May 5, 2025 • 51 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MAY 5TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
There's not got a free shot.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
try to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Mega media?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
War Room.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Here's your host, Stephen k Ban.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Monday, five May, year of Rolwer, twenty twenty five. Okay, MTG.
Because over the weekend she was up about all this
about the Capitol Hill guys not supporting President Trump and
the base on what they want to see done. We
didn't get into the other part, which is the destructive deconstruction,
administrative state, take down the deep state, all this other aspects.
And the reason is we have the Greek Tom Finton,
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who was kind enough to say, hey, I can come
by today and do this in person. So, Fenton, here's
a question. This article two or the unitary executive. He's
chief executive officer of the United States Government. He can
cut money, he can fire personnel number two. He's Commander
in chief of the Armed Forces. He can attack, send
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bad guys out of the country. He can call for
military action number three, which is sometimes lost, sometimes lost.
He's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the
US government. Full stop, am I correct?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You are President's Washington's, President Adams, President Jefferson, President Madison,
President Roosevelt one, and President Roosevelt two. President Lincoln famously
all initiated, stopped, and directly managed federal prosecutions. Old hit
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every one on that they did what initiated or stopped
and directed federal prosecutions. In fact, reviewing the material on
this over the weekend, the Chief Justice Marshall yelled at,
yelled at the Jefferson administration for not moving quickly enough
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on the Aaron Burr prosecution. And he specifically was targeting
Jefferson because Jefferson was running the prosecution. I mean to
the point of being involved. The best I understand it,
and by the way, depositions and such, so, you know,
so practically preach reason.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It was not a small case.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And the president was referred to as the chief executive magistrate.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Under the constitution, you know, the powers of the president
require the laws be faithfully executed.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And how is constitution and custom and tradition, Well, yes,
on top of that, well, the custom and tradition flows
from the obvious nature of his job as chief executive.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes, And so what does that mean in the modern era. Well,
in theory, it means President Trump could run the trial
in any prosecution. He'd be in there playing prosecutor if
he so chose. Chris Hayes, I hope your producers perfect.
Ariy Melver, give me that again, sir, to give me
that again for the.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hary Melver Ariy Melver show.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The president could conduct the prosecution quite literally, conduct the prosecution. Now,
there may be some rules related to the court rules about
you know, lawyers being involved and such. But the point
is he can run the prosecution, request an investigation, demand
and report back. And this is what I think he
should do. And we talked about this before. He should
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set up a special prosecutor separate in part from the
FBI and the Justice Department, and he used the Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The reason is is we've got there, but they're so
overwhelmed with what they got.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And conflicted institutionally, they're conflicted. Yes, the FBI guys aren't
going to take out the FBI. There aren't enough DOJ
good people in DJ. We don't control those We don't
control those buildings right now. So because you can't, it's
going to take a while. So the president can can
set this up.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He appoints a special prosecutor, and that special prosecutor does
not report to the Attorney General, reports to him. That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
An independent unit, an independent prosecutorial unit, investigative unit. He
can have it staffed with individuals from other law enforcement
agencies in the federal government, or contract with private experts
and you know, private entities to do investigations and any
criminal investigation or ultimately prosecution, and he can sign off.
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He can be as detail oriented as he wants in
terms of signing off on depositions, sub poenas you know, leads,
what is pursued. But he can be quite involved and
he can in the end, bless the prosecution one way
or the other. Now he may want to take the
Attorney General's advice as to the validity, the strength the
weakness of the prosecution, but in the end he makes
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the decision. And even short of that, he can go
over he can call Pam Bomdi over here today to
his oval office and say, tell me what's going on,
what prosecutions you're considering. Have you looked at this? Why
aren't you looking at this? I want you to look
at this, and I want you to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hang on, Ever since Watergate, that's been verboten, right, that
was the whole purpose of Watergate is to hive off
the Justice Department so it could not it would not
have any association with the executive branch and particularly the
office of the President.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, no one's suggesting a corrupt abuse of office here.
We're suggesting the vigorous exercise of his constitutional responsibilities, duties,
and powers to ensure that the rule of law is vindicated.
And does it mean targeting someone specific Fippley, just because
you don't like them, you know they're the You still
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have the rule of law, you still have judges, you
still have the constitutional protections right due process, and and
and defendants get all the rights and witnesses or targets.
No one suggesting will that be thrown out. But I'm
suggesting is that the Justice Department of the FBI are
hopelessly conflicted. Really, I don't even trust they're competent enough
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to get it done despite the new leadership. And it's
not it's no sphere on the leadership. We just know
they're they're crack pop.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Institutionally, these things are still riven with with with deep staters,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you know, in terms of the appearance of justice,
whether or not they are otherwise, you know, oh, they
may have a whole bunch of perfect staff, but the
American people have lost confidence in both agencies. And you know,
I was talking to Marjorie Tayley Green on the way out.
You know, she made the point her constituents are upset
about this, and you know, our friends in the administration
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want to blame me or Marjorie or others for highlighting
these issues and getting people riled up. It's like, why
are you kidding me? People instinctively know what's going on.
They don't need Tom Fitton or MTG or Steve Bannon
to tell them what to think. Donald Trump doesn't need
any of us to tell him what to think. So
this is this is a grassroots concern about the lack
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of justice and accountability. And and uh, you know, and
and frankly, our friends in the d O J and
FBI are giving us the equivalent of Q drops every week. Oh,
don't trust trust us. There's a plan, We're gonna roll
them up. There's a plan, there's no plan. There may
be a prosecution or two. There've been significant firings which
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are necessary but woefully insufficient. And the President should tell
cash treat FBI like us, and in the meantime, treat
USA FBI like US.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
A I D.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're trying scatter and scatter you believe, because it's May
of twenty twenty five. We're burning down. I tell people,
if if the deep state is not shattered on Trump's
watch and destroyed, it's going to come back. It's going
to come back bigger than ever. It's got to be done.
It's got to be done now. I mean, I was
I was talking about online the other day. You went
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to jail for contempt to Congress. Pete Navarro went to
jail for contempt to Congress. Garland wasn't prosecuted by the
Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Why you know, he hit these the videos he hit
he hit the audio of the Biden interview because they
covered up his mental incapacities by keeping that video that
audio quiet. He refused and went into contempt to Congress
rather than turn it over. Why is it the Bondi
Justice Department prosecuted him. I mean, it's it's right there.
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It's there's a package right there from the prior administration.
They can re evaluate and review and decide whether the
prosecutor or not. And as I was saying at the
beginning of the show, it's now time. I would suggest,
respectfully to the President that if he wants this done,
he should just do it, order it, get it done.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Because they're going to even if the two departments could
do it, which clearly they're overwhelmed. The media is gonna
and the Democrats are gonna make the same firestorms. So
just go ahead and set up yourself. Is within the constitutions,
within your constitutional rights. So let'sten get on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
With it now when they're all sufficient checks in place.
You know, it's not like he's going We're not going
to have judges pretending to be the president. You know,
we're not going to have the equation we have, which
we have now we have. You know, that's that's the
tyranny the founders were worried about. Here the president is
acting as magistrate and prosecutor. And when you look at
President and people should go and look this up. Look
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at President Washington's handling of the Whiskey rebellion. I mean, Mike,
you wouldn't want to be You didn't want to be
on the wrong end of George Washington.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
People don't know that Hamilton, Hamilton and Washington. Washington actually
came back and they they formed a standing army, made
Hamilton a major general, and Washing was going to come
back and do the going to be commander in chief again.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He talked about the vigorous prosecution Adams did, and Jefferson,
as I said.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Ran The Aliens Emitis Act that we're using came from
that time.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
At seventeen ninety eight, President Jackson Roosevelt used Teddy conducted
anti trust prosecutions or ran them. President Reagan shut down
a prosecution over national security concerns. So this is you know,
and I remember talking to a senior person in the
in the prior White House, the Trump White House, someone
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who's not seen as a friend of the president anymore,
but a very former senior official. And he said to me, Tom,
after all this is done, we didn't need to bring
the Justice Department back into our government. And what an
insight that was. And it's and it's true, and it's
still true, and let's stop. Let's stop giving the left
control of the Justice Department. And my theory, my working narrative,
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is our working narrative should be we need to re
assert political control of the administrative state, or over theistry,
political control of the administration state, or is the left
likes to call it democracy?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, what what is your top You've sued now the administration?
I mean, I can't believe I'm saying this, Fenton, who's
worked for years in this thing and was we called
the People's Justice Department during Obama that if hadn't been
for you, I don't know where this country would have been.
You were the one group that was in Obama's uh
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freedom of information request, suing Holder the whole thing Force
and Holder almost into a contempt charge over the gun
running situation. It was all you. How many times have
you actually sued that the current Trump administration. Oh, it's
got to be ten or twelve times. How could that possibly?
I mean, this is what's some mind by when Tom
Finton's suing, what are we doing why?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well on defense of the Trump administration, you know, fish
swim Judicial Watch sues.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So we don't get a response to our foy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Uh, we don't wait around for some politicos to say hey, you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Know, shouldn't they be instantaneously say hey, people, the people
want this information released because President Trump has said, hey,
I want all you know, declassify the stuff, get all
this stuff out here.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, FOY is a great way to get information
out and I think they should focused on that, and
I would see the lawsuits and Foys's opportunities for disclosure
rather than legal headaches.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
What is your punch list for the special prosecutor? Since
they gave pardons to Tofauci, they gave pardons to the
parts aren't valid?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Special prosecutors should proceed as if those pardons aren't valid.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They don't. We're making we're making some news. They don't give.
They're saying the partons are a total joke, and the
first they're null and void.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Remember remember they taught us about the empty set when
we were learning the null set. This is the pardons
are the empty set.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
There are no crimes in them. What what is it?
How is it you even manage that?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And now, of course there's questions how they were even
you know, granted, but this is another matter. But you
can't have a pardon for nothing. And you know under
that sery.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Blanket peremptive pardons and Tom Fitton a special prosecutor Step one,
they're gone, Yeah, we're going after the j six.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
We're gonna get them. Proceed as if they're not there.
Now doesn't mean you target someone who otherwise wouldn't have
no but you investigate the crimes associated with these individuals,
bring them in, question them, and in theory, frankly, you
can even if they are valid, you can prosecute them
and convict them, and the and the pardon kicks in
at sentencing.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
In other words, you go all the way through the trial,
show that they're showed their guilty, and then it's sentencing.
If this pardon is still valid.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You debated it that now, Steve, admittedly this is going
to be a tough sell to a lot of the
Trump administration, but this is the appropriate Trump's tough sell
to Trump, right, this isn't this is this is pure Trump.
Maybe maybe some folks, you know, there's in and out
of the room, but not to him. But this is
this is a sort of a kind of aggressive thinking
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I think is appropriate. We're in an emergency situation. These
agencies and the people that we're talking about here tried
to destroy the republic, tried to kill and jail Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's he's called I think seven national emergencies. You're saying
the emergency against the deep state is every bit is
a danger to the national security of this republicency and
you have to do this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, we lost the We almost lost our country, not
because of the border invasion, but because of what they
were doing the Trump and that's what separates us from
Russia and China. You know, it doesn't separate us from
France because France doesn't allow that type of abuse.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Hangar for one second. Tumfit is in the in the house,
Mike Lowell, We're going to talk about the US Attorney
for the District of Columbia, the Great Ed Martin. Next
in the world, Merchant.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
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Speaker 1 (15:01):
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And folks, this is why Tom Finton is a national treasure.
You stepped into the breach when nobody else would to
make sure we got justice, at least on the civil side.
For Ashley Babbitt. Huge announcement over the weekend. We don't
know the details. What can you tell us that you
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guys sued him for thirty million bucks. The Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, we sued the federal government for thirty million dollars
wrongful death. We're representing her family or her husband, Aaron,
her estate and you know, long story short, we had
this unusual court hearing on Friday in which we the
government and just you'll watch on behalf of Ashley's family
had to disclose that the settlement has been agreed to
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in principle. So the next step is they'll be essentially
it has to be finalized and something needs to be
signed and so the details us to the amount and
other details negotiating, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Will come out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So but we've agreed to it and so in principle,
and it's a great victory for the family, great victory
against the fake January sixth narrative. It blows out out
of the water, the big lie on January sixth. Ashley
was the only official homicide victim that day, and they
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tried their best to cover it up, and we blew
it out of the water in terms of exposing the
protection of bird. He was put up in the in
a hotel on Andrews Air Force Base. They literally had
the Defence Department helping protect this officer. He had a
record that makes me think he shouldn't have been nowhere
near the Capitol, let alone not even allowed to have
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a gun. And he popped out and shot this guy,
and the people around Ashley yelled, you murdered her, You
murdered her coldblood. You guys stepped up tremendous victory. Were
also going after the IRS in defense of j sixers. Yeah,
I mean, we haven't released this yet, but the IRS
was targeting I don't remember. I don't remember the name
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of a group, a group that was providing support for
the January sixth defendants and targets. So what does the
IRS do?
Speaker 6 (17:55):
They do?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What you know left wing run IRS is always do
they target the political opposition. So we've asked for records
about the targeting. We got the proverbial hand to the face.
So hopefully the Trump appointees and or the IRS bureaucrats
running the agency think better of it now that we've
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sued and start releasing information about this what looks to
be political targeting.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I've never mentioned this, but ever everything else. I also
got an auditor during those days. Never said it before,
fitting but you can bring it out of him because
you're fighting that. No every was so corrupt. This is
why Scott Best and the new crew over there is fantastic.
But these people are corrupt up to their They tried
to break these people everything that possibly could happen to patriots.
They tried to do the worst in the world. One gentleman,
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that's going to set that right. Tom As. You and
I have talked about Ed Martin, who's up to be
the US attorney, And you know how bad Graves was
here in the district. Mike Cout now joins us from
overt Heritage. Mike walked me through, and I don't understand
why this is even a controversy, Mike, What is going
on here with Ed Martin as being the new US
Attorney for the district.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
So Ed Martin was appointed by President Trump at the
start of the administration to be the US Attorney. He
gets to be in that job for one hundred and
twenty days, which ends on May twentieth. He has done
a bang up job on this central plank of Trump's
mandate to clean up Washington, DC and restore law and order.
He has gone after people carrying illegal guns. He's gone
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after people, gone after the cops. He's gone after a
whole bunch of folks. That is, previous predecessor, Matthew Graves
used that office solely to focus on January sixth, sixteen
hundred cases. So EDS turn it in to a law
enforcement operation overnight.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now here's the issue.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
If the Senate Judiciary Committee does not notice his hearing
today for a Thursday hearing, then there is not enough
time for him to get confirmed by the Senate by
May twentieth. So the Senate has a choice. Either they
can reject President Trump's law and order mandate man by
letting him time out, which then could lead to a
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fact pattern where Judge Boseburg gets to pick his replacement.
And so we hope that does not happen. I do
not think the Senate will take out President Trump's favorite
US attorney who's doing a bang up job. But will
know the answer to that question tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So the Senate Judiciary, which has Corning on it, till
Us on it, some other folks like that on it.
They have to agree with grass Lely just the set
of hearing. This is not voting in favor right now,
ved Martin. Just to notice that a hearing is going
to take place or the because it's not a public
hearing of a I guess the paperwork. You go back
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and forth, because on twentieth of May he times out
from his his interim or temporary appointment. Is that is
this the problem we got?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
That's absolutely right. The decision on whether to notice the
hearing for Thursday is Grassley is alone. But he has
to do that three days before Thursday, which is tonight.
So the question is whether he'll do that over some
objections that other Senate Republicans on the Judiciary Committee may have.
It's important to note that none of them have said
publicly they would not vote for Ed Martin. And so
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our hope is that Senator Grassley, the chairman, moves forward,
puts us on the books for Thursday, and does not
allow a situation where others in the caucus can agree
with Schumer, Durbin and Shift and all of their live
slanders and slurs to let Ed time out in the
dark of night. USA Martin deserves a vote. He is
Trump's favorite US attorney. He is doing a bang up job.
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Let's keep him in it.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Crime is correct me if I'm wrong. Crime is down
twenty five percent in the district since Ed Martin took over.
And I can tell you because the war room is
on Capitol Hill, right near the Supreme Court, you can
feel it in the neighborhood that things are much quieter
and you feel better just having Ed Martin's US attorney.
Is that correct, Mike col Oh.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It's absolutely correct, and it's projected to, you know, get
even better what he's doing to go after you know,
the juvenile crime, the gun crime, the carjacking. Not to
mention the Hamas rioters that he's already locked up the
graffiti once and we're gearing up for a very hot summer.
You see what's happening with political violence picking up. If
we don't have a lawman confirmed in this job in
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the nation's capital for this summer, we're in big trouble.
And not to mention, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of the United States of America is coming up pretty soon.
All eyes will be on Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
D C.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Trump wants the city cleaned up, he wants Ed Martin
to do it, and he is doing it. So hopefully
the Senate does not, for an unprecedented manner, take out
Trump's US attorney. They gave Matthew Graves a voice vote
no Republican objections.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
They gave Eric Holder.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
When he had the job of voice vote not to mention.
Republican senators voted for you know, Merrick Garland, May Yorkis
and and other just terrible nominees. This is unprecedented if
they are not too advanced Ed Martin. That's why I
don't think they'll.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Do it well.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Need to call the Senate to be clear. Two two
two two five three one two one. Senator Tillis needs
a special attention. He did a good job promoting Cash
betel their concerns. He's not as excited about Ed Martin.
But let's go The left isn't opposing Ed Martin because
he wants less crime in DC. In fact, they kind
of want less crime in DC too because they live here.
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But the rest of you they don't care about. The
Left opposes Ed Martin because they're afraid he will pursue
the law fair that was abused to target Trump. Chuck
Schumer has been personally going after Ed Martin with senators
I've heard remember. Ed Martin asked Schumer tough questions about
his threats to Supreme Court justices Adam Schiff has personally
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got involved in targeting Ed Martin as well. That tells
you everything they need to know about why they fear
Ed Martin. Some of the worst of the worst in
the Senate. I mean, Adam Schiff is the worst member
of Congress currently serving in terms of ethics and maliciousness.
Oh terrible, Mike out your recommendation.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We got the Article three project under Mike Davis, we
got the Bill Blaster under Grace. We've got everybody ready
to talk to Senate Judiciary today. What is your recommendation, sir?
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Let your senators on the Judiciary Committee particularly know that
Ed Martin is the right man to make DC safe
and deliver Trump's mandate. And if we don't advances by tonight,
we effectively turn over the Senate to Schumer, shift in
Durban's hands. At a time where reconciliation and everything else
is on the table, it is not the time to divide.
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It is the time to unite in advance US Attorney
Martin and make DC safe and beautiful again.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
How where do people get you? What's your social media?
Where they go at?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
It's your GOV is the oversight projects handle, And that's
because it is your government and that's what we why
we fight for you so hard and I'm at m House.
Tweets will be given out updates and encouraging everyone to
you know, stand up and stand behind USA Martin and
to push President President Trump's mandate. Man in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Your plan is amazing. Where
do people go to find out more about it? Or
we and we're now officially pushing this right. Oh, I've
been talking about it. I mean I talked about it
with you a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm not like a secret guy. It's like, this is
what needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Special prosecutor needs to be announced by President Trump reports
directly to the President at the White House.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Maybe he can't appoint himself special prosecutor, I say, half jokingly.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You would.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Actually he can hang Can you hang through the break?
Holman's doing a gaggle. We're going to figure this all out.
We're gonna have is he can we blind Let's go
to Tom Holman at the sticks.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
These Uh, we're having a US citizen child. If you
have one petition, petition for you in the future, leave
yourself open to the opportunity of legal entry, do things
the right way. There's millions of people standing in line
right now, doing things the right way, taking the test,
during the background, doing the background investigations, paying their fees.
They're sitting in the back seat while millions of people
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were allowed in this country and Biden administration that simply
don't qualify for asylum.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Most of them will lose that assylum claim.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
So while they clocking up the whole system, in addition
to those who want to come in legally, while the
fraudent millions of fraudent assignum claims under Biden administration, there
are people in this world who really are escaping fear
and persecution from the homeland. But they're sitting in the
back seat too, because millions of people cheated the system
comeing across the border releasing the United States. That caused
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a significant backlog and immigration corps, and that wasn't by accidents,
by design. Let's just overwhelm the system so it takes
five seven nine years go through the process. If they
take advantage of the the appeals process, they know exactly
what you're doing. That's why they weren't in nice attention.
(26:54):
In nice attention to get it hearing me in thirty
five days, but for release, millions of the country overwhelmed
the systems don't get hearing in five, seven, nine years.
Then maybe there's a Democrat administration in power. Now we're
gonna have an amnesty. They knew exactly what they're doing.
They're playing the long game. But we're gonna beat the map.
We're gonna we're gon We're gonna ramp up in reinforcement
operations and removals. We're gonna force the law. We're not
(27:16):
put to ignore the law like the prior administration did.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
The President says he doesn't know what his responsibilities are
under Article five of the Constitution. Who would it be
would educate him about that?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Would it be you?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I think the President is one of them, if not
the most knowledgeable president and that we've ever had. Look,
people gonna beat on President Trump all you want. President
Trump's a game changer. I've worked for six presidents, starting
with Ronald Reagan. I'm a border guy. Even President Clinton
Obama took steps to secure the border cause they understood
you can't have national security if you don't want border security.
(27:51):
No one did more than President Trump during his first
uh administration. We we hand the Biden administration the most
secure border in my lifetime, and he purposely unsecured it.
First president history of the nation to do that. Look
at what President Trump achieved in eight weeks. He did
in eight weeks what Joe Biden couldn't wouldn't do in
four years. We have the most secure boarded in the
(28:12):
history of the station right now because of President Trump,
the greatest president in my lifetime. You can quote me
on that figures with thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's Homan right there. What did Homan just say? Remember
the Langford Bill was two million a year until anything
kicked in. Trump shut it all down in sixty days.
Tom Home. Now they're talking about a new and centive
program to get and deport it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
They got to get out of like five thousand people
today just to reverse the invasion.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm telling you the ten million. This is why they're
trying to make it so difficult. Now, thank you for
coming by this one of the business guys in DC.
I just want to reiterate the Fintin recommendation to the
President of the United to our chief Magistrate in chief
law enforcement officer, which the guy that occupies the Oval office.
You're recommending a appointment of a special prosecutor, special counsel.
(29:07):
You're saying, if you go back and look at the
Constitution and by customer and tradition, that you believe that
President Trump should keep open the possibility of appointing himself
maybe with a Matt Gates as a deputy. Is that
what I'm hearing?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Or Jeff Clark or Rudy. He could bring Rudy back in.
I said, deputy. Uh, he's as sharp as attack and
has more experience.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love this so much. I just got to I
want to make sure you and I are because we
go back a long way. We're not trolling here. This
is serious now because when he said Trump the special prosecutor, Gates, Clark, Rudy,
They're literally gonna explode. They're gonna lose. So the point
is I'm highlighting.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You know, there's there's kind of like, oh, that would
be the perfect response, right, but their response is short
of that. And I'm highlighting for the for your listeners
and the American people, educating them on the powers of
the presidency and Attorney General BONDI can get support from
the President to get this done. He can like short
of this, just direct the Attorney General to engage in
(30:09):
the criminal investigations and any resulting prosecutions and manage it
as closely as he wants. This fake new this fake
constitutional construct that the Left has stuffed down to justify
their tax on Nixon, the total lie is not only
a lie, but it's a dangerous lie because it gives
that awesome power of prosecution to unelected bureaucrats or people
(30:33):
who aren't subjected to the checks the founders intended to
have in place, meaning the president running the show.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Very powerful a Tom Finn and once again a big
focus that should be on the administrative and the deep
state to focus this because we've got a one time
shot that is one of the you believe the most
significant threat to this republic.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, we had a collusion and abuse of power to
undo a presidential election, an attempt to undo a presidential
election or rig it in twenty twenty four. And part
of that was not only the actual rigging by putting
the candidate in jail and constraining him during the campaign,
but also to curtail any questions or election integrity activity
(31:21):
by the opposition by suggesting anyone who does that will
go to jail. And that's why they criminalized the First
Amendment and executive power related under the Constitution. As far
as the President was concerned activities questioning the twenty twenty election,
it was about making sure those people wouldn't show up
on twenty twenty four at twenty twenty four and raise questions.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It didn't work because groups like Judicial Watch we weren't cowed.
Trump wasn't cowed. The American people rejected it outright, and
they tried, but they failed, and it doesn't mean they
won't try again, and they will try again unless there
are consequences. And certainly not doing an investigation is not
(32:05):
what the American people expected out of this Justice.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Department and FBI.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And now they say, maybe there's something going on secretly
we don't know about, and that just sounds very cute
like today and I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's also too I mean, because those buildings haven't changed,
because it take you a while to change them. You
got to get on with this. Your your point is exactly,
Pam and cash are they get so much going on
and those buildings aren't with them. So the best that
just be some marginal thing. This is where he said
it's the reason for being the Special Prosecutor is solely
to do this and to report to the president directly.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It lifts the burden from the FBI and Justice Department,
so Cash can spend his time decimating the FBI, shuddering
it so that the only people left are him and
a skeleton crew.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You and I totally agree with this. The FPI is
gonna be broken apart.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right, There's nothing the FBI does that can't be done
by another federal agents is better and with more focus.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Tom Fitton, where do you go for social media? Amazing? Well,
we're at judicialwatch dot org. Uh, and I'm all over
social Where did they get all your social media? Is
it your account? Social media?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's both, it's judicial Judicial Watch on x at Tom Fitton,
similarly on Rumble YouTube, Facebook.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know, we're everywhere and uh. And this is what
drives the left crazy. It's because we know what we're
talking about. We've got some of the best lawyers in
the country working on our cases, whether it be on
election integrity. I mean, the work we did on the
Ashley Babbitt case is unbelievable. You know, I was thinking
about all these crazy law firms out there that Trump,
(33:38):
you know, highlighted their anti American approaches. We've been doing
this work for thirty years. Not once have we received
pro bono legal help from any of these giant law firms,
not once.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Incredible, and the left gets it all the time. Yeah,
but we do it anyway. Amazing. Thank you for Ashley
Babbitt and that incredible Thanks you after Tom, the Great
Tom Finton, Do I have Jillian up? Do I have Poso? Okay,
Jacks getting ready. We're gonna get to Jack Musoak in
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gonna break down the US dollar. Hopefully, hopefully Celia be here.
You spend a minute or two in the in this
(35:58):
show to tee it up, because this is the road
to Rio, the reset, This is the bricks, the alternative
they're looking to the US dollar. Remember, we are who
we are because of the dollars of prime reserve currency. Now,
I have always said, you need a national debate, you
need a national debate about whether we want to be
the prime reserve currency or not. And that's something we
are going to have over the next couple of years
(36:20):
because it comes with a tremendous amount of burdens, but
it also has benefits. One of the benefits that you
can finance kind of what you're doing if you go
over to Citizens Free Press. The Great Kane, who joined
us on Saturday for a blockbuster hour, broke it all
down of his You know, he got into this business
in the news business because of his obsession with spending,
(36:41):
and particularly with federal spending. The shot put across us
as we said, we don't we're not going to have
just free rain to do what we want anymore. Why
do I say that. Well, the Central Bank of Japan,
the Bank of the Bank of Japan, put a shot
across our bow over the weekend. What did they tell
the Financial Times? It said, hey, look, Scott Bessen, we're
negotiating a new trade deal. And yes, you're right, there's
(37:03):
all types of non trade barriers. That's why you're not
selling Fords and Chevies in Japan. And we're gonna work
all that out and we're going to be part of
your block, and you know, we're not going to be
dependent upon the Chinese Communist Party. But they said, hey,
this over trillion dollars that we actually have in your
of government securities has to be part of this negotiation.
(37:24):
Remember the Chinese owned basically a tree in the Japanese
own a tree. And when you look at the big
beautiful bill right now, the reconciliation part, at least that
coming out of the House, it's one hundred and sixty
three billion dollars cut. But hey, yo, you've added that
back with the additional defense spending. And I believe if
you add the one hundred and seventy billion dollars for
the deportations of ten million illegals, I'm not so sure.
(37:48):
We get the cuts, I'm not sure we get much
cuts at all of the at one point eight to
two percent to and hared percent growth you're gonna get
you know. Bottom line is we can have a two
to two and have tree and dollar deficit two and
a half to two to two and a half. Uh,
two to two and a half tree and dollars of deficit.
(38:09):
So uh, you know how you're going to finance it.
Scott Besson's got to sell I don't know, ten to
twelve trillion dollars of government securities. So with that, this
is why we're talking about the revenue side of the equation.
Where is that going to come from? Right now? If
you add in the recision, Uh, we don't need to
hook anybody up. We're good, just gonna be me. The
if you look at the recisions right now, if you
(38:32):
look at the extension of the task cut, particularly particularly
for folks that are the pop are populous tax cuts,
and that would be no tax on social security, no
tax on overtime, no tax on tips, that's going to
make it even bigger. So uh, really glad and honored.
We're doing a tea up for six o'clock tonight. Celia Motion.
(38:53):
You join us now, the author of the book I've
been I've been raving about this book, Paper Soldiers, the
weaponization of the Dollar, and how changed the world order.
You're going to be our guest for an entire hour
to night as we talk about this road to the
Rio Reset, the Road to the Bricks Nations and Rio. Why?
How did how did weaponization of the dollar actually change
(39:16):
the world order? I mean, why is this such a
big deal? Because this book, I tell people, and it
has our favorite Chris Leonard at the top, who wrote
Lords of Easy Money, a true feat of revelatory journalism.
If you only read one book to understand American economic
and political power in the world today, it should be
this one. Why is that.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The US has been able to impose a lot of
geopolitical and foreign policy strength around the world because of
just how large the US economy is and all of
the pillars that underpin that economy. The pillars are the
strength of the US democracy. We have rule of law,
We have independent agencies like the Federal Reserve, We have
(39:57):
courts that are respected. We have free and fair elections.
This is not a autocracy, This is not a dictatorship.
Businesses and foreign investors and foreign central banks know that
there is a predictability and stability that comes with an
investment in the US dollar. And that has given the
US enormous power because there's this faith and credibility that
(40:18):
the US will always be there to kind of save
the day or will always pay its debt on time.
And this is from the genesis of the country. The
very first treasure secretary that the US had is Alexander.
It was Alexander Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Who was obsessed by getting national debt credit.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Absolutely. He wrote this great report called the Report on
Public Credit for Congress and back then, yes, just like
I look for leaks and advance information on what a
treasure secretary is thinking. It happened back then to a
lot of people wanted to have access to this report
in advance in the seventeen eighties. But he talked about
how debt is a national blessing, our credit, the faith
(40:59):
in our credit is the price of our liberty.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Boy, and he and he and Jefferson fought it out
over that. I get you for about another two minutes.
You're going to be back with us for an hour
tonight at six o'clock. Go through it, but everything you
talk about is correct. But in kind of that entire time,
particularly Moundern time, it's always been about having a strong
dollar all of a sudden and actually wanted the dollar
to be super strong. Has that changed? Is a mentality
(41:24):
on that changed about having actually a strong dollar means
a strong country, a strong America versus all this talk
about a week dollar.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Well, there's two definitions of the dollar that we shouldn't conflate.
One is just the foreign exchange rate value. We've always
wanted that our dollar can purchase a lot of goods
overseas because we have a consumer driven economy. We can
export growth and drive growth for the world because we
consume a lot, so come sell to us. We can
buy a lot because our dollar foreign exchange rate value
(41:52):
is strong. The second definition is just the global dominance.
The dollar is on ninety two percent of one end
of every transaction that takes place in the world, So
you cannot possibly transact in the world without touching the years.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Something like seventy five percent of all debt issued by
foreign countries or issue or dollar denominated.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Everyone's you know, insatiable appetite for American.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Dollars and so This is what we're going to talk
about because the bricks nations are going to have in
Rio in July. This quote unquote the Rio reset or
whatever they're talking about. This is about the dollar as
the prime reserve currency, correct, right? And so? And is
that in Uh, that's kind of up in the air
right now. It wouldn't. It hasn't been questioned since World
War Two. It's quite difficult to get off the dollars
(42:38):
you just said. But there are voices out there they're saying,
are the Americans running too many things by being the
prime reserve currency? Correct?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
But when you're the superpower, there's always those voices out
there wondering is this the right thing for us?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
When you're the hedgemon, when you're the hegemon of finance,
do you have to be the hedgemon in manufacturing to
do that? Because when this was set up, we were
a manufacturing hegemond. It was the end of the war.
We were the only country, only major power that was
not devastated financially or economically.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I don't know the answer to whether you have to
have the strength in manufacturing, but you have to have
the world's largest economy to have this kind of strength
and being the world's reserve asset.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, you're gonna be back at six o'clock. We're going
to go through the entire hour. We're gonna go through
the history of it, go back to the founding of
the nation, all of it, and talk about the weaponization Wirelson,
talk about what's happening in Iran, other places where the dollar,
sanctions and other things have are not just quite as
as easy as people think, and definitely have blowback on
(43:38):
the American people. Short commercial break. We're gonna be back
in the war room in just a moment. This would
take it down.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Let's say sad thing for the world on the hot
kom we will fight till the love God.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
We literally swell.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Let's stick down.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Bas Wow, what a day. A lot. I think second
hundred days with the President Trump's administration the second term,
and I talked about it on Saturday. I gave a
talk over at russ votes former shop Center for Renewing America.
I was a closing keynote, and I talked about the
converging crisis crises. One is this constitutional crisis. We're definitely
(44:25):
going to have and you've had Tom Finton here this
morning that Tom Finton says, hey, you ought to double
a triple down because he's talking about an independent prosecutor.
But that's an entire issue now with the courts, and
we're going to hammer this one out. But you can
see that coming. I think it's mid juniridgely. In addition,
you've got the situation with the with the different parts
of the kinetic, the kinetic part of the Third World War.
(44:47):
You heard MTG. A lot of the base just thinks
we're off track on this should be focused on the
southern border and what's coming here with fentanyl and the
Mixican cartels. A lot of discontent with the Ukraine situation,
and as the details come out of the economic deal.
So that's another big aspect. That's all conversion as President
Trump tries to balance all that. And of course President
(45:09):
She has accepted and will be in attendance from May
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(45:31):
is the middle part, which you told the economics and
the finance part, and to get the big beautiful bill right,
but also the spending I'm just not seeing that all
the spending cuts that have to be codified. We got
the tax situation, and then the discussion of the trade
and the trade deals and the tariffs and all that.
The Japanese the Central Bank put a shot across our
vow that said, hey, oh, by the way, in any
(45:51):
discussion we're going to have on trade, we got to
talk about the tradeing dollars of US government securities we
own and what is our appetite for all that. So
we're going to get into all that over the next
couple of days, and of course, a lot of focus
right now on President Trump and getting back when this
very dangerous second hundred days. As we're commencing right now,
(46:11):
Mike Lindel joins us. Mike the Romania. In Romania, we won,
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This is the most powerful and most important of all
(50:32):
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This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
There's not got a free shot.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
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I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
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And where do people like that go to share the
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Mega media?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
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Monday, five May, year of Rolwer, twenty twenty five. Okay, MTG.
Because over the weekend she was up about all this
about the Capitol Hill guys not supporting President Trump and
the base on what they want to see done. We
didn't get into the other part, which is the destructive deconstruction,
administrative state, take down the deep state, all this other aspects.
And the reason is we have the Greek Tom Finton,
(01:10):
who was kind enough to say, hey, I can come
by today and do this in person. So, Fenton, here's
a question. This article two or the unitary executive. He's
chief executive officer of the United States Government. He can
cut money, he can fire personnel number two. He's Commander
in chief of the Armed Forces. He can attack, send
(01:31):
bad guys out of the country. He can call for
military action number three, which is sometimes lost, sometimes lost.
He's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the
US government. Full stop, am I correct?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You are President's Washington's, President Adams, President Jefferson, President Madison,
President Roosevelt one, and President Roosevelt two. President Lincoln famously
all initiated, stopped, and directly managed federal prosecutions. Old hit
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every one on that they did what initiated or stopped
and directed federal prosecutions. In fact, reviewing the material on
this over the weekend, the Chief Justice Marshall yelled at,
yelled at the Jefferson administration for not moving quickly enough
(02:29):
on the Aaron Burr prosecution. And he specifically was targeting
Jefferson because Jefferson was running the prosecution. I mean to
the point of being involved. The best I understand it,
and by the way, depositions and such, so, you know,
so practically preach reason.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It was not a small case.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And the president was referred to as the chief executive magistrate.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Under the constitution, you know, the powers of the president
require the laws be faithfully executed.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And how is constitution and custom and tradition, Well, yes,
on top of that, well, the custom and tradition flows
from the obvious nature of his job as chief executive.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes, And so what does that mean in the modern era. Well,
in theory, it means President Trump could run the trial
in any prosecution. He'd be in there playing prosecutor if
he so chose. Chris Hayes, I hope your producers perfect.
Ariy Melver, give me that again, sir, to give me
that again for the.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hary Melver Ariy Melver show.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The president could conduct the prosecution quite literally, conduct the prosecution. Now,
there may be some rules related to the court rules about
you know, lawyers being involved and such. But the point
is he can run the prosecution, request an investigation, demand
and report back. And this is what I think he
should do. And we talked about this before. He should
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set up a special prosecutor separate in part from the
FBI and the Justice Department, and he used the Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The reason is is we've got there, but they're so
overwhelmed with what they got.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And conflicted institutionally, they're conflicted. Yes, the FBI guys aren't
going to take out the FBI. There aren't enough DOJ
good people in DJ. We don't control those We don't
control those buildings right now. So because you can't, it's
going to take a while. So the president can can
set this up.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He appoints a special prosecutor, and that special prosecutor does
not report to the Attorney General, reports to him. That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
An independent unit, an independent prosecutorial unit, investigative unit. He
can have it staffed with individuals from other law enforcement
agencies in the federal government, or contract with private experts
and you know, private entities to do investigations and any
criminal investigation or ultimately prosecution, and he can sign off.
(04:53):
He can be as detail oriented as he wants in
terms of signing off on depositions, sub poenas you know, leads,
what is pursued. But he can be quite involved and
he can in the end, bless the prosecution one way
or the other. Now he may want to take the
Attorney General's advice as to the validity, the strength the
weakness of the prosecution, but in the end he makes
(05:14):
the decision. And even short of that, he can go
over he can call Pam Bomdi over here today to
his oval office and say, tell me what's going on,
what prosecutions you're considering. Have you looked at this? Why
aren't you looking at this? I want you to look
at this, and I want you to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hang on, Ever since Watergate, that's been verboten, right, that
was the whole purpose of Watergate is to hive off
the Justice Department so it could not it would not
have any association with the executive branch and particularly the
office of the President.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, no one's suggesting a corrupt abuse of office here.
We're suggesting the vigorous exercise of his constitutional responsibilities, duties,
and powers to ensure that the rule of law is vindicated.
And does it mean targeting someone specific Fippley, just because
you don't like them, you know they're the You still
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have the rule of law, you still have judges, you
still have the constitutional protections right due process, and and
and defendants get all the rights and witnesses or targets.
No one suggesting will that be thrown out. But I'm
suggesting is that the Justice Department of the FBI are
hopelessly conflicted. Really, I don't even trust they're competent enough
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to get it done despite the new leadership. And it's
not it's no sphere on the leadership. We just know
they're they're crack pop.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Institutionally, these things are still riven with with with deep staters,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you know, in terms of the appearance of justice,
whether or not they are otherwise, you know, oh, they
may have a whole bunch of perfect staff, but the
American people have lost confidence in both agencies. And you know,
I was talking to Marjorie Tayley Green on the way out.
You know, she made the point her constituents are upset
about this, and you know, our friends in the administration
(07:00):
want to blame me or Marjorie or others for highlighting
these issues and getting people riled up. It's like, why
are you kidding me? People instinctively know what's going on.
They don't need Tom Fitton or MTG or Steve Bannon
to tell them what to think. Donald Trump doesn't need
any of us to tell him what to think. So
this is this is a grassroots concern about the lack
(07:22):
of justice and accountability. And and uh, you know, and
and frankly, our friends in the d O J and
FBI are giving us the equivalent of Q drops every week. Oh,
don't trust trust us. There's a plan, We're gonna roll
them up. There's a plan, there's no plan. There may
be a prosecution or two. There've been significant firings which
(07:42):
are necessary but woefully insufficient. And the President should tell
cash treat FBI like us, and in the meantime, treat
USA FBI like US.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
A I D.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're trying scatter and scatter you believe, because it's May
of twenty twenty five. We're burning down. I tell people,
if if the deep state is not shattered on Trump's
watch and destroyed, it's going to come back. It's going
to come back bigger than ever. It's got to be done.
It's got to be done now. I mean, I was
I was talking about online the other day. You went
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to jail for contempt to Congress. Pete Navarro went to
jail for contempt to Congress. Garland wasn't prosecuted by the
Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Why you know, he hit these the videos he hit
he hit the audio of the Biden interview because they
covered up his mental incapacities by keeping that video that
audio quiet. He refused and went into contempt to Congress
rather than turn it over. Why is it the Bondi
Justice Department prosecuted him. I mean, it's it's right there.
(08:47):
It's there's a package right there from the prior administration.
They can re evaluate and review and decide whether the
prosecutor or not. And as I was saying at the
beginning of the show, it's now time. I would suggest,
respectfully to the President that if he wants this done,
he should just do it, order it, get it done.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Because they're going to even if the two departments could
do it, which clearly they're overwhelmed. The media is gonna
and the Democrats are gonna make the same firestorms. So
just go ahead and set up yourself. Is within the constitutions,
within your constitutional rights. So let'sten get on.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
With it now when they're all sufficient checks in place.
You know, it's not like he's going We're not going
to have judges pretending to be the president. You know,
we're not going to have the equation we have, which
we have now we have. You know, that's that's the
tyranny the founders were worried about. Here the president is
acting as magistrate and prosecutor. And when you look at
President and people should go and look this up. Look
(09:41):
at President Washington's handling of the Whiskey rebellion. I mean, Mike,
you wouldn't want to be You didn't want to be
on the wrong end of George Washington.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
People don't know that Hamilton, Hamilton and Washington. Washington actually
came back and they they formed a standing army, made
Hamilton a major general, and Washing was going to come
back and do the going to be commander in chief again.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He talked about the vigorous prosecution Adams did, and Jefferson,
as I said.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Ran The Aliens Emitis Act that we're using came from
that time.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
At seventeen ninety eight, President Jackson Roosevelt used Teddy conducted
anti trust prosecutions or ran them. President Reagan shut down
a prosecution over national security concerns. So this is you know,
and I remember talking to a senior person in the
in the prior White House, the Trump White House, someone
(10:32):
who's not seen as a friend of the president anymore,
but a very former senior official. And he said to me, Tom,
after all this is done, we didn't need to bring
the Justice Department back into our government. And what an
insight that was. And it's and it's true, and it's
still true, and let's stop. Let's stop giving the left
control of the Justice Department. And my theory, my working narrative,
(10:56):
is our working narrative should be we need to re
assert political control of the administrative state, or over theistry,
political control of the administration state, or is the left
likes to call it democracy?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, what what is your top You've sued now the administration?
I mean, I can't believe I'm saying this, Fenton, who's
worked for years in this thing and was we called
the People's Justice Department during Obama that if hadn't been
for you, I don't know where this country would have been.
You were the one group that was in Obama's uh
(11:31):
freedom of information request, suing Holder the whole thing Force
and Holder almost into a contempt charge over the gun
running situation. It was all you. How many times have
you actually sued that the current Trump administration. Oh, it's
got to be ten or twelve times. How could that possibly?
I mean, this is what's some mind by when Tom
Finton's suing, what are we doing why?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well on defense of the Trump administration, you know, fish
swim Judicial Watch sues.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So we don't get a response to our foy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Uh, we don't wait around for some politicos to say hey, you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Know, shouldn't they be instantaneously say hey, people, the people
want this information released because President Trump has said, hey,
I want all you know, declassify the stuff, get all
this stuff out here.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, FOY is a great way to get information
out and I think they should focused on that, and
I would see the lawsuits and Foys's opportunities for disclosure
rather than legal headaches.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
What is your punch list for the special prosecutor? Since
they gave pardons to Tofauci, they gave pardons to the
parts aren't valid?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Special prosecutors should proceed as if those pardons aren't valid.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They don't. We're making we're making some news. They don't give.
They're saying the partons are a total joke, and the
first they're null and void.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Remember remember they taught us about the empty set when
we were learning the null set. This is the pardons
are the empty set.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
There are no crimes in them. What what is it?
How is it you even manage that?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And now, of course there's questions how they were even
you know, granted, but this is another matter. But you
can't have a pardon for nothing. And you know under
that sery.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Blanket peremptive pardons and Tom Fitton a special prosecutor Step one,
they're gone, Yeah, we're going after the j six.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
We're gonna get them. Proceed as if they're not there.
Now doesn't mean you target someone who otherwise wouldn't have
no but you investigate the crimes associated with these individuals,
bring them in, question them, and in theory, frankly, you
can even if they are valid, you can prosecute them
and convict them, and the and the pardon kicks in
at sentencing.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
In other words, you go all the way through the trial,
show that they're showed their guilty, and then it's sentencing.
If this pardon is still valid.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You debated it that now, Steve, admittedly this is going
to be a tough sell to a lot of the
Trump administration, but this is the appropriate Trump's tough sell
to Trump, right, this isn't this is this is pure Trump.
Maybe maybe some folks, you know, there's in and out
of the room, but not to him. But this is
this is a sort of a kind of aggressive thinking
(14:02):
I think is appropriate. We're in an emergency situation. These
agencies and the people that we're talking about here tried
to destroy the republic, tried to kill and jail Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's he's called I think seven national emergencies. You're saying
the emergency against the deep state is every bit is
a danger to the national security of this republicency and
you have to do this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, we lost the We almost lost our country, not
because of the border invasion, but because of what they
were doing the Trump and that's what separates us from
Russia and China. You know, it doesn't separate us from
France because France doesn't allow that type of abuse.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Hangar for one second. Tumfit is in the in the house,
Mike Lowell, We're going to talk about the US Attorney
for the District of Columbia, the Great Ed Martin. Next
in the world, Merchant.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
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And folks, this is why Tom Finton is a national treasure.
You stepped into the breach when nobody else would to
make sure we got justice, at least on the civil side.
For Ashley Babbitt. Huge announcement over the weekend. We don't
know the details. What can you tell us that you
(16:05):
guys sued him for thirty million bucks. The Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, we sued the federal government for thirty million dollars
wrongful death. We're representing her family or her husband, Aaron,
her estate and you know, long story short, we had
this unusual court hearing on Friday in which we the
government and just you'll watch on behalf of Ashley's family
had to disclose that the settlement has been agreed to
(16:31):
in principle. So the next step is they'll be essentially
it has to be finalized and something needs to be
signed and so the details us to the amount and
other details negotiating, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Will come out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So but we've agreed to it and so in principle,
and it's a great victory for the family, great victory
against the fake January sixth narrative. It blows out out
of the water, the big lie on January sixth. Ashley
was the only official homicide victim that day, and they
(17:03):
tried their best to cover it up, and we blew
it out of the water in terms of exposing the
protection of bird. He was put up in the in
a hotel on Andrews Air Force Base. They literally had
the Defence Department helping protect this officer. He had a
record that makes me think he shouldn't have been nowhere
near the Capitol, let alone not even allowed to have
(17:25):
a gun. And he popped out and shot this guy,
and the people around Ashley yelled, you murdered her, You
murdered her coldblood. You guys stepped up tremendous victory. Were
also going after the IRS in defense of j sixers. Yeah,
I mean, we haven't released this yet, but the IRS
was targeting I don't remember. I don't remember the name
(17:46):
of a group, a group that was providing support for
the January sixth defendants and targets. So what does the
IRS do?
Speaker 6 (17:55):
They do?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What you know left wing run IRS is always do
they target the political opposition. So we've asked for records
about the targeting. We got the proverbial hand to the face.
So hopefully the Trump appointees and or the IRS bureaucrats
running the agency think better of it now that we've
(18:16):
sued and start releasing information about this what looks to
be political targeting.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I've never mentioned this, but ever everything else. I also
got an auditor during those days. Never said it before,
fitting but you can bring it out of him because
you're fighting that. No every was so corrupt. This is
why Scott Best and the new crew over there is fantastic.
But these people are corrupt up to their They tried
to break these people everything that possibly could happen to patriots.
They tried to do the worst in the world. One gentleman,
(18:44):
that's going to set that right. Tom As. You and
I have talked about Ed Martin, who's up to be
the US attorney, And you know how bad Graves was
here in the district. Mike Cout now joins us from
overt Heritage. Mike walked me through, and I don't understand
why this is even a controversy, Mike, What is going
on here with Ed Martin as being the new US
Attorney for the district.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
So Ed Martin was appointed by President Trump at the
start of the administration to be the US Attorney. He
gets to be in that job for one hundred and
twenty days, which ends on May twentieth. He has done
a bang up job on this central plank of Trump's
mandate to clean up Washington, DC and restore law and order.
He has gone after people carrying illegal guns. He's gone
(19:27):
after people, gone after the cops. He's gone after a
whole bunch of folks. That is, previous predecessor, Matthew Graves
used that office solely to focus on January sixth, sixteen
hundred cases. So EDS turn it in to a law
enforcement operation overnight.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now here's the issue.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
If the Senate Judiciary Committee does not notice his hearing
today for a Thursday hearing, then there is not enough
time for him to get confirmed by the Senate by
May twentieth. So the Senate has a choice. Either they
can reject President Trump's law and order mandate man by
letting him time out, which then could lead to a
(20:05):
fact pattern where Judge Boseburg gets to pick his replacement.
And so we hope that does not happen. I do
not think the Senate will take out President Trump's favorite
US attorney who's doing a bang up job. But will
know the answer to that question tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So the Senate Judiciary, which has Corning on it, till
Us on it, some other folks like that on it.
They have to agree with grass Lely just the set
of hearing. This is not voting in favor right now,
ved Martin. Just to notice that a hearing is going
to take place or the because it's not a public
hearing of a I guess the paperwork. You go back
(20:42):
and forth, because on twentieth of May he times out
from his his interim or temporary appointment. Is that is
this the problem we got?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
That's absolutely right. The decision on whether to notice the
hearing for Thursday is Grassley is alone. But he has
to do that three days before Thursday, which is tonight.
So the question is whether he'll do that over some
objections that other Senate Republicans on the Judiciary Committee may have.
It's important to note that none of them have said
publicly they would not vote for Ed Martin. And so
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our hope is that Senator Grassley, the chairman, moves forward,
puts us on the books for Thursday, and does not
allow a situation where others in the caucus can agree
with Schumer, Durbin and Shift and all of their live
slanders and slurs to let Ed time out in the
dark of night. USA Martin deserves a vote. He is
Trump's favorite US attorney. He is doing a bang up job.
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Let's keep him in it.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Crime is correct me if I'm wrong. Crime is down
twenty five percent in the district since Ed Martin took over.
And I can tell you because the war room is
on Capitol Hill, right near the Supreme Court, you can
feel it in the neighborhood that things are much quieter
and you feel better just having Ed Martin's US attorney.
Is that correct, Mike col Oh.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It's absolutely correct, and it's projected to, you know, get
even better what he's doing to go after you know,
the juvenile crime, the gun crime, the carjacking. Not to
mention the Hamas rioters that he's already locked up the
graffiti once and we're gearing up for a very hot summer.
You see what's happening with political violence picking up. If
we don't have a lawman confirmed in this job in
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the nation's capital for this summer, we're in big trouble.
And not to mention, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of the United States of America is coming up pretty soon.
All eyes will be on Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
D C.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Trump wants the city cleaned up, he wants Ed Martin
to do it, and he is doing it. So hopefully
the Senate does not, for an unprecedented manner, take out
Trump's US attorney. They gave Matthew Graves a voice vote
no Republican objections.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
They gave Eric Holder.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
When he had the job of voice vote not to mention.
Republican senators voted for you know, Merrick Garland, May Yorkis
and and other just terrible nominees. This is unprecedented if
they are not too advanced Ed Martin. That's why I
don't think they'll.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Do it well.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Need to call the Senate to be clear. Two two
two two five three one two one. Senator Tillis needs
a special attention. He did a good job promoting Cash
betel their concerns. He's not as excited about Ed Martin.
But let's go The left isn't opposing Ed Martin because
he wants less crime in DC. In fact, they kind
of want less crime in DC too because they live here.
(23:21):
But the rest of you they don't care about. The
Left opposes Ed Martin because they're afraid he will pursue
the law fair that was abused to target Trump. Chuck
Schumer has been personally going after Ed Martin with senators
I've heard remember. Ed Martin asked Schumer tough questions about
his threats to Supreme Court justices Adam Schiff has personally
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got involved in targeting Ed Martin as well. That tells
you everything they need to know about why they fear
Ed Martin. Some of the worst of the worst in
the Senate. I mean, Adam Schiff is the worst member
of Congress currently serving in terms of ethics and maliciousness.
Oh terrible, Mike out your recommendation.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We got the Article three project under Mike Davis, we
got the Bill Blaster under Grace. We've got everybody ready
to talk to Senate Judiciary today. What is your recommendation, sir?
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Let your senators on the Judiciary Committee particularly know that
Ed Martin is the right man to make DC safe
and deliver Trump's mandate. And if we don't advances by tonight,
we effectively turn over the Senate to Schumer, shift in
Durban's hands. At a time where reconciliation and everything else
is on the table, it is not the time to divide.
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It is the time to unite in advance US Attorney
Martin and make DC safe and beautiful again.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
How where do people get you? What's your social media?
Where they go at?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
It's your GOV is the oversight projects handle, And that's
because it is your government and that's what we why
we fight for you so hard and I'm at m House.
Tweets will be given out updates and encouraging everyone to
you know, stand up and stand behind USA Martin and
to push President President Trump's mandate. Man in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you. Your plan is amazing. Where
do people go to find out more about it? Or
we and we're now officially pushing this right. Oh, I've
been talking about it. I mean I talked about it
with you a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm not like a secret guy. It's like, this is
what needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Special prosecutor needs to be announced by President Trump reports
directly to the President at the White House.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Maybe he can't appoint himself special prosecutor, I say, half jokingly.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You would.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Actually he can hang Can you hang through the break?
Holman's doing a gaggle. We're going to figure this all out.
We're gonna have is he can we blind Let's go
to Tom Holman at the sticks.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
These Uh, we're having a US citizen child. If you
have one petition, petition for you in the future, leave
yourself open to the opportunity of legal entry, do things
the right way. There's millions of people standing in line
right now, doing things the right way, taking the test,
during the background, doing the background investigations, paying their fees.
They're sitting in the back seat while millions of people
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were allowed in this country and Biden administration that simply
don't qualify for asylum.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Most of them will lose that assylum claim.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
So while they clocking up the whole system, in addition
to those who want to come in legally, while the
fraudent millions of fraudent assignum claims under Biden administration, there
are people in this world who really are escaping fear
and persecution from the homeland. But they're sitting in the
back seat too, because millions of people cheated the system
comeing across the border releasing the United States. That caused
(26:34):
a significant backlog and immigration corps, and that wasn't by accidents,
by design. Let's just overwhelm the system so it takes
five seven nine years go through the process. If they
take advantage of the the appeals process, they know exactly
what you're doing. That's why they weren't in nice attention.
(26:54):
In nice attention to get it hearing me in thirty
five days, but for release, millions of the country overwhelmed
the systems don't get hearing in five, seven, nine years.
Then maybe there's a Democrat administration in power. Now we're
gonna have an amnesty. They knew exactly what they're doing.
They're playing the long game. But we're gonna beat the map.
We're gonna we're gon We're gonna ramp up in reinforcement
operations and removals. We're gonna force the law. We're not
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put to ignore the law like the prior administration did.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
The President says he doesn't know what his responsibilities are
under Article five of the Constitution. Who would it be
would educate him about that?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Would it be you?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I think the President is one of them, if not
the most knowledgeable president and that we've ever had. Look,
people gonna beat on President Trump all you want. President
Trump's a game changer. I've worked for six presidents, starting
with Ronald Reagan. I'm a border guy. Even President Clinton
Obama took steps to secure the border cause they understood
you can't have national security if you don't want border security.
(27:51):
No one did more than President Trump during his first
uh administration. We we hand the Biden administration the most
secure border in my lifetime, and he purposely unsecured it.
First president history of the nation to do that. Look
at what President Trump achieved in eight weeks. He did
in eight weeks what Joe Biden couldn't wouldn't do in
four years. We have the most secure boarded in the
(28:12):
history of the station right now because of President Trump,
the greatest president in my lifetime. You can quote me
on that figures with thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's Homan right there. What did Homan just say? Remember
the Langford Bill was two million a year until anything
kicked in. Trump shut it all down in sixty days.
Tom Home. Now they're talking about a new and centive
program to get and deport it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
They got to get out of like five thousand people
today just to reverse the invasion.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm telling you the ten million. This is why they're
trying to make it so difficult. Now, thank you for
coming by this one of the business guys in DC.
I just want to reiterate the Fintin recommendation to the
President of the United to our chief Magistrate in chief
law enforcement officer, which the guy that occupies the Oval office.
You're recommending a appointment of a special prosecutor, special counsel.
(29:07):
You're saying, if you go back and look at the
Constitution and by customer and tradition, that you believe that
President Trump should keep open the possibility of appointing himself
maybe with a Matt Gates as a deputy. Is that
what I'm hearing?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Or Jeff Clark or Rudy. He could bring Rudy back in.
I said, deputy. Uh, he's as sharp as attack and
has more experience.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I love this so much. I just got to I
want to make sure you and I are because we
go back a long way. We're not trolling here. This
is serious now because when he said Trump the special prosecutor, Gates, Clark, Rudy,
They're literally gonna explode. They're gonna lose. So the point
is I'm highlighting.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You know, there's there's kind of like, oh, that would
be the perfect response, right, but their response is short
of that. And I'm highlighting for the for your listeners
and the American people, educating them on the powers of
the presidency and Attorney General BONDI can get support from
the President to get this done. He can like short
of this, just direct the Attorney General to engage in
(30:09):
the criminal investigations and any resulting prosecutions and manage it
as closely as he wants. This fake new this fake
constitutional construct that the Left has stuffed down to justify
their tax on Nixon, the total lie is not only
a lie, but it's a dangerous lie because it gives
that awesome power of prosecution to unelected bureaucrats or people
(30:33):
who aren't subjected to the checks the founders intended to
have in place, meaning the president running the show.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Very powerful a Tom Finn and once again a big
focus that should be on the administrative and the deep
state to focus this because we've got a one time
shot that is one of the you believe the most
significant threat to this republic.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, we had a collusion and abuse of power to
undo a presidential election, an attempt to undo a presidential
election or rig it in twenty twenty four. And part
of that was not only the actual rigging by putting
the candidate in jail and constraining him during the campaign,
but also to curtail any questions or election integrity activity
(31:21):
by the opposition by suggesting anyone who does that will
go to jail. And that's why they criminalized the First
Amendment and executive power related under the Constitution. As far
as the President was concerned activities questioning the twenty twenty election,
it was about making sure those people wouldn't show up
on twenty twenty four at twenty twenty four and raise questions.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It didn't work because groups like Judicial Watch we weren't cowed.
Trump wasn't cowed. The American people rejected it outright, and
they tried, but they failed, and it doesn't mean they
won't try again, and they will try again unless there
are consequences. And certainly not doing an investigation is not
(32:05):
what the American people expected out of this Justice.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Department and FBI.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And now they say, maybe there's something going on secretly
we don't know about, and that just sounds very cute
like today and I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's also too I mean, because those buildings haven't changed,
because it take you a while to change them. You
got to get on with this. Your your point is exactly,
Pam and cash are they get so much going on
and those buildings aren't with them. So the best that
just be some marginal thing. This is where he said
it's the reason for being the Special Prosecutor is solely
to do this and to report to the president directly.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It lifts the burden from the FBI and Justice Department,
so Cash can spend his time decimating the FBI, shuddering
it so that the only people left are him and
a skeleton crew.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You and I totally agree with this. The FPI is
gonna be broken apart.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Right, There's nothing the FBI does that can't be done
by another federal agents is better and with more focus.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Tom Fitton, where do you go for social media? Amazing? Well,
we're at judicialwatch dot org. Uh, and I'm all over
social Where did they get all your social media? Is
it your account? Social media?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's both, it's judicial Judicial Watch on x at Tom Fitton,
similarly on Rumble YouTube, Facebook.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know, we're everywhere and uh. And this is what
drives the left crazy. It's because we know what we're
talking about. We've got some of the best lawyers in
the country working on our cases, whether it be on
election integrity. I mean, the work we did on the
Ashley Babbitt case is unbelievable. You know, I was thinking
about all these crazy law firms out there that Trump,
(33:38):
you know, highlighted their anti American approaches. We've been doing
this work for thirty years. Not once have we received
pro bono legal help from any of these giant law firms,
not once.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Incredible, and the left gets it all the time. Yeah,
but we do it anyway. Amazing. Thank you for Ashley
Babbitt and that incredible Thanks you after Tom, the Great
Tom Finton, Do I have Jillian up? Do I have Poso? Okay,
Jacks getting ready. We're gonna get to Jack Musoak in
a second. The Great Tom Finton was here joined us
this morning. They announced and announced the details later on
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You spend a minute or two in the in this
(35:58):
show to tee it up, because this is the road
to Rio, the reset, This is the bricks, the alternative
they're looking to the US dollar. Remember, we are who
we are because of the dollars of prime reserve currency. Now,
I have always said, you need a national debate, you
need a national debate about whether we want to be
the prime reserve currency or not. And that's something we
are going to have over the next couple of years
(36:20):
because it comes with a tremendous amount of burdens, but
it also has benefits. One of the benefits that you
can finance kind of what you're doing if you go
over to Citizens Free Press. The Great Kane, who joined
us on Saturday for a blockbuster hour, broke it all
down of his You know, he got into this business
in the news business because of his obsession with spending,
(36:41):
and particularly with federal spending. The shot put across us
as we said, we don't we're not going to have
just free rain to do what we want anymore. Why
do I say that. Well, the Central Bank of Japan,
the Bank of the Bank of Japan, put a shot
across our bow over the weekend. What did they tell
the Financial Times? It said, hey, look, Scott Bessen, we're
negotiating a new trade deal. And yes, you're right, there's
(37:03):
all types of non trade barriers. That's why you're not
selling Fords and Chevies in Japan. And we're gonna work
all that out and we're going to be part of
your block, and you know, we're not going to be
dependent upon the Chinese Communist Party. But they said, hey,
this over trillion dollars that we actually have in your
of government securities has to be part of this negotiation.
(37:24):
Remember the Chinese owned basically a tree in the Japanese
own a tree. And when you look at the big
beautiful bill right now, the reconciliation part, at least that
coming out of the House, it's one hundred and sixty
three billion dollars cut. But hey, yo, you've added that
back with the additional defense spending. And I believe if
you add the one hundred and seventy billion dollars for
the deportations of ten million illegals, I'm not so sure.
(37:48):
We get the cuts, I'm not sure we get much
cuts at all of the at one point eight to
two percent to and hared percent growth you're gonna get
you know. Bottom line is we can have a two
to two and have tree and dollar deficit two and
a half to two to two and a half. Uh,
two to two and a half tree and dollars of deficit.
(38:09):
So uh, you know how you're going to finance it.
Scott Besson's got to sell I don't know, ten to
twelve trillion dollars of government securities. So with that, this
is why we're talking about the revenue side of the equation.
Where is that going to come from? Right now? If
you add in the recision, Uh, we don't need to
hook anybody up. We're good, just gonna be me. The
if you look at the recisions right now, if you
(38:32):
look at the extension of the task cut, particularly particularly
for folks that are the pop are populous tax cuts,
and that would be no tax on social security, no
tax on overtime, no tax on tips, that's going to
make it even bigger. So uh, really glad and honored.
We're doing a tea up for six o'clock tonight. Celia Motion.
(38:53):
You join us now, the author of the book I've
been I've been raving about this book, Paper Soldiers, the
weaponization of the Dollar, and how changed the world order.
You're going to be our guest for an entire hour
to night as we talk about this road to the
Rio Reset, the Road to the Bricks Nations and Rio. Why?
How did how did weaponization of the dollar actually change
(39:16):
the world order? I mean, why is this such a
big deal? Because this book, I tell people, and it
has our favorite Chris Leonard at the top, who wrote
Lords of Easy Money, a true feat of revelatory journalism.
If you only read one book to understand American economic
and political power in the world today, it should be
this one. Why is that.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The US has been able to impose a lot of
geopolitical and foreign policy strength around the world because of
just how large the US economy is and all of
the pillars that underpin that economy. The pillars are the
strength of the US democracy. We have rule of law,
We have independent agencies like the Federal Reserve, We have
(39:57):
courts that are respected. We have free and fair elections.
This is not a autocracy, This is not a dictatorship.
Businesses and foreign investors and foreign central banks know that
there is a predictability and stability that comes with an
investment in the US dollar. And that has given the
US enormous power because there's this faith and credibility that
(40:18):
the US will always be there to kind of save
the day or will always pay its debt on time.
And this is from the genesis of the country. The
very first treasure secretary that the US had is Alexander.
It was Alexander Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Who was obsessed by getting national debt credit.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Absolutely. He wrote this great report called the Report on
Public Credit for Congress and back then, yes, just like
I look for leaks and advance information on what a
treasure secretary is thinking. It happened back then to a
lot of people wanted to have access to this report
in advance in the seventeen eighties. But he talked about
how debt is a national blessing, our credit, the faith
(40:59):
in our credit is the price of our liberty.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Boy, and he and he and Jefferson fought it out
over that. I get you for about another two minutes.
You're going to be back with us for an hour
tonight at six o'clock. Go through it, but everything you
talk about is correct. But in kind of that entire time,
particularly Moundern time, it's always been about having a strong
dollar all of a sudden and actually wanted the dollar
to be super strong. Has that changed? Is a mentality
(41:24):
on that changed about having actually a strong dollar means
a strong country, a strong America versus all this talk
about a week dollar.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Well, there's two definitions of the dollar that we shouldn't conflate.
One is just the foreign exchange rate value. We've always
wanted that our dollar can purchase a lot of goods
overseas because we have a consumer driven economy. We can
export growth and drive growth for the world because we
consume a lot, so come sell to us. We can
buy a lot because our dollar foreign exchange rate value
(41:52):
is strong. The second definition is just the global dominance.
The dollar is on ninety two percent of one end
of every transaction that takes place in the world, So
you cannot possibly transact in the world without touching the years.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Something like seventy five percent of all debt issued by
foreign countries or issue or dollar denominated.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Everyone's you know, insatiable appetite for American.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Dollars and so This is what we're going to talk
about because the bricks nations are going to have in
Rio in July. This quote unquote the Rio reset or
whatever they're talking about. This is about the dollar as
the prime reserve currency, correct, right? And so? And is
that in Uh, that's kind of up in the air
right now. It wouldn't. It hasn't been questioned since World
War Two. It's quite difficult to get off the dollars
(42:38):
you just said. But there are voices out there they're saying,
are the Americans running too many things by being the
prime reserve currency? Correct?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
But when you're the superpower, there's always those voices out
there wondering is this the right thing for us?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
When you're the hedgemon, when you're the hegemon of finance,
do you have to be the hedgemon in manufacturing to
do that? Because when this was set up, we were
a manufacturing hegemond. It was the end of the war.
We were the only country, only major power that was
not devastated financially or economically.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I don't know the answer to whether you have to
have the strength in manufacturing, but you have to have
the world's largest economy to have this kind of strength
and being the world's reserve asset.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, you're gonna be back at six o'clock. We're going
to go through the entire hour. We're gonna go through
the history of it, go back to the founding of
the nation, all of it, and talk about the weaponization Wirelson,
talk about what's happening in Iran, other places where the dollar,
sanctions and other things have are not just quite as
as easy as people think, and definitely have blowback on
(43:38):
the American people. Short commercial break. We're gonna be back
in the war room in just a moment. This would
take it down.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Let's say sad thing for the world on the hot
kom we will fight till the love God.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
We literally swell.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Let's stick down.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Bas Wow, what a day. A lot. I think second
hundred days with the President Trump's administration the second term,
and I talked about it on Saturday. I gave a
talk over at russ votes former shop Center for Renewing America.
I was a closing keynote, and I talked about the
converging crisis crises. One is this constitutional crisis. We're definitely
(44:25):
going to have and you've had Tom Finton here this
morning that Tom Finton says, hey, you ought to double
a triple down because he's talking about an independent prosecutor.
But that's an entire issue now with the courts, and
we're going to hammer this one out. But you can
see that coming. I think it's mid juniridgely. In addition,
you've got the situation with the with the different parts
of the kinetic, the kinetic part of the Third World War.
(44:47):
You heard MTG. A lot of the base just thinks
we're off track on this should be focused on the
southern border and what's coming here with fentanyl and the
Mixican cartels. A lot of discontent with the Ukraine situation,
and as the details come out of the economic deal.
So that's another big aspect. That's all conversion as President
Trump tries to balance all that. And of course President
(45:09):
She has accepted and will be in attendance from May
seventh to tenth in Moscow for the eightieth commemoration of
what they call Victory Day because the Russians feel that
they delivered the victory in Second World War. She's going
to be there for two or three days. I understand
they've already lea they're going to sign some announced thirty
five different agreements working together. And last but not least
(45:31):
is the middle part, which you told the economics and
the finance part, and to get the big beautiful bill right,
but also the spending I'm just not seeing that all
the spending cuts that have to be codified. We got
the tax situation, and then the discussion of the trade
and the trade deals and the tariffs and all that.
The Japanese the Central Bank put a shot across our
vow that said, hey, oh, by the way, in any
(45:51):
discussion we're going to have on trade, we got to
talk about the tradeing dollars of US government securities we
own and what is our appetite for all that. So
we're going to get into all that over the next
couple of days, and of course, a lot of focus
right now on President Trump and getting back when this
very dangerous second hundred days. As we're commencing right now,
(46:11):
Mike Lindel joins us. Mike the Romania. In Romania, we won,
we lost in Canada, in Australia, but we really didn't
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MAGA in Romania. Populus nationals. One first thing he said
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(46:32):
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Speaker 6 (47:14):
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One hundred and thirty two countries have banned electronic voting,
and we have to be we have to secure our elections.
Everything comes from our elections. So and and we are
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(50:10):
you know Ted Cruz. Let's get everybody and say, hey,
you got to talk to Senator Grass. So we have
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the hearing on Ed Martin. As a US attorney for
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This is the most powerful and most important of all
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the US attorneys. We need that schedule of the President
Trump's interim pick temporary pick he times out on twenty May.
As Mike cow told you from Heritage this morning. That
means we got to schedules hearing today so that we
can have it on Thursday. And there may be some
other tricks that Senator Shift and others still pull but
(50:52):
you got to go for the process. Let's go ahead
and roll. Make sure you talk to your senator day,
particularly Senator Tillis at North Carolina Senator four nine in Texas.
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