians
would say is part of the Russian Federation. But the
Ukrainian troops are still there. And they have not been dislodged.
So that's so that's what the Kelleg Waltz plan. The

(09:58):
Walts moved on, but the colleagues else plan was to
have an unconditional ceasefire on the line of contact and
then you would take it from there. By the way,
the US and NATO, they're really good negotiating with themselves.
You know, they go to London, they meet with Starmer,
they meet with Markrohn, they meet with you know, so
Mondoleayan and you know, etc. They negotiate with themselves. Who's
negotiating with Russia? And I understand that White Kopf has

(10:20):
and that's good, and he's you know, he fully authorized
to represent Trump. But that's that's that's what it's going
to take. Now. Russia says, we want those four territories,
we want Ukraine to withdraw, We want demilitarization of Ukraine,
de nazification. And when you say that, people go, oh,
what are you talking about with Nazis. I'm sorry. This ideology,
the Bandaris ideology in Ukraine they took root in the

(10:44):
thirties and forties, is pro Nazi. They fought on the
Nazi side against the Russian army in World War Two.
They're still there. They're the power behind the scenes. I've
spoken to the head of the Marshall Us Foundation about that.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
She didn't like my hangover second, hangover a second, just
to put this in perspective so people understand, because with
these Slavic entities or the whether, these things go back
hundreds of years, but they're grounded in a ground truth.
What happened in Ukraine in the nineteen thirties, because Ukraine's

(11:19):
essentially Kansas, it's the Kansas of let's say Russia or
Kansas of part of Europe is a massive you know,
wheat grain, it's a bread basket. In the nineteen thirties,
the Bolsheviks, led by Stalin took these intellectuals out of
because they were doing force collectivizations up in Russia. They
needed the grain. They went and essentially starved the Ukrainian people.

(11:40):
I think it was five million people starved. If you've
ever read Anne Applebaum, who is no fan of the war, room,
wrote a book I think it's called Red Harvest. There's
a number of books. You read them, you can't it's
very tough to turn the page of They starved to
death in the midst of plenty five million people. When

(12:02):
you say Nazification, the Ukraine was a killing field, was
the Bloodlands, it was called in World War Two, a
lot of Eastern Europe, but particularly Ukraine because you had
a lot of Ukrainians that wanted vengeance against the Bolsheviks.
So when the German army came, you had a lot
of people signed up. Some of the worst units in
the Wehrmacht as far as brutality were Ukrainian elements. That's

(12:27):
what Putin keeps talking about the Nazification. Also, then a
ton of people did of Ukraine fought for the Russians
because a lot of you know, feel like they're almost
ethnic Russians. So this thing goes back and it's brutal
and it's nasty.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And so when when you.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Get Putin and these guys talking about that in Ukrainians,
the Americans, you know, the media kind of comes in
and kind of slaps it over like this place is
Norway or Sweden and it's all these you know, nightclubs
and all these nice people and LGBTQ flags, and you
know it'd all be supported. It's far deeper than that,
is it, not, Brother Rickards.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, you're exactly right, Stephen. Of course, the point is, yeah,
everything he said is correct, and that accounts for some
of the bitterness and the intransigence of this. But Communism's gone,
Stalin's gone. Okay. Putin is a nationalist, authoritarian leader. I
get it. But anybody's you know, closely aligned with the
Orthodox churchs Americans don't understand the role of the Orthodox Church.

(13:23):
They don't understand Russian history, they don't understand Russians in general.
I you know, I go back to the day, I
go back to the days of Kissinger and Hamasana Felt
and James Baker and so forth, and they really knew
their stuff. George Schultz, you don't see that calibert talent today.
And I'm not again, I'm not disparaging anyone. I'm just saying,
you know, it's sign of the leadership. And Jay, you
asked the smart guy. But when you look at Fiona Hill,

(13:45):
George Kent, the people testified against Trump during the impeachment,
they're not impressive Russian scholars at all. Number one. Number two,
as far as you know where we are right now.
The other thing Putin wants is neutrality. Now Austria was
neutral during most of the Cold War and eventually, you know,
join the West and uh uh you know it's thriving
democratic society today. She was a great country, but they

(14:06):
were neutral. It was great beginning. It was a great
spy capital because both sides could drop in that that
happens a lot. That's not the end of the world.
So uh so, but putin samands are consistent. Now Trump
is faced with a decision number one. He can agree
to most of what Putin wants almost all of it,
get a little something in return. And uh and I
just call it to day. By the way, Steve as

(14:28):
you know, when you do geopolitics at a high level, Uh,
there are only three countries in the world that matter.
The United States, Russia, and China.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sorry, UK, you're secondary power, Germany your tertiary power. They're
the only three head matters.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
If you're if you're in a.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
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in the world now of great power politics. Right, you
got China, got the CCP, you got Russia, you got
You've got the United States of America. This is leads
us up to the early nineteen seventies where Nixon and

(17:02):
Kischinger came of the strategy to pull the Chinese Companies
Party away from the Bolsheviks so that we could try
to hammer out and take down the evil Empire solo
with a clear shot, and Reagan eventually did it. That
was predicated the reason they had to do it. The
country was such a mess geopolitically, given a decision that

(17:23):
was made in the White House in nineteen sixty five.
That decision was Lyndon Johnson, and guess what the best
and the brightest the people left over from Kennedy's administration,
including mac Bundy McGeorge Bundy, the former president at Harvard
that was the National Security Advisor. Why is that such
a seminal moment in modern American history?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Sir, Well, go back to the great powers quickly, Steve, China, Rush,
the US are the only ones that count. Now. It
takes you a poker player. But a poker player knows
if you're in a three handed poker game and you
don't know who the sucker is, you're the sucker. I
meaning it's always two against one if you're in the
two grade. If you're not, you're going to lose, right,

(18:05):
And that's what Nixon understood. He said, trying to Russia US.
So we opened the door to China so we could
isolate the Soviet Union at the time, and at work,
Malse Tung died, Gang Foro got arrested, Deanshiel Peg modernized,
and the Soviet Union fell and we won the Cold
War as a result. That was brilliant. That was Nixon
and kissed Right. Now today, the same analysis applies, except

(18:27):
China is the main enemy. So what does that mean?
It means either the US and Russia hold hands and
work together. You have to be treaty allies. But by
just work together and isolate China or we're the sucker.
And because that means Russian and China working together against us,
and the president of eight suckers, I agree with him,
but right now we're the sucker unless we can open
the door to Russia. Now, going back to LBJ, he

(18:49):
had this critical moment. He was really a domestic politician.
No one particularly thought of him as a foreign policy expert.
So you rely on the people around you. There's no
question about. They had plenty of IQ points, plenty of
Harvard degrees. That was the easy part. You know. Mac
namara was in you know, Logistic Goal, uh, the linear
programming with McGeorge Bond. He had a big brain and
all that. But they didn't they were replaying the Korea playbook.

(19:12):
They didn't understand how different Vietnam was. And Eisenhower said,
whatever you do, do not get in a land war
in Asia, island hopping, you know, first Marines. Yeah, we
got to defeat Japan. Understood, do not get in a
land war in Asia. What we did, and and Johnson
just followed along and just got worse and worse and worse.
And that's that's the point. And again with fifty thousand

(19:34):
dead and you know, tour the country apart and you know,
kind of destroyed, you know, handicapped Nixon in very important ways.
That was a national tragedy and national disaster. It did
not have to happen. And that's my point. Trump is
at the same point today. He can basically accept Pudent's demands. Now,
the first thing I always say to the Trump administration is, look,

(19:55):
the press is going to bash you no matter what
you do. So factor out the press. Don't make a
part of your question, because if you settle more or
less on Putin's terms, which is the way down in
the war, they're going to trash you, your Putin puppet,
Putin Steward. We know all that. But if you keep fighting,
you're going to say, well you're not doing enough, you
need to do more, et cetera. So factor the press out.
Look at the situation on the ground, savious. Russia's winning.

(20:17):
They're going to win. I read an article the other
day the Russian economy stuff said, well, read some World
War two history if you want to know about the
Russian economy. They're more resilient the Germans of Ehrmarch killed
five million Russians. Guess what, they had five million more
right behind them, and that was not taken into account.
So that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I want to be very clearer, because you're a respected guy,
and this clip's going to go and people are people
that make things happen and go and watch it. Are
you saying that if you don't want to go down
the pay Johnson made a mistake. He decided to escalate
and send five hundred thousand combat troops right escalate, and
we didn't get out yesterday it was the fiftieth, Yes, sir,

(21:02):
two days you have fiftieth anniversary of our retreat and
surrender from South Vietnam, right with fifty eight thousand combat
casualties that wouldn't happen. They were almost when he made
that decision in sixty five, I think there was under
a thousand dead or something.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It was nothing.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
It was that acceleration that made it. And he made
a mistake and he should have thought it through and
just gotten out. What are you saying right now, President Trump?
If he's in the if Trump's in the exact same spot.
What do you specifically saying Trump should do?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Get out? We know what Pudin's terms are. Basically agree
to them. That's not surrender, that's just common sense. If
Johnson had got out of Vietnam in nineteen sixty five,
we would have ended up in the same place with
which is communist control of Vietnam, without the casualty, the damages, etc.
Trump's going down the road, and the way they lead
you down this road is a little bit at a time,
little baby steps.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
By the way, this.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Minerals deal that they signed the other day, I looked
at a map. It's really it's really about liquid natural Sorry,
it's about shell Joelian and oil on gas. I looked
at the map at where the fields are. They're in
Russian territory. So, okay, we just did to deal with
the craye and the same they're giving us the show oil.
And I looked at the map and say, oh, well,
Russia controls of that. You think they're giving it back? No,
So this is this is all for show. You get

(22:15):
out now while there's still an opportunity to do so.
By the way, just to follow up, Steve once we
do that, we can work with Russia. There's a lot
else going on, you know, with the money and the
frozen assets, etc. And Russia just needs to export, et cetera.
Russia is critical not just to China but to Iran.
Anybody wanted to war in Iran, we're heading for one,
but with Russia's help, Russia and the United States together.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's one of the reasons Walts walts Waltz was fired
because he was One of the reasons he was fired
was because he was too much, too adamant about this
bombing and military and intervention into Persia. So you're recommending
President Trump just right now saying, hey, I gave you
guys a goot and nothing happened and we're out. Is
that No more military aid, no more financial aid, just

(22:59):
walk away.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, we have two hundred billion down the drain. By
the way, Americans are being killed. You don't hear about
it because they're covert operators and intelligence collectors, say with
the French, etc. But yeah, two hundred billion dollars probably
more down the drain. Probably estimates vary, but over seven
hundred thousand Ukrainian dead, one hundred thousand or more Russian
dead and Russia is not giving up. So again, you

(23:23):
can get out now and Russia's going to take about
a third of the country, or you can keep fighting
and Russia's going to take a third of the country,
so the same result. Meanwhile, by basically working with Russia
on this, you can have Russia's aid in Iran, where
it's far more important because that gets closer to the
nuclear work.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
The rap prochron Jim, where do people go to get
strategic intelligence? And talk about the book you throw in
because the money GPT is a very scary read, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Thank you, stee. If we have our on landing pages records,
war room dot com, records warroom dot com, you go
there you can subscribe to strategic Intelligence. We have my
book Money GPT, but we have a new uh uh
video Steve, and basically it looks at what Scott Beston said.
You know, Scott Beston early on said, I want to
monetize the asset side. Everyone's concerned about debt and deficits,

(24:14):
as they should be. That's legitimate, but let's not overlook
the assets and say, well, what are you going to
sell the brand? Cown You know we're not. But basically
we you know, we mineral wiseed oil, natural gas, strategic metals, gold, silver,
intellectual property, et cetera. It's a brilliant uh moved by
Steve Best and we go into it. We do a
deep dive on that.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Uh, this is in Strategic Intelligence.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
This month you do a deep dive on on on
Bessin's plan for monetization of the assets side of the
balance sheet. You do that in this month's Strategic Intelligence.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, for the for the May issue, we talk about that,
and we we also look at Steven Moran's mar logo
or recordia. We're right on the right on the subject.
And but the video explains it all. It's Ricords war
room dot com.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, let's everybody get over there.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Steve Moran, who's the head of the Council Economic Advisors,
he's a major player that never gets mentioned.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
His mar Lago plan is one of the.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Most foundational documents economically of the Trump second term. And
Scott Besson has been working through that issue about the
monetization of the asset side of the balance sheet to
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Speaker 1 (26:55):
Moment, War room, use your host. Stephen came back.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
We're gonna get so. Remember this is part of the crisis.
This is the part of the kinetic part of the
Third World War. Remember the three kind of boom boom boom,
the three verticals America. First, National Security, which is on
the starting stopping the wars, the deportations. Judge yesterday said

(27:27):
President Trump doesn't have can't use the Alien Enemies Act
of seventeen ninety eight. Can't use it, some federal judge
and at Trump and point, this is going to can
we get this clock roll in?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Thanks?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
And now you got to budget out. My phone's already
getting blown up. A lot of people not happy with
some of the stuff getting funned and not funny. It's
a lot of details. We're going to go through that
and come out start this afternoon and then tomorrow to
go through it in detail about how we start, how
we get the financial and other aspect tied together. Of

(28:03):
those three converging crises, the one that's not getting enough
attention right now, and I'm not sure getting enough attention
over with folks that ought to know better is don't
assume the administrative state and the deep states going away

(28:25):
they're not.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Even at these agencies where you have landing teams or
you have some of our four or five.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Thousand people in there, they have very small representation or maga.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Involvement.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Given the career bureaucrats and given the career administrative state folks,
what you have to do is going with a jackhammer
every day and be relentless, and people have to have
their back.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's one of the shows. The show is dedicated to
making sure we highlight those stories and.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
We have the backs of those That's why Ed Martin,
the said Martin situation is so important.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
He may be.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Outside of the top two or three people at Main Justice,
and whoever ends up heading, whether it's Jay Clayton or whatever,
whoever ends up heading Southern District of New York, the
one of the most important people in the country. And
given the purview of his basic involvement in the Capitol

(29:25):
and other things, because you saw what happened on j six,
he may be one of the most important of all.
And this gets back to one of these central problems,
and you're going to see it come up with the budget.
They're all this thing about when the media says the
republic Party is totally maga. The House and Senate totally maga.

(29:46):
That's just they missed the point, as they miss the
point and everything.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Most of these people, most of them, the elected officials
in the House and Senate, are just waiting Maga and
Trump out. They fear you, of course, they fear you.
They fear your retribution at the ballot box and the primaries,
of course. But they've come up to a system and
there's still rhinos, and the Republican Party is still.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Neoliberal, neo con globalist.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's not economic populism, it's not economic nationalism.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
They're not nationalists.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
They'll hum a few bars to get you off their
back and the run for cover immediately if you highlight it.
And the med Martin thing shows perfectly today when President
Trump presents this budget, you have these structural issues. This
is the discretionaries. This budget, so it says like Trump's

(30:45):
one point five train dollar budget, this does not have
any of the entitlements in it. It really just has.
The big entitlements are soci security, Medicare, and even Medicaid,
although you could argue that's maybe not as.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
An entitle the other two. But this is the discretionary part.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
This is the defense budget and then all the other agencies,
and traditionally has been a tree and five to two
trillion dollars. President Trump's got one hundred and sixty billion dollars.
You know Elon And for all the Elon fanboys, he
pulled this. This is this is a coincidence. Is the
number he pulled out the other day. This has nothing
to do with DOGE.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
It just doesn't the programmatic part of this.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yes, the DOGE go in some on usaid, but those
things have been fought forever and these are all being
taken apart in the appropriation process, which is a legal process.
I still don't see any and we need it. I
don't see any numbers in here at all. Of the fraud,

(31:49):
the waste, and no offense. This show is one to
force him. You got across the Potomac, You got across
the Potomac, You got across the Potomac.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Why if you want to.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Get serious about that, You've got to go a place
called the Pentagon, and you got to go there. And
I'm not saying I've heard crickets from the Pentagon on
that part, but all we've heard is crickets from the Pentagon.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
And so in the.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Converging crisis, we're coming up this one in the middle
of the of the the pivot in the in the
reorganization of the postwar international rules based order, on the
economic side, in the dollar side, given that Rio is
going to.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Happen in July.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Layered on top of it, how we actually financed this,
what we're what we are financing, and how we we
finance it? What are we actually going to do as
a government, and what are you as a taxpayers prepared
to finance and missing and all this.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
There ain't one penny in here. Fraud We need it.
I knew the trained dollars would never happen, but we
thought it was going to be something.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
We need every penny we can find, and we need people.
If they defrauded and they took Social Security money, or
if they took you know, food stamps, or if they
took Medicaid, anything they took, that's fraud. It's got to
be turned over to It's got to be turned over
to main justice. It's got to be turned over to
main justice.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
So these converging crises, and you figure out how did
we get in a situation that we have a trillion
dollars train and a half to two trained dollars of
discretionary spending that literally we can't afford because we only
take in four point five to five trillion dollars of
revenues all sources.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
And yes, maybe Terriffs is going to kick it up.
Looks like he's going to kick it up.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Maybe kick it up one hundred billion, two hundred billion,
which would be amazing, But that's not going to cover
the gap.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's not going to cover the gap. How do we
get here?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It was?

Speaker 5 (33:50):
It was?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It was.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The Republicans were controlled opposition. Fox News was controlled opposition.
The Wall Street Journal was controlled opposition, controlled opposition. The
Jim Burkers does not take us back to this debacle
in Ukraine at two thousand and eight bushing these guys,
they're those guys driving with a deep sate, driving to

(34:16):
get Ukraine into the EU and into NATO, picked up
by Victoria Neulan and these people that had always been
in the State Department who essentially did the Color Revolution
in twenty fourteen that Raheem Kassam and Natalie Winters is
so greatly documented, started with the Republicans.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
This is the sea change of President Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
And this is why President Trump is acting with an
urgency that we need everybody.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
To act on.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
The guys, what's seventy eight years old, follow the true soldier.
The guys were eighteen or twenty hours a day, every
day of the week.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
And these are not small things.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
When you're doing the speech like last night at Alabama
in front of the Hunt towns tens of thousand, one
hundred thousand people in live to millions, and you're doing
you're in the Oval office with you know, you're doing
a three hour, three hour cabinet meeting and taking questions
from the press. You're always on. I do a speech

(35:18):
at at Hillsdale, Hell, I'm wiped out. Trump's doing four
or five of these a day, things like that a
day every day. Now he shows up and does it
one day every day. The most important part, I believe
of the first hundred days is you're seeing Trump in
the same Trump every day. The humor, the knowledge, the connection,

(35:43):
the knowing every issue.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Go back in time. Look.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
One of the parts of disanner meeting the mainstream media
and just bringing them into the into the Oval.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
All those by lads.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
They have briefing papers and the complicated issues you're talking about.
Trump then opens up to the press and he's taken
all questions.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Look at the level.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Just go back over a week and look at the
different questions and the technical nature of the gotcha questions.
Trump just off the top of his head. Who knows
that volume of information. He doesn't have some guy in
his ear briefing him in his ear.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's Trump. He's read about it, He's absorbed it.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Here's his take in his sense of urgency. It's the
it's the how rapid, how deep, and the scale of
what he has accomplished in the first one hundred days
and now at the second hundred days will be more
even more historic. And this is why it's the convergence

(36:42):
of all this. At one time, the border situation virtually
tied up.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
The US government. Remember, go back in time with those.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Of you who followed at least followed me at Breitbart
and Breitbart Radio and Breybart News Radio and Breitbart Texas,
and you know all these people you saw over the
years and talking about himration, immigration, immigration all the time,
in the fights in the House and the Michelle Bachman
and Steve King, going back to twenty thirteen, right. Going
back to the Tea party, look at all this. Trump

(37:15):
sealed the board in sixty days. Eric Bowling brought up
one of the most important parts that Eve and I had.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Skipped over the lane for bill had this whole.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
But remember the triggering thing was that you're going to
have essentially two million more illegal aliens come into country
every year before things kind of got triggered. Maybe not
say every year, but two million come in, two million
more two million if you do if you take the

(37:49):
one hundred and seventy billion dollars of the Senate bill
to dig the mass deportations, and you say, hey, there's
ten millions, it's seventeen billion.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Right per million, that's a thirty.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Four thirty four billion dollars just rough math. He stopped
that in sixty days, and now the Left does not
even talk about it. They don't want to talk about
it because it's so monumental. On day one, he and
Miller went through and got rid of all the forty
executive orders of Biden. He put in his executive orders.

(38:20):
Then he told Border patrol, I want to enforce this.
Then he sent some army units down there.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Voila, it's closed. It's sealed, and.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
The folks down there know I don't want to come
north because Trump's going to put me under arrest. I'm
not coming, The New York Times admitted on his tariffs,
on the tariff situation from Mexico, the very first round,
the people don't even talk about now the New York
Times report at fentanyl has dropped, I think about fifty percent.

(38:55):
We have to have his back noun in these big fights,
particularly the fights of the deep state, because that's one.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
People don't want to do. They don't it's ugly, it's tough,
it's unpleasant, of course it is.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
They're dug in. I'll be brutally, frank, I'm not feeling it.
Fitton's right and for the folks, and we love people
that in there, but we can't. We can't stop. We
have a higher duty than friendship in camaraderie to and
higher than to President Trump.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
We have a duty to the nation to get this done.
Now we this audience, you, me, all of us.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
We have a high moral responsibility to this republic, to
everybody that came before us and everybody that's going to
come after us. Right here in this time and place.
This is we have to take it on. We can't,
we will we cannot and will not kick this can
and down the road. The deep state has to go,

(40:04):
when I say has to go, has to be turfed
out of where they are in the United States government today,
and they have to be the ones that have broken
the law, and most of them are broken. Numerous laws
have to be investigated and prosecuted and then incarcerated. There's

(40:25):
no other way around this. Be so easy to say, well,
we've got other things that we're going to this No,
this is a cancer. It's a cancer that's still metastasizing,
and there are people who are prepared to cut it
out and cut it out.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
We shall cut it out. We shall.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Remember the exercise is all enemies, feign and domestic.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Sirp Brey, confuse your Stephen came. I only got to about.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
A third or under a third of what I wanted
to get to this morning. So this afternoon we got
more five to seven, and then tomorrow morning also live
ten am in the morning to noon. And these are
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(41:29):
the first. And the reason is the first was driving
the action to executive wards and executive actions.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
You know, momentum.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
President Trump talked about it last night at the University
Alabama magnificent graduation speech.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Keep the momentum, Keep the momentum, keep them amen.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Now you're coming up with with the peace negotiations with
the Russians and others, with the other aspects of the
kinetic part, with the economics of trade, with the Congress,
with the House, with all of it. Other participants are here,
and of course now in the courts to delays to
deny this massive constitutional crisis that were hurtling to and

(42:05):
I was saying, keeping your back pocket. We did not
bring this up last week. It's just an exercise. This
suspending the rid of habeas corporus. Just take your number two,
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to that later because that's all coming. So the second
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