May 21, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, MAY 21ST, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Okay, welcome back. We're gonna go Geneva. Nor been lyned
so nor I'm totally confused. Now through your hard efforts
in work, not only did we stop American involvement, I
think in this World Health Organization, the Treaty, the Pandemic Treaty.
In addition, President Trump made a priority that aren't we
pulling out of the World Health Organization? Does this still
(00:37):
have its grip on the United States of America. I
thought we were out, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Great to be with you, Steve, and to be with
the posse and reporting on the wh Show here in Geneva.
There are quite a few things happening, but definitely President
Trump's moves to exit the wh Show is really front
and center here this week. But it's a one year
long cross So on day one of President Trump's in
your administration, he signed an executive order to kickstart the
(01:06):
process of leaving of exiting the WHOW.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That's going to take a year, so.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That will only be in effect in January twenty twenty six.
That being said, the membership fees, the annual membership fees
for twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, supposedly are
still you, but President Trump's administration is refusing to pay that,
leading to the WHHOW members here this week, including Ted
(01:36):
Ross Gaberysis, the Director General, to be shedding quite a
few tiers about the slash in budgeting because that represents
about two hundred and sixty million US dollars that won't
be included in the WHO coffers this year. So you've
had quite a few discussions about that. There was as
(01:58):
well as side panel today talking about the fallout and
the slash of budgeting due to the US pulling out
of the WH show.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So hang on, hang out. So reality is set in
that we're out and our money's out, and in fact
Trump's saying twenty four and twenty five, y're in getting
it either. So Ted Rose and this bunch of Chinese companies, party,
corrupt bureaucrats and administrative state that remember, Geneva is the
engine room of the United Nations. The UN in New
York is just performative. That's where they go for the
(02:30):
TV cameras and the Security Council. But the engine room
where it all works is in Geneva. So reality set in.
They know the United States is out and now you're
having the gnashing of teeth and the ringing of hands, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Especially, another very strong signal that the Chunk administration sent
this year's Health Assembly is that no US delegates are
presidentists here.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So, just to give a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Context how it works, So the World Colorization every year
for their annual meeting, which is called the World Health Assembly,
and the WHO is comprised of one hundred and ninety
four member states, and each member states sends their delegates
each year for this week long health so called health Fest,
(03:17):
and the US did not send any delegates this year.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, so Michelle Bogwin Warren and I think you warned too.
Even though we're in the process of pulling out, we're
six months aways starting January twenty sixth, we already notified them.
Can they still pass all this madness and kind of
encircle the United States? So if you want to travel,
if you want to take a job overseas, if you
want to do anything that they've got their tentacles around
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the throat of American citizens, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So that's a really great question because it brings me
back to what I've been covering on the WHO with
U Steve also on the show previous years. But what
we need to understand is that they've been working hard
on two instruments, two kind of conventions or treaties or laws.
The first track is the International Health Regulation amendments to
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which the United States is a part of, and one
thing that the administration absolutely needs to do before July
nineteenth is actually to reject the amendments to the International
Health Regulations which were adopted last year at the last
World Health Assembly in twenty twenty four here in Geneva.
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And obviously it is of my opinion that the US
should actually just annul the International Health Regulations or their
ratification of the International Health Regulations altogether.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So that's the first track.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The second track is this so called Pandemic Treaty, the
Pandemic Agreement that we've been hearing about at nauseam for
the past, you know, four years, ever since Boris Johnson
and a slew of other world leaders in March twenty
one published that letter calling for all the different governments
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and the whhow with the leadership of the WHOW to
draft this Pandemic Agreement. So they've been working on this
for over three years now. The first Working Group that
was set up. Their first session took place early twenty
twenty two. And the reason why I wanted to show
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this cliff of all these delegates applauding in the main
hall of the United Nations European headquarters here in Geneva,
is because it is so emblematic of the fakeness and
performative nature of all of these entities and organizations and
the people that form them.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Because they are.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Trying to pretend that this is a huge victory, they're
calling this a win for multilateralism, when in fact it
is anything but it is a complete damagetual operation and
pr medication disaster and medication campaign that they've put on
here this entire week in Geneva. Because the truth is
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that this pandemic Agreement hasn't been actually signed. It's been
so called adopted, but the main, the main, the meat
of the bone of this agreement hasn't been agreed upon.
There hasn't been consensus.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And they actually moved that part of the agreement, which
is the TABS system, the pathogen access and benefit sharing system,
They've moved it to an annex and they're going to
They're going to continue negotiating on the PAB system at
least until the next w h A.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And so in effect, this was pure a pure like show.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That they put on for us, because otherwise they would
have been left with egg on their face because they've
been working this for so long. Last year already they
delayed the adoption of a sagreements saying they couldn't reach consensus.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's all there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's obvious they're going to try to brazen this out
and get some weak Republicans the cave on this and
get Trump to reverse it, or try to get Trump
to reverse although this is what we voted for, and
then try to turn it around in if they steal
it in twenty eight how many more days does this last, ma'am?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So this year's WHA is from May nineteenth to May
twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So I believe next Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, we want to get you back on. We'll go
to more depth about all this tomorrow. Where do people
go to get your content?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Or well?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
With regards to the wh I urge people to vote
to the website We've hurtothers dot com. I also reported
a podcast with James Rouguski yesterday breaking down everything you
need to know about these latest developments, because it's confusing
and convoluted on purpose, and it's very important to actually
read the documents, but obviously put you to sleep with
(08:01):
all of their wording and nomenclature, but what comes out
is actually very deceiving.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So where do they get Where do they get the podcast?
You wander dusk, You're fantastic? Where do they go get
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I have a channel on Rumble and Morban Laden, but
everything on the whhow is on Wehardothers dot com. You'll
find all the links, all the different press releases of
the WH Show, the official documents. We've made a really
good up of different information than you need to know.
It's basically everything you need to know about the WH
(08:37):
Show and with reverts to the Pandemic Agreement in essence,
this pandemic industry that they've created out of thin air
in order to push more quote pandemic related products and
push more poison onto.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
The the You're the key people.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You're one of the key people. You're one of the
key people to get us out of this mess. And
so I know you're going to be one of the
key people at the forefront of this to shut this
whole mess down. Nor bind Line will work to try
to get you back up tomorrow when we go back
even more in depth on this. Thank you, ma'am. Great work,
Thank you very much. A warrior none talking about a
warrior about Andy Harris just announced you pull that over.
(09:17):
Andy Harris just announced that. Is this even in a
camera shot? Mister producer, Okay, Andy Harris, I'm a direct
where we do this. Andy Harris just announced, Hey, they
may progress. They're back on. Maybe last night was not
as terrible, but he's saying it's ten days before he
thinks this thing gets sorted out. So we'll give updates
to go. Max teg Mark The Future of Life, one
(09:41):
of the leading lights in artificial intelligence and particularly the
dangers of artificial intelligence and what we have to do
to keep our humanity. Brother, thank you so much for
joining us today in the studio. You're at Catholic University
on a panel this afternoon. We're gonna we're gonna live
stream this at one thirty. Is that one that's going
to take place?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yes, Yeah, I'm really excited about this actually because I've
said for a long time we really need some moral
leadership on AI. We can't let these big decisions about
humanity's future being done by some tech bros in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So I said, yes, sir. In the Financial Times they
had this article about the populace versus the brologarchs, and
I said that in Washington, DC, you need five times
more regulations to open a nail salon or a hair
braiding salon than the top four guys right now, Altman
Musk all of them, the top four have in all
(10:38):
regulation and artificial intelligence, and in fact, the big beautiful
bill I think has a part of it, and it's
going to be fought, I think extensively to ban any
state from putting in any regulation to slow down the
march towards artificial general intelligence. How does that set with you.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
It's obviously a giant corporate handout boondoggle for the for
these tech lobbyists, but it's it's also quite dangerous because
you know, when the United States was formed, a core
part of the agreement with the states was that they
were going to have the right to make their own
(11:16):
laws about things that really affected them. So to now
come and say to these same states that, hey, you
know that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Forget so you're a states right sky when it comes
to artificial By the way, Alon Musk is one of
your biggest supporters the back of the book and when
I first picked it up years ago. This is a
compelling guy of the challenges and choices in our quest
for a great future of life, intelligence and consciousness on
Earth and beyond. He's one of your biggest supporters. But
now he's one of the guys driving this. Well, how
(11:45):
are you a luddite? I mean, you just don't want
because you're one of the leading guys in artificial intelligence.
Now you're saying, hey, we got to slow down, We're
going off a cliff.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I think so Elon as actually the one CEO who's
come up four regulations. For example, California had this state
legislation SB ten forty seven.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
He supported that. All the other guys.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Deep mind open aiye said no, no, no, we don't
want it. He is a complex person. He is has
for the eleven years since I first met him, been
consistently very afraid of us just building our own replacement.
(12:28):
It's completely separate from all of his other opinions. I
think he's been very steady there, and just the feeling
of this kind of crazy to do this. The other companies,
I think are just acting very predictably, like you think
their lobbyists sort of want them to. Coming back to
states rights, you know, why shouldn't Texas have the rights
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to weigh in on the most important issue of our time?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For ten years you think this is the most important?
Why is this most important issue of our time? Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Ai itself? Simply because you know.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It's going to be vastly more impactful than the Industrial Revolution,
which was itself a big deal there. We built machines
to figure out how to replace our muscles with faster
and stronger things, and in the end it worked out
pretty well for us because we could go and work
with our brains instead. And now you have these companies
who want to build machines that can outthink us in
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every possible way. And if they do that and basically
end up taking all the money and that's now going
as income to us on our paychecks and go all
to the pockets of some dudes in San Francisco, you know,
who are we kidding if we think.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
That money is ever going to come back there.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're seeing this because in the Microsoft layoff, right of
the three percent they're saying thirty percent of that is
directly related to high value added former coding jobs directly
relate to artificial intelligence. Are you starting to see this?
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Those are just the first shots of the revolution some
some groups here and there. In this case, programmer is
feeling it. But if you look at the websites of
these corporations, they say very clearly open AI, for example,
that their goal is to replace all economically valuable work
with machines. And so that's an insane power grab because
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you're not just talking about money here.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Who, if ordinary American workers are no longer needed, do
you think anyone is going to care what they want?
I think it would be very naive to think that
this isn't an enormous power grab as well.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
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over at the White House. Three o'clock, Speaker Johnson is
going to be with Andy Harris and the at least
select members of the House Freedom Caucus meeting with the
(15:17):
President of these United States. So I think we're gonna
have some deal making. May see some sausage made publicly anyway,
three o'clock. We're gonna monitor that and it'll probably be
in the middle of the Steve Grubershaw, I'm sure if
President Trump I have oppress avel. Anyway, this is gonna
be a wild afternoon, folks, As President Trump is now
inserting himself again to say, hey, look Johnson, if we
(15:38):
can't get it done, bring the boys over here and
let's have a chat. It's gonna be pretty wild. So Max,
you could do anything with your life, right. You're a
multi telled guy, smart guy. You're essentially saying that if
we don't get in back of what's really going on
in artificial intelligence, and right now there's so much money
(15:58):
being made, everybody's canind of take going to hands off approach, right,
that this could be. It could have great benefits, tremendous benefits,
but the downside of this could also be kind of
civilization ending. Right, is that the scale that we're talking about. Yeah,
it's to make your case. It sounds like typrobole, but
(16:19):
it's not. The largest American AI companies are all saying
that their goal is to build machines that can do
all the jobs basically all Americans better than we can
in two to five years. And they tell investors this.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They tell investors this so they have a producer.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, they tell investors, this is why you're putting
the money in, because we're looking to basically take out
the workforce and replace it with combination of agi irigenitive robotics.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Right yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
And they try to calm ordinary people by bs claims
that oh, this is not going to replace you, it's
just going to if you pay twenty dollars a month,
it's going to make you better at your job. There's
no way that numbers add up that way. The way
they're going to actually make their investment back is to
replace the entire person and charge ten thousand bucks from
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their employer to replace the whole human.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And this is but yeah, they were a huge advocate
of this. One time, you were on the leaders in
artificial intelligence. What was your cathartic moment when did all
of a sudden you flip and go, hey, I think
that this thing may have a dark side. I didn't
really understand it first.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, we have to remember technology itself is not evil.
It's also not morally good. You know, a knife, is
it evil?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
No.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
You can make a great barbecue with it, but you
can also stab someone. AI is like that. It's just
the most powerful tech that we will ever have built.
So it's just incredibly important to show some moral leadership.
We've done it with knives. Knives are mostly used for
good things in DC, but sometimes for bad things, and
that's why we have laws about this for AI. Similarly,
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if we actually treat the I companies like everyone else
and have some safety standards for them, cure cancer with AI,
we can make America a very strong and prosperous Help
me out here, let's go that's all directly, we're going.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Let's go back to.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The industrial revolution that you know, mankind is kind of
flat to hit the industrial revolution in the nineteenth century
and then productivity, so all the Agricultural Revolution. Man Man's
life really didn't change. She hit the Industrial Revolution. By
the Industrial Revolution, you saw a little bit in the
Civil War, a little bit some of these wars, but
then from nineteen fourteen to nineteen eighty nine, we killed
(18:27):
I don't know, a quarter of a billion people in
the in like the dark it's the new Dark Ages
because of technology is in. Technology when it first comes
on is always used in just mankind's nature, it always
goes to some sort of weaponization, to use of power.
Is that the history of technology show me that or not?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
You're saying that curiosity killed the cat. Basically, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
More than curiosity that people realize right away this got
all kind of great. It's like in the Industrial Revolution.
This is why the Civil War was so bloody. The
technology was so far advanced, and hey, they've only been
around a couple of years, right, Yeah. If you look
at the twentieth century, it led to all these weapons
systems from World War One all the way through that
allowed mass annihilation of people, ending with nuclear weapons, biological weapons,
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all of this. Now we're sitting on a new generation
of technology that's orders a magnitude more powerful. Why is
it not going to go immediately into some sort of
war making that we can't control.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, let me add some optimism here.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You know, there is a reason why we still have
not had nuclear winter, which might kill ninety nine percent
of all Americans.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It's because.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
People started to realize that this is not something anyone wants,
and we steered in the direction where we instead use
it for green energy and nuclear power plants.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And we have reasons to be optimistic for the same
reason about AI.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
If the decisions are actually made by American voters democratically,
we will use all this wonderful AI to build tools
that can help us your disease as well.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let's go back to the twentieth century. The reason we
were able to do that is America. The Germans didn't
get the bomb. The Russians got the bomb later. We
always had a more We were first, and we had
the most powerful arsenal, and so it was kind of
a reign of terror. Right, you can't, you can't. We
just talked this morning and started the show with the
golden the Golden Dome to really build a ballistic missile
(20:23):
anti ballistic missile capability here to keep because now you
got Pakistan, you get all these nations that got it
in hypersonic. Here are we We're not guaranteed that we're.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Going to be the leader in a but here's the optimism.
You know, the reason things we didn't end up in
the nuclear war was because we didn't let the decision.
We kept the decisions for about nuclear strikes. We the
US government. We didn't let the uranium industry decide what
was going to happen. Similarly, it's insane if we'd let
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the people who are just trying to make a buck
off of AI and make all the decisions about.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
How it's going to be you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But here's one of the problems. We just had Ruty
on about a massive scandal where you had the deep
state in this country with Biden. We have no worth
the idea. You got to adjudicate this. We just had
followed with Norbin Laden in Geneva saying, hey, but these
guys were to sign us up for the who to
make the case that the US government per se, we're
comfortable when Trump's and Magga's running it, We're good. We're
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not so good. We're not so good. If you just
got John Brennan and the rest of these guy.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You're making my case for me.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
These tech companies are exactly the people who who silenced
the Hunter Biden laptop story and so much else and
came out and you can look up their tweets how
they celebrate the feat of Trump and now they're they're
pretending that they've always been Trump's best friends.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Do you really trust these people to make these big
decisions about the future. So this preemption legislation is simply
an attempt for them to be able to continue making
all the decisions themselves and not let states anything about it.
And they're trying at the federal level also just talk
and talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Your future life. You put this together a group, what
is its purpose, and let's talk about what you're talking about.
At least some sort of legislation or something that allows
us to get our hands around this.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
This first thing we need is to have not just
these tech CEOs from San Francisco in the room, but
also people who actually are guided by moral principles.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
That's why I'm so.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Proud of of Reverend Reverend Johnny Moore's announcement this afternoon.
You know, there's a they want to have a say
in this to make sure that this technology actually benefits
Americans and not just San Francisco CEOs. The second thing is,
the whole problem can be fixed if we just start
stop coddling these these San Francisco CEOs and treat them
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like all other companies.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know it.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Why should there be more safety standards on sandwiches than
on AI companies? You said it's five times more regulation
on nails on nail salon's. Actually it's infinitely many times more.
Because there's zilch. If some company in San Francisco wants
to release technology tomorrow that they can't even control, there's
no law against it at all.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Who's coming to your cause? Who's coming to the future life?
Because all as soon as chant GPT, which was the
big thing they had to get around, was announced in DeVos,
all the venture capital, all the stock, all public equity,
all they want to talk about, what's your AI component?
Tesla you know, spun off and say they were going
to become an AI company. Now he's a huge in AI.
It's all AI and money is chasing it non stop. Yeah,
(23:38):
So how do you who's coming to your cause? To
the to the Amconia Luddite? Because I believe in your cause.
But who's coming to your side?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
First of all, there's this very broad support for it
from really all walks of life. You know, Polls show
that most Americans just hate the idea of building some
sort of new digital master race, regardless of whether they're
MAGA or not. It's just a disgusting, appalling idea. So
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most people support this, not the tech lobbyists of course.
The second business people generally, what do they actually want?
They want tools AI tools. They would love tools for
better medicines, making American more efficient. People in the military
want better AI weapons. Those are all supposed to be
tools that work for us, that we control. We don't
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want the drone swarm that's uncontrollable. We don't want the
self driving car that persuades you to vote for your
least favorite politician. You want tools, right, So I'm all
for AI tools. What I'm against is this AGI thing
that you're supposed to build some sort of digital god
that can do with some sort of just swap in
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replacements for humans.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
We don't need that, and we don't want that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
What and today you go to why are you going
to cast University? I mean, Pope Leo the fourteenth said
he took the name Leo the fourteenth because Leo the
thirteenth was the social justice for workers during the Industrial Revolution.
And his big concern is artificial intelligence, which the Church
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has not been or Christianity overall has not really been
at the forefront of this argument. He's saying he's going
to put it as the center of his papacy. Is
this why you're going over to Catholic University today?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yeah, I'm going to Catholic University because I'm really delighted
to see some moral leadership from people who are driven
by something else than just getting a bit more profit
on their San Francisco company. I think we have to
ask ourselves not just what we can do, but what
we ought to do.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And that's what you're And your panel is going to
be at one point thirty today and we're going to
stream it. Can you hang around? I want to keep
you for a part of the next break? Okay, a
lot of breaking news. Three o'clock today, Andy Harris, the
House of Freedom of Caucus with the Speaker of the
House is going to go over I don't know, probably
the Roosevelt Room, maybe the Cabinet Room to meet with
(26:04):
President Trump. He's going to walk through why they should
close this deal today, have a vote and get on
with it. Andy Harris's a is going to take another
ten days. So you got the bid and you got
to ask. I think President Trump's going to convince some
people over there. You don't get called over to the
White House. They couldn't call over to the woodshed. Okay.
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Speaker 1 (27:05):
So Max in the in the big Beautiful Bill that
they're going to go talk to the President about One
of the things that slid in there is this, and
I just want to make sure that we've got it
up because I know in the Senate, Josh Halling and
others going to say this is not going to survive.
Just talk to us about what they the tech bros
have slid in there, about the state's ability to control
for their citizens artificial intelligence.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
The effect bros have slid in this trojan horse, which
basically is a massive power grab to San Francisco, saying,
for example, that if Texas passes the law in two
years restricting something crazy that an I company wanted to do,
kind of the people in the tech bros in San
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Francisco will be like, ah, we can do whatever we
want because they override the federal law.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Would override the state.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Bands the states from passing any laws for ten years,
any laws restricting artificial into diligence. Yeah, it's complete insanity,
and I'm actually very proud of Josh Hawley for calling
it out as the giant corporate boondoggle that it is.
But it's important to remember even if it doesn't make
it this time and this build, it's going to be
(28:14):
like many headed hydra that's going to come back. They're
going to try to bring it back in other ways
again and again, and we just have to.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
In order of importance of all the issues this nation
faces right now, which are manifold a technology that has
unlimited opportunity. You're saying right now has got so much
potential downside that we've only got a chance now. Now.
You're not going to have it a year from now,
but you've got to now come together and start to
(28:43):
reason together about how this is actually going to be used.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, President Trump is the AI president because it's going
to be most likely during his term that it gets
decided whether we just build a new what about the
deargment thing, or whether we're going to make this into
something really great that helps us.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
We're going to have a special at six o'clock. We're
talking about the Chinese and a human organ harvesting, the
secret deal with the Catholic Church, all the things of
the Chinese Commist Party where there's such a criminal element
to do to profit and you know, monetize human organs
and human organ harvesting. The argument from the tech bros
(29:21):
Is that, hey, they've had a Sputnik moment with Deep
seek Uh. If you don't unchain us. They're going to
control the world and the the United States is going
to be basically submissive to the Chinese Commists Party.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Your answer, sir, there are of course very real gypolitical issues,
but the tech bros are just using that as an
excuse enrich themselves and avoid regulation. They keep saying, but China,
even if you try to ban a nonconsential sexual deep
fakes and anything, it's the truth is that the Chinese
Communist Party wants to keep control of China indisputable. So
(29:56):
for some San Francisco based tech boat to say, oh,
China is going to let the Chinese company build something uncontrollable.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
It's just a lie.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, we're going to stream your one thirty, but I
want to have you back on hopefully later in the
week by Skype. I know you got to travel to
give your assessment of how it win a Catholic universal
to day. Thank you you doing God's work and this
we're going to make it one more time. Where do
people go to find out more about the future of life?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Future life dot.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Org dot org and you've got all your information there.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
As best as we can we can.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, maybe we should have work even harder to have
more stuff there.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
But let's get down a really new site. You begin educate.
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Educa and social media. You're on social media where they go, Yeah,
has tag tag marked and to get your book Amazon Amazon. Okay, fine,
thank you so much, Thank you so much for coming
on in your escort today. He's being escorted by d
Joe Allen, So it ough'll be interesting. We look forward
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Thank you, brother, Appreciate you, thank you, seving you on
every day, twice a day. We'll see you back here tonight.
Jane Zirk called Tina Peters. You wrote a brand peace,
tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
So, Tina Peters a sixty nine year old gold Star
mother who is currently incarcerated at the La Vista Correctional
Facility in Colorado. This facility is actually a rehabilitation facility.
It has actually really incredible opportunities for inmates. It has
a cosmetology program, and has an economic program. It has
a honor house unit that essentially transitions prisoners back into society.
(38:56):
And these are all great things, especially when they're implemented correctly.
But what I examined in this piece is what good
is rehabilitation when incarceration in the first place was unjust,
And that, of course is the case of Tina Peters,
who is being held there as a political prisoner. Now
of course, she started at the Mesa County Jail, where
she noted that she was in fear for her life.
(39:18):
She was facing intimidation and threats from staff and other inmates.
She was threatened with solitary confinement. She has a history
of lung cancer and fibermyalgia, and this sixty nine year
old woman was forced to sleep on the top bunk
with no ladder. That is not safe for anyone, let
alone a woman with her conditions. And she told the
(39:39):
guards and they simply really didn't care. And this facility
has a well documented history of abuse, including the twenty
nineteen lawsuit that was filed by the ACLU. It was
filed on behalf of a woman named Michelle Reynolds who
was wrongly incarcerated there for fifteen days and denied a
court appearance, denied the opportunity for a bond hearing, so
(40:00):
she was well within her reasoning to be in fear
for her life. Ultimately, she was transferred three hundred miles
away to the Larimer County Jail, which has a reputation
for overcrowding and understaffing and is facing a lawsuit of
its own regarding the suicide of forty three year old
Ryan Harmond, who took his own life after his christ
(40:21):
for help were repeatedly ignored by the staff and faculty there.
And so Colorado puts on this facade of being this
progressive reform heavy criminal justice system, but in reality it
is really the epitome of the mass incarceration epidemic in America.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Jane King here or a second, I just want to
hold through break and get a couple of questions about Tina,
which is horrible, horrible, horrible, short commercial break. John Solomon's
also going to be with us to talk about the
big beautiful build next in the world.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Let's take.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Your host, Stephen K. B.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
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Get it today, Jane Zirkle. Is Tina Peters a political
prisoner and isn't the purpose of the case to torture
her by Jared Poulis and the people in Colorado?
Speaker 8 (42:52):
Ma'am, Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud
in Colorado, and as result, Colorado State retaliated, and arguably
a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners.
They have an incarceration rate of five hundred and fifty
six people per one hundred thousand, that is higher than
(43:14):
any democratic country in the world. They have around seventy
thousand people on probation and parole, and a large amount
of their prison population is a result of those parole
and probation technical violations. They have mandatory maximum sentencing, which
leaves no room for circumstance based conditions for when judges
(43:34):
hand down these sentences. They also have habitual offender laws,
which is a three strike You're out felony type law
that even if your third felony is nonviolent, you will
receive a life sentence in prison. And increasingly women are
disproportionately affected in Colorado. They are being entrenched in this
cycle of abuse and drug abuse and they are just
(43:59):
stuck here and they are being increasingly incarcerated for nonviolent offenses.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Jane Zerker, where do people go on social media to
get you, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (44:09):
You can find me at Jane Zirkle on get her, Instagram,
Twitter and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Thank you, fantastic work on Tina Peter's great Jane, maybe
put hers out a bop. You're going to watch the
We're watching the uh the arrival of South African President
John Solomon. You said you've buried into these documents and
you've got some ideas and concepts on the big beautiful bill.
The President's going to host the Freedom Caucus. I'm sure
(44:35):
that's gonna be lovely this afternoon at three o'clock.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
With your advice, Oh man, I don't know. Listen, spend
less and generate more money, right, I think that's the key.
You gotta find revenue. I used to remember they'll beer
commercials taste it tastes great last.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Failing in Washington. The longer the bill stands in.
Speaker 9 (44:54):
Congress, the more spending goes up and the less savings
go down. They got to stop it. And you know,
one point seven trillion dollars, which is where they'll be
in this bill, is a good deal. It's a lot
of savings, but it doesn't even cover the two trillion
a year that we've added since COVID, Right, So it's
really a drop in the bucket. Here is I think
the notion that a lot of Congress is never going
to solve this. They don't have the political will, whether
(45:16):
Republicans are in power or not, they don't have the
political will to ree the sort of cuts. But Marco
Rubio can cut the State Department half in a short
period of time. I think the most important thing Donald
Trump could come out of today's meeting with is a
deal saying put this language into the bill, tell me
that all Congressional appropriations are a ceiling, not a floor.
Meaning if I can deliver the programs for you at
(45:37):
less than the money you appropriated, I can give the
money back. Now, what have you done? Congress has empowered him.
You don't have to do the stupid recision votes which
never happen. You don't have to go to.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You want to codify, hang on, you want to codify impoundments.
You're going to say, hey, it's a ceiling. That's empowerment.
And if Trump doesn't like where the program's going, he
can do that. Well, tell me how we're going to
do that. It's a brilliant idea. How are we going
to do that?
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Yeah, you got it, and you got to listen. You
have to fulfill the wish of Congress, and that's the
important thing. So it is an impoundment because that is
a different process. If Donald Trump could deliver what Congress
asked for and his administration the agency delivers it, and
you can do it for less. You just give the
money back to the treasury. That is a big thing.
You want to be careful not to step on either
branch's individual article powers. But by saying you'll fulfill Congress's wish.
(46:22):
But if you do it cheaper, we're all CEOs. We're
smart guys. The whole administration is full of ROI guys. Right,
they can do it. It shifts all of these onerous
decisions away from Congress, where there's no will to a
CEO President that could cut it. I think that's on
the table and being discussed right now.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
Maybe the Conservatives won't like it, but the truth of
the matter is the Conservats have been crying and bitching
and mining and they never cut a thing. They can't
barrel system.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
The Conservas tapped this along, as everybody did. Beryl Howe
just wrote a blistering one hundred page opinion about President
Trump trying to shut down the Institute a piece and
went right to the hard of this. She said was
unlawful twenty times. Your solution makes it lawful? Is that
where we are.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Yeah, you can have the Institute's a piece at a
fraction of the cost as long as it meets the
objectives of what the Congress said. And then and then
it goes on.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
So it does.
Speaker 9 (47:16):
Listen, Barrel Howell is going to get how many times
has Berrel Hobb been reversed. She's going to be reversed again, right,
It's not a doubt about her. She likes being reversed.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
But yeah, it does.
Speaker 9 (47:25):
It solves these problems, and it takes it puts the
chips in a place where there's political will to cut
there's just not. The political Congress is too dysfunctional, cut
to cut meaningfully.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Unbelievable. John, Where do people go to get all your content? Brother?
Speaker 9 (47:41):
Yeah, justinnews dot Com and I get the Lucky I
follow you every day at six o'clock here on Real
America's Voice, and Jay Solomon reports on all of the
social media platforms.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Thank you, brother, brief, Idea and Jay. And to be
so thank you and discussed that means to being discussed
behind the scenes. This may be a thing pop up, Okay,
Charlie Kirk. This is going to be action packed at
the White House on Capitol Hill all day into the night.
Charlie Kirk, Snack's posso after that, Steve Gruber after that,
Eric Bowling after that. Then the war room. Baby wow,
(48:15):
what a morning. Then we cover the waterfront of us tomorrow.
Alex Jones is going to join us tomorrow morning. Alex
Jones is going to join us nor Bend line back
from Geneva. We got so much going on, also trying
to get General Flynn, some discussion about Romania, going to
track down General Flynn, all of it. Okay, we're back
(48:36):
here five. It's gonna be a heck of an afternoon
stick Around a real America's Voice Charlie Kirk two hours
of populist nationalism served up hot next see back here
five
Okay, welcome back. We're gonna go Geneva. Nor been lyned
so nor I'm totally confused. Now through your hard efforts
in work, not only did we stop American involvement, I
think in this World Health Organization, the Treaty, the Pandemic Treaty.
In addition, President Trump made a priority that aren't we
pulling out of the World Health Organization? Does this still
(00:37):
have its grip on the United States of America. I
thought we were out, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Great to be with you, Steve, and to be with
the posse and reporting on the wh Show here in Geneva.
There are quite a few things happening, but definitely President
Trump's moves to exit the wh Show is really front
and center here this week. But it's a one year
long cross So on day one of President Trump's in
your administration, he signed an executive order to kickstart the
(01:06):
process of leaving of exiting the WHOW.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That's going to take a year, so.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That will only be in effect in January twenty twenty six.
That being said, the membership fees, the annual membership fees
for twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, supposedly are
still you, but President Trump's administration is refusing to pay that,
leading to the WHHOW members here this week, including Ted
(01:36):
Ross Gaberysis, the Director General, to be shedding quite a
few tiers about the slash in budgeting because that represents
about two hundred and sixty million US dollars that won't
be included in the WHO coffers this year. So you've
had quite a few discussions about that. There was as
(01:58):
well as side panel today talking about the fallout and
the slash of budgeting due to the US pulling out
of the WH show.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So hang on, hang out. So reality is set in
that we're out and our money's out, and in fact
Trump's saying twenty four and twenty five, y're in getting
it either. So Ted Rose and this bunch of Chinese companies, party,
corrupt bureaucrats and administrative state that remember, Geneva is the
engine room of the United Nations. The UN in New
York is just performative. That's where they go for the
(02:30):
TV cameras and the Security Council. But the engine room
where it all works is in Geneva. So reality set in.
They know the United States is out and now you're
having the gnashing of teeth and the ringing of hands, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Especially, another very strong signal that the Chunk administration sent
this year's Health Assembly is that no US delegates are
presidentists here.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So, just to give a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Context how it works, So the World Colorization every year
for their annual meeting, which is called the World Health Assembly,
and the WHO is comprised of one hundred and ninety
four member states, and each member states sends their delegates
each year for this week long health so called health Fest,
(03:17):
and the US did not send any delegates this year.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, so Michelle Bogwin Warren and I think you warned too.
Even though we're in the process of pulling out, we're
six months aways starting January twenty sixth, we already notified them.
Can they still pass all this madness and kind of
encircle the United States? So if you want to travel,
if you want to take a job overseas, if you
want to do anything that they've got their tentacles around
(03:44):
the throat of American citizens, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So that's a really great question because it brings me
back to what I've been covering on the WHO with
U Steve also on the show previous years. But what
we need to understand is that they've been working hard
on two instruments, two kind of conventions or treaties or laws.
The first track is the International Health Regulation amendments to
(04:08):
which the United States is a part of, and one
thing that the administration absolutely needs to do before July
nineteenth is actually to reject the amendments to the International
Health Regulations which were adopted last year at the last
World Health Assembly in twenty twenty four here in Geneva.
(04:28):
And obviously it is of my opinion that the US
should actually just annul the International Health Regulations or their
ratification of the International Health Regulations altogether.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So that's the first track.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The second track is this so called Pandemic Treaty, the
Pandemic Agreement that we've been hearing about at nauseam for
the past, you know, four years, ever since Boris Johnson
and a slew of other world leaders in March twenty
one published that letter calling for all the different governments
(05:05):
and the whhow with the leadership of the WHOW to
draft this Pandemic Agreement. So they've been working on this
for over three years now. The first Working Group that
was set up. Their first session took place early twenty
twenty two. And the reason why I wanted to show
(05:25):
this cliff of all these delegates applauding in the main
hall of the United Nations European headquarters here in Geneva,
is because it is so emblematic of the fakeness and
performative nature of all of these entities and organizations and
the people that form them.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Because they are.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Trying to pretend that this is a huge victory, they're
calling this a win for multilateralism, when in fact it
is anything but it is a complete damagetual operation and
pr medication disaster and medication campaign that they've put on
here this entire week in Geneva. Because the truth is
(06:11):
that this pandemic Agreement hasn't been actually signed. It's been
so called adopted, but the main, the main, the meat
of the bone of this agreement hasn't been agreed upon.
There hasn't been consensus.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And they actually moved that part of the agreement, which
is the TABS system, the pathogen access and benefit sharing system,
They've moved it to an annex and they're going to
They're going to continue negotiating on the PAB system at
least until the next w h A.
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And so in effect, this was pure a pure like show.
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That they put on for us, because otherwise they would
have been left with egg on their face because they've
been working this for so long. Last year already they
delayed the adoption of a sagreements saying they couldn't reach consensus.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's all there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's obvious they're going to try to brazen this out
and get some weak Republicans the cave on this and
get Trump to reverse it, or try to get Trump
to reverse although this is what we voted for, and
then try to turn it around in if they steal
it in twenty eight how many more days does this last, ma'am?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
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twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
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Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, we want to get you back on. We'll go
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With regards to the wh I urge people to vote
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and convoluted on purpose, and it's very important to actually
read the documents, but obviously put you to sleep with
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all of their wording and nomenclature, but what comes out
is actually very deceiving.
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You wander dusk, You're fantastic? Where do they go get
the podcast?
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I have a channel on Rumble and Morban Laden, but
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find all the links, all the different press releases of
the WH Show, the official documents. We've made a really
good up of different information than you need to know.
It's basically everything you need to know about the WH
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Show and with reverts to the Pandemic Agreement in essence,
this pandemic industry that they've created out of thin air
in order to push more quote pandemic related products and
push more poison onto.
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Speaker 1 (08:54):
You're one of the key people. You're one of the
key people to get us out of this mess. And
so I know you're going to be one of the
key people at the forefront of this to shut this
whole mess down. Nor bind Line will work to try
to get you back up tomorrow when we go back
even more in depth on this. Thank you, ma'am. Great work,
Thank you very much. A warrior none talking about a
warrior about Andy Harris just announced you pull that over.
(09:17):
Andy Harris just announced that. Is this even in a
camera shot? Mister producer, Okay, Andy Harris, I'm a direct
where we do this. Andy Harris just announced, Hey, they
may progress. They're back on. Maybe last night was not
as terrible, but he's saying it's ten days before he
thinks this thing gets sorted out. So we'll give updates
to go. Max teg Mark The Future of Life, one
(09:41):
of the leading lights in artificial intelligence and particularly the
dangers of artificial intelligence and what we have to do
to keep our humanity. Brother, thank you so much for
joining us today in the studio. You're at Catholic University
on a panel this afternoon. We're gonna we're gonna live
stream this at one thirty. Is that one that's going
to take place?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yes, Yeah, I'm really excited about this actually because I've
said for a long time we really need some moral
leadership on AI. We can't let these big decisions about
humanity's future being done by some tech bros in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So I said, yes, sir. In the Financial Times they
had this article about the populace versus the brologarchs, and
I said that in Washington, DC, you need five times
more regulations to open a nail salon or a hair
braiding salon than the top four guys right now, Altman
Musk all of them, the top four have in all
(10:38):
regulation and artificial intelligence, and in fact, the big beautiful
bill I think has a part of it, and it's
going to be fought, I think extensively to ban any
state from putting in any regulation to slow down the
march towards artificial general intelligence. How does that set with you.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
It's obviously a giant corporate handout boondoggle for the for
these tech lobbyists, but it's it's also quite dangerous because
you know, when the United States was formed, a core
part of the agreement with the states was that they
were going to have the right to make their own
(11:16):
laws about things that really affected them. So to now
come and say to these same states that, hey, you
know that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Forget so you're a states right sky when it comes
to artificial By the way, Alon Musk is one of
your biggest supporters the back of the book and when
I first picked it up years ago. This is a
compelling guy of the challenges and choices in our quest
for a great future of life, intelligence and consciousness on
Earth and beyond. He's one of your biggest supporters. But
now he's one of the guys driving this. Well, how
(11:45):
are you a luddite? I mean, you just don't want
because you're one of the leading guys in artificial intelligence.
Now you're saying, hey, we got to slow down, We're
going off a cliff.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I think so Elon as actually the one CEO who's
come up four regulations. For example, California had this state
legislation SB ten forty seven.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
He supported that. All the other guys.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Deep mind open aiye said no, no, no, we don't
want it. He is a complex person. He is has
for the eleven years since I first met him, been
consistently very afraid of us just building our own replacement.
(12:28):
It's completely separate from all of his other opinions. I
think he's been very steady there, and just the feeling
of this kind of crazy to do this. The other companies,
I think are just acting very predictably, like you think
their lobbyists sort of want them to. Coming back to
states rights, you know, why shouldn't Texas have the rights
(12:50):
to weigh in on the most important issue of our time?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For ten years you think this is the most important?
Why is this most important issue of our time? Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Ai itself? Simply because you know.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It's going to be vastly more impactful than the Industrial Revolution,
which was itself a big deal there. We built machines
to figure out how to replace our muscles with faster
and stronger things, and in the end it worked out
pretty well for us because we could go and work
with our brains instead. And now you have these companies
who want to build machines that can outthink us in
(13:23):
every possible way. And if they do that and basically
end up taking all the money and that's now going
as income to us on our paychecks and go all
to the pockets of some dudes in San Francisco, you know,
who are we kidding if we think.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
That money is ever going to come back there.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You're seeing this because in the Microsoft layoff, right of
the three percent they're saying thirty percent of that is
directly related to high value added former coding jobs directly
relate to artificial intelligence. Are you starting to see this?
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Those are just the first shots of the revolution some
some groups here and there. In this case, programmer is
feeling it. But if you look at the websites of
these corporations, they say very clearly open AI, for example,
that their goal is to replace all economically valuable work
with machines. And so that's an insane power grab because
(14:14):
you're not just talking about money here.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Who, if ordinary American workers are no longer needed, do
you think anyone is going to care what they want?
I think it would be very naive to think that
this isn't an enormous power grab as well.
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over at the White House. Three o'clock, Speaker Johnson is
going to be with Andy Harris and the at least
select members of the House Freedom Caucus meeting with the
(15:17):
President of these United States. So I think we're gonna
have some deal making. May see some sausage made publicly anyway,
three o'clock. We're gonna monitor that and it'll probably be
in the middle of the Steve Grubershaw, I'm sure if
President Trump I have oppress avel. Anyway, this is gonna
be a wild afternoon, folks, As President Trump is now
inserting himself again to say, hey, look Johnson, if we
(15:38):
can't get it done, bring the boys over here and
let's have a chat. It's gonna be pretty wild. So Max,
you could do anything with your life, right. You're a
multi telled guy, smart guy. You're essentially saying that if
we don't get in back of what's really going on
in artificial intelligence, and right now there's so much money
(15:58):
being made, everybody's canind of take going to hands off approach, right,
that this could be. It could have great benefits, tremendous benefits,
but the downside of this could also be kind of
civilization ending. Right, is that the scale that we're talking about. Yeah,
it's to make your case. It sounds like typrobole, but
(16:19):
it's not. The largest American AI companies are all saying
that their goal is to build machines that can do
all the jobs basically all Americans better than we can
in two to five years. And they tell investors this.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They tell investors this so they have a producer.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, they tell investors, this is why you're putting
the money in, because we're looking to basically take out
the workforce and replace it with combination of agi irigenitive robotics.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Right yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
And they try to calm ordinary people by bs claims
that oh, this is not going to replace you, it's
just going to if you pay twenty dollars a month,
it's going to make you better at your job. There's
no way that numbers add up that way. The way
they're going to actually make their investment back is to
replace the entire person and charge ten thousand bucks from
(17:07):
their employer to replace the whole human.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And this is but yeah, they were a huge advocate
of this. One time, you were on the leaders in
artificial intelligence. What was your cathartic moment when did all
of a sudden you flip and go, hey, I think
that this thing may have a dark side. I didn't
really understand it first.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, we have to remember technology itself is not evil.
It's also not morally good. You know, a knife, is
it evil?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
No.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
You can make a great barbecue with it, but you
can also stab someone. AI is like that. It's just
the most powerful tech that we will ever have built.
So it's just incredibly important to show some moral leadership.
We've done it with knives. Knives are mostly used for
good things in DC, but sometimes for bad things, and
that's why we have laws about this for AI. Similarly,
(17:54):
if we actually treat the I companies like everyone else
and have some safety standards for them, cure cancer with AI,
we can make America a very strong and prosperous Help
me out here, let's go that's all directly, we're going.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Let's go back to.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The industrial revolution that you know, mankind is kind of
flat to hit the industrial revolution in the nineteenth century
and then productivity, so all the Agricultural Revolution. Man Man's
life really didn't change. She hit the Industrial Revolution. By
the Industrial Revolution, you saw a little bit in the
Civil War, a little bit some of these wars, but
then from nineteen fourteen to nineteen eighty nine, we killed
(18:27):
I don't know, a quarter of a billion people in
the in like the dark it's the new Dark Ages
because of technology is in. Technology when it first comes
on is always used in just mankind's nature, it always
goes to some sort of weaponization, to use of power.
Is that the history of technology show me that or not?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
You're saying that curiosity killed the cat. Basically, I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
More than curiosity that people realize right away this got
all kind of great. It's like in the Industrial Revolution.
This is why the Civil War was so bloody. The
technology was so far advanced, and hey, they've only been
around a couple of years, right, Yeah. If you look
at the twentieth century, it led to all these weapons
systems from World War One all the way through that
allowed mass annihilation of people, ending with nuclear weapons, biological weapons,
(19:15):
all of this. Now we're sitting on a new generation
of technology that's orders a magnitude more powerful. Why is
it not going to go immediately into some sort of
war making that we can't control.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, let me add some optimism here.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You know, there is a reason why we still have
not had nuclear winter, which might kill ninety nine percent
of all Americans.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It's because.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
People started to realize that this is not something anyone wants,
and we steered in the direction where we instead use
it for green energy and nuclear power plants.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And we have reasons to be optimistic for the same
reason about AI.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
If the decisions are actually made by American voters democratically,
we will use all this wonderful AI to build tools
that can help us your disease as well.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Let's go back to the twentieth century. The reason we
were able to do that is America. The Germans didn't
get the bomb. The Russians got the bomb later. We
always had a more We were first, and we had
the most powerful arsenal, and so it was kind of
a reign of terror. Right, you can't, you can't. We
just talked this morning and started the show with the
golden the Golden Dome to really build a ballistic missile
(20:23):
anti ballistic missile capability here to keep because now you
got Pakistan, you get all these nations that got it
in hypersonic. Here are we We're not guaranteed that we're.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Going to be the leader in a but here's the optimism.
You know, the reason things we didn't end up in
the nuclear war was because we didn't let the decision.
We kept the decisions for about nuclear strikes. We the
US government. We didn't let the uranium industry decide what
was going to happen. Similarly, it's insane if we'd let
(20:54):
the people who are just trying to make a buck
off of AI and make all the decisions about.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
How it's going to be you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
But here's one of the problems. We just had Ruty
on about a massive scandal where you had the deep
state in this country with Biden. We have no worth
the idea. You got to adjudicate this. We just had
followed with Norbin Laden in Geneva saying, hey, but these
guys were to sign us up for the who to
make the case that the US government per se, we're
comfortable when Trump's and Magga's running it, We're good. We're
(21:24):
not so good. We're not so good. If you just
got John Brennan and the rest of these guy.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
You're making my case for me.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
These tech companies are exactly the people who who silenced
the Hunter Biden laptop story and so much else and
came out and you can look up their tweets how
they celebrate the feat of Trump and now they're they're
pretending that they've always been Trump's best friends.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Do you really trust these people to make these big
decisions about the future. So this preemption legislation is simply
an attempt for them to be able to continue making
all the decisions themselves and not let states anything about it.
And they're trying at the federal level also just talk
and talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Your future life. You put this together a group, what
is its purpose, and let's talk about what you're talking about.
At least some sort of legislation or something that allows
us to get our hands around this.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
This first thing we need is to have not just
these tech CEOs from San Francisco in the room, but
also people who actually are guided by moral principles.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
That's why I'm so.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Proud of of Reverend Reverend Johnny Moore's announcement this afternoon.
You know, there's a they want to have a say
in this to make sure that this technology actually benefits
Americans and not just San Francisco CEOs. The second thing is,
the whole problem can be fixed if we just start
stop coddling these these San Francisco CEOs and treat them
(22:52):
like all other companies.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know it.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Why should there be more safety standards on sandwiches than
on AI companies? You said it's five times more regulation
on nails on nail salon's. Actually it's infinitely many times more.
Because there's zilch. If some company in San Francisco wants
to release technology tomorrow that they can't even control, there's
no law against it at all.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Who's coming to your cause? Who's coming to the future life?
Because all as soon as chant GPT, which was the
big thing they had to get around, was announced in DeVos,
all the venture capital, all the stock, all public equity,
all they want to talk about, what's your AI component?
Tesla you know, spun off and say they were going
to become an AI company. Now he's a huge in AI.
It's all AI and money is chasing it non stop. Yeah,
(23:38):
So how do you who's coming to your cause? To
the to the Amconia Luddite? Because I believe in your cause.
But who's coming to your side?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
First of all, there's this very broad support for it
from really all walks of life. You know, Polls show
that most Americans just hate the idea of building some
sort of new digital master race, regardless of whether they're
MAGA or not. It's just a disgusting, appalling idea. So
(24:06):
most people support this, not the tech lobbyists of course.
The second business people generally, what do they actually want?
They want tools AI tools. They would love tools for
better medicines, making American more efficient. People in the military
want better AI weapons. Those are all supposed to be
tools that work for us, that we control. We don't
(24:29):
want the drone swarm that's uncontrollable. We don't want the
self driving car that persuades you to vote for your
least favorite politician. You want tools, right, So I'm all
for AI tools. What I'm against is this AGI thing
that you're supposed to build some sort of digital god
that can do with some sort of just swap in
(24:50):
replacements for humans.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
We don't need that, and we don't want that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
What and today you go to why are you going
to cast University? I mean, Pope Leo the fourteenth said
he took the name Leo the fourteenth because Leo the
thirteenth was the social justice for workers during the Industrial Revolution.
And his big concern is artificial intelligence, which the Church
(25:16):
has not been or Christianity overall has not really been
at the forefront of this argument. He's saying he's going
to put it as the center of his papacy. Is
this why you're going over to Catholic University today?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Yeah, I'm going to Catholic University because I'm really delighted
to see some moral leadership from people who are driven
by something else than just getting a bit more profit
on their San Francisco company. I think we have to
ask ourselves not just what we can do, but what
we ought to do.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And that's what you're And your panel is going to
be at one point thirty today and we're going to
stream it. Can you hang around? I want to keep
you for a part of the next break? Okay, a
lot of breaking news. Three o'clock today, Andy Harris, the
House of Freedom of Caucus with the Speaker of the
House is going to go over I don't know, probably
the Roosevelt Room, maybe the Cabinet Room to meet with
(26:04):
President Trump. He's going to walk through why they should
close this deal today, have a vote and get on
with it. Andy Harris's a is going to take another
ten days. So you got the bid and you got
to ask. I think President Trump's going to convince some
people over there. You don't get called over to the
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Speaker 1 (27:05):
So Max in the in the big Beautiful Bill that
they're going to go talk to the President about One
of the things that slid in there is this, and
I just want to make sure that we've got it
up because I know in the Senate, Josh Halling and
others going to say this is not going to survive.
Just talk to us about what they the tech bros
have slid in there, about the state's ability to control
for their citizens artificial intelligence.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
The effect bros have slid in this trojan horse, which
basically is a massive power grab to San Francisco, saying,
for example, that if Texas passes the law in two
years restricting something crazy that an I company wanted to do,
kind of the people in the tech bros in San
(27:47):
Francisco will be like, ah, we can do whatever we
want because they override the federal law.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Would override the state.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Bands the states from passing any laws for ten years,
any laws restricting artificial into diligence. Yeah, it's complete insanity,
and I'm actually very proud of Josh Hawley for calling
it out as the giant corporate boondoggle that it is.
But it's important to remember even if it doesn't make
it this time and this build, it's going to be
(28:14):
like many headed hydra that's going to come back. They're
going to try to bring it back in other ways
again and again, and we just have to.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
In order of importance of all the issues this nation
faces right now, which are manifold a technology that has
unlimited opportunity. You're saying right now has got so much
potential downside that we've only got a chance now. Now.
You're not going to have it a year from now,
but you've got to now come together and start to
(28:43):
reason together about how this is actually going to be used.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, President Trump is the AI president because it's going
to be most likely during his term that it gets
decided whether we just build a new what about the
deargment thing, or whether we're going to make this into
something really great that helps us.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
We're going to have a special at six o'clock. We're
talking about the Chinese and a human organ harvesting, the
secret deal with the Catholic Church, all the things of
the Chinese Commist Party where there's such a criminal element
to do to profit and you know, monetize human organs
and human organ harvesting. The argument from the tech bros
(29:21):
Is that, hey, they've had a Sputnik moment with Deep
seek Uh. If you don't unchain us. They're going to
control the world and the the United States is going
to be basically submissive to the Chinese Commists Party.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Your answer, sir, there are of course very real gypolitical issues,
but the tech bros are just using that as an
excuse enrich themselves and avoid regulation. They keep saying, but China,
even if you try to ban a nonconsential sexual deep
fakes and anything, it's the truth is that the Chinese
Communist Party wants to keep control of China indisputable. So
(29:56):
for some San Francisco based tech boat to say, oh,
China is going to let the Chinese company build something uncontrollable.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
It's just a lie.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, we're going to stream your one thirty, but I
want to have you back on hopefully later in the
week by Skype. I know you got to travel to
give your assessment of how it win a Catholic universal
to day. Thank you you doing God's work and this
we're going to make it one more time. Where do
people go to find out more about the future of life?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Future life dot.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Org dot org and you've got all your information there.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
As best as we can we can.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, maybe we should have work even harder to have
more stuff there.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
But let's get down a really new site. You begin educate.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Educa and social media. You're on social media where they go, Yeah,
has tag tag marked and to get your book Amazon Amazon. Okay, fine,
thank you so much, Thank you so much for coming
on in your escort today. He's being escorted by d
Joe Allen, So it ough'll be interesting. We look forward
seeing it. One thirty. Thank you, sir, Mike Lindell. You're
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(33:10):
of maniacs.
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Everybody.
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Thank you, brother, Appreciate you, thank you, seving you on
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Jane Zirk called Tina Peters. You wrote a brand peace,
tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
So, Tina Peters a sixty nine year old gold Star
mother who is currently incarcerated at the La Vista Correctional
Facility in Colorado. This facility is actually a rehabilitation facility.
It has actually really incredible opportunities for inmates. It has
a cosmetology program, and has an economic program. It has
a honor house unit that essentially transitions prisoners back into society.
(38:56):
And these are all great things, especially when they're implemented correctly.
But what I examined in this piece is what good
is rehabilitation when incarceration in the first place was unjust,
And that, of course is the case of Tina Peters,
who is being held there as a political prisoner. Now
of course, she started at the Mesa County Jail, where
she noted that she was in fear for her life.
(39:18):
She was facing intimidation and threats from staff and other inmates.
She was threatened with solitary confinement. She has a history
of lung cancer and fibermyalgia, and this sixty nine year
old woman was forced to sleep on the top bunk
with no ladder. That is not safe for anyone, let
alone a woman with her conditions. And she told the
(39:39):
guards and they simply really didn't care. And this facility
has a well documented history of abuse, including the twenty
nineteen lawsuit that was filed by the ACLU. It was
filed on behalf of a woman named Michelle Reynolds who
was wrongly incarcerated there for fifteen days and denied a
court appearance, denied the opportunity for a bond hearing, so
(40:00):
she was well within her reasoning to be in fear
for her life. Ultimately, she was transferred three hundred miles
away to the Larimer County Jail, which has a reputation
for overcrowding and understaffing and is facing a lawsuit of
its own regarding the suicide of forty three year old
Ryan Harmond, who took his own life after his christ
(40:21):
for help were repeatedly ignored by the staff and faculty there.
And so Colorado puts on this facade of being this
progressive reform heavy criminal justice system, but in reality it
is really the epitome of the mass incarceration epidemic in America.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Jane King here or a second, I just want to
hold through break and get a couple of questions about Tina,
which is horrible, horrible, horrible, short commercial break. John Solomon's
also going to be with us to talk about the
big beautiful build next in the world.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Let's take.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Your host, Stephen K. B.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
So, the President of South Africa is coming. The President's
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Get it today, Jane Zirkle. Is Tina Peters a political
prisoner and isn't the purpose of the case to torture
her by Jared Poulis and the people in Colorado?
Speaker 8 (42:52):
Ma'am, Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud
in Colorado, and as result, Colorado State retaliated, and arguably
a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners.
They have an incarceration rate of five hundred and fifty
six people per one hundred thousand, that is higher than
(43:14):
any democratic country in the world. They have around seventy
thousand people on probation and parole, and a large amount
of their prison population is a result of those parole
and probation technical violations. They have mandatory maximum sentencing, which
leaves no room for circumstance based conditions for when judges
(43:34):
hand down these sentences. They also have habitual offender laws,
which is a three strike You're out felony type law
that even if your third felony is nonviolent, you will
receive a life sentence in prison. And increasingly women are
disproportionately affected in Colorado. They are being entrenched in this
cycle of abuse and drug abuse and they are just
(43:59):
stuck here and they are being increasingly incarcerated for nonviolent offenses.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Jane Zerker, where do people go on social media to
get you, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (44:09):
You can find me at Jane Zirkle on get her, Instagram,
Twitter and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Thank you, fantastic work on Tina Peter's great Jane, maybe
put hers out a bop. You're going to watch the
We're watching the uh the arrival of South African President
John Solomon. You said you've buried into these documents and
you've got some ideas and concepts on the big beautiful bill.
The President's going to host the Freedom Caucus. I'm sure
(44:35):
that's gonna be lovely this afternoon at three o'clock.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
With your advice, Oh man, I don't know. Listen, spend
less and generate more money, right, I think that's the key.
You gotta find revenue. I used to remember they'll beer
commercials taste it tastes great last.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Failing in Washington. The longer the bill stands in.
Speaker 9 (44:54):
Congress, the more spending goes up and the less savings
go down. They got to stop it. And you know,
one point seven trillion dollars, which is where they'll be
in this bill, is a good deal. It's a lot
of savings, but it doesn't even cover the two trillion
a year that we've added since COVID, Right, So it's
really a drop in the bucket. Here is I think
the notion that a lot of Congress is never going
to solve this. They don't have the political will, whether
(45:16):
Republicans are in power or not, they don't have the
political will to ree the sort of cuts. But Marco
Rubio can cut the State Department half in a short
period of time. I think the most important thing Donald
Trump could come out of today's meeting with is a
deal saying put this language into the bill, tell me
that all Congressional appropriations are a ceiling, not a floor.
Meaning if I can deliver the programs for you at
(45:37):
less than the money you appropriated, I can give the
money back. Now, what have you done? Congress has empowered him.
You don't have to do the stupid recision votes which
never happen. You don't have to go to.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You want to codify, hang on, you want to codify impoundments.
You're going to say, hey, it's a ceiling. That's empowerment.
And if Trump doesn't like where the program's going, he
can do that. Well, tell me how we're going to
do that. It's a brilliant idea. How are we going
to do that?
Speaker 9 (46:00):
Yeah, you got it, and you got to listen. You
have to fulfill the wish of Congress, and that's the
important thing. So it is an impoundment because that is
a different process. If Donald Trump could deliver what Congress
asked for and his administration the agency delivers it, and
you can do it for less. You just give the
money back to the treasury. That is a big thing.
You want to be careful not to step on either
branch's individual article powers. But by saying you'll fulfill Congress's wish.
(46:22):
But if you do it cheaper, we're all CEOs. We're
smart guys. The whole administration is full of ROI guys. Right,
they can do it. It shifts all of these onerous
decisions away from Congress, where there's no will to a
CEO President that could cut it. I think that's on
the table and being discussed right now.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
Maybe the Conservatives won't like it, but the truth of
the matter is the Conservats have been crying and bitching
and mining and they never cut a thing. They can't
barrel system.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
The Conservas tapped this along, as everybody did. Beryl Howe
just wrote a blistering one hundred page opinion about President
Trump trying to shut down the Institute a piece and
went right to the hard of this. She said was
unlawful twenty times. Your solution makes it lawful? Is that
where we are.
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Yeah, you can have the Institute's a piece at a
fraction of the cost as long as it meets the
objectives of what the Congress said. And then and then
it goes on.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
So it does.
Speaker 9 (47:16):
Listen, Barrel Howell is going to get how many times
has Berrel Hobb been reversed. She's going to be reversed again, right,
It's not a doubt about her. She likes being reversed.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
But yeah, it does.
Speaker 9 (47:25):
It solves these problems, and it takes it puts the
chips in a place where there's political will to cut
there's just not. The political Congress is too dysfunctional, cut
to cut meaningfully.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Unbelievable. John, Where do people go to get all your content? Brother?
Speaker 9 (47:41):
Yeah, justinnews dot Com and I get the Lucky I
follow you every day at six o'clock here on Real
America's Voice, and Jay Solomon reports on all of the
social media platforms.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Thank you, brother, brief, Idea and Jay. And to be
so thank you and discussed that means to being discussed
behind the scenes. This may be a thing pop up, Okay,
Charlie Kirk. This is going to be action packed at
the White House on Capitol Hill all day into the night.
Charlie Kirk, Snack's posso after that, Steve Gruber after that,
Eric Bowling after that. Then the war room. Baby wow,
(48:15):
what a morning. Then we cover the waterfront of us tomorrow.
Alex Jones is going to join us tomorrow morning. Alex
Jones is going to join us nor Bend line back
from Geneva. We got so much going on, also trying
to get General Flynn, some discussion about Romania, going to
track down General Flynn, all of it. Okay, we're back
(48:36):
here five. It's gonna be a heck of an afternoon
stick Around a real America's Voice Charlie Kirk two hours
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