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May 19, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MAY 19TH, 2025

WITH ERIC BURLISON, DAVID BOZELL, GRACE CHONG, AND MIKE LINDELL

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
try to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop that. It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Will be saved.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Or here's your host, Stephen.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
K Ban.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Monday nineteen May.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You're of a lord twenty twenty five, I said, I
looking to my trusty colleague. The ten year treasuries is
still above four point five. Anyway, the treasuries popped a
little bit over the uh uh over the uh over
the weekend, the thirty one above five.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I don't think the market's totally absorbed what the downgrade is.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Scott Best was on TV said it's backward looking, Okay,
I'd buy that. It's a it's looking backwards, but it's
a forward looking problem because now they got excuses to
hide behind. And he noticed they didn't do this under Biden,
which is a joke the way Yellen ran the thing,

(01:35):
and Yellen, remember, financed all this We talked about all
the time short term because they couldn't go out. They
couldn't go out in tens and thirties because it would
it would have blown up on them and caused even
more inflation than the artist caused by their spending. But
the spending is caused by the inflation is caused by spending,
this massive federal spending. So we have to get we

(01:58):
have to get arms around it. I've said time and
time again, the bond market's going to get a vote.
Well guess what. On Friday, they got the air cover
to have a vote, and they're going to have a vote.
We need to take action when we can take action.
That's what President Trump's trying to do with this overhaul,
massive comprehensive, comprehensive bill, which I still think is a possibility.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
They may split this thing in two. The Senate might
to try to do the.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
The border security, which is one hundred and seventy billion
dollars that they want.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I think it's ninety billion in the.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
House, so the conference will work that out, but as
an unfathomable amount of money right to do the deportations,
plus another one hundred and fifty billion I think top
up in defense spending. That's why the deficits are higher
in the first years. And can you trust the political class?

(02:57):
Can you trust the people on Capitol Hill have been
able to trust them so far? I don't think President
Trump should trust them in particularly can the American people
trust these folks because all they want to do is
spend and spend and spend. And the Republicans haven't been
a break upon that. They've kind of get tapped along.
They've had some things on the margins, but it's just
been on the margins. Here they're talking about they're gonna

(03:21):
have this throwdown. The term you're gonna hear is f MAP,
basically trying to stop Obamacare expansion. And that's the big
thing they're talking about that could be significant another I
guess a couple of hundred billion dollars over the program
in cutting spending and particularly in the first years. But
here's what they presented. Here's what the House presented last

(03:41):
week before people were able to kick up dust. And
I'm one of the proponents of not cutting medicaid to
the bone because you've got a ton of working class
people on medicaid now because the jobs have been shipped
overseas and they don't have insurance. But when you know
you got two and a half may plus illegal aliens

(04:02):
on it, no illegal alien in this country should be
a medicate full stop. And that you got the able
bodied that are not even doing basic checks because of
what a Biden put in and that wasn't going to
start to twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's just not right.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's the problem in the details of all these programs
that got all this and there's so much in this
bill and in the tax side that if you don't
have a team of experts that can analyze it for you,
they're going to steamroll you. You the average citizen who
are in good faith that is sitting there going well,
I voted on a guy that you know his campaign
poster said limited government. His campaign poster said limited government.

(04:40):
If his campaign poster said limited government, where is he
on the at least the initial Doge cuts and not
just programmatically because remember I said, hey, other people were
coming this, I don't really count that. But on the fraud,
my understanding there's a couple hundred billion dollars kind of
floating around of potential DOGE cuts because if you look

(05:02):
at the math every month because they post it, we
are spending more. The first six months in the fiscal
year was over a trillion dollars. That's just the math
that's reported. But my understanding is that the recisions packages,
because you got two ways to do this. Either do
impoundments when the president can just do and that's going

(05:22):
to be challenged in the courts, So you can do
recisions where you go up be just need a majority vote,
which we should have in both houses.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
In my understanding is that russ has not put forward the.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Recisions packages because given everything in the Reconciliation Bill, they
don't know if there's attention or what of these things
could pass or even get people's attention. I also understand
that there's already certain other recisions packages dealing with some
of the DOGE with DOGE found in the cuts that

(05:56):
people on Capitol Hill said, no, we don't want to
do that.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's not acceptable.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I don't know what they're going to do with that,
but they're going to come up some solution of that too.
My point is that none of them want to face
the music of having a cut federal spending just to
go back to the pre COVID and COVID medicates what
did Andy Harris say. Nobody wants to face the fact

(06:23):
that we've had explosive growth and that that's including in defense. Well,
President Trump is on the phone right now with Putin
even as we speak, to try to at least initially
not an overall deal, but to talk about, you know,
a stand down in Ukraine. And this is why the
Russian rough Pershma is so important to somehow begin to

(06:46):
put a wedge in between them and the Chinese counters Party.
You saw it the Moscow celebrations of the victory in
Europe day, their version of it eighty years later. And
now we're hearing all kind of reports that the Chinese
Commist Party has been given the weapons systems in Pakistan.
There's huge reports out that the that the they're they're

(07:08):
coosing up to the Egyptian military. You think Egypt, you
think Issie is kind of surrounded Turkey to the North
Egypt on one side, Persia on the other.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
So President Trump's trying to deal with the kinetic part
of the Third World War and trying to bring some
semblance in the arc of instability all the way from
the Ukraine, all the way down to the North Arabian
and Red Sea and everything in betwixt, which is like
a tinder box just waiting to go up.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Those folks all cheek by jail. They got a lot
of vendettas.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
And in Kashmir, in Afghanistan, in Persia, Turkey, Syria, uh
the Southern tip Arabia, the Uti Land and Yemen, they
all got they all got a they all got an issue.
The Black Hand of the Chinese Commists parties everywhere to

(08:04):
be disruptive, including that's why we're following the Real Reset
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Why the Black Hand of the Chinese Commists parties in
back of Moses? Why is this because they're the existential

(08:25):
threat to the United States.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
And oh, by the way.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Daerty engage in war against us. Remember Chinese philosophical and
military doctrine by Sun Zoo and all their other philosophers,
if you have to go kinetic. The moment you go kinetic,
they think we've kind of lost. Not that they intend
to lose in the kinetic, but they said we kind
of lost because you know, feign devils like fighting.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Kinetic work is not they're not.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
They're not strategic enough and savvy enough and cunning enough
to defeat their enemies beforehand. And that's what we the
Imperial power and Imperial House of China does, So President
Trump's trying to do that. Cleveland's got a great report
in over the Federalist about she actually breaks it down

(09:19):
on the judicial insurrection. We've had Mike Davis and Julie Kelly,
everybody on here talking about it since President Trump took
over in January. You've got a insurrection from the judiciary
and that's the only raised the sawing him down right now.
But that's a real thing and that's going to have
to be brought to a head. This is why in

(09:40):
the show we got DC Draina on here and we
put that great tweet up and said, hey, let's get
down because I said, this is an avenue that is
going to be a forcing function, and that is suspending
the writ of habeas corpus. Why because you can tell
right now they're trying to step in between him and
being commander in chief of the armed forces.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Take a deep breath. This has happened before. In the
Civil War.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
In the beginning early days of the Civil War, the
Chief Justice got Tanny, who had given us the dread
Scott decision right, kind of a triggering event. He tried
to step in between Lincoln and in his powers or
as he ensued described in the Inherent Powers of the

(10:30):
Executive Branch Article two, particularly his commander in chief, to
suspend habeas corpus and to kind of run the war
as a warlord, which he did. Got worse over time
as the fighting got worse and Union losses mounted, but
he didn't back off, never backed off. So that's the
whole judicial Right now, You've got the big enchilada, which

(10:52):
is the spending and how you're going to finance it.
And they did get a reprieve last night, but doesn't
mean that's going to go. It doesn't mean the deficit
hawks and the deficit hawks are not wrong here, it's
just what can you get done? What can you get
done to kind of bend this hark. And this is
my point. If there are other things out there, now's
the time to let's hear. If there are revenue Look,

(11:15):
we just had the biggest tariff month in history. If
there is something that's gonna be kicked in from the
external revenue service and it's meaningful, and by meaningful in
this regard, I mean every penny, because we ought to
be scraping. You ought to be into the sofas and
getting the nickels and the dimes. This ought to be

(11:36):
all hands on deck. So if we have coming in
from that, it ought to be a number we got
to put out and say this is a number that
we can live with. This is a number we debated.
You know, oh that's too high, that's suited. Okay, we
grip on this number. Go back into the dose situation
and these recisions. I'd like to see what these recisions are.
I just don't think it's some magical formula. Let's get

(11:59):
it out there. Let's refute. Let's take the Wall Street
Journal's article and let's refute it. They're saying, right now,
the deficit increases by three trellion dollars. Let's let's refute
that line by line. I know we've got the information,
let's do it. And then let's and then let's look
at what this medicaid expansion and what's doable on this.

(12:21):
I mean, Harris could not have been more blunt. It's
not going to pass on Wednesday, and that means he's
probably got I don't know ten, twenty thirty or more
of these folks that realize back home people are saying, hey,
you got to get control of this debt, because you
have to get control of the debt. And once we
locked this in, it's locked in, just like the tax

(12:41):
cut in twenty seventeen locked in and did such a
magnificent job by the time twenty nineteen came around. It
shouldn't be lost on people that the tax cut as
because it was so demonized by the left, was not
properly sold or not sold to off that in the
midterm elections, we lost forty two seats, and I realized

(13:03):
a lot of that was because of you know, Russia
Gate and all the hate that Pelosians people put on,
but all the benefits that pop the next year, just
like Reagan's plan had to be explained to people. I'm
not sure it was the next year, by nineteen people
were feeling good about it.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I tell you how good they were feeling.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
The Chinese Cameras Party ripped up in May of that year,
ripped up and spit in our face, and the Lightheier.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Deal said, we're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
We would be we did this deal, we would always
be under the boot of the foreign devil. And what
happened in August September that year, I don't know, at
the military games in Wuhan, I don't know. People started
getting sick. Yeah, that Wuhan. Yeah, that lab which I
haven't seen any official investigation on that either. If you

(13:55):
look all these aspects, and this one's going to be
a big struggle, but we'll get through it. But every
piece of information has got to be put on the
table so the American people can see it and understand
what they're voting for, because they're essentially voting here with
their representatives, and guys are going to go men, and
when we're gonna have to go back home and defend
this for the reelection in the primaries and re election

(14:18):
in the general. So let's get it on the table now,
and let's get something that right now. You get the
Senate say just out of hand, Oh it's you Johnson'
saying I need eight tin dollarsand cuts other guys saying
you're cutting too much.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
This is all doable, particularly if we get all the
math out there.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
If we get all the math out there, it's much
easier to package this than.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
To sell it right now. Just my feeling is that
there's a lot of moving in the dark.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
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Speaker 6 (15:00):
Figured this out that they can force the federal government
to spend nine dollars for every one dollar that it spends,
and they're using it to launder money. And this is
the way they do it. And it costs no money
to California because they raise taxes on managed care companies,
the companies that are providing Medicaid. So they go to

(15:20):
these companies and say, we're going to tax you, but
don't worry, we're going to give you all of the
money that we just taxed you right back. But in
the meantime, we're going to take that money and we're
going to pull down federal dollars and that'll let us
have more money so that we can spend it on
expanding the population for Medicaid and spend it on illegal immigrants.
In fact, this scheme has allowed California to spend nearly

(15:43):
four billion dollars to put illegal immigrants to put to
put on to pay for illegal immigrants to have medicaid.
Four billion dollars. This is crazy. And this total scheme
is spending more money in federal dollars in California that
we send in federal dollars then the entire state of

(16:06):
Florida spins in one year in their entire annual budget.
So this is absurd. This has to be corrected. California
is stealing federal dollars and they're they're rubbing our noses
in it by paying for legal immigrants and encouraging them
to come over to you.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
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(16:46):
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Speaker 1 (17:00):
Currency, what will curl your hair?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
As it was meant to Congressman Berlson, take a second,
just hit a quick recap. You basically accusing the state
of California and kind of a money laundering operation taking
I don't know, under false pretenses federal money and funneling
into illegal aliens.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is that the way I read that, sir.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
That's exactly right, Steve. They taxed, they went to these
managed care organizations, and then they're in the state law
in California that they created this scheme where they say
we will tax you, but we will return every dime
that we've taxed you to the insurance companies that are
managing Medicaid, and then they take then they go to
the federal government and say, hey, look we just spent

(17:45):
that money we paid these insurance companies. This amount of
money in this case last year is sixteen point seven
billion dollars. And so, but that money never went out
of California's you know them, They weren't down sixteen point
seven billion. They just told the federal government that they
spent sixteen point seven billion, and then that allowed them

(18:07):
to draw down nine and a half billion dollars, with
which they spent four billion dollars to fund Medicaid for
illegal immigrants and another almost five and a half billion
to expand state programs on welfare.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
So, is a solution?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Is this part of your effort to get is the
two and a half million illegal aliens now in medicaid?
Is this part of the effort of folks in the
House to say this in the in this Reconciliation bill,
the big beautiful bill, we got to broom all the
illegal aliens off the medicaid rolls, sir.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
Yeah, absolutely, And we do that, I think in this bill,
which is fantastic. However, the thing that we're not doing
is closing this money laundering show game, because instead of
sending the four billion dollars to illegals, they're just going
to funnel that four billion dollars over to expand more
welfare programs for individuals in California. At the end of

(19:03):
the day, all the expense of you and I, this
is all federal money that we're sending to California. And
it's more than the entire state of Florida's entire annual budget.
That's how much money the federal government is sending to
California for this money scheme.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So are you proposed is there language you proposed to
go in there to shut this down or has that
already been thrown out?

Speaker 7 (19:25):
It has been thrown out. We have we're fighting with
some of the moderates. They they're dragging defeats, particularly because
they're from the states that are doing this scan, from California,
from New York, those are a lot of all the
blue big blue states are the ones that are doing
this scan. They're maximizing federal dollars and they're doing it
at the cost of you and I and A while

(19:46):
all these red states, you know states have not expanded
and they're not doing this just level of this taxation scheme.
So state it's like Florida, Texas, my state of Missouri,
they're they're nowhere near doing what these new states are doing,
which is why it just puzzles me why we won't
close this as a loophole and try to at least

(20:08):
phase out this this money laundering scam which includes f MAP,
And so you've heard that term f MAP talked about.
The f MAP is the Federal match for the Medicaid individuals.
For an able bodied individual, somebody who should be working,
we're paying. We're matching ninety cents for every one dollar

(20:29):
that the state spends. When it comes to disabled people,
it's much it's much lower, it's around half. So we
we're paying. We're incentivizing these states to put people that
should be working on Medicaid and keep them on a
welfare system, which is and that entire scheme is what
these other states are using to bankrupt the federal government.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
So Andy Harris is on earlier, he's saying this is
going to be a big fight. He don't know if
this is going to be rectified by Wednesday. Are your constituents,
You're pretty close to your folks out there where they
come down that they want to fight for every penny
and this Obamacare expansion. We understand the able bodied you
can't wait to twenty nine. You gotta they gotta go

(21:10):
register immediately. Can't wait till twenty nine. But the rest
of this about Medicaid expansion, this fight which will be
a lot tougher and maybe longer. Do your constituents have
your back to be part of that, that fight that
if you're going to stop Obamacare expansion, you take that.
You do the fight now, You lance the boil now.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Absolutely, because if we don't do this, it's estimated and
the CBO is getting ready to score this hundreds and
hundreds of billions of dollars that will erase any savings
that we're gonna let this bill pass. It will It's
not a deficit neutral plan in the short term. All
of the savings are as you well mentioned, are in

(21:50):
the back end in the latter years, which is I
think is unacceptable. And we can fix this whole Medicaid
scan and I don't I don't understand why Republicans is
at least you know and come on board and say
you know what, you're right, It does need to be fixed.
Maybe we maybe we do it in later years as well,
but at least we can close this loophole with this

(22:14):
with the f math.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
What is the resistance to try to to try to
do it all now from from the moderates, what what
is their pushback?

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Yeah, and I and I and I sympathize with my
friends from our more purple districts. They don't want to
see dramatic cuts. They don't want to see the systems
buckle with hospitals received the shortfall. But at the end
of the day, it's not sustainable because if we don't
do this, and we haven't been doing it by allowing

(22:44):
this shell game to occur, art we're spending more in Medicaid.
The inflation rate on Medicaid expenses exceeds health inflation, so
which which was mind blowing to me that this and
it's because of this shell game. To me, that's unsustainable.
We are driving up through Medicaid and the show game,
we're driving up the costs for all of health care

(23:07):
for everyone, even privately, because because as you know, when
the state is paying more and the federal government is
paying more, it rises the past for everybody else. So
I think that we have to close this if we're
going to get our handle on health care inflation and
particularly the inflation rates for medicaid.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
So Congressman Burlson, you're full maga. You come from one
that you represent one of the most maga districts in
the country. When the President calls you, calls you on
Tuesday night or Wednesday and says Burlison, I need your
vote here. I understand everything with medicaid, but I want
to get this done. When get to put to bed,
what is your give us a give us, give the

(23:48):
audience a preview. What's your response.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
My response is going to be, mister President, the American
people love you. My district loves you, and they love
your efforts to balance the budget and has been a
campaign pledge that we're going to get on that direction
to balancing the budget. This actually is the Achilles tendon
in this whole plan, and it will jeopardize your legacy

(24:14):
and your ability to be able to bring this back
to physical fiscal solvency.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Do you think House leaderships has a speaker been forthright
with the President what really the issues are and how
it rolls down to the math and how it shows
up in the Wall Street journals analysis have Do you
think they've been forthcoming to the president.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You think the President has all the facts in front
of him.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
I really don't know, because I don't know about those
internal conversations, but I do think that I hope that
the President is able to listen to folks like myself.
And look, we just had the bond rating increase. And
when Moody's raised the bond rating on the United Sty
or lowered the bond rating on the United States, they

(24:59):
in their explanation they recognized the reconciliation bill and the
solutions within it, and still rate that's lowered the bond rating.
And as a result, you're seeing it in the market.
You're seeing, you know, money move away from US debt.
And I think that if we don't, if we don't
turn this around, then we're going to end up in

(25:19):
a debt spyrus. At some point, the dollar will mean nothing,
the money in your bank accounts will mean nothing, your
retirement finds will mean nothing. And I don't want to
be the legislator that oversaw the complete demise of the
US dollars.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Connorson burleson where do people your your explanation of the
money laundering of some of these states was amazing?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Where do people go on social media to follow you? Sir?

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Thanks Steve it's that Rep. Eric Burlison, and I just
really appreciate everything that you do. Appreciate the war room posse,
and keep up the fight, my friend.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, Congressman, great great video. Thank you for having me
coming on between planes. Appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Sir Folks is going to get a little testy over
the next seventy two hours, I can tell you it's
just gonna get testing. So you see kind of the
bid in the ask right here. We'll see if this
thing gets worked out. I would love to have someone
I don't know randomly. I'm gonna throw out some random
omb NYC has it, Treasury, someone with like an official title.

(26:31):
Let's come up with a set of math. Let's refute
the Wall Street Journal. The way to refute it is
look at all sources of cash, tariffs, recisions.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
With DOGE found.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'm just not sure we're presenting the best case that
we have on numbers we know that are out there.
I think that makes for more informed conversation, and the
War and Pose loves informed conversations.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Short break, use your Stephen k Okay, we're here. We've
got a big announcement.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
We're going to bring David Bozell David Media Research Center,
which is one of the foundational building blocks in conservative media.
You were going to take over as president what a
week from tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Is that correct?

Speaker 7 (27:19):
Sir?

Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. Thank you General Van for having
me appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
David, talk to us about MRC. What's your plans.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Your dad is a legend, just just a fantastic guy.
I think he's going to go now being baby was
going to take up the global media platform. Since they're
taking that apart, He's going to be ambassador to South Africa.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Talking about your plans for the future MRC.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, tough assignment for my father.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
The President nominated him, nominated him to be Ambassador of
South Africa. He needed a bulldog in there. My father
is certainly one of those, as we all know, uh
taking over MRC. This would be a lot easier if
MRC was a downtrod in operation, but as you mentioned,
it is a van guard in this space. It's an
institution in the conservative media space, and my father and

(28:06):
his team, I think when they started in nineteen eighty
seven gave this is how I sort of calculate, like,
who's a creative genius in our world.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
They gave us something that we didn't.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Know we had to have, which was the absolute proof
to prove that these guys were not just liberal in
their bias, but they were They engaged in character assassination.
They outright it tried to erase us from history.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
So, you know, my dad in.

Speaker 8 (28:31):
His righteous Catholic raise, you know, the kind of rays
that you need to start a nonprofit solely to prove
that Dan Rather was lying, and he was and Dan
Rather was fired for it.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
But he's going to be moving on.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
To South Africa and mrc IS. They've welcomed me with
open arms. I've grown up around it, as you might imagine.
I've kind of joked with people that have grown up
in Seapac green rooms, you know, since i was a kid.
So I'm excited for the opportunity. We're going to get
a little bit faster, a little bit more real time,
and as the media evolves, we're going to evolve with it.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Media evolving two things.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Number one, the artificial intelligence, but also this scandal, like
over the weekend, you've got the herd tapes, You've got
now this the cancer cover up, You've got your stepping
into it in the beginning of I would argue a
scandal that Dwarf's Watergate, and particularly on the cover up

(29:27):
side of not simply the media, but people in the
Parturian Guard in the deep state. At the same time,
you've got this revolution of artificial intelligence. I don't think
people are fully grasping how powerful this is going to be.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
Your thoughts are, yeah, well, I read the name isscased me.
But I read a column by a futurist were talking
about AI, and he said over the weekend, he said,
every child in America is going to have their own
There's something that will scare people.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Will have their.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
Own personal AI assistant that will have limitless ability to
teach your child anything that the child wants to learn,
with limitless compassion, limitless knowledge base, and limitless time. Now
you can just do the mind races with the positive
and the negative of that statement. But I believe it

(30:14):
to be true. I think I've long asserted that twenty
twenty four what might have been the last election that
was dominated by an authentic candidate that.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think I really do believe, particularly on.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
The Democrat sides, who really lack authenticity across the board,
they're going to be trying to utilize AI to talk
to the American people. And the Media Research Center is
going to be the tip of the spirit and pawing
that out, discovering it, researching it, finding tracking it. We're
going to have real time dashboards, all those types of

(30:52):
things going into the future. So it's an exciting, dangerous,
challenging time for the movement.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
And that we we had.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
This artificial apparatus that is going to be essentially reporting
the news of the moment, and and and who and
have a public and who where do they go?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is it Grock? Is a Gemini? Is it? Is it chat?
Is it another entity? Uh? This weekend story? Is this
exhibit a of this kind of thing? Uh?

Speaker 8 (31:20):
The j Tapper book is the most egregious attempt at
revisionist history that I've seen in quite some time.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Not only did these guys.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
Fail to pursue the story about Joe Biden and and
whether or not he had the cognitive abilities to perform
his duty as a president, but time and again and
the Lord Trump interview is the most famous. But time
and again you and everyone in the conservative media apparatus
who tried to point this out were chastised, demonized, censored

(31:54):
for the better part of the last three to four years.
When we try to call out Joe Biden's cognitive decline
and once again, you know, point for the conspiracy theories.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
We were right and they were wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Is ZEMRAC under your guidance? Are you going to be
the forefront of this investigation because investigation has to happen
if the House doesn't endure it or DJ I mean
the conservative media Axelrod saying no, no, no, you have
to mute everything down. You have to stand downs of
the cancer because of cancer revelations, your thoughts, well, listen.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
To the extent that MRC is a C three can
can be involved in calling for House investigations, whether you
know we can work with FCC, FEC, We're going to
do it. We're going to take that up to the
absolute line every step of the way. This is, like
you said, one of the most ingregious scandals, particularly in
the media's history. They they covered up for this administration.

(32:52):
They turned a blind eye to what they saw time
and time again in their daily routine.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
They knew what was happening, and for them to.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Uh to you know, to give us the hooker with
a heart of gold, routine and say, well, it's all
I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Jake Tapper is one of them. Chuck Hot is another one.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
He is on a media blitz on social media trying
to defend his precious institution called the Legacy Press, and
he can't. He has really no ground to stand on.
So we're gonna be in the tip of the spear
on all these things.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
David, where do people go to get MRC to see everything,
all the changes you're gonna put in, It's already pretty
good anyway, and also your social media where they go
to follow.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
This MRC or is the flagship? Is the mothership website.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
I've got a fresh news design, uh coming out today.
My Twitter handle, my ex handle is David Bozell.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
The MRC is the ex handle for for Media Research
Center and NewsBusters. Those guys are the spine of the
whole ship.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, you guys are great.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Uh, your your father is a legend. And uh and
and you're gonna you're gonna kill it. Anything we can
do to assist you guys, let us know, just fantastic,
Glad glad, the energy and the and the focuses there,
because we're gonna go through some pretty choppy water here
over the next two years, I can tell you, yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
And we get this bill that's coming up, and uh,
it's be dicey. I heard you talking about it before
the break. That'll be a dicey proposition. I hope something
gets through. These guys have promised the American people time
and again that they're going to cut the size of government.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Now is the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now, that's the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
David Bozelle, thank you very much, Congratulations, god.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Speed, Thanks Steve, appreciate it. M R See, Grace and mo.
Let's make sure we push all of that if you have.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
If it's not on one of your it's not on
your daily diet of where you go for your media
every day, you ought to check it. That's fantastic, great videos,
great reporting, fantastic crew. David Bozell taking over as president
a week from tomorrow. I guess they're gonna give Memorial
Day off. We'll have more about our Memorial Day. We're
gonna do our Memorial Day special with Patrick k O'Donnell

(35:00):
as we always do.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
It'll be I think on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Mind, we've got to figure out Probably Saturday, we'll figure
all this out.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
In the next couple of days. Let me go back to.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
This situation with the bill and also with the Biden situation.
If you look at the three big verticals, president Trump
has the ending the kinetic part of the Third World War.
And I don't think we've seen you on social media
that the call is is over or at least i'll
see it here at the command post with Putin. If
you look at then the judicial insurrection, which I believe

(35:38):
has to be dealt with before the Supreme Court leaves
at the end of June for their summer break, and
that is the one that they're trying to chop block
President Trump. The one in the middle, which is getting
the the economy, you know, the tax cuts, the economy,
the supply side, tax cuts, the spending, all of it
done with a financing plan on top of that.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
How we're going to finance this mess, because that's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
These are all going to be the lasting legacy of
President Trump.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And hey, I mean, the guy's got a call he's
going off to that have whip votes this week. I
mean the dependent of President Trump and the White House
to do everything where he's got I think kind of
his hands full. Coming back from a historic, you know,
trip to the Middle East that you're not even able
to take a day to absorb because there's so much
other stuff coming on. But it gets back to the
Biden situation, and this is that other that other angle

(36:28):
of attack is that the administrative state and the deep
state and the administrative state part of it attacked by DOGE.
Although we haven't gotten the cuts yet, some of that's
in this budget and the reconciliation others is going to
come from recision.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
We need to see that.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Because the administrative state, I think one hundred and twenty
two thousand employees have gone, but that's of two and
a half to almost three million I think civilians, So
more of that has to come. Although if you cut
every employe out I think now I don't think it
concludes contracts. The employees will be three hundred and twenty
two about three hund twenty five billion dollars. I think

(37:08):
if we added contractors on top of that, you might
get north of four and maybe even half a trillion.
So you're not going to solve all your problems you
got rid of everybody might solve other problems, but you're
not going to solve You're not going to solve the
cost problem, the cost of what we got to get
our hands around. And right now, I just don't think
all the numbers are out there in President Trump, like

(37:32):
Andy Harris said, he said, hey, there's enough votes now.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Not to pass it.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So in passing it, and this is what Johnson has
to keep in mind, it has to be done right
because this, just like in seventeen that that cut led
to the very successful A nineteen economy that was only
thwarted by the pandemic, by the Wuhan lab, by the

(37:57):
Chinese commiest party releasing it. Oh, by the way, I
don't don't know if we've seen a formal inquiry to that.
To my point, the deep state, the administrator is part state.
Part is working progress. That's not going to happen overnight.
It's work in progress. But the deep state part, I'm
not sure is underway at all. What we do know
is that we've had John Ratcliffe and CA tell people

(38:18):
there they're not going to let politicals get rid of
there's a thousand going to burn off over time, but
they're not going to get rid of any any.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Of the people over the CIA.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
It looks like Tulca Gabbert's trying. She fired the people
that leaked the national intelligence estimate that said we don't
the Venezuelans didn't invade the country. They leaked that to
try to chop block President Trump in the courts. She
got rid of them. John Brennan had a meltdown, but
we haven't seen and dan in Cash one of Maria,

(38:52):
I think for seven minutes yesterday and gave an interview.
I think they had a lot of good information there
and things that are going on. They're saying, you're going
to see come to I believe they also addressed that
they're going to get essentially everybody out of the headquarters
in Washington's they see that horrible building, They're going to
get them out and.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Move on.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
But right now, this week is going to be a
monumental week for President Trump and the MAGA movement, and
that is to try to get the big beautiful bill,
the Reconciliation Bill, moved through so it can be voted
on and passed on to the Senate. That'll be a
monument thing, but that is going to be a foundational
element in going forward with President Trump's legacy, the direction

(39:35):
of the country. This is why I say that on
June fifteenth is the ten year anniversary of coming down
the Golden escalator.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
In Trump Tower. That kind of kicked this thing off.
That ten years.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Everything up to date is kind of a preamble for
the convergence of these crises in the way President Trump
works through these crises and sets this constitutional republic back
on a stable foundation, both constitutionally uh national security wise.
Also with setting right this constitutional crisis between judicial supremacy,

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