May 19, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MAY 19TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That we're given or not given.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We know that they struggled with memory lapses during this conversation,
but obviously hearing the tape is a different thing. It
does emphasize and underscore just how much trouble he had
in that interview and why Robert Herr, the special counsel,
decided not to bring charges. Remember, Robert Hurst said that
he decided not to bring charges in part because the
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present seemed like a forgetful old man and that that
would be hard to convince a jury that he knowingly
violated the law. Well, how did he make that determination?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He made it in part through this interview that we're
now hearing through this audio tape, And therefore the hearing
the auto tape does have a value in that sense
to help us understand what her was evaluating.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Welcome back to the Weekend Prime Time. We are starting
this hour with our breaking news. Former President Joe Biden
has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.
His personal office is saying in a statement that it
appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management,
and Biden and his family are reviewing their treatment options
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with multiple physicians.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
This cancer was diagnosed by urinary symptoms rather than the
way we find it most of the time, which is
what Joe Kanchi was asking in the last hour. Usually
we find it with no symptoms. He's already got symptoms,
which means it's pretty advanced. He's having urinary symptoms heading
towards urinary retention. He's got spread of this prostate cancer
to the bone in one spot, which is going to
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cause him pain. And the biggest news we're hearing is
that this particular cancer, which is quite aggressive, is testosterone dependent,
meaning that the hormone testosterone is very involved with how
aggressive it is, which means it should respond to anti
testosterone therapy, which is the mainstay of metastatic cancer. To
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the point of people who are just tuning in, he
has the most aggressive prostate cancer we ever find, and
they got it after it has already spread beyond the
pro state, which is very very concerning. Five year survival
ray under forty percent.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
The President Trump has weighed in saying that he and
First Lady Milania Trump are hoping that former President Biden
makes a.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Full and speedy recovery.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
We're also now hearing from former First Lady Hillary Clinton.
She's saying I'm thinking of the Bidens as they take
on cancer, a disease they've done so much to try
to spare other families from wishing you a speedy and
full recovery. We've also heard from Pete Boudage as she
was during the Trump during the Biden administration, rather the
Transportation secretary. He says President Biden is a man of.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Deep faith and extraordinary resilience.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Chastin and I, speaking of his husband, are keeping him
and the entire Biden family and our prayers for strength
and healing. And it's interesting, of course that there's talk
of his deep faith and resilience. We know, of course
that President Biden has been through a number of tragedies,
including losing his first wife and daughter in a car accident,
and then later his oldest son, Bo Biden, died of
brain cancer. So now folks close to the president and
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people who are familiar with his families thinking about this
are telling me that he is getting ready to look
at all the kinds of treatments he can get, thinking
that hormone therapy might be the best treatment for this
aggressive form of cancer. But they're keeping their options open
as well as.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Where he will be treated.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So well, of course, continue to bring you reactions as
more people weigh in here.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
I'm likely that someone could get annual checkups and not
notice a PSA elevation over the past, you know. But
this is what I typically would see in a VA
hospital where a patient hasn't had medical intention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain and then
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they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art
care where we can see prostate cancer, you know, ten
years in the past. So this is I mean, it's
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it's very unusual to hear that someone has process cancer
where they're annually being followed.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Up his medical condition now has announced medical condition.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Now do you believe that silences or delays.
Speaker 10 (04:19):
A lot of conversations about his you know, last year
and a half of his presidency for now?
Speaker 11 (04:27):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think those conversations are going
to happen, but they should be more muted and set
aside for now as he's struggling through this.
Speaker 10 (04:41):
So you were talking about the scrutiny and two things. First,
start by saying that we wish President Biden the best
for this fight, as you and Mika knows so well.
He's fought through so much or viewers will appreciate that.
In my Newsword of this Morning Axios a m we
have a great photo of President Biden in his prime
when he was vice president. It's a photo that author
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Mike Grunwald took twenty sixteen of Vice President Biden then
with a bus conductor in Saint Paul, and Mike noting
how the effort that the vice president then president made
to connect with everyone he saw, Mike said, I hope
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it gets well soon.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's been through a lot.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
I think we all can say that two things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
If you look.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
At the signs beyond whether or not this test was done,
whether or not something.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Was missed, if you look at the.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
Signs that we're out there, and as frontline journalists we.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Always look at this clinically. It's never personal.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
We study power, we study institutions.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Two things.
Speaker 10 (05:49):
One, if you look at the audio tapes that actually
has posted over the weekend, five hours of tapes of
President Biden being interviewed by the Special Counsel.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Robert Hurr, painful to listen to.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
And I talked to a lot of people who've worked
with President Biden, people who love President Biden, all the
more painful for them. This was obtained by Axios Alex Thompson,
who's out with his book with Jake Tapper, Original Sin
and Mark Caputo. And in these five hours of tapes
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we hear and the transcript was out, so the facts
are not new. But listening to this five hours of audio,
which is up on axios dot com, you hear the
then president grasping for dates, grasping for details, lawyers jumping
in to try to help him answer the question.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The painful pauses.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
This interview was done over two days, five total hours
in the Map room of the White House.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You hear the.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
Ticking of the Grandfather clock in the map room in
these painful silences. Hearing this beyond the words that we've
heard and the records that we've seen, really brings it
to focus. This question that so many Democrats are asking
now is how did we go down this road? And
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Original Sin out tomorrow on the record, you have top
Democratic officials saying that that decision to run again made
things so much harder for them.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
For the party, it's moving pretty fast and I can't
tell you for sure, but he didn't just get this overnight.
He's had this for months and months. Even if it
is aggressive, it's a glease in nine, which means under
the microscope group five. Under the microscope, it's quite aggressive.
They find that it's responsive to anti testosterone type therapy.
We have that. We have it in oral form, now
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we have it in an injectable form, so he will
probably get that treatment. He should get personalized treatment too.
There's a lot of debate about whether you should do surgery,
whether you should do radiation, what you should do to
that bone test to see the fact that there's only
one is better than if there was more than that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
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going to happen.
Speaker 12 (08:29):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media, I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Will be saved or room. Here's your host, Stephen K.
Ban Is Monday, nineteen May, year over Lord, twenty twenty five.
I thought we're gonna be dealing with the budget. What
happened last night ten o'clock. Andy Harris from the head
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of the Freedom CROCSS is going to join us here
in a few months. In the next block. Laura Loover's
gonna also join us on this Joe Biden situation. And
Congressman Berlson has done a great job of a video
talk about this situation Medicaid. We're trying to get burleson
for the eleven o'clock hour, but we have to start
with this. I thought this was the as you know
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from my rants on Saturday when Marcaputa was on, I
thought that her situation and how that had been handled
and to put it bluntly covered up, was something that
had to go at the top of the doj top
of the house for a formal investigation to adjudicate this.
Then a bombshell yesterday, and I want to go back
(09:53):
and get I want to pull Schusterman and his buried lead.
This was like some somebody also tells you about the
treatment of our veterans of VA hospitals. He says, it's
something like you see it a VA hospital where somebody
walks in and what they're talking about is one of
these veterans, probably a homeless vet that hasn't had any
medical diagnosis for ten years, ten years, this guy, and
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look for the family. Situation is personal situation. You know,
best of luck. I'm sure sometimes somehow you'd try to
figure something out that's not what this is about. This
about this republic, and this is about a Pertorian guard
and is deeper than the media. I said this the
other day. It's deeper than the media. It's deeper than
the grun dunes, his political operatives in the White House.
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This is they knew he's not mentally fit, even when
they put him into twenty twenty and got got rid
of Bernie Sanders and got rid of Elizabeth Warren, the
two front runners right to put him in because they
realized he was controllable and you know, a pleasant enough
cipher that they could then, you know, generate I don't
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know six seven eight million phony ballots and defeat Trump
in twenty twenty. Yes, the twenty twenty Stone election. We're
going there on a Monday morning in May of twenty five,
because until we get to the bottom of this publicly
and get it all out, you're not going to have
a constitutional republic. You can hum a few bars, but
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you're not gonna have one. Then everything to do to
protect this guy as commander in chief when he wasn't
up to the job as commander in chief. And now
to know that he said, I cancer. This just didn't appear,
was it at lease of nine? This just didn't appear overnight?
They take us for fools, and no, Axe Rod, there's
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not going to be a pause. It's not going to
be muted. It's not gonna happen. Let me play play
Schusterman again. Listen to the doc.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice
a PSA elevation over the past. You know, but this
is what I typically would see in a VA hospital
where a patient hasn't had medical attention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain, and then
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they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art
you know care where we can see prostate cancer, you know,
ten years in the past. So this is I mean,
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it's it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate
cancer where they're annually being followed up.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The ought to sees every record of Walter reed regarding Biden,
the ought to see every record of the of the
the I assume the Navy doctors that took care of
him at the White House seas every record. Right now,
this has to be a formal inquiry, a formal inquiry
about exactly what the hell went on in this White House.
(13:11):
We would bang it every day. Remember I told you
was an illegitimate regime. You heard that every now and again.
You heard that elections have consequences, and stolen elections have
catastrophic consequences. Remember that. Look at the catastrophic consequences we're
dealing with. Andy Harris's going to be here in a moment.
We got a structural, massive problem right now. The President
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Trump and his team are trying to dig us out
of with the help of folks over in the house.
Look at the world suction. President Trump's on the phone
with Putin even as we speak. I think they're trying
to sort this mess out in Ukraine. These are not random.
It's all inastricably linked and it's all inetrictubly linked back
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to a stolen election with a total fraud, and the
Pretorian guard protected it the entire way. His incompetence is
dementia is beginning, Alzheimer's, his cancer, and they had the
gall to try to gall try to run him again.
And guess what they're gonna do this month? Oh they
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got cancer. Kamala Harris as your president for the next
four years. She couldn't win on her own. No, David oxs. Fore,
we're not gonna mute this. We're not gonna step down.
We're gonna ratchet it up. We need and demand a
formal investigation. Go to Walter Read and seize the records
right now. Go to the White House Physician's office down
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there in the first floor. Seize the records so they can't,
you know, lose them like they somehow find out they
lose everything. We've got to put the hammer down on
this for the good. If we're ever to be a
constitutional republic again, it's got to start here short, break.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
Free to get out of the Budget Committee into the
Rules Committee. There's really one more step after that to
get it to the floor and to get the big,
beautiful bill to the Senate. I think we're highly, highly optimistic,
as in one hundred percent we're going to get that
bill of the Senate. One hundred percent. We're going to
pass this bill by the middle of the summer. And
the reason is the bill is so well crafted. First,
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it's got the Tax Cuts in Jobs Act, which is
stuff that we passed in twenty seventeen, and it all
works exactly the way we said. We got the three
percent growth, we got the six five hundred dollars in
wage growth, and so on, and now we're adding new
things like the no tax overtime, no tax on Social Security.
They're going to make it even better, even faster growing,
and so on, and so the new CEA study shows
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that this is a home run of a bill for
the American people, and that's really what I think. The
big news of the weekend is that we got that
through what I think is probably the final tough hurdle
of the House, which is the House Budget Committee, which
is the toughest place to get it through.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, By the way, Wall Street Journal has a piece
out this morning. Kine Citizen Kane or a citizens Repress
has it as his lead. He's talking about the deficit
increasing by three trellion dollars under this bill. So we're
gonna get all sorted. We've got Congressman Andy Harris from
Maryland one. But he said the Freedom Caucus. So Congressman,
people are looking at the Freedom Caucus as the deficit
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hawks here. We noticed people didn't vote yes last night
or not last night. They kind of voted, you know, present.
What's the status? Is this thing going to get through?
And more importantly, we're going to get some more significant
cuts out of this so that the deficit doesn't increase,
particularly in the short term.
Speaker 12 (16:35):
Sir, Well, look, you know, I'm going to disagree with
the economic advisor you just had on This is not
one hundred percent guaranteed.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
It's far from it.
Speaker 12 (16:43):
On the bottom line is if we don't get significant
spending reduction in line to offset you know Moody's downgrade
last week, this bill is not going anywhere.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
This week.
Speaker 12 (16:54):
The bottom line is that the ground has changed last week,
that Moody's downgrade. We were warning about it the Freedom
Caucus for really years that we have to get our
debt and deficit in order.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
You know, they're whistling past the graveyard.
Speaker 12 (17:08):
It's like that never happened, but it did happen, and
we have to get back to pre COVID spending levels
wherever we can. We certainly can with Medicaid because the fraud,
waste and abuse, the gaming of the system, the giving
benefits to you know, and a half two and a
half million illegal immigrants. I mean, this is ridiculous. It
has to stop. We have a long way to go.
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We don't get there by Wednesday, and the word is
they want to have this vote Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
There's just no way it's passing on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
One of the issues I keep hearing about is that
some of the hardliners in the Freedom carkers that want
to address medicaid. And remember we I think twenty five
percent of magas on medicaid, so people got to be
very careful here. But the work requirements can't start in
twenty nine. You've got to bring those forward till today.
The illegal aliens have got to go all these base requirements.
But there's some discussion about our confusion I think from
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other people about Obamacare expansion and actually going after that.
Can you is that an issue? I think it's f map.
Is that an issue? Can you explain to people in
kind of you know, basic English, what exactly this fight
is over medicaid spending.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Sure, it's a huge issue, Steve.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
Obamacare attempted to get everybody on Medicaid for all. So
what it does is said, you know, traditional medicaid, it's
for the for the for the disabled, for pregnant, for children.
You know, it's for the poor. I mean, it's for
the people who really needed healthcare and had no other
access to health insurance.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Really, But what.
Speaker 12 (18:38):
Obamacare did is it said, we're going to provide you.
We're going to allow you to get into Medicaid. You're
a you know, twenty five year old, healthy, young male.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
You feel like you don't want to work and want
to live in your parents' basement.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, we'll pay for your Medicaid too, And not only
will pay for it, will pay seven times more.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
The federal contribution.
Speaker 12 (18:58):
Visa be the state's contribution for this healthy expansion population.
And look, that was the carrot to get these states
to expand Medicaid. The result was a forty percent increase
in Medicaid expenditures over the past five years from pre
COVID levels forty percent. The Biden administration went further. They said, oh,
by the way, you don't need to check on qualifications
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that often.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
You know, you know, if you know it was all
after COVID, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
The bottom line is, this is the most rapidly growing
part of the budget. It's growing more rapidly than medicare,
more rapidly than Social Security, and it's all because of
the Obamacare expansion. So what we have to do is
we have to say no, no, If you want to
expand that's fine, but you're not getting paid seven times
as much for the federal government as what you're getting
paid for your high risk population, for your needy population.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We'll just pay you at the same rate.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
If we did that, all those states would stop expanding Medicaid.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
And again, a lot of.
Speaker 12 (19:55):
Those people qualify for Obamacare. They can get they can
go on the subsect, but they got to pay a premium.
They got to pay some and of course, if they're
able to work, they should work. We have to get
that because if we don't, the remaining dozen or so
states that have not expanded into that population will expand,
and that will cost about a half a trillion dollars
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over the next ten years.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
It'll wipe out all.
Speaker 12 (20:18):
The projected savings from things like work requirements and throwing
illegals off. It'll wipe out all that, and it'll increase
our budget deficit. We can't do that anymore. The bottom
line is times have changed since last week. We can't
do it, and they're pretending. I mean, look that economic device,
pretending like Moodi's didn't downgrade us last week.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
They did.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Interest rates will go up.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
We don't even know, Steve, what the cost of that
interest rate increase is going to be on our deficit
for the next ten years, but it will be significant
because the market's already responded this morning with bond rates
going up.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, I think the thirties over five and the tens
over four point five. So what's the pushback on you
just laid out sounds perfectly logical. It takes care of MAGA.
You've got to work. It's only eighty hours as a minimum.
You can't have this kind of essentially money laundering the
seven times more. I don't understand. Then, what's the pushback
from your other House member, from the Speaker and other
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House members, forget the White House, just inside the House
Republican Caucus. How could this not be fairly self evident, sir?
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Because they're a handful of moderates who claim that they
will be defeated in the next election if they if
somehow we gut medicaid. We're not gutting medicaid. We're preserving
it for the truly needy. The bottom line is we
have to get to that next election. I will tell
you after that Mood's downgrade, there is a chance that
this spirals out of control in the next eighteen months.
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It definitely will spile out of control the next three years.
We have to do something. Look, if you came to
Washington to get re elected, go back come because that's
not what this country needs. This country needs a group
of men and women who came to save the country.
And that means occasionally you have to take a really
tough vote and then convince your constitution of why you
did it. This one is crystal clear. They should be
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able to go back home and convince people why they
did it to save our country.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Is this the central issue that we're dealing with now?
Are there other issues that rise to this level? Or
if not, what are the other two or three secondary issues?
Speaker 12 (22:19):
There are a couple of other issues, but this is
the big one again because you know, this is the
largest growing program in the federal government, so this is
a big one. Obviously, we have dealt with the food
stamp issue that was the second largest growing program in
the federal government.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And again we.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
Should be looking to return to pre COVID spending levels
wherever we can. So dose got a good start the
administration by cutting a lot of the grants, the grants
to non governmental organizations or ngngos. That's a good start,
but we have a long way to go. The most
important thing we have to do with this bill is
to make sure it doesn't increase our deficit in the
next five years, and.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Steve, that's the game here.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
You know, the deficit goes up in the first five
years and then goes down, quote goes down in the
second five years. We'll never get to the second five
years because if we have the fiscal problem, the fiscal
collapse what I call and interest rates go to seven, eight, nine,
ten eleven percent as they did in the eighties.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
This whole house of cards falls down.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Is anybody working like is Treasury or OMB or Hassett
at NEC National Economica. Has anybody put out a set
of math that you guys can sit there and you
can actually show them. Hey, the deficit goes up in
the first couple of years, like the Wall Street Journal
saying today, So we can't do that because we'll never
get to the back end. We'll never get to where
the structural cuts are. Is anybody sat in a room
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with people and say that's just not logical, and let's
figure out how we don't do that.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Steve, The amazing thing is everybody knows that's true.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
This is the old Washington game. We're going to look
at a ten year budget window. We're going to do
all the spending up front, We're going to do the
savings at the tail end, and we never get to.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
The tail end.
Speaker 12 (23:58):
The bottom line is this is the way the swamp
has worked. Look, this is my fifteenth year. I can't
believe that this happens time and time again. This is
just the latest iteration. But we can't now, we can't
afford to make this mistake again. We literally can't afford.
This is existential again. If the bond markets fail, the
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spiral will be out of control. I hope President Trump
doesn't want that to occur under his watch. I'm sure
he doesn't. The best way to avoid it is to
solve this medicaid issue in this bill.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
What and you're confident in solving this, you're not a
viscerating MAGA the twenty five percent of MAGA that's on
medicate sir.
Speaker 12 (24:43):
Well, Look, if somebody is not working, they should be working.
It's the bottom line. That's a message we should send. Otherwise,
let's just become Democrats and give everybody money, you know,
not to work and to go on welfare. With regards
to the rest of it, it's now going to be
a state. So all we're doing is we're saying, look, states,
you've got to pay your fair share for that expansion population.
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It's a state decision to get them off of that.
And that's what we have to talk about. We have
to talk about this is unfair. You know, if a
state wants to do it, your argument is not with
the federal government.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
It's not with your federal representative.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
It's actually with your state representatives who don't want to
flip the bill for their citizens.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I know you get a bounce, but you're saying right now,
the way you see it, you don't see you get
into a vote by Wednesday. Sir.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Oh, they may bring it up for a vote by Wednesday,
but they better be prepared to lose, because there is
no way this passes on Wednesday without without another major
spending reduction in this package. I mean, I just know
where the votes are, I know who the people are.
They are a group of people like me who didn't
come to Washington to get re elected. We came to
Washington to save the country. And again, look, the President
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is likely to call me. I'm just going to tell
the President, look, miss President, you don't want you don't
want this bill. I'm voting to make sure that we
don't have a fiscal collapse. And that's that's the way
it is. And I hope the President listens to the message.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Where do people follow you on social media? Congressman?
Speaker 7 (26:14):
They go to Rep. Andy Harris, they go to Harris
dot House dot gov.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
We've got we've got a Twitter account and we an
x account and we will be tweeting about this over
the next few days.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We understand, Congressman, thank you for coming on and thank
you for being so blunt. Appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Uh that was no happy talk. That was pretty Uh.
That was pretty blunt, refreshing, refreshingly blunt. Short commercial break'n
dive deep into this budget today. Also a cover up
that makes Watergate look like a Sunday afternoon church picnic.
That's this Biden illegitimate, Biden regime flourishing in their illegitimacy
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after they've been tossed from office.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Next and because it was a four lane highway that
was accessible, my mother drove us and rather than us
be able to walk and guess what the first frost.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know what was happening.
Speaker 13 (27:12):
It had to put on your windshield wipers to get
literally the oils look off the window. That's why I
had so damn any other people I grew up have
cancer and why camp For the longest time, Delaware had
the highest cancer rate.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
In the nation.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice
a PSA elevation over the past, you know, but this
is what I typically would see in a VA hospital
where a patient hasn't had medical attention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain and then
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they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art,
you know care where we can see prostate cancer, you know,
ten years in the past. So this is I mean,
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it's it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate
cancer where they're annually being followed up.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Okay, we're going to get back to the budget and
budget deficis here in a moment, I want to bring
in Laura Lumer, who joins us by phone. She's traveling. Laura,
correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you put out a
quite controversial tweet. I'm shocked I'm saying this. I'm connecting
Laura Lumer with a controversial tweet. Didn't you put it
(28:37):
a controversial tweet a year or so ago saying that
Biden had an emergency, some medical emergency on Air Force
one and they might divert the plane or something, and
later they denied it. Did you know about this early on? Ma'am. Yes.
Speaker 14 (28:52):
On July fifth, I believe that's the date I tweeted
that Joe Biden was having a medical emergency on Air
Force one. I said, it's happening right now. Biden just
had a medical emergency on Air Force one and press
access has been removed, and the tweet was seen about
forty million times. Elon Musk reacted to it, and I
was demonized in the media. They said I made up
(29:14):
the story, they said it was fake news. And then
days later I said, Biden is very ill. He's in Delaware,
his family is making final preparations for him. He is
in the terminal phase of his illness, and Kamala Harris
might indeed take over the responsibilities for Biden as president.
He might succumb to his terminal illness. And I had
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been told by a source that Biden had entered the
terminal phase of his illness. Terminal means six months to
one year left to live. Of course, there's always outliers.
But that was last July, and so we are now
at the end of May, almost and you know, a
lot of people are wondering whether or not Joe Biden
is going to be dead within the next thirty sixty
to ninety days, and that would of course follow the
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timeline of my exclusive reporting last year in July. And
now you see Jay Capper and all these people in
the left wing media who said that I was spreading
conspiracies come out with really the same exact information. So
massive cover up here, and it looks like now doctors
are finally admitting that Biden appears to have had cancer
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throughout his entire presidency. You had a doctor that went
on MSDNC this morning and said, it's it's very unlikely,
nearly impossible for the president of the United States of America,
who gets multiple checkups per year, to not have a
PSA level detected for the cancer to spread to his bones.
And now you see all these gaps in the media
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that they said, oh, you know, there was a gaf.
It was a gaf. He's just you know, an old,
forgetful man. You know, Biden flipped up several times and
said he had cancer. He had a colonoscopy, if you recall,
or Kamala Harris briefly assumed the power of the presidency,
and everybody thought it was very bizarre for a routine colonoscopy.
But now we know probably wasn't a routine colonoscopy. It
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probably was a very invasive procedure, and given the fact
that Biden was terminally ill at the time, they probably
wondered if he was going to die on the operating
room table.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You're a warrior in the information war. It's all about narratives.
How wall me through how the her tape? First off,
the herd tape gets released because Capudo says, hey, I'm
the first guy asked for it back in January and
they didn't have it. The landing team of the Beachhead
team couldn't find it. Number one, why is it Axios
(31:38):
putting this out? And it's not the administration, not the
Justice Department of the FBI announcing there's been an investigation
on this thing since the afternoon of January twentieth, twenty
twenty one. And then did the left panic And that's
why they finally said, oh, we got to we got
to bury that by saying he's about to die, and
(32:00):
you get a saying, oh, all the discussion now about
her must be muted or must be taken down a
couple of notches. Ma'am, Well, I.
Speaker 14 (32:08):
Think that there's a pervasive rot that still exists within
the DOJ. I think it's really suspicious. And then look,
I like Mark Caputo as a person, but I do
think it's a little bizarre that under the current Trump administration,
a leftist publication was able to get the you know,
exclusive access to this tape that even conservative conservative organizations,
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watchdog organizations filed Boyer requests to receive and never once received.
So again, it's like this this typical trend that we
oftentimes see within the Trump administration. And I'm not blaming
President Trump for this, but oftentimes some of his staff
or some of his officials will reward fake news entities. Right,
It's not like Axios was really ahead of the curve
(32:51):
on this. They're now trying to take credit and Alex
Thompson is peddling his book with Jay Capper. But if
you recall all of these outlets, demon ice can serve
arvatives were even daring to question whether or not Joe
Biden had a mental deficiency or some kind of illness.
They said it was deep fakes. They said that the
images that we were posting were artificial intelligence deep fakes.
(33:13):
And so I would question the intentions of the DOJ.
It's no surprise that I don't think that Pam Blondie
is doing a good job. I think that it speaks volumes.
As I said before, the Axios was able to get
the exclusive audio tapes that allows the left wing media
to control the narrative on this, even though they completely
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demonized Donald Trump, demonized all of his supporters for years.
I mean, look, we've been calling out Joe Biden for
almost six years now. This isn't just something new. If
you recall, even Barack Hussein Obama said never underestimate Joe
Biden's ability to f things up. That's a direct Obama quote,
and he was saying that because Joe Biden had so
many gaffs, and we now know these were not gaffs.
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He has had an illness for probably you know, ten
to twelve years now that has been cumulative over time,
and now he's in the terminal, terminal stage of his illness,
as I reported a year ago. So I don't think
people should be applauding Axios. I don't think people should
be applauding Jake Capper. I don't think people should be
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applauding or rewarding Alex Thompson with book sales either. I
think that there.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Needs a mask condensay, so David Axelrod. David Axelrod says,
because of the expose of the cancer. I mean, they
treat us like idiots, so they reveal the cancer on Sunday.
After this thing blows up on Saturday, Friday night and Saturday,
What then is to be done? What is your recommendation
to DOJ. What's your recommendation to the House. What's your
recommendation investigative reporters? What should be done here? Given you
(34:48):
may not have Biden around in six seven, eight months, ma'am.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
Well, as I reported last year, I said that it
was my belief that doctor Kevin O'Connor, who was the
White House position, was fabricating Biden's medical records. I think
that now appears to be correct, and I would immediately
encourage the DOJ to investigate doctor Kevin O'Connor. I think
that his medical license should be revoked. I think that
(35:16):
they should subpoena him and ask him why he appears
to have fabricated I mean, that's what it looks like.
It looks like Kevin O'Connor fabricated Joe Biden's medical records.
You see the report that he released in a letter
from Physician to the President at the White House on
official letter letterhead on February sixteenth of twenty twenty three,
(35:36):
in which he said that I quote conducted a comprehensive
review of President Biden's medical history and a detailed physical
examination in which he said that he had perfect health.
So you know, there definitely needs to be an investigation
into all of the physicians who paid Joe Biden visits.
And that's not just doctor Kevin O'Connor. That would also
(35:59):
include doctor Kevin Cannard, who is the Parkinson's disease specialist
who met with Joe Biden and doctor Kevin O'Connor at
the White House on January seventeenth, twenty twenty four. I
think that all of his staff need to be subpoena
and there needs to be an investigation in charges brought
against doctor Jill, the fake doctor who has committed elder abuse.
(36:19):
And we also need to investigate the legitimacy of all
of the pardons, as Ed Martin said, because well, if
Joe Biden had cancer and he was terminally ill, that
means that these autopen pardons are completely illegitimate. So that
would be my recommendation. I don't think that these physicians
should be allowed to practice medicine anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And you think this should come from the This should
come from DOJ and fbid that a formal investigations. They
should subpoena these records today. I think maybe even Seese
whatever over at Walter Reed, that this should begin immediately
and this should be a formal inquiry.
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Absolutely. I mean, this is the biggest This, in my opinion,
is the biggest political scandal to ever come out of
the White House for any president in US history. I mean,
we're talking about potentially an illegitimate occupants of the White House,
a man who stole the election. And not only did
he steal the election, but it appears that his wife
(37:18):
and all of the White House staffs, and all of
the White House aides, and the White House physicians and
medical staff at Walter Reed, engaged in a criminal cover
up of fabricating medical records to hide the fact that
Joe Biden had cancer and other issues as well cognitive
issues for the entirety of his presidency. I mean, you
(37:38):
have the admission from him on video that you played
at the top of the show saying that he had
cancer in twenty twenty two. And now you also have
physicians on MSDNC and CNN coming out this morning saying
that it's impossible. It is impossible with Joe Biden's level
of care and the type the type of medical checkups
(38:00):
and tests that he was being subjected to every single year,
multiple times a year as President of the United States.
Illegitimate of course, for them to miss this, for them
to miss this, it just doesn't happen overnight. You don't
get cancer that spreads to your bones overnight. So there
needs to be a criminal investigation, and needs to be
more than just an investigation, because I know I speak
(38:21):
for many in the war room audience, Steve when I say,
we're sick and tired of the blowhards and the GOP
talking about their nonsense investigations. We want people to go
to jail. We don't want to have James Comber talk
about this. So then you know, James Comber can go
write another crappy book about his investigation into Joe Biden.
You know, we've had enough enough books. If you want
(38:42):
to write a book, then drop out of Congress and
go write a book. You know, go join James Comy
and you guys can hang out with your seashells and
write books together on the beach somewhere. I just think
we need to have real investigations and there needs to
actually be some accountability. We need to see people go
to jail. We are months into the Trump administration passed
someone to undred day mark and Pam Blondie has failed
(39:04):
to bring any real charges against anybody.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
Steve.
Speaker 14 (39:07):
It's an abomination. As I reported this weekend, you have
James Comy's daughter and James Comy's son in law still
working at the DOJ. When are these people going to
get fired? Cleaning house means cleaning house. It appears that
we relyed to by people in the FBI and people
in the new DOJ who told us we were going
to have a day one reset.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And we've had the Justice Partner have had these tapes
since the afternoon twenty January twenty twenty one. It's fine
the media got them, but what action. I agree with you, Brennan, Comy, Millie,
all of them. Laura, what's your social media? Where do
people get you? Ma'am?
Speaker 14 (39:43):
You can follow me on x at Laura Lumer and
also at Lumer Unleashed, and you can visit my website
lumored dot com for all types of exclusive reporting you're
not going to see anywhere else. And catch my show
on Rumble every Tuesday and Thursday, nine pm Eastern Rumble
dot com slash Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Laura, thank you for taking time away. Did I know
you're traveling to join us by phone?
Speaker 14 (40:07):
Laura Lumer, thanks for having me appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Laura Lumor is correct, point blank. This is ten x
bigger than Watergate. Ten x. You had an illegitimate president
MC guy. Go back to the railhead. I said from
the beginning, you got to investigate twenty twenty. This is
all of a piece. Ladies and gentlemen. We told you
(40:34):
they were crooks, We told you he was illegitimate. And
now in May of twenty twenty five, they finally released
the tape so you can listen to your with your
own ears. Hear what you hear. Then they dropped the bombshell,
Oh wow, he's got cancer terminol short break, here's your host.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Even that.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Can play the can we pull uh the Kevin Hassett
that let off Andy Andy Harris's congressman Harris's tell me
Denver when you emplay that. Let's go ahead and play it,
because I want to make sure the audience that we're
all understanding what the music and the lyrics are here. Okay,
(41:24):
go ahead and play it. First.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
It's a massive victory.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
To get it out of the Budget Committee into the
Rules Committee. There's really one more step after that to
get it to the floor and to get the big
beautiful bill to the Senate. I think we're highly, highly optimistic,
as in one hundred percent we're going to get that
bill of the Senate. One hundred percent. We're going to
pass this bill by the middle of the summer. And
the reason is the bill is so well crafted. First,
(41:47):
it's got the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is
stuff that we passed in twenty seventeen, and it all
works exactly the way we said. We got the three
percent growth, we got the six five hundred dollars in
wage growth and so on, and now we're adding new
things like the no tax overtime, no tax on so security.
They're going to make it even better, even even faster
growing and so on, and so the new CEA study
(42:08):
shows that this is a home run of a bill
for the American people. And that's really what I think
the big news of the weekend is that we got
that through what I think is probably the final tough
hurdle of the House, which is the House Budget Comittee,
which is the toughest place to get it, to get
it through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
So you heard and Harris say, hey, they so got it.
And look, let's let's would just notified that President Trump
is now on the phone with Putin. So President Trump
in the three big areas trying to end the kinnetic
part of the Third World War. You get some sort
of Russian rock proschement, so we put we can put Ukraine,
(42:43):
and then this situation in Persia put him to bed
because they need to be put to bed. And so
President Trump's doing that. He's uh. They've got a fantastic
piece in the Federalist today about how this judicial revolt
is actually a udicial coup against the commander in chief.
It's a must read by Margo Cleveland. I've got that
(43:06):
up on Ghetter, you got to read that. On this,
I mean, can you solve the medicaid problem and try
to reverse this expansion in winfel Swoop. I don't know
here's what I do know you can't have. So maybe
that's and that structurally is a big issue. I know that,
and there's a lot of people worked up about it.
(43:27):
And we don't want to cut medicaid to the folks
that need it, right, Like I said, twenty five percent,
I think twenty five percent of MAGA is on medicaid.
You don't want to cut medicaid to those who need it.
But it's got to be very restrictive. You get no.
Two and a half many illegal aliens all got to go.
The able bodied that got to have a minimum work
(43:48):
requirement or volunteer requirement or school requirement, technical training thing.
It's eighty hours a month. Come on, man, that's nothing.
Should be eighty hours a week. Okay, people got to
be out there working or trying to find work. But
this about this expansion, it's going to be a fight.
(44:08):
My issue is just it's to pull back the camera
and just look at Andy Harris's You've got this ten
year They do this ten year budget, and the scams
always the same. The savings all come in the out
years and they never materialize. They just never materialize. So
now we got to increase in spending for the deportations.
(44:30):
What you need the defense, which I don't think you need.
I think it's nice to have. I think we'd like
to have it, but we're in a must have it
situation right now. The bottom line, The Wall Street Journal
has got that article up. Everybody are to read it.
And you know, I'm no fan of the Wall Street Journal,
particularly the editorial page, but I think their numbers are
pretty solid. This is what I've been saying. The deficit
(44:52):
does increase in the first couple of years. I don't
think we're in what the plan was, and the plan
is a good plan. It's not a perfect plan, but
get the deficit from six and a half percent of
GDP down to three and a half percent of GDP. Now,
if there are other revenue streams that people are not
(45:13):
taking situation, like the external revenue service in tariffs, you've
already had a record month in tariffs. Maybe the tariffs
have got a couple hundred billion dollars. I don't know.
That hasn't been formally laid out. I don't think this
is why I keep saying that somebody's got to put
forward a model. HASSE doesn't need to come on and
continue to talk about the politics of it. What we
(45:35):
need to do is have an adults conversation, then debate,
then discussion, then yelling at each other, but around a
set of math that people agree. So everything ought to
be thrown into the kittie. Number one has to just said,
there's no tax on Social Security. I didn't see that.
I see where there's four thousand dollars that you can
put to it, but you're still taxing Social Security. So
(45:55):
I think it's pretty unclear on the on some of
the revenue side, but on the cost side. On the
revenue side, if you've got money coming in from tariffs
and you think it's pretty consistent, let's show it. Right.
If we've got money's coming in from any other ways,
let's show it. Let's get agreed upon growth rate that
at least we can say, okay, that sounds logical. Then
(46:16):
that drives the rest of revenue. Let's show it. Let's
show every aspect of cutting. And I think it's going
to become evident of the defense and other discretionary spending.
I don't know how you don't go after this. You've
got you've got to show that you're bending the arc
on the on the you know, on the deficits from
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six and a half down to three and a half
as percentage of GDP. The downgrade, and Scott Besson said,
it's backward looking. Okay, it's backward looking, but it's still
a fact we still have. And because all the great
efforts Scott's best, it's the one taking over from Yellen.
The debts still at what thirty six and a half,
(46:58):
but the moment we passed the debt seat increase, it's
going to go up to thirty seven because of all
the extraordinary measures he's going to do are going to
be lifted and it'll be part of the there will
become part of the debt. Also, just the math if
you do if you have fiscal year twenty five, which
in September thirty because you took Biden's the illegitimate Biden budget, right,
(47:20):
which we did. This is the Speaker, and we're doing
this in fiscal year twenty six. It starts October first.
I don't know, show me the math says that shows
that we don't blow through the four trillion dollars added
to the exuded to the debt stinies, so we're not
a forty trellion dollars by the midterm elections. Just somebody
(47:41):
show me a model that shows us. So when you
looked and said, okay, I see these assumptions. I agree
with that. That that maybe I don't agree with this. Also,
the cuts that doose are supposed to find. I understand
that they're now trying to be codified in some sort
of recisions. Let's see what that number is. Let's get
it all on the table so that we can all
speak from it, and so the president can see this.
(48:04):
I'm not sure he's shown all the numbers. I just
don't know. Maybe, so Russ ought to come out and
Hassen and Scott and they ought to work together. We
ought to get a set of numbers. Then and then
with the Endy and these guys say, hey, look, maybe
we can't do everything. You're trying to reverse Obamacare. At
least aspects of it. Maybe that's doable, and maybe all
(48:28):
of it's not doable. But that's the discussion we've got
to have this weekend. It can't have some artificial deadline
that's got to happen by Labor Day weekend. It has
to be right because we're going to live with this.
This is going to be a permanent part of President
Trump's legacy. I told you June fifteenth, the ten anniversary
of coming down the escalator. That's nothing but a preamble
(48:50):
for what's going to happen in the next one hundred
or so days between Putin and the taxes and the
border and the judges and all of it.
That we're given or not given.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We know that they struggled with memory lapses during this conversation,
but obviously hearing the tape is a different thing. It
does emphasize and underscore just how much trouble he had
in that interview and why Robert Herr, the special counsel,
decided not to bring charges. Remember, Robert Hurst said that
he decided not to bring charges in part because the
(00:22):
present seemed like a forgetful old man and that that
would be hard to convince a jury that he knowingly
violated the law. Well, how did he make that determination?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He made it in part through this interview that we're
now hearing through this audio tape, And therefore the hearing
the auto tape does have a value in that sense
to help us understand what her was evaluating.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Welcome back to the Weekend Prime Time. We are starting
this hour with our breaking news. Former President Joe Biden
has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.
His personal office is saying in a statement that it
appears to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management,
and Biden and his family are reviewing their treatment options
(01:04):
with multiple physicians.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
This cancer was diagnosed by urinary symptoms rather than the
way we find it most of the time, which is
what Joe Kanchi was asking in the last hour. Usually
we find it with no symptoms. He's already got symptoms,
which means it's pretty advanced. He's having urinary symptoms heading
towards urinary retention. He's got spread of this prostate cancer
to the bone in one spot, which is going to
(01:29):
cause him pain. And the biggest news we're hearing is
that this particular cancer, which is quite aggressive, is testosterone dependent,
meaning that the hormone testosterone is very involved with how
aggressive it is, which means it should respond to anti
testosterone therapy, which is the mainstay of metastatic cancer. To
(01:52):
the point of people who are just tuning in, he
has the most aggressive prostate cancer we ever find, and
they got it after it has already spread beyond the
pro state, which is very very concerning. Five year survival
ray under forty percent.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
The President Trump has weighed in saying that he and
First Lady Milania Trump are hoping that former President Biden
makes a.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Full and speedy recovery.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
We're also now hearing from former First Lady Hillary Clinton.
She's saying I'm thinking of the Bidens as they take
on cancer, a disease they've done so much to try
to spare other families from wishing you a speedy and
full recovery. We've also heard from Pete Boudage as she
was during the Trump during the Biden administration, rather the
Transportation secretary. He says President Biden is a man of.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Deep faith and extraordinary resilience.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Chastin and I, speaking of his husband, are keeping him
and the entire Biden family and our prayers for strength
and healing. And it's interesting, of course that there's talk
of his deep faith and resilience. We know, of course
that President Biden has been through a number of tragedies,
including losing his first wife and daughter in a car accident,
and then later his oldest son, Bo Biden, died of
brain cancer. So now folks close to the president and
(03:00):
people who are familiar with his families thinking about this
are telling me that he is getting ready to look
at all the kinds of treatments he can get, thinking
that hormone therapy might be the best treatment for this
aggressive form of cancer. But they're keeping their options open
as well as.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Where he will be treated.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So well, of course, continue to bring you reactions as
more people weigh in here.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
I'm likely that someone could get annual checkups and not
notice a PSA elevation over the past, you know. But
this is what I typically would see in a VA
hospital where a patient hasn't had medical intention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain and then
(03:41):
they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art
care where we can see prostate cancer, you know, ten
years in the past. So this is I mean, it's
(04:02):
it's very unusual to hear that someone has process cancer
where they're annually being followed.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Up his medical condition now has announced medical condition.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Now do you believe that silences or delays.
Speaker 10 (04:19):
A lot of conversations about his you know, last year
and a half of his presidency for now?
Speaker 11 (04:27):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think those conversations are going
to happen, but they should be more muted and set
aside for now as he's struggling through this.
Speaker 10 (04:41):
So you were talking about the scrutiny and two things. First,
start by saying that we wish President Biden the best
for this fight, as you and Mika knows so well.
He's fought through so much or viewers will appreciate that.
In my Newsword of this Morning Axios a m we
have a great photo of President Biden in his prime
when he was vice president. It's a photo that author
(05:04):
Mike Grunwald took twenty sixteen of Vice President Biden then
with a bus conductor in Saint Paul, and Mike noting
how the effort that the vice president then president made
to connect with everyone he saw, Mike said, I hope
(05:24):
it gets well soon.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He's been through a lot.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
I think we all can say that two things.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
If you look.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
At the signs beyond whether or not this test was done,
whether or not something.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Was missed, if you look at the.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
Signs that we're out there, and as frontline journalists we.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Always look at this clinically. It's never personal.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
We study power, we study institutions.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Two things.
Speaker 10 (05:49):
One, if you look at the audio tapes that actually
has posted over the weekend, five hours of tapes of
President Biden being interviewed by the Special Counsel.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Robert Hurr, painful to listen to.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
And I talked to a lot of people who've worked
with President Biden, people who love President Biden, all the
more painful for them. This was obtained by Axios Alex Thompson,
who's out with his book with Jake Tapper, Original Sin
and Mark Caputo. And in these five hours of tapes
(06:25):
we hear and the transcript was out, so the facts
are not new. But listening to this five hours of audio,
which is up on axios dot com, you hear the
then president grasping for dates, grasping for details, lawyers jumping
in to try to help him answer the question.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The painful pauses.
Speaker 10 (06:46):
This interview was done over two days, five total hours
in the Map room of the White House.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You hear the.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
Ticking of the Grandfather clock in the map room in
these painful silences. Hearing this beyond the words that we've
heard and the records that we've seen, really brings it
to focus. This question that so many Democrats are asking
now is how did we go down this road? And
(07:17):
Original Sin out tomorrow on the record, you have top
Democratic officials saying that that decision to run again made
things so much harder for them.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
For the party, it's moving pretty fast and I can't
tell you for sure, but he didn't just get this overnight.
He's had this for months and months. Even if it
is aggressive, it's a glease in nine, which means under
the microscope group five. Under the microscope, it's quite aggressive.
They find that it's responsive to anti testosterone type therapy.
We have that. We have it in oral form, now
(07:48):
we have it in an injectable form, so he will
probably get that treatment. He should get personalized treatment too.
There's a lot of debate about whether you should do surgery,
whether you should do radiation, what you should do to
that bone test to see the fact that there's only
one is better than if there was more than that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
(08:28):
going to happen.
Speaker 12 (08:29):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media, I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Will be saved or room. Here's your host, Stephen K.
Ban Is Monday, nineteen May, year over Lord, twenty twenty five.
I thought we're gonna be dealing with the budget. What
happened last night ten o'clock. Andy Harris from the head
(09:09):
of the Freedom CROCSS is going to join us here
in a few months. In the next block. Laura Loover's
gonna also join us on this Joe Biden situation. And
Congressman Berlson has done a great job of a video
talk about this situation Medicaid. We're trying to get burleson
for the eleven o'clock hour, but we have to start
with this. I thought this was the as you know
(09:31):
from my rants on Saturday when Marcaputa was on, I
thought that her situation and how that had been handled
and to put it bluntly covered up, was something that
had to go at the top of the doj top
of the house for a formal investigation to adjudicate this.
Then a bombshell yesterday, and I want to go back
(09:53):
and get I want to pull Schusterman and his buried lead.
This was like some somebody also tells you about the
treatment of our veterans of VA hospitals. He says, it's
something like you see it a VA hospital where somebody
walks in and what they're talking about is one of
these veterans, probably a homeless vet that hasn't had any
medical diagnosis for ten years, ten years, this guy, and
(10:23):
look for the family. Situation is personal situation. You know,
best of luck. I'm sure sometimes somehow you'd try to
figure something out that's not what this is about. This
about this republic, and this is about a Pertorian guard
and is deeper than the media. I said this the
other day. It's deeper than the media. It's deeper than
the grun dunes, his political operatives in the White House.
(10:47):
This is they knew he's not mentally fit, even when
they put him into twenty twenty and got got rid
of Bernie Sanders and got rid of Elizabeth Warren, the
two front runners right to put him in because they
realized he was controllable and you know, a pleasant enough
cipher that they could then, you know, generate I don't
(11:08):
know six seven eight million phony ballots and defeat Trump
in twenty twenty. Yes, the twenty twenty Stone election. We're
going there on a Monday morning in May of twenty five,
because until we get to the bottom of this publicly
and get it all out, you're not going to have
a constitutional republic. You can hum a few bars, but
(11:29):
you're not gonna have one. Then everything to do to
protect this guy as commander in chief when he wasn't
up to the job as commander in chief. And now
to know that he said, I cancer. This just didn't appear,
was it at lease of nine? This just didn't appear overnight?
They take us for fools, and no, Axe Rod, there's
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not going to be a pause. It's not going to
be muted. It's not gonna happen. Let me play play
Schusterman again. Listen to the doc.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice
a PSA elevation over the past. You know, but this
is what I typically would see in a VA hospital
where a patient hasn't had medical attention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain, and then
(12:19):
they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art
you know care where we can see prostate cancer, you know,
ten years in the past. So this is I mean,
(12:39):
it's it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate
cancer where they're annually being followed up.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The ought to sees every record of Walter reed regarding Biden,
the ought to see every record of the of the
the I assume the Navy doctors that took care of
him at the White House seas every record. Right now,
this has to be a formal inquiry, a formal inquiry
about exactly what the hell went on in this White House.
(13:11):
We would bang it every day. Remember I told you
was an illegitimate regime. You heard that every now and again.
You heard that elections have consequences, and stolen elections have
catastrophic consequences. Remember that. Look at the catastrophic consequences we're
dealing with. Andy Harris's going to be here in a moment.
We got a structural, massive problem right now. The President
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Trump and his team are trying to dig us out
of with the help of folks over in the house.
Look at the world suction. President Trump's on the phone
with Putin even as we speak. I think they're trying
to sort this mess out in Ukraine. These are not random.
It's all inastricably linked and it's all inetrictubly linked back
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to a stolen election with a total fraud, and the
Pretorian guard protected it the entire way. His incompetence is
dementia is beginning, Alzheimer's, his cancer, and they had the
gall to try to gall try to run him again.
And guess what they're gonna do this month? Oh they
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got cancer. Kamala Harris as your president for the next
four years. She couldn't win on her own. No, David oxs. Fore,
we're not gonna mute this. We're not gonna step down.
We're gonna ratchet it up. We need and demand a
formal investigation. Go to Walter Read and seize the records
right now. Go to the White House Physician's office down
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there in the first floor. Seize the records so they can't,
you know, lose them like they somehow find out they
lose everything. We've got to put the hammer down on
this for the good. If we're ever to be a
constitutional republic again, it's got to start here short, break.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
Free to get out of the Budget Committee into the
Rules Committee. There's really one more step after that to
get it to the floor and to get the big,
beautiful bill to the Senate. I think we're highly, highly optimistic,
as in one hundred percent we're going to get that
bill of the Senate. One hundred percent. We're going to
pass this bill by the middle of the summer. And
the reason is the bill is so well crafted. First,
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it's got the Tax Cuts in Jobs Act, which is
stuff that we passed in twenty seventeen, and it all
works exactly the way we said. We got the three
percent growth, we got the six five hundred dollars in
wage growth, and so on, and now we're adding new
things like the no tax overtime, no tax on Social Security.
They're going to make it even better, even faster growing,
and so on, and so the new CEA study shows
(15:41):
that this is a home run of a bill for
the American people, and that's really what I think. The
big news of the weekend is that we got that
through what I think is probably the final tough hurdle
of the House, which is the House Budget Committee, which
is the toughest place to get it through.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, By the way, Wall Street Journal has a piece
out this morning. Kine Citizen Kane or a citizens Repress
has it as his lead. He's talking about the deficit
increasing by three trellion dollars under this bill. So we're
gonna get all sorted. We've got Congressman Andy Harris from
Maryland one. But he said the Freedom Caucus. So Congressman,
people are looking at the Freedom Caucus as the deficit
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hawks here. We noticed people didn't vote yes last night
or not last night. They kind of voted, you know, present.
What's the status? Is this thing going to get through?
And more importantly, we're going to get some more significant
cuts out of this so that the deficit doesn't increase,
particularly in the short term.
Speaker 12 (16:35):
Sir, Well, look, you know, I'm going to disagree with
the economic advisor you just had on This is not
one hundred percent guaranteed.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
It's far from it.
Speaker 12 (16:43):
On the bottom line is if we don't get significant
spending reduction in line to offset you know Moody's downgrade
last week, this bill is not going anywhere.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
This week.
Speaker 12 (16:54):
The bottom line is that the ground has changed last week,
that Moody's downgrade. We were warning about it the Freedom
Caucus for really years that we have to get our
debt and deficit in order.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
You know, they're whistling past the graveyard.
Speaker 12 (17:08):
It's like that never happened, but it did happen, and
we have to get back to pre COVID spending levels
wherever we can. We certainly can with Medicaid because the fraud,
waste and abuse, the gaming of the system, the giving
benefits to you know, and a half two and a
half million illegal immigrants. I mean, this is ridiculous. It
has to stop. We have a long way to go.
(17:29):
We don't get there by Wednesday, and the word is
they want to have this vote Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
There's just no way it's passing on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
One of the issues I keep hearing about is that
some of the hardliners in the Freedom carkers that want
to address medicaid. And remember we I think twenty five
percent of magas on medicaid, so people got to be
very careful here. But the work requirements can't start in
twenty nine. You've got to bring those forward till today.
The illegal aliens have got to go all these base requirements.
But there's some discussion about our confusion I think from
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other people about Obamacare expansion and actually going after that.
Can you is that an issue? I think it's f map.
Is that an issue? Can you explain to people in
kind of you know, basic English, what exactly this fight
is over medicaid spending.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Sure, it's a huge issue, Steve.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
Obamacare attempted to get everybody on Medicaid for all. So
what it does is said, you know, traditional medicaid, it's
for the for the for the disabled, for pregnant, for children.
You know, it's for the poor. I mean, it's for
the people who really needed healthcare and had no other
access to health insurance.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Really, But what.
Speaker 12 (18:38):
Obamacare did is it said, we're going to provide you.
We're going to allow you to get into Medicaid. You're
a you know, twenty five year old, healthy, young male.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
You feel like you don't want to work and want
to live in your parents' basement.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, we'll pay for your Medicaid too, And not only
will pay for it, will pay seven times more.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
The federal contribution.
Speaker 12 (18:58):
Visa be the state's contribution for this healthy expansion population.
And look, that was the carrot to get these states
to expand Medicaid. The result was a forty percent increase
in Medicaid expenditures over the past five years from pre
COVID levels forty percent. The Biden administration went further. They said, oh,
by the way, you don't need to check on qualifications
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that often.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
You know, you know, if you know it was all
after COVID, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
The bottom line is, this is the most rapidly growing
part of the budget. It's growing more rapidly than medicare,
more rapidly than Social Security, and it's all because of
the Obamacare expansion. So what we have to do is
we have to say no, no, If you want to
expand that's fine, but you're not getting paid seven times
as much for the federal government as what you're getting
paid for your high risk population, for your needy population.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We'll just pay you at the same rate.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
If we did that, all those states would stop expanding Medicaid.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
And again, a lot of.
Speaker 12 (19:55):
Those people qualify for Obamacare. They can get they can
go on the subsect, but they got to pay a premium.
They got to pay some and of course, if they're
able to work, they should work. We have to get
that because if we don't, the remaining dozen or so
states that have not expanded into that population will expand,
and that will cost about a half a trillion dollars
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over the next ten years.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
It'll wipe out all.
Speaker 12 (20:18):
The projected savings from things like work requirements and throwing
illegals off. It'll wipe out all that, and it'll increase
our budget deficit. We can't do that anymore. The bottom
line is times have changed since last week. We can't
do it, and they're pretending. I mean, look that economic device,
pretending like Moodi's didn't downgrade us last week.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
They did.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Interest rates will go up.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
We don't even know, Steve, what the cost of that
interest rate increase is going to be on our deficit
for the next ten years, but it will be significant
because the market's already responded this morning with bond rates
going up.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, I think the thirties over five and the tens
over four point five. So what's the pushback on you
just laid out sounds perfectly logical. It takes care of MAGA.
You've got to work. It's only eighty hours as a minimum.
You can't have this kind of essentially money laundering the
seven times more. I don't understand. Then, what's the pushback
from your other House member, from the Speaker and other
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House members, forget the White House, just inside the House
Republican Caucus. How could this not be fairly self evident, sir?
Speaker 12 (21:20):
Because they're a handful of moderates who claim that they
will be defeated in the next election if they if
somehow we gut medicaid. We're not gutting medicaid. We're preserving
it for the truly needy. The bottom line is we
have to get to that next election. I will tell
you after that Mood's downgrade, there is a chance that
this spirals out of control in the next eighteen months.
(21:41):
It definitely will spile out of control the next three years.
We have to do something. Look, if you came to
Washington to get re elected, go back come because that's
not what this country needs. This country needs a group
of men and women who came to save the country.
And that means occasionally you have to take a really
tough vote and then convince your constitution of why you
did it. This one is crystal clear. They should be
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able to go back home and convince people why they
did it to save our country.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Is this the central issue that we're dealing with now?
Are there other issues that rise to this level? Or
if not, what are the other two or three secondary issues?
Speaker 12 (22:19):
There are a couple of other issues, but this is
the big one again because you know, this is the
largest growing program in the federal government, so this is
a big one. Obviously, we have dealt with the food
stamp issue that was the second largest growing program in
the federal government.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And again we.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
Should be looking to return to pre COVID spending levels
wherever we can. So dose got a good start the
administration by cutting a lot of the grants, the grants
to non governmental organizations or ngngos. That's a good start,
but we have a long way to go. The most
important thing we have to do with this bill is
to make sure it doesn't increase our deficit in the
next five years, and.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Steve, that's the game here.
Speaker 12 (22:57):
You know, the deficit goes up in the first five
years and then goes down, quote goes down in the
second five years. We'll never get to the second five
years because if we have the fiscal problem, the fiscal
collapse what I call and interest rates go to seven, eight, nine,
ten eleven percent as they did in the eighties.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
This whole house of cards falls down.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Is anybody working like is Treasury or OMB or Hassett
at NEC National Economica. Has anybody put out a set
of math that you guys can sit there and you
can actually show them. Hey, the deficit goes up in
the first couple of years, like the Wall Street Journal
saying today, So we can't do that because we'll never
get to the back end. We'll never get to where
the structural cuts are. Is anybody sat in a room
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with people and say that's just not logical, and let's
figure out how we don't do that.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Steve, The amazing thing is everybody knows that's true.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
This is the old Washington game. We're going to look
at a ten year budget window. We're going to do
all the spending up front, We're going to do the
savings at the tail end, and we never get to.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
The tail end.
Speaker 12 (23:58):
The bottom line is this is the way the swamp
has worked. Look, this is my fifteenth year. I can't
believe that this happens time and time again. This is
just the latest iteration. But we can't now, we can't
afford to make this mistake again. We literally can't afford.
This is existential again. If the bond markets fail, the
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spiral will be out of control. I hope President Trump
doesn't want that to occur under his watch. I'm sure
he doesn't. The best way to avoid it is to
solve this medicaid issue in this bill.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
What and you're confident in solving this, you're not a
viscerating MAGA the twenty five percent of MAGA that's on
medicate sir.
Speaker 12 (24:43):
Well, Look, if somebody is not working, they should be working.
It's the bottom line. That's a message we should send. Otherwise,
let's just become Democrats and give everybody money, you know,
not to work and to go on welfare. With regards
to the rest of it, it's now going to be
a state. So all we're doing is we're saying, look, states,
you've got to pay your fair share for that expansion population.
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It's a state decision to get them off of that.
And that's what we have to talk about. We have
to talk about this is unfair. You know, if a
state wants to do it, your argument is not with
the federal government.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
It's not with your federal representative.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
It's actually with your state representatives who don't want to
flip the bill for their citizens.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I know you get a bounce, but you're saying right now,
the way you see it, you don't see you get
into a vote by Wednesday. Sir.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Oh, they may bring it up for a vote by Wednesday,
but they better be prepared to lose, because there is
no way this passes on Wednesday without without another major
spending reduction in this package. I mean, I just know
where the votes are, I know who the people are.
They are a group of people like me who didn't
come to Washington to get re elected. We came to
Washington to save the country. And again, look, the President
(25:53):
is likely to call me. I'm just going to tell
the President, look, miss President, you don't want you don't
want this bill. I'm voting to make sure that we
don't have a fiscal collapse. And that's that's the way
it is. And I hope the President listens to the message.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Where do people follow you on social media? Congressman?
Speaker 7 (26:14):
They go to Rep. Andy Harris, they go to Harris
dot House dot gov.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
We've got we've got a Twitter account and we an
x account and we will be tweeting about this over
the next few days.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We understand, Congressman, thank you for coming on and thank
you for being so blunt. Appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Uh that was no happy talk. That was pretty Uh.
That was pretty blunt, refreshing, refreshingly blunt. Short commercial break'n
dive deep into this budget today. Also a cover up
that makes Watergate look like a Sunday afternoon church picnic.
That's this Biden illegitimate, Biden regime flourishing in their illegitimacy
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after they've been tossed from office.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Next and because it was a four lane highway that
was accessible, my mother drove us and rather than us
be able to walk and guess what the first frost.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know what was happening.
Speaker 13 (27:12):
It had to put on your windshield wipers to get
literally the oils look off the window. That's why I
had so damn any other people I grew up have
cancer and why camp For the longest time, Delaware had
the highest cancer rate.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
In the nation.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Unlikely that someone could get annual checkups and not notice
a PSA elevation over the past, you know, but this
is what I typically would see in a VA hospital
where a patient hasn't had medical attention in ten years,
presents to an emergency room with bone pain and then
(27:46):
they find that it's metastatic prostate cancer. But in the
modern age of medicine, especially the fact that he was
a former president, he had intensive state of the art,
you know care where we can see prostate cancer, you know,
ten years in the past. So this is I mean,
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it's it's very unusual to hear that someone has prostate
cancer where they're annually being followed up.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Okay, we're going to get back to the budget and
budget deficis here in a moment, I want to bring
in Laura Lumer, who joins us by phone. She's traveling. Laura,
correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you put out a
quite controversial tweet. I'm shocked I'm saying this. I'm connecting
Laura Lumer with a controversial tweet. Didn't you put it
(28:37):
a controversial tweet a year or so ago saying that
Biden had an emergency, some medical emergency on Air Force
one and they might divert the plane or something, and
later they denied it. Did you know about this early on? Ma'am. Yes.
Speaker 14 (28:52):
On July fifth, I believe that's the date I tweeted
that Joe Biden was having a medical emergency on Air
Force one. I said, it's happening right now. Biden just
had a medical emergency on Air Force one and press
access has been removed, and the tweet was seen about
forty million times. Elon Musk reacted to it, and I
was demonized in the media. They said I made up
(29:14):
the story, they said it was fake news. And then
days later I said, Biden is very ill. He's in Delaware,
his family is making final preparations for him. He is
in the terminal phase of his illness, and Kamala Harris
might indeed take over the responsibilities for Biden as president.
He might succumb to his terminal illness. And I had
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been told by a source that Biden had entered the
terminal phase of his illness. Terminal means six months to
one year left to live. Of course, there's always outliers.
But that was last July, and so we are now
at the end of May, almost and you know, a
lot of people are wondering whether or not Joe Biden
is going to be dead within the next thirty sixty
to ninety days, and that would of course follow the
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timeline of my exclusive reporting last year in July. And
now you see Jay Capper and all these people in
the left wing media who said that I was spreading
conspiracies come out with really the same exact information. So
massive cover up here, and it looks like now doctors
are finally admitting that Biden appears to have had cancer
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throughout his entire presidency. You had a doctor that went
on MSDNC this morning and said, it's it's very unlikely,
nearly impossible for the president of the United States of America,
who gets multiple checkups per year, to not have a
PSA level detected for the cancer to spread to his bones.
And now you see all these gaps in the media
(30:40):
that they said, oh, you know, there was a gaf.
It was a gaf. He's just you know, an old,
forgetful man. You know, Biden flipped up several times and
said he had cancer. He had a colonoscopy, if you recall,
or Kamala Harris briefly assumed the power of the presidency,
and everybody thought it was very bizarre for a routine colonoscopy.
But now we know probably wasn't a routine colonoscopy. It
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probably was a very invasive procedure, and given the fact
that Biden was terminally ill at the time, they probably
wondered if he was going to die on the operating
room table.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You're a warrior in the information war. It's all about narratives.
How wall me through how the her tape? First off,
the herd tape gets released because Capudo says, hey, I'm
the first guy asked for it back in January and
they didn't have it. The landing team of the Beachhead
team couldn't find it. Number one, why is it Axios
(31:38):
putting this out? And it's not the administration, not the
Justice Department of the FBI announcing there's been an investigation
on this thing since the afternoon of January twentieth, twenty
twenty one. And then did the left panic And that's
why they finally said, oh, we got to we got
to bury that by saying he's about to die, and
(32:00):
you get a saying, oh, all the discussion now about
her must be muted or must be taken down a
couple of notches. Ma'am, Well, I.
Speaker 14 (32:08):
Think that there's a pervasive rot that still exists within
the DOJ. I think it's really suspicious. And then look,
I like Mark Caputo as a person, but I do
think it's a little bizarre that under the current Trump administration,
a leftist publication was able to get the you know,
exclusive access to this tape that even conservative conservative organizations,
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watchdog organizations filed Boyer requests to receive and never once received.
So again, it's like this this typical trend that we
oftentimes see within the Trump administration. And I'm not blaming
President Trump for this, but oftentimes some of his staff
or some of his officials will reward fake news entities. Right,
It's not like Axios was really ahead of the curve
(32:51):
on this. They're now trying to take credit and Alex
Thompson is peddling his book with Jay Capper. But if
you recall all of these outlets, demon ice can serve
arvatives were even daring to question whether or not Joe
Biden had a mental deficiency or some kind of illness.
They said it was deep fakes. They said that the
images that we were posting were artificial intelligence deep fakes.
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And so I would question the intentions of the DOJ.
It's no surprise that I don't think that Pam Blondie
is doing a good job. I think that it speaks volumes.
As I said before, the Axios was able to get
the exclusive audio tapes that allows the left wing media
to control the narrative on this, even though they completely
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demonized Donald Trump, demonized all of his supporters for years.
I mean, look, we've been calling out Joe Biden for
almost six years now. This isn't just something new. If
you recall, even Barack Hussein Obama said never underestimate Joe
Biden's ability to f things up. That's a direct Obama quote,
and he was saying that because Joe Biden had so
many gaffs, and we now know these were not gaffs.
(33:58):
He has had an illness for probably you know, ten
to twelve years now that has been cumulative over time,
and now he's in the terminal, terminal stage of his illness,
as I reported a year ago. So I don't think
people should be applauding Axios. I don't think people should
be applauding Jake Capper. I don't think people should be
(34:20):
applauding or rewarding Alex Thompson with book sales either. I
think that there.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Needs a mask condensay, so David Axelrod. David Axelrod says,
because of the expose of the cancer. I mean, they
treat us like idiots, so they reveal the cancer on Sunday.
After this thing blows up on Saturday, Friday night and Saturday,
What then is to be done? What is your recommendation
to DOJ. What's your recommendation to the House. What's your
recommendation investigative reporters? What should be done here? Given you
(34:48):
may not have Biden around in six seven, eight months, ma'am.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
Well, as I reported last year, I said that it
was my belief that doctor Kevin O'Connor, who was the
White House position, was fabricating Biden's medical records. I think
that now appears to be correct, and I would immediately
encourage the DOJ to investigate doctor Kevin O'Connor. I think
that his medical license should be revoked. I think that
(35:16):
they should subpoena him and ask him why he appears
to have fabricated I mean, that's what it looks like.
It looks like Kevin O'Connor fabricated Joe Biden's medical records.
You see the report that he released in a letter
from Physician to the President at the White House on
official letter letterhead on February sixteenth of twenty twenty three,
(35:36):
in which he said that I quote conducted a comprehensive
review of President Biden's medical history and a detailed physical
examination in which he said that he had perfect health.
So you know, there definitely needs to be an investigation
into all of the physicians who paid Joe Biden visits.
And that's not just doctor Kevin O'Connor. That would also
(35:59):
include doctor Kevin Cannard, who is the Parkinson's disease specialist
who met with Joe Biden and doctor Kevin O'Connor at
the White House on January seventeenth, twenty twenty four. I
think that all of his staff need to be subpoena
and there needs to be an investigation in charges brought
against doctor Jill, the fake doctor who has committed elder abuse.
(36:19):
And we also need to investigate the legitimacy of all
of the pardons, as Ed Martin said, because well, if
Joe Biden had cancer and he was terminally ill, that
means that these autopen pardons are completely illegitimate. So that
would be my recommendation. I don't think that these physicians
should be allowed to practice medicine anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And you think this should come from the This should
come from DOJ and fbid that a formal investigations. They
should subpoena these records today. I think maybe even Seese
whatever over at Walter Reed, that this should begin immediately
and this should be a formal inquiry.
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Absolutely. I mean, this is the biggest This, in my opinion,
is the biggest political scandal to ever come out of
the White House for any president in US history. I mean,
we're talking about potentially an illegitimate occupants of the White House,
a man who stole the election. And not only did
he steal the election, but it appears that his wife
(37:18):
and all of the White House staffs, and all of
the White House aides, and the White House physicians and
medical staff at Walter Reed, engaged in a criminal cover
up of fabricating medical records to hide the fact that
Joe Biden had cancer and other issues as well cognitive
issues for the entirety of his presidency. I mean, you
(37:38):
have the admission from him on video that you played
at the top of the show saying that he had
cancer in twenty twenty two. And now you also have
physicians on MSDNC and CNN coming out this morning saying
that it's impossible. It is impossible with Joe Biden's level
of care and the type the type of medical checkups
(38:00):
and tests that he was being subjected to every single year,
multiple times a year as President of the United States.
Illegitimate of course, for them to miss this, for them
to miss this, it just doesn't happen overnight. You don't
get cancer that spreads to your bones overnight. So there
needs to be a criminal investigation, and needs to be
more than just an investigation, because I know I speak
(38:21):
for many in the war room audience, Steve when I say,
we're sick and tired of the blowhards and the GOP
talking about their nonsense investigations. We want people to go
to jail. We don't want to have James Comber talk
about this. So then you know, James Comber can go
write another crappy book about his investigation into Joe Biden.
You know, we've had enough enough books. If you want
(38:42):
to write a book, then drop out of Congress and
go write a book. You know, go join James Comy
and you guys can hang out with your seashells and
write books together on the beach somewhere. I just think
we need to have real investigations and there needs to
actually be some accountability. We need to see people go
to jail. We are months into the Trump administration passed
someone to undred day mark and Pam Blondie has failed
(39:04):
to bring any real charges against anybody.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
Steve.
Speaker 14 (39:07):
It's an abomination. As I reported this weekend, you have
James Comy's daughter and James Comy's son in law still
working at the DOJ. When are these people going to
get fired? Cleaning house means cleaning house. It appears that
we relyed to by people in the FBI and people
in the new DOJ who told us we were going
to have a day one reset.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And we've had the Justice Partner have had these tapes
since the afternoon twenty January twenty twenty one. It's fine
the media got them, but what action. I agree with you, Brennan, Comy, Millie,
all of them. Laura, what's your social media? Where do
people get you? Ma'am?
Speaker 14 (39:43):
You can follow me on x at Laura Lumer and
also at Lumer Unleashed, and you can visit my website
lumored dot com for all types of exclusive reporting you're
not going to see anywhere else. And catch my show
on Rumble every Tuesday and Thursday, nine pm Eastern Rumble
dot com slash Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Laura, thank you for taking time away. Did I know
you're traveling to join us by phone?
Speaker 14 (40:07):
Laura Lumer, thanks for having me appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Laura Lumor is correct, point blank. This is ten x
bigger than Watergate. Ten x. You had an illegitimate president
MC guy. Go back to the railhead. I said from
the beginning, you got to investigate twenty twenty. This is
all of a piece. Ladies and gentlemen. We told you
(40:34):
they were crooks, We told you he was illegitimate. And
now in May of twenty twenty five, they finally released
the tape so you can listen to your with your
own ears. Hear what you hear. Then they dropped the bombshell,
Oh wow, he's got cancer terminol short break, here's your host.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Even that.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Can play the can we pull uh the Kevin Hassett
that let off Andy Andy Harris's congressman Harris's tell me
Denver when you emplay that. Let's go ahead and play it,
because I want to make sure the audience that we're
all understanding what the music and the lyrics are here. Okay,
(41:24):
go ahead and play it. First.
Speaker 12 (41:26):
It's a massive victory.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
To get it out of the Budget Committee into the
Rules Committee. There's really one more step after that to
get it to the floor and to get the big
beautiful bill to the Senate. I think we're highly, highly optimistic,
as in one hundred percent we're going to get that
bill of the Senate. One hundred percent. We're going to
pass this bill by the middle of the summer. And
the reason is the bill is so well crafted. First,
(41:47):
it's got the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is
stuff that we passed in twenty seventeen, and it all
works exactly the way we said. We got the three
percent growth, we got the six five hundred dollars in
wage growth and so on, and now we're adding new
things like the no tax overtime, no tax on so security.
They're going to make it even better, even even faster
growing and so on, and so the new CEA study
(42:08):
shows that this is a home run of a bill
for the American people. And that's really what I think
the big news of the weekend is that we got
that through what I think is probably the final tough
hurdle of the House, which is the House Budget Comittee,
which is the toughest place to get it, to get
it through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
So you heard and Harris say, hey, they so got it.
And look, let's let's would just notified that President Trump
is now on the phone with Putin. So President Trump
in the three big areas trying to end the kinnetic
part of the Third World War. You get some sort
of Russian rock proschement, so we put we can put Ukraine,
(42:43):
and then this situation in Persia put him to bed
because they need to be put to bed. And so
President Trump's doing that. He's uh. They've got a fantastic
piece in the Federalist today about how this judicial revolt
is actually a udicial coup against the commander in chief.
It's a must read by Margo Cleveland. I've got that
(43:06):
up on Ghetter, you got to read that. On this,
I mean, can you solve the medicaid problem and try
to reverse this expansion in winfel Swoop. I don't know
here's what I do know you can't have. So maybe
that's and that structurally is a big issue. I know that,
and there's a lot of people worked up about it.
(43:27):
And we don't want to cut medicaid to the folks
that need it, right, Like I said, twenty five percent,
I think twenty five percent of MAGA is on medicaid.
You don't want to cut medicaid to those who need it.
But it's got to be very restrictive. You get no.
Two and a half many illegal aliens all got to go.
The able bodied that got to have a minimum work
(43:48):
requirement or volunteer requirement or school requirement, technical training thing.
It's eighty hours a month. Come on, man, that's nothing.
Should be eighty hours a week. Okay, people got to
be out there working or trying to find work. But
this about this expansion, it's going to be a fight.
(44:08):
My issue is just it's to pull back the camera
and just look at Andy Harris's You've got this ten
year They do this ten year budget, and the scams
always the same. The savings all come in the out
years and they never materialize. They just never materialize. So
now we got to increase in spending for the deportations.
(44:30):
What you need the defense, which I don't think you need.
I think it's nice to have. I think we'd like
to have it, but we're in a must have it
situation right now. The bottom line, The Wall Street Journal
has got that article up. Everybody are to read it.
And you know, I'm no fan of the Wall Street Journal,
particularly the editorial page, but I think their numbers are
pretty solid. This is what I've been saying. The deficit
(44:52):
does increase in the first couple of years. I don't
think we're in what the plan was, and the plan
is a good plan. It's not a perfect plan, but
get the deficit from six and a half percent of
GDP down to three and a half percent of GDP. Now,
if there are other revenue streams that people are not
(45:13):
taking situation, like the external revenue service in tariffs, you've
already had a record month in tariffs. Maybe the tariffs
have got a couple hundred billion dollars. I don't know.
That hasn't been formally laid out. I don't think this
is why I keep saying that somebody's got to put
forward a model. HASSE doesn't need to come on and
continue to talk about the politics of it. What we
(45:35):
need to do is have an adults conversation, then debate,
then discussion, then yelling at each other, but around a
set of math that people agree. So everything ought to
be thrown into the kittie. Number one has to just said,
there's no tax on Social Security. I didn't see that.
I see where there's four thousand dollars that you can
put to it, but you're still taxing Social Security. So
(45:55):
I think it's pretty unclear on the on some of
the revenue side, but on the cost side. On the
revenue side, if you've got money coming in from tariffs
and you think it's pretty consistent, let's show it. Right.
If we've got money's coming in from any other ways,
let's show it. Let's get agreed upon growth rate that
at least we can say, okay, that sounds logical. Then
(46:16):
that drives the rest of revenue. Let's show it. Let's
show every aspect of cutting. And I think it's going
to become evident of the defense and other discretionary spending.
I don't know how you don't go after this. You've
got you've got to show that you're bending the arc
on the on the you know, on the deficits from
(46:37):
six and a half down to three and a half
as percentage of GDP. The downgrade, and Scott Besson said,
it's backward looking. Okay, it's backward looking, but it's still
a fact we still have. And because all the great
efforts Scott's best, it's the one taking over from Yellen.
The debts still at what thirty six and a half,
(46:58):
but the moment we passed the debt seat increase, it's
going to go up to thirty seven because of all
the extraordinary measures he's going to do are going to
be lifted and it'll be part of the there will
become part of the debt. Also, just the math if
you do if you have fiscal year twenty five, which
in September thirty because you took Biden's the illegitimate Biden budget, right,
(47:20):
which we did. This is the Speaker, and we're doing
this in fiscal year twenty six. It starts October first.
I don't know, show me the math says that shows
that we don't blow through the four trillion dollars added
to the exuded to the debt stinies, so we're not
a forty trellion dollars by the midterm elections. Just somebody
(47:41):
show me a model that shows us. So when you
looked and said, okay, I see these assumptions. I agree
with that. That that maybe I don't agree with this. Also,
the cuts that doose are supposed to find. I understand
that they're now trying to be codified in some sort
of recisions. Let's see what that number is. Let's get
it all on the table so that we can all
speak from it, and so the president can see this.
(48:04):
I'm not sure he's shown all the numbers. I just
don't know. Maybe, so Russ ought to come out and
Hassen and Scott and they ought to work together. We
ought to get a set of numbers. Then and then
with the Endy and these guys say, hey, look, maybe
we can't do everything. You're trying to reverse Obamacare. At
least aspects of it. Maybe that's doable, and maybe all
(48:28):
of it's not doable. But that's the discussion we've got
to have this weekend. It can't have some artificial deadline
that's got to happen by Labor Day weekend. It has
to be right because we're going to live with this.
This is going to be a permanent part of President
Trump's legacy. I told you June fifteenth, the ten anniversary
of coming down the escalator. That's nothing but a preamble
(48:50):
for what's going to happen in the next one hundred
or so days between Putin and the taxes and the
border and the judges and all of it.
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