THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP.4477)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MAY 10TH, 2025S
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hours.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
As we're looking at this big budget budget bill, there's
now this idea coming from the White House that Donald
Trump could be open to raising taxes on the wealthy
as well as potentially closing the carried interest loophole. If
you're not familiar with it, it is basically a giveaway
to the private equity industry that year after year, lawmakers

(00:20):
on both sides of the aisle say, God, that's ridiculous,
We're going to get rid of it. Yet it never
goes anywhere. Do you believe there's truth to this that
Donald Trump does actually want to increase taxes on the
rich and close this.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Carried interest loophole.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Do you believe this, because, guess what, he does need
to find a way to get this budget passed.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I don't know that Donald Trump wants to do that.
I don't think he has any particular philosophy of that.
I think Steve Bannon does feel like the disembodied hand
of Steve Bannon reaching in right, So I think that's true.
I think they have to find the money somewhere theoretically well.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Enough, I mean it carried interest residents around here in
the federal budget.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
And then and what.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
He's talking about wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:02):
Get you aching that the rich.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
They're talking about people who earn earn over two and
a half million dollars a year. That's zero point one
percent of the population. That's another number that won't get
you there.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
It's like the wealth taxes not touch Grover Norquiz comes in.
I'm friends with Grover, President of America's tax reforms on Wednesday.
You know this, we oppose to this. This is not
republican policy. David McIntosh, president of Club for Growth. I know,
David McIntosh said in a statement, scaling back to side
of the scope of the four trillion dollars tax cut
will help the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Raise taxes.

Speaker 8 (01:37):
This is not a serious option and its political suicide.
And so the problem that we have on the populace
side is all these voices are out there talking about
tax cuts for the rich, but they're not talking about
Congress over spending. Notice, all the lobbyists are there for
the tax cuts for the rich. We don't have any

(01:59):
lobbyists for the American people who are paying the bill
for all this. Right, so, no one's cutting the seven
trillion dollar budget. It's not going to go down much
at all. Steve's been covering it brilliantly for the last months.
It looks like spending might even go up. There's some hope.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, we'll see.

Speaker 8 (02:13):
If we get a seventeen percent reduction in that non
defense discretionary, that's promising. But that's a small piece, and
so I just kind of wanted to lay out some
of the arguments.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Go look up the Hill article, refresh yourselves.

Speaker 8 (02:28):
The American people can make this point, but I think
we ought to use that tax piece as leverage. If
the rich have lobbyists at work, why don't you put
those lobbyists in charge of cutting spending as well. If
we get the government to disappear, then business will flourish.
We all want that. That's the outcome we want. I

(02:48):
want economic growth. I've spent my whole life on economic growth,
and so this is the way to do it. We
need to team up and reduce government spending. The tax
guys say, well, if you acts the rich or whatever,
you know, you're just going to provide more money for government. Well,
the Fed, the Federal Reserve, and every institution is doing
that already.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
The Milton Friedman logic has not worked.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
And I'm a Milton Friedman fanatic, Steve mox me for
being Milti Friedman Junior, right, And so I just want
to share a few thoughts. This hass to major league
implications for politics and the Republican Party going forward.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
This is the climal screen of a dying regime.

Speaker 9 (03:32):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. Here's I got a free shot all these
networks lying about the people.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that.

Speaker 9 (03:44):
I know you've tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Mega media?

Speaker 8 (03:53):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 6 (04:02):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
War Room.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
Bath Saturday, ten May. You're Eler twenty twenty five. So
Dave Bratt, you know, Grevin Norcrest. None of these guys
ever talk about cutting spending. And here's the problem. The
wealthy benefit from the from the from the federal increased

(04:34):
federal spending. How do I know this? How did President
Trump break the law firms? The law firms are the
way that the wealth. It's it's the direct link. It's
not connective tissue. It's harder than that. It's like linkage
in a transmission between Wall Street, the capital markets, and
the Imperial capital. The folks up here that just vote

(04:56):
do as they're told, vote the way the money tells
them to vote. The universities, and the are three things.
Number One, when dose first started, when omb asked, just like,
let's take a pause, where's all the money? And people
melted down. But you found out the federal money is
in every district. It's everywhere. That's what seven trillion dollars

(05:18):
a year gets you.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
Number two, when Treasury said, oh they had the checks,
the four point six three, and everybody froze up there.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Think about that.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
There's there turned out to be Both of those turned
out to be nothing burgers, but it showed you the
scale in the depth of the problem. Then you go
to how did Trump break the law firms? How did
Debrillant Boris Epstein come.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Up with it?

Speaker 9 (05:43):
It's to put in there. Not just take away your
security clearances. You can't work on any more government contracts.
And oh, by the way, any clients that keep you
will not be eligible for government contracts. That means federal money.
This is a bizarre up here. It's like bizarre and
bag Dad back in the you know, medieval times. That's
what it is. Everything's an auction every day. And the

(06:07):
pigs up here have got their their nose in the
snout and you're paying the You're paying the price. The
lobbyist you got is Trump and look everybody's got around him.
And I'm telling you take this to the bank. We
have changed the electorate to now be able to win
because you're un republished traditional Republican and orthodoxy.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You can't win.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
You can't sell. It's not sellable to the American people
because it doesn't work. This is why the country is
in such bad shape. Because Fox News and the Republican
Party were controlled, opposition kind of went along with it.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You're seeing it again right here.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
Look at all this happy talk, look at all the
lies being said about raising taxes on the wealthy. It's
not that we want to not that we want to
raise taxes on the wealthy the rep money must come
from somewhere, and they're the driving factor on spending. It's
a grad believe in incentives. It's a great incentive to

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give him a wake up call. You don't want to
pay higher taxes, then get your lobbyists to back off
and help us cut this budget. Did you see one
penny out of defense? And I consider myself a hawk.
We don't need a trillion dollars and Russ vote the
brilliant Russ vote. His theory the case now at the

(07:24):
top up the O one hundred and fifty million dollars
that we we get it all to these guys at
one time, Dave, so now they don't come back every year,
and then we have to have cuts.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
You know, we can't.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
You know, we can't cut social spending because we can't
cut this.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's all kind of gobbledygook.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
We gotta face reality and do a very basic like
we're doing a bankruptcy. When you're doing a bankruptcy, you
come at booboo, there's all kind of people are yelling
in screament. You gotta get down to the basics. Cash in,
cash out. What does my balance sheet look like? What
can be monetized here, how do you do this?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Number one?

Speaker 9 (07:55):
Had he cut spending? You're absolutely correct, But Dave, you
sit there and you got Grover and you got you
got the Club for Growth, and they're all, you know,
they want to do this and they want to do this,
and they Austrian economics, they never talk about cutting spending.
We came up with one hundred and sixty three billion dollars,
which is just a licking of promise. That's in a

(08:16):
one point seventy five discretionary budget. One hundred and sixty
three billion, and they're talking about how this is the
most this is so many conservative wins here. Bottom line,
Let's just go to the bottom line of all the
pieces that are coming together here.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
And Bratt helped me out. Brother. Right now, if you
put this.

Speaker 9 (08:37):
All together, the deficit in this budget of twenty six
is going to be two and a half trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Two and a half trillion dollars.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
I dare anybody to show me man and don't give
me gimmicks, and we're not gonna. Hey, I went to
Harvard Business School and went to worked at Goldman Sachs.
You're not gonna put a gimmick past me. Don't give
me a gimmick. Okay, I don't hear you. Got all
these gimmicks up there. They do this and do that
and consertive wins. I want to see cash in and
cash out because that's what's adding to the debt ceiling.

(09:10):
And god, we need the debt ceiling. That's the only
thing keeps anybody honest.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And and and and as.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
Smart as best. And as he's telling you, hey, I
think it's gonna be August. So the end of June,
we got a financial crisis. I got the constitutional crisis
in in July. Beginning of July, we got the We
got the bricks Nations meeting in Rio saying we want
out and and not and all and not and a
lot of them are not friends in the United States

(09:36):
of America, like you saw she and uh and putin
like two teenagers the last couple of days on their
first date. And then you're gonna have debt ceiling coming in.
So this August, this summer, folks, you know, don't get
ready to pack the cooler and go the beach, because
this is gonna be one of the most intense summers
in the history of this country.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's all converging.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
And guess what, if we want to be masters of
our fate, We're Americans. If we want to be masters
of our fate and make our own decisions, we got
to start having tough conversations and tough decisions.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Otherwise the rest of the world's going to have.

Speaker 9 (10:16):
Our alternatives are narrowing and narrowing and narrowing. Dave Bratt,
thank you for joining us. Is Saturday morning, sir, your
thoughts and observations.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
Yeah, well, if you want no tricks and no fakery,
go back to russ Vote and Center for Renewing America.
Just probably about a year ago, he had ten trillion
cuts over ten years. That's a trillion cuts over ten
each year, a trillion each year, right, and that still
leaves you with a trillion deficit. But that was heroic
work getting rid of all woken weaponized. And so now

(10:50):
the ways and means that committee comes out with a
budget dropped last night.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
A lot of things are omitted, right, the.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
Tax on tips, so security, all those things are saying
the salt debate, there's another rich versus the middle issue.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 8 (11:06):
As Republicans, And then as you say the tax cut
crowd who I'm friends with. I like tax cuts, everybody
likes tax cuts. But they're not responsible for the existential
threat of China. They're not responsible for the bond market
erupting on our gross overspending. Right, So that's what I
was trying to get across in the clip. These guys

(11:26):
have to play team ball and be adults in the room.
It's nice represent the billionaires, and some of the billionaires
are great, some of our heroes manufacturing, et cetera, and
some are not. I didn't see the Fortune five hundred
weighing in on anything having to do with a responsible budget.
They never do, right, So that's a mixed bag, and
we got to design our tax policy appropriately. But all

(11:49):
of this goes on the shoulders of Congress, right. You
don't hear anything out of Congress. The lobbyists make the
argument very clear, this is a disaster, right raising, and
let me frame it properly. Right, It's not raising taxes
on everybody. It's raising taxes on families that make more
than five million dollars. That's the latest reporting from the Hill, right,

(12:11):
So that's you know, zero point zero one percent of
the population go up two percent so it's not armageddon.
It's not the end of times to the billionaire class.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And the tax cuts are.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
There's not really yet but but there's yeah, but there's not.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
But there's not enough squeezing the you know, juice and
the squeeze on that you can do that, but that
I'm not saying it's performative. But that doesn't we have
a math problem.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, even that doesn't.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Right.

Speaker 9 (12:39):
First off, first, they do mention, they do mention tax
on tips, tax on overtime, tax on sod security. But
in this at least twenty eight pages, it's very uh,
it's very early. It's just they just put it out
to put something out over the weekend because it's only
half Yeah, because they're already going to do a mark
up on Tuesday, and folks, we are going to be
manning the ramparts on Monday morning.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
On this.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
They don't make it permanent. They don't make it permanent.

Speaker 9 (13:03):
The key is to make everything for the middle class
and the working class permanent. Now the wealthy, it's they've
they've accreted all the benefits of this. They own all
the real assets, they own all the financial assets. Right,
two thirds of the country is seventy percent of the
country don't don't have any steak in the country whatsoever.

(13:26):
You can't continue on like that. If the if you
got cut, you wouldn't have to go ahead, sir, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
And on the tax cuts, it'll be very interesting when
they say the average tax cut. You know, they take
the total tax cuts and divide it by the number
of workers or something. That's not acceptable because the rich
may get the huge gains. And and then the tax
cut crew also said, you're giving this to the Democrats.
You notice what they said already, there's no tax on

(13:54):
the rich in this bill, in the uh, in the
ways and means drop last night. But the Democrats came
out anyway and said in the dead of night, the
Republicans are all they're doing is covering their taxes for
the rich and the taxes for the billionaires. So that
you have that coming with certainty no matter what you do,
so that math better be clean. Right when we say

(14:14):
middle class tax cuts, that the vast proportion of the
tax cuts should go to the middle class and the.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
Poor, yeah, or the working the working class, right, yes,
the work looking for right now, a lot of the
working poor or their tax burden is not as high
as as the as the working class in the middle class,
which is way too high. Hangar for one second, Birch Goal,
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
Short break.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
Back Best at Secretary Treasury Trade rep Over negotiating to
the Chinese right now, or at least prellminary discussions about
the trade situation, the commerce situation. Dave Bratt, you have

(15:22):
some additional thoughts. I mean, how are we going to
get the political class. They know this audience supports them.
They're the ones that put them there. The number one
thing people talk to me about is UH. And it's
not taxing the wealthy, right it's not, But it's cutting
it's getting rid of these deficits. We can't keep adding

(15:42):
to this debt. You know now that as we've shown
people by adding to the debt and having to refinance
the debt of which we're still financing.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
This debt kind of short term.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
We haven't gone on long term of this debt a
lot of it. And Japan put a shot across our
bow the other day. Japan said, hey, by the way,
in our negotiations, the one trillion dollars of US government
securities that we own have got to be part of
that discussion because they know we're going to come back
to them to buy a lot more.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That's what you want. If you want, you ought to
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Speaker 9 (16:16):
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(16:38):
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That's Ricords Warroom dot com. Go the landing page and
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Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rickards and his team.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
I want to talk about this thing of of this
situation being prime reserve currency and the reports you're hearing
they were leaking out now by the lords of easy money.
But you were up there. Why President Trump has been
very bold. He's talked about what he wants, you know,
to get to a balanced budget, and balanced budget is
we don't even we're talking about now going from six

(17:11):
and a half or seven percent deficit to GDP down
to three and a half percent, not even close to
a balanced budget still. I don't know around a treeion
dollars a year deficit that would be a win.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But you got to see a path to that.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
Somebody's going to have to walk me through the math
because what we've presented so far in kind of different
elements of it, a little bit of budget here, a
little bit of the taxes here, kind of And I
think I'm not saying they're doing to confuse people, because
they know that we're going to make sure we can
explain it all to everybody. But what is the hesitancy
knowing their constituents number one number one thing is to

(17:50):
cut spending. We haven't put the RUSS is still working
on the recisions of the two billion dollars for PBS
and NPR.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
That recision hasn't come up yet.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
What is the hesidency of the political class up on
Capitol Hill to do their task and get their arms
around at least start with discretionary spending and get your
arms around it and come back with meaningful cuts.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Sir, well, the hesitancy is what you'll see in all
the mainstream headlines right now. We haven't cut any money,
and yet the headlines are all we're ruining the environment,
We're ruining Medicaid and Medicare and all that.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
It's all totally false.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Natalie Winters last night showed, in fact, the opposite is true.
There's a ten or twenty billion dollar hunk of corruption
going from Medicaid payments to California for illegal immigrants.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
There's the Usaid corruption.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
We're sending money to Africa and then we're making the
poor Africans send the money back to Democrat operators in
this country.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
We have receipts on all this.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
So the American people are disgusted, and so what's the hesitancy.
The hesitancy is the same as I've been saying this
for ten years. They turfed me out. They play one
offs by state by state by state on political strategy.
The Speaker needs to come out with an overall messaging
points for the United States of America and the Senate

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needs to do the same thing, and it needs to
fit with Trump.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
They won't do that. They're playing prevent defense.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
Just like in sports, and everybody knows how the game
ends when you do that. We got the same budget
numbers basically on file right now we've had for the
past thirty years. Not the new is going to change
because they're scared of the midterm elections. And they should
be scared because Trump showed you the way forward. You
do big, bold proposals that people love, and then you win.

(19:38):
But they're not doing that. They won't message on any
of this. There's corruption all around us. The American people
are overwhelmingly against the swamp. Take a bold move, right,
we talk about the Judeo Christian West. Sometimes you got
to take a leap of faith, just do the right thing.
In addition, it's the right thing to do to save
your country.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
And so we all know that. Hass NC and the War.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Room's going to put in every effort we can to
light up the flares.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
But you see what's coming.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
You've been saying it for a year ahead of time,
what the budget process is likely going to look like.
Unless the American people turf out the seven trillion dollar game.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, here's what they're gonna do.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
It's obvious now they're going to use the death ceiling
in the crisis for that to be able to slap
together because if you actually you correct me, you were
you were there.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Just my observation.

Speaker 9 (20:31):
Haven't gone through you know, gone through this rodeo a
couple of times. If you look at the big beautiful bills,
since they didn't break it into two, it's all part
of one. Yeah, right now, this thing doesn't get without
a death ceiling. This thing really doesn't get put to
votes until after Labor Day sometime in September. It's going

(20:51):
to take that long to do the horse trading because
it's so complicated. Now they're going to say, well, we
got the death ceiling in August, and we're going to
run out of money and we're going to run out
although vote can show them how to triage this. That
we need to raise the debt ceiling, and that's that's
supposed to be part of the reconciliation because you can't
get it any other way.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You need to do it on fifty votes.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
So right after we finish the constitutional crisis about the
President's Article two powers. We're going to have this bricks
meeting where you're going to see and act. You're going
to see the Global South. The global South is going
to say, Hey, we're going to go in a different direction.
Not day one because you've got us, but we're going
to go in a different direction. And then you're going

(21:37):
to have a crisis of debt ceiling in all of
this go. We're going to have basically range war between
on this massive deficit you're going to have in this
unless you come up with other revenue sources, because you
only got a couple of.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Ways to do this.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
You can have a higher growth rate, and right now,
at a growth rate at two and a half percent,
which I don't think we're going to hit, but let's
say two and a half percent, you're still not going
to get there. It's gonna be a deficit over It's
going to be a deficit over two trillion dollars and
that just can't happen. We're gonna have a two trillion
dollar deficit in the first physical year of President Trump
because we basically signed on to Biden's budget.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
Dave Brett, Yeah, it's a two percent growth right with
two trillion dollar deficit spending, which is hugely stimulative, and
you still have a very liquid federal reserve balance sheet
right which hasn't been pared down substantially yet.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
So all of it's fake.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
And so the message from the war room has got
to be in this two year window. If you've got
President Trump, who just want a historic victory across the board,
popular vote, everything right, the whole shooting match. And if
you can't get it right with a house in the
Senate and President Trump in the first year with momentum
the America, you know what's coming.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
And it ain't pretty.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
It's a disaster, right, and everybody, all the swamp, all
the loblists, all the big spenders, the Democrats are just
waiting out Trump. They're going to see what they can
do with law, fair, with the judiciary. And that that
is the main point that probably needs to be made.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
If we don't do it now.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
With President Trump on the ascendancy leading in all the
polls on these key issues, now is the time, folks,
light it up, Light up the switchboards.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
We're going to have an organized effort in the start
Monday morning, so we'll get information up to everybody on
my getter account.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Brat's all of it, so you can sort now the
Daily Mail.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
The Charlie, the great Charlie Spearing, who worked for me
at Breitbart's now the senior political reporter over at the
Daily Mail from DC. He's got an incredible if we
can get it up and get it to Denver, huge
story just broke in the Daily Mail. Deep blue state
is swinging aggressively to the right, and there's polling to
prove it. That state is New York STATECLL. They just

(24:00):
got to pull out the serves hocals at thirty six
percent approval on fifty five percent disapproval. What's the biggest
problem people have is is the taxes. Spending is out
of control and the taxes are too high for what
they're getting. It's destroying people up there. It's happening all
over the country. It's happening at the federal level. This
is a winner in the midterm elections if you take

(24:22):
a bold stand against this out of control spending, a
bold stand against out of control spending, and you're not raising.
What President Trump has proposed is the most is the biggest,
most massive tax cut in history for middle class and
working class people. And when you add on the Social
Security no over time and no tips growing.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Those guys never talk about that.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
They go back to that lie about ninety two about
Bush lost and President Trump called them out your state says, hey,
I think it was really Ross Perot, Right, it was
really Ross Perot. That's why he lost. The Republicans or
the Conservatos got fifty eight. Bill Clinton got forty two
or forty three percent of the vote. He was always
a minority president that was going to buy That's what

(25:09):
that scumbag was selling is because pro split the vote.
I remember that was just raising taxes on go ahead, sir.

Speaker 10 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
And I had a few charts I didn't get up
the other day on the cultural moves. The Democratic elite,
Bernie aoc et cetera. The leaders on the Democrat Party side,
the yeah they're the man good Denver slap that up. Wow,
you guys are good. Uh, there's you know. So the
kind of the gray line in the middle is your culture.
The red line on the right is Republicans. But you

(25:40):
see the huge deviancy as you move up to the
current day right, as you move up and up and
up on that graph, the blue line is the deviation
away of the Democrat elites, away from the American people.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
And you see that on a whole host of issues.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
On the left, on the right, on cultural issues, on
the economic issues, the tax issues. The Democrats are out
of control. And that's what I'm saying right now. If
you don't strike right now, big and hard, this is
your opportune time, right, this is it. We're winning across

(26:15):
the board. It's the left who has the problem. The
Conservatives do not have a problem on messaging. We believe
in the Judeo Christian West, the rule of law, all
the good stuff, men, women, kind of the basics, right,
and so now is the time.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Bratt.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
I know you got a bounce, you got graduation liberty today.
What's your social media sir?

Speaker 8 (26:35):
Yeah, just Bratt economics, get her and on the X
now and I'll be beefing that up over the summer.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Now, I'm gonna get a little more active and social.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
The Dave Bratt on a Saturday Morning. Thank you, brother,
appreciate you for all your hosting this week. Fantastic short
break back in.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
A moment, confuse your host Stephen K.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
Bath with everything else going on in the world, pros
of Trump, bringing peace to trying to bring peace to Ukraine,
bringing peace at least temporarily to Cashmere, the line of
control the contested territories there, which is a tinder box
waiting for a match to go between two nuclear powers

(27:24):
and one that's not that stable in Pakistan. A blockbuster
story based upon the great Charlie Spearing with research and
polling done by Daily Mail.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
If we can put that up.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
I'm trying to get Degrass to call in because this
is the work of Degrass and the Stephanic team that
they've been hammered at this. Look at that purple haze.
It's stunning that deep blue New York is rapidly becoming maga.
Why because of the corruption and competence, an outright theft

(27:58):
of these democrats that ruled these big cities and destroy
these states. You notice Newsom's not running on the California
model for president. He's trying to be something else and
hulks a thirty percent thirty six percent approval people think
Stefana can take her on. That's in the first year
of a president's term, which is always usually an off

(28:22):
you know, usually a tough election for the party in power,
particularly we control every aspect of government. Because people are
obviously never totally happy, so they're going to take it
out at the ballot box. They're actually saying now that
you could win in New York State. This article is brutal,
and Sparing's as good. He's like a mad boyle type.

(28:44):
He's as smart as they come. This article is quite brilliant.
What is this a show? This shows that our policies
are right people. People have been under the boot of
the radical Democrats and felt like they couldn't have any
say so or saying, hey, no, guess what we hate.
This is this not white working class, in white middle class.

(29:07):
It's Hispanics and blacks because they're all being destroyed financially, economically, culturally,
and they're tired of it. They're tired of it. This
is why what does Scott Presler say, Pennsylvania's becoming the
new Ohio and New Hugh hopes to make New Jersey
the new the new pennsil the make new Jersey Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And you're seeing right here in the Tri state area.
Look at that. This is why, this is why it's
a constant battle. This is what's so upsetting about Texas.
In Texas.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
Sore has put almost four hundred million dollars into turning
Texas blue, and they got kind of purple there for
a while.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
And guess what's the pushback? It was grassroots.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
It wasn't the Bush Hunta, wasn't Carl Rove, wasn't these
guys that we It's these incredibly patriotic Texans that got
out there and at the did the precinct strategy, and
the precinct strategy started to take over the party and
had these huge knockdown dragouts, and so they impeached Packson.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
We won that.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
Trump wins by fourteen points, are you kidding me? And
drags Ted Cruz to a nine point win. Of course,
Ted Cruz just came out against Trump's tariffs, against tax
and the wealthy. His true colors are showing through. He's
a classic orthodox Republican. But in Texas, something deeper and
darker is happening. The Bush, the Bush a Hunta is

(30:41):
already made a deal with the Democrats and they're passing
crazy stuff down there, crazy and people are starting to
go nuts, as they should. So here's our policies are
turning New York our way Texas, which people are is
the railhead of MAGA. The folks there have got to
fight every every day because the state legislature that they

(31:03):
won works against them. Think about that for a second.
Also at the precing strate. I talk to folks all
the time in these fights in South Carolina and in Florida,
and in North Carolina and in Georgia. Look at MTG's
amazing tweets you put out yesterday. Without not running for Senate,
I could go across the country or the taking over

(31:25):
these state parties by.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
The precing strategy.

Speaker 9 (31:28):
In the fights, I mean hand to hand combat that
you've had to have with establishment figures.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's in every state. I talk to people every day.

Speaker 9 (31:37):
These fights are vicious because they don't want they don't
want The vested interests.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Do not want to hear from the grassroots.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
They don't want to hear common sense solutions because that
would mean giving up their privileges. They're essentially rent secrets.
They don't want to give that up. They're not prepared
to give it up. You got to take it away
from them. Not going to give it up.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Seeing here, and.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
By the way, if Degress does call in, I want
to get him up, which he's trying to call it
by phone. New York is showing you people that have
been burdened by that in this super liberal media that
in New York that just spouse espouses, what you know,
this is so great, this is so great. It never
does any investigations, and the budget deficits are massive, and
the taxes are out of control, and regulate the overregulation

(32:26):
on the economy is just unbearable. New York could be,
particularly upstate New York. It's just it's a garden. Go
up the Hudson Valley, the mountains up there, just incredible.
Upstate New York just just breathtaking in its beauty. It's
like that whole Appalachian mountain chain that comes all the
way from Georgia all the way up through and then

(32:49):
in the New York state, it's just incredible, a beautiful state.
And those people feel like they're burden and now they're
going to revolt. But you have to have bold leadership.
You have to go in and say we're gonna go,
We're gonna cut and allbany is run like a bunch
of Marxist. They got that thing so rigged. That is
a rig deal, a totally rigged deal. But you're starting

(33:13):
to see it throughout the country. At the same time
a state like Texas that we've done such a magnificent
job on the fight in Texas. This is why nine
seven two Patriot, Glenn's story and the team, it's the
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(33:36):
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The services they got are second to none, and they're
leading the fight down in Texas. And Texas is going
to be a fight, folks, because Texas, I don't know,
it's what the fourth or fifth biggest economy in the world,

(33:57):
great people, great resources, just a great, great place.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And they're they're they're not going to give it up.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
The people that control are not going to give it
up just because you're grassroots and maga and say, hey,
we want smaller government, we want less expensive government. We
can't afford these deficits. We don't have finance this debt anymore.
Alex de Grosse Charlie Spearing is as good a reporter
out there. This is a blockbuster story. Obviously, the Daily
Mail thinks on a day where there's so much news worldwide,

(34:25):
this is the lead story on the.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Biggest website in the world. It's kind of jaw dropping.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
I mean, you've been preaching this gospel for a while,
and now it's been validated by an independent third party.
Your your thoughts as as New York State shifts radically
to the rights, sir.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Thanks Steve. You know it's really maga, That's what this
is about me. Maga has shifted this. You look, when
President Trump stepped down the escalator as a New York Republican,
Steve as a New York Republican, and ultimately we know
in his heart he still is. Of course, he's in
Florida like men New York Republicans who have moved down there,
and it has really inspired and motivated a massive coalition.

(35:07):
If you get into the weeds on that independent poll,
it's working class, it's first generation legal immigrants, it's African Americans,
it's Hispanics, Asians, you know, Chinese that are freedom loving.
You know, in this country. I've worked with many of
them that have helped expose Frankly, some of the CCP influence,
which is massive in the New York State Democrat Party,

(35:27):
by the way, And there will be a lot more
to come on that as we digging deep and get
ready to fire Kathy Hochel in twenty twenty six, which
is going to be probably one of the pinnacle races,
regardless if a last dephonic runs, and of course he's
publicly considering that it's going to be. I mean, you
take down the Democrat Party in New York, it's essentially

(35:48):
the whole ballgame that's left on the field. Right we
took back the country, we're battling it out in New York,
which is the heart of the weaponization, the heart of
the illegal and everything. I mean, Kathy Ogle into the
oval with the President said I control the judges because.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
She does for the law year.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
That's how crazy everything is. So it really is MAGA
that has done this. The margins have moved in New
York City ever since twenty twenty, but President Trump are not.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
On the ballots.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
So there's this huge, you know shift here. The Bronx
was the largest shift. In the South Box where he
did that famous rally, was I believe the largest swing
of Evanee zip code, you know, parts of the South
Bronx and so this stuff is what we've all been
talking about, and the posse's been all over this, I mean,
upstate New York. If we're going to win, we need

(36:38):
to juice these numbers ten to twelve percent more, which
is no task, no easy task, of course, but we
can't if the President's coalition, which now is over three
point five million votes in New York. I mean, there's
millions of MAGA supporterers. So it's just very interesting Steve,
how we're looking. I mean, I'm in upstate right now.
Lisa is going to be campaigning down in the heart

(37:00):
of Democrats in Albany today. There's hundreds of protesters lining up,
We've got police. I mean, this thing is crazy. As
this sort of rolls out and develops. I mean, the
left is petrified of the prospect of Alist Deponic running
for governor. They've thrown all the stops out to try
to astimidate her, you know, with all these dark money
groups protesting and showing up to everything she's going to.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
But yeah, a lot of digress.

Speaker 9 (37:25):
Digress if you had, if you had in one year,
in the next six months, uh, Leticia James indicted right
in a federal court for her mortgage situation, and at
least a fonic take on Hokeel for Governor of New
York that would shatter. I mean, this would be one
of the number one political stories in the world that
we're assaulting.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
We're on offense.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
We're not on defense, We're on offense, and we're going
to the heart of the Democratic Party apparatus, sir, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
I mean, Steve at Lisa and I were just at
fourtyche down the Roga today. Steve is the charge of
fiftieth anniversary of the No Quarters Green Mountain Boys storming
ty hunder Rogo. We were up there with America two
fifty who at least had invited. They're doing the simulations
next time. Next time we do one of these, we
got to get real America's news in the war room
to send correspondence, and we would love you guys to

(38:15):
be involved into the battles of Saratoga, which are obviously
a year from now, but we were just up there.
I mean, that was the first offensive victory, of course
in the Revolutionary War. And of course, you know getting
New York, you know, flipping New York would be one
of the greatest offensive victories since President Trump's election in
twenty sixteen, of course, and the comeback obviously as well,
but it would be huge. I mean the numbers. I mean,

(38:38):
people are fired up because New York is an absolutely
dumpsterify this budget, the tax sikes, I mean it is
a Marxist alohol the government. They have more arrests and
corruption in Albany State Capitol than anywhere else in the country.
These guys are crooks, looks off the barrels and I
mean a ten million dollars slush fund they slipped into
the budget Steve to pay for Tiss James his lawyers.

(39:02):
I mean, this is what people know, what supports this. Democrats,
especially you know, hardworking traditional Democrats. I mean, this stuff
is in your face. These people are in your face
so bad, and it's time that we put us up
to I mean, it's going to take one hundred and
fifty million dollars, you know, one hundred million dollars minimum
to move this ball forward that we're going to need
to muster on behalf of Republicans in NAGA. But there's

(39:23):
a great interest I think from everyone involved. You know,
the President cares about New York greatly, of course, because
it is the one of the strongest bastions for the last.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
Yeah sorry in New York City. New York City is
the financial capitol world. You got to free it to grass.
Where do people go today to your social media to
keep up with Tae kwonder Rogan and everything you guys
are doing with the protesters up there and taking the
MAGA message to New York State, sir.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
So, definitely people should tune in at Fort Taekwonderoga. They've
got the live stream. They're going to be streaming to reenactment.
That's great. This is important for the history. They're at
Fort Tech on Daroga. That's gonna be great. You could
follow me at t Grass eighty one on X Scattered Truth.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
The whole thing.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Thank you so much, Steve, Thank you the posse. Let's
get this go and hit me up info out at
least for Congress. We'll get you guys plugged in the
local stuff. A lot of people have been reaching out.
We appreciate it. We see everyone around, we'll see people
in all but you've got five hundred Republicans showing up,
So thanks Steve.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
The United Nations loss is New York State's game.

Speaker 9 (40:23):
Thank you Alex de Grass, ask you back on to
help us breakdown the tax bill Monday and Tuesday next week.
We will also live stream Grace. I think we can
get on this live stream. What's happening up the Taekwonderoga
on the turn of fiftieth anniversary one of the one
of the early victories in.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
The Revolution.

Speaker 9 (40:46):
Also where we got the guns that were able to
help us win in Boston, which is coming up.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Also short Break.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
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Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, we're gonna have a lot of marching orders on Monday.

Speaker 9 (41:06):
They're gonna do the markup on the tax bill on Tuesday,
so we're gonna spend a lot of time on that.
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at the ramparts, because the ramparts we shall need you at. Also,
Dave Brad gave me he's sending me some information. There
are studies now, the Lords of easy Money. You're coming
out with studies about if we were not to because
we were back off the primerserve currency as. Remember, it's

(42:37):
easier for the government to sell treasuries and to Wall
Street to be the brokers and the treasuries if they're
guarant you know, if we're the primerserve currency of all
the every transaction world's got to be converted in the dollars.
They're saying that at least it first got Dave sent
me sixteen percent drop in GDP if we're not the
primerser of currency. I have not read the study, but

(42:57):
this is the type of propaganda you're gonna hear.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Now.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
There's plenty of reasons we should be the prime reserve currency.
There's plenty of reasons we shouldn't. We have to have
a national debate on that. One thing we can't do
is just stumble into people getting off it and then
we're left holding the bag.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Particularly these deficits.

Speaker 9 (43:13):
We cannot finance these deficits impossible unless you're the prime
reserve currency. It's impossible, mathematically impossible. And that's going to
get the bond market is gonna become a bigger and
bigger player of telling the American people what they can do.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
We have to avoid that.

Speaker 9 (43:29):
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Speaker 1 (43:43):
This meeting in Rio is.

Speaker 9 (43:45):
And you saw in Moscow had Lula from Brazil, she
from China, and Putin from Russia.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
That spells bricks to me. And they're up to no good,
no good, no good, no bueno.

Speaker 9 (44:01):
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You can learn it all from Birch Gold. Go do
it today, Mike Lindell.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
Uh, what's happened in England with I guess in England
they shut you down, the left did. But in the
United States you used to ship a lot to Canada.
The Canadians don't treat us so well? Is that correct?
Because they're picking on President Trump or picking on the Canadians.
They they don't. You don't sell a lot into Canada?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Why, sir?

Speaker 10 (44:35):
Because Trudeau back in the day, but I don't know.
For about four years ago, maybe six years ago, put
a tariff on betting products, including my pillow.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
And they actually called me when they did this and
put a.

Speaker 10 (44:48):
Twenty five tariff on any betting products coming into Canada.
It just put them put to a call to I mean,
in Canada, you're gonna pay that much more for your
for the products. And of that time, Steve, it was
if you were made in the USA, which my pillow was,
you Canada let them in with no tariffs. Then they
changed all that, true, changed that, so it was very

(45:11):
unfair for our great president. Now it's going to level
the playing field in but in Canada, we had a
huge presence in Canada.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
It was Oliver. I was on all the.

Speaker 10 (45:23):
TV stage just like here, all the radio, the box stores,
the shopping network, and it all got Part of it
was the tariffs, and then part of it was when
you went to cansall of my pillow, which they did
a great job.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
In England, we had a plant over there.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
They just attacked it and shut it down in January twenty.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
One, Mike.

Speaker 9 (45:44):
So that's how Trump's fighting for the little guys. What
else you got for us before you sell sell me
a set of sheets?

Speaker 10 (45:50):
Today, you guys, and I'll have more details, But I've
been looking forward to this day for four and a
half years. On June second, we will be the first.
My PILL and myself will be the first to go
before a jury, finally, all the way to jury trial
with these with the lawfare that's been used in this
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(46:13):
and platforms. Everyone is settled so far. Their insurance companies
make them sell. Oh both PILL and we don't want
to go all the way to trial. What if we lose.
I'm in it for a different reason everybody, and I've
been telling you that I want to secure our election platforms.
I've looked forward to this day. It's June second, out
of Colorado. I will be there every single day as

(46:34):
long as it takes, and finally I will be able
to tell the world what I wanted to say way
back when in the media has suppressed it. We'll see
who shows up. You think Fox News will be there,
Steve Covering at Wall to Wall, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So on June second, where's the trial going to take place.

Speaker 10 (46:52):
It's in Colorado. I believe it's in Denver. There were
three weeks away. We've been prepping every day with the lawyers,
and of course I'm you know, for me, I'm going
I'm going I'm happy. I'm going like finally, finally, and
they're going, you know we could make you know, we
can make deals. I said, there ain't no deals. This
is what I've waited for. This is what I've spent
tens of million times. So we're gonna have a We're

(47:13):
gonna have Lindale TV. We're gonna be there every day,
all day long, and it's gonna be I'm gonna people
ask me, are you gonna testify? Are you kidding? They're
gonna ask me a question, Steve, I'm gonna give him
a twenty a two hour answer.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
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Talk about and if you sell me a sheet for
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